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I've never been able to find a full res version of this Solas tarot card but I was able to find a cropped one at huge res through the Steam TCG collection thing. I'm unable to even figure out who the artist is unlike the rest of the cards in the game.
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>>121915The ones you like do go together I'd say. They're on the authoritarian side of things ideologically (though Cassandra has a reformist streak to her) and are strong-willed women who look awesome. What kinda companion would you like to see in DA4? Were there other companions that were close to being cool but didn't hit the mark for you?
Cassandra was a surprise hit for me, I ended up enjoying her a lot even though I find her VA a bit difficult to listen to. Well, my inquisitor's ideology simply didn't mesh with hers so I didn't bring her along and actually ended on bad terms with her, RP-wise. Still a cool character I did not expect to like at all.
I'm replaying DA2 right now and realizing I barely remember anything from that game. All the companions seem annoying to me and I hate Hawke too.
No. 121927
>>121917I loved them because as you said they were cool and strong; I hoped that Sera would be cool, but she just really annoyed me; her room was the coolest though. I really thought I would like most of the characters but I found them pretty boring once I actually talked to them, but maybe I did something wrong or didn't focus on talking to them enough or in the right way, and I didn't romance anybody. Everything was just pretty forgettable for me, and I really wish the companions would have talked more between themselves while we were travelling, they didn't really talk much or more like they didn't say interesting things; in dragon age origins, they probably talked the same amount but I feel like it was more because it was fun (the bickering of Alistair and Morrigan)
What did you think about the characters? Which was your favorite?
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>>121915This makes me feel so much better lol I feel like all the companions on DA:I were kind of lackluster. I usually bond really easy with the side characters, ie during DA:O everyone but Sten got to be on my party (Alistair, Morrigan and Zevran being my faves) and as much as I loathed DA2 Fenris and Anders kind of grew on me, however in DA:I I wasn't particularly fond of anyone. I liked Dorian and Cassandra but if they died at the end of the game I wouldn't have cared, whereas I was legit sad when
fucking Anders went crazy. I did enjoy Cullen's romance though, being a mage I actually enjoyed the angst.
They better make Varric a romanceable character at some point because I swear to god I;ve had a crush on that dwarf since DA2
No. 121934
>>121917>All the companions seem annoying to me and I hate Hawke too.I know Varric is popular but Aveline was a low key gem. Determined to do her job in that cursed city even if there's no winning.
Aveline and Merrill are the two I remember as best/worst. Merrill's writing in particular is still baffling to think about.
No. 121947
>>121927There were a bunch of convos between them while roaming that I felt were nice. Btw afaik there is a bug in DAI that makes banter take place far less frequently than it should. There are mods or cheats you can use to fix it. Anyway, Cole and Solas in particular talk about interesting and mysterious topics. They're good lore nerd content. Sera tends to pick on people which can be amusing, she actually does bicker with people just like Morrigan did. The ones I feel strongly about IRL (so outside of RP) are:
Love
>Solas>Cole>Dorian>CassandraHate
>Blackwall>Sera>VarricMy favorite is Solas. I expected to like
none of the cast tbqh but as I got really into RPing my character, her interactions with different companions put on a lot of meaning. I tried my best to embody the character based on the voice actor's performance as well as her backstory, and kept building up her personality and ideology with respect to her interactions with her companions. Tried to mimic a character arc of sorts I suppose.
Overall one thing I love about DAI is that even negative interactions with the cast are memorable and rewarding. My Lavellan started off distant from Cass, got closer with her as they helped each other BUT THEN, Cassandra's adamant rejection of anything "suspicious" to her started to wear my character down. She ended up getting Cassandra's max disapproval cutscene and it was great. Felt like a true falling out with someone my character initially grew to respect but ultimately lost that respect for along the way.
I'm sorry for the pure autism I'm about to spew but tbh I like reading about others' RP so please post yours if you're like me!!
I RP'd a Dalish mage who was in the process of leaving her clan behind before the anchor came into her life. The idea was that she spent a lot of time spying around Ferelden which is also why she has that English (human) accent rather than the Welsh/Irish (dalish) one. I followed Leliana's advice a lot and chose espionage-related war table solutions for the most part. Her god was June which is the craftsman deity, it went nicely with me always crafting her gear, I chose a favorite color for her and included that in all her stuff. Overall she started out as a curious and flexible woman who doesn't like the restrictions of Dalish life so wanted out. Of course, the events of the game both made her more insecure but also more principled.
My Lavellan first tried forging a connection with the two elven companions but both were weird towards her for being Dalish which first got her in a combative place with them but she started to open up as Cole and Solas both taught her a lot about the life she thought she knew and her thirst for meaning got really intense as her journey progressed.
Solas left a huge impact. What I love about that character is that you can argue with him all day. He actually appreciates it when you question his reasoning and will give you approval even when you end on a note of disagreement. That went over great with my Lavellan who became increasingly skeptical of others as she found out more and more shit she was taught wrong. Solas helped her immensely in finding new meaning in a life where she previously felt so lost.
My Lavellan became aware of how much responsibility lies on each individual to choose to be
something rather than act like they're simply being guided by circumstance. The fate of the rebel mages was an early decision for me as I did their quest first, I had them become allies which was a result of my Lavellan being more accepting and forgiving earlier on. Plus she appreciated that they were trying to self-determine though they lacked good leadership. While she began more lenient at the start, as the story progressed I had her making judgments on the principle that it's not enough to feel sorry or want freedom, one must actively atone. The Dalish were all about living as
victims to history and while IRL I think about the issue in a more nuanced way than "just get over systemic oppression lol", Lavellan is still figuring out her place in the issue and how the issue even works. It's a lot to navigate. Anyway, she ends up exiling and conscripting people a bunch. She had them atone actively rather than just execute them which is an easy escape or reward them with their freedom.
The amount of betrayals in the story absolutely rule!! Lavellan is constantly given reasons not to trust people but she's so strong that she can keep trying. People aren't simple and they are worthy of a chance to redeem themselves. It'll take hard work on their part though.
She disbanded the inquisition in the end, tired of being a huge symbol but also tired of dealing with the Chantry which she doesn't even believe the teachings of. I hope she will redeem Solas in DA4, even if she isn't the protag.
No. 121959
>>121952I sure am lmfao
I did not make it far at all, she kept saying "gotta spend more time w me bud" and I was like "BYE" cause literally everyone else in the companion cast was more interesting than her. I'll make a rogue character who isn't an elf and who also hates anything remotely cerebral to romance her at some point though.
No. 121961
>>121947Forgot to mention that whenever I read your posts I feel like playing again and maybe trying to get more into the story, maybe this time I will grow more attached to my companions
>>121960lmao I will start calling him that from now on. Leave my manlet alone anon, didn't really romance him but I loved having him in my party, he's an idiot
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>>121961Ahh, that makes me feel so warm inside!!
and it's not just the beer i've been chuggin………… It can be hard to get into RP if you don't connect to the characters but pinning down who I want my protag to be helps me get into the right headspace and suddenly some companions shine. Then I can make friends and enemies with impunity and fully immerse myself in the life of someone else. I hope you can have a better experience if you do end up playing again!
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>>121911All I want for DA4 is my girl Vaea to appear, even thought it's going to be more than a cameo…
And Evanuris Lore, I loved Ghilannain stuff from Tevinter Nights!
No. 122007
>>121952ntayrt but my very first romance in DAI was Sera … as a mage elf. Made it all the way to the end. I'm very into Elfishness so having a character who pretty much had to reject everything to be with her was pretty hard.
My second playthrough was a Josie romance, and my third was Solas. I made a fourth to romance Blackwall and wound up romancing Solas again.
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>>121999Josephine's romance is the female version of Cullen's except even more saccharine afaik. I quite like her particular brand of micromanaging sweetie though I did not romance her. Pin unrelated.
>>122007Blackwall is as bland as cardboard. I truly don't understand what there is to like about him beyond beardfags not being able to see past a man with that kinda look.
What were the positives and negatives of each romance for you? I feel like they can all be super rewarding depending on the character they're paired with. Elf mage with Sera sounds kinda
toxic to me… did your character come out of it as someone who has new meaning or someone who got bullied into leaving what matters to her behind?
No. 122028
>>122007It kinda feels like you're not getting the full DAI experience if you're not romancing Solas.
>>122026 is correct though, for some reason Blackwall is bland as mayo. Tried to begin a romance with him on an abandoned playthrough. Before I quit, I forgot I was meant to be romancing him and he was too busy carving wooden toys in his shed to even notice.
No. 122035
>>122028DAI really does feel like it's most impactful for a female elf mage. Solas romance being one strong reason obviously but also how the previous inquisitor was
also an elf mage whose legacy was subjected to erasure and how the Circle of Magi conflict has come to a head in the story. A character that isn't a mage can of course have strong feelings about how mages ought to be handled but a mage trying to solidify how they feel about their own people imo is far more interesting. Will the inquisitor be swayed by Vivienne's authoritarian approach, Cassandra's moderate reform idea, Leliana's chaos mode? Fiona is a pretty retarded and spineless leader but do the people under her deserve to be punished for her awful mistakes? The whole story keeps showing you all sorts of sides to the mage question and I felt extremely seen by the narrative when I played my (recently-apostate after leaving her clan) mage. I don't think a non-mage inquisitor can connect to the conflict as well.
