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A Thread to discuss all the hilarious online and IRL afrocentrists and Hoteps
This thread is specifically about afrocentrists, mostly african americans who genuinely believe that black africans were responsible for all human advancements and sciences and that greeks, romans, arabs, moors, native americans and especially Egyptians were all black, basically the black counterparts to Varg's Ilk except imo somehow even more delusional
a common trait among afrocentrists is they often look to Ancient Egypt as the source of all human culture, hence the adoption of the Ancient Egyptian term Hoted and recently many have gained an obsession's with the MCU film black panther and have adopted symbolism and rhetoric from the filmhttps://twitter.com/hotepspostingls
IMPORATANT NOTE - No racebait, no posting normal african americans and no regurgitative comments about "black culture" or other bullshit, go to kiwifarms if your gonna behave like that
Wouldn't OT attract more racebait and then it would get locked immediately
I think its a bit more safer on /snow/
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Its all so tiresome
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Idec about anything they've got to say, I just love their art
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Plenty of Hotep pages saying that those people are either Ainu or Chinese, but they're nothing of the sort.>>1361215
These are Tibetans. These pictures were taken during the British invasion of Tibet.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1317360/Tibet-1903-photographs-secret-kingdom-auctioned-off.html
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Oh I have been wanting a thread like this for a while now.
Time to talk about some of the crazy bs Young Pharaoh is believing in and his scammy Aten Nation projects.
Although he should have a thread of his own.
He thinks he is Ra and a real god and alien on planet Earth
„The most wisest…handsomest…smartest man on Earth“ as he would say
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>>1362207>>1361068>I can't imagine how annoying it is for real Africans who have to deal with hoteps making a pilgrimage and having to accommodate their typical American tourist behaviours
reminds me of another Tariq incident, Tariq and his followers accused Africans who’ve lived under the Mugabe dictatorship as being white worshippers and calling them ungrateful for not appreciating his dictatorship
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some stuff from twitter
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See the problem with some of these posts its hard to tell which ones are shitposts and which ones are genuine
for e.g I'm sure I've unironically seen this retweeted >>1365764
but this looks fake asf >>1365766
Kek. This is highly debatable. I
Nah, they genuinely don’t know that nigger is a slur. They think it’s a normal word to describe western Africans. A big hunk of the country is poor and haven’t went to school, much less kept up with American history and culture.
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There's a lot of weird psychosexual shit that comes out of these groups
I'm laughing so hard. I didn't think there was a black version of white Americans who keeps insisting that Eastern Europeans are disgusted by communist dictatorships because they're greedy.
Tariq is, without a doubt, one of the worst people to spearhead any kind of movement. He is a brash and uneducated man feuled by bitterness and thrives on being a contrarian. He has barely anything of educational value to give his demographic and I hope AA aren't taking him seriously
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nta and I actually agree with you of Egyptians being massive racists but your probably thinking of Libya, they are the one's who do the literal slave trading
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Do melanin supremacists belong here? I remember coming across Melanin: What Makes Black People Black and it was an experience (example attached). It has all those claims how melanin makes you a better human, but reads like a school report made last minute by copying wikipedia articles
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Seems to be inspired by the story of Cimon and Pero. Exact same concept, except whoever's behind that caption failed to mention that the guy is her father lolhttps://theologicalanthropology.com/alphabet-of-love/2013/11/7/roman-love-caritas-romana>>1365879
Yeah, that was actually Libya with the slavery, my mistake
I haven't looked at the ig, just going off the handle. There's people that believe that trauma and struggle are passed down from one generation to the next, so if your great grandmother was a slave then you somehow inherited that trauma through magical genetics and that could explain why you have trouble trusting men today, so you need to forgive the men in your past before you were even alive(?) in order to heal.
They're not trolls they truly believe that horseshit.
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ok, that might be my new favorite thread along with the varg one. attached is an image that's so insane i had to save it.>>1365925
interesting, thank you !
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Ashkenazi jews are actually white (no matter how much it makes the broke whites, aka /pol/tards, seethe), but they like to hide behind religion to pretend they're not when it's inconvenient. And then in Israel, they make life hell for Mizrahi and Ethiopian jews but cry about racism and anti-Semitism in America lol
I don't get why hoteps just ignore Ethiopian jews while they make their kangz stories. US education must be garbage
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So people have been all over this. It's big in hotep circles at the moment. I don't know much about theatre, but basically they have a black actor playing a role as an Egyptian. This has caused two massive arguments:
1) People are clashing over the Egyptian enslavement of jews because it would mean that black people had enslaved white people first and Americans aren't intellectually equipped to have complex arguments
2) apparently Egyptians weren't black. I've clearly bought into hotep propaganda because I thought Egyptians were black as well, but apparently they were more like middle eastern than black
>>1366829>2) apparently Egyptians weren't black. I've clearly bought into hotep propaganda because I thought Egyptians were black as well, but apparently they were more like middle eastern than black
Don't waste your time nonnie
, only Ameritards argue about whether Egyptians were "black" or not. People in antiquity didn't conform to modern racial binaries. Ancient Egyptians, like many Levantine cultures, were quite diverse and had both light skinned and dark skinned individuals. Their cities were global trade hubs ffs, of course all kinds of people lived and traveled there, intermarried etc. But Amerifats of all colors struggle with profound retardation around this topic because their backwards ass country continued practicing slavery for centuries after the rest of the civilized world abandoned it as an outdated barbaric practice. They literally can't help but see the world in black & white due to the shitty racial caste system they inherited. I feel bad for them, but not enough to sit and debate with them online about "was (x) black or white?" all day.
Not that anon, but it's a necessary topic to bring up. Two major points that hoteps push foward are that Egyptians are black and that Egyptians were a completely peaceful culture who fell to the tyranny of slavery by white men and this disrupted their innocence. It's an important part of Egyptian history that they took Jewish slaves because it goes against the hotep narrative entirely (because admitting that Egyptians took slaves, especially white ones, means that they're human like the rest of instead of these spiritual chosen ones of total virtue).
Talking about the relationship between the Jews and the Egyptians in a historical context isn't a sperg out if it's to point out why Hoteps don't actually know what they're talking about>>1366905
Ayrt. I'm western European myself, and even where I am there is an understanding that not all of Africa is black in the way that Americans perceive black people
>no it’s not
The country where 80 percent of its women had FGM performed on them and a good chunk of its population can’t even read? You think Ali is keeping up with US race relations in-between shifts at his 65$-a-month factory job?
You mean the Gulf. Maybe don’t get all your info from Twitter.
>weebs infantilise Japan
Amerifags strike once again. I was born and raised in the ME. Quit thinking through a purely American lens; ME countries don’t have the same history with blacks as the US. There are no racism infographics or BLM. Everyone just hates everyone. Egyptians are racist with everyone, including Saudis and Syrians and Asians, and Saudis are racist with Egyptians and Palestinians, Africans, and Asians; Palestinians and Syrians and the Lebanese are constantly at each other’s throats, and everyone hates Qatar. There is no secret racist conspiracy against Desireé from Chicago. >>1365879
That guy is using formal Arabic. He’s not even Egyptian. Most Egyptians don’t even use formal Arabic, kek.
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Sage for derailing but Ashkenazi jews aren't white. There are some genetic studies on it that show most paternal bloodlines are levantine and only a slightlier bigger percentage of their maternal bloodlines have some eastern european origin (I wonder why that is…). I'm tired of people picking Scarlett Johansson as an example of ''jews are white''. She's half danish and had plastic surgery done, and to me she does look exotic still either way. This is her ashkenazi jewish mother. Do you think her mother looks european? Does Sarah Silverman look european to you too?
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Thing is even those in Aswan and Luxor still look very Egyptian. If you’re not an American, and you put Ahmed Zaki next to Daniel Kaluuya, you’ll instantly know which is the Egyptian.
Pic unrelated but I’ve always found Ruby gorgeous.
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Okay if we’re going to derail we’d better derail with something worthy like picrel.
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ayrt, one side of my family is from Luxor and we’re all fair and green eyed, but we look Egyptian. Which is why it cracks me up when these hoteps want to claim our lineage. I’d love to see some clown on YouTube sperg about how fellow light skinned Copt Rami here not a real Egyptian purely on the basis of his skin tone >>1367199>Egyptians are racist with everyone
And fucking how. Colourism is RIFE amongst different groups in Egypt too
Projecting….what, exactly? Do you know what the word projection means, anon?
Okay, I’m going to expand you brain a little bit: “black” people only exist in the US. Yes, because in Africa you will never, ever find someone who will define themselves as “black” — you use black, or African American, to define yourself against an other, perhaps a default….so why would anyone define themselves when they’re THE default inside their country? No one calls themselves black in Egypt, or Morocco, or Algeria, or Tunisia. People will cal themselves tan, brown, wheat-coloured, caramel, chocolate literally anything but “black” — that’s a Western term informed by Western material conditions, which include race relations. Do you not see how absolutely absurd it is to try import this term and apply it to another place, a place which does not share your local dynamics? How ridiculous the way Americans and Westerns discuss race becomes? How limiting? Because I can tell you, your average farmer from your average village does not think of himself as black, at all. What does he share with a black American? Why would he take offence at being called an American racial slur? He knows his ancestors names, where they lived, and what were they doing at the time. It doesn’t matter if someone calls a Nubian a slave; they were always free. He can not relate to the “black” experience, because he has never had it.
Yes, black people only exist in the US, because no one except the US and some other mentally colonised countries employ this type of thinking regarding race.
This is why i am glad the thread is here and not on lipstick alley.
I really hate going deep into this stuff because it actually makes me depressed and sad.
All this hotep bullshit is so fucking embarrassing and seeing women getting into is even more aggravating. The reality is that other races of people don't give a fuck about black women like that. This ideology is just a way for black men to act like a bunch of babies and blame da white man or black women for their lives being shitty because they can't be bothered to get an education or are still stuck on trying to become a famous rapper. Black women are bringing themselves down being pickmes for men who hate them and murder and abuse them as insane rates. Sorry for ranting.
>>1367300>Okay, I’m going to expand you brain a little bit: “black” people only exist in the US. Yes, because in Africa you will never, ever find someone who will define themselves as “black”
Stopped reading there. I'm half-Eritrean, retard. No one cares about your "Black is only a thing in the US" when we're on the internet, we all know what the word "black" describes, and I'm going to be called a nigger in any language and spat on in any country filled with low IQ backward scrotes, especially ones who worship a pedophile.
You got mad because someone said Egyptians are racist, only to admit that they were racist yourself anyway and then try to center burger politics when no one was even talking about that. Get help, you literally are at war with yourself lol
Yeah, and that's what I was talking about. Literally no one outside the west gives a fuck about identifying if your name is Tyrone Shaniqua McDonald and you live in America. They see dark skin, curly hair and case fucking closed. It's not rocket science. It's a catch-all term at this point. Negro, black, nigger. The fact that that person is accusing me of American mindset when they're the one pushing the irrelevant, very Americentric "black = ADOS" take as universal is retarded. Ironically, I see that the most from hoteps and LSA schizos. Wait til you guys see the LSA members who say "Only African-Americans should be allowed to call themselves black!" as if that will ever work. They don't live in reality
Also>Yes, because in Africa you will never, ever find someone who will define themselves as “black”
This part especially is bullshit. All my African friends and family (especially Ghanaian and Nigerian) call ourselves black when we're not speaking of specific tribes and ethnicities. That's how I know it's a tone-deaf Egyptaboo LARPer and not someone who's actually from Africa lol
>You got mad because someone said Egyptians are racist, only to admit that they were racist yourself anyway and then try to center burger politics when no one was even talking about that. Get help, you literally are at war with yourself lol
I'm not the one seething here. Nor did I say that Egyptians aren't racist; they can be, like every other population in the ME. It's just that they don't specifically target those of a darker skin color. There's no conspiracy. They target everyone, from gingers to Asians to Syrian refugees.
