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>>194918It's not ALL scrote pandering. It depends on the Vtuber some are really wholesome and nice I use their streams to practice my Japanese too! Also I just really like Karaoke streams it's a really fun way to interact with an audience. For example Tsukinoki Tirol has a really cute cottage core aesthetic and these really nice lil morning streams. Her Japanese is simple and easy to understand and she sings well.
I love anime and I think vtubers are nice because there is an art angle to it,also I just love that they're playing a character because you also get these really fun little lore videos when they debut. They spark joy! I just really don't like the Vtuber community it feels like nothing is sacred. No matter how non lewd a character is they always gotta make it weird.
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>>195124I like Pikamee's original a lot more too the new one feels so basic. It just isn't as unique or stand out anymore. I love the toony model she had before.
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I love Ike Eveland!
No. 196792
>>196749I’ll keep this brief because this is not a drama thread but, Tbf mori creates drama too often. I don’t keep up with her but I’m aware of it because her antics leak into everyone else(even my oshi) which is concerning.
>>196546Love her!!! She married recently and I’m just glad for vtubers with balanced lives. Menhera can be fun but stressful.
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>>196803I saved this to read it personally, but I’ll
share it here too.
No. 197016
>>196984>>196986Literally why get into an idol fandom and then complain about it being idol centric? There are other vtuber companies you can watch that aren’t idol focused.
>>196986> You just want 100 sex dolls with the same 3 stock personalitiesNo? You’re pulling a lot of assumptions out of nowhere. I want to watch girls who empower each other to become stars. If you watch their streams you would see how hard they work. Their managers do not control what they do or say to the degree you think. The fact you talk this way makes me think you aren’t even a viewer.
No. 197022
>>197016I agree, I like the image of female friends working together and supporting each other to become stars, ik it's weeby, but when they do stuff like drawing for each other, helping each other with games/pc issues, whatever, prepare in advance, etc. it's just sweet.
>>196986Wtf… How did you get that "sex doll" bit from what she typed? Honestly, nobody would care if she had a rough personality, that's popular with female and male fans too, but being disrespectful towards her coworkers while worshipping random males who act like autistic coomers is embarrassing.
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Thoughts on the vshojo faction?
I think hime hajime has the weakest design
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>>197505How about we avoid talking about vt and not attract scrotes here?
Anyways I love Selen’s laugh and her streams feel like watching an older sister play games
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Not everything revolve around scrotes, dumbasses.
I am sad about nijiEN having so many males now, I enjoyed watching basically all of them until it all was only about collabs with males. I still love Selen, Nina, Yugo, Enna, Wosemi, Ike but everyone else I’d rather ignore, especially Vox and Mysta. I loved Mysta at first but he’s such an attentionwhore it’s difficult to ignore that. Vox on the other hand has so many redflags he seems like a toxic groomer to me.
Ike was a blessing, though, I have so much fun in his streams and his music taste is top notch, I can’t wait to listen to his music
No. 197838
>>197832rumors say ike is also a groomer
the guy behind mysta is a straight up incel
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>>198028Mayuzumi is my favorite, he's the only vtuber I can truly stomach through since he doesn't scream every 5 seconds and doesn't act like a 5 year old retard that ate too much sugar. His personality is pretty autistic but so am I.
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>>198028Shoto,Mori,and Juniper Actius for English streamers,for JP streamers it's Korone,Polka,and peko. I'm really big on design but personality and stream style matter a lot to me too. With Japanese streamers I expect more cutesy stuff from jp streamers I guess but with English streamers I expect chill vibes.
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I'm not interested in Vtubers, not for anything related to the fandom, I just find them kind of boring; but some time ago I found out about this guy Kanae and ngl, I want to give this a try. He is so cute… ♥
No. 199598
>>199437I've seen someone else (on some other thread or site) say the same. Maybe I'll watch him too
especially since I'm into meganes>>199534How so?
No. 207224
Enna is underrated imo. Amazing singer and one of the few in Nijisanji EN to have original music, good at making natural monologue and has a lot of interesting and funny stories, very quick witted with jokes when around other people. I think her design is kinda offputting because it's overdesigned and overly moe, which is a huge shame because I think she's got a personality that's very amusing to watch. I hope when Ethyria gets new outfits hers is something more widely appealing.
>>199534Kanae is one of the few male vtubers I trust because a ton of female members of Nijisanji have openly talked about how kind and reliable he is. They could just be dicksucking because he's popular, but it seems like he's genuinely professional and helpful because of how many people have said it.
No. 207448
>>207224I think all the girls in nijiEN are underrated. Thanks to the males, they're finally getting more traction.
slight salt derail, but as someone who loves both holo/niji, it upsets me that Pomu/Finana were rejected from En2 for Sana. A lot of the niji girls show passion and constantly want to push content to become idols. Then there's Sana who did this on a whim and didn't really care for vtuber/idol culture in her previous life.
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I may have found the first VTuber I like after Gibara? She showed her endoscopy images on her first stream, unhinged
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my favorite vtuber is pastaroniravioli! she's so sweet and her laugh could cure millions.
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Sooooo…somebody on /vt/ leaked that Ollie mentioned in her members stream that she is organizing an all-branch collab (implying Holostars are included), and that IRyS was invited. Now the whole board is up in flames.
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Everyone on /vt/ should be gather up again a wall and shot in fucking skull.
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>>212720>watch the girl I liked gets fucked while I hand the couple condon and tissueKEKKKK just give in you useless waste of space, you are just a subhuman paypig. How do they possibly feel NTR’d now, when the same anime girl regularly gets cum tributed by 1000 other fat ugly bastards.
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Literally me
No. 213720
>>213630she just like me fr
Really though, I think vtubers should stop trying to branch out into anime/games and such (there are old examples from peak Kizuna Ai era that everyone seems to have forgotten already) but the Alternative trailers do have gorgeous animation.
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>>213630Why is 4chan so misandrist?
No. 214168
>>214136All of that is the worst part about them. I just want to watch otaku women have fun together. Even if you wanted yuribait, they are so overt and corny, men must have omega brain damage to be turned on by the fake as fuck porn acting. What happened to subtlety.
>>214085Agreed.
No. 214280
>>214136>The only actual lesbian in EN is Kroniikronii is cool
also when i heard of irys "being a
terf/transphobic" i thought i would find sick leaks of her ranting about trannies or being transphobic with friends in a group chat… no it's a clip of her saying she like traps i guess?
No. 214289
>>214275Then why did she post selfies with her bf and kept pandering to men with lewd cosplay photos, while also being a jealous bitch towards other weebs (talking shit about venus and others in public while trying to make herself look superior)? I remember she had a lot of boyfriends and her last one in Japan ended badly.
>>214280There was a clip where she said trap word but TRAs claim its a transphobic one. She has a lot of Sjw haters for some reason, they started spreading that she is a
TERF because they noticed she started lighting up the color of her model to make sure the skin is a bit lighter and ever since these people cant shut up that shes racist. You can find these people on Twitter
No. 214290
>>214289Irys does holds up on saying n-thing, though. Other than that I don’t care about her, I hate her voice and personality.
>>214168>men must have omega brain damage to be turned on by the fake as fuck porn acting.Men have no idea what irl women are like. That’s why they gravitate towards the fakest women and fakest acts.
I can’t stand Fauna and how obviously fake she is, yet is the one that attracts more goslings, others being Ame and Irys.
No. 214312
>>214275I doubt that was anything more than a
le grabs boobies from behind gag
>>214198>role plays a huge titted anime girl>NB shitDisappointed but not surprised
So, do you consider it ~*
problematic*~ to enjoy Masaru Suzuki (shota avatar)? It’s clearly a woman and the fanbase is women. I think the crossplay thing is cringe tho.
No. 214475
>>214312She hates the fact how her vtuber avtar has a huge underboob window and it shows, but in Hololive, just like in Nijisanji you don't get to choose the avatar they give to you, nor change. I recall Mori said she would have wanted to be tomboyish and have a flat chest with her vtuber avatar during one of the Jump King streams, and she doesn't remove the jacket off her second outfit too often, as it becomes coomerbait-y. Regardless Mori is still a NLOG weeb, but I appreciate her for being honest for using Hololive to climb in fame. It's obvious she will graduate once Hololive will stop giving her big music opportunities.
How long have any of you been into corpo vtubers? I've been watching Hololive and Nijisanji since 2019 all because I discovered Mito. She is way more shameless in terms of degeneratory (but still doesn't pander to men, just doing her own 'haha funny' thing) than Marine but also pretty creative when it comes to that. For example her ACNH streams were the only vtuber NH streams I was interested in watching.
No. 214667
>>214475I was really into Kaguya Luna back in the older vtuber days, when she stopped updating I stopped really caring, then in 2020 during lockdown I saw this video about Kanae and it pulled me into Nijisanji and later Hololive. Even though I generally dislike the corporatization of internet creators, for some reason corporate vtubers are just more appealing to me than indie vtubers or regular streamers. Maybe because they have to be vetted in so they're not as boring or
problematic and the designs are generally cute.
Mito is absolutely based, I love her.
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I hate this parasocial groomer so much.
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>>214475I miss her so much
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>>213630Clearly inspired by:
No. 219400
>>218212I don't think Vox would have a better experience. That's what comes with fame (and gachikoi baiting).
>>218214We call that an "artstyle".
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>>218763unrelated but the bit about having your creativity restricted or the company trying to control it is similar to the situation that mayuzumi kai from nijisanji was going through. It apparently got to the point where he decided to graduate.
It's a lot harder because you don't have a big name to boost you but going indie looks more preferable than joining a company
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>>220691Mayuzumi's graduation genuinely pains me. I've been watching his story unfold since debut, and him leaving while it hasn't been completed hurts. I wish he could have graduated in a similar manner as Ikasumi— when he had felt that had done everything he could have as "Mayuzumi Kai".
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Another one graduating at the end of July. I don't watch Hololive so I don't know anything about her. Were there ever any clues before the announcement that she was planning on graduating, like there were for Mayuzumi?
No. 221018
>>221010I'm actually not surprised about this. Right after she debuted she had a lot of personal life issues that made her unable to stream, so she lost a ton of growth early on. She apparently is also dealing with a back injury, I don't know much about that but I can't imagine that it didn't play a part in it. And then ofc she is also a full time artist outside of Hololive, so it probably came down to choosing one or the other. Early on she said that she auditioned for Hololive because she wanted to have a life outside of her art, but ultimately I don't think she was ready to be a streamer full time for such a big company.
From my perspective Mayu is someone who was very ambitious with creative decisions as a streamer and had a lot of success, his downfall came from the company holding him down, where Sana had a rough start from the beginning and seemed to have struggled all the way through, the only thing really keeping her relevant as a streamer was the Hololive brand and she probably felt that she couldn't live up to it. That's just my perspective though.
No. 221056
just gonna drop the whole roommate taboo bs and just say names(literally no one outside the internet actually respects these unspoken rules)
>>221010not at the time but yes in retrospect. Everything
>>221018 said is spot on.
>ina crying randomly on stream a week ago>vague tweets from all her genmates referencing crying/feeling sad a week before>sana's gen having merch to celebrate a "half" year. At this point people already speculated how weird it was but this was probably the time she decided to quit. Ofc cover wanted to squeeze as much money before her contract was up>sana's radio silence compared to her constant art twitter updates>creating her own youtube channel and streaming last month despite barely streaming as sanaAnyways here's my schizo rant on this whole thing,
Namie being a vtuber is the worst fucking thing to happen to her. I'm speaking as a fan of her Pokemon/touhou art for years and was cheering for her success. Like previous anon says, this was her chance to let people know the real her. There were moments where she was an endearing dork, but the majority of what little she streamed showed her awful work ethic, awkwardness, and shallowness tbh. I always thought it was kind of weird she loved tourabu/FGO despite not being able to read JP fluently. Turns out she gets into things purely for aesthetic. In vidrel, she says she hasn't played through any of the genshin story, but that she spent a lot of money off stream for the past month to get the pretty characters.
If it truly was health issues stopping her from streaming, I would be more forgiving, but there is so much evidence she put out there where her condition was not as bad as she made it out to be. It's infuriating, she could've been the next hit vtuber but she didn't even fucking try. I wish I never knew more about her and just blindly enjoyed her art, now I can't unsee how much of a lazy and hollow person Namie is.
Anyways I'll end this rant with this funny moment from one of her streams
https://youtu.be/dmHmjrVAyAE?t=1625tl;dw someone gave her $500 for curing his depression with her streams and she just awkwardly laughs at him lol
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It's sad that Sana is graduating, because I think her and Baelz (If Sana could have more opportunities; after all she made a huge effort during her debut, made sure to stay in character and keep the quirks, astrology streams, knowing Japanese) are the best ones out of the Council. I am biased towards Kronii, but I would put her as the 3rd best.
