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No. 1593482

Alicia Silverstone is an actress, a vegan activist and a mother, most famous for her role as Cher in clueless, over the last 2 decades or so she has gone off the deep end, getting into various insane vegan hippie beliefs and practices(unironically believing in karma and claiming tampons cause infertility), what's most concerning however is her overly "close" relationship with her son, Bear Blu Jarecki, she
>breastfed him tell he was 9
>took baths with him tell he was at least 10(whether she takes baths with him as of now is not known)
>sleeps in the same bed with him
>posts various videos of them kissing on tiktok

she also posts daily on Instagram, tiktok, her blog and her youtube channel, she is not at all shy from revealing her retarded opinions and doing insane shit

Her blog
https://thekindlife.com/
Her and bear's tiktok
https://www.tiktok.com/@aliciasilverstone
Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/aliciasilverstone
Twitter
https://twitter.com/aliciasilv
YouTube channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSK0C4JWEWuAfjfoVNCetZw

No. 1593484

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Alicia Silverstone Reveals She Still Sleeps(in the same bed) with 11-Year-Old Son Bear: I'm 'Following Nature'

>During an appearance on "The Ellen Fisher Podcast," the 45-year-old actress shared a few details about her attachment parenting style and revealed that "Bear and I still sleep together."

>The "Clueless" star shares her 11-year-old with her ex-husband Christopher Jarecki, and joked that she would "get in trouble for" her comments by critics. "I don't really care," Silverstone laughed off any possible judgements.
>Bear and I still sleep together," she said, noting that she is just "following nature" with her parenting style.
>"If you were in any kind of wild setting where there are animals … if you put your baby over there," she said, pointing away from herself, "your baby is going to get eaten. It's not ideal for the baby to be over there."
>The actress also explained the "elimination communication" parenting tactics she would employ when raising Bear, and shared that she would rarely use diapers when teaching her son to potty train as a toddler. Instead of diapers, Silverstone would "watch his cues" to know when he would need to use the restroom.
>"There was a period of time where I was watching him naked and watching the cues," Alicia continued. "The cues part for me was really fun because I thought that he was flirting with me because he would do this little smile. That's when he had to pee."
>Silverstone also explained why she didn't end up having additional kids, sharing that she wanted to "savor every moment" of Bear's life first.
>"I wanted to have more [kids], but then my relationship got messed up, and it wasn't a great time to bring one in," she said. "I didn't want to have one right away because I was so in love with my Bear." "I wanted to squeeze every little moment out of him, so it wasn't until he was like 3 that I was ready to make another baby and then I didn't have a partner, so that's why I don't have four babies."
>In November 2020, The actress revealed that Bear cut his long hair.
>"My baby's growing up 😭💔 I miss his hair!!!!! Was it his decision? Yes. Did I cry inside as I watched him get it cut? Maybe … but did I try to stop him? Not for one second," she shared in an Instagram caption.
>"The reason he chose to keep it for as long as he did was because he loved it so much!!!" she continued. "He just wanted to try something new. Although I have a feeling he'll find a way back to his long hair again in the future. No matter what though, I will always support my sweet, caring, and precious little boy in every decision he makes. ❤️🥰"

No. 1593485

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she had him breastfed till he was 9 and he's not vaccinated nor has he ever taken any medicine in his life according to her
>“He’s never had to take medicine in his life,” she told Page Six of her 7-year-old son, Bear, on Thursday. “He can get sniffles and a runny nose but he’s not down, he still goes to school. Two times in his life has he been like ‘Mommy I don’t feel good,’ and it was only for a few hours and he was back running around.”

