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No. 142465
Back after a year break; this time in Rotterdam, Netherlands.
1st semi-final:
Tuesday, 18 May, 2021, 21:00 CEST
LIVESTREAM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRIHdPDt6ew2nd semi-final:
Thursday, 20 May, 2021, 21:00 CEST
LIVESTREAM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVICcSLIHCMFinal:
Saturday, 22 May, 2021, 21:00 CEST
No. 142469
Reminder that Russian's song lyrics are based for mocking country's mentality towards women to a point where church wants to ban the song, I am happy that a lot of English-speaking people like it!
Also, I am surprised that /ot/ thread got locked instead of moving it to /m/
If anyone needs to check it
>>>/ot/807181 No. 142476
>>142472It's against ~ trad values ~ and muh 'man hate' kek, the lyrics are awesome n simple, but there's really no hate, but its a church so
>>142475this website is shit, check
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/russkaya-zhenshchina-russian-woman.html-1 one. it even adds references to the fact that half of the russian families dont have a dad
No. 142477
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ESC HAS BEGUN
No. 142489
>>142486I like the song a lot!
Slovenia's singer is also gorgeous, deep voice scared me though lol
No. 142504
>>142503Yeah, it's kinda boring? Catchy but boring.
Damn that was off-key there
No. 142520
>>142518Why? Because of Nikki?
>>142514That make-up is so fucking ugly
No. 142550
>>142548I agree!
Tbh I'm sad that it was fully in English. Not unique kek
No. 142576
>>142574Me too!
But i just found out i can't vote cause my country isn't in the semi.fml
No. 142592
so many posts anons kek, i thought the thread got knucked forever, glad you made a new one
Please let Russia qualify, i love that woman…
Ireland was truly good, Israel as well.
What I didn't like was the outfits, some of them were really uninspiring, last edition did it better…
Btw, what about using cytube to watch the semis and chat? Haven't tried it but I know 4chan uses it. I don't know if you can watch directs tho.
>>142590agree
No. 142632
>>142577Anon I am fully convinced you are a time traveller
>>142593I don't get it either, Italy's had other better years. I don't care that much about what the public likes because it's very hit or miss, last year Norway won the public's vote and Hatari was among the fan favourites but they still didn't win.
Ukraine was everything I ever asked for from a Eurovision performance (eccentric, rave-y, not in English or broken Spanish). Kinda sad Australia didn't make it through, it was catchy and unique. Do you think it's partly because it was prerecorded?
No. 142676
>>142593Italy was super popular last Eurovision too, to the point that people were placing ridiculous bets because it had to be a sure thing.
Meanwhile, I totally forgot this was actually happening this year.
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>>142632Holy shit I didn't realize I got the predictions right one to one until you pointed it out
No. 142734
>>142632I think I get why Italy is so popular now; the singer is extremely charismatic and sings flawlessly. The band as a whole radiates charisma, pure skill and they have a magnetic stagepresence. You can't help but watch, they really draw people in. Their slick outfits and good looks obviously help too. If you compare that to the other Rock act, Finland, they're just another kinda scruffy angsty rock act that doesn't really stand apart in one way or another from so many other rock/metal/posthardcore bands.
Just my two cents though, maybe I'm way off lol.
No. 142745
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I'm so upset, this will surely weigh them down
I'm more than sure they won't win (my money's on Malta tbh) but it was still a really fun act…
No. 142749
>>142747It's Iceland
As far as I know, the two guys on the background (one of them tested positive, the other one quarantined with him in the hotel) weren't 100% essential to the performance but at the same time why choose to go live with 4 out of 6 members instead of showing the recording. I also think it's too late to substitute them, the costumes have the members' faces on them and I don't think substitutes would nail the choreography too quickly. There's also the problem that they've already rehearsed as a band and if one of them tested positive, I don't think they'd like to risk it
Regarding Australia I 100% agree, I think they would've made it to the final if the performance was live. I voted for Montaigne and was so surprised she didn't make it to the final, Australia usually ranks pretty high up.
No. 142751
https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision-top-3Bookmakers are currently predicting
1. Italy
2. Malta
3. France
From these three I hope Italy gets the win. It'd be refreshing to get a Rocksong win. And I also don't want Malta to get the win because it's the same concept as Netta's Not your toy from 2018. Why that snore of a song of France is there I do not know, maybe they benefit from the surprising lack of ballads and plasticness of all the popsongs.
>>142745Iceland's currently predicted 5th place, I wonder how not performing is going to affect their final placing. I think they'll still qualify for the finals though, mainly because the 2nd semi finals aren't as strong as the 1st semi. None of the strongest 3-4 contenders are performing tomorrow.