>>221056Out of all graduations, I think Sana one is the best one by far. In my opinion (and from her artist activity) I think she realised that she would rather earn money with her art talent (you earn a lot from making artworks for FATE franchise, which she does) than by sitting in front of a camera and play games for 8 hours. Its a shame, really, but in Hololive even under contract they tell you that you should deliver content 3 times a week. Idiots compare her to Ayame but in Ayames case, she have been streaming daily for a long time, and only later started facing IRL problems which still did not mean she wasn't doing anything for Hololive; if you watch Marine or other JP streamers they would tell you that they see Ayame in COVER office quite often. She works on dancing, voice acting the holograph and their other projects (and ads), etc. You can't compare a person living in Japan where the company is and someone who is overseas…
>>221485…and thats what vshojo gave to her. A painfully stupid pornhub outfit that is so thoughtless you can tell its drawn by a different artist. It looks like as if she used some random Twitter copypaste for vtubers. I think their choice to take Rushia is both smart and stupid. Its smart because vshojo is not a "talent agency", its just a rich man hiring everyone who has a huge following and is already a cashcow (Rushia was the top superchatter under Coco), but they don't care that Rushia is a mentally ill BPD woman in her mid-30s. I mean, none of the vshojos even speak JP besides Kson…
No. 221548
>>221500>made sure to stay in characterThis was arguably the worse decision she made. If she just chilled out and opened up instead of sticking to a script like a 12yo komaeda roleplay account, she would’ve been more likeable.
In a recent stream, she did a rare anecdote about her life . Instead of saying “my sister did x” she fumbled and tried to fit it into her lore/character in real time “my sister- er uh- my space sister- no my earth sister, from earth…. I went to the toilet- no I mean I did idol duties “. The best part of streams is when the girls share their life, like marine’s sister drove off while picking marine up out of fear - that shit doesn’t fit into the pirate narrative but who cares!
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>>221010The super depressing part of this whole thing was Sana said she wanted to have a life outside of art and to choose her health over everything. But in the end, she chose art and broke her body to wheelchair bound levels. This is such a tragic fucking end overall.
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>>222098vt was having a fucking meltdown over this, I couldn't tell if they were being serious or not about hololive being ruined even though collabs between the stars and the girls have rarely been a thing.
>>222102I hope they do well tbh. I think the surprise of the announcement will attract more people and the fact that they speak English will draw more people into the stars.
Apparently the stars didn't even know they were being announced though, which is weird.
No. 222118
>>222098Unicorn suicide line on the left, thank you.
I can’t wait for the tears of the scrotes once they realise they can’t compete with any other male out there.
No. 222150
>>222098hope the designs are good
>>221010I wish she had done more art streams
No. 222160
>>222102The simple fact that they are English speakers (thus, associated with Hololive) means that they won't fail, they just need to PUT IN THE WORK.
The only reason Sana stayed so far behind is because she made people forget about her due to barely streaming.
No. 222237
>>222098I'm pretty sure Randon is confirmed since he graduated. Pretty happy for that since from what I've watched post-graduation, he seems like a non-coomer. I also wouldn't mind if Manlybadasshero was in the line up but he has a pretty solid gig as himself so that's unlikely.
I heard some meme picks speculating it's Joel from vinesauce and if so, hololive gets all my respect lmao
No. 222437
>>222344Wasn't her old model ghost themed? It was part of her "lore" that she was moving on in the afterlife, iirc.
However, Mysta's old reason for graduating was supposed to be focusing on getting a "real job" because he couldn't afford to be a vtuber any more. Some people definitely stretch the truth.
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Rrat
>1) A Twitch streamer with a relatively high following. Known for competitive games and has competed at EVO among other tournaments multiple times in the past.
>2) An indie music artist who has dipped into multiple genres in the past, including power metal, EDM, rap, and ska. The biggest unknown factor of the group considering the size of his current fanbase.
>3) Well known (100k+ twitter followers) artist. Has worked within the anime and games sphere for over a decade, serves as the bilingual member of the group (and is native Japanese.) Very little streaming experience. Is the papa for a current 3view vtuber.
>4) A Twitch variety streamer who's also known for their singing ability, with multiple covers on YT breaching 40k+ views. Has excellent technical knowledge regarding stream setup, audio, and VR.
No. 222718
>>222717My predictions from left to right
SonicFox
Minsgraph
Porter robinson
Sodapoppin(lmao)
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>>222784COVER gives their vtubers cheap L2Ds, so I am sure the artist didn't get paid enough this time. Sana's artist was FGO one too and his FGO designs looked better than the L2D, not as bad as this guy at least.
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Is this a proposal?!
No. 223251
>>222849He got kneecapped hard by this design which sucks because so far he seems really charming.
NijiEn just announce wave 6 for EN and they all look so good, could Cover not just send the art back and say "fix it" or just find a new artist altogether?
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1549544615635628033?s=20&t=n1BEjyQp10zpUpICHKvazQ No. 223254
>>222849I am sorry Anon to break this to you, but all those designs are horrible.
>>223251I am getting so tired of vtubers…
No. 223285
>>223251Not to play company wars but
>Holo finally drops long awaited male EN project>fugly ass designs, gets made fun of relentlessly>Niji randomly drops new mixed gender gen IMMEDIATELY after>gorgeous designs, hype as fuckHolo really dropped the ball with these designs.
I am worried about NijiEN growing too fast though. I hope they slow down with the gen releases after this, I love NijiJP but I don't want 200 EN members.
No. 223309
>>223285Compared to when Nijisanji was releasing vtubers every month in 2019 the pace NijiEN is going by is fine. I understand the sentiment though.
>>223251Is this NijiEN's first mixed gen?
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>>223251oh look, he suddenly looks infinitely better!
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la abominacion
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The edits on /vt/ are so funny.
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I still can’t believe how popular this guy has gotten on /vt/. Mf somehow turned unicorns into Tempus’ biggest supporters simply by mentioning that he likes bionicles.
https://magnidezmond.carrd.co/ No. 224000
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anyone here follow YFU Baby? Looks like there some drama stirring up right now
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>>224003Yeah for sure. So allegedly she and her manager scammed this guy who wrote lyrics for one of her most popular songs.
Here is the google doc if you're interested in scrolling through all of it. There is plenty of screenshots of discord conversations
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X3XiOo0ZPvus9vrjscWiPXCPEQXWyIxuIy__I4bY248/editAlso just by doing a bit of searching, I've found the pintrest account that was screenshotted in the doc
No. 224007
>>224006forgot to link the pintrest account
https://www.pinterest.ca/nikkimochi/_saved/(sorry, first time posting)
No. 224026
>>224022Altare is a basic zoomer normie american-korean guy. His anime taste is the most basic one too, he sounds like he is going to be the 'gay' one. The handy guy had an amazing debut, I liked it because he handled it well, and was very funny and charismatic, he is one of the IRL twitch YouTubers that got popular this or last year, I think you would probably recognize his voice.
>>224023If you are an obsessed dramafag it would be better for you to visit /trash/ then, newfag.
No. 224032
>>224030Why are you so
triggered and defensive about a single post that said "that's so boring"?
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bruh
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>>224081Nonna, I present you nekozono shin and she’s precious. On the topic of androgynous female vtubers, I get really paranoid when I see an androgynous presenting vtuber only to be disappointed when they turned out to be a tranny. There really needs to be more gnc fem vtubers.
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>ethot?
Literally just an ethot
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I found love. The Orc made it and I am so, so happy. His debut was beyond words. Him and Dezmond made my faith in Hololive come back
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>>224303I really like this vampire guy, he is an incredibly lovely person who seems to have strong 'father figure' vibes and I wish him all the best. He seems to be the only one who actually expressed his interest in holostarsJP other than the girl branch. I think he will make the best chatting streams, at least to me personally. He expresses such kindness from what I can tell. He really reminds me of picrel, an actual 50yo+ man who is just out there, vibing and enjoying his time in hololive. Afaik was a teacher in the past and last year's super chats gave him an opportunity to have a small vacation for the first time in many years. HolostarsJP are awesome, and of all the guys only he and Axel actually give me the 'starsJP' feel.
I've got a question about the orc guy, is it true that he is married and has a kid or two? If yes that makes him extremely cute.
No. 224471
>>224462Samefag. I'm taking it all back.
After careful consideration Vesper has won me over.
he should keep the glasses off though… No. 224720
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No. 224742
>>224741They excuse it because “it’s anime!” or “just because she LOOKS 13 doesn’t mean she isn’t a 100 year old demon!”
Anyone who finds attraction to anime characters is brain rotted.
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>>224745I don't know, anon, I'm not a Vautism fan, but this character looks like a child to me and un this gif it moves like a sped, so I think it's safe to say that the character is childish enough to be considered pedobait.
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>Vtuber fans are seriously braindead
>I'm not a Vautism fan
Go make a vtuber hate thread or something instead of shitting this one up talking about things you don't know anything about.
No. 224782
>>224720>>224761>>224291i think if you're going to criticize vtubers for being loli/ethots, choosing gura who barely streams is poor choice. There are so many vtubers who admit and play into those
problematic elements and more.
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>>224775unironically why are you here
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Desu
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I love Pippa design but I hate her behavior. Her and Lumi’s self deprecating misogyny will come back to bite them in the ass sooner or later.
No. 225147
>>225134I like her non caring about image vibes, but I hate the misogyny. I WILL become a
terf vtuber and tell scrotes to kys on the daily. Please support me, nonnies.
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>Axel is too retarded to do his own taxes
>everyone is worried about him going to jail for tax evasion by accident
>Axel thinks a treasurer is a guy that finds treasure
MY RETARDED DOG CAN'T BE THIS CUTE
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A week has passed since Tempus’ debut and it was definitely the most fun I’ve had watching vtubers.
No. 225692
>>225631There hasn't been a stream yet where I haven't smiled and laughed. They're a really good gen.
Also I know I'm late but how was the newest niji wave? I've only seen people talk about the alien dude
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>no one said anything about Sana's cute graduation concert
Ok.
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>>225196My favorite thing is how his model looks down so much, which makes him look angry, when in reality it's because his posture is utter shit.
Man, they're really growing on me. I'm not the biggest fan of Eng Vtubers because they tend to annoy me a lot (way too focused on becoming twitter memes and clog shit up with "HEY GUYS BOTTOMS AM I RIGHT, HAHA SUSSY L RATIO BOTTOM OR TOP ENERGY MY LITTLE DISCORD KITTENS AMIRITE", but they're all endearing.
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So is this thread just for bitching about awful corpo-chubers and not spreading good ones?
No. 226547
>>226014Different anon, but the actual drama is that his ex gf (who is also an online micro celeb) accused him of being
abusive, a rapist, a cheater, etc. He came out with his own side of the story to defend himself. His ex gf apparently has a history of lying and public meltdowns so I'm more inclined to believe his side of the story. idk where the groomer stuff actually came from other than possibly from something the ex gf said. I'm usually inclined to believe the woman in situations like this, but she seemed like an obsessive BPD-chan, and there are other people unrelated to this situation who have bad stories about her, plus Ike's later gf supported him and said it wasn't true.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srcpbq No. 227021
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idc about shoto, i find his fujobait humor forced and cringe but goddam his fanbase has the best fanartists for some goddamn reason? What about his stale generic ass design make every single chinese ikemen artist go crazy I don’t get it.
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>>227021I just started watching him and don't really care for him either (but he's nice bg noise) but he really does get good art ugh. I think it's his ~*~ASMR voice~*~ that lends to that sexy anime man appeal- sort of similar to how Corpse was some decent fanart despite only half a face shown in his avatar and a vague description of his features.
No. 227061
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>>227021His design might be fairly simple, sure, but he's really cute, his model looks amazing, he has a calming/relaxing voice to listen to, etc. He knows his fanbase and tries his best to appeal to it, I don't think there's much wrong with that.
I know a lot of people find his humor to be annoying but as a fujo I'm not going to say 'No' to getting pandered to, and most chinese fujos are probably like that as well.
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>>227061tbh i hate it when irl men make money off fujoshi culture. idk why. like i feel like it was supposed to be a women only thing where we sexualize men together, i hate it when men make money off of that especially within the comfort of being behind a vtuber model, like when irl dudes like kpop boys try to fujobait they at least must deal with the firsthand embarrassment of it. anyway im going off topic so here is another cute shoto fanart i found.
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It kills me but makes me really happy when I see Magni get fantastic looking fanart. I'm glad all the tempus guys are doing well, especially by holostars standards.
Also Axel and Magni's fight crab stream last night was funny as fuck, I love when people play stupid games like that
No. 227339
>>227120I agree about fujobaiting tbh. At the same time it’s good that men are motivated to finally appeal to true female fantasies be it fujo or yume stuff. But alsooo, I always assume these men get a big fucking head from it all and are inevitably
abusive behind the scene because men can not be responsible having power over women.
