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No. 160853

Recommend books or ask for recommendations, share what you're currently reading or what you want to read, discuss favorite genres and authors, share reviews, etc.

What have you been reading, farmers?

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No. 160854

I've been trying to read The Haunting of Hill House for over a year now. I read the first half which was a bit of a struggle. I keep telling myself I'll finish it, but every time I start to read it I just get bored as hell. The audiobook is free on youtube but it's narrated by a man whereas the story is told from a woman's perspective which just kind of takes me out of the story. I told my parents I would read it and we could watch the show together but I'm thinking of giving up.

No. 160855

There's this version that is narrated by a woman, you could try to find it free somewhere

No. 160858

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Currently I'm reading the secret language of butterflies and the selfish gene. Also about a third through Charles Darwin's autobiography but I've been taking long breaks with it. Earlier this year I finished American psycho, gone girl, do androids dream of electric sheep and how to change your mind.
I really like reading non fiction but it usually takes me longer to get through, so I end up finishing more fiction titles. I wish I read more often but I'm still happy I've put aside the time to finish at least a few books this year!
I wonder if it's normal to forget books quickly after reading them? I love the experience of reading and being in the middle of a book but I feel like I hardly retain much of the contents afterward, like I can remember ideas that struck me, the tone and certain imagery I imagined but not much beyond that. Basically if I wanted to have a conversation about a certain book it would have to be right after I read it or else I probably wouldn't remember it enough to discuss it. Anyone else feel this way?

No. 160859

OT but that pic is so cute! Wish I had it when I made the thread lol

No. 160872

I definitely get what you mean, I found that taking screenshots (for ebooks) has helped me memorise the parts I want to remember (or just taking pictures of the pages/bookmarking for physical books)
Also since I started a Goodreads account I love to catalogue my books and read the reviews by other people in order to get somewhat of a conversation/opinion about the books I've read.

No. 160881

awesome, thank you

No. 160886

i feel this way too. i started a book diary, in which i just write the title, author, start and finish date of the book and then write a page of my thoughts/feelings about the book. idk if it helps though. it might also be that i just read too much (i'm on book 50 for this year and i started reading avidly at the end of march/beginning of april this year). or maybe some books are more like mental fast food than others.

No. 160892

Now I want to get a cute notebook and do this too

No. 160893

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I know a lot of people in these threads aren't fans of young adult novels, and usually I'm not either. But damn, this book really speaks to my cringe, younger self. Only about 25% through but would recommend if you want a book about a dorky introverted college girl.

No. 160894

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Oh my god, it's by that bitch who only writes cringe ya about fangirls or hot yaoi bois. i cannot imagine being a grown woman skilled enough to be an author and write this drivel.
Having said that, enjoy your book, anon. Nothing against you, but my reaction is visceral.

No. 160895

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I've one ever read one of her comics, Pumpkinheads its about a really fat girl who gets pairs with a handsome male MC

No. 160896

slightly related to this, but i absolutely hate this development of fanfiction becoming literature. i don't know how to explain it better, but sometimes i see descriptions of ya books and i just know it's written by someone obsessed with (writing) fanfiction. the couple/love story always just seems so conveniently perfect for each other and like a tumblr headcanon post. the other day i saw the synopsis of 'a touch of darkness' and i just cringed because it was oozing tumblr roleplay aesthetics.

No. 160899

Please recommend me fiction books about witches

No. 160900

I'm reading the Hunger Games and I'm halfway through the third book and it's taking me so long I can't wait to be done with it to start reading something else.
I liked the first two, read them in less than a week, though the second gets a bit boring at times, but this one is taking me a while because some parts get so tiresome that I just skim through it, regret, go back to properly read it just in case I missed something important, but the only things I'm missing is Katniss overly dramatic internal monologue that she keeps repeating and repeating, giving me nothing of value.
I'm starting to dislike her. She has no personality, or at least none that I can feel, if that makes any sense. She doesn't feel like growing, just the exact same person she was in the first book. Feels like nothing about her changed even though everything changed in her life.
I guess I'm too far in the book to expect anything to change now.

No. 160902

I know. There is a local (Polish) author that is like this and she writes bullshit YA about a girl who discovers she's trans or an enby because she's always been a tomboy or something. Of course she's being praised to high heavens.
OP of >>160894 to be clear. I'm conflicted about voicing my hatred for this type of shit because I know that girls and women hardly get media pandering to them (I remember watching My Mad Fat Diary years ago and rolling my eyes at how people were outraged that the heroine gets a realistically attractive guy in love with her), while scrotes get bashed in the head with 'your personality is all that matters!!! you DESERVE a supermodel gf throwing herself at your feet!!'. But I personally really dislike the post-fanfiction writing.

No. 160913

I totally get it chief, the work is definitely very tumblr-esque, but it's also like junk food for my brain. Sometimes my brain needs a breather from "good" or "high" literature.

No. 160929

Those dudes looks like a mix of Kylux, Newt Scamander, Doctor Who and Highlander lol definitely screams of fanfic

No. 160939

Anne Rice - Lives of the Mayfair Witches

No. 160943

IDK, the third book also was a boring read to me - I'm not sure how much that was intended, to 'subvert expectations' and hit the reader in the head with how miserable the war is. Katniss is clearly traumatized there though, so I wouldn't say she has no development/personality

No. 160946

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Does anyone read Neil Gaiman? I read 2 children's books by him (Coraline and The Ocean At the End of the Lane) and was quite happy with them. I thought I liked him as an author. Cute whimsical childish writing with a hint of horror.

However, I read some adult oriented works by him (Neverwhere and now going through Stardust) and it made me lose a lot of respect for him. Manic pixie dream girls, awkward sex scenes, boring doormat male protagonists. Why is it like this?

No. 160949

Now that you put it like that, I realise I feel the same way. I haven't read that many of his books, but yeah the children ones were better, either way I think he is at his best writing comic books

No. 160963

he wrote some cool shit (mostly coraline), but he's a cow, a gross male libfem (he wrote an essay defending the right to own lolicon) and also wrote coomer shit. I'm still haunted by the short story about a gargoyle created to keep the male protagonists's heart safe (?) using clay and his sperm. Gross!

No. 160980

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I think I would have agreed with this disdain a couple of years ago, but now, tbh, I think it's ridiculous. What about any of this is cringe? Men write about geeky teen protagonists based on their young selves all the fucking time. Fandom and fanfiction are a big part of a lot of young girls' lives. What exactly makes us so uncomfortable with art that reflects that, and is aimed at those same young girls? What is actually, specifically "cringe" about that? Why don't men feel embarrassed when their most earnest, dorky high school shit is looked at, even though it's a lot more gross, violent, and creepy?

I'm not a big YA person, and I actually do find myself irritated now and then by authors who "feel" fanfic-y. But I read Fangirl years back, and it was a charming, breezy college romance about a girl who is like a whole lot of real world girls. Carry On bored me, because I don't find gay male romances interesting, but it was a solid little fantasy story with an interesting origin. What makes it drivel? That we know yaoi/slash/whatever is something a lot of girls find hot? That the boys are depicted as attractive? We are literally constantly living in the fetid cave of What Men Find Hot. And Carry On writes its characters with 500% more care and thoughtfulness than almost any male authors give the women they create. Who cares if these female authors are coming from yaoi fandom? Literally every man working in any kind of genre fiction spent his formative years huffing balloon-titted bro shit that is one thousand times worse in literally every respect.

I can't speak for everyone, but honestly, when I sit down and examine my "ugh fanfic/fandom-centered lit (especially ya lit)" reaction, I can't find a lot of decent basis for it that isn't just internalized embarrassment over liking cringe girl shit that is only cringe because it has nothing to do with irl men and is incredibly, nakedly earnest. Some of these books are poorly written, I'm sure. And I think a lot of like, attempts to "legitimize" fandom are stupid (as in, everything Aja Romano writes). But those are separate conversations.

Also, jfc, the Pumpkinheads girl looks fine. And women could churn out a pile of books pairing female characters who aren't conventionally attractive with hot dude mcs every day for a hundred years and not come close to the male equivalent. Who fucking cares if a fat girl reads this and enjoys it? Does it make you feel better to know that irl men are definitely going to keep making her feel like shit?

No. 160981

I'm OP who posted about reading Fangirl, and I think these are actually some great points.

I still think the protagonist of Fangirl is "cringe" (she's nice but socially awkward, afraid of drinking/party culture/growing up, prone to emotional outbursts and feeling excluded, likes yaoi) but that's why I find it refreshing right now.

I think it's great that a lot of female authors are writing cool, powerful, effortly badass heroines, but it's a breath of a fresh air to read about a protagonist who's just NOT cool (and hasn't done anything particularly Mary-Sue at this point in the book, aside from talking to 2 attractive boys.)

She spends a lot of time moping around in her dorm while everyone goes out to party or overanalyzing social interactions with other people, but damn, if that wasn't me at many points in my life. It feels nice to see it expressed in words.

It's not "high literature" but it still strikes something in me that many authors wouldn't be able to. I can still 100% understand that it won't be everyone's cup of tea.

No. 160985

I haven't read those books but I love this post anyway, well said anon.
>We are literally constantly living in the fetid cave of What Men Find Hot.
This particularly resonated with me kek.

No. 160988

honestly carry on is cute but it didn’t need to be a trilogy (and i don’t think the author intended for it to be one) so if you’re in the mood for a low stakes funny and lighthearted fantasy/romance i would recommend it. i think it’s very much an intentional homage to harry potter and drarry but it’s not like a copy paste fanfiction with the names changed.

No. 160989

honestly neil gaiman has been pissing me off with his commentary on the good omens tv show. he at one point was very staunchly against gay romance interpretations of aziraphale and crowley but now that he’s realised he can rake in praise and money from queerioes he’s been hardcore pandering to non binary and asexual people. also pretending that the textual homophobia in the good omens book was all part of his plan to give people lgbt representation. i would have so much more respect for him if he just said ‘yeah me and terry thought homophobia was funny that’s why we wrote so much of it’ and left it at that.

No. 160990

Tbh, I really don't keep up with most authors. When I first read Nail Gaiman I thought he was a wholesome children's author. It's a shame he doesn't seem to be a great guy.

No. 161017

You have a point (said almost the same thing >>160902 here, idk why you have only quoted my first post), but I will never like those books. I hate YA and I hate this kind of wish-fullfilment, #relatable crap. But if other women enjoy it, more power to them.

No. 161032

I read Good Omens and Stardust but this was like a decade ago so I don’t remember a lot about them. I never got around to Coraline because I found out about it after reading Thief of Always and they sounded kind of similar.

No. 161041

Recommendations for books that get you in an autumn mood? Whether it's chilling horror books or cozy warm poetry/fiction/etc.

No. 161064

wow thats impressive! and such a good idea if youre reading that much since surely youd want to remember what you thought of the book, i might steal your idea as well thanks for sharing!

