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No. 1174665

>What is Breadtube and the leftist sphere?
A new leftist movement aiming to address, fight, and destroy the growing presence of fascism in the USA. AKA, breadtube is keyboard warriors making response videos to anti-SJW’s and the leftist sphere is a place that preaches diversity while all their biggest players are White, TIMs or upper class minroties

>General summary of their beliefs

- They are not liberals. Liberals believe first and foremost on changing the system from the inside while Leftists want to destroy it.
-They have slap fights over the intricacies of their political beliefs every other wednesday. The only thing uniting them is leftism.

>Breadtube: The big players only. Other tubers exist, but these are the ones pulling the shots.

- HBomberGuy (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClt01z1wHHT7c5lKcU8pxRQ)
Defended his rapist script writer because they were trans and made an entire google plug in the block anti-SJW videos from appearing in ones feed.

-Philosophy Tube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2PA-AKmVpU6NKCGtZq_rKQ)
Trooned out recently, might be simping for contra

-Contrapoints (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNvsIonJdJ5E4EXMa65VYpA)
Anti-SJW college dropout turned communist troon. Hates capitalist exploitation, but blows hundreds of patreon dollars on buying fancy clothes made from exploitative labor.

-Peter Coffin (https://www.youtube.com/user/petercoffin)
Faked a girlfriend once. He also didn't do anything about Laurelai Bailey, a serial rapist, who ran his discord server. Peter Coffin also went so far as in to say he didn't believe one of the victims.

-Shaun(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ6o36XL0CpYb6U5dNBiXHQ)
Wants to reclaim the skull form the anti-SJW’s. Is dry as bread.

>Leftist sphere: places where leftist congregate. Only ones big enough to stir drama are listed.

-/r/GenZedong
The current refugge camp for former r/ChapoTrapHous users, Virgin upper class males who have never known true tyranny and hate the west. They will support Islamic theocracies and fascist states If they nominally say something against the west

-/r/completeanarchy
It’s just Chapolight.

-/r/LateStageCapitalism
The incels of the communist movement. They spend all there time browsing and posting about how capitalism has ruined everything, but refuse to fix their situation because it’s to late or they’re vote doesn't matter. Latestagecel

-/r/ABoringDystopia
It’s just latestagecel light.

- /r/ShitLiberalsSay
A place to shit on conservatives, Nazis, and leftist that go against the circle-jerk.

-/r/Anarcho_Capitalism
The real underdogs of the leftist community. The only thing leftist can agree on is the fact AnCaps are retarded.

>Actual communist reading if that interests you

https://www.marxists.org

Past thread
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No. 1174666

I seen farmers here and on kiwifarms predicting PhilosophyTroon would troon out six months before he did, I wonder how other anons picked it, because he seemed very comfortable as a male.

No. 1174667

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>>1174666
he always caped extra hard for trannies and apparently was a chaser, both things tend to correlate to trooning out in my experience. He's comfortable as a man because he's an autogynephile like hontra, he self-admittedly never had gender dysphoria

No. 1174668

>>1174666
I've read some people saying that he did it after sexually assaulting contrapoints to try to keep him from saying anything about it, can't say I have any sources though

No. 1174669

>>1174666
I think I was one of those people on Kiwi before I stopped commenting and started lurking. Are 90% of the women in breadtube men? If so no wonder they want Shoe so bad, she's the best they got. Standards are low as hell.

No. 1174670

>>1174666
I only saw a video from him, and noticed how much he imitated contrapoints, to skin-walking level. It was pretty clear. Digibro surprised me a lot more

No. 1174730

I appreciate someone making the thread but the OP image is kind of autistic when they’re all “sex work is work!” types
>>1174669
Yes, they’re all male except for Lindsay Ellis, but they aren’t the ones sucking up to shoeonhead. Her main wk vaush has a thread of his own, but I don’t think it ever took off

No. 1174758

>>1174730
The image really isn't about belle dephane, its about leftists(male and female) who simp over some tranny who has basic takes and earns roughly a million dollars a year

No. 1174780

Lindsay Ellis's latest video on trannies earned my unsub

No. 1174790

>>1174780
Honestly I unsubbed from her a long time ago, when she spent a large section of a video caping for Islam(cause of course)
I don't think anyone would ever dare to criticize the faith of the pedoohile propeth

No. 1174967

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>>1174668
re: pt and hontra, some of this is spergy because i think this is from /tttt/

No. 1175008

>>1174666
I was one of those people kek
I thought he was on the way to troon out the moment he put up a video of himself with plucked eyebrows
And now later on I heard he also did streams while dressed as a woman so it's no surprise. He did strike me as someone secure in his male identity too though

No. 1178196

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Most breadtube content is just pretentious over analysis of media that they subscribe deeper meaning to

Like this faggot, trying to make parallels between Legend of Korra and Communism when the main writers never once said that was their intention

No. 1178226

>>1174790
she caped for islam because she was compensating for her past as nostalgia chick she made an "islamophobic" video about charlie's angels with her and her friends wearing burqas lmao

No. 1178306

Asking here because breadtube is the closest scene to it - are we really out of a leftthot thread now the old one autosaged?

>thread autosages on weekend

>nobody makes a new thread
Only conclusion is that posters towards the end of last thread must have hailed from twitter, and all farmers went out to actually enjoy the weekend. Sasuga leftthots.

No. 1178307

>>1174665
>Peter Coffin
>Faked a girlfriend once.

Do you mean Ashley? Cause she is real and the real story is even funnier. She was just an ugly chick who photoshopped herself so much that everyone thought she was a sexdoll. He paid for all of her plastic surgery and impregnated her with the ugliest baby ever, dubbed by the internet as "toilet n-word" and then she left him to become an e-thot communist who flirts with ShoeOnHead. Pretty sure she has a thread on here.

No. 1178347

>>1178226
nyart but lmao I remember that, it was based in her own eyerolling NChick way

No. 1178352

>>1174665
If I remember correctly Hontras yearly earnings are close to a Million $ a year now, he's probably richer then all the other breadtubers combined

No. 1178371

>>1178307
I think anon's talking about the time he stole pictures of random Asian women and girls and catfished as his own girlfriend, "Kimi Kobayashi". He got into beef with Xiaxue, and she exposed him.

No. 1178449

>>1178371
rumor has it that ashley was the one catfishing him as kimi, and once it was revealed she apologized and they kept e-dating with her catfishing as “herself but with giant tiddies and no horseface”

No. 1178481

>>1178306
Someone can still make a new one but I do find it kind of surprising nobody has yet considering it was one of the fastest moving threads

No. 1178511

>>1178481
>>1178306
i'd make a new one myself but i don't want to do the recap, hope someone else makes it though

No. 1178524

>>1178306
I wonder if the person who had been making the last several threads (very similar format) got slapped with a ban or took a break from the site

No. 1178710

>>1178449
That's Coffin's current rendition of events but I never really believed it because he'd say things like "of course my Asian gf is real, she's sitting right here next to me" during his beef w/ Xiaxue. Ashleigh was somehow mixed up in it all but I still believe Peter faked his own gf first.

No. 1178750

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>>1174666
I didn’t predict that he would fully troon out, but I was certain he was going to come out as some sort of non-binary following his Queer video. In it, he dresses up as a woman, and he also skirts around the topic of his queerness for the entire video before very lamely coming out as bisexual at the end. I felt like the subject matter of the video, which focused a ton on trans and gender nonconformity, didn’t line up with the conclusion at all. ofc I’d expect some pandering to the troons, but it really went overboard with it.

His video on ment@l he@lth and suic!de (he seriously writes the title like that) is dogshit and obvious attention whoring. The entire thing is a pity-fest that shows no understanding of what depression is like. (For contrast see thoughtslime’s videos on depression; he’s a wokescold, but he is very obviously genuinely depressed, since he can actually describe the thought processes of a depressed person. See https://youtu.be/GDlyFebMZ14 if you're curious.) This is when I first noticed PT’s obsessive need to be included in oppressed groups whilst being the furthest thing from it.

The video right before PT's trans coming out video was a great example of it. In it, he uses a bunch of language implying that he is one of the poors and that the struggle of the poors is his struggle. https://youtu.be/c_X-812q_Jc
That video + some of his tweets prompted a three-hour debate between Vaush and Destiny. It goes off the rails a lot, but for the most focused shitting on Olly, go to around 2 hours and 52 minutes (should be timestamped). If you don't care to watch all this shit-flinging, just know that Vaush simps incredibly hard for Olly because he's now a beautiful twans woman, despite his obviously intentionally deceptive wording and behavior.

picrel: I calculated PT's minimum monthly earnings as of March 2021. At a minimum, he makes roughly $336,000 per year.

repost b/c i fucked up the image

No. 1178776

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>>1178750
anyways, fuck this guy. his most recent video was so painful to sit through, even though I went in knowing it would be a hate-watch.

No. 1178782

>>1178776
trying so hard to be the poor man's hontra lol

No. 1178783

>>1178776
Those foot close-ups are cursed

No. 1178784

>>1178196
Anon, Legend of Korra is one of the most political cartoons to ever air on Nickelodeon. Whether you agree with the guy’s analysis or not, there is very clearly a deeper meaning to that show lol

No. 1178804

>>1178776
He just thinks he's so clever and he's so smug, I think this is 50% contra skinwalking/fetish and 50% trying to get ahead in his acting career/money.
He knows there's a lot of sympathy money in being trans. Justin Bieber could troon out today and he could be like, "i'm now apart of one of the most vulnerable women in the world. I'm a lesbian woman" and no doubt he'd have 80% of troons/tras falling at his feet.

This dude immediately started doing interviews and comparing himself to black women. He knows what he's doing. He failed at being a "Cis" male and he let the trans shit groom him.

No. 1179494

>>1178776
>Makes a video on capital punishment
>Right around the time people are asking where Contra's 2 part video on justice is
What a desperate worm

No. 1179512

merrick and vaush are so fucking gross and their success in leftist spaces completely turned me off from the whole spectacle. they are digusting human beings and its all so shallow

No. 1179585

>>1179494
I noticed that too. He's been hijacking Contra's topics for a long time but this is just nuts.

No. 1179646

>>1179494
>>1179585
i'm still shocked that they hardly interact online anymore. they used to always comment cutesy stuff on each other's videos and someone on kiwifarms said that it looks like the word "contrapoints" is blocked from appearing in philosophy tube's comment section

No. 1179779

>>1178776
Does anyone have a link to the unlisted video where he mentions gender dysphoria?

No. 1179966

>>1179779
Go to 16:38

No. 1180378

someone in the leftthots thread said that PT has allegations of sexual assault against him. were these just tinfoiling about him and contrapoints or did something else happen?

No. 1180650

>>1179512
>>1174665
I posted this on a thread but it really fits better here

what leftist online spaces used to be like, before the rise of the degenerate dirtbag left and the troons, libfems and soyboys of breadtube online leftist spaces were just something else

they were much smaller but they had a more diverse array of people (men and women, gay and straight, black, white, Indian and Hispanic) and we would discuss social issues, what we could do with our limited resources, activism and in those spaces real hateful speech like racism, sexism and any specifics of violence against women would get you banned

Now you compare that with twitter leftism or spaces like r/ChapoTrapHouse and breadtube comment sections and you see nothing more then a much of degenerates spewing bullshit, talking about cat girl skittles and how much they hate their Chud parents or analyzing random films

I'm saying that ChapoTrapHouse. vaush and breadtube ruined leftist spaces and discussion online and IRL

No. 1180665

>>1180650
i agree but chapotraphouse was banned. I also know they dislike vaush as well kek

No. 1180668

>>1180665
Both are degenerates who hate women

No. 1180725

>>1178776
>>1179966
Like most "transwomen" he's clearly just a fag who wants to dress up as such.

Why do they have to hide behind the gender dysphoria bullshit excuse, just cross-dress and be done with it. A cishet white man cross-dressing is more progressive than yet another troon contrapoints 2 electric boogaloo.

No. 1180919

>>1180650
CTH and dirtbag left are more palatable than vaush. holy fuck i can't even listen to him for 5 minutes hes so disgusting and annoying.

but i agree in terms of the fans of chapo etc, all are horrible. the comment sections suck

No. 1180982

>>1180919
>>1180650
>>1180668
chapo fans (especially their most online ones) are all insufferable and don't seem to grasp the irony of being anti-idpol whenever some female DNC worker mentions sexism or misogyny but are also all unabashed TRAs

No. 1181500

>>1180982
>but are also all unabashed TRAs
Thats the weirdest thing, they protected and considered the feelings of trannys over real women, they hated TERFs and would send them rape and death threats

No. 1181558

>>1180919
>>1180982
>>1181500
What kills me is that they'll go send rape threats to any woman who doesn't perfectly toe the TRA line but no one shits themselves over Vaush saying sexual dimorphism exists and trans women have the physical advantages of being male broken clock and all that I guess cause I guess it's still woke if it comes from a fellow moid. I really think that the main thing holding them together is just misogyny and perceived intellectual superiority.

No. 1181889

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Okay I said before he trooned out if 50% Coom and 50% attention but I really feel he trooned out so that he could advance his career more so anything.
I think he knows as a troon he can get more attention and feels entitled to it because, "I'm a part of the most vulnerable group of people now"

No. 1183707

did anyone watch this? the fake high voice and the feminine gestures (fixing his hair every other minute and the high pitched nervous laugh) made my skin crawl
here's the link since it's not letting me embed it https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=g9nlORpR1I8

No. 1183729

>>1183707
The Contrapoints skinwalking is horrifying. I’m not his biggest fan but if I was him I’d be terrified by PT.

No. 1183734

>>1183707
I didn't want to sperg out about his mannerisms in the MTF thread around the time he trooned out, but god, his voice is somehow even more grating than Contras deflating-balloon-tenor. Also, the arm flailing, exaggerated facial expressions and head tilts, etc., etc. It really does seem like he's just wearing a skin suit of mannerisms, things and clothes he thinks women do/wear all the time. It really creeps me out, and I'm not even being skinwalked.
Lol at him saying "I dont even have to do 'the voice' anymore!" in his first video - kek, we can tell you're putting in a massive effort just to sound like a gay male.

No. 1183759

>>1183734
oh definitely, it comes off as so fake and disingenuous… i know radfems get really peaked by drag queens and how they think that they're parodying womanhood, but at least with a drag queen you can immediately tell it's an act… this just seems like blatant skinwalking, but of some other moid who barely passes with a professional lighting setup and $100k worth of surgery

No. 1184023

>>1183729
It definitely looks like Contrapoints skinwalking. I think eventually PT is going to detransition though.

No. 1184105

>>1184023
what makes you say that he'll detrans? I don't think he really has gender dysphoria and it wouldn't surprise me if he was doing this to milk it for clout and cry about opwession points, but if he detransed it'd be a complete shitshow

No. 1184280

>>1184105
Nta, but if really is just for clout and skinwalk/fetish reasons, it will eventually wither away, just like his obsession with contra will, too, and then he'll basically have no reason to keep up the facade, which won't rake in as much wokepoints as it did from the start, anyways. So that's a surefire way to become miserable already. I think he genuinely enjoys being a male, even if he likes to dress up as a woman.
From here, he has two options - either detransition, which will make everything he said about transitioning false and undoubtedly leave a huge dent in his youtube stint, or join the 41%, since he's been open about being suicidal and having bad mental health even before taking hormones. Plus contra could open up about being sexually assaulted by PT (if it really did happen), and i know he has no qualms about calling a trans person a shitstain regrdless - that could open up a can of worms.
I can't see the result of this ending any other way other than, well, badly - for him, of course.

No. 1184300

>>1184280
>contra could open up about being sexually assaulted by PT
what makes you say that? it wouldn't surprise me if it was true, but there isn't any proof of PT assaulting hontra aside from a bunch of discord leaks and screenshots from 4 chan. i initially didn't think it was PT because in contra's video, he said that it was a "fairly prominent video in leftist politics" which made me think of an actually elected official and not a youtuber

No. 1184313

>>1184300
Well, I said it was plausible PT would be called out IF it even happened. There's no really solid evidence, and Contra has said he won't #metoo him because he doesn't believe in the twitter mob's cancelling power, but he also said he'd be leaving twitter forever, and look at where we are now. Also, just imagine the milk, kek.
I mean, a "fairly prominent figure in leftist politics" could be their egotistical way of calling themselves - i don't see Nik hanging out with any major political leaders in the US, lol. His only bf in 'Shame' sounded quite a lot like Ollie, then later, him and his bf broke up when contra said he was a transbian. PTs transition could also be attempt to make contra attracted to him again, not just escaping critisism for sexual assault. But again, this is all just kinda baseless speculation.

