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The latest alt cows thread, for all the attention seekers, grifters, and other assorted idiots in the alternative community.
Most recent cows:
Jake & Kaya (Toxic
The Witchy Goths
Of Herbs and Altars (Dorian)
Avelina de Moray (Megan Blume)
…and other cows who are discussed but not necessarily producing significant or frequent milk
Recap of last thread:
>Kaya and Jake move into new house; anons speculate how they have money for 2 bikes, 2 cars, however many unused studios + renting their new house>Jake spending Christmas with female they/them bandmate, going on a road trip across America with her while Kaya stays with a sick family member>Jake might start an OF, has been hanging out with Jude Bishop, according to an anon said on his stream he was going to "invite her over to play games">Jake releases a statement saying he & Kaya are totally not breaking up or anything though!>IBF gives birth, names daughter Severine, probably after Snape>Someone posts screenshots of a convo with Ruadhan; Angela posts on her IG about how she knows who this is, a woman who pretended to be her friend and had a YT channel as a spiritual yogi>an anon (possibly Ruadhan) calls her out as Renee, prompting important questions such as "who the fuck is Renee?">Ruadhan most likely selfposting in the last thread, writing a massive wall of text that has yet to be fully read by human eyes>Anons discuss whether Angela is milky or not>Dorian still on her ED schtick>Mara (Psychara) still fucking up her hair for content
>beware of racebait from lost nazis and derailing, overly zealous whiteknights looking to score points with their sacred cow(s)>no1curr about what is or isn’t goth or who is or isn’t goth, we have this fucking discussion every goddamn thread and it is getting annoying>farmers are free to use the TT thread at their discretion as it was created to stop the sperging/infighting in the main altcows discussion from the TT spammers.
Last thread >>>/snow/1290933
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How has this woman not gone blind from an eye infection yet? Jesus christ. They let her poke holes in people for a living.>>1384923
She looks like a troon here. Wonder if that's what Adam likes about her.
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Maybe store it properly instead of throwing it on your musty hoard pile?
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Does anybody know why mai deleted all her videos?
she may have made them patreon exclusive, so you could only access them if they had the direct link
she's also said before that she dislikes making videos and doesn't feel comfortable in them, and only did them to try to keep up with the way media was going before deciding it wasn't a good fit for her. so maybe she felt more comfortable just removing them
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Kaya mother .
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Cw, Adam posting his bare ass in a completely heterosexual, no homo way. At some point you got the full asshole of this asshole, but I'm not sitting through that again to get a screenshot.
Real manly men bark like a seal before jumping into the water and squealing like a little bitch.
Nta but we've seen her mum before. She has been in Kaya's videos before and someone in a much older thread someone posted old modeling photos of her. Don't remember which thread though, it was years ago.>>1385785
I agree. She's just tall but doesn't look like a man to me. Anons have an obsession with calling her trans because she's tall, it's weird.
She looks like she tried on her teenage daughter's dress for a challenge.
She's a big woman (not fat or manly) this style looks cute in gamine bodies. If Kaya ever grows ovaries and finds her path, her goff style (that suits her) could take her from overgrown toddler to statuesque goddess, even age won't stop her. I would fully take advantage of that, ffs.
Feminine? It's not about height, i'm the same height as Kaya but she has massive shoulders, hands and feet even for her height, even without makeup she looks pretty trans.
I mean look at >>1385508
and the size difference between her wide shoulders to her boobs and hips. It's a masculine body shape.
I think you need to head over to the mtf thread and see male bodies. Kaya is just fat. Her shoulders maybe wide from being day but they sure as fuck don’t look like men shoulders.
But seriously, fuck off over to the mtf thread and throw a tantrum over there
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Well, I didn't assume he was until you mentioned it…
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Her proportions are not nearly as mannish as what you're acting like, real troon for reference. Her hips are also way too wide to ever be a troon. Your obsession about this is really strange.
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As if she doesn't already have all those symptoms lmao. Oh and she wasn't willing to take her ADHD medication for similar reasons either.
I was on sertraline for a while and it changed my life positively. Had to go off because I lost my insurance and had the worst withdrawals ever. Would kill to go back on it again. But of course this bitch will keep whining about how bad her mental health is and do jack shit about it.
This annoys me people who think tablets can cause weight gain no. It’s the food you put in your mouth that causes weight gain. You won’t gain weight unless you eat. Stop blaming medication.
Tablets make you feel better, not gain weight. Your eating more cause your body feels better (example:less nausea) the reason why she gained weight was because they wouldn’t eat her and jake made a video years ago saying they would rather buy clothes then eat at points in there lives that why they were so skinny. So of course if you start finally eating your going get bigger. Not the medication fault.
The most annoying thing about kaya is she won’t even try it frustrating because I want to see her be happy and better herself but putting shit like this on her platform very damaging to all the impressionable people who follow her who might back out in getting mental heath help or tablets cause of she had a bad experience (finally eating normally and gaining weight) she shouldn’t off put this as a story should of kept it to herself. She clearly reached out for help and been offered tablets so why won’t she take the biggest step that can help her feel better
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It’s the audacity that she openly talks about having ADHD, but doesn’t acknowledge the clinical impact that ADHD can have on antidepressants (SSRIs are largely ineffective in people with it), and has never backed down from her anti-antidepressant tirade in the past 5 years, despite having an impressionable and probably mentally ill audience.
I can believe she had a horrible experience on one SSRI, but every post she’s made about it since then has been nothing but ana-chan. It just go happened that her desperately needed attempt at taking meds clashed with her reaching an age where people naturally gain weight, and she was eating loads of sugary crap and not exercising.
This girl needs to move tf on from her 18 year old body and from the one bad meds experience she had 5+ years ago. She NEEDED antidepressants at the time (and made several vlogs about begging her doc for meds because she was so depressed), and the ONE she tried didn’t work. It’s time to move on, jfc.
nta, but was she ever on an antipsychotic? I thought she just took an antidepressant.. I want to say the original one she took that supposedly made her gain weight was prozac, but don't quote me on that. she made a video about her weight gain a few years ago, she seems to have taken it down because I can't find it.
in other news, their "metal ass gaming" patreon is still up despite not having uploaded anything on that channel for 2 years. and they still have 8 patrons.
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This was her posting in 2015.
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Also confirming this.
Nah, its a well known fact that they cant make you gain weight, they only make you hungry. If you gain weight its because you're eating more.
Stop spreading BS to cope with your weight gain.
Kaya is fat because she's lazy and eats like crap, not because of meds.
NTA but when I started my antidepressants (citalopram) my GP explicitly warned me about the risk of weight gain. Fortunately it didn't happen for me, but different people have different reactions. Weight gain is stated as an explicit side-effect in the information you get with most antidepressants.
That is not to say that Kaya's weight is the result of her medication rather than her diet and laziness. Or that the risk of weight gain shoauld keep people from using the medication they need. But please stop using anecdotal evidence. Certain antidepressants can make weight gain more likely, both because they affect your metabolism, and your energy levels. There's no point in denyinv that.
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Dorian apologizes for using a racial slur in a 2018 video
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Singing along to a rapsong that had the N-slur in it
It was in the context of one of her "pc culture is bad" rants. Which she seems to think makes it better, but it doesn't. At least she seems to feel genuinly sorry. But it was still a dumb thing to do.
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Looks like Dorian deleted her insta
Apologising and taking accountability>>1389235
Within hours deletes instagram to avoid accountability. Good job
In principle, it's irrational to get upset at words themselves- but then the racism behind the bad words was even less rational, and it happened, like it or not.
Still though, it doesnt mean it's not fucking exhausting for everyone to constantly have to partake in the "avoid bad words" acrobatics, especially when the list gets updated so often and activists can't even agree among themselves.
Dorian, if you're reading this, I hope you feel better. Saying a word doesn't intrinsically make someone good or bad, and hingeing the entire morality of someone on whether they simply speak PC or not above considering their actions and intent is performative BS anyway.
The history justifying the hurt can't be changed. I think everyone privately does tire of the pressure of using "correct terms". That's why we come onto lolcow LOL, nobody here gives a shit about the facade of PC terms, and it's weirdly such a breath of fresh air to come in as an autist myself and see "sperg" being flung everywhere.
People lose their shit over the slightest inferred misreading of something these days, it's not a culture where you can highlight use of the n-word and say my bad, please forgive
you're just painting a target on your back for bored trolls who don't even follow you, which is I'm sure exactly what happened.
She would have been better off privating the video if it was still public and writing a vague statement about "learning and growing"
Give trolls attention and they will pay it back tenfold, the only way to win is to ignore it.
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The safe space bullshit is about a video on edtwt that was privated (picrel). I think people are more upset that Dorian is a hypocrite (saying that pro ana forums were good while edtwt is bad even though it’s the same cesspool but on different platforms) rather than their uwu safe spwace being “exposed”.
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and the two things are connected, in that the n word video was posted by an edtwt user (see picrel) in response to dorian's video on edtwt. maybe that's obvious but i thought worth putting it here.
Its so easy to just not use the word. Even within the context of the clip.
However she litterally says in the clip being used. The word being uncomfortable to her within the song then says it 3 times. Which is strange on her part. You cant state that you find the word so uncomfortable that hearing it in music. Is upsetting to you then say it 3 times. It was a bad look for her.
When it comes to other words it really depends on where you life. Like with fag. In the uk its not really a gay slur like poof. Its a cigarette. Vs america where it is.
Sage for derail but she's right. The culture is different. The forums are better moderated these days. You can't even post meanspo on mpa anymore but you can tell someone on edtwt to rope and all you get is edgelord points. edtwt is no uwu safespace, it's just a decentralized echo chamber for unchecked mental illness like Tumblr was 10 years ago and LiveJournal was before it. Forums may still be echo chambers but they have more control over what gets posted so the more harmful shit doesn't go unchecked the same way it does on twitter. I can't speak for all forums obv, but the bigger ones are more focused on harm reduction than pushing each other to make themselves as sick as possible to collect followers
TL;DR edtwt is cancer. Tiktok too
Yeah. That's exhausting. Imagine how exhausting it is to have those words used against you all the time.
I think what doesn't help dorian's case is that she has a history of saying fucked up shit. Like her "female privilege" video. Or her claim that gypsy isn't a slur because her romani ex used to use it for positive attention. Which is the most "I have a black friend who says I'm cool" you can get.
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That's Kaya. Always working super hard at hyperfocus levels.
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Exactly. The problem isn't that she made a mistake, the problem is that she doubled down and got defensive
Though this does not apply to her use of the N-word. Everybody knows that's a slur. And if she wanted a discussion about it, she could have just said "the n-word" and everybody would have known what she meant. Saying it was unnecessary. And if she was just saying it to be an edgelord and "prove a point" she has no right to be upset that people are calling her out for it. If you go out of your way to stir up shit, you shouldn't act so hurt when shit gets stirred.
>>1390395>Dorian: "Lolita has a lot of rules that I read about but actively chose to ignore."
Lolitas get mad at Dorian.
>"why are all these lolitas so mean to me?"
>Dorian: "People get really upset when you say the nword."
Says the Nword.
People are upset.
>why are all these people so angry? There was context (me really wanting to say the nword)' and I was high!
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She made a new account. Prepare for screengrab dump.
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I mean, she's basically a wannarexic. She tries so hard to remain relevant to the ED community and then purposefully tried to trigger
herself into relapse. She thinks having an ED makes her special so she can't give it up.
I think at first it offered her an explanation for her extreme executive dysfunction, a lot of us here thought the diagnosis would kick her into gear, but now its become an excuse. These stories do feel aimed at someone or something like big time. >>1390393
This is straight up not true lmao where are you getting this info? Travellers might call themselves gypsies but its a slur when other people call them that.
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Saged because not milk. But I just can't get over how different Allisson looks these days.
The debate was on if gypsie is a slur. Not if travellers are good people. What the fuck? Illiterate anon is just a font of weird spergings.
Regardless of the nature of the word, I think people are mostly upset about Dorian's reaction when people told her they considered it a slur. Not knowing about it is one thing. But doubling down becausr her friend said it was okay is quite another.
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That's funny, I actually looked at her Instagram the other day and I agree, she looks so drastically different compared to a few years ago, she's almost unrecognizable. Same thing with Sebastian Columbine.
I guess you could say that these two really did have a genuine goth phase though.
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Illiterate anon, pls stop cowtipping
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Context is that jake supposedly made an onlyfans. Comments range from "do makeup tutorials" to "I wonder what your ass looks like, thick or perky" (…yep)
At least we now know who illiterate anon is.
Illiterate anon, are you old enough to be online or are you esl? Your bullshit is annoying, it’s noticeable and these cows do check the forums.
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Don't know what's worse. Their cowtipping, or apparent dedication to Bon Jovi. No wonder they're obsessed with Jake. Arrogant talentless midgets are their type.
But wasn't Anne Rice "problematic
" or whatever? Kaya (and everyone else) will probably just shit on her and call her an old bitch the way she shat on JKR for asspats.
I don't think she was problematic
as much as just apain in the ass. She had a history of sueing anyone who used her characters, such as fanfic, or used characters that were too similar to hers. Since her definition of that was pretty broad and she basically felt that she'd invented gay vampires, she wasn't very popular. Also I think people mostly forgot about her. Not because of her personally, but because her writing went fucking insane and became largely unreadable. She'd decided that she didn't need editors anymore, most of her stories were about jesus now, and there were vampires in atlantis. People just sort of shrugged as nd moved on.>>1391276
My bet is IBF. Between her hysterionic reaction to Alan Rickman dying and her trying to gatecrash that memorial service for prince Phillip, she's the queen of making celebrity death about herself.