I'd like to hear what a templar RPer has to say about DAI, though. Perhaps what I felt was the game's particular affinity to the elf mage identity crisis might be one of many facets that I simply haven't seen yet.
No. 122051
>>122035I unironically play templar aligned only because I always play as a warrior human and it does feel like I'm the bad guy when I play DA2 and DAI. Might be why I prefer to play Origins since the conflict there is much more marginal. Also DA2 feels (and is? If I remember correctly) unfinished and DAI… I think it's much more better "imagined" than in reality, and yes it does skew female mage elf
which corrisponds to an overabundance of fanfiction with those tracts which DOES NOT help me reimagine the game lmao this is just pettiness sorryNone of the romance options really impressed me but I did romance Sera because imo she fit with my inquisitor. Alistair will be in my heart forever
and Fenris too even if he's a fuckboy and even more radicalized (could honestly be justified). I wish Morrigan wasn't straight even if I know why she is.
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>>122051To your point on imagining, I found myself thinking about my character and her interactions while not playing the game like all the time. Sometimes I still think up scenarios in my head. Now I wonder just how deeply my aggressive headcanoning enhanced my experience… Also I stay well away from fanfic and Solavellan community activities in general. I find the fandom extremely cringy and have absolutely zero interest in engaging that side of the DA fandom lol. I'm happy in my own head for the most part, as long as BioWare keeps giving me tidbits like in Tevinter Nights to enhance my headcanon.
I've heard great things about Cassandra's romance route but then again people love Morrigan's and I hate her whole thing. People also simp for Blackwall all the time, mehhhh. My greedy lizard brain wants every companion character to be bisexual tbh so I don't have to play a specific gender just for the romance. Admittedly I wouldn't want Sera to be bi just cause I don't wanna see fanart of her with a scrote. I'm a hypocrite like that lmfao.
I generally don't like fanart with people's OCs anyway though. It makes me feel weird since I get attached to my characters so it's like seeing their partner cheating or something?? No. 122067
>>122061With Hawke's voicework (both genders), if you even tried to RP replies to the general insanity in and around Kirkwall using the vast variety of three basic styles you were usually given, your Hawke just came off as dumb and written by committee at best, or genuinely schizo at worst.
After Origins, I began to dread the romance sections of the games. They were embarrassing to me and just a naked numbers game of gifting them +1 horny items. Inquisition wasn't quite that bad though, if I remember right.
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>>122067samefag but with the Hawke siblings, I found I enjoyed Carver as a character more than Bethany and found this surprising. Carver's writing was generally a bit more thoughtful than Bethany's, where it seemed "cute sis" was the goal they were aiming for.
It's interesting though that Bethany is a lot happier as a Circle mage under Kirkwall's brutal system than she is as a Grey Warden.
No. 122075
>>122070Carver was my fave DA2 character, I also enjoyed him becoming a templar more than a grey warden.
I wish Bethany was a bit more interesting, idk, Carver was infuriating at times but he was interesting and I loved bringing him along. Bethany on the other hand felt like she was just there.
Now Hawke was a prick. Worst player character.
No. 122077
>>122067Inquisition's romance was the only time I actually enjoyed a romantic cutscene in a video game. Ever. It actually changed my mind about romance elements in RPGs, now I'm not fundamentally against it like I was before. Origins made me wanna crawl out of my skin with those sex scenes and DA2 was not much better.
>>122070Agreed on Carver. He isn't a character I'd wanna be friends with but he is a compelling character that does, to an extent, feel alive.
No. 122109
>>122026I like Blackwall's character arc, and I've heard his romance is bittersweet, which is why I want to try my hand at it. Ideally I'd like to get through each romance, but I'm not in the least bit interested in Cullen so I imagine he will be last.
Not sure what to and what not to spoiler, so I'll do my best for people who haven't played these romances.
I feel being with Sera allows Inky to really let loose and relax in a way she can't with the others. Being in a relationship with her allows her to open up about her past and how
the abuse she endured for not being "elfy enough" shaped how she feels about elves and explains her issues with projection. There are various hints in-game that being with Lavellan eases her into slowly getting into learning more about elves/Dalish, but it's not explored much beyond that.
I completely understand why refusing to denounce Dalishness/gods is a dealbreaker for Sera, though. What happens at the Temple of Mythal completely shakes her entire belief system in a way that she is not equipped to handle, coupled with fears that Lavellan is going to become like one of the others that hurt her. If you're just getting through the romance to check it off the list, it's no biggy, but if you approach it from a roleplaying standpoint you have to seriously consider where your Lavellan stands, and whether or not she is able to
essentially abandon her Dalish roots and prioritize Sera and their relationship (of course you could headcanon it as Lavellan lying to Sera when she presses her on it, but I did not.)I'm sure romancing her as anything other than an Elf is a hell of a lot easier than the path I took.
Josie's romance is sweet, innocent romance, and a huge breath of fresh air. It's light and fluffy, and isn't emotionally intense like Sera's romance can be. I love
Leliana's brief involvement; it was a nice touch and reinforced how close they are and how much they care for each other. However … The romance as a whole is sorely lacking in content and that is a goddamn shame. I don't mind the lack of a sex scene - I'm 100% fine with that. There just isn't even really any party banter about it.
As for Solas …
I have a problem with wanting to put my characters through emotional torture and Solas's romance really does that for me. Solas starts to second-guess himself with a friendly Inquisitor, but a romanced Lavellan takes that to an entirely new level -
to the point where he's ready to come clean about being the Dread Wolf and lay it all out on the table, until he changes his mind at the last second. I enjoy that their relationship grows out of Lavellan's thirst for knowledge, and how freely Solas responds positively to her inquisitiveness and understanding. He is open about how he makes her question what he has learned and come to expect from the Dalish (and people in general.)
I enjoy that he recognizes that he has to leave her because he genuinely loves her and does not want her to see who he must become in order to do what he believes must be done. It isn't that she is simply a distraction that can lead him away from his goal, it's that falling in love with her has put him at odds with himself. It isn't just a tragic love for Lavellen, but him too, and Trespasser really brings that to light. My major issue with the romance doesn't really have to do with the romance itself, but more so the Solavellan fans who
ignore Solas's misdeeds, how much he lies, and the fact that he withholds crucial information, manipulates, and is pretty damned racist. No. 122114
>>122109I loved reading your post anon, thank you for sharing.
I'm still not sure what kind of Inquisitor I'll make for Sera's romance but I don't want an elf to pair with her. I'd like to branch out and do Qunari or Dwarf, not sure which yet. I heard the story doesn't acknowledge those two races like it does elves, sounds like a missed opportunity.
What you've said about Solas speaks to me. I've pondered about "behind the scenes" moments between Lavellan and Solas and what their dynamic is like throughout the story. It seems to me that Solas starts at an aloof mentor point and progresses to recognize the wisdom in Lavellan as he encourages her curiosity which is ultimately the catalyst to their emotional/intellectual dynamic shifting. It looks to me like what began as a manipulative guidance role gives way to something far more mutual than Pride would have ever predicted. Solas begins to learn from her and that is the turning point. I'm lead to belive that, by the time he offers to remove the
vallaslin he's kinda lost control of the whole plot and about to unravel, but pulls it together and by the next cutscene in Trespasser he's seemingly re-established himself as the one in control. That is how he wants it to seem but imo with a romanced Lavellan the person in control isn't really him anymore, despite the posturing during the ending scene. It's just a tug of war between his guilt/past and the hope Lavellan seeded in his head; a new path for the future vs trying to undo the past. I do believe the wolf we see in the epilogue card is actually him and not a mirage. He's extremely not over Lavellan. I've not reached the Solas story in Tevinter Nights yet but I am eagerly reading the stories in order atm! I'll see how extensively I'll be forced to headcanon in DA4 but I'm hoping there's an on-screen opportunity for my Inquisitor to confront him and despite "saving" him, she can also make him atone hardcore cause none of what he did was remotely okay. I'll just be upset if they do the Kylo Ren redemption where he drops dead the moment he is redeemed. I also definitely don't want his one connection to the world to be Lavellan. She is the start of it but I'll be annoyed if the way to save him is being his "not like the other mortals" gf. I'd like him to grow beyond thinking his gf is exceptional.
Right there with you on making my characters suffer. Tragic romances in particular are definitely super compelling though I do want my characters' romances to end on a hurt/comfort note usually. Going through hell and back to eventually stabilize at least a little, albeit still in a flawed way. I don't mind if characters die but I feel like a bittersweet ending where the couple has to live on and tackle their baggage together speaks to me more than one of them dying and the other moving on. Definitely not one for perfect endings or relationships that have no dysfunctions though.
I had a multiple romance mod installed so the way I played my Lavellan was she goes for Solas while flirting with Cullen a bit (mostly cause his flustered stuttering is amusing to her) here and there until things get serious with the Eggboy, goes full Solas and gets dumped, has a brief fling with Cullen as rebound but breaks it off right when Cullen tries to give her his lucky coin. She takes the coin, regrets it and ends it with Cullen to just pine for Solas as they continue through Hakkon and Descent and then… well the Cory fight and Trespasser breaks her hah. The (paraphrasing)"Why won't anything in this fucking world stay fixed?!" line was too good. Such a sweet fuckin DLC.
