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Fantasy Springs in Disneysea looks so pretty to me, they really nailed down the look
No. 383660
>>383657Oh and I also really want to go to Fuji Q highland
Japan has a lot of theme parks in general which I'd love to go to on my trip there (someday…) but obviously there's a lot of other stuff I'd also wanna do so I probably can only fit a few in hahaha.
If anyone who's been to Japan has any particular recommendations for parks though I'd love to hear them! But the Disney parks and Fuji Q are definitely the main ones I'm interested in.
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>>383669You do realize that there's lots of things for adults to enjoy at theme parks right?
At specifically Disney parks there's Nice hotels, Michelin star restaurants, fireworks, gardens, lots of non character based shopping, etc.
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Kek evermore closed last month.
No. 383687
>>383652I feel really lucky to live in the Midwest where there are so many theme parks. They don’t do a whole lot with the “theming” though so if you want atmosphere you still have to go to Orlando.
While I’m thinking about theme parks and the thread is new, I just wanted to say that I hate “screen rides”, dark rides with little actual movement that rely on screens to show you anything cool. The optical effects never seem to work very well for me, especially not the ones where they give you 3d glasses. Maybe my pupil distance is weird? I get that the parks I’m talking about (especially universal Orlando) are running low on growing room but I wish they’d do something more exciting.
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Has anyone here gone to European parks? I'm thinking Efteling
No. 383736
>>383660Hey nona, I'm also dreaming about going to Fuji Q, it seems so fun!
I assume you already know about USJ in Osaka as well. They have the typical Harry Potter and Jurassic Park rides that are super fun, and I felt like the overall vibe was a bit more relaxed and fun than at Disney. But there were a lot of gross weaaboo neckbeards in the Mario area, just a heads up if you want to visit.
I'm not sure if these can be fully considered amusement parks so forgive me, but in the spirit of fun rides, there's also Joypolis in Odaiba at Decks. It's worth a visit if you are already planning to be in the area, because it has a couple of fun rides. And Tokyo Dome City is also pretty easy to get to and has some fun rides, but it's also a hot date spot ( like a more accessible Disney).
I had lots of fun in vidrel, but I'm not from the USA so I don't know if this is mild/lame compared to what's over there. I hope you get to go to all of your dream spots soon!
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>>383652Finally a thread made purely for my autism!
>Favorite theme park(s)?I grew up going going to Disneyland Paris and Efteling, so those. I think nostalgia is a very big factor of theme park enjoyment
>Favorite rides?Pirates of the Caribbean and Big Thunder Mountain at Disney, but Droomvlucht at Efteling is so wonderful! Basically anything that's highly themed
>Are you a dark ride type of person or a thrill ride type of person?I definitely enjoy both, but I'll always prefer a highly themed dark ride more
>A theme park you really want to visit?Tokyo DisneySea and Phantasialand look gorgeous
>How many parks have you been to?I would say about 6 or 7? It's not like I'm keeping count, but it's a good amount of them spread around my country and a few abroad.
>Thoughts on disneybounding and similar?I think there's nothing wrong with it, it can be very cute! But personally it's not for me
>>383708Efteling is the beeeeest (obviously biased here). Fun coasters but mostly absolutely beautiful themeing. It actually feels comfy and magical compared to Disney's overly manufactured fantasy vibe. And the fairy tale forest is a nice time if you want to just be at ease and look at some nice scenery. It can be very easygoing compared to Disney's nightmare of planning.
No. 383760
>>383758I didn't think of that but there probably were some guys who got kinda creepy with the women who worked there…
Overly active actors is the type of thing that kind of works in theory but in practice at best leads to that small tumblr fandom of girls who liked Peter Pan actors (probably because they're regularly swapped out and women are less creepy) and at worst leads to stuff like guys who stalk workers at themed cafes and such.
