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This is like eva but with a plot
I partially disagree as Eva has plot, i like both >>187363
yes, its uncensored and has plot as it was supposed to be
Well Bokurano didn't have an ending so impacted by budget cuts and so controversial they had to make a movie called "The End of Bokurano"
I should probably go read the Bokurano manga then…
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I fell in love with this fucking anime so much that I downloaded the OST in FLAC format last night, and I'm so stupidly excited about it that I saved it for today, even though it's only the OP and ED themes and some background music. I can't help it, I just love LotGH on so many levels, and the OP/ED songs are just one of them.
The first and third endings still make me tear up, especially when I sing along.
Anyway, I still need to watch the Gaiden series, but I'm hesitant to torrent them because it'll be a quite a few more gigabytes and I'm running out of space.
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I get that it's a slice of life but I feel like they could've gotten more creative with the shots. The manga had really powerful panels and I feel like they didn't give them justice.
The mangaka seemed to be really happy about it though, so in the end I'm happy it was made at all. She even went as far as to draw the voice actors with the characters they voiced and drawing promos for each ep.
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Only two episodes of Ousama Ranking left! I love the artstyle so much and the latest episode has some really good animation. I'm kind of stressed out to see how this wraps up, the last scene of the episode with Miranjo and the Demon was so unsettling.
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I'm so upset this season is ending it's one of my favorite anime now for sure. The fight between Bojji and Bosse was really cool, I love how they showed him in his true body so you got a scope of his power and heft.
It felt like something from God of War or Attack on Titan with the grand scale of it all. And yes, I'm so curious about Miranjo's relationship with the demon. It was just eating and then smashing and then eating souls in the end? Creepy as hell. It seems like it was also more innocent at one point though.
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90s CLAMP 5ever
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I miss Rayearth. I'm probably just old but I feel like recent shows just don't do shoujo the same anymore. Umi was my fave
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No…I know what you mean. Saint Tail, Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne, Cardcaptor Sakura, Nurse Angel Ririka, Sailor Moon, Utena…just don't make em like that anymore. Pretty Cure is…pretty boring. They like don't even make magical girl shows besides that anymore. Gotta stuff it up with plenty of coomer isekai instead lol
Clef or Ascot for Umi nonna?
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It's Clef for me haha! Lucky Hikaru, she doesn't even have to choose
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I was the person you originally responded too, Clef for me as well! How could you sneak in >>189157
I'm glad someone else feels the nostalgia. I agree a lot of recent shoujo seems shallow or else goes off the deep end trying to make teenagers too edgy. Fushigi Yuugi was one of my favorites that I think rode the line pretty well. Speaking of romantic options, I don't think anyone beat Miaka. Kind of telling that a lot of the more recently popular shows are just remakes of the classics (Sailor Moon Crystal, Fruits Basket, Cardcaptor Sakura: Clear Card). Kageki Shoujo was great though, I really hope they get to continue the series. I'm confounded it was originally published in a seinen magazine
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Back then, shojo manga were more diverse. You'd have a lot of different genres and vibes and protagonists in shojo magazines, but nowadays that's not the case anymore. If Black Butler and Vanitas no Cartes started in the 90s they would have been published in shojo magazines for example. Literally the only guys I know who like Black Butler are turbo gay guys who are into shojo to begin with. I bet if you showed some parts of X to teenage western weebs like action scenes or the scene when Kotori gets dismembered and Fuuma loses his shit
they'd tell you it's an edgy shonen manga and not a shojo manga.
Last time I looked up what shojo manga were popular it was all just a bunch of romcom with love triangles between high school classmates, not sports manga or anime, not magical girls, not urban fantasy with action like X, Angel Sanctuary, anything by Saki Hiwatari, etc. (I wouldn't be surprised if Megaten as a whole influenced a shit ton of shojo manga back then), and they're barely adapted into anime or drama like before. If there are adapted it's just one short season of an anime that serves as a long ad for the manga. Maybe you'll get a shitty Angelique inspired isekai sometimes and that's it. If I'm wrong and missed some interesting recent manga, please tell me.
>>189243>not magical girls, not urban fantasy with action like X, Angel Sanctuary,
god damn, I miss all of this - especially edgy series like X and Angel Sanctuary>Saki Hiwatari
Only heard of Please Save My Earth, is it good or should I start somewhere else? Maybe this is the content I've been looking for
I only read Mirai no Utena from her the story is very similar to Persona 1's snow queen route and Persona 3, I wouldn't even be surprised if the Atlus devs read it
and Ii recommend it if you like weird supernatural stories but I haven't found scans anywhere online. I read it because it's published in French and I managed to find it very long ago at the library and I got the books on Vinted not too long ago even if they're not in a very good state. I've read summaries of her other manga and I'm guessing her other series have similar themes. As for please save my earth I've heard it's good but I've been too lazy to read it. I'll try to someday.
>I miss all of this - especially edgy series
Me too. Now what do we have? Black Butler is very slow nowadays because Toboso is working on a Disney mobage so she's focusing on that, Vanitas no Carte seems good but I need to see what the recent chapters are like because it's been a while and it's less edgy than the series we mentioned so far, I haven't read Toilet bound Hanako-ken but it gives me a similar vibe to Black Butler and Mentantei Loki just from the art and summary. As I said, they're published as shonen manga. Is there anything that can fit in this category that's still ongoing?
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Ha, it is canon after all! Ahh I was thinking of Fushigi Yuugi as well. Obviously Tamahome is canon but mmm that Tasuki I must say! Yes, Kageki was good but started to fall flat toward the end for me personally. I felt the characterization was not fully dimensional.>>189243
Very true. Happy to see Makino posted I think she's one of the best shoujo protags of all time. Indeed, wow… I mean I guess Madoka is 11 years old at this point but people really lost it over the head chomp. Even back then it drove me nuts to see people spouting "this is the first dark mahou shoujo ever!!"
I certainly know of nothing nowadays that matches up.
My fave older show which is overlooked or perhaps just too unknown (despite being on streaming services) is Shamanic Princess. That it's basically forgotten is really puzzling. The animation, voice acting, art designs, music, and story are all amazing.
Anon, a bunch of American millenials played the PS1 game with the horrible localization and completed what was left of the actual game, so don't say that. Joking aside, I know about the snow queen quest because I wanted to see how to unlock it and it's way too complicated. And I've seen people saying that P3 is a very direct sequel of that route for spoiler reasons but we're going off-topic right now.
Anyway, the whole "normal pretty boy who likes video games and his normal classmates in a Japanese city have to deal with demons and a magic tower that fuses with their high school at some point" isn't exclusive to Persona and iirc Mirai no Utena was released before P1. I remember the mangaka giving her opinions on NGE and Escaflowne in her notes while these anime were on-going so it's kinda old now, and she shat all over the last two episodes of NGE. She was also saying she'd like to play a JRPG where you collect hot guys instead of monsters of weapons while opening treasure chests because she was playing Angelique, I need to kind that one.
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I'm Europoor so I downloaded P1 and P2IS on the Vita BUT I have the official French translation of the P2 manga that was released in early 2000s, and the translator notes are pretty funny. It's basically "hey guys, this manga is based on a video game that isn't released in Europe, and the previous game of the series isn't translated either, and the mainline games aren't translated either, and the PS1 is region locked but they're fun games! Hopefully we'll get Persona games in French someday too!" and now in 2022 we have like 4 megaten games translated in French. Shout out to Katsuya for appearing as a cameo when the rest of the characters showing up are original characters.
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>>189364>hey guys, this manga is based on a video game that isn't released in Europe, and the previous game of the series isn't translated either, and the mainline games aren't translated either
Lmao, in the US a similar thing happened with Tokyopop publishing the sequel manga to SMT IF. It’s an ugly manga from the nineties and there were no translations of the game at the time, but they wanted to jump on the gravy train after Persona 3 did so well
I tried playing Persona 1 last year and I don't think I even reached a single boss. Its humor and dialogue irritated me somewhat so that didn't help>>189339>>189294
Thanks I guess I'm reading Mirai no Utena now. Looks good and the author sounds cool.
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Has anyone else seen Jubei-chan 1 and/or 2? I watched 2 because 1 is fucking impossible to find for some reason. There were things I really liked and other things I disliked about it. The fight scenes were super over the top but in a cool way and there was some novelty in the show not dragging out the obvious that Freesia was clearly the Spade eyepatch wielder and the dramatic irony that held, plus the bizarre comedy was fun, but there were parts that bugged me like the blatant male pandering fanservice when Freesia would manipulate Jubei. I wish I could find 1 and watch it, it apparently leaned more into the wacky parody angle than 2 did.
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Fujos hyped T&B up for me but I honestly found S1 really boring. I like Barnaby's style at least. What do you guys think of it?
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I finally decided to watch Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni: Gou. I'm on episode 2 and so far it looks, feels and sounds fairly amateurish, both in phasing and development. The abrupt cuts in audio to make it "serious" or "creep" only accomplishes a high schooler quality. The long paused stares also don't give any sense of creepiness or malevolence, it looks kinda autistic. The character design is also very horrendous (in my humble opinion), I don't mind that they were made by the prolific lolicon Poyoyon Rock, but it just doesn't capture nor it channels the Higurashi spirit very well at all. Hopefully it gets better throughout the rest of it, I'm only in the second episode after all.
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If you think Gou's bad, just wait until Sotsu if you even get there kek. Most of the fandom hated it so you're not alone.
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I hope it's done well, I really like this manga
I just want to hear the Alien’s
I don’t want the twitter zoomers to latch onto this series >>191968
retarded take >>191969
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Did anyone else finish watching? The last two episodes especially 22 were upsetting wtf. Seriously picrel, what in the hell happened? I need to rant about it. I do not understand Daida marrying Miranjo at all. She was a creepy haunted mirror that directed him from behind the scenes to bring about the destruction of his kingdom, killed a bunch of people, would've killed him or at least trapped his soul forever, nearly caused the death of many others including his own mother and brother, and was also romantically involved with his father. Hey ho though spirit of forgiveness, let's bring her back to life and propose! I don't care if Daida is now an angel and Bosse asked him to look after her, it's insanely messed up to just welcome her at the drop of a hat. If the show wants to redeem her fine, but a slight amount of caution would've been great. Not, y'know, immediately deciding you're obsessed with her and making her the queen of the entire kingdom. I'm so weirded out by how happy everyone was with the proposal, the Guard Captain was the only person with any sense.
Then there's Bosse. Hoo boy. I was waiting this whole time for Bosse's complex backstory to be revealed but it turns out, nope. He really was a head empty retard who wanted to be the strongest man in the world. That's it. That was his whole aim in life damn the consequences. Not only that, but he lets a much younger woman support his aims and makes a literal deal with a devil to achieve it. No shit it doesn't feel satisfying, he basically used a cheat code. Miranjo was an idiot to fall for him and sacrifice her demon pal's sanity to fulfill his wish, but I can sort of forgive her for being a terrified child who trauma-bonded to the only person who cared for her. Bosse though has zero exuse. He's a narcissistic adult man who knowingly created and sacrificed his two children to 1) get stronk and 2) stay alive to be with his child lover. Bravo. For a show that mostly has complex, multifaceted characters, Bosse really stands out as an unrelenting piece of shit.
I am okay with the ending and where things are heading with Bojji and Kage. I'm also still interested in Ouken/the three brothers, but if I never see Daida and that group again I'll be just fine with that. Things went off the rails so abruptly and it was really jarring.
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This is official art lol
I don't know why my (female) friend was obsessed with this anime last season.
series written by a pickme for moids and pickmes
try to prove me wrong
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I can't. It really is for pick-mes, kek.
This series is a joke. Pure unadulterated garbage. The epitome of male romcom retardedness. The female lead just happens to be a quirky girl whose weeb interests align with the average failed male otaku's taste (eroge/coomer characters) and even before she falls for the self-insert she's the "dense" type who sees zero problem sitting in his bedroom in a bikini while he touches her all over "for cosplay". It has a "wholesome" episode by the beach but we obviously can't have wholesomeness without some panty shots of the wind blowing her skirt around. She, of course, doesn't even notice. Later in the show she brings him to a love hotel "for cosplay" like its NBD lol y'know she's a totally cool and chill girl who can make jokes about keeping condoms in their wallets for good luck lolol and neither of them realize how weird it is for her to sit on his lap while she poses for cosplay pictures until he pops a boner. She, of course, doesn't notice his growing boner right underneath her. Oh and she had totally zero interest in guys before MCkun btw her popular friend group were just, ugh, way too different from her.
It's so comically bad I feel like I'm being thrown back into the early 2000s with how many archaic tropes it has, except it's trying to present them as a wholesome, pure, budding relationship instead of just doubling down on how retarded some of the situations are and making it comedy. Lol. Lmao. My eyes take a weekly trip to the back of my skull when I read comments about how wholesome the failed males watching it think this anime is.
Supposedly a woman wrote this manga. I would say it's hard to believe because there's a reference in there about an 'adult' loli character's "bald vagina" but nip women are brainwashed doormats so it's not too impossible. Moids use that excuse to convince themselves that this series has a female audience to cope with the fact that it's just another pathetic desperate male romcom.
Now you're making me want to see that train wreck myself to laugh at it with all of you.
>It's so comically bad I feel like I'm being thrown back into the early 2000s with how many archaic tropes it has,
From what you're saying, at least manga from the 2000s were more original for their time and created or popularized tropes instead of copypasting them, so I guess there's also that. From what I've seen, people getting into this manga and anime seem to be zoomers too young to remember Love Hina or shit like that so anything recent seems original to them.
The anime industry gave us multiple stories that downplay rape (oh boy, remember valvrave which seemed super childish like a morning mecha show by sunrise?) and also women like Mari Okada who wrote a girl walking in on her crush fapping to women getting raped on trains (because he's a train autist KEK)
and she still stays in love with him and it's played as normal.
>>192367>It's so comically bad I feel like I'm being thrown back into the early 2000s with how many archaic tropes it has, except it's trying to present them as a wholesome, pure, budding relationship instead of just doubling down on how retarded some of the situations are and making it comedy.
Literally my exact thoughts about this series. Go off my love, burn it to the ground. I have nothing but pure hatred for this piece of shit of an incel wish fulfilment romcom and seeing someone tear into it is like breathing fresh air. I know so many pickmes who self-insert into the main girl and sperg over how pure and wholesome the main character guy is and how their relationship is #goals for female weebs, when the fuck did this needlessly sexualized garbage become anything else than coomer male fantasies? Unironically makes me want to a-log so bad I can't stand it. Fuck this fucking series.
>Supposedly a woman wrote this manga.
As far as I know the gender of the author isn't public, or at least there's no confirmation on the gender or any personal information to begin with. So it might as well be a moid faking being a woman to seem more credible and interesting.
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>>192383>I know so many pickmes who self-insert into the main girl and sperg over how pure and wholesome the main character guy is
Anon who made the post that started this discussion here, and I find it funny how my friend who also self-inserts as the girl wants to stay single and is very critical of men. She does have a very submissive and pick-me taste in romances though, so weird. I prefer something like Dorohedoro which was written by a woman.
It's been a few years since I read and dropped the manga, it got turned into an anime meanwhile. It's one of those "scandalous" coming of age stories about girls and how they find out about sex, one girl cybers all the time and is addicted to it and stuff like that iirc. The main character has a childhood friend who she crushes on, but she also sees him a bit like a brother because he's so childish and also seems to have a thing for trains. One day they are both home alone, and since they're childhood friends she brings him some dinner but finds out he is fapping to train assault porn that's popular in japan, like women getting raped on a public train. I remember anons on 4chan losing their shit in the manga thread when they realized even his porn needs to have trains in some form.
Then mc is shocked and hurt because she never saw him like that, yadda yadda.
What's the name of this mega-pickme? I think I've seen her on Twitter before while I was looking for some femporn source (maybe it was one of those shitty adult otome games that MangaGamer released in the west, or a manga)
I remember her being excited and amazed at the existence of anime porn for women. Yet she chooses to keep consuming hentai that she forced herself to like and to keep pandering to coomer scrotes. Pathetic and sad
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Meanwhile a scrote writing the most popular animation blog-
I'm watching Boogiepop Phantom and I'm at episode 7 and so far, the last episode is my favorite. I was attracted to this show because of the trailer – which turned out to be Boogiepop and Others' trailer, not Boogiepop Phantom – which seemed to be a creepy thriller about fear of passage of time, consequences of escapism, gender melancholia, and fatal – if not paralyzing – nostalgia. It was this sentence: "When a girl is at her most beautiful, Boogiepop comes to take her, so she won't grow any more unattractive." It sets (or seemed to, at least) set femininity and female youth as transient non-place that is posited as an ideal window of perfection. A short window that is already tinged bitter by the inevitability of its own demise, and the hidden consequences of what happens when you cash in far too much for your own good.
Later I found out I was watching a different anime, but the overall themes (so far) aren't straying from my initial expectations. It doesn't seem to zero in on femininity or female adolescence as inevitably tragic, but it does borrow a component of that grief: the inability to adapt to change, to the passage of time, to your childhood spots being razed down and built on again, and again, and again, and your favorite restaurants being ran out of business, and your mother's hands. Especially your mother's hands. One of the quotes I think about often goes talks about how Adam and Eve's fall from Eden was a must for progress, but it was also a loss. In this sense, progress is hopelessly bound around loss, and the two around time. There is a paralyzing horror that digs a crate out of your bones and leaves you brittle, so brittle. That is what I believe this show is about, right until now. It's about copes.
