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No. 142752
there's a fuckton of guides on how to become a real man
gymbros, nofap, jordan peterson, looksmaxing, spirituality
but "g**gle" literally gives absolutely nothing on how to be a good woman, future mother, love urself, respect urself, not be an ethot
everything is riddled with shitty cosmopolitan tier astrology, feelgood selfish crap, makeup and yoga crap
what's something equal to jordan peterson but for a girl?
i can't find anything and it's quite scary, pls help
if it wouldn't be all religious would be good
halp
No. 142756
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>>142754
thank you, will check it out
i'm not as concerned about how men think though. neither am i interesting in dating at the moment
i'm looking for something to reinforce feminine..ugh for lack of better words spirituality, something JP talks about, the archetype of Mary or Shakti, you get what I'm saying
food for soul
it really scares me that there's nothing easily accessible I could find. I hate how postmodernism turned the "trad" thing into a running joke and a meme, like it does with everything
I want something to keep me strong. A belief system of a sort. Faith, pursuit of real love. Giving
I understand it's all gravitating towards religion
No. 142758
>>142756I think I misunderstood what you are looking for cause of the examples for men you listed. In my mind all that stuff is written for men who are unhappy about their status with women. Lol
Anyway, have you tried literature? There's so much beyond YA drivel out there. Female writers I like are the Brontes and Colette. I'm sure other book lovers can recommend more. There are some female philosophers out there as well but I don't read much philosophy myself, so I can't recommend any.
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>>142758>men who are unhappy about their status with women. Loltotal lack of spiritual guidance in modern world is a two edged sword that pierces both us and them
i could probably draw an example of your sentence: the i-words. same as poor girls gobbling on xanny while uploading another onlyfans update
I'm sorry, what's YA? English isn't my native language
as of literature, I recall reading Maupassant (Boule de suif, Mademoiselle Fifi). Dostoyevsky also has strong female characters (White Nights)
I'll be really thankful if you post what you've read!
>>142759If only that was as easy as you say
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>>142761thanks
is that something pride and prejudice-ish?
>I don't really get what you saying anonAnon I just want to be strong and respect+love myself in these troubling times. Start a good family since i never had it
see all other women be strong
>>142762thanks
No. 142764
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>>142752 I gotchu! It seems like you’re looking for general life advice but from a feminine perspective. Check out Tabitha Brown (Tiktok, Youtube or Instagram.) She shares chill advice about loving yourself, being comfortable in your skin, enduring hardships, etc. She has a very warm energy, feels like getting wisdom from mom. And she has some good recipes too!
There are some female artists out there that I feel have good vibes like FKA Twigs, Princess Nokia, Sampa the Great, Rina Sawayama, The Huntress and the Holder of Hands, Deap Valley, Eivør. Even if all the music isn’t to your taste, their lyrics or the thought behind a lot of their music is empowering, healing and often speaks to being a woman. They are unashamed of being themselves and interviews with them are usually interesting.
I don’t know if you’ll respond the same way, but for me reading about empowered women and how they live(d) their lives is also helpful. Check out Rejected Princesses for a lot of quick stories about amazing women throughout history. If any connect with you, you can always look for more material.
And it may not woman-centric, but CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) is so useful in undoing really shitty self talk and concepts that you may have built around minimizing yourself as a person. My self confidence was literally at 0 despite being externally “successful” and it saved my ass from years of
toxic thinking and self harm. You don’t need a therapist, they can help but in the end changing your thoughts is in your hands. I recommend the book Self-Esteem: A Proven Program of Cognitive Techniques for Assessing, Improving, and Maintaining Your Self-Esteem by McKay. Sounds dry as hell but I promise it’s approachable and engaging.
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>>142764Wow, thank you for this!! I apologize if I'm not conveying my thoughts correctly
I just googled her up and even just her photo, her face has such great vibes. I'll definitely check out what you've listed! Thank you!
No. 142803
>>142772I think morality is instilled through society, but I get anon’s fear about no women-centered self help. Society now is pornsick and favors non-binary folx over women, mothers, sisters, and wives, so where will we be without a counter-movement? I know there’s a r/nofap for women, although I haven’t read much of it. Female empowerment for me has come from watching second wave feminists speak on all the ways to embrace femininity - grace, nurture, intelligence, level-headedness, strength, ferocity, determination. It’s validating to see women live out these values while not compromising their morals or letting men push their boundaries. I love me some babyradfemtv on YouTube.
