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No. 1373450
Allison (Alice) is known on TikTok for being a crunchy mom, vegan, and self-proclaimed tradwife.
>met husband Caleb Bender when she was 14; he was 18>says she left him for two years because he didn’t want to get married and start a family, so she was ~17 and he was ~21>got married as soon as she turned 19; immediately got pregnant>in February 2019, Allison was in a car crash at 29 weeks pregnant>sent to the hospital in an ambulance; delivered the baby via emergency cesarean>baby Aurelia didn’t survive>Allison first blamed the C-section, later the vitamin K injection>announced second pregnancy in February 2020>refused prenatal care because she thinks ultrasounds have radiation>chose to “freebirth” instead>i.e. gave birth alone on her toilet in their apartment; fished out her own placenta from her uterus two hours later>Fern was born in August 2020>Allison believes all women should be willing to die alone in childbirth rather than go to the hospital or have C-sections>Fern is dressed gender neutral, except when Allison makes him wear her dead daughter’s dresses>vegan except for her expensive leather baby stroller>claims her parents were abusive because they fed her meat as a child>anti-vaxx; bragged about telling people not to wash their hands before holding her newborn, but she’s nervous around people who got the covid vaccine>lets Fern eat dirt, sticks, rocks, shopping cart handles, etc. because she breastfeeds>refuses to wear sunscreen or put it on her infant because she thinks vegans can’t get sunburns>believes she is smarter than doctors despite only having a GED & dropping out of college>hasn’t worked since she quit Victoria’s Secret during her first pregnancy because #tradwife>refuses to say what Caleb does for a living; according to a GoFundMe set up after the car crash, he previously worked at a sports bar in a strip mallThere’s definitely loads more and she is sketchy as hell, but all she ever does is posts online, so it’s a lot to sift through.
She’s had some press coverage in the U.S. and U.K., and she obviously likes the attention. Her look has changed drastically since she started getting popular, and it seems slightly at odds with her crunchy all-natural organic vegan persona (hair & lash extensions, acrylic nails, e-girl makeup).
The Sun:
- “I’m a vegan mum & think baby formula should be illegal, I’ll breastfeed my son until he’s 4 & he decides when he sleeps”
https://www.the-sun.com/lifestyle/2585143/vegan-mum-baby-formula-illegal-breastfeed-baby-four/- “I refuse to put sun cream on my baby – people say I’m mad but they’re filled with chemicals & I know I’m right”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/14984203/refuse-sun-cream-baby-filled-chemicals/- “Mum feeds her baby like a bird by PRE-CHEWING his food leaving people stunned”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/15758083/mum-feeds-baby-like-bird-by-pre-chewing-food/Daily Mirror:
- “Mum defends letting her baby eat dirt and chew on sand to 'build his immune system’”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/mum-defends-letting-baby-eat-24000677- “Mum sparks controversy by refusing to put sunscreen on her nine-month-old baby”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/mum-sparks-controversy-refusing-put-24133359Daily Mail: “Vegan mother, 22, reveals she lets her baby, 8 months, chew sand and rocks and lick shopping cart straps because germs are good for his immune system and her breast milk is 'medicine’”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9524743/Vegan-mother-22-lets-baby-eight-months-eat-sand-rocks-lick-shopping-trolleys.htmlLINKS
Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/alicellani/TikTok:
https://www.tiktok.com/@alicellani /
https://www.tiktok.com/@aliceandfernYouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcvTBOZRCShzsEd0guqg2QwTwitter:
https://twitter.com/Comingupfern1Amazon wishlist: just kidding, but of course she has multiple
No. 1373507
>>1373505I agree that the American birth system is inherently
abusive, but Alice acts like you can only have one or the other. that’s not true. if she actually interacted with other mothers instead of shaming them, she might see that too.
and then she wouldn’t be spreading dangerous misinformation, telling women it’s better to push out a baby alone on the toilet rather than in the presence of midwives and doulas at the hospital or birth center.
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the only person she follows on Twitter is Nuance Now. imagine being that desperate.
>>1373519she posted recently that he started a new job
https://www.tiktok.com/@alicellani/video/7031964845998394670but there's speculation that he got fired from the last one because of her TikToks
the only confirmed employment for either of them is The Hub and Victoria's Secret. the rest is food stamps and Biden Buxxx, which is ironic.
BUT there are also rumors from people who work in organic markets near her that she'll walk around for hours filming, then walk around and put the food back on the shelves.
hmm
No. 1373538
>>1373534I could see her doing that. Posing with the food just to put it back. She brags all the time about how much she spends and it just comes off show offy to me. It’ll be interesting to see her get called out more the more people recognise her in public.
As far as her husband goes that would suck if he lost his job because of her but honestly her account is loaded with dangerous misinformation I wouldn’t doubt it could start affecting his life too.
I wonder if having Bidens money is what’s helping them build this new house. It’s just crazy that she spends an astronomical amount of money while they are building a new home.
No. 1373541
>>1373538she brags about OUR $300 GROCERY HAUL but it just hits different when you know they bought it on food stamps. especially when she says "everyone can be vegan! beans and rice are cheap!" and then she spends $300 on EBT and brags about it.
I'm glad my tax dollars are going to Baby Fern, I guess.
No. 1373545
>>1373541She sure will slam the government about not trusting them but has no issues with getting money from them.
Did they ever get Covid? I’ve never seen this woman wear a mask and she’s constantly parading her and her son around groups of people. She also advocates for people to not wash their hands when holding Fern even as a newborn. She made a Tiktok where she was really distraught about an older woman talking to Fern with a mask on. She was so mad that the woman had a mask on around her baby.
It’s so interesting how making your own choices only applies to the choices she agrees with. I’m glad that woman got her all bothered over a mask. Kek
No. 1373557
>>1373518she hates older moms partly because she thinks it’s abuse to give birth past basically teenage years. she used to say she wanted something crazy like ten kids but now that she’s an elderly 22 year old shes not sure it’s ethical to ever be pregnant again.
Also, wtf is up with her claiming to be a “frutarian/frugivore” while obviously eating plenty of non-fruit, and saying adults should naturally be under 100 pounds so they can climb fruit trees easier
No. 1373559
>>1373548I feel bad for that poor bub. I can’t imagine how he will feel when he’s older looking back on all the personal details his mom shared about him online.
She’s clearly very unwell and I think her trauma is clouding a lot of her judgment. She fed Fern whole grapes while he was cradled in her arms. People were rightfully making a fuss about it and she said she trusts Fern to chew his food and if you don’t trust your baby then you shouldn’t feed them certain things.
Like what….
No. 1373564
>>1373557She honestly makes no sense to me with her whole fruit diet thing. She also mentioned cooked food is terrible for you but majority of her food is freakin cooked.
I don’t know if she posts some things as satire or to get a rise out of people but the truth is she has a decent following with young impressionable girls who will take her for her word and follow exactly what she says. I don’t know, she’s just incredibly dangerous to me.
No. 1373580
>>1373557she did say she wanted one kid per year, or something equally silly. before she knew the reality of having even one kid. her only aspiration is to be a housewife. she said so herself.
I really can't figure out her hate for "older moms" other than that they have more freedom than her, which she is constantly overcompensating for. like, look how free my life is, after I drop off my husband for his soul-crushing job in our shared beater car so he can support all three of us on a single income. all the better to qualify for benefits my dear. and then I go grocery shopping and buy a $12 smoothie and stare at my dogshit-encrusted carpet while my kid crawls around on it. what a life.
she's promoting a lot of irresponsible health stuff, but also like… literally all the life advice she's doling out is absolute garbage.
the first time I saw her, she was posted here, talking about how our best bet as women is to baby-trap a man, because our value is decreasing, while
his is increasing.
and I'm sorry to Caleb who seems like a nice enough guy (but also a groomer) but… nah babe.
do better, for the sake of your wretched offspring
(sage) No. 1373595
>>1373588I do think she's a good parent to Fern. I did a lot of the same stuff she does (veganism, EBF, baby-led weaning, baby-wearing, cloth diapering, letting my kid take the reins on toilet training, letting them explore freely, basically all the attachment parenting stuff). but I also think she's a
victim of extremes. like she doesn't believe she can have a happy chubby vegan EBF baby who also gets regular checkups and a fucking MMR vaccine.
I can empathize with the trajectory her grief has taken, and I admire her crusade for consent. but now she's just putting other women and babies at risk, and it's scary to think this woman has influence over even younger women.
>>1373585I think he doesn't care. we only ever see him playing video games. Allison is a good handmaiden though. she buys him a PS5 with his own money, and then keeps the baby quiet so he can focus!
No. 1373724
>>1373629Luna has multicystic encephalomalacia, and her doctors ruled out everything
but a birth injury. it happened because Robyn refused to go to the hospital, and instead left Luna trapped in her birth canal for hours. this deprived her brain of oxygen and eventually turned it into Swiss cheese. Robyn did that to Luna, and Alice is advocating for other women to do the same.
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>>1373743Robyn
wants people to believe it’s genetic or just a freak random occurrence, because the awful truth is she caused this herself. her Organic Empathic Magical All-Natural Instagram Free-birth Journey was more important to her than a healthy baby.
hate to say it but the best place to read up on Robyn is her KF thread.
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-empathic-nutritionist-empathic-mamahood-robyn-grogitsky-ramirez-luna-elva-ramirez-glenn-ramirez-atlas-glenn-standford-ramirez.84621/these women need therapy, not more babies. not more unearned, uneducated influence.