The reason, though, that this is my favorite episode is because it surveyed motherhood. I am uninterested portrayals of motherhood in anime. They're always shallow, if they're generous enough to be so, kek; most of the time they're just really cheesy plot devices. Right at the beginning of the episode, we're introduced to an expecting future mother, who seems to be quite self-driven. She does things on her own terms, including motherhood: she doesn't have a husband, she wants a natural birth, and when, later in the episode, she is told her pregnancy is dangerous, she refuses to give up her baby. Because she does life on her own terms, and, as a mother, she wants "live life to the fullest". There's another mother in the episode, too, the mother of this episode's school girl protagonist. She works hard to afford college for her kid. Until one day, she gets too tired of being a mother, and has an affair with a coworker, and is later caught by her daughter. This is where the trouble is: the distinction between mother and Sexual Needs Haver, between mother and woman. For her daughter, this is a clear distinction; her mother cannot be a fully-developed human being; she's a mother. Not a person. This isn't some revelation, mind you; this is just teenage narcissism – the daughter is unable to see her mother out of the role she has strictly designated for her, she is unable to see her floating free from the role she has in relation to her. She can only see her in relation to her. She can not view her mother independently. Which is where this line comes: "My pregnancy has me that, unlike men, women have two different faces. Her face as a mother and her face as a woman. Like with plants. There are flowers and there are leaves. A leaf tries to absorb as much sun and nutrition as it can, while a flower simply looks as beautiful as it can. The flower is a woman's face, while a leaf is a mother's." I personally disagree with the way this is worded, because it makes it seem like this identity struggle is inherent and not synthetic (if that's the right word…? I think it's native, but not inherent). I think this little speech is what makes Shizue (the daughter) really understand the struggle of this incoherence. The ending is sad, I guess, but I really liked it. I wondered for a while how this episode (titled Mother's Day, by the way) fit into the bigger picture. It seemed clear: at the beginning, Shizue's friend visits her mom and tells her that the town is haunted by the past, and the notebooks she gives her to her helps her to move on. The butterfly memories give her the final push forward. She doesn't succumb to memories as escapism. It's the first semi-OK ending of the series. Will probably have more to think about it after I finish the series.
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I finished yesterday and I completely agree with you. Frankly the whole second half of the show when they return back to the kingdom and people start randomly dying and getting resurrected three times an episode is where I lost my interest in the plot, and didn't understand the point of it. I wish the whole deal with the devil aspect was explored a lot more, and I got the impression that neither Miranjo nor Bosse feel a lot of regret about what they did. Daida marrying Miranjo comes across as such bullshit to me because he's basically just continuing the cycle and repeating his fathers mistake. What's the point of that? It seems like Miranjo is cursed with being moral support for Bosse and his spawn kek.
I'm also way more interested in the three brothers. I really love Hilling and I wish her relationship with Bosse was more defined, she should be way more angry, disappointed, betrayed, any of these. I feel like there were a lot of loose ends. Bojjis ending makes sense though, at least.
sorry anon i meant to NOT watch it kek
Im baffled at how many women are loving this anime in the comments
And because the male MC is so "wholesome" and "innocent" all the pervy shit gets excused because it's just a series of hilarious coincidinks, why, he's just taking this beautiful, big tittied, half-naked girl's measurements for a costume. It's so pure and adorable that the horny, sexy main girl obsesses over ecchi games and cosplays the characters, making the shy main MC so embarrassed! Oh now he walked in on another girl changing from her wet clothes butt naked, hate when that happens tee hee! Now they're having a photoshoot at a love hotel while the guy has an erection from the girl sitting half naked on his lap, oh no!
Like the other anon said it's just every bad 2000's ecchi trope but framed as something to be considered cute instead of eye-roll worthy male fanservice. The girl is a BPD-chan using the autistic MC for her own gain and somehow falling instantly in love with this guy for no other reason than he.. exists I guess. The MC on the other hand is as interesting as a dead fish but because he isn't a complete asshole (as he doesn't have enough personality to be one) that's apparently enough to consider him perfect husbando material. I wouldn't be so mad if this stupid anime was just something male incels dreaming of a qt cosplay gf liked but instead it's shilled as the quintessential portrayal of cosplay and how Marin is so #relatable by being the ultimate pornsick Cool Girl unbothered by male bullshit. Fuck "My Dress Up Darling", I refuse to believe that the author is female until there's solid proof.
. Why does it have so many female fans? Wtf
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Exactly, it makes me seethe so hard. You described it perfectly. I love that there's at least 3 of us here absolutely raging at this anime kek
Anime fans are really getting more and more braindead.
As for the female author, I remember finding her twitter and she posts a lot of pics of her cats and pictures where you can see her hands which leads me to believe it's a woman. At least behind the twitter account.
i recommend megalobox and megalobox nomad.
i saw the trailer too. she acts like an ideal gf for scrotes who likes the dommy mommy trend too, a bit tone down though. The title's cringe and the dude's an annoying bland piece of wet paint. At least the male side character looks like gary from pokemon, idk why that's a pro though.
also another one. i hate that the female love interest is drawn as a 'loli'.
I like Inio's art style. Is this story also about the " deep " male philosophy like Oyasumi Punpun?>>191998
I think I just didn't pay enough attention, but I find Miranjo's story confusing. I was disappointed that her story with the devil didn't have more focus after all the build up in the opening, and I didn't really get the relationship between her and Bosse. Were they really in love? If so, that's creepy. And why didn't Bosse just married Miranjo instead of having two wives?
Also, her redemption can't even be really called that. She got rewarded without doing anything to deserve it, besides having a sad past, which is a cheap attempt to make the viewer sympathize with villains.
With Oyasumi Punpun at least it was unapologetically an angry male story told by an angry male detailing the male mindset in many characters but there's something that really disturbs me about male mangakas previously known for masculine stories switching over to creating series about little girls talking like adult men while still being infantile in a cutesy, condescending way.
I was shocked to realize that the two main girls were supposed to be almost adults, compared to how appropriately mature the high schoolers looked like in OPP Asano really took a dirty lolicon dip. Also this is one of the most boring fucking mangas I've ever read, OPP was a drag at times but at least it kept my interest up enough to see what happens next. Definitely tranny fuel with the lolis, dystopian landscape and big machines going boom boom.
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>>192608>Is this story also about the " deep " male philosophy like Oyasumi Punpun?
Not really, it's one of his most lighthearted works. I really loved the atmosphere of college aged girls hanging out coupled with the uncertainty of the world ending, I started reading it during the pandemic and it felt really relatable. I know people call his stuff scrotey but I have a soft spot for Inio so I'm biased. Still dedede is probably his least scrotey work.
these type of series that focus entirely on the female love interest will always be moid gaze by default
the male lead is always a literal who doormat, be it with marin the hypersexualized 15 yr old cosplayer or this new "girlboss" gf or the old school violent tsundere
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>>192667> I wonder how they're turning DeDeDe into an anime when it's just nonsensical dialogue with barely anything else happening.
Fucking this, I guess they will only adapt when the twin tails’ girl spergs about >Watching YouTubers to be able to go to sleep>When she tells best friend to try and suck their teacher’s nipples>that one time she said something about masturbation
To give some “bruh we live in a society (trademark)” moments to the soybois who will sperg about the anime but that never touched the manga.
And then they will show us the alien glitching with their sick ass animation skills, maybe glitch his voice a bit, the alien ship, maybe the cute little aliens for some “uwu moe” mascots to sell merch of I don’t mind though the aliens are cute
And maybe, only maybe, they may show us the fat woman who tries scam people with the aliens as another “bruh we live in a society (trademark)” moment.
Right, I forgot about the forgettable tranny, they will push the tranny down our throats, I can feel it in my bones.
I think that the ideal would be if they cut the filler and make sure to show only the interesting plot relevant shit about the aliens and twin tails girl, but I’m sure it will be mostly filler.
100% this. I've never liked Punpun, but he's a great artist and I can like….get why it exists, even if it's a thing I'm tired of. But I find the "swapped dudes in for widdle lolis" thing so gross. It's such a bizarre thing, b/c they sort of have the appearance of depth – I think if you don't know much about manga/anime, you can see them talking about sex or being gross and be like "oh okay female characters who aren't moeblobs/princesses, cool," but in reality it's like….it's like another variation of dommymommy shit. There's so much anime that presents the ideal woman as being a straight horny nerd dude in a hot woman (or loli's) body. But of course men, and mtfs who are convinced they're women because they relate to "women" created by men for men, love it. I feel like I liked this shit when I was younger mostly b/c I'd never read avant-garde manga by women before.>>192669>And maybe, only maybe, they may show us the fat woman who tries scam people with the aliens as another “bruh we live in a society (trademark)” moment.
Lmfao nona, thank you for making me realize this is one of the things I've always hated about his work w/o being able to articulate it
>>192667>I wonder how they're turning DeDeDe into an anime when it's just nonsensical dialogue with barely anything else happening
I enjoy Asano manga (because it's fun to me, not life-changing like what >>192661
is saying), but couldn't get into this one. Thanks for explaining why.>>192658
Bandwagonning since OP knows a lot about josei. Is there any recent stuff like In The Clothes Named Fat, Helter Skelter, maybe Pięta or Blue (pretty sure I forgot about something significant)? I mean dark and more "realistic". A female Punpun would be awesome kek (and imagine that would be actually hard hitting). When I'm looking up "best new josei lists", almost everything is shoujo-like romance with unrealistic characters. Definitely not what I'm interested in.
I posted this initially but I've never read anything else of his and began reading this before I even knew of this other works. Like another nonnie
mentioned I really like the backdrop of the spaceship looming over everything and the dynamic between the girls. Kek I even forgot about the tranny.
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I really liked the Shikimori manga, mainly because the mc is so handsome, and their relationship was really wholesome&realistic (no ecchi!). But just from watching the trailer I can tell the anime is gonna be hot garbage. For comparison, one of the random first pages from the manga. Guy gets almost as much page time as the girl plus he is drawn with great care. MC in trailer looks nothing like in the manga (purple hair? really? his face looks like it's melting). If they didn't bother to animate him properly for the trailer, I can't imagine it'll be any better in the actual anime.
As for recs from some series 2019-2022:>Ascendance of Bookworm>Kemono Jihen>The Case Files of Jeweler Richard
Oh he looks a lot cuter in the manga. >Ascendance of Bookworm
Aghhhh I've been meaning to get around to this one for almost a year now. Are you suggesting the LN or is the anime good to go? I will absolutely start this as soon as I finish my final exam this year.
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Funny thing about mentioning YoI, I didn't realize at first but it's being released by the same studio (MAPPA)! >>192966
Oh dear, I haven't read any of her manga so that's disturbing to hear kek. I like her art style though and hopefully this one will just focus on the dancing and the characters supporting each other instead of questionable "romance" scenes. I hope there will be lots of the silver-haired guy though, he's cute. >>193003
Thanks anon, I had not heard of that series! Going to check it out in the meantime.
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Gundam finally has a female MC!
Eat shit Tomino, you daddy issues riddled sex pest.
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Kek nevermind, this is some prime scrotery
I'd still like a quick rundown though
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Oh boy, there's a TON of shit. Look at his life around the time he started working on gundam and his bitterness that a woman he liked decided to marry another man. Also his mommy issues in his writing, especially about Char.
Imho: watch it if you want to see cute guys suffering in war and having mental breakdowns. Gundam doesn't pull punches and some installments are really well written.
The women in gundam surprisingly have personalities (though the original series is pretty trash), but Tomino's logic is basically that men are expandable and women serve to preserve the species and life, so they can't be soldiers and are too emotional. Gundam had a lot of perverted shit (naked sayla poster in the 80s that sold out…) but the series themselves sexualize the male characters as well and beat them up. Oldfags will be mad at me suggesting this, but watch gundam thunderbolt or the first origin movie as a start, they are well animated and short, give you a good intro.
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So I can just ignore the director's(?) perversion because it's too subtle in the actual series then? I mean, I could do that but I don't think I'll be able to take pic related seriously anymore.
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NTA and I'm a Gundam n00b but I started with the original movie trilogy (the original series but condensed). I didn't notice any perverted shit except for that one scene where Mirai (iirc) is seen topless,
but I'm aware that there are more scenes of that sort in the TV series.
The female characters aren't as important as the male ones so you'll notice that right away, although they're still there I guess? I don't think it was that bad, especially for such an old anime, but it was still frustrating. I liked Mirai tho
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What are your favourite tragic anime? I'm looking for more recs.
For me it's:
>Mobile Suit Gundam: Thunderbolt
>the hard hitting episodes of Natsume Yuujinchou
>Hotarubi no Mori e
It's important to separate edgewank with gore from emotional tragedy though, I do prefer catharsis and healing.
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Does anyone have recs for anime similar to Britney's Break the Ice music video in either aesthetic/story? I know the big ones like Ergo Proxy or Science Railgun as an older weeb but I'm always down for obscure series especially!
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Finally got around to watching great pretenders. I loved it. This is the first time I've been invested in an anime in like 10 years.
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This show was to funny for its own good. I'm surprised troons haven't latched onto it.
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Not wholly tragic, I think I'd call it bittersweet, but Michiko to Hatchin. The storylines that are outright tragedies are gutting, but in such a good way.
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It's one of the most popular shows so you probably already know about it, but her vibe reminds me of Julia from Cowboy Bebop. Ghost in the Shell is another "badass lady in futuristic world" series. She's also giving a bit of Angel from Big O.
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As gory as it is, this is surprisingly one of the animes with the least amount of male fanservice I've ever watched. Just pretty samurais killing ugly samurais
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tried watching card captors. it was pitched to me as an anime that was developed by a group of women (CLAMP) and it is artistically a very cute and well written show but some of the reoccurring themes bother me greatly.
these are mild spoilers for episodes in the series so
>sakura has a crush on her older brother’s friend/boyfriend
cute, handled well. her little boy counterpart also has a crush on him. not bothered by this but it sets a future precedent for age gaps in the series
>sakuras dad was a high school teacher who married + impregnated his student
sakura’s dad is presented as a handsome, well liked man. he is called out on the abusive nature of their relationship by sakura’s mom’s friend but this plotline ends in forgiveness on all sides. it’s also noted that sakura’s late mother’s family does NOT fuck with the dad.
>fellow elementary student has a crush on their teacher
the girl makes comments about the male teacher being similar to her father and brings him sweets and such during the school day in occasional episodes… kinda weird but he doesn’t play into it soooo i’d say it’s handled pretty normally.
this is the one that got me though
>sakuras older brother is groomed by his middle school teacher and they have an intimate relationship until she moves overseas
i was like… no. this anime doesn’t know what it is or what it’s doing. she moves back home and becomes a mentor for sakura, no backlash or mention of her molesting one of the main side characters of the series. the anime plays it off like ~they understand each other because magic~ but the context of a little girl having a crush on her teacher/older friend is entirely different than a middle school boy meeting up with his fucking teacher after school to ‘profess their love’ for months… the kicker is when she goes back overseas initially, she doesn’t say anything to break it off with him until the night before she leaves. the brother is freshly a couple years out from his mom dying.
big ass waste of time imo
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I just finished Boogiepop Phantom and I love it and I recommend it to everyone here. A lot of anime from the early 2000s are about escapism and being unable to truly and meaningfully face reality and change, but I think Boogiepop is one of the best. Picrel is what the author wrote on his book (it's based on a book), and it sums the themes so well: evolution as change, dealing with past, and dealing with the passage of time. I keep thinking about the scenes where they're rebuilding the city – "as you get older, things change" – and think back to spots that I often frequented a few years back that I no longer recognize now.
>>194803>sakuras dad was a high school teacher who married + impregnated his student
This never sat right with me and felt weird even as a kid when I didn't fully get it. To say they dealt with her dad being a pedophile
and the predatorial nature of a high school teacher seducing his 16-year-old child bride is way too generous. They really just brushed it off as 'well it was a bad thing but in the end he was a good husband so it's fine.' It's been a long time since I watched or read this series but I believe it wasn't even the age gap and power imbalance that were presented as the worst aspect, but the fact that Nadeshiko's cousin was "jealous" of their relationship. Way to ignore the massively messed up dynamics they chose to include.
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You've got me hooked on this nonny
and I've been watching over the past few days. For the most part I like it. The female characters are good especially Chinatsu and Chizuru. Tatara's whimpy personality is really annoying but at least the other characters tend to boss him around a lot and call him out on his whining. I was also caught off guard by the frequent fan service. It's not the worst out there but somehow I've managed to avoid it in many of the recent shows I've watched so seeing continual shots like picrel and the boys getting nosebleeds all the time is annoying especially when it deals with high school age characters. Nothing new for anime though I guess.
wish it has s2 too. but i did hear it has a game but im not interested in playing. >>194854
i wanted about to warn about the fanservice, as foggy my memories about it. some, maybe more, were only included in the show. idk why they ramp it up in the anime when the manga was very mellow about it but i guess its to attract new fans. if that's how they're going for considering the equal number of female and male characters in the show.
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wanted to post a pic, but got distracted by work. IDK wtf Clamp was thinking, really hope they were retarded and not actively trying to groom little girls to be victims
of pedophiles. The result could have been the same either way… I cannot believe this manga is celebrated and even got published in my country
>>194898>not an attempt to groom little girls
Yeah, them being retarded is a more valid
option - still kinda disturbing.>>194901>You need to chill
Could have stopped reading right there, kek.
I think that part of CCS was majorly fucked up, especially with sHe'S sO mAtUrE bullshit.>Remember this is ultimately fiction
It's a fiction for children, depicting a pedophilic relationship as sweet and wholesome. That's worse than in an adult media (IDGAF about ~problematic
~ otome or BL) since children are more affected by it. It can be actually dangerous. The Rika plot is worse than a high school teacher dating and marrying his own student, which irked the other anon.