No. 142844
>>142837fucking based thank you
>>142838Being a successful normie is these people's entire goal
No. 142860
>>142856Cause they claim tangible benefit from no fap/no porn beyond moral posturing despite little evidence, though in looking it up I found
https://www.healthline.com/health/nofap-benefits#claims"While some people report experiencing a range of benefits from adopting the NoFap lifestyle, these claims aren’t rooted in much scientific evidence. "
No. 142872
>>142764> I recommend the book Self-Esteem: A Proven Program of Cognitive Techniques for Assessing, Improving, and Maintaining Your Self-Esteem by McKay. Sounds dry as hell but I promise it’s approachable and engaging.Not OP but thank you so much for this recommendation. I bought an ebook and it's so on point naming my issues, i have a lot of hope going more into it.
In general I kinda see what OPs talking about, a lot of self improvement stuff online is lowkey directed at men, like for example The Art of Charm. You can benefit from reading / listening to it as a woman too because a lot of things they talk about is universal but sometimes you just miss a female perspective, a female voice. Especially since there are some issues related to self esteem women experience differently because of different types of society outlook on these.
No. 142993
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>>142752First thing that came to mind - "Women Who Run with the Wolves: Myths and Stories of the Wild Woman Archetype" by Clarissa Pinkola Estés. It's a really nice read (it was for me at least). It's not a guide though, it's about feminine psyche, and what is really important, NOT from a crappy male view, not all this blabbering about 'demonic nature' of female sexuality and analysis through a lense of traditional gender roles. It's much more versatile.
Someone recommended music here. I can recommend Tori Amos, PJ Harvey. They're pretty popular though, so you probably know about them already. I've instantly thought about them while reading what this anon
>>142764 said
>Even if all the music isn’t to your taste, their lyrics or the thought behind a lot of their music is empowering, healing and often speaks to being a woman. They are unashamed of being themselvesI also wanted to recommend reading something on Stoicism, even though it's universal and not solely for women, but I see that the same anon mentioned CBT and it's pretty much based on stoic principles as far as I know, so, heh…
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>>142993samefag
Also I'm not sure if that's the kind of thing you'd be interested in but maybe try this book as well - "The Beauty Myth" by Naomi Wolf.
>Published in 2002, this nonfiction book revolutionized how we think about beauty and its effect on women’s identity. Her point is that despite the women’s movement and the power women have gained in terms of professional success and legal recognition, societal ideas about beauty keep women trapped in a cycle of reaching for ideals that are, in fact, unattainable.>>142763>ukrainian girl picWanted to ask, are you Ukrainian, anon? If so, I'm glad to meet another ukr anon, lol
No. 143059
>>142998Gardening has been so good for my self esteem. IIRC there's research backing up its effects of mental health. I think physical and creative hobbies are both really good for self-improvement as well.
>>142994I loved this book, it totally revolutionized my worldview.
No. 143460
>>142872Great, makes me happy to hear it helped you too!
>>142993Funny you mention this; I was debating mentioning Stoicism. I found it several years before CBT, and you're right that some of the techniques are similar.
Honestly though, Stoicism made me sad sometimes. I know thinking on the temporary nature of things is supposed to make you cherish the present and/or realize the bad won't be around forever, but imagining my friends/family/self dead was rough. It also deals with personal development in a pretty detached way, which was a double-edged sword because it helped me handle other people's negative emotions better, but didn't do much to help me handle thoughts about myself. Still, I keep a copy of Aurelius' Meditations on my shelf.
I've heard about Women Who Run with the Wolves in passing - will have to check it out!
>>143396It's not a full copy but if you search for the site "book2look" with the title they have 66 pages available. That should give you a decent idea of what's in store. I imagine the authors would rather someone feel better/get support from their work than not read it at all, or at least that's what I tell myself.
The author is a PhD in Clinical Psychology. It's not a "woo woo" pointless feel good thing with inspirational quotes. It's a workbook that will have you doing the same exercises/homework they'd give you in therapy. (Can confirm - I spent some brief time with a therapist and she gave me worksheets that were almost identical.) Benefits to you doing it yourself: no crazy counseling fees, no having to talk with a stranger, you can go at your own pace and focus on areas that seem most relevant to you.
