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Anonymous 05/25/24 (Sat) 05:42:10 PM No. 386335

>>386058
>What do you nonnies think, do you think this will impact next year's edition in any way?
I think the only way the EBU will kick out Israel is if their contract with Moroccanoil ends this year and artists/their country’s broadcasters spend the summer still pushing them to answer for everything that happened this year.

They’ll definitely have to review how staff and artists interact with each other after Joost. Hoping we see a lawsuit from AVROTROS against the EBU this summer.

I think they also need to do a better job of vetting journalists and make clear boundaries for them. The behavior I saw this year primarily from Israeli journalists was appalling and completely unprofessional. Unprofessional behavior should lead to journalists being kicked from the venue/having their press credentials revoked

Anonymous 05/25/24 (Sat) 05:47:07 PM No. 386337

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>>386335
Moroccanoil is confirmed as a sponsor for 2025. https://eurovision.moroccanoil.com/

Anonymous 05/25/24 (Sat) 06:37:22 PM No. 386350

>>386337
Of course lmfao

Anonymous 05/25/24 (Sat) 08:32:27 PM No. 386373

>>386302
man that would have been such good dramu. and we would have been spared that themoid

Anonymous 05/25/24 (Sat) 09:07:49 PM No. 386384

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I'm in two Whatsapp groups that are saying we should get tickets to her Halloween show

Anonymous 05/25/24 (Sat) 09:16:02 PM No. 386386

>>386384
Tbh that dumbass nonbinary shit aside I thought her performance was pretty cool. I'd consider going if the ticket prices aren't too expensive.

Anonymous 05/25/24 (Sat) 09:16:47 PM No. 386387

>>386384
you should do it

Anonymous 05/25/24 (Sat) 09:18:19 PM No. 386388

>>386386
>>386387
It should be pretty cheap like €30 for that venue. I'd imagine the crowd will be insufferable though

Anonymous 05/25/24 (Sat) 09:20:40 PM No. 386391

>>386388
A goth witch in the Academy on Halloween sounds good tbh, but I don't want non binaries getting my money kek

Anonymous 05/25/24 (Sat) 10:10:55 PM No. 386425

>>386388
Do it to people-watch, bring back stories.

Anonymous 05/25/24 (Sat) 11:23:20 PM No. 386449

>>386384
ugh king tuts is an awful venue

Anonymous 05/25/24 (Sat) 11:59:51 PM No. 386462

>>386384
Hm. I might go to the Manchester one as a hatewatch

Anonymous 05/26/24 (Sun) 05:41:03 AM No. 386529

>>386388
Oh fair, that's a good point lmao

Anonymous 05/26/24 (Sun) 06:11:51 AM No. 386533

>>386386
someone has to pay for the surgeries.

Anonymous 05/26/24 (Sun) 06:51:33 AM No. 386542

>>386533
I doubt she’ll get surgery. She’s nb not ftm

Anonymous 05/26/24 (Sun) 07:33:19 AM No. 386549

do you think they will remove israel next year?

Anonymous 05/26/24 (Sun) 07:42:12 AM No. 386550

>>386549
I fucking wish. It seems like they have one more year left of their contract with Moroccanoil. If they’re smart, they won’t renew and will then kick Israel. Or maybe we’ll get lucky and they’ll decide since there’s only one year left, who cares about pissing off their sponsor?

Anonymous 05/26/24 (Sun) 07:50:47 AM No. 386551

>>386549
I don't think they will unless a significant amount of broadcasters threaten to withdraw.

Anonymous 05/26/24 (Sun) 08:31:54 AM No. 386554

>>386550
Hopefully by then the war will be over.

>>386549
This >>386551 (that's what happened with Russia too) and I'm starting to think that may become a real possibility given the shitshow partially caused by Israel behind the scenes this year

Anonymous 05/26/24 (Sun) 01:06:28 PM No. 386590

>>386549
Not a chance. Israel was the main sponsor with Moroccanoil (the name is misleading). I could see them removing themselves though.

Anonymous 05/26/24 (Sun) 02:05:16 PM No. 386604

>>386590
Why would they voluntarily leave? ESC is a fantastic source of soft power propoganda for them.