No. 1373770
>>1373763You know shit is about to unveil when you see the comma brows
Poor kid
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this is minor compared to everything else but she doesn’t know the sex of her dog, Mr./Mrs. Pancake kek
https://www.tiktok.com/@greenwich06830/video/7033143780077210927 No. 1373843
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Allison’s old Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/alicetehspaz/she hasn’t posted on it since 2015 when she was ~16, but Caleb is following that account. he was ~20 when she was 16.
Caleb:
https://www.instagram.com/club_bendover/G R O O M E R
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ALICE wash your damn hands!
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this bitch. where to even start.
also does she know she’ll be 30 in not that many years?
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her newest thing is refusing to wear shoes in public, she calls shoes “feet prisons” lol
No. 1374085
>>1374082you can get pinworms and other parasites from being barefoot, imagine all the doodoo she's stepped on lol.
also she does not look 100 lbs
No. 1374089
>>1374082I really think she does most of this shit for TikTok controversy views.
she has a major case of NLOG syndrome.
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>>1374087it’s an imageboard
nonnie No. 1374092
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No. 1374115
>>1374090he literally LOOKS like a groomer
I thought he must be rich, because he looks like
this, but I think he still works in restaurants. his dad is some kind of CFO in the medical field, which is everything Allison is against, but Caleb’s parents seem to be the ones bankrolling their vegan organic life.
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>>1373571sorry to kek at this tragedy but
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>>1374343she said in this video that she changed it because people were confused when she posted content without fern and it wouldnt make sense to keep comingupfern if she has more kids
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>>1374521maybe it’s just circumstantial? but she says here on October 20 that Pancake is vegan
No. 1374774
>>1374696She constantly moves the goalpost. She was shitting on moms who used colourful/plastic toys and someone spotted some in her house. She went on a rant that she found them on the side of the road so it was okay. WHAT..? She also said if you find meat in the dumpster and eat it it’s technically vegan. This woman’s thought process is so warped. She shames women so hard and then when she gets caught doing exactly that she gaslights and moves the goalposts to justify what she’s doing.. and then continues to shame women for that same thing.
I also hate how she calls people ‘guilty of their choices’ if they challenge her on her views. That’s a nice way to gaslight people. I find her dangerous because her fan base will literally go to war for her.
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I wonder if pregnancy tests count under her “if it’s free it’s vegan” rule
No. 1374993
>>1374046>whywefreebirth>homebirthShe could of made this as a warning to women about how predatory male obgyns are but 30 year women existing with jobs to help deliver babies are worse I guess according to her. I'll never get tradthots who think they're above aging. Like they live in constant fear of being called some eggless hag by scrotes online for being past a certain age
>>1374090That poor baby's genes
No. 1375057
>>1373518she says she won’t cut up grapes because if you can’t trust your baby to chew, the baby shouldn’t be eating. which is true. but then she does the chew and spit thing, and begs attention for it. so which is it?
also, I know she doesn’t actually “read the science” or comprehend it from one big tell, but I won’t say it here. I’m waiting to see if she figures it out herself.
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> TW Aurelia’s full death story since people are claiming to know me IRL & post fake ones: https://www.instagram.com/p/CMuUGv2AeHr/
>A man & his kid turned left in front of me at the intersection right next to my apartment. I was going 45, probably 40 at the time of the crash since I had taken my foot off the pedal. Nobody was injured. Emergency came even though NOBODY CALLED THEM, because that’s just what they do when there’s an accident. The emergency responder kept telling me I should get checked out since I was pregnant even though I kept telling him I was fine. I was shy & didn’t know my rights & he persisted and eventually coerced me into the ambulance. When we got there, nobody told us we could leave or even asked if we had gone by our own free will. We arrived to a team of 30 or so people in a room who cut my clothes off and started doing all these tests without consent. Everything was fine. We were sent to L&D to wait on the results of an abruption test. A man came in & told us the test was NEGATIVE, but that he was doing a csection anyway. He did not look at my husband or I when he said this. He just told the nurse next to him he was going to do a csection. I asked why twice and was ignored. The nurse strapped me to a gurney without explaining any risks or asking if that was what I wanted. She started wheeling me off & handed me a paper to sign. I thought I legally didn’t have a choice & signed it. The only thing I’ll ever regret in my life is not leaving the hospital, but I was so shy and didn’t know my rights. I woke up to a different man telling me my daughter was dying. I didn’t believe him until I saw what they had done to her. She was so roughed up. I got to hold her for a minute, but it was clear she was already gone. The man who did the csection told us he didn’t know what happened. We didn’t find out until we got the medical records almost two years later that her HR was fine before the csection and right after until she was given the vitamin k injection. The doc never gave us a reason for doing the csection & changed his story several times in the records>I was only 29 weeks pregnant at this time, and NO risks were explained to me about surgically extracting a baby that early. Even if she hadn’t died, I would be JUST AS ANGRY at that doctor because she would have suffered lifelong issues.>Trying to blame what killed Aurelia on any specific thing is like shooting someone with 5 different guns at the same time & then blaming the death on a specific gun. It was a combination of everything. Taking her out too early, giving her a BATH before trying to help her (yep, they bathed her before she died), the vitamin k injection, cutting the cord immediately, not getting immediate skin to skin with mom>Her autopsy says “toxicology testing not done” I have been trying to get her remains testing privately, but there is no test to test if vitamin k injection killed a baby!!!!!>This has been reported to VAERS, however I don’t think the VAERS system is intended for vitamin k. If anyone knows where to report vitamin k reactions, please reach out No. 1375065
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>>1375061>Part one of Fern’s unassisted vbac homebirth story:
>At 9pm, I started having contractions and lost my plug. I decided to drive to the grocery store to stock up on produce. When I came back, Caleb and I spent the rest of the night snacking on fruit. I watched a couple of homebirth videos once Caleb went to sleep before the contractions got too intense. After a few hours, they felt nearly unbearable. I didn’t want to watch anything or listen to music at that point. I was too focused. I timed contractions until I decided that was taking too much of my focus and I should just let things happen naturally on their own time. When Caleb woke up that morning, I finally told him Fern was coming soon. The contractions were really intense by that point and I wondered how much longer I could stand them, but I took comfort in knowing women have been giving birth without pain medicine for much longer than they have with. Caleb brought me Chipotle and turned on Adventure Time for me at some point, but I couldn’t eat or watch the show. I was deep in concentration. Around 12am, it was finally time to push. After what felt like a long time of pushing, I started getting nervous. I hopped out of the shower and asked Caleb for the Doppler, but he reassured me everything was okay and reminded me we shouldn’t expose baby to the radiation. I went back into the bathroom, continuing to freak out, and pushed as forcefully as I could, even when I was not having contractions. Fern was born into my arms at 2:34 am. He had the chord wrapped around his neck twice, but was the pinkest newborn I’d ever seen! He cried immediately! I called Caleb into the room and we suctioned his nose & mouth and stared at him in pure love. We finally had a baby. No. 1375066
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>>1375065>Part 2 of Fern’s birth story:
>Despite Fern being super pink and crying right away, he did need some help removing mucus from his nose/mouth. We suctioned him for around 20 minutes with a nasal aspirator. We snuggled him, Caleb fell asleep (we had both been up for a very long time at this point) and I nursed Fern. He latched immediately! (Something I had been really nervous about!) Then I waited for Fern’s placenta to be born so I could clean it, set it in a bowl, place Fern in his bassinet, and pass out as we planned on leaving the placenta attached until it naturally detached. Two hours into waiting, it still hadn’t come on it’s own, so I cut the chord a few inches away from my end (so Fern could keep as much chord blood + stem cells as possible), tied a knot in the chord itself, and set Fern in his bassinet. We didn’t even need the chord tie I had made. I don’t know anyone besides an OB who would recommend this much of an intervention, but I was SO exhausted by this point and needed to sleep so I reached my hand in and guided the placenta out and went to sleep.
>I am so thankful we learned of homebirth as I doubt Fern and I would be here without it. Fern likely would have been scooped away from us & rushed to an NICU to be suctioned where they would have vaccinated him without our consent and cut his chord immediately before even attempting to resuscitate him like they did with Aurelia, (+ mutilated his genitals too, since he’s male) they likely would have given me an unnecessary episiotomy that would make me scream every time I saw like I do with my c scar, and they would probably have given me an ungodly amount of pitocin to force my placenta out - or stuck their hands up me themselves. Not to mention that my labor lasted longer than the “allowed time” for a vbac, so I would have had to fight + possibly leave the hospital during labor to escape being cut open again.
>Having gone through a natural birth, I can’t imagine suffering obstetric abuse and then being handed a newborn that depended on me for survival - props to all the women who give birth in hospitals 🥴 No. 1375088
>>1375066>I doubt Fern and I would be here without it. Fern likely would have been scooped away from us & rushed to an NICU to be suctionedlif he needed to be suctioned, they’d do it right there between her legs, and not waited for the snoozy husband to wake up and help. everything they did, she would have signed off on.
>>1375066>and cut his chord immediately before even attempting to resuscitate him like they did with Aurelia, (+ mutilated his genitals too, since he’s male)don’t trust anyone who claims to read ALL the LiTeRaTuRe but repeatedly calls the umbilical cord a “chord”
also, they only perform circumcisions if you (the mother) consent to it. so just, don’t?
No. 1375096
>>1375093>She said at one point she came out of the bathroom and told him she wanted to go to a hospital and he convinced her she could continue the free birth. That part made me feel weird.. unless she left out the part where she told him to try to convince her to stay home unless something was really wrong.whattt. sorry to bring her up again, but this is the same for Robyn/@empathic_mamahood. she mentioned in her now-deleted birth story that she started to worry and wanted to go to the hospital, but Glenn talked her out of it. like who brainwashed who?
>>1375094she reminds me of Onision, too, for a lot of reasons.