Also I ship Josie with
Leliana No. 122225
>>121912Ramil Sunga drew this one. :)
>>122114Qunari and Dwarves really did get the short end of the stick, but I'm hoping they will play a bigger part in DA4. Tevinter Nights seems to push in that direction.
Sera loves both of them, especially Qunari, so I think you'd have a pretty fun time.
I LOVE your mention of Pride because even though that's literally what his name means, I'm really fond of the fan theory that
Solas is a spirit of Wisdom that has corrupted into Pride. I absolutely agree with you that he appears at odds with himself. I don't know how far you have gotten in Tevinter Nights, but Callback is amazing not just for nostalgia, but for the insight into how Solas's time in the Inquisition shaped him. I know the devs have pretty much said that Trespasser was the end of the Inquisitor/Solas story, but that's difficult enough to believe with a friendly Inquisitor. A romanced Lavellan adds layers to that relationship. I'm going to be extremely disappointed if Inky does not make an appearance. I understand how unlikely it is for the next protag to be the Inquisitor (we will probably be able to play a Lord of Fortune, Antivan Crow, etc.) but it would be interesting to have them as an advisor, if nothing else. I want a Solas redemption where he 100% does not die and he tries to fix the shit he screwed up. He is not IMHO the Big Bad of the series. He doesn't need to die, I don't think he will because he seems to be the pet character of Weekes. I could be proven wrong.
I'm with you re: tragic romances. I'd much rather see the growth that comes from healing together than have one of them kick the bucket (in a usually horribly sad/self-sacrificing way) and leave their partner to pick up the pieces. I also like the tragic romances where they both live, but can't move past the tragedies together because one or both have been changed in ways that are incompatible with the other person.
Your Lavellan's romance story sounds like something I'd have mine go through if I wasn't stuck playing it on PS4.
I was hoping for Josie and
Leliana to get together but the Josie and
Blackwall hints were cute.
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>>122225I feel like the Solas being a Wisdom/Pride spirit who took on a physical form is all but confirmed at this point, I'll be shocked if it turns out not to be true. Whether he did so to serve
Mythal and later on removed the vallaslin from his face to rebel however I'm not sure about, I feel like we're missing too crucial of a chunk of the story there to fully grasp what the hell happened between those two. I did read Callback, it kinda broke me for a while. Especially since the fresco is now
destroyed just like my poor Inky's love story. Kms. Also I'm kinda retarded I guess but I didn't realize Solas was canonically the one who painted that fresco in his room until after I finished the game and everyone was taking it for granted that he is indeed an artist. It makes sense in hindsight but I totally didn't piece that together even after Trespasser. I just thought that was the art style of Dragon Age artists lmfao.
I'll be honest I won't even sideeye Weekes if he gives some of that Tyrion Lannister plot favoritism juice to Solas. Keep my boy alive and make him clean up his mess but not in a shitty way pls! It's pretty much confirmed the protag will be a nobody and as you said likely a Lord of Fortune but I've read that BioWare has toyed with the idea of multiple protagonists like that one Kingdom Hearts game so perhaps a segment within DA4 where the Solas story culminates in some way could happen. Probably not though, bleh.
>I also like the tragic romances where they both live, but can't move past the tragedies together because one or both have been changed in ways that are incompatible with the other person100%
I'm sorry but I want Blackwall to fade into the abyss and never show his wonderbread ass face ever again. I really fucking hate this man.
No. 122385
>>122231I feel like Blackwall has as much of a chance of coming back as someone like Nathaniel Howe for example.
You probably don't have to worry too much.
No. 122768
>>122231>I'll be honest I won't even sideeye Weekes if he gives some of that Tyrion Lannister plot favoritism juice to Solas. Keep my boy alive and make him clean up his mess but not in a shitty way pls!I'm not the biggest fan of Solas (interesting character, but the narrative and especially the fandom favours him stupidly much), but it's kind of inevitable that the next game will focus on him… I just hope Patrick Weeke's Fursona isn't given too Messianic a treatment, and is actually held accountable for his bullshit for once.
Curious you loathe Blackwall - who has a legitimate redemption story arc in Inquisition – and yet you stan Solas and want to see his genocidal ass redeemed kek
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>>122768Blackwall is a boring person with no personality, to me. His arc of redemption I really like actually. I had him come clean and keep adventuring with me to redeem himself through action. What I don't like is him as a person for being boring and a pinterest man in all but man bun.
Ok maybe pinterest skews timothee chalamet clone e-boy these days but this dude type still appeals to so many women and I don't understand his appeal and have a grudge because I had to design one of these Beard Dudes for work beforeWith Solas, you can ask him about history, the mechanics of magic, the spirits, the fade, art, parties/gossip, etc. He's a person who hs hobbies and many interests. Now think about the topics you get to inquire Blackwall about. What has he ever shown interest in besides THE GREY WARDENS (his fucking job) and WOOD THING (one time). He's got nothing.
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>>122768>interesting character, but the narrative and especially the fandom favours him stupidly muchI agree with this, I had pretty strong feelings the first time I played because
i respected him a lot and that betrayal was very unexpected and hurtful for me I don't get why people get so obsessed with him though, he's a great character but saying he's the only TRUE romance and if you don't play a female elf and romance him then you don't get the full DAI experience? Nah.
I mean if Dragon Age was like Mass Effect that you only play one character? Yeah, ok, but I seriously doubt the inquisitor's romance will make any real difference in subsequent games and/or any other media.
Speaking of which did any of you like Blue Wraith? I finally got around to reading it and I regret it so much, I hated every second of it and I hate what they did to Fenris,
like all his growth in DA2 never happened, they literally made him regress to the beginning of DA2 and I got even angrier when the authors basically started responding to criticism by acting like the ones who didn't like the plot were absolute idiots. The guy Nunzio saying he related to Fenris because he was latino and so he knew how he'd act was the weirdest shit I've read in a really long time.
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>>122858lbh considering that your characters identity barely puts a dent in the story, what makes people think a romance will? I like Solas for what its wort. But no ounce of extra interaction is going to make the end game any richer outside of a few extra reactions.
I haven’t even began to touch that comic, but it really goes to show how far some fanon can go. I get that dude might have identified w/ Fernis but your writing a piece of official canon. Your not exactly writing fic for a select few. Your getting paid money to actually satisfy everyone.
Sometimes it just pays to say that you did what you did instead of digging yourself even deeper.
No. 122876
>>122858They really need to stop retconning shit like this. Prequels are fine but to take a character whose life each player had an impact on and take it to a fixed place in the future like this is a retarded idea. Nobody will ever be okay with this happening to a character they personally connected to, like Fenris. In general I don't like that there are "canon" things that happen to characters. I'd rather have extensive time skips which nullify my decisions across games than have retcons like this where characters are alive and well yet bear none of the impact of the games I spent hours playing with them.
Not that it was a super important character but Tevinter Nights resurrected a character that I
threw a knife through the skull of, killing him in DAO. He's just totally alive and well.
As for Solas, the fandom attitude towards him annoys me too but it's undeniable that a Solasmancing Lavellan gets more personal ties to the main plot due to fucking the main antagonist. It's not a matter of opinion, it's objectively more impactful to be faced with potentially murdering your boyfriend than your former coworker.
No. 122908
>>122858I liked the comics, but then again, I care less about Fenris and more about the new characters and overall lore. Same goes for all other tie-ins.
Also, my Hawke and Fenris never became that close in DA2, so I get that Fenris turns out that way after the gang falls apart.
No. 122915
>>122908I get it, I'd been liking the comics so far and enjoyed the new characters, but like
>>122876 said, companions are usually very well loved, don't make big changes to their story because people aren't gonna like it. I've been reading Tevinter Nights and imo how they portrayed
Dorian is perfect, they're still 100% themselves and still very much relevant to the story.
Blue wraith was such disappointment after all the other comics, it felt like bad fanfiction.
No. 122919
>>122915They probably brought him back because of the sarcophagus and his connection to it. Otherwise I wouldn't understand why they would touch such a difficult character like him, where a players choice has such a vastly different impact on his story.
Fingers crossed 'Dark Fortress' at least deliviers some sweet lore connecting to the sarcophagus or at least a build up to it's possible whereabouts in DA4
No. 123192
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Sorry for the reddit screenshot but this is a pretty handy list for canon major events in preparation for DA4. Sharing for my fellow amnesiafags out there
No. 123233
>>123192Thanks for the recap, a couple things I had already goddamn forgotten…
I'm so interested to see if the veil thing will even be that bad if it happens. I don't get how it would just kill everyone. Sounds like Solas is wrong about that, maybe cause he thinks the current people roaming Thedas are so retarded that they'd crumble with more magic around. Like he's underestimating them again and being a dumbass. Fact is everyone but Dwarves are able to interact with the veil to varying degrees, mages obviously being the most connected. That leads me to think the veil being torn down wouldn't fuck them up. Dwarves might get wiped out though, I'm not sure about them.
No. 123236
>>122945I don't recall Inky being able to change his mind, but he had some conversations with Sera and Solas that seemed to sway his opinion.
>>123192I'm going to touch on some of the stuff in this screen cap, as well as some other things:
We can expect to see the Red Lyrium Idol make a comeback, as Solas plans to use it in some way.