No. 161087

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A lot of these involve animals… Maybe because autumn always evokes the image of those quaint pencil illustrations of animals in children's books to me for some reason, but also included some horror and classics:
>BUNNICULA by Deborah and James Howe
Fun children's book about a cat and a dog who try to figure out if a newly-adopted rabbit is a vampire.
A girl visits an old abbey, expecting it to be just like her favorite Gothic novels, to hilarious expect.
>WATERSHIP DOWN by Richard Adams
A group of rabbits look for a home, but it's not easy!
>REDWALL series by Brian Jacques
Comforting, warm read with delicious descriptions of food. Nostalgic feeling.
>FRANKENSTEIN by Mary Shelley
A classic that still holds up, and is actually quite short! Definitely read it if you have the chance. If you really want to get into the mood, you can also read some poems by Shelley's husband or other contemporaries. Keats is definitely my favorite.
Another classic. The Kate Bush song is also good.
>TAILCHASER'S SONG by Tad Williams
A cat goes on an adventure. Sort of like a more sophisticated version of the Warriors books.
>THE CORN MAIDEN by Joyce Carol Oates
Some teenagers abduct a classmate for a bizarre ritual. Haunting imagery and prose.
Essential horror! A governess cares for two children at a remote country home that may be haunted. Coincidentally(?), this one also has a Kate Bush song written about it.
>THE BEAR by Andrew Krivak
Comforting, post-apocalyptic story about a father and daughter.
>HANGSAMAN by Shirley Jackson
Strange book that is rather different than her other works. Her other novels have been recommended a lot in these threads for good reason and are also good reads for autumn.
Last book of the Moomin series. Even though it's a children's novel, it's startlingly melancholy and very beautiful.
>GOBLIN MARKET by Christina Rossetti
Just a fun poem about two sisters.

No. 161088

Awww, thank you!! Definitely going to check some of these out in the upcoming months! Bless you nonny :) others, feel free to drop autumn favorite recommendations as well!

No. 161130

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go for it, nonnies. i use picrel (the brown one, they're from a brand called newestor) but once it's full i wanna get a cuter one. flame tree publishing has really cute moomin notebooks.

might be very obvious but i find harry potter books very fall season-y, probably because that's when the new school year starts at hogwarts.

No. 161136

very good points anon, what you say is true and i think a LOT (if not all) of women who dispute this do it out of self hate and repression. personally i do think it's weird to be an adult who is still into whatever their hormonal teenage selves were into, but i also find it infuriating how men are allowed and even expected to do this but women are mocked for it. middle aged men can watch star wars and fawn over the female characters they crushed on as teenagers, but god forbid women write some erotic fiction that caters to their own interests. and as you said women are never even close to as creepy about their horny interests as men are. whenever i see people sperging about shippers and whatnot, i think about how the woman who wrote brokeback mountain got a shit ton of porn fanfiction sent to her by adult men. people act like this is a female "issue".
>The film's popularity has inspired numerous viewers to write their own versions of the story and send these to Proulx. In 2008, Proulx said she wished she had never written the 1997 short story which inspired the film, because she has received so much fan fiction presenting alternative plots: [The film] is the source of constant irritation in my private life. There are countless people out there who think the story is open range to explore their fantasies and to correct what they see as an unbearably disappointing story.
>She said the authors, mostly men who claim to "understand men better than I do", often send her their works: They constantly send ghastly manuscripts and pornish rewrites of the story to me, expecting me to reply with praise and applause for "fixing" the story. They certainly don't get the message that if you can't fix it you've got to stand it.

No. 162235

anyone have recommendations for fantasy books or series (that are not YA) written by women? preferably ones that are finished, I'm not interested in reading a half done series. I think the only ones I know of are morgan llewylen, robin hobb and ursula k leguin. please no poppy war and not interested in reading marion zimmer bradley either.

No. 162362

The Priory of the Orange Tree - the author described it as feminist retelling of Saint George and the Dragon, if that's something you're interested in. There might even be a sequel coming but it's so massive that it's honestly like 2-3 books in one

No. 162637

Deep secret by Diana wynne jones, first in the series and my personal fav!

No. 162643

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I gotchu
>The Sharing Knife by Lois McMaster Bujold
>A couple from N.K. Jemisin (Inheritance & Dreamblood Trilogies)
>The Faded Sun Trilogy by C.J. Cherryh (more sci-fi than fantasy)
>Twelve Houses by Sharon Shinn
>Sevenwaters by Juliet Marillier
>The Winternight Trilogy by Katherine Arden

Not series but good:
>Circe by Madeline Miller
>The Goblin Emperor by Katherine Addison
>The Winged Histories by Sofia Samatar
>Deathless by Catherynne Valente
>The Hearing Trumpet by Leonora Carrington

No. 162646


I'm seconding >>162362 and recommending Priory. It can be a bit of a slog to get through at times but I loved it. Two of the main characters are cool warrior women and there's even some lesbian romance thrown in there.

No. 162649

Thoughts on The Girls, by Emma Cline?

No. 162652

Don't remember it super well, but tbh I remember being a bit disappointed in it? I think I found the everygirl protagonist really bland, which was especially frustrating given how many interesting personalities were in the book. But I liked the premise, and some of the writing. I want to read the new book she has out, b/c I definitely came away from The Girls feeling like she had potential that just needed a little more development.

No. 162663

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currently reading lolita for the third time. i first read it at age 13 (thanks lana del rey) and reread it again in my final year of high school for english class.
this third time reading has been the toughest. i think as a teenager i was unable to appreciate how messed up the situation was. like i understood on an objective level that pedophilia is messed up. but just thinking about dolores as a 13 year old, with no one to turn to just fills me with dread. it’s hard to get through the book this time round because i just feel so horrified. it’s almost too much to contemplate.
words cannot express how much i detest how the book has been immortalized in pop culture and how it has been adapted to screen. hollywood is full of creeps and i can’t believe so many people were just like ‘this book about a pedophile raping his stepdaughter is actually a forbidden love story and the 13 year old was actually the seducer.” any adult who thinks this after reading the book either has piss poor reading comprehension or is a pedophile or pedophile sympathizer. or all three

No. 162676

I have the same experience as you anon, I love the book because I think it's genius dark comedy and a great manipulation of the reader, but whenever I bring it up online I get lectured by people who've only read quotes from it on Tumblr, or who have read it in a different language where the mocking tone doesn't come across properly. The other week my friend attempted to sanctimoniously 'correct' my point about the book and then said she had 'only read extracts'! But there's no way to understand Nabokov's actual intention unless you read the bit where HH is writing from prison, all the stylistic flairs made to make him seem unlikable, etc. Brain worms

No. 162681

I couldn't read it. Gave up after 10 pages or so. I feel like this is an idea that would need a genius to execute properly simply because the reality is much more interesting than a fanfiction about it with a normalfag OC added to it. Or maybe it would work if Cline wrote her novel about a fictional cult.
IDK how people can say that the book is sympathizing with Humbert or that it's a love story after the part where he almost rapes a 10 year old pimped by her mother, but only stops because she's fat AND the part where he admits to planning to breed Lolita for endless suply of the next generation of Lolitas. How the fuck is this supposed to be love???

No. 162682

yeah if you go into the book knowing that humbert is trying to manipulate the reader it’s so incredibly obvious what he’s doing. he mentions multiple times lolita crying when she thinks he’s asleep, the fact that she had nowhere else to go, the fact that she struggles in sex ed class at school etc. there’s even a scene where he makes her give him a hand job in her classroom after he just had a meeting with a school principle about how she struggles in sex ed class and he says he did it because he knew that opportunity would never come around again. he’s a horrible horrible man and this story reads more like a horror story and a love story.

i think dolores’ conduct at the beginning of the story when he picks her up from summer camp is the most misleading. if we are even to believe what humbert is saying at all, she was essentially playing at flirting because she believed she was going to go and see her mother. he deliberately waited until he had raped her and she was in physical pain the next morning to tell her that her mother was dead and then that kind of began dolores’ hopeless situation with no one to turn to for help.

No. 162686

You’re my kinda gal, and thanks for all the recs ladies. Saving them all.

No. 162738

What the hell, I feel like I've read tons of recs for this book before yet never encountered this description. I'm gonna get this out of the library tomorrow

No. 162771

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has anyone read priory of the orange tree? i've heard good things about it but the the fact that its 600+ pages kind of overwhelms me. not sure if i want to dedicate the time to it

No. 162819


Me! I'm the first anon who recced it, up in the thread and it's totally worth it. Great storybuilding, writing and characters. A bit of a slog here and there but it's honestly such a massive book so it should be expected but really one of my fav books I've read

No. 162906


Personally, I thought it was very underwhelming. It tried to be an epic fantasy with multiple POVs and locations like ASOIAF but fails to explore many of them in a satisfactory way making the whole worldbuilding feel rushed and bloated. The characters were really flat and I thought their inner lives and interactions were predictable and boring.

I also thought the romance had no chemistry at all and was overtly sanitized, giving me a bit of a "uwu unproblematic lesbians" vibe. The main character and her love interest also massively got on my nerves for the whole book, I think I liked one single character in the whole thing.

I was expecting a good, long epic fantasy with worldbuilding and a complex lesbian romance but by the end I was really disappointed. Maybe it's more for a YA audience, but I wouldn't know since I don't read YA.

This is just my grain of salt, take it as you will.

No. 162910

thanks for the feedback anons! i think i'll give it ~150-200 pages before deciding whether to keep reading or not. i like fantasy and w/w pairings, but i think the longest book i've read in the past 3 years has only been 450 max.

(also i am just now seeing other anons talking about it in earlier posts, sorry for not using my eyes)

No. 162918

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I finished the hunger games. Fucking finally.
I think there was no need for 3 books. Some monologues katniss give feel like wordcount boost. It seems like she is repeating the same thing over and over again, while some scenes aren't descriptive enough.
The ending was disappointing. I didn't really expect anything different from the movies, it's just the way it's written, it felt very rushed when most of the book was so slow paced, make the movie seem a lot better.
Anyway, I'm glad I'm done with it but I'm also feeling kinda empty now it's over.

No. 162934

Anon, there is a fourth book in the series. It's a prequel about teenage President Snow. It's okay, fun to read I guess and definitely not dragging like Mockingjay.

No. 162946

I heard about it but didn't really intended on reading it because I find Snow a boring villain. I guess it's because of the story being first person, gave the impression he was just 'the evil dude that does evil things'. Guess that's why he needed a book, but honestly I'd rather read about anyone else.

No. 162957

He's more interesting as a teenager, though he's woobified for most of the book, he gets evil at the end. It's fine not to want to read it, though

No. 163219

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currently reading pic related. i like it a lot so far, super easy to pick up and get sucked into. i've never read anything by this author, but might check out some of her work after i'm done with this! the writing is really good imo

No. 163231

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Looks interesting. I'm about to start reading Vicious by the same author.

No. 163232

Are these YA novels?

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currently reading picrel because i'm a basic bitch.

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I honestly loved reading Shades Of Magic by the same author, I’m obsessed with the characters and my best friend also loved the whole story.
I wish they made a movie of these books because I think it would be really nice, I want to see Rhy in action.

No. 163274

No they're adult. She does write YA under the name Victoria Schwab though

No. 163288

I'm reading it rn to prepare for the movie. I can't figure out if I like it or not? I keep taking long breaks but when I'm into it, I'm pretty into it. I stopped 3/4 though a few weeks ago and haven't felt the urge to go back to it yet.

No. 163401

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I read this in like one day. It has odd wording at times but overall is pretty good. It has a really beautiful aesthetic. Has anyone read anything else by the author? Or know any books similar?

No. 163403

I tried reading it once when I was 15 and it made me dizzy and dazed

No. 163414

ooooh i'll have to check these out. i really love her writing style (or at least, based on addie la rue) and the premise sounds promising

No. 163467

imo it was better for me that i watched the movie first because all the terms are so confusing and barely explained like the mentat thing, i don't think leto ever told paul that he was a possible mentat in the movie that i would have dropped the book a few pages in. i do like it so far, even though it's kind of dense and i'm going through it very slowly.

No. 163509

A vent.

Finally finished 1Q84 by Murkami and I've been angry for days.