I'm a big fan of old Clamp, but not really of CCS. Beyond the fucked up relationships, it's just boring. Would take MKR over it any time.
Speaking of, when will we get an ending for X? Is Kamui still waiting to get fucking stabbed? I
Has Fuuma finished his sentence yet?
I fucking hate this new brand of """wholesome""" ecchi scroteshit, also with the cutesy shōjo-like art style, are they trying to attract a female audience? Unfortunately it seems like it's working kek
Also, I'm not sure how accurate this is, but I've read that the pedophilic bishōjo style was literally copied from the shōjo style that female mangaka created many decades ago, just sexualized for scrote audiences.
What I wouldn't give for X ending. I reread it every two years or so. I love TB too.
does anyone know similar weeb content?>>194945
Kobato is over
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>>194863>i wanted about to warn about the fanservice, as foggy my memories about it.
No worries! Yeah, it definitely feels out of place considering the treatment of the women is positive otherwise. Some aspects that stood out are how Chinatsu bluntly calls out the male-centric judging of dance, the fact Tatara doesn't get to break up Shizuru/Hyodo as a pair but understands they're way above his level, and the way he respects his partners and doesn't want to "dominate" them as the lead. Overall the pacing is really good and everyone except the unrepetent assholes like Kugimiya is nice. I also just realized the mangaka is a woman so not surprising there's a strong focus on the female characters' side of things and the struggles they face.
It's fiction for teenage girls, it's not like you're seeing this in shows for actual little girls like Precure.
And those same teenage girls are reading "problematic
" otome and BL so you should definitely care if it worries you in CCS.
But at the end of the day it's fiction and a side couple in a manga isn't what's going to groom a girl into dating an older dude.
>>194995>unrepetent assholes like Kugimiya
Kek okay I'll stop blog posting but I feel like a jerk now that I'm almost finished and it's been revealed Kugimiya was suicidal and had massive social anxiety and really adored his father replacement ojiisan teacher
. Love that everyone is so realistic and multifaceted though!
>>194998>And those same teenage girls are reading "problematic" otome and BL so you should definitely care if it worries you in CCS.
Not my fault if you don't see a difference between a grooming material addressed to children (as CCS is) and content for older teenagers/adults that unsupervised kids can access, at the very best (better ban anything that is more offensive than an episode of Teletubbies!). Media is often being used by pedos to romanticise and normalize pedophilia to their victims
(beyond what >>195019
said). If lolicon porn has been used by them, then CCS is even better, since it's so "innocent", cloyingly sweet and presents damaging age gap relationships as something that true love triumphs over.
In my opinion normalizing pedophilia has no place anywhere, but especially not children's media, for many reasons including children learning more from it than adults do. Tell a regular person about a comic for little girls where a 10 year old is dating her 30 years old teacher and see how they react, lol.just for the record, I don't support pedo and pedo glorifying content in other media, if it wasnt clear – children shouldn't be presented as sexual objects, ever
I'm gonna refrain from further replying since everything's been said from my side.
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For the anons who were looking for shoujo/josei adaptations, My Happy Marriage anime was announced. I think this one is a shoujo and originally a LN. Composer is the same as VEG so there's the music to look forward to.
PV is here https://youtu.be/_8JKDloLAhw
lmao, the name says it all I guess>>195015
I'd say it's even worse in Japanese media since it took them a while to stop portraying child-adult romantic relationships as normal or good, when it wasn't that common/didn't exist anymore in contemporary Western media. Japanese women have kinda fucked up tastes in romance (see also: the majority of Japanese otome games).
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Does anyone have recs for animes that the characters are cute but not in that typical moe shit way, like the vibe I’m thinking of is Taiyo Matsumoto\Sciencesaru where they do look cute but I can’t ever imagine coomers going wild for it like they would for say Dragon Maid or some similar seasonal anime. ’ve seen Barakamon and the other ones like it (udon and sweetness and lightning)
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Just saw Belle. I thought it was so stupid and didn't even look that great. I feel robbed of my two hours, I don't understand how everyone parades this movie like it is so emotional when it was so barebones.
one of the things i liked is that there's no romance subplot. i'm not demonizing if there's any later on in the story but i'm glad we get to see the characters becoming friends. before i watched the show i dreaded a rush romance between every dance pair shown. it's one of the annoying things in pair-related sports, fans and even judges romanticizing the pair to an extent sending death threats to either of them for having a romantic interest for someone who isn't their dance partner. it happened in pair-skating.
it didn't help that there are movies out there that solidify that stereotype.
Things I didn't like are very spoiler-y so read if you don't care about it.It is literally metaverse beauty and the beast for weebs. The metaverse in the movie looks ugly as fuck, only the girl's and the dragon-boy's designs are kind of okay. There is no appeal of that metaverse VR world, there are no rules estabhlished, people just pop in and out for no reason and… Float? No one ever talks about what people do in the VR World. There are also no company/admin presence even when users's safety is threatened. It also has that "shy girl sings and blows up overnight and becomes super popular" trope. The VR world uses CG animation which just adds to its ugliness, the main villain/Gaston is horribly generic and uninteresting (also ugly). Plus they can just log off, but no one fucking logs off and instead have these boring fights. This would be kinda based if movie's main idea was "just turn off your computer if you're getting cyber-bullied" but it wasn't it.
In the end, the dragon dude/The Beast Belle hangs out in the VR world turns out to be an abused kid and Belle wants to help him in real life. So she just changes cities to confront an abusive adult man as a highschool girl. But there were multiple adults and also strong male friends around when she takes the decision to go, yet no one objects or asks to go with her despite seeing that the man was clearly vilolent which was fucking dumb.
So in the end it wasn't pretty enough to be just a pretty spectacle that was about nothing, and it doesn't have a good strong plot to stand on. It was just fluff for shy girls to self-insert to but it wasn't even a good self-insert scenario. My fault for expecting a good anime movie when Satoshi Kon is dead.
Absolutely, I was so worried the focus was going to be on Tatara chasing after Shizuku and trying to become her partner. It not only would've been unrealistic since he's so inexperienced but annoying since Shizuku clearly feels Hyodo pushes her to improve more than anyone else. Tatara admiring them and simply wanting to compete on the same floor was so respectful and wholesome. This show also has some of the most genuine growth I've seen in characters. Tatara's lack of self confidence and cowardice really bothered me at the beginning (love Chinatsu calling that out) but he becomes much more mature and able to stand up for himself by the end. The same with Chinatsu who was always amazing but learned to trust others rather than feeling she needs to face things alone. I may have also cried when it was shown that Akira wasn't just a vindictive bitch but has a massive crush on Chinatsu and only continued dancing to try and keep her attention
. I felt the story was really mature overall despite the showrunners messing with the source material and throwing in boob shots every other episode. Hope it gets a S2!
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It's a movie and a sad one at that, but Princess Kaguya is really beautiful and cute without sexualization. I'd also recommend Houseki no Kuni. I can see how the show might attract genderspecials because it's about a bunch of sexless (but female presenting) personified gems, but I don't engage with the fanbase and that's not the show's focus at all. The mix of 2D and 3D animation is unique but I think it grows on you and the story is engaging.
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Tatami Galaxy is a good one as well. Striking art style. The story is weird and a bit dense/philosophical, intentionally repetitive, but could be your thing.
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I don't know why this show gets so much hate?
I watched it with my husband while it was airing and it was my favorite show of the season after King's Ranking. Marin is adorable and I love that Gojo is an actual character and not a self insert. I feel like some of you guys are just passing judgement without even watching it.
Some anons have clearly watched it and disliked the fanservice, sexist tropes, cheesy humor, sexualization of the female lead and catering towards the very average male lead as in >>192367
I mean the entire premise is about a 15-year-old child cosplaying characters from porn games. You're allowed to enjoy it but I don't think it's that difficult to understand why most women here don't.
I love all your recs but sadly have already watched them but wow did land of the lustrous have the most autistic overlap between them and steven universese fans definitely because of the gem relation kek. Happy you ignore those freaks and do you instead >>195296>porn games
I'm sorry what, I knew it was regular gross "wholesome" shit and I saw some of the faces/poses they drew a kid in but porn games even? jfc
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Some extra highlights from the Wiki. I don't think there's any way to explain away the title "The Young Ladies of the Humiliation Club: Debauched Miracle Life 2"
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>>195298>sadly have already watched them
Well shoot, sorry nona. I should've seen the Steven Universe link coming but seriously, I've been very happily in my own bubble ever since deciding to avoid fandoms. Have you seen that maiko anime (Maiko-san Chi no Makanai-san) that came out recently? I haven't watched it myself yet but I remember some people here saying it was sweet and relaxing.
>>195366>has an actual skill he worked for
Whiiich is barely addressed, given attention or developed properly in the show… yeah sounds like a great 'character' >handsome>stock plain-looking dark-haired loner, just TALL this time
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What annoys me is how the retard behind this probably thought they were being sooo clever. >gais you don't understand it's the GIRL who is a huge otaku and luuuvs porno, the man is just an uwu innocent who likes pure hina dolls and was pushed by this powerful sexually liberated girl to make erotic outfits
It's tale as old as time of the coolgirl/nlog with boring protag. I know the writer is supposedly a woman but I find that really hard to believe. She's either a massive pickme or scrote desperately attempting to validate his fetish >>195368
I dislike the majority of shoujo as well, how do you know which of the anons here fall into both camps? Still, at least the average shoujo anime isn't showing ball gags and parts of anal toys
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Deaimon: Recipe for Happiness is about a musician that moves back home when his dad gets sick. In his absence, his parents took in a young girl as an apprentice at their traditional sweets shop. This show has great art and is set up for a healing dynamic
The Executioner and Her Way of Life is a funny new anime this season. Japanese keep getting summoned to another world and the mc has a divine duty to kill them. I like that the mc of an isekai is an other worldly inhabitant, but there is also a mystery.
Ya Boy Kongming is a fish out of water with an ancient Chinese general reincarnated in modern Japan, the mc girl is cute, it drags a bit near the middle but the ending of the first episode is awesome. It's lighthearted.
Aharen Is Indecipherable is slice of life about a guy that sits next to an autistic tiny classmate that can't act normal. It's low quality slice of life but funny.
BIRDIE WING -Golf Girls' Story is a sports anime about a couple of girl golfers that earn money with underground bets and disguises. (Eve, the Rainbow Barette, a fierce and determined player), and her friend (Lily, who is bubbly but skilled) help underprivileged children with their winnings (yes really). The subtitle quality kind of suck
Healer Girl is a new anime about girls that live at a place where they train to heal people with their voices (really). It's slow paced but fun and they have cool hair. Pic related is their master with sake
But my biggest pick of the season I know will be Spy x Family because I love the manga, which makes me laugh out loud just reading it. What do you guys think about spring so far
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Shoujo is leagues better than shounen what are you smoking
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speaking of digimon movie, does anyone know of an anime that has a similar style/animation? I've just always really liked it.
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in the manga i didnt think the ecchi parts were that bad, but the anime does too much. I know sex sells etc but god so many animes have been ruined because they had to add an teehee boobies shot(Josee)
Anyways gif related is gross and really didnt need to be animated for a mainstream anime
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Why did they make her 15? that's all that runs through my head when i see this shit, it has 0 narrative purpose besides the authors fetish or latent pedophilia. girl what the fuck
anyways, I know this is manga but has anyone read Choujin X here? what are your thoughts, if so?
I liked the 1st chapter, though chapters 2-5 are kinda a slog before it gets the baseball arc, which i like. it's only gotten better since.
>>195232>My fault for expecting a good anime movie when Satoshi Kon is dead.
Ooof, I felt this.
The moment I saw the trailer I knew people would parade it around like the greatest shit. But I just was never interested.
i really hope so as well. following the manga online is confusing considering many sites arrange the chapters differently. iirc, the chapters are arranged by heats, idk if that's the correct word tho i forgot, it's the many times a group of ballroom pairs, or by pair alone, have to dance per competition.
but i guess the story is arranged chronologically, from what i experienced when i read the manga years ago. it's the chapter title that's confusing everyone.
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Anon the characters could be as nice as possible, which they're not, the girl is obviously portrayed as a horny mature for her age 15 year old girl but in a ~wholesome~ way, but the way the camera treats the female character makes everything clear. Don't play dense like the hoards of braindead coomer anime fans that somehow see this show as cute. Even my bf that has a higher tolerance for fanservice because hes a scrote couldn't stop laughing at the cringy fanservice in the first episode, it was really hard to watch.
The author truly could have made the characters college aged, it would have made much more sense. The fanservice would be more tolerable too. But she had to pander to pedos. Boring.
It's true that the main male character has some "personality", but that's the only thing I can give props for. Even then he's a boring retard who spent half the first episode feeling emasculated and crying and whining for having a unique hobby and a really positive and cool male role model.
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At least most shoujo/otome doesn't have disgusting unnecessary fanservice of female characters like in most shounen series.>>195390
Agree with this. Though I feel that the shoujo/otome genre has always been overshadowed by shounen and sometimes get made into shit.
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No need to apologize nonny
at all!! Thanks for the rec, I have that on my to watch list this summer alongside some new series that are coming out rn! >>195415>>195416
I know the newest digimon films that came out have a similar style as Tsuritama actually, first nonny
and I rec from Kenji Nakamura (the director for Tsuritama and also the digimon film as A.Director Gatchaman Crowds and also C - Control, a bit dumb at times both of them but I really enjoyed Crowds in particular, the main protag was cute to me with her stationary addiction. I'm still looking for an online world as cute as Galax (picrel)
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Fanservice is good if the males are the only ones being sexualized.>>195469
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Free had some top tier male fanservice. Worth the character melodrama and melting S3 faces imo, I wish more fujobait shows took note.
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Same nona, and the same is starting to apply to reading books. Women can just write characters better and their works are usually less masturbatory, I don't even mean in a sexual sense, just that men obviously sniff their farts way too often and you can feel it when you read and watch stuff made by them kek.
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This anime was so boring but imagine if there were no male main characters and no tranny shit. These ladies deserve better
I’m watching deaimon and paripi koumei
The kongming one is fucking stupid but oh well maybe they’ll shave him at some poit
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Yeah I didn't get it either it was really sad, probably men who wrote that wish a girl would care that much about them that she would stay with them through their delusion. But I'm glad that at least later she is with the robot lady. Oh and also the main character's brother is a crossdresser and the main character also crossdresses at one point and uwu I don't care about gender, it's so ridicolous I would believe some western wokies made it but I guess there are some in japan too, seeing how they're obsessed with crossdressing>>195797
It's boring don't watch it.
not surprised considering tiger and bunny was kinda built around western-ish influences/ideals with their characters. huang pao lin was a tomboy that hated the girly gifts from her parents which she feels guilty about but ends up cutting her hair short and wears more boy clothes in the movie. nathan seymour was a gay man and had his own arc in the movie about it as well. not to say it's a trans-issue but the anime and a bit of the movie 'tackles' gender expression.
so trans stuff is the next step, at least that's what they think.
I know this is an old post, but thank you for bringing up valvrave, because that rape scene was downplayed so much and it made me stop watching the series. It was so uncomfortable and disgusting. It didnt even need to exist because it came out of nowhere and then everyone just ignored the main male character like it never happened. i fucking hate japanese men. And that spoiler sounds like nightmare fuel. no wonder they have low birth rate. >>194987
I'm so sad that many mangas i like will never end, like X and Nana.
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>>195797>can you elaborate on the tranny shit?
I haven't watching it one but but this should explain it
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It's on my list nonny
, it's such a random and goofy premise I need to see it. I love how autistic the Japanese get about such niche areas of interest. Also their willingness to shit on themselves for the sake of humor that would get you canceled in most other countries.
nodame cantabile is an example i can think of where the girl is a mess, could be considered a neet in personality though. and it was a popular romance years ago.
honestly, same. but i guess even in fiction girls are too hard on themselves that they couldn't read stories where the female character is less than what they think is beautiful or acceptable. in a way theyre still indulging themselves with hot guys in isekai, it's just that they're inserting into the fantasy with a girl they dream of being.
my reasoning could still be applied in incel isekai stories but men, irl and fiction, can act like trash and still faced less scrutiny than a women doing the same both irl and fiction.
but honestly, i think a depressed female neet in a isekai story would be popular. it's a relatable self-indulgent feeling. someone just has to publish themselves than bother doing it professionally.
Yeah, the guy has a bunch of personal problems and he crossdresses, but at the very least he is more attractive than female mc (very rare) and he attempts to help her out and bring excitement into her life. >>196333
None of these shows you mentioned have average or ugly girls, fem mcs are all excpetional and far more capable than the moids surrounding them.>>196331
Yeah I agree 100%. I wish it was more self-indulgent, in most shoujo it's the girl working hard to make the relationship better, and she is always very cute.
Maybe you'd enjoy Yona or Prince Freya though, female mcs are obviously not average neets, but they are at least surrounded by many hot men who treat them like literal queens lol. Definitely more self-indulgent than typical normie tsundere guy and hard working girl couple. Also, Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun has a male mc who is very cheerful and kinda crazy, while the girl is the one who keeps distance from others.
Also shojo protags are usually pretty and have good, bright and cheerful personalities, despite being kiiiinda
bland or generic with brown hair or w/e. They're always much prettier and have much better personalities than male protagonists in haremshit. They're normal and average people, not utter failures. I think that just shows how low the bar is for Japanese males in general, and how women are always expected to emotionally fix males, even in female-oriented media.