Solas is now powerful enough to
kill people in their dreams, including dwarves. I expect this to be the opening cinematic for DA4 but I am probably super wrong.
We have come further with respect to Qunari/Tevinter, in that as of Tevinter Nights
the Qunari have invaded and conquered Ventus (and want to take Rivain) but this was done WITHOUT permission from the other factions of the Qun, suggesting the factions are fracturing. We will definitely be seeing Qun/Tevinter war, but we also have hints that there is trouble within the Qun as a whole and it will be interesting to see how that plays out with the war.
We've also had advancement re: Weisshaupt with confirmation that ALL Wardens have been called there. I definitely think we will be visiting the fortress in DA4 and I don't think it will be fore a fluffy, happy celebration over the
return of the griffons.What lies on the other side of the Amaranthine ocean likely has to do with
Ghilan'nain and her Horror Pools and creations. I'm betting on this because the lone survivor (briefly) suffered in much the same way as the lone survivor (again, briefly) did in "Horror of Hormak.
No. 123250
>>123236I completely agree with you on that last point re:Amaranthine ocean. There is basically no change it's not
Ghilanain causing that shit imo.
It feels like there are way too many looming threats on the horizon, all seemingly of different nature. I hope they manage to juggle all these plot threads, seems so chaotic. Maybe they're all connected in more ways than we know now but then one runs the risk of it being all too convenient. Like all the problems had a singular source and it doubtless manifests in a big dragon or whatever that we can kill to end it. I hope it won't come to that again.
Maybe I'm alone in this but whenever Qunari shit comes up my eyes glaze over. They're so incredibly boring to me in all but aesthetics.
No. 123267
>>123264Iron Bull even says in DAI that Qunari may have been mixed with dragon blood in the past.
The two theories I like are that their predecessors (kossith) were either a Tevinter or ancient Elvhen (probably specifically Ghilly) experiment.
I was incredibly disappointed in the lack of companion dialogue for Descent. This was the first time anyone had seen a Titan in a kajillion years and no one really had much of anything to say. I am somewhat okay with Solas being so quiet because you KNOW his dumb ass knows more than he lets on and he has to keep it quiet for whatever reason. But everyone else? Come on, man. They should have been shitting Lyrium bricks.
No. 140480
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i would have loved a new dragon age game to get me through this pandemic. i tried replaying DAI as a 2h rogue but the combat is so ass in this game. i played mage first because it didn't feel floaty but the melee is pure suffering.
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>>141530dropped my fucking pic
No. 142206
>>141530until you mentioned itI thought they were the same person… I really like Jacks content and feel really bad for him.
I remember the fandom back in tumblr after DAI release, a lot of stupid funny drama, like the whole Solas is ace thing. Good old times.
No. 147580
Bumping this thread because Summer Game Fest is tomorrow and I hope we're going to have a DA4 title drop.
Placing all my money on some Twilight bs name like Eclipe or New Moon kek.
>>142206The fandom was always batshit crazy, I remember people freaking out during the DA2 era over either Anders or Fenris fans, accusing them of apologizing
abusive relationships or terrorism. Calm down you fucking retards, it's a video game
No. 415621
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It's 1 1/2 months till DA:TV release, so let's revive this thread.
Anyone listing to Vows and Vengeance? The story is very eh and that Dreyden character is definitely Solas in disguise, but I like that we get to hear the companion voice actors before release!
No. 415634
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Holy shit, didn't even know this thread existed. We are so back. Who's going to play DAV on day 1? I need to finally bury the body. Everything they show looks worse and worse, the character designs are almost Concord-levels of bad.
No. 415695
>>415634Morrigan's shoulder piece reminds me of roadkill…I cannot unsee it.
I'm going to buy it Day 1, because it's still one of my favourite game series, I would play it if it's DA2 2.0.
No. 415712
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>>415695Same
nonnie. Something about it looks repulsive. Everyone in general has really strange proportions, they're all bobble headed with tiny shoulders including the humans and qunari. I have no idea why they scrapped the entire DA:I visual identity, it was one of the redeeming features of that game. The way it looks now the game looks like Fortnite and it's going to bomb. They couldn't even model Morrigan's diadem around her head, it's just a pasted on PNG on top of her face.
No. 416147
>>415741Same it just looks so bad, I was taking the time to decide while I waited until they adjust for regional pricing but honestly this
>>415712 put me off, it looks so shit, the art is so ugly, everyone looks bloated like a corpse left in water, I mean just look at poor Morrigan, she looks like a caricature of the bullied nerd in an 80s movie and she has a beard shadow and a stupid double bra for some reason. Going from BG3's beautiful characters to this is giving me whiplash. Also the Lucanis' VA's spanish is so ass it's making me hate Lucanis even though I'd been hoping to have him as a romanceable companion since I read Tevinter Nights.
I'm definitely playing it because I owe it to myself from 10 years ago but I'm not paying one single stinky peso for it unless it somehow ends up being good. I'm so disappointed nonnies, I really hope the marketing is just awful and the actual game somehow is good? I really doubt it though.
No. 417556
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So this are the only choices that you can input about the Inquisitor. Just this 3 choices. Looking good, eh?
No. 424528
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no denuvo on the release day. no waiting for a crack nonnies. guess they knew it would have a hard time with sales given how many troons are involved kek
No. 424601
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>>415634wow really shows the improvement in graphics after 14 years kek. This game is gonna flop so hard.
No. 424633
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If I decide to play this I won't be paying for it. It's super ugly and the troon titty delete scars make no sense in a fantasy setting. I also hate how it doesn't look like a dark fantasy game at all. I have no idea who their target audience is anymore. Combat also looked bad with how it paused while making a skill choice. Also why does the grandpa necromancer companion look like a DisneyPixar villain? I just watched a trailer I had not seen before since Steam suggested DAV to me and picrel had me laughing so hard my cats got worried.
No. 424649
>>424639She is a lot like Karlach, even personality wise, they probably needed to find something to make her 'unique'.
I give them the benefit of the doubt and still hope, her quest is more like find the biggest dragon to slay and find out why qunari are the way they are.
So far Taash is my least favorite companion. She's Karlach in bad and less endearing.
No. 424678
>>424674She get's mostly sheher'ed in marketing material and dev also said sheher but they could be fucking with fans…
the achievements leaked and Taashs story achievement is theythem…so people start speculating again…that said, hardings achievement is also not gendered…well see… maybe we get to witness taash discovering she is not like other girls, how brave
No. 425350
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I'm glad someone revived this thread because I want to post salt without dealing with the annoying misogynist scrotes at /v/.
IMO this game is going to flop and this will be the last nail in Bioware's coffin. I don't think EA will let them make the ME sequel. I certainly hope they don't.
Everything about this game looks terrible. The shitty action combat with tanky boring enemies and flashy shit everywhere, the ugly troon art style, terrible facial animations, dialogue is often like a parody of millennial writing, even voice acting is weak compared to old Bioware standards. Every romancable male is ugly and the weird puppet proportions are distracting as hell. And it doesn't even feel like DA, the vibe is completely off.
>>424689It's confirmed that Taash and Harding have romance (if neither is romanced). And yes it sounds like pure troon fetish writing.
No. 427821
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fucking kek. what little previews i've seen of her are so inconsistent and whiny like they dropped her in the game from a twitter thread. i haven't seen anything about being able to choose companions but i hope i'm not stuck with her if i can't slap her around
No. 427834
>>427821Stunning and brave. And it's the slightly gender non confirming women, how progressive. Let's stick it to the incel gamers who ask for a hot qunari gf. I read that her quest also has interesting lore, hope that makes up for it.
I'm really disappointed.
No. 427839
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Kek I thought this was fake at first. What even is this game
No. 427856
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>>427839every other fucking screenshot I see is another low blow to the only fantasy rpg game I ever liked, and I have no friends to sperg about it. This breaks my fucking heart to pieces, I've been waiting for the new fucking dragon age for years and it turns out to be this woke pandering shit I'm so fucking mad
No. 427858
>The writing is, frankly, terminal. It lacks any nuance, wit or wisdom. It cannot communicate ideas, except to say them aloud to the camera. It manufactures petty, unbelievable tension because it doesn't know how to create anything more real, and it's too scared to ever be truly confronting or dark for fear that it might make the audience uncomfortable. Every interaction between the companions feels like HR is in the room, and every interaction led by the main character Rook sounds like he's addressing an under-12 soccer team before a semi-final or teaching toddlers to properly share toysMy expectations were low, but man this still feels bad. The character interactions are so bad. I thought the reviewer was exaggerating, but Rook literally sounds like a parent mediating between two toddlers when talking to the companions. It's so condescending.
>>427856I feel you
nonny. I love Dragon Age and it's just… 10 years, all for this?
No. 427859
>>427856I feel the same way. At this point I just hope that the game doesn't sell well and most fans reject it. I'll be so disappointed if this is a success and these annoying fucks are validated. And no doubt they will make a Mass Effect sequel that will be more of this crap, like how they've been pushing hard to change the Asari from all-female species to some they/them troon race.