What the fuuuuck is this pedo bullshit? What the shit man, 2 pages before fucking the guy said she looks lke a 12 year old in bed ahhhhh, and she didn't have pubes and hadn't started her period?? In the sex scene it LITERALLY SAID he couldn't believe his "adult penis" fit in her. I don't care if she was 17, though a 17 and 29 year old would still be fucking weird even if she was painted as mature (which she certainly wasn't!), this was BLATANT pedo shit, and I cannot believe how much it was lauded and in all the bestseller lists and shit for years. Who the fuck read this and didn't recoil in revulsion at that? Moreover, how did everyone think this is great?

I went on goodreads and didn't find much in the reviews. For bad reviews just that it was dry and boring? Yes, women were sexualised and very one dimensional in general, but wow. I'd have quit reading if I wasn't so far into it, and I'll never read another book by him again.

No. 163592

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What are your thoughts on The Book Thief, anons? I was gifted the book but don't know if I want to commit to reading the thing since it's quite long and I'm not really into YA.

No. 163594

I've never read it, but I have heard really mixed things about it. Some people love it and some people hate it. It is character driven and not plot driven. It's really meandering apparently and you already basically know how it ends from the beginning.

No. 163595

Didn't read the book, tried the movie but dropped it halfway as it seemed as cutesy wannabe tearjerker about WW2. No thank you, I'm tired of takes on the topic like this or The Boy In The Striped Pajamas.
YMMV, many people think that the novel is a heartfelt masterpiece so maybe read the first 10, 30 pages and decide if you should continue.

No. 163596

Damn this makes me sad. I love Norwegian Wood and his characterization in that book is stellar. Whaaat is with japanese literature and pedophilia.

No. 163608

i liked norwegian wood well enough but i had to roll my eyes that the main character had sex with like every female character. murakami really wanted us to know that he tears through pussy. it was just unnecessary.
i’ve read norwegian wood, kafka on the shore and 1Q84. i enjoyed the first two but i don’t know if i want to keep reading his books because i don’t enjoy the weird sexualisation of women.

No. 163610

You may as well read it if you got it for free, it's very well loved and highly regarded. It's popular enough that I read it just to know what the fuss was about even though I'm not interested in the premise. I didn't care that much for it but it didn't feel like a slog to get through either.

No. 163611

Many many years ago I got it and tried to read it, I just really disliked it? I don't remember much other than that I found the "Death tells the story" a lame gimmick and the writing in general was lackluster, I dind't like anyone and was very bored.

No. 163615

kind of want to read the divine comedy. is that dumb nonnies?

No. 163624

I gotta vent about some Anne Rice shit.

I've read the first three books in the Vampire Chronicles years ago and recently picked up The Witching Hour. I hate not finishing books but this one is getting to me because of the blatant pedophilia. There was undertones of it in Interview with the Vampire but with the whole "eternal child" thing I could excuse lines being blurred there plus at least Louis showed his guilt if I recall right. Anne writes these pricks in this book as somehow honorable, or that visiting children in a brothel is not big deal because they're living that life anyways, and sleeping with your daughter is fine because morality is made up and the rules don't matter. and now that I'm reading one of her works after learning about her awful erotica it's got me really, really questioning this woman and her fixation on pedos

I'm so uncomfortable and idk if I'll finish this book. If I see another instance of the bs from above I'm going to stop. I don't see anyone complaining about it either; everyone is just insisting you have to view the entire work as her way of "eroticly writing."

I feel like I'm going insane and everyone is a pedo because no one seems to mind how wildly uncomfortable this shit is.

No. 163637

I didnt read your spoiler. I was about to start reading it (literally just bought all 3 Mayfair witches books at a thrift store). Since you said pedo now I am afraid lol. But I have I heard several people say that IWAV was way too pedo-y for them.

Im afraid to read it now lol.

No. 163643

That's what pissed me off about the Girl With Tattoo/Millenium series. Blomkvist is some washed up middle aged man yet the author really wants to present him as some sex magnet

No. 163655

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IDK what to tell yo except I found picrel interesting.
I've read ITWV 10 years ago, and couldn't really get through any other of the Vampire books. The were too slow for my taste and it was hard caring about all those scrote characters, of which there are too many. I barely acquainted myself with Lestat and Louise, and now I'm supposed to also be invested in Marcus and Armand??? WTF

No. 163662

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I want to read something as good as The King in Yellow, by Chambers again. I liked HP lovecraft but after a while all his stories started to sound similar. I LOVE TKIY so much. I never had a book blow my mind that way.. Thx..

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not at all anon. don't be afraid to look up notes if you need it for context. from what i remember (had to read dante's inferno for a medieval euro history class), having some sort of background knowledge of medieval euro history helps a lot because there's some name dropping and references to what were current events

No. 163688

yeah sorry I should have spoiled almost all of that but I was one benadyrl in and sleepy lol. I will say, outside of the pedoy shit, the book isn't what I thought it was going to be, though it is well written. If you were wanting a lot of really spooky, cool witch shit, it is NOT in those books. It's very history dense. I'm sorry for being a spoil-sport anon, but trust me, it's egregious and unless you want weird sexual undertones mingled in with a history lesson, it's probably not the book for you.

I am filled with new disgust! Thank you anon. I seriously question the woman, she's written underage erotica before (I believe the book is Belinda) and I read somewhere it was because Anne herself was I guess interested in sex at a young age? But she glorifies it, it seems, instead of having any nuanced thought about it. And yeah, I pushed myself through Vampire Lestat and Queen of the Damned. There's great story in there, especially about these two spooky ye olde women, but Anne focuses so much on the fucking scrotes it's insufferable. I see now why she focused on Lestat (a simply awful character that I did not give a singular shit about) instead of Louis who was at least interesting imo.

No. 163689

Are you familiar with mangaka Ito Junji? He's very lovecraftian but I consider him better and he has cute cats none of them named racebait

No. 163693

i found a version that keeps the original story but translates certain things to modern english so i think i'll be picking it up! thanks anon!

No. 163694

I pretty much ignored the final scene with Reiko . Completely unneccessary and I would have vastly preferred they had just shared a final tender kiss kek

No. 163695

So many women are horny for all those scrote vampires and I cannot tell them apart. What even was Lestat's personality???

No. 163742

self important douche bag. That was the whole personality.

No. 163745

I always saw illustrations by him, but I never actually read the manga until now… This stuff is really supreeeme:) If you know any others please let know!! Just fyi I already house of leaves.(:))

No. 163850

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I've been reading a lot of Ligotti lately, picrel was pretty good. A lot of people recommend him to fans of Lovecraft, especially "The Last Feast of Harlequin," but after reading this I think a more apt comparison is to Kafka, which I actually prefer, with a bleak criticism of capitalism and bureaucracy, combined with tongue-in-cheek humor.

Does anyone have "dark fiction" recommendations? Gothic, horror, whatever is fine, but I prefer female authors and I'm just looking for something gritty and eerie in atmosphere. Gillian Flynn sort of has the tone I'm looking for but I'm usually not that interested by her plot/characters if that gives a rough idea.

No. 163865

I would say give Miéville a shot if you're okay with a slow burn story. Perdido Street Station is very similar in a way, it's a scathing criticism of capitalism/bureaucracy (Miéville is a Marxist and has a PhD in international relations, but I don't find his writing preachy) with some really funny moments amid the bleakness. It is a long book and about half follows the protagonists during their daily lives but set in a weird warpy Lovecraftian London essentially, which I personally found fascinating, but some people feel it drags. Once you move past the halfway point it does get pretty damn gruesome though, and now that you're invested in the characters it makes it all the worse. One of my favorite writers.

No. 163872

hope you end up liking it anon! let us know how it goes.

No. 163940

bunny by mona awad maybe?

No. 164258

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I recently read picrel and I really liked it. It's in a similar vein to books like My Year of Rest and Relaxation and The New Me which have been brought up in here a few times. If other anons enjoyed those and other books with unlikeable female protagonists then I recommend this one.

No. 164266

what it this about? it sounds like something a tranny would say so I'm off putted by the title

No. 164267

NTA it’s about this woman who makes a living taking fetish photos of men. that might not sound appealing but it was honestly pretty funny and fucked up. there is a trans man character which made me roll my eyes but the protagonist is kinda blunt about it so it wasn’t completely tranny ass kissing

No. 164366

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Just finished this.

No. 164372

What'd you think?

No. 164374

pancho villa

No. 164378

mexican jordan peele

No. 164436

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Reading my husbandos autobiography. It's really funny. He talks about how weird gay sex is and that he was told to stick a toothbrush up his ass to expand the hole.

No. 164777

I didn't even know he had an autobiography. I love him though

No. 165094

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So I just finished listening to this book. A little bit disappointed tbh.

The basic premise is that there is a group of 7 friends who are Shakespearean acting students at a fictional school. A character gets murdered and the protagonist, Oliver, went to jail for this murder. He's getting out after 10 years and the detective who put him there is quitting and asks what really happened so Oliver is telling him the story.

It was kind of pitched as like this dark academia murder mystery, but the ending was very predictable to me and there was a lot more focus on the relationships between the characters/bromance than any mystery or plot. I think I would have enjoyed it more if I had known that and not been expecting a really good mystery. Also the character that got killed was such a POS that I didn't really care who killed them. Another thing I didn't like was how this book felt kind of pretentious in the first half, and I'm not sure if that was more the writing or the narrator (or both) and had a lot of ridiculous flowery descriptions of things. And one of the characters has an English accent and the narrator did not do it very well in my opinion lol.

Click for major spoilers the friend in the group that gets killed, Richard, was a huge jackass who had been getting more and more violent/aggressive towards the friends. It was really obvious about halfway through who really killed him. The other friend, James, killed him basically in self defense. Oliver takes the blame for this because he loves James so much. Then James supposedly kills himself 4 years before Oliver gets out of prison, but leaves Oliver an ambiguous note quoting Shakespeare, and it's revealed that no one ever actually found James' body, implying he might still be alive. I almost DNF'd it because I was bored, but I did really like the ending.

No. 165188

i really liked the ending too and i thought it had the potential to be really good but i didn’t super enjoy most of the book. it seemed like a discount secret history by donna tartt lol.
when the bromance thing got introduced i had to roll my eyes because homoerotic elements are a staple of the dark academia genre. i can’t remember if they actually kissed though. i hope they did though.

No. 165325

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Has anyone read All Systems Red by Martha Wells? I have not read it but am on hold for it at the library. (Please spoil spoilers.) It is a sci-fi series by a woman, which is cool!

Also, silly but wholesome tangent, I just love choosing library books. I use an online public library, and I love browsing through books and choosing which ones to read. It's like online shopping, except I don't use money kek. I also get a small dopamine rush when I mark a book as "Read" on Goodreads.

No. 165369

I feel the same way. I had a library card when I was a kid, but fell off after going to college and moving a bunch. I'm so happy I remembered libraries are a thing and got my first adult card – it's such a joy to walk down to my branch on a pretty day and pick new reads. Totally the same feeling as shopping, but without spending money and supporting something really great.

Haven't read Wells yet, but I'm so happy to see her succeed and always hear good things about her books.

No. 165414

Any good nonfiction to listen to on audiobook?

No. 165416

Invisible Women by Caroline Criado-Perez is read by the author so I thought it was pretty good

No. 165434

The Warmth of Other Suns is really long, but the structure – it's three life stories from the Great Migration – makes it very engaging. Really interesting way to learn about a historical phenomenon I didn't know much about.