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>>1375707We all know she is lying & just taking them off for pictures & attention. But I live near her and these things called Goatheads are everywhere on the ground. I can't wait until she steps on one, but since she only takes her shoes off for photos, probably won't happen. Bet her baby gets one before her.
No. 1375802
>>1375202If you don't want to feed meat to an animal, don't adopt a dog or cat dumbass. Dogs are opportunistic carnivores, they aren't meant to go without meat. In the wild, canines kill other animals and scavenge for carcasses, they don't give a fuck about your human obsession with ~uwu the poor cows~.
If you want a vegan pet, get a fucking rabbit. Stop choosing to adopt animals whose care you morally object to.
No. 1377956
>>1377932she also bought a leather Uppababy stroller
idk if I was as crunchy as her but I thought it was weird to put a baby in a stroller instead of wearing or walking…
No. 1377995
>>1377956Ahh, the stroller tea.
So she bought it because (according to one YouTube video) the older moms she refers to as “posh” with the uppababy strollers and Lululemon leggings all have them. (She sh*ts on older moms but then copies them like a pathetic wannabe) we all commented that it was leather, and for months she spent deleting the comments and blocking. Then she filmed a video of her bragging fern was vegan from conception with him literally CHEWING on the leather bar… kek. a tea acct finally tagged her in a video calling her out, and the very next day she made a video saying she regrets her uppababy purchase, and she did not know it was leather. I know she’s bullshittin’ because it says it all over the website, it SMELLS of leather, and part of the reason it’s so expensive is because it was leather. She then plugs a different vegan stroller instead, saying it’s better.
She then got a partnership with Bombigear, a vegan “eco” stroller but several moms sent them her videos calling C-Sections “surgical extractions” and not birth, as well as other misogynistic takes on women’s fertility and their value to society declining as they age, and the company decided they didn’t wanna play that so they asked her to remove the “paid partnership” flag and all their tags on her advertisement she posted to Instagram and dropped her like a hot potato. The pictures came back up several days later but without the tags, and advertisement part.
Now she never uses the vegan stroller anymore probably because she’s still salty.
No. 1378067
>>1377932She’s awful when it comes to his sleep schedule. She advocates hard to basically let your child run themselves rugged until they can’t stand and then you can to put them to bed. It’s hilarious how she judges and shames moms for their parenting method yet when she contradicts herself and goes back on her word she expects grace and tells people they are bullying her when they call her out on her own words.
I also really feel like she puts fern is such dangerous situations. If he wakes up in the middle of the night she takes him out just him and her. They go to parks and pools at like 2am.
No. 1378118
>>1378112in my opinion she is kinda pedo herself, it's probably because she got groomed from a young age and thinks all men think like her groomer husband. it's like she's ashamed of her thoughts and tries to project and shame other women cause she thinks they all ultimately think the same( all men want teenagers and that they're jealous of said teens).
she projected her own ideas on her mom too saying she was jealous of her teenage body and tight vagina and feel threatened by her, thinking her husband would have eyes on alice.
she's so mentally ill and delusional. she shouldn't have a platform this big to influence young girls and basically groom them.
she gives off strong lainy vibes
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speaking of her family. she said in a recent TikTok
https://www.tiktok.com/@alicellani/video/7035289168356085039 that her entire side of the family isn’t in the picture, but Caleb’s is. does anyone know why? Caleb’s family lives in Bristol TN but Alice’s lives near them. seems like Caleb moved out to AZ for Alice?
either way, why did Allison cut out her whole family?
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>>1374046I know this is old, but nobody is ever ever jealous of a teen mom. They are pitied if anything. I’m not saying male OBs can’t be pervs but I doubt they are falling head over heels for a teen mom, teen moms are the laughingstock of America and nobody is jealous of you, Alice. Especially if the dad looks like the guy on Scary Movie 2 with the fucked up hand. The nurses were probably staring cause they felt sorry for you and your baby that is poorly cared for.
> tfw some crunchy hippie unwashed pregnant teen mom comes into a clinic No. 1378366
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>>1378357Alice said she literally cried from jealousy over a pregnant 19 year old with 2 kids by 2 baby daddies, plus 2 step kids. and some kind of age gap.
https://www.tiktok.com/@aliceandfern/video/7035400514942848303she’s the only one who’s jealous of teen moms, and she’s projecting it on everyone else. it’s really fucking weird and gross.
No. 1378412
>>1378357SCREAMING at your description of her husband.
Yea I’m an older mom and no shade or shame to those who had babies young but I am in no way envious or jealous of them. I’m grateful I waited because I have way more patience and maturity in my 30’s then I did my early 20’s.
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>>1378366Lmao this is the woman she’s crying in jealousy over. All this traumatized BPD gutter rats are the same. Sad!
No. 1378443
>>1378406the older pics of her are on her old IG
>>1373843https://www.instagram.com/alicetehspaz/I’m curious how Alice and Caleb met, if she was only 14 and he was 18 at the time, and (to my knowledge) he’s from Tennessee while she’s from Arizona. did they meet online?
I’m trying to understand her weird obsession with age and “older moms.” it feels like Caleb has something to do with it.
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she changed her Twitter username
https://twitter.com/alicellani No. 1379209
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What kind of thinking was she doing while filming this, if this was true then women who were anachans or did hard sports in their teens which pushed their periods to their late teens/twentys should be the most fertile, even though those factors can lead to higher chances of infertility. Bruh
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the way she has already assigned this poor kid a personality before he has spoken a single word himself
he’s fucked once he grows up and develops his own opinions and preferences.
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in this one she says if her husband was physically unable to work, she would simply… do gaming? as a job? KEK girl
and she says if her husband refused to work, she would leave. but she doesn’t say what she would do. I guess full-time stay-at-home gamer mama?
No. 1379922
>>1379868>>1378436>>1378118>>1378112I swear I'm not an Ostrenga but this lolcow seems to be a pedo lesbian to me. She watched the tiktok of that girl talking about traumatic experiences, it wasn't a happy video about her kids, and got too jealous/aroused.
It's not heterosexual of her to be thinking how tight are other girls bodies and pussies
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Has anyone been following this tea account? She had a bunch of videos up basically doing commentary on Alice’s videos, they were pretty savage, and she implied several times that Alice was responsible for her own baby’s death and kept promising to do an expose video explaining everything, but never delivered and has since taken down all of her Alice videos. The interesting thing is that in one of her comments on her own videos she mentioned that she was a follower of Alice and hadn’t been blocked yet, and that Alice believes that they are friendly. Any idea who it could be?
No. 1380291
>>1380285so she can dish it out, but she can't take it. gotcha. the way she spews the most vile, uninformed shit and then cries about bullying and "adversity" when anyone calls her out.
>>1380171this person said that her husband signs Caleb's paychecks at his new job, and that he told the new place that he got fired from his last one because of something on Alice's TikTok.
>>1380133no way? I think you're right, I remember her asking about the pros & cons of starting an OnlyFans, and she recently posted a TikTok about how she romanticizes becoming a stripper until she remembers men go to those places.
No. 1380344
>>1380285Is she? How do you know?
I remember seeing all the videos for this acct as well, the creator explained that their fiancé somehow worked with Caleb… the tea seemed good.
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>>1378357Caleb can't date women his age because they've seen this movie
No. 1380398
>>138038I swear this child only knows his mom through the camera lense. She documents so much. I remember there was one Tiktok where she’s sitting ontop of the playground facing away from Fern while he’s on the ground. You can see him in the background crawling in the opposite direction of her and she’s not even paying attention. He got pretty far too, enough to create a commotion from even her supporters in her comment section to say something. All Fern is to her is an extension of herself and a way to make money and get free shit. I can’t believe the amount of stuff she gets from her followers.
Also her jealousy and weird infatuation with women makes me worried if she were to ever have a girl. I can see her favouring Fern over her and pitting herself against her daughter. I know she suffered a traumatic loss with her daughter but she never talks about her in a loving way. It’s always my first baby or the baby. It’s never her daughter or her daughters name. I think I’ve only ever heard her refer to her daughter by name once and that’s because someone asked if they named her. Maybe it’s just how she copes and I won’t judge her for that if that’s the case.
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This girl posted a TikTok asking why Alice thinks she is too old for more kids at age 22 and it got reported.
No. 1381805
>>1380840It’s funny how she can go to spew the most vile and
toxic shit, act like a badass while shaming moms but the second someone challenges her she backs into a corner and cries bullying. She has a massive
victim complex it’s no wonder she has no friends or family in her life. She’s insufferable and I feel terrible for little Fern. It’s going to suck growing up with a mom like that. I can imagine him trying to make decisions for himself and her gaslighting and shaming him until he bends to her will. She’s gross and she needs some help.
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No. 1383219
>>1383139Hosting….
Is she pregnant again? She does not need another baby. She needs therapy.
(sage) No. 1384720
>>1384619I hope she never has a daughter. can you imagine how jealous Alice would be of her? she’d be jealous of her youth, jealous anytime Caleb paid her any attention.
speaking of Caleb. she’s said in multiple TikToks that he’s the one pushing for her to have another baby. I’m not sure whether I believe that or not. on one hand, he’s a fucking groomer. on the other, she said she broke up with him for two years because
she wanted to start a family and he wasn’t ready.
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I really hope Fern is getting the proper nutrients. He doesn’t deserve to be unwell because his mother is a nutjob who doesn’t know how to feed a toddler a balanced diet. Vegan diets can be healthy and balanced but just eating fruit aint it. Poor baby is going to have so many problems with his health later on.
No. 1385369
>>1385126She is so fucking dangerous. You cannot survive on fruit alone and she shows herself eating things other then fruit. She knows her followers will listen to whatever she says so the fact she gives out such dangerous information is infuriating.