No. 227379
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>>227021He's so cringe in general and I really hope this screenshot gets my circulation, say whatever you want about 2D vs 3D porn art of children, it's still fucking weird.
No. 227389
>>227379…this is the reason people have called him a pedo? For liking a fucking drawing? I thought nonas here were mature enough to tell fiction apart from reality but I guess not. It really feels like people hate on him for the stupidest reasons like your pic related.
I do agree with you all calling him cringe though, but I sort of find his cringiness endearing and cute, I guess.
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>>221010Lied about her back, lied about her health, fuck her
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I LOVE MY CUTE DUMB AUSSIE DOGG BF
No. 228240
>>227862At first I was kind of surprised, too, but I could see twitter fawning over her/worrying over her when she mentions doing work (I think she is still a full time artist.) Maybe she wants people to lay off and let her do her job.
I don't think she ever explicitly said "I have to leave because of my back," maybe having the back injury for some time made her realize she values art so much more than vtubing. It's unfortunate, but
valid.
>>224530I dislike Ren based on him dating Wolfychu (an uwutuber.) I normally wouldn't care if a youtuber has a relationship but I just don't like uwutubers kek.
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Nonnas is it true? Why was the video privated?
No. 228392
>>228324>why are you taking vtubing so seriously?>I think because she was in a corporation people are taking it more seriously You answered your own question there. Really, I don't care that much at the end of the day, but like the other anon said, she took that spot away from someone else and then left because she wasn't doing as good as the others, it's just something that leaves a sour aftertaste. She could have easily made her own model and been an indie at any point but she didn't, she jumped into Hololive because she had a friend on the inside and huge twitter/pixiv presence, only to hardly ever stream art. She was also the first ever Hololive girl to actually straight up quit without controversy. Hitomi Chris, Aloe, Coco, and Rushia all left because of extreme controversies that couldn't be blown over. When she announced graduation everyone said "it was because of her injury guys!" she straight up said it wasn't and is continuing on exactly as she was before and will also continue to stream as Namie. It's honestly just a weird situation overall and I came out of it disliking her for continuous poor decisions. Yes I am aware that caring about this in any capacity is cringe, but that's what the thread is for.
No. 228412
>>228374>altare had a gf what? I thought for sure he was gay kek
>Axel doxxed himself, that was the only thing that was removedrest of the stream is still up, it's from axels 4 guys 1 raft stream
No. 228452
>>228324>asking why you’re taking vtubing seriously in a vtuber threadProbably is bait but I’ll bite. I’m upset with namie/Sana because every decision she makes is so fucking selfish with disregard to her teammates. Idk how much you know about idols but tl;dr they typically debut in groups and work together to make it big. Stupid Japanese customs aside, it’s an underdog story, what’s not to like?
In namie’s group, these girls fucking grinded so hard before and after their debuts. Namie streamed just enough to have audition footage to submit and that’s it. I blame management more for this fucking disaster hire decision, but I’m hoping that Irys can officially fill the void in council
No. 228624
>>228572(replying to myself but) If she had stayed in Hololive thru merch selling and anniversaries, y'all would have complained that she was being a leech and a deadweight.
If she did stream at this point, most the people bitching about her leaving wouldn't have even watched the streams, since I doubt most of them were fans to begin with.
It sucks that it turned out like this, but it looks like vtubing wasn't for her whether it was due to her back, other obligations, or a lack of passion. I only watched a few of her streams but she did seem funny and unique to me when I did!
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Join the cult!
No. 229374
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Is Enna trans or does she just have an unfortunate voice?
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>>228572Takane Lui is pretty cool & quite good EN fanbase, since she does both JP and EN chat and interacts with other EN/ID members.
No. 229473
>>229374Her voice is slightly nasal but she sounds like a normal young woman to me.
Are you here from 4chan or something? Every time a vtuber talks in a voice that isn't ultra-high-pitched-baby-uwu like Fauna everyone thinks they're a man.
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I think I'm falling in love with this oddly designed alchemist. He says so many dumb lewd things during his Spore streams. His improv voice acting is so cute.
No. 230861
>>230854kino animation
I love the amount of innuendos he makes, too. He can't go more than 15 seconds without saying something lewd.
No. 230876
>>229957Ugh I hate it.
Not the (human) little girl, she's cute.
But that this little girl is being dragged into this hobby, and now this photo is being passed around on 4chan, and inevitably sexualized.
No. 231052
>>230989I'm a shipper so i enjoy their interactions, I do think they try to push it maybe a bit too much but in my opinion having more content isn't a bad thing. Both of them are flirty and make a lot of sex jokes so it makes sense that they would be the way they are with each other. However, like with any vtuber ship, I think it should be kept to just shipping their characters without getting obsessed over their irl(like extremely parasocial fans do).
>>231030I wouldn't really call it a controversy, it was just another case of a vtuber's fans getting weirdly defensive on their behalf but it could've been a lot worse. I think Shoto did good addressing it before it gets out of control, that's all you can really do to prevent your fanbase from getting too insufferable. I'm pretty sure they'll keep collabing like normal since most of his fans seem to be ok with it/enjoy it.
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I can’t stop watching this old man. Especially his collabs with Magni are so fun and soulful and they reignited my passion for vtubers.
It is also upsetting how men and women stand on different standards even in this hobby, but I don’t care. I will follow their steps and create the content that has “value”, I do not care I won’t be able to stand out from the uwu cutesie crowd, I have love for this and I have the drive to make it real. They showed me that it is not true that vtubers are just cute girlfriends, and I want to keep on believing there is still room for creativity and passion.
No. 231096
>>231086Absolutely yes, this! I have no sexual/romantic attraction to any of Tempus, which turns out to be a great thing because they're just so entertaining! If anything (probably sounds like cope), if they had prettier models it would be a debuff.
The way I would describe Tempus is like watching an older brother play. Except Axel, he's like if you gave your controller to a dog(atill entertaining though!)
No. 231143
>>231072I only watched the power wash simulator stream and if this guy is an 'old man' then the LP'rs I usually watch are dust. Damn zoomers.
Him talking about having a 'bit' for a stream made me think he's influenced by Jerma.
>>230791I like that he knew the lyrics to Escape From the City.
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axel…
No. 231266
>>231189Mysta is low key a guilty pleasure because he’s actually pretty funny sometimes.
Even though he says a lot of questionable stuff. And his fav anime is…..nagatoro…
Vox I feel like might be a misogynist in secret, or at least have some biases.
No. 231283
>>231266I know said mysta is awful but he can be really funny so i just watch some of his clips sometimes kek. But like some anons here have commented before, he does kinda give off former incel vibes. Vox i cannot defend in anyway, what a waste of a good design and voice. I remember him being a lot cuter during debut times. Not even japanese fans like him that much anymore, it really is just the chinese. Usually i would be into men humiliating themselves for attention but vox is trying gain a edge over his cringy RP with pretending to be a alpha male. Still glad for luxiem though since without them we would never have male EN vtubers in the west.
>>231277The nagatoro manga itself is fine, though i do question his normie taste with picking a popular meme fetish manga as his favourite.
No. 231296
>>229459She's probably my favourite design, her and Botan.
Just makes me want to become a
TERF vtuber even more.
No. 231350
>>231344vox felt like he was pushing it too far in a couple of the clips I saw trying to “dominate” melody.
I can excuse his dom persona when it’s with guys as Yaoi and shipper bait(obvi not saying it’s any less uncomfortable) but with women it just feels…. Weird sometimes. At least it did in the clips I saw.
Especially when the talked about him wanting to enslave shoto…eughh.
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>>231266Mysta is my guilty pleasure as well nonna. His design is god tier and he can actually be very funny when he’s not tearing himself apart to pretend he likes cock for the fujobait. His streaming hours also match me so that’s always a plus.
No. 231395
It'd depressing seeing a cute model of a vtuber girl and clicking the stream only to hear the most tryhard attempt to have a cutesy voice like gura or nyanners or some shit, babygirl I promise you don't have to do that
>>231384Speaking of which, remember Artemis? Poor thing could've at least tried to be an interesting streamer
No. 231429
>>231384nijijp side has a few troons too
nijijp mayuzumi is a troon, even worse he is one of those creepy troon males who says he is "lesbian"
I'm so glad he's graduated honestly good riddance
and melissa from nijijp is a genderspecial who also happened to graduate recently
No. 231503
>>231429>nijijp mayuzumi is a troon, even worse he is one of those creepy troon males who says he is "lesbian" I had no fucking idea about this, I didn't believe you until I looked it up myself… this is fucking devastating. At least I found out after he graduated so the memory of Mayu the character will remain clean in my mind. How does this even happen, he's handsome and has a voice that literally millions of people loved, and his avatar even had some gnc traits at times (hair clips and cute accessories and such), and rarely even talked about ero stuff afaik. Is it purely coom or just severe body dysmorphia? Was it not enough to be desirable as a gnc man? Are all tech bros doomed to troon?
At the very least this probably explains why he left Niji after citing "creative differences", unless he talked about it somewhere as Mayu and I was just completely in the dark on this somehow.
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>>231503idk my japanese is pretty bad but he seems to be one of the creepy "I'm totally a lesbian and pls let me into womens spaces uwu" types so he is probably doing it for the coom
he also has tweeted some weird troon related stuff on his personal twitter before, like picrel is him talking about how someone told him it would be possible for him to be a mom but then got sad it wasn't actually possible (someone with better jp please correct me if I'm off lol)
sorry kek I did not mean to ruin him for anyone who liked the character he played, but he just really creeps me out
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>>231414>old man wheezingthat coupled with the fake child voice is horrific. reminds me of the pedo who was behind pipergate and also pretended to be a little girl
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reminder that if you like vtubers you're in the same shitpit as these wastes of life
No. 231546
>>231533this is because of moids being disgusting pedos/sexpests and not specific only to vtubers
people aren't just going to drop whatever hobby/interest they have because some nasty loser scrote is also into it or else there'd be nothing left to enjoy
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>>231533eh i only watch ikemens that fujobait i have nothing in common with those creatures
No. 231588
>>231577Thanks
nonnie, I'll go do some sleuthing.
No. 231679
>>231618People who like uwutubers make me wonder if they've… ever spoken to a female person over the age of 5. Like, name ONE adult woman who speaks like that.
Bonus (negative) points if the uwutuber goes "ohh this is my natural voice… I always got bullied and teased for it uwu…"
No. 231692
>>231677Ren is horrible at streaming, he is too much of a normie to be a vtuber, doesn’t know about the most basic weeb shit and can’t keep a convo alive for life. He also keeps doing that fake dry laugh that annoys the shit out of me. Fail.
Kyo and Aster have potential but there are better streamers out there imo. Maybe once they find their niche they might be good but as of right now I find them mostly mediocre.
Scarle has potential too but it seems like she doesn’t know what to do. Is she gonna become a retarded big booba fanservice girl or a based husbando lover for us girlies? Only time will tell.
Aia is garbage and everyone knows already, girlie cannot even hit 1k ccv sometimes, she is dry as fuck and her art is ass.
I know they have 1 more member but I never checked her out because she never stood out to me in any context
No. 231701
>>231692Praying scarle appeals to girls because few female streamers do.
Every stream ren is in feels awkward.
No. 231753
>>231677I want to like Scarle and Aia but I feel like they haven't quite found their rhythm yet. I get what Aia was going for with the "looks cute but is a delinquent" theme but I like her more when she's being natural. She accidentally punched the mic in a stream recently and her apologizing about it was funny and cute. I don't get why people hate her so much, I'm rooting for her and want to see her improve. Also I want Scarle to do more otome games.
Ren is cringey but I like his music. I haven't seen enough of the others to form a strong opinion but I feel like Kyo fits the current vibe of NijiEN the best out of the whole group and he has good ideas for streams. I plan on going back and watching his full nuzlocke.
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Idk what prompted this but here you go, youtube.
No. 231899
Any indies you gyns enjoying? I know most farmers only watch the corpos but I'm looking for more indies to enjoy.
>>231414LilyHops is a TIM who LARPs as a little girl. He's good at it and he's mostly personal so it doesn't get too degenerate but I can't watch his ASMR streams.
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>>231899i almost only watch indies, got quite a few i'm enjoying
Lex Parté, deep voice lawyer apparent boomer who usually plays horror games without screaming
he sounds a little sussy when he stretches, but he doesn't play into the whole 'flirting with chat' thing, nor does he react to anyone trying to hit on him
No. 231914
>>231899I mainly watch Shxtou(minus his collabs with Vox)
I also watch Porcelain Maid quite a bit, he’s pretty funny.