Dearie: The Remarkable Life of Julia Child is really sweet – if I remember right, the author admits to being a little in love with Child (not romantically, just really enamored of her as a person) and it honestly works really well. The whole book has this really wonderful wamrth.

I'm in the middle of The Heroine with 1001 Faces rn, and though it's a little dry, it's pretty interesting. It's a Harvard scholar's response to Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey – basically her attempt to see if there's such a thing as a Heroine's Journey, and what it looks like. She's a major expert on fairy tales, which is making it a really rich book so far.

No. 165480

Any anons have nonfiction mental health book reccs? Self-esteem, confidence, general mental health, etc.?

No. 165489

I was recommended these by a counsellor in regards to stress, anxiety, mindfulness and time management
>The Relaxation Response by Herbert Benson
>Wherever You Go, There You Are by Jon Kabat-Zinn
>The Relaxation and Stress Reduction Workbook by Martha Davis, Elizabeth Robbins Eshelman and Matthew McKay
>How to Get Control of Your Time and Your Life by Alan Lakein

No. 165542

Nta but I love shit like this, since I've been actively working on my mental health my life is so much better (go figure right). Thanks for sharing!

These are some I've liked:
>Mind Over Mood by Dennis Greenberger & Christine Padesky
>Self-Esteem: A Proven Program of Cognitive Techniques by Matthew McKay & Patrick Fanning
>Becoming Bulletproof by Evy Poumpouras
>The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker (not only useful if you're actively worried about someone, discusses why you should trust your instincts and how to reduce general anxiety)

No. 165574

I have heard The Worry Cure is really good but I haven't read it

No. 165716

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I rewatched this recently and the pseudo-sequel Wiener-Dog which I liked a lot. It might be a long shot but do any anons have recommendations for books that are similar? I like the dysfunctional suburban setting and dark comedy that’s bleak but weirdly comforting at the same time.

No. 165814

Unironically one of the best books I have ever read. The guy was fascinating a real life robin hood but also a ruthless cold blooded psychopath capable of slaughtering entire villages of people.

More like a Mexican Teddy Roosevelt.

No. 165828

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I've just read Things Have Gotten Worse Since We Last Spoke. I'm not the anon who has recommended the book, though >>>/m/8561 I absolutely DO NOT recommend this if you have weak stomach – and even if you don't, I'm not convinced it's worth it. Content warning below because from OP descriptions you really don't know what you are getting into (not her fault, though – even from description, it's hard to imagine it's that bad). The book is not relatable unless you are a deranged psycho of an Armin Meiwes caliber. Also, YMMV on how believable the whole story is, since the relationship never becomes an IRL one.
>Full-on BDSM Master/Slave relationship over chat. I realize this is a dealbreaker for most farmers. Even if you are ok with that for whatever reason, it's a far cry from 50 Shades of Grey type kinky romance.
>2 detailed scenes of animal cruelty and murder/death. One features a cat
>a detailed scene of child torture and murder
>Nemu tier depiction of people decomposing after radiation exposure
>tapeworm infestation
>What TV Troped defines as Eye Scream – very predictable from the beginning
The fact that men are 'raving' about this makes me feel sick, since I don't trust them to see the story as a nightmare fuel. Also, there was no fucking reason the story was about two lesbians. The story might have been about a scrote and a woman provided the scrote was infertile. It would be much more believable. It seems like a fetish/shock value thing.

No. 165832

a cherry on the shit cake is what I've just read in a Goodreads review:
>Also, the author is LGBTQ and nonbinary
Non-binary really is a convenient excuse for scrotes being scrotes, isn't it? Reposting my comment since he is actually gay, IDK if it changes something in my perception.

No. 165835

Currently reading Dracula for the first time and I love the story, aesthetic's and how it's written. Can anyone recommend anything similar? I was thinking of reading Jane Eyre or something by Jane Austen but im not the biggest fan of romance.

No. 165841

Oh, that's a shame. I saw this book being recommended in the last thread too and the title got my attention, I had it downloaded and all but just hadn't gotten around to reading it. So it's just really gross and over-the-top trauma porn, huh? Disappointing, won't be wasting my time. I should've read the reviews before. Also it makes me deeply uncomfortable that a man is writing about a lesbian who wants to have a baby. It should be illegal for men to write lesbian characters.

No. 165843

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The Conspiracy Against the Human Race sent me into a mental breakdown. I still have a couple chapters left only because it's such a brutal book I need to mentally prepare. I struggle with the fact that it's all true.

No. 165844

I hated this too. I thought it would be interesting because of the premise (two women form an unhealthy relationship over the old internet) but it failed in every way. Totally agree with >>165841 about the pregnancy angst, it was so funny to me that a lesbian who has been rejected by her family, is poor, is totally alone, etc., when she’s asked by her rich gf what she wants more than anything says she wants a baby, almost right after they start talking. Then of course her gf is so very sad because she can’t give her that. Is the horror the result of her not being a man? Because I honestly think the author just had no other ideas as to what would compel female horror. When they sexted I remember laughing at how it was so obviously written by a man, it immediately devolves into BDSM and is overwhelmingly cringe.
It’s just a bunch of edgy gore with no purpose and both the protagonists say pseudo-philosophical things to justify it. At some point a salamander is killed by the protagonist and one literally says that a salamander is a symbol of rebirth. Like no shit.

No. 165849

Thank you. I was considering reading this book though I was a bit apprehensive because the author is male. Well, I guess that solves it. You can never trust a guy to write good female characters.

No. 165851

Your post intrigued me so I had to read this book. And god, it's so bad. The last quarter is exceptionally terrible, I probably read better creepypastas written by 15 year olds. Also as always, lmao @ anyone who gave this a book 5 stars on goodreads and wrote a "to be honest you have to have a high IQ to understand this novella" type of review.

No. 165856

I agree with the lesbian pregnancy thing. It escaped my attention because to me so many things were even worse, and the plot was insane (in a bad way). That's why it's vital to read literature analysis by other people. I can give one thing to the author: he can write truly visceral descriptions of violence and disgusting things. I almost vomited when reading about the meat. IDK if this is what I would like to be known for LOL.
>You can never trust a guy to write good female
But he's LGBTQ and non-binary, haven't you heard??? Totally same as lesbians!
>Also as always, lmao @ anyone who gave this a book 5 stars on goodreads and wrote a "to be honest you have to have a high IQ to understand this novella" type of review.
Someone suggested that crushedmarigolds was a man. Sure, headcanon it if you want, but I didn't see anything in the text that was suggesting it. HM, except from scrote shit like the panty thing.

If anyone has better recommendations for stories about online relationship and psychological power struggle in relationships, please recommend it to me. So far I found My Tiny Life about the first topic and a few non-fiction books about World of Warcraft. Plus one anthropologist one about Second Life.

No. 165866

I'm original OP who posted it, haven't read it yet but uhhh might still hate-read it because I have a strong stomach and it sounds trashy and entertaining Plz forgive me nonnies.

No. 165867

It's only 64 pages according to my ebook reader. You can read it in an hour or maybe even less, so you wouldn't be wasting a lot of time.

No. 165868

Doesn’t the crushedmarigolds being a man theory fall apart since the opening talks about a woman named Zoe being arrested after Agnes dies? It would have been more interesting though. I thought the Internet setting would be cool since there’s more ambiguity as to if people are who they say they are or if they’re telling the truth. The Sluts by Daniel Cooper is an interesting example of this being used for horrific effect, but it seems like in this book it’s just window dressing. I really thought that when Zoe was telling Agnes to do things that there would be some reveal that she had just been lying or something like that. Even if Agnes lying at the end or it being more ambiguous with the possibility that she hadn’t died and Zoe had just been left to wonder and feel guilty the ending would be better than what it is.

No. 165869

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So is the author an actual gay man or is he the tumblr kweer type?

Also, went back to read more of the reviews. Lots of passive aggressiveness (and just plain aggressiveness) in this woman's replies. This chain of comments in particular gave me a hearty kek.

No. 165873

Does anyone have any favorite beverages/reading spots/other reading traditions?

I looove making and drinking tea, especially while reading. However, I'm untraditional and like drinking cold tea no matter what the season, so I cold brew tea in my fridge.

Reading in bed with a tumbler of cold tea>>>>

No. 165883

I like to go on walks in a forest preserve near me so when I’m walking around I listen to audiobooks. Then when I sit down, I usually switch over to a paperback, and just have cold water. It’s also really comfy to just lie under a blanket on the couch with some quiet music and a good book. I don’t really drink a lot of beverages besides water but it feels so pleasant when you’re drinking or eating something that matches the book. Like apple tea when you read something autumnal.

No. 165897

iced lattes are my favorite drink so usually that. I used to be a big tea drinker but I never think to make it anymore for some reason.

No. 165937

That's one hell of a description. I'm kind of on a kick of reading biographies about people I know nothing about, I think I'll check this out next. Thanks!

No. 165938

Haven't read this book yet, and I'm thinking now I probably won't. But reading this discussion is making me ponder a question I wanna put to the thread at large: what do you think this kind of super out-there horror looks like from women? Does it exist yet?

I ask because I feel frustrated rn in a way I hope some of you might recognize. I've always been drawn to horror like this, but I'm pretty much always disappointed. When I was younger, this really confused me, because I felt simultaneously bored AND upset by books like this. And I knew I wasn't upset by them out of like, purely shocked disgust – I was interested in reading dark shit, but what I found was never actually what I wanted. Now I understand that this is largely because horror is often really gendered, and male horror is really fucking tiresome and mundane and exhausting a lot of the time. But I still hear about books like this and think "!!! maybe this time!" Does anyone else feel like that?

For female avant-garden ultra-intense horror/dark lit like this….I'm struggling to think of many examples, but I feel like there must be more out there than I realize. I'm the anon who first brought up Lisa Taddeo's Animal last thread, and I think that definitely counts. I'd also say Kyoko Okazaki's Helter Skelter, and Sayaka Murata's Earthlings. But everything else I can think of is less edgy – like, I love the Haunting of Hill House, but I want some primal scream stuff, you know?

No. 165948

I usually drink water or coffee. If I feel like it, sometimes I will make an iced breve sweetened with honey.

The Murderbot novellas are very fun but also overrated imo. As long as you ignore the hype and don't have your expectations set super high, I think you'll enjoy them.

No. 165966

I read All Tomorrows because of this video and it's honestly one of the best and surprisingly moving books I've ever read.

No. 165974

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Same, really enjoyed it.
Can I get some nonny-reviews on Zadie Smith writing? I finally gave White Teeth a go because my literature professor couldn't stfu about it. I was disappointed, found the book really boring and arrogant

No. 166000

I loved NW because the dialogue was so realistic and well-written, but the racial politics just seem overdone now after 2 rounds of BLM. I think it must have felt a lot more unique and insightful back in 2012

No. 166036

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I don't know if I'd necessarily call it horror, but Ice by Anna Kavan is an interesting one. Apocalyptic, unnerving, and dreamlike.

No. 166091

I hated White Teeth. I had to read it for one of my literary theory classes, and to date it remains the single most pretentious thing I have ever read. The prose is intended to be quick and snappy and clever but the execution is just a huge fucking mess

No. 166171

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Since we are talking about horror by women, this is an indie book I just read. Very short, 34 pages. I don't want to spoil too much but it's about lost media. Not bad! I really like the cover.

No. 166351

lately when i read at night i have a cup of hot coffee (decaf) and read on my couch.

if i have the day off i'll go to a botanical garden near me to read, stop for iced coffee and a sandwich to take first and walk around a bit and then read.