I agree about Fern. I honestly think she’s going to mess him up food wise. She already seems to struggle with disordered eating and gives disordered advice to her followers. I could see her passing that on to fern too.
No. 1385570
>>1385510>when we're fertileThe best time to have a baby is in your 20s and early 30s, she's insane. In fact iirc, the
ideal age to have a baby is 29-30.
>buy a baby from a teenagerGross.
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just gonna leave this here
No. 1386193
>>1385805it’s just her autism~*~
she’s obsessed with telling everyone she’s ~only~ 100 lbs, and bragging about her bra size
No. 1386280
>>1386206for someone who doesn't believe in science she sure does cling to her diagnosis or maybe she's not even diagnosed
>>1386193i've noticed that. she says she's 5'4.5 and 100 lbs but she doesn't even look skinny
No. 1386290
>>1386280I bet she blames her
ABUSIVE parents for getting her vaccinated as a child, so it’s their fault she caught autism kek
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>>1385510>she’s in MesaGet out! GET OUT! GET OUUUUUUUT!!!
No. 1386658
>>1386570this gave me anxiety watching fern go far away and she did nothing but recording, imagine if someone snatched him.
her house looks so untidy and they just generally look so unwashed jesus christ.
also i did a quick google search and bow legs come from lack of vitamin D / calcium but he seems to get a lot of sun and drink a lot of milk so idk.
tbh alice going on adventures with fern is kinda cute even tho it is dangerous imo
No. 1387205
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>>1386570Some comments in the video. Why are 12 yo girls following this woman. I'm not letting my kids on social media.
No. 1387819
>>1387672yes but if she is autistic, that’s probably not why. “crying it out” is horrible but most of us around her age were raised that way. and almost everyone older was. at least in the US. and I know plenty of kids with autism who were never allowed to cry it out.
Alice keeps calling her parents
abusive for extremely normal shit. it’s not GOOD and it shouldn’t be normalized, but for her age and the age of her parents, it’s normal.
but that wouldn’t fit into poor Allison’s martyr complex.
No. 1387952
>>1387947It would be interesting to hear their side of the story. Alice reminds me a lot of Onision. She gaslights her fans like he does, she manipulates them like he does, she muddies up the truth to confuse them like he does and she seems to isolate herself from other like he does. Even down to her obsession with teenagers is similar to him. I wouldn’t doubt that her family probably grew tired of her and told her to shape up or get out and since she’s the
victim in everything she turned it into something it wasn’t.. abuse.
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her sisters are really young. I wonder if they even know they’re “estranged”, or why. her mom posted this in May.
I’m dying to hear Allison tell the full story!
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god she’s gross
No. 1391867
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I’m not well versed in autists so is imprinting on food a legitimate thing lmao? Her radfemalice account is something too. Also from this video Starbucks is the enemy and freezing food is bad
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>>1391867damn, why does she have so many accounts? how does she have the time?
https://www.tiktok.com/@radfemalice No. 1392099
>>1391925her face looks super edited in that pfp.
i think she's made many accounts cause people keep posting negative comments on her posts? or reporting it. she mentioned her main got banned multiple times
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>>1391867I can’t BELIEVE our all-natural queen is eating microwaved pouches of channa masala. isn’t she worried about the radiation or some stupid shit
No. 1392539
She has 3 different accounts (alicelani, radfemalice, aliceandfern), as well as a youtube chanel and her Instagram account. She spends a minimum of 2hours a day in supermarkets reading the back of every products. Then she gets home and has to store all of her groceries, that’s probably another hour.
Everything she does, she has to film.
When does she find the time to like, do normal things? Spend time with a friend, have a date with her woke and super hot, super smart husband, play with her child without any screen involved…?
She must never ever sleep? If that’s her strategy, it’s doable while she is still a middle aged 22 year old, but once she joins the elderly group of 25 + she is gonna FEEL the lack of sleep.
No. 1395295
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Her ''radfemalice'' account is gone lmao. She basically got roasted by a nurse on tiktok ''raqueltheoverlord''. Raquel basically roasted her ass and Alice couldn't do anything but only comment.
No. 1395296
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Alice throwing hissy fit at ''Radfemalice'' part 2
No. 1395297
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>>1395297Has anyone else seen this on TikTok?
this is some CPS level stuff right here
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>>1397227oh jfc I was wondering what happened to her rabbit
picrel is her bunny eating an avocado that she dropped on the floor
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>>1397323fuck Alice. it was literally THIS easy.
she can't even be trusted to keep a rabbit alive. she should NOT be in charge of another human.
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I can't help but think they look a little TOO bowed though.. And We know this kid isn't getting enough protein.
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I can’t believe this is the hill she choses to die on. She constantly brings it up unprompted like she has a personal vendetta against women who have had c-sections. Why does she care so much?
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>>1397473She turns comments off but some of the tea accounts have already posted it… she’s disgusting.
No. 1397725
>>1397509The spark in her eyes is like her upper lip:
Nonexistent
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No. 1397766
>>1397505Female Varg stans usually have the same kind of empty gaze.
Scares the sh*t out of me tbh.
Vargtards despise vegans, but they are anti vax, racist etc. They also like to date women who are very young, or literally groom teenagers.
Is this the generic right wing brainwashed groomed woman look? I wonder how much of it is their own mental health issues and autism and how much is the result of being groomed and gaslighted into thinking they are worthless after 25?
No. 1397768
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>>1397766Former varg stan, had a fallout with Marie cachet over a heated argument about childbirth kek, still has traditional values. Often spergs about natural birth on Twitter despite not having children of her own. Claims to be a doula.
Literally the same eyes
No. 1398076
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Did anyone see this? Anti bullying Alice making laughing at someone calling another creator the “make a wish foundation” version of her and fern because that creators child is sick and has a feeding tube. Horrible.
No. 1399189
>>1397808I have a kid nephew who has a eating disorder (from autism) where he refuses a lot of foods and has to see a nutritionist on the regular because of it. it's surprising how reversible diet fuck ups are if you take proper vitamins and get okay amounts of protein.
I'm not defending ferns eating habits but I'm hoping he'll be able to bounce back from any deficiencies he's experiencing now. Although his mom is crazy so probably not.
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Her dropping out college is nothing but cockshit. I was scrolling around her insta and found an old post about her deceased daughter she most probably got pregnant when she was at highschool. She lost her kid when she was still at HIGHSCHOOL which makes her husband more and more creepy and groomy. Timeline is messy but her being groomed is clear
No. 1400081
>>1400044She’s referring to her college graduation there, I think she dropped out right before she was supposed to graduate.
It’s incredible to me that she can’t accept the real circumstances of her daughter’s death. She got into an accident, her stomach hit the steering wheel at a really high impact, her placenta abrupted and they delivered her baby via emergency C-section. I just had my first baby and if I got into a car accident at 28 or 29 weeks, I definitely would not have been expecting my baby to make it. It is extremely tragic but she is really grasping at straws to assign blame to anyone but God at this point.
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>>1400528she posted a video about being two months late two hours ago and then a series of videos responding to comments on it
No. 1401550
>>1401458they use monoclonal antibodies, which are harvested from animals
so I guess she’ll also turn down cancer screening and treatments? they also use monoclonal antibodies. good thing she doesn’t believe vegans can get cancer!
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pregnancy confirmation?
No. 1410009
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Welllll fuck
No. 1410271
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No. 1411805
>>1408059 in of her yt videos she gave a half avocado to her bunny and someone in the comment section warned her about how dangerous and
toxic avocado is for bunnies. I will upload the comment when I will find it. But yeah bunny is probably dead and cat and dog's health is declining since she is feeding them with vegan shit. Hell she doesn't even know her dog's fucking gender I'm pretty sure she didn't take them to a goddamn vet since she is so antivax and all about ''consent''
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I wonder what she will do if fern gets tetanus and rabies. Since she has this fucked up mentality
No. 1412807
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Lmao no Alice
No. 1412930
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She said “my husband is even more pro free birth than me”
Still convinced he puts pressure on her to do it
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>>1414589she claims to be native? kekkkk both her parents are white bread
>>1414517her thin lips and beady little rat eyes do not bode well for her tradwife future
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No. 1414715
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Okay this is fucking disgusting. Her son literally eat on that floor without any plate. He will get serious infection because of her recklessness. She is not ''building'' immune system, she is risking his life
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Just found this account. She linked it on her direct.
No. 1414729
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She keeps talking about informed consent, bodily autonomy, etc but did baby fern ever give consent to get his printed t-shirts and being sold to thousands of people? Or did baby fern ever give consent to being published online to half a million people? She capitalises her own son and she will do that to her unborn baby too. She is getting out of hand. Really disgusting
No. 1414835
>>1414729uhhhh what. who the fuck would buy this. can you imagine seeing this shirt in public?
when will alice realize she is the way she is, not because she’s autistic, but because she’s retarded and narcissistic?
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The fact that she doesn’t usually wash her produce that goes directly into a dirty cart without being bagged is disgusting.
No. 1418881
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>>1418181She is indeed inside with a tent…
No. 1419179
>>1418814God this whole thing sounds horrifying. Maybe it’s just me but being pregnant and not even knowing how far along you are exactly, and what’s happening in there sounds scary as fuck.
The baby could have any number of health defects, even something super severe like anencephaly (born without parts of the brain and skull, literally a vegetable) they could be severely deformed in other ways or have DS or something. It would be freaky to birth something that could end up really deformed like that and you didn’t know for all those months. Her not taking prénatals increases the risk of anencephaly and other horrible fucked up shit too.