And I've never centered burger politics –however, you do automatically employ them when talking about "blacks" or "niggers", and both are imported terms to your average Nubians – who has been hurt more by the Aswan dam than an American word – whether you like it or not. You're not the main character.
> They see dark skin, curly hair and case fucking closed.
And that's how I can tell that you've never actually set foot in Africa, and if you did I can guarantee you you've never stayed for longer than a month. You can always tell a Nubian apart from an Aswan native apart from a Ghanaian. And they'd only go for one of those, because at least the Upper ones are known for being completely fucking insane (and they wouldn't know what American racial slurs are, anyway).
You're not seething, but you sure are typing multiple-post essays of rage. I literally admit I'm not reading them, and you're still so desperate that you type them anyway and do all this work lol
Egyptians don't like black people. No one cares if you think "black" is a special snowflake term only for your fellow Amerilards. Egyptians are indeed racist. That's a fact. I don't really give a fuck what else you're trying to argue because we've established that this is true, even you have admitted it, and your burger imperialist logic is delusional and irrelevant to the discussion. You honestly sound like a hotep yourself at this point>You've never set foot in Africa
I'm obviously talking about how non-blacks see us, but keep projecting. To even try to argue about this, you're obviously not African, you've probably never spoken to a single African person and you probably believe no African person owns a computer. Did you just Google to learn what an Aswan person is, btw?
I can only speak from experience as a Copt born and bred in Egypt (for reference I’m >>1367319
not the other anon you’re addressing) when I talk about “blackness” not being a concept in North Africa, at least not in the way it is in the west, but I don’t doubt that it’s used as an endonym amongst the African diaspora. Arab Egyptians are especially racist and colourist, no matter where you in Egypt you’ll hear slurs leveraged at Sudanese, Somalis, etc. Copts just hate anyone who is muslim, regardless of skin colour.
>>1367342>I literally admit I'm not reading them
And yet…..you keep reading them, nonita. Keep pretending not to and we might just become more than two retards fighting on the internet.
>>Did you just Google to learn what an Aswan person is, btw?
If we're going to establish a courtship, nonnie
, I'll have to tell you that it's not called an Aswan "person". You can even use computers in the villages there. It's just that the internet connection isn't very good all the time. And all of my ancestors and family are from Africa, and I've lived here for the majority of my life. I don't enjoy the low IQ retards, but one good thing I've learnt is not give a shit about how any other person views me. It's good for your sense of self after all, to keep it immune from external feedback.
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Can we post about Dwight York in this thread? He was infamous in those circles for luring women and children for him to abuse. He was technically a "nuwabian moor", but he rolled around in the same circles.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_York
Dude even built himself a Disneyland compound for his moorish community.
"Perhaps to avoid scrutiny from the international Muslim community, the Nation of Islam, the Nation of Gods and Earths, legal troubles, and the negative history of his group during their New York period, he changed his own name several times, as well as the group's name, and masked different parts of their doctrine. In Georgia, they changed their name to the "United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors."
At York's direction, the community purchased land and built Tama-Re (originally named Kadesh), an Egyptian-themed complex built on 476 acres (1.93 km2) of land near Eatonton, Georgia. It was built over a period of years and completed in 1993.
Tensions with county authorities increased in 1998, when the county sought an injunction against construction and uses that violated zoning. At the same time, the Nuwaubian community increased its leafletting of Eatonton and surrounding areas, charging white officials with racial discrimination and striving to increase opposition to them. Threats mounted and an eviscerated dog carcass was left at the home of the county attorney.
Within Putnam County, the Nuwaubians lost black support, in part by trying to take over the NAACP chapter. But outside, they appealed to activists, claiming to be persecuted in the county. During this period, the group maintained Holy Tabernacle stores "in more than a dozen cities in the U.S., the United Kingdom and Trinidad." And York purchased a $557,000 mansion in Athens, Georgia, about 60 miles away, the base of the University of Georgia.
In July 1999, Time magazine reported on the "40-ft. pyramids, obelisks, gods, goddesses and a giant sphinx," built by York's followers in rural Georgia in an article titled "Space Invaders".
In 2005 federal government officials acquired the property of Tama-Re through asset forfeiture after York was convicted and sentenced to prison for 135 years. He owed money for violating financial laws. After the property was sold, new owners demolished the buildings and monuments. "
This has been the case since the beginning, these beliefs easily become a way for BM to delude and harm BW on a massive scale
Eligio Lee Bishop also known as Nature Boy is modern example of these types, his Hoteps beliefs include believing that polygamy and women being submissive is the true "African way", he has six wives and god knows how many children cause he also believes contraceptives are a white invention
Its necessary because they do shit like >>1366975
constantly. Believe it or not, people can discuss things without it having racist motivations. Hoteps are racist, the reason why it's so milky is because they are hilariously racist
. Part of why hoteps are something to point and laugh at in the first place is because they do incredible mental gymnastics about Jewish people for no other reason than people keep pointing out that Egyptians enslaved them, and the result of that is pure comedy.
necessary because hoteps never stop trying to shit talk Jews. Saying it's not necessary is like making a Neo Nazi general and then not talking about the fact that they're racist
Can u fags quit arguing about whether or not Jews are white. There's diff groups of them anyways you're fucking retarded acting like all Jews are white Jews like Seinfeld them mfs literally dispersed everywhere buddy I know this is insane but there are gasp
BLACK Jews n middle eastern n Hispanic n shit even Asian Joos just shut the fuck up omfg. Fucking retard cracker bitch .
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By that logic you can also argue that romany gypsies and Sami people are both white. Congratulations on your PHD in anthropology from Wikipedia.
I don’t wanna add more to this retarded derail other then stop exporting American slave economics understanding of race based on skin color/facial measurements to other countries/areas of the world, it’s embarrassing burger retardation that you should be ashamed of, not endorsing. By American “whiteness” logic half of northern Indians are European
Yes, Sami people would be documented as white because they're from Europe. Idk why that triggers
you, are you one of those "Finns and Italians aren't white" people? Lol
"Gypsies" are originally from northwestern India, so they probably wouldn't
I'm not even American, but you sure sound like you are. I've only seen Americans get triggered
when anyone points out their retarded flip-flopping about Jews (even though you literally impose your racial BS to the rest of the world and harass people for not posting BLM in their bio). Everyone's seen the "As a white person" screenshots followed by "Dear white people, I'm a Jewish person" from the exact same accounts. It's tiring. Now give this a fucking rest
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This is a joke right? If it isn't, why would you want
your ancestors to be known for raiding and pillaging?
Rewriting history before our eyes. White is caucasian and that includes Europeans, asians and middle easterners as well as North Africans and yes Jewish as well which can easily be looked up. White is more than a skin color, its decoration of ancestory as is African American. Black and white are now politicised in the US and have lost their connection to ancestral history.
Vikings were not a race but a mixture of scandinavians which would include African Smericans that had migrated. Just more role switching done by the media to use the black and white eenotation to create division and that's not racial bias by any means before anyone goes there.
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For reference, this is the kind if hair that they're trying to call kinky. "Kinky" hair is hair with afro-texture, hair like picrel is just defined curls
Omg anon I’m a big fan of the Varg thread too. He’s like a milk machine.
Is there some parallel universe “Black Varg” who lives in a village in Nigeria with his pure African waifu who gave him seven pure black kids??
>>1369983>Is there some parallel universe “Black Varg” who lives in a village in Nigeria with his pure African waifu who gave him seven pure black kids??
Lots, there are literally tens of thousands of them in the american black community, but for a 21 st century example just look at natureboy >>1367375
he literally has six wives
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here's a sami chick from my country. what does she look like?
NTA but I interpreted "inherited trauma" to mean there's a distinct domino effect in how previous generations were treated.
If you were enslaved and abused your whole life, had children who you couldn't properly care for due to the trauma you've endured, then they grow up in poverty, without proper care, then they have kids and so on and so forth, that's generations that have been affected by the same trauma as their ancestor.
Rarely do I see the claim that "generational trauma is a DNA thing"
This claim is valid
though - look up epigenetics
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Some Black Brits had a field day with Cheddar Man. But he was not "black" as in African, this is a misunderstanding, and it turns out his skin probably wasn't that dark anyway. Tho tbf to them, many pop science writers and journalists didn't exactly do much to disabuse them of Afrocentrist interpretations and imo did much to deliberately confuse the issue. They had their own political motivations.
>Look closely, and you will notice that the authors are careful to stipulate that they can’t really infer the pigmentation of ancient peoples, only the alleles ascertained in modern populations. This matters, because naive deployments of polygenic risk score models trained on modern populations projected on ancient ones seem highly suspect. I’m thinking here mostly of the “Cheddar Man is black” meme. It is true that using modern SNP batteries Mesolithic Europeans are predicted to be rather dark-skinned, but higher latitude humans tend to be paler, on average, than lower latitude humans.
>Much of the media is focused on the predicted pigmentation of Cheddar Man. That is, dark. Back when the La Brana Western Hunter-Gatherer results came in with the same finding, several population genomics people pointed out that it might not be valid to predict their phenotype based on modern training sets.
Also, that ancient pop was pretty much replaced. Black people are not The Real Brits!! and most Brits aren't descended from them either.
>Ten years ago many people thought that Cheddar Man and his people were the ancestors of most of the people who lived in Britain today. At the same time as this preprint came out, the Bell Beaker paper was officially published. We now know that Britain went through two massive demographic transitions in less than 2,000 years, with on the order of a 90% replacement in a few centuries both times.
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This woman is nuts and I used to have a huge folder of screenshots on her afrocentrist craziness, but I had no where to post them (hadn't discovered lolcow by then) so I deleted it. I regret this as her original twitter account was 100x worse and funnier. She used to post every day, literally all day. She made Roslyn look like a technophobe. Many of her battiest youtube videos are gone too, what remains is mostly mayo ranting type stuff, but there's still some funny history content if you look for it. And stuff like picrel.https://twitter.com/oneblackbritis5https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNWKZFVottskwBKb8HZJP6Q/videoshttps://blackjunction.tv/@OneBlackBritishWomansVoice1
>>1374268>It is true that using modern SNP batteries Mesolithic Europeans are predicted to be rather dark-skinned, but higher latitude humans tend to be paler, on average, than lower latitude humans
Anyone stopping Cheddar Man to be dark skinned in a paler way than most black people are? He could be brown, there are plenty of mountain people who are brown and brown still qualifies as "dark-skinned". I don't see how your sperg disproves the theory of this cheeseman (i am not anglosaxon who the fuck is this) being dark-skinned, this seems to be the most logical conclusion at the moment, because it is supported by material evidence (DNA) and not just incorrect assumptions (mountain people do not become light-skinned by the virtue of living on hills, just somewhat pale _compared_ to everyone else that live on the flat part of their habitat area and "everyone else" can be coal black for that matter).