No. 1184421

>>1184313
yeah, i initiallly was confused by calling the person "a prominent figure in leftist politics" since "the left" in America, as a formal, coherent political force, is basically nonexistent. hontra and breadtube types don't really consider your average American liberal or biden voter a "leftist" so that just leaves a lot of terminally online people who listen to chapo trap house.
>His only bf in 'Shame' sounded quite a lot like Ollie
i also thought that this was the case in the shame video, since it really did seem like they had been dating for a while back in 2018. idk how plausible it is that PT is the person hontra wants to me too if they had been dating for a while

No. 1184540

>>1183734
Well he is an actor after all
It's hilarious how he switched up his behavior to a dumb air head so fast after coming out. Bit sexist innit

No. 1184559

Ladies, redpill me. A boy I like revealed he's a big fan of breadtube, do I need chalk up my loss now?

No. 1184572

>>1184540
Ye, bit enraging, too, innit

>>1184559
If you're planning a non-serious fling and nothing more, its probably fine. Absolutely do not consider anything beyond this, however, if you're a terf (and even if you're not, there's a big likelihood of him trooning out, being a coomer, being uberwoke, etc.). I hope I don't have to spell out why.

No. 1184598

>>1184559
Run fast, run far

No. 1184890

>>1184280
There’s a third option: non-binary.
I predict he’ll begin “Drag King” shit and start presenting flamboyantly masc as a shtick, after which he’ll come out as formally genderfluid or something and just present androgynously from that point on.
I unfortunately don’t think we’re going to get a big “oh shit” moment of him revealing the whole thing was a charade or anything. Gender ideologies are so nebulous that literally anything besides detransing is brave and valid uwu

>>1184559
better than a mgtow or qtard. If he can intelligently disagree with a breadtuber he likes on something, I’d give him a chance.
Oh, but if he’s over 25 and watching breadtube, drop him.

No. 1187176

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someone asked contrapoints about philosophy tube's transitioning and his response seems pretty telling. i think it's safe to say that they're not on speaking terms

No. 1187182

>>1184559
Let's set the timer and see how long it takes for him to troon out.

You can probably do better, anon.

No. 1187191

>>1187176
Goddamn, for someone who screams about "twans wights" from the rooftops, thats a cold fucking response to someone transitioning. More so because he doesnt even want to talk about it.
PT's using the transition as a preventative measure for sure

No. 1187192

>>1187176
philosophy tube definitely assaulted contra
that neck clench and choke

No. 1187196

>>1187176
is this from today? this is so awkward it'd be impossible for other people not to notice

No. 1187213

>>1187196
Pretty sure this is a few streams ago judging by the outfit. Contra adamantly tells people to "go back to 4chan" when they bring up PT in the chat these days.

No. 1187225

>>1187176
never seen him talk about blaire like that and they're enemies, interesting to say the least

No. 1187227

>>1187176
I was an original skeptic of the whole 'PT assaulted contra' conspiracy when it was posted in the YT thread, but I've gotta say that is definitely screaming "I don't want to talk about it because something happened". If you disliked someone you'd still probably have an opinion and say something on the topic, but Contra flat-out dodged the whole question. Chilling.

No. 1187411

>>1187176

>that person


Kek not even tossing a she/her for stunning brave PT? Guess not all skinwalkers are valid

Nick seems heavily sedated too, how's that opiod recovery going?

No. 1187489

>>1187411
Every Contra stream is extremely sad, alcohol addled and horribly slurred in speech. It's depressing.

No. 1187500

>>1187489
I used to think transing out ruined his life, but real talk, I think it just made shit that was going to happen anyway happen sooner.
He just seems like someone who was going to go down a bad path regardless.
Having money, attention and fucking with his body only made it worse.

No. 1188627

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>>1187500
i feel like it's just an outlet for his narcissism and vanity… having a ton of surgery and constantly picking at your appearance must really fuck with your head

No. 1189018

Everything about philosophy tube transitioning seems fake to me. The way he acts seems like a complete act from the fake dainty womanly voice and incessant giggling. He also keeps mentioning that he's "one of the most famous trans people in Britain." Is that true or is he just that insanely delusional?

No. 1189024

>>1189018
Famous to fucking who?

No. 1189030

>>1189024
Probably to other Breadtube types? In a recent live stream he mentions that he can't go to public protests and stuff like that because since he's just so famous it'll be a security risk. I cant imagine him being that famous to where he needs a security detail much less in a city as big as London where he's just another busted man in a wig

No. 1189047

>>1189030
fucking ari grande went to a protest but this ugly ass troon can't go to a protest??

No. 1189049

>>1189047
I know she went with security but if someone legit famous can show their face, even if for a photo-op, a troon from youtube can't go out for two mintues?

No. 1189055

>>1189030
Not famous. I have never heard of this person outside of the internet and I live in London.

No. 1189183

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Has anyone come across this channel? It's completely bizarre. This guy is grey-haired and pushing 50 and has spent the past few years trying to pivot from Marvel soy content to making Breadtube-styled videos responding to Breadtuber drama. Really bizarre.

No. 1189259

>>1189183
whys he lying on… trash bags with energy drink cans on them? funny

No. 1189265

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>>1189259
it's a reference to the thumbnail of the contrapoints video he's referencing

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>>1189049
>>1189055
>>1189047
>>1189030
>>1189024
>>1189018

He comes off as raging narcissist with delusions of grandeur. He doesn’t even have 1 million YouTube followers and yet he thinks of himself (and refers to himself out loud over and over again) as being extremely famous. It’s very secondhand embarrassment-inducing.
Also, this is completely off topic, but I hate-watched a few minutes of his most recent stream and nearly threw up when he started performatively eating grapes (or something) in an over the top forced “feminine” way. I can’t even describe it, it was just so gross and troon fetishy

No. 1189556

>>1189267
i'm watching his coming out video and i managed to get to the part where he actually talks as "himself" and one of the first things he does is talk about how living as a man was like a shitty job. he's so delusional and i cant see this as anything else but a masturbatory fantasy or fetish

No. 1189560

>>1189556
Funny he compares it to having a bad job, because it makes it even more obvious to me his trooning out is to get ahead and get better jobs out of pity and this "Fame" he claims he has.

No. 1189571

>>1189560
yeah it's especially funny since someone on kiwi found his records from primary school and he went to some elite all boys boarding school and is from some upper class family where he'd probably never have to work a day in his life

No. 1191336

oh wow, abigail quoting contra with "to paraphrase a very good friend" and contra being like "i'm not in THIS PERSON'S life so…" (not even throwing a sympathy female pronoun for validation) is. Wow.

No. 1191404

Where do guys get the idea that contra and olly ever dated? They live in different continents right?

No. 1191636

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um… there literally is

16 year olds working as cashiers are taught the correct order

its not an old lady thing
your larp is transparently bad

No. 1191639

>>1191636

Not sure if this is bad larping or calling dudes too retarded to bag groceries lmfao

No. 1191683

>>1191636
Does he mean shit like heavy on bottom light on top???
That's common sense even my retard dad knows that

No. 1191739

>>1191404
I don't think they necessarily dated but it's more likely that they did hook up. Last month or in 2019 (Can't remember), I believe they met up and hung out together for a few days. This was before Philosphy Trooned out and it was speculated that he enjoyed the time, much to the point where he wanted to troon out to be closer Contra. It kinda reminds me of when Contra met up with Theryn only he seemed to keep him around as opposed to Ollie.

No. 1191740

>>1189267
That sounds pretty gross (the eating grapes thing…) but yeah, he does seem to have an overly inflated ego about how famous he is. No one that I know knows who he is lol.

No. 1191742

>>1191739
oh i can totally see them hooking up. Man i was not aware of their falling out, ESPECIALLY bc PT is completely in denial about it (last he referred to Contra, he called her "a dear friend".) damn i want to know more lol

>>1191740
unsurprising that an actor is a narcissistic egomaniac lol. In his defense, the UK is a much smaller country than the US, and having 1mil subs is a pretty big deal, especially in the smaller circle that is Left discourse, and especially especially bc he came out as trans in a moment where that is the big debate over there.

No. 1191799

>>1191742
I noticed I goofed in my last post, I meant "last year" not last month. I just remember reading about them meeting up on the Kiwi Forums and how many speculated they most definitely hooked up lol But I can't say I'm surprised that Contra wants nothing to do with him now, he's just as narcissistic as Ollie and two narcissistic personalities cannot coexist together, at least not for a long period anyway and also because Contra can no longer claim the token troon of Breadtube since now Ollie is doing it too lol.

And ah I see. Yeah I'm American so it probably is different in the UK when it comes to YouTube fan.

No. 1194303

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Lindsay Ellis tweeted some dumb shit that her hyper-sensitive following would hate to hear from a white woman and then doubled down, and then deleted her twitter.

No. 1194316

>>1194303
rofl these are usually thoughts you keep to yourself, but these idiots always have to use Twitter like a personal diary

No. 1194356

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>>1194303
That's a tweet from last year. This one about Raya is what set her followers off and got her to delete. Funny thing is, I actually agree with her, but this is what she gets for courting the kind of audience she has nowadays, lbr.

No. 1194359

>>1194356
I mean she ain't wrong. There's nothing to disagree about here. I bet Lindsay doesn't act woke behind the scenes I mean she wrote a song about rape for crying out loud.

No. 1194365

>>1194356
Wow that is what she's being cancelled for? I thought people just found the one I posted and got mad retrospectively. The one about Raja isn't even offensive.

No. 1194378

>>1194365
It probably resurfaced because twitter's favorite activity after a prominent figure gets softly cancelled is to look for receipts to justify their overreaction. The Raya tweet is tame but that Harriet tweet is chef's kiss

No. 1194432

>>1194356
I think the issue they had is that Asian culture inspiration =/= Avatar.
I haven't seen the movie yet but the 'avatar reduxes' are just movies inspired by Asian culture so it's all kind of dumb.

No. 1194608

>>1194356
it isn't offensive but it is funny as shit. Raya and Avatar's only common elements are taken from the mithology of the countries they take place in.
>>1194359
Quinton has mentioned that she's more edgy behind the scenes than she tries to appear, I don't like the guy but I believe him on that 100%.
No pity for her, she tries way too hard to appeal to the woke crowd and unironically says shit like "yikes" out loud. Her Mel brooks video is still good, the bush era music one is so limited, the transphobia one was just the last straw.

No. 1194653

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>>1194608
Sad thing is, I became a fan because of that Mel Brooks video essay because she understood that audiences today are satire-illiterate and too quick to "cancel" based on subject matter alone. And now look at her.

Anyway to make this comment not so useless, people have been bringing up receipts left and right and it turns out that she's guilty of the gravest SJW sin of them all - coming after the poor twans

No. 1194666

>>1194653
is she wrong though? Trans men pass much more easily than trans women, and it reflects in how well people treat them irl.

No. 1194679

>>1194666
She's not wrong but its still fucking hilarious to see her get canceled by her own bizzare woke fan base

No. 1194686

>>1194653
Maybe this'll get her to reconsider her stance on siccing her fans on people she doesn't like publicly. She has vocally defended her public reactions to people less influential than her (some were shitty people but still far less relevant than her) and said she should essentially get to inspire her fans to dogpile on them or how else is she meant to live and express herself freely??? Well, those same fragile fans are now against her. Contra at least learned a lesson on cancelling people, Lindsay needed to also learn.

No. 1194690

>>1194432
I’ve seen Raya and what I think she meant that the themes are similar. But it’s just a fantasy adventure with political conflicts and ensemble cast, something that has happened way before ATLA. Americans can be kind of obnoxious with comparing everything with ATLA, like Zuko was the first villain with redemption ever.

No. 1194694

>>1194653
I checked in these resurfing takes and I'm surprised no one mentioned her insane "Sasha Baron Cohen is wrong about antisemitism" take on her Borat video. Like Sasha said as a rich jewish guy he doesn't face much issues in the uk and she thinks she can just tell him how wrong he is. That was the one that made me lose respect for her, I'm so tired of hyperwoke gentiles lecturing jewish comedians about antisemitism, it's such a change from her Mel Brooks video

No. 1194750

>>1194653
if trans men are men, then YES Cis women are more oppressed. This is what she gets for trying to cape for these people who love nothing more then to cancel women.

No. 1194925

A bizzare take because if shes referring to Jesuotaku of course he hasnt faced the vitriol contra has, no one has a fucking clue who he is and his only claim to fame was his brief stint at channel awesome before transisioning lol

No. 1195557

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Just posted to her patreon. tl;dr twitter was making her "so unhappy" which is why she's been so rude lately or something. She thanks everyone who's still supportive. The comments are full of people simping for her. You know what, I honestly hope she DOES fuck off twitter forever. It's for the best.

No. 1195605

>>1195557
tbh this "break" just comes off at a denial that even someone as ~woque~ as herself could be canceled by the hivemind. if she paints this as 100% voluntary she can just pretend like the crown never slipped

No. 1195634

>>1195605
Breadtubers getting cancelled by the woke twitter mob they helped create is honestly hilarious, I can't to see who gets canceled next

No. 1195640

>>1195634
Place your bets!

No. 1195656

>>1195640
I feel Shawn maybe

No. 1195888

>>1195656
maybe hbomberguy? im shocked that more people haven't tried to considering he has rape/assault allegations

No. 1196054

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No. 1196116

>>1196054
>I’ve been sitting on this for a while, faffing about whether I should post it somewhere or not, for a lot of reasons (including that my reputation will be shot to shit now, everyone will know I’m transgender and some of my history of sexual assault).

>On the other hand, Hbomberguy is making his career off being a “sjw feminist” when he has the balls to say shit like what he did. It infuriates me to know that he still not only is friends with a guy he has outright admitted is a fucking creeper but has him contribute to his videos and moderate his livestreams. I’m fucking furious that I only feel I can post this because I’ve left the gaming industry all together and “have nothing to lose” mental-health wise because otherwise I’d be fucked out of a career when my real name is attached to this, whether by his supporters or anti-feminists who can’t wait to see another person like me destroyed/kill themselves for speaking up.


>What I want from posting this is that everyone starts holding him accountable for this bullshit. I want people to know that when it comes time to actually put his feminism into practice, he’s shit the bed. People need to hold him to his word and he needs to actually demonstrate he isn’t just another white cis man making money off repeating what everyone else around him is saying while doing the same shit anti-feminists are doing. I do want him to actually get better and grow as a person - I just don’t want it to have to get to this point where it’s at my fucking life’s work and career’s expense.


>Happy International Woman’s Day everyone, and Fuck You Hbomberguy.


>And be wary, that does seem to be getting brigaded. When I first found the top post it was at -8, at time of posting (~40min later) it was at -3. Which given the size of the sub and how old the post is does not come off as normal. Archive incase the mods get delete happy.

No. 1196131

>>1196054
this is a nothingburger. My bet is on Sarah Z, because women and trannies always get the worst shot in these circles, and she made the big mistake of posting some dumb thread about "twitter toxicity". Also Sarah, Jenny and Lindsay are all rampant anti-reylos for some bizarre reason.

No. 1196136

>>1196131
Sarah has also admitted of liking m/m shipping, she could probably get canceled for that

No. 1196147

>>1196131
Sarah Z is also honestly irritating in how full of herself she is in her videos. She used to post a ton on the Killing/Stalking sub when the webtoon was still coming out. Though it’s a tough call on whether her whole mob followers would find that comic problematic or “realistic portrayal of toxic relationships where no one is happy so it’s ok”. Could go either way for her.

No. 1196202

>>1196131
Calling Jenny a rampant anti-reylo seems like a massive reach, just because she made some jokes about the unhinged ones here and there. If anything she is sympathetic to them and likes Kylo Ren as a character and wanted him to have a better ending than he got.

No. 1196204

>>1196147
The way SarahZ talks is so long winded and annoying. She’s always pre-clarifying things she’s talking about, to try to preemptively argue with anyone who might comment.

>>1196131
How is this a nothingburger? Hbomberguy caping for a sex pest and trying to gaslight a woman about what she is claiming to have experienced, straight up telling her he doesn’t believe her. That’s a pretty bad look.

No. 1196210

>>1196147
>post on the killing stalking subreddit
Fucking seriously, do you have any screenshots

No. 1196218

>>1196131
Sarah Z has psycho white girl vibes that make my skin crawl in ways I can't even describe. I don't even know what bothers me so much about her; I just get the feeling she's up to no good.

No. 1196227

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Gotta love it when Contra inadvertently defends actual confirmed pedophile-enabler Aimee Challenor. Only like 1 out of every 10 replies is trying to explain the reddit situation to him.