Wait, if they're not you, how do you know they had cancer? Their profile is fully private, and their tweets are hidden.
But sure. Give us your insta handle.
Really? When I took the screenshot their profile wasn't private, so it's definitely illiterate anon.>>1391320
why lie? Just stop cowtipping. Your typing is exactly the same.
>>1391320>child that die last year in northern Ireland as there profile photo .
You've claimed to be local to Jake and Kaya, a.k.a from Northern Ireland. Are there two Northern Irish people obsessed with the toxic
twats who both misspell things in the exact same way?
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It's absolutely illiterate anon. They are frantically editing their profile right now.
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And they deleted their profile.
But you can still see their mentions.
thanks anon, that's really interesting, appreciate it.>>1391095
they were replying to my post, not the gypsy slur debate.
I'm not illiterate that person I been in touch with over it .also why don't you give me your name seem your so perfect I add you on my Instagram .have you ever heard of be kind >>1391340
hope you never end in hospital sick I told you look Instagram you find me red hair tattoos on my face dm me like good soul
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I am not afraid of you my common styleless child my name is Adora Batbrat and I am Queen of the unfairly persecuted Svenska mörker
I feel so sorry for Jake fangirls, please get some standards. He's short and
average looking, it's just the same sort of projected fandom as Corpse Husband for mediocre goth boys. I know what I'd style myself as if I was a boy, seems like shooting fish in a barrel.
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Just Adam being heterosexual
It's not gay if a girl is watching.
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Illiterate anon has made a new account and is cowtipping again. Can we get this bitch banned?
My bet is the announcement is new merch or a UK/Aus tour.
It seems bizarre and heartbreaking that he never mentions being there for Kaya during her depressive episodes, no like “right now I’m supporting my gf through some shit”. I would get it if she was more private but she’s super open about her feelings on social. I get that they’ve been dating a long time but my s/o would never ever be planning on taking long trips without me if I was “crying so hard that Face ID doesn’t recognise me” and considering antidepressants again.
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When spending time with your partner is not an option.
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I'm sure not bleaching the fuck out of it will do more than "vegan hair gummies."
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Babe! I was fapping to the chick, I swear!
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Was scrolling through the threads and this came up on the corpsehusband thread.
Exactly. They constantly insist that they just don’t have to be public about their relationship but really, with all those hours vlogging and streaming and working from home, NO sweet moments sneak in? He can’t take her for a drive when she “needs distracted”? He just screams toxic
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She's been posting about her hair a lot lately. So it makes sense for it to be a real ask, if it's on people's mind.
Her Tweets and Stories, combined with Jakes very extensive plans all not involving Kaya >>1391869
all point towards a currently concealed breakup, don't cry Kaya you're finally free of this awful little man
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This might be a reach on my part. But maybe this is relevant to her situation?
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Oh man. Things are getting bleak.
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Yup. No dental care. No political power for women, and no antibiotics.
But also, fewer brown people around. So clearly as good as it gets.
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You… you could just cook. Nobody is stopping you.
I like how people romanticizing a time before slavery and colonialism triggers
you. I forget you actually want those things so you have something to complain about
I'd hate to tell you this. But thinking something is dumb isn't the same as being triggered
. I'm not hideously offended or hurt by it. I just think it's stupid to believe living in a time before modern medicine or soap just because there would be more white dudes around you is stupid. Cause it is.
Chuds love accusing anyone who disagrees with them as being "triggered
" because it means theu can just dismiss their responses as being overly emotional. A lot easier than having to admit their ideas might be wrong. Pro tip: if people dismiss you as being "triggered
" it just means they have run out of arguments.
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Quintuppel spooky box club unboxing?
>>1395481> before colonialism
pay no attention to the Roman Empire behind the curtain
also, love that the hurdy-gurdy, an instrument imported to Europe from the Middle East via the Arab conquest of Spain, is the emblem of Eurotrad partytime in this fantasy
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Will this be the announcement of the breKup? Or just another haul or GRWM?>>1395566
Wait, who said anything about being American?
I really, really hope it’s a breakup announcement video.
Im literally crossing my fingers.
Slaves didn't build the pyramids, they were just workers. But Rome had plenty of slavery so yeah 1228 was not "before slavery or colonization">>1395515
Vikings didn't even exist after 1100, do you mean Scandinavians?>>1395566>Its almost to the point where it’s no longer alternative and they belong on the trve Viking thread.
I kind of agree honestly. But I don't know why you're bringing Americans into this.
Gonna sound shit but I’m glad this happened.
Jake cheated, I absolutely believe this. Or if not that, I suspect he brought up being poly, she said no so he dumped her. Just wild guessing for the latter but he seems the sort
I’m no fan of Kaya but I think now, she can go and date casually, meet people, find out what she’s been missing
She’ll likely move back in with family, doubt they’d let her become homeless. It’d be good for her to get a more regular job outside YouTube - more chances to meet people. If she sorts her shit out, she could even integrate into the Irish goth scene
I do wonder if Jude is involved in all this
Glad it happened, because her life will improve, to clarify
What also interests me is if Jake can survive on his own. He seems like a manchild, I really don’t think he has what it takes to run a household, do normal adult things
What a colossal dick he is. But I do agree with the other anons. Hopefully this will be good for her in the long run
She doesn't need that leech.
Yeah, Kaya and her mom took Jake in so he could leave his "abusive
" family. Also forgot to mention he broke up with her, the breakup was not amicable and her cat is staying with her mom. Idk why she can't stay with her too.
I’m really hoping that the reason she can’t stay with her mother currently is a temporary lack of space, that she’ll eventually be able to stay there, and not something more serious
Doing this shit near Christmas seems like an extra twist of the knife from Jake
Christmas/winter is often a time where shelters are packed, not exactly a pleasant time to be sleeping in a car, should it come to that, either
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From the last thread.
>Please stop spreading rumors
But she's been living in her studio since October, and this was only three weeks ago. He was blatantly lying.
"Yeah we broke up. Anyway my life is amazing, I'm going across the world with all my money with a new girl, its gonna be amazing. Don't mention Kaya to me again"
I hate Jake so fucking much
Here's the video.
>I didn't appreciate the rumors
But the rumors were true lmao. And he also is saying how "oh we weren't in love, it was obvious we were gonna break up soon, we were more friends than bf/gf" meanwhile Kaya is saying she didn't even see it coming… K, Jake. Get fucked.
"Its so weird how people said we were couple goals when we didn't even post instagram stories together"
He's so twisted. Like what a warped view on reality and relationships this creature has
He’s so fucking gross
I hope his band flops hard
jesus christ, she said it's so cold in their that she can see her breath. and that's where she's living - no heat, no water, no insulation.
this grubby little fuck would be nothing without Kaya.
I agree anon about Jake cheating. Let's be real, he's a narc and as his YouTube kept getting more popular and his fangirls started multiplying, it all went to his head. He essentially started as a nobody and is now the king of Goff Poseurs and he more than likely was attracting skinny and/or tall alternative women whom are his type going off form his words. Kaya isn't entirely blameless because she turned into a gluttonous sloth so she can't be that surprised that Jake's disinterest in her was gonna increase as the years went by.
That said yeah, this is the best thing that happened to Kaya, a blessing in disguise and it's better it happened now instead of 5 years later. Now she has the chance to turn her life around, get off her lazy ass and live life. Maybe get a regular job for some stability and mingle with people.
They didn't say anything in the videos that anons haven't been saying for years. They act more like roommates, no chemistry, etc, I doubt they even had sex for the past few years honestly.
I don't really understand why Kaya isn't at her mums, or why she was in her studio when he was on tour, or why she isnt allowed to stay there when he is on his trips. I think she is probably exaggerating a bit as she has posted a few pictures from her house like outfits etc, and she's obviously had access to a shower. I can't imagine her mum letting her live in a studio for weeks over Christmas.
I feel bad for her, he has fucked her over and at this point she has no skills for streaming etc, she will realistically never get a job but hopefully she will get her ass in gear to churn out a video every month.
I reckon there were a lot of fans of the couple who lust after him and will drop her completely, so her fans/subs might dwindle.
Like I said in my other post, the contrast was just sad.
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Yeah, the comments are overwhelmingly supportive, which is shitty. But he did say that he was deleting anything remotely negative on this video.
Man, I really wish yt didn't hide dislikes.
Believe me anon, I'm not saying that Jake was any better in terms of looks but I wasn't necessarily talking just appearances. All Kaya would do is bitch, eat, and make excuses to not do anything. Jake is a scumbag but at least he was actually attempting to do things instead of sit around and complain all the time.
Again I can't stress that I don't like Jake, I don't like both parties but there were some obvious issues that Kaya had during their "relationship".
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"I pay for everything she needs except for heating, shower or safety"
Right, I just don't think it's wise to excuse Kaya for her own financial mistakes, especially when she had the means to keep making content. I mean she still has somewhat a fanbase which is lowkey incredible with how inactive she's been and that should've showed that she still has people willing to watch her videos which will give her adsense and paid sponsors. She was living in the lap of luxury but didn't take advantage of it when she had numerous opportunities.
But as many have said, this is more than likely the push she needs to take control of her life and as much as I don't like her, I do wish her the best in turning things around.
I didn't know that Kaya and her mom did that for him. That's pretty sad hearing this context. And oh without a doubt Kaya was the breadwinner of the relationship in the beginning. I watched Kaya in the early 2010s and remember when Jake came to live with her but I must've missed the details about why Jake left his hometown in the first place. I remember he said his family was toxic
or something along those lines but I didn't know Kaya and her mom helped pull strings to get him to them.
I have to echo what >>1395754
said, if they really are friends, why couldn't they just be roommmates? There probably is more to the story because there's no reason why Kaya would need to stay in a cold studio, especially when he was out of town doing his tour. >>1395759
Oh no anon kek
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Comment on Jakes video lmao
>>1395754>Now all of the sudden he has clout she's sleeping in a cold studio.
He left her in the cold, literally.
Temperature in Belfast will be 3-7c (37-44f) for the next week.
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he said she has a bathroom and space heaters so.. something doesn't add up here.
Lack of drive to do anything is a hallmark of a variety of mental illnesses
Though I do think that yeah, she should go get help, NHS is free, get therapy even if you have to go on a waiting list
But even taking the first steps to getting help can be difficult when you’re incredibly depressed
A vicious cycle
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He must be watching, comments like these are getting deleted quick.
Kaya looks like shit too, and she's a stuck up bitch IRL. She was always looking down on others yet is an insecure lazy mess.
Jake has been churning out regular content for a few years. Like how many years has it been a meme that all Kaya does is those spooky unboxings. Jake had went through a lot of different vlog styles and even a few high production videos and collabs with other you tubers. Kaya barely does anything. She may have helped him in the start and invited him over to NI, but he definitely pulled his weight when it came to income. He's actually got a passion to be a YouTuber. Kaya lacks this. She's lazy and spends majority of her time thinking about the past and over eating.
I don't know many men that would be lining up to date her either. Goth guys her age would actually expect you to be into goth things. Kaya is a chavvy bimbo in a goth costume. Her favourite songs are chav beats and shit bubblegum pop. For someone so shallow she doesn't do herself any favours with how she styles or carries herself.
It's laughable she didn't see the breakup coming when people have noticed the lack of interaction between them. They have no chemistry on screen together. They seem so sex less when together but Jake thirst posts. He's clearly been gagging for it and he's been working on his stumpy body and clearly dying for someone to appreciate it. He defintely fucked other girls on his queer little tour. Meanwhile Kaya has been hanging out with gay Grant instead of going to the fucking gym and sorting her shit out.
>>1395800>NHS is free, get therapy even if you have to go on a waiting list
I'm not in the UK but everything I've heard about the NHS is shit. I've heard people saying they tried to get therapy and they had to wait 6 months to get on a wait-list for a consultation and then another 6 months for an actual appointment. Idk if that's true, but I've heard it from more than a few different people.
I don't know Kaya's exact situation though. I know she's been in some kind of therapy and they diagnosed her with ADHD and tried to put her on Zoloft. So idk.
Yes, wait lists can be excessive, do to underfunding of the NHS
But better than nothing if you can’t afford to go private
>>1395806>I think the US trip is a precursor to Jake hastily marrying an American and moving to LA.
He wishes, remember when he and Kaya stayed in Kelly Eden's house and he was flirting with Kelly? He's been wanting to move to the US for a while and even made videos saying the same. Nevermind his fake US accent he was adopting even prior this current faux goth Social Repose phase.
I hope his use-em-and-dump-em con doesn't work a second time, but women are prone to think they are the exception and not the rule, and it "won't happen to me" so unfortunately there may be another woman wasting her life with Jake soon.
Can you imagine Jake and Kelly together. Two toxic
narcs feeding off each other. Would have been a shit fest but now Kelly has been taken by skelly man.
I know this sounds like im taking fakes part here but im not, im just trying to uase some sens.
When it comes to housing, it seams like they are renting. So why kaia wouldnt have it is one, she cant afford the rent, and two, if he let here have it "untill she can find something on here own" she just wouldnt have the motivation to do anything about it.
If its some how is a house that they bought, i assume there is a hefty loan on it. With a seperation, there will be one name on that instead of 2, and considering she cant afford here own food, no bank would ever tough here.
And we all think of kaia as the one who supported him. He moved in to the moms place, but when kaia started here yt chanel, he had a job for quite sole time. Was mag going while he still had a job? He was doing yt at the same time for a while, but I think he only had like 10k when he quit.. so how long did she support him for really?
I agree, he is a scumbag in general, but if I broke up with someone in these sercomstanses, and they were that devestated by it, i would do what it took to get them out of my life.
Bth. The studios are very much not ment for living in, right? How big is the chans that they will kick here out if they find out about it?
