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No. 3749
>>4795Yes, definitely! I've gotten back into it recently as well.
I really like gory/depressing/psychological, so here's a few recs (some are cross-genre):
PSYCH
Lying Mii-kun and Broken Maa-chan
>realistic yandere personality>results of abuseOyasumi Punpun
>realistic romance/tragedy slice of life w main character changing form as his personality changes, starts as a bird doodleAku no Hana
>romance/tragedy slice of life>mentally and emotionally unstable charactersPlant Doll(s)
>like Petshop of horrors, but with doll-girls>good ends & bad endsHORROR
anything by Junji Ito
Another
>more mystery than horrorFranken Fran
>comedy/horror, lots of experiments and goreDoubt
>psych/horror>like Saw, but with rabbit headsLitchi Hikari Club
>boys, uniforms, goreDEPRESSING
Ayu no Monogatari
>slice of life/tragedy>each chapter +1 despair>has several spinoffsKoizora
>romance/tragedy>also watch the film if you're interested in a good cryhere's a great site for horror/psych stuff. →
http://spiraphobia.tumblr.com/recommendations No. 3761
I'm a robot so I'm not too sure If I can post in this thread or if its just sticking to the board itself.
Before I make my suggestions I'll say what I like and dislike, I usually enjoy things that are Seinen with good art, I don't really enjoy the other types of stuff like moe/sol/harems/school settings unless there's a unique twist, that all being said there are a couple popcorn manga I'm a sucker for.
Okay so my suggestions are.
>Alive the Final Evolution
Think of something a little akin to the tv show heroes, tragedy strikes and several people are given powers that change themselves and their personalities, this fellows a kid given powers but is somehow able to not be driven by them, art is decent enough and the story is nice as well if not a bit out there.
>those converse shoes
>Gantz
Actually decent enough art and a nice gradual increase in stakes as the story moves on, simple summary is people that die and revived and take part in a alien/monster hunting game to finally win enough points and escape. very good story besides the ending.
>If you grow attached to characters this may not be for you sad but cool times ahead
>IAMAHERO
Basically a very slow burning zombie manga, it's not like highschool of the dead, it has very good art and great characters. I guess its slowly about how a failed manga artist with no drive in life takes back some control, bonus points it has the use of imageboard posts throughout discussing the downfall of society.
>also qt girl gets infected sees weird shit becomes super strong
>Onari master kurosawa
honestly stick with it, I guess you have to be a certain type of loser but this can strike a chord with you at times and quite feelsy, character growth is very well done and the story a bit silly helps it along.
>bully blonde girl is best girl
>Dungeon Meshi
comfy as fuck, take a manga based in a dungeon and add cooking to it, nice art for food how to make monster meals and a little bit funny at times, comfy.
>makes me hungry
>Moteki
29 yr old losers hits his first of three moteki moments and decides to grasp at it before it disappears, basic character trying to better himself and score a gf, nice art and relateable characters
>ultra heaven
hard to explain, surreal art and nice scifi future setting, swap out drinking bars for psychic drugs and replace everything with VR, worth a look.
can't be assed to type more junk like berserk is amazing art and story, basically a medieval story that slowly turns low fantasy and grimdark
>griffith did nothing wrong
popcorn manga the two KamisamaNoIutoori
try not to get attached to the characters
I can rec some anime and films too if needed or any interest , junk like ghibli or mindgame for example
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>>65903
I just started reading JoJo after binge-watching the anime last week. Not up to part 8 yet, but Jesus Christ, this shit is so good.
No. 3766
>>65903
I used to be very into JJBA but I've taken a break. I just prefer to read the series in large sittings instead of a single chapter every month, especially because of the fights being multi-chapter.
>>65755
I'm not the other anon but I've read some historical manga.
>romance/shoujo
Rose of Versailles, Red River, From Eroica With Love, Emma
Poe no Ichizoku, Kaze to Ki no Uta, Heart of Thomas, Orpheus no Mado
>not really romance-y but very history
Innocent (love this one, it's like a super OTT seinen version of RoV!), Vinland Saga, Historie, Wolfsmund, Kingdom, Hishintan, Innocents Shounen Juujigun, Shoukoku no Altair, Souin Gyokusai seyo!/Onwards to Our Noble Deaths
No. 3767
>>65907same anon again
I forgot to add this, I use a site called mangasee for reading my manga its similar to mangafox but it allows you to view one chapter at a time rather than a single page, the only problem is that it may not have some mangas.
also another manga called
>OtoyomegatariMaybe it's the shota inside of me but I really enjoyed this as well, the art is very beautiful and the story isn't too outlandish, mostly just a older woman meeting her husband to be and finding out hes younger than her.
the art is worth a look at the very least
remember to use mangasee
http://mangasee.co/manga/?series=Otoyomegatari&chapter=1&index=1 No. 3769
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>>65914>>65932If you like Gantz you should try Oku's newest series Inuyashiki. pic related
It's still ongoing but I really like it, more so than Gantz tbh.
http://myanimelist.net/manga/64465/Inuyashiki
>>65907We have similar tastes so you'd probably like it too, if you haven't read it already. The main antagonist fucks with people on image boards in a couple scenes lol.
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>>66166
Yeah, I've been holding it off for a while but caught up today. Feels are too strong man ;_;
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Hey guys! >>4816 here, happy to see this thread gaining more posts. I've been trying out lots of different manga, here's some I can suggest from the horror genre.
Lighter Stuff (little to no violence; focus on characters' relationships):
Online: The Comic (ongoing)
>female-oriented; josei/shoujo
>qt boys helping MC in a real survival horror PSP game
>heroine suffers from some amnesia
Gakkou Gurashi! (ongoing)
>survival; slice of life
>qt girls having qt friendships but also enduring mind-shattering moments and psychological suffering
>zombies
Darker (prominent violence, gore):
Dead Tube (ongoing)
>corrupted niconico douga-like website hosts competitions for vids with the most views
>naturally leads to some really fucked up compositions
Dolls Fall (ongoing)
>qt orphan girls being rekt by supernatural beings and the 'matrons' of the academy
>made by the same author as Corpse Party
Harem End (completed; short)
>group of actresses play harem archetypes (loli, tsundere, ojousama, etc)
>they respond to women's requests to punish specific male targets
Fukushuu Kyoushitsu (ongoing)
>bullied girl takes revenge on every single one of her classmates
I guess that's all I'll list for now. I'll check out some of the suggestions in this thread too!
Side note: does anyone have an anime-planet account or hummingbird or something? While I like this thread, I wonder if there's a better way to swap and track others' recommendations and reading lists. I'm always hungry for new manga. I probably scan for new ones at least once a day.
No. 3777
>>66196>>66194No problem! Here's my anime-planet for anyone who has one, and/or would like to track shit I'm doing (kudos to you, lol.)
http://www.anime-planet.com/users/koroetteI made a MyAnimeList before, but couldn't keep up with it…maybe I'll make another sometime.
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>>66175
Thanks for the detailed recommendations. I just picked up Online: The Comic, Dead Tube, Harem End, and Fukushuu Kyoushitsu.
I use MyAnimeList to keep track of the manga I read. I don't know if Anime-Planet is used more often than MAL for manga, but MAL is popular enough and most people seem to have one.
Side question: Does anyone else go the extra mile to make reading manga extra special? I either put on suiting music or put the kettle on for tea. I like when the mood is set.
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She is too fucking cute.
No. 3783
>>3745I'd recommend reading
Shuzo Oshimi - Happiness, Flowers of Evil
Sui Ishida - Tokyo Ghoul
Junji Ito - Black Paradox
Kuraishi, Yuu - Apocalypse no toride
Masaya Hokazono - Freak Island (Very gory)
Saku Nonomura - Otonari Complex
I tried to get into inio asano work, can't find myself enjoying, it had to put down goodnight punpun since it made me very depressed.
No. 3785
>>3783>Sui Ishida - Tokyo GhoulIs the manga better than the anime?
I thought the first season started very strong, but as it went on it got harder for me to keep up with the characters, ignore the plot holes, and tire through fight scenes that I thought went on for way too long.
It felt very tasking.
No. 3786
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golden kamui is bestmango
No. 3788
>>3787YMMV I dropped it for the same reason anon
>>3785 dropped the anime.
I found Happiness by Oshimi Shuzu straight after and it was everything I wanted Tokyo Ghoul to be
except for the bullshit timeskip so keep in mind I am not a fan of shonen bs
No. 3789
>>3786Have you noticed how much delicious fanservice in this series there is?
The sea otter soup anime episode aired last week and I was so giddy lmao.
The mangaka draws such perfect, muscular, hunky men. Complete with all the scaring and unique characteristics to each character.
Ugh I love Sugimoto.
(The plot and the Ainu culture are also fantastic of course, but I can't help but notice the comedic fanservice bits).
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>>3785For the most part if a manga was adapted into an anime, the original manga will be better. There are some exceptions but a lot of recent anime have pacing and animation issues.
My two favorite manga series, Dorohedoro and 7seeds, are getting anime and I am worried about the quality of the shows. 7seeds in particular has a really bad studio on it so people on 2ch were already making jokes about it, like saying “oh with gonzo, it’s dead on arrival” and “haha good luck gonzo”
No. 3793
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>>3786It's better, at least the first part.
If cute boys suffering is your thing you'll love it. No. 3794
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>>3790I read about the 7seeds anime announcement on twitter, but that's what it's going to look like? I'm disappointed.
But between that, Dorohedoro and Fruits Basket, it's nice to see older manga getting anime adaptations. I really want more shojo manga to have reboots like Fruits Basket will, because I was sick of seeing things like Otomen or Switch Girls getting a drama adaptation, or things like Peach Girl or Lovely Complex getting half-assed anime that weren't adapting the entire manga just like Fruits Basket. I also wish Gunnm could get a new anime instead of the shitty movie where Gally looks like a humanoid bug.
No. 3797
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trail of blood from shunzo oshimi is gripping and perfect for farmers who are into psycopathic familial relationships. i wish i had it all right now to read!
the way the expressions and drawing styles change precisely is so awesome to look at..
No. 3798
>>3796Shoujo manga are sometimes adapted into live action instead of anime.
Too bad about Cat Street, I really want to see an anime for that but it got a live action drama instead.
No. 3799
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>>3790nooo why does this look so shitty when the manga is awesome..
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My absolute favorite is the Bride's Story
Genre:comedy, romance, Seinen, slice of life, drama, history
The story has more than one protagonist and Brides. The main bride of the manga is Amir and we start with her story. They all generally take place in Central Asia in the 19th.
I absolutely love the atmosphere of this manga and the attention to details and the brilliant designs. Reminds me of my past and my culture (we share similar cultures after all) and the setting feels so nostalgic to my childhood. The story and relationships are so captivating and made me root for all of them. It is a heartwarming manga and I would definitely recommend it to: history enthusiasts, romance lovers, and those who enjoy the fine arts and a good story as well.
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Anyone liked Otome Youkai Zakuro?
> It's the Meiji Era in a slightly alternate Japan, and the Gregorian calendar has just come into effect. The fox-eared girls living in the youkai part of town are about to be put to work together with a delegation of young human soldiers, to promote interracial understanding. So what will happen when Zakuro's strong personality collides with human sensibilities?
Action Comedy Drama Fantasy Historical Romance Seinen Supernatural
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My dear anons, I was reading this manga called The Blue Eyes Of Horus and I just fell in love with the captivating story. Unfortunately, only 12 chapters are translated and I feel like dying because I want to read more.
So I'm asking for recommendations of a similar manga: historical drama with a female lead, set in anywhere in the world except for Japan and Korea (already had enough ) full of drama and suspense (doesn't have to include romance, just want something exciting)
I have already read most of the popular historical manga, I just want something new like this one.
No. 3810
>>3809Anatolia Story comes to mind right away. But it's such a classic that I think you probably read it already.
Scarlet Palace is about China.
Otoyomegatari
>>3803 and Emma are both really good historical shoujos but they're not action packed. They might also be too socially aware and not exactly a light wish-fulfillment read.
Have you read Claymore? It's a fantasy shounen but I still like it.
No. 3813
>>3810I haven't read Scarlet Palace so I will definitely check it out!
>>3812No problem, I really hope so. It hasn't been updated for 3 months
No. 3814
>>3809I would recommend Orpheus no Mado by Riyoko Ikeda - it's set in early 20th century Germany and revolutionary Russia - but scanlations are slow as fuck.
Savage Garden by Hyeon-Sook Lee in 19th century England is okay too.
Madame Petit is really nice, has a bit of a retro vibe to it. Main heroine is Japanese, but it's set in 1920s Europe.
If you're okay with Chinese stories too, I would recommend Chang Ge Xing, which is abslutely great, but it's been on hiatus for some time now because of some beef between the author and publisher.
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I wish I could talk to my friends about Yankee Boy and Otaku Girl without them giving me the side eyes lol. I swear it's really fucking hilarious and doesn't have an actual pedophilia. The little boy's crush on the lady is so adorable and funny. Hopefully the author isn't one of those fucked up mangakas that try to write a romance with a literal child (I shudder everytime I remember Usagi Drops)
>>3814Thank you for the recommendations anon, I read Madame Petit for the past 2 days and really enjoyed it. Reminded me of Waltz Wa Shiroi Dress De, but I liked the characters in Madame Petit better.
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>>3817I love that manga, it's so funny, but I'm not optimistic about the ending. Too many shotacon jokes, and an actually adult man shotcon character, for me to believe the author won't go with pedo ending.
On a similar manga, I've been reading Watashi no Shounen and while so far it's great, with good characters, the adult woman actually acting like a grown up about the boy crush on her, I'm super worried it WILL end up the Usagi Drop way. Like damn, even if they became a couple only after he turns 18 it's just creepy to have parental figures turning into romance/unintentional grooming.
Let's hope for the best anon.
No. 3821
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Can anyone recommend some top tier Josei? I'm kind of graduating from shoujo tropes but they'll always have a speshul place in my heart.
Right now I'm reading They Say I Was Born a King's Daughter. It's pretty good so far and makes you wonder wtf is happening and wtf is going to happen. The story isn't typical which is such a breath of fresh air.
No. 3822
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>>3821Haru No Noroi is a really good josei manga and pretty short,too.
The main character is dating her dead younger sister's fiance to try to sort out her unrequited love she had for her sister.
Really heavy psychological plot without being too dramatic imo.
Also Cheese in the Trap is totally different from any josei I've read.
It's realistic and relatable and even has suspense/thriller themes when the mc has to outsmart a persistent and unstable stalker
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>>3821Alright this is gonna take a while, please be patient with me (sorry if there are so many spelling mistakes too)
1- "Shall We Have Dinner Tonight"
I know, it's a webtoon not a manga, but you seriously have to give it a try if you love Josei, food, and romance! It's about two strangers with many past broken relationships, bonding over food. They talk about their past relationships, how they ended, and what aspects of their personality that affected their relationships negatively.
I honestly don't read Josei a lot because it bores me, but this one made me so engaged with the story and the relationship developments of the 2 main characters.
2- "Mizutama Puzzle"
Short and sweet romantic story of an older female and younger male. The male works at a restuarant and faces so much pressure from his boss. Same with the female who is an office lady that always gets yelled at by her boss. They always see each other at the train but never talk, well, untill something happens.
I really like this story because of how short and straight forward it is. Great for a light read and when you need your fix of romance.
3-"Evyione: Ocean Fantasy"
This is shoujo not a josei, but I thought it reminded of so many josei manga I read in the past. A merman (who is the king of some land in the sea) falls in love with a human princess. Instead of bringing the princess down to live with him in the sea kingdom as a corpse, he goes to the human world giving up his form and powers. In exchange, he becomes mute and cannot talk to any human. It is a retale of the "Little Mermaid" but much darker, and with gender swap. I wouldn't recommend this to anyone who is sensitive to sexual topics such as rape and the like. This is not a light story at all, but I love the element of the fairy tale in it.
4- "Her Shim-Cheong"
Yeah this is a yuri josei, and while I don't read yuri at all, this one caught my attention. It's a story about a begger and the wife of a powerful minister, and the relationship they both have.
This story grabbed my attention for the inside politics of old Korea. I like plots centered around politics and who takes the power in the royal palace. Also the relationship between the girls is kinda intriguing. I think even if you are not a lesbian or yuri lover, you would still enjoy the story.
5- "Gokusen"
I left this for last because I honestly don't remember anything from it? I have read it years ago but I remember liking it (maybe). I know that this a cult classic, so I thought I would put it here, just in case you might like it.
No. 3828
>>3821Is it ok to just list the top classics that everyone loves?
These are all so famous and well known in the manga community but in case you're new, here we go:
7 Seeds
Kakukaku Shikajika
Ashita no Ou-sama
Hyakki Yakoushou
Nodame Cantabile
Kuragehime
Chihaya Furu
Kimi wa Pet
Bokura no Kiseki
Paradise Kiss
Honey & Clover
Paradise Kiss is my personal favorite among these. 7 seeds was also mentioned earlier in the thread.
No. 3830
>>3829New to josei since she specifically said she was just graduating from shoujo. She also said "top tier" instead of "underrated" or "not well known".
I mean these are probably too obvious but you never know!
No. 3831
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I just got into Killing Stalking, a Korean manga (Manhwa). It's about this guy who is obsessed with a seemingly all-around perfect good looking guy, and he decides to break into his house one day. To the stalker's dismay, he founds out his crush is a serial killer and is kidnapped by his crush. The story follows what happens during throughout their dynamic and the stalker develops Stockholm syndrome.
At first I was so engaged with the comic because of its smart use of psychological themes, but then I got a bit disappointed with how it became a bit too much of Yaoi fulfillment. But maybe I'm interpreting the sex scenes wrong. If any anons have read this, would love to know what you guys think or if you guys have any other recommendations (this was my introduction to BL/Yaoi/horror thriller and I really like it so far).
No. 3833
>>3832yeah I kind of just read it as smut now, so I guess it has that going for it.
to give it some credit, the woman hating in the comic is intentional from the mommy issues and what not
No. 3839
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Sorry for blogpost but I need to vent a bit.
I'm really starting to dislike the webtoon "I Love Yoo", I had such high hopes for it when it first started. I liked the female main character for being an "unconventional" protagonist. However, after 88 chapters, there's 0 character development, no relationships development or some sort of romance (seriously why is this labeled as romance???) It feels like a self insert harem fest at this point.
I hate how the author completely forgets ALL the other female characters too, and only show them as a plot device to serve in building Shin-Ae's bland character. I also don't get how every guy in this comic wants to fuck the main female character so baaad when she doesn't have: a character to begin with, the looks, intelligence at least??? Money? Power? Anything?
We are not given any reason as to why every handsome rich guy want to be with and around her. There's no chemistry between the characters at all for me to ship them at least.
God!! I'm genuinely frustrated because I really liked the story and the art at the beginning. Seeing it go down the harem hell makes me sad for the lost potentials.
No. 3841
>>3839Good artists are not often good writers. They're two different skills that have nothing to do with each other. Too bad, there should really be more collaboration.
That's why the best mangas are often adaptations.
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I only discovered this today but it's weirdly enough funny despite the gangster gap moe gag
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>>3846Gokushufudou: The Way of the House Husband
No. 3849
>>3822I really liked Haru No Noroi, so thank you for the rec! It reminded me of some of Banana Yoshimoto's short stories, in case you're interested in stories with a similar vibe.
Are there any more manga like this, with that kind of psychological, sincere feeling? I feel like most times someone suggests a psychological, death-related manga, it's usually macabre, but I liked the atmosphere of this one - it's really "genuine," idk another way to put it, with an optimistic ending, I'd say. It's down-to-earth, I guess.
On another note, are there more manga with doting, lovey-dovey guys? I was looking at shoujo but I realized I feel too old for most of its tropes now, and most of the guys are jerks or just aloof…
No. 3850
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Anyone read Sensei no Shiroi Uso
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=102313 I like the drama but get a strong femcel vibe from it.
> Popular women are slutty manipulators> Popular men are rapists> Popular women have bad sex lives because their husbands secretly desire other women No. 3851
>>3850Just read the last three tl chapters out of curiosity and it seems pretty cool actually
>rapist has pregnant wife>decides to kill himself because rapist scum>mother of his child stops his suicide attempt and orders him to stay alive and take responsibility for being a fucker>turns himself for being a rapist after calling a taxi for the in-labor mother of his childI have no idea how this development came to be but the ex-popular-girl wife seems like a badass mother and it looks like justice will be served so I'm not so sure it's a female incel story.
No. 3855
>>3850I read it but I really hate this manga.
>ch8>rape guy goes drinking>goes and follows a girl into the bathroom>other people only say "haha good ol rape guy, just can't help raping those virgins" and do nothing>rapes girl>girl is now in love with himI hate every single one of the characters in that manga.
No. 3857
>>3855The other people didn't know he was a rapist.
Did you read just up to there or beyond? Reviews say it gets better but…
>>3850Also forgot to mention fat girl gets bf stolen by stacey.
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>>3857>The other people didn't know he was a rapist.Didn't they though? I thought this page implied they knew what was going on, plus his friend should have known he was married.
I still read it, am up to date with all the chapters and it is still pretty terrible.
No. 3860
>>3850author married Inio Asano, bet they are a fun couple to hang out with
Glad I didn't read it, I was kinda curious but I haven't had good experiences with Inio Asano langa so when I found out this manga was made by his wife I skipped it
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>>3858His male friend was confused about how he got her, he didn't know he assaulted her.
> I still read it, am up to date with all the chapters and it is still pretty terrible.Aww OK, I'm going to lower my expectations then as I continue.
No. 3864
>>3862Asano himself said in an interview that he made Punpun only to create shock and to be as edgy as possible.
I'd say it can be very interesting artistically and has some fun plots, it's low key misogynistic even though the female mangaka character is pretty cool from what I remember, but then again I read it when I was an edgy teen.
For his works I think his latest is actually the most interesting: Dead Demons Destruction
It's a sol/syfy where he actually draws the darn backgrounds for once instead of using filtered photos and most of the characters are female.
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>>3862Interested what other anons have to say about this, my memory of Punpun is fuzzy but I remember there is some
physical/sexual abuse towards female characters.
I like Solanin better, it's more palatable than Punpun imo
Punpun is only more fun because of the imagery but it's a rough read.
No. 3866
>>3862There are depictions of violence against women and most male characters have some awful dealings with female characters. Although I think it is obvious these men are meant to be shitty regardless (and so are many of the women).
As for Asano, there is one of his works (Umibe no Onnanoko) that features excessive scenes of young teens having sex. Take that as you will.
Still personally love Punpun and some of his other manga though.
No. 3867
>>3864>Asano himself said in an interview that he made Punpun only to create shock and to be as edgy as possible.Not that anon but I had no idea!
I looked up another interview and Asano also mentions that Punpun is supposed to be a dirtbag:
Punpun is too serious, therefore has a hard time communicating. He is also awkward and kind of annoying."Goodnight Punpun" is about Punpun meeting various people through the series and how he starts to understand his “true self.” Punpun is his own individual, so there is no need for the reader to always agree with or understand Punpun's thoughts and actions. I myself do not believe Punpun is a “good person” as typically defined by society, but by creating a main character that, from an entertainment standpoint, would never be cast as a main character, I wanted to show readers that people like him exist. No. 3868
>>3858OK read a bit more, up to chapter 33 now. Thanks for not spoiling me. Apparently the female acquaintance knew. I'm so confused, is the girl there Ayaka? Her best friend just let her get raped?
Reading the other posts about PunPun this definitely sounds like something written by someone that would be his wife. It's a similar edgy wackiness. (though I only read about 10 chapters of punpun before dropping it out of boredom though I really liked Solain) The characters aren't convincing, they all have some sort of extreme drama / mental issue. The self insert main character is a pedo. Why?
However the pacing is really fast and things happen quickly and it's engaging. It's entertaining for that reason though it's as you said, all the characters are written in the most edgy way possible and I hate them all.
No. 3872
>>3868Finished c48 latest scans.
>>3851I can finally look at this. While she did look cool at the moment she still stood by the rapist, the whole thing is more convoluted than that.
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The drama got so tiresome at the end. The men have way too high EQ. I've never seen men that introspective and aware of people's feelings. The femcel feel stopped midway but then restarted after the pedo arc with the student, especially with misakana. It really feels like a revenge on the popular kids type of story.
That being said it was still an enjoyable soap and I half heartedly recommend it.
No. 3873
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I rec Otto no chimpo ga hairanai.
As the title says the protagonist is unable to get penetrated by her bf because of some sexual trauma she had earlier in her life. It's a josei with explicit sex scenes but they are all in good taste so far and it has a very interesting indie vibe.
https://mangarock.com/manga/mrs-serie-100341255 No. 3880
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I've been really craving to read something like Mizukami's manga. Really loved Sengoku Youko after the protagonist swap. I like the simple but still unique stories and characters.
No. 3881
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Just started reading Somali to Mori no Kamisama and:
>World full of non-humans, where nearly all humans got hunted down
>A child gets found by a golem
>Decides to go search for child's parents
>Golem is at the end of it's life, having 1-2years left to live
Pretty good world concept and background drawings. Currently at the end of Vol.1, but will keep reading for sure.
No. 3887
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Korean webtoons are basically manga too right?
I just finished Que Sera:
https://mangakakalot.com/manga/que_sera_sera
> Single-motherhood, 30s characters, romance, drama.While reading it it felt really generic but after finishing it I'm hit by the usual sadness of having to leave these fictional people. Really liked it.
No. 3889
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Since I didn't meant to bump the thread without content I want to ask: did anyone else have issues with Otoyomegatari (Bride's Story)?
It seemed so intriguing at first and as a whole it s better than not but Amir and Karluk are so boring. The start is pretty slow and I read it mostly for the educational content, its interesting to see a culture so rarely depicted get some spotlight. Every other bride throughout the story (like Pariya or the twins) is interesting but Amir and Karluk drag the story down.
No. 3890
>>3889Thanks for reminding me that this manga exists. I'm like a dozen chapters behind but i agree that the main couple is the least exciting one.
I don't remember then as boring though, it's just that their story seemed like a bit more complex than the other couples. It was less about the plot twists and bubbly feelings and more about their personal journey and self growth and stuff. Especially for the boy.
I really like this author.
No. 3892
>>3890If I had to detail why I didn't like Amir and Karluk as much it mainly comes down to Amir. She doesn't really have any flaws. In the context of her environment she might be a bit odd but to the modern day reader all of her oddities are positive attributes. And one of the more salient points of conflict, the age gap between her and Karluk ends up amounting to nothing when she ends up falling for him romantically. Karluk definitely develops and is forced to grow up and that is interesting but the reasoning for their odd arrangement is never really explained and Amir never really seems to have a problem with it outside of a few failed attempts to seduce him.
Not to say I dislike it, but Amir and Karluk just aren't my favorites compared to the other Brides.
No. 3893
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I started re-reading Yowamushi Pedal recently and I still love this series. I've only read a bit past the end of the first interhigh and I hate that it kind of degrades into shounen battle scribbles but the first 27 volumes are a great standalone sports story.
One thing I also really like about it is that the protag is very shy and awkward but all the characters are friendly to him, even the villains.
I wasn't sure if it was a self insertion thing but the mangaka originally made the MC a girl and I'm guessing carried the personality over when the editor told him it had to be a boy MC>>3862 To me a lot of his manga have the same buildup and execution, so I became kind of disinterested after reading a few. I read his interview after Punpun and it felt like he was admitting that he was tired of writing the same stories over and over, too. Haven't read Dedede but at least it sounds different.
Also some of his stories are pretty gross with how kids are treated by adults and family figures.
No. 20110
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Reading Initial D. I love Takumi, although I kind of wish he'd lose a race for once.
No. 40823
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I am in fucking pain because I fell in love with the Amane Gymnasium manga by Usumaru Furuya (one of my fave manga authors ever) and only one chapter got scanlated.
If it gets published or fantranslated, I would highly recommend it to farmers, especially if they are dollfags! It's about a young women who works shitty office job just to be able to live the BJD maker life. Stuff happens and her set of OC dolls inspired by Moto Hagio's oldschool BL manga come to life. The art is great and I love all the characters (from what little I've read). It's such a mature take on a concept that seems very childish (tried to play an otome with same premise and couldn't stop cringing).
I also loved 51 Ways to Save Her by the same author, though it deals with heavy stuff as it's about collapse of society after tsunami hits Japan hard. Sexual violence against women is portrayed, though not in a titillating manner and with psychological gravity (not to mention the women eventually manage to fight the pigs back).
Furuya is so underrated, his seinen comics are one of the best.
No. 40906
>>40895i've too much time on my hands, you can name most genres and i can pull five titles/authors up for ya in a heartbeat, no probs.
also the document i have is indexed, so it has a table of content, headers, alphabetized after author name, with alternate titles and categories in genres, so like yuri, yaoi, shounen, seinen, shoujo, josei, horror and then whatever at the end and some of them are highligted as they're the ones i enjoyed or have re-read a lot of times.
No. 46662
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I have just finished a reread of Video Girl Ai (I've first read the manga over 10 years ago) and I am shocked how well it holds up, or maybe how much the shonen harem romance genre has declined.
All of the characters are portrayed in a realistic and sympathetic manner. Everyone acts like normal teenagers (maybe just slightly older than 16 years old, but it depends on the person). There is no dreaded 'catty females fighting over a guy' plot. The heroines support each other, sometimes even to a point of emotional masochism. Attempted sexual assault is shown to have long-term psychological consequences for the victim and her loved ones (the attempted rapists get trashed as well). There is no pedo bait whatsoever (I realize that it's a low bar to clear…).The author is comfortable showing female characters as actual human beings with emotions and bodily functions (in fact, the short sequel manga deals with a different protagonist learning out that girls are human beings first and has a slight anti virgin/whore subplot). I was pleasantly surprised by the scene in pic related. What other harem romance dares to mention oily hair?
This is ecchi, so closeups of panties are to be expected, but they are not as many or as forced as in current manga. All of the characters could be developed more, as we don’t know much about their family or hobbies, but it’s a problem with both the girls and the protagonist’s Chad best friend.
