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No. 408697

Explain why you‘re against plastic surgery, discuss its influence on women and society as a whole, share stories of botched plastic surgery, expose evil plastic surgeons etc. etc.

No. 408698

I had a rhinoplasty as a teenager but looking back at it with my now fully developed brain I cringe at younger me. What on earth was I thinking letting some rando cut open my perfectly healthy nose just to get some validation. The nose job recovery process made me suicidal for a while btw. Still didn’t stop me from planning on getting a second nose job because I thought the change was too subtle and natural (as if that‘s a bad thing kek). I was truly retarded. Luckily I didn’t have enough money for a 2nd surgery. Tbh back then I didn’t even know what a beautiful woman looked like. I genuinely was too autistic to have a proper understanding of beauty so I just tried imitating women who were praised online. I wasn’t even able to judge whether I found them pretty or not, all I knew was that other people were hyping them up. That was enough for me. Now I’ve seen the light and realized that all these influencers I thought I should look like actually look absolutely hideous.

No. 408717

I underwent two rhinoplasties despite my nose being fine initially. It was perfectly straight without any hump. My only concern was the size of my nose tip, which I communicated clearly to both doctors. Both times they did jack shit to my tip and just shaved down the length even though I never had a dorsal hump to begin with. The second guy could only do so much I guess because the first one shaped my entire nose in a very bizarre way that made it look like it was pointing downwards. I actually think the size of my nose tip is bigger and now it's triangle shaped. So I still hate my nose and wasted a bunch of money. Now I have an obvious plastic surgery Barbie nose (from the side at least) with scarring on my septum years later. Oh, and there's no way to get compensation if they alter your body in a way you didn't request unless they completely fuck it up to the point of medical complications.
It was severely traumatizing to have such a severe insecurity that I spent my entire savings trying to fix it, only for it to become worse. Unless someone has experienced it, they won't understand the level of distress it caused me, which eventually led to a stay in the psychiatric ward. To make matters worse, it's such an obscure issue that most therapists and counselors don't even know where to begin addressing it. It's actually distressing me just to recount the experience now.

No. 408720

Plastic surgery is not only dangerous but also so, so unhealthy

No. 408723

>>408717
I‘m sorry, nonna. You‘re not alone. I used to be in a bunch of facebook/whatsapp groups about rhinoplasty and many people have been suffering from depression and mental illness due to their botched nose jobs. The problem is that most don’t even want to stop. Some people in these groups are seeking out their 5th, 6th, 7th revision rhinoplasty. So I am very proud that you managed to stop at the 2nd one before spiraling into a full blown addiction like many other poor women have. And I know exactly what you mean. Rhinoplasty surgeons usually suck at handling the front view. Most only care about the side profile and completely ignore the front which is so retarded because literally nobody looks at you from the side when interacting with you anyway.

No. 408724

Rhinoplasty seems like such an invasive procedure. It's crazy how popular it is.

No. 408729

>>408724
It never makes people look better anyway. People are most insecure about their noses but they don’t realise that it’s usually other parts of your face that affect how attractive you look. Hence why no one ever goes from like a 4 to an 7 from a rhinoplasty unless they’re in like the bottom 5% of noses. Plus, interesting noses are usually attractive to most people, especially over a weird Barbie nose.

No. 408732

>>408729
I'm so happy I went to a plastic surgeon that does facial proportion analysis and told me that I did not need a nose job because it would make me look like a pig. I had consulted with a turkish surgeon before that shooped my nose into a tiny barbie one that would have made me look insane.

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>>408724
Rhinoplasty is insane because it affects every bit of your facial harmony. A woman will get her nose shortened because she thinks it’s too long. But due to the shortening procedure the space between her nose tip and upper lip will be too big. So she’ll get a lip lift to make up for it. But then her smile will look weird due to the lip lift so she needs to get veneers blah blah. Once you start messing with your face it can easily end in a never ending cycle.