>>427834>Let's stick it to the incel gamers who ask for a hot qunari gf.This mentality is seriously ruining media. It's cutting your own nose off to spite your face. These woke creators would rather nobody have fun than make anything that might possibly be enjoyed by "
problematic" people for the wrong reasons.
>>427858The clips shown in that review make the writing seem aimed at toddlers. Which is the emotional age of the average tumblr/twitter DA fan I guess.
No. 427942
>>427858I've seen this complaint about Rook often, that their writing is ok at best (tho some say it's the best pc writing in the series) Apparently you cannot be as sarcastic as Hawke etc.
It's dragon age: play it safe (except for troon stuff, only Nazis would criticise that lol)
I also read that the Soundtrack lacks. Someone said the best moments where when they did callbacks to the inquisition ost.
No. 427943
>>427858the fact that you can't be an asshole or have fights with your party members is so pathetic. characters aren't allowed to have opinions or a personality because negativity is too scary and
triggering to 30 somethings with ADHD and minor childhood trauma. who gave the job to a lanky faggot who has never interacted with anyone outside his discord clique
No. 428283
>>428279I love woke sexism! Thank you non-binary dude.
At least we got Karlach.
No. 428289
>>428286Same nonna because God damn the misogyny pisses me off.
Dorian's arc in DAI
>Dad tries to conversion therapy Dorian out of gayness>at the climax, Dorian can reconcile or break ties with dadTaash's arc
>Taash's mom is kind of terfy/"mom doesn't get me" level conflict>at the climax, Taash's mom uses her preferred pronoun and diesHoly Mary Patrick Weekes' hatred of women is on display.
No. 428303
>>428293AFAIK if you don't do the companion side quests you're locked out of the good ending, so there's that.
>>428299Im so, so sorry. It's a nightmare.
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/dragon-age-the-dread-wolf-rises.50738/post-19694629 No. 428353
>>427821Rook look so uncomfortable kek
>Non-binaryCall it something different at least, that sounds so terribly modern
No. 428378
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>>428286I got you nona. I'm genuinely curious to see how normies will react to the game tomorrow
No. 428382
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Not buying until I get a terf mod
No. 428395
>>428378Holy shit I thought the description of this scene was a joke. I can't believe this is real. Every new thing I see of this game makes it somehow worse, it's like a parody. I can't wait for the game to be out and clueless normies to be exposed to this kek.
The way every single dialogue choice boils down to "you are HECKING
VALID" is so obvious. Why even have the wheel when every dialogue is the same? Even when the player in the video chooses an option that seems like it might be negative, it just ends up being another way to tell Taash what a stunning and brave dragon hunter xe is.
No. 428499
>>428492the writers themselves are like that, but they would not have been hired if not for DEI.
20 years ago bosses would not have hired a troon to make their game more "queer friendly" or write a scene about misgendering
No. 428506
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>>428303>It's mostly women that don't wanna be called dykes, had some form of childhood trauma/neglect, AND browsed social media and forum sites that other girls like them created.>It's a made up thing that they can feel special and can create their own expectations of what it means. They don't feel like they are what a woman (or a man) should be so they choose to be something that most people have no idea what it is so they have no expectations for.tfw kiwi scrotes make more sense than the supposed liberal friends I've known for more than a decade
>>428378God, I hope this peaks normies and clues them on the fact that trans goons want them to kowtow like this, no amount of "allyship" is ever enough
No. 428548
>>428378Kek, what did I just watch. It looks like fan made animation. Guess the former tumblr kids finally made it all the way and became DA writers
If any anons got the game, how's the combat? I read that your companions basically don't have hp therefore can't die and that you only give them basic commands like which attack to use?
No. 428578
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lol, which one of you nonnies wrote this?
Glad the truth is being revealed in the steam reviews. Annoyed how there are still more positive reviews than negative, but let's wait until the gamers get to the fun parts kek.
No. 428591
>>428578>writers identify as non-existentLol
Pirating this game right now btw. I want to see everything myself. But I suspect it wont be a fun dumpsterfire but a boring slog instead
No. 428604
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Yoooo I totally forgot this game released today hahahhahaha. Troonshit aside, how does it actually play, controls-wise? Still the same shitty, Frostbite tank controls or did they actually tighten them up? Is it worth pirating?
No. 428605
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>>428378A troon definitely wrote this dialogue. "Hnnnghhh the hottest woman in the whole series will not only compliment me looking prettier BUT she'll also want to sleep with me!!"
No. 428680
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Tfw even coomer TIMs are hating on this game
>inclusivity to BioWare means including gay and transgender men and discriminating everyone else
The delusion to think that they are discriminated against, as if both the game director and the lead writer weren't woman hating TIMs
No. 428707
>>428430>>428491I mean wasn’t this literally a thing with Qunari? In the first game Sten can’t wrap his head around a female protagonist who’s a fighter and I distinctly remember a dialogue between Iron Bull and Cassandra in Inquisition where Bull tells Cass that under the Qun Cass would be considered a pseudo-man because she’s a strong fighter. Based
terf Cassandra even calls it out for the sexist bullshit that it is. How did we get from that to whatever the fuck this is? Is this what a modern Qunari invasion looks like?
Solas was right. Tear that shit down and start over.
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>>428680This is already the second time I've seen a TIM complain about not being add massive boobs in the character creator.
No. 428761
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Going from Origins, where you can play as a female character and argue with or beat the shit out of people who are misogynistic to you…to Veilguard, where every conversation feels like a lecture on tranny bullshit and how much it sucks to be a woman. This is so jarring. This is not a Dragon Age game, the writing genuinely feels like a bunch of trannies from a subreddit inserted themselves into the dialogue.
Trying to act like being a woman is something automatically bad or a path to self-hatred is crazy. Dragon Age used to be full of interesting and complex female characters and now it's reduced to shit like this: an attentions-seeking Qunari rebel and the one scene where based Isabela is present she's forced to 'atone for her sins' for misgendering someone. Fuck this game. For a game series where a good percentage of the players were fangirls they sure do love to make you feel bad for being a woman and not a they/them or a tranny.
No. 428762
>>428738>Breast Development in Transwomen After 1 Year of Cross-Sex Hormone Therapy: Results of a Prospective Multicenter Study>The median age of the included transwomen was 28 years (range, 18 to 69). Mean breast-chest difference increased to 7.9 ± 3.1 cm after 1 year of CHT, mainly resulting in less than an AAA cup size (48.7%).They should have added a moobs slider then.
>>428761The good writers all left years ago.
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>>428766I haven't played ME, but for dragon age almost everything he wrote was either boring slop or cringe shit, like Krem's TIF adventures, bull's shifty BDSM preferences, cole's retard talk and ofc, the qunari thembie's whinings.
No. 428803
>>428775As a colefag I have to whiteknight and say that Patrick Weekes basically ignored and handwaved 99% of the interesting shit David Gaider already established for Cole back in Asunder. Gaider has his moments as a whiny queen but he was at least still pushing the dark part of DA's dark fantasy. Weekes made cole less violent, doesn't bring up his horrific backstory (not the templars, but his
abusive father and how he accidentally killed his sister), doesn't bring up his religious shame wrt being a mage, doesn't bring up anything about him being Orlesian and his mom being a former 'wild folk', and mysteriously forgets that Cole has shown he's attracted to women. It's honestly a microcosm of what happens in Veilguard with the writers vindictively not giving a shit about the other games so they can cram in more of their retardation.
No. 428822
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Even the top helpful "positive" reviews are roasting the game lmao. Also the discussions section has turned into a mud slinging zone
No. 428929
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Pisses me off to no end the amount of women-blaming this shit is getting. There's a fucking TRANNY at the helm of this shit and yet a good chunk of Youtubers are blaming women/female gamers for Veilguard being what it is. Now, I can understand the dislike of women like Kim Belair, or if there are a ton of female employees at Bioware who are batshit crazy or handmaidens to their dying breath, but come the fuck on. Women nowadays don't fucking want this slop; nobody does. And it's a lazy, bullshit argument to just pin the blame on us, as if we're all a fucking hivemind that wants to dismantle entertainment itself. Fuck's sakes, I've seen better female modders for Bioware games than I have for Bethesda games.
No. 429002
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in light of the current shit show, I decided to start playing da Inquisition again and just after a few minutes I instantly remembered how much Cassandra made me question my heterosexuality back when I first played the game. Bad thing you can't romance her if you play as a woman sigh
No. 429023
>>428998She is still active. And no, she didn't push for ugly characters. Moids screaming at us for the ugly characters doesn't make any sense. If the game was made for us, the male characters would be called gay because they would be pretty and not walled. We would be called pedophiles because apparently only boys can look pretty. The female characters have terrible outfits, if they were made for us, they would be called ugly too but also conservative, they wouldn't be walking around in bikinis. None of this is happening because the game was made by and for coomers who are trans. Men will always blame us because they are in the cult where the enemy is the powerful feminist is hired to create diversity. It's a fiction. Women don't want ugly female characters as much as men. They just want them to wear clothes adapted to the situation and not be sexualised every five seconds. We don't hate women like trans people.
>>429002I always make a male character to date her. She is so cute.
No. 429028
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So, there's some kind of "post-credits" type scene teasing the next villain and it reveals that all the events in the previous games were caused by these evil gods influencing characters like Loghain and Meredith.