You also have to deal with the protagonist being unable to decide between two girls, but it's shown in a psychologically believable way and therefore wasn't annoyingbto me personally.
If you are looking for some ~based and pinkpilled~ manga, obviously this ain't it… but if you like straight male-centered romance (as I do, cause the female love interests are more relatable to me than a protagonist of a reverse harem), this is one of the best. I love that while the characters represent some types (the tomboy and the perfect cute girl), they don't act like retarded cliches. Seems like Katsura based his characters on people and not manga archetypes.
No. 46852
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>>46662Are you me, anon? I fell in love with Video Girl Ai when it was originally being released by Viz in Shounen Jump. Part of me always thought I looked back on it through rose-colored lenses, but it really is a fantastic romance with great characters. Even with Katsura's faults, his style and story-telling are really mature and his characterization should be something many aspire to.
I also appreciate his ability to showcase more than romantic love within the series. You see plenty of characters display love in the context of friendship and how people mistake love for something else and vice versa…It's really well rounded.
tl;dr great taste, fellow farmer.
No. 49003
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Pandora Hearts.
It's been finished since a lot of years and the author made another manga if you really like her art/writing style… (I was too sad to read it so I can't recall the name lmao)
Warning: lot of confusion and sadness.
I cried a lot.
(Picture related; my favorite character in the manga ;;)
No. 49022
>>49003I really need to reread this. I like how her art slowly found its own 'voice', it's interesting to see the style and designs go from typical 2000-ish goth/punk to what I'd call more shoujo-y and historically influenced - compare Xerxes Break's clothes and his name to a later character like Oswald.
Are you talking about Vanitas no Carte? How is it? I swore off pirating it because I wanted to spend the money legitimately but that just made me put it off indefinitely…
No. 52979
Seems like it that Ai Yazawa has started working again! It has been 10 years since she started her hiatus.
She released few new pages in 2013. This year she re-released her old series with brand new material.
I hope this means that she is well enough to continue working with Nana, too.
Nana had huge impact on me when I was a teenager. It sounds kinda stupid but I feel like part of me can’t grow up before Nana is finished.
I try to not get my hopes up. In the past ten years there has been positive news every once in a while and every one of them has given me hope that Nana will continue.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2019-08-06/nana-creator-ai-yazawa-tenshi-nanka-ja-nai-manga-gets-reorganized-version/.149772 No. 52985
>>52979Omg that's great news!! I really hope she'll finish Nana. I was always curious about what kind of illness she had that prevented her from doing so for so many years.
Paradise kiss and nana remain my favourite anime/manga ever, they have shaped me as a person more than I'll admit lol
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>>49022Different anon but if you're still checking this thread I personally like vanitas no carte. It updates about once a month and you can read the chapters on Amazon. They're $1.99 per chapter. Vanitas to me is a dick but a loveable one. It's not as popular as Pandora Hearts was but I think it might be because you have to pay to read VnC. I kinda like how she draws Vanitas more than Pandora Hearts but Pandora still has a soft spot in my heart.
No. 54544
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give dungeon meshi a fucking anime already
No. 63724
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Just saw on twitter that this manga subscription site has licensed Terra E and I'm soooooooooooo excited to reread it! The first time I read it, it was with fan translations so I'm excited to read it with more, uh, professional translations.
No. 63887
>>62912I don't remember the women in it being a survivor of csa but maybe you are looking for "Watashi no shounen"?
Actually, never mind. I think I remember the manga you are referencing, but can't remember it's title. Wasn't the female protagonist in that one a teacher or something? There was also another women 'Stacey' character that ended up getting pregnant from the MC ex-bf that was
abusive? and some 'all men are rapists' rhetoric thrown in the mix?
No. 63945
>>63887>>63887I am losing my shit because I know the exact seinen manga you are talking about, but I can't remember the title and I can't find it! I was sure it was by Oshimi Shuzoo or Inio Asano but it's not. Guess I will waste what's left of my night trying to find it
OK, I got it!!! It's right here in this thread
>>3850The title is Sensei no Shiroi Uso.
Not sure if this is the same manga anon's looking for though…
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>>63887>>62912>>63887>>62964
>>僕はお姉さんがほしいntayrt but this is the manga anon was looking for in case anyone else is interested
>>>/ot/484223 No. 64894
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>>64821I wasn't sure if I wanted to share, but eh for the sake of discussion… It's called the domestic yapoo from the 1970s. There was a more recent re-adaptation in the 2000s that is untranslated.
https://mangadex.org/title/20569/the-domestic-yapoo No. 64902
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Started reading Litchi Hikari Club 2-3 days ago and I must admit that I really, really love it and it's been an enjoyable ride so far.
I knew it's a horror manga, but never expected it to be this gory. (And also sad imo.)) Wish there were more volumes out, this entire manga was a roller coaster of emotions. The way everyone's drawn (and their lips especially) is a solid 10/10 in my world and the gore is top notch so if anyone likes gory, horror mangas then feel free to read this.
It's also kinda Nazi Germany themed (the Author himself said that it's written in a world where the Nazis have won WW2), but it doesn't really focus on it except for a few things here and there. There are also two rape scenes.
Especially the scene at the end with everyone's dead, gutted bodies floating in the water with Kanon singing "I pray that God feels pity for them." in the background legit made me start sobbing. Just thinking about Tamiya, Dafu and Kaneda's three wishes at the end of the Bokura no Hikari club volume is quick to bring tears into my eyes. The trio (and Raizou) are definitely my favorite characters. When they had Litchi snap Kaneda's spine in half, it was probably one of the worst scenes ever and when I found out that Jaibo put him on some drugs to keep him paralyzed and quiet, I was literally livid. Also HATED the way Nico went from this cute, hardworking boy who was happy to make friends to a brainless follower of Zera who never questioned that faggot once.
Zera and Jaibo fucked up so much, man. I really want to hate Jaibo, but he's too pretty and cute. He definitely deserved that head slam tho. All hail Litchi for giving me the satisfaction of that.
No. 64958
>>64894I know this is a fetish manga, but it honestly reads more like a bizarre horror, sometimes dipping into very black comedy. The stuff about body modification and turning the "yapoos" into completely dehumanized creatures, on top of them seeing humans (or at least humans of the dominating race) as gods reminded me of Shinsekai Yori, though SSY doesn't have the weird racial stuff, or the bodily fluid obsession. God, I hope this shit wasn't an inspiration. That was a very good anime.
Even more than the racism (which is off-putting in itself), it's insane to me how much thought was put into even the most putrid and/or minute details. There are multiple walls of text dedicated to how this twisted society handles offal alone, for fuck's sake. So much scat and urophilia. The living furniture made of rearranged flesh from multiple bodies is pretty horrifying, too. Reading this makes me want to turn vegan, not own any pets, and fully subscribe to atheism.
I kind of hope the author of this died alone and never bred. Whatever mistake happens in your brain to make you imagine the content of this story shouldn't risk being spread.
No. 70774
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>>69584Omg that looks fucking hilarious.
I've never liked japanese tv shows but this looks hilarious. Fingers crossed they make a full series of it.
So many great recommendations in this thread! I'll add Nekodamari to the list.
It's labeled an ecchi and seinen but from the few chapters out (10) but it feels more like a josei.
It's about the cats of an office worker, their daily lives and how they interact with the main character (who feels really relatable as well in the few times we engage in her story.)
I explained it really bad but it's just a cute comfy manga about an office worker and her spoiled cats.
No. 70785
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>>3797Oshimi is a great mangaka if your a fan of the psychological genre, my favorite being Happiness and Boku Wa Mari No Naka (Mari being my favorite of the two because while reading you're unsure if what's going on is supernatural or if the MC is just crazy.)
I know it's a really popular manga at the moment but incase no one's heard of it, Beastars is one of the best manga out there right now.
Best way to describe it is a realistic, darker Zootopia.
No. 72246
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Just finished Drifting Classroom by Kazuo Umezu. I really enjoyed it, though it could get pretty outlandish at times and you gotta suspend your disbelief.
The fact that so many children survived in a desolate wasteland is lol. AND performing surgery with rudimentary tools and no pain medicine? AND surviving the black plague?!
I love stories about apocalypses, though, and things that turn into a typical Lord of Flies situation. I'd recommend Dragon Head for that, too
No. 72268
>>72246>manga literally about an earthquake causing time travel>gotta suspend your disbeliefkek
Not sure if I can recommend anything you haven't already read anon, but here's a few;
Apocalypse no Toride/Fort of Apocalypse
Meteor (basic plot is similar to dragon head)
I am a Hero (live action movie adaptation is surprisingly good but author shoves in a bunch of his gross personal fetishes)
Sprite (ongoing, haven't read it in a couple years so honestly can't say if it's good or not)
Metro Survive (not really apocalypse but basically if the first part of dragon head was the entire story)
Girls' Last Tour (very chill, personal favorite)
The whole recent pandemic of shounen survival manga has some apocalyptic elements if you can stand to read shit like "uhhh….giant flying goldfish/children's toys/animals with human faces…..and they eat people
No. 72328
>>72268Ha, fair enough. For some reason I'm able to stomach magical elements like time travel but still get confused about children overcoming their physical limits.
Out of that list, I've only read Apocalypse no Toride, so thanks for the recs! Last night I started Kanojo wo Mamoru 51 no Houhou, so I'll check out your list after I finish that.
No. 72365
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Lately, I've just been trying to find some humorous, feel good, manga. I've been reading this series called Nyankees, a mixture of the words Yankees and Nyan. The story is about gang shit, but everyone is actually a cat! It's such a funny concept, I love it.
No. 73248
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https://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/azo3gg/can_you_help_me_find_these_otome_game_based_manga/I found this pic with links to each manga (in reddit comments).
Lots of shoujo isekai I've never heard of before. It's nice to find something that isn't a recycled shounen ecchi harem series, although some of the listed manga are kinda trite as well.
No. 73261
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Right now I'm reading Kusuriya no Hitorigoto and I really like it. It's about a girl working in the imperial court who studies medicine and solves mysteries. It's really cute and funny, plus the art is great.
>>73248Thanks anon. I like to make fun of dudes who watch isekai, but shoujo isekai makes me kind of understand the appeal.
No. 73326
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Do you anons read Korean webcomics?
Ever since I read "The Moon That Rises In Day" I have been obsessed with Korean webcomics. I like how they write romance more, since it's more direct and passionate. If you have anything similar to these I listed, please recommend.
My current favorites are:
"Que Sera Sera"
I personally don't like older women/younger men romances, but this one made me not care at all and root for their relationship. Even other relationships around them.
"A Good Day to be a Dog"
The title sounds stupid, but this comic, by far, is my favorite out of everything in the list. The romance development is very exciting and beautiful. Also because this is my favorite author and I like their writing.
It talks about this cursed girl whose family members turn into dogs at night. To break the curse, she needs to kiss someone she loves and loves her back. She crushes on one of her coworkers (they're teachers btw) and this coworker's friend kinda hate her to death. You get the gist. Of course, one night, everything change.
"Devil No.4"
I'm just starting to read this one, but I absolutely love the art style and concept, don't know about the romance though but I like the characters themselves.
In this world, devils work like corporations.This devil no.4 needs to have a contract with this girl who lost everything and at the lowest point of her life. He can give her anything she wants, at the cost of her soul…
"Love Deficiency"
I underestimate this one because of the simple art style and silly concept. But holy shit the character's development is so goood I had to add it here.
The female protagonist boyfriend dumped her, which causes her to have the "invisibility" illness. This illness affects heartbroken people and make them completely disappear and die just like that. She clings to her boyfriend and begs him to stay with her in the most desperate ways, but he completely shuts her down because she is so clingy and over-affectionate throughout their whole relationship. While she was harassing her ex-boyfriend to stay, she meets another guy who have the same illness and they decided to work it out together. However, their personalities completely clashes and there's absolutely no hope in their relationship…
No. 74481
>>74476Korean webtoons are mostly trash. The art is lazy and sloppy af, most of it being digitally done just highlights this. I hate the layout with excessive white spaces and little to no background.
>>74474>nobody really reads manga anymoreLol in what world?
No. 74809
>>74803Now and Then, Here and There (a series about the effects of almost all water on earth being dried up) was my first anime I ever watched that wasn't One Piece.
Imagine my surprise when 10 year old me in the 00s found out that not all anime were that gripping and interesting and that anime fans preferred shows about cute girls doing cute things.
Even more recent stuff about the world ending is just so stupid and brain-numbing that I just can't get into it (not to mention so many current shows out of Japan is just the same show but with a different setting. Maybe I shouldn't say that when I want more of the same as well lol)
I don't mean to sound pretentious or anything because I respect creating art that other people enjoy even if I don't. I just saw this post and was like YES, this is why I don't like anime nowadays and whenever I saw that dozens of neckbeards on other forums try to recommend me stuff and it's all the same shit.
Rest in pieces, dead genres. You didn't deserve this.
No. 74838
>>74803>please save my earthI never read this one but from the same mangaka I loved Mirai no Utena. It's hard to explain the story because it's only 11 volumes long but a lot is going on. It's about reincarnations and time travel. If any of you have the opportunity to read it somehow then do it. I never managed to find scans though, I read the French translated volumes in a public library a very long time ago.
And speaking of CLAMP, I grew up reading some of their manga (CCS when the manga was abrely concluded, clamp detective school, etc.) but I never read X/1999 because I wanted it to be over before starting, but we all know how that went. I've been told the anime adaptation has a proper ending, did anyone watch it? Is it good?
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Mr Villians Day off temporarily soothes my depression. Gib moe demon bf.
No. 74846
>>74838If I remember right you get your pick of two different endings, one for the anime and one for the movie. I wouldn't really call either ending good though.
Off topic but man, I used to love Clamp but now I can't even keep up with what's on hiatus and what's been straight-up cancelled, which wouldn't be such an issue if stuff like xxxHolic Rei and TWC weren't literally just plot twists and cliffhangers. Got some false hope when their 30th anniversary website went up but seems like they're still just doing Clear Card and random merch. At this rate at least one of them's going to be dead before they get anywhere close to wrapping up their multiverse stories.
No. 74856
>>74809Of my God, I love this series anon (even mentioned it in the anime critical thread)!
I wish that it was not completely forgotten. Such a hardbreaking story.
I don't know how it was in the other countries, but here in the 90's and early 00's manga (and anime) was loved by fans for offering relatively mature stories in cartoon packaging. It was very common for the early fans to shill manga/anime for having insane depth in comparison to american comics and Disney movies (lol). The early fans were also watching some moe series, but they were a rather niche interest. Basing your life philosophy on Japanese doodles has always been cringe, but at least in the past people had more reason to do that. I miss manga/anime that are written like normal stories and not some bizzare storm of medium specific retarded tropes. I love older series for that reason. I feel like it's very rare nowadays that something not retarded gets made in the first place and becomes popular enough to get an anime.
>>74838>>74846Yeah the anime and movie have different endings. The movie is beautiful but dumb (literally just a bunch of fights thrown together), I would watch it after experiencing manga and/or the TV series as it can still spoil some plot points.
I watched the TV series as a young teen and loved it, I think it's relatively good and the ending is okay. Probably not as good as what Clamp had in mind, but fitting the story. The manga is amazing though and worth reading even though it will drive you insane how there is no ending lol.
I wish I could get into newish Clamp works, but for some reason they don't grab my attention. The latest thing I enjoyed by them was Chobits. I adore their 90's stuff though.
I can't believe that I forgot about Clover, it's the fucking best and the story is sort of concluded (there was another volume or two planned, but the story seems complete as it is TBH). It also is a dark/psychological shoujo with some violence thrown in.
I can't believe that the Clamp ladies are old, it seems to me like they always were around and they always will be! Apparently the X ending has been already written and drawn but there were issues with a publisher. So maybe we can get it someday, even if Clamp is no more. At least I hope so.
No. 74884
>>74846By good I meant "well-written" for context, I'm not sure if you're saying it's not very well-written or if it's a sad ending. And for some reason I thought there was an anime, and the movie was just concluding the story kind of like with Evangelion. I'll check it out in any case, I think I'll start with the manga first though if possible.
>>74856About how CLAMP isn't grabbing your attention anymore I feel like that's the general public's opinion about them too. The only comments I see about them nowadays is either
>when will [literally whatever series] have an ending?>can they stop with the crossovers already?>is [whatever series] a direct sequel of [another series] or a soft reboot?They were so insanely popular in the 2000s too, I never really noticed until recently how they're not really all that popular anymore.
No. 74885
>>74884>By good I meant "well-written" for context, I'm not sure if you're saying it's not very well-written or if it's a sad ending. Sorry if I wasn't clear! I meant that the ending is fine, but not amazing. Both the movie and the anime present 2 different, plausible conclusions to the story. The thing is, I believe that Clamp had a third option in mind.
The manga is the best and the most fun, tho anime follows it very closely. If you prefer anime, you can watch it first. Just don't start with the movie. You might also want to read Tokyo Babylon first as it introduces two major characters and another one that is important to the story.
BTW here is a link to a cool tumblr full of X meta, including discussion of a possible ending! Best read after enjoying either TV series or the manga of X.
https://seishirosakurazuka.tumblr.com/post/144494388871/meta-masterpostI wish I could enjoy their newer series but something makes them very boring to me. I can't even get through the first few pages. Something about the writing seems stiff to me. Any time I reread something from their old body of work, I fall in love all over again (even if some of their content is
problematic. Good thing I never got into CCS lmfao).
No. 74886
>>74884Yeah, I meant sad. I honestly haven't watched either though, just read the manga and then read summaries of both endings, so I can't comment on the writing. My fav couple ends tragically in manga, anime, and movie but I guess that's what happens to side characters.
>>74856>>7488490s and 00s were Clamp's golden years. Tokyo Babylon, X, CCS, Chobits, and to a lesser extent Kobato and Tsubasa were all very popular, mostly mainstream series.
But Kobato (2005-2011) is the last 'new' series they did. Since then there's been Gate 7, which was abandoned after 4 volumes, and a bunch of reboots/sequels. Drug & Drop made it two volumes, Rei and TWC lasted a bit longer but then both were dropped so they could focus on Clear Card and it's anime adaptation.
So, for the last decade they haven't really been making anything 'new' at all, and they've not been able to keep up any of the sequels/reboots they've been doing. It feels like the only reason CCS Clear Card didn't also get abandoned is that it was probably a pretty good moneymaker, though I don't actually know what wider reception to the anime has been. Sequels are fine but I think they pushed themselves too far with the whole "95% of our works are connected and you have to read them all to understand everything" and now they've dug themselves into a hole and can't continue anything.
No. 74951
>>74886I could never get into Kobato. I liked the first chapter but I think the local scanlations stopped so I forgot about it for a long time. Now I'm not even sure where I should start reading it. It's a mess.
Tsubasa is Kingdom Heart tier bullshit TBH.
No. 74958
>>74951>Tsubasa is Kingdom Heart tier bullshit TBHI never tried reading it since it's a crossover and I wasn't up to date with everything CLAMP published but I noticed since it exists that it attracted the same audience as KH, maybe that's not a coincidence.
>>74885>>74886Alright, I watched the first episode of X (so the TV show instead of the movie) and I feel like I should read Tokyo Babylon first so I'm starting with that and then I'll go back to X (either the anime or the manga first, idk yet) I'll have enough free time and motivation the next few weeks to read a lot of things so I'll try to read as many CLAMP stuff as possible and I was thinking about finally being up to date with Kaori Yuki's manga too. I'm in the mood for shojo manga nowadays.
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>>75230Stop it, you almost make me want to read Tsubasa.
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Has anyone read Reiraku/Downfall by Asano Inio?
I've always loved his works because of umibe and punpun but reading reiraku made me realize how much of a narc he is. The more you read the more you realize the manga is just an autobiography.
MC is a mangaka, his wife is in the same industry, the MC's office/house is literally Asano's office/house. Following this logic he goes on to cheat on his wife with a possible loli??? I haven't had anyone to discuss this with so maybe I'm being retarded
No. 76072
>>76052Welcome to hell, anon. Imagine that the ending has already been completed and someone has already seen it.
You may now watch the anime and movie and pretend that one of those endings is how the manga would end. Or you can make your own.
What are your fave characters from TB/X?
If you want more vintage Clamp feels, I highly recommend Clover (apparently it also was never finished, but you can't tell from the story) - IMHO it has the most wonderful art in all of Clamp's manga or RG Veda if you would like to read a proto-X with an actual ending.
Shirahime Syo is a wonderful oneshot as well.
No. 76183
>>76082That's the cutest thing, I appreciate that you wanted to save us all from this hell
I actually forgot about the cliffhanger and had wanted to re-read it recently, good thing I read this thread and remembered not to reopen that wound
No. 77745
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The Lies of Sheriff Evans: dead or love" is such a charming manga.
It is kinda refreshing for some weird reason? The characters are so lovable even though they're all losers. I kinda of like the humor, it doesn't even bother me when it repeats itself again and again.
Anything similar to it?
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>>79468Ending almost redeemed how bad it got. Hopefully Kaito might do an extra chapter or illustration for the book release.
No. 83295
>>82705how the fuck does the ending redeem ANYTHING?
I'm all for LGBT content but it really seemed like his best friend was
toxic pushed him into a relationship. He made his family and his best friend worry by moving away/quitting school because "oh no he don't like me". It was overly dramatic and manipulative, and in the end it worked.
No. 88044
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Anyone else reading Sono Bisque Doll wa Koi wo Suru? I like it a lot despite myself lol; if you're especially tolerant of ecchi bullshit i recommend giving it a read, the main couple is quite wholesome and the author has definitely done their research wrt cosplay. Also it's crazy how much more enjoyable these kinds of romcoms are when the main guy has a personality and goals
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>>74841Thanks for the recommendation! this is right up my alley.
Lately I'm very into funny, lighthearted mangas with shojo hints. I'm also trying to get into the isekai genre, but it's heavily male oriented so it's been hard finding something I actually enjoy.
I'm currently following 3 mangas. "Tensei Shite Yandere Kouryaku Yaishou Kyara to Shujuukankei ni Natta Kekka" is about a girl who is reborn as the rival character in a yandere game, so she is trying to avoid getting killed by the yandere characters. The other one is "Otome Game no Hametsu Flag shika Nai Akuyaku Reijou ni Tensei shiteshimatta", which is basically the same idea (I think it recently got an anime adaptation), however while the first one is a bit darker, the second one is mostly comedic and focuses on the main character being a lovable idiot. Both are fun reads if you're looking to just have a good laugh and not a deep, interesting story.
Last one is The Girl from the Other Side: Siúil, A Rún. It's kind of a dark fairytale, it gave me very heavy ancient magus bride vibes but without the romance.
No. 88946
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I don't even like yaoi much but I stumbled upon Boku no Mama chan (43) Kaihatsu Nikki. And I don't really have much about this but it's literally some wet dream of Freeman and Cumberbatch shipper. It's weird.
I wonder if manga authors do something like that a lot. (Baestars sounds like Zootopia fanfic to me, too)
No. 88951
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Anyone here read Kimi Wa Petto? I don't read manga much but I want to read similar stuff/more Josei so if anyone has any recs that would be great.
No. 89178
>>88953>Ascendance of a bookwormBibliophile girl isekai'd into being poor and sick. Decides to print her own damn books. What a legend.
Maybe check out some otome isekai titles. The MC usually uses wit and diplomacy to deal with her situations instead of cheats.
No. 89828
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My broken mariko". It's short, only 4 chapters, but will make you cry like a baby. Awesome art too.
No. 90196
>>89881The author also did Paradise Kiss which is fashion focused and lovely if you enjoy her art style.
She also worked on Princess Ai which you should absolutely never read unless you want to read Courtney Love's mary sue princess-angel-rockstar self insert whine.
No. 90366
>>89881Have you read Mars? It doesn't have the fashion but also is a more mature shoujo manga.
>>90196She only contributed a single drawing to Princess Ai, I think. Personally I have a soft spot for it but the protagonist is a total Mary Sue, won't deny it. It's also never been finished (the sequel is missing a final volume, I think). I read it as a teen, so IDK if I would still like it if I read it now for the first time (I enjoyed my reread a few months ago though!). It's trashy fun.
No. 91304
>>90314I mean I guess, but what I found kind of unique about it is that it follows the friend and not the girl who committed suicide (and in fact doesn’t show the suicide at all). I thought it was a really intense look at the aftermath of an unexpected suicide but managed to do it with a certain lightness and humor to it.
I also really appreciate that it’s not all male-gazey and that it shows a really close friendship between two women. I especially like how much of a gross mess the female MC is at times, cause you don’t see that sort of “unflattering” portrayal of a normal woman much in manga.
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>>91304Just read it and agree with this take. Also the scene where the old men in the bar are all trying to talk to the main character is so fucking accurate. Funny too
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Okay so this might come across as autistic nitpick but its something I can't stand about beaststars
The author really tries to put most herbivores as the weak animals without really trying to explore the potential herbivores have with some of them being super strong. Take Louis, a fully grown male stag will never be taken down by a single wolf(i mean, wolves are not particularly that big except very few). A full grown Stag is actually 6 times heavier, The Author also often has fucked up biology in this, i mean panda being carnivores, and lions being apex makes no sense with animals like tigers existing, what is even more dumb is bears getting S.R.D (strength reduction Drug) so they don't go berserk, and also considering how tigers hunt and eat bears, but they don't get S.R.D
Biggest fuck up i saw was seeing a hippo in carnivore lock down, against a herbivore. . . A HIPPO does not even EAT meat, damnit.
Its one of few things that take the fun out of animal kingdom ideology of the series
No. 95076
>>95052Pandas can and do sometimes eat meat, and they have the digestive system of a carnivore, which is why they need to eat so much bamboo. If they were biologically fully herbivorous they'd be better at digesting plant matter and wouldn't need to be constantly eating and shitting bamboo.
Also, lions are apex predators irl. Apex just means at the top of the food chain of a specific environment, which they are. It doesn't mean "lions are the strongest and would beat anyone in a fight". Lions are apex predators, and so are tigers, and eagles, and killer whales. It's kind of meaningless in the context of the series where all animals live together rather than being split into different environments, but it's not wrong to say lions are apex predators. They're just one of many.
As for the drug, idk it's been a while since I've read it but I got the impression that it was given to all extremely large predators and not just bears over 2m. There's a lot of world-building stuff that doesn't get fully explored in the series.
>tigers hunt and eat bearslmao anon idk what your boner for tigers is but you know there are different kinds of bears, right? Tigers are not out regularly hunting down adult grizzlies, and even when they do it's not a guaranteed win.
>a fully grown male stag will never be taken down by a single wolfThis is kind of another "tigers kill bears" thing. They can and do, but that doesn't mean it's common or normal. A solo wolf hunting a large herbivore can be successful, but it would take a long time and wouldn't be worth the effort. That's why they hunt in packs in the first place.
But, again, all kind of meaningless when you're talking about a fistfight between anthropomorphic cartoon animals whose biology literally can't match the real world. Like, you have an issue with the food chain stuff but you're okay with the fact they all have hands, and reptiles and mammals can produce viable offspring? Lmao chill out and lower your expectations, anon. It's just a shounen manga. Maybe watch some national geographic while you're at it so you can at least be accurate if you're going to nitpick.
No. 95225
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>>95147>>95057Hippos eat meat when they are low on Iron but they aren't carnivore hunters in the traditional sense
>>95076>But, again, all kind of meaningless when you're talking about a fistfight between anthropomorphic cartoon animals whose biology literally can't match the real world. Like, you have an issue with the food chain stuff but you're okay with the fact they all have hands, and reptiles and mammals can produce viable offspring? Lmao chill out and lower your expectations, anon. It's just a shounen manga. Maybe watch some national geographic while you're at it so you can at least be accurate if you're going to nitpick.My issue is that all herbivores are portrayed as weak and frail for no reason and that the only way for a herbivore to match a carnivore is with a gun, I mean fucking zootopia did this better by showing larger herbivores being a match for carnivores
No. 95260
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>>94270>>92450I can't believe but I actually found it and I'm literally so dumb, because there are a lot of things to remember in this manga and I remembered only the kiss
It's Kamisama no Iutoori Ni
No. 95562
>>95260Thanks for sharing your find
Glad you found what you were looking for
No. 95981
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>>95941Same anon, I agree so hard. Kishimoto wanted to develop Sakura more as well, his editors just told him not to. In my honest opinion most of them are fine up until the end chapters, I know everyone hates Sakura but she's my favourite.
No. 95992
>>95981Hey, I like her too!
Judging by the amount of Sakura-centric fics I came upon, she has a dedicated fanbase among girls, it's mostly scrots who keep bashing her.
No. 96023
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>>95941>>95992I was talking about most of the female cast, they all had so much potential
No. 96072
>>96023Never liked any female character in this series. I don't know what it is with shounen male mangakas, but how can they manage to write such a shit cast of female characters alongside complex, deep male characters?
yeah we know you're ignorant about women, but just write them normally like how you would write a male character?? They are humans too not just a pair of boobs and asses.
No. 96147
>>96118Wow, it's almost as though Naruto is overrated garbage!
I get having an attachment to the series because of nostalgia; it was a lot of peoples' first anime. People need to stop defending it, though. Naruto is basically a bunch of manga tropes repurposed into one story, and everything it does, some other manga does better.
For instance, Sasuke's backstory is a shameless ripoff of Kurapika's from Hunter x Hunter. I understand that Kishimoto imitates Togashi out of love for his work, but it's really fucking irritating when people act like Togashi is the one who copied Kishimoto. This problem wouldn't exist if Kishimoto was a less derivative writer.
And for anyone about to say Naruto came first: the thing that come out in 1997 was a one-shot. The actual series of Naruto started a year after Hunter x Hunter.
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Can we talk about Shimura Takako?
I love how she handled trans issues in wandering son, and binged the rest of her work and I'm not sure what to say?
Her work initially came off as posi LGBT content but I had to stop reading when one of her stories alluded to a man jerking off a kid. is wandering son just a fetish fantasy wtf
No. 96283
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an anon posted a panel from this manga on the panels thread.I ended up reading it and I liked it.any other-preferably short-manga about depression like this kek
No. 98858
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I'm looking for a josei or seinen manga with angst and romance and hopefully not something related to fashion. WLW preferred but I can go hetero as well, just no MLM. I've scanned through recommendations both from this thread and the girly manga thread already so looking for some fresh recs.
