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No. 405991
>FromSoftware, Inc. is a Japanese video game development company founded in November 1986 and a subsidiary of Kadokawa Corporation. The company is best known for their Armored Core and Souls series, including the related games Bloodborne, Sekiro, and Elden Ring.Talk about Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Sekiro, and Elden Ring, Armored Core or any other Fromsoft games you like here! Help each other out, post pics of your protagonists, talk about your favorite pieces of lore, your husbandos/waifus, etc.
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>>197446 No. 406000
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After 11 painful hours spread over 3 days, I finally beat the final boss of SOTE.
Anybody else disappointed with the final fight as well as the ending? I hated that they brought back Radhan (who is the most non-character out of all the demigods) just to pander to powerscaling fanboys who were like hurr durr I wanna fight Radahn at his peak. Miq and Radahn had absolutely no connection in the base game. By all intents and purposes it should have been Godwyn. Not to mention the entire fight is terribly unbalanced so much that only a certain number of builds are viable, which is a great shame. My colossal greatsword daughter was by my side for the entire 250 hours I spent playing the game and at the last moment, I had to switch her out for something else to be able to defeat him. I hate him just for that. It's also super anticlimactic once you kill them you have a memory that just… Says what Miquella already said two times at that point. That he wanted Radahn to be his consort. Megayawn. I honestly felt like a lot of stuff from the base game was retconned in the DLC, and that it felt rushed and unfinished in parts. The DLC ends on such a disappointing note it sours the whole experience a bit to be honest.
Nonnies who've finished it, what were your thoughts? How many hours did it take you to beat the final boss?
On an unrelated note, Thiollier best cutest boy.
No. 406002
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>>406000i'll let you know when i do it… tbh, i'm putting off finishing SOTE. i'm pretty sure i have all the sites of grace unlocked and am done with the DLC aside from the final boss but i keep hearing it's so bad and annoying. if i'm being honest i'll probably just let summons kill it for me, i don't have the patience for a lot of the ER bosses since they feel like complete bullshit. like, i'm replaying bloodborne right now, and i felt like BSB was very annoying, but even that boss is less obnoxious than… most of the ER bosses? feels like so many ER bosses are the "hyper-aggressive massive damage output and also heals and has to have a second or third phase" thing it's almost a meme. for instance, i think malenia is the worst boss in the entire series solely for how fucking retardedly overtuned she is. (don't talk to me about bed of chaos since it's an obvious rushed oversight of a boss and really not that hard.) malenia is just… stupid. compare her to, like, isshin sword saint, who is extremely difficult and long but VERY fair and feels great to fight. he's a masterpeice of a boss of a video game, testing everything you've learned. malenia is just "hurr durr heal myself constantly and then bomb the whole arena in my second phase" and it's cheap. malenia is a stupid fight and people who say otherwise just think malenia is hot. apologies for the tldr.
related to your post i'm sure i'll hate the final boss too.
No. 406004
>>406002I still haven't beaten Malenia lmao. I'm happy just leaving her chilling in the Haligtree, believing her brother is still there. But really I didn't want to deal with her before the DLC came out and now I'm not sure I want to deal with her actually. But from what I hear she's fairer than the final boss of SOTE. I need some time off from Elden Ring after that one, it was an awful experience and I didn't even feel good beating it.
Isshin is my favourite final boss of all time and Sekiro is my favourite From game. I think that game is actually perfect and I'm still upset they scrapped the DLC to make Incest Ringu. I did like ER but to be honest, I'm tired of it now, especially knowing how
unfinished the lore is now. Oh the irony, GRRM. I hope From goes back to making things like Sekiro and BB and ditches the DS 789 weapons formula, their best games are the ones where the weapons are limited and you're forced to master the playstyle completely.
No. 406015
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>>406004yeah, bloodborne and sekiro imo have less replay value due to the limited builds, but also, they feel more tight and realized as games. dark souls 1 is forever my favorite since it was the starting point of my love for fromsoft games, but i recognize it's not the best in the series either.
i really enjoyed elden ring as a game. hated the lore, which is why i chose
the ending where you destroy the entire world as my first. i've 100%ed the game and absolutely love the world itself and the lore of the people living in it, but i couldn't give less of a shit about the empyreans.
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>>406067agreed. it's retarded how sony refuses to allow a pc release even now. they'd make a fortune. i'd personally love to be able to play online again, since i'm replaying now and it feels lonely without messages and ghosts and all that, but like fuck i'm going to pay for ps+. pretty sure every bloodborne fan would buy a second copy on pc even if absolutely nothing was changed or remastered and it was the same original price too.
No. 406117
>>406000I haven't beaten him but I think it's dumb af.