What a trash twist that takes away all the depth from the previous games. Not that I will consider this canon, this entire game is bad fanfic to me and DA ended with Inquisition.
Also, apparently Varrick was dead all along and a ghost or zombie or something kek
No. 429032
so apparently this person was hired as a writer and queer consultant:
https://x.com/LaurakBuzzWhy did a game like this ever need a person like that helping?
No. 429038
>>429028>that first spoilerFor fuck’s sake I absolutely hate it when writers pull that shit. Oh no we can’t have complex flawed characters making decisions we disagree with, that’s too
problematic! They’re just misguided
by evil gods of evilness uwu. Plus,
retroactively blaming previous villain’s actions on the Final Villain is such a cheap way to pretend your story is more thought out than it really is.
>>429035This is why misogynistic moids love trans ideology so much. They can point at the worst specimens their sex has to offer and say “um those are women, akchully”
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>>429035I'm
>>428929, all the hate I saw was on Asmongold's stream, SmashJT, and, unsurprisingly, Kiwi Farms. Except I thought KF still had some normal men and women on there. Now it just feels like any /pol/ thread, what the fuck happened to that place? (Also, SmashJT's video made me laugh. While I agree with him on some points, what in the
fuck does being a lesbian have to do with making a game? And how are they the enemy of straight white men?)
>>429038Exactly. You can dress up a misogynist in troon clothing, but he'll still be a misogynist. I think that's why scrotes are pointing the finger harder at women than they are at troons, tims, whatever. Because they realize that, underneath the smelly, unwashed skin of the tranny, is a man with the same beliefs as them, and they can't stand that. And they can't stand the fact that female gamers are pushing back against years of criticism, harassment, and fingerpointing. I think Veilguard proved that very well. A tranny was the game director, not a woman. Also, fuck whoever came up with Varric being dead all along.
No. 429132
>>429023>female gamers don't want ugly female characters as much as male onesUm, no? Brogamers straight up think that every female character that doesn't give them boners has no right to exist (they share that sentiment towards irl women too). I am tired of female characters always having to be ~pretty~. Even if a female character isn't sexualised, she almost always has a pretty face, the same is not true for male characters. This is just unrealistic and immersion breaking. Funny how the very few female characters i can say are average/"ugly" are from DA series. But they exist next to some truly godawful waifus (morrigan, that wolf lady in origins, merril), so this is probably why they never got the incel ire directed at them.
>inb4 who wants to see ugly characters?This is why video games are not respected as a serious form of media.
No. 429154
>>429132Ugly as in poorly designed, not as in fuckable.
>>429137Apparently the writing is bad. Let's hope that some talented fans make mods with improved and new dialogues. This game needs so many mods to be truly enjoyable. It's a shame.
>>429153This.
No. 429163
>>429154iirc isn't this game made on the Frostbite engine? If so, I wouldn't count on mods. Frostbite is very difficult to mod, the toolsets are simply not very developed. Games like Skyrim and the Sims are made to be easy to mod. Games like Mass Effect and Resident Evil aren't but the games are so beloved and the modders so extremely dedicated that they built the tools where none existed. Veilguard is not only built on an engine that is not built for modding, it is difficult to mod where able and the game isn't very good. I would not expect dialog or story mods for this. For reference, Mass Effect Andromeda is made with the same engine and all these years later no one has been able to figure out how to replace or add dialog. Fans would be better off collaborating to make small fangames.
It's over,
nonnie.
No. 429182
Same anon as
>>429137I played a bit more now. The writing is quite bad so far but in a fun way, I'm enjoying the shitshow. I do love the new character creator unironically, it's possible to make really cool faces although the bodies are very strange. I was happy to be able to create my old inky and retcon her story a little bit to my liking as well, curious to see when she will make her cameo. I'm sure it'll be retarded.
No. 429244
>>429238I can’t watch the video right now, and I don’t remember anything about liches in DA lore. Are these DA liches anything like traditional liches or are they just using the name? Because I don’t think I’ve ever seen a portrayal of a lich where it’s meant to be a good thing. Unless they were tricked into it, they’re almost invariably egomaniacs with delusions of grandeur who believe themselves to be above nature itself and are willing to risk their own physical and mental health and usually the lives or souls of others to achieve something inherently selfish and unnatural. Even sympathetic liches are usually portrayed as having done something severely fucked up, and what makes them sympathetic is that they did it for selfless reasons.
In any case it sounds like an unintentionally hilarious trans analogy.
No. 429301
>>429137I'm playing a pirated copy of the game. The dialogue is not any worse than dai and the story/lore is very interesting so far. I haven't encountered any trans stuff yet you can probably easily ignore them by skipping dialogue and you won't miss out much.
The testerical man babies overreacted as usual. Just pirate the game and see for yourself.
No. 429307
I'm a few hours in and wanted to give my initial impression, obviously I can't judge for the whole game. I don't think the gameplay fits at all. It doesn't feel like DA, instead more like they wanted it to conform to the generic AAA slop combat. I don't even hate that type of combat, but it doesn't feel right. Reviewers were right about it feeling very linear. It's like Bioware saw the criticism for how open the hinterlands in DAI was and did a complete 180. Everything feels like a maze of corridors and it's not like I want a completely open world but at least a little more openness would be nice. Also romance option wise this game feels very lackluster. I don't want to pull the
trigger too early as I haven't truly gotten to know them yet, but the first impressions aren't doing anything for me. Past games had at least one good option or someone for everyone, but despite all of them being playersexual this time (speaking in terms of only the female LIs) we're stuck between a gendie, quirky chungus millennial, a dwarf and well Neve is there I guess. They're not attractive at all and out of what potential they could have, they just seem off despite the 10 year gap and development in graphics, and before the let female characters be ugly brigade starts, romanceable characters should be attractive. I managed to make my Rook look good so it's not an inherent flaw with the engine and game design. Playing it just made me miss origins and gave me the urge to replay it. I enjoyed DA2 and DAI despite the criticism of them and I hope I'll be able to enjoy DAV despite the troonshit but sometimes it really does feel like they know origins was their peak and whatever they'll release next will never measure up to it so they're content with releasing whatever.
>>429301I'm also not noticing any differences in dialogue so far, but do note I am retarded.
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>>429301For me dai writing was rather annoying in many places too. It had its good parts like Dorian and Cassandra's romance, and some iron bull banter (I spit on his daddydom romance though), but loonie elf-chan and stick up her ass vivienne always irritated me+gendie crap introduction through krem. I also sabotaged myself like a dumbass by trying to romance Blackwall, talking to him was as fun as watching paint dry kek. In the end I dropped the game because the overreacting plot was tiring me out for some reason
No. 429319
>>429313You can be antagonistic towards solas when you first meet him and he will remember it and be snarky when you ask for his help later. You can also blame scout harding for not shooting Solas in time to prevent him from doing his ritual and leave a guy to be eaten by wolves as punishment for betraying his town.
I'm still early in the game so I don't know if they will be more options like that. The dialogue options are pretty much like in dai.
I also don't get why they accuse the game of not being dark enough when one of the first places you go to is a town filled with corpses and people being tortured by tentacle monsters.
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>>429238>mustachioed ambiguously brown necromancer guySo he's basically just Dorian but transkeleton instead of gay?
No. 429434
>>429364>so is there anyone fuckable in the party? at all?No. The male companions are spineless effeminate fags who look like they're about to preach about
toxic masculinity. The women are either terribly voice acted, mentally retarded or self-hating non-binary fags who make it their entire personality. The only one who's even slightly romanceable is Harding because she's cute. There's no silly and charming handsome Alistair or Cullen equivalent in this game. There's no rivalmance/angsty Fenris equivalent in this game, or there's no nice and normal Josephine or Leliana equivalent in this game. They're all so shit, poorly-written, one-dimensional and embarrassing to be around.
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>>429480He's the sluttiest guy in the entire Dragon Age universe, dude, I'll always love him for the way he dresses. (Although, honestly, I wish they brought back Sebastian Vael, but with a fuller hairline.)
No. 429526
>>429523My heart aches for u, accidental TIF/thembie
nonnie.
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>>429811Those people must be mega new to the game because that entire conversation with Sten from Origins proves otherwise. What a bunch of retards. The Qunari are extremely conservative to the point where many of them believe that women shouldn't be allowed to fight and yet all it took was this disgusting porn-addled scrote's muscle mommy Taash self-insert to break years of lore surrounding the Qunari. Non-binary retards should not be allowed to work on video games beyond serving the other competent staff members tea and coffee.
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Samefag from above and I'm not sure if this has been posted here on LC already but this is a note from Veilguard. This is actually in the game, by the way. Keep in mind the terms non binary or trans or dysphoria or anything like this have NEVER been mentioned in previous DA games before. At least Krem in Inquisition made up some sort of cultural term for being transgender, but Veilguard doesn't care about being subtle anymore. Yet they'll tell you they aren't pushing an agenda, apparently.
No. 430121
>>430118>>430119If their goal is to make trannies look like drooling retards it's working because no normal person will look at this babbling and take them seriously. It's hilarious how many terminally online catchphrases they've shoved in so everyone can see plainly how little sense this makes in Thedas.
>TWANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN>YOU ARE VALIDAll they're missing is some shit about cracking eggs, neopronouns and not needing dysphoria to be trans.
