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>What is Breadtube and the leftist sphere?
A new leftist movement aiming to address, fight, and destroy the growing presence of fascism in the USA. AKA, breadtube is keyboard warriors making response videos to anti-SJW’s and the leftist sphere is a place that preaches diversity while all their biggest players are White, TIMs or upper class minroties
>General summary of their beliefs
- They are not liberals. Liberals believe first and foremost on changing the system from the inside while Leftists want to destroy it.
-They have slap fights over the intricacies of their political beliefs every other wednesday. The only thing uniting them is leftism.
>Breadtube: The big players only. Other tubers exist, but these are the ones pulling the shots.
- HBomberGuy (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClt01z1wHHT7c5lKcU8pxRQ
Defended his rapist script writer because they were trans and made an entire google plug in the block anti-SJW videos from appearing in ones feed.
-Philosophy Tube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2PA-AKmVpU6NKCGtZq_rKQ
Trooned out recently, might be simping for contra
Anti-SJW college dropout turned communist troon. Hates capitalist exploitation, but blows hundreds of patreon dollars on buying fancy clothes made from exploitative labor.
-Peter Coffin (https://www.youtube.com/user/petercoffin
Faked a girlfriend once. He also didn't do anything about Laurelai Bailey, a serial rapist, who ran his discord server. Peter Coffin also went so far as in to say he didn't believe one of the victims
Wants to reclaim the skull form the anti-SJW’s. Is dry as bread.
>Leftist sphere: places where leftist congregate. Only ones big enough to stir drama are listed.
The current refugge camp for former r/ChapoTrapHous users, Virgin upper class males who have never known true tyranny and hate the west. They will support Islamic theocracies and fascist states If they nominally say something against the west
It’s just Chapolight.
The incels of the communist movement. They spend all there time browsing and posting about how capitalism has ruined everything, but refuse to fix their situation because it’s to late or they’re vote doesn't matter. Latestagecel
It’s just latestagecel light.
A place to shit on conservatives, Nazis, and leftist that go against the circle-jerk.
The real underdogs of the leftist community. The only thing leftist can agree on is the fact AnCaps are retarded.
>Actual communist reading if that interests youhttps://www.marxists.org
Past thread >>>/ot/419669>>>/ot/431610>>>/ot/431610
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he always caped extra hard for trannies and apparently was a chaser, both things tend to correlate to trooning out in my experience. He's comfortable as a man because he's an autogynephile like hontra, he self-admittedly never had gender dysphoria
I appreciate someone making the thread but the OP image is kind of autistic when they’re all “sex work is work!” types>>1174669
Yes, they’re all male except for Lindsay Ellis, but they aren’t the ones sucking up to shoeonhead. Her main wk vaush has a thread of his own, but I don’t think it ever took off
Honestly I unsubbed from her a long time ago, when she spent a large section of a video caping for Islam(cause of course)
I don't think anyone would ever dare to criticize the faith of the pedoohile propeth
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re: pt and hontra, some of this is spergy because i think this is from /tttt/
I was one of those people kek
I thought he was on the way to troon out the moment he put up a video of himself with plucked eyebrows
And now later on I heard he also did streams while dressed as a woman so it's no surprise. He did strike me as someone secure in his male identity too though
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Most breadtube content is just pretentious over analysis of media that they subscribe deeper meaning to
Like this faggot, trying to make parallels between Legend of Korra and Communism when the main writers never once said that was their intention
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I didn’t predict that he would fully troon out, but I was certain he was going to come out as some sort of non-binary following his Queer video. In it, he dresses up as a woman, and he also skirts around the topic of his queerness for the entire video before very lamely coming out as bisexual at the end. I felt like the subject matter of the video, which focused a ton on trans and gender nonconformity, didn’t line up with the conclusion at all. ofc I’d expect some pandering to the troons, but it really went overboard with it.
His video on ment@l he@lth and suic!de (he seriously writes the title like that) is dogshit and obvious attention whoring. The entire thing is a pity-fest that shows no understanding of what depression is like. (For contrast see thoughtslime’s videos on depression; he’s a wokescold, but he is very obviously genuinely depressed, since he can actually describe the thought processes of a depressed person. See https://youtu.be/GDlyFebMZ14
if you're curious.) This is when I first noticed PT’s obsessive need to be included in oppressed groups whilst being the furthest thing from it.
The video right before PT's trans coming out video was a great example of it. In it, he uses a bunch of language implying that he is one of the poors and that the struggle of the poors is his struggle. https://youtu.be/c_X-812q_Jc
That video + some of his tweets prompted a three-hour debate between Vaush and Destiny. It goes off the rails a lot, but for the most focused shitting on Olly, go to around 2 hours and 52 minutes (should be timestamped). If you don't care to watch all this shit-flinging, just know that Vaush simps incredibly hard for Olly because he's now a beautiful twans woman, despite his obviously intentionally deceptive wording and behavior.
picrel: I calculated PT's minimum monthly earnings as of March 2021. At a minimum, he makes roughly $336,000 per year.
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anyways, fuck this guy. his most recent video was so painful to sit through, even though I went in knowing it would be a hate-watch.
He just thinks he's so clever and he's so smug, I think this is 50% contra skinwalking/fetish and 50% trying to get ahead in his acting career/money.
He knows there's a lot of sympathy money in being trans. Justin Bieber could troon out today and he could be like, "i'm now apart of one of the most vulnerable women in the world. I'm a lesbian woman" and no doubt he'd have 80% of troons/tras falling at his feet.
This dude immediately started doing interviews and comparing himself to black women. He knows what he's doing. He failed at being a "Cis" male and he let the trans shit groom him.
I posted this on a thread but it really fits better here
what leftist online spaces used to be like, before the rise of the degenerate dirtbag left and the troons, libfems and soyboys of breadtube online leftist spaces were just something else
they were much smaller but they had a more diverse array of people (men and women, gay and straight, black, white, Indian and Hispanic) and we would discuss social issues, what we could do with our limited resources, activism and in those spaces real hateful speech like racism, sexism and any specifics of violence against women would get you banned
Now you compare that with twitter leftism or spaces like r/ChapoTrapHouse and breadtube comment sections and you see nothing more then a much of degenerates spewing bullshit, talking about cat girl skittles and how much they hate their Chud parents or analyzing random films
I'm saying that ChapoTrapHouse. vaush and breadtube ruined leftist spaces and discussion online and IRL
Like most "transwomen" he's clearly just a fag who wants to dress up as such.
Why do they have to hide behind the gender dysphoria bullshit excuse, just cross-dress and be done with it. A cishet white man cross-dressing is more progressive than yet another troon contrapoints 2 electric boogaloo.
CTH and dirtbag left are more palatable than vaush. holy fuck i can't even listen to him for 5 minutes hes so disgusting and annoying.
but i agree in terms of the fans of chapo etc, all are horrible. the comment sections suck
What kills me is that they'll go send rape threats to any woman who doesn't perfectly toe the TRA line but no one shits themselves over Vaush saying sexual dimorphism exists and trans women have the physical advantages of being male broken clock and all that I guess
cause I guess it's still woke if it comes from a fellow moid. I really think that the main thing holding them together is just misogyny and perceived intellectual superiority.
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Okay I said before he trooned out if 50% Coom and 50% attention but I really feel he trooned out so that he could advance his career more so anything.
I think he knows as a troon he can get more attention and feels entitled to it because, "I'm a part of the most vulnerable group of people now"
did anyone watch this? the fake high voice and the feminine gestures (fixing his hair every other minute and the high pitched nervous laugh) made my skin crawl
here's the link since it's not letting me embed it https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=g9nlORpR1I8
I didn't want to sperg out about his mannerisms in the MTF thread around the time he trooned out, but god, his voice is somehow even more
grating than Contras deflating-balloon-tenor. Also, the arm flailing, exaggerated facial expressions and head tilts, etc., etc. It really does seem like he's just wearing a skin suit of mannerisms, things and clothes he thinks
women do/wear all the time. It really creeps me out, and I'm not even being skinwalked.
Lol at him saying "I dont even have to do 'the voice' anymore!" in his first video - kek, we can tell you're putting in a massive effort just to sound like a gay male.
Nta, but if really is just for clout and skinwalk/fetish reasons, it will eventually wither away, just like his obsession with contra will, too, and then he'll basically have no reason to keep up the facade, which won't rake in as much wokepoints as it did from the start, anyways. So that's a surefire way to become miserable already. I think he genuinely enjoys being a male, even if he likes to dress up as a woman.