No. 166366

So cute and so relaxing, I wish I was you

No. 166381

I dind't get it. How did you understood the end of the story anon?

No. 166383

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I read Everyone in This Room Will Someday Be Dead by Emily Austin a couple of weeks ago and I think a lot of anons would appreciated it.
The protagonist is a late twenties lesbian women that can't keep a job, too depressed and obssessed with death to show up, and ends up pretending to be a straight religious woman to work at a church.
The protagonist voice is great and there's even some murder mystery mixed in the plot.

No. 166384


I'll look out for this at work, I work in a library and this interests me. Glad you enjoyed it!

No. 166389

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I'm trying to read more unique/lesser-known works, especially by female authors. Going to read picrel, it's by about a female psychologist researching near-death experiences. I like the vaporwave-esque art lol.

I think it's supposed to be kind of trippy/mindfuck-y, like Uncle Bob either predicted her future that she'd forget who she was in her chain of lies, or perhaps she just straight up invented Uncle Bob and everything happening in the story is a delusion since she's such a huge liar. Hope that made sense. I don't understand the significance of Uncle Bob being the hill, though.

No. 166450

Oh, do you have any other recs? I've also been trying to read more of the same and I'm always open to reading more lesser-known female authors!

No. 166479

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They've both been recommended in this thread before, but Convenience Store Woman or Asleep are interesting, surreal-feeling books by Japanese women! A little more mainstream, but I've been hoping to segue into more indie stuff.

Also, a good way I've been discovering books recently is to look into different awards, like the Hugo Award for science-fiction/fantasy. It's helping me find high-quality books that aren't always super well-known. Vintage International seems to have a unique selection as well.

No. 166505

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read the first 50 pages and dropped it because i had other things i wanted to read at the time, but i might pick it up again. from what i remember the dialogue made me laugh out loud.

currently reading pic related. i like it so far. if you like japanese literature it has that sort of slow paced slice of life vibe, but also eerie. it's about a woman well known in a neighborhood and the mc wants to be her friend so she stalks her among other things

No. 167075

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i loved this one, i haven't finished the second part yet but i found it so beautiful and relatable

No. 167078

I’m excited to read this one, especially because of her conversation with Murakami on sexism. It was so satisfying to read the whole exchange and finally see him held accountable.

No. 167079

I read it and also really enjoyed the first part! I think because the second one was written later, it was a bit more weaker. I wish I knew Japanese because I know it's supposed to be much more hard hitting in its original language

No. 167103

i didn't like the second part. it started off strong but the 2nd part was weaker and the ending was a disappointment

No. 167501

Can I get some good historical fiction recs? Ones that are popular/well known please.
I’m trying to get back into reading after not having read a book since my college days.

No. 167510

The memoirs of Cleopatra by Margaret George (audible version much preferred) is a very long but immersive historical fiction

No. 167529

Regarding Uncle Bob being the hill, I kinda saw it as a metaphor for how he was woven into the fabric of the town itself and the children that lived there. He was omnipresent in a way, much like roots under the ground? Idk, just my thoughts.

No. 167544

Can anyone give me books/short stories etc. that make you tear up just when you think about them
>inb4 Twilight, 50 Shades of Grey or The Seat Filler
No, not that kind of books. I'm asking seriously, I want to be moved and cry because I haven't been able to for some time

No. 167548

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picrel made me cry so fucking hard, it's hard for books (or any media, really) to make me cry but this one really got me. It's SO good, one of my favorite books tbh. It's been 2 years since I read it and I still think about it a lot. If you like quirky Japanese literature and magical realism you'll probably like it.

No. 167553

I'm listening to The Secret History. I'm so bored, I almost DNF'd. They are at Bunny's funeral, I'm 75% through this book and I'm just.. so bored. It wasn't what I was expecting at all. I'm gonna try and finish it today, listening to it sped up.

No. 167573

These made me cry for different reasons, so maybe one will strike a chord with you:
>The Awakening by Kate Chopin
>No Longer Human by Osamu Dazai
>Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy
>Swamplandia by Karen Russell
>Persuasion by Jane Austen

No. 167584

I had a random curiosity to read Lovecraft, any recs to start?

No. 167585

He's got quite a few anthologies out there, unless you're looking for digital epubs or something.

No. 167587

Sweet Ermengarde is all you need.

No. 167602

I like this interpretation! I am pretty bad at understanding imagery.

No. 167609

Has anyone had luck with a book club irl or online? I've been thinking about looking for one nearby and wondering what other people's experiences are since I've only really discussed books in school or on forums in passing, so I'm not sure how different a book club would be.

No. 167718

I really love book clubs, though they're hard to maintain ime – everyone has packed schedules, and it's no one's fault. The ones that have lasted have usually been kind of informal (usually just me and a few friends) and/or very flexible in terms of dates and not finishing if you're really not feeling the book. I prefer women-only book clubs, but some mixed-sex ones are okay. I think specific clubs organized around a certain type of book (biographies, sci fi, women authors, etc) tend to do better, and are also a cool way to make new friends.

No. 167756

I'm in a Discord book club with a few friends, since we all live apart atm! It can be hard to schedule, like above mentioned, so it's normal to have 1-2 people missing every week. But it's still fun, and sometimes helps me to read things I wouldn't necessarily have chose for myself.

No. 168130

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I'm reading Sylvia Plath's The Bell Jar. Sometimes I feel bad that there's so many classics I haven't read, but honestly, there are so many books considered "classics" that you could probably spend a lifetime finishing them all!

Anyways, I think this is great for people who want to read something famous by a woman, but is still relatively short and has an easy to understand writing style. I find the writing to be breezy and enjoyable.

No. 168137

No offense to you but
I hate people who insist on "reading classics first" to be able to read any other book. I didn't read for so many years because pretentious book-bro men kept saying everywhere "READ THE CLASSICS FIRST". Ok genious what if I don't want to? Everyone has their own fucking taste. So yeah I only read stuff made by women in the last 40 years. Fuck them classics

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Good for you, but also, you should at least read the classics that were written by women. Djuna Barnes, Kate Chopin, and Virginia Woolf are all excellent feminist authors.

No. 168144

nta and I get where you're coming from, but this is the same energy you get from people who only want to watch Marvel films.

No. 168147

I still haven't read The Bell Jar, even though I've read and liked Plath's poetry, but I'm going to try and give it a go!

I feel you about how many "classics" there are, I like older lit for a couple of reasons but especially because it's always interesting to see me how much things change and how much things stay the same. When I first read The Picture of Dorian Gray I remember being surprised by how easy to understand it was since it's Victorian.

If anyone else has issues reading older writing but wants to read more of it, it might help to read it out loud or listen to an audio recording. The best thing about a lot of classic lit is that most of it has come into the public domain, so audiobooks are really easy to find online (e.g. LibriVox). When I was younger I had trouble reading Beowulf because it's Old English so hearing it read aloud was enlightening. English isn't my first language so that might have also played a part in how hard it was at first, but after awhile you start to get a feel for it so you'll just be able to read it normally.

No. 168148

I’ve also been interested in reading “classics” and it did lead me to reading bell jar, I’m so happy I did. As >>168142 said, classics by female authors are really worth reading.

No. 168149

Tbf Beowulf is meant to be heard and not read

No. 168161

No I won't. Thanks for the offering but if a story doesn't seem interesting to me then I won't even if it's a classic. Will look into the authors but I promise nothing. I have a friend who loves Virgnia Woolf though.

No. 168162

Maybe I'm a big dummy, but I have a big difficult time when it comes to certain stories. This is why I can't seem to get into classics. I value relatability more than setting. I'm not saying "omg I'll only read stories where they use iphones and watch youtube" (that's also so annoying) but I like thinking those stories I'm reading are happening somewhere in the world as I read. It's probably some OCD shit lmao

No. 168167

I never said that classics are better or more important, just that I think it's nice to read a few sometimes so I can be in the loop.

I'm actually the same anon who has been posting about supporting obscure/underrepresented female authors, posts >>166389 and >>166171 are by me.

Feel free to make recommendations about underrated authors but please don't put words into my mouth.

No. 168199

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Sidestepping the classics discussion entirely, but wrt to Plath, I'm reading picrel and it's fucking amazing. I've actually never read Bell Jar and only some of her poetry – I picked this up b/c I read an interesting article about how different Plath actually was from the popular image of her and wanted to know more. She was this vigorous, insanely disciplined, genius person who prided herself on being tough and capable, 100% not the tragic waif briefly possessed by greatness teen girls are culty and hysterical over, as she was introduced to me. It's simultaneously such an invigorating AND tragic read: You know the end is coming, and you know how she's been mistreated posthumously, but at the same time, reading about her fighting tooth and nail every single day to develop her talent instead of lying down and accepting what the world wants from her is amazing. She was a really fucking hardcore craftswoman and it's fascinating to read about.

I only ever read a few of her most famous poems before this, but I'm buying a copy of Ariel the minute I finish this.

No. 168200

Thanks for reminding me to read it. I've read a few Plath biographies, but this one is supposedly the best.
>She was this vigorous, insanely disciplined, genius person who prided herself on being tough and capable, 100% not the tragic waif briefly possessed by greatness teen girls are culty and hysterical over, as she was introduced to me.
Yeah, it becomes clear as soon as one reads anything on her or her diaries.
I highly recommend you give Lover of Unreason a shot too, it's the only biography of Assia Wevill and it's quite fascinating too. Unless Red Comet somehow covers the ground too, but I doubt it. Hope someday we get her poetry too (I'm very curious about it).

No. 168206

Don't overreact either

No. 168237

Nta but to be fair even though I get where >>168137 is coming from it can be read as overreacting too. Especially since the original post didn’t even say anything about how everyone should start with classics, it was just a book recommendation.

I had the same outlook when I was first introduced to her poetry funnily enough. I was expecting it to be romantic, airy because of that “tragic waif” image she gets, but I was struck by how clear-eyed and direct it is, even when she discusses darker subject matter.

I’m also really curious about Wevill’s poetry. I know it’s just the nature of things but if it gets published I hope it would be able to stand alone without too much comparison to Hughes or Plath.

No. 168238

Honestly, even though I'm interested in reading Wevill's poetry, I don't exactly have high expectations for it. There is probably a reason why it wasn't published despite the whole drama (IDK if currently there are some issues with rights, but she has never published a poetry book AFAIR). I would love to be pleasantly surprised! Her poems may be good, but not as good as Plath's and Hughes'. I mean, they are considered absolute masters of the craft, it would be hard for anyone to measure up.

No. 168414

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Little Free Library by Naomi Kritzer. A cute fantasy short story about a free library! Not the most amazing thing ever, but a nice light read.

No. 168552

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Sorta silly, but I recently got into reading Warriors. They're great to read as like a palate cleanser in between more complex books. It was really popular when I was in elementary school, but I was busy having a ~not like other girls~ phase and I refused to like cats. I got curious on what I missed out on, so one night when I had insomnia I decided to read it. I'm loving it so far. For a kid's book, I think got really good comparisons and examples of real world problems such as war and loyalty. The first book was really slow, but I think any introduction to a kid's series book will be like that. The third one (pic) I just finished and it was great! I feel kind of silly reading them as an adult, but you know what, if people my age can still spazz out over Harry Potter, I'm not going to feel guilty for enjoying some cat drama.