Miquellas plan relies on Malenia killing Radhan and then some other random person killing Mogh. I don't think it should have been Godwyn since he had a plot in the main game. Ideally I would've liked it to be something around the Gloam-Eyed Queen. Maybe Miq resurrects her since she was the only one who seemed to challenge MarikaBoss fight sucks too. I'm going to have to respec and cheese it.
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This guy went so hard on his voice lines I’m still a little in shock and how fun and cinematic he made the fight with Bayle feel. Really some of the most fun voice acting in all of FS imo
No. 406177
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>>406117Exactly,
even if we admit that part of the deal Miq made with Radahn involved letting Malenia kill him, then who would have been the one to kill Mogh? Assuming Miq also charmed Mogh into kidnapping him and ruining the Haligtree he worked so hard for. What was the point of the whole Mogh business anyway? Did he need to share Mogh's bloody bedchamber in order to access the Shadowlands somehow? There is nothing on this point. Was Malenia supposed to kill Mogh, upon coming back to the Haligtree and not seeing Miq in his cocoon? No, because not only did she almost die fighting Radahn, she had to be brought back by her knight barely alive and then just sat there like an idiot not even realising Miquella was gone. Why did Radahn fight her nearly to the death if he had already agreed to be killed in order to be resurrected as his consort? Why did Malenia bloom in order to kill him, when she rejected the rot? Was Mogh just a replacement dead body that was on hand? And who got Mogh's body into the Shadowlands after all?
It just doesn't make any sense and stinks of retcon everywhere. I disagree when it comes to Godwyn, Miquella was already trying to resurrect him and the only reason that he couldn't was because Radahn was halting the stars, so the eclipse couldn't happen. Killing Radahn makes it 100% possible for Miquella to be able to resurrect Godwyn's soul, and would have made more sense than fanservice, silent and emotionless Radahn. After all, "the Lord's soul needs a vessel", meaning that it doesn't matter that Godwyn's body is still alive. His soul is dead, and could have been placed in a new vessel perfectly.
I also don't understand why we don't get the choice to become Miquella's Lord after killing Radahn, since we get the exact same option with Ranni. It makes no sense to kill them both at once, and it's actually strange since the remembrance is called something like "remembrance of a God and Lord" but the description only says "remembrance of Radahn". This is the first time I'm actually unhappy with Fromsoft's narrative choices. No. 406191
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>>406000I agree with you.
It made no sense that Radahn was the final boss. He looked cool, yes, but the whole fight was like Twin Princes all over again but way shittier. I HATED the meteorite surprise attack he does in the final phase, like even that had to be recycled from the base game. It was so cheap. I rebirthed my character so I could use Rivers of Blood and the sick new spell Impenetrable Thorns and I also summoned a tank player to help me with the boss. We smashed Radahn and the long-haired twink into oblivion. I will never do that fight again.Otherwise it was a nice dlc and I had fun with it. Not a 10/10 though.
No. 406197
>>406000i'm ngl i think the anger over the lore is silly…what is the difference between a ten second clip 3 years ago and one today. also
>miquella wants to be strong>picks the strongest god to accomplish that >had a good relationship with his dad, who had red hair (as is evident by multiple in game items) >rads has red hair >their whole setup mirrors hoarah loux, first elden lord: can be assumed this is to evoke the same sense of awe hoarah loux did >>inb4 why not use malenia maybe he didn't want to puppet his sister around like he's puppeting rad because he loves her. i dunno
>>406177>why did he get nabbed by mohg it could be that he's a manipulative shithead (also hinted by a few items in the main game, look at bewitching branch) and had to go the long way around to avoid detection by outside parties, or maybe mohg was supposed to get recruited and wanted to steal miquella's powers for himself, etc. it's not really too crazy or too out there
No. 406360
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>>406328I don't want to have a remake (especially if it's made by Bluepoint). A remaster would be better imo.
No. 406367
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>>406328soul vs soulless. everything in the original DES has this sort of dreamy quality, like everything is a bit foggy and unnatural, and the color palettes all look like they came from the same source. the remake was obviously made with love, but it's been turned into high-detail western pop-fantasy slop. the remake could be from any game. the original DES graphics have an extremely distinct quality, like a singular artist's vision come to life.
and let's not even talk about the dark souls remaster that just made everything look like rubber.
if bloodborne got a remaster i'd only want it to fix the horrible loading times. replaying it now, it's still a spectacle, utterly gorgeous.
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shadow of the colossus also had this problem and the changes are remarkably similar to DES. these phantasmagoric green-yellow worlds with a mix of intense light and intense shadow, ground down into what looks popular in 202X.
No. 406420
>>406328Remaking it would be completely pointless, it's a PS4 game, not an NES game, it will hold up for a very long time. I don't think a remaster would be useful too, just a PC/PS5 port with fixing the loading time and the framerate would be enough.