That’s literally what happened with this plastic surgery YouTuber called Lorry Hill. Her nose tip even started rotting at some point. And yet she doesn’t see anything wrong with her addiction and keeps promoting plastic surgery "as long as you pick a good surgeon blah blah“

No. 408749

>>408732
Idk if it applies to your situation, nonna because I obviously don’t know where you live but the general rule of thumb is: western countries tend to have a more conservative approach to rhinoplasty whereas middle eastern countries=voldemort

No. 408773

>>408720
Breast implants always scared me since I saw when I was way younger a recording, I think from 90s or maybe very early 00s, of a TV program where a woman whose silicone implants leaked and she was left with an autoimmune disease and silicone started to move around her body. Saline implants aren't better but silicone ones are just vile and they still didn't got removed from use. I doubt that newer implants don't have leak issues. Another horror story I remember it was a young girl, just out of the high school, who died during breast enlargement surgery. It was even posted in one threads here on lc.
Plastic surgery makes sense in few aspects, like correcting a crooked nose if it will make you breathe easier or breast reductions if breasts are so big that they significantly strain the spine. Anything else is just a scam and perpetuates unrealistic beauty standards and pornification of female body.

No. 408823

My parents bullied me into getting plastic surgery when I was barely an adult and I truly think it was the tipping point of me going from a regular abused kid still not knowing shit was fucked up to speedrunning the process of realizing how fucked up all that they did to me was. The procedure itself didn't have any complications but even then, the immediate day after, I regretted giving into my retarded parents' demands and regretted my retarded self going along with it to try to gain their approval back. I wanted to smash my face in with a hammer as self-punishment and to show them what the fuck they did to me. I asked them if they'd do it to me again if the beauty standards ever changed and they only replied that my other feature already aligned with the standard.

I'm still okay with shit like reconstructive surgery for burn victims and breast cancer patients, but all other plastic surgeons can die in a fucking fire. They're all butchers carving women up and classifying them as a collection of different cuts of meat to whittle and shave off. The sheer unfeeling hatred you have to have to see people as walking meat puzzles day in and day out is insane. Convince these girls to hate themselves and if you get them while they're young it'll take years or decades or even entire lifetimes before they learn any better. To a plastic surgeon, all customers are fucking cash cows that are so pathetically grateful to be cut up. Who the fuck does that? What does it say about a person who does that? Take a knife and wound them so severely they need weeks if not months to recover and get paid for it. It's okay because cutting into them will probably maybe make them prettier. Licensed psychopaths are all they are.

For a while I just shut down and tried to go no contact because my parents truly didn't understand why emotionally terrorizing me for months was wrong. They called the cops on me half a dozen times for wellness checks and it made me terrified of the sound of knocking for almost a year, even if it was just a stock sound used in videos. I wanted to run away to die somewhere nameless and unknown so that no one could ever find my body and they'd have to bury an empty coffin. I didn't know how to let go of what they did to me and all it revealed about how they really saw and felt about me. I still haven't let it go but half a decade later I'm somewhat better and am able to feel and acknowledge that while they will forever refuse to hold that weight with me, I can now put it down temporarily because now I'm not scared that I'll forget what happened, think I'm crazy for being upset at them, or believe their lies about what "actually" happened. I can put it down now but it still hurts and it still impacts our relationship and I'm not sure what the future will look like for us. I haven't called my mom in two months now and it's really really nice not getting screamed at by my call-hijacking dad while she just sits passively by. They really overplayed their hand 5 years ago and they're paying for it, it's almost funny. I just wish they didn't choose over and over to nuke my young adulthood with it. They probably could've milked another decade or so of confusion, fear, and suffering from me if they hadn't. But then again, I might've been older and wiser enough to not surrender my common sense.

No. 408835

>>408773
I also don't like how expensive implants are and that you have to replace them every x amount of years

No. 408888

I'm an uggo so I admit support plastic surgery if it helps fix major deformities or helps people feel a bit better, but even I know it can go too far. When I was going through extreme plastic surgery research mode trying to plan for a procedure, I found so many awful things, especially in the Korean plastic surgery groups. There was another thread about this on /ot/ that never took off, but I hope that this one does, especially if it exposes the predatory narcissistic surgeons that run the industry. There are so many scamming plastic surgeons who use their social media presence to manipulate women

No. 408922

it feels gross to me that cosmetic plastic surgeries even exist, it just grosses me out full stop. i think it makes people ugly and the surgeons just keep trying to make their patients uglier and more unsatisfied so they will keep coming back and spending money needlessly

>>408745
i like lorry hill's videos because she seems knowledgeable about plastic surgery and it's interesting to watch, but her face looks uncanny and like she can hardly move it.