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>undesirable average girl meets a manic pixie dream bf
Not anime but I've been reading this manga called Busu ni Hanataba wo or A Bouquet for an Ugly Girl that features a plain-looking low self-esteem girl with a nice attractive guy having interest for her. Would love for this to get an anime adaptation honestly.>>196292
Scrotes don't watch or care about shoujo/otome/reverse harem.>>196281
Most shoujos if not all have desirable female mcs that are cute, pretty and likeable. Also noticed how shoujos/female-oriented romance anime don't have much fanservice or aren't that sexual like guys being shirtless for a couple of minutes compared to scrote romcom anime where you get boob/panty shots or sexual tension between the male mc and girl for being super close and touchy, pretty much softcore. Male ecchi anime with female mc when?
You got me, anon. I'm totally a man for not finding Tohru, Yui, Futaba or Erika incredible interesting characters worth of dating the men who are supposed the hottest shit around>They're always much prettier and have much better personalities than male protagonists in haremshit. They're normal and average people, not utter failures
Being mediocre, but allegedly interesting enough is part of the self-insert fantasy too>>196295>>19632
This trend is old and dead, and it happened with romance aimed at men too. Or do you think tsunshit love stories aren't supposed to be self-insert fantasies too?
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What’s a good food anime that will make me seriously hungry that anyone recs? I’ve seen polar bear cafe and currently watching Deiamon, weebs on reddit trying to get me hooked on code geass like nope for what I’ve seen
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Seconding A Bouquet for an Ugly Girl, love the main couple and the fact that the male lead tries to get know her and her interests instead of the other way around. Even though the female lead caught feelings first, we get to see him fall for her. She has a love rival at first but the rival slowly realises that the ml wouldn't have romantic feelings for her, only platonic ones and that she shouldn't focus on letting the guy she likes only see the positive side of herself and not the negative one. The story mostly focuses on the main couple and character growth of the both of them however they do show the growth of the side characters too and their love life. The love rival becomes genuine friends with the fl and makes an effort to make it up to her after all the help she received from fl
Seriously when will this trend die? I like Madoka but god it was the worst thing that could've happened to the magical girl genre. Tempted to write something that looks
grimdark and edgy but actually is full of hope and friendship to spite this dumb trend that refuses to die
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Yumeiro Patissiere! Pretty cute and enjoyable shoujo sweets/dessert anime with a bit of magic.
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Cant believe it took me so long to clock the scrote, recommending us this shit. I am a disgrace and will report
the more i look at the accounts of japanese female weebs i'm guessing an erotic "female oriented" isekai would be like a bunch of hot guys sexualizing a very hot female neet that comes to their world (bonus if she's wearing skimpy clothes for no reason like pic related >>196548
), one shirtless scene and some random fujobait on the side. it feels like japanese female weebs come in 2 flavours, either fujo or the type who projects on coomerbait characters
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Thanks nonna! I checked out food wars but while the food looked nice, the characters were ehhhh, maybe if I was 14 I be into it>>196521
Oh SHIT! This was the fucking jam for me when I was a kid, adding to my anime planet page to rewatch when I have the chance, thanks nonny
Also all this thinking about food made me remember oisinbo, did anyone ever watch or read it? Honestly really repetitive at times but can't deny the passion about food, too bad the jp gov had to be such dicks about that nuclear disaster and it's been on hiatus forever now
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You reminded me of this one. Has some cute foods and all of the fairies are named after spices.
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Pic related happens at least a few times per episode when characters have a “foodgasm.”
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omg the pita 10 vibes from this, I have the faintest memory of the opening, adding to my to watch list rn!>>196731>>196733>foodgasm
But yeah girl I saw that was like well I'm not a horny ass teen boy, this is really not for me, but it makes sense why so many coomers on reddit were sperging about how amazing this was
Btw anyone remember save me lollipop, main chick was retarded but it's a mid 2000s shoujo unfourntley that comes with the territory, the show (and manga) itself was so cute + good food!!
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watched this years ago but i guess i stopped almost at the end. i forgot the reason why. it's an okay romance, iirc, i think someone working in the anime was either arrested or got a lot of backlash for something. i read some headline that s2 will premiere this july.
i'll likely watch it again.
Couldnt watch it, the characters were so plasticky and anime-like. Especially the male LI. The main characters passing each other IRL for no reason despite knowing each other online wasn't believable (MMOs aren't pokemon go) and the kind of "coincidence" that is shit as it only helps the writer be lazy.
It had a lot of promise, but typical anime writing killed all of it. I really liked the plot idea and the heroine, so I was disappointed.
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So I'm trying to watch Hellsing ultimate and I cannot stand what they did to Victoria. She was actually likable in the older version but this is just ridiculous. And who's fucking idea was it to take the impactful scene where she gets turned into a vampire and turn it into more goofy ass fan service? Please tell me it gets better after the first episode…
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What are your favorite anime designs?
CP below please be careful
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I personally like Food Wars! The food in the show looks genuinely delicious. I think the foodgasm parts are hilarious though, they happen to both men and women in the show and it's played for laughs with how over-the-top it is.
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I know what nonnas would say, but I just finished Jobless Reincarnation S2 and I cried like a little bitch. It is honestly too good, story and characters and voice acting.
I know it has fanservice and also the main character starts off as a pervert, but he’s also a kid for real and he’s a sweetheart. I grew attached to him and cherish watching every character grow up, and cry with them in the darkest moments. Both funny and heartwarming, but almost really dark sometimes.
I can’t wait for S3.
Lmao this is one of the most disgusting deadbrain scrote shows I have ever seen. How did you not drop it after it showed multiple girls masturbating, the husband cheating on his pregnant wife with the maid, getting the maid pregnant, and then making the wife keep the cheating whore in the house and raise their kids together.
The MC being a perverted creep in the body of a little kid who does all sort of weird inappropriate things for "comedy" was awful. He is super unlikable.
I am normally not fazed by anything in anime, but I could not keep watching this disgusting shit.
What the fuck is wrong with anime these days.
It makes me think of how I used to love soul eater when I was 12, but when I tried rewatching it this year I couldn't stomach the constant fanservice every 3 minutes, no matter how charming the anime was. Maybe that nonita is also 12 kek
I really wanted to give it a chance precisely because of the animation, but most of the characters were such a joke. Not one of them were likable when I dropped it. >>199725
Being disgusted by the poor and overly sexualized portrayal of characters in a "serious" high budget show does not make you "afraid of sexuality". What a dumb scrote thing to say. If I'm watching something that's supposed to be serious I don't want to see people masturbating on screen. That's just weird and tasteless.
One of the anime I have had the most fun with is actually Ladies vs Butlers, and it's ecchi. But it's fun because it's a silly romcom with comically exaggerated fanservice that doesn't take itself seriously. Unlike Mushoku, which wants you to believe a little kid sniffing girls' panties is good writing.
I don’t think that’s what makes it good, either way, nor I asked you to think it was good. I liked it, never felt it was weird or too much and that’s about it. I am tired of reading that every other anime is “pickmeish” or “coomer shit”.
You don’t like it, fine, if you think it’s gross from the first few episodes or wiki descriptions that’s good for you, I guess? Just let other people enjoy their “tasteless shit” instead of ranting of how much you hate seeing a boob or a person masturbating, kek.
It is also weird to diss on every other shit unLess it is not your very specific stuff then go and shill anime that are equally as bad just because it panders to your tastes.
What the fuck is the point of posting this shit on an imageboard then? You ONLY want everybody to pat you on the back for liking an anime and give you nice comments?
If you post an opinion online you will obviously find people who disagree. Why the fuck are you mad at that? Shit makes no sense. Just shut the fuck up then.
>>199897>hurr durr let people enjoy things
how about you
let people dislike things, chill out
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You're brainwashed thinking that "lolz random anime girl titties go boing boing!!~" is totally ok which is not. It's annoying, cringe, tasteless and scrotey; so overdone and completely unnecessary to the point where it doesn't deserve its praise, recognition and popularity. I'd immediately drop it. Go watch better anime.
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What do you mean, this is peak comedy.
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If you can't enjoy this you must be some kind of insecure puritan scared of sex obviously.
Something about My dress up darling triggers
a burning hate deep inside me. Maybe it's because the female protagonist is so ridiculously sexualized despite being 15 years old
and people acting like a generic ecchi romance anime is better and woker than it actually is because the male love interest is "nice" i.e. not a straight out rapist or an abuser. If it was just another flash in the pan seasonal anime that never made it anywhere I wouldn't give it the time of my day but people really hype up this garbage about, again, a 15-year old girl literally playing porn games and dressing up as the characters in them while being the subject of cheap sex jokes all thorough the series. The only people who like this shit are unapologetic pickmes or losers who wish they were the sexy underage female protagonist dressing up as a succubus and a hentai game character.
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Holy shit these are so fucking cringe and disgusting. How can anyone say that these anime are great and enjoyable with this hentai/ecchi dogshit unless you're a moid with porn addiction. I just want to obliterate every horny scrote anime out of existence and make anime great again.
yeah it looks extremely awkward>>200042
you're not "sexually liberated" enough
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Fucking based nonny! Love the Princess Tutu fandom still going strong in 2022! You should check out Pretear also when you’re done with the series, it’s a great companion to it
I watched it when I was 24 and a lot of stuff flew over my head. To recognize everything in it one ought to watch about 40 hours of ballet (with librettos) and memorize the most famous air of each, which would make you a ballet expert by the time you're done
I should give it a rewatch too…
Here's the list:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Princess_Tutu_episodes
Each title of Princess Tutu episode is the name of a different ballet!
Some animes that could match the sort-of dreamlike atmosphere of Princess Tutu/Utena would be Kaiba, Shigofumi, Serial Experiments Lain, Mononoke, Haibane Renmei, Boogiepop Phantom, Mushishi or Kino no Tabi
Perhaps you could even check the other animes Kunihiko Ikuhara did, he was the creator of both Penguindrum and Utena (but those are the only two I've watched of him)
Kek, see the question is, why
does it have to be a perverted pedophile in a boy's body? Why
do we have to see anime girls masturbating or being raped on-screen? These things only make the story worse, they don't improve it in any way, especially considering that it's anime and has that typical moe art style and that typical annoying and weirdly sexual voice acting. It can only be explained as "scrotes really think degenerate protagonist #35778329844 is peak comedy" and "scrotes need their regular dose of pornographic scenes and objectification of women to enjoy any creative work".
Trying to excuse that shit, and blaming other women of being "puritans" for pointing these things out and not wanting anything to do with this kind of anime, is beyond pathetic. If you (not you nonnies, but the poster from earlier)
want to watch this shit and just ignore all the gross unnecessary garbage, go ahead, but don't try to act like it's not there for a reason.>>200042
Literally all this trash does is appeal to male coomers. It's not even subtle about it. Why the fuck do pickmes try so hard to defend it? lmao I can't believe this one >>199489
actually used it as an example of a male-oriented series that has tried and succeeded in appealing to a female audience too. What did it do different, exactly? (btw her analyses of some of those female characters is wrong, for example Android 18)
You should've told that friend that their little sister is based and has excellent taste tbh
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>>200128>What did it do different, exactly?
Kind of nothing. It was just in the right place at the right time. Or more like the current climate of coomerism, sex "empowerment" and teens sexualising themselves more than ever helped in birthing this anime and making it so appealing to the current masses. It perfectly appeals to lonely female weebs that want to fit in with the edgy coomer boys. I'd know as sadly I think I would have fit the stereotype a decade ago. I think that type of female weeb used to be more rare outside of 4chan, but nowadays it really leaked everywhere online and all weeby girls want to be the perverted egirl that enjoys eroge, owns a few coomer figurines and an ahegao hoodie.
It's kind of like pic related except make the main female character even more male gazey. Whereas Tomoko was literally a horny pathetic weeb with at least some typical female weeby interests (which are there to poke fun of her or make her seem repulsive) Marin is not only an ultra stacy with a perfect body but she's also into coomer stuff that perfectly appeals to men.
Maybe because Tomoko was written by an actual female weeb, I'm not really sure. My dressup darling may have been written by a woman, but I don't think what she had in mind was a realistic depiction of a nerdy girl. Maybe she really was shooting for the ultimate male fantasy to score points with the coomers. It worked kek.
And girls that want to appeal to men can easily claim her as their favourite character now as Marin isn't into any of the gross girly stuff.
I agree, it did nothing different. Not a damn thing. It's every 90's/00's ecchi harem trope regurgitated with nothing new to offer. From what I've seen everyone just somehow got memed into believing that the male lead is peak progressive male performance for "breaking gender stereotypes because he's a man into sewing and dolls and not perving on Marin". >>200133
The portrayal of female otaku in anime is atrocious to begin with, if they're not pickmes into male coomershit they're portrayed as fujoyumes but somehow made obsessed with 3DPD real life men. Everything comes back to being appealing to men.
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GOOD. Now force him to watch Ouran Highschool Host Club, Yuri!!! On Ice and Free!.
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Thanks nonnies. I heard there was a lolicon reference
so I thought it'd be worse, but now I'm really interested.
I've been watching Gundam the 08th MS Team again, after not liking it much initially. The animation is amazing, but that's about the only positive thing that stands out to me so far. The only negative thing is, of course, the pervyness, but thankfully it's not that annoying.
After this I'll probably watch Gundam Wing and then Iron-Blooded Orphans, which is the series I initially wanted to get into Gundam for.
I’m the Macross anon, it’s been so long since I’ve watched it, but 08th MS Team was my favorite Gundam. I remember really enjoying the more grounded aspect of it, ie not just “mechas in space” and more ground combat/strategy. I hope you wind up liking it anon. The fanservice shit is mostly unfortunately obligatory in most shonen anime, but hopefully you still enjoy the series overall. I also recommend Gunbuster if you haven’t seen it, it’s super short (8 episodes I think) and has great female characters (there is some Gainex fanservice but I still think it’s a great show with a super emotional ending). Enjoy your classic mecha anime nonnie
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I just watched Jujutsu Kaisen and honestly I thought it was pretty mid? maybe I have a bias against shounen because I don't normally watch it but I just found that after the 3rd episode it went downhill.
It seems everyone is shilling the female characters saying how amazing they are, but honestly I thought they were disappointing, other then Maki Zenin and maybe Nobara none of them were really interesting compared to their male counterparts, because literally all the men were interesting in some way whereas the rest of the girls were, so boring.
Also pic related, the cursed energy waffling was so boring and stupid, maybe I'm nit-picking idk
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Huh? I'm nta and not a fujo but I enjoyed yoi because it was an entertaining show about hot guys ice skating. The animation was nice and the romance was a cute part of it but not overbearing. It had a similar feel to western romcoms except between two guys so there was less of the annoying sexist tropes. I guess women aren't allowed to enjoy fluffy romantic series and should just go straight to bdsm porn?
>>200467>It had a similar feel to western romcoms except between two guys so there was less of the annoying sexist tropes.
Ah yes, because the solution to avoid sexism is to consume content of gay men and ignore women exist.
I like lgb romance stories, but the way some women latch onto gays is pathetic. You don't see the level of worship fujo ships get for other pairings, psycho yurifags are very few and contained to fandoms like love live and other people are just into one character as their husbando/waifu, but with gay pairings you have fujos worshipping the pair like they're in love but not worthy of the relationship.
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I recommend Nouzaki-kun anime and Ouran High school host club. Especially Ouran, it's still the best romcom reverse harem imo.
>>200488>the solution to avoid sexism is to consume content of gay men and ignore women exist.
I mean no, I would love it if there were less sexist m/f relationships in media but I feel like this doesn't have to be a mutually exclusive thing. I am able to enjoy representations of gay relationships because I enjoy romance in general without the need to self insert. >I like lgb romance stories, but the way some women latch onto gays is pathetic.
How do you know the anon you responded to is one of these? She was just listing shows where the male characters are shown as attractive and desirable, one of which is a reverse harem. You're building some strawmen here based on a very benign post
kek at the image, the mangaka really suffers from Togashi-syndrome with his overly complicated ability explanations, although the art is better than late Hunter X Hunter. I completely agree on the girls being overrated, especially since Nobara doesn't do much after what the anime already covered and currently is basically out of the story
. I was surprised when Nobara's character won popularity polls for female character charts, I don't really see it.
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I just know she would beat up the girl from SPYXFAMILY without even blinking
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Nah you're not alone nona, I enjoyed the show as a teen but looking at it now there is a decent amount of sexism I missed as a kid. The guys may be cute but they're still scrotes. I think a lot of former fans especially see the scene when Haruhi tries to help some girls being harassed and is then scolded/abused for putting herself at risk (ep 8 in the anime) as gross.
You're absolutely right anon, this anime has not done anything different. Pickmes have always watched ecchi and hentai shit for scrotes in an attempt to fit in. Although they could also have watched that kind of anime because they think it's "popular" and therefore they "should" watch it, without even considering that it's popular with males since it's aimed at horny teenage/young adult males, and that anime isn't perverted fap material for scrotes by default (or at least, it doesn't have
to be). I remember how all the female weebs in middle school (even fujos) were obsessed with Highschool of the Dead. They wanted me to watch it, but thankfully I never wasted my time with it.
>>200544>Kunihiko Ikuhara trooning out
For fuck's sake.>>200488>Ah yes, because the solution to avoid sexism is to consume content of gay men and ignore women exist.
BL was created as a way to cope with social trauma suffered by Japanese women, it's honestly not surprising that BL is often just an extension of misogyny, in some ways.
He apparently didn't troon out. He just changed his name to Bonsoir Ikuhara as an April Fools joke but due to timezones it was still March 31st in the states which was some sort of a transgender visibility day so a tranny editor on Anime News Network headcanoned that as him coming out as trans. Ikuhara was pretty quick to correct that the timing was completely unintentional.
