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No. 203417

thread for talking about and celebrating (or simply being willing to accept, if that's where you are) our bodies in their natural form. completely unedited and unflitered. all bodies welcome - skin conditions such as acne, body hair, stretch marks, fat, lumps and bumps. you name it! all is welcome here.

picture and video editing is becoming more advanced and detecting what is real from what is fake is getting harder. posting of truly unedited pics is highly encouraged. if you know of any online accounts focused around the idea of embracing of the natural self, please share!

No. 203418

incoming the its my choicers with their I wish I could get plastic surgery and pump shit loads of moisturizers that are meant for white skin kek

No. 203419

I'm the op but I wanted to give a bit of background on why I created this thread. recently I've been criticising my face/body almost constantly. I have acne and am hairier than most women thanks to unbalanced hormones. I grow a lot of hair on my face. I don't use instagram much but when I do I feel depressed when seeing other women whose skin looks better than mine, whose bodies are more 'beautiful'. I have to bring myself back to reality and remind myself of the staggering amount of picture editing that goes into the average instagram post. I thought a thread where we could share pictures of truly unedited and natural women who look different from the instagram cookie cutter would be refreshing and hopefully help other anons who may struggle with this!

No. 203420

>>203418
I hope not! a complete lack of plastic surgery talk would be prefered

No. 203421

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samefag op once again but I recently followed joannajkenny and I like the way she posts a lot of unedited next to edited pictures, the contrast is staggering. I'd often see pictures like the one on the right and think 'there's definitely some editing there but she's probably doesn't look too different without it' WRONG. she looks totally different but in the best way because on the left is an actual human being. I'm so thankful for accounts like hers, such a breath of fresh air.

No. 203422

>>203417
That lady is really pretty, I just wanted to say that.

I've always considered modifying yourself in the form of heavy makeup, clothing, shapewear, plastic surgery, hair dye etc a Sisyphean task because it never ends and only gets harder as you grow older. Not to mention that it's harmful for your health a lot of the time. All the money and effort you spend trying to fit into a mold set by people who don't look like you and never will, for what?

It's especially silly because I can't name a single person that looks better when shoved into an outfit that doesn't suit their body and wears trendy makeup that doesn't enhance their features, or has an expensive hairstyle that fries their hair. Not one. There's so many ways to look beautiful so I don't understand why you'd choose to copy someone else's idea of beauty.

No. 203432

>>203417
> bodies in their natural form
> green and blue eyeshadow
make it make sense

No. 203437

I’m so glad I don’t give a fuck about attractiveness. I don’t “love” or “hate” my body. How is that even possible? I brush, scrub, and soap my body to keep it clean and healthy. It does its thing, so I won’t interfere.

Fuck my age group for being spineless, pathetic losers who are ready throw money at some clown with a knife. I can’t get my head to wrap around the trend of chopping off your bits, shaving “excess” hair, or imprinting shit on your skin.

Whatever, we all waste away.

No. 203440

>hairy armpits
>hairy bush
>messy hair
>no makeup
All day

No. 203446

>>203432
But she didn't cover up her skin blemishes, pluck her eyebrows or wax her armhair. To me it looks like she's using eyeshadow for fun and not for beauty purposes, if that makes sense. But that's just my interpretation (not op btw). That or it's a picture taken in process of removing make-up because there seems to be some left over around her lips.

No. 203452

>>203446
still, blue and green eyeshadow is not natty

No. 203454

>>203452
neither is soap or deodorant but please use it

No. 203463

I was thinking today how I'm in a minority of my peers that hasn't had a cosmetic procedure (I dye my hair). I really don't like the look of anti aging procedures. My step mom had work done about a decade ago and I hate seeing her skin up close. It looks tight, shiny and sore. My mom who has sun damage from growing up in Aus has a more charming face. You can see she takes care of what she has but I might be bias kek. Glad I don't have sun damage. Feels weird comparing myself to worked on faces of my friends.

No. 203464

>>203463
There's a youthful happy glow of living a happy good life that makes anyone's wrinkly face look good.

No. 203489

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Funny how some niche micro e-celebs preach they hate men and want to eat the rich when they happily throw their internet monies at male surgeons so they can get their face and body sliced and diced then have the nerve to talk about how much "the beauty industry sux". How can you say that when you're helping keeping them in power and making their wallets fatter? How does it feel being a man's pay pig? Women surgeons make me feel gross, too.
Anyway, I haven't used foundation in such a long time, has anyone else who stopped wearing makeup notice how strange it looks on others when you watch a tv show or YouTube video? The weird part is I've never noticed these type of things when I was wearing a full face of makeup regularly.

No. 203490

>>203489
When I stopped watching beauty youtubers for like a year and I watched one again for the first time recently, I was shocked how blatant the filters were. I never realized those were a thing. Well you read about them in the commentsections but I never actually saw them, I must've been completely desensitized.

No. 203497

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>>203417
As a woman with a hairy arms I've given up on trying to "make it acceptable". I was mocked for it as a young teen, so I started wearing long-sleeved shirts. In high school I thought some of my friends were naturally hairless of something, then I slept over at one of their houses and they shaved every morning, daily. I'm happy when I meet another woman with stronger, visible arm hair, although I'd never bring it into a conversation because I don't want to treat it as a sensation, but as a normal part of life. I think patting people on the back for "being so brave" for having some visible scarring or stretchmarks feels like the complete opposite of normalization, but then, it's still going against beauty standards and it's weird to pretend people don't get shit on. It's such a sensitive topic to approach IRL.

No. 203498

>>203489
Where are these micro e celebs kek never seen them manhate.

No. 203501

I sometimes let my armpit hair grow a bit. Not long, but a bit past the point of stubble, and the annoying thing is that I can ignore moids if they said anything to me but when it's coming from my female peers it just feels so odd

We all know its natural thing and a tiny bit of covered up armpit hair isn't a sin

No. 203502

It hit me yesterday that a lot of young men today probably don't know what the female body in its natural state looks like

No. 203505

Has anyone else stopped caring about their appearance as much as they've got older? I don't mean dressing in dirty clothes and neglecting personal hygiene but for example, I used to be self conscious about my hairy arms and even shaved them a couple times when I was younger. I have acne scars and used to wear make up to conceal it but now I just don't care anymore what people think of my appearance, if they think about it at all.

No. 203508

>>203505
Not caring less as much as that I've come to the realisation how anxiety inducing wearing (skin-enhancing) make-up really has been for me and how reliant I've been on it. When I was a teen up until my early twenties, when I had to wake up in the morning the first thing I would do (after dressing and showering etc). was do my make-up. I scheduled a LOT of time for this because I had to cover all my acne with make-up. I purposely did this before eating because if it took longer than planned (I wasn't very good at it after all nor did I have good products and tools) then I could just sacrifice breakfast. Looking back it's crazy that I would readily sacrifice my breakfast to cover up my acne (it wasn't even that bad, just chronic.). I never stepped outside of the house without make-up, no one at school or at my part time jobs ever saw me without make-up including foundation. I was always looking in the mirror, every break, anxiously trying to check if I was still looking presentable, if my foundation wasn't breaking up, fixing it in secret if need be etc.

Last year because I spent a lot of time at home because of corona, I finally broke my 10 years of chronic foundation and concealer use. For the first time since I was a young teen I left the house without foundation on. I must say it's been tempting to go back to foundation use but I've been resisting so far because I'll know I'll get caught up in the anxiety around it again and hating my natural skin.