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A sampling of the fans of Jake…
She can't cook because she doesn't have a kitchen?
This changes the context of those "unmotivated to film in the studio" posts considerably since she was living
in the studio from October. I presume all her irl friends/family knew about it and that's why those posts didn't really make sense, they were more aimed at the irls.
He wants to act like a hero for "paying" for the studio but he could just simply? Let her live in the house? If he doesn't have a new partner yet there's absolutely no reason why she can't be there.
She has a little kitchenette in the studio. But that just has a sink, and an outlet for an electric kettle. Just like her "bathroom" is just a toilet and a little sink. I agree with >>1395843
. She could at least stay at the house once he's on the road. She could have a shower and heating at least.
She can’t? Wasn’t that the general theme of her video?
Kaya’s cow behaviour and laziness aside, I can’t stress enough how appalling it is to have all that money, a three bedroom house, and just dump your long term partner on their ass when you know they’ve not had an income for months. “Things” were never ever going to help Kaya and I can totally see Jake being the type of manipulative asshole who thinks “I took you to a spa and bought you a car and this house and you’re still miserable”. I know we called it but this is a new fucking low. But his asshole fans think he’s this great guy who “saved their lives” so they’ll believe whatever shit he feeds them about the breakup (if they even know about Kaya at all). >>1395800
Fuck off, do you understand the waiting list in some areas is 2+ years for crappy CBT (which rarely works for some people who have autism/ADD already overthink). It’s not that simple. If Jake really cared about her he’d offer to pay for private therapy instead of buying a car and a bike, I’m not joking.
Reeks of manipulative ex husband. Kaya and her family put him up when he moved country and like his comments said, she built him. If he had issues supporting her once he started making money and he wanted her to work more, he should’ve made that super clear - but we’ve been saying for years that even though Kaya’s work ethic was piss poor he obviously didn’t care about anything but himself.
He’s spinning a narrative as per and I just don’t get that same feeling for Kaya. She didn’t say she was homeless, just that she didn’t have a permanent residence of her own that wasn’t her parents’ or friends’ couches? She’s a sad lump but I believe when she says she’s been caught off guard during an already difficult time.
Yeah. He was flirting with Jude on stream, and joking about her taking Kaya's attic. He is in no position to complain about "rumours."
Which also implies Jude at least knew they were broken up.
Saged for autism over this whole thing lol.
The makeup and his shitty fake newscaster voice in his video is so irritating and such a contrast from her own video.
“A studio apartment” but it’s in a commercial compound that gets locked at night - so which is it (rhetorical)? A rented space with a bathroom and a kitchen sink is NOT an apartment. “It’s fine here’s some space heaters” is what shitty landlords say when they don’t want to fix your broken heating - they don’t make the whole space livable over winter.
Would you feel comfortable or in any way secure if your narcissistic ex, who had just lied to you and dumped you, was paying all your utilities and food and “rent”? She said herself she’ll lose her car once the lease is up. This is the most manipulative shit I’ve ever seen and most of his fans will be too young to understand that. He’s martyring himself as if he’s paying child support or something - being financially reliant on your nasty ex would be terrifying, not like she’s walking in the park while he works his ass off checks notes
reacting to TikToks. >>1395855
Technically YouTube was her job, she was just becoming bad at it. When you’ve built your life WITH a partner, you factor that in. They had lived with nothing together so it makes sense that she felt secure with them scraping by or latterly him supporting her. In a really healthy relationship its okay to agree that one person might pay more when the other is struggling and vice versa. If they dated for 11 years and lived together most of that time, it’s fucked up that he doesn’t understand the impact that undiagnosed ADHD had on her, and how much her depression affects her functioning. I’m not saying she should’ve been allowed to wallow in her attic forever, but clearly just having recording equipment was not the problem.
But I agree, she needed to grow up and get help and be on her own, hopefully this is the kick she needed.
Kaya:>I'm not gonna pretend this was an amicable thing we both just decided, because why would i willingly put myself in this current situation>>1395671
Jake:>our relationship just became comfortable and not romantic, so I thought it would be best if we parted ways
So basically kaya just telling the truth since she has no reason to lie, while Jake sugarcoats for his naive fans and doesn't even acknowledge he only got his start because of her, then 70% of the video was talking about new channel stuff.
I just watched the both and this exactly:>The makeup and his shitty fake newscaster voice in his video is so irritating and such a contrast from her own video.
She's very genuine and honest and clearly very broken up about it, him in classic narc fashion has his full streaming setup, fake voice and a long list of bragging about what he's going to do next year (tour, tats, holidaying with "K", vlogging, merch, bike, new equipment)
He really just mentioned the breakup in passing, almost as if it was among his list of achievements which he reiterated at the end.
His main focus seems to be on preventing "rumours" when anyone can see what he's been up to with thirstposting, tours, onlyfans, "jokes" about Jude, new suspicious bff and so on.
I do think Kaya will strengthen and grow from this, I can't imagine living with such a self centred piece of shit and having any self worth.
We will see a big change in her over the next year I bet.
She's self-admittedly very sensitive and very sensitive people absolutely respond negatively to creatures like Jake, it puts an absolute stopper on your motivation and worth to have everything you value dismissed in a second.
I can only imagine the cold way he actually enacted the breakup considering how he approached it in front of an audience.
He truly believes he's important and famous and he can just discard his life partner of a decade in a clearly very cold, heartless fashion and still come out of it being seen the good guy.
He says more about it in the comments than the video, you can tell it truly meant nothing to him. I hope some of his dumb fans can see through it and realise he's a piece of shit.
agreed, they got together as teens so she probably felt obligated to try and make things work. have always felt like he used her as a stepping stone and the attention just feeds his ego. curious to see what he will peddle to his ~snaccs~ in the new year as there's been an obvious lack of side shit like the shirts and pix he was selling. anyone know if he keeps his patreon updated? the last vid of his i skipped through he was rambling about traveling to get tattooed, as the pandemic continues.
could you imagine if they had moved to barcelona, wonder if he would have still ended things and then had to scramble to sort things out.
anyway, hope he does more dumb ~moto vlogs~ and crashes again.
Idk how so many people, like you, keep missing the point of why we're villainizing him. It's not that he broke up with her, we all knew they'd break up eventually.
It's that he kicked her out of their house to sleep in a cold studio where she doesn't feel safe despite the fact that he's about to go on a trip and won't be in town anyway, probably cheated on her, said he hadn't been in love with her for years yet waited until he had a lot of fans to actually break up with her. And like yeah he says that she has a space heater and a shower, but she says otherwise, and he's been caught lying before. There are good and bad ways to break up with people, especially after a 12 year relationship with someone you've been through a lot with.
"we didn't even post instagram stories together" Really? How about the hotel/resort they stayed in and Kaya PAID FOR IT for Jake's birthday and actually posted stories with him? She was so happy posting stories of the two of them! Maybe she didn't post selfies with him, but she never hid the fact that they were together in her stories, she even made one tiktok pranking him, she was making an efford to make it work.>>1395671
Ok so if they were more friends than GF and BF (i get it, some couples do act more like friends at times) why would he kick her and her cat out? If Kaya wanted to have some alone time then ok, but kicking the cat out? Didn't he say that he liked the cat? It's clear she didn't want to move out and she still loves him, it all happened in october and she's still crying and feeling lonely and even worse than before, even if they were more like friends, why kicking your friend out and giving her time limit to find somewhere else to live? And why didn't he move out instead if he's the one who wanted out of that relationship?
I honestly was finding Jake's increasing lack of concern for Kaya's mental health very fishy… Even while he was on tour he was only posting about it while Kaya was posting sad stories, ok he had to post about the tour and the band and stuff but why not posting something about her to make her feel better?
I really hope Kaya moves on fast and becomes even more successful than him. She helped him a lot and she was the "famous one" back when they met so it would be fair that he at least helped her out making money for herself. Kaya deserves better.
Have you ever had a long term relationship that fizzles out because of lack of passion? Jake honestly does not owe Kaya anything he's worked steadily for years while she has complained about every minor task involved in simply existing. And if she's moaning so much why can either of her parents help her out or help her seek out somewhere new to live? They were able to help out her and Jake apparently way back when, why not know when it's only Kaya and she has a following she could you know, actually start earning money again?
Yeah Jake is a douche who is in love with himself, but no one deserves to carry a depressed partner especially if they haven't done anything to help themselves in years. Fair play to Jake for getting out of a depressive pit. Kaya probably brought them both down with her sour attitude and constant moaning. Why should both of them have to put up with each other if there's no love or passion. She's not helpless she's literally just lazy.
Yes I’m well aware how the nhs works
But no, you don’t always have to settle with shitty CBT, I’ve been through the process, you have to fight for what you need but it’s possible
Jake doesn’t care about her so no shit he won’t pay for therapy for her, so why even bring it up?
this is an underrated post and anons need to read and reread it.>>1396021
say what you want about CBT but it would probably work for many of Kaya's problems. she still needs to address the ADHD and CBT might not be effective until then, but it CAN help her break out of her shitty mental patterns.
CBT can be great, I think it sometimes depends on the therapist though, DBT can also be fantastic
I do relate to the other anon about being given CBT when that’s not what I needed, but that’s an issue with the NHS - you can’t just sit back and accept it though, you have to fight for what you need
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Jake is slowly losing subs
Bit surprising, given how mindless most of his fans seem
But maybe some of them are growing up
Yeah we broke up whatever im not sad about it but I'm getting tattoos and another tour im excited more meet and greats its going to be great oh and a jumbo plushie
Doubt it, he just remade his studio, he probably just wanted her out because she needs to be pushed because if he said “when you have the funds to get your own place to move” she would never move out.
Usually you sign at least a 6-12 month lease so he’s obviously planning on coming back.
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Left on Kaya's video.
I always have my doubts when people say things like this. Always seems so attention seeking :/(:/)
That is possible in NI, but they started to move before they split up so Kaya should have been on the lease for the new place anyway. The fact that he was able to just kick her out makes it sound like she wasn't, which was a terrible move on her part and left her with no rights. I wonder if Jake knew that, if he'd been planning the break up for a while.
Never live with a partner unless your name is on the lease or on the deed, no matter how long you've been together.
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Noticed this comment under Jake's video, this is K who he's going on the roadtrip with.
Kaya currently has nearly 1k more comments on her video (1,592 Jake to Kaya's 2,498) though Jake's been on the delete, not sure if deleted comments are counted in the total.
And the top comments on Kaya's video have many more likes than Jakes top comments, and are very kind and supportive for her. Really happy to see all the support Kaya has been getting on Youtube and Twitter as well as new Patreon subs, and Jake steadily losing followers.
Jake really thought he pulled that off kek but I've seen so many comments talking about the stark contrast between the two videos and his strangely careless reaction. People have been watching the two of them for so many years, and not everyone even saw any issues prior to now (though they were obvious imo) so many people are shocked.
I do think breaking up will be a positive move for Kaya just because Jake is such an obvious tosser, and the way this all played out made that fact glaringly clear.
To be fair not that I’m on his side but he doesn’t have to pay for all her stuff still even after 3 months post breakup she could just moved in with her mum?the cats already there so why can’t she go there?
The last bit he said “kaya has everything she needed to make it on her own” for the past year yet she hasn’t he probably got sick of her not doing nothing not making any money, I would too.
But someone said on here (can’t find the comment now) she been back to the house as she been posting outfit pictures on instergram stories so who lieing?
I do feel bad for her cause she all so clearly heart broken and he bragging about going on another tour
Fuck off illiterate anon. Nobody gives a single fuck about what you think. Go hug your bon jovi bodypillow and give in to your dwarf fetish.
Ffs can we get this bitch banned already?
I like how you are triggered
even though everyone on this thread is saying there opinions about the toxic
twosome over the resent news yet you pinpoint this one comment. I don’t think it is illiterate anon
Yup she's been super privileged - I dont know anyone who has a whole house to themselves and doesnt work. I know people with high paying jobs who still live in flatshares.
Reality is gonna hit hard for Kaya sadly
I know it's been said but the difference, even between the thumbnails, is stark. She's so clearly upset, unedited and just about made herself presentable for the camera. Then there's him in full hair and makeup, pulling a face over a graphic design is my passion background.
It's not surprising that she seems to be getting a better reaction than him, she comes across as much more sincere. Her video currently has 10k fewer views than his but 3k more likes and we know he's been deleting comments that so much as imply anything negative about him.
Just wow. She could get evicted at any point. If the studio isn't a residential building then it doesn't fit safety/fire regs for residential buildings (using space heaters 24/7 in the middle of winter, for example - not safe and I hope she has carbon monoxide detectors). She's actually leaving herself very vulnerable just making a video saying she's living there. A friend crashed overnight at her studio once and got in big trouble with the landlords when they found out, nearly lost the lease.
I hope she gets enough cash to fund a deposit for a proper place to stay asap, as much as she's annoying she doesn't deserve this.
As for him, if he thinks that place is habitable why isn't he staying there instead? A true gentleman. Absolute fucking narc.
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And he was just like "yeah, we broke up, don't say anything to get ME mad, I don't want any assumptions, I don't want any bad comments based on MY videos and MY streams, I felt the relationship was going nowhere, I though it was best to break up, I noticed that for years the relationship was not working, i, i, i, i" Ok, he might process things differently and be less emotional and stuff, and yeah, he doesn't need to make a long video talking about the breaking up thing, but what he did with that video was awful, he could have made a post or a short video just saying they broke up and that he didn't want to talk about it and that he won't mention it anymore because of privacy and his socials being only for his band and "influencer" stuff and yada yada. I'm sure he added all the other stuff to make the video long enough so he could get money from it.
Besides, they were together for 12 years, how come he can get over 12 years so easily when Kaya is still clearly very sad?
