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No. 115528

What are some shows and franchises that are hard to get into?
Shows that are 100+ episodes, with multiple volumes and 4 videogame sequels, etc.
Are you into any of those or wish you could be into them? Discuss

No. 115533

I kinda wanted to get into Gundam. All I’ve seen is the 08th MS Team and it was really good. Why it gotta have so many episodes, Gundamfags?

No. 115536

Fucking Fate I have no clue what order to go or anything.

No. 115540

If you want to get into the basic Fate/Stay Night storyline, the order I'd suggest watching it is
>Fate/Zero (takes place 10 yrs before F/SN)

>Fate/Stay Night (2006 anime by Studio Dean)
>Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works
>Fate/Stay Night: Heaven’s Feel (movie trilogy)

Imo it doesn't matter what order you watch the other parts after F/SN in, but I'm sure there are purists out there who have recommended "watch in this order" lists.
Also, stay far away from Prisma Illya unless you want to get flagged by Interpol. It sounds like a cute magical girl au but it's actually loli bait.

No. 115542

Western superhero comics. I have no interest anyway, but if it's the first thing that springs to mind. There's just so fucking much of it.

To a FAR lesser degree, Gorillaz
It's probably not hard if I cared to put in the effort, but the lore seems all over the place. I don't allow myself to listen to the music without knowing since I fear I won't get the full experience.

No. 115552

Thank you for the warning you the mvp anon. I can barely handle Kobyashi's dragon maid bs despite loving the family dynamic.

No. 115558

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>Warcraft lore
I've played a bit of WoW but actually following the shit that happens in quests, cinematics, new expansions etc is beyond me. I'm not familiar with Warcraft and the novels don't seem worth the time investment, but it would be nice to understand more of the storyline when I play.
>Doctor Who
Too long, too many different series/doctors, and I'm too unclear on the appeal. I just know I'll never bother no matter how often I see people recommend it
>Fantasy novels in general
Stuff like Dune, Wheel of Time, all those Brandon Sanderson novels. They're just massive books and I'm not even sure if fantasy is my thing, so I keep putting them off. I'm really keen to try though, I'd love to have such an endless amount of content to consume especially with upcoming adaptions.
>Jojo, One Piece, Gintama
Listing all 3 at once because it's the same situation for all of them - I've read a lot of the manga and watched a lot of the anime, but it was ages ago and forget tonnes of stuff. I did enjoy what I read but I can't be bothered keeping up with new parts or adaptions. It feels harder to try and get back into them than it was to start them.

What big franchises do anons actually recommend and find worth the time investment? For me it's
>Legend of the Galactic Heroes
110 episode OVA, another ~50 episode OVA, a new adaption and a bunch of movies, it's fucking massive but I loved every second of it. I never expected to find badly animated talking heads discussing space politics so fascinating. I can rewatch it multiple times and I'm still riveted.
>Hunter x Hunter
Two long ass anime series and a manga that will probably never be finished, but by far my favourite battle shounen and I just find it clever and unpredictable in comparison to other series. Even if we never get a conclusion I'm glad I spent so much time on it.
Actually I don't know if I recommend it, it's pretty shitty at parts and loads of people dislike it. But there are so many fun, hilarious episodes spread throughout 15 seasons that it's worth it for me and I'm thirsty af for Dean.

Damn this is a bit of an essay but I put a lot of thought into what media to invest my precious free time in.

No. 115559

fate has always looked like some overly convoluted mary sue chuuni fest to me, so I avoid it for that reason

No. 115564

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For me Supernatural ended season 5 where the original writers had intended it to end. Richings Death was the best thing, such a disgrace how they killed him off in 10.

No. 115569

Star Trek for me, I fucking loved The Original Series as a kid but I never watched any of the other series.

same, 08th MS Team slaps but the amount of Gundam media that exists is incredibly intimidating. Currently trying to chip my way through the early UC shows though and I'm enjoying myself.

Another one I plan on getting into, your glowing recc is definitely encouraging!

No. 115570

tbh I would stay away from any franchise that has a loli bait spin-off. I remember seeing a review of a figure from this pedo show and being disgusted. I wouldn't want to be into anything related to that.