I've also come to realize it's largely self-imposed. People haven't started treating me differently since I've stopped wearing foundation, I think anyway. People haven't commented on my skin either nor did they when my acne was far more active as a teen.

No. 203511

>>203508
i have this with winged eyeliner its so retarded, i would do my makeup to go to supermarket until the pandemic. My experience is different thought cause people do treat me completely differently without makeup and i know its not in my head because its very obvious the way they are rude to me for no reason and it does kinda ruin my mood not because i feel unattractive but because people are mean. Whereas when I dress up and wear makeup they're either extra kind and going out of their way to help me or indifferent, never mean. This always fucks with my head because I love my bare face and putting on makeup does seem like a chore sometimes but knowing you'll get treated differently gets annoying.
>>203501
armpit hair on women is so beautiful, when i went to laser hair removal i was sad for like 2 weeks because i thought my pubes and armpit hair wouldn't grow back and regretted going. I saw this girl i know at the park the other day she had hairy legs and was wearing a cute dress, I took a glance at her legs for a second while talking and I didnt want to say anything because pointing it out would be weird but I hope she didnt think I was gawking at her. I love seeing women go natural in public it takes courage and encourages me to do the same. Its seems so stupid to me now that I wasted all those summers wearing jeans because I hated shaving but wasnt brave enough to wear shorts.

No. 203513

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Sophia Loren showing off her armpit hair. Hot tbh. Women look way better with body hair than men do anyway.

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>>203513
Old magazine cover of Penelope Cruz.

No. 203520

Personally, I find it so damn hard to keep up with all those trends and what you should or shouldn't do and I'm very happy that I grew up before Instagram and stuff like that was a thing.
Kids at school bullied me for my hair and I hate it until today and just don't know what to do about it, because its texture is complicated and not the typical "white" hair stuff (or it is and I just don't know) and I'm white as snow, so strange stuff and my mother was never any help. Guess I will have to overcome that part one day.
Except for that, I never wore foundation, could never find the right shade, people in Germany like tanning and so all the foundations were way too dark for me when I was at the age I cared about it. Nowadays I just don't care anymore, my skin is a little bit dry, but that's all, the rest is okay.
Also, I've got Keratosis pilaris on my legs, sometimes my arms and when I was younger I was so insecure about it, today I just don't mind it. Somehow living with self-harm scars and not hiding them made me stop worrying and being 30+ made it also easier, in the end we won't live forever, why waste time in a hospital bed recovering from plastic surgery? I'm just thankful and happy that my body is still strong and healthy despite what I put it through and I know that way less people care about your looks than you think.

No. 203521

>>203501
Armpit hair is the only thing I don't mind removing, but that's mainly because I find it easier to keep clean without hair, I'm really sweaty.

No. 203522

>>203521
Have you tried letting your armpit hair grow out? I used to always get wet spots under my armpits when I used to shave. I spent so much money on those special sweat reducing antiperspirants when I could've just let my body hair do its job. I haven't shaved in 2 years and it has stopped.


I still struggle with being afraid people will stare at my armpits, but I'm completely comfortable with my legs being hairy. I'm currently embracing wearing no bras, and I love that women on campus are doing it too. My saggy boobs shouldn't be some disgrace to society, everyone has nipples. Bras are uncomfortable and fighting gravity. I have heavy breasts that sag pretty low, so it hurt letting them go at first, but it's so natural now that I feel like I'm in hell when I put a bra on. I am afraid of staring, but no one has been bold enough (or maybe I didn't notice?). I just hate we've been sold the lie that boobs should be antigravity and always be squeezed and pushed up. It killed my self esteem going through puberty and having "grandma boobs" already bc I looked at the media and never saw anyone with natural breasts that were big.

No. 203523

Are there any anons who let their mustaches grow out? Plucking it is painful and a hassle but honestly whenever I let it grow out I feel like I look gross

No. 203527

>>203522
I have to say, I never understood the hate for bras, I love wearing bras and they have never been uncomfortable for me. That said, I support every woman burning her bra, let your boobs be free.
What I can say about people staring is that they don't, most people just don't care. I once had a woman stare at my scars (they are visible and cover both arms, and no, I don't have bpd, kek) while being on the bus and I looked her right back into the eyes, she never dared to look again. I don't mind people asking or having a short look, but staring is just not okay and she wasn't looking like a nice and caring person, more like judging me for something she wouldn't understand.

No. 203529

>>203523
Having to wear a mask everywhere sure has been convenient. Real talk, I sometimes go like 2-3 weeks without shaving it because I just forget it's there. I don't usually pluck, I shave. People either don't notice/don't care or are polite enough not to comment and I've never had anyone say anything about it to my face.

No. 203530

>>203522
I dont wear bras either. Here are some tips for girls who want to not wear bras anymore

>use a loose low hanging scarf to subtly cover your chest if you're nervous about people looking


>do a small set of push ups to develop your back and chest muscles, it'll help reduce back pain


>going braless is not for everyone. Maybe just switch to sports bras or tight vests. If you have heavy breasts and experience back pain, a bra is most likely necessary for the sake of your health

No. 203531

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So much of the media we consume is filled with people literally selected for their beauty. I try to keep this in mind, but I sometimes wonder if I'd think differently of myself if I could only compare myself to the people I see in real life.

No. 203538

>>203508
I feel you, I really have the worst memories of using makeup in high school. It was fucking miserable, constantly trying to cover up my acne (that I picked at), always reapplying it and it was always terrible quality/the wrong colour for me (it was over 10 yrs ago so not many beauty gurus to follow). I remember being at a bfs house and reapplying every couple of hours out of severe self consciousness that he'd see any of my acne, though in retrospect I was making it more obvious and gross.

I went on accutane after high school to clear it up and even though I have scarring now, I'm always so thrilled to go makeup free that I don't feel any insecurity about it. I feel way uglier with makeup on tbh, because that's not my actual face so anyone thinking I look good is just thinking my mask looks good.

No. 203539

I can't remember last I shaved, but I would like to say over 7 years, and in total, I've probably shaved myself a maximum of 10 times. I've always hated shaving and I was always open about it. I really despise that not shaven is seen as a fetish to moids, which makes me uncomfortable when I go out, because I just rather them stare in disgust than in awe fetish. (kinda like how footfags stare at toes in public)
I don't wear bras other than when I workout, and it feels so good. Please nonnies, embrace the natural state.

No. 203551

I've never shaved in my entire life. Somehow no one irl ever said anything about it. Or maybe I don't notice.

No. 203564

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>>203522
NTA but I do every fall and winter when I'm too lazy to shave. Sadly I smell and sweat so badly.
I tried so many different deodorants and antiperspirants but no matter what if I'm hairy I'm going to be sweaty.
I wax my armpit hair so it's a quick process.

That being said, I am not ashamed anymore of many things I was ashamed about as a teen. I go out with hairy legs, I only wear bras for work because our work shirt is almost transparent and white and I have a bush. I rarely wear makeup but if I do it will be a wacky eyeshadow color with lipstick and nothing else. That's as far as I go and it's for fun only. I'm usually makeup free.