No. 1419542
She most probably has ''orthorexia''. It's an eating disorder basically focuses on clean eating. All organic natural, no gmo, no meat or judging other people for what they eat, spending 300+ dollars at one sitting just for organic food. She's most def has eating disorder, mostly orthorexia. And Fern looks really malnourished it shows from the way he walks. Her comment section says oh he looks healthy or chubby and happy. No. A chubby baby also can be malnourished. Her breast milk is effective till he is 6 months old the other months he needs food like real fucking food. Solid shit like meat, egg, chicken all the other things. Because of her ''veganism'' she is making herself kid sick. Like move to a place that has a mildly cold climate and that kid is fucked like really bad. He will get sick immediately since he has no vax and also because of his poor diet. She can start her videos by saying ''16 months, vegan, organic, no gmo, vaginal birth baby fern'' all she wants. She will ruin his health and development both physically and mentally at a point that it can't be fixed. And also her current pregnancy… I am extremely scared it will be like empathic_mamahood Robyn's pregnancy. This girl wanted her baby to be born BREACH. Like are you that mentally fucked that you wanted your son want to be born like a goddamn vegetable at your home? Ultrasound is just sound. No radiation, no chemicals just soundwave to check your inner organs. Oh yeah but tablet you bought for fern or the phone you give him to shut him up or none of the food you buy has any kind of radiation at all. Suck my left toe Alice. You will ruin a kid's life just for some internet clout.
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she’s really setting him up to be bullied
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>>1419552ooh are we entering the schizo gangstalking arc
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Kim, there's people that are dying.
No. 1420959
>>1419556She knows exactly what she is doing she just doesn't care. She isn't a naive young girl. She is a grown woman with a baby who sets out to instigate and hurt others for their decisions.She also has a weird teen pregnancy fetish that comes off really inappropriate. I don't think she is a good person and I don't think with age she will mature. She comes off like the perpetual
victim. First it was her family, then it was doctors and nurses, now it's people on Tiktok. She claims that if you are secure in your decisions then you won't get offended by what she says… but she seems to get really offended and pissy when women are secure in their c sections and have a strong bond with their child. She is a malicious woman in a loveless marriage who in turn developed an unhealthy codependency on her son. She wants to have another baby when she is nowhere near fit to have another child. She is incredibly neglectful to Fern and his wellbeing. I honestly hope she is just trolling with this second pregnancy and isn't actually carrying a child. I can see her being even more reckless in this pregnancy just to stick it to the haters.
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Oh no she’s kinda based, now I’m conflicted.
>>1421214>>1421641can you TikTok newfags learn to sage?
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It’s funny because she always talks about making informed decisions.
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Lmao I am laughing crying right now. Now she is shitting on Disney World because they had all junk foods that contains corn syrup and zero organic food options. And she made a "research" which company owns disney world. Lmao this girl is mental
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No. 1422896
>>1422858Sage next time if not posting new Alice milk
But yes I think it’s pretty obvious her marriage is dying
No. 1423270
>>1422975They’re in a
toxic spiral of abuse together. He drinks and plays video games all night after work. She spends all his money and is, well, this. They both are shit people and the only
victim is the kid and future kid.
No. 1423732
>>1421214I feel like she has a really bad
victim complex. It is always someone elses fault. When she gets called out she doubles down and tells the commenter they are bullying her even though her entire tiktok is bullying moms who live differently then her. I read here that someone said she is like Onion boy in how she argues and I thought it would be hilarious to see these two do one of his famous debates.
No. 1423739
>>1422975I think she is a spoiled brat with a perpetual
victim complex and doesn't like not getting her way. I also think this is coupled with the trauma she experienced with her daughter. She refused to get help for it and instead had another baby that she exploits for monetary gain. I don't know enough about Caleb to judge him whether he is
abusive or not but I see enough of her to know that she is incredibly manipulative and loves to gaslight. He seems to give her what she wants - money, babies, car, new home, he funds her insane shopping sprees. If rumours are true and she really did cause him to get fired from his last job then I can see why he would put his foot down and tell her to shut up on social media. She needs help. My concern is Fern. She has an unhealthy dependency on him and it worries me once he is able to start forming his own opinions and wanting to live his own life apart from his suffocating mom.
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She has to live in subsidized housing in AZ, no way could she ever afford California.
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Is she really paying this much to live in Arizona? Girl is getting ripped off.(lolcow.farm/info)
No. 1423859
>>1423787 sage
No, she’s in government subsodized housing. it might cost that much for other people, but she’s paying only a tiny fraction of that.
No. 1424027
>>1424012Yup! I commented to look into the owners of Great Wolf Lodge and she deleted the comment. Good luck cancelling Disney.
Also this might not mean anything but I think it’s funny that she follows every member of Caleb’s family but none of them follow her back
(cowtipping) No. 1424144
>>1424050no she's not part native lmao, but it has nothing to do with the color
I can't find any evidence that her apartment complex is subsidized/has income limits. also if y'all find links to her or her husband's family, DON'T post them. Caleb is fair game but leave their families alone.
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Our retarded queen “I do more research than doctors” Alice didn’t know gluten free bread exists. Do you think she’s ever heard of celiac disease hmmm
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>>1424219At least she got this one right by calling herself stupid
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>>1424062Yes they’re under Robert Bender and Wendy Markee Bender. They have a lot of public information about themselves on there. And my guess is they regret getting Allison that lawyer and settlement because she’s blowing it all on vegan pizza and hotel rooms for just herself
No. 1424901
>>1424815the bottles are because she brews beer at home for Caleb
post evidence
No. 1424905
>>1424845I think she’d 100% hesitate to leave him.
where else is her free ride going to come from? She not only sponges off him, but his parents too and sooner rather than later all her settlement money is going to dry up and she won’t be able to support the lifestyle she’s been pretending to have. Showing off purchases to pregnant teen strangers online is how she’s going to go broke, exactly what eventually happens to many lottery winners who don’t know how to properly manage their finances.
and i also think her ego is too big to leave Caleb because then she’d finally have to admit her entire farce of a marriage was all an act for social media likes and attention, and she’ll need to go back to working at Victorias Secret and put her kid in daycare. For all these reasons, I think she’d go to any length to hide their problems and make it look like everything is great. she has too much hubris to eat her words.
No. 1424915
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>>1424815we have no way of knowing if SHE is being abused or not, but is anyone going to talk about the mark on this kid’s ankle? It’s very obvious in her tiktok videos but she edits it out in her Instagram post. kinda suss.
No. 1424936
>>1424926THANK YOU!!! I can’t believe more people aren’t talking about this. Vegan babies get rickets. Vegan diets aren’t enough for the developing human body to sustain itself. Calcium and vitamin d in plants aren’t as bioavailability as in milk and meat. You don’t see adult vegans with rickets because they had enough nutrients from animal foods when they were babies before they decided to stop consuming them. Fern’s bones, however, are f
*ed. Poor, poor baby. Veganism is bringing back rickets, a third world problem, in places it shouldn’t be an issue. Also: no indigenous tribes were or ever have been vegan. HUMANS ARENT MEANT TO BE VEGAN from womb to tomb.
No. 1425261
>>1425228I'm wondering if she wants something to happen so she can really play into her
victim mode. She us just so wreckless with fern
No. 1425356
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>>1424915Looked back at a few videos to see how bad his leg is and fuck. The one on her alicellani account of them at great wolf lodge really shows how bad his legs are and the mark on his left leg. He was visibly limping in this video.
No. 1425464
>>1425388sorry but both the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics say a plant-based diet is suitable for babies and children. children eating a shitty Standard American Diet are more at risk of malnutrition than ones eating well-planned plant-based diets.
now, if all he eats is fruit like she claims, THAT’S a problem. no human regardless of age should be a fucking fruitarian. but this idiot worships Freelee, and she’s going to wind up hurting her baby because of it. she films everything but we never see her put together meals for him, she just squishes a piece of fruit into the couch and lets him loose.
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>>1425449The look on his face, he looks scared to ask for juice and the way she pushes it back because making her tt is more important. I believe this is really what is happening behind her phone. We already know she’s a terrible lazy wife and not so great mother. I think things are not great at home with her harassing him about not being vegan/crunchy enough and him wanting her to step up with cleaning and stop wasting money. My gut feeling they won’t get financing approved for the house and his parents won’t co-sign due to her being irresponsible and selfish with money.
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great now she can further isolate herself and her kid
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>>1425552she might even go to LA she was sharing these videos but how the hell is she going to live there with a toddler
No. 1425852
>>1425694She follows a lot of Caleb's family but none from her own side. However, through sleuthing I was able to find her sisters' social media accounts, although they are inactive. What's interesting is that I saw one of them followed an old instagram account of Alice's (which has been abandoned since 2019). This account did not follow her back.
Another interesting thing I noticed is that on that same sister's account, somebody commented on one of her posts asking about Alice and wanted to know "[her] perspective." Sister responded that she didn't know who that person (the commenter) was but wanted to continue that conversation over her DMs. This happened in mid-2020, before Alice started to become notorious on tiktok so it can't be someone from there.
No. 1425898
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idk if they have been posted yet but i found alice's fb likes and a review she left
1/3
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calebs FB likes are also hella stinky but he does like the comingupfern page, but ive scrolled thru a few posts and i havent seen him like anything
No. 1425930
>>1425905I'd rather not link any of her family's usernames considering none of them seem to condone Alice's craziness and are not in contact with her. Her sisters do not mention Alice or reference an older sister at all. I know they live in AZ. One of them is in high school and the other is in college (I think). Caleb's family mainly lives in TN or serve in the army.
>>1425907This shows that his mom is into essential oils. I remember Alice talking about how Caleb's parents "were crunchy before it was popular." or something like that when someone asked how Caleb's family thinks of her.