No. 168559

Don't feel guilt for enjoying things. It's harmless and it doesn't make you less of an adult or anything goofy like that. People who shame others for liking things that are "for kids" are just insecure about their own shit and take it out on others. Redwall is technically "for kids" but they're beautiful books and I have every single one and will read them over and over. The thing about Warrior Cats is that Erin Hunter isn't just one person, it's written by a group of people, and this makes for some really messy complications in the books. Like several characters having the same or super similar names, characters descriptions (eye color, fur pattern, etc) changing from book to book, continuity errors. But it's a fun series to read anyway, it's all about what you make of the experience. If you haven't read any Redwall, I recommend, very cozy. And they are all written by the same person lol.

No. 168562

Samefag but I forgot to mention that Warrior Cats wasn't even someone's own brainchild, HarperCollins literally just approached an author and said "please write a series about feral cats", which I think is kind of hilarious

No. 168582

> It was really popular when I was in elementary school, but I was busy having a ~not like other girls~ phase and I refused to like cats.

This is funny, I was pretty mercilessly bullied by the other kids for reading Warriors in elementary school. Anyway I’m glad you’re enjoying them, maybe I should poke into them again. I read just the first series I think - there’s like a dozen different series and from what I’ve heard they kind of lose the plot eventually but that first series was really fun at least.

No. 168724

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currently reading picrel, has anyone finished it already? i'm 2/3 through the first part (out of six, i think) and it's kinda slow and… not exactly boring, but uneventful. unfortunately i really like those dark academia books, if they don't trail into fanfic-y love story territory (like a touch of darkness).

No. 168815

Aww, I loved Warriors in elementary school, and I was actually in a Warriors roleplaying forum on Neopets lmao. I might get around to re-reading it eventually!

Reading books for "children" is already ahead of like, 90% of the population who doesn't read books. And I think all genres of books have something special to appreciate.

No. 168967

Update: I finished The Bell Jar and really enjoyed it. It was written in 1963 yet touches on subjects like womens' mental illness, virginity, and lesbians.

Don't be intimidated by it being a "classic," it's actually written in an easy style!

No. 169236

updated, i just finished the book and it was alright. like a solid book that i enjoyed reading. the twist at the end really surprised me because i wish the author had given us more hints/backstory to the affair, it just came very out of nowhere and it did shock me, but i didn't have that 'oh, that explains so much' moment. but aside from that it was enjoyable.

No. 169414

Why are so many women's memoirs these days so trashy? They're basically filled with stories about getting drunk and having cringey hook-up experiences. There's also usually a lot of gross oversharing about bodily functions like pissing or vomiting. Like I get they're trying to be funny and relatable but they just make you cringe at how much of a pathetic fuck-up they are. What happened to normal memoirs?

No. 169421

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Kek oh nooooooo, just bought the book yesterday on a whim and I started it, it's ok so far, insufferable pretentious mains but I knew that before starting it

No. 169427

These weren’t a thing when I was a kid, but I feel like I would have really liked them and kind of want to read them now. I also am considering reading Animorphs again since they’re easy to access online now. I’ve seen some things from the graphic novels though and the images are a bit horrifying. I feel like they’re going to scar kids for life or leave them with a transformation fetish. It’s some bizarre shit.

No. 169433

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Halfway through 'Normal People'. I don't really know what to say other than it's alright. I don't really get the huge amount of praise it's getting, but maybe the book'll get better

No. 169444

Oh gosh yes, the actual idea and formation of warrior cats is interesting. I haven't made it far enough in the series to watch it get messy idea-wise, but yes the naming of the cats is ridiculous and far too same-same. I actually think Warriors was hatched to rival Redwall? I can't remember if they were around in the same time period or if I'm thinking of a different series…I imagine it also started to get messy plot wise because the publishers wanted a new book like every three months. Even for kids books that's a super short turn around. I haven't read Redwall but I might look into it!

I never got into Animorphs but that was HUGE at the time…I'm interested to see the graphic novel, I had no idea they had those, but also kinda terrified now haha. I honestly kind of wonder if Warriors played into creating furies at all…

No. 169446

Haven’t read it, but I tried to watch the Hulu series and it’s soooo fucking boring. I think I made it to episode 9 and just couldn’t give care about where the “story” was going anymore.

No. 169474

latefag but that's hilarious, are there any other books or series that has this kind of origin?

No. 169482

Don't know if anyone cares but someone uploaded a female narration of the book https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqyAw0eGo_LuLmp5glMLgizpCYDpqSIkX

The same channel also has the same narration with rain sounds in the background

No. 169579

Ty for this anon, I was just looking for something nice to listen to while the rain comes down.

No. 169581

Red Comet OG anon here. I think it's probably likely it won't measure up either, but honestly, her whole life was so fucked, I kind of want something of hers to be published, just so her work can exist independently, out in the world. I mean, I'm hitting the moment she and Hughes start the affair, she is not my favorite person rn, but still.

Tbh, with every page I turn, I hate Ted Hughes more and more. I am so fucking tired of his 400 poems about virile stormy eagles that are metaphors for dicks that are metaphors for war that are metaphors for truth that are metaphors for how his wife is chaining him to mundanity by………aging? Expressing literally any interest in earning money? Being emotionally affected by the misogyny of 1950s society? She asked so little of him, kick-started his entire career, moved thousands of miles away from her family for him, never stopped singing his praises to literally everyone, never demanded he take a steady job, and bore him two children. But boo hoo, he feels vague ennui because, idk, he's turned 30, and he has to fuck other women to cope? All his never-ending odes to rugged masculinity, and he can't deal with the gentlest little ripples in his world. Meanwhile, Sylvia is cleaning his house, being cheated on, being hit, raising kids, living in rural isolation, dealing with mental illness, handling two careers, and cranking out a fucking masterpiece.

No. 169598

Books that have good descriptions of food?

No. 169651

started reading this yesterday. This honestly feels like ‘Lolcow: the book’ minus the coke

No. 169661

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I have been reading Sally Thorne's books lately trying to get into romance novels. I liked The Hating Game for the enemies to lovers, slow burn dynamic. Also glad the author doesn't write grotesque sex scenes. However, the MC is a bit of a cringy quirky type. I saw one goodreads review that said she was like Jess from New Girl which was pretty accurate. And many characters throughout the book obsessively point out the height difference between the MC and the guy (5'0 and 6'4) which was annoying.

No. 169669

Can someone recommend me urban fantasy novels that are not YA? I heard China Mieville's stuff is supposed to be good, thoughts?

No. 169676

i read the city and the city by him and it was good. granted i had to read it for class but it was one of the few books i didn't hate. it's a very dense read though, but he wrote it specifically for his mom who loves crime fiction and i feel like the attention to detail really conveys that this was written with someone he loves in mind so he wanted it to be good. the world building is really amazing.

No. 169677

Do you mean adult as in philosophical/less campy or just adult characters and themes. I read a lot of UF, but mostly read for entertainment, so it's not super high brow.

No. 169698

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Nonnies I'm cackling so hard. I got an automated recommendation on Goodreads for this book called The Fetishists, author name COOMER. The synopsis mentions "ponygirls."

No. 169733

I feel like they have to be familiar with the term lol

No. 169740

No fucking way it wasn't intentional.

No. 169791

i’m curious, does anyone have really romantic book recs but a lot of sex in it? i’m tired of reading scenes like that i just want something romantic, but can be sad and stuff as well tbh.

No. 169889

You could read Ninth House by Leigh Bardugo. I think all of Leigh Bardugo's books before Ninth House were YA, but Ninth House is definitely not, it's pretty dark at some points (there was a rape scene I was not prepared for). I think it's going to be a series which kind of bummed me out because I don't want to wait years and years for the whole series to come out. I haven't finished it yet so I'm not totally confident recommending it but it is urban fantasy and not YA. I'm liking it so far.

No. 169899

just finished reading this. i thought it was pretty good.

all the japanese literature i’ve read has a slightly sterile vibe to it. not sure if it’s like that in the original japanese or if it’s just how it’s been translated

No. 169919

sterile is a good way of describing it anon. japanese lit is usually grounded in reality but has this real detached vibe to narration that makes some of it feel like a weird fever dream. if that makes any sense at all

No. 169924

Could you give example pls?

No. 169925

i guess books like convenience store woman, woman in the purple skirt, confessions by kanae minato, etc. they all take place in real time and real life but the narrators seem detached from reality in the way they describe their surroundings and situation

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I saw this one at the book fair this week, now I'm salty I didn't pick it up because it was super cheap.
I just decided to start reading stuff by japanese authors after a long long time of not reading books and I read convenience store woman, while it completely makes sense plot wise, it's definitely written in a sterile deadpan way. Honestly I like it because it was easy to read but I wonder if it's in any way related to how Japanese translates into English.

No. 169937

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Reading picrel, about 25% through. It's fine… kind of slow-paced so far, and written in a way that feels kind of try-hard.

Honestly I find the "sterile" vibe very charming and unique. I love how a lot of Japanese literature feels so dreamy.

Let a girl dream!

No. 169938

samefag but why are the reviews on the cover trying to make it sound like a romcom? I didn't really find it "funny" or "quirky," I thought it was an insightful look into a woman rejecting traditional femininity and societal standards.

No. 169947

I don't know but they irked me before I even opened the book.
>as intoxicating as a sake mojito
g-get it haha it's a japanese book lol!

No. 169960

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i genuinely hate reviews on covers so much, they ruin everything and are often so off the mark. i wish they were just stickers put on those plastic foils that books often come in so they weren't printed on the cover. nothing more annoying than having a book you love in your shelf and then it says that stephen king liked it too - who even gives a fuck? i get that it's a marketing tactic but i just hate it so much. it's why i stopped buying physical books completely and only buy hardcover editions of books i already read and loved if they are really beautiful. idk what's the english term but in german it's called 'schmuckausgabe' and refers to books that have exceptionally pretty cover designs (see pic) and are meant to look great in shelves.

No. 169961

I agree. I don't think we have a special name, but everyone knows where to find the nicer covers. Folio Society is very popular in England.

No. 170043

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Reading Stiff by Mary Roach - a nonfiction book about cadavers. "This is a book about notable achievements made while dead."

Only a few pages in, but reading a nonfiction book by a woman is refreshing. Mary Roach seems to specialize in weird/fascinating nonfiction.

No. 170044

OMG< I read this book in middle school and LOVED it. It's brilliantly written, interesting and very informative. I highly suggest you check out her other books after you finish this one.

No. 170057

Definitely planning on it! Her writing style seems easy to digest, yet so informative. What are your favorites by her? And any other nonfiction recs? I'll learn about anything really!

No. 170140

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Any anons into Japanese horror/mystery lit? What have you read?

Jusft finished picrel and it was amazing. I'm a big ero-guro fan and the tension this book made me feel was absolutely fantastic. I especially loved the references to 1920s Japan with its mix of western and eastern influences. I'm really looking forward to reading more Edogawa Ranpo but also would love to discover more of these kinds of books.

No. 170166

the protagonist of this book is 100% a lolcow user. you know she’d be sperging on here

No. 170248

You'd probably really like Yukio Mishima if you haven't already read his stuff. The ones I've read are Confessions of a mask (about a closeted gay man with ero-guroish tastes, although everything happens in his imagination), Thirst for Love (about a woman so horny for her house's gardener she goes insane), and The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea (about a weird schoolboy cult plotting a murder).

No. 170252

Currently reading Le Grand Meaulnes (translated to English). Reminds me a lot of 70s shojo BL like Kaze to Ki no Uta lol.

No. 170253

It's super common in child and teen fiction, actually. Vampire Diaries and Gossip Girl (I think) are other examples.

No. 170274

All I know about this guy is that he was such a big fan of Edgar Allan Poe that he used a Japanized version of his name as pen name, do you think their works are similar?