No. 203573

I've never been one to carr about my body hair, I have serious hairy legs and arm hair but I don't mind it. I feel a bit happy when I see another woman with hairy arms, online or offline. I always, always have been pressured to shave and wax by my female family members, they make vomiting sounds whenever we meet and they catch a glimpse of my hairy leg or something. I was always called mannish because of it. And honestly at one point, you kind of stop paying it any attention. It doesn't affect me, well not enough to shave kek. But I still shape my eyebrows and remove my moustache hair, so that's that. I don't do makeup, and minimal skincare. Although I like wearing flattering, pretty clothes. I also feel like it's comes as a nice contrast with my makeup-free, gaunt face. I like how I feel when I wear some nice clothes with no makeup.
I hope we all can learn to embrace how our body looks naturally, because thinking about it. It's surreal women, even teen or preteen girls, are expected to spend a select amount of time everyday shaving every bit of their body. It's just so fucking stupid, I'm sorry. You can do whatever, shave, wax, whatever. I think it's stupid, when girls talk about how they gotta shave and they can't come today because they don't have time to put on makeup or shave. How its 'slay' when a girl takes an hour everyday perfectly doing her face. It's not slay, you don't see men encouraged to pursue this. So much time can be put into much better things than that. Even 'vain' things like exercise or something. Or even just laying down. I don't know, I have a lot of feelings about it.

No. 203580

>>203539
sadly, everything women do is some fetish for one idiot out there, so, let's do whatever we want and if someone wants to give you money on the streets because he likes your hairy body, take it and buy you something nice, kek.

>>203573
only make-up I will wear is mascara and eyeshadow, the rest, don't have time, don't care, don't want spend hundreds to get the right fitting products. The time people started to make their big bold eyebrows I stopped caring. I have very light eyebrows, you sometimes can't see them and now I should paint black marker eyebrows on my face, no, thank you, I'm not a clown.

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Mini-dump incoming

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No. 203866

Never cared about my blond moustache until recently and wax removal is so painful that I chose some cheap cream to eliminate it. Terrible mistake, that thing is toxic as hell and it's making my face veins a the moustache zone coming up to the surface. I actually like that males are weirded out by women with moustaches.

No. 203867

>>203866
I'm guilty of shaving my blonde moustache. though with masks, I haven't had to worry as much. mask-wearing makes me use less make up, as well. I basically just do my eyes because I like making them stand out.

In general though, I only shave under my arms consistently because if I let it go any longer than a weekend, it feels uncomfortable. I only shave my legs to whatever point will be visible with what I'm wearing… or, if it's fall/winter and I can see the hair poking out of my tights… which yes, happens to me. A lot lol

But I don't bother with arms, though mine are just as hairy as most guys, if not more. But it's really fine and blonde, so no one has ever said anything.

No. 203878

I'm hairy as shit and a few years ago I just kind of burned out on dealing with it. I shave my PCOS beard/stache but everything else stays, even the chest hair. I don't care if people find it gross, I would need to shave literally every inch of my body to be hairless and it's too much work.

I get the most negative reactions from (het) women surprisingly. Men give me weird looks but only women have made comments. It's like seeing my hair makes them feel weird and defensive about their choice to shave, so they lash out.

No. 203879

40 year old chiming in to say non of it matters. seriously, i've been fat and nerdy since i was 15 and i'm gonna point out that it didn't matter if i put on make up or wore posh clothes or acted different; i still got jobs and and had girlfriends/boyfriends. I had friend groups and hobbies and fun holidays. and i saw people get lost just trying to be who they weren't. These people also got set on by cruel bullies and abusive partners. Not there fault, and i always did my best to protect them but if your constantly looking in the mirror and telling your self off, your not living and you can be taken advantage of.
not worth it. and your the only one who cars anyway.

No. 203908

my cat reminds me every day I am not fat and I am just a fluffy over grown sized kitten she loves. then again she's round like a ball, but at least she loves me unconditionally, its kind of funny really how our pets look like us, when I lose weight she loses some too, I gain she gains a little bit.

No. 203912

Normal skin. So-called "flaws" like variation in tone is just how skin looks.

No. 203927

anons, how can I feel less stressed and self-conscious about chin hairs? a lot of it is just blonde peach fuzz but I very often get a couple of fairly wiry dark hairs poking out and it's so mortifying

No. 203929

>>203417
Chiming in to tell my fellow Asians that life has gotten so much better since I let go of my internalized colourism and have learned to embrace my skin tone. I used to use whitening soaps, try to avoid the sun and constantly worry about my SPF use. Of course it’s good to use sunscreen to avoid burns and cancer, but I admit I was doing it because I felt lesser when I was tan and was scared of wrinkles and aging badly. I genuinely love my skin now from its wintertime pale olive to the warm light brown in summer. I don’t even care that other Asians might find me ugly or lower class, I feel so comfortable in my skin and free.

No. 203930

I have chin/neck hair that's left over from my tard/tran days so I'm probably comparable to say a woman with pcos when it comes to what's still growing in now. I pluck but I don't do it obsessively. If a few stubbles worth of hair are there I don't stress it.

I joke with friends about my chin hairs, I do the same with partners and don't make any secret of when I'm plucking it. It's not a 'hide in the bathroom' routine. It's the one last place where I still pluck though. I'm grooming it but not full on hiding its existance I guess.

No. 203931

>>203927
Idk I just got used to them, it's fun to try to pluck them with just my nails.

No. 203934

>>203931
Nta but I sometimes pluck mine by hand too lol, like I mindlessly pull them out while watching tv. There's always one though that just refuses to budge without the tweezer being brought out. Every time.

No. 203939

>>203934
You just don't try hard enough anon, keep plucking at it and you'll pull it I believe in you.

No. 203986

I'm pretty neutral towards hair. I think it's odd to obsess over hairiness or hairlessness, though I do gravitate towards women that don't shave. I sometimes trim my pits and bush because I get too sweaty in summer but I haven't gone actually hairless since my early 20s.

Arm hair I have no clue why people bother removing. It looks fine, I literally don't even notice it on anybody regardless of how dark it is. I also don't get why one would remove mustaches, unless it's bearded lady tier. Most people don't have facial hair that's dense enough to remove imo.

No. 203991

I still struggle with pushing back on negative thoughts about my own body, but ever since I started committing more to pushing back on negative thoughts about other women (which have always been hand in hand for me with thoughts about myself)…..all I see is how beautiful women are. Like, once you shift to no longer seeing body hair, skin texture, etc as immediately hideous, it's like….god, we're all so fucking worried about this shit and yet women are so fucking gorgeous everywhere, all the time. Maybe it's just me also pushing back on automatically negative thoughts about women in general lol, because I get real into my feelings about how we're all working so hard in such an unfair world and I wish I could do more. But man, today I saw a grandma doing yoga stretches in the sun and I thought, holy shit I bet you've thought you were hideous at one point and you're there in tree pose looking like a fucking sun goddess. I hope you all get to see yourselves like I'd probably see you!

No. 204116

My nose is not a ski slope button nose but fukkit that never stopped people finding me cute and if I changed it that'd be a damn shame, never will

No. 204159

>>203878
as someone who also shaves their face everyday I would honestly feel so happy to see you in public with your hairy chest. I can't tolerate the face hair but I leave my arm hair which is very dark and thick. I don't know how I'd react if someone pointed it out negatively but I live in a cold climate and mostly wear long sleeves.

how have you dealt with those reactions in the past?