No. 408931

>>408922
I don’t get how people can treat it as normal. If someone I knew suddenly came back with a different face I would feel horrified…

No. 409939

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my nose is kinda botched(uneven and ugly but not skinny so it could be worse) and the surgeon moid literally told me "nobody will notice unless they are fucking you"

No. 409952

>>408888
Nona please can you post some examples of the scandalous things you found out about surgery in Korea? I know about ghost doctors and cases with patients being left to bleed out litres of blood etc but I’m still worried.

No. 409977

I've had a hyperfixation on having plastic surgery for all of my life. I just want to be perfect and have control over the way people perceive me. I've even posted on this site saying i would get plastic surgery and defending it. I just feel like i am so ugly, that it's the only way i can feel happy about my appearance. Honestly, it is true. But despite this, the thing stopping me from pulling up at a plastic surgery clinic is the fact that it is made by men to exploit the insecurities of women. A lot of plastic surgeons are incredibly misogynistic and nasty crooks and they don't really care about how you view yourself, they will sculpt you in THEIR vision. I was watching a Patricia Bright video years ago where she went to spain for a tummy tuck after pregnancy to fix the separation of abdominal walls. The doctor completely disregarded what she wanted and gave her a bbl on top of the tummy tuck after she said she didn't want it, but she acted like she was fine with it and i don't see how she couldn't see that as a violation of trust since he completely went against her word. Nonetheless, my need for perfection still tears me apart inside, but i just don't want some random old scrote to be the one who profits off it.

No. 410007

>>409977
HUH? He did a bbl without her consent? How the fuck does that work? Did she go to some third world doctor for the yummy tuck or something?

No. 410036

>>408823
Wtf anon that's disgusting. I can't imagine the body dysmorphia that would give a little girl. If it's any consolation I'm NC with my parents and you get used to not getting screeched at and picked apart pretty quickly kek, I recommend it.

I'm not a burn victim but I had a really deformed nose from a car wreck as a child that my parents refused to fix because they didn't want to 'give their daughter a nose job' and 'I seem perfectly fine'. They were the exact opposite of this anon's parents >>408823 and used the exact same talking points I see from some people in /ot/ who seethe at the mention of plastic surgery and while I agree it's an exploitative industry I also still think it was a form of child abuse because I had been bullied so much on top of having breathing issues and they just thought I was just pretending to snore like an obese geriatric at 12 and was making everything up? It was horrible and ultimately so pointless.
I went through all that just so they'd prove a point, of course their lives were unaffected and they could pat themselves on the back for being so progressive and 'loving' their deformed goblin child while I couldn't breathe lying down.

I still hate that plastic surgeons and medspa clinics prey on insecure people with self-perception issues and churn out trout pouts/Barbie noses on patients that don't suit them, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't happy with my surgery results. I finally got to look normal.
I didn't go to Turkey or Korea though, it was a local private hospital and I'd saved every penny from my teenage McJobs to get my nose fixed because it was expensive as fuck since it was essentially reconstructive surgery and took 9 hours. I still get mad when people refer to it as a 'nose job'.

No. 410756

>>410007
Nope, it was in spain of all places. He did it because he had already sucked fat out of her stomach and believed she would look good if it was placed in her ass.

No. 410916

I had my ears sewn to my head when i was 7. It was free for kids up to 8 i think, so my parents did that… worst experience of my life. I still remember the smell of the stitches and how they puled them out. My ears still have broken bits in them 20 years later and though they aren't as sesnsitive as they were, they are very fragile. Now i have a brand new niece who has bat ears too and it seems like they just gonna leave it be. Good for her. I sometimes wish they just left it be with me too. My parents thougt i'll be bullied for my ears so they fixed them. I was extremly insecure about my ears anyway until i was like 20, so it wouldn't make any difference if they just left it.
This insane pain i went through is why i can never understand why abybody would have any surgery willingly. I had the inside of my nose done some years back because i couldn't breathe with my nose at all and that was equal hell and the doctor was like: Oh and we don't do rhinoplasy, so don't even think about it" And i was like "wasn't gonna???"