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Nonnies I feel fucking sick…This is what they did to Dorian? Holy fuck they fucking destroyed him. The games industry is so corrupt and hates attractive men, I'm absolutely disgusted. At least every single DA title so far had at least one conventionally attractive male for every taste, maybe even several, and now this? I hate nuBioware trannies I hope EA takes them out back and puts them out of their misery. I really hope I don't see Fenris or I will kms. Though the tranny director doesn't even know who Zevran is so maybe there's a silver lining here.
No. 430746
>>430680kek, thanks veilguard, I hope all "cis allies" that have more than 0.1 miligrams of brains peak after being preached at and told that they are
problematic unless they kowtow after every mistake
No. 430860
I finished Veilguard and yeah, this might be my least favourite DA part.
What I liked:
- Gameplay was fine
- Loved the environments
- Solas and the conclusion of the solavellan romance
- some Companions (Davrin,Neve, Harding, Emmrich and Lucanis), Neves Companion Quest was boring tho.
- Some NPCs (loved all the crows, mythal)
- some lore bits and bobs made me very happy
- you can make okish looking qunari
What I disliked:
- the writing for Rook??? why give the player the answer to be e.g. purple rook….if all answers are basically the same? Mildly encouraging?
- shoehorning in modern queer stuff…unlike other I don't mind trannies or enbys, as long as it's done creatively and world appropriate…but this wasn't it at all?? Like the cutscene with Trash and Neve where Trash is basically women=dress??? I cringed so hard… and you can't even give opposition to that statement or say yeah woman can do anything…you know, the status quo off Thedas till Veilguard…also I hated that they NBed the butch lesbian coded character…
- I'm torn on that one (I like her), but Eplers quirky ADHD self insert
- the villains were so bland?? I always loved Evanuris lore but we got basically nothing? Especially on Ghila'nain and Elgar'nan? They were also only cartoon villains? So much wasted potential!
- woke lords of fortune…they are no thieves, they give cultural stuff back! Isabella had to do a lot of DEI training
- all companion and factions are so sanitized? We used to have literal terrorist and characters whose opinions where in universe problematic and now everyone is just bland? No real conflicts? Only Trash who is angry for no reason. Tevinter is a slave owning society without slaves around…Crows are now nice neighbourhood vigilantes. Very very disappointing. But I saw also pro gendie fans complaining, so there's that.
- the inquisitor was kinda useless, it felt like they only added them for solavellan conclusion. The other Cameos where also lame.
- rip south Thedas
- i hate the dragon age illuminati…I was so excited to see what up with the executors but this is shit
No. 431101
>>430579When I saw him I couldn't believe it and thought surely it had to be some other
Dorian. It's not convincing at all that a fag like him would let himself look like that.
I had to search up which characters had cameos after seeing him and thankfully it's no more than the ones we already know. >>430860>rip south ThedasThis is a good thing actually. I'm so glad they finally let us out of Ferelden. Although I do think they could have put more effort into the city designs because some parts of the cities look very similar like they just reused it.
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>>430579They fucked his shit up so bad it's not even funny. Like it's not even close to how funny it was when they messed up Zevran in DA2. This is just abhorrent and uncanny valley and strange. I actually really liked Dorian's style and story and this is saying a lot considering I usually find male fags in games really annoying. Now he's just ugly.
>I really hope I don't see Fenris or I will kmsI think I read somewhere that they're not doing DLC for Veilguard so hopefully that means they'll keep their fat sausage fingers away from our gracious kings Fenris and Alistair. There's absolutely no excuse for a game that came out a decade after Inquisition to look THIS disgusting.
No. 431265
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>>431101It's one thing if we simply got to play in places out of southern thedas, but literally announcing that it's all lost to darkspawn? Every character we loved from origins and da2 are either dead or homeless? Wtf is that shit, it seems like the writers of DAI outright hate the writers of the previous games and went out of their way to ruin the established setting as much as possible. It's reached a point that even the super woke redditors are hating on it, picrel is top comment
https://www.reddit.com/r/DragonageOrigins/comments/1gg41xm/dragon_age_the_veilguard_megathread/ No. 431276
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If you wonder why they are putting woke garbage into games despite that making them guaranteed money sinks, its because it doesn't matter if the games sell well. BlackRock own a large percentage of EA stocks, and the owner of BlackRock is on a mission to re-educate the masses, so he'll fund it even if it means poor sales and the games being hated by the majority of players. So there is no risk of the investors pulling out if the games do poorly due to wokeism, the investors are the ones putting the wokeism into the games and not caring if it does poorly bc its just a drop in the bucket for them
No. 431328
people already started datamining the games and there are traces that at some point they considered adding more choices.
Found this on Isabela:
*Well-aged but perfectly maintained warrior gear for close and brutal fighting.
Two possible appearances, depending on how the player resolves her past:
- Dark black dyed hair
- Red hair with streaks of grey*
I wish they went with this… I'm curious what else gets revealed.
>>431265Dragon Age can just die with Veilguard…I don't even want to know what comes next…everything I love about the series is gone…I don't want bland, political correct fantasy slob.
I'm reading threads in the Bioware Fan Forum and they are also suprisingly based (and 'misgender' Taash all the time lol)
No. 431407
>>431405yeah… the only time that bikini looked cute and fitting was on Seer Rowan…
looking at the artbook, they skipped on all the cool Lord of Fortune designs.
You also get a bikini as Hero of the Veilguard Armor if you help Taash embrace her Revaini identity…so dresses are bad but bikini is nb empowerment…
No. 431437
>>431328I’ve been reading smaller DA Reddit subs (I know, I know) and it’s so satisfying to see so many people blatantly disregard both Taash and Weekes’ special pronouns, even after being ‘corrected’ through friendly reminders UwU. A lot of people are calling Taash a whiny self-centred teenager and calling out Weekes for using her personal quest to write a self-indulgent self-insert wish fulfilment fantasy that clashes horribly with the setting. Funnily enough some of these commenters also think the writing is an offensive caricature of ‘real’ nonbinary people who like totally would never act like that in real life. No, love, this is what you all sound like. They’re just upset because it isn’t being received well lmao
>>431413>>431418It’s so hard for me to believe that the same person who wrote Solas in DA:I and Trespasser is responsible for Taash. Gender brainrot is real and should be studied by neurologists as the neurodegenerative disorder that it is.
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>>431437some wrote this on the BSN forum and I couldn't agree more. It made me furious when I had to endure this shit.
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Post your Rooks and Quizzies nonnies, let's try to lighten up the mood a bit. The game is awful but at least I managed to make my Rook and my Quizzie look really good. I just stare at them the whole time while the dialogue and story slowly saps my IQ, makes the whole experience more bearable.
No. 431623
>>431606I have the artbook and yes, it's really sad to see! I would love to see what a fucked of society Tevinter is…instead we got nothing… they should have scrapped some of the locations (e.g. Rivain) and give us more of Tevinter. And spend more time on Rivain in another game.
I wish we would have gotten Joplin…thank for nothing EA
No. 431624
>>431606>This doesn’t feel like a love letter to the fans—it feels more like a hate letter to the original creators and the people who loved the first games.I think you hit the nail on the head
nonnie. I feel the same way, it's like they hate that fact that they had to take over what is "Dragon Age" instead of doing whatever they wanted and are incredibly resentful of the fact as well as of the long time fans of the series. Seriously think about it, what kind of game director of the fourth installment in a series doesn't know who the characters from the first game are? Only one that purposefully hasn't played it. This situation doesn't happen accidentally. In fact it happens all the time in Hollywood with directors adapting a source material for which they have open disdain and declare proudly to never have read or watched or played. nuBioware direction hates us and Veilguard is their gigantic fuck you to all of the dragon age series.
No. 431636
>>431624Ntayrt but I couldn't agree more. If you can't respect and honour the older games in the series, the dark fantasy setting and the lore, then you just don't deserve to make a new game in that same series. They speak about DA1 and 2 as if they're insanely aged, badly-written and unenjoyable when it couldn't be any further from the truth. None of the original writers that made Dragon Age so interesting and fun were on the team for Veilguard. They really are saying "If you enjoyed the dark fantasy RPG where choices mattered and the characters were complex - go fuck yourself, this is a Marvel-esque story about heroes and villains now."
I'm genuinely concerned for what they'll do to the new Mass Effect game coming out, too. That was a classic Bioware gem and this new team will ruin it. No doubt they'll try and pull a "So uh…I'm non-binary" to some ugly Asari character and make half of the game's content about validating her identity.
No. 431639
>>431636they said on the bsn forum that Michael Gamble seems not to be into that kind of wokie stuff…
and Mary DeMarle seems capable as narrative director…
I looks like DATV is not doing that well, so maybe EA also makes them tone down the woke stuff…
I still have hope we do not get she/they asari
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>No one likes being a woman
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>>430579Holy shit, I was unsure about whether I'd play Veilguard before, but now I definitely fucking won't. Whoever came up with this design needs to give up art and go work in a toll booth instead.
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The design for most of the characters are just fucking terrible. They nerfed Isabela (apparently women with naturally big chests don't exist anymore or something), we have a huge childish brutish Walmart version of Karlach, we have Dorian experiencing Tevinter Twink Blight, and they gave Morrigan a fuckass bob. I'm actually glad they didn't include any more character cameos because I might have honestly had a stroke.