No. 204160

>>203991
I love this comment especially the part about the old lady doing yoga, I hope to be her one day

No. 204163

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I really liked this photo series by Sophie Harris-Taylor celebrating women with different types of skin. I'll post a few but he's the link

https://www.insider.com/photo-series-showing-womens-real-skin-from-acne-to-rosacea-2019-11

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1/3

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2/3

No. 204166

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i feel so ugly lately. like i dont strive to be an ig model or anything, but im worried i have no natural appeal. is it possible to be objectively bad looking? im not deformed or anything and on good days i can look in the mirror and think i'm fine, i'm just average. but these days i hate myself so much and im like spiraling fixated on how ugly i am. it sucks cuz i know life would be so much easier if i was pretty. i feel worthless and i dont know what to do. ive never been into makeup or fashion which obviously wouldnt be the answer anyway. how do i get through this? how am i supposed to accept or even embrace being so ugly? i wish so badly that i could just be naturally beautiful

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3/3

No. 204168

>>204166
>im like spiraling fixated on how ugly i am

I can relate. I think we all criticise ourselves way more harshly than we criticise others. if you're looking at your nose or your eyebags or acne and obsessing you have to remind youself that no on else will obsess over these things about you. have you ever obsessed over someone else's nose? (maybe a stupid question to ask on lolcow but as long are you're not a cow I honestly don't think anyone is ever going to care that much about something like that on you)

you said you can somedays think you're fine, if just average at the start of your comment and then call yourself ugly by the end of it. you're prpbably also like me in that on days when you're beating yourself up you think you're uglier. try being kinder to yourself, smile at yourself in the mirror if you can. I'm sure you're not ugly and even if you were that wouldn't make you worthless. try finding small things about yourself you do like. maybe your lips are nice or your eyes, focus on those features and remind yourself about them. these tips probably aren't worth much coming from someone else with low self esteem but I hope they may be!

No. 204195

>>204168
Nta but what if people irl point out your flaws and stare at you?

No. 204205

>>203513
agreed anon. The fact that I can only grow dainty little fluffs of armpit hair makes me feel more feminine than shaving it

No. 206318

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I've been thinking about my bodyhair a lot recently and saved some pictures from tumblr just to remind myself that plently of women have hair in places that you don't usually see in media

mini spam coming up since some of these pics might help any hairy anons

No. 206319

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anyone else grow hairs like this on their chests?

No. 206320

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No. 206321

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No. 206322

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No. 206326

>>206320
This is a pretty picture

No. 206338

>>206319
yes, same distribution but lighter than picrel i see peach fuzz when i look down my decolletage im not bothered, even in my i-must-shave-everything years i kinda liked that peach fuzz and didnt touch it, does anyone grow hair on their lower back? like the type of hair you get on your nipples, thick and long but only 1-2 strands, i've seen guys with full on bushes on their lower backs and i think it looks extremely ugly and unsanitary but i love mine, its just so funny to me that it appeared out of nowhere i started finding it cute i think of it as my tail

No. 206392

>>206321
really beautiful

No. 206393

>>203539
Late, but on the topic of hair being a fetish- it shouldn't be a fetish. Natural body hair should be a normal attraction just like being attracted to curvy women or red hair. It wouldn't be a fetish if society didn't shame women into shaving. I'm attracted to hairy women and I wouldn't call it a fetish, just normal homosexuality. Of course moids always take it a step too far. But I wish more people were attracted to/okay with hair.

No. 206419

>>206322
i love this picture! so pretty

No. 207413

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I stopped plucking my monobrow 3 years ago. Used to pluck individual hairs using a magnifying mirror every morning before school since I was 13.
I'm ethnically Indian, never saw a monobrow on white girls or my family either since they plucked; it was my biggest insecurity. No longer caring is very relieving.

No. 207420

>>207413
White women are pressured to tweeze their monobrows as much as you are. My natural brows look almost exactly like the pic you posted except they grow a little closer to my eyes. Glad you learned go embrace yours nonny! I go back and forth between loving mine and leaving them natural, and tweezing them to all hell. I have embraced my leg, armpit and pube hairs but eyebrows have been difficult for me to love, along with my teeth. I've made good progress on accepting my natural self but a little girl (my relative) asked me the other day why my teeth are crooked and I wanted to cry. I know little kids have no filter but I can't help but think that's the only thing people see when they look at me.

No. 207428

>>203417
I have eczema and it’s really bad on my face at the minute, it looks like I’ve aged 10 years because of how dried out my skin looks. I do my best to keep it moisturised. As cheesy as it is, I love my skin as is. It makes me me and I’ve been through so much with it.

No. 207442

I stopped waxing my face since I've had to wears masks everywhere anyway. I've never been especially femme but I was self conscious about my facial hair. Since leaving it alone, I've realized its really not that bad and ita definitely not gross and I don't intend on waxing ever again.

>>207413
Eyebrow plucking is so painful and unnecessary, and a natural brow even if it's a uni is infinitately less jarring to me than the whole thick, painted on brows that are popular now.

No. 207452

Dentists will try to get you to have your wisdom teeth removed even if they aren't causing any problems but…idk… I think they're supposed to allow mature humans to kronch up tough fibrous roots & leaves and give the youths the tasty soft stuff. Now that several of mine have come in, I mostly get cravings for bitter & herbal flavors rather than sweet things. Coincidence?… maybe.

No. 207620

i used to get eczema between my fingers every summer, placquey flakey very itchy skin. no matter how much i moisturized it would happen every summer, and while moisturizer did make it feel better for maybe 30 minutes it didnt last.

this year my partner was like "if it happens in the summer when it's humid, maybe it's because you're too moist?" so i tried just doing nothing and trying to get my hands wet as rarely as possible, no moisturizer, gloves for doing dishes/laundry, no going in pools (well they were all closed anyway), drying my hands meticulously after washing. and after about two weeks…it went away almost completely. maybe i'm retarded but it looked like dry flaky skin and everyone always told me to moisturize. i had this problem every summer since i was 7 and it turns out all i had to do was just…nothing.

No. 208100

>>207452
As you get older your taste buds become less sensitive towards bitter flavours and hence you crave them more.

Nothing to do with growing some replacement teeth your caveman body thinks you need after a couple of decades of eating tough, uncooked food. Do you also think becoming less naive and childish is because you grew taller?

No. 208233

Bit of a rant, but it’s so annoying when I see people (especially other women) repeat the same old “body hair makes you smelly” myth. If having hair traps that much sweat and makes it so much more difficult to clean yourself, shouldn’t that apply to the hair on your head as well? Nobody ever says women should shave their heads because long hair is unhygienic. Stupid double standard that only applies to “undesirable” body hair.

No. 208237

I don't care to have completely smooth shaven legs. I have had terrible experiences with shaving with razor burn and ingrown hairs. Getting an electrical razor and going out it so my leg hair doesn't poke out of my tights is enough. I also find the idea of maintaining a bald pussy fucking retarded, what's the point, as long as it's groomed nobody cares.

No. 208239

>>208233
It only makes sense for armpit hair, every else? That would mean all men smell like sewage which isn't true. I personally keep my armpit hair short because it's comfortable and i use a very strong anti-perspirant that would clump in the hairs.

No. 208273

I'm not sure whether my body hair is growing in faster lately but shaving seems like such an endless chore. I've no interest in enduring pain or spending money on options like waxing or laser. For me it's shaving or nothing… and I'm about done with shaving.

I about to have a bath and go exfoliate to get rid of any ingrowns. Would love it if I could just leave all hair alone after this. Maybe trim. Feels dumb to always be shaving, exfoliating, checking for stubble, exfoliating, shaving, repeat repeat repeat. I'm fucking tired of it.