No. 410944

This will probably trigger someone but here goes. I find it difficult to not have a superiority complex around many things these days, but especially this topic. Why the hell are so many average people into cosmetic surgery and why has it become so normalised? Don't people realise the predatory nature inherent in the industry? Or is their self-hatred so deep they don't care? And to that, I think 'we all know celeb culture and social media is the main driving force behind developing modern body dysmorphia, so just get out of those spaces'. Maybe I'm being too logistically-minded by simplifying it like this, but I genuinely do not understand why your average-ass normie cares SO MUCH about how they look enough to have unnecessary surgery. If someone is being a cunt about how you look, just cut them off. It's a matter of taking agency over what you allow to brainwash you. And I say that as someone who was abused as a child so I know it's possible to re-teach yourself that you are fine just as you are. Nonnies, am I being too harsh?

No. 410950

>>410944
Not at all, in fact you're being kind. Women who get plastic surgery are engaging in anti-social warfare against us. They're making normal features something socially unacceptable and actively making our lives worse. The bitches with blowjob lips are the reason so many girls are now insecure. Theyre sex traitors and dumbasses

No. 410997

>>410916
>This insane pain i went through is why i can never understand why abybody would have any surgery willingly.
I had a similar experience. I got a very minor surgery correcting asymmetry in my eyelid. It was so minor that I didn't imagine the pain and swelling afterward to be as bad as it ended up being. I used to want a nosejob but the experience from that much more minor surgery scared me damn straight to never want any cosmetic surgery ever again.
The human body really isn't something to play with. A surgery is putting your life on the line at worst and putting your body through a lot of stress at best.

No. 414794

Just came across this video. Im actually not anti plastic surgery, but jesuuuuus. A face like melted clay.

No. 414817

Breast implants are so weird, putting a man made object into your chest to try to arouse men. The concept is just like those beetlrs that fuck bottles bc they think its the superior female. Completely bizarre.

No. 414821

>>414817
I agree. I dont even know any men who like fake boobs tbh.

No. 414822

>>414821
a lot of men are retarded and say they hate fake boobs while jacking off to women who have breast implants
my ex used to talk about how much he hated fake tits but he didnt realize his favorite titty streamer chick had silicone ones, he thought they were natty

No. 414825

>>414794
apparently this is a tranny so idgaf

No. 414830

>>414821
>Idk any men who like fake boobs
KEK stop being so naive nona

No. 414839

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I don’t like when plastic surgery changes your ethnicity. Here’s turkish film icon Filiz Akın. She used to look like a normal Turkish girl but they made her get plastic surgery to like a Swedish troon kek. My parents always watched old Turkish movies with me as a child and I remember baby me feeling so confused at the sight of her. Even then I could tell something was very off with her face.

No. 414845

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>>414839
i will forever and ever mourn the loss of kim k's absolutely gorgeous armenian features. she had it all

No. 414863

>>414845
why she would want to change that is beyond me, beautiful people always downgrade when they get ps.

No. 414867

>>414839
what the fuck, that looks like a completely different person

No. 414878

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>>414867
Kek nonny I have so many more examples of Turkish actresses removing all of their Turkish features, you wouldn’t believe it.

No. 414880

Surgeons are people who basically think they're Michelangelo the sculptor not the Ninja Turtle, and are using people as rock blocks.

No. 414881

>>414839
>>414845
>>414878
Holy self-hatred, Batman.

No. 414885

>>414881
>self hatred
that's how you get jobs in acting.

No. 414886

>>414885
Sophia Loren talked about how her management wanted her to get plastic surgery. I think it was a nose job? But she refused. Obviously she ended up getting plenty of roles regardless

No. 414887

>>414886
Not the gotcha you think it is. If the men demand pork, the media will supply it. One woman (Sophia fucking Loren) saving her nose doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Plus she's white, not a brown woman trying to make it in an industry that demands white features.

No. 414889

>>414887
I didn’t think it was a "gotcha" but okay. Not everyone is looking for a fight, relax. You implied getting plastic surgery is not done out of self hatred if it’s for your acting career. The point I was trying to make is: in my opinion a woman who is fully accepting of herself wouldn’t get plastic surgery no matter the circumstances. You have to have at least some type of self hatred in you to get plastic surgery, even if it’s for your job.

