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No. 70150
>>70148Productivity wise, the no-sex condition is going to leave money on the table that you could otherwise easily get because you're wasting a lot of time getting a rich guy invested in you purely out of love.
I'm assuming that gold digging is not profitable compared to a equivalent amount of time spent camming, but I'll be watching this thread to see if that's really the case.
No. 70199
You have to find guys who are kinda desperate (but not too obvious) and that they seem to want a relationship, maybe this sounds redundant but the best tactic is just to make men feel like they are special and give them the hope that, not only you are going to have sex with them, but also some kind of emotional support. The idea is to make they THINK that they are having the best and unrepeatable opportunity. to make them think that you are disadvantaged because men like to have control of the situation and -if the guy is lonely- it's going to be easy to make them fall in that delusion.
One of the guys I milkied the most was some sort of lonely middle-aged guy who had a nice job and lived 4 hours from me, also was the first guy who I actually got profit from. I attracted him because I was into some gamer stuff at the moment. At first I didn't realized the potential and i even didn't lure him but he was so damaged by his last relationship that he was desperate by some affection by her "ideal waifu". At one point he was transferring me $100 dollars monthly just because. He also sent me a expensive figma from a anime I was watching at the moment.
For a brief period of time I enjoyed to date tinder guys to do what
>>70168 did. I had a soft spot for guys who had that "i'm better than everybody else" facade and i liked to fuck them emotionally but I think is because I'm lowkey misandric.
No. 70929
>>70926>>70178100% agree it's bait
If these girls were for real they wouldn't be sharing their spoil stories and basic "tricks" anyway, wtf
No. 74233
I got into financial domination over the past 6 months and it's the best. Way preferable over being a sugar baby, because you call the shots and sex is not on the table. I have two regular "servants" who've paid me thousands and idk how many gifts. I don't need to send pics or videos, I just talk to their lame asses in voice chat and call them names and they get off hard by giving me their money. My main guy gave me $600 this week and I'm just gonna go on a tropical vacation with it. I used to strip and now I make good money not even needing to leave my house ngl I love it.
>>70924 like she said, an easy way to find desperate lonely guys is in gaming. They aren't always loaded but so many of them are willing to pay for your attention.
No. 74411
>>74366I agree with
>>74397, most of the most successful findoms I've seen were ugly as sin. I'm sure you look better than most of them.
My question is another: is showing your face necessary? I'm ok with voice chat, but I don't want to show my face in any way because I don't want that stuff to bite be in the ass in the future
No. 74441
>>74347does your fiance know you do this stuff for money? honestly dont even bother if he doesnt know. get a real job, or just be straight up to him that you want to do online sex work. You literally want to do findom without sex or humiliation, that makes NO sense. that's like saying I want a sandwich without the bread and the filling.
>>74411no, showing face is not necessary, but it will hinder your chances of being successful and having regulars. There is a lot of competition out there. More than likely a guy will lose interest and move on to the next girl who shows more.
No. 181153
>>181149Just speak to them and they will fall to your charms. I'm 21 and my main target are the weirdo middle aged men who blow in with the wind. I speak to them, never quite sexually. Some will leave when they're bored. Others will become enthralled. There is no inbetween
I also yell at sub moids on voice calls in return for Amazon giftcard. €60 is pretty penny for just muting the TV and pretending to be angry on the couch in my jammies
No. 181214
>>181153Very interested in screaming at people. Where do you find those?
I'm 26 but could pass for early twenties (20+), would you recommend lowering my age?
My only problem is that I can be a bit awkward but I guess that would pass with experience.
Not sure about the friendly speaking with the middle aged men. That sounds pretty time consuming and I don't wanna boost their useless egos.
No. 312704
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Why not just marry a rich guy? There's plenty of rich men in California and New York who date out of their net worth. Pic related (son of a billionaire) married some Asian architect.
No. 338186
>>337984i think its pretty naive to think these women didnt have sex in order to secure such large amounts of money
they are probably lying to you or only saying a half-truth in order to save face
No. 338228
>>338029>Very comfortable in life with low-stress, low-salary jobPlease tell me your secrets. Good with money
and very comfortable with low salary = not wanting for much, yeah?