No. 142756
>>142755I didn't even realize they weren't there in person but the song was still underwhelming, so I don't think it mattered much.
Really wish Ukraine would win or at least make it to top 3, amazing song, definitely stands out.
No. 142757
>>142755I'd also add Azerbaijan to your list of no-brainer finalists, which leaves Australia competing for even fewer spots in the final.
Even so, I liked Montaigne and I think with the right staging she could've made it to the final
>>142751Let's just take a minute and appreciate how many songs from the top 5 are in the native language off the country competing. I'd love it if Italy won, not necessarily because I like this year's song that much, but because they deserve this win so much for constantly sending amazing songs in Italian every year. Malta isn't that bad either (I like it way more than Netta's Toy) but I feel like the concept is overdone
I hope Iceland won't get obliterated in the final, they seem like a fun bunch and regardless of their results ESC really boosted their popularity
No. 142770
>>142757Yeah, I think it's great there's a lot of native-language songs! I've looked it up and since 2000 we've only had 2(!!!!) songs exlusively in the artist's native language, everything else was in non-native English (including 2 partially English). I wonder if we're seeing a tentative trend back to native-language songs because of Portugal's overwhelming win from a few years ago.
I don't see Ukraine winning but I think she'll definitely place top 10, if not top 5.
No. 142786
>>142774im not even mad,she was the original icelandic troll entry
the booing though.i remember how she was made a huge deal in the news because ppl took her shit seriously.and then she was disqualified
No. 142792
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these are already a bit stale but im dumping them
No. 142812
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crush
No. 142963
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No. 143049
>>142801They were watching this on tv in my country just now (as a preview/intro before the semi starts) and these men go (dead serious) "This is what 20 years of feminism has brought us! This is women being women!" yuck yuck yuck
I hate that he deadass said we're women when we're displaying ourselves for men's eyes to feast on "This isn't acceptable here anymore because 'objectification', so it's great that we can still get this from eastern countries" yuck yuck. I was so right to hate this from the start.
No. 143064
>>143060YESSSSSS.
Anons, who are your favourites for this semi?
No. 143065
>>143060yess let's go I CAN FINALLY VOTE
>>143063i dont understand how Mata Hari qualified, I liked Tick-Tock way more.
No. 143073
This song is a snore.
>>143072 agreed, very irritating face
No. 143093
>>143087yess she looks gorgeous omg
i like this one, although it's not perfect
No. 143116
This one could've been fun if the vocals were cleaner.
>>143112>or himkek
No. 143120
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POLAND IS OUTTTTTTTTTT
No. 143188
>>143186or the drivers license singer
I do like this more than Portugal's Maroon 5 tribute song
No. 143197
this is fucking rad, they NEED to qualify
>>143195my sides
No. 143205
this one reminds me of Russia, but the bootleg version kek
>>143202true
No. 143230
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Denmark I judge thee to be OUT
No. 143238
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PREDICTION TIME.
1. San Marino
2. Greece
3. Iceland
4. Serbia
5. Albania
6. Portugal
7. Bulgaria
8. Finland
9. Switzerland
10. WILDCARD SPOT: Austria, Moldova or Denmark
No. 143277
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>>143274agreed, she's adorable
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No. 143289
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LET'S SEE WHO GOT IT RIGHT
No. 143314
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SEE YOU THIS SATURDAY!!!!!!!!!!!
No. 143316
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No. 143494
>>143461Yeah they're fucking cringey, especially the whole middlefinger thing, but they're still among the more enjoyable performances imo.
>>1434892nd semi was soooo weak, one after another went off-key or fell flat vocally or just gave a boring/outdated performance. Greece made it because she was among the few who didn't fail vocally and didn't give a snorefest of a performance (despite the awful greenscreen)
No. 143495
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>>143492i mean, good for you and good for her and the team. the most important thing is to have fun am i right
still sad about denmark and croatia tho No. 143498
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>>143489I don't get Greece's appeal, maybe some hardcore Eurovision fans watched that girl win Junior edition and voted for her a lot out of loyalty or sth like that?
Still, Greece was nowhere as surprising as a finalist as Moldova. I do like the song actually but god, that singer just couldn't do it, felt bad to watch her struggle with almost every note on stage. I cringe thinking I'll have to watch her do it again.
No. 143508
>>143498Moldovia chick
>didn't contribute to the composition>didn't contribute to the lyrics>can't sing the song she didn't writeI hate it when "artists" are given a stage just because they wanna be glam popstars, not because they're actually good at it or have got somthing valuable to contribute. In comparison, Finland is cringy but at least they did the composition and lyrics entirely by themselves ànd can perform it live with good vocals. Same goes for Georgia and Denmark (minus good vocals for Denmark tbh) and they both went out the door instead of this trash.