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Alright nonnas, who are you
No. 383763
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>>383762Epcot
Better food, World showcase, I like the retro future vibe and there's a lot of nice areas to just hang out
The expansions they've done since I was last there look pretty incredible too like the ones in the China pavilion and the new sushi restaurant (the German pavilion is probably my favorite but that could change!)
Also magic kingdom is usually really crowded and for some reason people get into fist fights there.
No. 383802
I'm going to universal studios for my 30 birthday which is 2 years, so i have time to spend saving for it. I also want to revisit disney florida at one point, it think it will be fun going without having my family bring me down and i will be able to do what i want. I also really want to try eating at a fun restaurant. Very lucky to have family who live in florida who can get me discounts.
>>383762Magic kingdom is really ghetto even though i love the aesthetics of it. The crowding puts me off spending too much time there, i'd prefer to just walk around a bit then move on.
No. 383848
>>383672there's also even better versions of those things not inside a theme park made for families with children
>>383675i'll give that a pass because you can't exactly indulge that hobby without going to a theme park
>>383676the more money you make and the more money you can justify wasting on going to a children's playground, the sadder it is and the more i judge you. if you had better reading comprehension, you'd realize that i already said it's a dumb thing to waste money on versus others that would educate or culturally enrich a person.
>>383680it's relevant to the thread, nothing said this had to be entirely pro-theme park. i'm speaking about a very specific class of person who goes there. i'm not making another post in a thread you think is more appropriate lol who do you think you are
>>383712exactly, you get it
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If I ever have a daughter I really want to take her to Eftelling. I’ve watched YouTube videos of the fairytale rides and it’s like looking into my mind at 7 years old lol, I was so obsessed with fairy tales and fairies I would have transcended if I got to ride the dark ride in picrel. My parents never took me to theme parks because they were poor and jobless lol. But when I was 13 my brother took me to Alton Towers and I had the time of my life, I’m very thankful to him for providing me with experiences my lazy parents didn’t. If I ever have children I want to be like him and provide them with experiences I never got to have. Sometimes I go on the Eftelling website and fantasize about going there with my family, I imagine which rooms we’d book, where we’d eat, what rides my hypothetical kids might want to go on, what shows we’d watch etc.
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>>383918Aw that's really sweet. I hope you get to go one day!
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I've never been to a real theme park in my life (too poor third worlder) but I've always been curious about them. As a kid I remember going to some local museums and restaurants that were themed (not just for kids, mind you) and loving it, I don't think my fascination for places that look like something else would ever diminish just because I got older. It's fun! I would love to go one day. I also have a soft spot for those cute drinks and food type of stuff that you can find in restaurants all over the world (not just theme parks). Unironically though the park that I'm least interested in is Sanrio Puroland lol. Like it's cute but unless you are hardcore into Sanrio is there anything to do there at all? Still would love to go, it looks pretty. I just love themeing. There's so many things I would love to try that cynical people that perhaps do have the means just take for granted.
No. 384008
>>383981I love Sanrio but Sanrio puroland looks pretty bad, there’s like two rides (so the lines are always crazy long) and the food is well known to give people food poisoning because it’s so bad. I’m guessing people mostly go there for live shows and taking pictures, which is fair but Japan also has a lot of other theme parks you could do that at kek.
One of the two rides there is quite cute though.
No. 384229
>>384227>How can they justify this as "it's for a Japanese audience!" is beyond me.I really don't think Japanese people would be into this either kek, also I'm not a vegetarian but it was really strange to me that there wasn't really any vegetarian option?
I guess I'm sticking to Magellans kek.
No. 384253
>>383660Nagashima Spa Land if you go to the Chubu region. It’s the only park I’ve been to besides Disneysea in Japan but it was great because lines were short for great coasters.
Speaking of DisneySea, I went alone and it sucked ass. 2.5 hour lines standing around kids dressed like eachother, for lame rides. Never again. I think worth if you’re with friends though.
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>>384270The desserts and drinks are probably safe, but apparently the other food is real fucking bad. Looks wise, taste wise and health wise.