No. 115573

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I've wanted to get into Warhammer 40000 for the longest time and I never really knew how to given how massive and overwhelming the franchise looks, then during the first lockdown I spent all my days reading pages on Lexicanum and 1d4chan. I now have a pretty good knowledge of the universe, enough to get most memes and to recognize some obscure characters, but I'm not sure if I want to get into playing the board game, the miniatures and codexes are such a money sink, and I'm too much of a dumbass to understand rules. There's also a shitton of books of varying quality, I'm sticking to the Horus Heresy novels for now.

No. 115574

Genshin Impact lore and questlines. They're such slogs and there's so much unnecessary dialogue and attempts at being profound that just fall flat. The character designs are cute and I like them for their VAs and expressions but storywise I wouldn't care if any one or all of them died. I don't even play quests anymore I'm just waiting for the next region to explore.

No. 115575


Fate Zero is the only thing worth watching from the fate series imo

No. 115576

Ot but the enduring relevance of Higurashi is so confusing to me. I remember watching it as a middle schooler and it was a weird old series then, can’t believe I’m im my 20’s now and kids are still talking abt it, it’s not good

Utena is so popular and supposed to be super deep but every time I try to watch it I can’t get more than a few episode In

No. 115580

I liked Utena for the music, chara design and relationship between the characters but I never got the deepness either. Ikuhara is a hack anyway, he thinks putting convoluted metaphors in his works is "deep".

No. 115581

the characters, relationships between them and the criticism of gender roles is enough to make Utena deep. Not 'deep' as in philosophy theory deep, but compared to most anime.

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A Certain Magical Index franchise
Every dude who watched it can’t stop telling me how great and “not like other battle shounen” it is. Apparently the female protagonists are good? I’m only mildly interested if I’m taking their words for it but there’s just so much of it.

No. 115583

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> What are some shows and franchises that are hard to get into?
One piece, bleach, naruto. Those shits are too long and just really not my type, I tried watching at least a few chapters of each and it was impossible to me. Same with JoJo, I love the character designs but I tried reading the manga a long time ago and I just wanted colorful guys fighting by homoerotically getting touched by their magical weird spiritual animals. It is quite interesting looking plotwise too, but it’s also already so long that I would need a few days to binge it properly.
The avengers’ comics too, they’re extremely long, my autistic ass needs to be in the zone for binge reading so I can really make some progress reading those, specially the older ones that has walls of texts in comparison to how they’re done nowadays.
Pokémon, it’s difficult to properly get into it, I tried, reading the manga and I noped after a while, it’s immensely huge, so I guess it would be better to just pick your favorite Pokémon protagonists and follow their story.

> What big franchises do anons actually recommend and find worth the time investment?

I think transformers is honestly fun, the characters are interesting even if the pacing gets a bit slow at times, I also like the whole world building aspect of it, technobabble is the best.
Ojamajo doremi, it’s fun and cute, it can touch a few hard subject even if it’s a kid’s show, the whole thing is so whimsical that it can really make one smile.
Sailor moon, the manga is amazing, I loved it, I feel like the story makes more sense in there and there are lots of really beautiful illustrations too.
Servamp, the manga is already around the 100 chapters but it seems that it won’t get extremely long, the vampires and some of the humans are quite interesting, the story is a tiny bit over the place but the whole setting is really interesting.

No. 115584

Hot take, all anime is fake deep. Deep as in a teenager's understanding of deep. Allegedly "deep" anime like Anohana, Your Lie, Death Note, even Monster, all a middle schooler's or a stunted adult's understanding of deep.

No. 115587

Anon, they are straight up lying to you. The only mildly interesting thing in the anime is Accelerator's storyline and he only appears around episode 22 or something, the other 80% of the time you have to follow your typical self insert semi-harem battle shonen protagonist and it's unbearable.
The series with Misaka as a protagonist (the main girl in that poster) is also boring as shit and uneventful.

No. 115588

>Allegedly "deep" anime like Anohana, Your Lie

Do people even consider these deep?? All I've seen people praise them for is for being emotional.

No. 115590

>a middle schooler's or a stunted adult's understanding of deep
It's funny cause some "deep" anime that gets recommended is literally made for teens. Death Note is shounen but some people think it's for an older audience just because it's edgy.