I thought this thread was for making fun of African Vargs not just dunking on everything that triggers
some racist anons' "we wuz kaings" detector.
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I told people that these freaks(hoteps etc.) were going to become dangerous sooner than later and here it is.
black men arent goign to fuck you>>1375226
youre aware this isnt a common sentiment among foreign blacks, the only ones who think like this are sjws, hoteps,and tethers who cry about racism but wont stay in their dirt huts and medieval socail structure
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>>1372688>>1373530>They're white people, just shorter and more stocky than the average Nordic person>My moms side of the family is Sami. All of them are blonde and look white
That's because Sami have been mixing with Nordic people for probably at least a hundred years.
Also Europe is a geographical area, just because someone is born in Europe doesn't make them white. Genetics has shown that Sami originated in Siberia. So have Yupik people. Are you gonna tell me Yupiks are white too? Anyway here's an old picture of a Sami man.
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finns tend to look like that there's a reason for fingolia jokes
they're not like inuits deal with it american retard(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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here's another old picture of a sami person or was this one already bred out of saminess
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and you know what do derail more and drive the point home here's old picture of a sami and finnish formula 1 driver mika häkkinen comparision just for the hell of it
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>>1374171>white skinned and redheaded
They'd have a stroke if they saw 100% genetic native north africans who are pale with dark blond or red hair or with blue or green light. How would these people react if you told them that this guy is genetically more African than them? Even though genetics doesn't matter as long as your healthy but the point is that these people care too much. I'm sorry for the old pic but I can't look at Zidane now, he's so… bald.
can we stop talking about sami people please? we are not in the eu thread, i want to dunk to hoteps. There was actual milk above posted about a hotel yung pharoah but everybody only seems to cry when it's white people being victimised and not when they turn against other black people who go against their lunacy, which usually results in death and violence because these people are fucked in the head.
It's almost as if this thread only exists to make white people feel better about themselves when we should be calling out retardation that is harmful primarily to black women in particular who are the least likely to support these people without getting dragged and called a ghetto gagger. I don't see how being called a cracker one time is going to hurt any of you or make you lose opportunities in life. These people are all talk, they will not be trying to conduct any kind of white genocide anytime soon because they don't actually have any smoke for the white people who they claim are "oppressing" them. They would rather blame black women for being bed wenches, gold diggers or want to punish them for having misplaced faith in black men that they are actually capable of being providers when time and time again they have failed to deliver.
There’s literally a Varg Vikernes thread on snow and some people who post on this thread also enjoy posting on that one. The man is Nordic with blue eyes and blonde hair. Ironically, there are the occasional spergs who litter the thread with their unsaged posts, claiming it’s cope by people of color.
The thing is, racism exists in every society and people of any racial background can be racist, and it’s fun to laugh at them.
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There are a lot of them on twitter, this one loves caps.
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i didn't watch all of this, but this person is claiming that olmecs, a native american tribe from pre-columbian mexico, were black because of one statue showing a wide nose and shit. there's other statues of that time, made by olmecs, despicting obviously native features such as high nose bridge, angled face and mongoloid eyes.
also mayans, the descendant of olmecs, were known for raiding and killing other near tribes for nothing, yet these people expect that blacks would have survived at least one day in precolumbus america.
also, this person discloses that there's some dna being done to some corpses, to prove the existence of KANG dna. i think the results were ready and these people obviously had 0% KANG dna.
not even a near extinction race can be free from this narrative.
I remember reading about that recently. It's upsetting that these people are invading other cultures and forcing themselves onto it. All achievements, discoveries, and knowledge is instantly taken away from the natives and given credit to blacks because apparently no one else is capable of doing these.
This is why "BIPOC" is a bullshit term since they rarely give a fuck about indigenous peoples.
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So I found this Hotep comic and I've been trying to figure out for hours now WTF does this even mean ? like can someone please explain
I don't get it
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Ok please remind me what race is this man again? Latina? Caucazoid?
that is vastly different from the hotep movement, that's a whole separate movement called Divestment
see african american relationships are unique in the sense that they are the only group in the entire world where women out earn their male counterparts
black males further have a high incarceration rates, low education, poor income. while bw are the breads winners in the relationship forking in majority of the income to their male parnters, "The ride or die" and "build a man no matter how poor or a fucking loser he is" is beaten into black women at their expanse for the sake of "the community" divestment is as the name suggests about divestment to other races of men, its not about dating white millionaires but men near their financial bracket weather they be black of latino, its not that they would be inherently better its just a relationship would be easier with a man who isn't earning less then 60k a year
How am I trying to make it a “race war” when im agreeing with you retard? All 3 of the men are fucking ugly. Also>stay seated like the slaton sisters
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The attitude towards nonblack women of color of extreme afrocentrists always astounded me
This screenshot is old but nonetheless, seeing it not disputed at all was shocking
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to be fair a lot of latinas (not all) DO act high and mighty around black women. Its obviously black mens fault because they are the ones who usually put down black women first in order to hype up latinas. But latinas who date black men often (not always again) will shit on black women. It happens more than you'd think. It didnt get called out because its a common occurrence. i only know this because i've been around latina women who date black guys and if you get into an argument with one thats the first shit they throw at you. AGAIN NOT ALL DONT YELL AT ME!!
A lot of women who date black men hate black women and assume we are all jealous because they took tyrone from us. Its an ongoing meme. As a black woman myself im actually afraid to make eye contact with blackmanxinsertraceherewoman couple because often times they assume that im looking at them with disgust and jealousy when really im just walking. its hard out here for a pimp
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shes Sudanese, not exactly the same as those dumbass hoteps
offtopic but shes a qt
I guess in that case it makes a little more sense, Sudanese and Nubians have been quite literally fucked over by the Egyptians for over 1500 years now
enslaving them, raping them, castrating them and not really ever stopping, It's a wonder why someone from these regions wouldn't hate egyptians
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a cult leader, afro-centrist "vampire", mass murderer, pedophile and practitioner of incest.
He forced his own daughters (at 8y/o) to commit bare his children. to create an army of pure blooded africn vampires to inherit the earth, when the police finally caught up to him, he killed his entire family
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The guy who started all this WE WUZ KANGZ bullshit was Antenor Firmin.
>Outside Brazil, an energetic protest came from Haiti, a country with an almost 100 percent black population, which, like all African and African-American countries, felt humiliated by the new racist philosophy of racial superiority. Anténor Firmin, an Afro-Haitian, published in Paris, in 1885, therefore only three years after the death of Gobineau, a monumental essay in French, of 650 pages, whose title is a parody of Gobineau's essay: L'Egalite des Races Humaines ("The Equality of the Human Races"). The book highlights the achievements of black culture from ancient Egypt and the Nile Valley countries, Sudan and Ethiopia, to the first "Black Republic" of Haiti, as evidence of the potential of African peoples
>Joseph-Antenor Firmin was a journalist, writer, lawyer and foreign minister under President Hyppolite in the Government of Haiti. A rebel at one time in the history of his country, he was exiled to St. Thomas, in the Virgin Islands, North American territory. In addition to the work in response to Gobineau, he published in 1905 a book of great repercussion on President Roosevelt, of the United States, in relations with the Republic of Haiti, prophesying an American intervention that later actually happened
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Hoteptwt are exhausting themselves trying to think of ways to make WW3 about themselves. Imagine having no empathy. People are being blown apart, children dying, people who never wanted anything to do with violence are going to be forced to kill or be killed, and still some retard in America is going to yay stupid shit like this. The narcissism
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seriously black american men have the most retarded victim
complex in the world
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Metropolitan Museum currently has an exhibition called "The African Origins of Civilization" that pays homage to Cheikh Anta Diop, one of the most notable hotep scholars.
Basically they are straight up endorsing the Black Egypt theory and claiming that white civilization was copied from them. Artworks by white artists are meanwhile all getting labels explaining how racist/colonialist/whatever they are (no such labels for African items, despite them often being connected to wars and subjugation of other tribes).
Hotep shit is now as mainstream and uncontroversial in academia as gender theory is in medicine and if you disagree, you are an ignorant bigot.
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pic related appears in many ancient egyptian ruins
it is called the table of nations
in it the ancient egyptians catalogue their view of the human races
they see themselves as seperate from subsahran africans (black people)
and refer to themselves as 'red people' iirc
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you can find more esily under 'book of gates'
pic related 'the four races of the world'
a Libyan "Themehu"
a Nubian "Nehesu"
an Asiatic "Aamu"
an Egyptian "Reth"
A TAL BUILDING IS A COPY OF A TALL BUILDING
A MOTHER HOLDING A CHILD ON HER LAP IS A COPY OF A MOTHER HOLDING A CHILD ON HER LAP!!!
Imagine being this smoothbrained and making it into adulthood.
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>>1367360>Nation of Islamhttps://youtu.be/Zv9Fn_Gg0hc
The founder of the Nation of Islam was a man who was radicalized by an agent of the Japanese Black Dragon Society. He called himself Allah and went door to door selling pamphlets. After famously teaching his version of Islam for four years he disappeared, leaving everything to Elijah Muhammad, the most famous leader of Nation of Islam and a close friend of Satokata Takahashi.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satokata_Takahashihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Fard_Muhammad
Satokata Takahashi was fingered as the man behind the Pacific Movement of the Eastern World (PMEW), a "1930s North American based pro-Japanese movement of African Americans which promoted the idea that Japan was the champion of all non-white peoples."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Movement_of_the_Eastern_World
His main goal was to convince black people that they would be liberated by the Japanese Empire, while also setting up a criminal organization to get rich (most black dragon society hubs were run like the mafia). They also claim they set up the Universal Negro Improvement Association and African Communities League, which was famously headed by Marcus Garvey.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Negro_Improvement_Association_and_African_Communities_League
Fard, the founder of Nation of Islam (the door to door salesman) was apparently in a group called the Moorish Science Temple of America and many early members were a splinter group from them, more than likely created at the behest of the Japanese. Their core belief was that as African Americans they were the direct descendants of Moors and actually not black at all. They were also black supremacists approached by the Japanese as early as the 20's. The Moorish Temple was particularly influencing due to them being set up during the initial Great Migration, swelling their numbers among the many poorly educated blacks.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorish_Science_Temple_of_America
Fun Fact: Charles Manson possibly learned the concept of "Race War" from these black muslims in prison.https://www.mansonblog.com/2017_06_26_archive.html
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i think why a lot of black american wewuzzing as egypt bc some of them have this particular admixture that they can relate to ancient egypt art (not saying black africa only has one feature tho, they are very diverse continent after all). some black african wewuzz but they mostly care about their tribe/ethnic group since claiming themshelves from egypt will have risk isolated from other tribe and disqualify them from claiming their ancestral land. Land grab and tribal conflict is issue in africa and claiming yourself from egypt is just give xenophobc response from other tribe since you've seen as not origin to that place
I was 'poor white folks'.
Not American, but yeah, seeing this shit posted by a non white person who seems to think whites are all privileged as a non privileged white person… fuck them, they have no idea.
Yeah I get the whole racism thing in America, is not the whole world, though they expect worldwide 'support' and understanding, BLM etc.
But as a white person having faced discrimination from my own government for being white and not 'brown' (which would have given me the help I needed), I say no matter your country, less privileged and poor need more support and help no matter the colour of your skin.