No. 231926
>>230791im new to the vtuber stuff, i started watching his streams because he has a nice voice. But i must ask, why does his model look like that? When i look at other vtubers the quality is really different. His model looks goofy, like his proportions of his model are very weird. Is it a budget thing or will they ever get an upgrade? Idk how this "industry" works.
>>229957This makes me uncomfortable. I really hate loli characters. Idc that people say its fictional this picture shows that it looks like a kid and doesnt that vtuber have tons of porny fan art that she also encourages? Disgusting
No. 231932
>>231677I really like Maria because everything about her appeals to me, and we share a lot of favorite media like Aikatsu, which I've never seen an eng vtuber talk about, also I have a bit more of a bias because she's talked directly to my messages twice now, though I do agree that the voice gets a bit grating, especially when mixed with her accent.
I don't really like anyone else, tbh that's me with nijisanji as a whole, I don't like Nijisanji, but instead just a couple of vtubers within it. Agreed on Aia though, I want to like her, but she's relying WAY too much on the way her model looks rather than her actual streaming.
Most of the group left a bad mark for me the day they started, when you compare them and Tempus, iluna went straight for le epic twitter memes L + Ratio bottom top sussy baka etc etc instead of just properly introducing themselves and creating a persona for themselves yet still having fun with their followers and each other.
No. 231937
>>231926I think it's because his artist works on FGO and they wanted to preserve his
ugly style but it didn't translate very well to a Vtuber model.
No. 231979
>>231937>>231958Ah im a bit confused now. In my mind these vtubers are very similar to like jpop stars you know. Like a company recruits them and manages them. So i thought that because he was from a big vtube company that they would take care of his 3d model? Like i just assumed all vtubers from the company he's from use the same group of 3d artists so that they can like stay consistent with the style or something.
>the artist worked on fgoI really hate that art style kek. I hope he maybe gets an update on his model then!
No. 231986
>>231979So there are two different people that make the models, the artist who draws the design, and the rigger that animates it. With the big corporations these days, they tend to hire artists that have famous works or big followings moreso than ones who are experienced in making models. This is very clear when it comes to Tempus, all of the artists have character designs that have been successful in games (Fire Emblem, FGO, Touken Ranbu), but none of them were known for vtuber models in particular. Despite all of their artists being well regarded, the Tempus designs got a lot of hate right off the bat for looking wonky. It could be a mix of poor direction from the company, lack of concrit towards the artists, the artists being unfamiliar with how to set up models for the riggers properly, or just misjudgement from everyone and the whole staff loving the designs kek, we don't really know. When it comes to setting up the models to be rigged, almost everything that moves has to be separated onto different layers, so if the artist didn't properly do this, it makes the rigger's job harder to do. Magni's rigger has worked on a lot of other models and none of the others ever looked weird to me, so I'm thinking it was an issue from the artist's end.
tldr they hired artists for popularity rather than vtuber experience, the animators just had to work with what they had.
No. 232027
>>232016I’ve watched him a few times when vtubing, had no clue he treated some of his artists like that though. That’s horrible if true.
Overall his vtubing content is decent, his models are nice but I feel like he has way too many of them, it feels like every month at this point he’s bringing out a new model. As for the content itself it’s not bad, sometimes a bit cringe though.
I watched his collab with mysta and I remember him going on a tangent about how he hates writing comedy yet still does it because it gets the most reception from weebs.
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Namie started using a pngtuber so I guess she’s officially entered her villain arc. Picrel is addressing two things:
1)her fans keep mentioning Sana in her replies
2)people keep calling her design pink korone/pink dog. Especially Chinese arknights fans on weibo
I want to root for her but come the fuck on this is Streisand effect happening in real time. Even ina/nagu knows better and just hides replies. I’m shocked no one is telling Namie to let things go, because all this attention is just feeding the antis.
No. 232056
>>232015His vtubing stuff has changed a lot since collabing with Vox - games haven't maybe changed that much, but he keeps mentioning his Chinese fans and constantly loving on them, also adding some fanservice that wasn't there before. Before Vox, his streams were very different styles - sometimes full of energy and banter, sometimes being calmer and more sophisticated with writing or reading, and sometimes being a downer and falling for every troll and complaint, getting depressed if he doesn't get the stream numbers he wants (he kinda still does this, ngl).
He's also ignoring Lumi (his company's first Vtuber), noticeably he didn't really acknowledge her birthday stream. It might be just that he doesn't need to leech from her anymore now that he has his own, very different fanbase, but their interactions do feel different now. It might be just me reading too much into it, but I feel that he has changed with "fame".
No. 232167
>>232163idk your tastes nona but here are some decent ones also from niji.
shikinagi akira is a fudanshi, yashiro kizuku for typical dude with barely to none fanservice during streams. kanda for gunpla and he's pretty funny, sometimes, leos vincent for quirky old man, nagao kei for quirky old man with lisp. genzuki for music streams.
No. 232189
>>232027it's not that he's mistreating them, but he can afford to pay them more. Also it's not just him that's doing it, this is commonplace for streaming groups. For example offlineTV uses a lot of Filipino artists for their promo art. they're on record in a podcast boasting about how:
-they're helping these people from shittier countries with their strong USD
-they save money because they pay a lot less than artists from japan/america etc.
anyways i've derailed enough, its just my own personal gripe with the scene
No. 232467
dafuq does "incel" even mean anymore
>>232442https://nyfco.org/I think Ike looks cute, and Vox is okay.
Honestly, I don't like caring much about what they look like behind the avatar. That goes against the whole point of being vtubers.
No. 232470
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I MISS UNCLE NOWA
No. 232494
>>232407Axia isn't leaving, just on hiatus. Partly because of what you already stated, like not wanting to be babied and not wanting to see fujo art in his main art tag (women who make NMMN works almost always hide them behind private locked accounts, whether it's BL or Yume. I feel like fujo artists in particular have grown a little too comfortable with posting it publicly ever since Luxiem debuted.), but I would say the major reason would be because of how fucking insane his gachikois and viewers are. Being rude towards the people he would collab with to the point where he would have to apologize off stream, acting bitchy in chat when he didn't act the way they wanted him to (I remember there was a time where he apologized to whoever he was collabing with for being late and they got mad he didn't also apologize to the viewers), or accusing him of cheating based on a dating rumor he had with Hima. Besides his yumejos, he also attracted dramafags who would spam the rumor in unrelated liver's chats.
>>232267I really respect Mysta a lot, especially after he decided to put his foot down the first time when his viewers were harassing Mika. He gained a shit ton of antis because of it, but he never backed down on it unlike that whore Vox who tried (only AFTER people said he was a piece of shit for not defending Reimu, and instead opted to make it seem like everything was her fault). And then a day later couldn't take the heat and basically told his viewers that he loved them parasocially like they do towards him, and that he didn't care if anyone thought it was weird. It was genuinely so fucking pathetic to watch in real time.
No. 232519
>>232494Honestly part of the reason I watch mysta is because he’s the most willing to put down toxicity within the community and set hard boundaries without being nice about it.
The thing with Vox is that, similar to many streamers who play into the bf or gf experience. They will attract and extremely
toxic fan base and then because they like the attention so much, they will put their fans and fame before anything else. The sad part is Vox is so popular that he could easily get away with being stern to his fans with little backlash. Yet he isn’t a lot of times unless it’s smaller stream rules.
Also, remember when voxto shippers went into Ike’s stream and told him to leave Vox alone and harassed him over a ship.
No. 232540
>>232422Seriously I hate moids who bitch about shipping. Boo fucking hoo your anime avatars are being objectifIED? Those likely underaged shippers make you feel unsafe, violated? I swear it must lowkey be their fantasy to be
victimized by a bunch of girls.
While women are constantly one sentence away from scorning a thousand insane males. They have entire community dedicated to cum tributing their face dox.
No. 232592
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>>232563I dont even understand how people enjoy male vtubers while ''respecting'' them. I find all these streamers as modern day court jesters, here to make fools of themselves so we can laugh at them and use them as we wish while they get paid for it.
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>>232602
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No. 232646
>>232519>Also, remember when voxto shippers went into Ike’s stream and told him to leave Vox alone and harassed him over a ship.When did this happen?
>>232575This. I don't get why some of them bitch about shipping so much, I feel like it's fairly harmless since it's just pairing up the fictional characters together.
No. 233007
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Does anyone watch Ashton Marten? I love her theme and whole aesthetics. She’s been playing Hamtaro and is super cute and girly. Also most of her watchers are girls, which I think is really telling.
No. 233200
>>232467Looks good enough for dating:
Magni
Axel
Shoto (too bad he's annoying as fuck)
Uki
Yugo (if they were a lesbian and not a TiF)
Too little provided:
Regis
Luca
Ike
Below average/Not my type/Get a haircut/Lose weight:
Ren
Aster
Kyo
Shu
Oliver
Fulgur
Sonny
Vox
Alban
Mysta
No. 233524
>>233494No I get it, I’m always open to watch new vtubers but what the fuck is
>care to link her? i cant find herHer twitter is the first thing that comes up and then her stream link right below that. I refuse to believe a fellow
nonnie can be this fucking dumb on the internet
No. 233536
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Is Uki actually gay, or is he a fudanshi, or is it just fanservice?
No. 233552
>>233524I was just being nice and doing
Nonnie a favor, my twitter is all about vtubers now and I have no idea if she comes to other people’s twt. Gosh, why do you need to be always so paranoid on someone sharing a new find when we have way worse issues on this board?
I was so happy to share a new find with you but you’re really emotional vampires sometimes…
No. 233808
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>>233266Really shouldn't have posted maggins and axel in cosplay
No. 234000
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nonas, I am down bad for IkeAkuma and that drunk stream fed me so well.
No. 234050
>>234046I feel like most coomer vtubers like Vox, shoto, etc are always more enjoyable when they don’t lean into whatever image their coomer audience gave them. I don’t like Vox still but I’d be lying if I said the guy wasn’t atleast a little funny and entertaining when he isn’t leaning into his uncomfortable hard daddy dom image.
Tbh I don’t like Vox a whole lot, but Ikeakuma as a dynamic is a lot more appealing than any other Vox “ship” l.
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What did she expect? Of course pandering to a cesspit like kiwifarms is going to make people want to avoid you
No. 234136
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>>234092looked her up and lmao one of her most recent tweets
No. 234278
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Am I the only one who is wigged out by this dude? He comes off as a massive misogynist every time women are collabing around him/with him. I get that homos tend to be threatened by women, but I don't understand how he has so many fans. I'll admit I've never seen his personal streams, but every time there's a collab he is so unlikeable towards the girls.
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>>234136Pink rabbit is saying fuck you to every chance of ever being someone.
No. 234387
>>234315>>234285I'm not able to embed the timestamp, but it's here:
https://youtu.be/m8VqdrMF4CM?t=3682At 1:01:25, the way he is just so aggressive about his disdain for Enna the entire time makes me really uncomfortable. There's some other incidents too, but I need to find them.
No. 234435
>>234383All ships have fans that can get a bit extreme and weird, and when a ship is as popular as Voxto is, there are obviously going to be some people that take their shipping a little bit too seriously. It's not only fujos either, parasocial yume fans can arguably be way worse.
As for why they dislike Ikeakuma specifically, I'd say it's because their dynamic is a bit different compared to other Vox ships so it might not appeal to the same shippers. It's like that for me at least, I love Voxto, Fukuma and Foxakuma but Ikeakuma doesn't do much for me. I don't mind seeing cute art of them though.
No. 234465
>>234387tbf he is talking about Enna in this clip and Enna says the word bitch more than anyone in Niji, for Uki and Enna specifically it doesn't feel too weird to me. I do think he overuses the word bitch and got too comfortable with it because "haha sassy gay guy" but other than that his behavior towards the girls usually doesn't bother me, vid rel.
Especially compared to Vox, whose "banter" with Reimu always made me so fucking uncomfortable, then lo and behold he threw her under the bus to comfort his gachikoi fans.
No. 234574
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>>234469>Shoto is my oshiMine too, good taste nona! I think every Shoto ship is a good ship, but I can understand not liking Voxto, some ship dynamics just aren't for everyone. I'm generally not really picky about ships but there are some cases where it just doesn't click with me (like with Ikeakuma).
Foxslayer interactions are definitely always fun, I'm glad we'll get to see them collab later this week before Shoto goes on his vacation break.
>>234570I tend to not go out of my way to look at any past/doxx info, I try to just enjoy the vtuber for the character they're playing. Maybe that's just me though.