No. 98862
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>>98858Gunjou seems like it could be right up your alley.
Plot: "The story of a woman who asks the lesbian who is in love with her to kill her husband and their life on the road after the deed is done."
I know there are a small group of diehard fans for this manga. The angst level was actually so high that it turned me off of it, but if angst is your thing, you might love it.
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>>98862The premise sounds interesting and I wanna give it a try but what on earth is this art style omfg
No. 99436
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So pissed that I got into this shit again knowing I should never start reading an unfinished series. The art is gorgeous and I want to keep reading but I've caught up on all chapters and I can't stand the ideao of waiting months for new content till it ends. I'm a clown.
It's called "Where The Shooting Star Falls, Wait There" (yup, retarded title)
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=150170 No. 99457
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>>99138Skip to loafer is super comfy and down to eath, it's not finished yet though.
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=150148 No. 99540
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is anyone reading bouquet for an ugly girl? it's about a, well, ugly girl who becomes friends with the most popular guy in her class. she has a crush on him and he seems to like her too but she's overly aware of her below average looks (compared to her classmates) so she's constantly jumping to conclusions and thinking that he must hate her or something. i think it's really funny and heartwarming, and the misunderstandings aren't as annoying as they are in other shoujo manga.
No. 99631
>>99611I love it, Fujimoto is a genius their works are the best.
RIP my boy Aki, I just want him to stop suffering.
FUTURE IS BEST! No. 99727
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not gonna lie, i actually hate Chainsawman, i didn't like most of the characters + MC is annoying. but damn: it's making me sad
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HAIKYUU IS OVER FFFFUUUUUUUUUCCKKKKKKKK
No. 99760
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>>99753SAME
I'm so sad and happy at the same time.
It was the only manga I've ever bothered to keep up with.
No. 99767
>>99758I think it’s really good!! It sort of wraps up everything nicely while still keeping to it’s ultimate message. There’s a timeskip but it’s satisfying to see their growth, rather than feeling like a cheap “oh theyre older now ok the end” sort of cop out. I loved seeing everyone’s successes and failures, and how there’s never really an antagonist- everyone’s working towards the same goal. It’s a very fulfilling series, I highly recommend reading it all!!
>>99760GOD I WANT TO CRY BUT IM AT WORK
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Is re-reading Nana considered self harm? It should be!!!
No. 100800
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I'm now on chapter 42 of my Nana re-read and I wish Hachi aborted that stupid baby and moved on with her damn life instead of playing house with Takumi WORST BOY but that's just not how she is. I get it but she makes me so upset. My memory is pretty fuzzy on what goes down beyond this point in the manga so should be fun re-reading the coming chapters.
I don't understand why Ai Yazawa doesn't just give us closure and do an epilogue at the very least. She has been ok health-wise for a while now it seems…
No. 100898
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>>100865It's hard to relate to Hachi in that series of events imo but she said something like
>Nana O. was MIA, Nobu failed to show up for a while (he came to the apartment to meet them after some hesitation) but Takumi was there and firm. Hachi just wanted someone who is unquestionably there for her and pushed everyone else away to pursue that sort of stability.This was brought up between chapter 42 and 53, not sure exactly when but she ends up talking to Nobu finally and she admits to herself that it wasn't to spare anyone's feelings but rather to keep herself comfortable.
Man I forgot how fragile Nana O. becomes about midway. The
panic attacks and constant crying… kind of pathetic. Maybe an unpopular Nana opinion but Ren is a piece of shit imo and his
death was probably a good thing in the long run. If Nana survives it, which she seems to have since the narration is retroactive, she'll be a stronger person eventually. RenXNana is dysfunctional as fuck. Also the flashforward bits seem to signal that Nana K. would end up with Nobu if Ai Yazawa got around to finishing the series.
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>>100800Abou Yazawa already being somewhat healthy, she is working on redrawing her old series to warm up to drawing again, apparently she spent so much time without drawing that her art quality kinda went downhill, so if she did anything Nana related it would most likely look like shit.
Tenshi Nanka no Jai already got published with updated artwork.
No. 101016
>>100919I remember she had some event IRL related to remake of this manga that still got delayed because of her health.
Talking about Nana… Am I the only one who can't seem to stand Hachi (Nana Komatsu) now? Ive been reading it again after many years and even though back when i was little I loved Hachi, now I couldnt even finish chapters because of her sometimes. Shame that i still love her character design, but personality is definitely not my cup of tea.
No. 101032
https://twitter.com/missingknj/status/1152091198342991878?s=20Found this thread pretty amusing, she points out a lot of the same stuff I thought as I read the manga.
>>100919Eh, at this point the fans would accept a less than perfectly drawn Nana over nothing. Imo she's got some GRRM shit going on, seems like she's avoiding ending her story because she's worried about it being received poorly due to its content.
>>101016Ok sorry about this fucking essay but
I hated Hachi as a kid and now I like her a little bit more. Her irrational behavior is frustrating but nearly every character in Nana is irrational and messy. Her marriage of convenience to Takumi made absolutely no sense to me as a kid and at my current age I understand that a bit better. I still wouldn't have kept the baby and married that
abusive asshole if I were her but I kinda get it. Hachi is a spoiled person who takes the easy road, or the road people in her immediate vicinity expects her to take. She's weak-willed like that, but I appreciate that she
knows that she is that way and learns to make slightly healthier choices as the story progresses. Towards the end I think you do see Hachi grow a as a person, she is able to put others first and doesn't let Takumi completely control her. She does become more cynical towards her own love life but still Hachi's arguably the more positively evolved Nana of the two. Nana O's arc is a complete downward spiral.
The tragedy of Nana the manga, rather than Hachi's disappointing marriage, comes from the two bands and their shitty members who can't do the right thing for themselves at any point. Yasu is arguably the only exception to this. Nana O. starts as this magnetic person you think is independent (because you see her through Hachi's perspective) but turns out she is overcompensating for how scared she is of loneliness (once you see Nana's own perspective as well as her bandmates). Her "strong personality" reveals itself to be a flimsy front for her desire to control those around her. That is the true reason for Nana's rivalvry with Reira as well. The latter is able to inspire the loyalty of pretty much anyone around her including Nana's own supposed soulmate Ren. I don't think Nana has that big of a passion to sing really, it's all about "proving herself" so people will do as she says and she can force them to be with her. Nobu is probably the first character to tell Nana to fuck off with her controlling behavior and arguably the only character who is able to break free from Nana's script fully.
Funnily enough, if Nana came straight to Apartment 707 and told Hachi to stay with her instead of being a coward, Hachi would have booted Takumi when the babygate thing went down. Nana's true soulmate (Hachi) slips through her fingers because she can't get herself to tell her what to do like she used to. Perhaps the way she learned to let Hachi be her own person (in the worst possible time to let her do that too tbh lol) is Nana O's one character growth for the better. It does end up
triggering panic attacks for the rest of her life and becomes the catalyst for her ultimate downfall but hey, she did do a non-
toxic thing for her best friend, technically??
Not sure why Yasu never regrets introducing Nana to Ren. It clearly ruined her life, but everyone seems to think it is some incredible romance. Then again, this manga has a way of not letting its characters realize things are shitty. It even has literally everyone cheering a pedophile on, yikes.
No. 101055
How did everyone here start rereading Nana at the same time I did? Lmao
It's a great manga in the beginning but I feel like the plot gets too messy around the last 20 chapters. Too many new characters get introduced, it keeps jumping to future then back to present often for seemingly no reason, everyone is still messed up on a downwards spiral and…
>It even has literally everyone cheering a pedophile on, yikes.
Yeah what the fuck up is with that. Shin is only 13-14 iirc and sells his body to old women (and men) and everyone is like "uh…not good but oh well". Even Hachi, who is supposed to be a mother figure and had a good upbringing, is like "Well Shin don't prostitute yourself TOO OFTEN mmmkay?"
I understand that at the beginning they might not be able to do much to stop it, but I dislike how as the story goes on it becomes something "normal". His romance with Layla the pedo is sickening and then he gets thrown to jail for weed possesion and everyone is like "welp". Poor kid. At least Layla fucks off to Takumi but the kid has already groomed :/.
I like Nana O.'s development as a character. She is on a downward spiral and her character flaws are apparent but if we assume that manga is going to get finished one day, I think her development could be really good. She seemed a little too great in the beginning (along with her romance with Ren) and I am glad that illusion got shattered.
I believe the manga does paint a realistic picture of how messed up people are in entertainment industry (or those involved with them). Going from various insecurities, egoism, "success no matter what" mentality, need for acceptance and really messed up stuff like pedophilia, it shows how fucked up it all can get.
No. 101058
>>99753I stopped reading around when they had those winter (?) camps. The one Hinata went to uninvited. Those were the latest chapters, but I stopped reading. I am not good at keeping up with the new chapters of manga, so it just sort of happened. I might go back to finish reading it now that is over. I did see the last chapter and was definitely not expecting Hanger
to become Argentinian lol. I did get a little emotional though, so I am sure I will enjoy the ending more once I actually know what the heck was going on.
No. 101088
>>101055I really don't get why Yazawa introduced a million fanclub members with their own subplots. So much screentime is wasted to show their boring conversations. And then there's Junko and her guy discussing old news over and over, which I ordinarily wouldn't mind but the manga ends up sidelining the two titular Nanas in favor of a bunch of side characters. The two women barely get "screentime" and that sucks.
>nana OOh yeah, I like her arc a lot despite it being a negative one. I didn't mean to come across as though I dislike her. I just feel very, very sad for her.
Also its extremely frustrating that not a single soul in the manga is able to recognize a
toxic dynamic. Every single character is seen supporting a shitty relationship, whiteknighting an abuser/cheater, encouraging co-dependent behavior etc. It's odd that more level-headed characters like Yasu, Miu, Shin, etc. are also participating in extremely irrational ways of thinking when it comes to these relationships. They're only willing to half-assedly call Takumi out, and even then they usually ignore his dickishness. Maybe it's a Japanese thing to not have criticisms of people's relationships but these are already pretty blunt people with no sense of boundaries.
One thing I find exhausting about Josei manga in general is that they're irrational despite showing "realistic" grit. They depict human tragedies and hardships pretty candidly but the way the characters behave can get way too dramatic and it ends up hurting the story especially if the story is a long one like Nana. Nana's premise is great and there is a lot to love about it but the execution is strange to say the least.
Why the fuck is nobody pointing out how retarded like 80% of the relationships in Nana are? Why is nobody criticizing anyone?
No. 101222
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felt it was more on-topic here
No. 101312
I’m reading Nana for the first time right now, but I haven’t fully finished so I don’t have as many deep insights on the characters as other anons, but since we’re talking about Nana can I just ask-
What drug is Ren addicted to? I know they mentioned he did cocaine once(?), but most of the time he’s seen smoking so I assume it’s weed since it’s also mentioned that he smokes weed as well? I had to laugh in that scene where someone (don’t remember who) freaks out because they see that Ren has marijuana and they’re afraid that he’ll get horribly addicted when marijuana is one of the least addictive drugs and relatively harmless (maybe I’m biased). I’m on chapter 76 so I don’t know if they talk about this later on. Kind of a nitpick that doesn’t really matter.
On another note, I don’t really feel like Ren and Nana have chemistry. The whole manga builds up to the idea that they have this incredibly
toxic, but codependent relationship but I don’t really get why they seem to like each other that much in the first place? Nana seems to like independence and is very driven toward her career while Ren is laidback and likes to fool around. Other than the fact that they’re both punk (and that Ren looks like Sid Vicious I guess), why are they so drawn to each other? I’m not criticizing the manga, maybe I’m just genuinely missing something. I don’t see what they get out of each other’s company.
>>101222Good tier list. Nobu best boy and Miu best girl for sure.
No. 101330
>>101312Yep, he is addicted to coke and smokes some weed as well. In an earlier chapter Reira actually asks if he is smoking weed in a light tone and asks to get a puff of it (turns out it was a cig) though. Seems like an inconsistency to me tbh, Yazawa decided weed was a problem for him later on as she developed the story more.
Yeah I don't really think Ren and Nana have much chemistry. Nana has far more chemistry with Hachi and I actually think she is in love with her but doesn't realize she is bisexual yet. She has a history of acting "princely" for women and seems to be
really interested in "treating them right" sometimes.
As for why Ren and Nana are so drawn to each other… it's because the plot needs them to. Nothing happened between them that grounds their relationship. They just met as teens and it was… love at first sight aka sexual attraction. Nothing more. Then again, nearly every character seems to have a boner for Ren when he is one of the plainest characters. His personality seems to shift depending on what the plot needs him to be like. Sometimes he is all about hard work and cold-blooded career moves, sometimes he is willing to throw everything away for a friend. Sometimes he is loyal, sometimes he randomly makes out with people. It's a bad character whose only trait is that he is hot and good at guitar.
It's also unclear how Nana is doing internally. She had that panic attack saga and it didn't really get resolved, she just kinda got over it once becoming Ren's wife. Is Ren framed as a positive influence on Nana? I'm not sure. The framing is all over the place.
No. 101363
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Just finished my Nana re-read and I am so empty inside. How dare she leave us hanging for ELEVEN years…
No. 101387
>>78058>>79468>>82705>>83295fuck the ao no flag ending the les character up with a man? what the fuck? saying she loves both men and women? this girl who struggled to feel anything for her boyfriends? okay. the only redeeming thing about it is that apparently jp twitter was speculating that her husband is a tranny, by looking at the way he behaved, and i saw reddit comments saying they wouldnt like that because it kinda implies trans men arent real men LMAO id fucking love that, her husband being just a self hating woman makes it 100000 times better and would actually make sense since shes les. get
triggered redditors
No. 101615
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I will forever be sad they only translate one chapter a year of this absolute masterpiece…
No. 101624
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>>101618I could gush for hours about the FL Marie. She is my goddess.
No. 101854
>>101849Welcome to pre revolution libertine France.
I will argue the flat characters.
No. 101858
>>101624Same. It's amazing that she was created by a japanese man. Proving that that they are capable of creating something other than moe waifus, I
guess.
>>101849 I don't think the characters are flat. The manga brings up a lot of interesting themes like gender roles and class. But it's jarring how some look like they came straight out of a visual kei band.
No. 101864
>>101858Tbf visual kei is basically rococo punk.
>>101863Rogue is supposed to be about Marie, her obsession with gender equality and how that obsession lead to her downfall. I was at first annoyed she disappeared and you only learn of her fate via Henri's death scene, but it grew on me.
No. 101873
>>101615I used to read it a while ago, I stopped where
Marie got the baby. What happened afterwards?
No. 101895
>>101858But themes being interesting do not equal good characters. A lot of the events in the manga seem so disjointed and whimsical. What the fuck was that quartering execution where the uncle pulls a bunch of completely retarded stunts? Why is the torturer… like that? Are we doing gritty France circa 18th century or are we doing yaoi?
Charles is grating as a protagonist. Just somme fagboy who keeps running against that "idealism" wall which he can only afford to do due to his higher class.
He can afford to fuck up a million times. For a manga about class-struggle, it's certainly an odd choice to follow a noble who is framed as righteous and "one of the good ones". Cool yeah nice theme if you don't read any theory I guess.
Marie's edginess I do not understand how
anyone can look past. I love edgy characters but Marie is straight up just a psychopath. What is there to her besides not wanting to be tied down to narrow gender roles and being a sadist? Nothing so far and I'm halfway through the manga.
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>>101892That didn't end up happening though? And I'm glad it didn't.
>>101895I dislike Charles too. Other than that, my criticism of the manga is that it comes too close too torture porn many times. The writer tries to tackle meaningful themes but it ends up lost in gore fests a lot.
No. 101897
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Constant circlejerking about how beautiful everyone is. I'm hate-reading at this point.
No. 101901
>>101615I started reading Innocent few years ago, but I was quickly put off by the dumb, overblown writing. The art is gorgeous obviously, but I wish the author got someone more skilled to do the script, because he fucking sucks at it.
Recently I took a peek at Rouge to see if maybe something improved, but nope, it's still shit. And Marie is annoying with her third person pronouns.
No. 102570
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Still hatereading Innocent Rogue
>pregnant 12 year old comes to executioner's side gig of medical practice
>oh no, baby is a product of rape
>its dad is bourgeois and mom is a noble whose family exchanged her for money, classic ye olde shit
>they miraculously save her life during labor by performing a c-section and somehow putting her back together
>but wait, there's more
>turns out they saved her life so they could execute her a couple weeks later
>turns out she killed her husband by accidentally pushing him down the stairs during an argument about how her blood is superior to his
>12-year-old pushed a grown man to his death
>ok
>teen mom cracks up laughing OTW to her own execution because "thank god the disgusting commoner's jizzum devil has been expelled from mine body!! rejoice!"
>they yeet her
>suddenly, rest of the executions are called off for the day because the king felt like pardoning folks
>rape victim classist weirdo teen mom died for nothing
I hate it here
No. 102579
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I started reading Kakukaku Shikajika, Way of the House Husband, and Bouquet for an Ugly Girl thanks to this thread and am so happy I did. I'm actually interested in reading more manga now.
Does anyone else feel genuine love for the art in the MP100 manga? I know ONE's art can be considered amateurish but the genuine sincerity it has is charming. That and it manages to get the characters' feelings across better at certain points than the anime does thanks to the roughness of it all. I find it REALLY funny that in the anime that the artists are admittedly horny for Reigen and purposely draw him hotter than the manga design for him implies, even accounting for the art's quality. Serizawa's non-NEET design changing so drastically between the manga, show, and OVA is also funny to me since after the final CLAW arc he looks decently consistent in the manga. I wonder if they're just trying to figure him out. Poor guy can't keep a face shape
No. 102592
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Samefagging to add, I was hoping this relationship would be developed, but noo.
No. 102593
>>102570damn i'm glad i found someone who hates it too, the storylines are so bizarre and edgy
not to mention the historical inaccuracy is off the charts
as a baguettefag it grinds my gears to see dumbass weebs who think they're history experts because they read that shit
No. 102595
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>>102570the fuck is this?
No. 102604
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>>102597i too hate it here
No. 102622
>>102611Come on, X/1999 is shit, but Kaori Yuki was never that bad.
If you want shitty Kaori Yuki ripoff for fujos, I recommend Baroque Chrysalis. As for other edgy stuff, Nakamura Asumiko, Lee Hyeon-Sook, Chiho Saito (but you probably know that one already), Yuu Higuri, Chronicles of the Grim Peddler and Horror Collector.
No. 102626
>>102622>Come on, X/1999 is shit, but Kaori Yuki was never that bad.I love X/1999 though I am aware it's not perfect. I wish we got a proper ending. Maybe once the Clamp ladies are dead and people are interested again in theor old work it will finally get published lol.
>Lee Hyeon-SookAhh, I love Flowers of Evil, read it like 10 years ago or so.
>Chiho SaitoOnly read Utena, any specific titles that I should check out?
Need to look into the rest of your recs.
No. 102644
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>>102611If you haven’t read anything by her yet, you’d probably like Maki Kusumoto manga. K no Souretsu is pretty fun
>>102622>Asumiko NakamuraAlso her, especially Copernicus no Kokyuu
No. 102651
>>102626anon please, you have the anime or film endings to choose from. meanwhile I'm a dumbass who got invested in the xxxHolic/TRC multiverse which is never going to end because they keep adding new series to it. They have been doing a lot of reboots the past decade so
maybe once CCS Clear Card is done X/1999 will get another chance? Their art style has changed so much tho, I don't think it could have the same vibe as it did in the 90s.
No. 102692
>>102651apparently the ending of X has already been drawn, it just wasn't published anywhere because Clamp refused to make any changes to it and the publisher thought it was too extreme or something.
The film/anime endings do not answer the question of what the fuck is going on with Kamui and his real wish. I've seen some pretty interesting analyses on tumblr in that regard, but I just want to know the actual ending of the goddamn story.
No. 102794
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>>102692Innocent Rogue being absolutely disgusting as usual
No. 102796
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smooth talker
No. 103289
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>>103274Marie Antoinette stole all their eyebrows.
No. 103291
Glad to see Innocent discussed here, I have a lot of conflicting thoughts about the series. I was originally drawn in for the gothic Rose of Versailles take on the Sanson family (for some reasons I love reading stories about executionners), but the way it has turned out disappoint me so much, such a convoluted and overdramatic mess, and too much Marie wanking who is now just an edgelord who changes her opinions every few days. I'm following the official french publications, so I have no idea how it's going to end, but I'm probably going to be very disppointed, I'm mostly reading it out of habit and love for the original manga and Kokou no Hito. The video above here
>>102591 crushed my dreams, I really thought Sakamoto was just This Good at drawing lol.
>>102797I'm pretty sure Zero is male as well, I get vibes of "Marie wanted a girl and was disppointed to get a boy so she decided to troon him out". She's not even dressing him neutrally, he looks like a girl in all but name. If you look at IRL "gender neutral" kids, it's often boys who get this treatment because mommy would have preferred a girl. No. 103299
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>>102796>>102804>>103289Got excited because of the names… then I saw the images and realized Im surrounded by plebs itt.
Let me educate you with the GOAT french revolution manga (pic related)
No. 103300
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>>103299Now that is a manga where the art style made sure I could never get into it or take it seriously.
No. 103312
>>103291I agree with you on the Mary wanking part. For some reason everyone loves her, and I get that she can be cool at times, but she's just become an edgelord and the author seems to have a huge boner for her. Who's she even supposed to be? An OC? Is she based on a figure that really existed?
I loved Innocent when it started off with Charles, everything felt more in order and I appreciated showing the struggle of someone born to become an executioner despite a meek and peaceful personality.
No. 103317
>>103312The real Charles-Henri Sanson had a sister named Marie-Josèphe, but she's only been mentioned very briefly in the Sanson family records (I believe she married the executioner of Reims and that's it). The real Marie-Josèphe obviously never became an executioner (I don't think there were any female executioners in France even during modern times), so you could consider her Sakamoto's OC. I thought she was a pretty neat character in the beginning, but she got hit hard by bad characterization during Rouge, she changes her motivations every few chapters and her list of accomplishments became pretty ridiculous
and her trooning out her kid really left a bad taste in my mouth. I was obviously not expecting a 100% historically accurate and realistic interpretation of the Sanson side during the Revolution, but I would have honestly preferred if Charles-Henri had remained the protagonist.
No. 103387
>>103317Even the way she
had the kid was hilarious.
mounts infinifat retard husband "we're doing this!" and for
what exactly? I don't get why she decided to become a
mother No. 103391
>>103387God yes, that part kinda creeped me out
wasn't the guy mentally a child?. Sakamoto tried way too hard with the shocking situations in Rouge, the Révolution was already horrifying enough on its own, no need to add edgy imagery.
No. 103518
>>103513omfg…
Honestly I prefer the way non-bishie characters are drawn in this manga. They're more realistic and have unique faces instead of the copypaste doll face.
No. 103707
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in case you were wondering what's going on in innocentland, marie tied up her brother to… idk what end really.
No. 103713
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mister bean has entered the chat
No. 103726
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>>103707The artist just wanted to draw that, I suspect.
Don't forget that he was tortured by his father and grandma too. Then he does it to his son, continued the cycle fo abuse. I nearly quit the manga when it opened like this, only kept reading because someone with taste I respect recommended it to me.
No. 103852
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This manga is such a train wreck, I’m honestly mostly reading it because the mc is pretty cute and I got a few reaction images from it.
No. 103879
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>>103874Not that anon but for me it is the fact that everyone suffers and everyone gets fucked
Pic related, not the worst example, but it annoys me.
I feel like japanese people have a thing for suffering+sex. It's too seen on other manga to not be a fetish. The manga Emergence is a very big example, a scrote recommended it to me and I fell for the trap of reading it, I ended up crying the whole evening.
No. 103887
>>103886Read the Girl on the Shore, and there's no scenario, it really is just "two bored teenagers have sex", there's zero substance, and the sex is pretty hardcore, I've read tamer hentais. I've only read the first half of Punpun, but even at this point it was already misery porn and it was such a drag to read.
I really don't get people who shill Asano's mangas, every character is miserable and the setting is bleak, I usually like grimdark, but there's always a feeling of boredom that make the stories a chore to read (also he once said he wanted to be a girl and people jumped to "omg trans girl!!1") Apparently Solanin is good because it's not as dark as the aforementioned works, has anyone read it?
No. 103918
>>103917Glad you're waking up and ignoring gross scrote opinions of what is great d33p art.
I remember being new to manga and asking guys for recs of something that wasn't macho fanservice for men stuff, and getting…ecchi recs.
No. 103929
>>103915I feel like Punpun is so popular because it's "baby's first suffer porn manga". The fact that it starts relatively happy and just gets more bleak helps hook in people who are not used to reading things like these, in my opinion.
I read it as a teenager and it made me cry for days, it felt very relatable at the time and I was already depressed and looking for stories to make me feel like shit. As an adult I'm not sure I would have the same opinion, it's extremely bleak and if I remember right even Asano said that he was a in a really bad place when he made it and wouldn't write something like that nowadays.
No. 103933
>>103902> Look the men who will go awful lenghts to explain why some anime girl wearing skanky outfits is actually metacommentary for some shitYou mean Kill la Kill?
>Men love touting their gross wank material as d33p and complex masterpieces.Pretty much this! with everything. Always has been, always will be, has been a thing since the last century started and it doesn't seem like it will stop.
No. 103936
>>103917I'm so happy there's people who agree that people like Inio Asano a little bit too much too. I'm sorry to hear they call you stupid, usually people do that when you tell them you hate x popular author for whatever
valid reason.
>>103918Most shitty weeb men recommend shitty weeb manga. I hate when people recommend OPM, MHA Jojo or One Piece. It's just buff men living power fantasies. I think only certain men who are more into art could recommend better manga but honestly? Always ask women for recs.
No. 103951
>>103946Scroll up.
>>103944The difference between punpun and innocent is that innocent is actually entertaining. I went into innocent expecting to hate it because I hate torture porn, but in the end it was so absurdly ridiculous that I couldn't help but binge it.
Rouge, however, I would not recommend. No. 103960
>>103951>>103958Big, huge, massive disagree
I lumped Rouge with Innocent when I said it but I find both of them to be very boring and stupid. I just read them to find retarded scenes to post here.
There have been so many manga I've been recommended that turned out aimless and melodramatic like Innocent. I bet there's a pattern of mediocrity just like the coomer taste pattern men fall into.
No. 103986
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>>103964Honestly there is nothing I've read that I thought was legitimately non-boring. Berserk is my favorite and even that has so many boring chapters, weird/gross character dynamics and is unfinished therefore not something I would even recommend to anyone.
As an unrelated rec for those that like wholesome content this little manga called Ochibi-san by Moyoko Anno (yes the evangelion man's wife) is super nostalgic for me. I actually bought all the ebook volumes on amazon and archived them into PDF.
No. 104017
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>>104012This tbh. I personally think that's the main appeal of the manga aside from the art, especially when you have these moments of Marie Antoinette using social media as a metaphor to emphasize what was going on from her perspective (she was a teen after all).
These little details made me appreciate the story for what it is: completely over the top.
No. 104384
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What are your thoughts on Made in Abyss?
Completely ignoring the loli/shota pandering (which is something very hard to do), I find the caving concept extremely interesting and the body horror genuinely fucked up. If the mangaka wasn't such an overt pedo it would be a great manga.
No. 104427
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>>104384I kinda like it- or well, I would like to say I like it, but the extreme moral guilt I feel when reading it does not justify it.
The main characters are kinda cute and interesting, the woldbuilding is AMAZING and mesmerizing, the art is very detailed and good, the creatures are pokemon levels of engaging, and the story is an alright story.
But jesus fucking christ all of this is outweighted by the disgusting shit that happens in this manga. I've tried following it, and I still read the updates, but at times I felt so fucking disgusted (everything about Bondred or whatever his name is an example) that I felt like I was reading a fucked up fetish manga and wanted to throw up. I just don't know if I can still justify myself reading it, but man, it's still kinda engaging and good. But jesus christ it always makes me feel like a degenerate when I finish reading some sections.
The sad thing is that the anime is not that toned down compared to the manga, and the manga really does go places. So I can't even recommend that one, even though, shit, the worldbuilding is fucking great. I really don't know anymore, but as far as 2020 goes I haven't even touched it, don't want to give time to a misery porn-ish story. The guilt is strong in me. I don't know why or how can japanese people like seeing cute, innocent, and weak characters getting brutalized, traumatized, suffering, and having an overall shitty time. Even WORSE if they are literal kids.
As an example,
the whole story about Irumyuui (had to google the name). She was an indigenous kid from a small village near the abyss, she was deemed as "not fertile/not suited for pregnancy" or something like that, so she is deemed as unworthy for the village and is exiled as an offering to the abyss. Shit happens, and the group that she is traveling with gets sick to the point everyone is having diharrea (explicitly shown on the manga by the way) and dying. So more shit happens, and in the end, she gets granted a wish, which was "being able to give birth"(yikes). So every other day she woul give birth to a tiny small bunny-like mammal, who of course, would die and traumatize the girl, rinse and repeat. The group she was traveling with even start eating the bunnies and call her a savior. Well, even more shit happens, and she becomes a whole vessel and constantly gives birth. I don't know if I want to keep writting this, you get the idea. Pic related.Yikes what I just wrote made me feel even worse about this shit. I think I'm done with it. The bad outweights the good.
…Point is, if anyone here is interested in this manga or anime, just stop. Stop right there. Don't do it. It's better to left some things unseen.
No. 104433
>>104427>that spoilerholy shit, am I glad I immediately stopped reading this around the first scene of a bdsm punishment for a kid. What the fuck???
what even is that weeping orb on her, I have no idea what's going on in the picI can't wait till people realize they were roped into reading a pedo fetish fantasy all along. Yikes. Of course probably some fans are reading it for the pedo content, but I've seen a lot of reasonsble anime fans (ie nondegenerate women) praise this bs. Apparently series popularity turns off critical thinking in some people.