No. 143529
>>143518>>143518I got "Don't you ever dare to wear my Johnny Cash tshirt" stuck in my head.
Italy is excellent but I can't sing along!
No. 143653
Hoping one these wins tonight:
1. Italy
2. Ukraine
3. Switzerland
4. Belgium
5. Russia
>>143651Yeah, it'd be nice to have even more songs in the countries own languages next year.
No. 143662
>>143651>>143653I'm hoping for either Italy in hopes that'll inspire more rock-acts to go to Eurovision and diversify the contest and because a rock-win would be cool. Or Ukrain because that song's fire.
The finals are so open, I can totally see it happen that the majority of votes will get spread too thin over too many favorites which could potentionally allow an underdog to unexpectedly win. I think something similiar happened in 2011 when Azerbaijan took the surprise win
No. 143670
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>>143651>it will influence other countries on doing more cultural shit next yearFolk inspired music has been popular in Eurovision for ages now with few notable wins; here's an article covering some of them but in general this is not new and win will not make folk more popular as it already is- and going with folk inspired song pretty much guarantees you a spot in the final
https://eurovision.tv/story/history-of-folk-songs-in-eurovision>>143662>that'll inspire more rock-acts to go to EurovisionSince Lordi's win we get to see at least one heavier act (almost? I'm not sure) every year. It would be amazing to see Italy or Finland win because that would prove that there's a place for rock music winning without bizarre costumes but i sincerely doubt it will make it a more popular choice still as even though rock tends to go far, this is not what the "target audience" of Eurovision likes the most.
Now for predictions, I really really hope for Ukraine win, that song has everything for me, the folk, the fun, the visuals; but seeing finale performances order I think we may be seeing France win this year. Her simple but powerful song was placed between very strong, loud and lively performances, which will make her stand out a lot and grant her more votes for being unique; her vocals are excellent and reminiscent of Edith Piaf which is pretty much guaranteed to get her a very high score in jury voting as well. I think the song is good but but honestly would prefer something more lively to win, I guess we will see.
No. 143672
>>143576Ayrt you replied to and I actually like Finland's entry a lot, I just have a hard time believing they're serious. It's a fun nostalgic song for me since I used to be a cringy emo kid myself. I agree eurovision is supposed to be campy and fun but Blind Channel plays it so straight that I literally can't tell if they're taking the piss or if they actually consider themselves freaks living on the dark side.
That said I think they'll do pretty well, I hear they have a lot of fans all over europe and they definitely stand out from the other songs, that alone is usually enough to score some points.
No. 143680
>>143677samefag
>If you play Blind Channel backwards, it sounds like the Devil's music. But even worse, if you play it correctly, it sounds like Blind Channel.Made me kek
No. 143700
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How do you all feel about Malta's ads to vote for them? I hate it, I hope lots of people see those ads and someone else out of spite.
No. 143704
>>143691Oh wow, it's amazing she went through all that and can sing so well today.
>>143700Yeah that just reeks of desperation. Ugh.
No. 143721
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LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
No. 143726
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MY BOIS
No. 143733
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ew wtf
No. 143756
>>143752Lmaoooo
>>143753>not very memorableVery true
No. 143772
>>143764they are performing very early and their performance is not flashy enough, so I don't think they are going to be remembered
too bad, it's a really good song
No. 143777
I have a soft spot for russia lol
>>143776oh shite which one? share
No. 143780
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love her she's a bad bitch
No. 143795
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i mean isnt it qwuite obvious why she got picked.ESC TRYNNA BE WOKE AND CATER TO SJWS
https://dood.so/e/ea24kuysx6b29cq2fxfmnmay3lubjgdq No. 143797
>>143794did they do it on purpose kek?
Portugal is nice, but I don't think they are going to get a lot of votes
No. 143805
>>143803i agree, they always send unique songs!!
Serbia are the only Beyonces I like, their perfomance is really powerful
No. 143829
>>143821how could i forget
my favorite from 2011 was Greece tho
Greek singer was hot af
No. 143853
Oh no pancake sexuals
>>143850Yes, they got COVID recently, last week
No. 143868
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>>143837I only have these because I literally don't care about anyone else kek
No. 143882
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
No. 143897
>>143892Because it is!
>>143882…AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
No. 143904
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EVERY PSYCHO ON THE SCENE
No. 143931
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Bulgaria is just "teeheee I'm so grounded and so small and cute… but also I'm not like other girls… I don't care about looks hahaha… btw can you see how cute I am with this outfit… I'm so profound… and no I'm not offbrand billie eilish I swear
No. 143938
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omg lmaooo
No. 143942
>>143934who says I don't hate the bimbos too, she's just too fake
russian lady still wins, WINS
No. 143949
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me right now
No. 143955
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me right now
No. 143956
>>143949Same.