No. 384277
>>384274The last review is killing me.
>Maybe you like children.Definitely lost in translation but it comes across as a scathing attack kek
No. 384429
>>383754 >Phantasialand look gorgeousDon't go. Don't. Save your money. Local here and it's a terrible park these days. It used to be nice but these days it is just sad, an entire section of the park is closed down, it is still closing down rides and the ones that are left are mostly thrill rides.
Europapark is a lot nicer, think Disney's Epcot without the Disney branding.
No. 385643
>>385640Nta but nona is right, i've never seen an accomplished, mentally stable disney adult. They're always some kind of dysgenic creatures.
It's okay to like disney even as an adult but when you make it an important part of your personality, something's weird. I'm sure there are exceptions, but the rule exist.
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>>383669idk why this comment got so much hate. you clearly specified "more than occasionally" and i agree. but then again, i can't fathom spending that much just to go to the parks. honestly though if it was cheaper and i lived nearby i'd go pretty often because i fucking love some of the coasters. wish they were more easily accessible. i have fantasies of being rich and living near a big theme park and just going to ride coasters all fucking day to clear my mind.
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>People ITT
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>>385663Reminds me of this famous copypasta
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Cherry picked as fuck but I still laughed.
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>>385672KEKK yeah me and my friend were giggling about it, i imagine she must have been seething to be stuck there with her whining child while the two of us were hanging out with no cares in the world
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>>383759There's a bit at the end I want to highlight, because it's the reason I have zero interest in ever going to a Disney park again. Over the course of the last ten years, Disney went from having lots of things be part of the cost of the on-site hotel package (fastpasses, magic bands, parking, etc.) to nickel-and-diming people for absolutely everything, all while cutting the number of character actors in the park and raising prices. They were doing the shrinkflation and austerity bullshit long before any other company. They used to pretend to care about giving people a better quality experience than other parks, which is what made the price tag worth it in the past. Now they've gotten complacent, they're confident that people will pay higher and higher prices for worse products because they've successfully made their parks an obligatory thing for every family.
All this is going on while other parks are giving Disney a real run for their money, most notably Universal, who poached all of the former Imagineers who quit because they were pissed off at what Disney parks were becoming. Wizarding World totally takes Magic Kingdom to the cleaners, and has even outperformed it financially some years.
Picrel encapsulates it all really well. This is a ten dollar "piece" of cake someone ordered at the Blue Bayou.
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>>385688Samefag, picrel is what the same menu item looked like before.
No. 385713
>>383759That was very interesting, thank you for sharing nonna
>>385662>so much hate 3/6 anons disagreed and only one of the replies would qualify as "hate". Plus later on OP said only technology entertainment fanatics had a "pass" kek. Why would someone who can't imagine theme parks being entertaining post itt
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>>389320The fall makes no sense now. The new stuff looks great (feels like frozen as in its empty and needs more to it), but I don't get why Disney keeps wasting its time on refacing shit like this and not invest back into rides to make them work. Or do new fucking rides you have all this fucking land.(so fucking lazy and greedy)Last time hubby and I went here was for my birthday 2 years ago (for free never giving them money if I can help it) and rides were trashed. Jungle cruise had actual trash on the land areas all throughout, paint was chipping and scratched badly on tons of rides. On top of everyone looks fucking miserable (from workers to families) now a days that go, shit cost too much from tickets to food and merch, lines are too long, and its just not fun. (on top of shit pay)
They wasted too much time jerking off with Disney+ during covid to make a comeback, The new Universal park is going to wipe them out and I hope it humbles them and makes them realize the money should have always gone back into the parks and rides. Disney really needs to take a page from Tokyo Disney and bring that magic back.
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Going to Busch Gardens VA today. I'm hype. I've been to 4 so far all in the states and my favorite so far has been Hersheypark with the number of good thrill rides. I really love coasters and missed out as a kid and making up for lost time now that I have the freedom and money. Really hoping to get to Cedar Point hopefully later this year and I'll have 6 parks and it's rated the top and has the most intense coasters. Disney is overrated and overpriced, the rides aren't even that great.