No. 1426022
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This could be their breaking point if she refuses to sign the lease to move into a van. Give birth in a dirty van, assuming she is pregnant. They will stink even more and probably get him fired from his job again. Now she’s concerned about money lololol
No. 1426049
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in her most recent video she says baby fern is living in her car with her now, she has her dog as well and says they drove 2 hours away and at the end of the video shows they’re setting up to sleep in the car
No. 1426059
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People are already calling her out for lying about only dumpster diving dog food for her dog. It’s a stupid and pretentious lie but I’m glad she might just regularly buy that poor dog some food.
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>>1426070She just posted a tiktok saying she's only home to grab more stuff
No. 1426092
>>1426084I wonder what’s going on. I hope not an
abusive situation if she’s trying to sneak around
No. 1426096
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Neglect at its finest because tt and her phone are more important.
No. 1426127
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Fern is clearly loving that raw vegan diet…. babies are humans too, they should enjoy the food they eat. This face tells me all I need to know about the diet he isn’t consenting to.
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>>1426609But that doesn’t even make sense. How do you abandon a contract when you’ve already signed and agreed to build and put down on lumber already!? And now all these lavish trips? Gas isn’t cheap.
I think she was lying about the house the whole time. It’s like she’s manic or something and a compulsive liar. (Tinfoil)
Check out signs of psychosis. Alice can check off quite a few.
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>>1426609How is he going to get to work?
No. 1426694
>>1426673oh right
nonnie lmao ty
No. 1426900
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>>1426812This is what Fern is looking at if he doesn’t get it corrected soon. Lots of problems as an adult. Alice will not be able to hide behind the “all babies have bowed legs” comments. Note how the pediatric diagram is almost exactly how Fern looks when he stands. CPS, come help this poor soul.
No. 1427157
This is totally a tinfoil but look at this story I found about another mom who took her kid to on a “spree” of vacation. Then she killed herself and the boy went missing.
People spiral and do crazy shit. Why do I get a bad feeling that she’s going to end up snapping like that, in some kind of way?
https://www.chicagomag.com/chicago-magazine/september-2021/what-happened-to-timmothy-pitzen/ No. 1427265
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>>1427256Just look how disgusting dirty this apartment is. The couch and his feet. Floors prob haven’t been washed in months. Gross!
No. 1427268
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This woman always comments on Alice's videos. She is extremely preachy and has this weird daughter-mom relationship with Alice and she agrees with her. Like whenever someone comments about really logical thing like Fern's privacy she get extremely defensive. Alice sent this question to her when she was traveling with Fern alone. Her name is Shannon aka veganmumu. Extremely preachy, extremely toxic
No. 1427277
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Just so fucking bizarre I know this isn't her thread but you are 40 fucking something and like being obsessed with some psycho exploits her own baby and invalidating his privacy. Are all the vegans are like this cause her tiktok account is toxic as shit.
No. 1427283
>>1427277I used to get into it with her; she digs her heels ALL the way in. And has a creepy obsession. I’ve been off tiktok for 6 months and she’s STILL at it!!!
Alice is in some kind of psychosis or bipolar episode. She’s snapping, or she’s trying to get sympathy to start a go fund me or something. I really wanna believe this is all just a joke. Can we assume she doesn’t have health insurance for herself or the boy? Why put the extra risk of shortening both your lifespans living like that? How selfish. (Tinfoil)
Can you imagine that vegan mom coming on here and freaking out when she sees herself has Alice ever addressed this?
(don't use emojis/emoticons) No. 1427319
>>1427302no one said he wasn't
and sage your shit. i can't stand all these newfags from tiktok
No. 1427393
>>1427387When commenting on this thread you need to type
“Sage”
In the e-mail field to protect the thread
No. 1427451
>>1427433Agree can someone ban? They're just not doing it.
Think she consulted her husband before deciding that she and Fern are traveling full-time? Or is mommababy the one with all final say on parenting decisions?
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Why are ALL her comments positive…
No. 1427832
>>1427742 I think she’s not pregnant but I also don’t think she lost her period or her milk. I think she’s bullshittin.
if she IS pregnant, she’s definitely already peed on a stick by now. she knows whether she is or isn’t, she’s either lying about not taking a test, or lying about her “symptoms” or both.
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>>1427770Alice simps are next level retarded
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Wtfffff. People are tagging breanne in the comments and she keeps deleting or blocked breanne so she can’t be tagged anymore. Breanne deserves the opportunity to come back at her. Alice is coward who likes to stir up shit. Alice also looks high af!
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Shaggy made an appearance lmfao
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Absolutely cannot fucking wait for Alice’s mommy blogwhore arc. This bitch looks like Tina Belcher.
No. 1428634
>>1428354I genuinely hope the uproar for this becomes overwhelming for Alice and she won't be able to delete or be on top of all the comments calling her out. She bullies people left and right for THEIR decisions but runs and hides when people call her out.
Girl your floors are disgusting and your son eats off your couch that probably has your ass juices on it. Invest your time in properly cleaning your home and you won't have time to be in everyones business.
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I try not to make fun of people’s teeth because of how hard it can be to get dental care but this bitch is WILLINGLY “washing” her teeth with bar soap and look how yellow they look. i’m so worried for Fern’s teeth
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ffffff disgusting
No. 1428928
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>they will probably censor this now that I'm bringing attention to it
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>>1428948That girl Allison idolises cow “Zoe Durant” aka xozoezxo on Instagram has posted some VERY transphobic shit. (Sept 8) And Allison comments “🔥” so do with that information what you will.
No. 1429232
>>1428957Unrelated but there’s also a cat litter box SOMEWHERE in the small, already filthy apartment. I just KNOW it is reeks, bc there’s no way she’s scooping that.
Also for an animal lover, she sure is fine leaving her cat behind on this new van life.
Okay back ti regularly schedule business…
She thinks she can live and sustain herself on just social media, but I don’t see her getting any “bigger” fame wise. Her YouTube is a flop but her insta gets more traction so she wishes it counted for something instead of using it as a fun picture app to document and share moments. Is she literally posting just for strangers bc it sounds like she’s alienated all her friends and family. And don’t tell me fern is in playgroups regularly, bc his speech is not progressing. Your 18-month-old should be using at least 20 words of different kinds, like nouns, verbs, prepositions, adjectives, and social words, like “hi” and “bye”. Also listed: Brings an object from another room when asked (follows 1-part directions)
Sings simple songs
Mixes real words and jargon
Now she only shows us snippets, I tried to think that. But she would be the first one to brag about his accomplishments, as breastfed baby’s and vegans and the unvaccinated turn out to be baby geniuses without autism. All of them. (Sarcasm)
If anything she’s dwindling in relevance. I give it another year before we are all coming back to this thread like “oh I forgot about her, wonder where she is now?”
She’s sick of the life she told Caleb she wanted and think about how unfair that is for him. He is holding up his part but she’s certainly not holding up for her agreement they made of her being a home maker.
I admit she had a cute setup for ferns birthday and lots of trees for Christmas, but where did that effort go, even for light housekeeping (as we can see the state of her floors.)
And why had she been throwing money around and talking about how much she spends all the time? Did fern really need TWO cars? What’s the update on unschooling, bc certainly fern should be getting some structured stimulation. Their brains are like sponges rn and he’s he will behind and it’s going to be more difficult for him to catch up when he’s older. She is setting him up for failure and he’s only, what? 18-19 months? Or is he younger?
(All of this is basically tinfoil speculation, but I wonder how accurate it will be in a few years,
No. 1429239
>>1429221It’s so odd though because fern is why everyone is there? And now she’s trying to rebrand every few weeks and it’s so weird and not working and I think she’s panicking. I wanna believe that because the alternative is her ACTUALLY going off the deep end.
People asked for more day in the life’s of baby fern and more cooking recipes and she rarely incorporates those in comparison to the other “reply” and shaming videos. Is she just gonna discard and ignore fern now? Half the time it’s not even true, she lies all the time and is such a hypocrite.
A few really bad examples:
She dumpster dives; but when telling her birth story she said she threw her placenta into their apartment garbage “even though people dumpster dive in there” and then she laughed. (I will try and find the video, there’s a lot to sift through!)
(biological waste is not meant for the garbage) imagine the freaks who would collect those if that’s where they put kidneys, hearts etc.
And also when someone brought up having to replace the couch someday and how expensive they are now a days. And how a plate or high chair could easily add years onto their couches life. She did a video reply “if you’re broke just say that” UM WHAT MRS PUBLIC ASSISTANCE AND DUMPSTER DIVER!
(Not making fun of either of those things; I am on assistance too. And dumpster diving is a great way to reduce waste) but it’s the blatant disrespect to the commenter who wasn’t being mean at all compared to others in the comments.
And her few weird stans who provide her with questions she loves answering in a controversial way.
I’m absorbed in it all don’t judge me lol
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The look of wtf was that. She’s going to start drinking immunity shots bc someone else does, what a sheep. Bet she makes fern keep drinking them.
No. 1429307
>>1429299That’s the thing, she doesn’t explain things to him. Explaining opens up the possibility of him saying no. Exactly what she accuses her parents of doing which created a “
toxic environment” for her, if it was a
toxic environment for her then it’s a
toxic environment for fern too.
No. 1429496
>>1429486She will cover the dates on the shopping receipts so who knows if it’s actually
valid.
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She is definitely reading this thread because now she’s trying to trannypander
No. 1431029
>>1430973We are watching an ensuing eruption. I feel bad to say this but I’m breaking out the popcorn. Shits gonna get weird OR she’s gonna disappear entirely off the internet.