No. 234616
>>234574i actually didnt go looking for it my friend brought it to my attention it was really weird
>>234595it kind of had a thread years ago its einshine thread she went in there to whiteknight him after getting exposed for being a pedo
No. 234641
>>234570>>234625Wtf are you talking about, it was proven that the einshine shit was a smear campaign by his menhera ex. At least he stopped doing coomer shit like his ex friend theanimeman, yknow the whole make loli hentai my personality. If anything you should be more concerned about ren zotto for dating wolfychu and her “
problematic” past
No. 234658
>>234641i really doubt its fake considering all the people involved especially since mumei/shachi specifically went into the thread because she knew one of the
victims (not yuki)
but milk on wolfychu please
No. 235281
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>>235269It depends on the vtuber, some of them do have pretty interesting lore and/or play into it a decent amount, plus they matter for writing/reading fanfics (and shipping in general I guess, since you're just shipping the characters). I really enjoy Chronoir's lore, their MVs got me interested in checking out both Kanae and Kuzuha's streams despite the fact that I only really watch EN vtubers most of the time. But most vtubers won't explore their lore that much, some of them even just completely drop it after their debut stream.
No. 235299
>>234720considering it was from the tf2 community, i dont blame him. it was super
toxic and childish back then, and i cant image a 16yo to think rationally
No. 235385
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Shoto complaining about Jelly copying him on his alt.
No. 235386
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>>235385samefagging to add what jelly looks like. apparently he’s been commissioning the same jp artists as shoto LOL.
No. 235389
>>235385Tbh if it was just the design i wouldn't care because he didn't invent tops and hoodies, his design is generic and looks good only because of artists artstyle. Instead of whining for pity on his alt, he might aswell call a person out.
>my art tag>the tag is just ArtOfLolmao
No. 235468
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Can we talk about streams here instead of doxxshit and drama? Maybe share clips and fan arts that we like?
No. 235469
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I love that this thread is having some activity!
I love this art of KSon, but I haven’t watched her for a long time. Is her content any good nowadays?
No. 235470
>>235385no way he posted pics of himself
he looks like an asian gym gay
No. 235518
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>>235385He is literally the definition of generic, i cant stop laughing at this kek
>>235468Cant we have both? Nothing is stopping you or anyone for talking about streams. Im personally interested in both the good and the ugly of vtubing
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What are y’all’s thoughts on shotos new design overall ? I think the outfit is a step up from the purple hoodie ngl.
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>>234046>>234000Im late but i finally watched the stream and wow… that was adorable. Submissive vox is based actually?
>>235684Im reminded again how in all the nijiEN leech streams shoto would be constantly overshadowed by nijis because they have strong personalities.
>>235696Improvement but still obviously generic. The gold chain is was the most offensive thing in his old design for me so im glad its gone at least.
No. 235700
>>235696super mediocre, looks like he googled edgy anime boy and animated that shit, but again we are talking about shoto here, the standards are nonexistent. I bet CN bitches are eating it up
>>235699I loved the stream too, vox is pretty fun when he’s not acting like a pornsick scrote. His synergy with Ike was great
No. 235701
>>235696Looks like your typical spy anime boy or someone from Eternal return.
>inb4 he made that whiny tweet on his alt account to hype up the new designIf i have to be blunt, the only thing that 'carries' his model is the artists face style. That's it.
>>235684He got the following only because he's been lewd and yaoi pandering to people, which is not the biggest market yet on twitch, then he started leeching off every NijisanjiEN because they are easy targets.
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>>235696His purple hoodie was cute, but I do like the new design a lot even if it's pretty simple. I prefer designs like this to overdesigned/complex ones. Also all the toggles and expressions that came with the outfit are fun.
I do wish he kept the hip window that was in one of the design variations though.
No. 235713
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>>235699I love the two of them so much and I am so glad they're finally collabing and giving us more content again.
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>>235953rosemi, mysta, alban and vox are my current favorites . I have also been really into chronoir’s music and love their design tho I have not been keeping up with them as streamers
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>>235953Kanae's design has got to be my favorite, it's so simple and yet so appealing. He's really pretty.
No. 236008
>>236004I’m making plans on becoming on but only as a hobby. I’m fortunate enough to have decent drawing skills so I can just invest in rigging. I don’t really have any grand schemes to be perfectly honest. I just want to draw and chill with friends.
I’m curious about the other nonnies here that are going into/thinking of starting vtuber activities. Any goals in mind?
No. 236014
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>>235953For boys, Kanae and Kuzuha of course, Alban, Kanade Izuru, and all of Luxiem. For girls, all of Obsydia, Millie, Ina, Kson (delinquent model), and Korone. Strong concepts with clear and cute executions are the best to me.
>>236004I want to be a vtuber mama. I'm currently making a model for someone and it's definitely harder than the average drawing, and I also have a lot of anxiety that something will get fucked up along the way, but I hope the commissioner likes the design at least. I've considered making one for myself but I don't think I'd be interesting as a streamer.
No. 236063
>>235953Juniper is best monster girl hands down and deserves so much more respect for doing it herself.
Towa and Aki both have overall great designs and fits.
Selen's brand new fit is my current new fav I think.
Honorable mentions for Chloe Sakamata, Botan and Layna Lazar's design but Layna seems like an insufferable type.
>>236004I was ready to audition to NJ EN. My long term nigel made some very good points, probably didn't want me to be sad if I failed and knowing my pc isn't great. Part of me wonders if I should have anyways.
I definitely can't afford a model and my artfag skills are none so I have toyed with maybe dipping my toes into PNG tubing possibly.
I have so many good character concepts I wish I could art.
>>236008I really just wanted to do it as a hobby at first but I honestly am starting to think this is the future of marketing so might as well find something to market alongside right. I honestly want to make fashionable merch inspired by and featuring vtubers. Obviously UwU market and omocat have done a very base level but personally I think their shit is all so ugly and basic and with NJ boys bringing all the women to the yard there could be a market for better maybe even dare sat fashionable merch.
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>>236004Selen's old design was my favourite, I'm really torn on her new design cuz it's way too coomer now.
No. 236066
>>236064I wasn't a fan of Selen's old design only because it didn't fit her personality in my mind idk
Am bit sad NJ EN is becoming the "boba wars" but at the same time kinda expected from them.
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>>235953I have to say everyone in luxiem all have solid designs and i like how they match with eachother. I used to hate shus design but its really grown on me. Alban has a amazing design as well. Im also in love with the new rosemi and petra designs they got, so damn cute.
>>236004I just know i would get cancelled at some point for saying something offensive and im not sure if i could mentally handle a hate mob
No. 236099
>>236097>I just know i would get cancelled at some point for saying something offensive and im not sure if i could mentally handle a hate mobJust apply for NJ or some unknown agency or be indie. Views are views nonna.
Coco was just weak and had a fall back/probably done with "seiso" hololive and just milked her hate right to the end and into her next life
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/vt/ has been in total chaos for weeks with no sign of slowing down. I feel so bad for Kronii.
No. 236182
>>236177Funny how fast it went down the drain and is run by babinikus now
>>236178>>236180It'll probably be a slower thread because I don't think this one is pretty fast to begin with but I still wouldn't mind dropping a bunch of recourses in there to help get started
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>>236417He’s the straightest of the straights kek only a retard would watch vox and think woah that dude is gay. He’s like the harry styles of the vtubing world.
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>>236454what about it nonna?
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>>236479I think Magni's character design itself is cool as fuck but that design needed to go to literally any other artist
No. 236560
>>236417I 100% think he knows his audience and just does it for them.
>>236441I would bet that Mysta is bi tbh
>>236442Regis gives me serious gay vibes
>>236445I would agree I think Fulgur is just terminally online and faps to weird hentai
>>236479Idk if ugly is fair unless it's a super jank model but I will say I did not enjoy any of the latest NJ EN gen and the actual talents behind them didn't make me like them either. The maybe exception would be the doll girl but I also feel like shes just let me copy Ollie's homework.
>>236518Depends on a lot of things. If he is his usual self on twitter then no probably not. If he is completely radio silent it could hurt it. Honestly as much as he hopes all his minor dramas calm down that would also mean his name not being posted as much.
I am personally not into boy tubers at all and don't think any of my fav talents have ever taken a break that long but I definitely wouldn't lose interest if they were a fav just over a month. Hell I still think about Mana Aloe sometimes and she is never coming back as that char.
>tl;dr his fujos will be counting down the days until his return and he should keep on his twitter shit as that is a part of what people enjoy about NJ EN imo.>>236520Agreed but I also don't think it was right for artists to "redo his design" before he even debuted. I do like that he really leans into the memes though.
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>>236560Im still waiting for niji to make a new male group dream team like luxiem. Iluna was so disappointing. Noctyx is just ok (only really like fulgur and alban).
>>236520Im so glad fanartists draw him really well but it really is weird how everyone in that group had bad model/rigging. I cant help but believe in the tinfoil that holo didnt want the boys to become more popular than the girls so they sabotaged them intentionally
No. 236691
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Tried watching this guys' single streams but he comes off as such a tryhard douche when he's only engaging with his fans. I only like him in collabs, because he acts nice or funny there at least, which is weird because it's usually the opposite.
No. 236724
>>236718>>236720I second more art streams. I would love to see a vtuber that also knows how to make vtuber models, and stream as he works on a new model, I think that would be really cool.
Vtubers that can actually sing and can write actual good songs would also be great kek I would kill for something Chronoir quality in EN vtubing scene.
Last but not least Before i die i want to see at least one stan twitter vtuber. Some twink obsessed with charli xcx or something like that.
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seeing kronii go through a hard time just makes me angry thinking how much preferential treatment sana/namie got compared to the others. it's no secret kronii hates how coomer her design is, meanwhile they allowed sana to get whatever she wanted. If they gave a little of the special treatment to the other girls like they did Sana, maybe council would stream more.
No. 236750
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i love rosemi so much nonnas. she's such a sweet girl and her design is so cool too. i love putting her stream on the background while doing other tasks in my room
No. 236780
>>236660 Based on the clips I’ve seen of Iluna their issue is that most of them seem to be trying to emulate other vtubers in the company rather than be original.
I see this a lot with Ren especially.
The only one that’s caught my interest is kyo. Scarle seems cool but sometimes I think she try’s to hard to appeal to coomers when she doesn’t need to.
Then again this is mainly based on clips.
No. 236800
>>236759kronii’s PL identifies as nb. Also when she got her New Years outfit that covered her chest, she used it for months straight. Otherwise she tries to hide the bottom half of the her OG model as much as possible
>>236791Typically no, Kiara said they were only able to give input for future outfits. But it’s my rrat that Sana had all hands on deck for her design. It can’t be a fucking coincidence they just happened to have pako lined up, the person namie admires and simps for the most(because of nobu). Namie and Pako are IRL friends prior to hololive, which makes the whole situation worse imo. I honestly believe people have to be intentionally naive to not see that Sana got special treatment.
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>>236800>kronii’s PL identifies as nbShe said she is "genderfluid" in ONE (1) comment and used they/they pronouns in one of her profiles. Her reasoning is that "My gender is obvious unless your stupid".
No. 236902
>>236718 wish the agency vtubers weren't all playing the same damn games at once like
>>236720 said. It cycles but sorry I do not care about my youtube feed having 20 different vtubers playing rust. Indies are able to at least mix it up more which is refreshing, I know hololive doesnt allow emulated games so they're trapped in whatevers usually newest which gets stale fast cause then everyones playing it
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so… how do you all feel about the minecraft server fuckup?
No. 237034
>>237033thanks for the tea nonna. i think it’s funny, i have never played mc in my life but i have seen many streams, it’s always hilarious to me how serious people get over the game.
Luca should prooobably say sorry if he haven’t already other than that it’s no biggie, retarded niji fans will probably get annoying about it though
No. 237046
>>237033Why didn't they have staff host the server? This isn't even the first time they've had issues because of members hosting the server. Imagine if the nijiJP world got reset because of something like this, literally hundreds of hours would be gone, they should have been more careful about how it was hosted in the first place.
>>237034>it’s always hilarious to me how serious people get over the game.I've never played mc either and am not super into gaming but it does suck to lose progress on something you've put a lot of time into, even if it's something silly.
No. 237092
>>236004I'm a relatively small (20 viewers) hobby vtuber myself, also applied to a couple of auditions (I'm a mediocre skill ESL though, so it was mostly for fun). Honestly the idea of being affiliated with a corpo looks worse and worse to me, streamers there have little to no control over the design, schedule, everything else. I really love being an indie and stream when I want, what I want and in any outfit I want.
The only two issues are promotion (most people don't even bother to answer my requests to quote the prices) and searching for the decent model/outfit artist.
No. 237254
>>237033>>236979It sucks that they lost all that progress but if this means they wont be playing minecraft anymore im all for it, thank the heavens i hate that game kek
>>237101I have to agree you on that, tempus boys get some good fanart but in the end you can only polish turd so far. Better designs would have attracted more people. Not sure how popular they would be though. Personally im not super into the group yet since personality wise i find them a bit boring at times but i cant tell if its because ive been following luxiem who are all loud and chaotic. Also they get to be ''brotubers'' but their coworkers are idols who have to pander the GF experience to scrotes? Ok.