>>383669I'm using my hard earned money to enjoy some roller coasters, why would that even bother you? Let me have my one autistic interest in peace lol
No. 392303
>>389607>Der Autobahnstop misgendering her, it's DIE AUTOBAHN
What's the 'Verbolten' attraction?
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>>394030That's excellent news for everyone
inclunding the people itt that want a more mature yet still family friendly theme park experience. I wasn't expecting this to be so cool looking, I wasn't so sure about it at first because I thought they would play the old horror movie aspect of it pretty straightforwardly but now I think this perfect for people who love fun horror attractions. It's less niche than the other properties on the land as well, and although technically still based on multiple IPs it doesn't feel like it, it's less infantilized. Also kek at the vampire stake restaurant I hope to see some real larping goths in there
picrel lmao No. 394040
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>>394030sorry that my mind goes places but someone really needs to cosplaybound picrel in there please it would be so perfect
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>>390012>>390243Reporting back 2 weeks later and I also went to Hersheypark since then! Busch Gardens Williamsburg was a lot of fun; it's a really gorgeous park. They had a food and wine festival when I went, and some of the food from different countries was really yummy. Otherwise, the regular food was meh. I also recommend making it a two-day trip to visit the nearby water park called Water Country USA, which has great slides and tube rides.
>Alpengeist Normally, I love inverted coasters, but I greyed out too many times on this one and felt it was too rough to enjoy. Maybe if I rode it more, I would've liked it, but it was really hot when I went, and I was probably dehydrated, which didn't help.
>Apollo's Chariot Simple and smooth with beautiful greenery, and you feel like you're floating on the drops-no complaints! There's a backstory about Fabio getting clipped by a bird in the face on it. (Pic related, spoilered due to blood.)
>DarKoaster An okay inside dark ride that I would only really recommend if you have a fast pass or the lines are short - if you wait a long time you'll likely be disappointed. It's a great ride for cooling off in the hot and humid Virginian heat and the snowmobiles are well designed and comfortable.
>Escape from Pompei and Le ScootThe 2 water/log flume style rides in the park, you don't really get that wet on either but they're both still good.
>GriffonAMAZING! Definitely one of my favorites, I highly recommend riding front or back row on the edges. You get a really good view of the park and lots of airtime. If you ride in the very back though you might get a little wet as a heads up!
>InvadRUsually a big fan of wooden coasters but this one was just okay, I think I would've liked it more if it wasn't so short.
>Loch Ness MonsterThe only roller coaster in the world left with interlocking loops. You can tell it's pretty old but it's alright and it has updated themeing.
>PantheonIncredible, 10/10. Very strong, lots of airtime, and it has a lot going on. Super fun and it just really got me with the launch backwards then forwards before you go up a hill.
>TempestoAlmost feels intense just for the sake of it, I think I would've liked it more if the harness/train wasn't so uncomfortable. Kind of disappointing but still worth a try if you like intense coasters.
>VerboltenSuper cool ride, I like that part of it is indoor/dark and the drop. Great view on this one too over the water. It does kind of remind me of Hagrid's Motorbike Adventure and I wonder if they were inspired by Verbolten.
>>392303LMAO, I have to say, for a park themed on European countries, there were quite a few missed opportunities.
>>392292I've never been, let me know how it is! I really want to go on the Intimidator.
No. 394155
>>392292I want more nonna theme park reviews so please share your experience!
>>394059Thank you nonna! If you have more to say about Hershey please share!
No. 394315
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Just learnt today that they lost (read: demolished) this incredible mural in Epcot and corporate greed wasn't smart enough to preserve it. Like, this mural was absolutely fantastic. This tumblr post goes more in detail about it
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>>394059>inverted coastersIn my experience those tend to be the roughest of the bunch, I tend to avoid them if possible. Last time I went on one I really felt it in my neck afterwards. I've only ever felt myself greying out once, on a boomerang coaster. That cobra roll can get pretty forceful, especially backwards.