God anon, you got me good you nasty fucker
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I started watching Kuragehime last night (I've only watched the first 2 episodes) and I fucking love the female cast. They are based as fuck. God please, I want more anime and manga with female characters like them.
But why did it have to have a male crosdressing and invading a space that is exclusively for women as the main love interest? That was kind of off-putting.
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>>200567>the main premise of the plot is offputting
Come on anon, did you not google the show? He's not a tranny and it's not a SJW thing, he's cute enough that it's ok. Of course the girls are the most based though.
>>200569>Come on anon, did you not google the show?
Unironically no, I didn't, I've just seen it get praise from other women on imageboards and searched for a torrent on Nyaa. In spite of that, it still looks entertaining, so I'll keep watching.>>200571
Damn, that sounds disappointing as fuck, and yes, it was also disappointing to realize that this is going to be yet another josei series that is entirely focused on the romance. What a shame, it looked like it had potential.
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nonnas do you have any fairy tale like anime recs like princess tutu
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Have any nonnies watched Fena: Pirate Princess? I thought there'd be more pirate badassery, and wasn't expecting romance, but the men are hot and the animation is nice so I binged it kek
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Sad to hear the heroine isn't more active buuut
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You should check out the manga, anon. Romance is still present, but it's waaaaaay longer and the focus is on the fashion line. There are some great characters who didn't make it into the anime especially – picrel is Nisha, who iirc supplies fabric and is amazing.
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Akagami no Shirayukihime is very fairy tale-esque, though much lighter than Princess Tutu. If that dark but feminine tone is what you like then something like Madoka or Utena is better.
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, I've noticed that fanservice in old mecha isn't that bad and in fact most of it is tolerable. I will probably
watch Gunbuster hopefully it's as good as you say but the main female cast's outfits really leave a bad impression, kekAlso this guy was hot
I love this anime's art style a lot>>200635>>200653
A friend just recommended this anime to me, and I was actually thinking of giving it a chance.
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Holy shit, just remembered that Maria Holic was a thing
>Maria†Holic revolves around a high school girl named Kanako Miyamae, who due to a childhood incident is scared of boys and breaks out in hives if a boy touches her. During her second year of high school, she enrolls in an all-girls school hoping to find a female romantic partner. However, her ideal candidate, Mariya Shidō, turns out to be a sadistic cross-dressing boy.
Remembered? It was heavily discussed in the transwashing thread.>>200693
Surprisingly the mangaka was a woman.
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Utena is still one of the best of all time imo. A lot of it may be hard to follow on the first watch because it's very abstract and metaphorical, but it's definitely dramatic, to put it lightly. Has some of the most complex female characters in anime.
Akuma no Riddle is also pretty fun but it's more like an edgy survival show with some lesbians thrown in rather than the romance as focus.
Bloom Into You, Aoi Hana, and Kase-san are well done slice of life teen romance, but if you're looking for adult characters as the focus I'd rec looking more into manga. There are quite a few manga with adult lesbian characters being published these days, but none of them have been adapted yet.
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OH I will add though that Oshi ga Budokan Ittekuretara Shinu is a cute series with adult characters. It's about a woman whose in love with an unpopular idol girl. Unfortunately the romance doesn't go very far in the anime but it's pretty cute and funny and has a lot of focus/comedy around modern fan cultures.
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thank you so much! i'm adding those to my list. i love abstract and metaphorical, or stuff that makes you think, so that sounds right up my alley.
Yeah but that staircase sequence gets harder and harder to sit through>>200529
Nooo Pino is nice!
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Tbf on my first watch I liked it but found it mostly confusing. On my second watch I took the time to read more into all the metaphors and basically had a spiritual experience and it became one of my favorite anime ever. Maybe I'm just slow but it is a pretty dense series, but the more you dig into it the more you get out of it imo. Just wanted to give nonna a heads up on the type of show it is.
I don't browse every thread on broken /m/, you just gotta accept we're a big china brain sharing one braincell kek
I remembered it because a famous lesbo anime blogger from my country was a huge fan of it. No idea why, esp considering MariaHolic is the representation of what lesbians dread
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This series is so cute and the androgynous/handsome/tomboy girl x cute flustered girl is my favorite dynamic. Though I kinda wished it was a full on anime series instead of an OVA.
So you're triggered
by "typical moeshit" but not by Utena full of incest?>>200777>Utena>lesbian
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I… yes? Even if you personally interpret Utena herself as bi or whatever, it's a series about two girls who fall in love. It also has Juri who is unmistakably lesbian. Actual spoilers but teenage girls being raped by a man twice their age does not make them bi, if that's what you are implying. I also would argue that any interest Utena may have had in Touga was because she thought he may have been the prince from her past rather than actual attraction, and of course, Akio was manipulating them both since day one. And I think it's pretty apparent that Anthy only ever loved Utena, the only other kinds of love she may have ever felt in her life was for her brother before he started absuing her, and Chuchu, neither of which I would say were romantic lmao.
People always love to nitpick when yuri series get brought up but then never rec anything better.
I haven't even watched the movie so I can't say more, but in the anime Utena was completely hetero. And she wasn't raped, come on. She was clearly enjoying it.
Yes, Juri was lesbian but that's all.>>201080
I had a different impression, that yellow hoe wanted to fuck her brother to the end and and they didn't bother making it disgusting. What's even the point of making her into incest in the first place?
Idk, but this anime just disgusts me, it has strong male vibes, maybe because of incest.
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See, people like you are why I say Utena is hard to understand… you misunderstood everything so hard I want to think you're baiting but I love talking about Utena so I'll break down your post.
>in the anime Utena was completely hetero.
Do you also think that every time Anthy smiles she's being genuine? People lie in this anime, not only to others but themselves. Sure, she calls herself hetero, but when ultimately given the choice of Touga, Akio, or Anthy, she not only chooses Anthy every time but risks her life and her wellbeing, all to save and protect Anthy in the end, abandoning the social role as the "princess" to do so. The original reason she even wanted to become a prince was to save Anthy the way Dios saved her.
Utena as a character is rather headstrong and innocent and has a hard time changing her view on things, especially if she sees herself as right. She's a teen girl who has a one track mind in a show written in the 90's, maybe try reading between the lines a bit in the scenes where she says that and you'll see her trying to convince herself it's true.
>She was clearly enjoying it.
First of all, I fucking hate you personally. Second of all, this is what was going through her head when it happened. Yes, clearly her begging for it to stop is her enjoying it! She also spends the entire time talking about what to make her and Anthy for dinner tomorrow, avoiding eye contact and looking sad, trying to distract from whats happening. Third of all, she was literally groomed since she was in elementary school. Her parents died and while she was vulnerable a grown man said "hehe don't be sad, let's get married, have this ring" and then had sex with her while she was a student at his own school. Akio is the villain here. You aren't supposed to be rooting for this. Utena and Anthy were raped.
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>>201383>that yellow hoe wanted to fuck her brother to the end and and they didn't bother making it disgusting.
There's an interview with Ikuhara where he talks about how he thinks incest is emblematic of people who have very small views of the world. They only think they love their family members because they don't have the life experience or desire to step outside of what they know, so they cling to the people who were born closest to them. Nanami is also someone you aren't supposed to be rooting for. She's abusive
, she kills animals, she takes advantage of people, and she thinks she's in love with her brother because she's naive and has a small view of the world.
She doesn't actually stay like this until the end though, because she's fucking traumatized at seeing Akio rape Anthy and being shown what the reality of incest is.
Honestly, I feel Utena liked Anthy as a friend to the end (in the anime). But that's how I see it.>clearly her begging for it to stop
What?>avoiding eye contact and looking sad
I had different feeling, she was enjoying it, she was just shy.>You aren't supposed to be rooting for this.
I'm not rooting for this ,but they should show that what happened was in fact rape. Not her talking about fucking meal.
And her waiting to be a prince doesn't equal being a lesbian. You can love someone like a friend and procect them. We can see that in countless anime.
In anime there isn't even single situation that would show that Utena is into women. It's hard to call this anime "lesbian" just because Juri is in it.
At this point, I don't know if we've watched the same anime.>>201426>>201428
Well, even if that is the case, they handled this incest situation very badly.>>201434
There are no "based" lesbian anime. Better or worse but nothing "based".
It would be nice to have one. Normal about relationship between women. Without incest of course.
samefag but>Nanami didn't want to fuck her brother, the fuck?
She literally want to fuck her brother through whole anime. Yes, she didn't say it up front, but her behavior was obvious.
I honestly can't understand how that anon lacks any understanding of subtlety, details and communication through media. It's a very zoomer-esque way to approach things by looking at something and taking everything at face value judging by the portrayed subject matter, not how
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I honestly refuse to believe you are a girl. I watched all of MT and even read some web novel (years and years ago). The world building in the series is very weak and superficial (Bookworm this season has much more deeper and more vast world building than MT). Characters are all shallow and besdies MC don't seem like real people at all. Conflict is drawn out. But what makes the series really insufferable is that it's 100% a pedophile's power fantasy and it's reflected in every way in the series loud and clear. To start off, MC recorded his preteen niece and was masturbating feverishly to her even in the middle of his parents' funeral. All throughout the series he keeps leering at children, fantasizing about them, they cut some stuff for anime but still left scenes like the Roxy one, beast children, Eris (which Rudeus said he fell in love with as a nearly 40 yo man when she was 10). And the kicker is he is always basically rewarded for his sexual preferences and grooming, because he gets to fuck the kids he is into throughout the series. All of MT resolves around sexuality in some way, the emotional climaxes are all centered on it (with only exception being MC reuninting with his dad, but even that was one-sided and poorly executed). On top of it, you kept calling MC a kid. But he is NOT a kid, he doesn't think like one, we even get a different old guy narrator for his thoughts to highlight that he is very much an adult in a kids body, taking advantage of the situation. In most isekai MC, even if born into a different body, takes over the new body's voice because it's implied that despite having their memories they still have a "child's mind", and besause of that their past self has been altered. But that's not the case with Rudeus, so when you are watching him leering at children and narrating in old guy's voice, how do you not get physically repulsed? This series is so vile, and the fact that it got top notch voice actors and amazing animation is fucking embarrassing. It is the most blatant pedo pandering in mainstream media I've seen recently. The fact that scrotes are praising this show every chance they get is worrying, because it has such a lackluster plot and shallow world building, and the only well-explored aspect of it is sexuality.
Personally, shitty ass isekai shows with overpowered MC are my guilty pleasure, I love Overlord and other silly anime like it, so I would be MT's target audience. But it's not just a fun harmless fantasy show, it's straight up pedophile's fantasy, and because it's packaged so nicely it's all more sinister.
To add to the worldbuilding stuff people keep praising, it's all so shallow! People living in the villages Rudeus visits don't seem like real people, more like caricatures. There were some good moments like Roxy's village and her being unable to understand them, but otherwise it's the same boring shit rich humans bad blah blah. And I also thought those different communities don't seem that different at all, sure we explore sexual side of things, but what about mundane stuff like food they eat, music they listen to, how they like to spend their afternoons, what deities they believe in etc. There's clear lack of thought put into that in favour of more sexual moments. On the surface someone might say "wow, there's so much stuff to Mushoku Tensei's world-building, amazing, so different from other isekai" but the world doesn't seem lived-in at all! Bookworm for example takes place in one city, but that one city has been explored to the absolute fullest, we feel like we know every street, every person, what they eat, how they think, how they interact with each other regardless of mc. Even magic has been approached in realistic way instead of "omg! Genuis GOAT MC can cast magic without incarnation" like in MT lol. If you like kinda emotional world-building (idk how else to call it, basically focusing on emotional side of things instead of culture etc.) then again, Slime Isekai is way better than Mushoku Tensei. It's a simple fantasy world with basic races, but the interaction they have with each other are amazing. It has some fanservice and it doesn't shy away from mild sexual stuff, but it's not the absolute center of every character, more like a natural side of them that gives them additional depth.
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Had to drop Deaimon because they involved a guy who started to crossdress because "girl is easy mode uwu".
>>201517>And her waiting to be a prince doesn't equal being a lesbian. You can love someone like a friend and procect them. We can see that in countless anime. >In anime there isn't even single situation that would show that Utena is into women.
Holy shit how can you miss the point this badly? this has to be bait, or else actual retardation>>201851
That's because all they value is sex and their whole lives revolve around it, to the point that they kill themselves or commit mass shootings because of it, despite having so many advantages on things that actually matter, and living in a world literally made for men.
Nanami didn't want to fuck Touga at all, in the end. She was so horrified when she saw Akio and Anthy that she has warned Utena about them. I remember a scene where Touga seems to come onto Nanami and she rejects him. She realised that she wanted the protective brother back and not to fuck him.>>201882
I second you, especially on the topic of Utena's rape. The way she blabbs on about food and Anthy (the person they are both betraying - not really in Utena's case)… it's anything but her enjoying her first time with a pedo.
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Is anyone watching Paripi Koumei, love it! And I was rewatching Beck so I'm digging all the music in my media rn
But I also just wonder does anyone know just exactly how did anime/manga blow tf up that I see Naruto shirts now at Abercrombie? Like I know social media and weebs finally getting a chance to mingle like that played a part probably, but like really how did it get so big? I'm glad though most people's taste is mediocre and just run of the mill shonen/seasonal shit but I still don't care much for this new generation of weebs really and how absolutely degenerate (publicly) but also morally superior they act
Sigh, if you can't take this anime at "face value" but you should "read between the lines" then it's open to interpretations.
How I look on it is my interpretation, you don't have guarantee that your conclusion is right either. Because there is no "right" or "wrong".
For me whole anime was bleak, scrote-ish and very grotesque. They handled rape and incest very badly. The only good thing is Juri and her situation, it was actually intereting.
If all that have that "deep" meaning then what deep and groundbreaking meaning is behind Nanami turning into a fucking cow?
I feel like you are looking for a "deep" meaning in things that don't have it. It's like making something "deeper" than it is.
This whole anime was cringe and left bad after taste.>>201426>>201909
You bitches can't even have one opinion on things. One anon says she didn't want to fuck him and the others say otherwise.
It looks like you have a hard time interpreting this anime kek. Maybe try to read between the lines anons?
Maybe this scene where she watches her brother take a shower while red faced and panting will help you. You need her to say that she wants to fuck him to finally understand?
And if you need 90% of viewers look for extra "meaning" online that's quite embarrassing. I remeber every person who said that I had to look up for "meaning" online, because they had hard time "understanding" it. Well, seems like no one gets that shit anime kek.
Deal with it.
tl;dr>tfw you watch lesbian anime and you get incest
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I wasn't liking it that much, although it was alright, but the last episode really took me by surprise, it was great and I even teared up. I think, overall, I enjoyed it.
I also watched Miller's Report (skipped most of the reused footage kek) and it made me appreciate the series more.
I'm pretty sure the shower scene happened before Nanami ended up being traumatised by the reality of incest and realised it's not really what she wants. Did you miss the ending where she acts like a normal sister and not an incest freak?
My interpretation is that she was confused about her feelings for her brother and maybe she thought that she wants to be his #1 princess (see how it ties into 'all girls are rose brides'?), but in the end it wasn't what she was looking for.
>>202081>Nekopara is also created by a woman
What, an actual real woman?
I don't get why female artist draw hentai crap when they could draw epic yume stuff instead.
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Yes, most of her older drawings were rather tame and lolita-themed, with the focus on the cute clothes so it was kinda obvious at the time she's a female artist but she probably realized coomers are rich
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This, I remember loving her illustrations back in 2008ish and I remember seeing them a lot in RP/anime discussions back then lol
I always thought they were super cute. But now her art is super scrotey it's unreal. My theory is women don't really draw in a scrotey way naturally, they learn through the years.
I just really hate how much she had to change. Her early illustrations were cute and calming, they always had an ethereal feel to them and I always started imagining cool stuff whenever I looked at them. All the charm is gone and it feels plastic and empty now. Coom is a fucking disease. It always ruins the charm of anything it touches. I don't blame any nonny
who might still like her art but you gotta agree it just doesn't hit the same.
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Samefag, her art was SO cool ugh. I would definitely still buy an artbook from her but only if it has her old art in it
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If she did, then I'm sure as hell I never came across it. I only saw the pretty non sexualized art. If she did so back then, then at least she still had some semblance of taste. Come on look at this pic. It was my shit back then (I actually saw someone calling it the first nekopara illustration ever? Back then it wasn't called that and you could tell they were just some cute OCs she had)
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Her art definitely got more blushy blushy and sexualized over the years. This one is still cute for example, I just don't want to post her more recent art because fuck that scrotey shit. I mean, sure, women can like scrotey shit too but her art clearly downgraded from being pretty to just being pretty for the sake of coom. I think it all started when her games came out. I think she at first just wanted to make a game about her characters working at a maid cafe or something similar. Scrotes hands and the scrote gaze ruined it all.
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Ok, now compare that one to this one. God it's so fucking bad. They are also wearing the same clothes, just now more skimpy. She actively corrupted her own art.
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This seriously looks like shit. There's nothing more wrong and disgusting than taking something women love and making it pander to men. It's vile.
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Dear nonita, I'm not into shoujo or romantic stuff in general but i absolutely loved it. The animation is gorgeous and it's obvious that it was written by a woman.
Not sure how to write this without spoiling it, but the end may be a tad disappointing. If you like drama though (which I assume you do since we're on lolcor) you'll enjoy it.