No. 208282

I always get mad ingrown hairs every time I shave my legs with a razor. I use an electric shaver now and though I can't get a very close shave, I get much less ingrowns. like a 80% decrease. I wish I didn't have to shave my legs but I also don't want to have some busybody point out my leg hair in public

>>208273
>shaving seems like such an endless chore
ugh I know. I sit on my bedroom floor and shave my legs with my electric razor while listening to a podcast and after I've done (which can take like 25 mins) I'm always like 'great got to do this again in a few days!'

I so with you on the exfoliate, shave, checking for stubble, exfoliating, shaving neverending cycle. I'm tired as fuck of it too. I want to be one of those women who leave their hair on their legs alone but I have incredibly dark, thick hair and it's highly noticable. also don't think there are many guys who'd put up with a hairy woman like me. I have enough ugly things about my body without also remaining hairy on top of it

No. 208285

>>208282
>also don't think there are many guys who'd put up with a hairy woman like me
So don't put up with them then.

No. 208289

>>208285
this honestly. men do not care enough to remove their body hair when we think it's unattractive, so why should we do it for them?
if you anons are doing it because it's something you really want to do then fair enough but honestly it sounds exhausting. i leave most of mine alone, im covered up most of the time anyway but hair removal is such an ordeal i truly do not have the energy for it.

No. 208308

>>208285
nta but im a hairy ass bitch, and most boyfriends I've had never cared about me shaving.
If a man is grossed out by hairy legs, thats not a you issue to fix, its his issue.

No. 208314

>>208308
I've only been in 2 serious relationships but similar experience. I tend to shave right at the beginning and then by the time I'm regularly sleeping over they've seen some stubble so I relax more and more over time. Never had a complaint. I'd usually still shave here and there but very infrequently. It's not like the guys rejoiced on the rare occasions where I did shave again. It wasn't an issue.

I've had phases where I slept around a bit between relationships, I hated how I felt pressure to be bald all over for no strings meetings. It's the number one reason why I stopped having sex outside of a comfy relationship. If I can't be hairy and comfortable in front of you then I'm just not sharing my body with you.

No. 208325

>>208308
this.
I shave my legs a few times a year, keep my pits and pubes trimmed. No one has complained. Better than being fully shaven but unwashed, plus no stubble.

No. 208349

>>208308
>>208314
Same here. Incoming sappiness When my bf and I cuddle he's gotten used to petting my arm hair as if it were a cat when we are watching TV.

No. 208352

Is it weird that I wish my pubic/armpit hair was more dense? Idk if this makes sense.

No. 208800

>>208352
i feel you on the pit hair, mine is fine and blonde, barely visible even though it’s pretty long.

No. 209752

>>203564
This photo is cool as fuck
My head hair is thin, but my body hair is THICK, DARK, and COARSE. I have hair on my areolas and between my boobs, and an intense happy trail.
TBH i feel like it looks badass but the amount of pubes I have do get inconvenient.
I have pretty severe body image issues so I actively try to embrace my natural look as much as possible. I never want my 'default face' to be a face with makeup on.

No. 209974

>>208285
I needed this. thank you

No. 209975

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here to post more pics and keep this thread alive

my arm hair is like this and I love seeing other women with hairy arms. I refuse to remove my arm hair in case their are other women out there who will see it and feel less alone

No. 209976

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another

No. 209977

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and another one

No. 209978

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and a final one for today

No. 209980

>>209752
my head hair is really fine too (though still dark brown)! but my body hair is darker. I have body issues too, I'm underweight and my body hair coupled with that really has a negative effect on my sense of self confidence. I can gain weight but I may never be able to control the hair so I am trying to learn to embrace it even if sometimes it makes me just want to cry

as for the default face thing, I totally agree. I wear a little bit of concealer but could never go back to full foundation. living a life where you don't feel right or happy or yourself without makeup isn't fun

No. 209987

>>209976
I have to admit that this is the first time I see belly hair on a woman that isn't related to some kind of fetish. Feels nice since I don't shave mine. Thanks OP

No. 210469

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Overdue for my wax. My toehair gets caught in my socks. If I let it, it will reach nearly over my nail.

No. 210475

I have really long, thick, dark pubic hair, that goes really high up my stomach and i'm super self conscious about it but hate to shave it. recently had to get some medical stuff done and I had to take off my pants and lift my shirt, I was so terrified of any nurses or assistants giving me weird looks and stuff, but nothing happened, the only one concerned with the state of my body hair where female relatives. Logically I know they've seen far worse things, but it didn't make me feel less vulnerable

No. 210481

I wish I had nice uniform soft looking body hair like the pictures in this thread. The hair on my stomach is a few really dark, long hairs. My leg hair points in all different directions and it kinda looks like pubes…and the back of my legs are bald

No. 210653

>>210469
is this your foot anon? I shave my toe hair but not any hair on the top of my foot. waxing there sounds painful, does it get easier with each time?

No. 210654

>>210475
the fair majority of people in the medical field wouldn't give you any weird looks. they've seen so many different bodies and they know we're all different. when I started going for smear tests I was concerned but I realised the nurse sees vulvas everyday, all different looking ones with various levels of pubic hair. having hair like yours is perfectly normal too. I understand you feeling vulnerable about it though.

No. 210655

>>210481
>My leg hair points in all different directions and it kinda looks like pubes…and the back of my legs are bald

same. my leg hair is wild and there are areas with no hair, I think that's down to the fabric of my pants chafing away at the hairs throughout the day. I've seen that happen on men too

No. 210656

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I liked this GQ shoot of Emma Corrin. she's not super hairy or anything but it's nice to see leg and arm hair. she also has a fair few moles on her arms which is just like mine. I've always hated them on myself but I think they look pretty on her.

I would love a huge shift where this kind of thing becomes the norm (not shaving legs). there is still so much stigma around it. I don't want to shave mine (not to make a statement or anything. just because it's time consuming, can be painful and grows back the next fucking day) but I also want to exist in the world without being judged for it. kudos to Emma Corrin for not shaving for this shoot.

No. 210682

>>210656
i love seeing things like this. my arm hair is around the same density as hers and she looks pretty cute with them which makes me feel better about mine haha

No. 210687

>>210656
I had to click on it and look close to even see the leg hair.. that's part of what frustrates me about social rules around womens leg hair. My leg hair can't be seen from a few feet away and yet I know I cant walk around with it out without having to anticipate a reaction. It's such a non thing … and yet it's such a big thing? lol

No. 210688

>>210687
Are you sure? I've walked around with my leghair that you can only see relatively close up and I've never had a reaction.

No. 210690

>>210688
I have tattoos on my legs so I get stopped and asked about them sometimes, always nice comments but it adds more risk when it comes to hair and reactions to that

No. 210835

>>210469
Those are so man feet, begone tran

No. 210836

>>209975
I have the same and I kind of like it after growing out of that must be pretty mania, it's soft and fluffy and keeps dickwads away.

No. 211144

>>210690
>more risk
girl, what risk? someone looking funny at most? you have tattoos, you don't have to worry about that.

No. 211519

Anyone else just not shave their legs? I feel like no one really gives a fuck. I shave my armpit hair and vag (personal choice, just don't like hair there) but I just never give a fuck about my legs and no one has ever said shit about it. They probably don't even notice. Plus….I like being warm in the winter!

No. 213350

I have stopped shaving all together, my skin hated it and it felt so stupid to be removing those just them to grow right back. I can't even think to go back to itchy legs and sore pits and those ingrown hair in my vag, no one should.
Nowadays I feel more confident in my hairy pits and legs, I sometimes trim my pits and some pubes on the lips cause they grow just so long and wiry.
It feels kinda funny that I would love to have a bigger/thicker bush, my body hair is pretty light and doesn't curl "prettily" like some other women. I still love em tho.