>>394315This is gorgeous! It's really sad stuff like this does not get proper appreciation just because it is in a theme park. Imagine they ever tore down this famous Mary Blair mural at the Contemporary Resort because they wanna force more Disney characters in there. I would go insane
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>>394316I have insane respect for Mary Blair for all the incredible work she did not only for disney parks as an imagineer but also as a female illustrator. I really look up to her!
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The handwich needs to come back, look how delicious this shit looks
No. 397893
>>397890I didn't buy much at universal when I went last year, is everyone still wearing those stupid furry hats? I'll pass on that kek.
tbh the Harry Potter World tour in tokyo is 1000x better than universal's HP World. No rides because it's about the making of the movies but in terms of merch and photo ops and generally being interesting it's soo much better.
No. 397898
>>397893>tbh the Harry Potter World tour in tokyo is 1000x better than universal's HP World.I went to the one near London two years ago, it was really good. I went there with a friend who also likes HP a lot so it was even better and we were taking pictures of each other and together, meanwhile I went to Universal alone because organizing a huge trip like this with friends is too expensive and complicated.
>is everyone still wearing those stupid furry hats? No but it was raining a lot so maybe that's why. But I saw a lot of these Mickey ears like accessories, but with minions or the mushrooms from the Mario games or the characters from BNHA because of an event about that manga. Since they weren't imitating cutesy mascot ears they looks weird so I didn't get the appeal.
No. 397963
>>397890The nintendo area looks really cool, but very poorly designed. With all of those little minigames you can play I would imagine lines forming at them, which get in the way of the regular park goers and causes massive congestion and overcrowding. Was that the case?
Also, did you go on the flying coaster in the Jurassic Park area? I've heard it's crazy intense
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https://www.wdwmagic.com/attractions/villains-land/news/11aug2024-massive-new-villains-land-announced-for-walt-disney-worlds-magic-kingdom.htmLots of news for Disney parks this weekend, including a Villains park! I like the dark feeling this land has. Thoughts on this and the rest of the news?
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>>409086That's pretty much exactly what they announced lol, two rides and shopping/dining. But that's how literally every theme park is so I don't see the issue. My only hope is they don't screw themselves over with budget cuts and have to scale back like they often have to do. They are fully aware this land is their golden goose with how rabid people have been about wanting it, so I hope this makes them really want to nail it. I'm very excited for the coaster you can see on the left/bottom, I hope since this is in a darker part of the park they're gonna make it a bit more forceful than their usual stuff.
Also the Monsters Inc. door coaster looks great too, and I'm happy it's finally happening. They've had this idea for 20 years.
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>>409112They're giving so much money out to the construction of several new cruise ships so I'm kind of iffy on this
https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/shipbuilding-equipment/its-official-disney-cruise-line-build-four-new-shipsThey're going to half-ass everything in the parks and the cruise ships because they don't have enough money nor hands for all of it despite being a billion dollar company and they'll keep making shit tier movies like wish and lion king while cancelling every other animated project ever
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>>409082My hope for this new land is that they'll make it as pretty and detailed as fantasy springs. It feels like a direct reply to Universal's new land as well. We'll see if it'll hold up.
I'm also excited for the new Encanto area. I love Latin American themed things (I'm hispanic), but for some reason they always feel so fake and forced inside themed parks to the point that it makes me uncomfortable. Maybe the added whimsy and colorfulness will make for it, and I did enjoy that movie way more than any other recent disney/pixar movie we've been seeing in recent years.
Encanto is better than the red panda movie, sorry.>>403920I agree to be honest. Tiana is super cute and I love her but there's something off with the new ride. It's cute but it feels soulless. I can't pin point as to why because I never cared about the original ride that much.