No. 1593488

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they took baths together with her till he was 10,
>The Clueless star has revealed she and her son Bear have been soaking up some quality time together with shared baths during the lockdown measures imposed as a result of the coronavirus pandemic. And the actress has claimed that they find the activity ‘nourishing and comforting’. Silverstone explained: ‘My son and I take baths together, and when he’s not with me, I take a bath and that really feels nourishing and comforting.’
>Alicia – who has Bear with her ex-husband Christopher Jarecki – also said she and her tot have been doing other activities together, including dancing, bouncing on the trampoline and jumping rope. And the duo are focusing on maintaining their vegan diet, as the 43-year-old actress says her mental health is affected by her eating habits
>She added: ‘I always bring everything back to diet. When I don’t eat well, I don’t feel well, and then my moods go all over the place.’ Alicia says she turns to fresh herbs, greens, miso soup and ginger tea to keep her body healthy, and for her mental and physical health she takes daily long walks, practices yoga and meditation, and keeps a journal
>The Lodge actress also spoke about the bullying she has received because of her decision to have her son follow the same plant-based diet as her, as she said people have referred to her as ‘the freak’. Speaking to The New York Times newspaper, she said: ‘People said lots of different things, and I was sort of “the freak,” and I guess I’ll take pride in that because it is hard to be the person that’s speaking out, and it is hard to be the person that is saying the thing that isn’t what everybody else wants to hear.’ And the star claims the vegan diet keeps her son’s behaviour level as she told US Weekly: ‘I can tell you that from the get-go, I think of him as a brown rice baby because I ate brown rice when he was conceived, when he was in my belly and when he was on my boob, and now he eats brown rice. ‘The centering, grounding energy of that nourishment in his organs has left him such a calm boy

No. 1593490

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regarding parenting from her blog (https://thekindlife.com/category/parenting/
>I can savor every moment with my son. And holy moly is it magical.
>Most days, taking care of him and making his food, hearing his stories, and, of course, snuggling with him is the most divine, delicious thing ever.

Reviews of her parenting book:
>There are many parts of this book that deal with choices that we as expectant mothers and new moms will have to make, both medical and lifestyle choices, and when the book delve into those, it was incredibly judgmental, hurtful even, and you can tell that the author is talking from a place of great privilege. The worst part is that she seems oblivious to that. I was vey uncomfortable when she talked about traditional cultures and their birthing and childrearing practices. Many of these women do not have any other choice, and to highlight these lack of choices as something that is essentially better and more pure was probably the most insensitive part of the book.
>As a scientist, a vegetarian for over 20 years and a fan of all things natural, I want literature that is balanced and provides solid scientific background to all "natural" claims. That is not what this book gives you. Instead, this is a one-sided diary of a rich, spoilt woman who uses every page to piss on medicine that brought mankind to where we are now. It is insulting for women and couples fighting infertility from the very first page. It is degrading for women and very successful at pulling them away from their nature because everything is portrayed through idealised hippie worldview. Women don't have a "hoo-ha" and a "chichi", they have vaginas. There's no place for language like this in a book dedicated to the period when thorough understanding of your body and its functions is a must. I won't even start about all the anti-vaxer nonsense. Absolutely disgusting and a sign of being totally detached from real life and uneducated about one's own body. Not everything can be cured and prevented through food and to claim it the way it's done in this book is highly irresponsible. Alicia should consult specialists when writing something like this or rebrand it into a work of new age fiction

No. 1593491

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Her making out with her son

No. 1593492

>>1593484
why do people that could be fine at parenting have to take it way too fucking far

No. 1593494

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This one is the creepiest btw

No. 1593499

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even excluding her weird ass relationship with her son, her helath beliefs are uttery idiotic as well

>She claims that using tampons can lead to women having fertility issues.