It’s like she’s TRYING to get kidnapped or assaulted by putting her self and fern out there like this. Being reckless with both their lives, it’s terrible. Something really bad is gonna happen I can just see it, but I hope I’m wrong :(
Where do you guys see this going?? And what happened to the house she’s building (allegedly)
No. 1431056
>>1431029Yes, shes putting them in very dangerous situations. I genuinely dont know why she thinks its a good idea to travel alone with him. What is going on in her head??? Its scary
>>1431035Yeah that kid is not gonna learn a single thing while unschooling, I feel so bad for him. How are you going to prepare yourself for anything in life with 0 structure?
No. 1431137
>>1430973in her latest tik-tok she reckons his life is “pReTtY CrAzY”…. and then they go to the mall and eat sushi. um…. that’s what she considers crazy? Ok.
Things many people have done by 18 mos of age that Fern has never done:
(Actually) swim in the ocean
Have a passport
travel outside the country
travel by rail
go on a boat
Have play date with the same group of friends more than once
Make art/ use paints etc
Allison doesn’t have a single mom friend willing for themselves or their kid to be shown playing with them. Most people make tik-toks with friends. Not Alice.
honestly his life is really boring and nowhere near as interesting as Allison thinks it is kek
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Her teeth are more disgusting than my 80 year old grandmas natural teeth
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>>1431651 >>1431625I hope she’s faking for views but she’s also crazy enough to actually have a baby for more attention. She believes women are infertile by their late 20’s so at the very least she’s probably trying to get pregnant. In this video from the 17th it honestly looks like she could be early on in a pregnancy, it could also just be her purposely pushing her stomach out or bloating though, so who knows.
No. 1432128
>>1432094I get the sense that they are really on the outs. She is never home, and she deletes all comments that ask about how he feels about her constantly being away.
She used to be pretty into her home life, making meals and talking about being a housewife, but now she doesn’t even pretend to do anything for him.
She eats out every single meal now, which is also suspicious considering how much money she is spending at the grocery store.
I would feel bad for the man, but he deserves it for grooming a 14 year old. I wonder why his rich daddy hasn’t stepped in.
(sage) No. 1433303
>>1433252New threads start after 1200 replies, this one only has 880. The milk is just slow rn
>>1433292Please type sage in the email field if you don’t have anything milky to contribute.
No. 1433311
>>1433300Sigh a simple Google search shows that many cases of rickets can be resolved with calcium and vitamin D supplements… Such a simple and available fix to a problem she CAUSED. But of course she's probably going to try to feed her poor baby a ton of oranges and then take him out to get sunburnt sans sun protection. This poor, sweet little boy…
It just hit me that Fern is probably not going to be taught to read/write, basic math or science, or anything practical really. Just conspiracy theories. Alice is making him so very dependent on her, her, her. I hope his grandparents can step in and do ANYTHING to help the poor little dude out
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wow ferns “dad” cant even get off his phone to play with his son, it’s sad they think just their presence with no interaction will build some sort of bond with this lonely kid
No. 1433320
>>1433312I also noticed fern is in some kind of character or word printed tshirt which Alice had talked down about those kinds of clothes. But decided now that he’s not a baby she doesn’t care to dress him in cute outfits anymore.
He’s sleeping less and less during the day so I’m sure she’s tired and overwhelmed. And apparently selfish to shop for her self and not for him. It was probably a Christmas gift from when the family was over. All of this speculation of course. But I feel there’s so much beneath the surface we haven’t even begun to scratch.
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>>1433311His grandparents can’t possibly watch this and think his legs are healthy looking
No. 1433323
>>1433311He’s going to grow up to be a fat greasy gamer living in his room. I say fat bc once he gets a taste of fast food he will be out of control from being deprived and not taught how to regulate choices.
She will find someone to diagnose him with autism and her excuse not to teach him but also won’t get any development assistance, only financial assistance.
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>>1433311vitamin d you say?
No. 1433355
>>1433341The hip issues could’ve come from improper baby wearing too.
Does anyone else notice she never has sponsers either? Nobody wants to associate with her B.S. … I think ONCE she did a diaper one even though she was supposedly cloth diapering (can’t keep up). And that’s how most influencers make their money, not so much views/likes/follows (maybe I’m wrong though)
No. 1433357
>>1433312I have never seen him interact with him, although I feel like she doesn't let him have much say and is quite controlling.
Also I've noticed he's had dark bags under his eyes in a few videos recently. Just slowly starting to look malnourished and signs are becoming more obvious as he gets older
No. 1433421
>>1433404ACCURATE. she even referenced the “posh 30 year old moms with uppababy strollers” in a video where she was driving to a shopping district. During the day, she frequents these shopping places apparently populated by older mothers in their thirties who have partners with well-paying jobs. She tries to be like them but when she realizes she never will (not even when she’s their age) she goes home and makes tik-toks hating on them and telling them their value has decreased (because she is jealous) without considering how absolutely stupidly envious she sounds.
She didn’t have that stroller when fern was born. She bought it when he turned one. so my theory is when that supposed “settlement” check hit, that was the first thing she bought… whereas the moms she’s trying to be like bought them before their babies are even born.
No. 1433441
>>1433421Right and just wanna say, it's totally fine to want expensive stuff, to splurge, etc. Who can really say they've always been perfect with money down to the individual transaction? Buy the UPPAbaby stroller if it makes you happy girl.
It's the moving goal posts and hypocrisy (with the Disney tickets, stroller, fast fashion, iphones, acrylic nails) + the endless shaming of others that make this girls consumption unbearable to watch
No. 1433649
>>1433358>>1433358IVE NOTICED THE FULL DIAPERS TOO!!!!
(Omg I almost forgot to sage lol)
No. 1433751
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Her dogs haircut is awful. I’m scared for Pancake. It eats dumpster food and I’ve never seen Alice use a leash.
No. 1433987
>>1433968I vaguely remember hearing that it was released on tt a long time ago but it got deleted eventually. Alice once posted it but had A LOT of parts censored.
Also, Ive noticed that none of her videos reference her daughter. When she first started out, she always incorporated her daughter's death/car accident every now and then.
No. 1434068
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His legs/hips look SO bad omg. How does Alice think this is normal
No. 1434409
>>1434401I have asked her multiple times if he is speaking yet, and she deletes my comments, so it’s safe to say he doesn’t speak at all. I agree that the walking and the language could be tied to autism.
I pray that Fern is just walking weirdly because babies are all kinda bowlegged when they’re small, but it seems more serious than that.
If he has autism, I don’t think Alice is going to take care of him properly. She has a lot of internalized hatred. She wanted a perfect, ~normal~ baby so she could prove that all of her problems were actually due to her parents’ abuse (by making her eat meat, lol).
No. 1434422
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Wtf, is she talking about shooting porn? She can’t be prego if she’s wanting to shoot porn. Or she’s getting desperate for content to up her views. Yes this is a sign she’s fucking insane!
No. 1434449
>>1434422Yes, she constantly talks about how she wants to be a sex worker and do OF. She is saying that she wanted to ask another sex worker to shoot OF content with her. It’s unclear if she is actually serious about doing OF or if she is just trying to stir up controversy for views.
I think they are going broke, and she needs the money to fund her ridiculous spending, so I wouldn’t put it past her to actually try this. It’s just crazy because she calls herself a radical feminist, and radfems are against sex work???
Also, she is most likely lying about her pregnancy, and if she isn’t, that’s not gonna stop her from doing OF. Lots of people have a kink for pregnant women. She’ll just be starting the exploitation of this kid before its birth.
No. 1434473
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>complains about it being cold
>has the ceiling fan on
>doesn’t wear shoes or socks
i wouldn’t be surprised if she can’t afford the heat bill at this point lol
No. 1434507
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I posted a thread on prospering grounds about Alice
Thread 'Alice Bender / comingupfern / alicellanispam / alicellani'
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/alice-bender-comingupfern-alicellanispam-alicellani.111709/ No. 1434582
>>1434574There's no way to tell. She may have left Fern with his low value father so she could have time alone. Nothing inherently wrong there.
I think the most shocking thing is that she got her poor kid to fall asleep somewhere other than a carseat.
No. 1434921
>>1434908Anyone wondering about the whole house and wood purchase and if that was just entirely fabricated too?
How is she gonna do consistent OF content living in a car? Where is baby fern going to go while she’s doing this? I am so confused
No. 1434929
>>1434921She will probably go into a disgusting gas station bathroom and create content in there. Seems to be her style.
I am curious about the house too. Isn’t it almost time for them to move in? I remember last year she was saying it would take 6-9 months to build and now we are hearing nothing about it.
No. 1434965
>>1434929She said they haven’t started building the house yet but that they don’t want to back out of it because the value of the build went up……..
She also said they renewed their lease for another year, so she will be in that apartment for the next year at least.
No. 1435109
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How can a mom sit there and watch an almost 18 month old has an extreme waddle when he walks and grunts to speak and not think something isn’t quite right? A milestone is established when the 90th percentile has reached the mark. His poor legs are so bad, it’s heart breaking to see.
No. 1435118
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I used to think that Fern was bow-legged in the same normal way that a lot of toddlers are, but there’s no way this is normal.
No. 1435186
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>>1435109considering THIS is how she feeds the kid <vomit emoji> I would almost expect her to neglect all other areas of his care and wellbeing
No. 1435214
>>1435177She’s a compulsive liar who self diagnosed herself to avoid criticism, citing getting vaccinated as a child as the cause.
We can’t speculate it’s autism causing his cognitive delays when he’s not being fed anything a child his age desperately needs, being isolated from family and society, not sleeping, the trauma of an unstable mother, ect. His physical health is awful, of course his cognition is as well. Alice would love for people to think it’s autism and not pure neglect.
No. 1435233
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She’s spiralling again. Always starts with the makeup, attacking or exposing a family member and cryptic TikTok’s.