I'm sorry but as much as "unable to have emotions" as his fans claim he is, 12 years ain't something you just throw away overnight, she might have gotten lazy, but she gave him a home, food, emotional support, anything she had when he needed it the most and probably he wouldn't be where he is now if it wasn't because of her and her family supporting him.
I mean, i can only think of the huge difference there is between this video and the one he talks about why he doesn't believe in god and what happened to his sister years ago, he had no makeup, talked about his feelings and he had to cut recording many times because he couldn't hold back the tears while in this video he's in full makeup and makes the breakup sound almost as if it was part of his list of good things he did. That "The era of Jake and Kaya is gone, but heeey i have a tour and merch and vlogs so get excited" part really makes him look so bad and selfish.
Did you actually watch the whole video? The rest of the video was about the tour, his band, tattoos, basically every way he could spend as much money as possible.
Putting the break up for a few minutes at the beginning was a a dick move. It’s like “here ya go” and shitting on her so he could then continue with how good he is. The title of the video was complete click bait as the main focus was on what he’s doing
Tinfoil hatter in me says the new GF is Jude
Though realistically Jude likes fit men, not little pudgy manlets
Yep i did but i didn't want to mention the same thing everyone has mentioned about him just talking about it for like 2/3 minutes and then bragging about his plans because i think it wouldn't add much to the conversation. That's why i also mentioned that he should have made a short video talking about the breakup instead, because doing what he did was a dick move and of course, he doesn't care, he just needed a long video with clickbait to gain more views and more money.>>1396814
Yeah… The fact that he said that "for years" the relationship wasn't romantic while Kaya is saying that she didn't see it comming says a lot. To be honest, i don't really watch his content and i ignore the comments so i didn't know about the flirting with other girls, glad he's losing followers and support while Kaya is gaining more followers. And i agree about having a new girlfriend come January.
He'll either make up a shitty story of him and this new girl suddenly clicking and stuff or say that "they've been friends for a looong time" and they "started having feelings for each other" ooor he'll hide her for a while because being single online attracts thirsty followers online and groupies at concerts. If the new gf is Jude it's very likely she wouldn't mind as long as she's the main sex toy.
The person K who he has big travel plans with in 2022 and namedrops in the video+person he's roadtripping with is a transman (she looks like a butch lesbian but may be straight/bi) so I do suspect she is someone lined up to be the next one.
He'd also be vying for American citizenship and mentions trying to book an American tour in the video, he probably grooms K on socials all day long in the run-up to this.
He knew he was taking a risk dumping Kaya especially in such a cruel way, but he seems certain this is the path to success hence the bizarre format where he lists the breakup as if it's an achievement, and then immediately talks about his career goals and such. They are directly connected in his mind.
He's one of the moronic Brits (he's Welsh iirc, but Celts often suffer from a similar delusion) who think the US is a paradise despite all the evidence to the contrary, those people would run over their own grandma for a chance to live in the US, so this is why he chose now of all times (in winter, during a pandemic when her career is on standstill) to dump Kaya when as anons have noted, he checked out a looong time ago and could have left at any time. All his ducks are lined up essentially and has been planning this for a very long time. Awful not to inform Kaya of his plans at any point.
He stated he wanted to do an American tour with his band so he likely does want to move to America (probably LA)
That alone should show his levels of delusions- it’s not like his shows were sold out hits and he isn’t some kind of underground cult darling
He’s not going to find success in America with the dime a dozen music he makes
Jake isn't the first unscrupulous man to stay with a supportive woman he didn't love for exactly as long as it was convenient. This kind of thing happens semi-frequently to the long term girlfriends of student doctors or lawyers who get dumped after the men graduate and have suddenly have the ability to earn big money and pull the kind of women they think they deserve. He's just another male gold digger and it's only unusual that he's a public figure so everyone could see it play out.
Kaya's gotten nearly 200 more Patreon subs since last night. It's nice to see people being so supportive but I really hope she doesn't get comfortable ebegging and actually goes back to work this time. She's being handed a lot of goodwill and renewed interest, this would be the perfect opportunity to revive her channel. It'd be sad to see her waste it, she's lazy and avoidant but she doesn't seem malicious.
Also, in his narrative, they’ve felt like just friends for years and its been a steady decline - but he was going to let her and her dad move him to Barcelona LAST YEAR? What the fuck.
He genuinely seems like a clinical narcissist/bpd with delusions of grandeur, it's surreal the way he talks about himself compared to the reality of his tiny no-name band and gaggle of goth fangirls on the internet.
Most actually successful people don't even talk about themselves like that, it's some Youtuber brainworms where all they want is to be famous and think they can fake it til they make it.
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Nice seeing all the verified people supporting Kaya and not Jake.
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So in a twist absolutely everyone saw coming, she thinks jake is a narcisist.
I was scrolling through tiktok saw a video of someone saying
'you wanna trip up a narcississt ask them what they love about you'
the girl then said to her boyfriend whats your favourite thing about me and he just stares blankly at the camera and says nothing 4 times.
kayas commented on the video and said 'Had this happen on livestream in front of hundreds of people. Embarrassing as shit'
thinking abt the time this cow said “i knew skinnier anorexics who binged and purged than i did who only restricted and fasted”… any “apology” she offers is heartless and insincere! she doesn’t care about the triggering
content she spreads to a bunch of pro-ana 14 year olds.
Love the bit where they talk about their previous house needing to be remodelled after they moved because Jake had punched holes in the doors during his anger attacks, while Kaya was moving all of the valuables in the house out of the way so he wouldn't smash them.
But hey, he's paying for her studio, and she has a space heater…
>>1397116>Back in 2018
For the massive effort she puts into sounding like she's so streetwise living in squats, doing heroin, she's fucking sheltered when it comes to racism. Jesus f Christ.
I'm older than her and nobody my age ever said "coloured". That was granddads. She's preaching to the converted and she doesn't have a clue that she is. Give it up, kid.
I'm pretty sure she will, she might even make a video (or some videos, because videos about toxic
relationships make lots of views and money) about it, maybe not saying his name but talking about a narcisistic ex or maybe a video titled something like "i was in a toxic
relationship" or something like that, right now she's sad and crying, but once she fully realizes she was just a tool for Jake, she'll get seriously mad and if she ever wants to start a "war" against him, she's going to get lots of support, the comments on both videos are so different, some people are calling Jake out or saying there's something fishy while a lot of people are making even long comments to Kaya showing full support for her, she has said on her ig stories that she's overwhelmed by the support she has received. Jake's stories aren't even worth mentioning, just the usual shit.
Wouldn’t even say this jake but one of his obese fan girls. >>1397294
There’s a difference between being lazy to fix your mental health and being a pure asshole like jake. Sorry you didn’t make it into his of girls to flirt with
You must be young.
Kaya essentially built him.
He was a slob with nothing from 17 up until a few years ago and they’re both almost 30, that’s pretty pathetic. And you want to rag on Kaya for a few years of being a slob?
Your jake fan girl is showing.
Just remember jake stans, this isn’t a quick thing. Kaya paid for and did everything for him from when they were teens. A few years is nothing
Honestly she was dumb to invest so much into someone that hadn't even proposed that far into their relationship and he was the breadwinner the past few years.
Its common for girls to put their boyfriends first and I can sympathise there but at the level those two were earning for essentially doing fuck all they should have been wise with their money. Kaya should have bought a house or asked Jake was he ever going to marry her or buy property together or something. She's stupid for not realising he was using her. Everyone else could see it.
When did Barcelona plans fall through? Instead of all the studio buying and house hopping and stupid scooters and cars they should have bought a house. Kaya should have had her name on deeds.>>1397316
They were teens for like 2 years when they met. The rest of the time they've been pretty equal, and then Jake overtook her in money. And just because someone builds you up doesn't actually mean they owe you. Like really, how many ex boyfriends are paying for their ex girlfriends accommodation if they have no children together? They both were on the dole. Then Jake actually worked in conventional jobs longer than Kaya because she was more popular on YouTube. He started uploading more when he didn't have a proper job.
It is pathetic how they've both been and nearly in their 30s. Probably why they finally broke up, one of them seems to want to change his life and do things he's always wanted. Kaya has to start at zero as she said, her taking a break has bit her in the ass. Still think she could just go home but would rather get high and do nothing all day. Like how bad do her parents look if she's freezing in a cold studio? Don't get it.
Kaya was doing YouTube well before her come back of not what to say to goths, she also had sponsorships from vampirefreaks and other alternative websites. She has been supporting jake from the beginning.
You haven’t been following to make comment, sit down or go yell on tiktok to get jakes attention
>>1397116> I am not trying to make excuses for my behaviour.
Continues to make excuses. I agree with other UK anons. I haven't heard anyone but elderly racists use the word "coloured."
Wow! A whole year?! Wow! I’m so glad a her not working for a whole year (though more like 3) makes her worse than jake not working for 7 years! >>1397336
He never had a vf sponsorship nor was he ever paid by any alternative social website. Kaya was paid and she had YouTube. Stopped for a year and then came back. Even when she came back and had jake in her vids he was a basic bitch. He’s only done the make up to suck in young viewers
Yep. I’m not saying TT is perfect or isn’t lazy and mentally ill, but loving a narcissist with anger and grandeur issues must be exhausting. I can only imagine how worthless he made her feel over the years, his behaviour was so subtly unloving.
Slight derail but while we’re talking about his issues, nothing is funnier to me than when he legit punched a door in front of a manager at his shitty call center job, and said “I just cannot handle authority” as if that’s in any way a normal or positive reflection on yourself as a person. Anyone else would be so embarrassed if they had an outburst like that at as a teen. He just comes across as such a foul person.
Except he has basically done those things. His tiktok/try not to laugh videos are (aside from being the easiest type of moneygrabbing video to make, slap a yellow border thumbnail on there a la Shane Dawson and call it a day for the algorithm) just as much of a trend as unboxings were/are. His “goff” style is just a phase that he’s realised gained him followers, except yet again he had to pull crazy faces and edit his pics to get any attention. Kaya’s “pink phase” has been on and off all her life (not wking - we all know her most recent bout of wearingpink clothes was grim af). If you look at Jake’s old videos, they’re dry af.
You seem like a Jake fan. Nobody here is saying Kaya’s YouTube channel is particularly good either. Just try and have some critical thinking, preferably before you throw any money at him. Narcs are very good at manipulation.
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>>1397325>Instead of all the studio buying and house hopping and stupid scooters and cars they should have bought a house. Kaya should have had her name on deeds
Would you really want to be tied to this man any more than you had to? The fact they never got married or bought a house is a good thing in this case, the detangling of lives is much simpler. The fact he couldn't even list something he loved about her when prompted >>1397101
would suggest any further commitments would've been a big mistake.
Aside, looking at their stats earlier, Kaya and Jake have nearly equal views on the latest videos, and Kaya has roughly equal views on her videos without resorting to Goth Reacts clickbait. Her support versus his has been very clear-cut, I think his goth egirl stans lulled him into a false sense of security. The reality is TT is just as/more popular and loved than him and the fact he thought he could unceremoniously offload her like unwanted baggage is retrospectively hilarious given how it went.
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Kaya has gained as many subscribers as Jake has lost.
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I use a youtube dislike extension and I checked his vid.. Kaya is definitely winning atm in views/likes
damn, I thought he'd have more dislikes than that
off topic, but can you share what extension you used to do that?
Scumbags like him tend to go after younger and younger girls as they get older.
Perhaps this is why he openly liked Jude, since she does nasty ddlg shit and would probably let him hit her. As aggressive as he is, he seems like the type to do that. Narcs like degrading others.
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I think he's trying (and failing) to look like Edward Scissorhands, since he makes similar derpy faces in the movie
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Cunt(namefag and subjectfag)
Jake has been lining this up for months, possibly the last year or so. Any time they posted videos together, I cringed from start to finish because the boys revulsion and contempt for her was so evident it was painful to watch. I wanted to reach into the screen and shake her and say "lady, he doesn't give a fuck about you, take your cat and run!" However, being thrown into the deep end, as shitty as it is, will no doubt help her to rise to the occasion and start making a life for herself and gain some independence. Kaya has been in relationship after relationship and it will do her the world of good to be alone. I know most people know her to be with Jake but she has had boyfriends prior to him and long term ones at that. Also, people in abusive relationships don't realise they are being abused, narcs as well love to have financial control because it extends their control over their partner so it comes as no surprise he was paying for everything for her. Now that he's severed that tie and the "era" is over, he will undoubtedly start fucking rings round himself, the stumpy predator. The only reason she is in that studio or paying for her car is because he is legally tied into doing so, if he could opt out he would. He is sugar coating what he is doing for her in true narc style, it's convenient for him as it helps his good guy narrative and has "provided" no life for her at all.
Stop with the minor stuff it’s weird your very obsessed with it
you have commented about it 3 times now
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This is the kind of fans Jake has got. Jesus fucking christ.
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Correct. I understand that when his tiktok compilations started he was supposed to hate the videos, but he wouldn’t even go on the app to watch them by himself. It was a pure moneygrab. >>1398009
Wow. Such a hard working creative.
>>1398077>I don't think anyone is wishing trauma on minors
that person actually said
>This spark will be with multiple of his fans till he fucks up with a minor online. I hope so anyway
so yeah it kind of sounded like they wanted him to seduce a minor, which would be really weird tbh. but maybe that's not what they meant and I misinterpreted it.
'sToP iNfIgHtInG aBoUt SeMaNtIcS' proceeds to argue about what should and shouldn't be argued about on a literal fucking gossip board
in all seriousness, i do feel bad for how jake just dumped kaya on her ass. it was a shit thing for him to do. but hey, maybe it'll be a wakeup call for her and she'll start posting better content. i've come across a number of comments from her on tiktoks about abuse/narcissists, so she's def vagueposting/vaguecommenting about jake.