>"Your chichi is the most absorbent part of your body," she writes.
>"Unfortunately, feminine-care manufacturers aren't required to tell you what's in their products, which means that no one's talking about the potential pesticide residues from non-organic cotton and the 'fragrances' containing hormone-upsetting, fertility-knocking phthalates that are snuggling up to your hoo-ha."
>She also spoke out against vaccinations, claiming that anecdotal evidence has led to her beliefs.
>"While there has not been a conclusive study of the negative effects of such a rigorous one-size-fits-all, shoot-'em-up schedule, there is increasing anecdotal evidence from doctors who have gotten distressed phone calls from parents claiming their child was "never the same" after receiving a vaccine
>"And I personally have friends whose babies were drastically affected in this way."
>The 37-year-old also suggests in the book that postpartum depression is ‘less common’ among women who adopt a vegan or plant-based diet.
>She also claims veganism can cure fertility problems, illnesses such as lupus and other

No. 1593507

>>1593499
>chi chi
I can’t take her opinion seriously if she won’t say vagina

No. 1593509

>>1593499
Do you think she talks like a sped because she only spends time with her 10 year old

No. 1593518

>>1593484
what a load of bullshit, she doesn't sleep with her son cause its "natural" or whatever bullshit, rather she's just using him in place of a partner, she probably failed every romantic relationship she's been in, so she's building up herself her own ideal male partner/companion, who happens to her her son

No. 1593522

>>1593484
This is hilarious, thanks for the thread anon

No. 1593524

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Weirdly though she'll let anyone babysit him apparently
>You’d think that celebrities would be the most private and cautious people on the planet when it comes to their kids.
also more inappropriate mother son kissing
>Not actress Alicia Silverstone.
>“It was the most random day ever,” says Roxy, a 26-year-old Sydney nanny who Alicia hired to babysit her son Bear Blu, 5, and a friend’s son, August, 11, in July this year. “She didn’t check my

No. 1593528

Okay sleeping next to her son and bathing with a 10yr old isn’t all that strange. Pretty normal around the world. Many cultures out there. But this other shit is WACK.

No. 1593546

>>1593528
like what

No. 1593555

Many people unironically believe in karma and bathe with their children or give them a kiss. This feels like a shit vendetta thread. If anything she belongs in the celebicows thread

No. 1593571

>>1593528
I don't think bathing with a 10 year old in your own home is all that normal, to be honest.

No. 1593576

>>1593524
This is definitely not normal. She has no healthy boundaries with her kid. Posting him half-naked online is real dumb too.

No. 1593588

>>1593555
You should read a bit more closely if you think any of this is normal

No. 1593589

>>1593571
I'm not defending her and I realize her beliefs are wacko and she's possibly behaving this way because she's mentally ill in some way but bathing with a 10 year old in your home is normal in Europe and other places which are not midwestern america. Bathing with your own 10 year old child is not a sexual act. It's not like he's 16

No. 1593594

>>1593589
Yeah it's not about the bathing, it's all the stuff she says about him that's wacko
gonna tl:dr the stuff right above
>Instead of diapers, Silverstone would "watch his cues" to know when he would need to use the restroom.
>"There was a period of time where I was watching him naked and watching the cues," Alicia continued. "The cues part for me was really fun because I thought that he was flirting with me because he would do this little smile.
>"I wanted to have more [kids], but then my relationship got messed up, and it wasn't a great time to bring one in," she said. "I didn't want to have one right away because I was so in love with my Bear." "I wanted to squeeze every little moment out of him, so it wasn't until he was like 3 that I was ready to make another baby and then I didn't have a partner, so that's why I don't have four babies."
>And the actress has claimed that they find the activity ‘nourishing and comforting’. Silverstone explained: ‘My son and I take baths together, and when he’s not with me, I take a bath and that really feels nourishing and comforting.’
>I can savor every moment with my son. And holy moly is it magical.
>Most days, taking care of him and making his food, hearing his stories, and, of course, snuggling with him is the most divine, delicious thing ever.
>>1593524
Haven't read this article but the headline says it all, no mother should be passionately kissing their son or vice versa, that's incest. The way she describes physical interaction with him and her own unhealthy boundaries is veryyy weird.
And it's not like she has to save on bathwater or something like is the most common reason to share baths.
Breastfeeding until aged 9 and co-sleeping until 10 is also a choice, considering how she talks about him.
It's weird how tolerant people are of this stuff, like heaven knows what kind of man he will turn into after all this, I assume a very fragile, needy one with absolutely no boundaries with his future partners

No. 1593604

When people excuse this kind of thing from a boy mom, you just have to swap the genders and ask if you would think this shit was okay if it was a dad doing it with his daughter.

