>>580308Yeah, I mean I know that this has always been a problem but ReeRee was like one of the first prominent figures who really catapulted this horrible reputation because even though she was as poser as they come, she still found moderate success in viewership and subs on her channel when she was active and contributed to the "goth is about the beauty in darkness" and the whole "mindset" thing which went onto influence a bunch of others to think just like this and then when she became an e-whore, her thousands of subs/followers who believed taht goth is just a fashion and mindset, believed that goth can also be a kink/fetish. When you think about it, both ReeRee, Kaya (
toxic Tears), and Jake Munro were the three horseman of te apocalypse of the goth scene as far as reputation went that contributed to the 2010s ruination of the goth subculture.
You're right that if goth had stayed exclusive, it would've still been in okay shape. I know some argue that it would've died like emo did but that's not true because so long as there are people still interested, it'll never truly die and alternative music-based subcultures were never meant to be mainstream anyway.
>>580401Unfortunately you're right. I was on VampireFreaks during that time though I never got propositioned to prostitute myself, just lots of dick picks and goes trying to push sex chat onto me.
>but it is definitely worse now because back then it was only weirdo alt-scrotes (and we all knew which ones in the scene to avoid) who were trying to correlate goth and fetish. Now, even normies are doing that. So exhausting.This is such a good point. In hindsight, we only had to deal with this BS from other alt guys who happened to be creeps but they weren't all that common and easy to avoid since our circles were smaller. But now ever since #goth #gothmommy have gotten popular and mainstream on the net, we have normies now bothering us and pushing their annoying kink onto us thinking we'll just accept it and then get annoyed when we don,t some even getting vulgarly rude when you turn them down as if we owe them something. But this is also why I loathe women like ReeRee for perpetuating the notion that goth women are sexual
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