No. 1196230

>>1196131
What? People accuse Jenny of being a reylo all the time though. And in reality she just doesn't seem to care about the ship that much and speaks about it pretty diplomatically.

No. 1196256

>>1196227
Troons always back up other troons, even when it’s a pedo

No. 1196258

>>1195640
I would LOVE to see PhilosophyTube canceled. Such skin-crawlingly creepy predator vibes.

No. 1196338

>>1196131
Sometimes I enjoy watching sarahs tumblr history videos but good god is she annoying with the constant shoehoring of tra shit. I can see the "cis women aren't allowed to read/watch mlm content because it fetishizes them and makes them uncomfortable" crowd to cancel her. And what's up with that claim anyway? Porn in general fetishizes anything and everything.
>>1196147
>>1196210
I'd love to see this too kek

No. 1196487

>>1196338
i can't fucking stand her continously pouring water in her oversized cup while she's talking and the fact that she ticks off so many cool girl wannabe boxes, when she came out as bi (sorry, PAN) i was like of course she is

No. 1196640

>>1196131
jenny isn't an anti reylo? she skirts the line around it definitely, but it wouldn't surprise me if she was. she has mentioned it in videos but i think it's so that she gets reylo fans to watch her videos (she has made jokes about wanting to get te 40 year old Disney mom and reylo shipper demographic)
plus, people were getting mad at her over that one old clip of her from 2015 where she makes a joke about the janitors in Disney parks looking like finn. sarah z just comes off as a fandom tumblr containment breach. she's mostly harmless
>>1196258
same

No. 1196906

>>1196338
If she gets cancelled for that then I guarantee it’ll be by a bunch of fakebois who are guilty of the same thing kek

No. 1196947

Merrick Deville got banned and is now ban-evading on twitter

https://twitter.com/eldritchmother

No. 1196964

>>1196947
she's fucking awful, post this on the leftthots thread

No. 1197137

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Straight to begging corporations for money from their virtue-signaling funds. Oppression: profiting off being a non-passing troon after a measly 2 months of being out.

No. 1197156

>>1197137
This boils my piss. I have artistic friends who are struggling and this guy's gonna get the red carpet rolled out for his debut shitshow because he's a) trans and b) famous on the youtubes.

No. 1197274

>>1197137
soooooo anti-capitalist

No. 1197448

>>1197137
what a corporate bootlicker. Could have just made a kickstarter/indiegogo

No. 1197455

>>1197137
he's not even hiding it. He's about to cash in on troon shit, while pretending he's doing it for some greater good, when truth is he failed as a man trying to act/produce now he's trying it as a " woman" but a "Special" woman, a trans woman.
notice how demanding he's being? Wow. I feel like he's going to cancelled soon, he's way too cocky. In fact if he does get big, I can see Contra's depressed ass spilling something negative about him.

No. 1197666

>>1197455
honestly can't wait, he's always given off creepy vibes and this was the last straw. Honestly, if twitter can cancel someone over something idiotic like "the new cartoon sure reminds me a lot of another older cartoon" they should have a field day with good ol oliver

No. 1197789

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Oliver sees someone talking about their autistic son’s developmental accomplishments. Olly responds, making it all about himself and his trans-ness.

No. 1198048

>>1197789
>most of my memories [of being 17] belong to a dead man and now feel like they came from someone else

It's called getting older. His gender identity is his midlife crisis

No. 1198050

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patricia oliver thorne bateman's new video is on jordan peterson… cow on cow violence

No. 1198155

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>>1198050
That hideous feathery thing immediately made me think of (picrel)

No. 1198169

>>1197789
holy shit that's amazing, can you even imagine trying to be friends with that person. How long till she'll also claim some form of autism for extra simpathy points?

No. 1198170

>>1198050
Jordan Peterson sucks but he seems like a dead horse at this point. Every breadtuber has done a video on him. I know he has a new book out so hopefully there’s new content to discuss and not the same old points they usually make against him.

No. 1198220

>>1198169
>that person
>she’ll
It’s ok, nonnie, you can say he/him.

No. 1198225

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>>1196338
>>1196210

Sorry anons, I was the anon who posted about her posting on the K/S sub and totally forgot to check this thread. I noticed it about a year ago when she posted on the r/BreadTube sub, posting her own videos and answering fans’ questions. When I went to her profile I saw she used to post in the K/S sub frequently, but shes since deleted the posts and comments of her confirming she is Sarah Z. I guess so people can’t link her back to her old shit.

Pic related, her account (u/Sazley) posting about a K/S fan game 1/3

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No. 1198227

>>1198225
kek great find anon

No. 1198228

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>>1198226
She deleted comments admitting to being Sarah, but couldn’t hide from removeddit

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>>1198228
It’s actually very easy to hide from removeddit. She’s apparently just been drinking too much dumb bitch juice.

No. 1198240

>>1198225
Thank you for delivering!

No. 1198242

>>1198228
trying not to be a bitch so sorry if i come off as one, but this is milk why? cus she likes a shitty manwa that relies too much on 3d assets? Or is it actual ground for her fanbase going apeshit on her? I honestly don't know, i always found K/S nothing more than torture porn and never got into it or its fandom

No. 1198245

>>1198242
being a fujo is a terrible sin in woke circles, you are fetishizing those poor mlms!

No. 1198247

>>1198245
ah, of course. i wouldnt think anything of it but they did manage to cancel their most prominent figure over her comment about a fucking disney movie so i'm sure sarah has her days numbered

No. 1198250

>>1198242
Depends on who you ask and how well Sarah can spin her liking it as just “from a critical standpoint” for the “story” and not because she likes it for the problematic gay shit like everyone else who read it.

Like with Lindsay, she is too deep in the woke community she helped create and cater to that will cancel her over anything they see as “problematic

>>1198245 funny how she reads tons of m/m content but SHE isn’t the fujoshi guys! She’s just here for the story, not like the rest of you!

No. 1198255

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Samefag but looks like the mob is already turning on Sarah anyways because she told a fan who was being harassed to “go outside” but when Lindsay got cancelled she went off about cancel culture

No. 1198256

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No. 1198262

>>1198256
oh lol right, the whole proshipper thing. TBH i agree with sarah, it's an incredibly idiotic thing to think you're being harassed over fucking ships of all things, it's really a product of being terminally online.

No. 1198264

>>1198262
As much as I dislike Sarah I also agree.


Funny how breadtube ranks are dropping like flies. Is PT still delusional that he and contra are besties? I’m surprised I didn’t see more people talking about contra snubbing PT and saying “that person isn’t in my life anymore”. I thought that was gonna blow up more than it did

No. 1198267

>>1198264
yeah, for sure! i swear i saw some comments being like "omg wlw queens! now they're gonna date for sure!" completely unaware they arent even friends anymore, and tbf i never saw that clip outside of this thread; but it's just so juicy it's weird it didnt blow up at all

No. 1198274

>>1198242

in addition to what all the other anons have said, killing/stalking is also massively controversial in the wokesphere because it contains rape and murder but also it's gay. so if you're not treating it like the bible of the antichrist, not only are you fetishizing mlms but you are also fetishizing abuse, and people tend to go ballistic over that. the only permitted mlm shipping content they stand for is ~pure and wholesome uwu beans~ where the hyper-femme uber-twink bottom is totally not cope for hating women and is totally not fetishistic of mlm in and of itself

that said since ks is over and its peak of controversy has come and gone, i don't think the cancellation can start there unless some fannibals tried to nail her for hypocrisy. but i do think it's some pretty solid shit people will sling at her once she starts going down

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>>1198264
>>1198267
>I’m surprised I didn’t see more people talking about contra snubbing PT and saying “that person isn’t in my life anymore”. I thought that was gonna blow up more than it did

Me too! I think the only explanation is that not many people saw it, because the comment occurred about 11.5 hours into a 12-hour stream. Who was even still watching at that point? The clip has been posted here and on KF, but I’m sure most wokesters don’t frequent these types of sites.

No. 1198280

>>1198276
you're right, i am one and i'm absolutely too much of a coward to show my ass and try to get the clip have any traction on twitter on my main account lmaoooo

No. 1198283

>>1198050
contra made a video on jordan peterson so now he has to as well. how many daddy jokes will he rip off from contra's video?

No. 1198286

>>1198283
counting down the days where the new obsession will be Mia Moulder, they sound very close on twitter and Mia ticks off a lot of what is seem his type (intellectual, not overly feminine, long face, etc)

No. 1198329

>>1198283
is JP even still relevant between the right? wasnt he in a coma over eating too much meat lol? "fellas is it gay to eat zucchini so i don't get scurvy"

No. 1198346

>>1198255
>>1198264
Its interesting what's happening, breadtube was sorta created (or more accurately forced created) as a way to counter the right wing influencers on the Internet and it seems to have a worked, I mean right wing YouTubers are seen as a joke by most of the internet and mostly mocked but now the breadtubers are tearing themselves apart or are being torn apart by their own community of fans that they helped create and its over shit no normal human being cares about

I honestly think the whole thing will collapse in less then 2 years

No. 1198375

>>1198329
He is going to have an interview with Elon Musk so more brainfucked incels are going to join his ideology.

No. 1198448

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how many glamour shots does one """woman""" need. surprisingly, people in the comments are actually pushing back on the tweet instead of the usual choir of "Stunning and Brave"

No. 1198464

>>1198448
how does the UK not grant trans people the same rights in terms of marriage and having children? what a crock of shite. there are some issues with adoption if that's what he means, but those issues also exist for same sex couples, unmarried couples, single parents, couples with no children, and even working class couples to the same extent (if not more in some cases). then again, the whole post is unhinged bullshit - i'm almost surprised he didn't start ranting about those even teenage girls and their abortions again.

No. 1198475

>>1198448
How does this dumbass even reconcile self-ID and free healthcare?

No. 1198488

>>1198448
he's so fucking goofy looking.

No. 1198495

>>1198448
>no more consultations
>informed consent

pick one

No. 1198507

>>1198495
his diseased mind imagines only have one consultation for troon procedures, where the only information they give him is that surgery is going to hurt and estrogen can make him emotional.

of course he'll never admit it but he and most troons think that actual serious warnings on hormones and various surgeries are terf bullshit.

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>>1198448
I’m really enjoying these replies.
(1/2)

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No. 1198564

>>1198256
I know this sounds silly but for someone who's in art twitter, harassment of pro-shippers is something out of this world. Discord groups are organized to target jojo artists, girls are constantly told to kill themselves for fiding an anime boy character hot, it's a weird wave of concern-trolling, mostly organized by grown ass "they-them"s in their late 20s with an army of minors. I've only seen the deal from the sidelines tho, as I'm not into m/m, but they're generally a lot more aggressive than they are to coomer artists and such.

No. 1198722

>>1198564
As an “anti” who doesn’t get involved in these twitter wars, I’m sorry the they/thems are suicide baiting your friends. I would love to team up to suicide bait male coomers instead, if you’re interested. Maybe one day we’ll be able to look back and laugh at all of this as we hold hands and touch grass together.

No. 1198743

>>1198564
Sage for OT used to be a part of group of "antis" and I don't think there were any sort of non-binary or Troons(In fact a lot of them were explicitly gender critical) but they were like extreme moral guardian's who belived straight characters should be shipped with the opposite gender, no age gaps, no power difference, no sort of abusive dynamics, no bdsm e.t.c

On some level I did agree with them, cause I do feel that there ware a lot of problematic aspects with ships(especially the m/m ones) that should be called out but they often went way extreme and were abusive and hostile

No. 1198858

>>1198346
>will collapse in less then 2 years
Isn't it already basically collapsed? The only people left are the woke zombie horde, which is not really a group of people, more like a ball of energy that's still going on momentum alone. They haven't dissipated yet but the motor powering them bit its own tail and stopped going anywhere

No. 1198955

>>1198858
What fuels it is that people who aren’t part of the woke crowd, but who hate the person being canceled, will often play into the fake outrage just because they want to see them go down. Basically like you said, momentum alone.

No. 1199343

>>1198346
it's incredible how fast political trends go on the internet. Anti-sjw was all the rage barely 5 years ago, then died, and it's probably gonna be back soon, probably in some form of edgy left wing.

No. 1199824

>>1174666
4chan's /lgbt/ guessed it a year advanced with I think a few of them speculating 18-24 months before then.

No. 1199826

>>1198346
It's unironically capitalism. More and more people are becoming apolitical and thus they have to shred each other apart to get that diminishing market. Fight fire with fire? Lol.

No. 1200501

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did contrapoints move homes? also peep lindsay's book in the stack

No. 1200520

>>1200501
That’s such a display book pile, what a poseur

No. 1200526

Someone said in the MTF thread recently that PT comes from a rich family. Does he ever mention this and is it confirmed? I know he went to a very prestigious university and private school.

No. 1200529

>>1200526
well according to him he is descendant of british royalty

No. 1200530

>>1199343
it is back and it’s dying again, it’s called the dirtbag left

No. 1200580

>>1200529
Surely that would have been sarcasm?

No. 1200583

>>1200501
It looks musty already.

No. 1200602

>>1200580
Absolutely not, there are many British politicians and businessmen who can trace their lineage back to nobility/royalty including most if not all of our prime ministers. Name any British actor and you're likely to have named an Etonian/noble.

No. 1200756

>>1200501
Money sure doesn't buy taste. That poor wilting orchid.

No. 1200797

Would Lily Orchard be considered part of Breadtube?

No. 1200902

>>1200797
more of a breadtube wannabe, like quinton.

No. 1200971

I mean, if by breadtube you mean a lefty with an unwarranted superiority complex, sure; but he's too far up his own ass with thinking cartoons have way more bearing on reality to say anything remotely interesting politically. Gotta say i am fascinated by his own resiliance in the face of pretty serious accusations, pedophilia and rape among those. He always ends up coming up with new labels to protect himself of any accusations, first he said he's native american, then trans, then raped and now he's poly. Gotta love the creativity /s

No. 1201148

>>1200520
>Gyo
gashunk gashunk shark manga lmao.
contra is such a grifter, how do his fans not see right through his act?

No. 1201239

>>1200971
>i am fascinated by his own resiliance in the face of pretty serious accusations, pedophilia and rape among those
She/he/whatever deflects them by calling out other brony pedos.

No. 1201291

>>1200501
lol he only reads childrens' books, manga, and shit you read in a community college humanities course

No. 1201299

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-56606897

Abigail Thorn was on the bbc. Don't think this has been posted yet. Must have hella connections to get yourself covered like this honestly

No. 1201301

>>1201299
I guess >>1200529 might be true then.

No. 1201303

>>1201299
>>1200529
>>1201301
Oliver Cromwell unironically did nothing wrong. Good fucking God what a travesty.

No. 1201304

>>1201303
Sage and don't even know why I did this but as a brit bong I assumed PT was a commoner like me and just happened to get into a top university because he was smart. I'm too trusting.

No. 1201324

>>1201299

This ballbag says he doesn't have equal marriage rights or healthcare which is a big fat fucking horsefaced lie. If a half decent journalist was conducting this interview he'd be called out on all his porkies but nah

No. 1201331

>>1201324
It's the fucking BBC, the same publication that can't stop demonstrating their hard on for getting Assange executed. You wish those pig fuckers would give a shit about journalism.

No. 1201336

>>1201331
Wtf I love BBC now

No. 1201397

>>1201299
I read multiple UK news sites daily including society/culture/LGBT interest stuff, and the only place I saw this mentioned was on Reddit. So much for “making headlines”. Ollie is really getting a fat head with delusions of being the English Caitlyn Jenner.

No. 1201456

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Contra made and quickly deleted these tweets about getting srs

No. 1201462

>>1201304
He used to brag about how rich and noble and connected his family was before it went out of style, even admitted that they pulled strings to get him into university. I don't have caps on me but I remember someone posting them in another thread forever ago.
>>1201456
I really wonder what he's gonna do when he gets botched. Lie and pretend it's everything he wanted? Throw a fit and make himself out to be the victim? Time to start placing bets ladies

No. 1201468

>>1201462
What can I say, sasuga commie

No. 1201469

>>1201456
>research seems daunting
And having a neovag installed doesnt?

No. 1201473

>>1201456
What was he thinking, crowdsourcing SRS surgeons from a fanbase mostly composed of untransitioned teen enbies lmao

No. 1201475

>>1201462
he doesn’t seem like the double down type but the fact research is apparently too much for him pretty much guarantees he’s gonna be miserable with the results, regardless of what emotions he shows.

No. 1201485

>>1201473
Oh my god is contra getting cancelled over wanting a surgery? I love these crowds, "my body my rules!!" Until it's something that i wouldnt do lol

No. 1201486

>>1201331
Was this supposed to make the BBC sound bad somehow?