No. 1593624

Is there anything on her being abused during her time as a child actress? I know she was in one really messed up faux lolita movie when she was like 16 (where her 14 year old character was portrayed as the evil seductress). Most child actors act in eccentric and dubious ways due to csa. I can't imagine it not happening to her too in the 80s and 90s

No. 1593659

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yo i was reading her wikipedia page & in 2012 she was feeding her son chewed up food from her mouth like a fucking bird? on her blog https://thekindlife.com/home-video-breakfast-with-baby-bear/

No. 1593672

>>1593624
Even if she was abused, this is still disgusting.

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>>1593594
>"There was a period of time where I was watching him naked and watching the cues," Alicia continued. "The cues part for me was really fun because I thought that he was flirting with me because he would do this little smile.
what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck

No. 1593682

>>1593681
same, i can't even click on the videos. i can't believe she's showing this off publicly

No. 1593685

Jfc, what the fuck have i just read. She's gone insane. Someone needs to take that kid away from her, she fetishizes/sexualizes her own kid. idk she sounds like fucking pedo. in the very beginning i thought she's just HYPER overprotective mom who can't let go of her kid, but the jokes about her toddler flirting with her? passionate kissing? blergh

No. 1593699

>>1593484
>>1593485
jfc. I had no idea Alicia Silverstone was this insane!! She is grooming that child to be extremely dependent on her. How is he supposed to socialize with other kids his age?

No. 1593702

>>1593699
Right? Homeschool saga incoming. Very very weird.

No. 1593704

What's with the father of that kid though? is he taking care of him? he could try to fight for parenting rights
i mean. anyone from that family should. grandmothers, aunts, who-fucking-ever. Alicia's not right in her head, her kid is alread fucked up.

No. 1593705

>>1593604
100 percent. It's weird, creepy and grooming behavior.

No. 1593708

>>1593589
It's weird because 10-year-olds can bathe themselves, anon. They might need supervision if they're a little slow, but you don't have to literally get in the tub with them. The behavior comes off as creepy and possessive because she clearly doesn't want the kid to do anything without her. She's terrified of him becoming independent so she treats him like an actual baby. What's she going to do when he grows up and sees this stuff all over the internet?

No. 1593710

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I was looking through her IG and… yeah. Explains a lot.

No. 1593712

>>1593594
>heaven knows what kind of man he will turn into after all this
The kind that murders a series of women.

No. 1593717

jfc is Clueless cursed or something? Brittany Murphy dead, Stacey Dash insane, now Alicia is unhinged as well. if Paul Rudd dies or does some freak shit soon I will not be surprised

not at all shocked about her being a crunchy antivax out of touch hippie because that's a standard personality lately for a lot of GOOP-leaning white woman celebs, but god the shit with her son especially >>1593675 >>1593524 >>1593494 is what's really getting to me. she's so stupid for thinking he's not going to absolutely resent her in his teen years for essentially borderline-grooming him like this. either that or he'll be mentally and emotionally stunted and give off that homeschooled-cult kid energy from all the coddling. anons saying this kind of thing isn't abnormal in non-US countries, yeah maybe the bathing thing if he was like, 6 years old max, but the combination of everything she does all at once is so unnerving. once kids reach double digit age especially, it's really important to give them their own personal space, no matter how close you are to them. and she's sharing all this freely with no issue so imagine what she ISN'T sharing. there's no way this story doesn't end up fucked one way or another

No. 1593721

also >>1593604 this exactly. if you're freaked out by Liev Shreiber but not Alicia idfk what to tell you