I am sure that is as true for some black people in America as well as some white…
And talking about 'black' and 'white', life is not black and white, there are grey areas where what that person saying 'all whites don't want us to have anything'…
It isn't ALL whites.
Sage for blogposting
This is true but race still plays a role. A rich black family isn't going to be as respected as a rich white one, even if they have roughly the same amount of money in there bank accounts. The U.S was still made for white people to succeed first and foremost, so while underprivileged white people do have it rough and face things like home and food insecurity, they have less of a negative "living off food stamps" stigma than black people.
But yeah, poor whites and poor black people have a lot more in common than the elites want you to think.
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these are literally just tanned asian dudes
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Hotep adjacent artists have varying degrees of skill but so many of them make the funniest shit
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Funniest shit is when Hoteps actually manga to write books, its always insane amounts of bizzare coping and the most racist shit in the world, like this book here declaring all caucasians(not just white people but brown people as well) as being literally the followers of anti-christ and being in cahoots of some grand conspiracy to oppresses the real Hebrews(black people)
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Found an entire facebook page of hotepery, all the memes are so badly made they seem like jokes but their taking it seriouslyhttps://m.facebook.com/pg/NewBlackWorld/photos/?ref=page_internal&mt_nav=0https://m.facebook.com/NewBlackWorld/?__tn__=%2Cg
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Holy fuck isn't this the black hitler meme guy everyone and their mother was dunking on in 2016?
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I saw this video yesterday by a Hotep woman, that said feminism is a scam because it tells African Women that they are oppressed by African Men & that in our traditional cultures African M*n never held the power to oppress us which is all BS by the way
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I see this "fact" circulate every couple of weeks. What's nuts about it is that the whole point of Medusa is that she was a beautiful woman who was being punished for rape and that her snake hair was a "punishment" that was actually there to protect her from men trying to rape her again. People can interpret mythology whatever way they want, but the idea Medusa having snake hair was just a metaphor for black women just completely falls apart once you do the bare minimum of research. Literally just throwing things at the wall to see what sticks
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I actually thought it was a shitpost at first because what is this audio
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Potato nose >>1522530
This reminds me of Babyalien_on earth drawing
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I am highly offended they are appropriating my culture and they need to educate themselves KEK. Jokes aside I still can't believe they're trying to claim Cleopatra, a severely inbred Greek woman as black. Honestly they can have her because I'd rather not acknowledge this Crusader Kings tier family tree.
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he also believes homosexuality came from white people kek
Men came up with it but won’t do it with their own hands because it’s ‘inappropriate.’
Such evil degeneracy can only be the product of the male mind, women don’t mutilate their own children for fun without extreme outside pressure. You should be burned alive for comparing fgm to circumcision.
>>1641035>Anybody with white skin is white retard
Japanese confirmed for white
>if you're a European with white or slightly tan skin you are white end of story
Tatars confirmed for being white
I've yet to see an actual japanese person with white skin, the ones online don't count they're edited to hell, also note where I said anyone with white skin from EUROPE
is classed as white, also tatars are white, they have Euro features and are tanned at most.
I've been to Japan. The people are very pale. Inb4 "it's makeup" I don't know, maybe. Did you think Japanese people are yellow or something? >>1641099
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>>1641060>I've yet to see an actual japanese person with white skin
I fail to see any distinct enough difference in skin color between Koreans and Europeans or Japanese and Europeans to pretend that diffrencese exist. I have seen them both in person and on photos of for example european-asian couples.
>tatars are white, they have Euro features and are tanned at most.
Only cough cough
"Euro features" you see in Tatar population in Europe is due to the fact that these are descendants of originally purely or almost purely male groups of Tatar warriors that married local females.
You won't see too many "euro features" the closer to Siberia you go. Heck, non Caucasian features became very strong if not dominant even before you reach Ural. But even as far to the west as Lipka tatars you still can meet Tatars with features like slanted eyes clearly giving off noncaucasian Tatar roots.
No one been calling "yellow" assians "yellow skinned" up until some dude came with his 5 colors partition in 18th century. Marco Polo in his chronicle been describing "yellow" Asians as white. This is photo of siberian Tatars in this post >>1641116
Tell me their skin is not white and tell me they don't have clear noncaucasian features.>>1641132>Same for Moldovans/Romanians/Bulgarians. They're Euros but they're def not white
Why are Moldovans and Romanians non white? They are as white as me and I'm from Poland. LOL.
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Moldovans are stock whities
>>1641191>have light brown to medium brown skin
Which is not something non existing among caucasians. It could be seen as far North as central Europe at least.
>do not have white (Euro) features and aren't even ambiguous, it's pretty obviously japanese people are not white, lmao.
No one said they are white(caucasian) They are just white skinned. You are just imagining that someone wrote what was not written. There are differences between caucasians and so called mongoloids, but skin color is not one of them.
Calm down your vagina. Race is just classification of some more loose some not so much physical traits. There are infinite possible sets of races possible to create. Africa is so diverse (much more than Europe) that there is enough features to create multitude of races.
No one here is also claiming that Tatars _should_ look like _this_. It was merely mentioned that Tatars are diverse in features due to their originally mongoloid genesis and intermixing into local population of Caucasian origin in the western isles of their presence. You are just imagining things about someone forcing anything on them how they shall look. Calm your hormones sweetheart.
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Greek–Korean couple. Try to find significant skin color difference. There is none. Why? Similar latitude, similar UV exposure and somewhat similar amount of vitamin D in diet of both populations (if diet of population is rich in vit D they can preserve darker skin color for generations living even in arctica like Inuits whose traditional diet was rich in animal fat that is a source of huge amounts of vitamin D).(nobody cares)
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koreans are mostly siberians mixed with northern chinese. people are kind of forgetting here that koreans come in shit tons of skintones and also tan more heavily than most white people. a lot of these ruddy pale ladies would look brown in summer cuz they're outside all the time. technically japanese and korean people have lower spf than most whites so this is another optical illusion given how easily koreans tan that makes it all confusing. all of this combined with kpop shitfaggotry and native confucian/westernizing self-hatred about skin tones makes people get confused as to what the average korean skintone is in both directions
not talking about greyed out, k-beauty'd, bleached and filtered bullshit here which is something else. you can't judge off of that(nobody cares)
They can't decide whether they were perpetual victims
or every significant person in a history that doesn't belong to them. You weren't Hebrews, you weren't Egyptians, there is nothing wrong with being sub-saharan african just own it.
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You're not wrong this is an Afrocentrist I found shitting on a Filipina defending a model from her country against cultural appropriation claims just because she has dark skin, kinky hair (just like the natives did before Spanish, Chinese and Japanese conquests) and is wearing clean natural style make up. And yes before you ask half the conversation was black people created eyeliner because the Egyptians were black kek.
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he's the one who made that buck breaking film btw, about how white(note he includes Arabs in his definition of white as well) have been raping in black men en-masse for centuries and still do it to this day
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I have watched parts online and read reviews of buck breaking and its something that you have to see to believe, Tariq uses one actual historical example of rape on male black slaves, and then extrapolates that to create a mythology of mass rape of African men. Basically, the argument is this: Whites are “people of ice” and blacks(which includes all dark skinned people) are “people of sun”, and the ice people sought to subvert and dominate the sun people. This is why colonialism, slavery and things like manifest destiny came about, which is really rooted in a desire for raping black people. Yes, the film really says this.
The documentary then dives into the buck breaking in America, which is filled with pictures of it happening like picrel.(note has to be said here about the illustrations, which have been circulating online.1) They are drawn in a kind of cheap looking Deviant Art style 2) there are a lot of them and 3) they, uh, oddly accentuate certain “aspects” in strange ways considering this is an anti-LGBT film. Fetishistic would the right word.)
After the first half which sets the historical foundation of buck breaking, the film moves to the present day with a discussion of current day gender politics, and here the film goes completely off the rails. It’s just disjointed talking heads talking about things in a schizophrenic manner. Here’s some highlights,
>Muslim civilizations were all white and introduced gayness and pederasty into Africa,>A really random bit about a slave owner turning someone into a human crab?>Rap music isn’t popular in Japan, and Asians are the least Homosexual race according to Tariq>Amazing quotes which frequently made me laugh hard: Here’s Judge Joe Brown: “Because we have so few men in the hood it's easy to condition them to negativity. The typical hood rat thug is a lesbian in a man's body. These lesbian hood rats are raised like girls.”>Onions as a food additive was piloted in prisons to cause Homosexuality .
This feels like a shitpost but its real and it just baffle's me
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oh, my god, now i have to watch this. seems as bonkers as Matthew Harris' 800p manifesto, a schizo UCLA TA with a race obsession who was stopped from bombing the uni. here's a rare excerpt where he doesn't say nigger every 3 words. pic from KF and I recommend the thread
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>>1753529>I have watched parts online and read reviews of buck breaking and its something that you have to see to believe, Tariq uses one actual historical example of rape on male black slaves, and then extrapolates that to create a mythology of mass rape of African men.
That sounds a lot like the schizo I came across the other day. They were using a book "The Delectable Negro" by Vincent Woodard to insist that slaves were consumed en masse. As far as I can tell there's very few instances with any substantial evidence in the book for actual cannibalism (although I'm sure it happened on occasion). The book seems to use consumption in a loose, symbolic way to describe the taste men at that time had for African slaves in a commodified sense. The way it was written is intentionally disingenuous to empower people who want to spread the false narrative that cannibalism was normalised among white slave owners and not an act the most depraved of society engaged in. There's so much sketchy rewriting of history taking place the past few years that's given rise to more racial tensions and legitmate appropriation of other cultures.
>Winner of the 2015 LGBT Studies Award presented by the Lambda Literary Foundation
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he makes so many tweets about it, it's a little concerning
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Also seen Afrocentric pages on Instagram claiming to be the real 'Native Americans' and a Pro Native page was claiming that Afrocentric page is trying to erase Native American history by saying they were the first and the worst part of this is that there actually were brilliant black explorers, kings, generals and intellectuals who made significant impacts in and outside the African continent,
But trying to claim that black people invented everything and settled everywhere before everyone else takes away from the actual achievements of black people.
vidrel this afrocentric channel which claims that the native Taiwanese tribes and Polynesians are africans(cause they have dark skin)
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Found this guy who claims to be a Maori, Isrelalite, Moor KEK
we wuz maoris KEK
not the first time i’ve seen hoteps claim being asian. i saw a twitter argument where a woman hotep claimed africans are the original indonesians during that whole “black lesbian in bali” debacle. anyone remember that?
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well here's the thing, there's often one kernel of truth in some hotep claims but its easily disprovable, the original population of most of south east asia were Melanesians(like picrel), who were either wiped out or assimilated by Austronesians thousands of years ago, but the fact is despite their appearance Melanesians aren't black either, their as distant to black americans as a Scandinavians are, they even have genes that allowed mutations that gave some tribes blonde hair and blue eyes
Hell I have a few hotep-adjacent friends and they post memes every St. Patrick’s Day about being the “real” Irish people. I find it ironic and telling that hoteps call themselves pro-black, yet try to claim every ethnic identity EXCEPT regular black people. They also have zero understanding of genetic variation and claim to be the “real” version of every darker-skinned population on earth. And they clearly have no respect for their actual African-American ancestors and see them as tragic pathetic gay rape victims
or whatever, rather than people who survived & overcame difficult circumstances. It’s easier to say “we wuz Irish/Maori/whatever kangz” I guess. The self-loathing is very obvious.