No. 1201489

>>1201331
The fuck you mean executed, dude is still in ecuador presumably raping at his heart's content

No. 1201511

>>1201462
at 19:45 in this video he talks about being descended from some obscure royal. he claims his family lost most of their money through gambling but somehow still went to private school.

No. 1201522

>>1201511
Wondering if he's the kind of silver spoon little bitch who think havin 50k as a baseline for your bank account is being extra poor

No. 1201548

>>1201522
but now he's a the most famous trans woman in the UK and he's fighting for trans women because he can't get married, he can't get decent healthcare or adopt. He really thinks he's a fucking hero and he's done NOTHING but talk about himself.
>>1201456
I predicted he'd want to get the surgery, it's weird how coomers get their dick chopped but they love tranny porn and trans pornstars who ALL have working decent sized dicks.
Trans without dicks are unpopular. I guess he'll find some dude to fuck his neo-pocket. Also do your own reasearch, that is a serious surgery, every troon is going to say, "oh my doctor did this or that" and make it seem like it's the best in the world.

No. 1201550

>>1201511
>he claims his family lost most of their money through gambling but somehow still went to private school
idk but this is just making him sound like more of a pathological liar
he's definitely a narcissist, i'll give you that

No. 1201621

>>1201456
I don't think Nick will last long if he gets the chop. Long enough to have sex, probably. I'm not entirely sure what sort of "lesbian" activity he's looking for after the fact, though. Even if he pulls in some self-loathing handmaiden, they usually start having panic attacks or refusing sex once they realize what they're working with. He's already depressed, so he'll probably 41% after he becomes even more alone and stops being able to coom.
Also, I feel like I remember him bragging about his dick size, before he trooned out. Let's test that theory. Will he invert his schlong, or make a second butthole?

No. 1201692

>>1201548
He's nowhere near the most famous trans woman in the UK. Off the top of my head -
Debbie Hayton
Kellie Maloney
Paris Lees
Miranda Yardley
Eddie Izzard (genderfluid but in 'girl mode' now apparently)

No. 1201693

>>1201550
He's made a bunch of improbable claims, I can't recall them all right now. One includes his mom being the person with the most precise color vision in the world.

No. 1201713

What a bizzare thing to brag about

No. 1201803

>>1201511
He is INSUFFERABLE jesus. I thought his pre-contra skinwalking content would be better but it's just him being a narcissist that makes it unwatchable. I hate him for making me sympathetic to contra for having to interact with his penis

No. 1201975

Should PhilosophyTroon have his own thread? Not complaining about him being posted here. Just noticing that anons have a lot to say about him.

No. 1201979

>>1201975
ehhhh I’d say that all of breadtube is incestuous enough that having individual threads for PT and contrapoints would just be a bit of a headache
The milk is more of a steady trickle than a stream, too. I’d say this thread is at a good level of activity.

No. 1202022

>>1201979
Good points, anon.

No. 1202179

>>1201975
seconding >>1201979, contra and PT have separate threads on kiwifarms but they might as well be the same one since they overlap pretty frequently

No. 1202471

>>1202466
Learn 2 sage.
The topic you mentioned has been discussed extensively in this thread already.
Here are some posts, out of order:
>>1187227
>>1187213
>>1187192
>>1187191
>>1187176
>>1184421
>>1184313
>>1184300
>>1184280
>>1184023
>>1183729
>>1174967
>>1174668

No. 1203203

Sorry to samefag but when I said
>>1202471
I wasn’t trying to shut the entire conversation up, or imply that it had been discussed enough already. I was just responding to a post asking if anyone had heard of the PT/Contra assault rumor.

No. 1203281

>>1203203
is there any archived version of the 4chan thread on that? i don't really use those boards an my understanding is that everything is now lost. I guess the only thing we have is the masterpost posted here earlier? I really wish Olly would piss someone off and they'd spill the beans, breadtube is due to a honest to god scandal that's a little more substantial than "by having a .02 seconds cameo in her video, contrapoints said that XX is NOT valid!" you know?

No. 1203346

>>1203281
there are a lot of sites that archive 4chan threads (warosu is one that i can think of off the top of my head), but if you go to one of the sites that archives /lgbt and search "contra" or "philosophy tube" i'm sure you'll find something

No. 1203468

>>1198276
wait does anyone have caps or a source on contra saying that?

No. 1203511


No. 1203575

>>1203511
Ice cold. I would love to see more of Nick publicly snubbing Olly.

No. 1203579

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No, Olly. Stay the fuck away from us.

No. 1203583

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Huh.

No. 1203597

>>1203579
"quite pressing reason" = stalking Contra

No. 1203608

>>1201511
I don't want to be mean but I can't get over how gross PT looked before the transition. I actually consider this transition to have been an upgrade.

No. 1203678

>>1203583
Lol he really did scam his way to an acting career by trooning out. What a sociopath you kind of have to admire it

No. 1203703

>>1203608
he's not exactly handsome but i guess he's above average for breadtube and online leftists' standards. most people who are that terminally online aren't exactly known for being super attractive. even contrapoints wasn't bad looking prior to trooning out. PT post-transition seems so surreal. he looks like a man in a wig and acts like a shallow stereotype of a woman

No. 1203704

>>1203678
It couldn’t be more apparent at this point jfc. No shame whatsoever.

No. 1203767

>>1203579
no offense US people, but the idea of olly wetting his skirt hearing "HEY GEDDAOUDDA MY WAY, IM WALKIN OVAH HERE" in a thick NY accent is immensely funny to me

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No. 1203920

>>1203919
Absolutely beautiful anon

No. 1203925

>>1203919
KEK this is incredible

No. 1203928

>>1203919
anon please make more

No. 1203932


No. 1203952

>>1201456
contra is thinking about upping the ante to try and outshine philosophy tube, but is having a moment of clarity seeing the ugly reality of srs.

No. 1203953

>>1203919
The way you captured Olly's massive pepperoni titties. Beautiful. Next thread pic

No. 1203964

>>1203919
are those heroine syringes?! anon you are an Artiste.

No. 1203970

>>1203919
i cannot imagine being attracted to contra kek his voice has never improved from "gay man upping their pitch". even blaire passes better

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>>1203970
the 'tube just likes whatever makes his girlscythe hard

No. 1204011

>>1203970

It's the money and the clout. Contra has loads of it, in excess. Olly is just looking to ride off his coattails.

No. 1204059

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uh oh!

No. 1204085

>>1204059
has he always behaved this way? I really feel like he thinks being a woman means being "sassy" and not having normal "rules", but also because he's a "trans" woman, he has even less rules and can do whatever he wants without expecting any backlash.
I don't know if that makes sense.

No. 1204139

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Anyone else get a huge woke black Incel vibe from T1J(he's as of now the main Token black guy of breadtube)

He seems way to much interested in white or Asian women and almost never mentions black women in any context

No. 1204140

>>1204139
wasn't he an anti-sjw back in the day?

No. 1204147

>>1204139
Whenever men/trannies make this exact point as a "gotcha," they're just admitting that they see no difference between sex and gender. Blatant homophobia and conversion therapy rhetoric aside, it's basically an invitation to point out that, if TWAW to that degree, surely we should be giving them medical treatment for female bodies instead of male bodies and not bothering with HRT, GRS, implants, or FFS/FMS. Your body is already female, no?

No. 1204148

>>1204140
So were Contra, Shaun, and PT, iirc. Incels don't change, they just rebrand.

No. 1204214

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The swedish murderer is bragging how him and his girlfriend had a baby through state sponsored IVF

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>>1204214
And how he was only on probation for a year.

No. 1204219

>>1204214
>>1204218
While I understand why you would think this is the MtF general, I think you are in the wrong thread.

No. 1204307

>>1204140
>>1204148
I swear hbomberguy used to be too. His earliest YouTube videos (now deleted) were rebuttals to Anita Sarkeesian. Then I guess he spent enough time on the anti-sarkeesian side of YouTube that he realized what a bunch of losers they all were and he switched to making fun of them.
I remember finding his videos making fun of the sarkeesian effect guys when they were new, and liking his humor. So I went and checked his older videos and was surprised that he seemed to be arguing both sides.
Now if you go to his YouTube channel and sort by oldest first, his “sarkeesian effect” response videos are the oldest ones there. I can find no evidence of his older videos but I’m 99.99% sure they were on there. I am starting to doubt my own memory though. I wish I had downloaded them at the time but I didn’t know he’d become a thing. This was 5-6 years ago.

No. 1204327

>>1204307
sorry for samefagging, the furthest back his waybackmachine archive shows is mid-2016 so I can't find any of his older videos. There's a chance I am mistaken but I really believe I remember seeing this.
Any chance anyone else remembers this, or was he not really on anyone's radar yet back then?

No. 1204505

i discovered him around the same time and i can't say i've ever seen those videos you talk about; i did notice a lot more quips against sarkisian by Contra in the early videos, but i can't recall from Hbomberguy.
I wouldnt rule out the possibility that in your memories you fused more than one fugly pasty white guy and assumed it was all hbomberguy lol

No. 1204565

ok so olly is full skinwalking contra and is doing a jordan peterson video (who even still talks about JP anyway, i've personally heard of him again because marvel of all people decided to troll him). By this measure of remaking every Contrapoint videos, what do you think will be next? My money is on "darkness" or "transtrender". Then again one about climate change ("apocalypse") would be pretty inconspicuous so maybe that?

No. 1204704

>>1204307
Hbomberguy used to be an admin in the Metokur forum, which was dedicated to trolling and triggering people online with offensive remarks, as were many groups like encyclopedia dramatica forum, something awful and butthurt brigade. The proof of this was in a mister metokur video where he showed a screenshot that had hbomberguy on the admin list, and a few testimonies. I'm sure he genuinely changed since then, but it's interesting that he's feeded by trolling remorse.

No. 1204884

anyone watch this?

No. 1204893

>>1204884
it was mentioned before, but nobody cares about Peterson since that embarassing debate with Slavoj Zizek.

No. 1204894

>>1174665
>>1204884
Tried to, but gave up within a few minutes. Idk, this thread has me seriously questioning PT lol the whole transition seems weirdly sketchy to me now. The voice and mannerisms feel so put on, especially in this video. I know PT was always theatrical or whatever, but there's something really inauthentic about this new upload.

No. 1204896

>>1204085
women have life on easy mode, duh!!!!

No. 1204903

>>1204884
At about 7:05, she brings up "an old friend who is a transwoman". I bet it's contra. She wants to be acknowledged by her soooo bad.
Also everytime she talks about trans things it sounds exactly like videos that contra has already made it's so creepy

No. 1204908

>>1204884
the bit about british police brutality, lol. Bitch where? British police can't even carry weapons

No. 1204913

>>1204893
Wtf was embarrassing about the debate anon

No. 1204914

>>1204884
weird ass extensive talk of incest

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>>1204704
Thanks for the info. Got any screenshots or videos? I think it was right around 2014/2015 that he switched to his current politics, most likely be realizing he was surrounded by idiots in the anti-sarkeesian circles he probably used to actually believe in. I wonder how involved with gamergate he was before that, if at all. I’ve been having trouble finding any other dirt on him, or really anything on him at all from before 2015/2016. It would be funny if some things came to light and he was forced to address it. Then again, he’s male, so I doubt he’d get crucified as badly for maybe being an ex-gamer hater as Lindsay Ellis did for having a mildly spicy opinion about cartoons.

No. 1204951

>>1204932
didn't he excuse friend who a (woman)trans man accused of sexual assault or something like that? I can't remember the details but I think thats what happened.
And yeah he's a man, women get cancelled for anything but men will get three strikes unless they really do something fucked up.

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>>1204951
Something like that. I’ll try to sum it up briefly but this is bound to be a long comment:
Apparently someone who was working for him (hbomberguy) said that she had a problem with someone Harry was friends with, but didn’t want to talk about it because she needed to keep her job to avoid becoming homeless. She was worried that telling Harry his friend was a maybe-rapist would lose her that job. (Spoiler: it did)
But Harry pushes her to talk about it anyway because it’s been really bothering him. (Instance #1 of him prioritizing his own feelings when approached by a woman saying she’d been victimized in some way.)
So she tells him this story about how his best friend invited her on a date and then said a bunch of creepy stuff implying he was going to rape her on the date. Or that he wanted to do rapeplay, or purposely get each other drunk to have sex “without being able to say no” or some gross weird thing. She wasn’t into that idea so he called off the date. Then she felt weird about it and didn’t tell anyone for a long time.
Harry’s response: he doesn’t try to ask her any followup questions or anything that could maybe verify what she’s saying. Instead he basically says she waited too long to bring it up, and he doesn’t believe her now, and he even tries telling her that her memory can’t possibly be correct.
Then he again makes it all about himself by being like “I have to go, I feel awful about this.” He says a bunch more self deprecating things about how he’s awful and such a terrible friend for not believing her, but he confirms he’s going to stay friends with the alleged creep and does not in fact believe the accuser at all.
They then agree to part ways and never speak again.
I am just recounting a weak secondhand version of what I remember from this, so I could be wrong. And I’m not even saying I agree with the accuser that “some guy said he wanted to do weird kink shit I wasn’t okay with and then called off our date when I didn’t consent” necessarily counts as a violation of consent. According to her, he didn’t really do anything to her.
My issue is with Harry’s public persona of “one of the good guys” and “male feminist” compared to his reaction to being told a male friend of his violated a woman’s consent. Instead of asking more questions about it or discussing why she felt that way, trying to clarify things, etc. he just jumps straight to “no, you must be misremembering things. This whole situation makes me feel like shit, goodbye” with an unspoken “and by the way you’re fired.”
If you think the person approaching him is full of shit or their story doesn’t make sense, that’s fair, but his response is still a bit shitty and insensitive. Does fit with his “hashtag believe women” public image. There are better ways to discuss sensitive topics than patronizing instant messages implying the accuser is delusional.

No. 1205027

>>1204884
I hate this wispy "feminine" voice. Women don't talk like this! He just sounds like an upper class poof as opposed to Contra's yasss slay drag queen voice. It's just gay

No. 1205035

>>1204884
This is worse than Contra's video on him isn't it?

No. 1205061

>>1205035
I’ll let you know if I ever get through it. I keep trying but he’s just so skin-crawlingly creepy. The phony voice, the exaggeratedly “feminine” mannerisms and postures, the crazy eyes and Buffalo Bill facial expressions. He’s just so viscerally offputting.

No. 1205087

>>1205027
insult to gay men it's AGP for both of them. PT British flavor and contra… whatever.

No. 1205091

>>1205035
It's not worse, in some ways it's better because it's far less theatrical and easier to digest than Contra's. He addresses JP's magical way of thinking without mocking him too much or sexually harassing him which I think gives it a bit more weight. It's good to put videos out there critical of that clown that address his arguments instead of going too wacky with it imo. PT is still a loser but the video was ok if you can ignore the TRA shit he throws in there.

No. 1205128

>>1205091
>far less theatrical
It’s cringe-inducingly theatrical. There are costumes and characters and he’s doing voices.

No. 1205136

>>1204975
I agree with you in the sense that that conversation truly reveals that even the best most feminist of men will always put his male friends over the female ones.
But how was the dude violating consent? They were on a date, he said creepy things, she said no and they broke it off? Isnt that textbook "respecting consent"? Man this dating thing is hard lol

No. 1205164

>>1205128
Did i miss something or was the storyline with the smoking and lover/brother/what even? poorly executed and didn’t really make sense? I think they made a dew interesting points on JP but the storyline-elements left me really confused.

Are they trying to make a joke that even tho they are not “technically” calling JP a bigot they indirectly are?

No. 1205170

>>1205136
you sound like a scrote.

No. 1205177

>>1205136
They weren’t even on a date. She’s accusing the dude of being creepy before the date. Like she agreed to go on a date with him and then he started saying gross sexual things about what they were going to do on the date, including “get you so drunk you can’t say no to me.” When she expressed discomfort with this, the perv called the date off.
So, yes, he didn’t technically do anything to her. That being said, he’s clearly a creep.
My point isn’t so much that Harry should have canceled the guy. It’s more that his response was so lame. “You’re remembering wrong and also this is making me feel soooooo bad!” is a lame response. Maybe if he had some balls he could have actually engaged with her on the topic.
If someone came to me with a story like that, I wouldn’t just be like “you’re wrong and making me sad.” I would thank them for bringing attention to the fact that my friend apparently had a darker side. I’d assure them that I’d be keeping a closer eye out for anything weird with that friend. I might point out that the friend did in fact cancel the date when she expressed discomfort with what he said he wanted to do on the date, but I’d also be reassuring and wholeheartedly agree that what he said was inappropriate.
Harry could have definitely handled it better, especially for a person who thinks of himself as being soooo feminist. But male feminists can botch things very badly (like firing a female employee for coming forward about harassment) while women like Lindsay Ellis get canceled for the tiniest and most mundane things.