I think I have a crush on Ukraine lady she looks so cool.
No. 143957
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No. 143982
I don't get the hype for France. The song was a literal snoozefest and nothing special. Rooting for Cyprus and/or Finland kek
>>143973The Israeli girl looks like Ariana Grande if she was actually black
No. 143987
>>143983nooooooo anon my sides
this song is the one that plays on the radio when the guy rejects the female protagonist in those cheesy teen movies
No. 143995
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spot the woman
No. 144004
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YOU ARE MY BROCCOLIII
No. 144027
>>144025Hope so!
Still can't believe Sweden got in, didn't like their song at all
No. 144039
Sweden is Ok. But just Ok. Nothing else
>>144035anyone would had looked like shit next to Italy, at least they chose a mediocre one
No. 144058
I think it's perfect ending song
>>144051Yes, but it wasn't visible at all
No. 144061
>>144054BOOM BABY
you're right anon
No. 144065
>>144063I kek at
> Set me freeAnd Israel
No. 144072
>>144063>how hard will israel bombAnon umm
Are you all voting?? Support your faves!
No. 144074
>>144062They get artists from other countries. That's why they got Flo Rida there.
>>144070This, I remember reading that the contest would actually be held in Italy if San Marino won.
No. 144102
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NONNAS IM FUCKING HYPED WHO THE FUCK IS GONNA WIN????
No. 144110
>>144101there were a lot of snowflakes, there was a sjw who painted her face with the asexual flag or some shit kek
women cant have anything
love the song anyway
No. 144111
>>144105Afaik it's a GNC
>>144107I wish. Watching through YouTube
No. 144112
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POST YOUR TOP 5 PREDICTIONS
No. 144114
>>144112Italy
Switerzland
France
Iceland
Ukraine or Finland
No. 144120
>>144112In no particular order
Italy
France (unfortunately)
Malta (unfortunately)
Ukraine
Switzerland or Finland
No. 144128
>>144123man idk. probably not but then again i feel like their entry is kind of refreshing/interesting in the kind of way that it might gets votes despite the way jury votes usually go
>>144125uk anon here, every year i wish for the same thing
No. 144157
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the italian singer is too sexy, best part of the show
No. 144163
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>>144157>>144160The entire band is sexy. I'm weak for the bassplayer
No. 144203
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No. 144214
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France's song is so bad and Switzerland forgettable….
No. 144219
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>>144213He will, he did that line too fast.
No. 144226
how many times has UK been zero points/bottom? feels like it's always there kek
>>144219based af
No. 144285
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lmao caption this
No. 144296
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LET ITALY WIN PLEASEEEEE
No. 144307
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TRY NOT TO CRY
No. 144311
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No. 144317
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>43 points
No. 144325
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No. 144327
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No. 144334
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No. 144336
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No. 144337
>>144329IL CIELO
E' AZZURRO
SOPRA ROTTERDAM
No. 144339
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yaaaasss italy
this was a fun eurovision tbh and I'm pleasantly surprised that good acts got far.
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No. 144341
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ROCK AND ROLL NEVER DIES
No. 144343
Accusing Italy of cultural appropriation for doing a genre that is typically very Nordic. Congrats though
>>144328Right like I was bashing him earlier in here kek but when they kept filming his face… Yum
No. 144348
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No. 144357
>>144350Yeah i think I had
Too much pasta
No. 144362
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Lol
No. 144365
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Im here for the UK getting 0 points lmfao
No. 144370
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This is how it should have ended. This is what peak performance looks like
No. 144376
>>144370agree, that was my own top three in that exact order
i placed 5 online bets and won 4 of them so i just got 160 usd richer lmao thanks iceland and italy
No. 144387
>>144384can they be actually disqualified for that if someone starts complaining?
honestly they deserved to win also italy has won last time 30 years ago and they had shitty years with covid so i think this is a nice thing for their country and people overall
No. 144392
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they really need to remove jury votes kek
No. 144412
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>>144410I'm seething alright.
How can this fucking scandinaboo be so hot
No. 144414
>>144412>scandinaboo kek
if you refer to the name,his half-danish female guitarist proposed it
No. 144418
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>>144415damiano has done pole dancing the drummer is more reserved and serious
No. 144419
>>144413yeah i also thought he was gonna be at the top 10
>>144415 god yes he was hot lol
No. 144457
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No. 144531
>>144515 huge cope
it's like those brits who are convinced they got 0 points because of brexit
No. 144536
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And how salty are the UK and Germany about getting 0 points?