From here, he has two options - either detransition, which will make everything he said about transitioning false and undoubtedly leave a huge dent in his youtube stint, or join the 41%, since he's been open about being suicidal and having bad mental health even before taking hormones. Plus contra could open up about being sexually assaulted by PT (if it really did happen), and i know he has no qualms about calling a trans person a shitstain regrdless - that could open up a can of worms.
I can't see the result of this ending any other way other than, well, badly - for him, of course.
Well, I said it was plausible
PT would be called out IF it even happened. There's no really solid evidence, and Contra has said he won't #metoo him because he doesn't believe in the twitter mob's cancelling power, but he also said he'd be leaving twitter forever, and look at where we are now. Also, just imagine the milk, kek
I mean, a "fairly prominent figure in leftist politics" could be their egotistical way of calling themselves - i don't see Nik hanging out with any major political leaders in the US, lol. His only bf in 'Shame' sounded quite a lot like Ollie, then later, him and his bf broke up when contra said he was a transbian. PTs transition could also be attempt to make contra attracted to him again, not just escaping critisism for sexual assault. But again, this is all just kinda baseless speculation.
yeah, i initiallly was confused by calling the person "a prominent figure in leftist politics" since "the left" in America, as a formal, coherent political force, is basically nonexistent. hontra and breadtube types don't really consider your average American liberal or biden voter a "leftist" so that just leaves a lot of terminally online people who listen to chapo trap house.>His only bf in 'Shame' sounded quite a lot like Ollie
i also thought that this was the case in the shame video, since it really did seem like they had been dating for a while back in 2018. idk how plausible it is that PT is the person hontra wants to me too if they had been dating for a while
Well he is an actor after all
It's hilarious how he switched up his behavior to a dumb air head so fast after coming out. Bit sexist innit
Ye, bit enraging, too, innit>>1184559
If you're planning a non-serious fling and nothing more, its probably fine. Absolutely do not consider anything beyond this, however, if you're a terf
(and even if you're not, there's a big likelihood of him trooning out, being a coomer, being uberwoke, etc.). I hope I don't have to spell out why.
There’s a third option: non-binary.
I predict he’ll begin “Drag King” shit and start presenting flamboyantly masc as a shtick, after which he’ll come out as formally genderfluid or something and just present androgynously from that point on.
I unfortunately don’t think we’re going to get a big “oh shit” moment of him revealing the whole thing was a charade or anything. Gender ideologies are so nebulous that literally anything besides detransing is brave and valid
better than a mgtow or qtard. If he can intelligently disagree with a breadtuber he likes on something, I’d give him a chance.
Oh, but if he’s over 25 and watching breadtube, drop him.
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someone asked contrapoints about philosophy tube's transitioning and his response seems pretty telling. i think it's safe to say that they're not on speaking terms
Let's set the timer and see how long it takes for him to troon out.
You can probably do better, anon.
Goddamn, for someone who screams about "twans wights" from the rooftops, thats a cold fucking response to someone transitioning. More so because he doesnt even want to talk about it.
PT's using the transition as a preventative measure for sure
philosophy tube definitely assaulted contra
that neck clench and choke
Kek not even tossing a she/her for stunning brave PT? Guess not all skinwalkers are valid
Nick seems heavily sedated too, how's that opiod recovery going?
I used to think transing out ruined his life, but real talk, I think it just made shit that was going to happen anyway happen sooner.
He just seems like someone who was going to go down a bad path regardless.
Having money, attention and fucking with his body only made it worse.
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i feel like it's just an outlet for his narcissism and vanity… having a ton of surgery and constantly picking at your appearance must really fuck with your head
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Has anyone come across this channel? It's completely bizarre. This guy is grey-haired and pushing 50 and has spent the past few years trying to pivot from Marvel soy content to making Breadtube-styled videos responding to Breadtuber drama. Really bizarre.
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it's a reference to the thumbnail of the contrapoints video he's referencing
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He comes off as raging narcissist with delusions of grandeur. He doesn’t even have 1 million YouTube followers and yet he thinks of himself (and refers to himself out loud over and over again) as being extremely famous. It’s very secondhand embarrassment-inducing.
Also, this is completely off topic, but I hate-watched a few minutes of his most recent stream and nearly threw up when he started performatively eating grapes (or something) in an over the top forced “feminine” way. I can’t even describe it, it was just so gross and troon fetishy
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um… there literally is
16 year olds working as cashiers are taught the correct order
its not an old lady thing
your larp is transparently bad
Does he mean shit like heavy on bottom light on top???
That's common sense even my retard dad knows that
oh i can totally see them hooking up. Man i was not aware of their falling out, ESPECIALLY bc PT is completely in denial about it (last he referred to Contra, he called her "a dear friend".) damn i want to know more lol>>1191740
unsurprising that an actor is a narcissistic egomaniac lol. In his defense, the UK is a much smaller country than the US, and having 1mil subs is a pretty big deal, especially in the smaller circle that is Left discourse, and especially especially bc he came out as trans in a moment where that is the big debate over there.
I noticed I goofed in my last post, I meant "last year" not last month. I just remember reading about them meeting up on the Kiwi Forums and how many speculated they most definitely hooked up lol But I can't say I'm surprised that Contra wants nothing to do with him now, he's just as narcissistic as Ollie and two narcissistic personalities cannot coexist together, at least not for a long period anyway and also because Contra can no longer claim the token troon of Breadtube since now Ollie is doing it too lol.
And ah I see. Yeah I'm American so it probably is different in the UK when it comes to YouTube fan.
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Lindsay Ellis tweeted some dumb shit that her hyper-sensitive following would hate to hear from a white woman and then doubled down, and then deleted her twitter.
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That's a tweet from last year. This one about Raya is what set her followers off and got her to delete. Funny thing is, I actually agree with her, but this is what she gets for courting the kind of audience she has nowadays, lbr.
is what she's being cancelled for? I thought people just found the one I posted and got mad retrospectively. The one about Raja isn't even offensive.
I think the issue they had is that Asian culture inspiration =/= Avatar.
I haven't seen the movie yet but the 'avatar reduxes' are just movies inspired by Asian culture so it's all kind of dumb.
it isn't offensive but it is funny as shit. Raya and Avatar's only common elements are taken from the mithology of the countries they take place in.>>1194359
Quinton has mentioned that she's more edgy behind the scenes than she tries to appear, I don't like the guy but I believe him on that 100%.
No pity for her, she tries way too hard to appeal to the woke crowd and unironically says shit like "yikes" out loud. Her Mel brooks video is still good, the bush era music one is so limited, the transphobia one was just the last straw.
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Sad thing is, I became a fan because
of that Mel Brooks video essay because she understood that audiences today are satire-illiterate and too quick to "cancel" based on subject matter alone. And now look at her.
Anyway to make this comment not so useless, people have been bringing up receipts left and right and it turns out that she's guilty of the gravest SJW sin of them all - coming after the poor twans
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Just posted to her patreon. tl;dr twitter was making her "so unhappy" which is why she's been so rude lately or something. She thanks everyone who's still supportive. The comments are full of people simping for her. You know what, I honestly hope she DOES fuck off twitter forever. It's for the best.
Sarah Z is also honestly irritating in how full of herself she is in her videos. She used to post a ton on the Killing/Stalking sub when the webtoon was still coming out. Though it’s a tough call on whether her whole mob followers would find that comic problematic
or “realistic portrayal of toxic
relationships where no one is happy so it’s ok”. Could go either way for her.
The way SarahZ talks is so long winded and annoying. She’s always pre-clarifying things she’s talking about, to try to preemptively argue with anyone who might comment.>>1196131
How is this a nothingburger? Hbomberguy caping for a sex pest and trying to gaslight a woman about what she is claiming to have experienced, straight up telling her he doesn’t believe her. That’s a pretty bad look.
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Gotta love it when Contra inadvertently defends actual confirmed pedophile-enabler Aimee Challenor. Only like 1 out of every 10 replies is trying to explain the reddit situation to him.