No. 338306
>>338186I'd be inclined to believe that if they weren't humble bragging and showing the receipts. And I don't disbelieve them since I've encountered women like that before.
It definitely depends on the dynamic of their relationship though. The latter group of women I'm referring to usually went for men who had low self-esteem, had attachment issues or were very insecure, so delaying intimacy wasn't hard. They played to their personalities.
The former are different though since they don't go for those 'low hanging fruit' but directly seek a challenge in men who are egotistical, confident and constantly surrounded by accomplished women. I'd say they're narcissistic but really they're just disenfranchised with the male species and would rather withhold from getting too emotionally invested than believe in the 'not all men rhetoric. They are very good manipulators and know how to persuade people well. One woman becomes a completely different person with every guy she dates and it works because she has a few vacation homes around the world thanks to her gold-digging.
I'm not naturally gifted with those advanced skillsets, so I'm happy to step aside and learn from those who do. I'd class myself as intermediate currently lol.
No. 338307
>>338303Rich men aren't a monolith dear. They're very different depending on their race, nationality, age, source of wealth, industry, etc. They're men at the end of the day and money doesn't absolve them of flaws and habits like everyone else. It'd be way too long to go into it, but Ginie Sayles is a good primer along with Kevin Doyle. They're very basic (at least by the standard of socialites and social climbers anyway). But once you're familiar with interacting with men from different backgrounds, you'll be able to pick up on the finer nuances.
Proximity is your greatest barrier. If you're not in the same spaces as them, it really doesn't matter what else you do because they won't know you exist. Of course, every circle has their own 'look' but that's not something you can generalize for all. Go where the rich go and then observe how they carry and dress themselves. Education is always an asset and the lack thereof can oftentimes be detrimental depending on whether or not this is something they value in their women.
Tumblr has a wealth of information you can tap into if you're serious but knowledge means nothing without application so put yourself out there and practice! Work on your conversation skills because it will be your strongest asset.
Networking is important too and women are usually the gatekeepers so befriend them via mutual 'upper class' hobbies like yoga, ballet, pilates, etc. and once you build enough rapport, getting access to the men they know will be easy so long as you're both compatible.
Online dating works too. A lot of the men on Raya are on Hinge and Tinder just as well. You can meet rich men anywhere. Just learn how to market yourself well and they'll be buzzing towards your honey pot in droves.
No. 338335
>>338212>>338227>>338286Not OP but I think a lot of women would sleep around more if it wasn’t for us getting the short stick in terms of childbirth and by society in general. If children were raised collectively, which I think is more natural, we wouldn’t have to depend on a man for everything, but alas here we are. There’s a theory we developed concealed ovulation for the purpose of misleading the «father», decreasing the risk of him killing the offspring.
Anyway I think this thread is kind of comical. Taking into account what the average lolcow user is like, it reads like a bunch of neets scheeming on how to move up from leeching off their parents to leeching off a man who’ll fund their vidya and internetshopping addicted lifestyle.
No. 338407
>>338341This is unironically one of the only based takes in this thread.
I remain reminding you all that gold digger “lifestyles” are a lie, stay in school and don’t let men near your money ever. Natural selection will have to weed out those of you who don’t listen to me kek.
No. 338428
>>338303>what do rich men want? Unless they're looking for someone to manipulate or use, they'll usually look for a woman that's from similar financial background. If he's a surgeon he'll want a surgeon, if he comes from a rich family he'll want a woman who also has a wealthy background. Sure some marry lower income women but in my experience all men that married poor women took advantage of them and abused them thinking the women wouldn't leave. I know several rich men(earns more than 100k-1million a month) who serial cheated on the broke women they married.
Unironically go and study, get a good career unless you want to be a broke woman with a broke bf or a broke woman who's selling her body to an ugly useless wealthy man. Doing weird makeup routines and lying about the men you've slept with won't automatically bring you a rich man.
>>338319This isn't the sex worker thread.
No. 338480
>>338476I understand where are you coming from, I don't endorse sugar baby lifestyle either, but it's stupid storming into this thread like that and shitting on all the anons ITT. You can't change their minds and whatever you say would be ignored, considering your quite frankly shitty attitude.