No. 144538
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Not me crying over Manizha's song because of how important it is for us. She even kneeled to all the women on a screen I —
(( Long blog post about society in Russia, that's not even all of it. I know some foreigners say that it's just a silly song, but it means A LOT to us, like our own tiny revolution. I am not telling everyone to read under spoiler text, but if you are curious, go ahead. I wanted to explain a bit! ))
Everyday in Russia, at least 22 women are getting murdered. Whenever there is a public news about it (or woman being a rape victim), everyone would shit on a victim, write petitions to stop the case and free said man, talking shit about a woman and threatening her on social medias, saying she should be the one in jail, etc. Websites and imageboards that doxx the shit out of random women are never banned and heavily encouraged, while Russia can put a woman to jail for reposting feminism-related pages. Yulia Tsvetkova Got 5 years in jail just for drawing BODY POSITIVE artworks with Adventure Time artstyle that caused no harm, but they said that it's "propoganda". Meanwhile, a pickme of russian television paid for the court to free a man who raped multiple little girls and kept them in a basement to do a "shocking interview" with him, where he literally SAID THAT HE WILL DO THAT AGAIN. And guess what? He is free and TV channels keep inviting him to do interviews!!
Domestic violence became so common that they just got rid of domestic abuse law 5 years ago and never looked back. The part "syn bez otca, doc bez otca" is translated as "son without a father, daughter without a father" which is a reference to the fact that HALF of the russian families don't have a father. Them leaving and never paying alimony is the most common thing to happen, to a point where court would never give a fuck no matter of the times you tried asking the court to do something about it.
On the other hand, if a man claims that he should stop paying alimony and sends the woman to court, they will make sure to torture you for the next years, calling with threats if you don't visit him in court (it's happening to my mother for 10 years now. Her ex who would keep beating her up even while she was pregnant keeps inviting her to court at least 5 times a year because he doesn't want to pay for alimony WHICH he never paid, but asking that she should give the money instead).
And even if you are in a relationship, marriage or not with a man, you are the only one who "stands up" and does something, fixes problems and whatnot, because men are so spoiled in this country that they don't give a shit about anything, acting like violent babies.
Russia also forces tradthot and patriarchy propoganda onto you ever since you are born; society convinced you that a man and a woman can't be friends, only lovers, but as a woman you also can't befriend women and express any likeness towards them, after all they are going to do nothing but steal your husband, they are also totally jealous bitches. And you should never think about getting an education, let alone A JOB (because that's considered to be unfeminine, ESPECIALLY having a job), because you are meant to be nothing but an incubator, who is waiting for her husband at home, making thousands of babies, doing nothing but cooking and household (all of this stuff should not be done by a man, because that's not a masculine thing to do!). You should also always look like the best sex doll to ever exist (but also look natural!), be a dateless virgin but also have to be good in bed and at dating. If a woman gets a job instead of focusing on finding "the one" and sit on his neck, that means she is a fuck up. Also, bisexuality and lesbianism is just a phase! They will always assume that you never met the right man, or suggest you to have a threesome.
You also should never speak out about being sexually assaulted, after all that's what you asked for and you should be grateful instead.
On TV and media, ever since I was born the only jokes that'd see would be about nothing but "a woman is dumb / woman is used for nothing but sexual appeal / I hate my wife / if you are not married that means you are a crazy cat lady".
I used to feel sorry for "right-wing trad" women from snow thread, but the more I lived the more I grown to hate all of this shit. People who are unironically obsessed with pandering to poltards are disgusting and they are privileged as hell, living sheltered, normal lives.
I am sorry for my horrible English, I am currently learning my 4th language, so I may end up writing in a poor grammar, since I am focused on a completely different language.
Also, Manizha keeps getting bullied by other russians and twitter bots because "she is so unfeminine" and she is an immigrant, after all they would rather prefer to listen to some blonde girl in a dress, singing some song about ~ how much she loves her man ~. People keep saying that her performance is the biggest disgrace in Eurovision history, when it really isn't.
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>>144532I'm Italian and I've never seen their italian fans do this tbh it's juts cringe teenagers on twitter. It's really trendy rn in italy for more "alternative" straight male singers to look and act gay on stage for shock value (picrel is an example), if anything maneskin are some of the least guilty of this
No. 144545
>>144538Dont apologize your english is fine! The song is so beautiful and i really hope one day Russia will become a less shitty country for women. I watched eurovision with my family and friends and we all loved Manizha's song!
>>144366I agree with you, i felt bad for Germany and the Netherlands getting 0 points. I liked them and sure they werent winners but they werent that bad either.
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>>144538I watched the Eurovision with my family too, and they shit on her performance for being too performative for wokepoints, while I couldn't catch half the things she said in her rap verses, so I had to check it out now. I don't know too much about Russia, but even being exposed to the shit they broadcast through satellite here, I can tell they're fucked up (talk show subjects, Men vs Women, TNT kanal's "jokes").