No. 115591

I’ve never seen those anime called deep just sad or in DN’a case edgy/dark

No. 115594

Read the Higurashi VN. It'a not hard to figure out at all. The writing is just really good.

No. 115598

Thanks anon. Now I won’t waste my time. Men have shit taste lol

No. 115600

I agree with you for superhero comics. Or even American comics as a whole. I want to know what publishing houses are smoking in America. I don't get why super heroes fans lose their shit over how super heroes movie or cartoon fans almost never read comics when adaptations are more coherent most of the time and less confusing, even with the MCU.

No. 115602

The lore doesn't really matter in Gorillaz IMO. A lot of people just listen to it because it is good music, and learn on the go from the video clips. You can be a Gorillaz fan and just listen to their popular songs in my opinion, since it was a widely spread thing on MTV and stuff back in the mid 2000 to 2010 some people listened to it and never cared about lore. This is a good song btw

No. 115604

Naruto ended to me in the first series, after Sasuke ran away and then the fillers don't count. I did keep with some updates afterwards but to me the franchise was dead and heartless. I just liked seeing 12 year old Naruto and his pals jumping all over the place, the added angst and characters and things that I never cared about didn't do it for me. Don't get me started on Boruto. I only watched the movie because I care about my favorite silly ninja Naruto, his son is a prick.

No. 115606

Utena is so fucking retarded only a weeb would think it's good.

No. 115607

I agree with you about Sasuke, and I think he completely ruined the whole franchise, but there's no first series. There's just Naruto from the first to the last volume with everything in between. Because of shit like this you have retards asking where they need to start reading or watching long series like Naruto, Dragon Ball or JJBA when the answer is to watch episode one, then episode two, then episode three, etc. or read the first volume, then the second one, then the third one, etc. Reminds me of idiots on tumblr saying you could skip the first four acts in Homestuck and perfectly understand what's going on. Calling long anime adaptations "Shippuden" or "DBZ" is just some marketing gimmick so Japanese people casually watching TV back then would know there's a timeskip or a new season, that's literally it.

No. 115608


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Agreed, I still watch into season 8 or so because I love Charlie Bradbury (not AU Charlie or dark Charlie tho). Also I enjoy how we get to see Bobby as an actual father figure to them. Everything else is trash.

No. 115614

How exactly is Utena retarded? I get that it's not your taste and that some episodes are quirky, but…
And if you think that Utena is retarded, the rest of the anime must be braindead then.

No. 115616

oh thanks for your input anon!

No. 115618

NGE. People act like it's some great must watch anime but I think it's dumb and ugly too.
Also, SEL, except I did watch a few episodes. Not as dumb but still, wtf.

No. 115620

Samefag, forgot to mention Studio Ghibli (in general). Strong Disney vibes, I hate Disney.

No. 115621

Idol Master. So many girls, so little English.

No. 115632

I love IM@s so much and I consider it to be the only anime that is actually about idols instead of "cute girls doing cute things". I wish at least one of the games were translated, but I still appreciate them… I guess thats what makes it special.

No. 115635

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NTA, I think they mean Serial Experiments Lain. It's confusing af, but has a great soundtrack and concept.

Another one is Texhnolyze. The same artist from SEL designed it, and it also has a great, kind of unusual, soundtrack. But, it's really, really, REALLY boring and slow paced. It's not as well written as SEL, so there's no urge to try and figure out the plot's meaning. I liked the main character a lot, tho. Wish he had more development.

No. 115651

I'd say Jojo is extremely easy to get into. Skip part 1 through 3 and pick whatever part after those you like and read that. They don't have much connective tissue at all so you can literally pick whatever part you want outside of 1-3.

No. 115655

>the rest of anime must be braindead then
well, yes.

No. 115658

It doesnt really apply to part 6 imo

No. 115666

Why the fuck do people keep recommending to skip JoJo parts? Granted they are not the best of the general manga, but they are usually short and since it's an action series you can read it fast, plus there are still some great character interactions. I don't get get it, you don't tell people to skip the first volumes of Dragon Ball because it has no Saiyans, the same applies to JoJo.

No. 115668

Because they're self contained and you can do it without messing up the story, if a certain part is likely to turn you off the series it's worth considering. If I tried to soldier through part 3 (boring + shit scans) I would've given up and never read part 4, which is my favourite. It was definitely better to go back to it later.