Sometimes I enjoy watching sarahs tumblr history videos but good god is she annoying with the constant shoehoring of tra shit. I can see the "cis women aren't allowed to read/watch mlm content because it fetishizes them and makes them uncomfortable" crowd to cancel her. And what's up with that claim anyway? Porn in general fetishizes anything and everything.>>1196147>>1196210
I'd love to see this too kek
jenny isn't an anti reylo? she skirts the line around it definitely, but it wouldn't surprise me if she was. she has mentioned it in videos but i think it's so that she gets reylo fans to watch her videos (she has made jokes about wanting to get te 40 year old Disney mom and reylo shipper demographic)
plus, people were getting mad at her over that one old clip of her from 2015 where she makes a joke about the janitors in Disney parks looking like finn. sarah z just comes off as a fandom tumblr containment breach. she's mostly harmless>>1196258
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Straight to begging corporations for money from their virtue-signaling funds. Oppression: profiting off being a non-passing troon after a measly 2 months of being out.
he's not even hiding it. He's about to cash in on troon shit, while pretending he's doing it for some greater good, when truth is he failed as a man trying to act/produce now he's trying it as a " woman" but a "Special" woman, a trans woman.
notice how demanding he's being? Wow. I feel like he's going to cancelled soon, he's way too cocky. In fact if he does get big, I can see Contra's depressed ass spilling something negative about him.
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Oliver sees someone talking about their autistic son’s developmental accomplishments. Olly responds, making it all about himself and his trans-ness.
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patricia oliver thorne bateman's new video is on jordan peterson… cow on cow violence
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That hideous feathery thing immediately made me think of (picrel)
It’s ok, nonnie
, you can say he/him.
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Sorry anons, I was the anon who posted about her posting on the K/S sub and totally forgot to check this thread. I noticed it about a year ago when she posted on the r/BreadTube sub, posting her own videos and answering fans’ questions. When I went to her profile I saw she used to post in the K/S sub frequently, but shes since deleted the posts and comments of her confirming she is Sarah Z. I guess so people can’t link her back to her old shit.
Pic related, her account (u/Sazley) posting about a K/S fan game 1/3
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She deleted comments admitting to being Sarah, but couldn’t hide from removeddit
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It’s actually very easy to hide from removeddit. She’s apparently just been drinking too much dumb bitch juice.
Depends on who you ask and how well Sarah can spin her liking it as just “from a critical standpoint” for the “story” and not because she likes it for the problematic
gay shit like everyone else who read it.
Like with Lindsay, she is too deep in the woke community she helped create and cater to that will cancel her over anything they see as “problematic
funny how she reads tons of m/m content but SHE isn’t the fujoshi guys! She’s just here for the story, not like the rest of you!
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Samefag but looks like the mob is already turning on Sarah anyways because she told a fan who was being harassed to “go outside” but when Lindsay got cancelled she went off about cancel culture
As much as I dislike Sarah I also agree.
Funny how breadtube ranks are dropping like flies. Is PT still delusional that he and contra are besties? I’m surprised I didn’t see more people talking about contra snubbing PT and saying “that person isn’t in my life anymore”. I thought that was gonna blow up more than it did
in addition to what all the other anons have said, killing/stalking is also massively controversial in the wokesphere because it contains rape and murder but also it's gay. so if you're not treating it like the bible of the antichrist, not only are you fetishizing mlms but you are also fetishizing abuse, and people tend to go ballistic over that. the only permitted mlm shipping content they stand for is ~pure and wholesome uwu beans~ where the hyper-femme uber-twink bottom is totally not cope for hating women and is totally not fetishistic of mlm in and of itself
that said since ks is over and its peak of controversy has come and gone, i don't think the cancellation can start there unless some fannibals tried to nail her for hypocrisy. but i do think it's some pretty solid shit people will sling at her once she starts going down
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>>1198264>>1198267>I’m surprised I didn’t see more people talking about contra snubbing PT and saying “that person isn’t in my life anymore”. I thought that was gonna blow up more than it did
Me too! I think the only explanation is that not many people saw it, because the comment occurred about 11.5 hours into a 12-hour stream. Who was even still watching at that point? The clip has been posted here and on KF, but I’m sure most wokesters don’t frequent these types of sites.
Its interesting what's happening, breadtube was sorta created (or more accurately forced created) as a way to counter the right wing influencers on the Internet and it seems to have a worked, I mean right wing YouTubers are seen as a joke by most of the internet and mostly mocked but now the breadtubers are tearing themselves apart or are being torn apart by their own community of fans that they helped create and its over shit no normal human being cares about
I honestly think the whole thing will collapse in less then 2 years
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how many glamour shots does one """woman""" need. surprisingly, people in the comments are actually pushing back on the tweet instead of the usual choir of "Stunning and Brave"
his diseased mind imagines only have one consultation for troon procedures, where the only information they give him is that surgery is going to hurt and estrogen can make him emotional.
of course he'll never admit it but he and most troons think that actual serious warnings on hormones and various surgeries are terf
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I’m really enjoying these replies.
Sage for OT used to be a part of group of "antis" and I don't think there were any sort of non-binary or Troons(In fact a lot of them were explicitly gender critical) but they were like extreme moral guardian's who belived straight characters should be shipped with the opposite gender, no age gaps, no power difference, no sort of abusive
dynamics, no bdsm e.t.c
On some level I did agree with them, cause I do feel that there ware a lot of problematic
aspects with ships(especially the m/m ones) that should be called out but they often went way extreme and were abusive
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did contrapoints move homes? also peep lindsay's book in the stack
gashunk gashunk shark manga lmao.
contra is such a grifter, how do his fans not see right through his act?
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Abigail Thorn was on the bbc. Don't think this has been posted yet. Must have hella connections to get yourself covered like this honestly
I guess >>1200529
might be true then.
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Contra made and quickly deleted these tweets about getting srs
He used to brag about how rich and noble and connected his family was before it went out of style, even admitted that they pulled strings to get him into university. I don't have caps on me but I remember someone posting them in another thread forever ago.>>1201456
I really wonder what he's gonna do when he gets botched. Lie and pretend it's everything he wanted? Throw a fit and make himself out to be the victim
? Time to start placing bets ladies
Oh my god is contra getting cancelled over wanting a surgery? I love these crowds, "my body my rules!!" Until it's something that i
wouldnt do lol
but now he's a the most famous trans woman in the UK and he's fighting for trans women because he can't get married, he can't get decent healthcare or adopt. He really thinks he's a fucking hero and he's done NOTHING but talk about himself.>>1201456
I predicted he'd want to get the surgery, it's weird how coomers get their dick chopped but they love tranny porn and trans pornstars who ALL have working decent sized dicks.
Trans without dicks are unpopular. I guess he'll find some dude to fuck his neo-pocket. Also do your own reasearch, that is a serious surgery, every troon is going to say, "oh my doctor did this or that" and make it seem like it's the best in the world.
>>1201511>he claims his family lost most of their money through gambling but somehow still went to private school
idk but this is just making him sound like more of a pathological liar
he's definitely a narcissist, i'll give you that
I don't think Nick will last long if he gets the chop. Long enough to have sex, probably. I'm not entirely sure what sort of "lesbian" activity he's looking for after the fact, though. Even if he pulls in some self-loathing handmaiden, they usually start having panic attacks or refusing sex once they realize what they're working with. He's already depressed, so he'll probably 41% after he becomes even more alone and stops being able to coom.
Also, I feel like I remember him bragging about his dick size, before he trooned out. Let's test that theory. Will he invert his schlong, or make a second butthole?
He's nowhere near the most famous trans woman in the UK. Off the top of my head -
Eddie Izzard (genderfluid but in 'girl mode' now apparently)
ehhhh I’d say that all of breadtube is incestuous enough that having individual threads for PT and contrapoints would just be a bit of a headache
The milk is more of a steady trickle than a stream, too. I’d say this thread is at a good level of activity.
, contra and PT have separate threads on kiwifarms but they might as well be the same one since they overlap pretty frequently
Learn 2 sage.
The topic you mentioned has been discussed extensively in this thread already.
Here are some posts, out of order:>>1187227>>1187213>>1187192>>1187191>>1187176>>1184421>>1184313>>1184300>>1184280>>1184023>>1183729>>1174967>>1174668
Sorry to samefag but when I said>>1202471
I wasn’t trying to shut the entire conversation up, or imply that it had been discussed enough already. I was just responding to a post asking if anyone had heard of the PT/Contra assault rumor.
is there any archived version of the 4chan thread on that? i don't really use those boards an my understanding is that everything is now lost. I guess the only thing we have is the masterpost posted here earlier? I really wish Olly would piss someone off and they'd spill the beans, breadtube is due to a honest to god scandal that's a little more substantial than "by having a .02 seconds cameo in her video, contrapoints said that XX is NOT valid
!" you know?