>>1397981>He just wanted to leave wales because it was a shit hole, according to him.
Wales is unfortunately one of the poorest areas of the UK, I live in London and looking at the actual beautiful mansions you can buy in Wales for like 200k tells you a lot. Literal dream houses for the price of a 1bed/1bath flat here in London.
His move to NI was social climbing, he attached himself to Kaya then proceeded to try and fail to make a career off her (for some time copying Casey Nestat) before landing the fake goth Edward Scissorhands Schtick which he has been doing ever since. >>1397972
I think the same thing.
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I agree. Also his Instagram feed pisses me off. Literally the same picture over and over again.
yeah he was openly mimicking casey neistat in his older vlogs, he also seemed like he was trying to be like jared dines, a normie but still a metalhead so somewhat edgy or whatever
and wow I didn't know that about wales, now I kind of want to make a fortune then buy a mansion there
She is 28, if they were together for 12 years, any relationship before this would be when she was a teen, and so it couldnt be that long term. Obviously it is devastating to have your life as an adult be drastically changed but you cant say that she had that many bfs before him.>>1398030
Its telling that she has to find a place that also allows pets knowing that its harder instead of Jake who already has the space for it. Like yeah he probably said its "her cat" but if he cared he would be lenient as he knows the housing issue.
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Trust me Kaya. Once you get settled you'll realize how nice it can be to be free of this douchebag.
Please screenshot and post them
My heart breaks for her to think she was abused what a vile 'man'
I really doubt Kayla will be able to get her own place
To rent you need to prove an income. This is much harder if you’re self employed and she won’t be able to demonstrate any earnings for the past year. She’d be better off moving in with her mum or a friend and getting a job to earn a deposit. Can’t believe she can’t even sleep on her mums sofa - something else going on there.
Selling feet and sims4 porn together should tell you. They re both li@rs and money grabbers.
I stand what I said about her being a goddess if she wanted to. She will probably won't and settle for a shit job, but should def make the effort.
What's indeed a probability is that they are over each other just fine and she decided to do what she does best, whine to get views, subs and adoration.
When it comes to Fake, man…that fakeboi must be his wet dreams come true, too bad they don't have a dick, right?
Spain has 8.0000 cases per day already and restrictions keep going back to last years's.Somebody should save that last video he posted, and put the kettle on, cause his delusions and megalomania will be fabulously crushed. "World tour to get tattoos" I clackled.
(Please excuse my english, it's not my first language)
What is being said is that he seems to be of the tribe of male youtubers that could make such mistake of his own poor judgement because he is that arrogant. Feels untouchable, too many yes-men implying he can do no wrong. Diminishing morals and lack of ethics. Etc.
Minors have to be protected by their parents or guardians and they certainly should not be allowed to idolize a walking, talking clown. But his fanbase, apparently, is mostly minors.
I hope it will not come that a teen got groomed and get their life destroyed, but youtubers often are that disappointing.
Pretty sure the membership was in Jake's name. He has to pay for her studio and car, because those have leases. But I'm pretty sure he will have kicked her off the gym membership plan. Wouldn't want to run into your ex there and have things get awkward when you're trying to flex. But if she was paying for it herself, that would honestly be a good expense to cut.
What level of lockdown is NI in at the moment? Are gyms open?
The car is leased and in jake's name. That's also why he's still paying for it. He has to, or go to the extra expense of breaking the lease. They never owned any of that flashy shit. They just tried to live beyond their means.
As for nobody ratting her out, i doubt it. Given Stumpy's insane fans. Or maybe her mum is just a negligent cunt. Or Kaya doesn't want to be stuck to a schedule. Who knows.
It's rented, he even says it here >>1397926>I'm not in a position to buy
From June. And his car and bike and whatever are lease (maybe the bike is owned since he mentioned wrapping it in his shit breakup video)>>1399288
He also has most of the filming and streaming equipment, not Kaya, as evidenced by the difference between their two videos. Selling her camera and laptop would be dumb for the reasons the other anon said.>>1399439
Yeah so great to have a toxic
narcissist paying for a few things before unceremoniously dumping you on your ass in the dead of winter in a commercial building with no heating or shower, what a hero
You do you know you can pay insurance yearly…
I don’t understand why “why does she live with her mum?” Keeps coming up as if you bother to scroll your lazy ass up the page there’s a screen shit of why.
Some of you are just as lazy as Kaya
So you’re either a snacc or an incel. I’m not saying she should have let him pay for a fraction of the stuff he has but I also have no doubt there was some convincing or tacit manipulation on his end. I wouldn’t put it past him to lease her a car just so he didn’t have to drive places with her or to get his credit score up by repaying it on time. He was pissing away money worse than Kaya with her hauls, nobody needs four fucking bikes.
Yes she’s a layabout, and she’s clearly completely niave to think it was okay to rely on him financially (as he has done with her when her channel was popular, she was the main breadwinner). Also let’s not pretend Jake suddenly got his act together and started working hard, he’s still doing all the same self-involved shit he used to, just in a different hat.
Leasing a car in YOUR name and buying a house in YOUR name is also not some big favour to your gf/bf. It was never going to make her not depressed - she needs to grow up and go to therapy, but I imagine they were really just circling each other in the old house like angry cats and rotting in their respective piles of Primark shit. She essentially got to borrow his stuff. She seemed happy with her little chav moped so she doesn’t strike me as someone who’d automatically beg for a Jeep (happy to be proven wrong on that one). Kaya is a giant child but doesn’t strike me as a golddigger. Why the fuck would Jake, a grown man who can make his own decisions, make those financial choices?
And who are you, a Kaya white knight? Sorry I don't have that much sympathy for someone getting dumped and not having someone else paying for them anymore. Jake's not the only one that scams fans and fishes for money by dooms posting. You can't even fucking spell naive.
Jake doesn't need 4 bikes sure but he pays for them and is planning on making a motorbike YouTube channel. He also uses his vehicles in his content. He at least works towards keeping all his crap. Kaya has had her scooter(s) since like March and hasn't filmed them for easy content. She got her car in June or July. She had a personal trainer. Someone was paying for her piano lessons which I assume she stopped since she stopped posting about them. And doctors in UK are free. She had a dermatologist. She's been referred by doctors to mental health services. She's been giving medication. She basically just needs to sort her life out, eat better, be active and her skin and a lot of her issues would clear up.
She painted one room in the new house pink with two of her mates while Jake painted the rest of the house. She was crying at having to move the studio out of the other house to the new one. She just gets everything handed to her and now people are actually feeling sorry for because the carpet had been pulled out from under her. She could have spent years saving her money, investing in equipment but she has absolutely no drive to work hard at the career she's chosen. She couldn't work retail. She doesn't have the discipline to be self employed.
Funny thing is Jake does actually have more subscribers on YouTube and overall engagement. He essentially freed himself of dead weight.
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Ok anon, you know you are literally wking this motherfucker right here
I don’t get how the band members ever put up with the name tbh.
If we’re sharing Jake ego moments, this one is my (least) fave. I know that the abortion law repeal was a HUGE deal in Ireland and it meant so much to people. Knew a girl from Belfast at the time who said it was unprecedented because of the religious stuff and was in tears etc etc. He uses it as his video title and mentions it superficially for a total of 8 seconds
and then the entire rest of the video is his face.
Saged for shitty blogpost but this is really when Jake changed from being forgettable to a god tier douchebag with actual personality issues for me. His fans need to know that this vlog era was possibly the most authentic Jake’s ever been and it was so bad.
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I mean it's true, but what an arsholish thing to point out in your video filmed on the same day as your break up announcement. Heartless prick.
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At least she's trying I guess
>>1399676>your young fans say you saved their lives
Have they really said that? I can't imagine anyone finding his wannabe casey neistat vlogs where he just films himself complaining and/or doing chores like the laundromat inspiring, or his tiktok reactions, or his generic nu metal music.
Not saying YT content has to have substance, kaya used to do quintuple spooky box vids to scrape in views, I'm saying his fans need to grow standards before it's too late
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I guess Mara and her boyfriend broke up?
It is relatable if youre asexual, it has to do with male friendships and how awful it is to find out a guy you considered a friend only wanted to fuck you.>>1399969
Also nothing to do with her boyfriend.
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Inb4 “this is a gossip board” - unsure whether she’s a minor but either way I don’t feel great about sharing this girl’s face when she’s clearly on the fucking edge. But here you go. Last pic is her and her friend crying in the crowd. Luckily we’ve never seen a pattern of overhyped fawned-on metal bros turn out to be total douchebags - oh wait.
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Jake is such an unbelievable tard. Imagine having all these travel plans and not even paying attention to the requirements, then acting like you’re so hard done by because - shock - Christmas is happening. Like it does every year. At the same time.
If this throws a wrench into his plans, I’ll call it karma, kek
>>1399991>crying in the crowd like they are experiencing beatlemania
It's his fat goth fangirls feeding his narcissism that led to him making that breakup video and thinking it would go down well.
I feel bad for these girls, genuinely, that a boring tosser like Jake is inspiring to them, get some music taste and some less annoying people to stan.
, do you really think asexual women never have scrotes pretending to be their friends to fuck them?
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“In case I’m not around for it”- idk if I’m reading too much into it or what
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Wonder how Jake's little trip is going…
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Spoiler image because it involves stumpy showing off his grublike torso and I want y'all to have a nice christmas eve.
The real question is 'why did she not try to find a job and get a place on her own months ago'.
If that apartment doesn't have heat/a shower, it's not a residential apartment and she's living there illegally. I agree with the other anon who suggested that the reason she's not living in the house is because if Jake let her live there 'until you can find your own place', she would come up with a never-ending deluge of excuses to be allowed to stay. This is the woman who could not work retail because standing for an entire shift made her FEET hurt too bad. She is not the kind of person who will put effort into making herself financially independent if she thinks she doesn't have to. Frankly, it sounds like Jake's been 'out of love' with her for a long time, and I completely understand why. He got together with her when she was fit and had an alt modelling career, and it seemed like she was going places with her life. For the past like…five years? At least? That hasn't been the case, to the point it's become a running joke on lolcow about how little effort Kaya puts into the one 'job' she has. People are completely allowed to leave their partners due to dissatisfaction in the relationship and the fact that he has continued to give her money for THREE MONTHS afterwards is above and beyond the call of duty. If her mental health is so poor that she cannot work a normal job to support herself - and from the SocialBlade analytics, Youtube has not been a significant source of income for her for a while - she needs to be on disability and go back to her family so that she's not living illegally in a non-residential apartment and accepting money from the guy who 'put her in this position'.
Jake is a shitheel, but Kaya ABSOLUTELY deserves credit for the position she is in because she has had THREE MONTHS to try to make her own money and get out of the studio space. She left it to the week before Christmas to make this video telling people how sorry and pitiful her situation is, but also in the same breath 'DON'T ASK ME ANYTHING ABOUT IT BC I'M SOOO SENSITIVE RIGHT NOW GUISE'
Come on, farmers, we are not dumb. We've been watching these two for years. Jake's a narcissist, but Kaya is a professional manipulator at this point, her income for years has been determined by how sad she sounds when she begs online for things she wants. She knows how to work an audience. We are NOT getting the full story from her, we're getting a carefully edited version of events that makes Jake sound as mean as possible and her sound as tragic and sympathetic as possible, while also plugging her Patreon in the hopes she'll get more $$ out of it and still won't have to find a real job. I can't honestly say I have any sympathy for her; ToxicTears may have started off as the more popular channel initially, which is why people are saying Jake 'leeched' off her, but she's 'leeched' off him just as much in recent years while refusing to work on herself, put aside any savings for rainy days, and expecting her & her boyfriend's 'fans' to financially carry her for the rest of her life - I don't know anyone who has that level of self-delusion without also having a severe personality disorder.
And like, I honestly respect Jake more for only spending 2 minutes on the topic and not 13. It's not anybody else's business, and Kaya even says she won't give out details and doesn't want people to ask about it (after she spent 12 minutes telling people how awful it made her feel, mind you). I've absolutely met the kind of person who goes around trying to ruin their ex's reputation after a break-up, and to me, that's exactly what TT's video looks and sounds like. 'Oh, he's ruined me! Woe is me!' - it is a fantastic way to get support and a like from the thousands of people who have suffered through their own personal experiences with shitty narc dudes, and has led to the biggest spike in subscribers/likes that her channel has received all year, so she's quite literally received more attention, money, and sympathy from this break-up than from anything she has independently done in years.
Also, I don't count 'sourcing tiktok videos for Jake's reaction videos' as being a significant contribution to the dude's career, all that means is that she was scrolling through the app, finding things that made her go 'teehee', and then showing Jake her phone. She could have absolutely made those her own reaction videos, but Jake is the one who took the time and initiative, so if nothing else I will give the dude credit for being a more motivated entertainer than she has been in years.
Tl;dr: Both Kaya and Jake are shitty people, and Kaya deserves her situation just as much as Jake deserves the backlash.
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>>1401117>The real question is 'why did she not try to find a job and get a place on her own months ago'.
They broke up in October, it's barely been 2 months, not 3. I'm apartment hunting myself (albeit not in Ireland) it's hard to find one.
Also, if Jake was "out of love" with her for literal years, why was he planning to make a huge life change with her (moving to Barcelona) a mere year and a half ago? They also went on vacation earlier this year in May for Jake's birthday and went to a fancy hotel and Kaya bought him a heaping pile of presents (pic related). Idk about you guys but if my S/O was "just a roommate" to me at that point, I'd feel bad. She might have been being supported financially, but he was definitely using her in other ways. He probably treats relationships like he treats jobs, don't quit your current one until you have a new one lined up.