No. 1593747

>>1593717
>isn't abnormal in non-US countries
Eurofag here and no, this is not normal. 10 year olds definitely bathe on their own already. and if they can't stand shower for example bc sensoric troubles or what, the standard is that you fill the tub/shower floor (damn forgot how it's called but you know) with water and put your kid in, and the kid can do the rest. wtf? same with sharing bed. the only time parents share bed with 10yo kids is when kids are really scared after nightmare or whatever, but even then it's generally frowned upon and at that age kids sleep in their bed. but here it's clearly Alicia seeking that sort of contact, not the boy. and feeding your 9 year old kid by breast STILL? nah, it's almost like deviancy in a way.

No. 1593749

samefag, i think the kid is doomed for fuckedupness. BUT i hope he comes out one day against his mother in the media, like they did against Die Antwoord.

No. 1593781

This has the same energy as those weird Moms who go through a divorce and start using their Son or Sons as surrogate husbands then when the sons get older they can never have normal relationships with partners because the moms always butt in with the type of shit you see on that Justnomil subreddit so it usually ends in divorce, she was with her husband and father of Bear for 13yrs before the divorce in 2018 you've gotta wonder if he was creeped out by this or she lost intrest in her own husband as her son got older

No. 1593967

>>1593781
Fuuck me I hate this so goddamn much ew

No. 1593972

>>1593675

The flirting this is absurd. There’s absolutely a method of potty training where you basically let them run around naked, and they figure it out pretty quick through the first couple of accidents.
Everything isolated is kind of…eh. But when you put it all together- it’s just really feels gross.

No. 1593974

>>1593972
The flirting, passionate kissing, her inappropriate comments (her projecting or interpreting sexual undertones from her child's innocent behavior), he's definitely a surrogate spouse(learn2sage)

No. 1593983

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>>1593781
Yikes. The kid looks just like the dad too. Where the fuck is he at.

No. 1593993

Never thought I would see this woman in /snow/. I need eyebleach

No. 1593998

This article is from July 20
>In an interview for The Ellen Fisher Podcast, the Clueless alum, 45, shared that she and her son Bear, 11, still sleep in the same bed together.
From Yahoo

No. 1594004

>>1593688
This is sweet anon but there's no way her sick fucked up peers don't know exactly what she is. No one will do shit. Her woo woo thing is a cover for her obvious pedophilia.
Also I can't be assed to go back and find it but there is a tiktok where she asked her son what his favorite project she worked on is and he said Excess Baggage. I've never seen it… dare I wonder why it is his favorite…

No. 1594009

>>1593494
In isolation this would be kinda cute. But even in isolation, that whole open mouth kissing is just wrong. I don't think that's normal anywhere in the world.

No. 1594011

>>1593704
Unless the kid is being harmed outright or any allegations of abuse is being shown, there really isn't anything the law can do.

No. 1594013

sage cause this might be a reach, nbut bare with me, there was a film I saw a couple months back with Alicia Silverstone, it was a unique low budget post-apocalyptic survival film, one of the major plot points was a romance between the main character who was 18 and Alicia Silverstone's character who was recently divorced, I originally thought it was based having a romance depicted between a hot young man and an older woman, but now seeing elements of the film with what I've discovered in this thread, some details of the film start seeming "iffy", cause the mc is a young man who has lived in his entire life in woods, living as a survivalist away from society, he's basically the most perfect/idealized version of what she probably wants her son to be(he also kind looks like him) and they fuck each other in this film

No. 1594015

>>1593721
What did Liev Schriber do!? (Sorry I prob spelled his name wrong)

No. 1594021

>>1594015
more details in the hollywood child abuse thread(but essentially he and his wife seem to have groomed their son to troon out and he dresses incredibly sexualized female clothing despite being a 13 year old boy)
>>>/ot/1268024
>>>/ot/1268286

No. 1594039

This is so fucking horrific he’s gonna end up killing someone I’m calling it now

No. 1594041

>>1593589
Eurofag here, it is absolutely not normal. Sorry your parents were insestious nona

No. 1594044

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>>1594013
here's the actor and her son, they do kinda look alike

No. 1594047

>>1594041
Really depends on what part of Europe your from

No. 1594086

>>1594041
Burger here, you know, the culture in which Alicia is doing all this vile behavior, and yeah same. Absolutely not normal, it's a screaming red flag.