Anonymous 05/26/24 (Sun) 02:08:05 PM No. 386605

>>386604
That only works if it's going well. There was tonnes of clips shared on Twitter and Tiktok of people booing their performers and votes

Anonymous 05/26/24 (Sun) 02:24:10 PM No. 386608

>>386605
They don’t care about that. They love to play the triumphant victim. They cry about booing and “bullying” then pay thousands to get their diaspora vote and get a top 5 finish for them to brag about

Anonymous 05/26/24 (Sun) 07:46:44 PM No. 386700

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how do they keep calling this ugly unstylish creature gorgeous sorry to that one anon that thinks he is cute

Anonymous 05/26/24 (Sun) 07:56:08 PM No. 386706

>>386700
literally just an ugly moid with makeup kek. these people are so brain dead. i cant believe croatia lost to this thing

Anonymous 05/26/24 (Sun) 08:00:24 PM No. 386707

>>386706
why can't they make him look at least a bit better kek

he was 5th in public vote so idgaf about baby lasagna losing to him. shit's rigged to its core

Anonymous 05/26/24 (Sun) 08:00:41 PM No. 386708

>>386700
if they wanted to thirst over an enby moid, they could at least go for silvester belt, he's nowhere near as inbred-looking as this specimen kek

Anonymous 05/27/24 (Mon) 10:04:20 AM No. 386928

>>386707
Manbys are never styled in an attractive androgynous way, they’re always made to look as ugly as possible for some reason.

Anonymous 05/27/24 (Mon) 11:31:15 AM No. 386948

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>>386700
>skill level of a 6 year old playing with toy makeup

Anonymous 05/27/24 (Mon) 11:50:48 AM No. 386952

>>386700
even just the 3/4 of a face in the back looks 10 times better than him, he's so pug faced

Anonymous 05/30/24 (Thu) 10:24:18 PM No. 387881

I don't know about you nonnas, but as someone who used to watch the show to get a good laugh at the performances (costumes, and choreography included) since 2010 to forget that the votes and results are tedious and bullshit anyway, I didn't really "farm a lot of keks" this year, except for drinking myself silly to remain in good spirits and awake up until 1-2am.
I'm considering not staying up for the results next year, because it's left me absolutely gutted and unable to fall asleep without checking out Twitter reactions forever to feel vindicated etc., since at least 2019 tbh.
It might be me getting old saying that but anyone else considering the same for 2025?

Anonymous 05/31/24 (Fri) 05:06:45 AM No. 387930

>>387881
It’s not just you. I haven’t enjoyed the full show from start to finish since 2021. 2022 had pity televoting for Ukraine. 2023 had a clearly rigged jury. 2024 had a clearly rigged jury and mass Israeli diaspora televoting for the most boring song. It’s just not fun anymore

Anonymous 05/31/24 (Fri) 07:02:50 AM No. 387949

>>387881
I think most people who follow the contest for a long time feel this way. I remember back in the day when I was actually excited about the results, supporting my favourite countries, hoping they would do as well as I'd expect. Yes, block voting was and is a thing but people genuinely voted for what they liked. As years went by and especially since the war in Ukraine, things have been way less exciting for me. Yes I love following the contest to find new singers and music, but the finals themselves are so anticlimatic. This year, before the bookmakers closed the bets, Croatia had over 50% chance of winning and they had to crush it by pushing the gendie. It would be so cool if he actually won. And let's not even talk about the disqualification fiasco. Pure bs. I know some anons still think Joost did something terrible, but I'm pretty sure that's not the case otherwise they wouldn't be so vague about it. And Joost recently asked for extra witnesses from the Nehterlands or something so it seems like whatever "investigation" happened was pretty half-assed and against him. I've seen some video of Bambie Thug saying there's an investigation going on and she can't talk for now but when she can, she will. Can't wait kek

Anonymous 05/31/24 (Fri) 10:53:35 AM No. 387981

>>387930
>clearly rigged jury
People keep saying this with no evidence to back it up

Anonymous 05/31/24 (Fri) 11:06:56 AM No. 387984

>>387881
>>387930
>I haven’t enjoyed the full show from start to finish since 2021
I feel the opposite. Looking back like 10 years the quality of the songs and performances were so shit, I always used to be bored with 90% of the songs and at most like 2-3 songs. The last 4 or so years maybe I've loved the show so much, I've enjoyed watching all of it even if I didn't like all songs. And there's significantly more songs I do actually enjoy now. The political stuff is annoying of course, but I guess since I never really care who wins it's not too big of a problem to me.