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No, Olly. Stay the fuck away from us.
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the 'tube just likes whatever makes his girlscythe hard
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has he always behaved this way? I really feel like he thinks being a woman means being "sassy" and not having normal "rules", but also because he's a "trans" woman, he has even less rules and can do whatever he wants without expecting any backlash.
I don't know if that makes sense.
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Anyone else get a huge woke black Incel vibe from T1J(he's as of now the main Token black guy of breadtube)
He seems way to much interested in white or Asian women and almost never mentions black women in any context
Whenever men/trannies make this exact point as a "gotcha," they're just admitting that they see no difference between sex and gender. Blatant homophobia and conversion therapy rhetoric aside, it's basically an invitation to point out that, if TWAW to that
degree, surely we should be giving them medical treatment for female bodies instead of male bodies and not bothering with HRT, GRS, implants, or FFS/FMS. Your body is already female, no?
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The swedish murderer is bragging how him and his girlfriend had a baby through state sponsored IVF
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And how he was only on probation for a year.
I swear hbomberguy used to be too. His earliest YouTube videos (now deleted) were rebuttals to Anita Sarkeesian. Then I guess he spent enough time on the anti-sarkeesian side of YouTube that he realized what a bunch of losers they all were and he switched to making fun of them.
I remember finding his videos making fun of the sarkeesian effect guys when they were new, and liking his humor. So I went and checked his older videos and was surprised that he seemed to be arguing both sides.
Now if you go to his YouTube channel and sort by oldest first, his “sarkeesian effect” response videos are the oldest ones there. I can find no evidence of his older videos but I’m 99.99% sure they were on there. I am starting to doubt my own memory though. I wish I had downloaded them at the time but I didn’t know he’d become a thing. This was 5-6 years ago.
>>1204307sorry for samefagging,
the furthest back his waybackmachine archive shows is mid-2016 so I can't find any of his older videos. There's a chance I am mistaken but I really believe I remember seeing this.
Any chance anyone else remembers this, or was he not really on anyone's radar yet back then?
Hbomberguy used to be an admin in the Metokur forum, which was dedicated to trolling and triggering
people online with offensive remarks, as were many groups like encyclopedia dramatica forum, something awful and butthurt brigade. The proof of this was in a mister metokur video where he showed a screenshot that had hbomberguy on the admin list, and a few testimonies. I'm sure he genuinely changed since then, but it's interesting that he's feeded by trolling remorse.
At about 7:05, she brings up "an old friend who is a transwoman". I bet it's contra. She wants to be acknowledged by her soooo bad.
Also everytime she talks about trans things it sounds exactly like videos that contra has already made it's so creepy
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Thanks for the info. Got any screenshots or videos? I think it was right around 2014/2015 that he switched to his current politics, most likely be realizing he was surrounded by idiots in the anti-sarkeesian circles he probably used to actually believe in. I wonder how involved with gamergate he was before that, if at all. I’ve been having trouble finding any other dirt on him, or really anything on him at all from before 2015/2016. It would be funny if some things came to light and he was forced to address it. Then again, he’s male, so I doubt he’d get crucified as badly for maybe being an ex-gamer hater as Lindsay Ellis did for having a mildly spicy opinion about cartoons.
didn't he excuse friend who a (woman)trans man accused of sexual assault or something like that? I can't remember the details but I think thats what happened.
And yeah he's a man, women get cancelled for anything but men will get three strikes unless they really do something fucked up.
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Something like that. I’ll try to sum it up briefly but this is bound to be a long comment:
Apparently someone who was working for him (hbomberguy) said that she had a problem with someone Harry was friends with, but didn’t want to talk about it because she needed to keep her job to avoid becoming homeless. She was worried that telling Harry his friend was a maybe-rapist would lose her that job. (Spoiler: it did)
But Harry pushes her to talk about it anyway because it’s been really bothering him. (Instance #1 of him prioritizing his own feelings when approached by a woman saying she’d been victimized in some way.)
So she tells him this story about how his best friend invited her on a date and then said a bunch of creepy stuff implying he was going to rape her on the date. Or that he wanted to do rapeplay, or purposely get each other drunk to have sex “without being able to say no” or some gross weird thing. She wasn’t into that idea so he called off the date. Then she felt weird about it and didn’t tell anyone for a long time.
Harry’s response: he doesn’t try to ask her any followup questions or anything that could maybe verify what she’s saying. Instead he basically says she waited too long to bring it up, and he doesn’t believe her now, and he even tries telling her that her memory can’t possibly be correct.
Then he again makes it all about himself by being like “I have to go, I feel awful about this.” He says a bunch more self deprecating things about how he’s awful and such a terrible friend for not believing her, but he confirms he’s going to stay friends with the alleged creep and does not in fact believe the accuser at all.
They then agree to part ways and never speak again.
I am just recounting a weak secondhand version of what I remember from this, so I could be wrong. And I’m not even saying I agree with the accuser that “some guy said he wanted to do weird kink shit I wasn’t okay with and then called off our date when I didn’t consent” necessarily counts as a violation of consent. According to her, he didn’t really do anything to her.
My issue is with Harry’s public persona of “one of the good guys” and “male feminist” compared to his reaction to being told a male friend of his violated a woman’s consent. Instead of asking more questions about it or discussing why she felt that way, trying to clarify things, etc. he just jumps straight to “no, you must be misremembering things. This whole situation makes me feel like shit, goodbye” with an unspoken “and by the way you’re fired.”
If you think the person approaching him is full of shit or their story doesn’t make sense, that’s fair, but his response is still a bit shitty and insensitive. Does fit with his “hashtag believe women” public image. There are better ways to discuss sensitive topics than patronizing instant messages implying the accuser is delusional.
I agree with you in the sense that that conversation truly reveals that even the best most feminist of men will always put his male friends over the female ones.
But how was the dude violating consent? They were on a date, he said creepy things, she said no and they broke it off? Isnt that textbook "respecting consent"? Man this dating thing is hard lol
Did i miss something or was the storyline with the smoking and lover/brother/what even? poorly executed and didn’t really make sense? I think they made a dew interesting points on JP but the storyline-elements left me really confused.
Are they trying to make a joke that even tho they are not “technically” calling JP a bigot they indirectly are?
They weren’t even on a date. She’s accusing the dude of being creepy before the date. Like she agreed to go on a date with him and then he started saying gross sexual things about what they were going to do on the date, including “get you so drunk you can’t say no to me.” When she expressed discomfort with this, the perv called the date off.
So, yes, he didn’t technically do anything to her. That being said, he’s clearly a creep.
My point isn’t so much that Harry should have canceled the guy. It’s more that his response was so lame. “You’re remembering wrong and also this is making me feel soooooo bad!” is a lame response. Maybe if he had some balls he could have actually engaged with her on the topic.
If someone came to me with a story like that, I wouldn’t just be like “you’re wrong and making me sad.” I would thank them for bringing attention to the fact that my friend apparently had a darker side. I’d assure them that I’d be keeping a closer eye out for anything weird with that friend. I might point out that the friend did in fact cancel the date when she expressed discomfort with what he said he wanted to do on the date, but I’d also be reassuring and wholeheartedly agree that what he said was inappropriate.
Harry could have definitely handled it better, especially for a person who thinks of himself as being soooo feminist. But male feminists can botch things very badly (like firing a female employee for coming forward about harassment) while women like Lindsay Ellis get canceled for the tiniest and most mundane things.
here's the actual FULL GALLERY https://imgur.com/a/LEIid
of the convo hbomberguy had with the accuser
i honestly have no idea why you would just post one part of it and then write a long summary. it's not even that hard to find.
that being said, your recollection is still pretty accurate. he made it all about himself and projected his own memory of the conversations he witnessed between these two people, and therefore accused her of lying.https://archive.is/Zvo7d#selection-151.227-155.334
- hbomber's apology which starts off okay but fails to address anything, doesn't do anything about his creep mod, etc.https://archive.fo/sGEQx
- the accuser's response. she also includes screenshots of his mods defending him, one saying that there's more to the story and another saying that the callout post has a clear agenda to drag him. can't imagine why anyone would be upset with how someone who claims to be a male feminist being a creep apologist.
im glad this is brought up because this is one of the things that breadtube loves to forget about. i have a few male friends who love him but don't understand how bad his behavior was here no matter how i try to explain it to them.