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>>414878
>>414839
Let me post some more terrifying Turkish actress Frankenstein transformations real quick because I’m in the mood kek

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No. 415515

>>414821
A lot of fake boobs nowadays look very convincing, you don't really see those hard bolt on tits as often anymore. The only valid reason i've heard for getting them are breast cancer patients who get mastectomies get them to replace their natural breasts. Idk if i could even see breast implants as worth it even in that situation because you are placing a foreign object in your body. Knowing scandals about breast implants being recalled, a scandal from years back where a french company were using INDUSTRIAL SILICONE instead of medical grade silicone to make cheap implants. Plus, if you don't change them out every 10 years, they will calcify. I fail to see the benefits other than you can wear outfits that require you to have ample bosom, but why not just wear clothes that were designed for your original body shape? I find body plastic surgery that isn't skin removal from major weight loss to be largely pointless and honestly quite horrifying. Especially bbls due to a lot of surgeons refusing to do them specifically because of the risks, yet women are still risking their lives to use it as a way to bypass going to the gym. Seeing bbls irl make me so sad, especially since so many men don't even like them and more than enough men like skinny women, so what was the point? Now they can only shop at fashionova for the rest of their lives and wear clothes with 4 way stretch and can never look classy.

No. 415701

>>415515
i still think bolt-ons are the most common outcome. i've noticed when people claim that someone had a breast enhancement and it's "undetectable," the breasts are still too firm, overly round, and too wide-set. they're just smaller in size. plus imagine your nip getting completely screwed up like shayna's, and as you mentioned the health risks from having large foreign objects implanted into your breast area. it's the most unsettling plastic surgery to me that doesn't involve the eyes or extreme body modification.

No. 416239

Plastic surgeons who aren't primarily specializing in reconstructive surgeries are psychopaths. No sane person would willingly work with cutting up healthy people, and primarily women at that.

No. 416241

>>415515
Personally I can instantly tell whether boobs are fake or real

No. 416289

>>408697
Can someone explain plastic surgery hate to me? Preferably someone who isn't convinced that all plastic surgery is bad and that 'you can always tell'.

Assuming it goes well, is done safely, the person isn't an addict, and they have the free money to spend… why do some people hate it so much?

To me, it seems like it's rooted in people thinking it's 'unfair'. But am I wrong to think that's the reasoning?

No. 416293

>>416289
I can only speak for myself and the philosophy i live by. A person should tresure their body, it's an amazing gift. Not everybody is healthy and some people have to go through surgery, which is a horrible thing to go through but for saving lives or making their live better in a physical way.. it's worth it. People who have plastic surgeries like boobjobs, nosejobs… are usually physically helathy people (not talking about necessary fixing of somebody's nose so they can breathe ect.). They don't need it physically, they just need it because it makes them feel better - psychological or social reasons. Those reasons aren't valid for me to have a surgery because there's way more people who need a doctor to work on them right now all over the world who have to wait years to even get an appointment. These surgeons could use their skill elsewhere where it physically helps, that's one thing. Another thing is people absolutely can make peace with their bodyparts, the vast majority of humanity already did that silently and there are plenty of resources for people to work on their mental health with a therapist or on their own to get into a space where they realize they shouldn't hurt their healthy bodies just because something looks a bit off.
I've been through a plastic surgery when i was a kid, i wrote that some time ago, and i absolutely understand the reasoning of my parents behind it, but as an adult i made peace with my body and would have if i haven't had the surgery just the same. I also have some other visible problems that you just can't fix and so i had to make peace - therefore i know it's possible even for lost causes who hated their bodies all their life. The psychological fix is much more powerful and gives you way more than a surgery ever can. That's why i don't think it's a smart solution.

No. 416329

>>416289
>Assuming it goes well, is done safely, the person isn't an addict, and they have the free money to spend…(who) why do some people hate it so much?
You can’t just isolate it all to one very specific rare scenario.

No. 416337

>>416293
Thank you for sharing. I appreciate it.

>>416329
This is my experience fwiw. But I've still had people be very hostile (I was open about getting it).

No. 416600

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I haven't seen any case where fillers looked good irl.

No. 416601

>>416600
For reference this woman is only 33 in this pic.

No. 416673

>>416601
Wtf no way

No. 416689

>>416600
>>416601
>>416673
Russia has a very specific lip filler technique that ends up looking very overblown most of the time. I can't remember the name of it but I hate the way it looks

No. 416694

>>416289
Cutting up a perfectly healthy body to fit the current trend is psychotic

No. 416809

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>>416689
russia and the post-soviet space in general has a very recognizable and specific "face" that all their plastic surgery looks like. This is probably psychotic of me but I collect instagram pics of botched/ugly russian plastic surgery, IDK why. I feel like it's more common on non-slavic girls / ethnic minorities within russia too, it's really sad and self-hating. Especially when they talk about being proud of their nation and history but are culturally obsessed with russia and cut their entire faces up to look slavic. picrel

No. 416811

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>>416809
This girl literally just turned 18 and has had these procedures for awhile. These surgeons are legit predators.