Skimmed it. And nobody is denying Kaya is pathetic. We're just saying Jake treated her like shit and she might be less pathetic now.>>1401117>I've absolutely met the kind of person who goes around trying to ruin their ex's reputation after a break-up, and to me, that's exactly what TT's video looks and sounds like. 'Oh, he's ruined me! Woe is me!'
Damn anon. Which ex hurt you?
As for me, I just felt she was trying to deal with an emotionally taxing situation with restraint and selfcontrol, while existing as a someone with a public presense.
The fact he didn't say 'from Kaya' just 'prezzers' even though they are all clearly from one person by the wrapping paper, the narcissism runs deep with this one>>1401117
Seconding the not reading that autism, try and be more concise next time
>>1401117>I honestly respect Jake more for only spending 2 minutes on the topic and not 13
Aside from the irony of including this line in an absurdly long rant of your own, -
Gee why would anyone dedicate 13 whole minutes to discussing a 12 year relationship ending to an audience who have only known her in said relationship and are also very familiar with the other half of it? Baffling, 2 minutes followed by bragging makes much more sense!
(I'm not reading any more of your post, think I got the moronic gist)
Ntayrt and it really isn't that long of a post. What's the deal with the Kaya white knights. Both her and Jake are cringe edgelords, but she takes the absolute piss with how lazy and entitled she is. Jake at least works to be at the level of cringe he is. And it's only been 2 months. 2 months without a shower or kitchen would be hell, if Kaya wasn't embellishing to better beg that's mental that she is lazy and gross enough to still refrain from posting to YouTube to make money. And she's posted on her IG from inside her jeep. So she's still paying petrol, insurance and tax to keep the car but can't pay her ma maintenance to use the shower or found one of the 100s of house shares in Belfast. She could easily find a room for her and her cat in Belfast. Maybe the daft bitch thought Jake still wanted her.
And idk why anons are taking it so personal that Jake was using her. We've been saying for years. Why was he about to go to Barcelona with her if he wasn't in love with her? Uh, because he's been using her. Lurk more. Only people with an excuse to be that retarded is Kaya since she's the only dumb cunt that apparently didn't see how uninterested Jake was in her.
>>1401163>broke up [nonspecified date] in October>September, November, it is now the last week of December.
It's been 3 months, assuming they broke up at the end of October. If not, it has been longer than three months. And sure, apartment-hunting is hard, but staying illegally in a non-residential apartment is also not the solution. MOST people with an oz of common sense would try to find a roommate to move in with, or would go back to their parent's. The stuff about her mom MAYBE losing her welfare benefits for letting her daughter crash at her house until she can find her own place sounds like complete horseshit to me, the government is not going to remove your welfare because you have your unemployed 28-year-old child mooching off you for a short period of time and I think anons are just giving Kaya the benefit of the doubt out of sympathy.
Regarding Jake's ~romantic interest~ or lack thereof, I think it was pretty clear he stopped being sexually attracted to her after she gained like 80lb and was no longer the waifish alt-fashion model he first asked out, but it's fairly common for people to stay in relationships for years, even if they're unhappy, because a) sunk cost fallacy, b) they feel like there's not a 'good' reason to break up, or c) they're using their partner as a security blanket. C is especially true, I think, for both Kaya and Jake at this point. I'd like to agree with anons who say that this break-up will be 'good for her', but frankly as long as she is able to milk her audience for money and sympathy, she's not going to change. At this point, she expects the special treatment.
>>1401196>Ntayrt and it really isn't that long of a post.
Yes it is.
>Why was he about to go to Barcelona with her if he wasn't in love with her? Uh, because he's been using her.
I know, we've established that. No one here is trying to say he was actually in love with her. Do you have reading comprehension problems?
Ya boring. You add nothing.
Idk maybe my reading comprehension is fucked but I'm not the twat that keeps lamenting about why would Jake use Kaya to go to Barcelona or whatever the fucking point is then? You tell me
>>1401205>No one here is trying to say he was actually in love with her>>1401163>"Also, if Jake was "out of love" with her for literal years, why was he planning to make a huge life change with her (moving to Barcelona) a mere year and a half ago? They also went on vacation earlier this year in May for Jake's birthday and went to a fancy hotel and Kaya bought him a heaping pile of presents (pic related). Idk about you guys but if my S/O was "just a roommate" to me at that point, I'd feel bad."
That does sound like someone here trying to say that that he was actually in love with her up until recently, imo, so I can understand the anon you're responding to.>>1401209
She released this video on December 17th complaining about still living in the studio space Jake's renting, so… Yeah. If they broke up in October, and she is still there on December 17th, it's been longer than two months.
UPON RE-READING I owe you an apology, two months is correct, I have just already started on the eggnog today.
I still feel like that the point here is that it's WAY too long to be mooching off your ex. Like, offering to pay your ex's bills for a month just so they can land on their feet is already a very generous offer. But after that, she's a 28-year-old woman, she should have enough life skills by now to figure her shit out.
>>1401213>you add nothing
If by "adding nothing" you mean not writing autistic wall of text, then yeah, I do add nothing>>1401215
and I literally said
>She might have been being supported financially, but he was definitely using her in other ways. He probably treats relationships like he treats jobs, don't quit your current one until you have a new one lined up.
I wasn't trying to say he was in love with her recently, I was saying that he was out of love with her when he did those things but was using her to move to Barcelona, get presents from her etc. I'm saying he's an asshole for doing that for so long and not breaking up with her sooner and kicking her out the way he did.
>>1401233>prefacing your reasoning with 'if he was "out of love" with her' did come across like you were arguing that he really was in love with her at the time
Okay I guess you're right, the wording was kind of misleading, I should have been more clear. I DO think he was out of love with her all that time, I was more trying to argue that he was a narc, because a normal person would feel guilty/bad doing those things while not being in love. In other words he hadn't been in love with her for years, but was happy to pretend to be so that he could get relationship benefits like moving to Barcelona which would have been harder to do on his own (and which might have actually happened if not for the pandemic).
>he was - for example - openly flirting with his fans on Twitter. Which most people in a committed long-term relationships would have a real problem with. I feel a LITTLE bad for her because he's such a shitty guy, but it also seems like she was willfully ignoring stuff that was glaringly obvious to everyone else.
I wondered this too, and I feel pretty bad saying it but how did she not see this coming? Anons for years had been noting his disinterest in her yet she seemed blindsided. My guess is she was in denial, or he acted much more affectionate behind the scenes, or both.
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Funny to me how he seems to love 80's music now, when he mentioned hating it in previous videos, along with actual gothic music. Lol the posing never ceases. His fans have really short memories to put up with his bullshit.
Lol, all this exactly.
The bottom line to all this autism is that we’ve been saying he doesn’t like her for months/years, but he’s decided to tactically dump her ass as soon as he’s confident that he can get his way and not face significant backlash online.
>>1401242>How did she not see this coming?
Especially now because she's posting stuff like >>1397101
where he humiliated her on a livestream in front of hundreds, and she still did not pull the plug on that relationship after some full-on public disrespect. I would not have felt secure in that relationship, but it's also like - since both Kaya and Jake have been like, 'don't ask me about this', we have no way of knowing what was really going on when the cameras were off. He could have been sweet as pie when he wasn't pretending to be Goth Alpha Rockstar Joker for the camera.
I do feel like when one person is like, "it's over, would rather not talk about it, let's change the subject", and the other person is crying to a camera and making multiple posts about how awful the other person is and how bad they've been made to feel by their ex, one of these people is building a narrative to elicit sympathy. We've all had bad break-ups, but sometimes - usually - displaying the emotional wreckage online is not a good look and most mature people know that. And there's a part of me that's like - Kaya, if you don't want people to talk about it and you don't want people to ask you about it and you don't want people to invade your privacy, you yourself are BRINGING IT TO PEOPLE'S ATTENTION over and over again by publishing these posts and images about how upset you are.
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Looks like Scrotey McScroteface is still planning to go ahead with the US trip, covid be damned.
Spoiler image, as per the new guidelines.
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"I let her use my
house, but of course, when I'm not around, because I don't wanna have to even look to her anymore"
Here is the proof that he's lying when they said they weren't in love for years but stayed together because they were friends. He wouldn't treat her this way if they were friends. Would you put a friend out on the streets because you guys aren't fucking anymore? You'd have to be the worst to do that. I know some people who broke up while living together but stayed living together for months later until the lease was up because they were actually friends.
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He seems like a pretty typical narc, so it’s not unlikely there was lovebombing going on behind the scenes. He could have rationalised his standoffish attitude on social media with the ‘celebrity’/fan dynamic between him and his snaccs, where the celebrity/idol/influencer is more successful if the fans believe them to be single and available. Of course he couldn’t outright pretend to be single but he could have argued that being openly lovey to Kaya online would have cut into his stream donations or something. This is just me speculating, though.>>1401360
I agree that he wouldn’t treat her this way if they were truly friends. IMO it doesn’t prove he ever loved her, though, but rather that he has probably resented her for a while and was really biding his time until he could get rid of her.
Most people I've met do stay living in the house with their ex for some months. Someone I follow broke up with their ex like a year? or more ago, and they aren't fucking because she subtweets about not having sex for an eternity. But because they were friends, bingo, shoving one of them out in disgust obviously didn't seem correct.
Jake is really obvious and disgusting, he kicked her out with the express intention of fucking women in the house, otherwise what's the issue? "Friends" my ass.
Agreed. In my opinion, Kaya is lazy and whiny and entitled, but not actually malicious. Jake is a full on narc, and an absolute piece of shit. I'm interested in seeing where his personal trainwreck ends, and hoping he doesn't hurt any young impressionable fans in the process.
But I think we can all agree putting this dying horse of a relationship out of it's misery was a good thing. The way he did it wasn't though, nor was him dragging it out long after he lost interest in her for his own benefit.
Best case scenario: Kaya turns her life around (highly unlikely) and Jake crashes and burns, maybe catching an amusing venereal disease in the process. He'd better find somebody new to leech off for when the inevitable collapse hits.
in a perfect world i'd like to see a story arc where kaya loses the weight and goes back to making good content and basically proves that you can pull yourself out of a 10-year toxic
shitpit of a relationship and succeed,
but in all likelihood we are just going to watch her mope and e-beg for the remainder of her career while jake accumulates more braindead mallgoth fans until his career eventually implodes after he fucks a 15-year-old on tour or something equally gross.
This kind of made sense when they met. He's a few years (2? 3?) older than her. But that age difference is a lot more pronounced when you're teenagers than when you're in your late twenties or early thirties. So I can see him tellinv her that he was more mature and experienced, and should handle what little money they had. He did so badly, judging from them talking about blowing their dole money on sweets, but I can see why she went along with it.
What I don't understand is why this was still going on recently. Maybe Kaya was too lazy to deal with it. Or maybe she was worried about setting off one of his rage-filled temper tantrums. But either way she should have bit the bullet and gotten it sortef as an adult.
Even if Jake had been a kind, caring partner she would have spent the rest of her life with, having no access to her own money was stupid. What if he'd wrapped hos stupid motorbike around a tree and died? She would have been left with nothing.
This will also make it so much harder to find an apartment. Let alone having a bad credit rating. Imagine having no financial history at all.
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Her art is actually really cool if she would do more art videos people would watch it or she could sell art
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Wouldn't this be the first thing you cancelled if you were literally homeless lol. Some people and their priorities. Sympathy can only stretch so far…
That's a bit too wk-y anon, she's literally without a shower or kitchen and planning on getting tattoos and piercings?
Here's a solution for the rebooking problem, don't fucking get tattoos until you're financially stable.
“I’m freezing to death, exhausted from no sleep, and super depressed because I have no money or anywhere to live! Anyways, I’m getting a tattoo next month! Support me on p@treon”
Her priorities are so skewed, it’s laughable.
That, and she might not even have anything on her bank slips. If the money went directly into Jake's account rather than her transferring it, she would have very little proof of income of even the little money she made. She really fucked herself over by giving all her money to him. She has no credit history, possibly no payment history. No savings, nothing. Getting an apartment is hard enough at the moment, but with dozens of takers for every spot nobody is going to pick the self-employed youtuber who has zero financial history.
It's not solely her fault though. Stumpy was happy enough to benefit from their arrangement
If she's already paid the deposit I don't see the problem. She'll lose the money either way, but at least this way she gets a tattoo out of it. And as has been pointed out, at least it'll be content. But I agree with >>1401710
that if she had to pay a large additional sum, or booked an appointment after she became homeless, that would be dumb as fuck.
When are you going to learn how to Sage? You come here to call people out for being dumb yet you can’t follow simple rules to the place you’re posting to. You aren’t adding anything milky so sage your dumb shit already.
On another note…I’d be surprised if she were able to get anything on her own given her situation financially, but on the other hand I wouldn’t be at all surprised because it seems like these cows always find a way to make it work. I don’t understand what they think they will do when they are getting to retirement age with zero benefits, 401k etc. At least she’s admitted that she doesn’t want kids, that’s a relief.
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She’s starting to piss me off with her whining
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Well, someone's lying. My money is on Jake
I get the same feeling. Fact is in the UK it's difficult and expensive to find somewhere to rent if you don't have 18 months+ of payslips and landlord/agency references. If she was giving her savings to Jake (dumb, but we've all done dumb things) she prob is struggling to have the standard alternative of 6 months rent advance to secure somewhere. While we know how things should be, UK landlords tend to be scummy from the start. I was homeless while working 14hrs a day. It's a landlord's market.
With the tattoo, most good artists are booking appointments a year in advance currently, with 50% deposit. Plenty in her position wouldn't want to lose the deposit, and would want to go through with it to feel positive about themselves.