No. 237271
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>>236800You fucking retard, Hololive always has at least 1 FGO artist in their gen.
No. 237383
>>237101 Nah, Your a fucking delusional. Holostars is Yagoos personal project. He became a manager of stars in the past to micromanage them.
Yagoo literally promotes Tempus's post on Twitter and wears a MaggingTime shirt on CRX. The Tempus has an ugly design because its target audience is different than gaybaiting NijiEn Boys.
Lucien fanbase is a bunch of fujo/yume baiting fanservice and the majority are from China this is why they always stream at North American Morning or Chinese primetime.
Tempus is catered to guys Brotubers and females who are not into fanservice.
Also, most of Luxiem subs are from China where Holopro got kicked out because of the Taiwan issue,
So you just being delusional.
No. 237387
>>237101 Why do you care about subs? Most of their subs are just dead subs,
No one really cares if iLuna has more subs if no one is giving them superchats or watching them live.
Only Scarle is doing fine in Superchat but her 900 CCV is just sad for an Corpo EN talent,
Then there is Aia who only got 800 CCV. which is more pathetic.
ILuna boys superchat is also not good, especially Aster,
currently, no Iluna is average over 3k ccv.
while tempus have good superchats and CCV, especially Vesper who got 43k USD in SC and 4k CCV.
In short, ILuna has more subs but most talents have low superchat except Scarle. also, low CCV after all that pre-debut hype.
Which means Iluna fans are bunch of casuals.
No. 237702
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>>237680>stops getting enough money off his "professionally written (by him)" comics that is about nothing but anime Tesla and Nintendo Switch (and whatever else is popular) human versions which are not even drawn by him>starts going full china pander because of a huge and hungry yumejoshi market in China that is full of rich parasocial womenNoty. The model looks ugly too.
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>>237702This gives me the heebie jeebies. A little fanservice can be nice but I don't like when they lean full force into it. It just feels disingenuous at this point. We all know most of these men were straight as arrows a few months ago. Merryweather creates creepy loli-adjacent female characters like picrel.
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>>237771
lmao sorry if the pic is messed up, I don't feel like crawling the web for art of his creepy characters. But the webtoon is called Winter Moon and the way this character is designed says enough about Merryweather for me.
No. 237782
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Look at the shit Mysta has been posting on his alt. His troon era incoming???
No. 237814
>>237801apparently he used to crossdress on stream kek, also he gives me chronically online vibes he probably faps to weird porn and lurks r/egg_irl
How much time do you think we have left before he comes out as a he/they nonbinary nonnas?
No. 237958
>>237940He just has an alt account
I don’t really consider it embarrassing though, he mainly tweets the same type of stuff he tweets on his main.
He posted a selfie on there, but part of his face is censored.
No. 238132
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Hope its ok I post about this here, I preordered my first hololive plushie (Hakui Koyori's Assistant) and I'm very excited
No. 238150
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>>238076his old model was a shota model so it wouldn’t surprise me kek
No. 238288
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>>237976She is my kamioshi, I adore her. She's good at games, doesn't do fanservice, loves animals, is good at bantering even with strangers and across languages, and even though she's jokingly bantery with people she streams with, she's really nice to her fans and the artists she works with. She was one of the ones leading NijiEN into VRchat content and commissions a lot of people to make cool things for the fans like the lo-fi music videos and open VRchat world. In her PL she mentioned having BPD but I would have never guessed from the way she conducts herself in Niji, she stays out of drama and streamed very consistently and always has a positive attitude, as someone that struggles a lot with my own mental illnesses it makes me happy to see someone working hard against their own illness and making funny, happy videos so consistently.
No. 238311
>>238305Halloween Peppa Pig, any of her Pokemon drawing streams, Trial By Trolley (the birth of NijiCanceled), NijiWWE, and any of her collabs with Pomu, Luca, or Enna.
She's most well known for her Apex stuff because of how good she is at it, though I'm personally not really into Apex so I don't actually watch those full streams, I find her clips/highligts entertaining, would still rec at least checking those out to see her being cool and having fun with her teammates.
No. 238855
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This tweet from Gawr Gura makes me uncomfortable. I want to enjoy and support female vtubers but I'm not a fan of this.
No. 239131
>>239071I recently watched the 2nd Anniversary 360 stream and honestly, Gura was awful. Plenty of cringe, she clearly only cared for shilling merchandise and bait coomer memes (the “UOH”, references to the cum jar). Was constantly being distracted even when her genmates were singing in front of each other.
The other girls were amazing and truly entertaining, I miss watching them as a group of friends and not corporate idols.
On a separate note, the most annoying thing to me is scrotes constantly crying how western is destroying “idol culture” when they are the ones that have no idea what an idol is. I might get spergy, but an idol is someone whose dreams are contagious and want to bring happiness and entertain, parasociality became a thing only in the last 10-ish years with AKB idols. Those imbeciles that think of idols as virtual girlfriends are deluded and shouldn’t be allowed part of the community, I don’t blame the girls for hating their fanbases at all and think less vtubers should support what scrotes want.
No. 239225
>>239131Not trying to be an asshole, but if you really think possessive annoying scrotes are a recent idol thing you must be young or autistic. if anything its gotten MORE welcoming to women despite still being atrocious. I've been an otaku my entire life and I couldn't look anywhere in the early internet for my interests without predatory scrotes being insane about teenage girls. I tricked myself into thinking I didn't like idols when in reality I don't like when a woman's image is tailored for the lowest common denominator. Turns out I enjoy them a lot when they're allowed to act like human beings the way a lot of vtubers do.
So I'm not completely off topic I'm leaving my oshi's 2nd anniversary song! Would not have given this subculture a chance without her, she's dedicated to being an amazing performer above all.
No. 239265
>>239071>Gura is okay but her fanbase is insaneHer likes and retweets are nothing but lewd loli fan arts, and she does stuff like
>>224720. What I dislike is not that she looks like a child, it's that she panders to her cancerous "uohhh cunny ToT" audience.
No. 239269
>>239265Nta but THEORETICALLY, I could get behind someone gaming with a cute kid avatar. Like I've seen some Kobo clips and idk why an adult woman sounds like that, but I'll admit as someone who likes kids (NOT LIKE THAT), her clips of her acting ridiculous and shouting kind of cheer me up. Idk if she does loli/dogwhistle stuff like Gura tho.
I guess my problem with anime culture as a whole is that child characters seem to almost always have a sexual subtext to them. If there's not a sexual subtext to the character, the fans will IMMEDIATELY create one.
Tldr: nothing is safe from pedos. I legit like cute child characters but anime has ruined them.
No. 239272
>>239265Idk what else you expected from Gura when she's been screaming that she is Senzawa even before debut by putting her most popular cover photo on a background art of the debut. She is nothing but a 4chan pandering shitposter who suffers from alcoholism and gets mad whenever anyone even says something about drinking in front of her (eg the new years donation butthurt stream). She also started doing
>>224720this a week or so before holostarEN came out, which was weird. It made me think she would be forced into collabing with them, but i doubt.
>>239225Polka is best girl, one of the few actual lesbians in hololive and a feminist on top of that. I love her for helping others and I hope she will help herself one day. I remember I was watching her previous vtuber getting kicked out of the company, just to later get rescued by Yagoo, one of the few cases like this.
No. 239284
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>>239071Watch Vesper's Microsoft Paint streams. He's not the best at drawing, but his streams are really fun and comfy (not boring "comfy").
No. 239824
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>>239487Yeah, here is the source.
No. 240188
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If Aster hasn't started his transitioning by the end of 2022 I'll be extremely surprised.
No. 240213
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>>240188It's not surprising at all considering his past life as a coomer vtuber. Spoiler for moid nonsense
No. 240454
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the most recent drama about merry was his uninspired designs look similar to the new fire emblem. in the comments people were accusing him of paying his artists low rates.I looked through old tweets and one of his artists was there to defend him. see how the artist specifies "the rate you ask for" vs standard industry rates.
No. 240582
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>>240506I started as being only interested in vtuber drama to actually getting into some vtubers. Still interested in the drama too though. I find vtuber drama so hilarious because these people have one of the easiest jobs out there and a management team helping out as well and still they manage to fuck up somehow.
No. 240635
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found this gem on /vt/ catalog
No. 240642
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>>240635The whole board is in a constant state of bait and falseflagging.
>anti-tempus=Idol (don't you dare bring up sora)>pro-tempus=whore (don't you dare bring up sora) No. 240671
>>240651There was a day she had finished up her stream and asked who she should redirect to and her chat kept saying Tempus (Vesper and Altare) because they were the only ones live and she ignored it to raid IRyS who's stream wasn't going to start until 2-3 hours after her stream ended. When the redirect failed she only linked Mumei and IRyS' stream and no one else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxKUDyg-jBU&t=8841sDuring a member stream she was complaining she wouldn't know how to build a computer from scratch and people kept mentioning asking Vesper and she ignored all those and picked out a comment about Ame of all people
There was another instance where she was talking about wanting to play DnD and the whole chat started telling her that Vesper wants to hold a DnD campaign. Ignored again.
One time one of her members gave her a superchat rainbow with the final one mentioning Vesper (she reads all superchats), she read all of them except that one.
No. 240907
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Still can't believe Pekora actually got a monkey
No. 240918
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>>240907look at those freakishly large eyes
No. 240939
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>>240918It is a trait shared by nocturnal primate
No. 240946
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>>240918she got an irl ogey rat
No. 241028
>>240975nayrt but agreed. I remember a few months back I stumbled on a vtuber drama channel (with an accompanying vtuber model to deliver the gossip) and just going 'does noteworthy drama even happen that often?' I didn't check out any of the videos though, it mostly looked like boring spats and minor twitter beef.
Speaking of, do any of you anons have any favorite pieces of drama? The Lauren JAV one cracks me up whenever I think about it, especially since his dad apparently watches his stream.
No. 241032
>>240506I can understand. I like watching men seethe because a woman spoke to a man who's not them, or so-and-so "only" had 10,000 live viewers or whatever. I watch vtubers but I still like going on /vt/. It's like visiting the circus.
>>240651In a sense I feel bad that the female vtubers have to control their actions so much, but at the same time, they put themselves in this boat. They decided to pursue the "girlfriend experience" thing for money. There's definitely successful female vtubers who made it clear right off the bat that's not their thing. No one cares if Ollie or Calli collab with men because it's in line with their character. Anyone who acts pissed over it was not a fan of them in the first place.
No. 241062
>>241028>The Lauren JAV one cracks me up Same lmfao. Also Calli's "hitting the lean" drama made me laugh so hard I was in tears while it was happening. Half of the reaction being her fans sobbing over "drugs" while the other half made memes had me dying.
Right now my favorite drama is Finana secretly playing offline with her fans. I like Finana but it's interesting to check her nyfco page and see her fans nervously waiting for everything to come crashing down while they all hate on each other. I think it's kinda sweet she wanted to play together with her fans but it's clearly blown up over time into something
toxic.
No. 241065
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>>240983damn ok sorry nonna i'll go kill myself now
No. 241186
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Looks like Luxiem is in trouble again.
No. 241238
>>241186Time to cancel all characters wearing gakuran since they originated in the same area, also all people on the internet wearing lolita because it's inspired by rococo which is from the same time as the French revolution. Also there are literally members of NijiJP like Kaida Haru whose default outfit looks like this. And if we want to get REALLY technical we could actually call this Meiji style, which was before Japan's occupation of Korea and was actually when Japan was being "colonized" by America, checkmate atheists.
Sorry for sperg, I'm personally just a big fan of this era of clothes so seeing what are presumably American Koreaboos cry about some shit they know nothing about.
No. 241243
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Did you nonnies watched yesterday’s Nowa and Kronii stream? I thought it was hilarious, but often times Kronii made me a bit uncomfortable, in a sense I related HARD to her dark humour and it seems like she had lot of shit going on in her past, I am sure she’d make a great irl feminist friend but I still can’t shake off the awkwardness from the collab itself.
I’d rate the stream 8/10.
No. 241339
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>>241186>>241188This is just so dumb and this sort of ''logic'' can be attributed to so many periods of world history that many of modern day outfits take inspiration from or is drawn on fanarts period accurately etc all the time. Funnily enough i do follow korean luxiem fans and i did see most of them did like the outfits so it really isnt all of them who think like this.
>>241238My thoughts exactly.
No. 242073
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Shoto complains about being called a “bottom”, accuses fans as if he wasn’t the one to fuel and encourage the bottom jokes.
God his alt is a gift that keeps giving
No. 242343
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oh no
No. 242432
>>242379>I can kind of understand why all the big vtubers end up hating vtubing.Do you have any examples of this? Genuinely curious.