No. 1205261

>>1205128
>>1205091
it's definitely still theatrical. it's impossible to take him seriously, but the way he earnestly presents himself in front of the camera and says stuff like "us women" makes me feel like my brain is being broken. contrapoints may be a malignant narcissist but at least in his videos he'll slip in a self-deprecating joke or two that makes him seem a little self-aware of the absurdity of the whole thing. watching PT now is so surreal because it all seems so put on and such an act. it's so uncanny

No. 1205302

>>1205170
Oh no im a woman (a bio one at that!), I just havent dated a lot

No. 1205304

>>1205177
Ah gotcha, i see what you mean

No. 1205513

One time I saw someone on here (or maybe KF or somewhere else) say that in a livestream once Hbomberguy said something about regretting that he put the word “Guy” in his title, because “what if I transition someday?”
I’ve never been able to find this clip because his livestream was like 30+ hours long. But does anyone else remember this?
Does that mean he’ll be next to troon out? No clue why else someone would say that.

No. 1205666

>>1204975
here's the actual FULL GALLERY https://imgur.com/a/LEIid of the convo hbomberguy had with the accuser

i honestly have no idea why you would just post one part of it and then write a long summary. it's not even that hard to find.

that being said, your recollection is still pretty accurate. he made it all about himself and projected his own memory of the conversations he witnessed between these two people, and therefore accused her of lying.

https://archive.is/Zvo7d#selection-151.227-155.334 - hbomber's apology which starts off okay but fails to address anything, doesn't do anything about his creep mod, etc.

https://archive.fo/sGEQx - the accuser's response. she also includes screenshots of his mods defending him, one saying that there's more to the story and another saying that the callout post has a clear agenda to drag him. can't imagine why anyone would be upset with how someone who claims to be a male feminist being a creep apologist.

im glad this is brought up because this is one of the things that breadtube loves to forget about. i have a few male friends who love him but don't understand how bad his behavior was here no matter how i try to explain it to them.

No. 1205721

>>1204884
Nothing about him is feminine at all. at least contrapoints is waifish

No. 1205758

>>1205513
Good god i hope not. He'd look so fucking bad in a wig and skirt, worse than sterling and that's the lowest rate

No. 1205793

>>1205721
Waifish? Contra is a she-hulk.

No. 1205796

>>1205666
Thanks for adding all those screenshots. I just had the one screenshot and was recounting the rest from memory.
He comes off as such a pathetic scrote. He could have easily handled this better but instead he made it all about his feelings. What a pissbaby.

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No. 1206157

>>1204913
Two retards fighting

No. 1206161

>>1205793
He's waifish for a man

No. 1206175

>>1206141
Ok so PT is playing up their shitty Brit accent. I thought I was going insane on that theory.

>>1206157
The bigger issue is that JP knows jack shit about communism. It's clear he has never even read the Communist Manifesto outside of some cliffnote version. Should have had Thomas Sowell or someone else on the right that has actually read the damn thing (and more shit by Marx and other leftists), but of course boring black conservative man doesn't draw the crowds like piggish Slav man with weird ticks and druggie Kermit the frog meme professor.

No. 1206179

>>1206175
tbh trash panda also knows jack shit about communism (or deliberately distorts it like the tenured parasite he is)

No. 1206197

>>1206175
the slav confronting peterson on "cultural marxism" making no fucking sense was the most hilarious thing. What Peterson calls cultural marxism is the most neolib shit ever

No. 1206249

>>1205793
No he isn't lol, he's gangly and thin as fuck

No. 1206263

>>1205666
>666
Fittingly cursed digits

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No. 1206284

>>1204884
i'm starting to watch it right now and, dude, at 0:28 seconds in are those digs at contrapoints?? are the girls FIGHTING? FIGH FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

No. 1206306

>>1206284
are you sure this is the right timestamp?

No. 1206310

>>1206306
yeah yeah, right at the very beginning: PT prefaces the whole thing saying there will be no slander on JP, assumptions on his private life nor "cheap jokes about lobsters". Maybe i'm reading too much into it but i can't be the only one who knew about JP from contrapoint's Lobster Masquerade look lol

No. 1206318

>>1206310
maybe it just means that at this point the lobster jokes have been done and redone. contra's video came out 3 years ago already

No. 1206401

>>1206310
There is some truth to this, in that most videos that come out of the left shitting on JP did do these things. Contra was part of that group so it's at the very least tangential shade.

No. 1206453

I saw someone claiming that ContraPoints had rich parents and quit academia because of a sex scandal involving students or something. Didn't found anything on the rich parents, but I went to find stuff on the sex scandal thing since it's really strange that someone would drop a PhD to work as a Uber driver. There is some circumstantial evidence of him being involved with the Ludlow scandal, but no smoking gun.

From the start the story on why he quit is weird as he claims that he was bored by old gay philosophers, or moved to Baltimore because of a relationship, or wouldn't had job opportunities as a PhD, or because he wanted to work as a fiction writer. Also a detail that often goes unmentioned is that he also worked as a professor for Northwestern University, just before the sexual assault controversy hit.

In the Jesse Signal interview he claimed that he quit Northwestern in the summer of 2015 which was at the same time philosopher Peter Ludlow was being accused of assaulting and harassing students. The controversy started in 2014, intensified mid 2015 and he was fired in November of that year. From this student newspaper it seems there were student protests and there was a larger push to prosecute sexual assault at the University and the philosophy department in particular.

https://issuu.com/dailynu/docs/march_5

Ludlow was facing dismissal around the start of the Summer 2015 and was planning to basically run away to Mexico, which was around the same time Contra quit his PhD program and ran away to Baltimore.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210309121315/https://www.chronicle.com/article/a-professor-a-graduate-student-and-2-careers-derailed/

An interesting bit in there is that Laura Kipnis was another philosopher from Northwestern who wrote several articles defending Ludlow, I think she even wrote a book about it. If you check Kipnis followers on Twitter you can see that ContraPoints actually follows her, which is really interesting.

https://twitter.com/laurakipnis

Also Peter Ludlow was heavily into linguists like Noam Chomsky and anti-war people like Bradley Manning, which are people that Contra also admires.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/R0jXgGeJIKze/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ContraPoints/comments/7z3kto/contras_night_out_with_chelsea_manning/

It's easy to confirm that William Parrott (Hontra) was on the graduate philosophy program for Northwestern at the same time all this was happening, and I think the controversy might have been mentioned in some deleted streams, but I haven't found anything. An interesting detail it that the list includes other students like Chelsea Egbert and Debbie Goldgaber, both of which signed a letter expressing concern about sexual assault, but Parrott is did not signed the letter.

https://criticaltheory.northwestern.edu/people/current-students.html

And apparently there is some dirt on this one stream but I don't have the energy or patience to actually listen to it.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/5Ei8UPJzoxOJ/

No. 1206463

>>1206453
don't know anything about the sex scandal stuff, but i do remember CP saying in an interview that he initially went to music conservatory (a B-list one at that) and then only managed to transfer into Georgetown because his father was a professor/related to faculty

No. 1206627

>>1206453
Contrapoint real name is William Parrot?? That sounds even faker then his new chosen name. Why do people on here call him Nick then?

No. 1206637

>>1206627
middle name is nicholas i think

No. 1206670

>>1206453
Wait why are they still on the alumni? In my department, they basically unperson anyone that failed to complete the program, and from everyone's understanding is that they didn't complete the program.

No. 1206995

>>1206284
It seems less like they’re fighting and more like Olly is desperately trying to get Hontra to give him attention.

No. 1207040

>>1205164
It was a call back to a previous video that uses the arson metaphor to talk about white supremacy or something.

That's why PT does an insufferably smug smile at the start while saying "Smoking is not allowed in the cinema". Weird narcissistic attempt at a leftist dog whistle I guess?

No. 1207106

there's some attempt at cancellation over on tumblr because of the incest thing, and for one I'm on PT side: it's a plot point and putting a content warning for two fictional characters snogging off screen would be really stupid for the overall tone. Unfortunately it doesnt seem there's much traction to the outrage, i guess over the years Olly has become a master at avoiding shitstorms

No. 1207293

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Lindsay just got nominated for a Hugo Award for Best New Writer; let's see if this makes her reactivate her twitter to acknowledge it. Announcement of all noms if anyone's interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYzMl-9T2aQ

No. 1207326

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>>1207040
More likely a reference to an anti smoking PSA that had John waters in it

No. 1207397

>>1207326
Contra is a big fan of John waters, too. I don't know if loving John waters is just an old school queer thing, though.

No. 1207572

>>1207106
>> i guess over the years Olly has become a master at avoiding shitstorms
Well now that he’s trooned out, no one can ever call him on anything ever again.

No. 1207890

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No. 1207923

>>1207890
Egg crack cosplay

No. 1208011

>>1207572
nah, hard disagree.

If anything this will be the real proof if people consider him a woman or not, as women (both cis and trans) get cancelled for the MOST INANE of reasons (ex: Contra for a .30 seconds cameo, Ellis for a fucking cartoon opinion, Teigen for not hiding the fact that she's very rich), while men are basically immune to it unless they fuck very young children as even with teenagers there are people who would quicker put the blame on a horny and impressionable 16 year old than a fully capable grown adult lmao. We'll see!

No. 1208029

>>1208011
Ooh, calling PT a woman and not a-logging chrissy teigan in the same post. Girl, you brave doing that here.

Point taken though. Contrapoints was cancelled a lot post-transition so there has to be something else. Phil Tube just is better at optics? Or maybe the smug self congratulatory attitude has an effect on people's reactions compared to the self deprecating sad alcoholic? I don't really understand why the former gets more people on side than the latter but here we are.

No. 1208077

i'm watching Sarah Z's latest video and it's maddening the way she always has a cup of tea or a glass of juice to drink and never cuts when she drinks, i can't believe none of her videomaking friends havent told her it's unprofessional and weird to subject your viewers to sips and gulps. At this point i'm starting to tinfoil she has a secret fetish donor that gives her money for every time she drinks and gulps liquid?? like those ana skeleton girls have people paying them in secret for each time they struggle with heavy objects.
i swear to god there's a point in the video where there's pouring sound when she's on camera but the sound cuts off when the graphic shows on screen, leading me to believe the pouring sound is added in post???


all of this is leading me to believe i might have autism AND that she definitely has a fetish donor

No. 1208235

>>1208077
my sides anon… sarah z is a little too Pollyanna for me, but strangely enough she's probably the breadtuber (if you consider her a part of it) that i find the most tolerable, especially compared to PT/CP or Lindsay ellis, since she mainly just sticks to whatever the topic at hand is without a lot of gimmicky extra stuff

No. 1208469

>>1208011
scrote personalities tend to have scrote dudebro fanbases which rarely care that much about these things. When you main audience is troons and handmaidens, you reap what you sow.

No. 1208505

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philosophy troon considering a move to the U.S., specifically the east coast

No. 1208551

>>1208505
I didn't think to sceencap, but they (Olly) did write a tweet about a friend telling them they thought he probably was gonna move to NY in the end "because of a girl", but they quickly deleted it. so hung up on contra, still.

No. 1208570

>>1208505
Moving to the USA is such a bougie move for this troon

No. 1208584

>>1208505
can someone tell me whats "Equal rights" and "proper healthcare" he's not getting? Seems like he wants to move to new york/us and he's making it out to be some herioic shit because he was just saying how he was the "most famous person…" and all that "Terf island" shit.
He really thinks he's a victim, when he can afford to leave and go somewhere new. When is he going to be called out?

No. 1208615

>>1208584
You’re exactly right. He will frame likely every single thing he does in his life this way. He’s not moving to NY because he’s a pathetic stalker and attention whore. It’s because he’s Transa Parks!

No. 1208679

>>1208505
funny to hear him go on about access to healthcare when for so many americans it's out of reach and a privilege. anyways shit is eventually going to hit the fan here and probably with much more backlash if more people become aware of the child transition shit.

No. 1208786

>>1208505
>proper healthcare
>usa
come up with a better cover for being an obsessed skinwalking stalker. honestly anons this whole him hounding contra is going to get even more milky I can feel it

No. 1208868

>>1208505
is he really trying to sneakily prepare everyone that the reason he's moving to nyc is because of tranny rights and not conta kek
he just ends up sounding like a privileged pos

No. 1208879

yes, escape terf island to move to a notoriously friendlier place for minorities. New York City. (then again he isnt black, so there's that).
Damn the US are really big, is 3-4 hours by car (NYC - Baltimore) really considered "in the neighbourhood"?

No. 1208893

>>1208505
Retarded British man knows exactly two cities in the United States of America, chooses the one closer to his ex boyfriend. If Contra lived on the west coast, do you think Olly here would've picked Portland? Cost of living isn't an issue for him at all, huh? So much for the starving artist.

No. 1209054

>>1208679
>>1208786
the healthcare thing shows how rich and out of touch he is, someone on KF said this already but most middle or working class Americans would kill for anything like the NHS

No. 1209119

new lindsay ellis video. haven't watched it yet but it gives off the same vibes as contra making a feature length film about their own cancellation

No. 1209140

>>1209119
started watching the video. seems like she's gonna explain all the factors that lead to her getting cancelled, like a medley of video essays.
definitely not watching it past the 5 minute mark.

No. 1209146

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>>1209119
Will listen and report findijgs later but its not looking good.

No. 1209177

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Her twitter’s back up. I don’t know if she lost half her followers from the cancellation or some consequence of deactivating, but it’s down from 315k+. And I’m willing to bet this is also to bask in her Hugo Award nom

No. 1209180

>>1209177
samefag but her “squint” tweet is still up surprisingly. Kek

No. 1209216

>>1209177
Wait what happened with her? I stopped following after all the tranny pandering.

No. 1209222

>>1209216
Scroll up it’s all covered in this thread

No. 1209226

>>1209119
so I'm around the 40 minute mark but it already feels like 2 Hours and her virtue signaling is even worse then I'd thought be

I mean can't she act like a normal person, why does everything she say have to be layered in sarcasm or wokeness, like Jesus Christ just act like a normal person, also kinda shocked she so causally called her own family white trash and claimed they were all covertly racist

No. 1209282

>>1209054
This. Can’t stand this posh cunt.

No. 1209283

>>1209119
What's up with her face? She looks decrepit, and like she's wearing a wig. I hate talking negatively about women's appearances, but the comparison between the two images of her in the thumbnail is so stark. She's not that old, is she?

No. 1209336

>>1209119
I think it take a lot of balls to stand up against “woke scold” Twitter, and also open up about her “rape rap” video and why it was created/published.

I’ve watched a lot of this video and tbh I think you have to be grasping at straws / knowingly fake-moralizing to be offended. And she’s going back online, which is even ballsier, because obviously she’s going to receive backlash for making a response video.

I think it’s kind of funny how breadtubers are often made fun of for being “woke” but then when it comes time to “cancel” someone, both the not-woke-enough crowd and anti-leftists ban together.

Like if anyone on this board said “I think Lindsey ellis is an offensive person” people would be like “what!? If anything she just virtue signals” stop looking to get offended loser”

And you think with this board being primarily female, you could empathize with her citing making light of her own sexual assault as cathartic and be like “oh, literally the only people trying to cancel her were people who wanted her to suffer” because none of those people actually gave a shit about women being raped


I know I’m gonna get accused of being a Stan but I just don’t understand how anyone on lolcow has an invested, heated opinion of her

Sure you don’t like her clarification and wokeness but you can’t at least empathize at all with how bold this is

Sage because drunk ramble

No. 1209353

>>1209336
same, i don't think she's as bad as other ""breadtubers"" and the point about how most of the people mad at her were other ultraliberal white people who are also insecure about being canceled

No. 1209412

>>1209353
It's funny that's the argument she decided to go with when that's what of a lot of anti-sjws have been saying for years. I guess it was better to ignore until you could use it.

No. 1209475

>>1209283
She just looks tired and unhealthy, nothing out of the ordinary.
The video itself was really good though.
I hope more left creators start standing up to the whole moral witch hunt the lefty internet loves to do.

No. 1209529

>>1209336
I just find her personality annoying, it's not that deep.

No. 1209534

>>1209336
>>1209475
Personally I’m being petty because I find it hypocritical how she smugly participated in cancel culture whenever it was happening to someone she didn’t like, ie JKR or Gina Carano, but then suddenly decided to have a nuanced opinion about it the moment it happened to her.