Everything is written in a simple way with examples. It helps you recognize and break down thought patterns and develop a more realistic view of yourself. I've suffered from depression since I was a kid and my self esteem was in the gutter. Now I don't loathe myself and even feel fairly content overall. I won't say I'm Queen Confidence over here, but I'm definitely a hundred times better than I used to be.
If you deal with a lot of negative self talk and are willing to put the effort in and actually do/write all the exercises, not just read it and think about it in passing, it will likely be a big help.
No. 143466
>>142837damn hope he sees this sis
>>142752if you're a normie straight woman and this is mainly about dating, looksmaxing and not being a ethot you should try non-cucked tradthot ideologies like the "new femininity" or whatever. like this person
https://instagram.com/not_ur_typical_woman?igshid=1xf01jzcvy14c, but there are many others. if you're not easily butthurt on behalf of scrotes, you can try r/vindicta lmao
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>>142752Yeah there aren't much out there specifically aimed at females; maybe a bone thrown there when a female guest stars for an interview in Joe Rogan's podcasts, and I thought Brittany Venti's pornography & harm documentary pretty insightful (though there's drama from here but idk I don't keep up with it- but that video specifically was good).
What I personally try to do is just look at the advice on 'how to be a real man' and see which ones are manageable for me, and which ones can be done later when I've met certain thresholds. And most of their advice (like not being afraid of failure as long as you learn from them, or exercise and vitamin D sun light is good for the mind/body) is applied to all human beans, so I don't really worry about "oh but its this for my very specific circumstance??". Just take small steps in being the better you everyday, and continue maintaining or trying out new thresholds tomorrow.
There's only one thing I guess that I want more women to be aware of is how to be less insecure about beauty- because there's always going to be assholes and cunts that nitpick shit. This video accurately goes in depth with the idea of how you don't have to garner internet points, exactly like a neckbeard dwelling in his basement, and focus on the things in front of you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alul6n0kBjsnature was cruel from the start- but the sad parts make us appreciate the happy parts much more as time flows by.
No. 145061
I get your point, I like the notion of "self-improvement" and watch channels such as Academy of Ideas, Psych2Go, After Skool and The School of Life.
Aside from that, what works for me is having a very strong core of values and ideals (such as kindness, education, honesty, courage, doing the "right" thing, respect) and redirecting my acts and thoughts towards that. Developing your own identity and character is very important for peace and a "fulfilled" life in my opinion, and I'll never compromise my integrity for anyone.
Focus on yourself, do your thing and let people do their thing. Quitting social media is probably the best thing choice in relation to this, it's very refreshing to not be over-saturated with information and other people's lifes.
There are a lot of great TED talks on this matter as well, and I like Lana Blakely videos as well.
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>>145061I agree with this anon, for me it was very helpful to solidify my core values in order to improve my quality of life. In order to be able to figure these out however I read a ton of literature.
Personally I feel like good advice such be universal rather than limited to one sex..
Over the years I’ve read various books on psychology, productivity and philosophy. I’m especially fond of Cal Newport’s Deep Work since it got me to think about the things that are important to me and worth spending my time on. In a similar vein I also recommend (Angela’s Duckworth) Grit. As far as philosophy goes I rather enjoy Slavoj Zizek and am currently reading The Second Sex by Simone de Beauvoir. I’m also a proponent of Digital Minimalism although reading Newport’s book on the topic felt oddly redundant to me. I do no realize this isn’t exactly what OP was asking for, which was more of manual for ‘how to live good as a woman’ but I believe that it’s better to struggle with these issues by yourself than just following a manual. I mean, I don’t follow jordan peterson much but last time I hear the guy was addicted to meds so….
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>>142993Thank you for this recommendation.
I just bought that book for my best friend as a gift.
Thank you
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>>148845I hope she'll like it, anon!
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>>142752Jordan Petersoom is cancer and a sign of our intellectual poverty. I read someone saying how he is not the intellectual we need, but the intellectual we deserve. How true.
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>>142752As a man I say: all man up guides are useless except for orthodox christianity, and that is applicable for women aswell.
(a man) No. 219050
>>2190495 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
No. 219051
>>21905010 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 but ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.