No. 115669

Anon people are actually stupid to tell other to skip Dragon Ball volumes or episodes until the timeskip where it's called DBZ because of marketing bullshit. Don't overestimate anime fans.

No. 115671

Yeah ok, I picked a bad example, I love DB not matter the part so I could not fathom people skipping any moments. Still, I really wonder why people keep encouraging cherry picking JoJo parts, it's not that self-contained (it's still a small universe). I remember starting with part 5 and 6 specifically because people said they could stand on their own (this was before the anime and the old books were out of print in my country) and being utterly confused.

No. 115673

Are you French? Because the way all the partd were printed made buying the books confusing until part 3 became an anime and Tonkam decided to publish part 1 to 4. Anyway yeah no wonder you'd be confused with part 6 especially, the stakes aren't as high if you never read part 3 before that one.

No. 115674

part 2 was the best though?

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For me it's Umineko.
I love Higurashi, but like many others I got into it because of the anime. Once I finished that I craved more so I read the VN (and manga). The anime has plenty of faults and didn't age very well, but it was fine as a way of being introduced to the story and characters.

For Umineko it's different. The anime is an absolute garbage fire and covers only very little of the actual material. I got about 25 hours into the Umineko VN before I accidentally lost my save, and I just… never bothered to pick it back up. It's very very slow and requires a lot of patience if you aren't already invested in the characters. I know there 's supposed to be way more twists and whatnot beyond what I've seen, but I really can't be arsed to spend that much time clicking through what mostly feels like mundane filler dialogue.

No. 115680

Yes I am, bien vu.

No. 115685

this so much. I love superheroes but I really can't bring myself to read dc and marvel comics.

No. 115688

yeah umineko is so hard to get into but beatrice is queen

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>08th MS Team first
You already fucked it up.
Watch Mobile Suit Gundam (1979), tv series. After that, Zeta Gundam (1985) and the movie Char's Counterattack (1988).
0079 themes are the precursors of a fuckton of anime tropes, while the show itself being far from the normal generic anime shitfest. All dramatic points are top-notch and are the reasons why Tomino is always praised by other directors and industry veterans.
If you end up not enjoying it for petty reasons, like the old animation or slow pace, that's okay. But beyond those technical drawbacks lies the core gist of the whole franchise. If you can't say you liked 0079, I doubt you would enjoy the other non-joke gundam shows.

No. 115703

>"deep" anime like Anohana, Your Lie, Death Note, even Monster
Holy shit watch more anime? If this is your list of "deep" anime, you literally never watched a deep anime at all

No. 115704

>part 2 was the best though?
Is it really anon?
Nothing wrong with it being someone's favorite arc, but personally i found it just insufferable and if you don't ship caesar/joseph (personally i couldnt like either characters) then there's little to no content to really enjoy in that arc>>115674

No. 115705

Skipping Jojo part 1-3 is completely okay because the stupid macho shit is what turns most women off and the series stops doing that after those parts. As for picking whatever part outside of those, the continuity between them barely fuckin matters. People who have a hard time sticking to a long series aren't gonna start Jojo because of its length. It's better that they just pick the part that looks cool to them instead of being pressured to start from part 1, leading them to never fucking read any of it at all.

It's completely okay to start from watever Jojo part you want. Araki overexplains the shit happening anyway so you won't be in the dark starting from "the middle".

No. 115706

Also if you're somehow confused you can look up the synopsis to those 3 parts instead of slaving through the chapters.

No. 115714

When I learned she's basically the persona of a psychopath troon I couldn't like her anymore

No. 115724

Tell me more. Depending on how the story is and what it's actually about I may or may not read it, I don't want to waste time reading trash when I already have other VN in my backlog.

No. 115725

>Skipping Jojo part 1-3 is completely okay because the stupid macho shit is what turns most women off and the series stops doing that after those parts.
Nah, girls love stupid macho shit because it means cute macho boys, that's why we're such a massive part of literally any battle manga's audience despite them being aimed at boys. The male characters in 1-3 and therefore the parts themselves are incredibly popular with women.

1-2 are recommended to be skipped because they're so completely different from the rest of the series that they don't really give you an idea of whether you'll like later parts or not, and 3 is when Araki was still finding his footing with stands so it's just not a great part.