What do you mean by "10/10 goddesses"? If you're lamenting the fact that female anime characters tend to be boring and one dimensional, and rarely ever grow through complex, humanistic struggles, then I totally understand and share your pain. If you mean you wish they weren't drawn super stylised and cute, and would prefer if they had more flawed appearances, then I'd have to say I disagree. I don't mind them being unrealistically perfect looking. Like yes I'm also insecure and anime definitely contributed to that when I was a kid, but at the end of the day it's a cartoon. It's supposed to be out-of-this-world pretty.
Of course I don't want to put words in your mouth either, so if that's not what you meant I'm sorry to have assumed.
NTA but the main problem is the lack of variety. Almost all
female characters are supposedly beautiful and perfect in every way, their only "flaw" might be that they're a crybaby, modest, naive or coy which is rather seen as a virtue when it comes to female stereotypes. There's a stark difference between the portrayal of female and male main characters and it speaks volumes of societal expectations of both genders, men are allowed to accept themselves as flawed beings while women have to constantly idolize and emulate an unrealistic goal.
SF to say yes I have noticed that and it's a travesty. That's kind of what I was getting at when I said it's troubling how the women are written to be shallow and boring. Thank you for offering your perspective, especially this part>men are allowed to accept themselves as flawed beings while women have to constantly idolize and emulate an unrealistic goal.
Seeing it written out like that helps me better understand what the other anon was saying, too.
Ehhh I half agree and half disagree. Sometimes, women can incorporate too much scrotey shit and it becomes unbearable. Otherwise I have pretty similar opinions to you nonny
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10/10 anime, I recommend manga AFTER it since it's so breezy and doesn't allow you to feel the weight of things happening. It has that classic shoujo art thoughand some small plot differences.
We love to see bpd queen
Mariko being a misandrist.
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Finished watching this, and I liked it. I can go without the 3 seconds of nakedness
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This Nekopara talk reminds me a bit of how a friend of mine pointed out how so many eroge are so girly and juvenile and cutesy and how It's meant to likely make the male viewer feel immersed into ""girl world"". So my theory here is that it's also meant to bait women because it's obviously also appealing to us but then we get groomed by the porny content in those things. So then you have those weird girls with collections full of cutesy hentai figures.
But then why would Uran use the strap-on? That's "being treated as a woman" for me.
Idk. Kurosawa's brain. You gotta check the artbook for that I guess.
First, why are you posting without quoting the posts you're replying to
Second, are you guys talking about that one "enby" Japanese artist who made Club Suicide and draws TL manga with tall big-dicked men?
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No that's another artist. This is Kurosawa Rinko.
>>202530>It does bother me if coomer anime like Mushoku Tensei or Dress up Darling get popular tho because that means more shows like them will be made and I'll have less things to enjoy.
that's basically the problem that's being brought up in multiple posts already. Stories that would make a great media experience without unnecessary sexualization and coomer brainrot never get an audience because shit like Mushoku Tensei or Dress up Darling gets all the money and resources that could go into creating something better. The coomerpandering has gotten so bad that it's not an occasional meme anime per season but instead half of the roster, not only that but it's also being shilled in series that don't need it and are degraded for having it added. Like if an anime like Madoka Magica or Tamako Market was made in 2022 it would probably have a horny masturbation scene and a ton of gratuitous panty/ass shots and tit jiggles. You can see it in the new promotional artwork released for older anime series, they always up the sexualization to ridiculous levels.
>>202520>But there's no reason for modern women to continue making products for men exclusively
Well, degeneracy is bigger than ever. It's what sells.>>202530
Ecchi and hentai killed the japanese animation industry, it's contributing to porn addiction and misoginy.
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I know there's a meme going around how someone on TikTok is being ridiculed for saying that the kid in Spy x Family is sexualized (picrel) but honestly young men watching it creep me the fuck out because I know they're obsessed with the little girl and sexualizing her even when they claim it's just being "wholesome". I probably sound like a schizo but the amount of times male coomers have ruined completely innocent things for me makes it hard to enjoy characters that are little girls but "not normal" like the kid in Spy x Family.
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Don't feel like a schizo anon, you're right. I'm still in an old discord full of former /a/ fags and currently they're on the train of sexualizing the mom. It's only a matter of time till the daughters porn will get posted honestly, it's always like this.
Anon, please, I want to enjoy Spy x Family in peace without thinking about the gross coomers destroying it.
Please, PLEASE. I REALLY WANT TO ENJOY ANIME. I CANNOT ENJOY ANIME BECAUSE OF MEN, NO ANIME CAN BE SAVED, NOT EVEN ANIME ABOUT FUCKING BANANACATS.
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>>203031>NOT EVEN ANIME ABOUT FUCKING BANANACATS.
Are you telling me that some trogylodyte scrotum wanted to lewd motherfucking Bananya?? For real? Men need to be thrown in an acid bath
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Some of my impressions from 2022 Spring
>Spy x Family
Obviously very good, magical first two episodes especially. Around episode 3 animation quality drops a little, but it's still enjoyable. Manga is a bit better I think, so I'd recommend checking it out first.
>Shield Hero Season 2
I hated Season 1 with loli slave stuff, felt so fucking gross, on top of false rape accusations. Surprisinly, 2nd didn't start as bad as 1st, there's less focus on male lead. He almost disappeared for one ep. There's a girl with adorable character design (green braided hair). Plot leads to nowhere and the series is really boring though.
>Kaguya-sama Season 3
Romantic comedies for men are usually nauseating, but Kaguya isn't so bad. After three seasons of the same jokes repeating over and over again, countless failed confession scenes, very samey formula, it gets tiring. I can't imagine binging this show, it's fine if you watch it weekly.
>Gaikotsu Kishi-sama, Tadaima Isekai e Odekakechuu
Damn this one… there's always explicit or implied sexual violence in like every episode. A guy isekais into fantasy world as huge skeleton and saves various girls from getting raped or mauled by monsters. Scenes of sexual violence are sooo long, taking up half the episode in one case, and they are especially weird af since the tone of the series is supposed to be so cheerful. Like one second we have "haha funny skeleton man likes food", "haha adorable dog spirit won't leave my side" to scenes of kids getting sex trafficked. Idk who this show is for?
>Kawaii dake ja Nai Shikimori-san
This one really doesn't work as anime, simple scenes that were like couple pages long take minutes on end… It's another one of the "10/10 girl with bland guy" romcoms for men, but at the very least I thought the guy was really cute and sweet. I think some nonnies will enjoy it, but only if they are into his character design, which definitely isn't as good as in the manga.
>Shijou Saikyou no Daimaou, Murabito A ni Tensei suru
Anime about demon lord being reborn as an average villager… Except it's not it at all lol. First half of first episode was pretty good, some fun comedic moments of an awkward ex-demon lord trying to make friends, funny inner monologue, blah blah, but it turns into shit so quick. Somehow all comedy disappears, he gets even more powerful than in his past life, and gets a harem of girls he goes on dates with… Why even bother with that demon lord set up or comedy in the first epsiode???
>Heroine Tarumono! Kiraware Heroine to Naisho no Oshigoto
I loved it, the story follows a village girl moving into a big city and somehow landing a job as a manager of a popular idol team. It's simple and cute, MC has a fun personality and unique character design. Guys are assholes at first but they warm up to each other (and her) slowly, it also helps that MC can stand up for herself and won't take shit from them. It's a cliché story but it's nice to see something made for female audience that's not completely terrible.
Sweet and refreshing story with a lot of singing. Some other anon recommended it itt and yeah, it's really good. Top notch animation, voice acting and production quality. It gets better as you go and familiarize yourself with the girls, you really start rooting for them. So far we haven't gotten a lot of info on them individually, I guess we are meant to view them as a team, but still I'd like to know more about them, their backstory, etc.
I don't wanna completely shit up the thread so I'll write rest of my impressions later on.
Gonna blab a bit too nonna
I was originally looking forward to the season but now I'm really lukewarm on everything. I read SxF manga so I feel the anime is a little underwhelming tbh the director seems to be taking a more grounded/serious route with the story instead of how lighthearted and comical the manga feels. I just hope it wont affect the school episodes.
Like you said about Kaguya, while still funny, is getting kinda old. Still one of my favorites of the season but I don't feel that excitement starting an episode like I did with season 2. I haven't read Shikimori-san's manga but the anime is so slow-paced I can see what you mean by it probably being better in manga format. I'll have to check it out since I'm enjoying the premise.
Have you watched Anos-sama's anime from last year? It does the OP demon lord in a past life thing much better than the one this season just because it wholly embraces how OP he is kek I found it a fun watch. Do you watch everything every season?
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86 sucked but I still listen to the OST
I immedeatly watched one episode of Healer Girl and one episode of Heroine Tarumono after seeing your post
Heroine Tarumono to me was kinda meh, the girl has that one specific anime voice type that comes of as grating to me and is slightly too genki for my personal taste, and the art at some points can look a bit icky, but I'm actually curious what will happen next so I'll keep watching.
As for Healer Girl, as it started I was a bit afraid the singing would be done in a too tryhard-emotional way but it was actually really cute and I enjoyed it.
Thanks for the recs nonny
nothing on this list appeals to me
following popular anime artists means now my tl is clogged with yor fanart, before it was marin now there's another titty waifu of the month
The production quality of Heroine is definitely below average like you pointed out, thankfully it doesn't get much worse, but if you can't get past it I wouldn't continue it tbh. It's cute and all, but the story isn't anything special (like obviously the asshole idol boys warm up to her and fall in love). It's just that I'm in huge shoujo drought, there's barely any anime made for adult/adolescent women. So I lap up anything that's available lmaoo. Down the line there are some fun moments of them exploring their goals (especially track for the MC), what comes with being an idol and drama between different idol groups, but the focus still stays on the MC.
I'm glad you enjoyed Healer Girl though, hopefully you'll find it more fun as you go!>>203238
I agree, but episode 4 of SpyxFamily gave me some hope. The comedy was done pretty well, it was way more pronounced than in the previous episodes. That being said, I think the director decided on the "serious" route because manga later on took that direction as well? I've read up to volume 8, and I've notcied that there was a lot more subpar drama and serious action scenes in later volumes instead of funny interactions.
I think you'll enjoy Shikimori's manga much more, there's more focus on the guy, and he looks much better drawn (more detail, dark hair).
Oh yeah I remember that Anos anime, it was enjoyable. I wish more male power fantasy anime embraced the comedy route, it would be more fun for everyone, not just adolescent boys. Have you seen Hataraku Maou-sama? It's kinda similar, but the demon lord mc actually loses all his powers and has to survive based on his personality alone lol.
And yeah I usually watch everything, wbu?
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I'm sorry to hear that nonnie
! If you feel like Spy x Family might be for you, but you don't want to start it because of coomer men, I'm happy to report that there's none of that in anime. Yor is an adult too, thankfully. I think maybe you might hopefully enjoy something from this list? I know nothing about your taste, so just based on general assumptions.>Paripi Koumei
Famous Chinese strategist (Kongming) teleprots in time to modern day Japan. He's charmed by singing of a random girl and decides he is going to make her into a top star lol. It basically treats club scene, music festivals, internet fame, as a huge battle. He implements different strategies he got so famous for to dominate the music industry. All while not losing his personality, sense of style and flair. You don't need extensive history knowledge to enjoy the show, it's just an added bonus for history nerds. There's also nothing creepy or romantic going on between singer and Kongming thankfully.>Deaimon
Episodic slice of life series about a guy coming back to his home town to help with wagashi (Japanese sweets) business. Every episode focuses on a different person and their approach to Japanese tradition. It has really pretty scenes of making wagashi, describing them, etc. Sweet, calming series with amazing production. Also one of the best portrayals of breakup I've ever seen. Unfortunately, one episode has a crossdresser. It's not a trans woman, but a guy who likes to dress up. It didn't seem creepy to me (I remember some anon really didn't like it and it made them drop the series tho so be careful). Personally, I think it comes with territory that we aren't going to relate to every single character of episodic story.>Dance Dance Danseur
Absolutely insane ballet sequences. It's a very dramatic series with love triangle about ballet. It's kinda annoying at times with the endless conflict between dancers, but the ballet scenes make it so worth it imo. If you were into Yuri on Ice or Bakuten you are going to like it. Also the MASSIVE eyes characters have are so charming lol, character designs look as dramatic and stylish as the anime itself. It's made by Madhouse so animation quality won't drop in later episodes.>Meitantei Conan: Zero no Nichijou
Anime about side character from Detective Conan. I like Detective Conan but I'm watching it with my friend who's never seen it and she likes it a lot too. It's delightful 12 minutes per ep of fanservice for girls. Especially first episode with him brewing tea, taking care of cafe, and in general being hot as fuck is kino. There are some cases he has to resolve sure, but tbf it's all about him chasing after criminals, putting on his watch, etc. Mindless fun.
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Speaking of seasonal anime, is anyone here watching LotGH: Die Neue These? Have you watched the old OVA series, and if so, how do you think this new adaptation compares to it?
Have you also read the novels? At first, I didn't know it was a direct adaptation of them and that all the "changes" I hated at first were actually there in the source material, and it was the OVA that changed some things. I got over that and started to appreciate the new version more, and them adapting or even expanding upon some parts that were absent in the first anime is amazing, but I still don't like it as much as the OVA.
For instance, the soundtrack is extremely lackluster compared to the OVA's OST. I also don't like the art style that much (not to mention the CGI ships), when there are characters with more realistic faces they don't look that good most of the time I think, and the designs that have more stylized faces, like some of the main characters, i.e. Reinhard, Kircheis and Yang, look like they belong in a different anime (give them a fucking nose! it looks especially ridiculous when they're standing next to another character around their age who has an actual nose kek). Sometimes they come really close to having an "anime muzzle", especially in certain angles. That's just a pet peeve of mine, though. I do really like some of the designs, such as Mittermeyer here (Reuenthal's is atrocious imo), and have to admit the animation really is high quality like so many people say. But it's just my taste…
Something that actually affects the quality, maybe, is the way they chose to make each episode all about one side and alternate between the two sides. It gets boring fast, unlike in the OVA where everything felt more fast-paced with the constant switching between the two in the same episode. But what I really hate is the overly dramatic way everything is portrayed. It's like, they have this weird dramatic way of saying things, use these weird dramatic angles, etc., when in the old anime they talked more or less like normal people discussing politics and war and tactics, and so on, as if it were mundane stuff, which really made the flow of the dialogue and narration feel smooth and the pace relatively fast, and still managed to be exciting, badass, shocking, moving, engaging, serious, and more. It could just be because it was adapted for modern anime audiences but yeah, there's a big difference there, like the new anime tries too hard to make the plot seem smart and serious but it's just excessive, and I feel like not many people talk about it. But maybe that's just me. What do you think?
I have downloaded every episode of this new anime to date, but have only been able to finish the first season. I guess I'm just too attached to the OVA lmao
NTA but watching this now, thank you so much for the recommendation, I am living for it. fucking love
same here anon, I normally keep my anime taste to myself because most people would think its girly and childish compare to the mainstream and shonen animes. either>>200086
I was really into this series too when I was a teen as well as boys over flowers and Marmalade Boy
He is, he got me to watch Dr Stone, Spy x Family and this anime called 86. I also watched some Demon Slayer with him. He's more into logical animes that has an intelligent protagonist though he's also into sci-fi mecha animes and shonen.
Meanwhile I'm more into slice of life, comedy and/or romantic type animes. I tend to avoid sci-fi and mecha animes but I'm willing to watch it with some good friends or a guy I like.
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I fucking loved it, anime of the season for me. Anyone interested in it though NEEDS TO SKIP THE FIRST EPISODE. It isn't canon, it isn't good and it isn't representative of the rest of the show. Just watch from episode 2 onwards. Lucius is adorable and I love weird time travel stuff like this. It is a funny show with mild educational elements and even ends with a (live action) mini tour of Japanese baths and hot springs after each episode. FWIW I recommend the dub, its pretty good. The subject matter does mean there is a lot of nudity (more so than anything else I've seen) but a lot of it is technically hidden by way of camera angles, steam, bubbles and so on so the overall atmosphere isn't sexualized even though it easily could have been. If you want to enjoy it from a fanservice perspective you easily can but the show isn't catered to that. I really hope it gets a season 2 in part because the mangaka very overtly wrote herself in to interact with Lucius towards the story's end and I personally just think it is hilarious that such a niche character type (Ancient Roman bath architect) was this one woman's personal husbando. Oh and it wasn't enough to self insert she married an actual Italian man too, her IRL Lucius. End stage for a Husbandoist.
The BEST THING about the show though is that it has been making me have very relaxing spa themed dreams. I can't afford to go to a spa now IRL but at least I can enjoy them in my dreams thanks to this anime.
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Hate you have to learn it this way, but a lot of otaku fujo women are coomer brainrotted as well. Let me just point towards the myriad of yaoi where being penetrated and femininity in general is seen as lowly and the guy says 'oh no I'm being turned into a fucktoy like a girl~' or something like that. Or look at the ton of ABO mpreg porn that spread to Japan as well, I even see fujos draw bestiality (VNs have it at least in weaker form, remember dmmd). It's very rare to find something anime related that's truly by women for women nowadays, most such creators moved to live action and dramas.