That is an excellent point anon. It's very likely that one of her parents cosigned for the old house. Probably her dad, since he seems to be more financially stable, and they were living at his house before, so he must have been eager to see them off
I don't know about NI. But in many places, if you live in a place for several months, you cannot legally get kicked out even if you aren't on the lease. Renters rights apply and you are expected to be served with a few months notice. Jake really planned this in the most disgusting way.
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Yeah. Because people try not to fly during a pandemic you twat!
Looks like stumpy is airborne.
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Sage but these are the NI rights for tenants and eviction. So if kaya was on the lease she is a tenant, if she was only subleasing from jake, her rights are posted below. She is considered a tenant of jake and needs to be informed at least 12 weeks ahead of time for eviction. She or her family could get really shitty if she wanted to, but she won't and they won't.
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She seems easily entertained, the tattoo thing will make her feel fine for a while.
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I’m assuming she didn’t make it back to her studio before the building got locked up but regardless, how the hell does she not have access to her keys suddenly?
I’m not sure what it is about overseas cows and YouTubers in general, but they all want to
Go to the LA area. I’ve never met a fellow American who is as enthusiastic to go to LA as these YouTubers are.
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Just stop whining finally and do it, get some help.
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Well, he's America's problem now.
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From his tagged pictures he looks pretty stumpy and normy kek
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Older pic but I haven’t seen it posted yet. I sense a new relationship announcement coming. Jake and K REEK of classic parasocial long distance internet “best friends”. K’s mannerisms on camera are so similar to Jake’s, in true narc fashion that’s definitely what’s driving his attraction (friendly or romantic). Sad and creepy all round when you look at what happened when he last formed a major bond with someone he met online.
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And imagine picturing yourself like that when you look nothing like that in candid pics.
Btw don't forget the other half of his audience, pudgy alt fans in their 30s picrel.
Sage but, Knowing his fans they probably triangulated his movements from posts and camped there till his plane arrived. Kek, waiting for that thing to get off the plane… >>1402637
Double sage. I've been suspecting this personally since the UK tour. He's even cut his hair off and looks more like fakeboi lolol but something tells me they really are just good friends. From experience though, if he is going to use her for a greencard (friend or otherwise) they're going to have to collect a lot of evidence to make it look like they have a serious relationship. Get a joint bank account, show an address with both names on the lease, So much work and he's not so famous that he can just get whatever fame visa they hand out to foreign actors etc.
We'll just have to see. I await the drama with popcorn.
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I'm not Kaya for using the term "chav", but his face really is that of a "chav bad boy" in these pics and the OP. That look must be attractive to his teenage audience somehow, but how idk. I don't know anyone irl or know of anyone as deeply pathetic as Jake. That's the only interesting thing about him.
Kiddies settle for so little these days, they need to raise their standards. Maybe it'd encourage wannabe YT stars to dish out better content.
Well, that's…certainly not how most people hug their platonic friends kek. That's a definite long distance grooming online girlfriend meeting for the first time
hug, I've seen that a few times from internet couples.
Her comment on his breakup video gave me "Holly supportive comment on Jared's Tweet" vibes - someone trying to be subtle but already well embroiled. And would explain why he's so checked out of the Kaya relationship, I wonder how long it's been going on for.
Samefag, just checked the tiktok, someone should make a webm for posterity but:>camera on ground>Jake starts running toward K>K runs towards him and leaps onto him >They spin around while he strokes her back
Very platonic indeed kek
Jesus. That is exactly how Kaya described their first meeting in >>1397015
. He really has replaced one naive idiot victim
with a more convenient one. Wonder how long it will be till he dumps K for another gullible twat with better prospects.
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You put it into words. Pic related? Lol
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Living with a partner isn't the same as subletting, if her name wasn't on the lease she has no right to stay.
This shit needs a spoiler tag>>1402829
That’s what I was thinking of ages back. He will probably use her for a green card and finally get to live his dreams in America. I wonder how long this will last?
We will see another itsblackfriday farce?
Same. K is apparently 28 so age appropriate at the very least.
They just did a podcast together where K basically hyped Jake up as some major creative entrepreneur and it got me thinking - him and Kaya were well past the obsessing over each other stage. When you’re living together for that long and have dealt with so many different life stages/mental illness/their whole “careers” etc, and the fact that she’s more interested in slow living than some crazy influencer lifestyle, I can’t imagine she was fawning over him because they were used to each other. K currently is, to an extent that goes beyond just “normal friends in their 30s celebrating life successes” imo, which never lasts very long term. Saged for autism and no image, just more fuel for the “Jake is a gross narc who is exclusively surrounding himself with fans” fire.
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NTA but here.
Spoiler image because Jake's face.
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The episode description is a little strange, it goes from describing him to I'm excited for the next chaper in my journey
and the roadtrip is in fact K moving house and Jake just decided himself tagging along was a logical thing to do. Considering his past history of going to visit Kaya and then staying there his intentions are pretty obvious.
Reddit thread with some interesting comments, similar to here and elsewhere most people are sympathetic to Kaya and think Jake is a heel kekhttps://www.reddit.com/r/internetdrama/comments/rlyypr/toxic_tears_and_jake_munro_breakup_its_like_night/
Someone speculated (apparently the redditor's boyfriend heard him say it somewhere in a video or stream, but that's obviously a questionable source) that the reason Jake was suddenly throwing money around is that his father died. If that's true, he's even more of a disgusting narcissist than previously thought since as far as you can see from his breakup video he thinks his life is going great right now…repulsive.
"How to build a YouTube Empire with Jake Munro"
Step 1. Leech off your more popular and "famous" girlfriend for years.
Step 2. Ditch her as soon as she's no longer useful to you.
god I looked at a few of her videos, she’s almost as cringy and annoying as he is.
onward and upward, Kaya ♥
Whenever you feel confused, check out the hands. She has lady hands.
British teeth, American woman. That's confusing.
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jesus. just how desperate is jake for that american visa. There's no way he's actually fucking this is he?
I wonder if that’s because she wanted the yaoi/Ken doll look or for practical reasons i.e. not wanting to deal with the possibility of them rotting off. Either way she seems to revel in showing off her scars.
Ngl I’m kind of hoping she’s also a narc so Jake can get a taste of his own medicine.
Major autistic tinfoil incoming, but I had been having thoughts like this, and I saw someone on Reddit saying something similar and it made me think.
But, as far as I know, Jake and Kaya still follow each other on IG. I don't follow Jake so I can't confirm, but I do follow Kaya and every time I click on Jake's profile it says "followed by toxictears".. but if you had such a bad falling out with someone, wouldn't unfollowing/blocking them be the first thing you do? I can't check Twitter though 'cause I don't have a Twitter account. Also both of their breakup videos came out on the exact same day only hours apart as if they had planned it that way. Not the strangest thing ever, but still.
Everyone has been speculating for years that Jake was uninterested in Kaya. Mere strangers on the internet could see this, but Kaya couldn't? What if they had been broken up already for a long time but pretended to stay together for clout, then decided that breakup drama could create even more clout and breathe life into Kaya's dead channel? Jake lost a few patrons and a couple thousand subs, but still has a myriad of stans and lots of support. Kaya has gained a lot of patrons and people are paying more attention to her now and has people begging to send her money on ko-fi, venmo, cashapp etc. Kaya says there's "no space" to sleep at her mom's, but went to her mom's house in a vlog once and it seemed like a sizable enough place (granted that was several years ago, Idk if her mom still lives there, she might have moved somewhere smaller). But you'd think that at the very least Kaya could sleep on the couch and leave all her crap at her studio even if her mom doesn't have an extra room or whatever, especially considering Kaya says she doesn't feel safe sleeping in her studio.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think any of this is true. I do think the breakup was genuine, and I don't think Jake would be willing to make himself look like such a jackass for Kaya's benefit, even to just lose a few patrons. But I just feel like some things about their breakup aren't adding up and there's more to the story than what we've been told.
I mean, who do those facial expressions look like? It’s Jake’s spiritual doppelganger.
My tinfoil is I don’t think there’s actually fucking happening, but it is the kind of weird super intense “best friends” relationship that’s normally reserved for 15 year old weeaboos (that tiktok looked like every “meeting my girlfriend for the first time” made by a literal child that I’ve ever seen).
What’s sad is that it seems like K is genuine but Jake doesn’t have the ability to feel real feelings. He’s American Psycho incarnate.
Since when, the most he's done is sell an ugly plushie of himself
>built a following baaed around his love of all things goth culture
What love? Apart from when he fakes it from time to time to stay relevant
That's good to know, I think him using inheritance to buy all that childish gear would be too much. Just simp money then.>>1403866
She tries to look uglier and male on purpose, I think she could scrub up nicely if she wanted to, but Kaya is clearly more attractive. It's a mix of narcissism (she's like a spergy female Jake) and visa hunting I think for Jake.
>>1404080>Also both of their breakup videos came out on the exact same day only hours apart as if they had planned it that way.
Kaya said in her video that they scheduled the announcement, it seems like some time ago since she also referred to him saying something months ago. I don't think they are really in contact anymore considering they both have a very different narrative, that redditor is giving Kaya too much credit to have orchestrated something. (I'm the anon who linked that thread above so I think I know which comment you're referring to)
Also no way Jake would be party to a scheme where he comes across looking like a tosser, he absolutely thought he would look good here and I doubt he previewed Kaya's video and approved it or anything.
(reads the end of your post where you refute your own tinfoil saying the same thing kek)
as you were.
>>1404400>Implying most of the commentary in this thread is "worthy"
I don't even use reddit but if you're that triggered
by someone making a pretty minor tinfoil you're the one who needs to take meds.
I thought so too but the internet couple meeting for the first time
clip suggests otherwise, that is not how straight men or lesbians greet male friends >>1402637
Think she's even wearing heels in it.
I'm the one who posted the reddit link and I never use reddit, I just found it while trying to find Toxic
Tears' old Tumblr, there was another thread I found which was pro-Jake and only had one reply kek. Don't think any of us are actually from reddit, I've been on lolcow for years.
Here's the post I was looking for, Kaya explains how she met Jake.
Compare and contrast to the K situation:
How did you and jake meet/become a couple?
"Hiya.:) Well, we actually met on bebo.XD Which sounds really bad. But we met on bebo and had eachother on MSN for a while but didn’t really speak at first, then one day we just started talking.
I was bored and joked he should fly over (he lived in Wales) and go somewhere fun with me. Then he realised he could actually fly over pretty easily. I wasn’t really sure at first (Bad break-up had left me STUPIDLY paranoid lmao) but he kept mentioning it and eventually I decided to ask my mum and she actually said yes (Which tbh I was really shocked by).
The first time he was meant to fly over something went wrong with passports, then the second time he was all ready to fly over and that bloody volcano in Iceland went off so no planes would fly.XD I was so gutted. But he eventually made it over.:) When I saw him walk through the arrivals gate I nearly fainted, then I ran over and nearly tackled him to the ground.XD I’d nearly knocked him over before he even spotted me!
He visited again a month or so later for my birthday for a week, then I went over to Wales with him for two. It was the best summer of my life. After that we visited again and only intended on staying for a week, but he decided he couldn’t leave me again, so he stayed.
Got a job, we got a house, and we’ve been happily together ever since.:3"
Yes. But he also stayed with Kaya for years when it was obvious he was no longer attracted to her, because she was convenient to him. If Kay can get him a greencard, he'll settle. Maybe trade them in for a tall skinny goff gf if one comes along that's a better prospect. There's a difference between what he wants, and what he'll tolerate for his own benefit.
This part is tinfoil. But narcs tend to like people with low selfesteem, or insecurity issues. Kaya had just broken up with someone and was younger than him. Just a few years, but that difference matters a lot more in teenagers. She's also a big lazy wuss pushover. So she was easy to controll. I'm going to assume that K has similar baggage, and is not super confident. Jake may think he wants a willowy goth goddess. But those tend to know they can do better and won't put up with his shit indefinately. And he needs to string them along for a long time if he wants to stay in the US.
His scheme is painfully obvious, he's a professional leech. His breakup video mentioned traveling with K in 2022 beyond this trip, so it's clear he plans on sticking around.
He really is a hobosexual kek, these descriptions fit him perfectly:https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hobosexual
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In other news, here we have izzy in chains defending their white friend for saying the n word on the basis that they're "lower class and disabled"
What even is this defence
Is she claiming being disabled and lower class makes someone too fucking stupid to know basic shit
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Different Reddit post where the Northern Irish community found Jake’s blog bitching about living there. A few people that have met him commented about how much of a dick he is. https://www.reddit.com/r/northernireland/comments/rs33gb/stumbled_across_this_youtuber_based_in_belfast_i
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I'm sure he will but that's not saying much. Aytakk is a cow who just hasn't been called out yet. His whole schtick is ragging on others and sucking his own little dick while being really cringey. Fat little goblin can dish it out but he can't take it.
he says the comment said "la chungus" right in the middle of the post. you might need to up your glasses prescription, nonny
My bad, I saw that part but I thought he meant something else lol.
But anyways. Threatening to not do anymore goth events because of one silly rude comment? How sensitive can you be, goddamn
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Isn't he constantly saying "If you don't get the joke, you are the joke"? That's pretty ironic since he tries so hard to turn himself into a meme.
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I'm an Amerifag so I don't fully understand what a chav is but I don't get how Jake can complain about them, isn't he basically one himself
In this old vid, a grown man in his 20s recording himself in a mall “finally snaps” at some chav kids and then records them. Totally normal behaviour.