Thanks for adding all those screenshots. I just had the one screenshot and was recounting the rest from memory.
He comes off as such a pathetic scrote. He could have easily handled this better but instead he made it all about his feelings. What a pissbaby.
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Ok so PT is playing up their shitty Brit accent. I thought I was going insane on that theory.>>1206157
The bigger issue is that JP knows jack shit about communism. It's clear he has never even read the Communist Manifesto outside of some cliffnote version. Should have had Thomas Sowell or someone else on the right that has actually read the damn thing (and more shit by Marx and other leftists), but of course boring black conservative man doesn't draw the crowds like piggish Slav man with weird ticks and druggie Kermit the frog meme professor.
I saw someone claiming that ContraPoints had rich parents and quit academia because of a sex scandal involving students or something. Didn't found anything on the rich parents, but I went to find stuff on the sex scandal thing since it's really strange that someone would drop a PhD to work as a Uber driver. There is some circumstantial evidence of him being involved with the Ludlow scandal, but no smoking gun.
From the start the story on why he quit is weird as he claims that he was bored by old gay philosophers, or moved to Baltimore because of a relationship, or wouldn't had job opportunities as a PhD, or because he wanted to work as a fiction writer. Also a detail that often goes unmentioned is that he also worked as a professor for Northwestern University, just before the sexual assault controversy hit.
In the Jesse Signal interview he claimed that he quit Northwestern in the summer of 2015 which was at the same time philosopher Peter Ludlow was being accused of assaulting and harassing students. The controversy started in 2014, intensified mid 2015 and he was fired in November of that year. From this student newspaper it seems there were student protests and there was a larger push to prosecute sexual assault at the University and the philosophy department in particular.https://issuu.com/dailynu/docs/march_5
Ludlow was facing dismissal around the start of the Summer 2015 and was planning to basically run away to Mexico, which was around the same time Contra quit his PhD program and ran away to Baltimore.https://web.archive.org/web/20210309121315/https://www.chronicle.com/article/a-professor-a-graduate-student-and-2-careers-derailed/
An interesting bit in there is that Laura Kipnis was another philosopher from Northwestern who wrote several articles defending Ludlow, I think she even wrote a book about it. If you check Kipnis followers on Twitter you can see that ContraPoints actually follows her, which is really interesting.https://twitter.com/laurakipnis
Also Peter Ludlow was heavily into linguists like Noam Chomsky and anti-war people like Bradley Manning, which are people that Contra also admires.https://www.bitchute.com/video/R0jXgGeJIKze/https://www.reddit.com/r/ContraPoints/comments/7z3kto/contras_night_out_with_chelsea_manning/
It's easy to confirm that William Parrott (Hontra) was on the graduate philosophy program for Northwestern at the same time all this was happening, and I think the controversy might have been mentioned in some deleted streams, but I haven't found anything. An interesting detail it that the list includes other students like Chelsea Egbert and Debbie Goldgaber, both of which signed a letter expressing concern about sexual assault, but Parrott is did not signed the letter.https://criticaltheory.northwestern.edu/people/current-students.html
And apparently there is some dirt on this one stream but I don't have the energy or patience to actually listen to it. https://www.bitchute.com/video/5Ei8UPJzoxOJ/
It was a call back to a previous video that uses the arson metaphor to talk about white supremacy or something.
That's why PT does an insufferably smug smile at the start while saying "Smoking is not allowed in the cinema". Weird narcissistic attempt at a leftist dog whistle I guess?
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Lindsay just got nominated for a Hugo Award for Best New Writer; let's see if this makes her reactivate her twitter to acknowledge it. Announcement of all noms if anyone's interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYzMl-9T2aQ
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More likely a reference to an anti smoking PSA that had John waters in it
nah, hard disagree.
If anything this will be the real proof if people consider him a woman or not, as women (both cis and trans) get cancelled for the MOST INANE of reasons (ex: Contra for a .30 seconds cameo, Ellis for a fucking cartoon opinion, Teigen for not hiding the fact that she's very rich), while men are basically immune to it unless they fuck very young children as even with teenagers there are people who would quicker put the blame on a horny and impressionable 16 year old than a fully capable grown adult lmao. We'll see!
Ooh, calling PT a woman and not a-logging chrissy teigan in the same post. Girl, you brave doing that here.
Point taken though. Contrapoints was cancelled a lot post-transition so there has to be something else. Phil Tube just is better at optics? Or maybe the smug self congratulatory attitude has an effect on people's reactions compared to the self deprecating sad alcoholic? I don't really understand why the former gets more people on side than the latter but here we are.
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philosophy troon considering a move to the U.S., specifically the east coast
can someone tell me whats "Equal rights" and "proper healthcare" he's not getting? Seems like he wants to move to new york/us and he's making it out to be some herioic shit because he was just saying how he was the "most famous person…" and all that "Terf
He really thinks he's a victim
, when he can afford to leave and go somewhere new. When is he going to be called out?
is he really trying to sneakily prepare everyone that the reason he's moving to nyc is because of tranny rights and not conta kek
he just ends up sounding like a privileged pos
started watching the video. seems like she's gonna explain all the factors that lead to her getting cancelled, like a medley of video essays.
definitely not watching it past the 5 minute mark.
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Will listen and report findijgs later but its not looking good.
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Her twitter’s back up. I don’t know if she lost half her followers from the cancellation or some consequence of deactivating, but it’s down from 315k+. And I’m willing to bet this is also to bask in her Hugo Award nom
so I'm around the 40 minute mark but it already feels like 2 Hours and her virtue signaling is even worse then I'd thought be
I mean can't she act like a normal person, why does everything she say have to be layered in sarcasm or wokeness, like Jesus Christ just act like a normal person, also kinda shocked she so causally called her own family white trash and claimed they were all covertly racist
What's up with her face? She looks decrepit, and like she's wearing a wig. I hate talking negatively about women's appearances, but the comparison between the two images of her in the thumbnail is so stark. She's not that
old, is she?
I think it take a lot of balls to stand up against “woke scold” Twitter, and also open up about her “rape rap” video and why it was created/published.
I’ve watched a lot of this video and tbh I think you have to be grasping at straws / knowingly fake-moralizing to be offended. And she’s going back online, which is even ballsier, because obviously she’s going to receive backlash for making a response video.
I think it’s kind of funny how breadtubers are often made fun of for being “woke” but then when it comes time to “cancel” someone, both the not-woke-enough crowd and anti-leftists ban together.
Like if anyone on this board said “I think Lindsey ellis is an offensive person” people would be like “what!? If anything she just virtue signals” stop looking to get offended loser”
And you think with this board being primarily female, you could empathize with her citing making light of her own sexual assault as cathartic and be like “oh, literally the only people trying to cancel her were people who wanted her to suffer” because none of those people actually gave a shit about women being raped
I know I’m gonna get accused of being a Stan but I just don’t understand how anyone on lolcow has an invested, heated opinion of her
Sure you don’t like her clarification and wokeness but you can’t at least empathize at all with how bold this is
Sage because drunk ramble
She just looks tired and unhealthy, nothing out of the ordinary.
The video itself was really good though.
I hope more left creators start standing up to the whole moral witch hunt the lefty internet loves to do.
Did you watch the whole video?
She acknowledges how she has taken part into cancellations before and how it was wrong.
But yeah, while writting the above then I remember her and her bffs takes on JK Rowling and suddenly I feel way less sympathetic lmao.
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So let me get this straight, a guy kissed her spontaneously(which was dumb thing to do) but she made a much dealer of it then it actually was and she asked her friends told her it wasn't that big of a deal she made it somehow about how white privilege
Christ these people need to get out of their own weird woke world
Interesting, I'm satisfied to hear that, even if I think my previous point still stands. I don't have trouble believing Lindsay could write an interesting dissection of cancel culture (I was a fan of her videos after all), but I think the rest of this year will determine whether or not she's being sincere. If I see her going back to gleefully joining someone's pile-on just because they're a non-leftist I'll know this was all for show.>>1209574
Honestly, I agree with this. The way a nonzero number of her former friends immediately starting talking shit after she deleted makes it clear she's not a super warm person, but I don't think that's grounds for depriving someone of their audience or income. This thread is also unfortunately vague enough that people will have trouble bringing it up as one of her crimes.