No. 1209540

>>1209534
Did you watch the whole video?
She acknowledges how she has taken part into cancellations before and how it was wrong.
But yeah, while writting the above then I remember her and her bffs takes on JK Rowling and suddenly I feel way less sympathetic lmao.

No. 1209546

>>1204932
Hbomberguy was best friends with Habermann, who was the guy in charge of Metokur. There are still some YouTube videos with both of them streaming together. Apparently their plan was to make let's play to fund their "troll activist" operation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSoOGyfLDqw

No. 1209548

>>1208077
Drinking and eating on video has been a common among Asian streamers for years because it's a creepy parasocial thing. It makes watchers feel like they are their friends, partners, or something.

No. 1209549

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The plot thickens.

https://archive.is/jKrnP

No. 1209552

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No. 1209556

>>1209548
nayrt but you’re really stretching the definition of the word mukbang to an unrecognizable degree if you think someone sitting on their couch and occasionally sipping tea while taking about tumblr drama from 7 years ago is considered that.

No. 1209570

>>1209549
Jesus why do bread creators are always so ready to expose each other: You don't see the right pulling those self destruction moves this often.

No. 1209574

>>1209549
man i'm tired of seeing people claiming their friendship drama is some sort of bigotry. this person deserves to be cancelled more than ellis does for being an attention whoring opportunist kicking someone when they're already down

No. 1209575

>>1209549
So let me get this straight, a guy kissed her spontaneously(which was dumb thing to do) but she made a much dealer of it then it actually was and she asked her friends told her it wasn't that big of a deal she made it somehow about how white privilege

Christ these people need to get out of their own weird woke world

No. 1209577

>>1209540
Interesting, I'm satisfied to hear that, even if I think my previous point still stands. I don't have trouble believing Lindsay could write an interesting dissection of cancel culture (I was a fan of her videos after all), but I think the rest of this year will determine whether or not she's being sincere. If I see her going back to gleefully joining someone's pile-on just because they're a non-leftist I'll know this was all for show.

>>1209574
Honestly, I agree with this. The way a nonzero number of her former friends immediately starting talking shit after she deleted makes it clear she's not a super warm person, but I don't think that's grounds for depriving someone of their audience or income. This thread is also unfortunately vague enough that people will have trouble bringing it up as one of her crimes.

No. 1209589

>>1209552
This example is lame and not really grounds for cancellation, but maybe it would be good if breadtube had to confront its own overwhelming whiteness? They're more than happy to point it out for any other community or grouping, but what makes them any better than anyone on that? They'd rather disavow Breadtube being a thing than say anything interesting about why it might all just be white rich college grads explaining shit to us proles.

No. 1209591

>>1209589
They do point out the community is overwhelmingly white and just virtue signal around the whole topic
Honestly I'm starting to miss the "I don't see race type" people more and more

No. 1209602

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>>1209589
For all his faults, Contra wrote one (1) pretty good argument on this. A lot of it comes from the fact that white left-leaning youtubers are automatically considered "breadtube", while black left-leaning youtubers are sorted into, well, "Black Youtube." That being said, I don't think the conversation ends there. Like you said, it's still worth pointing out that the type of people who enjoy uploading hour-long video essays about politics and pop cultures do tend to be rich college grads, whether they get famous or not.

No. 1209612

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Meanwhile, PT continues to act out his parody of a vapid floaty woman. It's so transparent

No. 1209616

>>1209552
I saw that thread too and while googling the name because i had no fucking clue who they were, i found out she's kyle kalgreen ex-gf and that a few months back they apparently went on a twitter tirade about how lindsay and Todd are "cult members". Anyone have archived versions of those threads?
Im an ex twgtg trash and any type of milk from those has beens bring me joy

No. 1209617

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>>1209616
Oh BrowsHeldHigh I forget about him, its weird he seemed to be the only one at channel awesome that had decent level knowledge about history and philosophy but never got any decent views despite objectively being the smartest person at channel awesome

No. 1209662

>>1209617
Well he was trying smart analysys of obscure arthouse movies in a period of time (2009-2012) where the style was "a cartoon from your childhood made with corporate interests in mind is BAD actually". You could say he was before his time, and, you know, not very entertaining in his style.

Exactly like stated above, with these people i assumed were her friends i was very surprised they were seeming only just waiting for such an occasion to air their dirty laundry against her and her posse. I guess no philosophy degree or past as a popular child actor saves you from being a petty bitch

No. 1209697

>>1209119
Having watched this video, this is why I hate cowtippers. If you just have a bitch about people, you don't have to be measured or even fair, you can make fun of their shitty rape rap, but as soon as it turns into a brigade, the tragic context matters and they're actually the victim.

No. 1209701

>>1209612
It just comes off as toff shit, like normally the butler worries about whether there's enough patreon bucks left to avoid another withdrawal from the family trust.

No. 1209777

>>1209540
thing is, like contra, she never cared to address twitter cancel culture until it hit her hard. And even then, watching the whole video, she still refuses to call it cancel culture because Crowder/right wingers use the term. That's so fucking petty

No. 1209789

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The guy who originally wrote that tweet confirming Lindsay is a "not-nice person" and called Doug Walker kinder/warmer (whose tweets were screenshotted for her video) is being extremely petty right now. Saged because not that major

No. 1209790

>>1209789
God, this woke community is nothing but adults refusing to grow up and turning everything into a teenage drama. If you actually were ~ responsible ~ you would have not wrote anything about it and realised that there's no point in throwing petty drama or interacting around it. What's it gonna give them? Five minutes of fame and egoboost?

Honestly, these passive aggressive tweets are more pathetic than random "We were friends a second ago and I will throw you under the bus" threads. All these people need to get a life instead of spending it witchhunting around.

No. 1209797

>>1209789
honestly people like him are even worse, what a clout chaser. Is the only thing you have to offer your followers petty drama?

I mean, i don't complain, just, what a pathetic excuse of a person

No. 1209798

>>1209790
ahah and i just noticed, not even first hand gossip, it's a friend of a friend who told him what happened! i wouldnt be surprised if he was a kiwi/lolcow regular at this point kek

No. 1209811

>>1209336
>"woke"
>"cancel"

These are very real and damaging cultural issues, no need to put them in scare quotes.

No. 1209819

>>1209789
just like obscurous Lupa, this guy is another one of the channel awesome smaller members that seeths about the success of the bigger names of the site to this day. You can feel the pettiness in all of his tweets. #changethechannel crumbled in pieces because of this behaviour

No. 1209829

>>1209819
>>1209790
I'm glad I made this theaad, Like I expected to be bad but these people are worse then literal teenagers, constant drama, cancellations and woke one-up man ships
Is it really that hard to act like a normal person

No. 1209889

>>1209811
I was literally quoting the video but ok

No. 1209920

>>1209119
Blogpost, but I'm kind of surprised and confused at how much praise this apology video is getting on pretty much every platform, including this one, except for KiwiFarms.

There's zero reason why this video should exist. Lindsay wasn't cancelled. She's not a victim of "cancel culture." There wasn't a witch hunt out to get her until she threw a pissfit and deleted her Twitter account to hide instead of handling criticism like a grown woman. A handful of small Asian artists were slightly disappointed with her for comparing a kids movie to another franchise because both pieces of media drew inspiration from Asian cultures. She easily could've stayed on the platform and written a short, sweet, and genuine apology for her Tweet in her notes app on her phone. If she really wanted to win back the good graces of the 2-5 people who were slightly upset with her, she could've donated a few dollars to a charity that helps underprivileged Asian communities and taken a few weeks of absence from social media. Everyone would've forgotten about the entire thing within the four weeks that it took her to draft, edit, and publish this video.

This is objectively a really poor way to handle an extremely minor crisis situation from a PR standpoint. Everything about this video's execution would've ended the career of any "mainstream" YouTuber and it will come back to bite her when Breadtube inevitably falls apart due to other controversies. The video is long enough to be monetized and bring in a fuckton of cash. It's complete with background music, annoying editing techniques, and distracting visuals. The disheveled alcoholic character she's playing is a pitiful attempt at garnering sympathy from her viewer base. People ragged on David Dobrik for having his Nickelodeon awards in the background of his first shitty apology video, but for some reason, Lindsay can get away with explicitly bragging about getting a book on the NYT bestseller list with zero scrutiny (not comparing their actions here, just their apology videos). Somehow she is both a "nobody" YouTuber with the 21,000th greatest amount of subscribers with racist Tennessee hicks as parents, while simultaneously being privileged enough to attend some of the most prestigious liberal arts schools in the country and have a net worth of $1.2 million. She's able to brush off a joke about autism and wearing a niqab for comedic affect during Autism Acceptance Month and Ramadan. She spends the first half hour of her video condescendingly explaining how social media works to her extremely online fanbase as if they're Amish farmers.

She hasn't been cancelled yet, but this video will inevitably give people more reasons to go after her when she spergs out again. This weird theatrical, melodramatic bullshit is only really accepted by her pseudointellectual orbiters. She really needs to hire a publicist.

No. 1209928

>>1209920
Anon-chan, honestly…
> There wasn't a witch hunt out to get her
there was, lol! I kept seeing people being butthurt over her on Twitter, throwing meltdowns here and there, along with mass dislikes and shit. It all looked like a typical 'DIS PERSON BAD!! IVE BEEN TELLING YOU THAT FOR YEARS' situation on Twitter. There were lots of people who were having a meltdown over how bad Elis is kek

No. 1209971

>>1209920
She doesn't even say it's an apology video though, she admits fault for some old shit, but she explicitly says she's not apologizing to all the busybodies that thought her tweet was offensive in the first place.

No. 1210010

>>1209920
Whatever libtard. She was targeted by more than "2-5 people", I'm sure they blew up her mentions with misogynist shit, former friends are crawling out of the woodwork to call her racist and an advocate for assault, and for what? A pretty dumb tweet that is only racist if you tilt your head sideways enough. I'm tired of faggots like you thinking this behavior is in any way justified against someone doing nothing but making a shit hot take. Whatever happened to just unfollowing and ignoring someone? You just sound like a weeb dumbass who agrees that she should be vilified for not asslicking muh precious western media inspired by asian culture

No. 1210025

sage for OT but as bad as the Dirtbag Left/Red Scare community is, they've shown to be smarter then most of breadtube audience

I mean they don't care if their creators said anything "problematic", I have more respect for them after this fiasco

No. 1210040

>>1174670
from the editing to being a tranny his videos read exactly like contras now its so weird

No. 1210052

>>1178196
did you know that you can find your own persoanl deeper meaning in media, despite what the writers say at all? crazy right. dumbass lol

No. 1210053

>>1180378
nothing but straight up tinfoil conspiracy theories lol. people that think that need to stop watching so many movies

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No. 1210147

>>1209549

the plot is fine. this is nothing. i didnt like linsdays video but this fucking "expose" is over literally nothing

>"…Someone else in our friend group kissing me without my consent"

>"they slutshamed me"
>"i tried to explain that both the kiss and being told what to tweet made me uncomfortable because it was a group of white people"
>"the nonconsensual kiss"

so,
>this bitch decides to hang out with white people
>then gets mad that at them for being white
>doesnt realize that if she had black friends instead they would have also have told her it wasnt that big of a deal. someone kissed her without asking "can i kiss you?" who gives a fuck.
>she paints this as the worst sexual assault ever. but its totally possible the guy just misread the situation. maybe it was forceful and he had always been creepy to her, yeah that wold be a problem, but she didnt say this was the case. so, it was just two friends and one not reading the room.
>she doesnt mention something that would make it matter: like that the friend was creepy and always made advances on her without consent.
>she said this happened one single time. the friend didnt keep harassing her. there wasnt any pattern of behavior. this guy just kissed her one time because he was stupid and shes acting like her friends slut shamed her for being raped or some shit
>"How dare they not treat me like a fucking survivor over petty friend group drama?"

who gives a shit. dont hang out with whitetube if youre just going to minimize their thoughts as "white people not respecting my agency". any race would have told her this shit was stupid. what an idiot. the likes on the first tweet too, ugh the woketards probably didnt even read the full thing because i feel most people would realize this is a non issue.

No. 1210174

>>1210147
>>1209549
while the lindsay ellis video had its flaws, i think the point it made about overly-online liberals always having to place moral imperatives or activist language in everything they do is a good point to make. you can want to not be friends with someone because of personal reasons and not because they've committed the sjw faux-pas of the week

No. 1210181

>>1209119
Maaan I really wish she would go back to talking about musicals and stuff, she clearly knows how to make an entertaining video but they've just been all so dull and whiny lately.

I love your stuff Lindsay but christ almighty this one was a slog to get through.

No. 1210232

>>1210181
Agree. I don't know why so many decent film and pop culture video essayists go down the breadtube route. Her stuff was always political but she made it relevant to the topic at hand if it needed to be. This cancellation video is basically Contra with more cringe millennial humor.

No. 1210233

>>1209920
>A handful of small Asian artists were slightly disappointed with her for comparing a kids movie to another franchise because both pieces of media drew inspiration from Asian cultures. If she really wanted to win back the good graces of the 2-5 people who were slightly upset with her, she could've donated a few dollars to a charity that helps underprivileged Asian communities and taken a few weeks of absence from social media.

You describe these couple of artists as being "slightly disappointed" for what sounds like an extremely minor transgression, yet you also say that she should've taken a break, as a creator online, from the internet for a few WEEKS (for upsetting a handful of people?) in order to have avoided any further consequences. How does that make sense? Also, what makes you think that the asian artists are 1) automatically on the right side/correct and 2) deserving of an apology?

No. 1210253

>>1210181
I expect she'll do more of that the longer she's off twitter.

I also don't mind the political element when it's tied to talking about stuff beyond social media.

Fuck, imagine if you could talk about things like gender and race in pop culture without everyone losing their minds in vendettas and crusades.

No. 1210274

I just want Lindsay to get out of breadtube hell but watching her latest video she pointed out that when she was part of the Nostalgia Critic troupe she was influenced to fit in by making edgy racist humor and it really does seem like she tailors herself to fit into whatever male group is popular at a given time. I found her when she was making content around her actual interests and film degree and she was kind of like a breath of fresh air. I hope she realizes after this that leftist YouTube does not love her back and men and men in dresses alike will try to silence women no matter what they do.

Sage for blog/Lindsay Ellis simping

No. 1210410

>>1209612
I have honestly never seen anyone hate women as much as he does.

No. 1210456

>>1210274
> it really does seem like she tailors herself to fit into whatever male group is popular at a given time.
It really does come across as that and it's kind of sad because I do think she's a step above your usual breadtube retards

No. 1211524

>>1210274
>I hope she realizes after this that leftist YouTube does not love her back and men and men in dresses alike will try to silence women no matter what they do.

Cancel culture is driven by women. It's why people with a large female audience are so vulnerable to it.

No. 1211546

>>1209920
agreed, people are so sensitive these days that even the mildest criticsm over them being an idiot makes them screech "STOP CANCELLING ME!!!" like god shut the fuck no one cares you still have a patreon of $100,000/year and are plugged on every recommendation via youtube, cancelled how? because some people don't like you anymore? the entitlement.

No. 1211547

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>>1209119
even the description of the video is funny as fuck condescending. she knows she wasn't cancelled this is just more dramamongering for $$$. pathetic

No. 1211575


No. 1211725

>>1210274
I unironically miss when /pol/ was trying to cancel her for the abortion. God current cancel culture suck ass.

No. 1211944

>>1211547
i mean, that's the whole point of the video: she's not responding to the Cancellation, she's reflecting on being dogpiled over a very minor "infraction" (having an opinion over a cartoon by an american corporation that COULD be interpreted as racially insensitive if you're so used to microaggressions that you perceive them everywhere) and seeing people using the excuse of said infraction to pull out decade old "receipt" to empirically prove that she is a Bad Person.
She even says that she knows she's fine, that she's going to be fine, she's not self pitying at all. But when you have people sending to your publisher or collogues a crude sketch you did in your twenties that was not meant for public consumption in the first place, are you supposed to stay silent and take it because you didnt like fucking Dragon Elsa?
i don't get you people

No. 1212144

>>1211944
What's even worse, Raya was fucking hated by SE Asians for being Mayincatec bullshit, meaning they grouped them all together, and being painfully mediocre. Instead of getting Coco, they got Princess and the Frog but worse. Only white suburb faggots from the West like that shit, oh and furries.