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the Illustrations used for the film are fucking hilarious, cause Tariq commissioned people to make these and then willingly included them, like picrel is not interracial gay cartoon porn or a 4chan shitpost, its an actual scene from the film
Nta but that’s really sad. I’ve looked a bit into African tribes and they seem very interesting with rich histories and cultures. My friend who studies classics and history explained to me that the “people” with ancient Egyptian heritage were likely all killed off by the Greeks(?).
Off topic but aren’t Arabs considered Semitic or Levantine peoples along with the Jews? Jews are extremely genetically unique compared to non-Jewish people so idk why these people without our very distinct genetics from genetic bottlenecking are claiming to be Jewish kek. I also don’t get why hoteps or just Americans in general want everyone to be either white or black with absolutely no in between. It’s so culturally ignorant when you consider the histories of each region and country, take for instance how Asian countries are actually culturally and historically distinct and Asian countries all hate each other, and the same can be said for countries in the Middle East, etc. I feel bad for them but it’s really narcissistic/self-centered.
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This is by far my favourite one though, cause its not even subtly homoerotic, It literally looks like illustrated gay interracial porn, also the way the slave master on the left is drawn sends me into a laughing fit
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Probably because of Ethiopian Jews
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Egyptians were Asian.
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Can clearly see they have slanted eyes and sallow or tan complexions.
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I don't think he's a schitzo, rather he's just terminally online(like he's on twitter every couple of hours) and he's stuck in a perpetuating cycle of self-antagonization
his followers send him examples of a particular black man being gay or feminine and he see's that as proof of a grand plot of black men being feminized and emasculated by the WHITE MAN and examples of black women in relationships with white or non-black men (again he counts arabs and central asians in his definition of white), he posts those examples on his twitter account which gets his followers enraged and then they send him more examples of "bedwenches" and "emasculated black men" and he has followed this routine for for years now
picrel are his usual followers btw
Ok, I mispoke about why they married to brother to sister, but the Greeks did think themselves superior to Egyptians, and held themselves separate from them, despite co-opting parts of their religion and customs. They were the upper class in Ptolemaic Egypt and kept all military, political and economic power to themselves. They only thing native Egyptians were allowed was to continue to be priests and other religious officials and run local institutions. They had to assimilate to Ptolemaic Greek culture to get ahead. So, Ptolemaic Greeks still wouldn't have massacred the Egyptians, they just oppressed them a lot.
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So one of Tariq's peculiarities is the fact he's obesseded with proving that African immigrants (who he calls Non Foundational Black Americans) collaborate with whites and that they have anti-black attitudes that they learned from their colonial masters
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I really hope she doesn't, Egyptians are well known for being racist and harassing women
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there's also mrasheed, he's also a Hotep artist who hates africans and is obesseded with white men having black wives/gfs and thinks native americans are actually Siberians(which he counts as white people)
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does this seem gay enough
What in the Elliott Jamal Shabazz Rodger
Blackcel confirmed, I'm guessing a girl he liked got with a white guy in high school kek
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I don't know those characters are meant to be white or not though, like he draws arabs and native americans as white people as well
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Can someone PLEASE explain this to me!!!
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this woman is claiming that Native Americans are covert white supremacists and in bed together with white people because they don't think that africans are Native Americans
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>>1760117>lmao so? It's just people talking online. It doesn't affect anyone and doesn't matter.
Hoteps literally caused parts of New York to shut down with one of their protestshttps://www.marca.com/en/basketball/nba/brooklyn-nets/2022/11/21/637b616b46163fc69b8b45b7.html
The day a hotep walks into a white church or white grocery store and shoots up the place, is the day you can start talking about how hoteps are a serious racial threat. >>1760255>Pretty sure the out of Africa theory has been debunked.
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why are they all fat? shouldn't you be in shape if you want to be a militant.
nta and ofc not everyone being racist on the internet is a threat but we all know that people would never be like "who cares they're just talking lmao" if that was about black people and coming from any other race, even one that isn't considered a "racial threat">>1760106
there are people from all communities who act as she describes, people rarely appreciate when others suddenly claim a part of their oppression, but how can she come to the conclusion that they are white supremacists lmao at most she could say they are racists themselves.
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appropriating two cultures with one bullet
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There was German author who saw the rise of the Nazis and noted how stereotypically non "aryan" germans were typically the most fanatical Nazis because they knew that they were on the fringe of being considered racially acceptable. Note how the entire high command of the nazi apparatus were men who were mostly dark-haired, brown-eyed and somewhat short by German standards and who personally proved the lunacy of the Aryan "race" as a concept by their mere existence,
I guess the same applies towards Hoteps
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This take pretty much sums it up
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This sums up the majority of people interacting online tbh
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found it, this is who spams the naggers copypasta every few days
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This TikTok about how white people ate black slaves has 35k+ likes and 1500 comments, none of which are even slightly skeptical
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I still don't get what the eve gene is supposed to be
It may have been rare but it almost certainly still happened
And there are many stories of white slave owners becoming fascinated with African magic and voodoo and trying to partake in rituals
It’s definitely possible some of them engaged in black magic practices that involved human blood and flesh
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>>1767572>what's the point in owning slaves to do your manual labour if you're going to be constantly mutilating
NTA, but I don't know. Ask King Leopold why he'd cut the hands off the Congolese people he forced to do labor for him over not reaching work quotas. Children were often mutilated too. People who dehumanize and enslave other people generally do not make sense. It's definitely not off the table for them to do sick shit like cannibalism on top of the general abuse and rape of female slaves, I'm not sure why anyone would want to defend antebellum slavery. Some anons in here are almost as wacky as the subjects of the thread.
Also, the fact that you'd consider the "delicacy" thing "kindness" is kind of creepy. Reposting to spoiler for possible gore/mutilation
i was using the word kind ironically anon, i didn't mean to imply that it was an actual act of kindness not to eat their slaves on the owners part lmao.
anyway i don't really disagree with you here, i just wanted to add into the discussion that cannibalising slaves probably wasn't this widespread ritualistic practice like the book in question claims. acting like it was just feeds into the weird buck breaking-esque mythos that only serves to spread misinformation.
that's different though, Leopold owned the entire fucking Congo, he had almost an endless supply of slave labor, southern slave lords relied on their slaves for income and expenses
ever if your a massive racist who doesn't black slaves as human beings, from purely an economic perspective it would make no sense to reduce your means of income with ritual cannibalism
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This is not gonna end well, like when wingnats go to Norway or Sweden they just get stared at for being wierdos but Egypt is a very dangerous for non-Muslim people, especially women https://www.eventbrite.com/e/black-to-egypt-tickets-547252104777?aff=ebdssbdestsearch
You can’t deny that black women are known for their aggressiveness and bad attitudes. In high school many of them would literally beat on nonblack women for even daring to go out with black men. The fights would be so brutal that the security guards had to step in to protect the nonblack girl and they themselves would end up being beat by 15 year old black girl lol. Many were cruel to whites, latinas, asians and would get to be racist or xenophobic all day long but then would act like a victim
if anything was said back.
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I genuinely can't tell if this is a shitpost or not
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man, i just love racebait in the official racebait;the thread, where you're not supposed to actually
racebait, but you guys' just can't help it! your weird ass inferiority superiority complex and disgustingly retarded obsession with black people is like air at this point, you'll die
without it!!! and where would lolcor even be without our local racist-chans ans self-hate-chans to fuel the ecosystem and keep this chanboard autistic to the gallows(sage your shit)
Sorry you went to a shitty ghetto school but>You can’t deny that black women are known for their aggressiveness and bad attitudes.
Is a shitty generalization on par with "You can't deny that women are known for being emotional and weak."
Jesus Hotep is also another major figure among Afrocentrists, he is a man who claims radical Afrocentrism and how Indigenous people are frauds, north africans are recent foreign europeans
he have his own fucking site https://hotepnation.com/
the projection is off the charts lmao, you can shit on white women in basically any thread on lolcow or anywhere on the internet and you'll never be called out on it which is why it's so common. people didn't get mad about the anon criticizing latinas either. but one comment about black women and suddenly "omg racebait, racism, kill yourself, you're obsessed". grow a thicker skin or something, black people get the least dunked on on lolcow. if anything it's full of anons tripping over themselves to praise WOC
and denigrate whities. maybe avoid that one thread about black cows if it's still too much
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These people are putting their lives on the line for the sake of a LARP, they might actually end up kidnapped or murdered in these countries
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I’m surprised dane calloway hasn’t been brought up in this thread
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>>1774043>claims slavery was taught in reverse and whites were actually enslaved by black americans
how does that work? I know many hoteps bring up the barbary slave trade as a feel to feel about better about themselves and claim how europeans were slaves longer then black people, but how does he connect that to the America's
also his channel is filled AI art
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both are cringe, but you to admit that hotep is belief for someone is far less called out on fears of being labeled racist, like show me one snowtep post that has even quarter as many like and retweets as this post
Ah yes, "extreme and aggressive", as opposed to the very sane reaction of >>1772548
telling anons "kys disgusting retards!1!" because one mentioned that some black girls would pick fights in her school. Also love anons equating poor with trashy when that fits them, like they wouldn't be the type to whine about rich privileged wypipo oppressing the poor in any other discussion lmao
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I really thought this was raceplay fetish art but I looked up the artist and he is a legit afro-centrist and this was made completely unironically https://www.instagram.com/artofmere_/?hl=en
IDK where you live nonny
, but in Burgerland hotep-y beliefs get taught in public schools in progressive states.
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hoteps have found ai nonnies. kek more “the real asians are african” nonsense. this is just so embarrassing…and there are hoteps in the comments believing this picture is real. someone brought up malagasy ppl; they’re a multiracial group that is indeed afro-asian but they aren’t chinese, they’re african/indonesian/malay
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the comments are sending me
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just found this screenshot on twitter. WE WUZ AVATARS!
actually cackled at this one. this logic goes against everything he technically stands for…why would you claim black ppl are an alien race made up by a weird white guy named jimmy cameron…his @ is tykenesis on tiktok
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The hotep who drew that must secretly hate black women you cannot change my mind.>>1778305
We wuz Vikings courtesy of the Jorvik Viking Centre York
David Olusoga a popular British historian from Lagos - pretty much anything he says is disingenuous, is convinced of hidden black history in Britain (most of what he mentions isn't obscured kek) and has written multiple published children's books.
The Black Curriculum: places important black sites in british history - children's book that makes outlandish claims like the beachy head lady (mummy dating back to the Roman period) is sub-Saharan African despite the Crick Institute finding her DNA 100% European. This misrepresentation has spawned the common misconception that Africans have been a big part of Brittan since Roman times, (I've seen plenty of plebbit threads, YouTube comment sections and social media posts espousing this as fact with a disturbing amount of updoots). Another one being that sub-Saharan Africans built Hadrian's wall when there's only evidence of a company of Berbers (north Africans) being in Scotland 130 years later. It also embellishes the lives and achievements of black inventors or outright claims they invented things they didn't. Much like that Steven Universe episode where they sperg about Lewis Latimer (inventor the of the filament) being the real inventor of the lightbulb despite only developing a component of the invention. This stuff is becoming commonly accepted, wouldn't be surprised if in a few years Shakespeare is reportedly African kek.