No. 115726

i dont ship joseph with caesar, i just really liked the historical setting, the pillar men, and joseph's character. the other parts just dont do it for me like part 2 did i guess

No. 115729

You can make that argument for coomers perhaps but most women I've spoken to about Jojo who were not interested in it cited the fist of the north star knockoff machismo.

No. 115754

has anyone here watched monster? i started watching it because of the extremely positive reviews but now im regretting it especially after seeing so many people say its not worth the 74 episodes. i feel like it has the potential to be so good and the first few episodes had me hooked but its just so slow and i dont really understand the hype. is it worth continuing?

No. 115755

be a fake gorillaz fan like me and start with the new stuff, somg machine is so fun! then dive in as you want

No. 115760

What episode are you on?

I watched it several years ago, it’s definitely a slow burn type series. The anime adaption was very accurate to the manga and doesn’t condense much. It picks up around episode 30ish (I think).

Overall I really enjoyed it, but it’s a definitely a slow-moving story and not for everyone.

No. 115761

I loved the manga but tbh I'm not sure if the anime would've held my attention if I tried it first, or even tried it now.

When in doubt with anime, I always go for the manga because you can consume 10x as much in the same amount of time and make your decision to continue or not with a better idea of the material.

No. 115768

>When in doubt with anime, I always go for the manga because you can consume 10x as much in the same amount of time
this, I never understand people that mostly watch anime and skip on manga even though they could get to know the whole story and not just season 1.
Every anime episode takes forever and often nothing even happens lmfao

No. 115772


> Higurashi

I never really heard about this one before, which is weird cause I was way into anime and mangas when I was younger. I saw it recently on Netflix and didn’t exactly get it.
I’m currently “playing” the VN but it’s so sluggish and the characters are plain annoying. I honestly don’t understand why people are praising the writing when it’s like “awwuuuu she sho kyuuuute” and every basic anime cliche trope that exist under the sun.
Yeah you can fight me Higurashi stans, cause I honestly just don’t get it.

> The office

I just don’t know if it’s worth getting into cause it’s so long, and it seems a bit overhyped. I feel like I’ve seen already half the show through memes at this point. Honestly asking if it’s worth watching?
I’m just starting It’s always sunny in Philadelphia but it’s honestly gold. I want to know if the office is about the same.

No. 115775

About Higurashi, I had hard time in the beginning because all of these tropes and extra long scenes of the characters playing games were just boring to read but let me assure you, it's loved for a reason. The whole point of setting up the "cliche" vibes and characters that seem like one trope personified is to make the later horror shift in tone feel even more pronounced.
In the end it's understandable if you don't want to sit through all that "cliche fun time" (and it's a lot of it especially in the first 3 chapters, at some point I just fastforwarded through some) but it's legitimately worth it in the end because writting where it matters really is fantastic, I've been reading horror literature half of my life and Higurashi is up there with the best when it comes to setting the tone, building tension and characters' psychology. On the surface if may seem like just "oh you think this cute girl is cute but she's actually a psycho" gimmick but it's much deeper than that, all of the character's "quirks" really make sense in the end, they're fully fleshed out people you can sympathize with.
Sorry for sounding like a weeb I guess but I'm really jaded when it comes to horror and visual novels as the genres and this genuinely VN surprised me with how good it turned out to be; so I feel like other people should not give up on it too.

No. 115776

I didn't play the VN but the anime got me hooked and it was uphill from there with season 2.

No. 115779

Is it better to start with the manga, anime, or VN?

No. 115780

anyone will tell you that you should start with VN since it's the definitive version of the story

No. 115781

The anime glazes over a lot of important plot points and the second season is extremely confusing as they had to cram everything as much as they could, it was the best way to get introduced to the franchise back in the day, but now that everything is available, there are much better options. The VN is often recommended, but a lot of people don't like reading those (myself included), it's extremely long and can feel fillerish during certain scenes (especially since there's no choice to make). The mangas are a good alternative since you can read them faster than the VN while still retaining all the important parts, careful with the varying quality of the art since it's a different artist depending on the arcs. If you like the VN format though, go ahead with it, the first arc is free on Steam iirc if you want to test the waters.