>>242421>imagine seeing porn of your character every day, i wouldn’t be able to do itI kind of hate how normalized it is for even die-hard fans to draw porn of their favorite Vtuber. A mutual of mine on Twitter got really popular drawing porn of Pekora and he absolutely loves her. Also, see the 'Ina's Back' thing a few weeks ago, she addressed it by saying to at least keep it in her streams, not to go around to other people's streams mentioning it and only bringing it up when appropriate; I'm probably projecting but I got the impression she disliked it but couldn't outright say it since it was so popular with her fans.
No. 242444
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i just found out that aster arcadia used to host sofcore porn events on VR chat and then got banned from YT and twitch kek. he was also a brony.ngl i kinda hate that niji is giving losers like him a platform and a chance to be popular again under a new name
No. 242464
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What happened to Kizuna Ai? She used to be inescapable online, she was the first vtuber to make it big but then she just disappeared
No. 242469
>>242464Brief history as I remember it
>got super popular for being the first real vtuber and coining the term, kept up with youtube trends at the time>got big enough to be on tv, throw concerts, and do a lot of things outside of youtube>so big that the original Ai couldn't keep up and they introduced multiple people to play her>backlash at this decision + the vtuber sphere increasing exponentially and following newer trends cause her to not remain as relevant>go on indefinite hiatus earlier this year after 6 years of almost nonstop work despite decreasing popularityShe is a good entertainer but I think as vtubers grew the novelty kinda wore off and more people were seeking vtubers that fit more niche tastes and in different formats (live 2d and long form streaming with direct audience interaction being huge factors).
No. 242507
>>242343>shotoNot again, im begging can he just fuck off
>>242494I want nothing more.
No. 242603
>>242587Nowa is NOT black
Nowa is NOT married with 4 kids
Nowa is NOT bisexual
Magni is NOT a femboy
Magni is NOT racist
Regis is NOT racist either
Regis is NOT a psychopath
Regis does NOT want to fuck Nowa and/or Magni
Axel does NOT actually like Nodoka, he just uses her to pretend that he has no IRL girlfriend (me)
TAKE YOUR FUCKING MEDICATIONS
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 242677
>>242343Why does Magni keeps collabing with Twitch streamers?
Also, is this the point in tempus where they will go from no homo jokes to juvenile degeneracy? Ngl tho, I'm curious about how much of a mess will be having Shoto on the collab
No. 242714
>>242677this is what holostars, jp or eng, have to do. they dont get the boost like the girls so they /have/ to network and be active. roberu constantly collabs with indies and other corpos. please dont let tribalism get to you, the boys are doing this to build an audience.
though i do agree with you i wish it wasnt shoto, since he's a clout chaser.
No. 243261
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I hate how coomer some of the NijiEN accounts are, especially the male ones. This shit is not funny at all and it's not doing it as Fujo bait, fucking gross
No. 243263
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>>243261Samefagging but why? Why does it have so many likes?
No. 243949
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>>231910welp
wonder if he'll join a corpo
if not i'm gonna be real upset
No. 243973
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I don't understand his chat saying this was hot, it sounds like a tranny. Do zoomer fujos really like this shit? MtF arc when?
No. 244138
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Mysta built a hugeass Bilibili logo right at spawn point in minecraft to appease CN fans, now each time someone streams minecraft it's a commercial for the Niconico copycat, damn I know NijiEN is full of CN clit lickers but to make that an attraction on their minecraft server, whew.
No. 244155
>>244153Bilibili is a shareholder of Nijisanji, but even so it's weird af to pander this hard, maybe it's to celebrate National Day in China (1st Oct)
Aia's structure is right next to it, God forbid she accidentally blows the tv up or something and incur the wrath of rabid CN fans
No. 244520
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this is asters fault
No. 244554
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>>244520Anon you do realize thats the outfit his pubg character wore, right? That being said i think it looks cute.
No. 244977
>>244886The Tempus general is comfy on dead hours because fujos and yumes take over and it basically becomes husbandoposting, that being said is full of mysoginy and trap shit, and it got shitty after the female collabs begun. There's no way in hell I'll join the twitter fans tho.
>>244520Is there any Vtuber that panders to yumes to Vox levels but without the degeneracy?
No. 244989
>>244886Maybe you should stay away from the catalog? I only post on /MANS/ and I've never had any problems.
>>244977>that being said is full of mysoginyAnon, "Greetings from Kazakhstan" jokes are just that, jokes. And they are mostly making fun of how much /vt/ hates m*les.
No. 245048
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>>245037i-impossible…I thought we were friends…
No. 245248
>>244989>Maybe you should stay away from the catalog? I only post on /MANS/ and I've never had any problems.Yeah, maybe I should. They actually have a general for a Vtuber I love, surprisingly quite decent discussion going but still more coomer comments from drive-bys than I'd like.
As an aside I'm just amazed (not in a good way) about the Niji/Holo tribalism they have over there when the talents themselves don't give a shit, but that's moid behavior for you.
No. 245523
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Is this an pickme?
No. 245533
>>245471Yeah
nonny, seems like it.
No. 245572
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>>245558I was just commenting on them not wanting to be surrounded by women with scrote tier interests anon, not the pickme part, relax. But honestly, I think it just comes with the territory of liking vtubers in general.
I haven't watched vtubers in a while, but I forget how weird they can be with their pandering. I guess it's hard to be embarrassed when you can make money and hide your face at the same time.
No. 245585
>>245572Is this the future of corpo vtubing? Bleak
Also, ew a future tranny on thumbnail.
No. 245639
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>>245572I don't like Finana personally. The first thing people even found about her when she debuted was her "kink list", on top of that a lot of stupid tweets that end up making her streams seem hypocritical…
Spoiler for cursed "please give me attention" pandering.
No. 245652
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>>245553Here are some reactions
No. 245688
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pickme or not, nenmen is cringe
No. 245706
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>>245685Chill out, you can always change the subject by posting literally whatever vtuber related thing you want here.
>>245700oh here's the thread
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/33120686 No. 245755
>>245706>>245652I never knew about this, this is so funny. Thanks for the link
>>245688From that screenshot they seem kinda nice and harmless. Though you should really stop with the tribalism already
No. 246765
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>>246288If Regus streams, I am hyped. Simple as.
idk much about Alban, thoh.
No. 247876
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it's finally happening!
No. 248683
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>/cbdct/ general on /vt/ is created
>this thread becomes dead
I see…
No. 250115
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I’m so tired of normie fags sucking her dick and using her to whine about how misogynist Japan/idol culture/cover is for firing her. The reality is she is ticking time bomb and brand risk. Casual fags are ruining idol culture and I hate it.
No. 250128
>>250106Honestly you really have to dig for it but she's the most disliked Niji EN member on there. I think Yugo outranks her with JP audiences tbough, judging by suki-kirai rankings.
Her page is like that because peoole have reappropriated her page into a general Niji discussion oage out of disrespect, most of the comolaints directed at her are about her being an asshole who throws coworkers under the bus for the sake of her own channel's growth (unsuccessful because her actual viewership is disproportionally low compared to her sub count).
No. 250319
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>>250115The Mikeneko model was so damn cute. Her new identity is so… bait-y to me, makes sense since she's part of VShojo now. The design's fairly cute until you see the thong peeking out that so many low-effort designers seem to flock to.
If the rumors are true that it is her, at least.
No. 250660
>>250319I liked the way it looked on a concept art, because this artstyle looks really cute, but the actual vtuber model looks meh imo.
This design really makes me believe Kson wanted Kanata to join VShojo with her, especially after they took Rushia Kson had to move out from Kanata and start living alone / with someone else.
No. 250934
>>250927holy newfaggotory. the vtuber threads were so cancerous and full of 4chan raiders (shitposters, wks and fans of holos who would spam gore in vtuber threads), that including stupid underaged vtubers themselves never learning how to write on an imageboard and ask to be spoonfed. it reached a point where admin and moderators decided to stop vtuber drama threads altogether.
>>250931>nijiEN getting cancellednothing new.
No. 250959
>>250927I would love a vtuber drama thread but it attracts retarded males.
>>250931Kyo is cringe but i really love enna, hope she wont get harassed for it too long
No. 251053
>>250387I don't pay enough attention to know what has and hasn't been debunked, sorry.
>>250642That is absolutely the issue I'm talking about, tho. The short-shorts and whale tail that every vtuber and their mom has slapped onto the design is what makes it feel absolutely bait for lolicons. Rushia pandered to them from the start, sure, but at least her design wasn't so immediately recognized as that.
No. 252575
>>252408i dont blame them, is everyone purposely forgetting the backlash ves/mag got when cover first dropped their models? their personalities really pulled them through that shithole.
my rrat is, since this happened right after axel's bday and his creator make him art, it implies vespers/mag's creators didn't really give a shit and thats why their models looked so offputting.
imo because of their personalities, their models have really grown on me. also ves/mag get the best fanart
No. 253657
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i want uki violeta to fuck off from this company
No. 254030
>>253800you're
valid nonny. im just saying even though it's tasteless, i would rather it come from a gay than a queerbaiter
No. 254225
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>>254052Difference is that it's hot when Vox does it.
No. 254452
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>>254410>>254277>>254303Sorry, dyke friends. Didn't mean to make you question your homosexuality like that.
No. 254469
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Was she finally kicked out from every circle and commissioners? She sounds rather salty
No. 254509
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>>254490Behold! Female gaze ideal body type.
No. 254511
>>254509unironically i think that’s hotter
>>254510ok mom. sorry
No. 255288
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based kyo
No. 256280
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noooooooooooooo
No. 256286
>>256282/vt/ards are just crying it's sexual harassment.
I hope he just called Cover management by their name: retards. That'd be incredibly based.
God I wish he would sekuhara me… No. 256290
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>>256280The most sensible theory is that it's an issue about either perms or management. I know that talking about perms is a inside joke with Tempus but I wouldn't be surprised if he maybe went out of his way to obtain them himself or was harping on management too hard or something. There was also this that gave some insight on the original tweet in Japanese
No. 256512
>>256320It’s just Cover MO. It’s nothing new and it’s very obviously always been about further punishing the talent and “putting them in their place”.
Everytime something happens they do the deaf ears (Mel), do mobbing against a talent (Coco), publish announcements that further worsens the situation (Rushia) or wash their hands (Kronii).
The whole EN branch had always lamented how shit management is and I strongly believe the JP side has lots of issues aswell but japanese people are company cucks, contrary to westerners.
No. 257337
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>>257280Theres been quite a few obvious retarded male posters here and i think if this place was any more active the invasion would be worse. But i do agree with your post, i especially enjoy the freedom of being able to talk about vtubers past lives etc. its the stuff im really interested about. I know this is not the drama board but its fun talking about that too without men taking things way too far like on /vt/
No. 257466
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>>257280I also wish this place was more active, I have so many vtubers I wanna shittalk about kek. for starters i can go off about how disappointing luca’s just dance stream was
No. 257546
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>>257466Was it that bad? I know the stream got privated but i assumed it was because music copyrights.
Speaking of luca, it cracks me up that he got bothered by niji threads on /vt/ shitting on him non stop that he outed himself as a lurker with the ''rent free'' secret twitter message.
No. 257607
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>>257546first of all it seemed like he didn’t check any of the maps beforehand so he didn’t know what to play, so he was just going by what the chat wanted, and they were all kpopfags, and kpop choreos on just dance suck ass so it wasn’t very entertaining. Second, since he didn’t know maps he kept on picking super hard ones and was very breathy. I’m assuming he is out of shape due to the nature of his job but it was very uncomfortable to watch. He also talked about how he felt like throwing up multiple times, not a good thing when you just wanna enjoy the stream. About halfway thru he disconnected his controller and would dance without it so he wouldn’t get scores for whatever reason. Like, what’s the point? You might as well play the maps on youtube if you don’t want to use a controller. And then he went on to guilt trip the chat about feeling nauseous like as if it’s our fault that he is out of shape, didn’t warm up properly and didn’t pick maps beforehand. It was such a mess kek. Rosemi did a much better job with her just dance stream
No. 258743
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I know it's coom but I genuinely love this outfit for Nina.
No. 258755
>>258743her color palette made her stand out from the rest.
i'm kinda disappointed with millie. i like her short hair, at least enna looks cute with it.
No. 258793
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>>258743Ninas and reimus outfits are my favourite! All the outfits turned out really pretty and im happy for them.