Only comments I have gotten were of my leg hair and all by other women, nothing mean really though, just lamenting how "brave" and "radical" I was sporting them. Like yeah thanks but my body in it's natural state isn't some kind of grand feminist statement, it's just my hair.

No. 213372

This summer I went to the beach with my bush fully out and on display. Nothing has felt that freeing since.

No. 213612

This thread is so nice to read! I've been natural for quite a while now. I think since my late teens, I never got into all the social imposed beauty bullshit. I did use makeup because of acne and because it did fit my aestethic, but I've dropped that in my 20's. Now I'm 30, hairy, braless, bareface and with natural hair. I'm so exited for more grays to grow, I'd love to have salt&pepper hair.
Can't say it's all happiness though, I'm still a bit self conscious about my body hair (very dark and thick against my fair skin) and I try to wear clothes that cover it all, even in summer. My bf is super supportive and has encouraged me to go out in shorts and skirts, he's so sweet.
Being natural was wonderful to accept myself and be confortable in my own skin. The only problem I've found is in fashion, cause I feel awkward wearing very feminine clothing while having hairy-everything. Boho/hippy/morigirl are the styles I think could work best, but I should build a wardrobe from scratch. Otherwise I prefer to dress in an androginous way, feels safe if someone catchs a glimpse of hair that way.

No. 213637

>>213372
I've always wanted to try being naked outside, but I feel like no matter where I go there will always be people.

No. 213655

>>213612

>I feel awkward wearing very feminine clothing while having hairy-everything


I know exactly what you mean. the idea of wearing something very pretty or glamourous next to my very hairy arms feels… wrong? Idk. I guess it's since being feminine is also seen as being hairless which is bullshit but it still sticks with us. the idea of wearing a very feminine dress with a low cut back feels weird to me cause my back has hair. I don't think I'd be comfortable wearing it. you sound v cool btw, I'd be your friend. I'm 31 and also kind of want to salt n pepper hair.

No. 213656

>>213350
>my body in it's natural state isn't some kind of grand feminist statement, it's just my hair.

it's so weird isn't it? shaving your legs as a woman is something that is so expected of you that when you don't do it, your inaction and simply leaving your body as is, is seen as an action or a statement

No. 213657

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does anyone know who this person is? I found her pic on a body hair positivity blog but it didn't state who she was. I wanted to see if there were any other pics of her cause she has back hair like mine

No. 213659

>>213657
wtf is going on with her arm
also that's katherine mcnamara

No. 213660

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belly hair/arm hair. wish I knew who this model was too. anyone? I thought it was jenna malone but if it is I can't find any other pics from this shoot unfortuantely. I wanna build a folder of pics like this to help me when I feel down about my own body hair/also share in this thread

No. 213661

>>213659
ty! her arm does look super skinny, maybe it's photoshopped? unless you're refering to somehting else

No. 213663

>>213661
you're welcome sweetie
it's just that her arm is so red for some reason, like she scratched it idk lol

No. 213665

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>>213660
okay I found it who this is, Sita Abellan. posting this other shot from the shoot. there were other pics but they all feature nudity

>>213663
I noticed the redness too, it does look kind of sore

No. 213718

>>213657
>>213659
It was actually her arms I noticed first, I think she has keratosis pilaris like I do. Would be nice to see more positivity around that too

No. 213733

>>213718
lot of redheads in particular seem to have keratosis pilaris. I know I certainly do. I use a body scrub just to get rid of dead skin cells and improve blood flow but it's never going to completely disappear and I'm much more accepting of it now. a lot of other people around me have it too which helps.

No. 213772

>>213733
when i cut my dairy/meat intake by about 75% (other reasons) my lifelong kp went away completely and hasnt come back. it can be a result of too much protein in your diet. something to try

No. 213788

>>213772
thanks for the tip nonna!

No. 217745

>>213657
i used to have thoughts about shaving my back before, i have dark hair on the nape of my neck and stuff like this lady >>206321 and it made me feel somehow 'bad' for OTHER people for seeing my hair. it's stupid, but i still feel this way sometimes and get urges to shave my whole ass back. it's seriously so ingrained in us, this hatred of bodyhair on women. and feeling ashamed of ours. my mother made me feel the worst about it, when i was a teen i hurt my shoulders really bad and while she was checking on them she had to comment about my bodyhair and yucked at it while i was in pain. she also makes gagging and vomiting noises and faces when she catches glimpses of my leghair whenever i'm with her. so immature.

No. 217917

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I really hate how the only acceptable way to be skinny is to be completely flat-stomached. I wouldn't consider myself ever being fat but I also never considered myself skinny because I always had this ridge of fat separating my stomach and pubic area that never lets my stomach look completely smooth. I could try to get tonned but the fact is I can never get rid of this raised area. It resembles Greek statues, in a way I feel like they accepted the roundness of women's bodies, and not in the way it is done today where it only matters if you're thick in the 'right' places. We try so hard to fight for the unattainable for our bodies, and for what?

No. 217931

>>217917
I look very similar to those old statues, it's the sort of natural feminine body that results from barely exercising and slight overeating but not to severe excess. Honestly I don't blame people for not liking that look anymore, I'm not a fan of fake, exaggerated bodies either but fit people just look better and put more effort into their appearance.

Sucks for me, I might have been considered hot if the local village moids had barely seen any other female bodies and had nothing to compare me to because there was no photography or film or internet or global travel.

No. 217935

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>>217931
>body that results from barely exercising and slight overeating
No, not really. Even women who exercise regularly and eat well will tend to store a decent amount of fat by the virtue of being women. In truth we burn more fat than men during exercise, but do not lose overall body fat as easily. Our bodies are made to retain as much fat as possible so we're prepared for childbirth. We bloat easily due to hormones and have a whole reproductive system in our gut which takes up space, and the more estrogen we produce the harder it is for us to get rid of fat. Overall we are simply primed to have more of it regardless of activity levels. It's why a woman's healthy bf percentage range is much higher than that of men's. The sort of body shown in >>217917 post is how the healthiest, strongest gym-goers I know look outside of bodybuilders cutting to achieve dangerously low (and unsustainable) percentages. The kind of flat, "flawless" body you're idealizing doesn't even exist among fit people 24/7. They are posing/flexing, working with good lighting, holding it in and taking photos pre-meal to obtain the most flattering image.

No. 217936

>>217935
Nta but thanks for this nonna

No. 217940

>>217935
I'm not talking about fitness influencers, my point of reference for fit people are women I know irl, and am close to enough to be familiar with their eating habits and exercise routines (they aren't extreme, they don't cut calories). Maybe they have a little pouch of fat but they don't look like >>217917 because they have too much muscle to be that doughy.

I'm not saying everyone needs to be fit. I think fitness is attractive and I respect it, but I don't think attractiveness is the be all and end all. It's totally fine to prioritise other things over a perfect body, clearly I do.

No. 217942

>>209975
Holy shit my arm hair is also like that. For years ive been insecure about it and ive always worn jackets and sweaters regardless of how hot the weather is. I've been jealous of my friends who had zero to little arm hair. I'm SE Asian so you can guess the level of insecurity I had. I had a Chinese woman directly stare at my arms in an elevator ride like i was some gorilla. Im still trying to learn how to stop giving a shit and i think its slowly going well thanks to all the masking. I'm enjoying dressing up in short sleeved shirts or tank top these days.