No. 1435274
>>1435258It's annoying she pretends she already knew better anyway after repeatedly fucking up and being told by hundreds of people what she's doing wrong and blocking them
>>1435261Yeah I've suspected she does stuff like that, she's dumping alot of posts everyday recently
No. 1435282
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>>1435276Found it
At least be consistent with your lies, Allison.
No. 1435298
>>1435285Hopefully if he does have hip dysplasia it’s childhood hip dysplasia and is corrected, while it’s true babies are now legged to some extent it’s definitely not to this extreme.
If she’s not careful ferns going to grow up with chronic hip and leg problems, that’ll develop into chronic pain and ruin his life
No. 1435316
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>>1435282This is rich considering this is the outfit I saw her out in. Nothing wrong with it but don't say you always have to cover up bc of your ~aUTisM~
No. 1435318
>>1435304also it does not matter if he's getting alot of sun. when your vegan your body's ph is more alkaline and that messes up nutrition absorption.
plus her milk probably does not contain enough calcium for fern and calcium from plants is not as bio available. i can go on and on but you get the point
No. 1435330
>>1435317Well planned being key. It is hypothetically possible to be raised on a perfectly adequate vegan diet, and I’m sure many people do pull it off, but the type of pseudoscientific, cultlike approach to veganism the parents like Alice pursue only leads to poor health as demonstrated by countless “influencers” having to bail out of their orthorexic bullshit diets after a few years because, big shocker, they get sick. This phenomenon is well documented on the Unnatural Vegan YouTube channel. I am a former vegan and I also have coeliac disease, I don’t think people realize how easy it is to dip into nutritional deficiency when you remove a few things from your diet. The fact that I can’t eat any food with gluten in it means that I miss out on the vast majority of fortified foods because most fortified foods contain fortified wheat flour. When I was vegan and I went out of my way to source as much fortified food as possible, but those foods were often very processed and not always organic. I live with chronic low iron and low vitamin D even well supplementing, it’s just not well absorbed but I stay on top of it.
Alice eats very little to no processed foods, she does not take supplements, she is so retarded that she thought that she could exclusively breast-feed fern until he was four years old without introducing solids (when he started grabbing at her food at around six months and trying to stuff it in his face she gave in because she didn’t want to be “mean,” not because she recognized he needed the nutrition) extended breast-feeding alone will not lead to nutritional deficiencies, but extended breast-feeding that overshadows proper nutrition from solids past the age of one, not introducing vitamin D fortified milk/milk alternatives or breastfeeding so often that you child never has a chance to absorb iron (calcium containing foods should not be served within two hours of iron containing foods if you want them to absorb it) can lead to deficiencies.
Again, the issue with Alice is that she has taken all of her nutritional information from idiots like Food Babe and Freelee who focus mostly on what you “should NOT” eat instead of what you should eat.
No. 1435333
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>>1435316Before she started dating Caleb she was just your average basic bitch thot who worked at Victoria Secret. So much of her pathology can be explained by the fact that she was an ugly Muppet of a child who was desperately envious of her peers and thirsted for male attention. She has hinted before at her mother being jealous of her father giving her sexual attention, whether or not that is true or if it’s just something that she believes is true, she has major mommydaddy issues combined with being an ugly duckling, so it’s really just a matter of time before she is selling butthole pics on only fans. She could rival Shaygnar in how disgusting and decrepit her nudes would be.
No. 1435339
>>1435330I completely agree, it can be done but Alice isn't doing it. I'm not coeliac but have been vegan since 2015, although I avoid gluten and added sugar as much as I can because I have an autoimmune disorder and find it gives me flare ups. (I've had it since before I was vegan before ppl throw more pseudoscience my way.) Tbh I haven't found it difficult to keep my nutrient levels up with supplementation and eating diverse food groups but I can understand how difficult it can be for other people.
Big red flag with extended breastfeeding is thinking kids don't need solid food alongside it
No. 1435353
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apparently this is caleb's dad
No. 1435366
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10206113561452420&set=pb.1064344487.-2207520000..
Definitely see Fern in this. Sad he became a groomer, his karma was marrying a narcissist
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Resemblance is remarkable
No. 1435492
>>1435232>>1435316 Was she wearing shoes at least? Lol
Her hair is shorter than i expected
No. 1435496
>>1435359Can you post the dads post??
I wish we could contact the go fund me starter and get a sneaky link into their ACTUAL situation. Not whatever illusion Alice is creating.
No. 1435506
>>1435471Apparently Alice was high behind the wheel at the time of the accident. That would explain why she didn’t want to go to the hospital, pre-crunchy-crazy. Caleb is a stoner, it would make sense that his dad would have that opinion.
I wonder why Alice chose to marry her groomer, too. Was it just another way to stick it to her parents, or does she like having blackmail she can use over Caleb to control him?
No. 1435512
>>1435506she first said the accident caused her death, then the C-section,
then the vitamin K shot
where did the settlement come from? who did she sue?
No. 1435522
>>1435514yup, they'd have run a
toxic panel especially because she went under anaesthesia but I don't think they'd have reported her
No. 1435529
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Still pretending she’s pregnant with baby 2.
No. 1435852
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She definitely believes in 5G since she posted this on Instagram. She will let go of that microwave but there’s no way she will let go of her phone.
No. 1435858
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Someone called her out on still using her phone, but I bet she’ll delete this comment, she already blocked off comments on the Instagram post.
No. 1435933
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>>1435592Funny because she projected on Raquel saying she probably had a baby not make it and that's why she's so vocal when Raquel calls her out on her shitty birthing views
No. 1436021
>>1435951not a mom either, but a lot of other moms used to call her out for improper baby wearing.
Improper baby wearing could also explain his hip/leg issues, using a quick internet search.
No. 1436043
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someone commented her bump went away as soon as she started moving lol
No. 1436044
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No. 1436045
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she literally looks 9 months pregnant here. could be fake? like she stuffed sth in her shirt
No. 1436048
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samefag
No. 1436093
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That’s a bummer
No. 1436106
>>1436029Who made the one we are using now!? And how do you even make a new one? I don’t have the time to mod or make sure everyone “sages” or id do it.
I can try though.
No. 1436151
>>1436106You do not need to model or make sure everyone else sages, that’s for the actual mod team to do. Here are the rules
https://lolcow.farm/rulesWhoever makes the new thread just needs to make sure there’s a good thread pic and that the green text summarizes the cow any new revelations on this thread
No. 1436176
Created a new thread -
>>>/snow/1436174Let’s continue posting here
Thank me later!
No. 1436658
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Made a thread pic but I guess we don’t need one. Enjoy anyways.
No. 1436671
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Is she aware of how incredibly stupid “eyeliner freckles” look? All of her makeup looks suck. No one’s jealous, trust. We enjoy seeing herself make a fool out of herself, you look like a clown, Allison.
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>>1436671Bahahaha knew she was hopping on here
No. 1436709
>>1436703What?? The tiktok you posted in
>>1436693 is the same Tiktok from
>>1436671 it wasn’t posted shorty after, it’s literally the same video.
No. 1436733
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those TEETH tho. gag. between her ears and the teeth, I’m shocked her priority is eyeliner freckles.
No. 1436789
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I’m just baffled as to why she thinks this is a flex
No. 1436881
>>1436789You know what I’m really confused is, she could be making amazing content about dumpster diving and thrifting everything they will need to fill their new house. Get a rent-a-space to store it. People would love that and it’s content she’s already made in the past. I just don’t get it.
What do we think is actually happening here? I think there never was a house being built.
Something tells me that Caleb alone can’t qualify to renew the lease so he needed Allison and her $$ settlement cash $$ there.
I personally don’t think she’s pregnant git maybe she’s heavily manifesting it, in this weird way.
How do either of them wanna have sex together? I could see before, but now!?!
And it makes me sad she tried to “shame” Caleb for using scented soap. Maybe he reads all this shit about himself too and is self conscious and she’s a real bitch for being mean to him for trying to improve his self esteem.
No. 1436883
>>1436789This one is definitely fishing for comments. At least fern can make his own breakfast: sleep-sweat mashed potato chips into bacteria ridden sheets that have been changed in months. No wonder fern is so under developed. He probably has brain mites.
Read this:
https://www.businessinsider.com/bed-how-often-should-wash-sheets-dust-mites-fungi-bacteria-2019-5?amp No. 1436895
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>>1436881Speculative tinfoil, Alice the so-called sKiNnY QuEeN has starved herself to the point that she has lost her period, and is knowingly pretending to be pregnant because she and Caleb are on the rocks for reals and she thinks a bandaid baby will allow her to keep her dependent lifestyle. Me thinks he won’t stick around providing for crazy forever if she only has one kid. Fern needs a sibling if she wants to effectively baby trap him. Plus it’s good content for Tiktok.That’s why she’s so defensive about the comments about the bump disappearing, and why she won’t take a test to confirm she’s actually pregnant.
Their relationship seems to be
toxic and loveless, I saw the vids shaming him for using shampoo too. She’s obviously so unhappy, and misery loves company. He deserves her for being a gross groomer and she deserves him for the negligent way she’s choosing to raise Fern.
No. 1436901
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Have you seen this video? It reminds me of the sad whales preforming at seaworld. Exploited for profit and neglected.
Do you think there’s vegan candies and moms titties off camera?
She’s fucking disgusting.
No. 1436937
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he's filthy also he barely can say no. she's so excited her almost 2 yearold toddler can say one word
No. 1436941
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Eww so gross. Are vegans really this lazy?
No. 1437165
>>1436937She is clearly reading what people say, also, because she is determined to prove that Fern can speak.
He is 18 months old, and the only thing he can say is, “No,” and he is only repeating what she says. Jesus.