No. 170299

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i looked up his bio on goodreads and man i was not expecting this

No. 170331

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The Mere Wife
A friend gave it to me for my birthday. Its supposedly a 21st century retelling of Beowolf with feminist themes and I finished reading it, I fucking threw it, I've never read a single book that has had this many Tropes I despise in one text

>unresearched depictions of military combat and the middle east

>Unrealistic Woke kids
>Infantilizing/patronizing depictions of minorities
>pointless and badly handled racial commentary which is a big part of the book btw
>unironic use of the word "Queer"

no offense to white women but this is the most "woke white woman" Novel I have ever read and also Beowulf is George Zimmerman in this novel

No. 170341

Oh god, you don't know shit yet. It wasn't normal ritualistic suicide, he tried to commit suicide after attempting to overthrow Japanese government. He made a speech that got drowned out by helicopters. Of course he went with seppuku and had to be finished by a partner in crime. I think he had a big problem cutting off Mishima's head.
If you are not aware yet, Mishima was a giant nationalist obsessed with samurais etc

No. 170343

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>With a prepared manifesto and a banner listing their demands, Mishima stepped out onto the balcony to address the soldiers gathered below. His speech was intended to inspire a coup d'état to restore the power of the emperor. He succeeded only in irritating the soldiers, and was heckled, with jeers and the noise of helicopters drowning out some parts of his speech. In his speech Mishima rebuked the JSDF for their passive acceptance of a constitution that "denies (their) own existence" and shouted to rouse them, "Where has the spirit of the samurai gone?"
I recommend reading the entire Wikipedia note about this, shit is wild

No. 170350

Please stop reading this. Please. I’m saying this out of love and kindness stop reading retarded books by retarded authors, go and jerk off on your husbando’s pillow like a respectable and dignified woman

No. 170373

Nta but what's so bad about this book?

No. 170414

"Beowulf is George Zimmerman in this novel"

I fucking died, lmaooo I can't but then I went and checked the authors wikipedia and you know she wrote that whole thing herself nvm the pic lemony snicket she ain't!

No. 170450

2 week late reply, but I had been excited about this one, til I kept hearing really bad things about it. The last time that happened was with The Wives by Taryn Fisher, and I read it because I thought it would be fun to join in on hating it. That being said, I hated it so much that I genuinely regretted wasting the time it took to read it, which is why I decided not to read The Maidens because I was afraid it would happen again. So I just decided to spoil myself for it. Honestly I kind of regret doing that though instead of reading it, I'll never know if I would have seen the twist coming or not.

No. 170467

He's named Ben Woolf and the main character even name drops Treyvon Martin(I swear I'm not making this up) at the same time she references how tall her son is but white society will never accept him and view him as a monster cause he's "brown", It's the most ham-fisted racial commentary I've read
I'm sure you've already figured out what's gonna happen

No. 170483

Women like her are why women in general get automatically written off as retarded when it comes to modern issues, like the Rittenhouse trial.

No. 170486

what happened with the rittenhouse trial?

No. 170634

ayrt, i read some reviews on goodreads about it but i decided to give it a go anyways. i'm not so desperate that one bad book would ruin my life (people on gr are sooo overdramatic when a book isn't perfect wtf) but yeah. like i said, it's an enjoyable read but it doesn't leave a big impression on you or move you in any way. kind of like a beach read, i guess?

No. 170730

I mean, tru. It's just that I have like a million other books I want to read and extremely limited amount of time I can actually read them so when I read one that is disappointing I just think damn I could have actually been reading something good. I guess I could have opted for the audiobook but the wait times on Libby are always really long for new books.

No. 170761

take this scrote-tier opinion elsewhere

No. 170762

Ugh, I hated this book too. And what really gets me is that I think it could have actually been great with a little tweaking. If she'd just fucking stuck to making the book about the moms, it could have been something really new, and complex, and I think WAY more in her wheelhouse. Like, all the race stuff really did feel so hugely condescending, you're completely right, though I do think there's….a version of what she tried to do there that works. But these perfect anti-racist woke boys falling in luv just stick out so weirdly and stupidly, compared to what were the only really interesting parts of the book, imho, which were about the moms. The Woolf mom, I've forgotten her name, seemed like she was really going to become something cool early on, and I expected it to end up being this story about these two weird, hostile, interesting women fighting this shit out. She's clearly so much more comfortable writing about women, and willing to take more interesting risks and just make them actual fucking characters. But that isn't what the book ends up being about. And "Beowulf, but retold in suburbia and it's about fucked-up moms" is just way more fucking intriguing than what it actually is.

No. 170793

Does anyone else have trouble managing time when it comes to reading? When I really get into a book, I find it very tough to put it down and do the stuff I need to do, because I just want to keep reading. Last weekend I completely neglected all of the studying I should've done in favour of reading, I went through 3 books before I got bored of it and finally found the will to study.

No. 170810

I agree, I already had this Idea or retweeting some of the books concept
about a badass Veteran mom who lives in the woods and her strong but socially awkward son who refuse to leave their territory against a system that wants to take all what they have from them

No. 170867

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Has anyone read the edible woman? This book was the beginning of my radfem era

No. 170888

Your post made me realize that I don't think I've ever read a nonfiction book written by a woman. What the fuck

No. 170890

nta but another great nonfiction book by a woman, with a similar macabre subject, is The Royal Art of Poison

No. 170892

I read this bc anons mentioned it. It was a fun enjoyable read.
Nta but I’ll note that down!

No. 170975

Consider googling the symptoms of ADD. Do you also have anxiety around studying?

No. 170978

No, but I've always wanted to, and now you have me really thinking about buying a copy. If you've read other Atwood stuff, how do you think it compares? I already really like work, faves being Robber Bride, Alias Grace, Penelopiad, and Handmaid's Tale, ofc.

No. 170982

Read the description, not gonna lie sounds kinda cringy and pretentious

No. 170983

How so?

No. 170989

I really fucking hate allegories

No. 171002

Nta but of Atwood's work this was my first and still my favorite. I remember being shocked to learn she was only 23 when it was published because her style is already so fully formed, complex and clever in a sharp, direct way. Imo it's not as polished as her other works but I like it, the style contrasts with the absurdity of some aspects of the novel and makes it seem more "sharp" somehow and not totally abstract. Sort of like a combination of The Bell Jar by Plath and The Vegetarian by Han Kang.

No. 171007

Ooo, that's a really interesting description. Alright, I'm pulling the trigger on this one.
Shine on, you crazy diamond

No. 171014

does anyone have recommendations for sort of isolation horror? like two people trapped in space or in any other place where they have to rely on each other but maybe one is manipulating the other or both are manipulating each other? no demons or aliens or anything, just psychological horror. i found the luminous dead on zlib today but all the reviews talk about how kweer the book is and not if it's good horror.

No. 171040

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Seconding this rec request

No. 171067

Maybe you could try rewarding yourself for studying by reading a few pages? Eg: finish notes on 1 powerpoint, you can read 10 pages. It does take some self-control though.

No. 171098

the closest thing I have to recommend would be The Ritual by Adam Nevill

>4 friends on a hiking trip, one of them gets his leg injured. can't find their way out of the woods, they start finding creepy abandoned cabins and shit. they start getting in fights with each other and running out of food.

the book gets really fucking weird in the second half though

No. 171099

NTA saw the movie and liked it, so the book is probably also good

No. 171139

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Any other Kojimafag gonna read The Creative Gene?
I will hug any anon that can explain to me why Japanese video game creators (well, maybe Japanese people in general) read like that when translated to English. I swear to God it's so specifically different from the way American or British people speak. At the same time, I probably couldn't tell Kojima from Itoi or Iwata (ok, this one is a guess since I haven't read his book yet - I'm pretty sure an interview with another Nintendo guy read the same).

No. 171144

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I might read it if it's good because I'm also a kojimafag. If you ever read it, I would be really intrested on what you thought about it and if you recommend the book or not!

No. 171174

Is it so strange to realize people from different countries have different ways of speaking? There have even been studies that show speaking various languages not only changes how people express themselves but their views of certain situations and emotions. Language is highly influenced by the culture it's derived from, and on top of that sentence structure is completely different between English and Japanese. Yes, a lot of Japanese sounds stilted and weird when translated directly into English, just as English sounds stilted and weird when translated directly into Japanese. This is why localization teams are important, because they not only translate words but whole concepts between cultures. (So far as I know they are more common when translating video games and to some extent manga over books or casual interviews.) You'll get a lot of debate on whether translating as literally as possible is for the best because it preserves the original content of the writing or whether translating ideas is better because it gives people outside the culture a clearer idea of the overall "vibe" the person is communicating.

Japanese is also a very indirect and context-dependent language with it being assumed that the listener is intuiting details based on the overall context of the conversation, so sometimes it's hard to accurately translate something without taking the full conversation into account. As a very brief example if you asked a Japanese person if they were free to see a movie over the weekend, they might respond "Sore wa chotto…" which literally translates to "That's a little…" which makes absolutely no fucking sense in English. But as an intuitive listener you would understand that's the polite Japanese way of saying "Nah not interested" so you might simply translate it as, "No thanks, I've got other stuff going on/just want to laze around all day" which is how a blunt English speaker would approach it.

No. 171234

If you're okay with manga, then Kokuhaku (Kawaguchi Kaiji)

No. 171237

Thank you for taking your time to give me a quality reply!!!
>Is it so strange to realize people from different countries have different ways of speaking? There have even been studies that show speaking various languages not only changes how people express themselves but their views of certain situations and emotion
I'm aware of the differences, many of my PHD classes were about language and the way it shapes reality while being shaped by it. Maybe I was unclear, but I absolutely did not mean it in a negative way, I find it very pleasant to read. I just cannot put my finger on what makes it feel so different, beyond Japanese people enjoying using metaphors and the royal you (based on the translations that I read, I'm aware it may be the indirectness that you mentioned). The same thing makes me wonder about Japanese song lyrics. They also read very different than English once and once more, I don't know what makes them feel so different — maybe except generous use of imagery, metaphors and allegories (as in jumping from one to another).
>As a very brief example if you asked a Japanese person if they were free to see a movie over the weekend, they might respond "Sore wa chotto…" which literally translates to "That's a little…" which makes absolutely no fucking sense in English.
Ah, I immediately understood it as "That's a little too much", but it's true it doesn't really make sense. You gave me a reason to learn Japanese someday. The linguistic differences are actually interesting (though probably also frustrating), so it seems like it's worth spending time on it. My native language isn't weird enough to poorly translate to English, so I was kinda biased when it comes to learning new languages (what's the point if 99% of things is in English anyway?).
Your example reminded me of apparent diplomatic issues resulting from misunderstanding Japanese politeness (saying something that means no, but which sounds like agreement if you don't know about it).

No. 171266

Do nonas have any recommendations of books or authors for someone who is a fan of Mona Awad, Sayaka Murata, and Ottessa Moshfegh? My friend has been on a huge reading kick, so I was thinking of getting her some more books for Christmas. These are some of the authors I remember her talking about over the last year, so I know she likes them but obviously I'm not going to get her books from those authors since I'm sure she's already read most of them.

No. 171280

>We Have Always Lived in the Castle by Shirley Jackson
Two sisters are mostly isolated with their sick uncle after a family accident makes them the target of fear and hatred by the villagers nearby. The sisters share an unhealthy, codependent relationship that is tested when their estranged cousin visits. You might like Jackson's stuff in general, a lot of her work deals with isolation, alienation, and unhealthy relationships, e.g. Haunting of Hill House.
>The Beguiled by Thomas Cullinan
An injured Union soldier stumbles upon a Virginian school for young women at the height of the American Civil War. As they nurse him back to health, he tries to pit the women against each other via seduction and manipulation to prevent them from handing him over to the Confederate military after he's healed, but they're not as oblivious as he thinks.