No. 417085

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most nightmare lip fillers I've seen in awhile (she's supposedly 21 years old)

No. 417088

>>417085
Shit like this seriously goes against the hippocratic oatch

No. 417142

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Non-surgical rhinoplasty is so ugly, people really get filler in their nose to hide a little bump or downturned nasal tip but in the end it only makes their nose look bigger, also it makes the eyebrow area look masculine

No. 417144

>>417142
this looks so stupid, she looks like she's missing a chromosome or two

No. 417148

>>416289
We live in a society

No. 417176

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>>417142
These are making me sad.

No. 417177

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>>417142
>>417176
I swear these photos made me appreciate my nose shape even more.

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No. 417188

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>>417186
I would kms

No. 417190

>>416689
So true, nona. I used to follow this Ukrainian adventure/urbex vlogger who was so cute and alt, but now she has monstrous lip fillers and looks like a standard issue post-Soviet blowup doll T-T
Pic is before, vid is after(emoji)

No. 417194

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>>417190
I’m dumb, tried to post both in one. Here is pic.

No. 417197

>>417190
you're a massive newfag but i love you so much for being a slav urbex enjoyer

No. 417370

>>417190
this is so sad holy shit. She was so lovely before. why the fuck is everyone into fillers. they look terrible every single time. i hate walking outside and seeing this shit every day

No. 427682

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oh god this is one of the worst nose jobs ive seen
the silicone implant rejected and started growing through her nose

No. 427683

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It was super awful before and she got it 'fixed' but still asymmetrical after spending 10,000 dollars on a revision. Yikes.

No. 427687

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SZA's plastic surgery is so weird to me. She was already naturally pretty and her surgeries offset her face

No. 427688

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>>427687
Her freckles and moles were so cute

No. 427692

>>427683
>>427688
why does it feel like a lot of plastic surgeons are racist against black patients and dont seem to put as much effort into making them look good as their white and asian patients? black women have the same flesh and skin as any other race of women, and their facial structure isnt too different from southeast asians, so why do SEA, white and NE asian patients seem to get a more consistently better outcome compared to black women? i think racism in plastic surgery needs to be explored. 30 years later and theyre still giving every black woman a MJ nose.

No. 427696

>>427688
She just needs that horrific joker-esque chin implant removed and it would improve her looks by 300%

No. 427866

>>427692
Genuinely think it is racism, I’m not black either and I can see it plainly that you’re right. It’s because they likely don’t care enough/feel the need to learn how to resize a black nose or how to shape it into a more attractive traditionally black shaped nose like how white people can just go for the ski slope/button or whatever.

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>>427692
Medical care for women has always been sub-par, now add black+woman to that mix and it means BW are probably always going to get the worst standard of care of any patients.

Anyway. It's scary looking at CT scans of people's skulls after plastic surgery. Right does look undeniably more feminine but it's still so strange and uncanny to just file off huge sections of the jawbone like that.

Wouldnt shaving and thinning the jawbone also make it much more susceptible to breaking in the future too? And what about when you're older and develop osteoporosis as many older women do, will your already weakened, thinned out jawbone just break any time light pressure is applied? Freaky.

No. 427983

>>427692
Because plastic surgeons are what, 90% male? they're sociopaths and misogynists who cut up women for profit to meet male created beauty standards. The fact they don't even bother with "undesirables" shouldn't come as a surprise at all. Women who enable plastic surgeons should be shunned.

No. 427986

Can someone help convince me not to get plastic surgery? I really wanted this surgery as a teenager and was determined to get it, but then I had a radfem awakening at 17 and disavowed the industry. It's been almost a decade and I've even written about how fucked up plastic surgery is, but out of nowhere, I've become cripplingly depressed about this feature again and am considering plastic surgery despite everything.
I've had a few incidents within the last couple of years where strangers have mocked me for my facial appearance in public and I just wish people wouldn't look at me that way anymore. I don't even care about dating, I knew many years ago it would never happen for me and I'm a loner by nature, but I just don't want the first thing people think about me when they see my face to be "eeesh, what an unfortunate woman" anymore. I just can't take being subject to everyone's pity at best and derision at the worst. But despite this, I still feel like plastic surgery is wrong. What do I do?