No. 1212152

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i know this is old, but i want to discuss it because its related to lindsays mask off video. she sounded so fucking condescending about everything. and shes a classic SJW that get off on witch hunts. seeing her go into the "cancelling is bad and people should not be cancelled dont follow the mob!!!" shit was weak to me. anyway, i wanted to compare it with how she acted on the Quinton situation

>Quinton follows Lindsay, comments on her videos about how much he admires her

>Lindsay is fine with his simping
>Quinton sees her in some youtube event with filler breadtube girls and takes a picture with all of them
>Because of the interactions online and talking IRL one time Quinton stupidly thought they were friends now
>Quinton goes outside his town and sends messages to all breadtubers including filler ones like Sarah Z
>He sent messages to all his mutuals and none of them wanted to hang out
>The one person that did was Comment Etiquette
>This means he wasnt sending messages only to the breadtube girls, he was sending messages to men and unrelated people to the breadtube world too. Erik is not into that crowd but Quinton contacted him anyways cause they had interacted friendly online, thats it.
>Quinton even said this in a video before the accusations, he invited people to hang cause he thought they were friends. not because of something sexual involved. unless he secretly wanted to comment etiquette
>Sarah shares the screenshots of Quinton trying to hang out and getting ghosted
>Lindsay shares the screenshots of Quinton too
>"THIS IS NOT OKAY!"
>painted Quinton as a creep and me too'd him just cause he invited them to hang out. i dont think they ever liked him at all
>she had no issue causing this witch hunt, didnt even blacked out his profile pic completely in one of the pics
>both of them treated this like they had been sexually assaulted just cause a simp simped too much
>they acted like sharing this petty story was important and brave and that they were so distraught by some rando asking them to hang
>dude didnt send dick pics, didnt act weird when meeting them last time, nothing. he sent embarrassing texts. not sexual texts.
>Lindsay and Sarah cancelled some guy over stupid DMs that were an absolute non issue and didnt need to be "exposed"
>now that she got "cancelled" she hates cancelling. but some months back he was fine cancelling Quinton because of this petty shit that she exaggerated
>she had no issue at all playing victim just to paint someone as "the scary perverted bad guy"
>even hontra, who was actually assaulted by another youtuber. even hontra didnt give any details on who it was cause hontra truly believes the whole cancelling thing is a stupid witchhunt with no end goal

how convenient of her to change her mindset

No. 1212399

Liana K made some interesting observations about the Lindsay Ellis thing. (even though i think some of her emotional reaction is because she's kinda butthurt about being on the blockchain.lol )

No. 1212408

>>1212152
I don’t know, it doesn’t look like they named him there, how can it be a cancelling? He was being annoying, and dming someone like “you don’t like me so I’m unfollowing” is uncomfortable and unnecessary, it’s obviously trying to bait her into saying she does like him to cheer him up. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with blocking out names and telling people not to be weird like that. They didn’t even call him a pervert or a rapist or anything there, so I’m not sure where you’re getting all that from.

No. 1212467

>>1212152
God I hate these passive aggressive whiny men with no social skills. I wouldn't wanna hang out or be friends with him either. Being pity-pushed into a friendship.
Idk about metoo or being a creep but he's definitely continuously sending messages while ignored and that's pretty uncomfortable.

No. 1212656

>>1212408
Seconded anon. Imagine some dude who you are otherwise casual acquaintances with hitting you up to hang when you don’t really know much about them. And they live in a different area AND you previously have an experience being sexually assaulted. So you don’t really respond and then said guy responds to you with some guilt tripping bullshit that you either have to a. Ignore, fully validating their guilt trip bullshit, or b. Respond to in a positive way to do emotional labor for some dude attempting to guilt trip you and clearly needing reassurance that you don’t want to give him. You could go scorched earth and tell him to fuck off but that would be a disproportionate response that could be used against you.

Maybe quinton or whatever realized later on how awkward it was and how weird of a position he put her in. Also, she might not have known that he hit up a bunch of different people, so from her perspective, it could potentially be more personal.

Sometimes ladies need to be cold to protect themselves. I think if quinton knew or understood that position women are put in, he might have different considerations about how he approached trying to meet up.

Sage because wtf am I doing

No. 1212678

>>1212152
I have zero sympathy for this creep and I can’t imagine why anyone would. He deserves to be publicly shamed.

No. 1212786

>>1212408

i respect what you're saying. you are right, they didnt call him by name. i just think its shitty they wanted to act like survivors over this non issue. this could have been easily dealt with privately but they decided to post it publicly for what? there was no reason to post it to their following other than to get RT and tweets saying how strong they are and how gross this mystery guy is. so naming him or not, they wanted their audience against some guy and painted the situation as something it wasnt. but i see your sentiment.

to me it felt like a witch hunt cause their followers were obviously going to know who they were talking about in two seconds so why make it public. and one of the messages lindsay showed didnt even blur quintons profile pic correctly so everyone immediately could tell it was him but i do think it was accidental. regardless, should have stayed in the drafts in my opinion

No. 1212806

>>1212152
If you humour dudes like that to be polite because they make a big deal about being sad and lonely, you will end up with a stalker who makes you hate your life and have to shut down all your social media. Erik either knows how to handle it or is just naive to how it all starts.

It's not like Lindsay just has had it so good with scrotes she doesn't know how bad they can be - she goes into that in the video. Do you really think subtweeting is such a high penalty it should only be reserved for rape? What witch hunt?

No. 1212810

I'm calling it now that when the euphoria wears off and Phil Tube looks at all the attention Lindsay and Contra get being sad about stuff, PT will copy with a sob story.

No. 1212827

>>1212144
people in america can't reconcile the fact that they're AMERICAN and not whatever culture they're parents or grandparents or gggggparents were from. And i get it that i might suck, it is what it is. I'm in animation twitter and i actually saw the visual artist for the movie being extremely offended by the atla comparison because oh, you're lumping all of asia together then, and i was like BITCH!!! YOU'RE OF CHINESE DESCENT! you're lumping YOURSELF with SE!!!

sorry for sperging but JESUS american are SO. THICK sometimes.

No. 1212829

>>1212408
i personally thought sarah z was more out of line, like, if you have an issue with someone talk to him personally and don't blast it to the internet at large: but lindsay was the real savage there because it corroborated that he was a sad loser (and on the internet there's no greater crime than being lame and cringe) and because they were more interested in the immediate clout of making fun of a dude who was 100% going to see it they didnt make good of a job hiding the profile pic and of course people figured out from 4 pixel total that it was his twitter avatar.

like yeah he's lame, he's an adult guy who shouldn't be clingy to what are strangers, and i honestly like how unlikable lindsay is, you go girl, you have the right to be a standoffish bitch if you want. But they also there was no need to blast him like that, they really cause him a couple of bad days bc of that.

idk maybe i'm a fag but i think they all could stand to be a little more compassionate sometimes, i can what she meant when she said that twitter was enabling her to be a bad person.

No. 1212830

>>1212806
who's erik?

No. 1212843

>>1212152
>shes a classic SJW that get off on witch hunts
anon is right and all responders are utterly retarded cunts. There is absolutely no excuse for shaming someone publicly like that and then whining about cancel culture later. Anyone on social media that has joined in and reveled in the cancelling of people or even all the outright bans/blocking deserve to have it happen to them, and it's just so satisfying when it does.

+ If you don't like someone just ignore them, or better yet get some actual social skills and say thanks but no thanks.

No. 1212859

>>1212843
am I missing something? What did Lindsay do to Quinton that was so bad? Didn't she just post a bunch of screenshots of him being weird? Like boo hoo lmao that's not a "witch hunt"

No. 1212860

>>1212829
it’s fucked up for her to receive that message, ignore it, wait an entire day, and then put him on blast for writing it. it doesn’t matter if she named him or not. she already established that she ignores him and doesn’t reply. it’s a reasonable response, if not a bit whiny, to be like “alright well you don’t reply so i guess we’re not friends. bye.” she looks like a bitch here.

No. 1212870

>>1212859
she has a massive audience and quinton's worst crime (in regards to his relationship with other breadtubers) is being a socially inept tard. for people who cry about mental illness awareness, being kind and cancel culture (although that one's a more recent development), it's simply hypocritical. and you can bet her mindset was "humiliating people is bad and terrible alt-right behavior but if you censor their name it's fine, actually"

No. 1212877

>>1212859
yeah it's not ground for cancellation or witch hunt or whatever, it was just a shitty move by a mean person. More than anyone she should know that internet people can and will deduce who you're vaguing if you provide them with a shred of evidence to obsess over (examples: those who guessed that the channel awesome groomer and rapist was jewwario from a single pixel left from a censored chat log mentioning his behaviour, and even ellis herself re: mara wilson, people guessed it was her being the shitty friend to wilson). I think these are all examples for people using twitter as their own private chat room instead of a public forum where E V E R Y O N E can see your dirty laundry being proudly displayed.
To reiterate, no one in this deserves dogpiling or whatever; it's just an observable fact that she used to gleefully join or even initiate the shaming of cringe if given the chance, and it's a thing she even addresses in her video

No. 1212883

>>1212870
>>1212877
>>1212860
Jesus stop coddling pushy scrotes. It's naive if you think he's just socially inept or poor clueless guy.
She did not name him and I don't doubt this isn't the first time he's being like that - both of those women admitted he's been pushy before and I don't doubt it's a reason why only 1 person replied to him.

No. 1212888

>>1212883
Yeah, you're probably right. It's hard to unlearn the instinct to justify men's dodgy behaviour; at the same time i feel like there must be a middle ground between that and hsving enough human compassion to realize that those "public shaming", as anonymous as you're trying to, they will probably result in a bit of public shaming because that's the nature of having a large following of bored people. Idk idk.

No. 1212889

>>1212883
i don’t want to coddle him, i truly dislike that guy and i’ve dealt with men like him who could be malicious.
what i’m saying is, if they’re gonna expose messages online, they should’ve keep that energy, been upfront and told him to fuck off. some people love to complain endlessly about the annoying tards around them but won’t say shit to their faces. a guy with a garfield and tranny dick obsession is not going to take a hint.

No. 1212892

>>1207890
Awww that's cute, wish you'd cut out or censored PT's head tho

No. 1212894

>>1211944
i dont understand a word about this drama because i don't watch said "cartoons by american corporations" and i think less of people who do and hold such strong opinions about them, including lindsay

No. 1212918

>>1212883
anon it's okay to say a woman was mean once, you know
I understand this is terf central but something you guys really push it. Posting private DMs that can be solved in private with no issues is douche behaviour

No. 1212925

>>1212918
exactly. treating an awkward loser with compassion is not condoning or facilitating rape, jesus fucking christ.

No. 1213868

>>1212894
Cool, thanks for letting us know.

No. 1213874

Why does this thread suddenly have so many morons, it didn't use to.

>>1212830
It's in the post I replied to, Comment Ettiquette, Erik, the guy who agreed to meet up with the stalker bloke who plays up how pathetic and "awkward" he is to lure idiots in.

>>1212925
No one fucking said it facilitated rape. People aren't douchebags nor radfems just for being wiser to bullshit than you. "Solving it in private" is how these losers get to move on to someone else again and again.

No. 1214616

This community is nothing but sickos. Like this guy doesn't realize how deranged the response sounds, and how it implies everyone around Lindsay and him are basically sociopaths.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRpBc0k4WTJ93U3jhT4TGNx0XPKn6R5z82Vwn4ULyDEEQIIQbZbMNn74xflZR3YVmyiqRDCLiY6YWjp/pub

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No. 1214627

>>1214616
Who is this supposedly written by? The author is just like “Lindsay Ellis is my ex” but doesn’t say who it is.

No. 1214628

>>1214627
It's @shadowtodd, todd in the shadows.
Goddamit they're all such children

No. 1214631

>>1214628
The piano guy? I kind of like his videos actually. I forgot they dated.
>>1214616
I can’t believe I just read that entire nothingburger. So there’s Kyle, Jourdain, and Lina… and they all… are mad at each other for whatever reason, and they’re all lobbing random accusations of KISSING at one another? What the fuck? What did I even just read? This all sounds so retarded.

No. 1214642

>>1214628
>>1214631
the dude who kisses jourdain is a mtf ago tranny so I can see why she'd be pissed no one cared, especially le feminist Lindsay. Todd is a spineless coomer who simps for this friend especially so I'm not surprised he came out against her claims this way. funny how it all comes down to males being males, libfems defending that shit, full circle

No. 1214644

>>1214642
kissed*

also fwiw, Todd has defended other mtf troons like Sarah Butts who are self admitted pedophiles. he, ofc, did so on the basis of gamergate rules.

No. 1214650

>>1214642
Okay but Jourdain had been hitting on the troon too? It sounds like these people just had an on and off flirtation that went south, or something.
I don’t really know who all these people are but if friends came to me like “I tried to kiss him and he said no but then he trooned out and wanted to kiss me” I’d probably also be like “uhh… okay?” Like, who the fuck cares? This is stupid interpersonal drama that didn’t involve Lindsay nor Todd directly, and yet people want to cancel either of them for… some reason that is apparently related to this whole incident? This all sounds so retarded.
IMO there is a difference between misreading an ongoing mutual flirtation and trying to kiss, versus forcing a kiss on someone and continuing to kiss them even when they’re clearly not into it and trying to get away. Is anyone even claiming that the latter happened? I’m not usually one to defend a troon but this sounds like it was just an awkward autistic misreading of the situation kiss between flirting friends.

No. 1214656

>>1214650
honestly, yes, even if this recounting seems a bit "she was fine with it at first so no foul play", even in her own thread on the matter it seemed like she was making a big deal out of nothing. Also she's 100% one of those people who collects identities like a deck of yugioh cards to throw at you when you're trying to defend yourself from accusations. I went to her twitter to see if she said something on the matter and sure as day, there was a "well if you hate queer black women just say so!" despite Todd's memo having nothing to do with her race nor queerness

No. 1214667

>>1214618
Seconded I don't know the third of those people

No. 1214668

>>1214667
Oopsie forgot to sage

No. 1214674

>>1214667
you're better off. i like that this thread has become ex-channel awesome besties drama but it's off topic by this point at large, they are breadtube people only if you consider that category left-leaning people, otherwise this is just petty interpersonal drama

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>>1214674
Fair point. Todd is definitely not bread. Merely bread-adjacent.
Let’s get back to posting terrible philosophytroon fan art and tinfoil theories about him being abusive to hontra.

No. 1215216

I think it was the lockdown that really did it in for PT, even though they were always kinda bigheaded, they never seem as detached from reality as say, contra. but I think a mix of irl acting jobs completely drying up and isolation from friends and family for months at a time, with the only socialising being from obsessive fangirls pushed them over the edge into full on narcissism.

some of the comments PT has been making recently are full on nonsense, like calling themselves "the most famous transgender woman in the UK" when there are people like Munro Bergdorf and Juno Dawson who are much better known in the press (due to doing actual activism, no less). that and when they claimed to be recognized whenever they left the house. the PT youtube channel has just over 900k subscribers, even if all of them lived in London (50% probably don't even live in England) and they were all able to recognize PT instantly (not the "You look familiar, did we go to school together? kind of recognition) that would still sound like a bare faced lie. there are actual A-list celebrities who don't get recognized every time they go out.

its the kind of bizarre, self-agrandizing delusion that could only directly follow or precede a mental breakdown

No. 1215567

>>1215216
>Bergdorf
>activism
did you mean selling boohoo clothing and sky subscriptions on instagram?

No. 1215579

>>1215567
More activism than skiwalking another philopher youtuber, at least

No. 1215588

>>1215216
how much of it is genuinely just male behaviour though? he’s always thought he’s hot shit, and i feel like it’s just manifesting in a different way now he’s chosen to get bigheaded about the stupidest thing he could possibly find (i.e. being ‘the most famous and hated trans woman in the UK’).

No. 1215614

>>1215588
ahaha you're right. wanna be a woman so bad? need to start making yourself smaller buddy

No. 1215641

>>1215216
I used to have a bit of respect for Philosophy Tube bc it seemed like she was very responsible about having a lot of fans, talking about “parasocial relationships” and the limitations of being a “youtube celebrity”. It was definitely a lot better than other YouTubers who acted like they didn’t have any responsibility or influence despite having a huge platform, but ngl now it just seems like a case of unchecked narcissim, with PT being so very into the idea of herself as a “public figure” and the “transgender princess of TERF island”. it’s just a massive over estimation of her importance, like she doesn’t seem to get that all the interviews and articles are just a novelty/ flavour of the month thing, not a expression of genuine interest or respect

No. 1215681

Mostly id like shed cover her feet, why the fixation on open toe shoes why

No. 1215817

>>1215641
Honey, it's fine, you can say "he"

No. 1215892

>>1215817
not that anon but contra calls pt "that person" kek

No. 1216093

I would really like if some confirmation of the PT assaulted Contra theory came out; i can't really see LE collabing with PT (he voices a character in the audiobook version of axiom's end and already confirmed he's coming back for the sequel) if he raped one of her best friends. But at the same time i went through her twitter and didnt see any post "celebrating" PT's transition, which is weird for such a vocal supporter of tran's issues. Mmmmh.