They do point out the community is overwhelmingly white and just virtue signal around the whole topic
Honestly I'm starting to miss the "I don't see race type" people more and more
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For all his faults, Contra wrote one (1) pretty good argument on this. A lot of it comes from the fact that white left-leaning youtubers are automatically considered "breadtube", while black left-leaning youtubers are sorted into, well, "Black Youtube." That being said, I don't think the conversation ends there. Like you said, it's still worth pointing out that the type of people who enjoy uploading hour-long video essays about politics and pop cultures do tend to be rich college grads, whether they get famous or not.
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Meanwhile, PT continues to act out his parody of a vapid floaty woman. It's so transparent
I saw that thread too and while googling the name because i had no fucking clue who they were, i found out she's kyle kalgreen ex-gf and that a few months back they apparently went on a twitter tirade about how lindsay and Todd are "cult members". Anyone have archived versions of those threads?
Im an ex twgtg trash and any type of milk from those has beens bring me joy
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Oh BrowsHeldHigh I forget about him, its weird he seemed to be the only one at channel awesome that had decent level knowledge about history and philosophy but never got any decent views despite objectively being the smartest person at channel awesome
Well he was trying smart analysys of obscure arthouse movies in a period of time (2009-2012) where the style was "a cartoon from your childhood made with corporate interests in mind is BAD actually". You could say he was before his time, and, you know, not very entertaining in his style.
Exactly like stated above, with these people i assumed were her friends i was very surprised they were seeming only just waiting for such an occasion to air their dirty laundry against her and her posse. I guess no philosophy degree or past as a popular child actor saves you from being a petty bitch
Having watched this video, this is why I hate cowtippers. If you just have a bitch about people, you don't have to be measured or even fair, you can make fun of their shitty rape rap, but as soon as it turns into a brigade, the tragic context matters and they're actually the victim
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The guy who originally wrote that tweet confirming Lindsay is a "not-nice person" and called Doug Walker kinder/warmer (whose tweets were screenshotted for her video) is being extremely petty right now. Saged because not that major
God, this woke community is nothing but adults refusing to grow up and turning everything into a teenage drama. If you actually were ~ responsible ~ you would have not wrote anything about it and realised that there's no point in throwing petty drama or interacting around it. What's it gonna give them? Five minutes of fame and egoboost?
Honestly, these passive aggressive tweets are more pathetic than random "We were friends a second ago and I will throw you under the bus" threads. All these people need to get a life instead of spending it witchhunting around.
honestly people like him are even worse, what a clout chaser. Is the only thing you have to offer your followers petty drama?
I mean, i don't complain, just, what a pathetic excuse of a person
I'm glad I made this theaad, Like I expected to be bad but these people are worse then literal teenagers, constant drama, cancellations and woke one-up man ships
Is it really that hard to act like a normal person
Blogpost, but I'm kind of surprised and confused at how much praise this apology video is getting on pretty much every platform, including this one, except for KiwiFarms.
There's zero reason why this video should exist. Lindsay wasn't cancelled. She's not a victim
of "cancel culture." There wasn't a witch hunt out to get her until she threw a pissfit and deleted her Twitter account to hide instead of handling criticism like a grown woman. A handful of small Asian artists were slightly disappointed with her for comparing a kids movie to another franchise because both pieces of media drew inspiration from Asian cultures. She easily could've stayed on the platform and written a short, sweet, and genuine apology for her Tweet in her notes app on her phone. If she really wanted to win back the good graces of the 2-5 people who were slightly upset with her, she could've donated a few dollars to a charity that helps underprivileged Asian communities and taken a few weeks of absence from social media. Everyone would've forgotten about the entire thing within the four weeks that it took her to draft, edit, and publish this video.
This is objectively a really poor way to handle an extremely minor crisis situation from a PR standpoint. Everything about this video's execution would've ended the career of any "mainstream" YouTuber and it will come back to bite her when Breadtube inevitably falls apart due to other controversies. The video is long enough to be monetized and bring in a fuckton of cash. It's complete with background music, annoying editing techniques, and distracting visuals. The disheveled alcoholic character she's playing is a pitiful attempt at garnering sympathy from her viewer base. People ragged on David Dobrik for having his Nickelodeon awards in the background of his first shitty apology video, but for some reason, Lindsay can get away with explicitly bragging about getting a book on the NYT bestseller list with zero scrutiny (not comparing their actions here, just their apology videos). Somehow she is both a "nobody" YouTuber with the 21,000th greatest amount of subscribers with racist Tennessee hicks as parents, while simultaneously being privileged enough to attend some of the most prestigious liberal arts schools in the country and have a net worth of $1.2 million. She's able to brush off a joke about autism and wearing a niqab for comedic affect during Autism Acceptance Month and Ramadan. She spends the first half hour of her video condescendingly explaining how social media works to her extremely online fanbase as if they're Amish farmers.
She hasn't been cancelled yet, but this video will inevitably give people more reasons to go after her when she spergs out again. This weird theatrical, melodramatic bullshit is only really accepted by her pseudointellectual orbiters. She really needs to hire a publicist.
Anon-chan, honestly…> There wasn't a witch hunt out to get her
there was, lol! I kept seeing people being butthurt over her on Twitter, throwing meltdowns here and there, along with mass dislikes and shit. It all looked like a typical 'DIS PERSON BAD!! IVE BEEN TELLING YOU THAT FOR YEARS' situation on Twitter. There were lots of people who were having a meltdown over how bad Elis is kek
the plot is fine. this is nothing. i didnt like linsdays video but this fucking "expose" is over literally nothing
>"…Someone else in our friend group kissing me without my consent">"they slutshamed me">"i tried to explain that both the kiss and being told what to tweet made me uncomfortable because it was a group of white people">"the nonconsensual kiss"
so, >this bitch decides to hang out with white people>then gets mad that at them for being white>doesnt realize that if she had black friends instead they would have also have told her it wasnt that big of a deal. someone kissed her without asking "can i kiss you?" who gives a fuck.>she paints this as the worst sexual assault ever. but its totally possible the guy just misread the situation. maybe it was forceful and he had always been creepy to her, yeah that wold be a problem, but she didnt say this was the case. so, it was just two friends and one not reading the room. >she doesnt mention something that would make it matter: like that the friend was creepy and always made advances on her without consent. >she said this happened one single time. the friend didnt keep harassing her. there wasnt any pattern of behavior. this guy just kissed her one time because he was stupid and shes acting like her friends slut shamed her for being raped or some shit>"How dare they not treat me like a fucking survivor over petty friend group drama?"
who gives a shit. dont hang out with whitetube if youre just going to minimize their thoughts as "white people not respecting my agency". any race would have told her this shit was stupid. what an idiot. the likes on the first tweet too, ugh the woketards probably didnt even read the full thing because i feel most people would realize this is a non issue.
Maaan I really wish she would go back to talking about musicals and stuff, she clearly knows how to make an entertaining video but they've just been all so dull and whiny lately.
I love your stuff Lindsay but christ almighty this one was a slog to get through.
I expect she'll do more of that the longer she's off twitter.
I also don't mind the political element when it's tied to talking about stuff beyond social media.
Fuck, imagine if you could talk about things like gender and race in pop culture without everyone losing their minds in vendettas and crusades.
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even the description of the video is funny as fuck condescending. she knows she wasn't cancelled this is just more dramamongering for $$$. pathetic
i mean, that's the whole point of the video: she's not responding to the Cancellation, she's reflecting on being dogpiled over a very minor "infraction" (having an opinion over a cartoon by an american corporation that COULD be interpreted as racially insensitive if you're so used to microaggressions that you perceive them everywhere) and seeing people using the excuse of said infraction to pull out decade old "receipt" to empirically prove that she is a Bad Person.