No. 427987

>>427692
I think another part of it is because there isn't a lot of black plastic surgeons, and the ones that exist primarily focus on body stuff like lipo or bbls. One thing i have noticed is a huge surge in Nigerian doctors, i always wondered if Nigeria or Atlanta, random but it makes sense, would end up producing more plastic surgeons that cater more for black patients. Not exactly an amazing thing since a lot of black women already have a lot of body dysmorphia from the insane beauty standards that are so far removed from anything that is natural.

No. 427988

>>427986
Sorry to same fag, but your story is exactly like mine. I was obsessed with getting plastic surgery when i was a teenager and wanted to save up for it once i got a job because i hated my face and was also bullied for being ugly, but also i fell down the radfem rabbit hole and now i am forever stuck at war with myself. Not helping at all, but i'd love to know the solution too.

No. 427989

>>427986
>>427988
A few things that snap me out of it
>plastic surgery is cringe normie follower sheep shit
>ugly women aren't inherently worse than pretty women. there is nothing wrong with being ugly and there are plenty of successful happy ugly women. the kind of person who thinks beauty = morality isn't worth considering.
>by getting plastic surgery, you are directly funding men who mutilate women, and continuing the narrative that your features are so horrible that women who have them should pay to have them butchered off.
>looks genuinely do not matter that much unless you are bottom 1% horribly objectively deformed. being ugly and even being laughed at sometimes isn't that bad, like will it kill you? Will not being the prettiest princess to ever live kill you?

No. 427990

>>427989
>Will not being the prettiest princess to ever live kill you?
I'm not asking for that, I don't appreciate the tone. I just want to look normal. I want to be unremarkable. I don't want to be a grown woman dressed in nice work clothes but still getting mocked by people when I'm out running errands after work.
I agree with all your other points, but my desire to look unremarkable is so strong at this point that it's threatening to overturn my morals.

No. 427994

>>427989
The thing is, i feel like my hatred for my appearance stems strictly from being angry about my lack of self control over how people perceive me and my self image. It's sounds vain as fuck, but i'd be happy for people to think i am not remarkable as long i feel like i personally have reached perfection and i feel like i can mold myself into my perfect image. I already think a lot of the things you are written, but it doesn't prevent me from feeling like a failure for not trying my best to as perfect as possible so i can feel comfortable in my own skin. I also can't help obsessing over experiences and opportunities that will forever be out of my reach because of my looks, i also do not believe i have anything to offer as a human being because i have a spergy personality that nobody appreciates and i am not intelligent either, so trying to be pretty would be the only way i can add value to myself. I don't want to believe this about myself, but i can't stop running into situations that activate these thoughts in my head.

No. 427998

>>427994

By any standards I would bring to bear on an Albanian origami swan-folding forum, you’re articulate and intelligent and self-aware. Maybe trust this desire but research exhaustively first?

No. 428043

>>427994
>i have a spergy personality that nobody appreciates and i am not intelligent either
Nona. You can work on both of these things. You can study anything and become more knowledgeable, and you can take social skills or even acting classes that force you to project a more stable image. Both of these things are of far higher value and will last your whole life—everyone is unremarkable after 60. You have your entire life. Assuming you're in your 20s, you could pick up an instrument for example and become quite skilled by your 30s. Or you could learn a new language if you really focused in just a couple years. Intelligence is relative and can be worked on by stimulating your mind, similar to exercise, because you'll keep forming mental pathways and making them stronger.

No. 428069

>>427983
>Because plastic surgeons are what, 90% male? they're sociopaths and misogynists who cut up women for profit to meet male created beauty standards. The fact they don't even bother with "undesirables" shouldn't come as a surprise at all. Women who enable plastic surgeons should be shunned.

This.