No. 171339

sharp objects by gillian flynne , boy parts by eliza clark, love and virtue by diana reid, milk fed by melissa border

No. 171352

adding The New Me, Animal by Lisa Taddeo… there were a few recommendation for Moshfeg-like books in the previous thread

No. 171385

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currently reading the YA offering by genderqueer fujoshi author cs pacat. not quite sure what to think so far, it been so long since i’ve read YA fantasy

No. 171389

I don't know why but just by seeing this book's cover i knew it was written by a fakeboi

No. 171463

honestly i feel like she uses this genderqueer identity to avoid accusations of being a typical straight woman “fetishising gay relationships” since everything she’s written centres around m/m relationships. i picked up this book because as an australian i want to support australian authors and also because i enjoyed captive prince so i’m curious how she’ll write YA

No. 171474

So we have come full circle into not identifying as women when publishing books. Amazing.

No. 171476

Oh my god you’re right….

No. 171494

Ugh this guy is such a fucking hack. I hate him.

No. 171563

I'm the same anon as >>169651 and I've just finished the book. I think I really liked it

No. 171574

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TRA terminology makes so many books sound so unappealing… i see an interesting book and think i wanna read it and then the publisher put something like "creepy page-turner with a stunning queer love story!" on the back and it just makes me want to hurl and not read the book anymore. yes i'm gay, yes i'm homophobic, yes we exist.

No. 171578

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Yeah, I actually had to suppress a sight when I was with some friends and they started talking about ~kweer~ literature.
Please, just say it’s a story in a fantasy setting about two guys or two girls who are really into each other, or that it’s a story about some spicy heterosexual couple composed by a guy and a self-hating woman.
Hell, I would love to read a story about a self-hating woman who comes to terms with her identity or something like that. I don’t want to read about someone who then has to live as a “non-man” as if being a woman was that much of a curse.
I also despise how everything has to be so heavily dependent of genderbullshit. It’s a fucking magical world with magic and shit, but you want your characters to hate themselves because oh no, a guy wants to wear pink! The travesty! Or a girl wants to wear pants! Horrifying! You can literally erase all of that and focus on the important shit of the plot, biological realities and gender roles shouldn’t be such an important thing in a story that is about magic or robots.

No. 171585

>You can literally erase all of that and focus on the important shit of the plot, biological realities and gender roles shouldn’t be such an important thing in a story that is about magic or robots.
this is exactly the thing. they never just come up with a world where everything is possible because then they might realize that, oh no, actually this world is boring as fuck because it's our world. you absolutely can wear pants as a woman or pink as a man (to use your examples kek) and no one will shoot you for it. they always focus on their transness and how stunning and brave they are for being trans and that's their only personality trait. it's never about coming up with something that actually frees them of real world constraints, it's only navel gazing about non issues because they have no actual issues to worry about.

and yeah, i also have friends that always try to peddle me kweer books because tehe, anon, you're gay, right? but i always just frown and say i'm not interested. i have a personality outside of my sexuality, which is probably shocking considering the state of the world right now.

No. 171586

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Can somebody explain why I can't find an ebook of this anywhere? I checked kindle, nook store and Google play. Something tells me it's not in the itunes store either. There also isn't an audiobook of it. I don't understand.

No. 171587

No. 171589

Here it is as an epub: https://au1lib.org/book/4427101/4c0a81
Do you mean that addition or something?

No. 171593

No. You literally can't buy an ebook of it on any of the main platforms that sell ebooks and there's no audiobook of it in existence (that I could find). The epub copy I can only read from my phone which I don't like doing (it hurts my eyes) and to send it to my Kindle I'd have to donate, and if I'm going to donate it would make more sense to just buy the book. Also my phone isn't even letting me open the link >>171587 gave

No. 171594

No. 171601


No. 171607

>to send it to my kindle i'd have to donate
Wait, why are they making you donate?

No. 171609

You can read it without donating but if you want to be able to read it on your Kindle you have to donate (unless there's some way around that that I don't know of)

No. 171617

as a gay person i hate reading those ~queer non fiction books/poetry about the author ruminating on their identity and describing sex and bodily functions/parts in the most disgusting terms possible. i saw some excepts of a story about a lesbian woman dealing with her girlfriend transitioning and at one point she was like ‘i kissed your breasts goodbye. you started hormones and now you fuck me like a man and want me like a man. not like a woman” bleugh disgusting. i wish people would just be normal about being gay, not this pretentious bullshit

No. 171624

What would you say is your favorite book of all time? Looking to read more out of my comfort zone, so any genre is fine.

No. 171629

if you have an epub file, just put it on your kindle via Calibre. Calibre is free, open source and does file conversions too. Why do you need to send anything. Use a cable

No. 171673

AYRT, I'm glad you liked it! I definitely also felt the main character sounded like a lolcow user at times, hah.

No. 171680

What was the book called?

No. 171681

You can just take the epub and convert it to .mobi with a converter like this: https://convertio.co/epub-mobi/. I have a kindle and that's what I do. I'm not sure what you mean by sending but you can just connect your kindle with your laptop by a cable and drag the file from your downloads into the kindle files. (Or you can use calibre like another anon said but I find calibre difficult to use personally and just another app clogging up my laptop).

Never buying a Kindle again btw.

No. 171683

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>i wish people would just be normal about being gay
i'm >>171574 and i completely agree with you. the way people treat being gay these days reminds me of the lol random zomg toast!!! era from when i was a teenager. i just want this shit to be over. i'm pleasantly surprised when there's a gay couple in a book (i read a crime fiction book a few months ago and it was for well adjusted adults so the fact that the female main character was married to a woman was not used to promote the book) but i don't absolutely have to read about gays like me. at this point, being a well-adjusted adult is quirkier than being a kweerio with 15 labels, 20 mental illnesses and 30 alters/fictionkins.

slightly related, are any of you into percy jackson? i've been thinking about re-reading the series and then catching up on the rest of the riordanverse, but i think i remember people talk about how ~inclusive~ the author is. anyone know how bad it is? is there gender nonsense in there?

No. 171684

NTA but you can literally just convert it and then email it to the @kindle address associated with your kindle device. Make sure the option to accept random files is on then sync your kindle and it should appear. You might have to manually accept it too

No. 171685

the gender nonsense is present in the egyptian series and in the apollo side series. the only diversity quota being met in the main percy jackson series is one or two gay characters that crop up, and it holds up really well during my re-reads. i prefer the old main series percy jackson books heavily to the extended roman-greek series.

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Just wanted to thank you anon, I started reading it because honestly I'm fucking tired of male fantasy books which is, well, most of the fantasy books out there and so far I'm loving it. I have all of these >>162643 on my list, can't wait to finish TPOTOT so I can give them all a go

No. 171704

I had no idea lol, thanks. Not sure if it's easier than just a cable but I'll try it next time I put new books on it.

No. 171744

the essay is called loving outside simple lines by sonya bulos. i read it on tumblr here:

even though i’m a lesbian i just can’t relate to stuff like this

No. 171776

The nordic series has a genderspecial child of Loki and a golem that announces its pronouns.

No. 171778

rick riordan trying to market himself as the woke accepting kids author unlike jkr pisses me off so bad. i wish he would get canceled on twitter for something innocuous so he knows how it feels

No. 171779

well i’m at the halfway point. author has indicated that several random male side characters are bisexual in relationships with men. main male character has flirted with women so far but i don’t think the author is going to give up the money to be made off a m/m series so easily. i’m predicting there’s going to be an enemies to lovers romance between MC and the main male antagonist whom the MC has referred to as being beautiful handsome etc.
main female character prefers wearing pants and her older brothers old clothes and mentions many times looking up to and admiring men. hoping this character stays a girl and a trans/gender fluid plotline isn’t shoehorned into a series set in the 1800s. the author is a genderspecial though so anything is possible.

book’s pace is slow and worldbuilding is clunky. i’ll finish the book but i could have sworn captive prince was better written than this . so far seems to be shaping up to be a basic chosen one narrative but i’m curious if she’s going to subvert this because right now it seems very paint by the numbers

No. 171785

also i should mention this male antagonist was heavily implied to be bisexual within the first few pages of the book. also called another man a bad kitty at one point.

No. 171802

thank you, i looked it up and i guess i'm only reading the core series and heroes of olympus now. maybe it's over the top but i just can't stand gender nonsense in books, especially if the nonsense is dedicated to an entire love interest.

yeah, it feels really shady and almost groomer-ish. he's gonna look back at this and be embarrassed, hopefully.

No. 171958

more observations: this author appears to have a thing for slavery

No. 171960

oof I’m reading this book too anon, but only 1/3 of the way through. It’s alright so far to me but nowhere near a page turner, considering I put it down for about three weeks and only just grabbed it off my desk again today. I hope the female protagonist has a good story, I like her best of the characters so far.

No. 172006

yeah it was very slow at the start but it’s gotten a lot more interesting now. not the best book i’ve ever read but not the worst. if you’ve read captive prince you’ll be able to pick out some similarities lol

No. 172032

Finally cracked this one open and all I've got to say is 'meh'. It started off pretty strong and I tore through most of it in a couple days, but near the end I was so tired of all the purple prose, deus ex machina, and blatantly telegraphed reveals that I had to put it down. The author clearly did her research and put a lot of work into developing this fantasy world/magic system, but it honestly feels like the story exists in service of the worldbuilding and not the other way around. Also, her habits of neatly writing off characters who were no longer plot-relevant, and of having characters dump fast-forwarded exposition on each other after way too many long journeys (I lost count) seriously got on my nerves. I don't hate it, but it does read like a very long YA novel. Take it with you on an airplane or something, just don't expect anything groundbreaking.

No. 172120

well i finished dark rise by cs pacat. all i can say is the title of the book is such an inconspicuous spoiler omg. the last portion of the book made up for the slow start

No. 172251

I need recommendations for fun or thought-provoking nonfiction books!

No. 172312

I just finished reading 'Bunny' by Mona Awad and the ending took me a bit off guard. I'm kind of an idiot so I'm not really sure if I interpreted the ending correctly. So from what I understand, Ava wasn't real and Samantha made her up from a swan, but I guess I'm wondering if all of that stuff with the Bunnies even happened or was Samantha imagining the whole thing? I guess Ava was Samantha's 'bunny' or draft or whatever, but could anyone else see her or was it only Samantha? Did the Bunnies really do all of those weird workshops or did Samantha just project all of that onto them to justify her loneliness? I guess maybe the ending is supposed to make you think about all of this and is purposefully ambiguous, but I just want to make sure I'm not an idiot and misinterpreting what happened.

No. 172414

Anything by Stephen Jay Gould is great, The Panda's Thumb is a good place to start.

No. 172522

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Just read this, not as good/mature as Captive Prince but I enjoyed it and I'm really looking forward to where the series goes from here. It was an easy read but I'd love it to get a bit deeper and darker considering where the plot goes. I'm also looking forward to it becoming popular so a tonne of fanfic gets written kek.

No. 172538

i feel like most of this book was dedicated to setting up the lore and the world building so i hope the next book gets deeper too. i’m surprised this is ya i would have thought she would have at least bumped it up to new adult. it needs a fandom because i bet the fanfiction and fanart would go crazy

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