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can some one translate this for me
I think what he is trying to get at is that he is saddened by the rise in black women getting tired of black men and calling them out and that everyone should just get in the spaceship and be happy idk.>>1778221>>1778973
I like in bongland and I have never seen this, although the exhibit looks retarded. I'm surprised this could be approved in the UK without people raising eyebrows since a lot of actual Africans live there, why not actually teach about something factual?
I'm going to go on a bit of a tangent here, but i always found it annoying how black americans can't just move on the from fact that they are no longer Africans culturally. They have more in common with white westerners imo and have such a distinct and noticeable culture that is so far away from most people on a dispapora. I also heard that a lot of them would bully African children who immigrated to the US, but suddenly when black panther got popular, it was cool. I wonder how many hoteps were like that when they were young.>>1777690
Cuck porn is becoming popular with black men. That, and a lot of black women nowadays no longer give a shit about race loyalty or even only get attention from non-black men. I'm too lazy to retrieve the video, mainly because i don't remember her name so it will be difficult. But there was a tiktoker who made a video about embracing her natural 4c hair and casually made a statement that only white boys hit her up and she said she was ok with it. A deranged black scrote stole her pictures and made fake dating profiles to prove that black men were actually interested at her because he was so triggered
by her video. There are tons of videos like what i have described of black men being angry at black women for dating white men or advertisements depicting this.
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Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim One of the father’s of modern Finland. This is who they got to play him in a film about his life
the Director accused anyone of being against this casting decision as being racist, mind you this is from like 2015
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I have never seen them try to make buddha black before lol but here we are. Also this literally reads like what /pol/ scrotes say and yet it's dead serious
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Its very common for hoteps to claiming anyone with braided hair as being black cause they genuinely believe only black hair can be braided. for e.g picrel shows up a lot in a lot of hotep conspiracy theories to prove the ancient greeks were actually black as well
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Afrocentrism is getting so bad that ordinary Egyptians themselves are taking huge issue with it, Last week there was an article from bbcafrique
In this article, the authors defend the Afrocentrist ideology and blame the Egyptian youth for having suspended the performance of Kevin Hart, the article went as far to attack DR Zahi Hawass, the former Egyptian Minister of State for Antiquities Affairs for starting that "black people" were only ever minorities in Egyptian history https://www.courrierinternational.com/article/stand-up-en-egypte-un-spectacle-de-kevin-hart-annule-sur-fond-de-controverse
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someone please explain what she's trying to say
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She is dragging him for his dear life lmao.
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You look like a woman, no way does a real man act like you, you will never get laid.
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another one by a Hotep artist, the message is that Joseph and Mary were black and Jesus was also black but white people made Jesus white, the artist represents this through a black Mary giving birth to a blonde haired blue eyed baby Jesus, implying she cheated on Joseph
Fuck, these people really don't understand that there are races other than "black and white" do they?>scientific research shows Jesus was likely a brown skinned middle easterner instead of the white blonde we tend to see in the west. You can even see our 3d models>her der if not white must be black
Fucking brilliant amerimutt logic right there
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i've noticed hoteps have this idea that everyone is jealous of them even when it comes to tragic stories like Sara Baartman's (pictured) who was kept on display as a literal freakshow act.
also there's a 50 yr gap between Baartman and the bustle. i think the public had forgotten by then.
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Whoever made that has no knowledge of western fashion history. There is a long tradition of making women's skirts as wide as possible in various shapes. It was so rich women could show off expensive fabric and also to give the wearer some personal space.
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Kek, the facial expressions are funny to me. Anons will focus on the race changing or the shoddy art, but this piece is more layered than you think and gives you insight into the world of the typical hotep failmale. Firstly, the notion that Mary "cheated" on Joseph. Hotep males often see women as whores and are paranoid at the notion of unknowingly raising babies that aren't biologically theirs. In general, they are apprehensive about child rearing and are often absent in the process regardless. Essentially, their fears are primarily projection. Hoteps also hate the fact that black women have started dating interracially at high rates and their attempts to shame them out of it are becoming ineffective. The particular interracial union that makes them seethe the most is black women x white men. Mass media has begun shilling this pair a lot and numerous FAMOUS black men like the washed up comedian godfrey, who doesn't deserve to have his name typed correctly, have made videos protesting this. Tariq Nashit has also expressed distress towards a romantic union between a black woman and a white man being depicted in the first sonic movie. They also can't fathom the idea that the men they deem as on the top of the racial hierarchy can be attracted to women considered to be on the bottom of the racial hierarchy. They think this, all while needing them for their hotep ethnostate as human baby incubators to produce more "pure" black sons. Hoteps also have a habit of shaming black women who date non-black men by calling them bedwenches i.e slave women who were used primarily as sex slaves during the trans-Atlantic slave trade. My autism couldn't be contained
They would force black female slaves to birth as many children as possible
Wouldn’t matter about killing/mutilating one when you had another 8 from that person growing up to become slaves later
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and to no one's surprise's he's now defending a violent domestic abuser
This guy is so exhausting
The reasons that Majors is receiving more backlash than White is because it comes off as a shock. Everyone knows that White is a piece of shit but Majors had a good reputation before this. Also the MCU is much more popular and less niche to the general public than MMA.
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Afrocentrist Historian claiming that all of Europe's advancements(like Universities, Banking systems and Industrialization) come from Moors(i.e black people)
This one is the most easy to disprove cause the Astrolabe was literally invented in Ancient Greece and used throughout the mediterranean and not to mentioned the big fact the fact fact that MOORS WEREN'T BLACK
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Egyptians reacting to this.
Kek how are they gonna reference Palestine as if that was a “successful” outcome when Israel is constantly fighting to be colonizers and innocent people have been killed in the process. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is defined as one of the worlds most enduring conflicts. If they take away someone else’s land to give it to you because they enslaved your ancestors way back then you could probably assume a similar outrage would happen, especially considering that inhabitants who have nothing to do with that will be disadvantaged and pissed off in the process. Whatever, if it does happen it won’t
I hope they give them a territory in the Middle East like in Syria or something. I’m so tired of these people putting out fake propaganda about their origins which is an indirect massive insult to their ancestors actual cultures and tribes in Africa who are extremely interesting to learn about.
This sort of shit likely will keep happening. Americans probably dream of sending their latam refugees to some country they'll invade soon while refusing to stop screwing over their countries and destabilizing them until no normal people can live there anymore.
You see politicians on both sides of the political isle in America fight hard to try and keep Israel in people's good graces after every attack on innocents, they all benefit from that state and won't stop supporting colonization until they're ousted from the government entirely.
And it isn't restricted to "evil whites" like the let likes to claim, Black and white Americans despise anyone not them and with the new "bipoc" acronym literally excluding anyone who isn't black or indigenous (I think the indigenous people were only added because leftists like to occasionally remember to hate Columbus day) they're just getting more and more bold telling the world they're only fighting for themselves and not actually to "end racism", they want to be regular patriotic Americans too. If they cared about everyone there was no reason to swap from "people of colour" to "black and indigenous people of colour" as the new universal "woke" acronym replacement for poc
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>Cleopatra Director Speaks Out: ‘What Bothers You So Much About a Black Cleopatra?’
>I remember as a kid seeing Elizabeth Taylor play Cleopatra. I was captivated, but even then, I felt the image was not right. Was her skin really that white? With this new production, could I find the answers about Cleopatra’s heritage and release her from the stranglehold that Hollywood had placed on her image?
>Cleopatra’s heritage has been attributed at one time or another to the Greeks, the Macedonians and the Persians. The known facts are that her Macedonian Greek family — the Ptolemaic lineage — intermarried with West Asian’s Seleucid dynasty and had been in Egypt for 300 years. Cleopatra was eight generations away from these Ptolemaic ancestors, making the chance of her being white somewhat unlikely. After 300 years, surely, we can safely say Cleopatra was Egyptian. She was no more Greek or Macedonian than Rita Wilson or Jennifer Aniston. Both are one generation from Greece.
>Doing the research, I realized what a political act it would be to see Cleopatra portrayed by a Black actress. For me, the idea that people had gotten it so incredibly wrong before — historically, from Theda Bara to Monica Bellucci, and recently, with Angelina Jolie and Gal Gadot in the running to play her — meant we had to get it even more right. The hunt was on to find the right performer to bring Cleopatra into the 21st century.
>Why shouldn’t Cleopatra be a melanated sister? And why do some people need Cleopatra to be white? Her proximity to whiteness seems to give her value, and for some Egyptians it seems to really matter.
>After much hang-wringing and countless auditions, we found in Adele James an actor who could convey not only Cleopatra’s beauty, but also her strength. What the historians can confirm is that it is more likely that Cleopatra looked like Adele than Elizabeth Taylor ever did.
>As production got nearer, I realized the magnitude and political nature of this job. It was important to get things right, but also to find a way of telling the story with humanism and nuance: The last thing we needed was another Cleopatra divorced from her womanhood and her power only sexualized. The HBO series “Rome” portrayed one of the most intelligent, sophisticated and powerful women in the world as a sleazy, dissipated drug addict, yet Egypt didn’t seem to mind. Where was the outrage then? But portraying her as Black? Well.
>Perhaps, it’s not just that I’ve directed a series that portrays Cleopatra as Black, but that I have asked Egyptians to see themselves as Africans, and they are furious at me for that. I am okay with this.
>While shooting, I became the target of a huge online hate campaign. Egyptians accused me of “blackwashing” and “stealing” their history. Some threatened to ruin my career — which I wanted to tell them was laughable. I was ruining it very well for myself, thank you very much! No amount of reasoning or reminders that Arab invasions had not yet happened in Cleopatra’s age seemed to stem the tide of ridiculous comments. Amir in his bedroom in Cairo wrote to me to earnestly appeal that “Cleopatra was Greek!” Oh, Lawd! Why would that be a good thing to you, Amir? You’re Egyptian.
>So, was Cleopatra Black? We don’t know for sure, but we can be certain she wasn’t white like Elizabeth Taylor. We need to have a conversation with ourselves about our colorism, and the internalized white supremacy that Hollywood has indoctrinated us with.
>Most of all, we need to realize that Cleopatra’s story is less about her than it is about who we are.
>It’s almost as if we don’t realize that misogynoir still has an effect on us today. We need to liberate our imaginations, and boldly create a world in which we can explore our historical figures without fearing the complexity that comes with their depiction. who are today rebelling against a brutal regime. Never before has it been more important to have women leaders: white or Black.
This director is completely out of touch with reality. Apparently she thinks that she knows what's right and those silly Egyptians need to shut up and go along with what she's doing. Clearly she's right, like fuck their national identity.
He never said Iman was supposed to be Cleopatra, though? Besides she's Muslim and was born in Africa, so she's the closest of an African queen. Not mention also the dancers had different shades of color skin.
Still, I would choose Iman over Jada Smith.
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>>1813776>Amir in his bedroom in Cairo wrote to me to earnestly appeal that “Cleopatra was Greek!” Oh, Lawd! Why would that be a good thing to you, Amir? You’re Egyptian.
That was exactly like picrel. What an asshole to tell to an Egyptian to re-learn his own country culture and history.