No. 104439
>>104433Anon I'm deeply sad to inform you that
the weeping orb is not an orb but the hole where her babies come from
>I can't wait till people realize they were roped into reading a pedo fetish fantasy all along. Yikes.This is exactly how I feel, I definetely feel something like that.
>I've seen a lot of reasonsble anime fans (ie nondegenerate women) praise this bs. Apparently series popularity turns off critical thinking in some people.This is the sad thing, anime fans who don't really interact with these hardcore fetishy things think you can turn a blind eye and just enjoy the story and the world inside it, but then it gets worse and worse and I swear to god it adds up.
No. 104459
>>104427Imagine making a child character from a village, and then making her whole backstory and personality about fertility and pregnancy. A child, whose theme is fucking pregnancy. And then you have her birth every day.
How do people not get that it's a fetish manga? There's so many instances where the characters (who are almost all children) are put into a sexual situation, or their genitals and intimate parts are the focus. I dropped this shit when the half android boy from the abyss or something was introduced and the other children began talking about his dick. It's disgusting. I can just imagine the author jacking off to his drawings of half naked and tortured/suffering children. How did this shit even get an anime?
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>>104459> I dropped this shit when the half android boy from the abyss or something was introduced and the other children began talking about his dick.This was a very big red flag that I was told to ignore because it was just "children being children" and I was dumb enough to believe it even though my brain was telling me something was seriously wrong. Seriously, don't ever listen to fans of this manga, they'll try to bring you down with their degeneracy and insist that these things are "normal".
Pic related is something that made me feel seriously sick to my core, NSFL.
Basically Reg the android boy gets captured and "experimented" on. This includes, for some fucking reason, putting a machine that sucks some kind of liquid out of his groin. Look at the way it is drawn with the blindfold and tell me this isn't some kind of fucking degenerate kink. This is seriously not okay.
No. 104491
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You know a manga is bad when even your degenerate friend tells you it's over the top. I don't want to post pics but the Tsugumomo manga author seriously likes to draw kiddie bodies it's fucking disgusting. Worse his art is very nice to look at if you look at the monsters, it's a shame how many author ruin their work by adding pedo shit… and I'm pretty sure he uses reference pics
No. 104500
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>>104384I don’t have much to add to this discussion, since I wholeheartedly agree with everyone saying this series is a thinly veiled fetish fodder, so I’m just going to leave an example of a typical galaxy brain pedo defending it.
No. 104502
>>104500It's because of people like this that works like Made in Abyss get so popular despite being porn for pedos with a bit of worldbuilding.
If a work includes abuse and violence, there's a huge difference when it's drawn by a person aroused by it and a person that just wants to depict it as part of a story or character. Even if you can't tell exactly what it is that makes it different, you can just feel it. Most of the time it's the way the chacarters are drawn, and the fact that most of the things they do revolves around sexual themes in one way or another, even when those themes shouldn't be there. The argument "this character looks like an 8 year old but is actually 200!!" is automatically invalid. These bastards are still attracted to the body of a child.
>>104489Of fucking course they experiment on him by putting a sucking machine around his genitals. Of course. That's the first thing a normal person would think about when thinking about ways someone would experiment on a child when making up this scene. Right. Blindfolded, no exams on other parts. Ffs.
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>>104384there's a reason why the MIA fandom is mostly male and why so many men trip over themselves to love and defend it.
No. 104523
>>104512See these posts:
>>104427>>104489It would be bad enough if these were the only two instances of unsettling things happening but there are WAY more and nudity is NOT the only problem. The anime does seem to be toned down compared to the manga, but I can’t say that for sure, as I dropped it pretty early on.
The people defending Made in Abyss dismiss people who are uncomfortable with it as pearl-clutching prudes who can’t deal with children getting hurt in fictional scenario. But the point is not depiction of children‘s suffering being inherently wrong, but rather how it’s depicted. This may be a really random example, but there’s an old Russian movie called “Dead man’s letters” in which the main character sees a hospital ward full of children dying from radiation poisoning and it’s completely harrowing but at no point are they shown shitting and pissing themselves, with their skin peeling away, as kids in Made in Abyss would be, in great detail. Showing violence and suffering sparingly or in understated way can sometimes hit much harder than full on explicit gorefest when it comes to visual media.
Tsukushi goes way beyond showcasing themes with the levels of graphic detail he inserts into scenes of children having bad time. And maybe I am being biased but he does seem to relish in it. Like, is showing a sucking device attached to underage character’s dick front and center really necessary? How can anyone fucking defend this? Jfc
No. 104527
>>104523Ima, Sokoni Iru Boku was an early example of a war drama where most of the characters are children suffering terribly. And yet nobody was offended or considered the series a pedo's wet dream. Too bad that nobody remembers it, it's a good example of what MiA is supposed to be according to those retards.
I remember Narutaru being infamous years back for presenting violence against children (or rather young teenagers) as well as some sexual scenes, but none of that felt fetishy to me as well, just twisted and uncomfortable (but in an intended way). YMMV though. None of the content was as sick as any of those scenes in MiA.
No. 104528
>>104523Samefag, because the above essay was apparently not enough for me lmao.
I also find it super disturbing that this guy
>>104500 justifies random sexualization of children as “funny“ and “a bit awkward”. Iirc, there’s a scene where Riko mentions Reg’s dick and another little girl asks her if it’s like her “Papa’s rod” (yes, exactly what you’re thinking of) and it’s played off as a joke. Like, if that’s the kind of humor that appeals to you, I’d be happy to throw you off a cliff myself.
No. 104580
>>104525I've never actually read any article covering this, but
>>104523 and
>>104527 are some examples. It would be nice to analyse this phenomenon.
No. 104590
I'm glad you're all talking about this because when I heard about Made in Abyss when the anime started I had an employee I usually trust at a bookstore/comic store telling me that the manga is a masterpiece and a personal favorite. I'm glad I didn't listen to him and buy the first volumes back then, it seems like it's even worse than I thought.
>>104525I never read or watched Made in Abyss but usually when I see that difference it's because of the amount of details between what's fetishized and the rest of the artwork. I don't know which examples I could give but I've seen many artists on twitter post comics about it after their TL were flooded with fetish art that looks completely SFW if you're not used to this type of shit to explain it.
No. 104627
>>104580The way to make the distinction between fetishization and the creator processing their own darkness/trauma is usually found in the framing.
Let's take a rape scene for instance.
Is the rape scene showing the
victim sprawled in a pinup-y way and blushing? Where is the camera lingering? Are we seeing her nude body shown delicately or flushed and soft, etc? If shit like that is shown it's a fetishy scene. The same scene can be framed properly by showing the
victim's face in a close up to focus on her pain, not showing the nudity in a soft or appealing way, etc. Joan's rape scene in Mad Men is a good example, there is nothing sexy about it at all, you're there with
her and you're being victimized alongside her instead of spectating, peering from a distant or leering camera. I don't remember the show too well but Handmaid's Tale had similar scenes where the protagonist's suffering was what the scene was about and it was framed thusly too.
Who the camera is "with", and how it chooses to display other characters/acts is how visual mediums tell you what the film/comic/cartoon thinks about the subject. No matter what your text (script) says, if your camera is leering at the female character then she is not empowered. There are exceptions of course, like in a film primarily on the female protag's side might have a section where the camera is "borrowed" by someone else's veiwpoint and you might shift the way she is framed for a bit but that is also for a very specific purpose.
Always pay atteniton to how the director/artist chose to frame a scene. It says far more about what they think about the topic than their retarded aftar-the-fact interviews.
I'm not sure about manga examples because I frankly don't read a lot of that due to how poorly they seem to tackle tough subjects.
No. 104645
>>103936Listen, many women would also recommend Jojo. Jjba is not just buff dudes, the stories of each jojo are wonderful and full of rich characteristics. The plots are fun and exciting to follow, no matter what your gender is.
Finally, jjba author doesn't shy away from making his characters (no matter how strong or macho they are) show vulnerability, poses and dress them in feminine clothes etc.
I know I didn't read it any sooner because I thought the same as you, I was dead wrong. It is actually a wonderful journey with meaningful lessons to learn with each jojo
No. 104865
>>103936I haven't read it in a while, but what's exactly wrong with One Piece? It's full of buff dudes, but there are tons of women as well (yeah, I know Oda can draw like only six female faces) and the plot is complex enough.
As far as I can tell neither OP or OPM take themselves very seriously (but I didn't read OPM much). Dunno about MHA, never touched it.
No. 104889
>>104802This is exactly how I feel about most shonen and popular anime.
I hate opm, I hate one piece, I hate dragon ball, I hate jojo. If a man loves it it's probably shit.
I just hate all manga that "anime fan" scrotes might like. Literally fuck all of them, I see them on conventions and online all the time and they're the fucking annoying to deal with.
You know the type. They dress in anime shirts and have those over the shoulder backpacks. They probably play smash bros and wear glasses, they might vape too. They have watch a bunch of ecchi anime and read hentai manga. They think they know better than you, they think they're the ultimate anime fan. They gatekeep shit. But ask them about their favorite anime and they all like the most tasteless, boring, normie shit ever. "Oh I love My hero academia" yeah I know, you look like you do. And they think they're so smart and smug because they have anime icons and watch anime meme compilations on youtube.
I rather have smart women talking about their favorite anime to me than ugly scrote talking about his "superb taste" anyday.
No. 104898
>>104889All of this, kind anon. You could not have said it better.
Fuck shonen anime and fuck shitheads that think this is what they should recommend to literally anyone, no matter what is their taste, because apparently battle shonens are the pinacle of japanese entertainment and art
No. 104908
>>104898Exactly. The problem with these shit heads is that they treat anime as a whole genere instead of a medium to tell a story (aka, animation).
I'm instantly turned off by any stupid male power fantasy, anime or not. Thing is, anime is just, well, japanese animation. My taste is always the same, I seek well written female characters in movies, books, and even music. Why would I suddenly seek out "one of the greatest current year anime" which is probably just another male power fantasy just because a loud scrote and his friends recommend it?
The problem is that kind of anime is what sells mad cash. Trash. I feel like japanese animation rarely ever goes outside this norm. And even japanese directors and animators get frustrated about this, because they never get to explore their full artistic and storytelling potential. It has to always be the big tiddie anime girl and a strong determined anime guy.
No. 104911
>>104527Narutaru is still fetishistic though. I had my teen edgy times and I remember checking it out and wanting to throw up at the
rape of that one girl with the worms while screaming "I'm sorry". Jesus christ. It's on youtube. Not going to link it.The rest of the manga is even worse because
at the end the main protagonist fucks a dude with radiation poisoning, kills the whole world, and then has a teen pregnancy. Oh and she smojes while pregnant. Sounds pretty Nemu-esque in my opinion.I'm just tired of being sold disgusting freak shit as the pinnacle of good manga/anime. I regret getting influenced by anitubers, tv tropes and 4chan weeaboos so much.
Just try to stay away from anything that looks too edgy because it is probably fucked up.
No. 104919
>>104914That's why I really liked:
>>89828this manga to be honest
No. 105025
>>105010Shonen manga like BnHA, Naruto, Bleach, OP etc. are written for a target audience of teenage boys, galaxy brain. I've never seen a female-oriented power fantasy tbh. Sailor Moon would be probably the closest example.
>If it doesn't exclude women it's not a male power fantasy, it's just a power fantasy that some women aren't intoNo, it's still a male power fantasy that some women enjoy regardless of not being the target audience.
No. 105046
>>104924agreed. the torture was meant to mirror the way the girl had tortured another girl (the girl who controlled the monster/“dragon”)
which aki and her group had done by forcing her to eat worms and sodomizing her with a test tube, hence the claw rape and wormswhile i don’t think that scene in particular seemed fetishistic, just gross and unsettling like you said, the work itself tells me the creator is royally fucked in the head and may have enjoyed some elements the audience is meant to be squicked by.
No. 105052
>>105026>>104802When and if women are included in mangas made by men, they're either there as trofies, plot devices, to be the female love interest to the male lead and for fanservice. When a woman is a protagonist, she's very sexualized and I've noticed that many authors (this happens in movies too) go down the lesbian road, which unfortunately is obviously a fetish thing.
Men just really like to full every piece of media they do with their fetishes and sexual preferences. It's like they can't make a story without their dicks, and it always comes off as disgusting.
For some reason when a woman does it it doesn't feel as bad, though it might an impression I have. For example, Adekan (which I love) is full of fanservice, but it doesn't feel gross, just nice to see and kinda funny.
No. 105055
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I'm really not that into anime and manga anymore. I used to be really into both and read and watched so many things but now current trends are shit, the most popular series now don't seem interesting or unique at all to me, fanservice is way too over the top and I'm saying this as someone who grew up reading Love Hina. I remember reading Bastard when I was in high school and being shocked that this was published in the Shonen Jump back then but not anymore. Some of the manga I was really into are either updated really slowly like Black Butler and many BL series or they're on indefinite hiatus like Nana. The only things I read now from time to time are BL one-shots because they're short and stupid but in a good way.
I had a lot of manga I sold at some point to make more space and get more money and I regretted it at the time, but now I regret buying so many books to begin with as well as merchandises. I'm going to sell more from my collection. Reading so many series was really fun at the time but I don't have the patience for this anymore and whenever friends recommend me recent series like Kimetsu no Yaiba or My hero academia I get annoyed. Getting old and jaded and participating in fandoms in my teenage years to compensate for my lack of social life irl really ruined this hobby for me.
No. 105059
>>105025Japan has an ass-backwards view on gender and they think if something has battle in it it's for males. Does not mean a western viewer has to pidgeonhole themselves into Japanese ideas of what genders ought to enjoy.
Also think some of you read what I wrote with your eyes closed. I specifically mention stories that don't flesh out their women are inherently exclusionary of women therefore male power fantasies. I'd put Naruto in the male-centric pile, you can go check the Naruto threads for why.
No. 105062
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Do any of you guys have recomendations where the mc gets reincartinated as the villianess of the story? Im currently reading pic related and im also reading Beware of the Villainess! Which i know is not a manga, i dont mind what kind of comic it is aslong if the story and art is good.
>>105056I thought Citrus was written by a man?
No. 105063
>>105059>not enjoying battle shonens =/= being a slave to gender rolesYou are not revolutionary or special for being a woman loving male-audienced manga.
What are the 'good' examples that you are thinking of?
Anyway enjoy your shitty male-centric manga, just don't pretend it's some misjudged Holy Grail of Equality. You are trying too hard to justify your interests. It's like claiming that galge represent genderneutral fantasy of romance/pov even though the writing is male-centric, the pov is male and you are exclusively banging sad and hot chicks (oh, but it can't be a male fantasy since I enjoy that the hero is helping out the heroines pick up their shit mental health and they are really well written, I swear!!!)
No. 105065
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>>105062They are both manhwas and it's a rewind time plot rather than reincarnation but: The Villainess Reverses the Hourglass and The Villainess Lives Twice
Alternatively: Death Is The Only Ending For The Villainess
No. 105074
>>105062Survive as The Hero's Wife and Who Made Me a Princess are both manwhas but good
Also you might be interested in this post. I know it's Reddit but it compiles several villainess LN/manga including several manwha recommendations
https://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/azo3gg/can_you_help_me_find_these_otome_game_based_manga/ No. 105078
>>105062I read Virtues of the Villainess and Common Sense of the Duke's Daughter, and I'm currently going through Fallen Princess on Webtoon. Common Sense… is probably the most realistic take on the genre so far, but I got a bit bored with it.
Virtues… and Fallen Princess are not strictly formula, since the heroine of Virtues… discovers she's the villain of the book and tries to avert the ending, while Fallen Princess is less meta and has freaky Friday plot between seemingly stereotypical "dark haired ojou villainess" and "blonde innocent heroine".
I can't get over the fact that to make an industrious shoujo main character with her own agency, the mangaka has to literally introduce a villainess and then subvert it with an isekai plot. It's pretty depressing.
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>>105059>stories that don't flesh out their women are inherently exclusionary of women therefore male power fantasiesYou just described Gantz and it frustrates me so much because the whole concept, art and fights are really good, but almost every female character in it are the embodiment of one-dimensional fanservice.
Also Kurono is the shittiest mc ever, and that ending was a complete dissapointment.
No. 105118
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>>105113If you don't want to bother yourself with Gantz there's Inuyashiki from the same author. It has a cool concept, amazing art, mc is a wholesome 50 y/o man and while there's barely any relevant female characters, at least fanservice is non existent as far as i can remember. Don't expect a great ending though.
No. 105181
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Even with “feminist” “empowering” manga written by women, the bar is on the fucking ground and it makes me feel bad for Japanese women if this is their idea of female liberation.
Case in point: Rose of Versailles. Oscar is sexually assaulted by multiple male characters that you’re supposed to like by the end of the story (including her ~tragic~ love interest whose only actual inconvenience in life is her not sucking his dick), and her needing a man to quell her hysterical woman emotions is constantly pushed as well.
Don’t even get me started on people who call it “sapphic representation” either because lesbianism is treated as a childish phase at best and the creator has only teased the possibility of Oscar liking women for marketing purposes (see that shitty otome game).
No. 105224
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>>105198The only manga I can think of are those from the Touhou series and potentially Revue Starlight. Madoka has some combat in it as well.
Blood+ has a female protagonist but she mostly just fights vampires.
Ga Rei: Zero is an anime prequel to the Ga Rei manga series and is very good and has a female friendship/rivalry. If you accept it as a self-contained series and don't attempt to read the actual manga it is pretty good.
No. 105250
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>>105198I know this is the manga thread, but the anime Seirei no Moribito (based on a light novel series) is too good not to recommend for this. There isn't a ton of combat but when it happens, it's really intense. The lead character is a female bodyguard in her 30s (fucking iconic) and it's pretty realistic. She's not some superpowered god. In one instance where she has to fight multiple people she barely survives by the skin of her teeth. Wonderful show with beautiful animation.
For actual manga I'd say Claymore or Angelic Layer. The latter is basically about battle dolls but it's not sexual (by Clamp) and many of their "owners" are female too.
No. 105260
>>105183Progressive for 70s Japan, maybe, but that really isn’t saying much and it’s always westerners in the present who I see praising it for supposedly being woke.
It’s frustrating because there were parts of it that I really loved (even from a feminist standpoint) but others aged very badly to the point where I can’t recommend it to people.
No. 105261
>>105181>>105260Feminists are weird.
They often praise some low quality scraps thrown for them or see feminism in a obvious fetish of the creator.
No. 105264
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WRT Touhou manga: it's been years but I remember really liking Silent Sinner in Blue. I don't know how much sense it would make to an outsider/newbie to the series, but if you liked LoLK or IN it's a nice read. I wish canon touched on the Lunarians more, because they're very interesting (and fucked up).
The other official manga I found boring (or cringey in the Inaba manga's case) and dropped after a while tbh.
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>>104934same. can't wait for part 6 to be animated.
No. 105312
>>105303guess i'll go to pickme hell for liking funky ghosts and muscle lmao
blame stardust crusaders for giving jojo that reputation though. most of the fights past part 4 are more about resolve/outsmarting the enemy than male power fantasy, and that's the main reason why i love stone ocean and steel ball run. jolyne's stand relies purely in how it's used, and johnny has to master the spin otherwise he will never be able to walk again.
personally i find them a lot more exciting than star platinum who is overpowered from the start.
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>>105409nayrt but I like Josuke and Okuyasu's friendship. They're the jojo equivalent of Timon and Pumbaa.
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>>105429I love them, I ship them so hard but not because I'm perverted (at least when it comes to this). It's just so rare to see a relationship that starts with a super close friendship in hardly any media, and they're really wholesome. But I agree, they're also dumb and hilarious. There were so many feels when Josuke was
crying over Oku "dying" before he decided to come back.
No. 105463
>>105430This is why as a female I love jojo. Araki wasn't afraid to show male vulnerability/genuine emotions that contradicts society's general idea of masculinity.
They feel more like humans and less "masculine males fantasy power battles" that shounen heros fall into.
Araki could have written some female characters better though, but that didn't take away from my enjoyment of the series (especially part 6, since most of the cast are females)
No. 107101
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If anyone can recommend me manga about young depressed salarymen or office ladies having a shitty, boring life or going through funny stuff then go for it. And don't recommend me wotakoi, I found it boring and bland as fuck, and Fujoshi Rumi did the same thing infinitely better. I think Aggrestuko is a good comparison to what I want to read and watch these days but I've only watched the first season and I don't know if it gets very different later on. I'm sick of reading stories about teenagers doing cool or unrealistic fantasy shit that have 500 chapters and I'm liking reading BL manga about salarymen more and more these days.
No. 107122
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Any recs for something similar to Unlucky Mansion? I really like how rude the characters are, how the protagonist is frank and assertive, and how the characters aren't high schoolers. It's at times silly but also mature. Enemies-to-lovers is a cute trope, that is definitely welcome. No doormat character in the main couple, I don't wanna read about a shy maiden or whatever. Thanks in advance!
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>>107101Maybe Nomiya Keibuho wa Yurusanai? It's about a lady that starts working for the special support room which deals with cases inside of the police force. Her coworker puts up a professional front, but is actually pretty immature, it's very funny lmao
Uramichi Oniisan which is about a depressed guy who's starring in a children's show. It's not really about an office, but the main characters are all in their mid twenties to thirties. You might've seen memes about it
Mr Nietzsche in the convenience store is also very good. It's just about the people working in the store, but there's a new stone-faced part timer that is the source of a lot of the comedy. Pic related
Also, have you read any of Niyamas BL already? I love how she draws older men, Mujaki na Wanko to Nekokaburi is so good it's unreal
No. 107154
>>107101>>107129Seconding Uramichi Oniisan and Nietzche-sensei. The latter has a short live action as well but it's absolutely not worth watching. It's a running joke in the manga that the main character likes middle-aged men, but for the live action they decided to make him a fucking lolicon instead, including at least one scene with an actual child (I stopped watching after episode 2). Because Japan, where pedophilia is more acceptable than anything a little bit gay.
Not depressing but if you're into food stuff Wakakozake and Midnight Diner both have a more adult atmosphere.
Think it got mentioned earlier in the thread but She Doesn't Know Why She Lives is another one, though she's not really an office lady.
No. 107169
>>107154Thanks, I'm also starting Wakakozake, it's simple but very comfy. Makes me want to eat out at restaurants in Tokyo again, now that I'm back in my country eating alone at restaurants on a whim is seen as super weird here so it's just not the same. I also checked She Doesn't Know Why She Lives but it seems to heavy for me right now. I think I need to read things that are putting me in a better mood before reading that one, that one hits a bit too close home.
>The latter has a short live action as well but it's absolutely not worth watchingLike 99.999999% of jdrama for TV lol. I can't deal with the shitty acting, it's like they only care about making decent movies and never give a shit about TV. I'll check the manga though.
No. 107172
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Is Re:Zero’s novel worth reading?
No. 107182
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I've been reading Dead Dead Demon's DeDeDeDe Destruction by Inio Asano. It's about two high school girls (though they graduate pretty quick) and them dealing with the looming threat of a spaceship that's been above Tokyo for 3 years. It's mainly slice of life with a lot of the sci-fi stuff happening in the background.
I've really been enjoying it. I haven't read any of this other works but I feel like without the sci-fi element I wouldn't be as into them.
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>>107182I love this manga, it’s somehow cozy but also really cool.
He’s the one who created Oyasumi PunPun, it has awesome art like dead demons dedededededestructuon, but I don’t know, the story was too sad to my liking.
>tfw no bunny suits to wear with my bff while hanging out. No. 108732
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thoughts on berserk? i know the gist of the story and like the art from a far, but hear it goes on frequent hiatus? i've been waiting to start it because of that (fucking hate when mangas are infrequent) but honestly want to read it so bad. should i just start it and deal with the bad release schedules?
No. 108743
>>108732I think it’s essential to understanding anime culture because multiple series have paid homage to it.
I recommend not reading it, but watching the movies->animated series. The manga is beautiful but you will be blue balled and I wouldn’t wish that on my worse enemies
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>>108732Berserk Hiatus chart up to May, 2020.
I think Miura published like two chapters recently but that's it.
No. 108767
>>108732I think now is one of the best time to start Berserk, they are not on the boat anymore and there have been some interesting developments in the latest chapters. At least read it for the art and the characters, it's worth it just for that.
>>108749Common theory is that Miura is a perfectionist when it comes to art and he is unfortunately not getting any younger, so it takes him several months to finish one chapter. I really don't like how private the manga industry is and how we almost never get information of the authors' health, like did we get any kind of closure on whatever happened with Ai Yazawa?
No. 108819
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>>108776Aqua/Aria is a slice of life about gondola rowers in a futuristic Mars, it's very laid back but it's one of my favourite series ever. The main characters are three teenagers and three young adults with mostly adult characters as supporting cast
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I started reading Showa Genroku Rakugo and it seems pretty cool, but I can’t believe how shitty the official English version looks. I had to double check to make sure the volume I downloaded wasn’t a scanlation, it makes me want to just watch the anime instead.
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>>108856Another one, there are a bunch of pages like this.
No. 108873
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>>108856The anime is absolutely gorgeous visually, the voice acting is great and the OST is too, you wouldn't be missing out watching it instead tbh. I would be rewatching it regularly if the ending didn't fill me with rage every time I remember it but it's 11/10 until that point.
No. 109148
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I tried reading most of these "reincarnated as an otome game villain" stories, because I like the concept. but they always end up being reverse harem or a regular friendship manga with no romance.
The only manga of this genre that I like - for now, since it's only 8 chapters- is The Daughter of the Albert House Wishes for Ruin.
I like the character of the villain, and there's actually some hints of romance between her and the butler. Also, not all the guys are head over heels for her.
It's good for now.
No. 109440
>>109148i feel the same way about reverse harems, they're usually so boring. it just makes the main romance feel less special when there's like six other ikemen simping for the FL.
I haven't read the one you linked but I'll look into it! it's too bad it's only 8 chapters, hate to see when good mangas have slow scanlations. I have a few recs for non harem otome inspired mangas if you ever wanna check them out! some are better than others obviously but these ones butter my biscuit and deliver good stories in addition to romance. they are all either completed or have over 50 chapters and ongoing. The ML's range from manly stoic dudes to gentle and kind. Also some aren't pure reincarnation otomes, but they have otome like elements and protags.
Beware the Villainess
Bring the Love
Because I'm a Villainess I'm going to Keep the Last Boss!
Why are you doing this Duke?
The Evil Lady's Hero
As You Wish, My Prince
No. 111960
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Beastars ended… A lot of people are upset about the ending but I’m not too miffed about it. It does feel like a whole lot of build up for nothing but I’m just happy thinking that maybe these dang kids can just live a somewhat normal and peaceful life from here on out after all the shit they’ve gone through…
No. 111964
>>111960I’m just always glad whenever a shonen manga ends, I don’t want to see another monster like one piece brewing with unnecessary filler and seemingly unending arcs for random characters.
I feel like the ending was nice, it felt a tiny bit rushed but not too much? I don’t know at what extent it would have been necessary to have long ass individual explanations of what happened to each character and how they felt.
No. 111977
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>>111967I have good news for you anon
The LN has been licensed in English as well
https://mangadex.org/title/48912/i-favor-the-villainess No. 111994
>>111977Ooh thank you anon!!!
>>109148I ended up reading this one and the "villainess" and her butler LI are cute but I also want her to end up with the protag lol
No. 112445
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Was I the only one who couldn't really relate to O maidens in your savage season? I know that, when the anime first aired, lots of male anitubers were praising it, but after reading the first volume of the manga, I just didn't 'get it'. I thought it may be because it was written by a man, but it wasn't. Though this is coming from a person who's never been in a relationship before
No. 112554
>>112445Mari okada is famous for writing stories about teens coming of age. She tends to nail the first part of the story and then completely fucks it up towards the end climax.
Even with relationship experience, this manga was complete fucking shit. Without spoiling more it’s a lot of “hey isn’t this shocking?” Moments with no fucking reason.
No. 112706
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New Berserk chapter dropped, and it's one of the most insane we've had in a while. The art is breathtaking, new interrogations are surfacing, but we are pretty much getting confirmed a decades old theory in all but name. Damnit, it's going to be harder than usual to wait for the next chapter.
No. 112712
>>112445Samefagging but I hate O maidens in their savage season, it feels as if a male with a very slight grasp of what women's sexuality feels like wrote it, and to be frank, even if Mari Okada wrote it she must be retarded because it just feels like teenage boy pandering, as if they had a look into a "secret life of girls" that truly does not exist, it's vouyerism
Umibe no Onnanoko, even if it's written by a male, felt slightly more realistic than this,
just slightly. I preffer My lesbian experiences with loneliness waaaaaaaaay better
No. 112840
>>112712>My lesbian experiences with lonelinessThat's the shit.
I wish there were more autobiographical mangas by female mangakas that get famous in the west.
Her stuff is so raw and real.
I also wish there were more manga about girls hitting puberty that hit on the awful aspects of female puberty like PMS, the awful pain of your periods, how shitty pain pills and birth control makes you feel, the body dysphoria that a lot of girls get when their body fat placement changes/increases.
There's nothing cute at all in the female coming of age experience.
No. 112856
>>112840Thissss. I agree with everything you said.
>I also wish there were more manga about girls hitting puberty that hit on the awful aspects of female puberty>There's nothing cute at all in the female coming of age experience.This is my exact problem with O maidens in your savage season, they advertise it as that kind of story but end up giving more attention to the males and having sex with them.
Just look at this shit. Who the fuck talks like this at this age, it feels like a fetish thing
No. 112866
>>112840>I also wish there were more manga about girls hitting puberty that hit on the awful aspects of female puberty like PMS, the awful pain of your periods, how shitty pain pills and birth control makes you feel, the body dysphoria that a lot of girls get when their body fat placement changes/increases. There's nothing cute at all in the female coming of age experience.
There really isn't. I wish there was an anime like this for girls that was 0% moe and more realistic or maybe horror like.