She even says that she knows she's fine, that she's going to be fine, she's not self pitying at all. But when you have people sending to your publisher or collogues a crude sketch you did in your twenties that was not meant for public consumption in the first place, are you supposed to stay silent and take it because you didnt like fucking Dragon Elsa?
i don't get you people
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i know this is old, but i want to discuss it because its related to lindsays mask off video. she sounded so fucking condescending about everything. and shes a classic SJW that get off on witch hunts. seeing her go into the "cancelling is bad and people should not be cancelled dont follow the mob!!!" shit was weak to me. anyway, i wanted to compare it with how she acted on the Quinton situation
>Quinton follows Lindsay, comments on her videos about how much he admires her
>Lindsay is fine with his simping
>Quinton sees her in some youtube event with filler breadtube girls and takes a picture with all of them
>Because of the interactions online and talking IRL one time Quinton stupidly thought they were friends now
>Quinton goes outside his town and sends messages to all breadtubers including filler ones like Sarah Z
>He sent messages to all his mutuals and none of them wanted to hang out
>The one person that did was Comment Etiquette
>This means he wasnt sending messages only to the breadtube girls, he was sending messages to men and unrelated people to the breadtube world too. Erik is not into that crowd but Quinton contacted him anyways cause they had interacted friendly online, thats it.
>Quinton even said this in a video before the accusations, he invited people to hang cause he thought they were friends. not because of something sexual involved. unless he secretly wanted to comment etiquette
>Sarah shares the screenshots of Quinton trying to hang out and getting ghosted
>Lindsay shares the screenshots of Quinton too
>"THIS IS NOT OKAY!"
>painted Quinton as a creep and me too'd him just cause he invited them to hang out. i dont think they ever liked him at all
>she had no issue causing this witch hunt, didnt even blacked out his profile pic completely in one of the pics
>both of them treated this like they had been sexually assaulted just cause a simp simped too much
>they acted like sharing this petty story was important and brave and that they were so distraught by some rando asking them to hang
>dude didnt send dick pics, didnt act weird when meeting them last time, nothing. he sent embarrassing texts. not sexual texts.
>Lindsay and Sarah cancelled some guy over stupid DMs that were an absolute non issue and didnt need to be "exposed"
>now that she got "cancelled" she hates cancelling. but some months back he was fine cancelling Quinton because of this petty shit that she exaggerated
>she had no issue at all playing victim just to paint someone as "the scary perverted bad guy"
>even hontra, who was actually assaulted by another youtuber. even hontra didnt give any details on who it was cause hontra truly believes the whole cancelling thing is a stupid witchhunt with no end goal
how convenient of her to change her mindset
I don’t know, it doesn’t look like they named him there, how can it be a cancelling? He was being annoying, and dming someone like “you don’t like me so I’m unfollowing” is
uncomfortable and unnecessary, it’s obviously trying to bait her into saying she does like him to cheer him up. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with blocking out names and telling people not to be weird like that. They didn’t even call him a pervert or a rapist or anything there, so I’m not sure where you’re getting all that from.
God I hate these passive aggressive whiny men with no social skills. I wouldn't wanna hang out or be friends with him either. Being pity-pushed into a friendship.
Idk about metoo or being a creep but he's definitely continuously sending messages while ignored and that's pretty uncomfortable.
Seconded anon. Imagine some dude who you are otherwise casual acquaintances with hitting you up to hang when you don’t really know much about them. And they live in a different area AND you previously have an experience being sexually assaulted. So you don’t really respond and then said guy responds to you with some guilt tripping bullshit that you either have to a. Ignore, fully validating their guilt trip bullshit, or b. Respond to in a positive way to do emotional labor for some dude attempting to guilt trip you and clearly needing reassurance that you don’t want to give him. You could go scorched earth and tell him to fuck off but that would be a disproportionate response that could be used against you.
Maybe quinton or whatever realized later on how awkward it was and how weird of a position he put her in. Also, she might not have known that he hit up a bunch of different people, so from her perspective, it could potentially be more personal.
Sometimes ladies need to be cold to protect themselves. I think if quinton knew or understood that position women are put in, he might have different considerations about how he approached trying to meet up.
Sage because wtf am I doing
i respect what you're saying. you are right, they didnt call him by name. i just think its shitty they wanted to act like survivors over this non issue. this could have been easily dealt with privately but they decided to post it publicly for what? there was no reason to post it to their following other than to get RT and tweets saying how strong they are and how gross this mystery guy is. so naming him or not, they wanted their audience against some guy and painted the situation as something it wasnt. but i see your sentiment.
to me it felt like a witch hunt cause their followers were obviously going to know who they were talking about in two seconds so why make it public. and one of the messages lindsay showed didnt even blur quintons profile pic correctly so everyone immediately could tell it was him but i do think it was accidental. regardless, should have stayed in the drafts in my opinion
If you humour dudes like that to be polite because they make a big deal about being sad and lonely, you will end up with a stalker who makes you hate your life and have to shut down all your social media. Erik either knows how to handle it or is just naive to how it all starts.
It's not like Lindsay just has had it so good with scrotes she doesn't know how bad they can be - she goes into that in the video. Do you really think subtweeting is such a high penalty it should only be reserved for rape? What witch hunt?
people in america can't reconcile the fact that they're AMERICAN and not whatever culture they're parents or grandparents or gggggparents were from. And i get it that i might suck, it is what it is. I'm in animation twitter and i actually saw the visual artist for the movie being extremely offended by the atla comparison because oh, you're lumping all of asia together then, and i was like BITCH!!! YOU'RE OF CHINESE DESCENT! you're lumping YOURSELF with SE!!!
sorry for sperging but JESUS american are SO. THICK sometimes.
i personally thought sarah z was more out of line, like, if you have an issue with someone talk to him personally and don't blast it to the internet at large: but lindsay was the real savage there because it corroborated that he was a sad loser (and on the internet there's no greater crime than being lame and cringe) and because they were more interested in the immediate clout of making fun of a dude who was 100% going to see it they didnt make good of a job hiding the profile pic and of course people figured out from 4 pixel total that it was his twitter avatar.
like yeah he's lame, he's an adult guy who shouldn't be clingy to what are strangers, and i honestly like how unlikable lindsay is, you go girl, you have the right to be a standoffish bitch if you want. But they also there was no need to blast him like that, they really cause him a couple of bad days bc of that.
idk maybe i'm a fag but i think they all could stand to be a little more compassionate sometimes, i can what she meant when she said that twitter was enabling her to be a bad person.
>>1212152>shes a classic SJW that get off on witch hunts
anon is right and all responders are utterly retarded cunts. There is absolutely no excuse for shaming someone publicly like that and then whining about cancel culture later. Anyone on social media that has joined in and reveled in the cancelling of people or even all the outright bans/blocking deserve to have it happen to them, and it's just so satisfying when it does.
+ If you don't like someone just ignore them, or better yet get some actual social skills and say thanks but no thanks.
yeah it's not ground for cancellation or witch hunt or whatever, it was just a shitty move by a mean person. More than anyone she should know that internet people can and will deduce who you're vaguing if you provide them with a shred of evidence to obsess over (examples: those who guessed that the channel awesome groomer and rapist was jewwario from a single pixel left from a censored chat log mentioning his behaviour, and even ellis herself re: mara wilson, people guessed it was her being the shitty friend to wilson). I think these are all examples for people using twitter as their own private chat room instead of a public forum where E V E R Y O N E can see your dirty laundry being proudly displayed.
To reiterate, no one in this deserves dogpiling or whatever; it's just an observable fact that she used to gleefully join or even initiate the shaming of cringe if given the chance, and it's a thing she even addresses in her video
Jesus stop coddling pushy scrotes. It's naive if you think he's just socially inept or poor clueless guy.
She did not name him and I don't doubt this isn't the first time he's being like that - both of those women admitted he's been pushy before and I don't doubt it's a reason why only 1 person replied to him.
i don’t want to coddle him, i truly dislike that guy and i’ve dealt with men like him who could be malicious.
what i’m saying is, if they’re gonna expose messages online, they should’ve keep that energy, been upfront and told him to fuck off. some people love to complain endlessly about the annoying tards around them but won’t say shit to their faces. a guy with a garfield and tranny dick obsession is not going to take a hint.
anon it's okay to say a woman was mean once, you know
I understand this is terf
central but something you guys really push it. Posting private DMs that can be solved in private with no issues is douche behaviour
Why does this thread suddenly have so many morons, it didn't use to. >>1212830
It's in the post I replied to, Comment Ettiquette, Erik, the guy who agreed to meet up with the stalker bloke who plays up how pathetic and "awkward" he is to lure idiots in. >>1212925
No one fucking said it facilitated rape. People aren't douchebags nor radfems just for being wiser to bullshit than you. "Solving it in private" is how these losers get to move on to someone else again and again.