But I have to ask, what the fuck is going on in picrel? "Powerful female message? Let me get my anime bodypaint on".
No. 144554
>>144538Russia's crimes against women and sexual minorities are one of Europe's biggest disgraces (if not THE ONE). As a fellow europoor, I feel you, anon - even though Poland is not THAT bad yet, but looks like we are slowly getting there. Fuck this shit.
How did Manizha end up being chosen as representing Russia if so many people are angry about her? Kinda forgot Eurovision works nowadays, but weren't the viewers voting?
>>144551NTA but I think it's probably meant as a celebration of diversity of women
No. 144561
>>144551I sadly was confused over this weird-looking…whatever this thing is, but at the very least they also shown a radfem GNC (who was accused of being a troon earlier, it's just the way some GNCs portray themselves in Russia throughout this day). I checked one of the screenshots that had this person zoomed in on Instagram and it looked like a woman to me, just a weirdly creative one. But I wouldn't be surprised if it's some drag shit or whatever, because even though RadFem has always been the strongest feminism to exist in Russia, a lot of teenagers are brainwashing themselves with shit such as "meow/new" pronouns on Twitter and unironically giving names to "sexualities" that are:
-if you love a person ONLY if they don't love you back;
I don't remember the name of it but my bipolar friend ended up hanging out around these "made up this, made up that" people and she labels as this "sexuality".
I do not know if Manizha is RadFem, but by her big, long family story I would assume she is a RadFem, just not vocal about it, after all a lot of men in Russia beat the shit out of radical feminists and include themselves in libfem community just to stalk on radfems IRL. She is also a public figure, and a lot of people are trying to pander to whatever what's popular in richer countries right now.
>>144554As far as I know she just got chosen randomly by people who are looking for Eurovision singers. After all that's what kept happening in Russia at the very least. I am still genuinely surprised how they allowed her to sing it and do such "n-not traditional and feminine enough performance", but thankfully Europe loved it enough, even though our own Government was salty about it, calling her a clown etc. But let's also not forget that they could have used her as a way to get woke points, but by far that is the most genuine "woke" song I heard in Eurovision, that also remembering how she would sing only about women's problems in the past (domestic abuse song etc), she would also create events and participate in interviews in which she would call out beauty standards, and how women are forced to dress up like this, that, wear make up etc. (I think that's pretty basic, but in Russia you are considered to be a "greasy woman who doesn't take care of herself" if you don't wear any makeup.
No. 144568
>>144561>RadFem has always been the strongest feminism to exist in Russia100% based. I can't help but think that's Russian women have even more basic feminist issues to solve (as much as I hate the argument 'you don't need feminism, women in Saudi Arabia do but not you' which my opinion may kind of resemble). Are women in Russia less interested in buying amerifag bullshit? It seems to me like there is some historical basis for that, but I may be talking out of my ass LOL
>(I think that's pretty basic, but in Russia you are considered to be a "greasy woman who doesn't take care of herself" if you don't wear any makeup.Somehow it made me think of IC3PEAK's Грустная Сука (even though after double checking the lyrics, there is nothing about make-up there)
No. 144573
>>144568I honestly can't blame these people. After all russian media is so heavily censored and unknown to other countries, and whenever some foreign media is trying to write an article, they never fact check anything and throw whatever shit they found from the first person who tried writing something in English (one of the smallest example is how everyone were convinced that twitch.tv streamer who killed a prostitute live on stream was actually his gf, that's not even the worst part about his streams). I don't like it how people go "m-muh country has it worse!!" But I am also not a person to start the good old "who is the most miserable person in this room" contest. If I had to write a lot of things that people do not know about this country (it fucks both sexes up, but women have it ten times worse), that would take me a whole day.
Ameristuff is a difficult question now… Over the past three years, A LOT of kids and teenagers started staring at America, specifically it's Twitter side and claim American-only problems onto our country. There always were libfems, but the only thing they would do is passively-agressively claim that they are "empaths" and talk shit about radfems, but now it's much worse. You see, in our country whenever people discover English-speaking community, social media and such, they immidatley think that it's ten times better, cool and "right" compared to Russia, which is I think understandable, but it's ridiculous how people are screaming about a lot of things that don't happen or affect russian lgb and fem communities. A huge amount of trans people in Russia were FtMs for obvious reasons, from people who gave up on living such difficult life to fakeboi fujos, but now I am seeing a lot of MtFs. They would usually be anons from imageboards with obvious deep mental health issues, but slowly but steady I keep noticing weeb futa fetishists (eg they are in Lolita community now, but this community is a whole different story).