I think one of the best ways to enjoy the show is to quit all social media, literally don't read any of it, and just watch it with your friends. If you hadn't checked social media you wouldn't have known about the joost stuff or that israel was booed by the crowd. It would just have looked like a nice fun show.

Anonymous 05/31/24 (Fri) 11:20:41 AM No. 387989

>>387981
Nta. There's no evidence but strong suspicions. It's not like EBU is going to give us the facts on a silver platter.

>>387881
It's been less fun to me ever since I discovered betting odds a few years ago and how scarily accurate they are. There's a few misses every year obviously but they're at least 75% accurate. The show gets largely decided before it even takes place.

That said the song quality has gone up sooooo much in recent years.

Anonymous 05/31/24 (Fri) 07:00:41 PM No. 388076

>>387881
Samefag here
>>387984
Tbh, I don't check out ESC shit before the finale though, because I wanna be surprised at the finale on purpose, so as to not get spoiled of the fun. I even only heard about the Netherlands during the show when it jumped from contestant number four to number six suddenly. But, like I said, since 2019 if not 2018, the show has lost me because the actual fun has been put on the back burner to use songs, contestants and/or moderators to send insert whatever message that is mostly biased if not as vapid as Miss USA wishing "World peace" out there.

Quality is a question of perspective and that's another thing we can argue about. Admittedly there were some older editions with ballads that bored me to tears too. But there were also other contestants that brought the fun spirit of what ESC represents to me, as someone who started watching on the year of Epic Sax Guy.
Quality and fun are not necessarily mutual exclusive, but I find very little quality music every new edition as far as my personal tastes go, and I see no fun, only big performances that want to rival with Beyonce's Superbowl performance from three years ago (if not more) and I don't care for that shit.

So yeah, even if you were meaning well, whatever you said didn't exactly concern my case, I only ever check out social media after the shit storm of the results pissed me off again, to see if I'm the only one feeling that way.
But now I'm tired of being aggravated and deprived of a good night sleep because of a tedious hour and a half of a nothing burger.

Anonymous 05/31/24 (Fri) 11:43:26 PM No. 388124

>>387984
>If you hadn't checked social media you wouldn't have known about the joost stuff or that israel was booed by the crowd. It would just have looked like a nice fun show.
I know what you mean and it's 100% true but having known what was going on it feels almost like what you suggested isnt real like ones amusement would be based on a false picture,
i know this is true for a lot of things like when you find out one of the actors from a favourite film you had as a child was later revealed to be a sex pest or when you have a friend who you later find out is a shitty person, it makes you feel like the enjoyment was based on a lie

Anonymous 06/01/24 (Sat) 04:06:10 AM No. 388169

>>387981
So many songs in 2023 and 2024 were snubbed to such a severe degree that it makes the integrity of the juries as a whole feel questionable. Despite that I'm still not in the abolish the jury camp. Instead I really think juries need to be overhauled. Most countries have 5 jurors typically with a pop/classical background or are loosely related to the music industry like radio show host or talent show judge. I think each country’s jury needs to be expanded to 7-10 jurors and be required to have jurors affiliated with more genres than just pop/classical (rock background, opera background, jazz, punk, etc.) It wouldn’t have to be the same genres every year, but just a variety requirement in general would help a lot to get a more well rounded vote instead of a massive echo chamber. As it currently is, there was a clear runaway winner both in 2023/2024. If they were weak years it would be understandable, but both years were musically strong in my opinion.

Anonymous 06/01/24 (Sat) 04:53:19 AM No. 388183

>>387984
Sorry when I say enjoy the show from start to finish, I didn’t mean the songs were bad. I agree that song quality, staging, and performances have greatly increased in quality in recent years. I just haven’t been able to enjoy the voting sequence. It’s an hour long which is 25% of the show. It used to be fun and would keep you guessing who would win until the end, but the past few years it’s been so obvious who the winner was going to be that the last quarter of the show wasn’t very enjoyable to me

Anonymous 06/01/24 (Sat) 07:59:00 AM No. 388191

>>388076
>no fun, only big performances that want to rival with Beyonce's Superbowl performance from three years ago
Estonia? Netherlands? Finland? Croatia? Norway? Slovenia? Spain? Belgium? We had so many performances that were fun and/or not a bombastic "girlbop"

Anonymous 06/01/24 (Sat) 08:03:41 AM No. 388193

>>388183
>It used to be fun and would keep you guessing who would win until the end, but the past few years it’s been so obvious who the winner was going to be
Do you follow ESC online/look at the betring odds online beforehand? I feel like I would've never guessed Switzerland or Croatia would go top 3, Loreen and Unicorn top 3 last year etc.