No. 112868
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>>112865Yeah exactly. That train gropping scene is like
>blonde girl (who btw has sex with her teacher or something) asks guy to grope her (the guy has a train crowd fetish, can't remember the name fo that shit)>guy touches her ass>they both get out and the girl is like "why don't you practice having sex with me">guy says no because he wants to do it with the childhood friend he likes (basically hoes=bad, pure maidens=good, in the scrote way)>girl gets super disappointed to the point of crying>girl tells him "but you got hard thinking about it didn't you :^)"Seriously. Who the fuck does this.
As for their age, I'm not sure. I tried googling and nothing came out.
No. 112874
>>112868To add insult to perjury, train gropping is the biggest problem regarding using the train as a woman in Japan. If it happens to you, you better not make a scene, because making a scene is look down upon in japanese society. This is why they have separate women-only carts.
Video related is another one that pisses me off.
>Girl who is repulsed by sex breaks her hymen in gym class>Immediately is in pain, and she's laughed at (and I get the feeling it's supposed to be comedic, but I couldn't find it funny at all)>Goes running to the bathroom, but doesn't know how to check herself (again supposed to be funny, I would be fucking scared in that situation)>Nothing about the hymen bleeding, she's fine just minutes after>Forget about everything, here comes a dumb scrote to flirt with her>Well of course, she's ugly with glasses, and a ~super beautiful girl~ when she takes them out>Dumb himbo scrote calls her beautiful and she blushes, she wants him to go away but he's like "haha cool it's like we're flirting :)">Girl runs like she didn't break her hymen seconds beforegod.
No. 112880
>>112879samefagging
>worked on horou musuko (wandering son) as script and series compositionA-anon…
No. 112895
>>112879So she didn't have friends growing up. That explains so much. Her work feels like some friendless teenager's fantasy of what friendships are like.
>>112880>She tried to change her image in middle school, but one day her friends told her: “Stop trying so hard to be someone you're not.” She felt outed, as if her entire identity had crumbled, and from then on she stopped attending school.kek
No. 112899
>>112898Maybe the mother is on the lower side of short and Okada is on the higher side of tall.
You are seriously acting like radfems.
No. 112900
>>112895>>112898holy shit mari okada is a milky troon cow confirmed
>>112899>You are seriously acting like radfems.kek and?
>>112897Even if it isn't meant to be ""realistic"" it's still shit
No. 112901
>>112898Imagine your overly sensitive shut-in child who is stronger than you restraining you (what does that even entail? hitting? what)
seriously what the fuck
No. 112909
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>>112840>>112856>>112859>>112862>>112866oshiete galko-chan sorta covered that topic. I haven't read the manga but I've watched the anime but and it was mediocre, and sometimes felt like it was written by a man, but I sorta like the fact that it covers topics like period and other bathroom talk and the relationship between galko and otako, especially in the final episode, is kinda cute. I also hate how 99% of the promotional material is just galko's breasts. I remember loads of male anitubers praising this too. I think it's because most anitubers are either low-key incels or have no real exposure to what women experience, so when they get a glimpse of it, even if it's a glimpse that's incorrect, they praise it to high heaven
No. 113274
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any anons read Banana Fish? I'm on vol 11 of 19 and I really can't tell if I like it or not. I feel like I'm just waiting for it to get good. I kind of enjoy the art style and find the "mysterious drug and gang rivalry" aspect to be entertaining enough, but Ash on his own is too much of a Mary Sue to be compelling. Also if any anons have seen the anime, would you recc?
No. 113306
>>113274>>113285Ash certainly has a bit of gary stu-ism. He's a guy with insanely high IQ that gets kidnapped just for his genius, he's an extremely good manipulator and plays every adult around him (he's 17), and on top of this is a great at combat and shooting, and takes out whole maffias Rambo-style. Oh, and should I not forget, super hacker and businessman. But it's all OK, because he gets sexually abused, a lot, because he's just that beautiful.
I finished this in anime form when it was airing, so I don't know how much it differs from the manga. It was fine, but it drags out waaaaay too long, there are some really "suspend your belief" moments with Ash, the trauma-porn can be a bit tiring, japanese guy is useless and never gets better. I'd not rewatch it, but if you're invested in Ash and his journey to escape his past, then you can probably ride it out.
No. 113379
>>113306 This. Ash is great until they pull that 400+ IQ super-hacker crap. Completely ruins the "from the streets" vibe of the show.
I would argue that the political aspect in the show is really good. Also, I heard manga fans claim that the books expand on this aspect better, so if you like political dramas then you should continue reading.
No. 114260
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I read this manga, and I want you all to know about it. It's a comedy/romance story about a hero and a villain in love, and how they hide their relationship from everyone and try to meet up during fights. It's called Love After World Domination.
No. 115804
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Hi I read a manga but I can't remember the name or anything. It was a dumb comedy romance manga about an assassin boy who is really overpowered and has to kill this rich girl but falls in love with her the second he sees her. So he stalks her and then becomes her bodyguard and whatever. It wasn't long because it's still ongoing. The characters looked sort of like this. It was just some random not well known manga but I hope someone might know it anyway. The art and the story were nothing special but the romance was cute and the gags were funny.
No. 115856
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>>115804was it this? i dont read spy/family but your drawings remind me of them
No. 115996
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>>115804>>115804this one? It only has 5 chapters. Fluctuations of Hitman S
No. 116360
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>>116287I'd like more recs on this as well, but I enjoyed Tramps Like Us (also known as Kimi wa Petto). It made for a cute live action show too. Confident but down on her luck businesswoman unofficially adopts a homeless young man and makes him her "pet." Despite how that sounds it's not sexual (though there is romantic tension), it's more about how they grow to know one another and each other's struggles, how they negotiate power dynamics, come to terms with their families and lives, all while helping each other become better and healthier people. I found it satisfying and wholesome while still touching on those more mature, grown woman navigating her life themes.
No. 116397
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>>116360Fuck, kimi wa petto was such a good story but then they had to turn badass boss bitch sumire into your usual "uwu what is love" protagonist and I was utterly disappointed. Still a fun read though.
I have 2 recs. First one is Fushigi no Kuni no bird. It's about an Scottish woman (well known for being an adventurer and writing books about her travels) who decides to travel to Japan during the 1800's. She hires a translator and starts her journey to Hokkaido where she wishes to learn more about the Ainus. What I really liked it's how Isabella has to learn to actually accept and understand other people's cultures, and also how the early Westernization of Japan had it's issues. It's based on a book called unbeaten tracks in Japan.
The other one it's Savior's BOOKCAFE, not an amazing story but it has its charm. 30 years old lady get's isekai'd and it's expected to be a savior, but because she's older she's not exactly thrilled and instead tries to live a calm, secluded life and open a book cafe.
No. 116400
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Is anyone else reading Chi No Wadachi? It's a very slow, dark psychological story about a kid in a bad home situation but I can't decide if the slow pace makes it more mature or just makes it feel boring and fake deep.
It's not a spoiler to say that half of every chapter is just the main character making this face.
>>116397These seem really good anon, thank you. I didn't realise how much I wanted am older female isekai story until now, I usually hate isekai.
No. 116407
>>116400i'm kind of nervous that
fukishii is gonna end up turning out like seichi's mom. i'm not all caught up though so hopefully i'm wrong.
No. 116505
>>116432Nayrt and I agree.
I'm not sure exactly what's happening in the last chapter but
the author is really effective at creating an awkward feeling when he shows the disabled cousin Shige. I'm dreading something awful will happen and the MC will get the blame, I hate the slow motion car crash feeling of the two of them together with no safe adult supervision. My completely baseless theory that two boys are half brothers because these kinds of manga are always like that, and maybe the mom originally threw the MC because she wanted the other one. No. 116876
>>116400>slow pace makes it more mature or just makes it feel boring and fake deep.I'm saying fake deep. The author always writes good beginnings but like his other shit: inside mari, flowers of evil, etc it just falls flat and stupid.
All the interactions in the mangas come off as super awkward, which I attributed to it being ~Japanese Culture~ but maybe the author is fucking autismo and genuinely can't portray normal human interaction
No. 117425
>>117370My relationship dramas in primary school weren't love triangle, they were more like
>you stole my bff I hate you>why did you invite that person but not me for your birthday part (or the reverse)>why are you ignoring our other friend? now things are awkwardIt's just so over the top in CCS. And then the characters in Sugar Sugar Rune are like 10yo but they legit talk like they're in their mid-life crisis.
No. 117430
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Speaking of Chi no Wadachi, Oshimi’s (relatively?) new manga Okaeri Alice is about a love triangle between former childhood friends - now teenagers who are now having to face the consequences of their fallout. In particular, You is forced to choose between Mitani, a kind girl who he longed for, and Kei, his male friend who now identifies/dresses as a woman in order to attract You. Reading it makes me feeling so much dread and discomfort as it’s a manga where you can tell that it’ll end horribly for all parties involved.
No. 117443
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>>117430>Reading it makes me feeling so much dread and discomfort as it’s a manga where you can tell that it’ll end horribly for all parties involvedI'm so hyped, can't wait to experience the schadenfreude from start to finish
No. 117532
>>117430>The face of that girl(?) characterNothing good will come from that character and I hate it
Ok anon you've baited me, I'll be reading that now too
No. 117622
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>>117430I was excited to see Oshimi started a new manga but wow this sucks so far. Just sexual harassment from an unlikeable character. Hopefully, it gets better somehow but we'll see.
No. 117653
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anyone else reading Boy's Abyss? I have mixed feelings
No. 117673
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I read all the chapters out so far for Heresy, and I love it, there isn't much romance if at all, no annoying depictions of both genders and great art. Highly recc tbh
No. 117730
>>117653Thanks for introducing me to this hot mess.
The series is a car wreck waiting to happen, it’s exactly like flowers of evil except the art is better and EVERYONE is batshit insane.
What are your mixed feelings about?
No. 119104
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Does anyone read Witch Hat Atelier? The manga is so underrated and has one of the unique magic system in the series. The art also really gorgeous
No. 119236
>>119104I absolutely adore this manga! It's so beautiful and cozy that I don't even mind that the story is a little lackluster. Agathe is my favorite.
On a similar note, do any anons have other recommendations for comfy, non-coomer manga?
No. 119244
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Spoilers out. Despair, is always despair. Also, hiatus announced, Ichikawa got a PS5.
Merry christmas to all Houseki no Kuni readers.
No. 119649
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I just tried reading Sekine’s Love for the second time and I really like it. A while ago I read the first volume and couldn’t get into it, but it’s been a few years with shit happening and now I relate way too much with the main character’s problems.
No. 119770
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Sangatsu no Lion is a great series, I really recomend it for sure! it's like eating honey in the best way possible, at first it's a bit harsh but as you keep going things start to get better, its a super wholesome series if ya ever wanna take a break from intense series or emotionally draining series.
No. 120806
>>119770Definitely wouldn’t recommend for people who are sad or depressed though. The second arc and anime season will definitely(unironically)
trigger some folks
No. 120915
>>120913I read it only because it was short and I hated it so much, at its release people acted like it was the deepest and most emotional shit ever, when it's just two bored teenagers fucking to kill some time, it was so surface level, it was basically the porn version of 5cms by second (another very overrated anime). I tried reading Punpun but the misery porn was so boring, I can stand schlock only when it's in a fun edgy way like Berserk or WH40K, I feel like Asano was trying to say something like "see, life is so depressing amirite?" while completely failing because the situations were kinda ridiculous.
Also remember when Asano said something about wanting to be a girl for some reasons and all anitwitter went "omg transgirl"?
No. 121005
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Bibliomania has ended, everyone. I hope it gets translated, I want a physical copy of it.
No. 121008
>>120988yeah, I know the proof is just a comic that he drew, but I've learned that the defense never works with scrotes. You go all ham on "It's just a fictional narrative, don't confuse it with the author's life!!" feeling like a galaxy brain and years later you find out that the author really did groom/rape/cheat and the work was a confession thinly disguised as fiction.
Hello Jesse Lacey The chance of everything going on in that "burned out mangaka" comic of his being his actual shitty life is at least 70%.
No. 121165
>>121162I read a lot of Yuri and it's really hard finding stuff that isn't boring moe shit or porn. The best few I can think of on the top of my head (notice how none of them are set in high school): So, do you want to go out or?, Still Sick, Teiji Ni Agareta, Crescent Moon and Doughnuts, Cheerful Amnesia.
I much prefer korean or chinese webtoons when it comes to GL. Most are clearly made by women and are relatively down to earth. Ring my bell, What does the fox say and Fluttering Feelings are some of my faves
No. 121183
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Ojisama to neko: Recently widower GILF decides to adopt a cat to cope with the loneliness. Incredibly wholesome slice of life, super sweet.
When the villainess love: Isekai manhwa. Girl gets reincarnated as her fave character who is a villainess fated to die (but not really). Lots of misunderstandings ensue when she ~~fangirls over~~ befriends the other charas who think she's actually dying. Beautiful art and lots of husbando material, seriously. Crying Eugene is 10/10.
Sengoku Komachi Kurou Tan!: Weird premise but it's a fun read. Girl goes back to the Sengoku era and manages to become Nobunaga's underling. It's just her surviving and worrying about how much knowledge she should share to not fuck up with the present that much.
No. 121639
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I've been reading Reiwa Hanamaru Gakuen really quick it's fun and based
No. 124437
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>>124375Land of the Lustrous has a cool, stylized but minimalist look to it. The anime adaptation is good too if you're not against CG. I'm usually not a fan but I thought it was nice to look at and the story/characters are engaging.
No. 124438
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>>124434There's also The Girl from the Other Side. Has a very fairy tale-esque look and feel to it.
No. 124455
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>>121639This manga is hilarious and eye candy. Thank you so much for posting this.
also Yumekawa-chan is best guy No. 124655
>>119293>>119352>Or who has only read shit like BNHA all their life kekThis, Inside Mari by the same author was more unsettling.
>>124518That's edgy not traumatizing.
No. 126591
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I'm the samefag from the anime thread I catched up with Houseki no Kuni chapters why is the suffering
>also manga in hiatus
>the artist got a ps5
No. 126638
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I started reading 北北西に雲と往け ("Travel with the clouds to North North West" no idea if there's an English translation, it's available in French and German though), and it's super intriguing while also being a lot of fun to read. It's a crime story/coming of age story with some special (magic?) abilities sprinkled in set in Iceland.
No. 126687
>>126670Anon you look like someone I used to talk to on twitter, same taste
>reading shit that will depress youMeanwhile I only have wholesome stuff on my list except Adekan, really good anime potential imo
No. 126701
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Has anyone read I Tell C? It's a psychological manga with a Female Mc. Idk how to best describe it but it's like if Dexter didn't murder criminals but stalked/scared them into turning themselves in. I usually hate Yanderes but the MC's an interesting combo of Sherlock and Hannibal. All the chapters are free on mangaplus shueisha, its official eng publisher.
No. 126891
>>107172The WN yes (con: inconsistent updates)
The LN no
The anime
fuck no No. 127529
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Has anyone read the young black jack manga? I know nothing about it, but I'm tempted to read it because this piece of fan art is cute, as are some of the covers
No. 127538
>>126884Yes. In terms of being sexually disturbed, that variant of content only reoccurs in the manga maybe 4 more times (none of which involve animals thank god) and it reaches a satisfactory conclusion. I was fond of some characters but
>>126897 was right, it’s got a very overrated ending and is pretty messy in terms of storytelling. Messy does not mean sloppy though. The disparity between the two arcs is well done. Overall though I’d say Chainsaw Man’s development was an improvement in the likable characters department.
Spergfoil but I get the feeling Fujimoto’s works are going to become the “hidden gems” of manga in like 5 years and animanga fans collectively are going to pretend both of this scrote’s most popular stories are not the same self-indulgent protagonist who fall prey to the masochistic author’s own dominatrix fetish, and that this is a key underlying theme of both stories.
No. 130626
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>>130618I'm sorry you got memed into reading it. I think most people praising fujimoto's works are either kino/kafkaesque trolls from /tv/ or 14yo shounen babies.
I love it, and have been reading it every single week since 1st chapter. What I like about fuji's work is the paneling (he loves movies and it shows), the character designs (simple) and how he makes absurd characters and situations without falling into lolsorandom territory.
I don't think CSM is deep or very thought provoking, but isn't shallow either. Even if the plot and characters are the usual shonen drivel, the characters and their world feel real. No matter how absurd or dull the story is, if the characters feel real, with feelings and struggles, it's going to make an impact on the readers.
Anyway, just my 2 cents. Power best girl.
No. 130634
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>>130626>I don't think CSM is deep or very thought provoking, but isn't shallow either. Even if the plot and characters are the usual shonen drivel, the characters and their world feel real. No matter how absurd or dull the story is, if the characters feel real, with feelings and struggles, it's going to make an impact on the readers.Definitely agree with this. I enjoyed the mundane moments and dark humour. That ball kicking revenge competion, lol chef's kiss. I really enjoyed a lot of the minor and side characters too. Devastated about Aki and Power (at least we have some hope for her though, he really had the baddest of bad ends). Picrel had me cackling, guess I'm a child
No. 130737
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>>130690Anyway, there are also manga panels leaked and… well, that's it guys. Now i'm thinking about all those fan theories thay went to shit and it's funny
No. 130783
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>>130737I see that annoying author favourite Gabi is still alive. Like I said acid trip fanfic. Kudos to Isayama, got me rooting for mass death when he wanted me to go for the "uwu forgiveness is always the answer" route.
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>>130783Also let me guess: Mikasa kills her one true love to save the people who genocided them for like thousands of years and it's so beautiful, and tragique, and profound. Maybe Levi can marry Annie even though she crushed all of his comrade's spines and they can have short kids together and all can be forgiven. Team world annihilation, bitch.
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Anyone here actually reading Jujutsu Kaisen and not just watching the anime? Shonenshit gets crapped on here a lot, and rightfully so, it's so popular everywhere else. I love the salt. The tropes (my god, the tropes) and treatment of the female characters can be so annoying and exhausting. I think some of the art is more dynamic and compelling in the manga and gets lost in the show. Also the show is really really upbeat except for a few moments and I think people would be surprised by how dark the manga can get. It has some interesting characters that have my attention. It's nice to not have a super hand wringing doormat protag but like clockwork the mangaka has got to put him through a torturous guilt ridden soul destroying plot eventually. It's a little tedious. Kind of interesting that the super hyped up overpowered god-like character turned out to actually not be nearly as strong as expected and I am curious where that will go but can't tell if bad writing or some kind of intentional commentary at this point tbh. Also really bummed at the most compelling character being brutally killed off. I genuinely want to see if the series goes way off the rails at the end like almost every shonen in memory has. Also kind of annoying how the female character designs in the beginning appeared almost intentionally de-sexualized but as the series went on more typical waifu bait type characters appeared.
No. 130958
>>130945I'm losing it at Mikasa
holding up and making out with Eren's severed head. How edgy.
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I always find it so amusing when people are either diehard Paradis rooters or completely against Eren. I would be fine with either outcome (native Marleyans need to pay tho) and long as it was written well and showed the different motives/ideologies of each side in an interesting way. But when your last interesting "tweest" is a telenova baby subplot, you almost completely remove the POV of your main character, character assassinate the rest of the main cast and make them look like fucking fools I lose all interest. I already tapped out on being satisfied and I'm just here for the keks– necrokiss being the most recent one lmao
You could tell Isayama had certain moments/plot points written down for this finale but was too fucking lazy to actually plan a coherent way to get there.
No. 130966
>>130938Might sound ungrateful but the anime is disappointing and soulless adaptation from a manga readers perspective.
>Kind of interesting that the super hyped up overpowered god-like character turned out to actually not be nearly as strong as expectedGojo is still unquestionably the strongest, they just caught him in a way that was guaranteed to work.
>as the series went on more typical waifu bait type characters appeared.Who? Genuinely curious since the female cast is already pretty small and I never really got that thought.
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>>130966I don't blame you. The openings are quite pretty. And the second closing. And I love some of the voice acting but… I don't like the attitude of just be greatfull you have something. Some of the scenes really did lose their soul in translation.
I was expecting more from the guy who is always proclaiming he's the greatest who ever lived. Basically he got rid of Hanami, got quite easily caught in a setup and then everything went massively to hell because of it. If he can be trapped that easily I don't see how he can justify calling himself the strongest. Kind of a major letdown after how he hyped himself up. Honestly to me it seemed like a convenient author hat trick to deal with the problem of an overpowered character. Also not foreseeing how things could turn out with Sukuna and Yuji just seems off (never understood why he couldn't contain the fingers himself tbh). No contingency plan? Maybe I'm unfairly conflating strength with intellect but it seems to me that someone on his level should be pondering these things. Or maybe I'm just massively salty about Nanami.Not a lot of examples but I guess that's why it was kind of jarring to see cover 12 of Mei Mei with her boobs out. Would be nice to have a series for once where the women keep their clothes on and the men take their shirts off.
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>>130961>>130964>I also find the real world historical subtext creepy.Eh, that never bothered me. I don't understand when people try to push the idea that the author is forcing his own political pov into the manga. To me, these references to irl conflicts are nothing more than references and are not connected to what the story is trying to say (which I could no longer tell you after this clusterfuck of an arc).
Eren is hardly painted as a villain when you see (in his rare pov chapters) that he's not only doing this for the safety of his loved ones but he's also absolutely devastated about what he's doing to innocents outside the walls too.
I pity him but I also think he's a retard for not even attempting to discuss his true problems with his close friends or even Hange/Levi if he didn't want to worry them. We don't know if his ability lets him see all outcomes of the future (which this chapter might have hinted at) which would justify why he didn't bother and chose to
keep moving forward. Though I think Isayama is aware that Eren is sympathetic which is why he avoids giving him paneltime.
Sorry for the essay on one line kek I've been jumping back and forth between liking and disliking Eren since timeskip and now I'm at a total neutral zone with him until the final chapter, I guess. Not sure how the fuck all the loose ends are going to be tied up in 45 pages.
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Is no one aware that Nana is getting a live action? It's crazy because mangaka never finished manga and honestly, she never will. Even the last time when she tried returning to manga scene by redrawing her oldest manga, she couldn't make it.
It'll be produced by Tencent pictures and it's lead director is Leste Chen.
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>>130970Topkek, that coloring and shading job was so hideous that I hadn't considered this sexy or waifubait at all tbh.
Agreed that the openings are very nice– they're done by freelancers so no surprises that the best aspect of the show isn't led by in-house staff. I could sperg about the anime all day so I'll stop here lmao
>Honestly to me it seemed like a convenient author hat trick to deal with the problem of an overpowered character.
Oh there's no doubt there. The author himself admitted as much and it's the problem with having overpowered characters in your story. You either have them minimalize all tension in your story because every struggle becomes "stall until OP character arrives" or you write them out to finally have some stakes. I remember finding all the Gojo wank annoying before he got sealed.
>never understood why he couldn't contain the fingers himself tbh
Being the strongest doesn't correlate with being a suitable vessel for Sukuna's fingers. He's tried to destroy the fingers with his techniques but nothing works.
I miss Nanamin too ;-; to be honest he was a walking death flag to me since the very start, I remember being relieved when he got out of that first fight against Mahito alive. No. 130980
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>>130977Lol, all the male fans were like "yes we need more of this in the actual manga!" and I was just like oh god, no please.
Hey I would go on a tangent with you but this is the manga thread, so you're right.
I'm not a Gojo fan. The wanking over him got even more intense because the anime made him super bishounen without the blindfold.
Oh, you're right. I remember the brief conversation at the start about it being exceptional that Yuji could contain them and that they couldn't destroy them. I still think with his power he should almost be able to just hold them like a biological container though, maybe without the dangerous risk of possession (or would his body reject them?)Oh absolutely, I knew he was going to die as a matter of course. But it still really hurts. He had that moment of accepting his death (rip to my dreams of bakery lady and him living happily) in the scene you mentioned and had flashbacks to being basically depressed. He was the most introspective about the downsides of being a sorcerer out of anyone. But that last line of his, and look on his face, and the way his body got ripped apart like that… fuck. Also I really hate Mihito, out of all the villains. I especially hate the trope he falls into. I also think it was unjustified that Sukuna let him live after that second warning. Can't wait until he bites it. His body count is getting so high. No. 130987
>>130986TBA.
I honestly doubt it, sounds too good to be true.
Honestly… yazawa could have written a Nana book if she wanted to, with or without illustrations. Would be a better idea, wouldn't it?
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>>130938I also agree that manga > anime, but it's decent, I just wish the music was more memorable (besides a few tracks). After the recent interview with the mangaka I've seen a lot of people being disappointed that the mangaka wants to finish this story in the next 2-3 years, while I feel that it's a relief. It means he has actual endpoints set up which won't get dragged on for years with padding arcs or slowly turn into the next HxH or D. Gray Man hiatus marathon.
I seem to also be the only person with a normie trash taste enough to prefer Gojo to other male characters, but I much prefer his looks in the manga to the straight up bishounen looks of the anime. His eyes do be pretty tho. No. 131066
>>130976can't she just hire assistants and finish the manga? PLSSS it ended on such a cliffhanger too!
of course i'll watch the shit out of this live action but i just want closure.
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>>131013Oh, absolutely agree on the timeline. If he knows where he is going and doesn't plan on getting there with bs time skips and nonsensical ass pulls I am all for it. Never getting an ending is terrible and alternately look at the absolute cluster fucks so many shonen and seinen manga ended on. I don't think I even have to name them here, lol.
Gojo really isn't that normie if you think about it. My man is quite off, lol. It's just the ultra bishie anime thing that gets him pegged that way. Lmao but also sobbing that Nanami compared his chaotic energy to Mihito. Hope it's foreshadowing that Gojo literally guts him. What's definitely not normie is the playlists I keep seeing on youtube like "music for Sukuna to romantically rip your uterus out to" No. 131466
Too many anons to quote, but I don't understand all the hate on SnK/AoT or the recent chapters. I think this chapter was executed nicely, the only two true asspulls are
that Falco just randomly started screaming at the worst time possible. At first I thought it was because otherwise everyone would just freeze and fall down from the titan gas like in the Rakugo village, but how is Falco supposed to know that? And that annie's dad got an almost death moment for the second time in a row. I also think this chapter made it even more clear that eren isn't a cartoon villain or whatever and quite the opposite.
Why do you dislike it or think the author hates his readers?
>>130958It was like a goodbye kiss and she barely touched his lips. Loligod standing behind them smiling was ultra cheezy though. No. 131511
>>131466It's not the last few chapters. People just find it funny that this is the big end game that took forever to reach. I don't think anyone here particularly liked AoT from the beginning. Some people straight up hated it and some were neutral until the GoT knockoff royalty lineage saga stuff kicked in.
Turning your protagonist into the antagonist fighting against the main cast can work but what doesn't work in my mind is virtually cutting the reader off from their perspective. Terrible idea. I don't care enough about this series at all to discuss it at length but I also find the trope of creating conflict by having the main character refuse to discuss their motivations and feelings with other major characters to be incredibly lazy and cheap.
And the "peace" is way to one sided for Marley. People fairly easily talking their way out of the repercussions of murdering other people's loved ones is quite convenient. It's actually hilarious to see Annie walking around casually with Levi after she smashed his squadron mercilessly like watermelons.
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I love this page from Jujutsu Kaisen. The serious inner dialogue juxtaposed with the exploding strawberry milk made me laugh. I really like Tsumiki's design and what we know about her so far. Dreading that she is now awakened but in the grasp of a very dark curse. Guess it's time for Megumi to go through some super pain. I don't want her to be killed off, especially before we get to really know her. It's so funny to me that anime watchers keep asking if Sukuna is canon gay for Megumi and they somehow missed it. That's your brain on fanfiction. It's possible he will use his pact with Yuji to manipulate Megumi somehow since he can't injure or kill and I don't see why he couldn't switch while maintaining Yuji's appearance Basically Megumi is in for a world of pain and suffering (and not the gay sex kind obvs although there are already a lot of doujins for that lmao). I have hope the author knows where this is going and this won't devolve into a shitshow. Even though I have a problem with some plot armour and certain too convenient plot devices so far.
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does anybody know a website where i can download manga scanlations from? i know whwre to read them online, but I would like to download all volumes of various series.
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what are good mangas that doesn't revolve around high school? now that i've been out of high school for a while, reading about teenagers makes me feel like a weirdo
No. 134187
>>134176Homunculus is interesting but it's fetishy and weird. It has a tranny character and a graphic rape scene where the teenaged
victim "wants it." The female characters are annoying and gross with no personality, drawn to look and act like porn caricatures. Pretty sure the author has a fetish for cum-eating, smelly feet, cross dressing, self mutilation, and more— yet tries to pass it off as plot relevant. The surreal horror elements were interesting and I think a story about trepanning is really cool, but while reading I felt like I was being forced to look at some guy's jack off material.
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>>134180>>134135Gokusen is old kek but is a great classic! A good recent read I enjoy Golden Kamuy and more recently, Ranger Reject. If you meant slice of life manga only, I like Watakoi. It’s about office worker otakus and their dating lives.
>>134176>>134187It was an interesting read and you are obviously entitled to your opinion. But calling it a “masterpiece” is a bit too much kek. The entire manga can be summed up as deranged scrote having a breakdown because his narc tendencies finally caught up to him. Like anon said, the female characters have minimal depth and purpose. Of the two main ones, (both of which serve to help the mc in his journey spiraling downhill) one is a highschooler who he rapes because she apparently “wants it” deep down inside. The entire plot only manages to transpire because a random rich twink
who secretly wants to do drag pays him to let him experiment on him. The most interesting parts are when the experiment drives him crazy and the manga explores homelessness. The “true selves” honestly frightened me. They looked incredible and creepy in a way I can’t describe kek it made me very uncomfortable. wanted to use a homeless person for his personal experiments. It’s certainly better than a lot the random non-isekai seinen getting churned out these days. But at the end of the day, Homunculus is undeniably just peak average depressed scrote’s “my understanding of psychology is über deep” philosophy seinen. To label it a masterpiece despite its very obvious flaws and occasionally subpar storytelling isn’t doing it any favors. I think Homunculus actually benefits when potential readers are aware it’s overall kind of shit. Your expectations should be low, it’s not a happy story with a profound or amazing climax or ending.