“Chav” is a really shitty term used for a very specific stereotype of working class people. It basically means someone who’s dropped out of school, is unemployed, spends all their time drunk or on drugs, anti-social behaviour and other 2000s stuff like wearing specific brands of sportswear and cheap chains. Think Shameless. It’s hard to get across that Jake isn’t exactly a chav because on paper they sound so similar lol. It’s another big cliche that “chavvy” kids hassle random passers-by and cause chaos but honestly, all my posh friends in high school did shit like shoplift and drink on public transport too. It’s not hard to see that they’re just bored working class kids, have nowhere interesting to go in town centres, and have to deal with people shitting on them all the time. Pretty much everyone in the UK can say they’ve gotten shit off a group of teenagers in the streets at somepoint and unless it escalates to violence, the sane adult thing to do is move on. So not only is Jake (and Kaya’s, but especially Jake’s rants) hatred of them just not considered ~woke~ anymore, it’s weird to the point of dysfunctional. They both love themselves too much to tone down the circus clown look and not film themselves in very public spaces (vlogging is not super common and honestly cringe in most UK towns) to avoid being shouted at.
The boy is from WALES, next to England, neither of which are exactly renowned for glorious sunshine. People are bitching about how Kaya must’ve been so hard to live with but she at least TRIES to be upbeat, imagine spending over ten years with someone so angry and miserable after you literally helped him move countries away from an abusive
Does this chick actually listen to Goth music or she is just one of the 1,000s of other Goff girls who are only about the look and don't actually listen to the music?
That aside, I agree with >>1404727
Lower class and/or disabled people still know basic shit and if raised properly, especially know it's inappropriate to use racial slurs and think it's okay.>>1404928>Trad Goths are unoriginal
The fuck does she expect? Is she talking about the music or the looks? If it's looks I mean… Certain characteristics in the style appeal to many in the scene and will be applied to personal styles.
yeah no. can confirm there's def something going on between them, even if it's just a circlejerk; that's how every ldr ever hug each other when they meet the first time kek
wonder how long it'll be til they announce their relationship. >>1403066
i entirely agree, he's a classic narc. he just wanted someone to jerk off his ego, since kaya wouldn't anymore. he's def a huge narc, looking forward to seeing their new relationship announcement in two weeks kek
saged for autistic tinfoiling and not contributing anything, this is just my take on this lmaoi bet there'll be a ~new relationship~ announcement in the coming weeks
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My bad. Sorry. Thought I'd dropped this
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What's this now? (1/2)
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Come on anon we all know what it is, another quintuple spooky box. But she says she needs to get out of the studio asap so at least she's finally posting something.
I thought the point of stuff-for-content deals with brands was for marketing - why would a subscription box service want a video six months late after all the other subscribers have seen it?
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Not holding my breath considering how quickly she quits shit but let’s hope she actually commits to this bad bitch comeback arc.
Samefag, checked K's Twitter and:>Jake arrives 26th>Get to Nashville on the 30th
So it was a 3 day roadtrip not three weeks, why did he think it was three weeks? Or there were plans to travel after that? Is the man just a moron?
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K Retweet included intentionally, man really flew over to the US for a three day roadtrip
Good for her but
How can she afford it with no income and no house ?
That's how I read it too.>>1407187
She sounds eager to spill the milk on stumpy, but afraid of the consequences. Come on Kaya, do it!
And again - “they had felt like just friends for years”. What a lame scumbag - there’s no way that there wasn’t even a tiny impression of “huh, maybe I don’t love Kaya - maybe I should bring this up before I give her the okay to cut down her stuff before we move into the massive house that’s in my name”. I know we’re beating this word to death, but it’s pure narcissism. Even if she’s been and hasn’t helped herself over the last few years, this really is fucking someone who’s supposedly been your friend for ten years and ended on good, mutual terms over. So gross that his fans don’t see how this is off and doesn’t offset the fact that he bought her some shit and leased a second car.>>1407202
Not wking but it’s funny that I barely register having an Amazon wishlist as cow behaviour now; they always irritate me but fucking everyone has them now. Fans like the idea of buying gifts I guess. Rather people helping her furnish a new home after her whole life’s been turned upsidedown than dating hundreds and hundreds of dollars for sitting doing fuckall other than flirting with minors and old Facebook mom goths on streams cough
Not only that, but in Kayla’s new video she is mad and annoyed she can’t talk about things publicly. At one point she even says she tells her friends and they’re mind blown about the crap that’s going on.
I really wouldn’t be surprised if jake is returning to try and make sure Kaya is left with nothing. As long as she has the “sharing “ part documented for as long as they’ve been together, she does have claim to somethings. Assuming she can be bothered to goto court.
You just need one person to see how much they’ve been used with others pointing out they aren’t kids anymore and the adult world will kick you in teeth, especially if you go to court.
Isn’t her mom poor as fuck and her dad actually has money? Wouldn’t be surprised if Kayla’s dad helps out to kick jake in the ass
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Some possibly true new info posted in the reddit thread?
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Roly knows some of the tea
Lol sorry I deleted my post right before you replied. But I looked through that reddit thread and was going to look through that person's post history to see if it looked like they actually live in Ireland but their post had been deleted (the post is still up, you can read it, but it's not linked to their account).
There is a LOT of tinfoiling in that thread with 0 evidence. There are also lots people claiming to know Jake and/or Kaya personally with nothing to show for it. I wouldn't give it any credence tbh (but also wouldn't be surprised if Jake did actually cheat). And yes, I had that exact thought, that if married sidechick is real she might be the "Kaya looks trans" anon with a weird vendetta that has posted here multiple times over the years. Probably not, but still.
I don't believe any of these tinfoils BUT I do think there's a bit more going on behind than scenes than what we've been told.
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Suspicious. Every time there's positive Kaya posts in this thread your man Grant comes up on my fb as a recommended friend lmao. Wonder if they're the ones in the NI subreddit too
No offence to Kaya she seems like an absolute retard, but her lack of furniture is not a big deal. It's not like she has a place to put it. What's more concerning is that she, a woman approaching her 30s has no qualms about the fact she's got zero qualifications, no steady income or credit history. She sobviously not paying into a pension either. These things are far more important than her having second hand furniture.
And she's bragged about getting a new tattoo yet some anons giving her the benefit that she used Jake's money to already book it. And people now saying she must have booked the PT with Jake's money even tho earlier itt it was said Jake paid for the PT. She's still driving her jeep around that costs money in petrol (which is very expensive atm). She probably still has her scooter. I guess she definitely got rid of all her pets because she hasn't moaned about having to feed them.
She's lazy and entitled. She wants to attack Jake's rep since he has more subscribers and has a stable income in comparison to her. She needs a wake up call. No one wants to carry a lazy partner. If the sexes were reversed and a guy was gurning he got dumped and wasn't allowed to still live with the person people would think it's too bad.
Meanwhile maybe Jake found out he is bi, but fucking a tranny is mental and comes with some many more issues than the fat lazy girl he left behind. Wonder who he'll try out next.
>>1407604>No offense to Kaya>Proceeds to call her a fat lazy retard
Kek I don't think you know what "no offense" means. Anyway tbf she said in the video she would be happy to sleep on the floor at first if she was able to get her own place. Also the only animal she had was her cat, Sebastian, who is with her mum. 99% sure her snake and other pets died a long ass time ago.
The thing that bothered me most about her video was that she kept saying she was looking for a "house to rent". Why not an apartment? Renting a house is going to be more expensive I believe… she should just rent an apartment until she has more stable income. Or maybe apartments in NI don't allow pets at all? But I kind of doubt that. Or maybe she just meant "house" as in "place to live" but I kind of doubt that as well.>>1407501
I don't think he does, she just kept saying there was a ton of stuff she wanted to talk about but couldn't, so he's probably referring to that.
Think more they realise who all knows actual details about the break up and posts here lol. That's why it was good one of her mates posted that on reddit, I could figure out the identity of some users.>>1407614
Lol well she is a fat lazy retard. She peaked in grammar school. She's always had an air of entitlement around her and now that Jake has stopped paying for her lifestyle she wants to cancel him.
Funny that her pets died and she never mentioned it but she was depressed over that swan she couldn't gender correctly and harassed some actual person with learning difficulties over and he at least knew the sex of the swan. Kaya is pathetic. She slags off Northern Ireland the same way her fat ex boyfriend did. She has made comments about chavs and rude comments about people from Belfast. Take it no one wants to sniff her feet anymore like when she was younger.
Depends on the snake, the morph (some popular morphs have genetic weaknesses because of overbreeding) and a host of other factors
But also general care, diet, and habitat. So as a general rule, yes. But it's hard to say.
Criticism is fine, I’ve done more than my fair share
But a random guess “SHE JUST WANTS TO DESTROY HIM” isn’t a critique on her shown behaviour - it’s a guess with nothing to back it up
Travel visas are strict, maybe he was only using a few days to meet K and then he wants to go back in the Summer?>>1407814
Also this one posted in her local subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/northernireland/comments/rs33gb/stumbled_across_this_youtuber_based_in_belfast_i/
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I was amused by Voltaires comment…
Honestly Voltaire is a prick but I hope she does collab with him
I hope other youtubers offer to collab, just so Jake can seethe because I can’t imagine anyone outside his weirdly obsessive fan base would ever wanna collab with him on anything. Dudes talentless
And Kaya isn’t exactly an amazingly talented creator herself but she does do crafty things - I could see her expanding from unboxing content to doing more of that
More vlogs would probably go over with her audience well
Exactly. I am rooting for Kaya because I wanna see Jake revealed for who he is. Of course she is no angel but in this specific situation he is so obviously wrong, was so cruel and scummy to someone whose major fault is being lazy and not responsible or mentally well enough to make the best decisions for themselves, so people wanna see some kind of "justice" being made.
It's truly awful to unnoficially espouse a 16 year old girl because you needed somewhere to go far from your family and someone to help and support you, then you spend the next like 10 years living off of her until you can be on your own so you just breakup the relationship and tell her to just leave. And all the while you are managing all of her earnings, because it's ~our earnings, babe~ so she's left with nothing. To put it simply. You'd have to be pretty fucking mean to think that she deserved it, no one who's together for that long, with shared everything deserves this. "Oh but she should have done this and that to help herself" yes, she should but of course she trusted the man she's been with since 16 and her family approved…
I bet you he'll have another official social-media-personality sidekick relationship very shortly, maybe this K.
This user seems like quite the nlog pickme, really supporting men "getting tired of women after a while" and "going their own way" yet claims to be female. And are racist towards Irish women calling them "uneducated" while calling Jake a "successful male" since springboarding off a woman's success and using her, before dumping her in a cold studio with no possessions or savings is the epitome of successful
These notions are gonna come back to hit her in the ass before long if she really thinks all this, but believes she is the exception. They also constantly threaten to dox people and call them crazy, Jake's supporters sure are special. They claim to not know who Jake and Kaya are yet seem to have gone in swinging in that thread, really odd. https://www.reddit.com/user/xxmonsterflamexx
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These comments of hers are sending me. Jake’s snaccs truly think he’s a god among men and that Kaya can’t do shit without him when she literally made him.
No, not a big age difference at all, the thing is: she's been with him since
she was 16. So that makes her almost 30 with no serious-relationship experience, not before him and obvs not now. I imagine it's quite easy for a 16 to like 21 year old to believe in the power of love or something and being overly trusty and getting screwed over by someone with bad intentions, regardless of age. Get it? I'm sure could've been anyone with any age. I'm not saying he took a child out of a crib, he admitted himself several times that he only moved quickly to NI because he wanted more than anything to escape his family, not specially because of Kaya. he's a leech regardless of his age
I've been raking through that thread a bit trying to figure out if retarded NLOG is K, they are both part Native American which is my biggest clue and retarded nlog says she was born in the late 90s (K is 1993 according to one of those random sites that automate youtuber profiles)
Retarded nlog also describes Kaya as a blow up doll
at one point which seems like an insult only someone who looked like K would come up with since Kaya looks perfectly normal to everyone else. Also weird beef about overweight women (K is skinny)
The friend with the deleted account is someone from pre-Youtube who has reached out to Kaya again now Jake is out of the picture, idk about the cheating story but that person otherwise seems legit to me based on their interactions.
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What is her baggage kek
He is a musician. He doesn't make goth music but he is somewhat famous in the goth scene for being a goth himself. He also made a "gothic homemaking" series on his YT channel with a lot of tacky decorations from places like Michael's.
According to anons a few threads back he has a reputation for being kind of a lecher, though I don't know of any examples of that. I don't think he's ever been seriously accused of assault/harassment (that doesn't mean it never happened though). He also fell in love with a Twitch streamer half his age and then wrote a Taylor Swift style break up song about her when she broke his heart (this stuff is in older threads but Idk which one).
He also used to (and maybe still does, Idk) hang out with Isabella Karnstein, another cow with her own thread who is one of those kitten girls who has those kink sex parties or whatever and used to be part of Father Sebastiaan's cult. Oh, and as soon as Voltaire was mentioned in these threads, his Instagram became private immediately never to be made public again that I know of.
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Jake is undoubtedly a pos. But that doesn't change the fact that she's insufferable. She wouldn't do it even when she had a full kitchen and she likely won't do it if she has one again. Whatever someone suggests to her it's "OhHHhHhH I would buuuut…" If she ever does do something she makes up reasons why it actually wasn't good, lists 10 made up things that went bad when she was doing the thing. It's very annoying. I hope she starts managing this shit now that she's on her own.
Someone in the comments of her last video said that people support her because of the wonderful community she's created on YouTube. What community? She hasn't created shit. Her unboxing things and saying "omg how kyooot" isn't doing anything.
The only good thing to come out of this is that she hopefully finally learned(late)that she needs to have her own money and that she can't just hand over everything to a fucking man.