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Meanwhile, actual ancient Roman painting of Cleopatra:
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>>1813792>"I remember as a kid seeing Elizabeth Taylor play Cleopatra. I was captivated, but even then, I felt the image was not right. Was her skin really that white?"
The director of the 1963 film saw Elizabeth in "A place in the sun" and he knew Elizabeth had Cleopatra's "quintessence of youthful femininity, of womanliness and strength". If you saw her and thought "but she's a white woman trying to act like a Greek queen", then you're a dumbass (not you, nonnie
, but Cleopatra director).
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Why is this shit getting pushed so much in the mainstream?
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Also this looks like its going to really to romanticize the period of Moorish Spain, not realizing that period was awful, Hell there is some historical evidence that suggests Moorish Spain may have played a role in the development of the transatlantic slave trade.
During the medieval period, when Spain was under Muslim rule, the Muslim world was involved in a slave trade that extended from Africa to Asia. Arab traders transported enslaved Africans across the Sahara to North Africa where they were sold to Arab and Berber slave merchants, who then sold them to buyers throughout the Middle East, including Spain. The Islamic slavery system was extensive and involved not just Africans, but also Europeans, Mostly Slavs, and other Christians. Europeans who were captured during battles or who were kidnapped by pirates were also sold into slavery and bought by Muslim slave traders.
the systems of dealing in slaves from the Muslim world influenced Spanish traders when they began to develop the Atlantic slave trade in the 15th century.(sage your derail)
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So, this is really interesting: a new narrative with Hoteps is that they have taken up the white genocide conspiracy theory and are now arguing that it's happening and actually exaggerating it (claiming that white people are actually dying en masse due to lack of melanin) and that Europe, the entire world (including Asia, the Middle East, and Latin America) will be all African by 2050. It's something you'd expect some racist from 4chan to say (it likely came from there), but they're rolling with it.
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samefag, I already posted this in a previous thread but I feel this needs to be stated beforehand that It's also statistically impossible for Europe(and the entire world) to be 80% African by 2050 or ever, as it would require birth-rates to be unchanging for at least five generations, something these morons never acknowledge look at the UK for e.g, Whites are 85% of the UK population - compare that to whites making up only 57% of the US population. People look at London and think "wow, it's become India/Pakistan/Nigeria 2.0!" but the majority of the country is still white.
The numbers just don't check out. Immigration levels have now plummeted after the 2015 migrant crisis surge. And even if every African in the EU has 8 kids each for 2 generations(which is an insane scenario), the children(who are all extremely urban centered) will be assimilated whether their families like it or not and Fertility rates are generally declining globally, MENA regions are as same as Europe was in the 70's and will likely go down further.
Sub-Saharan Africa actually seems to be hitting their ceiling quicker then expected and will probably begin to decline before they fully industrialise.( Southern Nigeria for e.g went from 11.0 kids to 3.8 kids in a generation and will likely decline further)
no it doesn’t, post said groups that aren’t black and
black ppl who do live in egypt. learn to read before accusing someone of being a retard
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Unpopular opinion but Adele looked beautiful as Cleopatra and I didn't really think the outrage this documentary got was warranted as there are literally millions of Egyptians that look like Adele. No one flinched when Gal Gadot, a European Czech actress from Israel (a country which Egypt has been at war with for decades)was announced as Cleopatra but Egyptians had a national tantrum over a Netflix show. And anyone who has been to Egypt can tell you that the average Egyptian looks more like Adele in skin tone and feature than Gal Gadot.
Hoteps are delusional but spare me the outrage.
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I would love to hear Egyptian people’s thoughts on this kek
I did remember seeing some outrage over Gal Gadot but on reddit (or tiktok) and not fb so it was very niche plus Gadot's Cleo wasn't a documentary. The reason the Netflix documentary pissed off every Egyptian with internet access was because of the "I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY TAUGHT YOU IN SCHOOL" and to be fair the hatred for afrocentrists/hotep bros was brewing for a bit in very specific circles. We also get told that we're unrelated to ancient Egyptians because we identify as Arab (the Arab identity is very complex and even diaspora NA just don't get it), the official of the country is The Arab Republic of Egypt (thank you Nasser)
idk how relevant this is but our government has been aggressively pushing our Pharaonic heritage lately, you'd think we have nothing else.
Out of curiosity do the Greeks (or Macedonians) care at all for her? This whole outrage made me feel weird that we attach so much importance to her but tbh the "founder for modern Egypt" isn't Egyptian but Albanian/Ottoman.
I initially enjoyed the backlash, but unfortunately Egyptians are racist/colourist and I have dark skin (it's average for an Egyptian but most upper/North Egyptians/Cairo people are light skinned or "wheat skinned") so the racist poured in quickly. I hated the random attacks on Sudanese and Nubians as well, I really wish they used images of Nubians as how they saw themselves as well not just how Pharaonic Egyptians saw them you can tell they had a little bit too much fun with it. There was a lot of dumbasses going on about how "Egyptians are wheat skinned" while forgetting that Egypt extends beyond Cairo and that most of the administrative power of Ancient Egypt lied in modern day Luxor and Aswan (the 2 governates littered with temples, Giza just has the pyramids) you know where most are "dark skinned Egyptians".
Memphis is Tennessee ma'am.>>1827486
At least she's not saying Topkek like she's some unwashed 4chan user from 2012.(sage your shit)
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>Me trying to find a pic to show how Egyptians painted their skin in difference with other etnias.
>>1826623>Liz Taylor, Angelina Jolie & Monica Bellucci didn’t look like historically accurate versions of Cleopatra either, but it’s suddenly an outrage now?
Liz Taylor's Cleopatra is frequently critqued with the sensibilities of our time dispite it being from a bygone era and Angelina Jolie received lots of backlash from hoteps sperging about how she shouldn't play Cleopatra because she isn't black (you can literally still find articles about it). Regardless the difference being with all three of these examples is that they don't claim to be historically accurate, they're movies.>how interesting
There's nothing interesting or particularly strange about the outrage. It has much more to do with cultural thievery and double standards (presented in a disingenuous doco designed to drum up controversy) than it does with racism.>who cares which glamorous Hollywood actress plays someone who lived thousands of years ago
Obviously the team behind the hotep propaganda flick do otherwise they wouldn't have given us the sperg about her ackshully being a black kween at the start of this alleged "documentary".
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I genuinely thought this was a Joke video at first, but no he's 100% genuine and so were the comments
I wish these people would obsess over being the first in their family to go to college or make over 60k a year instead of dumb shit that doesn't matter.
The self esteem boost from actually accomplishing something important will be way better.
Rap is not some type of indie, underground scene anymore in New York lmao. This type of gatekeeping is so racist. A lot of white Americans have a real appreciation for rap now and at the very least are also fellow Americans. If they're going to be angry at someone, they could be angry at non-Americans, like some actual racist Korean rappers who dislike blacks who rap.
I'm just so tired of these people treating white Americans like they're an alien species and they don't live right alongside them, leading to them naturally picking up parts of their culture.
White people did ruin rap. The white men who ran the record companies, and the white people who bought it, loved gangsta rap and all that bullshit and were responsible for the shift away from non-gangsta rap.
>If they're going to be angry at someone, they could be angry at non-Americans, like some actual racist Korean rappers who dislike blacks who rap.
Do you actually think that liking rap means a white person is not racist?
>, leading to them naturally picking up parts of their culture.
Yeah, they take it, they act like they created it and treat black people like shit for doing it and valorize white people for doing it.
crazy cop mayor of New York whom everybody hates
imagine thinking he has political clout in the state—he’s poison in NYC and in the redneck Trumper upstate they hate him for being black
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I'm sure there were been isolated cases but just like buck breaking they were not even 1/1000th compared to the black women who were raped en-masse and why 40% of African Americans have Y Chromosomes that can be traced back to Western Europe.(Mostly England, Scotland and France)
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While it's easy to make fun of these people and think of them as jokes, it's worth remembering that their beliefs can have dangerous consequences for the people in their lives, particularly women and girls who may be drawn into their cults. They are very open about the fact that they believe monogamy and the age of consent are European inventions, and that the only way to be truly free from European influence is to embrace even more regressive forms of patriarchy.
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kek this guy is just joking but it made me cackle. “great wall of timbuktu” MY SIDES
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2 of these aren't even from Africa.
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Or >educate yourself
I'm sorry but if you're trying to make a point the onus is on you to convince people of that point. Not sure when that concept went out the window kek
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This is just straight up racism and denial of north African history.
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Hotep shit is spreading a lot among UK blacks as well increasingly, even though most are of Caribbean heritage.
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we actually discussed this in the tinfoil thread, in the last few years, there has been a "narrative" being pushed by liberal anthropologists, that Europeans thousands of years ago were all brown and black and so there's absolutely no reason to oppose unchecked immigration. The problem with these narratives is that they are fundamentally nonsensical and will only give more people reason to distrust academia. The first pic, for example, is almost impossible. In a tribal population group that level of phenotypical diversity is all but impossible. Another thing is that while it's true that people were brownish-skinned then, compared to modern European, they were still the same population. They just changed and adapted over time.
Like I understand the intention, but this is going to do more harm than good for the people promoting this
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Pic rel is where blonde haired, blue eyed, pale skinned people that we today know as ‘white’ would have originated from. They likely still had a mostly Asian appearance at that time, they just carried alleles for blonde hair, pale skin and blue eyes. So technically, blonde haired blue eyed europeans are migrants to Europe from Asia.
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there's a statistic out there that says that white people (and south asians) have 2-3% neanderthal dna, whereas sub-saharan africans (along with north africans, west asians, and east asians) have negligible amounts of neanderthal dna, which must be where the thing about white people being interbred with neanderthals comes from. it still wouldn't make them less human though, because neanderthals were humans, just not homo sapiens.
the thing about neanderthal-white-beasts genociding black skinned europeans is obviously complete fiction
Also want to point out that Cheddar mans closest relatives are WHG. WHG people mostly lacked the skin pigmentation genes that are responsible for pale skin. So it’s definitely true that his skin was on the darker side. African tier? Probably not. More likely closer to a Middle Eastern person, or a very dark Italian/Spaniard. >>1907428
WHG people like cheddar man used to be the main population of Europe, they interbred with EHGs, EEFs and WSHs also came along later from the Middle East and Asia and expanded their own populations massively all over Europe.
It’s true that some kind of mass genocide or rape probably occurred unfortunately because even though WHGs lost a lot of their dominance over European territory, Europeans still carry their DNA, so yeah it was probably some kind of brutal event like that which took place over time. More evidence that adds to this is the fact most Europeans Male bloodline is R which is Eurasian steppe DNA. Whereas the European Female bloodlines are mostly from these WHG peoples like cheddar man who were there earlier.
As for the stuff about them being less human or whatever that’s just dumb reactive racism against whites. Everyone in those days was fighting to assert their dominance over certain areas and plenty of the same brutal genocides happened in Africa too among their own tribes and peoples.
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The Neolithic farmers got genocided by the Yamnaya culture which invaded Europe.
Which were from modern Southern Russia(Caucasin Region) and Ukraine, hence why Whites are called Caucasians.
But unlike how the Hoteps claim these people weren't "Black" nor African as we would define them today, rather Eurasian.