I'm just tired because the western anime fandom is full of pick-mes who want to be the cool girl that's fine with objectifying women and using epic loli reaction images, but on the other side of the coin you have twitter woke pick-mes who shit on any kind of femininity, everything has to be enby and the characters are gay babies while you are their caretaker, if you want a good female mc you are a lesbo hetfag. Lolcow would almost be the perfect site, but it has both of those types too.
first of all you're talking about very old early 2000s yaoi tropes that aren't even a thing anymore. second, what's the problem with ABO it's just a fantasy for fujos with mpreg/breeding fetish and not all of us like it. also dmmd has NO bestiality and i don't even see how that is relevant to the subject
you can't just single out fujos as being brainrot coomers when i've seen a ton of questionable yumejo porn, a lot of otome games have rape scenes, and don't get me started on the wattpad y/n stories with even stronger misogynistic undertones. that stuff to me is 10x more offensive than a random fuckboy twink getting his ass destroyed
Let me clarify for you: I meant that it's obvious from my post that I read fujo stuff too. I don't know why 4chan and lolcow fujos have this obsession with a yume vs fujo war. They are not old tropes because I still read doujins and fanart with those tropes today, hell, I see some of such stuff referenced on this site as well unless you only read the uwu fluffy gay men coming of age manga.
>what's the problem with ABO it's just a fantasy for fujos with mpreg/breeding fetish
This is like saying, what's wrong with human cattle doujins for moids? It's just a breeding fantasy and not all of them like it.>dmmd has NO bestiality and i don't even see how that is relevant to the subject
Read my original post again, I said VNs have it in weaker form and that was referring to the ending with trip and virus where a snake gets into Aoba's ass and a Lion licks his anus, you dumbass.>>203621
see this, again, keyword being a weaker form of beastshithttps://e-hentai.org/s/771ce26bf7/1886688-235>>203619
Open pixiv daily and you'll see such stuff. That's all you need. You'll find Aichi from that card game getting raped by a pig, piss stuff and very weird degenerate fetishes. If you dig deeper and find the artists twitters you'll see that they're women. Twisted Wonderland from modern stuff has plenty of degen shit for example. Do you remember the matsu bubble and the weird ryona/scat with them?>>203621>>203622
I've been hanging out with fujos for years, on tumblr and in the homo general on /a/ when it still existed, don't try to paint some pure image because you're being defensive kek. To me the ABO and degen fetish type is the same as coomers, just of a different gender. I don't uwu think of the poor men, I am fine with sexualizing and objectifying men, but degen fetishes are the same as coomer shit.
Just go look at twitter fanfics where jp writers call assholes pussies, I don't get on how many levels of delusion you have to be or you just stick to censored R15 western content.
If you actually read my original post >>203612
you'd see that I didn't single out fujos. I said how the coomer pick-mes and fujos are equally annoying. I personally just want content that panders to the female gaze without coomershit tropes taken from content made for men.
>>203615>despite BL being the only genre that is 100% catered to female wishes
Yes, it is true that yaoi is an effective moid repellent, but is it that good for women, honestly? What about the women who aren't particularly enthusiastic about guys kissing or fucking each other, should we force ourselves to like it instead of demanding more female-oriented content outside of yaoi? The reason I and the other anon are frustrated is because women who create anime art are mostly either male-pandering coomer artists or fujo artists, and we would like for more female creators to make stuff for women that isn't BL.
Scrotes bully and seethe at all women who like attractive 2D boys, not just fujos btw (they call yumejos "fujos" too). Also, liking shoujo doesn't make you a yumejo, shoujo can be enjoyed by anyone, but something like otome games is exclusively for women and have next to zero appeal for males, I don't know why you people always conflate shoujo anime with yumejo media, you don't even know if that anon is a yumejoshi.>>203624
Based post, except for this:>This is like saying, what's wrong with human cattle doujins for moids? It's just a breeding fantasy and not all of them like it.
ABO is pure fantasy and no man would ever be able to get pregnant, plus it doesn't involve women, there's no way that women can act it out in real life (unless you count trooning out, getting pregnant and pretending to be male). On the other hand, human cattle involves enslaving women and treating them like animals, which definitely happens in real life, and many scrotes fantasize about it. Maybe a better comparison would be ABO and futa shit.
Anyone else slightly dislike Yor from SxF? Maybe it's too early to tell but I dislike how the manga clowns on her for being clueless and not doing housework. >>203630>What about the women who aren't particularly enthusiastic about guys kissing or fucking each other, should we force ourselves to like it instead of demanding more female-oriented content outside of yaoi?
This is my problem with yaoi, it's less about objectifying men and it's more about adoring men's love for each other.
Gay scrotes are still pretty misogynistic, but that's irrelevant to this discussion>>203641>and if it was an anime about femdom or about women treating men badly what do you think would happen? majority would jerk off like crazy
NTA but I don't know what point you're trying to make here. The point is that scrotes, straight or gay, will infiltrate any female-oriented anime/manga/game genre, so the fact that the straight ones might watch some non-BL anime for women doesn't mean that we shouldn't demand more of it and settle for yaoi.
>>203648>you'll never be a perfect woman like shoujo/otome protagonists and no one will never love you like that
but that literally happens in every kind of media, also how hard is it to comprehend that what made you insecure might not even be noticed by other women, while they felt insecure by something you didn't notice elsewhere? Like this anon said >>203650
she doesn't even think shoujo MCs are perfect,. You happened to notice the way they are drawn, but that's because of the art style, and most girls don't think too much about it and still are capable of relating to those protagonists despite looking nothing like them.
Ok, the generic but pretty shoujo protagonists gave you more insecurities, but there are other women, like some (some
) fujos who feel insecure about being women because they idealize homosexual male relationships and see straight relationships and/or women as inferior, and others became insecure because they compared themselves to the female characters in hentai or haremshit that they watched. It's not the same for everyone.
>>203659>All recent yaoi I can think of are wholesome stuff
NTA but the more mainstream and milder shit is far from being the only kind of yaoi that's being produced these days. There's still tonnes of really explicit BL doujinshi and such being released. Also look at that popular yaoi game, that's not wholesome at all.
And she already talked about it here: >>203624>They are not old tropes because I still read doujins and fanart with those tropes today, hell, I see some of such stuff referenced on this site as well unless you only read the uwu fluffy gay men coming of age manga.
>>203648>you'll never be a perfect woman like shoujo/otome protagonists and no one will never love you like that
That's really sad nonnie
, I feel sorry for you.
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The one relatable shojo mc.
I'm not a fujo like I've said, I know only about mainstream stuff. My country has two very prolific yaoi publishers and they only come out with the most mild cutesy romance stuff (dozens of relases every month too). I think to know of such degenerate stuff you'd have to REALLY look for it. Meanwhile to find degenerate stuff for men I just need to look at top anime airig rn, full of rape and violence. Maybe instead of shitting yourself over such a small niche audience of women start caring about majority of moids?>>203662
??? Bitch what the fuck???
If you're not a fujo then why are you even making that argument? You really don't have to dig hard, I am in several anime fandoms and the twitter algorithm suggests me automatically fanart and posts from artists I don't follow. If you browse Japanese sites and fandom spaces it's even more obvious, and the only way I can filter it is by blocking specific ship names and even then I know some gross guro artists who don't tag their shit and don't go private.>Maybe instead of shitting yourself over such a small niche audience of women start caring about majority of moids?
This is the same as the argument that instead of censoring the small niche audience of lolicons we should first take care of real children in danger, moids pull that kind of argument all the time. You're obviously not in the community, some anons here are and see that shit all the time.
Yes, but I'm a huge otaku and the sheer volume of degeneracy I witness from males is astounding, meanwhile you argue about very small minority of djs that don't even get translated. How do you know that brutal gore, pig stuff is not drawn by men? You are fighting with imaginary enemies kek. Instead of tearing down other women (I doubt it's even women in most cases…), look at moids that completely dominate mainstream with their degeneracy. And tbh I don't care what some random Japanese girl draws to get off, I know it doesn't influence crimes or harm anyone. Meanwhile moids who get off to drawn children are likely to offend.
The argument you use on the other hand is "b-but what about female rapists!!!" when they are a very small percentage compared to crushing majority of degenerate and dangerous moids. Fuck you.>>203672
I'm not a fujo I don't really enjoy yaoi, so yes, I don't go out of my way to search for it.
>>203666>I think to know of such degenerate stuff you'd have to REALLY look for it
You can literally just google "yaoi read online" and you'll find it easily
Most fujos don't just consume the very few and cutesy/non-explicit BL anime there is, or the BL manga that is allowed to be officially published where they live, they become fujos through exposure to yaoi on the internet
rape and shotacon are the only disturbing things there (and frankly most shotacon art i've seen is just shota x older sister or art that is clearly done by gay moids). incest, age gap and gore are common in het fiction too. rape as a fetish is incredibly common in all female-oriented media, not just BL! yes i also hate it, but it's true that a lot of women fantasize about it, unfortunately i had a much older relative who was into that and she was obviously not a fujo
you claim to be a fujo but you seem to hate fujos more than anything else. women are also allowed to be into dark fiction, no boys will be hurt by a gay oviposition kink fic
I've been on here for years, but I digrees. I just find it depressing that in the arguably most male coomer ridden art form people still find a way to shit on women. I've been to many cons and I've seen a shitton on loli anime pillows in the open, I had guys tell me to my face that having slave gf would be hot as fuck because they played some visual novel with a girl that's physically disabled due to constant abuse, etc. A harmless fujo reading degenarate yaoi is literally hurting nobody but herself, but guys who are into degenerate shit don't only jack off to 2d. Lots of Japanese lolicons base their art on real children, and many of them offended or have plans of offending or own cp.>>203702
In your post, you are not like the other girls who like yaoi and coomer bullshit after all.>>203699
Because that's what she wrote about mostly, about bestiality and pig yaoi porn. Shotacon is obviously wrong and degenrate, but 99% of it is drawn for men by men.
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Can we have one week without talking about porn…>>203475
If he's too reluctant about Princess Tutu you could get him to watch Madoka Magica first, it's the usual gateway anime for scrotes to get into the magical girl genre
You supposedly claim you are not a fujo but you keep getting so invested in this discussion and whiteknighting, despite the fact you have no idea what media is popular among fujos, anons even linked you examples. Hell, I can go to my feed for the games I play and find you examples of jp female artists who draw pretty bad things, you can do it too if you go on twitter and pixiv so I don't know why you claim it's 99% drawn by men for men, you have no fucking clue.
And you refuse to listen, not all BL media is bad but anons hate the obvious degenerates with trash taste. And just because we dislike those types doesn't mean we think they're worse than men or that moids did nothing wrong. You are fighting imaginary enemies and getting upset that anons are "insulting women" and making links to otaku coomers when someone just said "I don't like this nor this".
I understand finding certain things repulsive, and I'm not trying to tell any fujo they are wrong for finding other women's behaviour cringy, but for god's sake read her original post I was replying to:>>203612
Embarrassing, the whole attitude "I'm not like other girls", yea she is so much better because she is not into mpreg or whatever. I don't understand those witch hunts for women and countless posts about pickmes when women are responsible for maybe 1% of degeneracy that's taking taking over anime.
>>203712>Because that's what she wrote about mostly, about bestiality and pig yaoi porn.
No. Not at all.>but a lot of otaku fujo women are coomer brainrotted as well. Let me just point towards the myriad of yaoi where being penetrated and femininity in general is seen as lowly and the guy says 'oh no I'm being turned into a fucktoy like a girl~' or something like that. Or look at the ton of ABO mpreg porn that spread to Japan as well, I even see fujos draw bestiality (VNs have it at least in weaker form, remember dmmd)
She mentioned something else that is more common in yaoi, ABO/mpreg, then said "I even see fujos draw bestiality", which isn't a lie at all, but the bestiality part wasn't the focus of her sentence, the focus was on how many fujos have coomer brainrot like the women who draw scroteshit porn, which, again, isn't a lie. In a later post she said this:>Open pixiv daily and you'll see such stuff. That's all you need. You'll find Aichi from that card game getting raped by a pig, piss stuff and very weird degenerate fetishes. If you dig deeper and find the artists twitters you'll see that they're women
And again she's not lying, even if such content is niche and not very popular, which she isn't denying, it does exist and it's made by women. But this part is not very important and it's only one of the most extreme examples among all the other kinds of fujo coomerism, you just chose to fixate on this one thing and ignore her actual argument.
Nowhere in her entire post did she say that she hates fujos or that they should stop doing what the do, or that they are just as bad as the moids who draw extreme porn. She's only saying that both pick-me women who draw porn for scrotes and a lot of fujos are coomers, and that she wishes there were more female artists who make stuff for women (unlike the pickmes) but isn't BL, because not all women like or exclusively like BL. We can want something like that and at the same time acknowledge that scrotes will always be worse, but that's not relevant to this discussion so bringing up male degeneracy to defend fujos from a non-existent attack is pointless. >>203709
NTA but why does talking about fujoism in an objective manner suddenly mean you're not a fujo, homophobic or a prude even if you consume yaoi regularly? Well sorry for not wanting to see homoerotic art all the fucking time, I guess?
The post you linked is saying the same thing as >>203716
hope you enjoy it!>>203581
love to support a queen, love to see a husbandofag winning
PLEASE watch it so we can later make a comfy bath thread to talk about warm baths, bath bombs, bubble bars, and so on.
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Oh if we’re taking baths I have to rec (sadly not an anime but a manga and drama) Furo Girl which is about a girl obsessed with bathing, love the series makes me want to get some citrus in my tub kek
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I think the choice of bathing subjects works to the manga's/show's favor. Bathing is something everyone
does, not just hot, young people and this fact motivates Lucius to design baths that are accessible for bathers of all ages. It would be a very different, more limited, and potentially more voyeuristic show if it only featured attractive people as bathers. The show overall does a good job of handling nudity in a non-sexualized, non-voyeuristic way and I would not have anticipated that it was possible to depict the subject matter in that sort of way prior to seeing this.
I hope you have a nice hot spring's dream tonight nona.>>203739
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Death Note is an obvious suggestion so maybe you've seen it, but AOT and Avatar are entry level too so maybe not? If you want more dark, violent fantasy like AOT there's Fate/Zero and Tokyo Ghoul. Initial D for a totally different tone but it's easily the most addictive series I've seen despite not caring about cars at all. Or if you want to dive into a long ass series that involves so much talking you won't be able to think inbetween the dialogue, LoGH.
Seconding the Fullmetal Alchemist suggestion
Gundam: Thunderbolt movie
Ranking of Kings (seems cutesy but it's a bit brutal and draws you in completely)
>>203932>Or if you want to dive into a long ass series that involves so much talking you won't be able to think inbetween the dialogue, LoGH.
I wasn't sure if I should recommend this one kek
But yeah, I second this suggestion>>203410
It didn't exactly ruin it for me, instead I just see it as a completely different series, although comparing the two as I watched DNT was fun. There are people who watched the OVA a long time ago and loved it, and are enjoying this new adaptation too. So if you don't mind the new designs and the new voices (which btw I think they tried to make as similar as possible to the OVA ones in some cases, but with varying degrees of success) you might like it. It's not as bad as I initially thought, that's for sure. If you haven't read the novels it might even get you to read them. The characters are still the same for the most part except for what I mentioned previously, if that's what you're worried about.
Well, my love for Yang Wen Li do warrants at least a look at more footage of him…
Alright, I'll give the first season a try, then if I finish it we'll motivate each other to watch the rest
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>>204073>Well, my love for Yang Wen Li do warrants at least a look at more footage of him…
Have you watched the Gaiden series yet, nona? I've downloaded it but not watched it, in part because I really miss Yang's original voice actor.
(The other reasons are that I don't like the animation compared to the more classic look in the main series and tha I'm not sure if my favorite character will show up at all.)>Alright, I'll give the first season a try, then if I finish it we'll motivate each other to watch the rest
It's a deal! By the way, I have skipped season 2 entirely just to watch the episode where a certain someone adopts his dog
, and it made me insanely happy how they made that part longer than in the OVA or
the novels, so you might enjoy some of the "new" or expanded scenes with Yang. And if you don't like something in the new anime you can always take the OVA as canon, lol. But it's always fun seeing new takes on the same story and characters.
A bit irrelevant, but there are some really nice shots, like this one imo.
There's another series?>50 episodes
I'll add it to the pile>it made me insanely happy how they made that part longer than in the OVA or the novels
So it was you who posted that part of the novel in another thread!
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>>204105>There's another series?
Yup, it's based on the Gaiden series of novels, but I don't think those books have been translated. Anyway this series is a bunch of side-stories about events that happened before the main story.
I sure hope you watched the introductory movie to the original OVAs "My Conquest is the Sea of Stars", and the sequel "Overture to a New War" which is a remake of the first two episodes with a lot of new scenes. If you haven't, go watch them right now!>So it was you who posted that part of the novel in another thread!Yes that was me haha
I would also rec hunter x hunter, I binge watched all of the old version in 24 hours. Also Kaiba, I had to force myself to watch only one episode per day because it was so interesting.
Oofuri, Natsume Yuujinchou, both very fun to watch and have lots of episodes.
I think re:zero would work if you want some shocking, cheap entertainment ala AoT.
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So what would be some essential girly anime? Please add to my list or suggest what to remove, nonnies. In no particular order some that come to my mind:
>Rose of Versailles
>Sugar Sugar Rune
>Ouran Host Club
>Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun
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>this is supposed to be "female gaze" art
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looking for cute anime posters to print out and hang up on my wall so please show me your favourites!
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This anime might have the most blatant example of a manic pixie dream girl I've ever seen, kaori as a character feels too unreal in the context of the story even her tragic death has a fairytale vibe to it, I didn't feel any emotion when it happened. I like how they explored arima's trauma though. The animation and the OSTs are amazing too and much to my surprise there's no sexualization so overall it wasn't a bad anime and not completely waifu-centric… still I feel like they could've done a better job and the drama is too forced at times
Samefag but to add on something more: i don't like how so many anime series try to make the audience sympathize with abusive
parents like "yeah she traumatized and beat her son until he bled but she was ill and had her reasons and actually loves him"
bullshit. In fact, the whole show excuses abuse cause kaori and tsubaki are also violent with him for muh slapstick comedy
Oh I completely agree. It's just old man overload, especially in the beginning.