We used to have a stand up comedy man who would joke about "how stupid Americans are" for many years (more than 10). I always found that rude, but looking how some things are being handled in USA now, I keep feeling like he was right. I feel bad for Americans.
I feel horrible over how russian kids on twitter would scream about troon problems, when Russia has much deeper problems, after all it's a country where elderly people get such low pension that they can't even pay their own rent with it. Our minimum wage is the worst, even with "normal" wage you will struggle surviving, yet they keep increasing prices on everything.
I don't want to spam Eurovision thread with such negativity, so I think I will stop now if that's okay. I wanted to ask a question about Saudi Arabia the other day, because of a weird situation around my acquaintance if that's okay. Can I do that in ex-muslim thread? Thank you!
there is also a neighbour country which still has its own "forest brothers" (Nazis). They were unnoticeable for some time, but now russians who migrated are going back home, because they keep getting threatened to get murdered through social medias, mailboxes and such. People even started randomly killing russians "just because". Eg a russian woman who had two children turned on her washing machine, and an elderly (!) Neighbour didn't like the sound of that, so he just knocked on her door and shot her in her head. The worst part is how her russian family keeps begging said country to give them her children so they could raise them, but they refuse to. My friend been living there for awhile, but now he's going back because him and his wife keep getting death threats all over their mailbox for just being from Russia when they just work as a doctor and kindergarten teacher.That's it from me, at least for now. I don't want anons to feel sad about reading my posts, after all Eurovision is nothing but a cute contest that brings everyone together and creates a nice distraction from problems. I hope next year will turn out to be amazing, and COVID will stop messing everything up! Italy did a great job, along with other countries. My personal favourite is still Lithuania, there is something that I like about this genre, and they looked like charming, goofy adults. Very cute!
No. 144584
>>144377It's not as popular here as it seems to be in other countries but those who watch are obviously mad, those tv stations who finance the esc and who decide on which idiot to send are paid for by our taxes afterall.
Everything went worse after the statement they put out afterwards, literally claiming that the other european countries just didn't "understand" the song…and then the dude said that this actually isn't one of his better songs and that he already expected it to do badly. But he had fun and gained ig followers! wow how nice for you…
It's a combination of german boomers being incredibly arrogant (the commentor also kept putting down the other singers) and them trying to shill a fake woke agenda that only a tiny minority in Germany and Europe is interested in.
Many write that it refects nowadays society here: do bad but nevertheless pat your own ass, and always lecturing others, literally pointing a finger.
Supposedly he was elected out of over 100 artist by over 100 judges but the entire process is private, so it's more likely that he's just some good for nothing son of some tv boss…
After Russia we have the most inhabitants, there are so many bands here, it really shouldn't be so difficult to find a suitable actually talented and charisnatic act.
No. 144593
>>144591>kids are brainwashed into liking only the opposite sexYou're right and you should say it.
Lesbians here in North America often complain about comphet being fake but it's extremely prevalent in other places, and even in NA in some communities.
No. 144594
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EBU's official statement on the coke thing from Maneskin
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>>144594Also. Between him getting voluntarily tested and the broken glass story adding up, it sounds like he didn't snort coke after all, good for them.
No. 144599
>>144594It's laughable, really. If you look at the video you can see it's bs. Both fists are visible on the table, shaking. The table is too far from his nose. He only gets closer for a split second before getting back up. And with all the security, cams, people around, how would they even be allowed to openly bring and snort coke?
It's sore losers feeling the need to make up bs, and it's sad.
Take a better look
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Their reaction to winning was so wholesome.
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>Broccoli song
>united kingd0m
>0 votes x4 killstreak
>Malta seething
>coke conspiracy
>perfect balance between fun cringe and actual bangers
>Italy finally winning
Best ESC edition yet, by a landslide
No. 144661
>>142540That's very nice to say. It's a band thats been around for a while and they're pretty good. The two guys are assholes though, the girl is pretty chill. They've also switched singers a lot but now they're the original band again.
Not their best song imo, I'm okay with them not winning. (Look up "mad about you" if you want to hear them at their best)
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>>144621on Jodel (an anonymous social media app that works within a certain km radius) people were really fucking salty. Some were pure frothing at the mouth, talking about how Italy should be disqualified for the ''coke'' clip.
I liked Italy's performance, but most of all I'm just glad Switzerland didn't win. The singer's face and demeanor really pissed me off. His expressions when other countries flew past in points cracked me up.
No. 144748
>>144746My only win condition was for France not to win, so I'd have been fine with this kid-faced switzerlander winning, but Italy obviously blew out everyone, just because they had actual concert/video clip energy. I'd have hated France's performance less if they didn't even try to make the woman
look like Piaf.