I think the fact that the conclusion was so basic helped to make clear how destitute the mc had become. He was barely a human worth anything from beginning to end, the entire manga allowed readers to witness this and accept the subpar ending befitting such a character. That being said I can still see why it stands out compared to a lot of shounen and seinen. It’s not a bad read.
If any anons have similar recommendations but written by women, and about female characters, I’d love to give it a read! The male psyche is always written about and always becomes the acclaimed cult favorite and I can only count on one hand how many manga I feel have been allowed the same when it pertains to women.
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I just absolutely love this series. And yes Bakutani is waifu for laifu.
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>>134189Have you read Helter Skelter? It's fantastic.
>"the wall" and aging as a woman>the shelf life of models and trends>female-centric mental illness>the exploitation of vulnerable and impressionable girls>how dangerous plastic surgery can be yet girls are still pressured to pursue it… No. 134363
>>134341I'm so glad you mentioned Helter Skelter, it's one of my favorites. The movie is beautiful, too.
>>134135I haven't finished it yet, but I like MPD Psycho.
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Why do japanese artists often show homosexual characters with the "he has the heart of a woman" logic I thought it had a tranny undertone until he mentionned himself as a man and the MC he-ing him anyway.
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>>117653I binged the whole thing up to chap 48. Oh my god what the fuck I love depression porn lmao. What delicious trashcan fire. I want it all to burn while I revel in chaos and destruction.
Gay ship best ship btw.
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>>134941I want Gen to rape him so fucking hard. Pussy clearly ain't doing it for him.
>>135000All jap depressed fags have /ss/ fetish. Nip scrotes in general seem to collectively have massive mommy issue.
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>>135532Lmfao anon, you don't hold back. Either that or they want an inhuman submissive doll that doesn't get sad or sweat. But to be fair (before someone gets mad at us lol) all scrotes internationally have some kind of sicko box they want to stuff women into and they all need their asses kicked in a way they wouldn't enjoy. It just cracks me up how transparent and unsubtle these mangaka are, and yeah the mommy issues are shrieking from the pages. I was losing it when Fujimoto said he enjoyed when some lady pushed his bike over for no reason and laughed at him (on a uni campus I think?) and it made a huge impression on him. And his character Makima is his type. The issues, my god.
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>>135532Just finished the available chapters and trashfire indeed. This is like a harem manga but all of the women are mentally ill suicide maniacs
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>>117653>>117730>>117814>>117953>>134941>>134951>>135532>>135564Oh my God I'm so glad that you wrote more about this manga! I decided to read it based on your comments and I love it, even though I hate all the characters except for Chako. Even though I realize that others are probably more morally despicable, I hate Reiji the most of all. Can't stand his waif act and just wish someone would bash his head in. He seems to me like the kind of parasitic male that completely depends on women in his life to run his life. He will let any hot women call the shots as long as he gets pussy out of it.
Of course the only girl he's not willing to fuck so far is his cute chubby friend who actually has a fun personality and actually cares about him What a spineless waste of space. And no, I don't care that he's an uwu
victim of his mother and Gen. His personality is still shit. Anyway the fact that it was a shock for him that hot chicks are people with inner lives and not just fap bait is enough for me to justify my hatred. Hope he fucking burns.
>I want Gen to rape him so fucking hard. Pussy clearly ain't doing it for him.IDK if I would put that in those words but there is clearly gay tension between them.
Are there any more comics like this? I mean lesser known ones, not anything by Oshimi Shuzo, Inio Asano or Usamaru Furuya (either already read them or will in the future). Love this kind of shit, very entertaining. It's fun to hate fictional characters from time to time.
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i hate attack on titan with my entire being
No. 135671
>>135564Oh god, is the mom doing the deed with the hikki brother?
How the heck does the abyss keeps on getting deeper?
No. 135673
>>135671it's not the hikki brother but
abusive childhood 'friend' of the protagonist. We still haven't seen the hikki psycho so I bet the author is preparing something extra special (read: deranged) for us.
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>>135648I just want based Chunko to get the fuck out. Everyone else I will gleefully watch them do a big Jonestown orgy.
I heard Ijimeru Aitsu ga Waruinoka, Ijimerareta Boku ga Waruinoka? (Is the bully bad or is the bullied me bad?) is similar vibe. I haven't read it though.
No. 135684
>>135669I just came here to shit on it after reading leaks. I don't know what's worse
Eren killing his own mother so he could manipulate events to lead to rumbling…only to say he doesn't even know why he started rumblingOr
Eren being crazy for Mikasa all along and lowkey blaming Mikasa for starting rumbling because she said "we are family" even though it was obvious she was into him and he never really tried asking her out or anythingOr
Ymir being in love with King Fritz and just wanted to see Mikasa kiss Eren so that's why she stopped being a slave. Huh?Or
Jean, Connie, Annie etc saying how Eren was actually great guy after rumbling stops and worm randomly disappearsOr
Pointless wars continue. Nothing was changed for the better. More than 80% lives on earth lost. No point in protecting Historia from 50 year plan when what he did was way worse and also had no problem killing his own mother to protect Bert.I was making jokes how bad the final chapter could be but this exceeded all my expectations.
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>>135669>farmer still doesn't have a name
>farmer still doesn't have a face
>even Tybur's family got names
>even horses from 1st season had names
Before 139 I was able to accept Historia being bi because I've thought Eren was the father and I liked their interactions as "enemies of humanity" but now it just looks like the "lesbian waiting for the right dick" trope. I'm mad.>>135684exactly anon
Eren being crazy for Mikasa from the beginning makes no fucking sense to me. EVERYONE around them knew Mikasa liked him. HE HAD ALL THE MEMORIES to know she fucking liked him. WHY THE FUCK HE JUST DIDN'T CONFESS. HOW THE FUCK HER SAYING FAMILY WHEN HE KNEW IT WOULD HAPPEN IS HER FAULT.
IM TIRED AND I CAN'T BELIEVE I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS SHIT FOR NEARLY A DECADE. Eren is a fucking incel and Mikasa deserves better.
Never again am I picking up an ongoing series.
No. 135721
>>135690It's like a race to the bottom, lmao. Incredible.
Sunk cost. Major cope for investing emotional energy into something for so long only to be so utterly disappointed.
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>>135693Not just the memes but they have all of the caps that render the entire preceding series pointless. Bruh… Isayama really hated his protagonist, huh? Actually I feel like he trashed pretty much everyone but Armin was his self insert. Didn't he say he disliked Shinji Ikari as a protagonist before lol. But made his own mc a psychotic incel.
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Massive sperg incoming lol.
>>135684It bothers me so fucking much how
#Eren literally killed his own mom, but then still proceeded to bring her death up at any chance he could get to fucking milk it no matter what scene was, literally used her death as some weird fuel to keep moving forward, put Reiner through extreme psychological stress and so much pressure on him over his damn mom getting eaten (like that scene in the basement where he confronts Reiner about why his mom was eaten and Reiner literally starts having a breakdown and starts going "Wuh! Wuh!" like an autistic child) and it honestly wasn't even Reiner's fault for that when he was simply a brainwashed child following orders back then,… there are so many fucking more moments where he literally kept bringing it up and milking it SO FUCKING much and he even looked pretty regretful over him having to commit a genocide (like seen in chapter 131 where he goes "What would mom think?" when he's thinking about the future that awaits everyone) and it all went down the fucking drain over this chapter. Because it fucking turns out, Eren fucking Jäger actually killed his own mom. He literally did that. And the reason? WHO FUCKING KNOWS. Biggest bullshit I've ever read in my entire life. Literally what the fuck is this.>>135691The whole thing with Mikasa is genuinely so fucking embarrassing for Eren's character.
The scrote who was telling her to get rid of her scarf and forget about him once he dies not even a chapter ago is suddenly throwing a tempter tantrum in the water, whining over his beloved Mikasa finding a man and him actually loving her or whatever? That is so fucking out of character for Eren, it really is. It makes no damn sense for Eren to suddenly do a huge 360 and act like he has always loved Mikasa when any proof for his love was never fucking shown in the manga. And no, the "I'll wrap that scarf around you as many times as you want" scene doesn't even count. Back then she thanked him for wrapping his scarf around her, and it seemed that she leaned in for a kiss, though Eren avoided it, and instead said that he can wrap her in a scarf as many times as he needs to.Mikasa showed both familial, and romantic love to Eren. For Eren, scarf represent familial love, as it was after Eren gave Mikasa his scarf that Mikasa joined the Jäger family. However, a kiss represents romantic love. Eren avoided the kiss, and focused on the part about the scarf, showing her that he loves her as a family. Eren may be dense for romantic feelings, but he’s not so dense not to understand what it means when someone leans in for a kiss. After all, he understood very well that Franz and Hannah were a couple in the very first chapters, lol. And honestly not to sound like a biased Ereminfag but Eren dropping on his knees and sucking Armin's cock right there would have made more fucking sense than him bawwing over Mikasa moving on from him since Armin always understood Eren, respected Eren, knew Eren even before Mikasa came into the picture, literally inspired him to escape the walls, cheered him up whenever he was feeling down (like one of the many scenes in the manga before they travel to Shiganshina for the first time ever in years and Eren talks about being nervous, Armin actually ends up calming him down while Mikasa literally just says "Eren…" or when they're discussing seeing the ocean and Mikasa thirdwheels so fucking hard LOL). And Mikasa? She never understood him or Armin, she was literally telling Eren to give up on his dream as a soldier and become a MP scout (which shows you pretty clearly that she never understood Eren's desire to see the outside world and always wanted to keep him caged like a pet), she always has been such an incredibly overly protective piece of shit towards him, someone who was always seeing Eren with an idealized image in her head instead of who he really was, so it just makes no fucking sense for Eren to suddenly act like he loves her so much that he cannot imagine her without any other man when he never fucking properly cared for her to begin with. It seriously makes no sense. It's like Eren before this chapter and Eren this chapter are two completely different people, one is the Eren that Isayama wrote himself and the other one is an edgy Eremika shipper adding their self insert Eren into the story. One thing I'm a bit glad over is that she's all miserable, crying and weeping on his grave like a dog while the others seem like they're trying to heal from the bullshit that happened.Anyway, moving on to
other fatal shit that has happened,
I also cannot fucking believe that Eren seriously managed to kill only 80% of the population and not just genocide everyone in the world like he had yapping about since the rumbling even started. In the earlier chapters he was feeling sympathy for Ramzi and Halil's family being stuck in tents and even made a comment that they're just like them - they also lost everything all thanks to war - and now in the newest chapter you can see that he actually put more people in the tents than before and ruined everyone's lives. He literally didn't accomplish anything but brought more pain and despair than needed in this world and gave them all more of a reason to hate the Eldians. They were already seen as these devils who can transform into titans, but now they are seen as devils who used to have the filthy titan blood in them and one of them legit killed 80% of the world over a reason HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HIMSELF. It's so fucking unfair how all these people are now the ones suffering while Eren gets the sweet release of death or a bird after fucking so much shit up.I actually like the other characters but honestly after this chapter, this entire manga turned to absolute trash to me. It's not like one of those Mangas with shitty endings where you just take the L, move on and still can read some of the old chapters for fun, no, this entire story turned to fucking shit. I cannot believe that one chapter was capable of ruining the entire story. I legit don't think I can actually read the earlier chapters for fun anymore without being constantly aware of how retarded the ending really is and that none of any of what they have been through matters now because
Eren doesn't even know why the fuck he committed a genocide in the first place. And I cannot believe Reiner went from being genuinely mentally ill, having the biggest death wish, trying to die no matter what to a normally healthy looking person 3 years later? What the fuck even happened to his depression, DID and PTSD? And why the fuck was he sniffing Historia's letter? I hate Isayama.
I used to love Eren's character a lot and thought he was pretty based for being a villain, but now? He's nothing but a retarded, incredibly pathetic and embarrassing incel to me. This entire chapter feels like a fucking joke. I hate Attack on Titan, biggest waste of my entire life.
No. 135749
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My favourite salty a/ post.
No. 135751
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Erwin died for this
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>>135739It's actually impressive how he undid the entire series with this. Well, not really, because destroying something is really easy. Literally nothing makes sense but
his mother killing thing, oh man. Couldn't he have done it another way? And Bert just dies anyways so it's all for naught. And isn't the ultimate implication that he had no free will and was being manipulated by Ymir (or totally controlled rather) removing all the weight and responsibility from his actions? Making all of his decisions meaningless I feel like Isayama really hated Eren, and the fact that people liked him and wanted to utterly humiliate him as a character, picrel. If he loves Armin so much he should have made him the protagonist from the start. This is like the cursed GOT television series all over again.
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>>135746This anon!!! Before final chapter I really liked Ymir's story, having a slave mentality all her life (and afterlife), but part of her wishing for freedom (freeing the pigs). Then finally finding a reason to live for herself which I thought it would be explained towards the end.
Instead we got
Oh she was secretly in love with her abusive owner who raped her as a child. She needed to see Mikasa kiss for some reason, then the titan curse disappeared. Oh btw nothing bad about being raped as a child and still falling in love to the point you are abused and don't even have your own life. Be like Ymir and Mikasa, the perfect waifus <3Why not just make her wish to be free, turn a blank page in history or whatever. Why this???
No. 135781
>>135779That got me too. It's like he wanted to butcher (almost) every single remaining character.
uwu she was actually in true love with her captor rapist torturer all along! Bro what the fuck I hope crazy Floch and Historia (what happened to her being deranged at heart and pro annihilation too?) pull off a massive suicide bombing or something in the epilogue lol.
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Nothing is resolved and wars continue. 80% of total human lives lost, others live in complete ruin. Paradis turned into fascist state, probably training child soldiers right now for future. At least titans are gone but we have started developing nukes. Thanks Hitler!
No. 135792
>>135791Yeah but it is totes fine because
the good guy alliance ppl are all singing kumbaya and going for strolls in the sunshine! Levi even smiled. Anyways moral culpability and consequences don't exist because all of the surviving murderers are forgiven and just chilling. It will all work out somehow, lmao. Don't question it.
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>>135779He recreated this meme from his favourite shitty television show.
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>tfw evafags can at least ignore the rebuild movies
>meanwhile AoTfags are eternally fucked with their shitty ass ending
Holy shit I'm crying with laughter.
No. 135804
>>135755how is THIS page the thing that "undid the entire series" to you, kek? are you a erehisu shipper? i mean seriously. did you even read the manga? if THIS is the page that you find so insanely out of character for eren, knowing the intricacies of his relationship with mikasa, you are either a speed reader supreme, or just genuinely cannot read nor comprehend anything on your own at all kek. just keep parroting /a/, the land full of delusional erehisu incels who thought eren was definitely the father of hisus baby because of…one or two panels? even though virtually the entire story was about eren, mikasa, and armin. kek
>>135797how are shinji and eren anything alike?
No. 135811
>>135807Actually one is an incel who got
killed by the half sister he was in love with and then had a temper tantrum about her potentially getting with another guy after his death, and also killed 80 percent of the world and then forgot why he did it. And the other is a teenage boy.
No. 135818
>>135810Damn me too anon, I could never stand Isayama's art, it looks so ugly and wonky sometimes. Like I'm sorry but
>>135751 looks like a fucking drag queen.
I'm so glad I dropped Aot at the beginning.
No. 135822
>>135816Lol,
>>135801 coming pretty close.
If we are being charitable Isayama didn't plan for most of this and just retconned a lot of crap at the end. Otherwise he is just plainly a terrible writer. Toss up.
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I hate so much how Historia, someone who was very aware of Eren committing a genocide but didn't even stop him besides saying some shitty "Omg Eren y-you cannot d-do that!1!1!1!!!", didn't even tell any of her friends anything about it to stop Eren and failed to fulfill her duty as the queen to protect her people, had the privilege to stay all happy at her farm and give birth in peace and then vibe afterwards while millions of people and children were killed and everyone was fighting for their fucking lives. And now she is even the one who got away with zero consequences even though she's a genocide enabler and the shittiest character ever along Mikasa. Her fans are even celebrating that by saying "she is the worst girl in the world", which is so incredibly cringy. They love to make her out to be this uwu cute pretty perfect extremely sweet and kind uwu owo queen and at the same time love to talk about how she's a based genocide enabler. No wonder why the Aryan waifu has the shittiest fanbase in the entire fandom. I wish Ymir didn't die as this piece of shit's lap dog, she had potential to turn into a sexy lesbian character but in the end got cucked and is extremely pathetic.
Also, I am mad that these two wonderful bitches weren't even able to reunite after all these years. What the fuck is the point of Levi even being alive when that man is extremely miserable and lost everyone already? His popularity is literally keeping him alive when he should've died a while ago, now he's getting pushed around in a wheelchair and hangs around two 15 year old kids. How embarrassing.
No. 135855
>>135804>eren, knowing the intricacies of his relationship with mikasaWhat intricacies??? Her one dimensional personality that is simply "eren" or Eren always wanting to be independent of Mikasa 90% of the series.
I could understand that he loved her all this time but he has never shown it was romantic other than that "do you love me cuz family?" question. Show me one interaction between them that isn't Mikasa acting like Eren's bodyguard. Where they have a conversation that isn't Mikasa telling him what or what not to do or Eren being an annoying rageturd.
The fact that Mikasa
never developed any personality other than "Eren Eren Eren" is really sad. I'm not saying she should have gotten with another man, just have something more in her life than being shown sad by his grave. Isayama turned her into scrote fap fantasy.Regarding Historia
The whole "impregnate me Eren" theory was ridiculous. Her character got thrown down the toilet as soon as it was revealed that Ymir died offscreen. Why was the whole pregnancy subplot necessary? Why did Eren tell her about his genocide plan and she was quiet about it?? Just wtf, should have kept her offscreen, now she is an useless queen of a fascist state, wow bravo. No. 135866
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I'm just gonna pretend Reiner is still a homo and him sniffing Historia's letter was Reiner's attempt at making Jean jealous.
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>>135804>muh Eremika intricate relationshipIsayama himself said that Mikasa is more like a smothering mother to Eren than anything else, and this was only 2 years ago. This development doesn't make any kind of sense. Eren suddenly being in undying love with her and getting jealous at just the thought of her getting into a relationship with another man is completely OOC and pathetic, especially after Mikasas schizo dream last chapter where Eren asked her to forget about him and get rid of her ratty scarf.
And no, I'm not an Erehisu shipper. I'm just a plotfag that's completely disappointed with this shitty chapter that assassinated everyones character and retconned important plot elements into something that doesn't make any kind of sense.
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>>135883It honestly reads like Isayama throwing a temper tantrum because people were rooting for Eren rather than for his authors pet Armin. Everyone who was more popular than him got a terrible ending or was turned into a pathetic creep, while Armin not only got the girl but also got to use TnJ multiple times in the chapter because he is just that epic.
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>tfw you kill your mother and genocide 80% of the world because your autistic stepsister won't make the first move
No. 135925
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Read the Hoshi no Koe manga based on Makoto Shinkai's short anime under the same title and wow, I will never understand why people older than 15 years old cry buckets of tears over his sappy stories (maybe beyond 5 cm/second, though even that is debatable). The mangaka tried to fix the scenario a bit and honestly she did a good job, but sadly nothing could fix the retarded premise:
>Two middleschool friends with crushes on each other get separated when the girl willingly accepts invitation to fly into deep space to kill aliens. Despite time gap between them widening, they keep pining over each other. Oh, and their personalities undergo ZERO change (maybe sorta understandable for the girl as time has kinda stopped for her, but not for the guy who's living a regular life on earth).
I'm sorry, I'm not buying that a teenage non-relationship could have a hold over both sides for so long. If their feelings were that strong, why did they never confess to each other? And whats more, why did the girl decide to become a space cadet even though she didn't care about it at all compared to her school life and almost romance with her friend? It's not like she had a strong self of justice or wanted to protect the Earth. It seems to me like Makoto Shinkai decides plot points depending on what will result in the most drama, regardless if it makes any sense or not. I know that he's always been praised for great animation, but plotwise, it's like he's an even more retarded Haruki Murakami. Fuck that garbage.
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Thank you to all the anons that have been talking about Boy'sAbyss. I gave it a shot and it is really good. Only thing I don't like is the fact that it it turns into this suicide harem instead of just being about toxic people bringing each other down. Especially the sensei, she didn't need to fall in love and have sex with Reiji, the trope that 'every woman is in love with the mediocre protag' is out of place in a manga like this.
As the other anons said, Sakuko deserves better.
No. 135979
>>135901Yeah as
>>135978 said, I feel like it was good at first but I gradually grew to resent it when it turned into a harem-esque sort of manga. Also the author incel guy flirting with the childhood friend made me uncomfy so I dropped it.
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sasuga big dick farmer-kun
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>>135979>>135978I’m sorry, but “as it turned into” a harem manga? It’s clearly scrote trauma & emotional torture porn fodder but from the second chapter it was
suicide harem. Everything wrong with this manga really fails to make it salvageable and the only appealing thing about it once you get past the first chapter is the art imo. Even without the big punches being
rape and abusethe theme makes the manga read off like an edgy tweenager’s wattpad self-insert after they’ve been overexposed to age-inappropriate media (like gritty, woe is me life is shit rated R movies) because the mangaka keeps spiraling down trying to shock you with how bad it can get. “You thought you’re life was bad? Wait until next week’s chapter!”
Also I think it’s funny how it’s become a scrote favorite, but if all of these tropes and storylines were present in a josei or shoujo they’d be calling it retarded girl drama manga and not depressant denji on steroids magnum opus. Overall I don’t think using these plot devices is bad, and I don’t think the idea behind Boy’s Abyss is bad as a
plot. But I don’t think it’s a good or great read because in the end you’re just being dragged along for the ride in all of these characters very shitty lives. Which I guess is a testimony to how well it must be written if in actuality it intentionally makes you feel like your life is shit too for reading it. But I’m not keen to believe a scrote would think that far ahead in what looks like his self-insert ecchi fantasy. I read his other work Himegoto a good while back and it was also very bizarre in the same way Boy’s Abyss is. It also ended as an underwhelming psychological ecchi and left me as a reader asking “why”.
It’d actually be phenomenal (and upsetting) if at the end he said Boy’s Abyss was all based on true events, because it was his autobiography. With full intention to be rude towards him, it’d actually make this story worth its salt.
I did mean to rant but I didn’t mean to shart on your parade.
No. 136021
>>136002If this happens it will probably be
abusive and non mutual to pile on the misery and horror. But would be hilarious if they were end game and committed lover's suicide instead of with one of the hot women. Male readers would lose it.
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>>135978Why are so many scrotes simping for sensei?? Even though she's actively cucking him from big tiddy waifus. They trip over themselves to cry about le ebil wahmen when female teachers fuck kids irl.
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Plenty has been said about the SNK end, but this might be one of the most enraging pics posted on /a/ yet. Jesus, talk about a character who fucking deserved better….
No. 136037
>>136012I am guilty of weeping over it, but I was also 16, in high school, going over my first "real heartbreak" and thought I could never fall in love again.
I rewatched it in my mid twenties and it's kind of funny now. Hard to believe that the guy keeps suffering because of his middle school romance well into his adult life.
Maybe the point is that he is now living a shitty overworked salaryman life, filling excel tables all day, so he keeps fantasizing about the good ole days
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on the topic of rushed endings fuck this one
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>>136047Is this tokyo ghoul? I have 1 friend that genuinely likes it and always recommends it, but everyone else on the planet seems to agree it’s shit. I got bored to death of the anime but I love the watercolor looking volume covers and artwork. I wish he was the artist instead of boichi for dr. stone.
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>>136047The real ending to Tokyo Ghoul was the end of the first story (RE: doesn't exist.)
No. 136058
>>135859>Cutting the viewer off from his pov until now was a terrible choice in my opinion.
ayrt and i agree with this, was a pretty dumb move. i think seeing erens side from the beginning of the rumbling would've helped many things, particularly the autistic historia baby tinfoiling autism, his feelings for mikasa, and his plan, but it seems like isayama..wanted? to make us think something else would happen (i.e. a genocide ending, or something along that line?)
i think its less about..getting sex particularly and more like grieving the loss of what could have been, knowing how much she cares for him, and that he gave up that opportunity on the chance of humanity prevailing in a world without titans. tho, the ymir stuff, i can't really defend kek. i think isayama wrote ymir that way so that he could..have an ending where mikasa ended up as the "savior". because thinking about the show, it seems like he knew all along this was the ending he wanted for EMA. i enjoyed the ending despite its flaws, i kinda sperged out in my first posts cause reading the seethe from EHtards on /a/ is just insufferable kek, your issues with the chapter are understandable though. godspeed, nonny No. 136123
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>>136054>>136022>>136019>>136054New chapter of BA out and I am once again cackling into my hands. This is like vagina has evil powers: the manga. looks like
Reiji's mom turned the formerly uwu sweet and innocent author into a degenerate when they were kids by blossoming into an evil poisoned flower or whatever lol No. 136125
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>>136123She's also
a bitch for not encouraging him to kill himself when he was 13 I guess lol No. 136135
>>135801Same. I want to reply to the anons in this thread to explain it with my interpretation of the chapter, but I think at the moment the hysteria
combined with shipfag//a/theories butthurt is too bad to have a proper discussion. Maybe in a few days when everyone cooled down and is able to read the chapter again with all the previous chapters in mind, in a more neutral state.
No. 136141
>>136138Because the complaints are just parroting what all the previous Erehisu shippers aka /a/ (and certain corners of reddit and twitter) now cry about, because it doesn't make sense with all the biases they have built themselves up on for years while ignoring or discrediting things that went on in the manga that they didn't like. Hell, anons are even reposting images from the /a/ threads here.
I really want to talk about the ending, especially about what comes after the "I don't know why I did it, I just had to" that for some reason gets completely ignored, but I'd rather have anons rage for a few more days to reach the acceptance stage, so they are open for more dry discussion.
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>>136133>enjoy the deranged ride and save your 'feels' for a better contentKek exactly. I'm having a great time not inhaling SnK copium.
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So anyone who hates this chapter is an Erehisufag now? Damn, even the shippers are clearly retarded in the head here. No wonder why you think a psychopathic garbage waifu beheading her uwu beloved man and running away with his head is peak romance. Erehisu itself is garbage, people really thought Incelren was the baby's father by just him and Historia just talking for 2-3 panels. Everything about this show is just shitty at this point.
I do hate Mikasa and Historia equally, but Historia clearly won by living happily with her husband and child at the end while Mikasa is still weeping on a grave of a scrote who suddenly loves her? like the cuck she is while all of her friends seem like they're trying to move on from the past and the pain.
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>>136146>No wonder why you think a psychopathic garbage waifu beheading her uwu beloved man and running away with his head is peak romance.You mean it isn't? Shit taste
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>>136146What even happened to crazy Yelena and Floch? I was rooting for them based on the pure undistilled lunatic energy (and facial expressions) and literally nothing else.
No. 136153
>>136139Hating Mikasa = shipping Eren with shitty moe Mary Sue? I think both characters suck ass, I just hate Mikasa more because at least Historia is doing something with her life other than sitting next to a grave and waiting for a bird to shit on her head.
>>136141What do you want to talk about? Reiner sniffing Historia's handwriting, completely reverting back to his bro persona because apparently his cunt of a mother telling him she suddenly loves him is enough to stop him from being suicidal over his extreme guilt? Or Jean getting called a horse? Or Levi being a cripple in a wheelchair (when he realistically should've died 20 chapters ago if it wasn't for fangirls that would have dropped the manga)? Or Mikasa sitting next to a grave like an uwu obedient, meek Asian waifu? Or Eren turning into a fucking bird? Or Historia suddenly being completely pro-genocide after telling Eren she wouldn't be able to live with herself after he started the rumbling? Or everyone's ghosts appearing in true shonen fashion, making Hange dedicate her heart for genocide when she was so strongly opposed to it in previous chapters?
It's all retarded, anon. Not as retarded as Isayama suddenly retconning Erens past into making him into an incel and killing his own mother because "idk", or Ymir suddenly being in love with the man who cut out her tongue, raped her when she was a child, killed her whole family, and then made her children eat her. Or even Armin telling Eren "ty for becoming a mass murderer for us love you bro xx" lol. This last chapter was absolutely disgusting and an insult to everyone with more than a double digit IQ, and if you think it's in any way redeemable you are huffing some very strong copium or you're a Twitter user. No. 136154
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>>136152Floch died by the hands of Mikasa (and getting shot by Gabi before too) and no one even knows what happened to Yelena since it wasn't shown at all. My guess was that she probably drowned on the boat where also the Hizuru people were on - since Falco transformed on it and everything - but they're clearly alive. Yelena is just nowhere to be found.
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>>136152Deserved better just for this alone.
No. 136157
>>136149>Imagine living in a universe where women had this much evil sexual energy.The author clearly has and cannot stop fapping to it. Probably is heartbroken that it isn't true and that women don't throw themselves over virgin dicks of spineless cucks whenever life is shit.
I smell major madonna/whore complex between Chako and basically every other woman in this comic
>>136155IDK what emotions this shot is supposed to convey but it's pure nightmare fuel as always. AoT author should draw a horror manga instead of a shonen one. He's clearly more suited to it.
No. 136162
>>136159Why was Levi even stuck with those two? I don't remember them ever interacting. Such bullshit that he just easily forgave Annie for killing his whole squad, too.
>>136160It's like that with pretty much every female character. Isayama may not sexualize his characters like other shonen authors, but he still clearly has something against women. I don't think SnK deserves the praise it gets for having "strong, well written female characters".
No. 136164
>>136153Okay, Mikasahater it is then. I genuinely think you should get some fresh air and think about the fact that you got yourself deeply involved into ramblings of basement-dwelling 4chan scrotes to the point you openly deny yourself of what happens in reality and act like their wrong interpretations still have value.
After you did that, we can talk about the ending.
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>>136164Not even that anon, but holy cope
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>>136172
KEK, you truly believe her randomly voicing her opinion means she's mad. She doesn't even sound that way at all and even if she is, it's rightfully directed at the story that deserves it for being so shitty in the first place.