No. 428070

>>427990
>>427994
Controversial but I think when it gets to the point you have more than 2 (at max) features that are ugly or need 'fixed', you should just accept that you're probably going to be ugly forever. Some people just have bad genes or are naturally unattractive and just have generally unharmonious faces, and no amount of plastic surgery can really cure it. Stuff like an ugly or crooked nose or an underbite is pretty easy fo fix, but if you have more than 2 features then it's more likely that any surgery you get isn't going to cure that but just end up making you look weirder and bogged. When you meddle with one feature you usually end up having to fix the other features to harmonize with it, which is why people who have had more than 1-2 plastic surgeries almost never look good.

I've only ever seen a tiny handful of cases where plastic surgery drastically improved someone's looks and its usually a celebrity who got a very minor nose job or something, or a famous before and after picture from google. Those instagram girls you see who have had multiple procedures look absolutely monstrous and bogged irl when they arent using filters.

No. 431664

i often get tired of people saying someone "needs" some work done. slightly off-topic, i was in the heather thread and someone said she needs a bit of work and she could probably secure a boyfriend. heather looks so average and normal and it's her personality that should be worked on. i just can't understand the mindset at all. no one NEEDS work done. you can argue people with deformities do but that's it. because this nona is damn right:
>>427983

No. 433112

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Botox makes young women look older. On older women it looks "ok", but it is obvious and doesn't make them look young.

No. 433122

>>433112
And they all look like Fox News reporters. Lol. Lmao

No. 433128

>>433112
The botox, the smoothing filter, the fake tan and heavy makeup combo makes them look awful, the ones in their 20s look much older than they are

No. 433165

>>433112
>The little boy on her lap growing up learning its normal for women including mommy to chop themselves up to be pretty
bleak

No. 433188

>>433112
they all look so uncanny and none of their eyebrows move

No. 444575

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Not plastic surgery, but in the same wheelhouse. If you ever need to be deinfluenced from getting permanent makeup just scroll through r/MicrobladingRemoval

No. 444577

>>433112
I'm genuinely not saying this to be mean, but do they really think the rest of us are going to be shocked by their real ages?

No. 444583

>>433112
>paying all that money to look 40 when you could just wait to turn 40
The only ones who looks “good” were the ones in their 50s. The rest look fucking awful and I’m convinced some of them are lying about their ages.

No. 444586

my mother got botox for the first time, she's almost 60 and she got one shot in her forehead because she was fed up of how deep the creases were when she frowned. I didn't even notice until she told me. She was also shocked that I was horrified it was free (I thought she'd done it herself or got a friend to do so) but no - they give out a free taster of botox so of course women become addicted. I really hope she doesn't waste money on this.

No. 444601

>>444586
My mom also got Botox for the first time and she’s mid 50s. She got it in her forehead and it ended up causing her forehead to basically fall down. Her eyes were squinty because of it. Eventually it went away but I was considering it for myself for the first time (mid 30s). I look young but tired and considered it to try and make me look more “awake”. I noped the fuck out after that.

No. 444621

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I don't care if plastic surgery looks good in the end, the whole entire principle of wanting to look good for others and caring so much about what others think is a mindset that will kill you deep deep inside your soul whilst simultaneously boosting your ego tenfold.
It's the biggest red flag to ever walk the Earth.

No. 444691

>>444621
>already have bipolar manic depression
how much worse could plastic surgery make it though

No. 444729

>>444691
honestly, you'd be a much more vulnerable and exponentially better loop for surgeon quacks to exploit, novelty wears quick and that's how people become forever patients.
vidrel actually talented korean singer top-charter being told an estimate from her forever patient friend about how surgery piles up
(girl is adamantly against surgery and was given a nod to surgery by her agency but she's actually talented so they dropped it completely)

No. 444847

>>433112
I don't think it's the Botox making them look older, but rather, the dermal filler that's giving them major pillowface. I've noticed people tend to use the words Botox and filler interchangeably to mean the latter. Botox kind of freezes and diminishes wrinkles and wears off eventually, filler attempts to diminish wrinkles by adding volume. All that pillowface making their faces look heavier/rounder is dermal filler's fault, not Botox.

No. 445138

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>>433112
holy shit

No. 445327

>>444575
this is horrifying, I've always thought the permanent makeup trend was just as sus as cosmetic surgery. I don't understand why people do this shit. When I was younger, like some anons I was susceptible to the idea that I might want something done. All it takes for me is a couple botched after stories. Why risk it, knowing you have a chance of coming out looking worse??

No. 445328

>>445138
this one is only 23. this is sad



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