Anonymous 06/02/24 (Sun) 05:19:42 AM No. 388424

>>388191
I'll agree on Estonia. Croatia I wouldn't consider "fun" but I looked up the Metal band that Baby Lasagna used to be part of before thanks to it, I would say the same for Norway. But that's about it.
I didn't have "fun" watching Spain, Netherlands I didn't get to see because I don't watch the selection rounds to not spoil the finale, same for Belgium, and Slovenia wasn't my cup of tea.

I've watched fourteen editions in a row and only truly found ten contestants from the different finales to have good and/or fun songs that I can still listen to now.
We can argue about what quality and fun means. Again. But that's moot because that's a personal tastes thing.

Anonymous 06/02/24 (Sun) 01:45:20 PM No. 388469

>>388193
Idk I thought Switzerland this year and Loreen last year were pretty obvious jury bait

>>388424
I’m curious. What are the 10 songs you’ve truly liked?

Anonymous 06/02/24 (Sun) 01:56:40 PM No. 388470

>>388424
>watched fourteen editions in a row
lmfao anon

Anonymous 06/12/24 (Wed) 02:29:34 PM No. 391719

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Some very unexpected, but good news for all of us Jann stans. Obviously this changes nothing for 2023, but the transparency will be nice

Anonymous 07/01/24 (Mon) 03:43:57 PM No. 396885

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they really said a whole bunch of nothing with this

Anonymous 07/01/24 (Mon) 04:09:29 PM No. 396887

the "threatened to withdraw at the last moment" story was fake and the majority of the rumored delegations denied considering such a thing in different interviews. I think by now it's pretty obvious the "problems" this year came from a few cluster b contestants doing the cluster b thing combined with online misinformation and delulu stan behavior.

Anonymous 07/01/24 (Mon) 05:04:20 PM No. 396897

>>396885
Can we have a bunch of broadcasters drop out already, I want to see drama

Anonymous 07/05/24 (Fri) 01:56:10 AM No. 397909

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Please please please please. I want all the microstates to join

Anonymous 07/05/24 (Fri) 11:19:21 AM No. 397999

>>397909
>Liechtenstein
>Population 40k
The university I go to has more students than Liechtenstein has citizens kek. I wonder if they're planning on a similiar scheme San Marino does to make money for their broadcaster (the pay a big entry fee for your audition and the winner funds their participation themselves)

Anonymous 07/05/24 (Fri) 06:52:49 PM No. 398127

>>397999
Idk I mean Liechtenstein has a way higher gdp per capita than San Marino. I could see them doing something like that down the line, but if this is their first ever year in Eurovision then I think they would try to do something really special for their premiere

Anonymous 07/06/24 (Sat) 09:53:17 PM No. 398442

Do any of you have artists that you would love to see at esc in the future?

For Italy I would love to see Margherita Vicario or M¥SS KETA. And for Estonia I want to see the band Night Tapes (although with their dreamy sound I could see them ending up like Sudden Lights and just barely missing the cut off for the grand final)

Anonymous 07/06/24 (Sat) 09:56:18 PM No. 398444

>>398442

Anonymous 07/06/24 (Sat) 10:02:08 PM No. 398445

>>398444

Anonymous 07/12/24 (Fri) 02:14:55 PM No. 400819

Käärijä and Joost collabed on a song.

Anonymous 07/12/24 (Fri) 06:12:55 PM No. 400910

>>400819
came here to post about it, here is the vid

Anonymous 07/12/24 (Fri) 07:01:41 PM No. 400926

>>400910
Lol nice. Fun high energy vid. The end was mysterious tho. Hope they collab more.

Anonymous 07/12/24 (Fri) 07:36:15 PM No. 400938

>>400910
Absolute banger. Big fan.

Anonymous 07/12/24 (Fri) 08:10:33 PM No. 400944

>>400910
he also made a song about his eurovision experience

Anonymous 08/07/24 (Wed) 08:24:44 PM No. 408015

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Montenegro is returning next year

Anonymous 08/07/24 (Wed) 08:26:55 PM No. 408017

>>408015
They need to stop saying the N word for that.