It's @shadowtodd, todd in the shadows.
Goddamit they're all such children
The piano guy? I kind of like his videos actually. I forgot they dated.>>1214616
I can’t believe I just read that entire nothingburger. So there’s Kyle, Jourdain, and Lina… and they all… are mad at each other for whatever reason, and they’re all lobbing random accusations of KISSING at one another? What the fuck? What did I even just read? This all sounds so retarded.
also fwiw, Todd has defended other mtf troons like Sarah Butts who are self admitted pedophiles. he, ofc, did so on the basis of gamergate rules.
Okay but Jourdain had been hitting on the troon too? It sounds like these people just had an on and off flirtation that went south, or something.
I don’t really know who all these people are but if friends came to me like “I tried to kiss him and he said no but then he trooned out and wanted to kiss me” I’d probably also be like “uhh… okay?” Like, who the fuck cares? This is stupid interpersonal drama that didn’t involve Lindsay nor Todd directly, and yet people want to cancel either of them for… some reason that is apparently related to this whole incident? This all sounds so retarded.
IMO there is a difference between misreading an ongoing mutual flirtation and trying to kiss, versus forcing a kiss on someone and continuing to kiss them even when they’re clearly not into it and trying to get away. Is anyone even claiming that the latter happened? I’m not usually one to defend a troon but this sounds like it was just an awkward autistic misreading of the situation kiss between flirting friends.
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Fair point. Todd is definitely not bread. Merely bread-adjacent.
Let’s get back to posting terrible philosophytroon fan art and tinfoil theories about him being abusive
I used to have a bit of respect for Philosophy Tube bc it seemed like she was very responsible about having a lot of fans, talking about “parasocial relationships” and the limitations of being a “youtube celebrity”. It was definitely a lot better than other YouTubers who acted like they didn’t have any responsibility or influence despite having a huge platform, but ngl now it just seems like a case of unchecked narcissim, with PT being so very into the idea of herself as a “public figure” and the “transgender princess of TERF
island”. it’s just a massive over estimation of her importance, like she doesn’t seem to get that all the interviews and articles are just a novelty/ flavour of the month thing, not a expression of genuine interest or respect
That made me fucking cackle when I saw it.>>1216093
There is zero proof whatsoever and contra hasn’t made it sound like it was a youtuber who did it. I think they just had a normal boring breakup and that’s why they’re icy. (Well, contra is icy. Olly still seems obsessed.) I would like more milk on their falling out though.
According to KF the timeline doesn’t match up as they were still doing live streams together and seemed cordial at the time contra started talking about how she could metoo a “prominent leftist figure”. does make you wonder who else it could be since there aren’t that many other men in their circles who haven’t been outed as sexpests already.
However, if PT’s claim that they started transitioning about a year ago is true, that matches up more with the falling out, maybe contra just got scared off when it seemed that she was going to get single white femaled. tbh I don’t think they were ever in a very serious relationship anyway, fuck buddies at most.
If anything these people are good at trying not to purposely throw shit at the fan, they must know that giving one ounce of validity to the rumors would be ground for pestering/cancellation (i mean, we're gossiping over nothing, just imagine the field trip we could have with even a shred of evidence lol). Even though i dont think they were dating cus long distance never works, i think that: olly was the young fuckboy that gave contra validation as both a woman and a milf; contra lost interest because she realised she likes women + olly is an insufferable prick and called it off; he probably didnt take it very well and the "break up" didnt go super smoothly; contra is fed up, olly is very much still hang up. At this point im not saying he's transitioned for contra but can you imagine? If the Trans Queen of Terf
Island turned out to be a stalker man fixated with another trans from a whole another continent? Lol he'd be burned alive by both queers and terfs kek
it’s true most breadtubers don’t deliberately create drama, but what they are really good at is being able to stir shit without anyone realising that they’re the one holding the spoon. that way they can mobilise their fan base against someone while still being able to claim innocence in the situation. for instance the whole Lindsay Ellis/ Quinton reviews drama, where she left just enough of his icon showing to make it clear that he was the one sending her creepy dms, all the while saying “I censored the identity for a reason, don’t attack anyone on my behalf UwU”. that’s what contra is doing in >>1215892
I think, refusing to refer to PT with female pronouns or even say “Abigail” instead of “that person”. I doubt that PT is the person she’s talking about in regards to MeToo, but I don’t think she would be sending those kind of signals if something serious hadn’t gone down, or if she didn’t believe that PT’s transition was not as genuine as everyone was making out.
the video where contra first mentions being sexually assaulted is the canceling video from January 2020, and PT is included in that video of being a victim
of the mob that contra thinks was out to get her. she mentions that PT was attacked and expected to apologize for even associating with her, and at that point it seems like they're on good terms and still speaking to one another
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Ladies, thanks god we God a male to show us how to do feminism properly.
Not sure if this was supposed to be sarcasm but most of the replies are mind-numbing dumb takes from scrotes.
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>>1216701>that was me! but i’m a woman now!
OT but i would honestly be really interested to see what would happen if contra did a video that was completely on a feminist topic, what would that even look like? what would the reaction be?
"feminism" videos used to be pretty prevalent on breadtube a few years ago, but it was mostly people like shaun and hbomberguy picking the absolute lowest hanging fruits ("manosphere" nuts etc.) instead of actually engaging with feminism in any academic way. it was all reactionary and very easy to make fun of, which i think paradoxically lead to a lot of their fans concluding that feminism wasnt really such a big deal if misogyny could be easily combatted with common sense and mockery, like in those videos. plus like lucy pumpkin said, online leftist discourse is completely dominated by women-hating men and self-hating women (contra could be classed as either depending what you think of her). add to that the fact that feminsim is very vulnerable to being corporatized, so you end up with people's only view of feminism being boss-babe, "more female CEOS!" bullshit. i predict that with the rate BLM/ trans rights is becoming mainstream the same thing may well happen to those movements in a few years too.
After a bit of googling, his name is Dany Roth, I've never heard of him before.
(And yes,it was weird seeing someone use the name of a very well known comedy actress and showgirl in my home country. She never did telenovelas though haha)
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No one but the libtards on Majority Report give a fuck about Jimmy Dore, get that shit out of here.
Known Hontrapoints simp and suspected pedophile
Vaush regularly rants to his audience of incels about the evils of Dore and Greenwald and anyone who associates with them, but he wouldn't dare cancel The Hon
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So one of the new rising stars of breadtube is khadija mbowe, a Canadian black woman
As a black woman I wanted to like her but I have only been disappointed, every video about black women she has to bring up troons, and how their treated just as bad as black women and rejecting troons from feminist spaces enforces white supremacy, she also seems to blame the abuse black men do against black women also on white supremacy, she also speaks way too much authority on issues regarding black American women despite being Canadian and the daughter of middle class Gambian Doctors,
its funny how all the black women who correlate being a black female to troonery are all unattractive. its almost like theyre treated bad because theyre ugly and more attractive black women dont have the same experience
(inb4 some autistic racebaiter with uncontrolled retardation replies to me)
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I don't think she's ugly or anything, but if you've watched her videos literally all her sources are just pretentious books and papers written by neo-liberal academics and professors , who over analyze random unrelated movies, often taking scenes out of context to create their dumbass takes
Modern academia is literally this tweet but people take it seriously
and this becomes her only source for the outside world, cause I don't think she's ever been outside her for woke bubble in Canada so she's sheltered
>>1218822>Like when a piece doesn't accommodate to the poor endangered troons, it's sacrilegious and just absolutely haram and should not even exist.
That’s one of the things I envy about troons, they get all the upsides of being a man while also being treated like a defenseless victim
who can do no wrong.
When you said>some autist on kiwifarms
I knew it was going to be that particular user. I wonder why they are so obsessed with contra.
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Why are men all the same?
The only thing that makes sense to me is that it's contra himself. People only talk that much
We’re pretending this is milky? “You can still be friends with people even if you hook up” is a pretty lukewarm take from a lefty scrote. I hope the PhilosophyTroon/Hontrapoints drama finally blows up soon, because this thread is dry as fuck.
My prediction is that if Hontra starts to seem like he’s going to come forward with whatever it was Olly did that caused their falling out, Olly is going to beat him to the punch by quickly releasing something calling out Hontra first. Bonus points if they (or their fans) somehow manage to drag Lindsay Ellis into their falling out drama despite her not being involved at all.
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Just girly things!