>I didn't even say anything about Mikasa
You called her a Mikasahater? Retard.
No. 136184
>>136173>>136173Ok so you're ignoring all of anons points because she used hyperbole? Just say you have no argument and go.
Writing off anybody who doesnt like the ending or the way the characters were treated as a mikasa hater is the most retarded take ever. The fact that I like mikasa and the potential she had is the reason this ending is so frustrating. She has not had a single crumb of character development this entire series and now she just sits beside a grave like a dog. Any time it was hinted that she would become more than a satellite character to eren she immediately regressed back into her obsession. You don't have to be an erehisu shipper to realise how shit and nonsensical this entire last chapter was, retard.
No. 136186
>>136157Makes me a little uncomfortable knowing that I am reading his personal fetish material. He probably genuinely believes bigger girls can't get sex because he's as clueless as his protag. On a side note I love how miss idol doesn't wear a bra so her boobs can conveniently spill out. Anyways I wish we lived in a world where our demonic sexual energy could cuck helpless men. Too bad.
Absolutely. Just do a surreal clusterfuck horror Isayama. It's meant to convey psychotic rage.
No. 136192
>>136184Agreed. Mikasa had a lot of potential to be an amazing character but she never developed past her "Ereh, Ereh, Ereh" obsession. There were so many points in the show where she could have gotten character development but she never did. Isayama himself even called the way she lives because of her obsession sad/pathetic.
>>136187Anon was trying to call out the other anon because Other Anon used a pic from Twitter and we are supposed to care about that, I guess.
No. 136196
>>136192Oh, I see.
>filename says "calling others twitterfag">anon finds same pic on twitter so it means you must've saved it from there, right? It's not like memes are reposted over all social media or anythingEreMika anon is a confirmed schizo, I never called anyone a twitterfag.
And the pic was saved from r/titanfolk, but that's still not an argument. No. 136197
>>136184No, I choose to refer to those points later because anon(s) are clearly angry and insulting and strawmanning me in every sentence simply for telling them to calm down.
And that anon literally says she hates Mikasa in
>>136153 and I was just responding to that, I wasn't calling anyone who doesn't like the ending that. And no I'm neither a mikasafag nor an EM, I just think several people might be overreacting to the ending because their theories(many of which included EH) didn't came true and now they're disappointed because of that.
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>>135988Those threads were truly something to witness even as someone who only speedread SnK to catch up to the shitstorm when I heard it was ending (I could never bring myself to read the manga before because of the ugly ass art.)
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>>136225"I'm gonna wait at least 4 days" is obviously a codeword for "I have no argument so give me the time to scour the internet for a big brain pro-ending argument, as there are currently none".
>>136205>>136216>>136226That scenery…
No. 136318
>>136308Anon, pls, Amuro is like the 0.5 beta version of Shinji. He's less like a depressed teen and more like a normal one put into ridiculously brutal situations. The whole point of Shinji is that he is so scared and sad he is almost literally unable to react to the world around him, which is both an interesting meta commentary on Gundam and an accurate way to portray depression.
But alas I'll stop evafagging on the manga thread.
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Shame about the ending, but I'm really enjoying the memes.
No. 136374
>>136370It distills it down to it's nonsensical essence. Literally nothing makes sense to me even now though
they kill Eren to stop him killing, he kills 80 percent of people anyways, and literally everyone who was anti-killing is explicitly like "wow thanks for doing that Eren that was so cool bro" while crying after killing him. What… like what was it all for? I don't understand.
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>>136499A lot of people have been saying it reminded them of
a botched CG ending. I don't know if that was intentional though. Isayama is really into western media/Hollywood and I was getting GOT final season, but mostly final episode war flashbacks. So many similarities. Kumbaya but actually nothing is genuinely resolved and everything is unsatisfactory and when you think about anything for a minute you realize everything is going to devolve back into war ASAP, lol. No. 136566
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Don't know why I'm still reading Jujutsu Kaisen since shounen really is the worst and almost always lets you down hard. The best husband is fucking dead and even though I like the women a lot I'm sure they will end up dead or made irrelevant/shafted/sidelined somehow, but my god the latest chapter was funny. Just one giant exposition dump of not particularly interesting magic terminology and functions. At least it gets updated regularly?
As an aside I find it so funny that some male readers are genuinely depressed and shook by Boy's Abyss. I keep seeing guys readers talking about how it wrecked them and they can't leave their rooms (maybe that is a hint that they are really young) It's farce. Tragicomedy at best, get it together guys.
No. 136571
>>136528Apparently the Japanese version instead says
Thank you for becoming our devil. which sounds slightly better to me
No. 136601
>>136570Personally I think that style suits the characters having psycho meltdowns more, which they do pretty often, than the pretty clean and clear cut style MAPPA uses. However they did a pretty good job on all the deranged moments in the final ep of the season. Lol, he seems like a nice guy. Sounds like something he would do. I think that's a toss up at this point, anon.
There was some more stuff added about Yuji's birth in a recent chapter that was a pretty big reveal and makes things even messier Gege, the mangaka, said he knows where the story is going and doesn't want it to become one of those neverending shonen series. But with all this babbling..
If the theory that Sukuna is somehow going to use Megumi to recreate his old body somehow is correct it might happen sooner than later. I wouldn't be surprised if he offers it in exchange for saving Tsumiki's life.
Yeah that Shibuya arc was long as hell but it was clearly meant to be this big tonal shift tragedy arc with all of the dire consequences that resulted.
No. 136641
>>136566It's a Togashi-esque chapter, just talking heads with no backgrounds kek. But I still like it, I'd rather he explains the rules and goals of the upcoming arc in a single chapter than to have a million conversations about it. He is going at a pace that's giving me a whiplash though like
one second yuji's talking about not going near Megumi for his own safety, then he's knocked out, Megumi shows up and is instanly convinced that he should help Megumi, that happens from like one chapter to the next. I'm just waiting for Sukuna to do something or for Gojo to get unsealed at this point.
No. 136847
>>136641That's true, if that's the end of the exposition it's preferable. I would rather not have it all dragged out. Also lol at
Megumi's dad fucking everything up always. Yeah that was a fast turnaround but
because Yuji is very emotionally driven I can buy that being confronted by Megumi would change his mind. I want Nobara back. Same, kind of an interesting choice to have the big bad not really make a major move yet.
I also felt Angel's design was weirdly out of place for the series I have a feeling they will mostly have to solve the culling game without Gojo getting unsealed.
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I have read the 5 volumes of the original Devilman manga, mostly because of the anon in the anime thread mentioning how influencial it was and how the main male relationship inspired Kawoshin as well as Guts/Griffith etc. I have to say that I adore old manga, but for the first time it's very hard for me to understand how something so shit could end up being so influential. I feel like the only thing this manga must have been good at was pushing an envelope in how much violence, gore and sexual content is allowed in japanese comics. The thing that I enjoyed the most was the completely unintentional humor in the first half of the story (I have so many pics to share in the manga caps thread…). Go Nagai doesn't seem like a good mangaka to me at all, unless his later output has improved significantly.
Is the Netflix anime an improvement? I feel like the story in Devilman has a potential, but it's never even scratched in the original manga thanks to the bizzarely fast pacing, flat characters, comically unfitting artwork etc (okay, I know that this one has been majorly improved in the new adaptation). Based on the source material, it's hard for me to imagine RyoKira having active fanbase nowadays.
I'm curious if the Netflix material fixes the shitty writing and pacing, but also I'm kinda scared to try (especially since I'm lowey watching Ideon at the same time).
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Fair points. About to go to bed but I think people were overstating the Shinji/Kaworu and Guts/Griffith influence, personally. I really liked the visual style and character designs in the reboot, especially Akira.
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>>136847Speaking of what kinda drugs are /a/ on…
No. 136944
>>136930I don't know if i got filtered or what, but i absolutely hated the netflix version. Yes the animation could look very cool and interesting at some parts but things felt so rushed and nonsensical, I hated the weird oversexual aspects and usually I like that type of edgy shit in anime.. I just don't know, the netflix anime was so fucking shitty to me.
It was unintentionally hilarious at some parts and I literally did not like any of the characters at all. The part where Ryou grabs the bible and has a sudden realization about some basic stuff in the book of revelation despite him clearly reading it before and it being like the most basic stuff everyone that ever was into Christianity would know about had me cackling
No. 136952
>>136944Have you read the manga, anon? Because it sounds exactly like the shit I went through reading Devilman. It seems from your opinion like they haven't changed much and the story is still shit. Is Miki (the female love interest) still only there to
be a damsel, fawn over the protag and end up being decapitated just like her little brother? Or have they decided to make her portrayal a bit more feminist friendly?
No. 136968
>>136952I actually haven't and I've been meaning to for the longest while, even before the netflix anime came out
Miki's fate was the same yeah, she's just kind of a super kind perfect gullible girl that's also a huge instagram influencer or something kek
Also she's mixed and a christian in the netflix version and she gets hate for being a hafu
For some reason that studio loves to introduce mixed families in their anime, not that it bothers me but I also noticed it in japan sinks 2020 which was utter shit
No. 136970
>>136968>super kind perfect gullible girl that's also a huge instagram influencer or something kekAlso she's mixed and a christian in the netflix version and she gets hate for being a hafu
That's still tons more of characterization than she got in the manga, kek. Seems like the anime is a bit better than manga in that regard (though still trashy and retarded, apparently)
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>>136930I find that with much older manga the adaptions take a loooot of liberation with the storytelling and design. Sometimes because the manga is full of holes, but nearly every one I’ve seen it’s more as if they’re using the characters names and settings only. But I find the crass, almost unfinished (by today’s standards) level of overall production for these old manga to be very, very charming. I love how cut off they are regarding the storytelling and how short they often are.
In retrospect I think the Netflix Devilman is dogshit and often overpraised. It tries way harder than it needs to even with edgy source, and doesn’t add anything to the Devilman legacy except an interesting set of videos to look at. I don’t see how anyone could watch it and find it an example of prime television even if the bar for anime wasn’t very high. Honestly I’m being harsh because I didn’t like Crybaby and felt like it wasted my time kek. If you find it interesting enough I’d say go for it because the anime is short. As for the characterization, it’s alright I guess. It doesn’t really fix the shit writing, just presents a different version of shit in a more palatable way. Did you try Shin Devilman? Different writer, but the mangaka stayed to illustrate. This series has a few official works, but I’d say the sequel is my favorite and does the concept more justice. It’s the fan favorite rendition too afaik. I think it gave him a chance to let the characters be who they were supposed to be in a digestible way, with smoother readability. Definitely because he wasn’t the one writing everything kek.
You should read the Dororo manga and then watch the newer 2019 anime next. I don’t know enough to say it’s Devilman level of influential, but I know it did have a substantial impact on the genre. It’s a short and fun read and the anime does the concept justice even if it changed things a good amount.
In conclusion both of these manga are very old and pretty shit and the animes aren’t as bad in comparison. I wouldn’t recommend Crybaby.
No. 137008
>>136930I also don't get the connection and claim that this series helped inspire Berserk and other things but Go Nagai DID do some fantastic work in setting up the super robot genre with Mazinger Z an Getter Robo.
A lot of the background characters and subplots are engaging and I especially like the soundcould rapper dudes. Akira is super cool in the netflix adaptation and it's nice to see a badass anime protag that is also a softboi with empathy. Overall it stays true to the core concepts of the original while adapting it with more modern storytelling. There are some really big notable changes in the anime and the first few demons he encounters have a certain weight to them and instead of feeling like monster of the week type enemies have been built into sort of big boss fights.
You having read the manga already though kinda takes away that feeling of the big twists in the anime so it won't REALLY be the same but I'd still recommend watching it, and for anyone that hasn't read the original manga, you should definitely watch the anime first and then go back and read the manga
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Re: Jujutsu Kaisen 146- who is the brains of this group? They are all so stupid, lol. What could possibly go wrong with not thinking this through at all? Surely nothing catastrophic. The good guys don't plan for anything in this manga.
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>>137553Lmfao, did he really make a BB comparison? Let alone with that excellent final episode. Considering the trashfire he crapped out. He wishes he could write a character that could hold up against any character on that show.
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>>137893They're all absolutely stupid and cocky, but I don't expect like Kurapika-tier inner-monologues from these guys about trying to predicting enemy predictions about his predictions… Also the mangaka probably thinks this was enough setup for the killing game, he basically wrote 2-3 chapters of pure exposition with a few cute character moments. Maybe it is a bit weird or OOC for the more level-headed Megumi, but he's still Gojo's student who wants to
murder-suicide by his Mahogara summon every big fight, and he seems to have a few things in mind at least.
No. 138270
>>137898It was more like "I don't mind releasing the manga's ending because like BB, it's how you got there that's exciting" when the fucking journey was painfully convoluted and didn't match the ending. He's influenced by Western media, but he doesn't get the culture at all and falls onto bad Japanese tropes and cop outs. A lot of Japanese manga tends to build up to some great mystery then bungles it at the end because they can't straighten out all the hype.
>>137892Please come back "rational anon" and explain this to us:
Eren killed his own mother. I remember when she begs the kids to be taken away then covers her mouth when fear overtakes her and she pleads not to be left alone. How do you rationalize that?! Wasn't she as important as Mikasa and Armin? And wtf was the point of stopping the rumbling? The rumbling was to kill off everyone except the people from the Island. And Eren manages to kill 85% of people. So in the end, Eren loses out by 15%? Historia is forced to breed, but it looks like she doesn't hate her kid. Yay? Armin is left to deal with pending war and a military state while Mikasa is absolutely broken and lonely.
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Is it crazy to spend a hefty sum on OOP manga collections?
No. 138714
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>>138710Samefagging but there’s so many oop manga that are nearly 2 decades old with complete localized sets seemingly impossible to find. Do any other anons usually save digital drives full of volumes, or do you prefer to not save entire volumes/series at all?
In reference to Billy Bat, it’s interesting there’s no English localization despite a Spanish one. But with Monster rising in popularity again along with an upcoming anime for 20th Century Boys and reprint, Billy Bat might be coming sooner than later.
To be honest I find Urasawa overrated despite his works’ general obscurity. It’s more like I enjoyed them because they were there and filled a manga related need, not because they were pinnacles of literary excellence. They’re interesting, great even, and I’d recommend them. But I wouldn’t proudly brand myself with a “I have read this!” sticker because of it. I feel the same way about Blue Lock, but that could be because this shit is overhyped as hell. The action is engaging but the art is ugly in a distracting way for me, similar to jjk.
No. 138973
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I’m reading Genshiken because the first volume was being sold to me, but I’m not sure what to like about it. I’d put it in the same category as NHK, and even say that stylistically they’re also similar. But it’s the overall ambiance that engulf this subgenre of “boring loser scrote” manga that hails in the slice of life section of seinen. It’s almost coomer by default. The context of mid-00s perverted humor isn’t what makes it so bad. Rather, that’s one of the more palatable aspects of the manga. It’s trashy in the exact way you’d expect it to. What I find bad about it is that these characters are supposed to be human in their faults, but it all reads as fodder for fluffing up the male mc as he finds himself. Almost to a t, countless manga have this exact same formula. Man writes not-so-very subversive self insert manga where in his mundane fictional life, he’s somehow an interesting hero. He does beat himself up over it, but for me it’s not enough. Maybe I’m a puritan or whatever but there isn’t enough shame in this manga. Rather, there is shame, but it’s unbalanced and unsure of itself. It’s unconvincing. Or rather, it’s hard to be convinced by a self-pitying nice guy coomer. Overall I don’t think it’s bad enough to drop on the spot (it has tropes I enjoy in trashy, almost campy dated manga) but I can see why teams that scanlated NHK and GTO would have had interest in this series. Something farmers may find interesting is how uncannily you can see the same faces between this and the monogatari series. Full offense monogatari is trash but I like the way character’s faces are drawn. I’ve seen similar to it in Maria Holic as well. Is it CLAMP inspired? It reminds me of the anime adaption for xxxHolic the most. Genshiken came out at the same time though
Also, is Shaman King any good? I remember watching the dub and being a huge fan, but with the upcoming reboot I’m also remembering it wasn’t that good. Does the manga hold true to a much better story?
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>>138714God, I fucking loved Billy Bat. If there's one thing Urusawa is particularly good at, it's weaving together a tonne of characters/plot points into a complex, interconnected storyline. Seeing him do that by mixing fiction and reality in Billy Bat was so fun, it had me shook every time it revealed some historical figure or event's connection to the story.
No. 138988
>>138973Genshiken is actually one of my favorite mangas, but probably because I read it in my late teens when I was more into the community aspects of manga. I'm not sure if I'd appreciate it as much as a first time reader now that I prefer enjoying things on my own. I'm also probably way more tolerant of coomer shit than other users here, so that helps I guess.
The first volume is kinda weird, a bit too grounded in realism, it gets funnier in the second one, but if you're not feeling it, just drop it.
No. 138989
>>138973It’s a slice of life, it wasn’t meant to be anything more. The first six volumes are a decent, realistic look into early 2000s otaku culture and then it turns into a shitty romcom about Madarame and his harem.
>>138710As a person that used to be able to buy most used manga for $1-3 a volume I kind of think it is. I really can’t stand that in the US manga is practically viewed like an investment when it’s a pretty disposable hobby everywhere else. Things like print edition and comic grading never mattered before and now this shit is everywhere
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>>138989>I kind of think it isATAYRT, and to be fair manga copies now retail for around 8-13 USD per volume. Why resellers put their used volumes at the same price point is beyond me, but I think if you like the series enough and the math checks out then it’s not the worst solution? The Japanese versions are usually significantly cheaper to buy in sets and I think that’s only because they had the benefit of having a surplus to begin with. But that considered, does that make Japanese language volumes a better option? Even if you don’t speak Japanese, if you know the story you can fill in the blanks I guess. It’s not the same as one in your native language but it’s not the worst option either. Kek I guess what I’m saying is I decided it was worth it to cough up my quarters for oop manga box sets.
>>138975Mainly just Ogiue, but occasionally I’ll see it in other characters too. I don’t know monogatari characters but whatever the blonde kid is named and the monkey girl are the ones I feel like I’ve seen through Genshiken. Maybe the monogatari illustrator read it?
>>138988>>138989I don’t think it’s bad if you like it. It reminds me of late 00s otaku communities because that’s when I got into anime. I was harsh on it, but I think because of how regular it is for the most part, you could apply that critique to what anime communities felt like too. These characters have been enacted in real life people (or real life otaku imitating their anime favorites?) that even the characterizations I described as fodder have made appearances in my interactions with real people [in anime communities.] While interesting, I think that also kind of counts as projecting on my part kek. Life imitates art I guess. I’m still reading so I don’t want to make bigger conclusions than what’s presented in earlier volumes. Sorry this reply wasn’t very coherent, my mind is fuzzy right now. Maybe it’s whiplash from overspending on Fruits Basket volumes instead of Jellyfish Princess.
No. 139234
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Jujutsu Kaisen Chapter 147: Somebody hasn't updated this trauma collage in quite a while but now they have to add Yaga and Panda too. With this pacing I believe Gege when he says he doesn't want the series to drag on. As long as he doesn't pull the dreaded move of adding 100 characters that add nothing to the plot. Also the sorcery world higher ups are literally dumb as rocks. Like, received near lethal brain trauma levels of stupid. Or are themselves malevolent.(No wonder they are ineffective against the bad guys.) Only explanation for their "understanding" of and reaction to the Shibuya incident.
No. 139357
>>139345Chihaya's sister??? Wasn't she a bit of a selfish brat?? I really don't remember much but eww I'd rather him ending up alone fucking off to med school than with such an obvious consolation prize.
Also I guess I'm not reading it then, I never thought Arata's arc was interesting, he's so freaking bland I don't get how he has so many fans and if it keeps being that wishy washy stuff we had since day 1 with Chihaya stil being a selfish brat and posessing 0 emotional inteligence then I guess it's not worth my time, how people have patience for it after 14 years is beyond me. Thanks tho,
nonnie!!
No. 140225
>>140054Did you reach
modern era arc? It feels like such a detachment from everything. I see
the generic school environments and designs and immediately just start skipping texts because I don't care about modern school romantic drama shit. Also the knockers just chose peace in the end after all that shit, that's so bad it's funny. I'll still watch the anime because it'll end way before the story starts staggering.
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ToMan anons, how the fuck are Mikey, Emma, and Izana related? As in, what the fuck is their family tree supposed to look like? I know Izana doesn’t have a blood relative with either of them but were we supposed to believe all 4 of the siblings shared a mom? Is the grandpa supposed to be their maternal grandfather? And then it’s implied that Izana and Emma shared a mother and father. (even though his mother is a Filipina, doesn’t that mean he and Emma are half siblings still?) But then in the flashback, Baji says Emma and Mikey don’t share a mother, and Emma doesn’t correct him. She also speaks of her mother as if the woman has no relation with Mikey, so I assumed their shared parent is their father. But if Mikey and his older brother share a mother and father, and share their father with Emma, why did Emma believe that Izana was Mikey’s half brother too? She didn’t know that Izana and Mikey don’t share a parent, but she thought those two shared a mom? But if he knew they didn’t share a mother, and in reality they shared a father, then why during his death did Izana claim to have no blood relatives at all? Doesn’t he share a father with Emma, who shares a mother with Mikey? I’m assuming it’s the mother they share and Baji & Mikey were just retarded 5 year olds. But this is very confusing.
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I finally caught up to the last chapter of ToMan and I’m both tired and relieved there’s more. I’m not expecting this to last too long because of how good the pacing is (coupled with time skips) but the new setting is exciting, I want Takemichy and everyone else to have a study arc, pass their exams, and stop Mikey from corrupting but doing it that way would be cheating and it could easily ruin everything. I also hypothesize that there has been no second time traveler. Rather, there was a way for the tall skinny Valhalla Hanma kid to send messages to the past. Or whomever was behind the steps when Takemichy was mourning at the stairway after Hina’s death. Since Hina would only be murdered as long as Kisaki was alive. But now Kisaki is dead, and Bonten’s admins seem to all be familiar faces(except the advisor.) Why it’s Hanma and not any other character who is has the same hair dye idk, it’s just a guess. And Mikey will also have been sent back this time, through Takemichy.
I never felt particularly fond of Baji (we didn’t have long to know him nor much to know about him) but his end was really fucked up. Emma’s too, I’m glad Kisaki is dead. I wonder why Kakucho didn’t act as Mikey’s limiter when Takemichy was gone? He managed to step up to Izana, surely he wasn’t afraid?
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>>140556I'm wondering what is up with Mikey. Because it looks like he's fine when he have friends with him, but then he either kills all of them or himself anyway (and Takemitchy too, both times).
I barely remember Beji, i think he still have fans because people ship him with Chifuyu. And I will miss Emma a lot.
It funny actually, Hina's life is safe and now all Takemitchy has to do is help Mikey. But how is he supposed to do it if guy's whole family is dead and we have no idea what the fuck is his problem.
More questions: it's Takemitchy who went back again, right? Will Mikey remember what happened in that timeline like Naoto did? Did Naoto do? I'm so confused.Can't wait for new chapter, give me those (Takemitchy's) tears.
No. 141178
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I can't stop staring and laughing at the new JJK cover. Gege what are you doing? The copious amount of brain fluid (Lieutenant Tsurumi crossover fanart when) the licking, the weird suggestive pose is this a reference to him being Yuji's mom-dad ew.. Japanese social media was commenting about feeling bad for people when this goes up in bookstores lol.
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So Sui Ishida is back with a manga called Choujin X. First chapter is out. Will it be mostly pretty art that amounts to nothing in the end? Already put off by the "loli" looking design of one of main cast.
No. 141197
>>141193Kenjaku is a cumbrain kek
I appreciate JJK's body horror and male fanservice though. The cover is kinda cool at the same time.
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>>141194That was a mess and very similar to tg. This page looked cool is only good thing I can say.
No. 141229
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>>141194idk how to feel about it right now.
Some designs choices feel very weird to me (the count Olaf fire villain or the childish teacher) other feel way too similar to tg (Azuma or Tokio's choujin form). Not to mention that something feels off about the plot.
But tbh it's only the first chapter. I'm gonna wait for more and then decide if it's worth following.
>>141178Cumjaku….
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>>141194Really disappointed. It feels so immature and cliche shonen. I'll only keep reading it because I loved Tokyo Ghoul so much, but this feels like a dud.
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>>141229I agree it's only the first chapter and I will wait for more but not good signs for me. It felt really sloppy and unfocused. You could always count on Ishida for character designs even if you didn't actually like the characters or anything else going on. But I genuinely didn't like any of these and found most of them annoying. Friend looked cool when he transformed from a mushroom head into a psycho for a second by going full crazy face. He likes his antagonists so maybe when major ones show up or when the protagonist gets his inevetible trauma powerups they will get better
have a feeling something will go wrong with the best friend, I don't think he transformed. Might go bad in an inverse of tg. I was expecting a totally different direction than tg but the nerdy dark haired boy with low self-esteem and his saviour blonde peppy best friend in a world with "afflicted" monster terrorists? Hmmm. We even got some animal metaphors in the first chapter.
Lol, Gojo really should have cremated that body. Look how they butchered his really hot boy…
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>>141229All the reaction art to the Cumjaku cover lol.
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The latest Golden Kamuy chapter is killing me. I am doubled over right now.
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I can't believe Sugimoto disappointed Ogata that badly. For a moment he thought his half-brother was a maladjusted Chad with rage issues ready to fight a bunch of armed men totally naked only to realize his real brother was a pacifist, lmao. I love this manga.
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I just finished Kimetsu no yaiba and I loved it soo much, could anyone recommend some similar manga with stories/characters like this?
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>>141229Speaking of Gojo I'm starting to think he's a genuinely bad person who only ever cared about Geto. The fandom overwhelmingly seems to view him as the loving and caring sensei but it doesn't really seem like it. I was reading the fanbook and the answer Gege gave for helping Megumi, Yuta, and Yuji was interesting. Nothing about wanting to save them from suffering or death at all. I guess you could construe making them strong as doing that. Especially with Megumi- his Dad may have been a psychopath but he still killed him. In addition to finding protecting the weak tedious (spoken like someone gifted with god power), bullying Utahime like a 3rd grader when he was like 17 or whatever, and buying sweets while Megumi was getting the shit beat out of him, he seems really unconcerned with other people's lives. Also Gege confirmed he would be unfaithful to women, lol.
Some of the fanbook details are interesting. Like Sukuna likes eating people and Uraume is apparently his only subordinate because she is good at cooking people. And Toji got his scar because the Zen'in family would trap him with a bunch of curses as a child, and make him fight for his life presumably. Also has some ship bait.
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>>141438He's such a good antagonist. I knew as soon as he showed up and promptly bit a guy's finger off and was like "sorry I have brain damage haha" that he was going to be a really entertaining character. Definitely the superior villainous brain fluid leaker in this thread. A little while ago I saw a comment from a reader that was like "what is the point of him? The manga would be the same without him." Had to be a troll. (Btw are you Tsukishima anon? Lol)
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>>141465I don't either. Are people really that impressed by an overpowered bishounen? He's actually the most interesting to me when he's acting like a psycho (picrel) but everyone jerks him off like he's this benevolent and caring guy and I just don't see it. Literally when? He was such a dick in the flashback arc and I don't think his core character traits have changed all that much. And like you said he's actually failed or acted really irresponsibly an impressive number of times for someone hailed as basically a living god.
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aaaa isayama stop making chapters already!
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>>141475I like Gojo especially because he's a brat that shows how bad it is when the most influential people are powerful jerks, like Hunter x Hunter's Netero, who made the hunter exams basically only test for survival skills and fighting power when Nen can be useful in so many other ways, because those are his ideals. Gojo is just a guy who can't relate to anyone because he was born as a Chosen One, still grieves his only friend and while he probably has the mental capacity to make the world better, he's not really using his brain that way. He thinks the solution is to have more insanely powerful people like him.
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>>141495The fanbook was basically suggesting he drove Utahime and Nanami to heavy drinking lmao. I agree with your interpretation and also think Geto was the only person he actually ever genuinely cared about.
According to Gege he was on good terms with Yaga and they had a genuine understanding though so uh oh It makes sense that he sees the problem as weak people and not strong people abusing their power since he has never been weak (he has failed to protect basically everyone anyways though).
Absolutely and not just Gojo though. Him being a nuclear weapon isn't cutting it obviously. The lack of strategizing from the good guys in this series is kind of amazing. I can't really recall another shounen that has had the antagonists dunking on the good guys for basically the entire time. It feels really uneven. I think the majority fandom interpretation of Gojo is wildly off and really funny though. People are very set on him being this super lovable empathetic guy who really cares about his students and honestly he seems to just barely give a shit. I find the fact that he didn't get an ego check from getting wiped by a powerless Toji, just the opposite actually, to be concerning. If he doesn't get one from being cubed I think he's in trouble. I still want to see him go berserker on Kenjaku because that's really fun though.
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>>141494Right? The surprise nobody wanted and needed. People finally calmed down.
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>>141500Also he is so manipulative of poor innocent Yuji. Because he is deadset on using him.
But this is probably going to backfire because I think it's likely Sukuna will kill him. No. 141516
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>>141332 >>141333 looked at the raws for the next chapter and
holy kek I‘m absolutely dead now. based kaeko No. 141548
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>>141494>>141507I'm petty enough that
Jeankasa becoming canon makes me able to stomach the ending.
But honestly, what the fuck happened. Is someone holding Isayama at the gunpoint? What was even the point of this story?
>>141475>>141429I like Gojo partially cause he is hot, partially cause I like the boisterous type of characters since they are fun to watch.
Gojo is annoying, arrogant and assholish at times but he is not a bad person.
> In addition to finding protecting the weak tedious Caring for the weak is a bother because his whole life from the moment his techniques activated was defined by it. The guy was on a hit list ever since he reached toddlerhood because others could only ever dream of reaching his strength. His childhood considering the small sneak peeks we've gotten was probably of a mixture of rigid, cold traditionalism and putting him on a pedestal as a god and separating from others just because of his power. If only others weren't weak, his life would be better.