No. 115782

Thank you, anons! I do prefer reading the manga, as I can go through the story quicker, without any of the boring filler VN often has (as you've said). I just wanted to make sure that there weren't any major gaps in the story comparatively, or that the manga glosses over some of the original details.

No. 115783

I've seen the anime, don't know about manga, but I'm gonna say - definitely VN. The first person narration provides in depth look into protagonist's mind which is impossible to ever fully achieve in mediums like manga or anime; and I believe "tell, don't show" approach is far superior in horror genre, especially here where the author really excells at describing both paranoia and gore in a way that feels more intense than actually seeing someone's visual interpretation of it, gives you more freedom of your own interpretation and is more immersive thanks to that, especially with addition of music and sound effects.

Also, an unpopular opinion but after trying both I believe mangagamer's version is the best one; even though sprites are a bit too sexualized at times, they're polished and rough, filtered photos backgrounds + less of CGI moments kinda fit the vibe of the story more than more "visually appealing" fully painted console version.

No. 115795


personally I like hot-blooded macho stuff but to each their own, honestly.

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>kinda fit the vibe of the story more than more "visually appealing" fully painted console version
Why not just use the original sprites then? I never liked the redrawn ones since they felt so generic. Sure, ryukishi07 is no artistic genius, especially back then, but his expressions have their own vibe and fit the story best of all imo.

No. 115800

I've recently been playing this and I can't play the original ones because they crack me up. It ruins the mood.

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I kinda like the original 07th sprites, it gives the series a weird doujin charm, all the other designs are generic at best and hideous at worst (the Umineko pachinko sprites they used for Steam). I never managed to get over Mion's gun, it was such a weird design that they got rid of it in subsequent ports (but weirdly enough they kept it for the old anime). I don't think it was ever addressed, is it even a real gun?

No. 115819

>it gives the series a weird doujin charm.
That's 100% why I like the original sprites.

No. 115823

The gun was weird for sure, I always assumed it was supposed to be a toy gun or something for the club games, but I don't remember it ever being mentioned either. I mean, considering the material it could've been a real gun but then obviously it would come up in conversation at least.

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>Avatar the Last Airbender
I tried watching the first couple of eps, it really just feels like a kids show and I couldn't get into it. But plenty of adults adore it, the article I saved pic related from called it one of the greatest shows of all time… should I keep trying? Does it get good at a particular point?
>Star Wars
I've only seen the first movie and it felt dated and lame, it's one of the biggest franchises of all time so I feel like I need to watch it eventually. But do the other old movies hold up? Are any of the new ones good enough to make it worthwhile?

>Every anime episode takes forever and often nothing even happens lmfao
Honestly this is so true. I watched anime for years and I have a lot of series I loved, but even those series are just full of forcibly dragged out moments and overly slow pacing within scenes regardless of how fast the plot itself moves. Even on shitty western tv they tend to have something happening at all times and you're entertained from moment to moment. I can watch a western TV series I actively dislike and I'm still not waiting for things to move along the way I do in anime.

>I’m just starting It’s always sunny in Philadelphia but it’s honestly gold. I want to know if the office is about the same.
Always Sunny is significantly funnier but the Office is still funny and good for just background watching while you're multitasking. It's not a hard series to get into, you literally just pick any random episode and if you like it you'll probably like the rest.

No. 115828

I don't like Star Wars so I'm probably not the most qualified person to answer, but the very first one is notorious for having aged badly compared to the next two, there's a significant step up in quality between ANH and ESB. I'd say to at least watch the remaining two films of the original trilogy to get a general opinion on Star Wars. The prequels are atrocious and don't deserve to be watched, they are boring as fuck and ugly as sin, the only people who like them are the terminate hardcore fans and the millennials who grew up with the movies. As for the recent ones, I haven't seen them, but the general consensus is that they are not very good, and the fact that it's made by Disney is enough of a repellent to me.