No. 1594110

>>1594041
ntayrt but it's normal in Asia where water is regulated and gets turned off at certain times. not defending her she's totally batshit insane but it's not always incestuous, in poorer parts of europe it's definitely a thing as well

No. 1594172

>>1593491
>>1593494
Are we watching the same video? I don’t get how this is weird in the slightest.

No. 1594193

>>1594172
so you came here to say that fondling your (half naked) 11 year old son while kissing him open mouthed and saying you love him is normal? i'm sorry you had to experience incest yourself

No. 1594194

>>1594193
nta but that was an older vid of them, she even says it in the vid

No. 1594197

>>1593589
I think gender matters here too. Universally boys stop bathing together with their mother at a younger age. I was about 10 when I stopped bathing with my mother, but my brother was about 6 or 7.

No. 1594203

>>1594193
"open mouthed" anon, she just kissed him on the face, are you from a crazy repressed family?

No. 1594207

>>1594193
The 1st vid is completely innocuous, maybe the 2nd one I can kinda see what you are saying, but he is way younger than 11 and I don’t see the open mouth kissing (idk maybe I just missed it). The amount of affection you give a child is culturally variable (and her culture isn’t general American, it’s Hollyweird New Age culture).

I’m more creeped out by forcing a growing child to be vegan and the fact that she is fucking up his childhood by using him as her social-media plaything than the so-called “incest.”

No. 1594209

If most Americans aren’t kissing and hugging their children and have never slept beside their children, then that really explains so fucking much about them.
I’m is not at all excusing Silverstone’s other vile and cringe behavior, but damn some of you are sad.

No. 1594210

>>1594203
I was going to screenshot it but I don't wanna end up on a list. The kid clearly kisses her on the mouth when he starts to sing with her.

No. 1594211

>>1594209
Americans sleep with their toddlers and babies. They peck their children on the cheek or on the lips, not a 5-second liplock.

No. 1594220

>>1594209
Going near a kids lips with your own lips is weird as fuck. I would never kiss a child on the lips, even a peck. That's reserved for my partner not a child. You can be loving without doing that. That's just me. We see her kissing his open mouth in the video. Just very very inappropriate. Coddling children is abuse and leads to personality disorders and other developmental issues. I don't know why you're defending this so vehemently, it's really weird. Maybe you have some things you don't want to admit.

No. 1594223

>>1593491
>>1593494
I’m sorry your parents don’t love you
I mean she is insane but nothing strange in these videos particularly
“Making out”… the fuck…

No. 1594231

>>1594220
I’m just in culture shock, what can I say.

No. 1594236

>>1594220
Kissing on the lips is European, open mouth kissing is incest pedophilia.

No. 1594238

>>1594223
She is strange, yes, which is why these kisses are alarming.

No. 1594244

i think the correct version is somewhere in the middle, be close to your children without starving them emotionally, but don't treat them like a partner. as someone on the receiving end, it doesn't make for a good adulthood. looking at the videos and photos, it's unhealthy to be this close, the kisses and touch go on for a tad too long (shorter versions would be okay) and this will be toxic to the child later on

No. 1594273

>>1594244
In my opinion there is a difference between cuddling and coddling. Typically you can’t cuddle too much, but you can coddle too much. Rocking a toddler in your arms and giving him a few kisses is cuddling. Literally chewing all of his food and never weaning off breastmilk, as Alicia did, is extreme coddling, she was practically doing everything in her willpower to prevent her child from challenging themselves and growing.

No. 1594286

boymoms are insane.