I just finished the series! It was fun.
Feeling really sorry for Livia though. Imagine being a Roman woman, very dependant on your husband, and just there to have children basically. But your husband is away for 3 years with the gay emperor, and never makes babies with you despite being married together for many years.
Very common in my culture too. When I was 9 one of my classmates had very abusive
parents and my dad was like "well they're strict with her to make sure she doesn't take the wrong path". A few years later she was 12 and posting very inappropiate pics… haven't heard about her in years, hope she is doing better at least
This is not the appropriate thread to talk about this since it's technically manga, but why are 90% of TL mangaka so utterly unable to truly draw female gaze? A lot of fanartists on Pixiv and shit are way better at it.
"Oooh dominant sadistic sexy man seduces the MC while she's all blushing with her tits out and half-naked" oh fuck off
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Anyone has seen new Dance Dance Danseur episode? The ballet scenes were so captivating I couldn't take my eyes off the screen, and ended up rewatching it right away (and I don't even like ballet). 100% made up for all that cheap drama in 3rd episode.
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Nta but I really love the fairytale atmosphere of the anime since I also love Studio Ghibli films. Though the relationship between Elias and Chise is a little questionable to others since Chise is a teenage fiancee to an ancient demon but I'm a sucker for monster boy x human girl especially if the monster boy is gentle.
I'm sorry can you tell me the name of this manga, I want to know what exactly is female gazey about this?>>204181
god I knew this was going to suck when I see guys into it/Kaori, Idk I kept on thinking it was a weird ass sequel to March Comes in like a Lion, probably the mc with glasses and month names kek
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It’s great and very underappreciated in the west. It never really got pushed as hard as other shoujo at the time but it’s a huge classic and very famous in Japan. I like how Maya is not the typical ditzy protagonist, she is a bit naive sometimes but that’s because she’s literally a kid at the start of the show. Otherwise she is so hardworking and determined, she’s truly admirable. There are also a lot of cool, serious scenes about acting and getting into a character’s mindset. It’s fascinating. I love the relationship between her and her rival, Ayumi. It starts out antagonistic especially Ayumi towards Maya, but they grow as people and learn to respect one another which is amazing to see between two female characters. Heads up that there is quite a large age gap romance between Maya and her love interest. Fortunately, it is very minimally focused on in the show.
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Michiko to Hatchin! Both because it focuses on women and because it's directed by one. Sayo Yamamoto gave this great interview before it came out where she said something like, she made it for office women to watch after coming home, putting their feet up, and grabbing a beer. I love that.
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Just watched it! Yes, we finally got the sort of performance we'd been waiting for after the shitshow that was the last episode. Luou is so cute and it may be a common trope (same scenario with Ballroom e Youkoso) but the "newbie reinvigorates passion of pro" schtick worked well again. I hope we'll get to see more dancing now and it's won't segue into another drama session.
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More like: anons on lolcow have an outdated view on yumejos and the actual female gaze.>post art where the woman is dominant - ewww, this is coomer art>post art where the man is dominant - lol typical abusive man shit
In the manga Livia doesn't stay with Lucius. I guess they kept her for the running gag of her failed attempts to seduce him. I mean, it is funny but its too easy to feel sorry for her as well. Or maybe they kept her around so there was a convenient reason for why Lucius rejected that one female bather that was flirting with him. I would disagree with that being needed though, Lucius isn't demonstrated to be lascivious, he actually kind of comes across as a bit shy/prudish. Would it really have been so unbelievable for him to decline sex even if he wasn't married?
If they make a season 2 Livia will need to divorce Lucius so he can get with the Mangaka's self insert.
Either way I'm glad you liked it!
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Most shoujo and josei coming out rm has distinctively female gaze art though. Manga comimg out in magazines like Dessert, HanaYume, Lala DX, Zero Sum, Betsucomi, Princess, Feel Young (ignore Usagi Drop), Cocohana and many many more. >>204336
I think there's a lot of variety nowadays, there are short guys, handsome tall guys, younger guys, older guys, sweet guys, tsundere guys, beautiful guys, plain guys, etc
IDC what people say about maledom or femdom (or vanilla) yume art, female gaze should be focused on the male and appealing to women that way, not making the woman look better or "juicier". The pic you posted is alright and I'd consider it female gaze, but this shit doesn't even look like the artist tried >>204168
it's almost exactly the same as male gaze in hentai except that guy also appears in the picture and his face is not hidden. That's just not femgaze, sorry.
I read the manga. IDK why I thought it's gonna be shoujo, but it wasn't. I think there are panty shots of Kaori in the quirky meet cute of her and the protagonist. You have no idea, how much I've hated this piece of crap series. Everyone claimed it's sOoOoOoOo deep and touching, but it's all cheap melodrama. oh how tragic, the perfect waifu MPDG does so the boring protag can play music again!
The worst thing is that Kaori is insufferable, and the series lives and dies on the viewer finding her endearing.
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I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who hated it, I only watched the anime because at least I could listen to the music but god the characters were insufferable and the drama was so stupid, it has since become one of my redflag anime.
Also nitpick but I hate how some manga have child characters drawn and it was particularly egregious there, I think they were supposed to be 11 in the flashbacks yet they looked like that, I couldn't take any of these scenes seriously when the characters looked like overgrown toddlers.
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wish hating on this series was more widespread.
not even sentaro being right up my alley as a husbando could save ut
Would you elaborate, nonnie
? I remember it being alright, other than the MC trying to force himself on the main girl, but it wasn't portrayed as something romantic.
Do you even need to ask? You like what you like, and you like women, so it's to be expected.>>204359
Like the other anon said, I think the main problem is that the artists don't get creative, and instead just reproduce malegaze visual tropes. The other problem, I think, is that a lot of them are fujos too, and they're used to focusing a lot on the sub, which in most TL manga/yume art translates into female focus.
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I'm reading the manga, which almost exactly the same as the anime up until a point where…Livia divorced him not only because he was gone for years but because he was impotent. Then he teleports into a japanese fertility festival, gets a boner from a pretty japanese woman and then gets attacked by a ton of old ones. Kek wtf this is wild.>>204346
Can you recommend any good mangas from those magazines?
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I’ve been rewatching Seraph of the End, I used to be obsessed with it as a high schooler for some reason. Somehow it’s both better and worse than I remembered. Sucks that it will never get another season because the second part flopped bad with the sales.
Mika is a top tier bishie though. We need more blonde bishies with long eyelashes and thigh highs in anime.
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I never finished that but Mika was super cute. If you want to see another blonde suffering bishie voiced by Kensho Ono there's Slaine from Aldnoah.
Cons:>awful ending>show has a self insert MC for "uh achually" scrotes
Pros:>torture scene>fluffy puppy boy in love slowly loses hope and goes on a political conquest
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Apparently the new black rock shooter anime is an insane loli rape baby fest and disney is funding it
Picture is nothing nsfw, just a creepy design of a muscly demon thing
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Apparently there's a robot voiced by sugita who rapes lolis to inject them with nanomachines and turn them into robots. And there's those weird red baby things everywhere.
Don’t they get tired of writing shit like this? Do they reread what they write, at all? Like, imagine having this displayed on a board and being like >okay, and this is when she asks her if she wants to have sex because she’s bored>very good, sir>splendid idea, sir>wow! I wouldn’t have thought about it that way myself, sir! You’re an absolute genius!
I need to know the kind of copium they huff before drawing, animating and recording all of this. If I was a voice actress I would be disgusted.
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On the bright side I think those might be troll subs, at least I hope so.
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Same. I also have a thing for two-faced bitches that do peace signs or tehepero expressions.
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slaine is one of my favorites also. I have recently rewatched the first season of aldnoah zero just for him but I can’t sit through the mess that is the second season one more time lol
The torture scene is just iconic.
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Cute Eichi cute half Hiiro
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little blonde bitches 4ever!
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Speaking of blonde bitches, when I was a kid I used to be in love with pic rel.>>204781
Except there are no scenes with "raping lolis", and subs anon linked are blatant trolling. Yea the series is trash and boring af though. They also butchered character designs, especially my favourite Dead Master. I loved the design made by Huke, she looked scary and dainty at the same time, without being oversexualized like BRS. Meanwhile in the anime she is ugly af and basically naked.
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I'm not gonna post the rape scene webm, go to /a/ for that.
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It wasn't a loli though, those are grown women. Rape is disgusting and the series is very bad, but there hasn't been any pedo rape as far as ep 5 (I haven't watched 6th episode yet).
And side note, but oh god is /a/ trashy nowadays. 99% of userbase have clearly not even seen 20 shows, and the only dedicated anime fans left are some disgusting pedos. There's almost no discussion of non-mainstream series, it's all just endless tiktok memes or "I want to bang this and this 10 year old looking girl". I wonder if there's any other anime chan that has better discussion?>>204890
It's a crime he's not in the manga.
>>204913>I wonder if there's any other anime chan that has better discussion?
Ignoring the fact that almost every altchan has better hobby discussion than 4shit and that this imageboard is the best if you want non-scrote opinions, wapchan is a relatively recent one that is mainly dedicated to retro anime stuff (pre-2000s). You can have good discussion there, although it's a pretty slow site with few regular users. I think they're also considering addding a board for 2000s anime when they get big enough.>It's a crime he's not in the manga.
NTA but he's not? I had no idea, since I've never read the manga.
The MC is sooo insufferable>>204783
Kek, now I'm interested in watching that train wreck
Maybe you could try checking sushigirl.us
I honestly can't tell you personal experience (never gone there much) but I hear it's less chaotic than 4chan
Thanks for recommendation! Honestly, I always thought /a/ was a decent board, I preferred it over older imageboards. It had plenty of fun, insightful and fact-paced discussion, funny inside culture (Accelerator saga), helpful anons that would translate/draw stuff for you, cute singing events, etc. Throughout the years it became kind of my comfort space, esp since I filtered out obvious coomer stuff. But nowadays it's so empty and trashy, idk how or when it changed so much.
And yeah the entire 2nd season with Alois is basically a fanfic, unfortunately he never appears in the manga. Toboso used to post art of him, but that was it.>>204925
Ty so much, I haven't been on there in a while!
Witch Hunter Robin, Shigofumi (the mc is a child though, but it fits if you look past it), Alita, maybe Vampire Princess Miyu (that's more like a lighter version of Boogiepop with monster of the week shoujo story).>>204979
What? The show is nasty but there weren't any scenes of child sa.
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>>204930>funny inside culture (Accelerator saga)
How I miss that, in general raildex threads used to be a blast back when season 2 was coming out. It was a shitty anime but the threads were hilarious
I can't stomach /a/ nowadays, it's a pity.
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She is 11 according to the wikihttps://blackrockshooter.fandom.com/wiki/Miya
What the hell is this weird argument about "grown ass women", are you a coomer?
Nta but Shinoa was fine until she got turned into the boring love interest of the extremely stupid MC (Yu). It also reeks of coomer with all the boob-grabbing scene with the other girl and all the "I'm horny and in love with the protagonist, I can't help it but I must resist uwu" shit.
I also fucking hate the whole family talk and Guren stabbing literally everyone in the back while acting like a mysterious guy and everyone being fine with that. The show and manga are plagued by shitty shonen writing, which is a shame because some characters are (or were) interesting.
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LET'S GOOOOOOO! I'm so freacking happy!
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I just think it's really cute they dropped it on Shige's bday (my fav Taurus bb) I'm so so READY to get wrecked by the broccoli arc, Dimple's last words in the trailer, fucking sobbing yall. Hands down one of the best animes I've ever seen and I'm so glad Bones got it and made it so sakuga (also can't forget their horniness for Reigen kek)
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Coming Fall 2022, that's so soon. Can't wait to see Reigen again.
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I thought that was a cute detail too lol. I cannot wait for broccoli arc and ???% arc, I know Bones is going to go all out. I'm not sure if there's that much material for a season as long as the first two though.
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I'M SO EXCITED AND HAPPY!! I'm currently reading the manga post season 2 and I love this series so much!
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Yuru Camp if you haven't watched it yet! Also Touken Ranbu Hanamaru is really chill.
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Season 2 when
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Seconding Hanamaru, I began to watch it when I woke at night with horrible anxiety and wanted something dumb to laugh at. But I ended up unironically enjoying it, I'm a saniwa now.
I haven't watched either but I'm really interested. What's your opinion on Nodame Cantabile and Ristorante Paradiso?
Also funny that Sukeban Deka is a shōjo manga that was created by a man. A rare exception I guess. But does it have a largely female fanbase? I have no idea.
Lmao I hated the plot too, so much stupid drama with the wannabe commie college student and his girlfriend. This mangaka got so lucky from this series and the soundtrack of the anime being as good as it was.>>205833
NAYRT but I love Gente and Ristorante Paradiso. Natsume Ono is so good at writing slice of life manga, the characters could literally be staring at paint dry and she’d make it enjoyable to read.
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That's it, I've watched the first season
I have to say I was pleasantly surprised. The animation team knew that the worst part of the OVA was how it looked, and everything just looks much, much better now, in no small part thanks to 40 years of technological progress. The cities look believable, the backgrounds are refined, there are even some close ups on the food the characters eat, which make the whole universe feel much more alive. Since the sometimes outright weird aspect of the OVA was what kept irking me, I felt much more immersed. I even liked the 3D ships, which are miles above the 50 dots on an animation cel sliding across the screen in the OVA
I think the most important difference was that the OVA treated the story as a documentary, while the new series treat it more like a regular fiction. For instance, the only music the OVA had was monotonous classical music, and the dialogues were much more succinct and to-the-point with very few pauses between each lines, which are characteristic of documentaries, where the focus is on conveying information rather than making something exciting. The introduction dialogue between Kircheis and Oberstein is about 25 seconds longer in DNT, which is an enormous difference considering that it is nearly the same word-for-word: what changes is longer pauses, which is what would occur in a natural dialogue. Both design choices are understandable, albeit to me anime is a worse medium than a book to make a documentary, so I'm glad with the choice made in DNT. It's certainly a bit more dramatic than the OVA (that seizure scene kek), but it's still less dramatic than the average anime, which to me shows it's still true to the spirit of LotGH
In any case I'm down to watch more, are you still willing to watch the rest of DNT?
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>>205893>shojosei anime is sadly dead
Holy shit, you were right. Pic related is the number of anime series on MyAnimeList by demographic. Look at how rarely Josei gets adapted into anime.>>205968
kek, basically everything you dislike or like less about the OVA is what makes me like it more than DNT. But you're also totally right I must admit. Like this>the 3D ships, which are miles above the 50 dots on an animation cel sliding across the screen in the OVA
made me laugh out loud because it's so true.
The way you describe the OVA, as a documentary, is an pretty accurate description, and might be why I prefer the old series as well.
I guess DNT is really made for a whole different audience, which isn't a bad thing at all. Even though I don't like DNT as much, as long as more people find out about LoGH I'm happy, no matter which version. It sucks that Crunchyroll apparently didn't advertise the third season when it came out (iirc they didn't even announce it), they don't seem to be promoting this new series a lot.>In any case I'm down to watch more, are you still willing to watch the rest of DNT?
I'm glad you liked it so much. I'm still interested in watching seasons 2 and 3 (maybe not right now, but soon), like I said before, it's fun to compare both versions to see what major differences there are, not to mention that I'm dying to know how they'll handle certain scenes. And I can't wait to see how the newcomers will react to other plot twists! That's very fun too.
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I watch so much seasonalshit that I barely have time to work through my backlog anymore. I think I need to stay away from new shows for a year or two until I get through a good amount. Did anyone else ever have this problem?
I used to do up to 20 shows a few years ago but after culling certain types of shows by default now I usually range around 10, inbetween my work that still feels like a lot obviously kek but yeah. I’ll try that out after I finish up my shows this season! There’s a bunch on my backlog that I’m looking forward to.>>206490
Anotsu from Blade of the Immortal. Great manga, don’t watch the anime.
>>206548>the entire internet
we're on very different spheres of the web then. what i'm seeing is a lot of women self-inserting into the female lead, gushing over the dull-looking father figure, and people going "what we're not gonna do is SEXUALIZE THIS LITERAL CHILD AAAAH" in reference to the pink-haired girlie
miss when the shows that got wildly popular were actually good. like code geass.
Some nonnies itt are either complete newfags who barely watched any anime or are just looking for outrage, I've personally never seen lewd SxF art (I have no doubt it exists, but if you aren't in any seedy places you ain't going to find it), in fact I've only seen some thirst posts about Loid. In the anime itself they aren't sexualized at all, sure they both have attractive character designs, but nothing vulgar or overexaggerated. I understand why My Dress up Darling was frowned upon, it had entire episode dedicated to "exploring" naked body of 15 yo, and from skipping through some other eps I've seen ecchi scenes with character who didn't look older than 8. There's nothing of the sort in SxF, but reading some posts here would make you think they are flashing titty every episode kek.>>206742
Lol when CG was coming out people were complaining that only dramatic and silly mecha anime ever get popular. But I agree, I wish we got some epic, dramatic, absurd, anime-original story again.>>206557
Hell yeah Bookworm is so good! This season there's also Healer Girl, Paripi Koumei, Deaimon, Zero's Tea time, all great shows.
Name your favorite shows.>>206540
Most people who watch anime don't pickup every piece of seasonal garbage.
>>206837>complains about seasonal garbage >likes code Geass
I rewatched it with my bf recently and it was so much worse than I remembered. I remember forcing myself to watch it a bit since it was such a popular anime on 4chan. But I definitely wouldn't finish it today.