No. 217951

>>217940
The round upper hip shape is mostly because of bone structure. Yes, having fat there will make it look rounder but it's still gonna be there even if you're skinny.

No. 217973

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I am addicted to dyeing my hair and I wonder if anyone in this thread would have thoughts or advice.

Multiple times now I've gone back to my own hair colour just to dye it back to my "favourite" bright hair colour when I can't stand the feeling anymore. I have conditioned myself to be afraid of being boring, and that is ultimately how I feel with my own colour: not special enough.

Logically I know nobody else cares what I look like. I find natural women beautiful, but I fail to be one myself. I don't use social media, but I have this intense snowflakey need to look different from other people, and it is embarrassing to feel that way. The feeling contradicts with who I truly am. I'm so tired of this addiction.

No. 217981

>>217973
Do you like having bright hair? That'a really all that matters.

No. 217988

>>217917
Naa don't feel bad about it. Some women will have that natural fanny pack whether they're fat or skinny, some skinny women will not have a thigh gap but will have hip dips, et cetera, et cetera.

No. 218016

>>217917
Even many women don't get it. I've had that kind of fat on my abdomen since before puberty, I've ranged from athletic, to skinny ED chan, to average 120 lb 5'4 woman and I've never seen a single change in that area. It's kind of like acne, everyone wants to assume what you're doing wrong but so many women in the media lipo that area so perceptions are even more skewed.

No. 218020

I just noticed some stretch marks on my hip that I somehow never noticed before. I thought they were new ones, but they're white already, so they've got to be old. Can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually like how it looks lmao And not even in a tumblrish "these are my tiger stripes, strucken by thunder uwu" way but just like… cute? lmao I'm kinda fascinated by me never noticing them before even though they're so big.

No. 218023

>>217917

I'm glad you posted this anon because I've been obsessed with my lower stomach for ages. It does feel comforting that other girls feel that way because the majority of my girlfriends are naturally super thin and can't gain weight.

The last 3 months I've probably been the most dedicated to the gym, I don't drink all the time anymore and my diet is pretty good considering that I don't eat out much at all and cook a lot. Still after all of that my lower belly is still crazy. Everyone's body is different but is it possibly yours has to do with bloating as well? I feel like I have a huge issue with bloating, so if anyone has advice it would be greatly appreciated.

No. 218025

>>217973
This sounds very melodramatic. What a harrowing addiction, anon.

No. 218043

>>217917
>>217940
I've looked like that statue in the abdomen area since I was a preteen and I've always been very athletic. It's just some people's fat distribution, I also happen to be Greek so maybe it's ethnic, don't know.
My mom also looks like that, so does my grandma. It's not "doughy", it's normal. No matter how much you work out, if your fat distribution is a certain way you won't be ripped with a six pack because women don't and shouldn't have a bf% that low unless you like being malnourished and losing your period.

No. 218054

>>218043
If I can add on to this (for straight nonnas, although I'm sure many lesbians probably feel the same) many men find this feminine and sexy! It is!
I also struggle with accepting that part of my body. I hate that it makes me look like I have a gut in certain rise pants. But it really is super feminine and beautiful!!

No. 218082

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>>217917
Aphrodite belly supremacy

No. 218092

>>218082
Yeah I have that kind of line too even though I’m underweight naturally and have some prominent abs at times. Women tend to carry more fat in that area so there’s no way to get rid of it.

No. 218094

>>218054
i am bi and yes it is a very sexy part of a woman, any curvy lines are always attractive.

realizing my attraction to women did a lot for my self esteem because i realized i would be attracted to women with the same body as me, so why was i being so hard on myself about it?

No. 218111

>>218094
>realizing my attraction to women did a lot for my self esteem because i realized i would be attracted to women with the same body as me, so why was i being so hard on myself about it?
As a heterosexual this is very interesting to learn and makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing nonnington

No. 218123

>>218111
>nonnington
ily anon kek

No. 218127

nonnas i have hairy nips (as do a lot of women) but i am not ok with them. i pluck the really dark hairs but they get ingrown sometimes… which is disgusting lol. no one should have ingrown nipple hairs. i dont really know what to do, i mean no one is looking at my breasts these days but if they were i would have to pluck the hairs out because i really dont feel comfortable with them. also does anyone else have really bumpy nipples? i never see pictures of nipples with montgomery glands as prominent as mine which also makes me insecure about them. i just want to be fine with my fucking nipples.

No. 218238

>>218127
I have everything you listed anon, I can't give you any tips on accepting yourself as I still struggle with it myself but I can say 100% that you can find a partner who will love your body no matter what if that's what you're worried about.

No. 218563

>>218238
I think so too, it just bugs me I cant have more attractive nips if I want a hottie bf having nice nipples is a plus

No. 218741

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Just wanted to post Mitski in this thread since she has visible arm hair. She was the first female celeb I love who I noticed had it.

I used to get teased in middle school about my arm hair and I ended up shaving it after that but stopped when I was in college. Then about a year ago I stopped shaving everything. Life is so much easier now. No longer itchy, prickly, or dealing with in-growns.

No. 219011

>>218741
I love her. Also I relate to you nona. I spent so much of high school shaving my entire body bc I’m fairly hairy and had been made fun of for it as a kid. I’m older now and no longer shave my arms, armpits, or stomach. I want to get over shaving my legs but it’s so hard for me to mentally overcome how society practically expects it. I also live in an area where I’d probably be judged if I didn’t do it. It’s frustrating to no end. I just want to be able to get over the mental block.

No. 219020

>>218741
thanks for posting! I love Mitski so this is nice to see

No. 219021

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Marilyn is considered one of the most beautiful women and she had lots of visible facial hair.

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I am so glad this thread took off. I have a few more pics. I had a moment last night while washing my hands where I had to roll up my sleeves and felt down looking at my arm hair so I went looking for more famous ladies with hairy arms

No. 219096

>>219021
It's probably been bleached to look less visible, but i love how it's just made it look like she has really glamorous platinum blonde mutton chops lol, like she made it match her hair on purpose.
Now I'm going to think about Marilyn with a dashing little white moustache

No. 219162

>>217931
>>217935
She is right. I still had fat there when I was underweight and very active. That's just how women are.

>>219021
She looks beautiful. Thanks nonny for sharing.

No. 219187

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I just watched James Walsh's recent video on filters and I think a lot of people can see an obvious shopped or heavily filtered picture and just laugh at how unnatural it looks, however the most damaging kind are the ones that look realistic. some of these apps do such a good job at making the picture look believable it's shocking how good they've got.

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I'm pleased we're becoming more aware of this kind of thing though and there are accounts showing before and afters

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No. 219192

I can't wait for the drag makeup and filter trend to die out. Hopefully it will start in 2022.

No. 219196

>>219190
>>219188
>>219189
Women look way better and fresh without that damn drag makeup
>>219192
Same, i hate it so much

No. 219197

Just wanna say I think women with big noses are fucking gorgeous. I don't have one, but lots of other women in my family do yes, we're jewish and they think I'm just being nice when I compliment them, but I'm really not. Whenever there's that rare Streisand or Sarah Jessica Parker who's prominent in media and doesn't get a nose job, I watch their movies/shows/music videos/etc and just fucking marvel at how much I enjoy looking at a face that hasn't been sanded down into the same fucking pixie cuteness. There's such an incredible, proud, queenly beauty to them.