>>406367Let's not even talk about the music, the original score was somber chamber music that fit the suffocating and oppressive atmosphere of the world, in the remake it's just generic bombastic orchestral music.
>>406369Damn, is it the Sony execs who ask them to do these boring changes just to follow trends or does Bluepoint just not get it?
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should i pay $9.99 to gain access to the cum dungeon
No. 408196
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No. 408197
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No. 408200
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I want to get a Ludwig tattoo since he is one of my favorite characters of all time but since he is ugly (no offense to him) I'm afraid it would look like some kind of tumor, any ideas on how I could make something subtle? I would prefer black and grey tattoo but with the moonlight greatsword some turquoise highlights would be inevitable imo.
No. 408215
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>>408200I don't think you should show much of him because, ya know mutant horse man, but something like pic related but moonveil in front of him and like half his face behind it. Black bits are tatted, everything else is skin. If you want to add pain you can pop in turquoise highlights but color fades and it might look bad after a few months.
You could go for the emblem of the Healing Church which is more subtitle but then you may look like a Christfag
No. 408305
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>>408200ludwig is one of the scariest and ugliest video game characters ever made, don't get a tat of him specifically.
my recommendation is to get the moonlight sword on its own. sword tats are awesome.
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No. 408504
>>406015Frenzied Stacy?
>>406000>>406002Malenia and Prom Queen Radahn are terrible bosses, what a waste of her story and design. She was the poster girl, star of the original story trailer and had a questline's worth of screen time as proto-Millicent before getting cut down into an optional boss. Radahn is not clever or fun to beat, involving him with Miquella made their stories too messy and answered nothing and the heartstealing gimmick was just boring. I agree it feels rushed.
I think collaborating with GRRM was the mistake that led to this. His strength as an author was meant to fulfil their goals of making a stronger story but since he was only there to write them the background I believe they floundered when left with his Western style, character-driven fantasies on the paper. Try to reconcile that with FS's breadcrumb storytelling and you get this visually gorgeous hydra that goes in many directions but doesn't properly give closure to anything. Maybe if they only worked with their homegrown ideas such as the dream brew stuff it wouldn't have felt so disjointed while the Marika royal family plot tumour swallows everything (and they still couldn't tell us more about Melina or Godwyn while Mohg becomes a posthumous plot device).
I still believe in Miyazaki, from what I read I don't think Elden Ring is his baby, his Bloodborne 2 if you will. He's yet to make that game and when he does he'll blow us all away once again.
No. 408514
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>>408504>I believe they floundered when left with his Western style, character-driven fantasies on the paper.i agree that elden ring has a bad story but miyazaki based almost all of his work on western fantasy novels he tried to read (but struggled since he didn't read english). he's very, very familiar with the genre. i feel like GRRM barely contributed and only gave them a skeleton, since we all know GRRM barely puts effort into writing anymore (nor does he have to, he could spend the rest of his life living off GOT residuals). i don't know what went wrong, though. usually i find myself liking the "main characters" of the games, the ones who influence the world and story the most. i just fucking hated the empyreans and all their family drama. it's all so boring. doesn't help that i hate them as characters except for malenia, ranni and rykard. radagaon is also okay i guess. messmer feels like a complete waste of an incredibly cool design. how the fuck is he not even the main character of the DLC??
i guess i'm just not a fan of these godly beings who come off as assholes who literally never did anything worth admiring. they warred with each other. fucking gwyn fought a war against dragons. the moon presence is an elder god who wants to kill other elder gods. isshin wants to defend his clan and praises your strength even after being defeated.
the empyreans are a bunch of unlikeable power-obsessed despot cunts who ruined the world due to petty family drama. also incest. why is there so much incest? i don't care.
No. 408695
>>408514He might be familiar with it but that doesn't mean he's good at recreating the build up and climax or the tropes of a Western novel, especially when he's trying to make video games instead and as you said he doesn't really know English. GRRM not pitching in properly was a missed opportunity and the stuff he did contribute gave us a poo man and the backdrop for shittier Twin Princes. The Empyrean thing is a good example of the problem, they weren't being mysterious about it yet people still don't actually know what an Empyrean is and assume it's a race or something inherited when it's a title bestowed by the Two Fingers to show you're eligible to take a consort, get your own Fingers and become a god.
Yeah I'm starting to hate that picrelated.