No. 115830

Re: Avatar, yes, I would say the first several episodes have a somewhat generic, simplistic feel then it gets much better and more interesting. I usually hate when people tell me “watch until episode XX, it’s amazing after that I promise!” when it’s like bitch, if it isn’t capturing me straight away why do you think I want to waste my time watching trash until it might surpass mediocrity? But there are a few rare instances where I believe the wait was worth it, and I think Avatar is one of those. Personally I think it starts getting more thoughtful, mature and creative by episode 10. Keep in mind that the characters are kids themselves, so it’s also the journey of watching them grow from naive children into more experienced and thoughtful adults that makes it so fun. They never get past the teenage stage so keep that in mind, but it deals with young adults dealing with sometimes harsh realities and conflicting values in an honest and intelligent way. It’s not a gritty grimdark show where they constantly face rape, murder and torture, but frankly that’s one of the reasons I find it so refreshing.

No. 115831

>it really just feels like a kids show
That's because it is. It's better written than most kids shows but it's really not that deep. I liked it a lot when it started airing but I didn't care beyond that and I was surprised to see it had an active fandom on tumblr in the early 2010s. I'm guessing adults like it because of nostalgia. I also couldn't get into Korra. It started well enough, then love triangle bullshit happened for more than half of the first season, Korra herself is unlikable, and when season 2 got announced I already stopped giving a fuck.

No. 115835

wait what??? explain
so is beatrice a psychopath troon??
yeah, hot blooded macho stuff can be fun. I'm watching cromartie highschool right now (dubbed version) and it's just fun to watch.

No. 115837

Take my words with a grain of salt because I never managed to understand what the fuck the Meta World and the witches were, but basically Kinzo had an incest child with his own daughter, and that kid got dramatically wounded so much that his genitals were not recognizable. It's heavily implied in the manga that he is male, but he ends getting raised as female named Sayo Yasuda. He becomes a maid at the mansion and growing up he starts to experience existential crisis with his identity and creates different personas to cope (Shannon and Kanon being the main ones), Beatrice being one of them. He decides to detonate Rokkenjima because the family is fucked up and Battler forgot the promise he made years ago (mind you Battler was going through a divorce and his mother's death, he had his own problems). I must add that Sayo is worshipped by the twitter fandom of Umineko as a "my poor wittle tranz baby who did nothing wrong uwu", which adds to the unpleasantness of the character. I don't think you could call Beatrice a troon but she's too linked to Sayo (and she's not even real if I've understood everything correctly).

No. 115844

The first star wars has not aged badly compared to the second two in the original trilogy anon.

If the first one didn't appeal to you than it's just not your style

No. 115853

Seconding this. I love Avatar, but its fans really do not talk about how generic a full third of it is. FWIW I didn't like it as a kid, so when I say I love it, it's without nostalgia, but yeah, I literally never revisit the whole first season. I watched it w/ my little sis when she was a legit kid, definitely the target audience for the kiddie stuff, and even she was like "when does this get good" – though she's a huge fan now, lol. There's some cool stuff in that first season–some visual choices in the finale were the first things to make me really sit up and think people were onto something when they talked about how good it is. But having seen the whole thing….it's ridiculous how many things that make the show what it is are just totally absent from that first season.

Related, if you end up liking ATLA and want to watch LOK: I think fans are way too hard on LOK and forget how much of ATLA is meh. LOK's got dud moments but ATLA does too, people are just nostalgic.

No. 115854

I feel so alone in not liking Avatar, one of my friends was obsessed so we watched the first season and some of the second together, I just couldn’t get into it. It definitely felt like a kids show. Not saying it’s bad but I didn’t get the hype at all.

No. 115855

Naw gotta disagree but a main reason a lot more shit on LoK is the hard shifts in world and story telling. You gotta remember that the 'creators' were more idea guys then actual creators. LoK goes from east Asian philosophy and world elements, to 1920s Chicago. The writing was a dumpster fire of love triangle and terrible plots they wanted in ATLA but the head writer Ehaz shot down or changed. We almost had Toph as an annoying macho guy who would constantly fight Aang for Katara's affections. Azula was almost the generic golden child older brother among things. Elements that were then used in LoK. They actually defended the shitty way Mako treated Korra and Asami as "It's how we were in college." LoK gets a bad rap because it put a spotlight on the two morons as boring white men or took credit for everyone elses hard work. sage for sperg

No. 115882

I like my pretty skinny boys but parts 1-2 are legitimately very fun, and are so short they're low-commitment compared to later parts. You can skip portions of part 3 and still get the gist of the story since so much of it is enemy stand user of the week stories, and are weaker than enemy stand stories in later parts.
Honestly when people skip parts I just assume they want to get into jojo for the memes or something, or that Jojo is straight up not for them if they can't get through parts 1 and 2.