It's a shitty thing, but can you blame them? Not anyone can be a bossgirl and make their own bux, people try to survive in their own ways. You know, if it brings sugar babies money and they can survive with that sort of life, than good for them. Better that than being unemployed and homeless.
No. 338492
>>338476Just hide the thread.
>Inb4 REEE SHUT UP GOLDDIGGING WHOREI'm not, but if you're the anon I think you are, you bumped a 2 year old post and keep complaining itt, and ranted about the same topic in the things you hate thread. It just looks retarded and desperate for replies. But even if you're not that anon, you should still hide the thread because complaining about the thread you're in is still annoying (and against the rules).
No. 338538
>>338537Don't project your own self-image onto me sweetheart. Your insecurities and inability to relate to my lifestyle are not my problem and certainly not my concern.
I know trying to make other people just as miserable as you feel validates you, but going to therapy and sorting out your emotional baggage would be a better use of your time than frothing over an internet stranger. :P
(do not use emoji/ emoticons) No. 338680
>>338476Yeah i kind of agree, gold digging is kind of soft prostitution and funnily enough most gold diggers get used, taken advantage of or fucked over way harder than any normal woman who likes being spoiled and goes for a man with good education or good background instead of trying to sleep with an old rich fuctard hoping he gives them all his money.
These women are the female equivalent of male pickup artists and they're just as delusional. Just like how ugly male pickup artists think they can trick a very hot woman into liking them, these women with no education, culture etc, think they can easily bag a super rich guy by following some retarded advices from online scammers.
Women who teach how to golddig to other women are the female equivalent of Andrew tate, aka someone who's purposefully praying on unattractive and insecure people and promising them something they'll never ever have.
No. 338688
>>338645>bases her whole personality about how to appeal to men>accuses anon of wanting to be pickedYou'll never have a rich man by your side for too long if you have to try this hard just to have them show interest in you. If a man is attracted to a woman and interested in her, her behavior won't change his views and normal women don't have to try as hard as you losers do to attract men from better backgrounds. Rich men sure do use insecure and naive women like you but they won't settle for someone that's like you, someone from a way different culture and economic status.
Also are you really thinking that taking advice from online spaces that are filled with unemployed unattractive people chasing after rich men is a good idea? You'll get taken advantage of and the views you're spreading only make it easier for young(even underage) girls to try and get with a wealthy man that'll take advantage of them. No amount of gifts or economical compensation is going to make up for the emotional trauma you'd have if you actually succeeded in getting with one of the scummy men you're chasing.
(personally attacking an anon) No. 338729
>>338710You're so mad you can't even type right. Allowing men to purchase you for a smaller sum than they'd pay for a car or a house isn't the gotcha you think it is.
>>338700I think she means that these men will get you dependant on them and make you stay through abuse or do things you otherwise wouldn't.
No. 338813
>>338809>>338716Shera isn't even married to a rich man though. It took her 10 long years of being her husband's AP/sidechick before his wife divorced him and he finally married Shera.
Not to mention he's constantly cheating on her (and she on him) and they both hate each other's guts.
Ginie Sayles is a much better recommendation in comparison even if her material is a bit outdated.
I also suspect 716 to be a troll from the language they used. No aspirations, wants to contribute nothing (not even in the way of education or connections) to a potential relationship, feels entitled to a lifestyle never experienced and has a heavily romanticised view of what a 'luxury lifestyle entails reeks of fanfiction with a shot of fantasy.
(redditspacing) No. 338876
>>70148Like people have mentioned, you're leaving a lot on the table not doing the long con and giving the goods.
Though there are guys who are literally into findom and fetishize their own inadequacy .
I think the best way to do it is being an online domme targeting paypigs.
You don't even have to do shit or get naked even, just tell them they have tiny dicks or whatever in lingerie.
(newfag, integrate) No. 339116
>>338897Yeah they're obviously scammers. Do you think that woman looks rich at all? These gold digging advice channels prey on insecure unattractive women in bad economic situations and then lead to them getting abused by a man for a few dimes.