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They're getting rid of the Rivers of America and Tom Sawyer Island to build the cars rides at Magic Kingdom
I hate it I hate it I hate it I hate it I hate it
No. 411293
>>411117about to sperg the hell out but ghibli park nagoya is absolutely overrated. i lived not too far from nagakute (where this park is located, it's around 45min by subway + linimo from JR nagoya) and everyone i know who went genuinely didn't care for it all too much and found the pricing/passes to be downright ridiculous. also you needed to book several months in advance and that can be a nightmare and a half if you aren't a resident or have zero experience with japanese booking services/conbini payment.
nagoya/aichi prefecture in general isn't well-known for having crazy good theme parks, but if you're going there for something like that… legoland is where it's at. ultimately though other theme parks like tokyo disney land/sea & usj in osaka are better. i'd even rec the tokyo ghibli museum over ghibli park. that's how much of a hater i am
No. 411347
>>411293No the fuck way was there another Aichi farmer! I’m in Nagoya (unfortunately)
Never went to Legoland as it looks like it’s too kiddy and not fun but I love Nagashima Spa Land. I don’t love that it’s comparable in price to my home theme parks in America yet way smaller and only operational until 4:30pm. Ridiculous
No. 411860
>>411117I was supposed to go there with a friend in 2020 but we failed to get tickets on time and then the park was closed because of the pandemic so it was for the best. I never tried to go there again, it really was just for my friend, I'm not that into Ghibli movies to begin with.
>>411266You can't even take pictures iirc, except for a few specific things.
>>411293>>411347Since you're in Aichi I've seen some Japanese women on twitter posting pictures of their day in Meiji Mura once on my TL, it didn't look amazing or anything unless you're into history but I wonder if you heard about it or even went there?
No. 412025
>>411347holy shit kek i actually never got a chance to visit nagashima, but i heard a lot of good about it aside from the timings obviously. i also kinda liked the botanical gardens out in higashiyama, was very nice for an evening stroll.
>>411860i've not been, but some peers of mine did for a uni trip. as a bit of a history/japanese religion nerd i reaaaally wanted to check it out, but i had stuff on that day. inuyama in general has such beautiful historical landmarks and is so worth checking out if you're keen on that kind of thing
No. 413212
>>411860I’ve been to Meijimura, I like it a lot. But I love Meiji and Taisho stuff so
>>412025I love the botanical garden part but I will not go as it gives the horrible zoo party money, even if it’s only 500yen.
No. 413440
>>413254I haven't explored too much myself but enjoyed some temple locations when I went last time, there are some located in mountains (such as Yongmunsa) which make for beautiful scenery and walks, especially in the fall. I'm also planning on checking out Gyeongju and Jeonju in my upcoming trip which is full of traditional architecture. Since this is the theme park thread, I'm planning on checking out a small theme park in Gyeongju which probably isn't an "impressive" theme park by any means, but I get a huge kick out of random empty theme parks Korea seems to have.
Also for relevance, I wanted to look into Yongma Land, an abandoned theme park. Sorry I can't give you a megalist but I do know they're out there, just takes a bit of digging.
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Any Nonas gone to Cedar Point? When did you go and what was it like?
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>>439842If you'd be going to Florida for Disney World why would you be outside of the park going to the beach? You would be too busy for that. And you're wondering about ONE day? Did you expect to go to the beach and visit all four parks in a day? Kek. Also going to the beach and eating is like what anyone does on any trip anywhere, so why are you apprehensive about doing it in Florida? Not going to Disney World is doing yourself a huge disservice. Especially since you're complaining about line times. The lines at Disney World move quickly. You honestly sound clueless about what you want and travel. In regards to food, did you expect it to be cheap/free to eat anywhere? Double kek at wanting to visit Las Vegas which is a total shithole. I guess you can definitely eat cheap and travel cheap there…
>>439841Literally my thoughts exactly. Huge Europoor moment. Her posts don't make any sense.
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