No. 115891

I'm a different anon but reading the wikia (and not knowing the game) it's really clear that he is male, not in a "mtf" way but really male, the family just fucked up raising him as a girl because his dick got mutilated in an accident. He is more relatable to (cis) children who where forcibily trooned out by their parents than troons who badly want a pussy

It's also kinda sad that it became hard to play with the ambiguity of this topic now that these degenerates always have to shout "one of us!!! twans right uwu!!"

No. 115894

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Oopsi I also forgot to add there is a character in a similar context in the game "Fear and Hunger - Termina", his mother raised him as a girl so he could avoid is gruesome fate as the family heir, and the author stated that "she doesn't feel distress about her gender". I find it's an interesting way to approach the topic but even the troons are kinda ruining it for me because no ambiguity allowed when it comes to gender now.

Not saging this post because I actually want to talk about this game. It's a (still updating) sequel of the game of the same name and I loved the weird uneasy atmosphere, anyone liked this game?

No. 115896

samefag I just realized I wasn't in the game thread ignore my sperg sorry lmao.

No. 115950

So they based it off that poor boy who'd been raised as a girl and whose doctor started the whole stupid gender identity bs. Heavy shit to parody.

No. 116369

Ok anon from last post here, and I felt like I was maybe missing out something I didn’t get from the anime if I played the first VN so I went back to it and finally finished the first … episode?

I still don’t like it, even more so now if that’s possible. Maybe I just don’t get the format. I never played a “game” so long with so little content. I’m a big fan of horror media and honestly this ain’t it. I felt like watching only the filler episodes of an anime 80% of the time.

Maybe it’s because I outgrew my weeb phase, but characters whose eyes become blank and go “gyeh gyeh gyeh” doesn’t do much for me. Also the whole “loli who goes mew” is too cringe.
I had a better time reading through r/unresolvedmysteries and didn’t have to suffer through 3 hours of middle school kids playing card games.

No. 116370

I admittedly don't have a lot of experience with VNs but I think they are a god awful form of media from the few I have played. Not enough text to be engaging like a book, not enough animation to be entertaining like a TV series, not enough interactivity to be fun like a video game. It's just an extremely long, slow, mediocre mix of all three that only appeals to weebs who want complete immersion.

No. 116371

I thought so too until I played Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors. It wouldn’t have worked on any other medium, but that depends on the author and its mastery of the medium.

No. 116372

It's not just a VN though, it's more of an adventure game. Same with Ace Attorney and maybe Dangan Ronpa though in that one the VN parts of the game and the gameplay sections are very distinct.

No. 116374

>the whole “loli who goes mew” is too cringe. I had a better time reading through r/unresolvedmysteries and didn’t have to suffer through 3 hours of middle school kids playing card games.
fucking this. I do enjoy some manga/anime/vn, but not this kind of dreg. I don't know how people overlook this bullshit when praising Umineko/Higurashi? It's insufferable and makes it impossible to treat the story seriously.

No. 116391

I agree. I played the first episode too, and even getting to the horror part it just… didn't do it for me. I'm not sure why, maybe it was the "supernatural" element (not a fan of those stories, more of a fan of the psychological elements), but it just wasn't worth the "buildup" of filler.

No. 116394

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999 and its sequel virtue's last reward are so good.

No. 116434


Thanks anons, yet again this board is one of the last place where people have sensible opinions. I thought I was going mad by seeing every review being 9.5/10. I felt like I was taking crazy pills after having sunk 5 hours of my life into this episode.

I’m open to the idea of trying another episode if it has a bit more gameplay like maybe anon here >>116371 mentioned.

I felt like putting it in the VN category was a bit deceiving as I was expecting some choice option with different endings (idk, maybe a bit like Doki doki, and even that was shit)
Overall, calling the writing a masterpiece is plain deranged.

No. 123413

The higurashi remake really made me get into higurashi, but still it's like I don't have enough attention span to read all of it + umineko

No. 126644

Watching someone else playthrough makes it easier. They read the narration and you can watch the dialogue like an anime. It's so long that if you're not in school, it's such a time sink to read yourself

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