This thread is annoying to me because financial dependannce has always been the number one reason women haven't been able to leave
abusive relationships, I know so many such cases irl. To see some dumb women say they're based or whatever and advice much younger women to go and get taken advantage by men for money (aka do almost prostitution/grooming) is so disturbing.
No. 339117
>>339116I agree with you. Though I must add that earning an independent source of income and pursuing partners that are financially secure are not mutually exclusive. After all, one can do both.
I think the most important thing is to verify who you're getting your advice from, whether they themselves live up to it and how it is reflected in their own lives.
Talk is cheap. Actions and results say a lot more.
No. 339125
>>338645>the more you use a man for his money, the more attached he is to you and the better he treats you>because they know themselves are low value and views a woman who thinks she is his equal as low value like him.Getting treated well is the baseline and why do you only date men with low self esteem? I guess they are the kinds of men who would let themselves get milked.
I don't have a problem with gold digging, but these aren't objective truths that apply to normal relationships.
>Yeah Im so insecure and naive for thinking women shoukd be compensated for having to interact with menThe fact that you don't even enjoy it makes it even more sad. For your own sake, calculate how much money you earn per hour doing this. (gifts only count for their resale value minus effort spent finding a buyer)
Are you actually earning more than you would from a regular job? Don't forget, a regular job scales the older you get and gets you retirement.
No. 339207
>>339117Yeah I definitely agree. I'm only against this mindset because this sugaring community is usually old
abusive men or older female/gay male sexworkers advising young women/young gay men to be financially dependant on old men. This situation only makes it easier for the old men to use and abuse the young and in some cases underage women.
No. 339467
>>339125Do you really think men with self esteem are ok with a woman paying for evrything while they mooch and let her be mommy fuck slave?
Its telling everyone in this thread screeching that men shouldn't pay for anything have never interacted with a man in their life. Men spend money on women they value, it makes them feel good to provide for a woman.
No. 339482
>>339467Ah yes, the two options: sugar babe and mommy fuck slave
>everyone in this thread screeching that men shouldn't pay for anything Who said that?
Of course a man who loves you will want to give you gifts. But what does this have to do with gold digging/rinsing?
No. 339513
>>339488This thread is about gold-digging. I'm not sure where you saw anything about "marrying rich". You're also assuming all rich men are paragons of virtue who aren't flawed or make mistakes. Men are men first and foremost. They don't all want the same things and they all certainly aren't choosing wives based on how much money they have.
I can list scores of millionaires and billionaires who marry women "beneath" them on paper, have affairs with and then leave their wives for women who are again on paper "beneath" them.
Most folks marry those within their circles because of proximity. Not because they're specifically going out of their way to find partners that tick off a set of characteristics. People get married for all sorts of reasons and again, rich people aren't exempt from this either.
In some circles a trophy wife is the norm, in others a wife that is accomplished and educated is the norm and so on and so forth.
Most women aren't even thinking of millionaires when they talk about gold-digging but based on the COL in their city, may well be between 100K and 500K which isn't that big of a deal to warrant all these brigading posts (assuming this is their gross income).
This isn't an attack on you by the way Anon, so I do apologise if the tone of my writing comes across as aggressive or confrontational.
No. 372679
>>372666This insta reel feels like its own scam. The replies are not all real people, the account itself has 3 posts but 25k followers, I smell bot activity and a scammer fishing for something. Probably trying to get you to join the telegram for another reason.
The way it's like "rich by the time I finished highschool" or the comments saying they've been doing it since middle school are also suspicious. Why make a point to say it's easy for kids that age? I'm curious if it's a reverse scam to get underage marks to send selfmade cp (saw some comments saying pedos can't call the cops if you scam them but it's just as easy to scare kids into staying quiet by saying they'll get in trouble for making cp). I don't believe the ones saying they use doctored random OF photos.
No. 372726
>>372679I also think the reel/acc is fishing for money for sure, apparently you join the telegram and then buy his guide to learn how to scam. I noticed these kinds of things are happening more and more on ig/tiktok, people selling "guides" to get rich quick, not even just scamming but normal "financial advice."
So in a way that's another way to 'scam' people out of money.
But I also know there's no shortage of pedophiles and creeps online who will send over money to someone who is allegedly a minor.