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>>144737God the drummer is handsome
>>144746>The singer's face and demeanor really pissed me off.Lmao I can totally see why.
Tbh Switzerland wasn't one of the songs I wanted to win but it also wasn't on the "I might not watch out of spite next year if this wins"-list either (Malta was, god I fucking hate that faux-empowerment song so much).
>>144748I don't know what it is about something so mega ultra French that pisses me off so much but god France's entry was so irritating.
No. 144752
>>144548Im glad the singer took it so well, the singers from england and germany also took it well thankfully. I cant stand it when they cry because low placement lol. The hosting was very good imo, i liked that they didnt force any cringe jokes.
>>144641its cute, ofcourse it could be a publicity stunt but peoples say that now eurovision is over they want to try and date, i hope it works out for them.
>>144746At first i didnt mind if france or switzerland would win, but when i saw their faces when public votes came out i really wanted italy to win for their reaction.
>>144750Her reaction is kinda yikes, but also she is pretty young and probably thought she had a chance because of the bookmakers.
No. 144753
>>144661Rhythm Inside is my favourite entry from Belgium in recent years, it has made a lasting impression on me! It placed 4th which is really good but I wouldn't have minded seeing it win instead of Heroes. The vocals are great, the staging perfectly fits the song. And the song, well there's just something so distinctively
cool about this song and performance.
No. 144777
>>144753yess anon,I became a huge fan of Loic after the competition took place
seems like he's doing well these days.
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>>144851They acted pretty high during the press conference but I guess they were just drunk and high on life.
Btw his leg looks like upside down Italy No. 144858
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>>144856Did they? I assumed they were just Like That™, fits well with their alternative aesthetic. Also,
>spoilertruly an iconic moment
No. 144876
>>144863In my opinion he took defeat really well, of course he was sad but even speaking about potentially losing after jury scores were announced he said he's happy to get that professional acclaim and it's what has the greatest value to him. Looked up his bio and there's no info on him having any "special" heritage, he's just a talented kid; having good hair doesn't make him a spoiled brat.
Malta tho.. like other anon said, 50 shades of bitter. Sad to watch.
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he was def salty
No. 144920
>>144876You're just biased because Destiny is fat/not that good looking; he was far more douchey and his comments that the professional scores are all that mattered comes off as him saying he's the "real" winner. Like whe wasn't bad but he just wasn't that good or special.
At least France paired their basic bitch ballad with really good camera work and lighting choices rather than the boring shit other countries did.
No. 144988
>>144920> Malta kept giving a pouty, passive-aggresive look and it was obviously shown how pissed she is. Her entire song is calculated and pretentious as fuck, they even had to pay social medias during semi-finals and finals just to beg for televotes
> Y-you are fat shaming!!1
> professional scores are all that mattered comes off as him saying he's the "real" winner. It's not that deep…
I do not want to argue in Eurovision thread so I'll stop. I am sure that's some weird bait. Not even his fan because he is just genderbent version of France but you are weird as fuck.
Have you also seen Italy's finals reactions? Would you blame their lead singer for looking angry as hell, etc?
No. 144990
>>144916christ he has a punchable face. idk i dind't mind the song even though it was a basic ass ballad, he has a really good voice. something abt him just makes me seethe lmao
France's song was ok too and the performance and mood were good, it's just that it is…………….France.
No. 144994
>>144920>You're just biased because Destiny is fat/not that good lookingLmaoooo implying Swiss singer is good looking / not fat
Maltese girl is prettier than him, it has NOTHING to do with anything though
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>>144998I'm still so embarrassed about that one, everything about it was godawful.
No. 145029
>>144998It's kind of a guilty pleasure i can't hate it.falls under the weird Eurovision kitch. If it was tweaked it would be better
SAGAPO S A G A P OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
always nice to see greek anons heyy No. 145044
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This thread reaches 1200 posts in ~5 posts, would anyone be down for an Eurovision 2022 thread? It'd probably not be very interesting or active for the time being but then there's a place to discuss once preliminary rounds start and participants and songs get announced. JESC talk or anything about the American version of ESC could go in there too if anyone's interested in that.
Picrel is all countries that have already confirmed particpation for 2022.
No. 145529
>>144988I'm not saying anyone is fat shaming, it's just factually easier to hate someone that is uglier, which she is. She was dumb for getting her hopes up given her poor performance (feel bad for the dancers tbh cause all she did was stand there and do jazz hands while she sang), and her pouting came off less pretentious to me than the Swiss kid acting like he already won and also having some pissed off pouty looks and eyerolling and getting upset every time anyone else got points.
Italy looking rough is part of their whole 'vibe', not really the same. That'd be like saying Finland was rude for flipping the bird being part of their song/performance.