They also completely cuckolded the Grey Wardens, a faction that's been exceptionally well-written since the first game and the books, and now they just barely exist anymore because instead most of our story needs to be focused on the power of friendship, top surgery scars and being forced to endorse some autistic Qunari they/them verbally abuse their own mother for the sake of ~diversity~.
>>431703This is a man with a wife and 2 kids iirc writing lines like this. "No one likes being a woman" but apparently this game doesn't have any propaganda at all? Why do scrotes think they can push ideas like woman=bad just because they're fat retards with blue hair? He looks like he belongs on a sex offender registry.
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Anybody else finding all the companions so unlikeable you can't even romance anybody? I don't know how they failed so spectacularly at one of the main things that made dragon age so famous. I feel almost forced to romance picrel, an absolutely disgusting and repulsive literally geriatric bargain bin Dorian, just because it's allegedly the only decent male romance in the game. What makes it even worse is that I actually work in an university for an old fuck of a professor.
Seriously, Davrin looks like a flaming giga-faggot but is actually a boring and arguably racist caricature of "tough black man becomes a single dad" and has no personality other than being strong (he literally admits it himself). Lucanis on the other hand is a manlet with male-pattern baldness and is an equally racist in my opinion nondescript vaguely brown Latino (because Italy-inspired Antiva is the same as Latin America, right?). He's a comically retarded version of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde with the carton villain demon possessing him and is, again, bargain bin Anders. Oh, also he couldn't care less about you. What an amazing cast of eligible bachelors, bravo BioWare.
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>>431867I mentioned earlier
>>>/m/431265 that the DAO old fans were almost universally reeing in r/DragonageOrigins, the comments were quite fun to read. r/DragonAge has a more mixed response, while r/DragonAgeVeilguard posters love to dickride the game.
There was also this article on forbes that made me chuckle, try giving it a read.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2024/10/31/dragon-age-the-veilguards-clumsy-preachy-political-messaging-does-more-harm-than-good/ No. 431881
>>431877i think Davrin is their best black male character ever. so much better than jaboc or liam and i cared more for him than i did for wyll.
Lucanis is ok, but they wasted a lot of the potential he had in tevinter nights.
Emmrich is my favorite, but as every companion, he lacks depth. His romance is fun, but very gimmicky
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>>431882His writer described him as a “bisexual disaster” (whatever that means) but from what I can tell, his whole personality is that he likes coffee a lot.
Also the demon he is possessed by is treated more like a naughty dog than a, well, a demon. Is there any narrative point to Spite being there or did they only add it to make the character seem more spicy? Justice/Vengeance was integral to both Anders’ character arc and the overarching plot whereas Spite is just kind of… there.
No. 431892
>>431703Ironic when Tshaa has two lines saying that dragons can only have queens and not kings.
>>431705Yes. Solas was never a great companion. I'm sorry.
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>>431878Samefag, just ran into this hilarious comment in a r/videogames post, reddit may be a cesspool but occasional funny shit like this makes me keep going back
https://www.reddit.com/r/videogames/comments/1gniwwj/dragon_age_the_veilguard_disappointed_me_more/ No. 431898
>>431893Courtney Woods left the company and Mary Kirby was laid off.
The only person that was "fired" was Matt Goldmann. I wonder what happened to him.
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Straight from the horse's mouth.
No. 432924
>>432552holy shit
nonny i feel you, I only played Inquisition, and I know most people disliked it, but I got so immersed in it (this was my first rpg) that it's difficult for me not to love it. I love that most of the story revolves around war and the menu theme still gives me chills even after all this years kek. I'm salty it doesn't run at 60fps on playstation.
No. 436169
>>436140at first, I did not even notice that they were using enby pronouns for this guy. how subversive, evil people can be non binary too.
Did anyone watch the anrgy joe review? if you have romanced taash, she dies and then talk to Isabela before the last battle, she will 'misgender' Taash. so even bioware can't get their pronouns straight.
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I hate Veilguard so much. Suicide is imminent. Kill BioWare tranny devs. Fuck this era of souless slop IP.
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>>436545You are right. My only solace is being able to visit /dag/ again, it really takes me back to 2014. It's kind of sad getting confirmation for these decade-long theories in a game that doesn't give a single shit about the role of the games though. Reading David Gaider's retrospectives on bluesky just fills me with such immense sadness, EA corpos have fuck for brains to not realise that people are more important than IP.
No. 436590
>>436582Reading Gaiders post made me sick, they ruined everything.
Side note, we wouldn't get characters like Shale these days, without some trannie shit at least. Love my pigeon hating wife.
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Just finished Veilshart. My god it was such a pain in the ass to play throughout this month, I could only stomach it in little doses. Overall my rating is 2/10, 1 point for lore confirmations (certaintly written since long ago, before Gaider left) and 1 point for Emmrich, he was the most alright and his quest was the most well written (not as if the standards were very high) and made me semi-smile. Hezenkoss was kinda fun for Disney-style female villain. I never romanced Solas so I don't have skin in the game when it comes to Solavellan, which made me regret not having done it back when I played Inquisition as maybe I would have given a shit about anything that was going on. My quizzy looked mega cute though. So glad I don't have to tolerate this awful fanfiction of my favorite series anymore. It was the worst thing I've ever played and it almost made me shed tears of rage. Rest in piece Dragon Age, a gigantic fuck you to all of EA corpos and nonbinary tranny devs. Hope BioWare gets shut down by the end of the year as it should have been. Thank you for listening.
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>>436665>Is the game as ugly and stiff as I'm seeing it?It is all of that and worse. All the maps are MMO corridors consisting of useless loot and the same 3 kinds of assets that are constantly reused: ruins, elven ruins, and blighted ruins. The dialogue is cringe-inducing and sounds like it was written by chatGPT. Every character is old and ugly and animated extremely bizarrely, and the voice direction is awful. Only Solas does a good job probably because he was coached by an actual good voice director in the last game. In fact I suspect they didn't even have voice acting direction at all. The dialogue is also extremely repetitive and beats you over the head with stuff like you're a fucking toddler - this is Dragon Age: pre-school edition, I have no idea why the game has an R18 rating, I couldn't even tell someone to fuck off and die.
They also retconned a bunch of stuff that happened not only in the other games but IN Veilshart itself and just completely forgot about it halfway through, so there's a lot of obvious cut content (what's the problem BioWare, not enough time??). In many ways the game is almost totally unfinished and at a 60+ hour completionist run, I'd say a whooping 75% of it was mindless filler content worse than Assassin's Creed. And check out the final line after the credits: fucking "Starlord's story will continue"-tier shit. I laughed out loud when I saw it, what a way to add insult to injury.
>What was most jarring/infuriating to see for you?I'd love to say everything since I'm a die hard Dragon Age fan and I've been for over a decade. What really takes the cake for me is how they
annihilated southern Thedas in a single line and basically told you everyone you love from the previous games is dead. They want to wipe the slate clean so they can reboot and do whatever the fuck they want with muh precious IP, without being tied down to the "baggage" that is established characters and lore created lovingly by people who left years ago or were brutally shacked just to make a line go up. I sincerely hate everyone with decision power who was involved in this to my core. And the worst part? One of the long-time devs who was shacked mercilessly tried to push the silver lining nonetheless and said on social media that she had put a lot of effort in one the characters and that she promised it would be good. Then EA goes and fucking cuts out probably everything that she wrote effectively making her seem like a liar.
I'm honestly incredibly upset after finishing the game, they managed to destroy the last bit of hope I didn't even know I had in my teeny, wizened heart. I knew it was going to be cringe and probably bad à la DA2 but I never thought that the story and the characters, the heart and soul of DA, would become complete and utter, intentional and malicious garbage.
No. 436734
>>436722the voice direction is so bad, especially on Taash and Neve. Taash bits are sometimes so bad, I cannot understand why they left it in. And Neve is Jessica Clark first VA job and it's very obvious that she needed a good voice direction to mitigate her lack of experience.
I really do not understand why they didn't cut some of the more useless factions like the LoF and rerouted those funds toward the romances, who were obviously cut. Or a custom model for Mythal.
People play DA games for the narrative and the characters, not the gameplay.
>>436603He's just reminiscent of the characters he wrote. It's on his bluesky and worth checking out.
No. 437295
>>436734Neve's voice acting gets a bit better further into the game imo. I think they tried to convey she's cold at first and slowly becomes warmer and shows more of her soft side as you get to know her but what ended up getting made is she's a robot at first and then she starts talking more like a human.
Taash's issue is more about the writing imo, her bluntness doesn't come across as poorly voiced, it's more that her personality is atrocious and the things she says are far too juvenile and hostile to everyone she's speaking to. There is a way to handle a feisty or rude character that endears her to the audience but with Taash they dropped the ball big time.
No. 437353
>>437295 Taash had some scenes where she was upset that sounded off imo
The issue with her writing probably boils down to that fact that nobody told Weekes what he's writing is unlikable shit. Apparently Gaider made him rewrite Solas because he was unlikable at first. But if your the lead writer and your wife is the lead editor, who's gonna say something. Even the woke fans hate him for Taash, calling Taash's quest racist and Weekes a settler(colonialist).