No. 1216108

>>1215892
That made me fucking cackle when I saw it.
>>1216093
There is zero proof whatsoever and contra hasn’t made it sound like it was a youtuber who did it. I think they just had a normal boring breakup and that’s why they’re icy. (Well, contra is icy. Olly still seems obsessed.) I would like more milk on their falling out though.

No. 1216155

>>1216093
According to KF the timeline doesn’t match up as they were still doing live streams together and seemed cordial at the time contra started talking about how she could metoo a “prominent leftist figure”. does make you wonder who else it could be since there aren’t that many other men in their circles who haven’t been outed as sexpests already.
However, if PT’s claim that they started transitioning about a year ago is true, that matches up more with the falling out, maybe contra just got scared off when it seemed that she was going to get single white femaled. tbh I don’t think they were ever in a very serious relationship anyway, fuck buddies at most.

No. 1216159

>>1216155
If anything these people are good at trying not to purposely throw shit at the fan, they must know that giving one ounce of validity to the rumors would be ground for pestering/cancellation (i mean, we're gossiping over nothing, just imagine the field trip we could have with even a shred of evidence lol). Even though i dont think they were dating cus long distance never works, i think that: olly was the young fuckboy that gave contra validation as both a woman and a milf; contra lost interest because she realised she likes women + olly is an insufferable prick and called it off; he probably didnt take it very well and the "break up" didnt go super smoothly; contra is fed up, olly is very much still hang up. At this point im not saying he's transitioned for contra but can you imagine? If the Trans Queen of Terf Island turned out to be a stalker man fixated with another trans from a whole another continent? Lol he'd be burned alive by both queers and terfs kek

No. 1216161

>>1216155
>>1216159
it’s true most breadtubers don’t deliberately create drama, but what they are really good at is being able to stir shit without anyone realising that they’re the one holding the spoon. that way they can mobilise their fan base against someone while still being able to claim innocence in the situation. for instance the whole Lindsay Ellis/ Quinton reviews drama, where she left just enough of his icon showing to make it clear that he was the one sending her creepy dms, all the while saying “I censored the identity for a reason, don’t attack anyone on my behalf UwU”. that’s what contra is doing in >>1215892 I think, refusing to refer to PT with female pronouns or even say “Abigail” instead of “that person”. I doubt that PT is the person she’s talking about in regards to MeToo, but I don’t think she would be sending those kind of signals if something serious hadn’t gone down, or if she didn’t believe that PT’s transition was not as genuine as everyone was making out.

No. 1216232

>>1216155
>>1216093
the video where contra first mentions being sexually assaulted is the canceling video from January 2020, and PT is included in that video of being a victim of the mob that contra thinks was out to get her. she mentions that PT was attacked and expected to apologize for even associating with her, and at that point it seems like they're on good terms and still speaking to one another

No. 1216492

>>1216161

I agree. PT is not a prominent leftist, just delusional about their own importance, and probably not the MeToo person. I wonder if it'll be like with Contra, who was gross lusting over Anita Sarkeesian on camera a few years back when still presenting as a dude, but somehow it's a Buck Angel feature that warranted cancelling if you can even call it that. The moment PT starts genuinely getting read as a woman (if that ever happens) they're going to freak out realizing the different moral standards women are supposed to abide to in leftist circles kek.

No. 1216510

Does the socialism done left drama fit here? Not every day that people dox a lefty youtuber and find out that he apparently owns rationalwiki and is the son of a Fortune 500 company that manufactured bombs for the US Gov. I’m not sure about the accuracy of any of it but the twitter meltdown has been fun.

No. 1216646

>>1216510
What happened ?

No. 1216660

>>1216510
i think it might fit here, or more with the leftcows thread, since i know a lot of chapo types had been talking about the socialism done left thing

No. 1216661

>>1216510
Lol I knew rationalwiki was run by some insane grifter. I mean so did everyone else but I'm glad I have that validation now.

No. 1216695

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Ladies, thanks god we God a male to show us how to do feminism properly.
Not sure if this was supposed to be sarcasm but most of the replies are mind-numbing dumb takes from scrotes.

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No. 1216705

>>1216695
The audacity of this fucking bitch. She knows damn well that it's because trans discourse has taken over every-fucking-thing on Earth.

No. 1216707

>>1216695
briefly fantasizes about nik becoming one of those "based" (ugh) radfem ally~ TIMs. I wonder how that would go down. I don't like him at all but I can definitely tell he is self aware to an extent, to the point where I'm not sure he could ignore the TRA takeover and mainstreaming of woke misogyny

No. 1216721

>>1216707
seems like philosophy tubes skinwalking is pushing him in a terfy direction

No. 1216725

>>1216701
Can we get a highlight of Lucy Pumpkin & reply? It's so rich and poisonous.

No. 1216781

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>>1216701
>that was me! but i’m a woman now!
god.

No. 1216792

>>1216695
OT but i would honestly be really interested to see what would happen if contra did a video that was completely on a feminist topic, what would that even look like? what would the reaction be?

"feminism" videos used to be pretty prevalent on breadtube a few years ago, but it was mostly people like shaun and hbomberguy picking the absolute lowest hanging fruits ("manosphere" nuts etc.) instead of actually engaging with feminism in any academic way. it was all reactionary and very easy to make fun of, which i think paradoxically lead to a lot of their fans concluding that feminism wasnt really such a big deal if misogyny could be easily combatted with common sense and mockery, like in those videos. plus like lucy pumpkin said, online leftist discourse is completely dominated by women-hating men and self-hating women (contra could be classed as either depending what you think of her). add to that the fact that feminsim is very vulnerable to being corporatized, so you end up with people's only view of feminism being boss-babe, "more female CEOS!" bullshit. i predict that with the rate BLM/ trans rights is becoming mainstream the same thing may well happen to those movements in a few years too.

No. 1216796

>>1216701
For the Lucy Pumpkin reply. Those scrotes aren't "previously" anti-feminist, they probably all still are but just hide their misogyny behind progressive language. Breadtube and the dirtbag left were mistakes.

No. 1216803

>>1216796
They absolutely hold the same exact ideas, they just stopped identifying as “anti-feminist” and now it’s “anti idpol” or “dirtbag leftist”. Pick one of these breadtubers and compare their twitters from International Men’s Day and from International Women’s Day and you would absolutely see where their priorities lie.

No. 1216814

>>1216781
It's too grim for words

No. 1216823

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No. 1216829

>>1216823
wasn't contrapoints one of those anti feminist men himself? I read that he used to send violent porn to radical feminists

No. 1216832

>>1216829
Yes, he was lol, and during that time frame too.

No. 1217041

>>1214616
Who is Lina Morgan? I know all the other people in this… “drama,” but I can’t figure out her. Google just turns up an older telenovella actress, lol.

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No. 1217226

>>1216832
Not that I don't believe you, but proof? I know Contra scrubbed (or, at least, tried to scrub) most of her pre-transition activity on the internet, but there must be some people who'd gotten it archived.

No. 1217234

>>1217226
i think he mentioned it in an old video, someone archived all of his pretransition stuff on bitchute

No. 1217254

>>1217041
After a bit of googling, his name is Dany Roth, I've never heard of him before.
(And yes,it was weird seeing someone use the name of a very well known comedy actress and showgirl in my home country. She never did telenovelas though haha)

No. 1217288

did anyone hear contra on Virgil Texas and Brianna joy grey’s pod? she sounded like she was doing a bad impression of the red scare girls lol

No. 1217311

>>1217226
the feminist that he sent photoshopped porn of herself to was Terri Strange but I don't have an archive or "proof" or whatever

No. 1217490

Hontrapoints was on Bad Faith Podcast. How long before she actually gets canceled? Brie is a pariah on the Left for consorting with people like Taibbi, Greenwald, and Jimmy Dore.

No. 1217497

>>1217490
Do you think niktyne2 will show up on Red Scare next?

No. 1217499

>>1217490
The real gag would be guesting on Blocked & Reported kek

No. 1217601

>>1217490
She already got canceled like three times. Unlike Lindsay Ellis who gets terminally butthurt if even one (1) twitter user doesn’t like her hontra knows that as long as you have a 50k/month patreon for releasing a video every two months being canceled doesn’t mean shit.

No. 1217846

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>>1217490
No one but the libtards on Majority Report give a fuck about Jimmy Dore, get that shit out of here.

No. 1218489

>>1217846
Known Hontrapoints simp and suspected pedophile Vaush regularly rants to his audience of incels about the evils of Dore and Greenwald and anyone who associates with them, but he wouldn't dare cancel The Hon

No. 1218664

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So one of the new rising stars of breadtube is khadija mbowe, a Canadian black woman

As a black woman I wanted to like her but I have only been disappointed, every video about black women she has to bring up troons, and how their treated just as bad as black women and rejecting troons from feminist spaces enforces white supremacy, she also seems to blame the abuse black men do against black women also on white supremacy, she also speaks way too much authority on issues regarding black American women despite being Canadian and the daughter of middle class Gambian Doctors,

No. 1218667

>>1218664
>pretty privilege
I can't imagine why this woman would argue that being unfuckable is a violations of her rights kek

No. 1218668

>>1218664
So this chick thinks that Monroe was privileged? Compared to her? Bitch has doctors for parents. Monroe was born of an alcoholic single mother and was thrown into foster care, sexually assaulted many times, and made to be a drug addict to sell her image. I mean the fuck?

No. 1218671

>>1218668
Yeah from the video's of her I've watched the issue of class isn't ever brought up

No. 1218672

>>1218664
its funny how all the black women who correlate being a black female to troonery are all unattractive. its almost like theyre treated bad because theyre ugly and more attractive black women dont have the same experience

(inb4 some autistic racebaiter with uncontrolled retardation replies to me)

No. 1218679

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>>1218672
I don't think she's ugly or anything, but if you've watched her videos literally all her sources are just pretentious books and papers written by neo-liberal academics and professors , who over analyze random unrelated movies, often taking scenes out of context to create their dumbass takes
Modern academia is literally this tweet but people take it seriously
and this becomes her only source for the outside world, cause I don't think she's ever been outside her for woke bubble in Canada so she's sheltered

No. 1218684

>>1218664
I find it bizarre how she just doesn't want to talk about how black men fuel into colorism. Especially for a dark skinned lady like her. Jackie Aina, Cydnee Black, Nyma Tang have talked about skin bleaching and colorism for years. Every racial group has a problem in ingaging in in-group classism, hate and machismo

No. 1218701

>>1218684
easy she blames it on white women, she calls out white women more then she does black men

No. 1218710

>>1218684
>>1218701
as is always the case for pick-me’s of colour

No. 1218766

This video was fine till she brought up contrapoints and JK Rowling, they really do never shut up about her huh? Even though men are the ones actually physically attack troons. I’m really hoping she doesn’t go full breadtube as I actually like her anime reviews.

It’s just so annoying to find a channel that I enjoy go all handmaiden for breadtubers.

No. 1218805

>>1218664
Just seems like another shallow video essay channel like tiffanyferg. I don't think she's really Breadtube though.

No. 1218812

>>1218805
her video's get posted on r/breadtube and I think she considers herself part of breadtube

No. 1218822

>>1218766
I freaking hated it when she had to start screaming about how much she cares about trans rights. It was just so over the top, performative and worship-like. Like when a piece doesn't accommodate to the poor endangered troons, it's sacrilegious and just absolutely haram and should not even exist.

>>1218812
oof

No. 1218929

>>1218822
>Like when a piece doesn't accommodate to the poor endangered troons, it's sacrilegious and just absolutely haram and should not even exist.
That’s one of the things I envy about troons, they get all the upsides of being a man while also being treated like a defenseless victim who can do no wrong.

No. 1219016

She's a step away from coming out herself, my money is on diet-trans aka nonbinary

No. 1219065


No. 1219066

>>1218489
Not saying Dore or Glenn are any worse than Vaush, Vaush is probably much worse, but is it possible to milk either one of them compared to Vaush?

No. 1219108

>>1217288
it feels like her vocal fry has gotten a lot worse and after her FFS/early 2019-2020 she sounded like a really effeminate gay man, like every other word was some slang from rupaul's drag race like "hey gorge" or other zoomer speak. i think she came off as more well-spoken and thoughtful in the podcast since on a podcast you don't have to try and distract your audience with visual cues or elaborate costuming and can actually say stuff of substance.

No. 1219113

Is there drama between xanderhal (dont know if that's how it spelled, it's a debate bro kid, very annoying and immature) and vaush? Last i knew them xanderhal idolized vaush and basically wanted to be him and now they're not following each other on twitter

No. 1219133

>>1217499
kek singal is pretty charitable towards contra so he might be open to it. real question is how would our queen katie react, unless they're cowards and make it a jesse only episode.

No. 1219360

>>1219113
I know there was some recent drama with discord logs of the two of them posted, pretty sure people were saying they'd both been creepy and racist or something, but I can't imagine why they'd drop each other for the same shit they themselves were doing. Xanderhal is beyond retarded though, he probably did something that was too stupid for even Vaush to put up with.

No. 1219468

>>1218766
well, i think her biggest flaw is that she's very young and not very well read; it's clear she's just regurgitating lindsay ellis' videos. She shouldnt have to go on a 40 minutes tangent over an argument like "maybe don't actively buy and support media from a PEDOPHILE" but what can you do, weebs will want to die on the worst hills and apparently child porn is one of those

No. 1220177


No. 1220220

>>1220177
Omg that post is hilarious, i cant believe contra is Qanon for breadtube! /S

No. 1220232

>>1216701
>Milo Stewart
She literally just described herself with that tweet.

No. 1220620

>>1220177
When you said
>some autist on kiwifarms
I knew it was going to be that particular user. I wonder why they are so obsessed with contra.

No. 1220829

>>1220620
tale as old as time, parasocial hate is just as strong as parasocial love /s

No. 1221061

>>1220620
i think contra is even aware of that anon. I'm guessing that they must have known CP in real life since they know so much about him (including personal stuff like stuff about his family), or he's just incredibly terminally online

No. 1222188

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Why are men all the same?

No. 1222197

>>1222188
I swear to God how do they miss the point entirely… The first part of that third sentence, i agree, then it's a full on pivot.

No. 1222198

>>1220620
The only thing that makes sense to me is that it's contra himself. People only talk that much about themselves.

No. 1222244

>>1222188
>If you believe that fucking around with ""friends"" is not healthy you are some victorian puritan
Man. Why are breadtubers always proud degenerates

No. 1222256

>>1222197
>>1222244
Come on, this is a stretch. Phil Tube literally trooned out and yet Shaun is pinged for this luke warm take. I mean, being friends with someone you fucked is actually very lesbi-oh wait no Shaun not him too.

No. 1222328

Honestly i agree with him, but i have to admit the "thinking men and women cant be friends is homophobic" angle is a new one

No. 1223063

>>1222198
The crux of the dirtbag left general here. I can believe it. It's either that or some anonymous friend of Contra that is both doing a piss but also creating an enemy for her to lampoon. Nah your theory sounds better.

No. 1223153

>>1222188
>>1222244
We’re pretending this is milky? “You can still be friends with people even if you hook up” is a pretty lukewarm take from a lefty scrote. I hope the PhilosophyTroon/Hontrapoints drama finally blows up soon, because this thread is dry as fuck.
My prediction is that if Hontra starts to seem like he’s going to come forward with whatever it was Olly did that caused their falling out, Olly is going to beat him to the punch by quickly releasing something calling out Hontra first. Bonus points if they (or their fans) somehow manage to drag Lindsay Ellis into their falling out drama despite her not being involved at all.

No. 1223155

sage for absolute retard newfag but why is contrapoints called "hontra"?

No. 1223206

>>1223155
"hon" is a derogatory term for (typically older) trans women, i think it comes from the stereotype of them calling people hon/honey? and "hontra" is just a combo of that and contra

No. 1223862

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>>1174665
Just girly things!

No. 1223871

>>1223862
A metaphor for his womanhood

No. 1223873

>>1223871

fucking KEK anonita here making more interesting analysis than any of the breadfaggots

No. 1223893

>>1223862
My seething hatred for this guy is so big its almost irrational

No. 1223902

>>1223871
It would be if Paris Lees wasn't a troon as well



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