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He’s a beauty. Perfect face for old Hollywood movies. I would never expect to see a face like this if I went back in time to the Iron Age.
that image is likely depicting 4 girls from 4 different tribes all across the scandinavia and baltic sea region. they likely never would have met, but the artist is depicting them as if close friends in one to show similarity or unity. showing there's lots of phenotypic diversity in this area where any given tribe could look like any one of them.
tho it's true the same people with darker skin and hair would have lightened over time, there's still would have been a steady state of migration and influx from other regions and ethnicities coming in over the years plus those originally there staying and adapting and mixing. so it's not helpful to describe them as one people who never mixed with other ethnicities until now, nor is it helpful to depict them as white invaders. they were there in neolithic times and they have always mingled with new migrants
This was touched on the tinfoil thread on /ot/. Populations closer to equator have darker skin and populations further from the equator have lighter skin. The reason is UV exposure. Humans need UV light to synthesize vitamin D. Vitamin D is responsible for bone growth, brain development and immune system regulation.
Regardless of where the original population of Europe came from, Europeans have evolved to have lighter skin because it's an advantage in a low UV light environment. Northern Europe has long winters with few day light hours.
I mean when I talked about black brits knowing their origins I was thinking more of people whose families migrated from places like Nigeria and Ghana cause the black people in my life have those backgrounds, and do have rich cultures and histories that are more than just slavery, so idk why you're going off at me like formerly enslaved carribean peoples are the only source of heritage for black brits when it's just not true. but even in the case of black brits whose origins are from nations where the black population were formerly enslaved, they still don't have an explanation for appropriating other people's histories like african americans do, because they know where they came from. a child of jamaican immigrants would still have things to be proud of in their background, for example their rich musical heritage, founding the rastafarian movement, world-renowned cuisine, artworks from ancient times, their history of being a pirate haven in like the 17th century, etc.
whereas african americans on the other hand don't have as long of a history and a lot of their cultural festivities are fairly recent, as in a few decades old. the things in their culture that don't involve slavery are really recent, and all they really know about their ancestors before slavery is that they were kidnapped from somewhere in africa. that's why they latch on to egypt especially hard - it's because it's the only african civilisation that's taught about in american schools, and they want to connect with something from africa that's impressive. if they learned about the benin empire or the ghana empire or other civilisations from west africa where their people actually originate, they would probably claim that instead of clinging to egypt and other places that have nothing to do with them.
I think comparing black brits to african americans is like comparing apples to oranges. black brits have a place they know for sure is their ancestral home that they can learn about, and that they probably already participate in the culture of through their parents or grandparents. african americans don't have that. they just know they came from west africa someplace. their ancestors could have been from one of several different countries with distinct cultures
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This is getting beyond ridiculous, how and why are these Idiots being promoted in mainstream academia and media?
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Tutankhamuns grandfather was literally 50% black. The rest was Eurasian.
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DNA analysis of the mummies was performed. As you can see, the majority of Tut and his family’s DNA was sub Saharan African.
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I never believed he was white, those lips and those nostrils ain’t white lol.
Just because someone is R1B doesn’t make them white. R1B literally comes from Asia, from a lake between Russia and Mongolia.
are the snowteps in this thread right-now? Because no one here is arguing that the ancient Egyptians were more german looking, but that they were similar to modern-day Egyptians.>>1909395
They weren't white or black, they were North Africans who would have looked similar to other people in that region as they are today.
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Color bust of Tut, he’s darker skinned than a lot of AAs.
It's always been obvious to me they were just mixed people, blasians and some other biracial people would share the most resemblance to them IMO.
Didn't "modern day Egyptians" just descend from the people that came in and killed all those living there previously, anyway? Claiming the ancient people as North African always seemed copey to me, they are quite different.
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The Egyptians portrayed other North Africans like Libyans at the time, they’re usually depicted very pale with brown beards, curly hair or wigs, and tattoos.
I agree that they were basically mixed blasians with a bit of Arab and maybe Turkish or southern European.
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I've never seen this data could you please link sources?>>1909403
That's true and they depicted themselves as red skinned people. There's no arguing that they weren't white but I don't think those concepts (white and black) belong in ancient Egypt. Just because they have more melanin than the average snowtep doesn't mean African Americas specifically can lay claim to their heritage. If that were the case Serbian's could lay claim to the English empire on skin colour alone.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Gates
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Also this is the most recent depiction of king tut using modern facial reconstruction techniques. I'll leave it open to interpretation.
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We wuz british n shiet
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We wuz Irish n shiet
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Well what subclade was he? Technically pic rel are r1b too.
>>1910253>I’ve only ever seen white people aggressively mocking and deriding hoteps
And also the entirely of the middle east>The mainstream view (as is reported as ‘fact’ by the DM and other mainstream rags) is that Tutankhamun was a Britbong, which is ridiculous.
Other then the dailymail where in mainstream academia have you seen this, cause its very obvious these takes(despite only slightly less retarded) aren't promoted in the same extend, show me one fucking source mainstream movie the past 20 years that outright claims that Egyptian Pharohs and such were actually all white?
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Hell, even like actual Africans are starting to believe these "facts", I think that due to American influence, Afro-centrist nonsense is spreading disproportionately despite being complete and utter BS.
Scientifically he is correct. Modern day Europeans came from Asia.
This is actually right, Wigger. Europeans are the descendants of rapebabies of Aryans who crawled out of the Middle East and made incursions into Europe from Asia.
>White supremacy nonsense is spreading disproportionately
FTFY. Also, Afrocentrism was invented by White supremacists to make the latter look tolerable.(racesperging, infighting)
There it is. The Wignat is playing the victim
and minority cards despite being everywhere on the internet and backed by every institution in the West.
Can you tell me why you think they'd look like Gooks?
inb4 "it's the location of modern mongolia and bcuz mongolia is gook anyone from there must've been gook too"(racebait)
also big lol at the arab crying about "erasure", you are literally brainwashing the entire world that the "middle east" (a racist white term) is arab and you suck off whites who would've wiped you off the face of the earth if a particular country in the "middle east" didn't exist
Blacked is a racist cuckold fetish by White people.>>1856641>isolated cases
More coping, please.
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The key to remember is that Egypt is basically two ethnic groups: northern Egyptians and southern Egyptians. Northern Egyptians are more light-skinned and levantine. Southern Egyptians have significant Nubian and East African admixture and are dark skinned. The further south you go, the more likely people are to look increasingly Nubian and would be seen as "black" here in the States. Since Southern Egypt was originally the kingdom that united all of ancient Egypt into one entity, there was always a significant black African presence in Egypt from the very beginning. The race of any particular pharaoh or dynasty would have depended on where they descended from after that. Afrocentrists are wrong to cast Egypt as a singularly "black" civilization but they are right that it was as much an African one as a Mediterranean one and that white Europeans have long not liked to acknowledge that.
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So now they are claiming all of asia as well.
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They are claiming Polynesians now. This guy was posting about how China is sending men to Africa in a conspiracy to have babies with the women there. He then went further to say that Polynesians are “bred out” Africans like Native Americans.
Why must they insist on claiming every other cultures no matter how ”niche” it is? Are they not satisfied by their own identity?
>>1913376>all intelligence comes from us
this is the shit that bothers me about all these supremacist types, this idea that their people hold some monopoly on intelligence when all people have at some time been suppressed and made stupid or had a golden age with great thinkers and strides towards equality and love. any individual human can be stupid or smart and if given opportunities the smart people thrive. race matters no more than sex in this regard
It also screams insecurity, like your numbers for intelligence or success don't seem high to you so you have to take credit for someone else's or make everyone else dumber to raise yourself up instead of just helping your community thrive if there's something stopping them
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This account has 52K followers and it's peddling shit like this!
How are these people not embarrassed?
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Olmecs are a mysterious race but they have quite asiatic looking eyes so I’d say they’re probably just natives or some Polynesian type race
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Some polynesians do look pretty black tbh because of heavy Melanesian admixture. Many Melanesians also look African. But according to genetic testing Melanesians are quite distant from Africans and are closer to Asians. Polynesians tend to be quite large framed compared to other kinds of Asians. They’re supposedly immigrants from south east Asia but their largeness makes them look more Africanized, but there’s no evidence they’re actually African, it’s more likely that extremely hot climates naturally selected for dark skin and curly hair which is why they look similar to Africans.
Most Polynesians lived on remote islands and the main way they competed for mates and food/resources was by fistfights and wrestling, which again probably naturally selected for their largeness and big skulls (both of these are advantageous when fighting hand to hand) Theyre not black theyre basically spicy Island Asians.
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Polynesians are descended from Taiwanese aboriginals, whose appearance is distinct from most other ethnic groups.
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sub saharan admixture, i.e. what you refer to as 'nubian' (i've never seen a legit anthropologist do this) is low in northern african populations.
calling any non SSA-descended egyptians 'black' or 'black passing' feels like calling ariana grande black b/c she's like a few % north african/SSA. sure she can maaaybe pass as mixed with enough tan/makeup but that's b/c we all come from africa and there's tons of native east Asians who resemble ppl from remote African groups who they would have never had contact with historically b/c we are all Africans in spite of the cliche.
>Consequently, genome-wide diversity show similar patterns with admixture tests suggesting North Africans are a mixture of ancestral populations related to current Africans and Eurasians with more affinity towards the out-of-Africa populations than to sub-Saharan Africans. We estimate from the paternal lineages that most North Africans emerged ~15,000 years ago during the last glacial warming and that population splits started after the desiccation of the Sahara
black Americans think Nefertiti was black too when she was a Mesopotamian princess. She looks like middle eastern people do. but that's not good enough, apparently.
Her husband looks SSA and had an SSA mother, though.
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Have you ever heard of the Nation of Islam’s origins? This is more of a South Park satirical style comic but it’s worth readinghttps://twitter.com/smackfrank/status/1727316024163496355
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There's another popular hotep book(The Iceman Inheritance) which argues more or less the same thing just without the Yakub shit, the cold winters turned white people into a race pre-disposed to fighting, violent murder and war, every advancement white people have ever made has been in relation to war and conquest and nothing else, all art and progress of Europe was actually stolen from Egypt. This frankly racist book is still taught as part of certain black literary movements https://www.instagram.com/p/CzCw6YUuZiP/?img_index=1
There's something I wonder about these books. If you took out the race aspect and took these as flawed theories about men themselves, I wonder how close some of it is to reality while coping it's a thing in other races and not theirs kek. Or maybe they might have clued in on things in a "pointing fingers at others is easier than at yourself" kind of way. Maybe they have found some of the reasons for men to be aggressive in cultures other than their own that may or may not apply to theirs too.
I'm sure most of it can be thrown out for being flawed at its most charitable (and of course these are written by men not to be "misandrist"), but I'm curious about some of the info in an anti moid way.
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nta. but it is somewhat true that no other group of nationalists have to deal with the hard-to-ignore baggage of having been conquered, enslaved, and colonized for most of their known history. The point is that for the most part at least, other ethnic nationalists claim their own or related history. The hoteps cling to/hijack anything non bIack.
like no other nationalist would have to make something like picrel.
that could be true, but the fact is that there are not many written sources for Sub-Saharan Africa, the texts that do exist and that describe it (including the famous Mansa Musa story) are all from Arabic sources and most were very racist.
Ibn Khaldun and Ibn Sina are considered the greatest Arab historians and thinkers, pretty much all sciences in the middle east will be traced back to them, they were horribly racist by every standard when describing African people and their views represented what most Arabs thought.