Anonymous 08/07/24 (Wed) 08:37:34 PM No. 408026

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>>408017
That "joke" was never funny

In other news since this thread got bumped, Joost is coming to the US. The fact he has tour dates for the US and not my country/a country close to mine is annoying kek.

Anonymous 08/11/24 (Sun) 06:03:49 AM No. 408948

>>408026
Lol wow two whole dates. Nothing to be salty about

Anonymous 08/13/24 (Tue) 11:48:06 AM No. 409636

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gep5qzlxeo
Joost ha been cleared of all wrongdoing

Anonymous 08/18/24 (Sun) 08:08:31 AM No. 411077

>>408026
It's just two dates but still an Eurovision act who doesn't even sing in English or Spanish making it across the pond on ESC clout alone is pretty wild.

>>409636
How much you wanna bet Netherlands isn't participating next year now that he's officially proven not guilty?

Anonymous 08/18/24 (Sun) 08:14:29 AM No. 411078

>>411077
Samefag but considering he didn't even participate in the final that's even wilder.

Anonymous 08/22/24 (Thu) 06:05:57 PM No. 412467

>>411078
europapa has more views on youtube than the winner

Anonymous 09/11/24 (Wed) 10:12:49 AM No. 414624

Cyprus already selected and revealed their participant for 2025. It's some guy called Theo Evan

Anonymous 09/11/24 (Wed) 01:58:40 PM No. 414693

>>414624
So glad Cyprus announced this early. I’ve been so parched for esc content. His music seems pretty boring/bland, but he seems like he can sing and dance, so they’ll probably find some good writers and producers to pair him up with

Anonymous 11/09/24 (Sat) 02:14:03 PM No. 430811

Man 2024 had such great songs and performances, I really wonder how and if 2025 is going to top it! I know a few people cry about stupid politics but it's just really so much fun to get to see songs performed in different languages every year and the stage in Sweden was used amazingly for visual effects.

I know it's early but does anyone wanna play predictions with what next years trends will be? Usually mediocre countries ape after the previous winner, so I think unfortunately there will be a bunch of no-effort enby troons who sing about their totally deep amazing journey to discover that they're not a Real Man/Woman because they like to sometimes wear a skirt and nail polish (but only while cameras are on them, they're genderfluid like that).

I think the Netherlands will still participate, because if they don't nobody will miss them anyway. I mean if I asked "did you miss Denmark in the big final this year?" most people would go "huh, didn't even notice they were gone". People only really keep track of their own country. And Joost got a lot of support (despite having a very shit song kek) so they'd just give up on that momentum instead of using it, and if they wait an extra year literally nobody will remember he even got banned.

Anonymous 11/09/24 (Sat) 02:49:52 PM No. 430818

>>414624
This is why North Cyprus is the superior Cyprus. Fuck this fag

Anonymous 11/09/24 (Sat) 03:08:25 PM No. 430824

>>430818
kek why, details?

>>430811
Netherlands will participate, they've confirmed it already. Apparantly Anouk (2013 I think?) wants to come back and people are big mad about it because she made a post on twitter with a picture of a used tampon and some anti-men-in-wigs statement along with it lol

Anonymous 11/09/24 (Sat) 03:11:19 PM No. 430827

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>>430824
Samefag found it. Spoilered it because the picture is kind of gross but kek I love her

Anonymous 11/09/24 (Sat) 03:32:37 PM No. 430830

Remember this robbed song? The singer is going to try for ESC again in Montenegro's new national final later this month.

Who wants to watch that NF? It's on the 27th, not sure what time. I bet it'll be budget tier production but I'm sure it'll be fun.

Anonymous 11/09/24 (Sat) 03:33:59 PM No. 430831

>>430830
Samefag actually I don't know if it'll even be watchable from abroad now that I think about it

Anonymous 11/09/24 (Sat) 04:15:04 PM No. 430836

>>430824
Oh my god I would love an open terf in ESC! I'm sure depending on how woke the host country/audience is the audience would boo her though.

The ESC this year surprisingly had a live audience of mostly brits despite not being held in the UK, explaining why Israel got booed to hell while people of Europe actually voted for them enough to make it too the top songs.