>>258775Please do share. Theres so much funny drama among the indies
No. 260425
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i'm going to miss him
No. 260840
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AIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE I MISS UNCLE NOIR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
No. 260978
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Vox is apparently worried about his content not being accesible to newcomers even though he wants to make his fans happy. I think it's funny because it was so easy to make fanservice content without turning into a complete degenerate coomer.
https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma/status/1599408550459031552?t=EeVweOJVF4l0DEvFhfAqwg&s=19 No. 260979
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>>260978Samefag, kek'ing at the ARS rule
No. 261027
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I hope the next wave doesn't disappoint me like the last two did.
No. 261150
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the blonde is an obvious marin kitagawa clone… i think i love the rest, still generic and not as good as luxiem designs but better than iluna for sure
No. 261332
>>260978Lol beta male is right. The only thing more cringe than pandering to coomers is putting yourself in a position of
victim because you hate what you’ve become.
No. 261337
>>261331Probably thought giving them as many accessories and layers as possible would distract from the poorly thought out designs.
They aren’t butt ugly necessarily, but they feel cheap in a way. Especially compared to luxiems designs.
No. 261409
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>>261407>cosplayThat's pathetic.
No. 261466
>>261150I gotta say, as someone who loves gyaru fashion, I'm actually.. pleasantly surprised by her design. Nearly every gyaru vtuber slaps on the tacky whale tail thong and usually a womb tattoo, and while yeah, she has cleavage, she doesn't have her bra showing or anything. The design is pretty cute.
They really do look like they're from a psp vita era visual novel though lmao
No. 261487
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dang I was hoping hex is lex but seems like he is not. disappointing
No. 261583
>>261487naurrr there goes my prediction. if not niji then it’s the next holo wave. trust me i’m a telepath
>>261492fucking kek. it’s the corpse husband effect
No. 261855
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he's finally back
No. 261867
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>>261838He doesnt seem like a bad guy but hes genuinely boring and relies on others around him to be funny. Its such a shame since his model and lore is one of my favourites and he gets good fanart. I really hope this new wave is not gonna flop like iluna. I hated noctyx when they debuted but now like several of their members so im holding out hope.
>>261855Knew they werent going to tell us what happened but id still like to know
No. 262709
>>262704Hex is gonna pull this gamer move
>>260978 in a few months kek
No. 262729
>>262718We have Yugo too, so I'm not that surprised. At least she seems honest about her linguistic ability instead of pissing off multiple nationalities like Yugo does.
I do think it can work, considering how good Tenma from Phase Connect is. It's just that it can swing either way since Yugo seems to struggle with understanding appropriate behavior in general. Really depends on the person.
No. 262783
>>262704zaion is the coolest to me so far, but her loli avatar is unpleasant
doppio is cringe as shit, keyfabing too hard
meloco will probably be nice but at the moment i cant understand her at all so i struggle to understand what kind of person she is
hex's tryhard voice is cringe as shit, his performance reeks "i want to be a vox tier groomer", but his speaking is distracting me so hard from being able to see into his personality so we'll see
kotoka has both my favourite and least favourite design simultaneously, so far… i dont really get a feel of her at all, she feels very generic.
vermillion is the only one aside from zaion i really like, too bad about his extremely generic design. him and doppio are too similar imho.
No. 262885
>>262704I like Zaion's energy and she's not too bad to listen to, but I seriously can't stand gacha streams, especially Genshin, and it seems like she'll be doing a lot of those.
Doppio going hard on his keyfabe is pretty cool to see imo, but it's clear he's going the Vox route considering his history and how he's already planning on doing ASMRs. Not for me.
Meloco seems like a good girl, I find her ESL sort of endearing (as long as I can understand what she's saying).
It was difficult to even sit through Hex's debut, his voice is way too deep and it makes me uncomfortable. Other things like saying he's everyone's 'therapist', shamelessly going for the chinese audience, making his whole personality Vox 2.0 absolutely filter me too.
Kotoka seems pretty sweet, and it seems like her streaming style will be closer to JP (which makes sense), she's my favourite so far.
Ver is the only inoffensive male, he is a bit generic but I'd much rather have that instead of how most EN males end up being (usually either degenerate, obnoxious etc in some way).
In the end I'm most likely going to just stick to watching JP but I'll probably try to catch some of Kotoka's streams. And I wish Vox wasn't the only successful EN male so we could stop getting EN males desperately trying to copy his awful way of ''pandering''.
No. 262956
>>262947>>262949She's a half-Japanese, half-Korean who has spent the most time living in Korea and Thailand IIRC.
She talks up how nice Thailand is a lot and has mentioned disliking the time she spent in Korea because of the social norms (things like consciousness towards seniority, etc). I've seen Koreans complain about her as well, but it's not nearly as bad as how much she gets ragged on by the JP fanbase.
No. 262973
>>262963A lot of her makes me more sad than anything else. Like that one stream where she got too drunk and was crying in Japanese about how it would have been better if she had been born a man.
>>262964She's really rude out of pocket and doesn't have the ability to read the room well. There are also times when she misinforms other EN members on certain things in Japanese that are just crude and not really acceptable. I think a lot of the time it's an issue of her trying to be friendly and joking, but coming across very incorrectly due to lack of communication and social skills, which is made worse by her additionally defaulting to "loud" a lot.
There are other JP livers who are rude and loud and still are very well liked, but Yugo's version of it feels very painful to watch, if that makes sense?
I think it's a result of their existing dislike of her, but I will say there are times when they've come down way too hard on her for stupid things, though. Like she got a lot of hate for negging chocolate companies in her chocolate reviews, kek.
No. 262979
>>262973oh ok so basically she is just socially oblivious and should familiarize herself more with jp culture and general social etiquette, although I guess since her target audience is supposed to be en and not jp it won't make much difference for her.
>>262975kek I know about the mayuzumi kai thing, he was a creepy troon too, seemed like one of the agp transbian ones based on his personal twitter. the troon/genderspecial livers at the company most of the time have a voice that still matches their model despite being genderspecial (ie melissas model looks female and matches her voice, mayzumi was using a male model, etc). and then you have traps (idk if that's the word for it) like mashiro and masaru who make an effort to throw their voice to match their model. I do think on the en side she gets a lot of shit since her voice is obviously female and she doesn't make much of an effort to sound deeper despite larping as male so it's funny the jp strictly hate her due to her personality
No. 262989
>>262979Sort of? She also continuously asserts herself as the fluent speaker in NijiEN which is what invites a lot of the criticism when she can't even manage to accurately translate between EN and JP interactions and actively negs on her coworkers who are fluent (she's mocked Petra's N1 certification before). I don't think even her more oblivious mistakes would get so much hate if she didn't gas herself up as fluent so much.
Mashiro is an interesting one, I'm pretty sure that's actually his real voice based on his past life. I used to be a Kagami Kira fan before I peaked a couple of years ago, and their past lives were both friends, so I saw him often. He's another one who tends to get criticism for things unrelated to gender though as he has a habit of irresponsibility in his professional and personal life.
If JP fans were going to be "transphobic" or whatever, I think Melissa would have been the likely target as she talked about it a lot and went out of her way to alter her later outfit to be more gender neutral. Tweets enforcing that she wasn't a woman were pretty common and she alluded to having top surgery scars as well. But by and large she was left alone because she actually worked hard at the skill she brought to the table and had an agreeable personality… Even more reason why genderspecial hate in JP fans isn't as big an issue as EN fans seem to think it is.
No. 262992
>>262989well it makes sense why she gets hate for doing that, it's rude to neg on someone who worked hard to learn another language. sounds like she is lacking in self-awareness more than anything, and needs to stop hyping up her language abilities so much.
I've heard mashiro talk in a normal male voice before, he's definitely making it sound higher on purpose - sometimes it breaks when he is singing or coughs. and there is some vlog with him in it talking normally iirc - maybe it was one of his nonvtuber bday celebration videos? idk that much about him but he has some crazy stories, and seems like a bit of a menhera. I'm familiar with kira too because I used to be obsessed with holostars kek although I never liked kira that much. grossed me out that he would talk about his dick and posting nudes to 2ch or shit like that.
can't speak for the jp fans but melissa pulling stuff like that would annoy me since it seems like too much mixing of her personal life and views with being a vtuber/entertainer. the outfit change isn't a big deal, moreso the not a woman tweets and top surgery bs. at least yugo, genzuki, and mayuzumi don't bring up their gendershit often on their vtuber accounts if they even do at all (as far as I'm aware although I don't regularly watch them)
No. 263421
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welp shes gone
No. 263490
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>All en livers: today is a tragedy.. i wound that will never heal.. cancelling stream because i’m too busy pretending i cared about yugo
>Based mysta: who’s yugo watch my 1 million stream
No. 263551
>>263541His artist is somebody who is genuinely unwell and as a result bases all of her value on what she perceives as respect for her art. However, her conditions for respect are often extreme.
One of the earlier examples pre-Yugo would be with her first design for Nijisanji, Ibrahim. Following an edit of his model where somebody replaced his earrings with Kenmochi's face (Kenmochi's pointy face is an ongoing joke in Nijisanji), Kemuri posted a comic vagueing about how she used art to cope in a negative household growinf up, and how as a result any "mockery" of her art makes her feels suicidal.
That being who she is, Yugo did not get off to a good start with her artist after misspelling her name in her first stream, and the tone has continued over time. Following a bald edit of Yugo (again, another common joke with Western fans) Kemuri tweeted, "Every time I hold a pen in my hand, I get rigid because of PTSD. Original creators like me are not treated with respect. It’s mentally painful”. On a more recent occassion where Yugo used an incomplete sketched fanart as her PFP, Kemuri posted to her own account, "It saddens me when I see drawings that has no intention of resembling the original. The original designers were obsessed with the number of eyelashes and the color of the eyebrows."
I think people are already aware of Yugo's general issues with insensitivity towards others. That fact hand in hand with her artist being someone who frequently struggles mentally made for a poor situation.
I feel genuinely bad for the woman and what seems to be a continuously strained mental state for her. I'm a little concerned as to how she's going to handle the news, but hopefully Yugo's graduation will reduce the occassions on which she feels insulted and spurred to negative ideation.
No. 263558
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so glad yugo didnt commit anhero because that might've actually been the nail in the coffin for vtuber culture
No. 263560
>>263551This artists sounds like a milky cow. Holy shit imagine threatening suicide for a joke, not even Rushia ever reached this peak, kek.
If you’re working for a brand and something that is known for memes and fanart and get this menhera you need to step back and learn how to handle either your mental health or the work you accept.
Or maybe just get off the internet.
No. 263569
>>263560That's why I really don't understand Niji hiring her again. It just doesn't sound like a relationship in the best interests of either party.
I don't know about milky, though, as she only tweets once every few weeks and actually does do her job/is good at it.
No. 263609
>>263591Is Aster a troon? I quit keeping up with NijiEN after Iluna.
JP still has Genzuki and Ryushen left.
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>>263609No, he’s just a femboy, not sure why other nonna wants him bonked
No. 263649
>>263641With that face…
I'm sorry we doubted you nonna kek. Charging and casting.
No. 263657
I saw some YouTube comments saying that Yugo was terminated because he had a drunk meltdown during a members only stream and said a bunch of unprofessional things.
Could it have been the stream
>>262973 referenced? If that was a recent stream then the timing seems right. Then again I don’t know how often Yugo went on drunken rants during his streams, I only saw him through collabs.
No. 263666
>>263657Yugo had drinking issues in general. It was a frequent experience with her for a while.
Not sure that the drunk being referenced in that anon's post was a member's only stream as I've never been a member but do recall seeing the incident described. Yugo had gotten progressively drunk through some kind of challenge, and it was drunker than she'd ever been on stream before. Sonny had to be pulled in after Yugo repeatedly ignored texts from her manager (iirc) and it took a long time for Sonny to get Yugo to end the stream as well.
Source: Yugo has been a personal cow of mine for a while.
On a different note, I'm glad to see that Finana is doing better as for a long time over the summer it seemed like it would be a race between Finana and Yugo to see who gets terminated first. The whole ongoing ordeal with her and the Valoguard was a kind of milk that could truly only come from the Vtubing scene.
No. 263678
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From Yugo's brother. Don't know why the phrasing made me laugh, kek
No. 263691
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fulgur will be spilling the tea tomorrow can't wait
No. 263714
>>263650>>263641God moids are so disgusting, i didn't even know "strip clubs" were a thing in vrchat but ofcourse they are and are just a bunch of moids with big tiddy animu models.
>>263690Nta but with that logic would you also call a moid who has a loli anime character or some big breasted women as a model a girl? I think its just feeding into there delusion that they are an actual anime boy/girl
>>262973> Like that one stream where she got too drunk and was crying in Japanese about how it would have been better if she had been born a man.God thats just sad, i hope she will just go to therapy and not actually harm herself in anyway
No. 263725
>>263624"just a femboy"
Femboy is a troon pipeline anonita.
No. 263772
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Masae changed her name on twitter and opened a youtube accound, stream scheduled 2 days later