Probably one of the reasons he and Geto got so close. He was Gojo's first and only equal that could shoulder the responsibility of being the strongest.
>bullying Utahime like a 3rd grader when he was like 17oh yeah, teenaged Gojo was a rude scrote who couldn't care less about honorifics. At least he didn't turn out a misogynist like the Zenins.
>buying sweets while Megumi was getting the shit beat out of himhe won't be there always to clean up after him and Megumi has to learn how to stand on his own. Gojo already taught him how to fight and gives him lessons ("just give your best instead of trying to suicide!")
>he seems really unconcerned with other people's livesthat just untrue, he can't empathize with most but this is also the same guy that tried his best to keep civilians safe during Shibuya incident or proposed to let Riko choose on her own whether she wants to become one with Tengen or not. On a smaller note, there was also a cute scene in the anime where he saw Megumi walking behind so he slowed to walk next to him.
>>141495>he probably has the mental capacity to make the world better, he's not really using his brain that way. He thinks the solution is to have more insanely powerful people like him.What do you expect him to do? Murder won't solve everything and from what we were shown major clans are rotten. Cultivating strong students with strong morals is the only way forward.
>>141508Personally, I've never interpreted this moment as him being manipulative. Rather I think this is him reassuring a kid that is on death row that he can make it more meaningful. Gojo cares about Yuji, you can see it in the light novel when he asks Nanami to help him protect Yuji's heart, when he is angry at Yuji's untimely death or when he slipped in the card with baseball game during Goodwill event so the students could enjoy being students.
anyway, esl here so sorry if some parts are hard to understand.
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>>141548Is it canon? I heard it's hinted at or implied by showing a guy who looks like him from behind which is honestly infuriating. If you are going to do it just do it.
>Is someone holding Isayama at the gunpoint? What was even the point of this story?I think we all want to know the answer to that question at this point.
I think Gojo's moral compass is somewhat skewed. But just because he has been set apart from the rest of humanity doesn't mean he isn't capable of empathizing- I just think he doesn't really try. I don't buy the theory that the cube will turn him bad/utterly insane because he was already at least a little unhinged before he went in. Makes me think of that bit where Nanami feels that he and Mahito have the same weird energy of immense killing intent behind cheerfulness. And that would be a huge troll on Gege's part- to introduce a hugely overpowered, very popular, super-weapon for the good guys, only to incapitate him and then turn him evil. Coooome on. Don't know why I have seen it floating around so much lately.
We will probably see about his family. Gege obviously didn't want to reveal much but said they are likely alive and well. I can't imagine anyone outdoing the Zen'in's derangement (torturing your own kids for not having a cursed technique…) I get his perspective as a practically divine being would be different but the only reason the weak need protecting is because people similar to him in strength tend to be
abusive. And his track record of protecting people hasn't been great, at least on the page. It's cliche but if he isn't going to use his power to keep the world from being destroyed and prevent mass slaughter then what else would he use it for? He's strong enough that he could simply opt out of all of this if he wanted. Which I guess is a point in the column of him caring about something at least, even if he complains.
I don't actually think Gojo saw Geto as equal in strength which makes their relationship more interesting. Because he must have seen something else in him other than raw power, making it a more human relationahip. Because he wasn't nearly as powerful was he? Toji would have probably annihilated him had he not been focused on Gojo, and both Rika/Yuta, and then Gojo pretty easily overcame him. Despite that Gege said Gojo's morality and perspective were shaped by Geto and not the other way around. I think it's telling that when Geto said he wanted to eliminate all non-sorcerers Gojo objects because attempting the impossible is absurd not because he finds it morally repellent. Gege mentions that some of the attitudes he picked up from Geto have cooled down a bit since his death but aren't completely gone.
The honorifics thing doesn't bother me. I think his disregard for authority and propriety is actually one of his best traits. The higher-ups obviously suck. They suck to the point that I sometimes think they are working with Kenjaku or Sukuna because they are so counterproductive. I think Utahime just clings to that because it's all she has on him. She can't even throw tea in his face like he deserves tbh. I meant more like laughing at her crying and getting hurt. I think the Riko thing was more of an 'F the police thing' going on with his disdain for authority instead of genuine concern because he was shown to be quite the asshole during that period, but hey people are multifaceted so who knows.
Holy shit, yes. At least he doesn't have a women are even weaker than weak thing going on because that would be intolerable. If anything good comes out of Kenjaku and Sukuna being unleashed I hope it's the Zen'in family being eradicated as it stands now (all the old clans actually). Naoya is literal pond scum. His introduction was so demonic. I hope he dies and I don't even care how anymore. I saw spoilers for the upcoming chapter and
the Zen'in's apparently beat Mai really badly because she won't help them kill Maki so they decide to kill the two sisters and Megumi. Literal trash.
I guess I think it was a weird mission for a single first year to go after a special grade cursed object alone. But I don't put this solely on Gojo but also the higher-ups. No wonder their fatality rate is so high. And then his reaction to the utterly bizzare scene and Megumi's injuries when he did show up was so blithe it makes me think he has a major empathy disconnect. It was played for laughs but he was supposed to be there. When he isn't there people die. He can resent this but it's true. I am admittedly a bit of a Megumi simp though. I expect Gege is going to put him through a huge suffering barrage and probably kill him off so I'm already sensitive to anyone making light of his pain.
I forgot about the light novel. That was a good scene. And really sad in retrospect. I wish we got more Nanami. I take your point anon, I think that makes him more complicated but I think he has shown a bunch of contradictory behaviours and attitudes. Gege is involved in the anime so when it comes to anime only stuff maybe he regrets not emphasizing certain elements more in the manga?
It's my turn to sound heartless and nonsensical. I guess it was before Kenjaku revealed himself but if Gojo had known what was coming I actually think he would have been justified in knowingly inflicting some collateral damage. I don't know if that would have earned him an instant death penalty or what, but considering the fallout of him being cubed- the thousands of deaths so far and definitely more to come. You could justify it on a utilitarian basis that it would save more lives in the long run. Now I sound like the unempathetic one, I know.
Personally I think that's false hope and a cruel thing to do. Because when the person inevitably realizes the truth the pain is worse. If he has a plan for saving his life when all of the fingers are collected then maybe I would reconsider. But Yuji is so pure and had no idea what he was getting into and I found the whole thing pretty cruel. There was no informed consent to him saying yes. I'm not saying he's a sadist but I do think he's using him with a pretty selfish disregard for how the consequences will rip Yuji apart. Basically a dangerous experiment. I mean look at Yuji now.
>What do you expect him to do? Murder won't solve everything and from what we were shown major clans are rotten. Cultivating strong students with strong morals is the only way forward.Not the anon but I do feel like he should have had some kind of contingency plan if something were to happen to him. But I feel this way about all the higher ups. It makes me feel like there is a conspiracy. Their interpretation of Shibuya was so amazingly stupid it was like they were shooting themselves in the foot. They have no greater plan or strategy so whenever the bad guys organize a little they just get pulverized. It's frustrating.
I guess I hope he gets his god complex under control but I think either way he will die to Sukuna, unfortunately. He hesitated for a moment when Yuji asked him if he would beat a full strength Sukuna and it was so uncharacteristic it felt like foreshadowing.
Anyways interesting perspective anon. I suppose I object to the image of him as purely kind hearted and benevolent and think he has some darker traits but I don't think he's psychopathic.
Not a problem anon. I wouldn't have known until you said it. My family is all ESL.
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>>141548>>141621Anons, please. Why are we Gojofags like this?
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>>141628Lmao, don't OD on your benzos when you haven't eaten in two days or you might write essays about anime men on lolcow too. I'm not even a Gojofag I'm a Megumifag and and a Yutafag tho. Am I a Gojofag now? What's happening to me.
I can't properly stan Nanami for obvious reasons No. 141880
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well i just finished reading blue flag as i had heard it was a unique romance manga. for the most part i found it to be enjoyable and touched on some topics i didn’t expect it to. still i felt like some of the dialogue scenes were a bit lengthy and underwhelming. had i read it as a young teen i may have connected to it more but as an adult it didn’t say anything too earth shattering lol.
the ending was complete ass tho
it honestly felt like the author wanted to write a bl but couldn’t commit to it. throughout the whole manga we were lead to believe that the main guy was straight, that he could only view his childhood friend as a friend and therefore couldn’t reciprocate his feelings. but suddenly it turns out that they’re together and married post time skip ???? there was no indication of that even happening. honestly would have preferred it if the mc stayed straight if the writer couldn’t be bothered to actually build up their relationship to make sense. also the character i thought was a lesbian ended up marrying a guy. being bisexual is fine but i really didn’t think the author indicated that she was. she seemed very much to be 100 percent gay so it was just a weird. the only part that did make sense was futuba and taichi breaking up. i never thought they would last.
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>>141880I always got the impression he was bi though, with all the eyeing panels and "admiration" he felt for his friend.
So I guess the ending wasn't unnexpected for me.
But you need to understand anon, this was run in a Shounen magazine, regardless of the ending the author being allowed to run this kind of story in that kind of mag is really something.
Also, a story can be a coming of age dealing with sexuality without being BL, it's just that those are not very usual still.
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>>141890maybe i’m just a dumbass but i really didn’t read it that way at all. i think the author could have done a little bit more but i also think taichi as a protagonist isn’t one to reveal his feelings, to the other characters to himself or to the reader.
i do agree that it was a big step to have this published in a shonen magazine. that’s why i’m surprised that it touched on the topics it did. idk i guess i’m not really a big fan of time skips and i would have preferred if it ended a little more open endedly but still with a bit more to hint towards taichi/toma endgame.
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What the hell is Gege Akutami doing with Nobara? Would he seriously fridge his female deuteragonist this early and basically off page? I don't think he would because I think it will either be Nobara and Megumi still standing at the end or Nobara and Yuji but just let us know if she's alive or not. If she really is he will basically have to bring back Mahito for a confrontation with Yuji right? Because letting him slip away after brutally killing Junpei, Nanami, and Nobara is too much.
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>>142361Like, what does this mean? To me this implies
life support or a coma not death but it's frustrating me. Just say it already.
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>>142373He’s good at drawing bodies. He’s good with his own style of blur and adding intensity and impact to fights. However, he’s so inconsistent with faces it’s insane. Sometimes he gets proportions and angles wrong too. It’s very distracting. You’re right about action scenes being his strengths, and him having favorites. What makes it worse imo is how some characters are uncared for to the degree that they have the same fucking faces. I’d assume he’s trying to get ahead with releases which is why it’s always so rushed looking, but he should consider outsourcing or getting more assistants. I didn’t watch the anime, but MAPPA clearly did him a lot of favors with how well they made his characters look on screen. I’ll have to read the light novel, thanks for letting me know it exists! Picrel not a spoiler.
No. 142380
>>141880It was good until the gay guy decided to quit everything because his friend didn’t like him back. Everyone was applauding when they got together but isn’t that manipulative as fuck? It came off as “if u don’t date me I go depress and drop out it’s all ur fault”
Ffs I wouldn’t push my straight friend to go through that shit AND burden them with my future prospects.
And what was that whole arc with het guys being mad at the gay guy, having an intervention with the girls, mansplaining sexism to women, and then revealing he was molested?? Like what?? I get they were trying to devils advocate a situation but what shitty fucking writing
No. 142387
>>142380yeah the molestation comment was super out of left field and the characters didn’t really properly deal with it. i wish the author didn’t include that part.
personally i read it as toma wanting to live away from his family and friends so he could be himself and be more comfortable being gay without having to come out to the people in his life. which i found pretty understandable seeing as i kind of did that too lol. really i was just confused as to how exactly taichi and toma ended up together. i read all as physical volumes except the last which i read on some dodgy illegal website so idk if the translation was off but i didn’t think they had any romantic chemistry.
maybe it would have made sense if they showed that taichi was questioning his sexuality too but as that didn’t happen it just didn’t make sense for them to end up together, at least in my opinion
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Golden Kamuy continues to make me lose my shit. Kaeko remains wildly based. The funniest thing was Ogata's stages of grief when he realized Sugi wasn't his real brother.
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>>142419I can't breathe. Major
cope about to be ruined. No. 142421
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>>142420Things get real in the spoilers for next chapter though.
Really had to go and make me invested in Kikuta and then do him like that. Tsurumi and Tsukishima are made for eachother though. No. 142433
>>142419Oh man he just can’t have nice things.. I think this is the happiest we’ve seen him so far.
>>142421NOOOOOOOOOO
will he die before Ariko? No. 142438
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>>142433Probably the happiest he has ever been is watching a
screaming and naked Sugimoto punch out his comrades. The irony. Meanwhile he looks at Yuusaku like picrel a couple minutes later.I flipped out but wasn't exactly surprised.
I loved Kukita. Yeah, it appears so…
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>>142361I think we won't know what happened
until she has a big "I'm here to save the day" moment in the culling game. For now at least it seems like Maki and Mai are getting some focus, so people can pipe down with their memes that Gege's so gay he doesn't even care for the his female characters. Although it's still kinda true. Also Maki looks really hot in this last chapter.
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>>142452>Also Maki looks really hot in this last chapter.based
nonny No. 142455
>>142361That is such a nice pic of Nobara, what is the source?
I'm really frustrated with the plot as this point. The badly paced, never-ending action of the Shibuya incident, no update on Nobara, no humour anymore. It feels like JJK lost it's heart.
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>>142452Lol, when I saw that news story I thought of him in his pre-Mrs.Fushiguro days and then I saw that meme like a day later. Gege is def gay for his male characters but the whole "he's a misogynist who makes all his female characters incompetent losers" is a shit for brains /a/ meme. Almost all of his male good guys have been losing hard for almost the entire manga now (mutilated, dead, cubed, absolutely clobbered in fights, etc.). Maki looked so damn hot. Naoya is the dumbest man. I hope she becomes a chadette, like Toji but not fucked in the head and with a moral compass.
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>>142452Samefagging but I am glad they are getting attention I just miss my girl Nobara. Maki and Mai have the saddest and one of the most interesting relationships in the series and I hope they save each other. And Mai realizes Maki's true intentions
and doesn't sacrifice her life before even reconciling. People always say Gege can't write human interaction and relationships but that physical fight between Maki and Mai and then when Mai lashes out verbally and breaks down was really compelling.
Lol at the Zen'in's being demonic walking garbage. Literally worse than curses.
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I saw an anon post about this manga while I was scrolling through snow and gave it a read out of bordem. I know a lot of the users on this site aren't big on the idea of transgenderism, but if any anons care enough about the subject I actually really recommend this manga. It's a oneshot about a FTM protag that struggles with her relationship with her conservative (but well-meaning) father and her d.i.d. I can't attest to its accurate portrayal as I don't know anyone personally with d.i.d, but from the outside looking in it seems like it was well written.
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>>142455Isn't it pretty? It's part of a set with an insect theme that includes Yuji, Nobara, Megumi, Gojo, Geto, and Nanami, but I can't find the artist for the life of me. They have just been reposted everywhere without credit.
There has been a bit of humour like Choso
crying and hiding his face when Yuji calls him brother but with the current trajectory I think we are headed for a lot of suffering and deaths
speaking of Choso. Pretty obvious that something
terrible will happen to Megumi regarding Sukuna and he might snap and go dark or be coerced into participating in his plans out of desperation and it's annoying me to see so many people cheering it on for their Sukufushi ship. Leave Megumi alone! I think Gege can give the protags a win or a little breather but it looks like he is going in the opposite direction. This series is kind of unique for a shounen because I can't think of another serious that had the good guys being so thoroughly thrashed for so long.
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>>142668i saw this on the /snow/ thread as well. enjoyed it, actually.
especially the part about the friend asking her if she really wants srs because a percentage of trans kill themselves after they get it, at least it was researched somewhat i know to some anons its "truscum propaganda" but i'll take this over uwu fakeboi shit any day.
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>>142667Just saw upcoming chapter leaks and they were right last time so I don't really doubt them. Do not read if you are not okay with spoilers because they are pretty big albeit kinda vague.
Apparently Gege likes that phyrric victory. Mai uses the last of her strength to somehow take all of Maki's cursed energy and create an absolutely lethal cursed weapon/tool. Maki's cursed energy is eliminated for good in this process and Mai dies. Maki kills their piece of shit father in one strike with the aforementioned weapon. I'm really sad about Mai. Maki was doing this for her. But Maki haters BTFO. The hints Gege was dropping about her emulating Toji were legit. No. 142738
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>>142728Thanks! I was seeing them pop up but just getting sent in circles to rando twitter, pinterest, facebook, etc. accounts. Really annoying.
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>>142740I want to protect all my faves from him.
I'm betting on Choso for getting the chop next since he has a massive fanclub in the Japanese fandom. No. 142743
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>>142742Thanks for the moral support
nonny. I think you're onto something
That's so sneaky. I like that Choso was Yuji's bodyguard and unlikely support when he had nobody but he's not a top tier fave of mine as of yet. Everyone forgot real quick about him decapitating scores of people in Shibuya, lol. I'd rather he not be killed by the guy who basically raped his mom though, which seems likely. Japanese fans will go absolutely nuts. They love him. I saw picrel on Japanese twitter. I am more concerned about others and about Megumi's mental health as far as Tsumiki is concerned right now. No. 142766
>>142736Ugh I wish I hadn't read that.
Gege owes us an epic Maki and Nobara team up now.
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>>142766Yeah I was like fuck, cooooome on dude. He did say in the fanbook she would
have to give up something major to get stronger. It's even harsher than I thought initially. Apparently Maki couldn't get stronger because the sisters are intrinsically linked and Mai had no interest in sorcery so she had to die basically in order for Maki to do so. Jesus. At least they apparently have a talk and reconcile. I'm mad though. Also Mai kind of creates a curse with her last words like "kill them all" or something which tbh I hope she does with her clan Oh big time. I demand Maki and Nobara going ham on some mf. I hope Maki clobbers Naoya on the way out.
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>>142769A repeat of this but it's Maki standing over her cousin who
wished for her death and appraised her and her sister's bodies to their own mom. No. 142783
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>>142775Toji in hell be like "good for her".
No. 142803
>>142733The story is basically about a girl “
born in the wrong body” who transitions because she always wanted to be herself.
There are moments in the story, like at the very beginning in which they show us the shitty comments of men that only want to see her tits or that want to fuck her, also the idea of her getting married with a man, she even wanted to have a fake marriage with a random man because she didn’t really want to get married.
Then we got the whole stuff of her wanting to do “male stuff” like hunting, just like daddy, who was overly protective because she was the only family the guy had, he gives her the news about him having cancer and she jumps into transitioning, leaving her father to face his cancer alone while she was getting chopped up at Thailand, the best place for anyone to get huge surgeries.
She takes the T, chops her tits off and nothing hurts, no complications whatsoever, the scrote friend or whatever tells her that she could get depressed and commit 41% if she gets the meat sock, but she goes with it, completely emotionless, which is totally normal when you’re doing huge changes in your life, like getting an hysterectomy because she didn’t want to use pads or a tampon.
She ends up being seen as a boy, daddy gives her his cool rifle because only men can carry weapons i guess, she changes her YouTube channel from meat mukbangs to hunting and asks for a girlfriend, which means she was a lesbian all along.
It’s weird, I don’t know, I never bought the whole
born in the wrong body schtick and it honestly felt like she never had the opportunity to be herself, making transitioning something like a quick and easy fix for all of her problems which were basically feeling unfulfilled in life because of the way society saw her.
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>>142864enjoy, based
nonny.
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>>142864You have to appreciate all of the fanartists who are like "God, I wish he'd shoot me in the head." I've never seen people so horny over a fictional character in my life. What have you done Gege?
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RIP Miura
https://www.hakusensha.co.jp/information/60696/I guess Berserk really will never be finished.
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>>142928No, I always have a full-blown existential meltdown on my birthday and this is just the cherry on top. Even though he died on the 6th. The world is a shitty place. He was so talented.
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>>142940I recommend Shinkuro. It's about 2 sisters who have the ability see the guilt of a person manifested as "ghosts" and use it to solve mysteries.
No. 142954
>>142921Fucking hell, what a loss. RIP.
To anons who were waiting for Berserk to be finished- I highly recommend reading it anyway, even unfinished it's a glorious ride.
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>>142921I don't even care about the fact Berserk won't be finished, I'm legit sad that he died so young. His work has been important, Berserk has the status of a legend, this feels like the end of an era.
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>>142921This is so sad. Berserk has been my favorite manga since my teens and Miura really worked his entire life into Berserk and his other creative works. I haven't been actually sad about a celebrity death until this one. It's amazing how his work was able to move and influence so many people over 30+ years. Rest in peace Miura you fucking deserve it.
No. 143428
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>>143015Welp, I was right to trust the Chinese JJK spoilers
Brutal. Their Dad drags them like trash bags, while lecturing them on being failures, before throwing them down some stairs to die. The Maki and Mai scenes are really touching. Mai calls Maki really strong. No. 143431
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>>143429Absolutely based.
Maki collects her first Zen'in head for Mai, their father's. She even looks like Toji here. Hopefully she wipes them out completely. No. 143432
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>>143431This is what I wanted
but not like this. No. 143433
>>143429Fuck, that hit me right in the feels.
When Mai first showed up in the manga, I never thought we'd get emotional scenes like this with her. Well done Gege.
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>>143433Personally I always thought Mai and Maki's relationship was one of the most emotional in the series despite the limited time it was given. Mai's meltdown on Maki at the goodwill event was great and so was that little flashback moment to Mai listening outside when Maki left the clan- calling her a liar when she says she's doing everything for her sister too.
I like the callback here to Mai lying when she told her classmates Maki was weak. I agree very touching death. Also interesting to see human on human killing from a student. No. 143449
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>>143441Ugh, my heart.
When she says "Mai, let's start"… Gege likes Toji so much he's like what if Toji but … a woman? No. 143466
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>>143441>I always thought Mai and Maki's relationship was one of the most emotional in the series despite the limited time it was givenI completely agree. When Mai first was introduced and fights with Nobara I thought she would just be some insecure bully side character. Shonens don't tend to take their female characters seriously. So glad it wasn't the case.
No. 143475
>>143468Same, Mai's whole monologue messed me up. And Maki's final words in the chapter: hell yeah.
Yeah I would. We might piss everyone off by talking about a shounen so much in here.
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Noda, how dare you mortally wound one of my faves and then immediately make me laugh at a ridiculous pun at his expense.
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deep breath What the fuck is happening in this arc?? It's become an absolute clusterfuck and now they're throwing MORE characters into it?? I held out hope that at least we're getting close to Garou emerging, but now he's out, he looks like a fucking Pikachu, and they totally botched his arrival! Murata is too obsessed with the western superhero capeshit and ruined his entrance! It was way more intimidating in the webcomic when he popped up and Fubuki was alone and her attacks being useless was waaaaaay more intimidating than Bang immediately finding him! And they didn't set up the scene at all! The entire chapter was chaotic! We waited over two years for this…
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>>145853The webcomic is still worth reading in my opinion, but the current arch (the
Neo Heroes one) is kinda repetitive and slow. It kind of feels like One isn't sure where he's taking the story. The Murata version is a clusterfuck atm and isn't worth catching up on until the entire Monster Association arc is over (which will take who knows how long, because there's no way he won't be redrawing/rewriting a lot of this shitfest.)
As a licensed Garou simp I'm seething over his botched entrance. The webcomic did the entire AG battle so well and this newest chapter was such a let down and a terrible foreshadow for the rest of his arc… I know the Orochi stuff was One's idea, but it ultimately leads to nothing more than fanservice scenes and a
cringey fighter jet action sequence that gave me Gilgamesh vs Berserker PTSD flashbacks. /rant
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How good is tokyo revengers ending? I am at chapter 194. Should i just stop there and pretend that's the ending or is it okay to read further? Im not interested in repeating the same mistakes I did when reading you know what.
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>>146342It didn't end yet, last arc started with latest chapter. And I personally think it will be good considering what it's about… or at least I hope so. Though i have to say that Ken Wakui definitely knew from the start how it's gonna end, not like you know who. So that's promising. You can continue reading to 207 and decide then.
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Is there any beautiful manga like Witch Hat Atelier? Something on the same level as worldbuilding and beautiful sceneries, and some good mysteries to top it all?
I am not interested in slice of lifes, if that can help
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>>147451Princess Tutu (only the anime) and Dungeon Meshi! Everyone I recommend Witch Hat Atelier to, I also suggest Dungeon Meshi. It’s one of my favorite manga to edit, it’s beautiful and the mangaka does an amazing job illustrating and storytelling. Golden Kamuy is also beautiful. There was a farming and fishing manga I can’t remember, but it also was very pretty. Try looking towards nature themed manga.
>>146342It’s currently in the final arc and won’t end for at least a few weeks. If you meant you got the
happy wedding ending I’d suggest leaving it here and waiting some months. But the last arc is really, really good so far.
No. 147475
>>147451There was one another anon posted here a while back, it's not a fantasy setting (Iceland) but it was very pretty and had a mystery plot. This one
>>126638 Houseki no Kuni is nice too if you are okay with a very stylized look.
No. 147551
>>147548Anons hate asano because they have functioning brains and can tell he’s a shit writer who can only do characters that resemble his main audience— insecure, confused, socially inept loser men. He writes them well because he more or less is one. It’s also why he’s unable to write women well, even when he is quite literally creating imaginary women out of thin air. All his works read too reflective of himself and are too viscerally pathetic for anyone sane or healthy enough to relate. Men overpraise him as a byproduct of internally believing they’re also
victims of whatever makes them fucked up, even if it’s themselves. But it’s supposed to be self aware and depressingly “too real” or something. So disliking him is basically the same as disliking the scrotes that make up the majority of his audience, who are eerily similar to characters he writes about.
No. 147567
>>147548Asano's solanin and punpun are arguably good but not in the way the mainstream audience thinks. His other shit is complete garbage like
>>147551 says. It really doesn't help that the more works he puts out the more obvious his self insertion is.
No. 147576
>>147551>>147567Yeah it's what makes me wonder really, I think it was enjoyable enough for me to read everything so it's not bad in my opinion, but it should be enjoyed for what it is, an edgy manga about an edgy loser or whatever. Relating to punpun is where you should draw the line as a sane person, obviously.
Psychological mangas "for men" all have the same narrative, a mentally disturbed socially inept loser, the exploration of his poor vision of the women around him and just as fucked up opinion on sexuality. I don't think it's possible to relate to Punpun as a woman so the manga lose his original appeal and it's just horrifying to read when you take into consideration that the story is supposed to be "omg so true, my feelings exactly" for men.
>Men overpraise him as a byproduct of internally believing they’re also victims of whatever makes them fucked up, even if it’s themselves.True.
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nonnies, does tokyo revengers get more interesting? i'm at around chapter 85 and i'm starting to burn out because it's always the same shit.
>aw yiss let's change the future
>oh daaaamn this guy is bigcock mctoughguy from the meanie gang
>wow we managed to change the future
>handshake
>somehow it got worse
>handshake
>what the fuck am i doing!!!! i gotta change the future!!!!
>oh daaaamn it's musclehead d'évil from the salty spitoons
>etc
also i can barely remember any of the characters, they just blend together.
No. 147750
>>147576>>147567>>147548>>147551I loved Asano when I read most of his work around 2011. I was barely twenty then, I think. Judging by my experience with the 'I cheated on my perf mangaka wife w/ a high school student' manga, I would still enjoy Punpun etc. while being aware that the author (and most of his readers, of which I've been blissfully unaware at the time, as incel scrotes back then kept to harem and shonen anime) is a piece of shit.
I like Asano's work (please keep in mind I absolutely adore any work about mentally ill, even unsympathetic people who ruin everyone's lives, provided it's written well enough. Of course nowadays I prefer such work written for and by women). But I think that every femanon that hates him is 100%
valid and from a certain point of view, I also agree with each one of you.
>Psychological mangas "for men" all have the same narrative, a mentally disturbed socially inept loser, the exploration of his poor vision of the women around him and just as fucked up opinion on sexuality.This. I miss the time when I was blissfully unaware of this and though that anyone - men or woman - could relate to Punpun. Anyone fucked in the head, that is.
>Men overpraise him as a byproduct of internally believing they’re also victims of whatever makes them fucked up, even if it’s themselves.LMFAO yes.
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lmao the childhood friend is so based, i hope he doesnt get murdered
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>>147741i'm biased so i don't really know. arc you are on (the black dragons one) is good. but the formula will repeat itself
(shit future again- mikey going mental, new bad guy appeares to fuck things up) for next 100 pages and if you're really not into that and you're not intetested in the characters so far then i don't think you will start.
in my opinion second half of is better than the first one, tho, so you can try
No. 147912
>>147857thanks
nonny, i'm giving it another try. i'm now at the part where
takemichi flies to singapore and mikey tells him he killed everyone. i do like some of the characters, i just feel like there are so many that it's hard to really give them much attention outside of the mikey/takemichi/draken protagonist triangle. even draken seems sidelined a lot, but he's also my fave so maybe it's just me wanting to see the boo more.
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I just started reading Shiori Experience and I love it. I hope translation gets upkept and speedy!
>On her 27th birthday, "boring" high school teacher gets visited by the ghost of Jimi Hendrix, rediscovers her love for performing and decides to become a legendary musician (or die)
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>>148202The latest chapter, oh my god. Pure insanity.
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chunko no, you cant eat the FUCKING FISH !!!
No. 148623
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>>147798This part was so fucking funny. I was like FUCK HER UP!!! Bl route let's gooo
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>>148623He should win the Reijibowl. Harem lovers btfo. Everyone is such trash though I can't even hate sensei because her derangement is so funny.
No. 148688
>>148641Thanks but we still have 50 posts to go
>>148634I agree, Chako is best and she deserves better than Reiji. Still hope he necks himself. It drives me insane how all these women are obsessed with him. I know it's shit scrote manga, but I find Reiji insufferable.
Anyway I have managed to forget a lot of what happened until now and rereading last 10 chapters didn't help much. Can someone pls explain why the newest chapter was so significant?
No. 148744
>>148688See
>>148635Threads lock at 1218 on lolcowfarm desu
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Clare/Teresa
They are simply meant to be