No. 408715
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>>408695>>408696someone got mad at me for saying "who even plays fromsoft games for the story?" like, i love the lore, but the storytelling? it's always been really mysterious and that's what it's known for. that's what most players like. a lot of the anger directed at SOTE that doesn't concern gameplay seems to be people pissed off that "the story doesn't make sense". like… okay? are you playing fromsoft games for the story? that doesn't make any sense to me. people play fromsoft games for the badass aesthetics, fun gameplay, interesting npcs, and cool lore. not the storylines. does it make sense the way i'm phrasing it? i fucking love the lore of all the games but i'm not going into it like "oh boy i can't wait to see the narrative unfold" because that's always felt like a weak point in fromsoft games and it doesn't matter that it is. we aren't playing a fucking witcher game.
No. 408737
>>408715>someone got mad at me for saying "who even plays fromsoft games for the story?"Kek I sure don't, I open the games and slay enemies but the lore still bugs me. I still read the item descriptions because I like them.
>the badass aesthetics, fun gameplay, interesting npcs, and cool loreIdk, they're still top tier in all these classes but npcs and background lore are the tools to tell that story, and I think the scope of what they want to cram into the Lands Between starts falling apart when comveyed exclusively like Zanzibart.txt. Ranni's questline is better off for not being like that whereas Millicent's was a bit disappointing because she has all those ties to Malenia, only to die at the end in the way she does and you go off to kill Malenia which achieves nothing and she doesn't acknowledge her. Something like that might better fit Thiollier though I'm glad he lived. They are trying to be more conventional, the plotline for Miquella's followers with Thiollier and Ansbach is the biggest example of non-breadcrumb storytelling with the first instance of inter-NPC dialogue during gameplay. I'm not saying they have to make it super cinematic, it's not their wheelhouse but they sure are having growing pains when doing it with the Souls formula.
Look at it this way, Elden Ring mechanically really feels like Dark Souls 4 and there's only so much that can be expressed with NPCs that stand in one spot and say lines when you press A. Worst example of how bad it can be is when you have to run back and forth between Hewg and Roderika at Roundtable Hold to progress what's supposed to be their budding tutorship and then they sit there 5 feet apart in the same corridor for the rest of the game. In SOTE we get the complexity of Leda and co's questlines and NPC summons who speak directly to the bosses, though it's still largely a courier quest. That's a lot of steps forward but when there's every other character and major pillars of lore who gets shafted like Melina it's hard to not think what on earth were they doing throughout development to have to shuffle things around so badly? It sounds like that's been the case since DeS. You're not wrong for not giving a fuck and playing it for the pure atmosphere and fights, it's just strange to be asked not to care about said weak points when they're doing something about it and ER's world isn't meant to be like Dark Souls where all the interesting events and people are long gone and (You) are a major player in the field of events, the player is in the intro cinematic.
No. 409004
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i love alfred
No. 409005
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should be able to kiss him in game
No. 409022
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>>409004Good taste. He is a
problematic fave of mine.
No. 409097
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>>409022why
problematic? you feel bad for vilebloods? personally i don't care, i think people headcanon they're some poor misunderstood class of people but i say fuck 'em, they're a bunch of rich assholes living in a castle. i've seen people call alfred "racist" as if the vilebloods, who seem to just be aristocrats consuming blood a certain way, are an actual ethnicity of people lol. it's left vague on purpose because neither group is right or wrong.
No. 409313
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>>409097I don't feel bad for Vilebloods. I remembered him being super misogynist towards Annalise, but now that I checked the dialogue he wasn't that bad. He would've 100% mocked Annalise if she was a man. I believe I mixed a quote from D (Elden Ring) with what Alfred says to Annalise because these two characters are really similar.
No. 409444
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>>409313yeah i don't think alfred is misogynistic. he hates any vileblood. it'd be dumb to be misogynistic in the bloodborne universe anyway since it's probably the most "strong female character" vibes of any of the fromsoft games, as far as i remember the only instance of misogyny comes from that annoying lady you pick up from the hypogean gaol who hates arianna for being a prostitute.
No. 409664
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>>409444Absolutely. Bloodborne is a female-themed game (and it doesn't try to hide it) and that's why trannies flock to it.
Anyway I love Eileen the Crow so much, she's the best girl of soulsborne for me. I love she's an older woman and she has a cool armour set as well
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>>409664trannies flock to every game tbh try not to let it bother you too much.
as far as eileen, i love when people draw her as a black woman since her VA is black.
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just fought lady maria for the first time, man she was fun. they really fucked it up with malenia. too bad such a cool design went to such a shit bossfight.
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>>412408kek
>>412349imma be honest i just turned on a trainer and made myself invincible. i was not gonna give that faggy bossfight the time of day. fuck radahn and fuck miquella i hate these boring characters.
the rest of the dlc was pretty impressive thought aside from a lot of empty areas. still felt like i got my money's worth.
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Cloak-less Messmer really highlights how weird his proportions are.
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