Tbh as every year of my life goes by, I realize more and more how fucking gorgeous I find everything women are supposed to blast away. Like, a 50-something woman with crows feet and freckles and all that is fucking luminous to me. It sounds so cheesy, but when I can tell a woman is comfortable in her skin, it shows. I don't want to act like "oh, someone finds this hot so now you have worth too," but also, jesus, I don't understand how someone can be attracted to women and only ever find one kind of idealized 22-year-old attractive.

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>>219197
Whoops, dropped pic

No. 219209

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>>219021
Arm hair too

No. 219210

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>>219209
W/o the iconic makeup

No. 219211

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No. 219218

>>219211
MM the prettiest hoe and best catfish in the world. No woman can surpass her in terms of beauty even if it’s fake. At least her angelic smile is genuine.
>>219021
I thought she used to shave her face. Maybe that pic she just didn’t shave it yet because it looks bleached.

Can’t post pics for some reason thus can’t contribute sadly test

No. 219248

I find it so beautiful when women don't wear makeup. You can really appreciate their natural features and admire their confidence. I love looking at eyes with no makeup.

No. 219409

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>>203417
I like that the op pic includes large raised pores on/around the nose. I've had those for as long as I can remember and used to think they weren't "normal" because not everyone's is that pronounced. I see pores that look more like dents or craters, but not raised dots. Texture should be more normalized and the obsession with smooth/blurred skin has only gotten worse over the years. You can do everything "right" with skincare, but still have texture.

No. 219967

>>219210
>>219211
I've not seen many pics of her sans makeup but she's even more beautiful in these pics than her well known dolled up pics imo

No. 219970

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peach fuzz is cute. as a hirsute woman with a hormone imbalance I wish I had facial hair this soft and light colored! peach fuzz like this also feels so soft and nice

No. 219972

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another old hollywood picture of a startlet with hairy arms! I saved this a while back, any anons who who she is? sorry for my ignorance lol

No. 219982

>>219972
She looks like Grace Kelly.

No. 219994

>>219972
Hairy arms on a lady are so spicy…just throw me against a wall, beautiful cavewoman

No. 220447

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Sometimes I grow these bizarrely long and thick eyebrow hairs. They tend to be a different shade than my normal eyebrows too. Instead of removing them I should use gel to spike them up like a cat kek

No. 222838

>>219197
Wholesome. Middle aged women are probably the most beautiful creatures on this planet.
>>219248
I'm 28 and don't wear makeup. Most of the time I'm confidant and happy being all natural but I wish I could wear cute eyeliner like a normal adult woman.

No. 223534

I don't wear make up, I don't shave, I don't wear deodorant and I don't wear a bra. I do wear some eau de toilette and mascara if I am going out to a restaurant, though. Although I'm blonde, I think I have some sort of hormonal imbalance that causes my bodily hair to be much more pronounced. I do pluck my little mustache because I don't like the illusion of jowls it creates on my face, if that makes sense, haha. It is very liberating to not wear deodorant nor shave. I know some anons might find it dirty, but it doesn't matter to me. Deodorant is toxic and I believe in embracing b.o. Especially if one eats a healthy diet like I do, b.o. is not necessary foul. In the same way I hope to contribute to shifting expectations of women, or people in general, by not shaving nor wearing make up, I hope to contribute to people understanding the purpose of b.o. on a healthy person. We need to let our bodies breathe and relearn what was always meant to be attractive to humans: natural faces, hair, textured skin, good fat on women, and body odour. In a similar fashion, I hope to heal my hirsutism. I don't believe body hair is bad and won't start shaving again, but I do believe that hormonal imbalances need to be addressed and healed from to live a healthy, functional life. If my hirsutism is a byproduct of unhealthiness, that shouldn't be encouraged.

No. 223535

>>223534
Supremely Based.

No. 223536

>>217917
Women need fat, but unfortunately we don't get enough healthy fats due to the diets that are most popular. A lot of them cause bloating due to emphasising plant-based foods which are difficult to digest for humans and not a good source of fat, whereas animal-based foods are discouraged, despite providing the most digestible sources of fat that women need. As such, I do think the pouch that a lot of "healthy" women also seem to have, isn't actually healthy at all. Gut issues are far too common but they shouldn't be. I obviously can't speak for every woman and everybody has a different situation that explains why they look the way they do, but this is a common situation. In addition, a lot of women have very poor posture, either due to a simple sedentary lifestyle, wearing heals, trying to push their butt out for more curves, everything combined or something else. Picrel is an example of a woman fixing her posture. The source of the picture is Flobility. The woman didn't lose any weight, her fat was simply distributed more efficiently since her body could carry it better. Subsequently, I think women's bodies would look differently if they were treated right in terms of utility. Overall, there are a lot of factors that contribute to why a body looks the way it does that might not seem obvious. You don't have to agree with me and I don't want to derail the thread, so feel free to be skeptical and research what I said for yourself. But I think it is valuable to acknowledge that modern beauty standards are unrealistic whilst realising natural bodies resulting from these standards are unhealthy themselves. A certain lifestyle is advertised with overly edited, groomed and posed models so you will think you're the problem for not looking the same way, and the only two options are to constantly attempt imitation of that model by following her lifestyle, or to accept you're just "different" and "natural", shifting the goal but not the means, as opposed to realising that maybe that lifestyle isn't healthy at all, since it can barely be represented by someone real. I think the body positivity movement that has gained a lot of traction over the years contributes to this. It's an unfortunately thin line and comparable to how women's sexual liberation was hijacked, leading to women thinking sluttiness/prostitution is empowering. Anyway, I'm going completely off topic, but it'll make sense.

No. 223537

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>>223536
I was so caught up in my sperging, I dropped the pic. This actually wasn't the picture I was thinking of, but the caption that goes along with it is very interesting and offers a different perspective for a lot of people, I think. It addresses what I touched upon briefly, and the account alongside the supporting resources can offer more information if anyone is curious. https://www.instagram.com/p/CWTZrbupP9l/?utm_medium=copy_link

No. 223542

>>223536
the pouch is from not working your core and obliques and having extra bodyfat, I hated my pouch for years and was leaning towards unhealthy skinny and still had it, but when I started resistance training and light weight training focused on my torso I lost it. It comes back if I skip working out for a week or two, if a woman is higher bodyfat I can imagine it being more stubborn to get rid of too.I disagree with a plant based diet causing it, the plant bloat that a low body fat woman who works out gets is solid and not fleshy like typical pooch, though I agree the fear of eating fats is strange, the most important thing to avoid is too many refined sugars and saturated fats and eating too much in general, food should be quality over quantity so you hit your dietary requirements without excess calories and preferably intermittent fasting.

No. 223543

>>223542
True, there are different kinds of pouches and bellies. The link I posted in the response essentially addresses activating one's core, and more, so I can definitely see there being truth to what you shared.

No. 223544

>>223543
Do you know any youtubers who do these spine focused mobility routines???

No. 223545

>>223544
I'm sorry, I personally don't. I share subscriptions with friends and family who do the same routines to lower cost but increase usage. But I do know Flobility has some videos on YouTube, just not everything. Foundation training has a similar approach to Flobility and I believe they have some free resources too. Sorry, I'm not trying to gatekeep whatsoever.

No. 223546

>>223545
Oh that's alright. If I like the free stuff then I'll invest money into a subscription program.

No. 223550

>>219970
I agree! I have peach fuzz on my cheeks - it isn't vissible and very delicate in touch so i look really soft becouse of it and get compliments for how soft it feels actually. I never understood when people commented on how soft my skin looked and then shaved theirs becouse of an istagram trend



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