No. 1594288

all former child actor/actresses are FUCKED UP. every single one of them has suffered child sexual abuse or at least sexual harassment because hollywood is disgusting. not that it excuses their actions but it sure puts it into context when they do fucked up things.

No. 1594293

>>1594283
That's worrying that you really think this isn't abuse.

No. 1594300

>>1594293
Its not, its a bit creepy but this is neither physical, sexual or emotional abuse

No. 1594302

>>1593710
this makes me want to cry

No. 1594303

>>1594293
The way some anons are wking this woman to such a degree is just bizarre. She is the type of boymom that would defend her son no matter what he does. And I really mean no matter what.

No. 1594304

>>1593494
lol this isn't "incestuous". burgers are just weird about physical contact. personally it does gross me out, but it's pretty normal affection? i mean if you watch great apes with their babies they are super physical like this. i think it's sad to deprive a child of physical touch and it's why we're so weird about a lot of things, imo.

No. 1594308

>>1594303
no one is denying that boymoms who idolize/coddle their son's don't exist, this specific thread is about her weird ass borderline Incestuous relationship with her son, she's using him as a surrogate husband which is all kinds of fucked up

No. 1594310

>>1594308
Oh no I was was agreeing with you nonna, sorry my post might seem confusing

No. 1594335

>>1594283
Then make a fucking thread about them, nobody's stopping you. Dump all the milk there, don't try to clog up this thread.

No. 1594348

>>1593524
since no has posted this yet
>Actress Alicia Silverstone has said her son tried to mimic her Clueless kissing scenes after she let him watch the nostalgic film
>Even though she said Bear "loved" the 1995 classic, she soon realised it may have not been the most ideal time to let him watch it…
>During an interview with Entertainment Tonight the actress, 45, said: “'He saw Clueless when he was five, because it was on at the Hollywood [Forever] Cemetery… Four thousand people came to see and I couldn't pass that experience up, of watching it under the stars, pillows on the ground with rosé.
>She added: "But, at the time… he loved it, but what he really picked up [on is] he tried to kiss me, like, passionate kisses, because that’s what he saw in the movie."

No. 1594357

>>1593717
I'm surprised this kid isn't bullied relentlessly as is. Come on, kids do your job so he can detach from Alicia.

No. 1594362

>>1594283
It's because there is a lot more content/milk available with Alicia vs. Schreiber and Martin and maybe a little bit because we relate better with women so it's more mind-bending and to see this behavior from one of us.

>>1593710
This could be an image of her before dance class with a leotard under the sweater but who knows…

No. 1594365

>>1594273
>Literally chewing all of his food and never weaning off breastmilk, as Alicia did, is extreme coddling, she was practically doing everything in her willpower to prevent her child from challenging themselves and growing.

This, her intentions are abusive, to create such unnecessary reliance where the kid needs her to eat or drink outside of babyhood. She's in the US, there's no need to do any of the things she does, you have sanitation, access to water, premade food, formula (usually) and any kinds of drinks. It's batshit and abusive to create unnecessary reliance and artificial scarcity like she has, and the anons defending it definitely have some skeletons in their closet.

No. 1594366

>>1594365
you are way too liberal with what you consider abuse

No. 1594369

>>1594366
Okay anon then how come literally everyone in this thread thinks Alicia's relationship with her son is creepy/abusive/incestuous except you?

No. 1594370

>>1594366
Yeah nonna, stop erring on the side of caution and accept that she is just really a loving hippie!

No. 1594371

>“I wanted to have more [babies], but then my relationship got messed up and it was not a great time to bring one in,” she said. “I didn’t want to have one right away because I was so in love with my Bear. I wanted to squeeze every little moment out of him so it wasn’t until he was 3 that I was ready to make another baby — and then I didn’t have a partner, so that’s why I don’t have four babies.”
at least she's not dumb enough to keep making kids with an ex-scrote, like the kartrashians, amber heard, etc

No. 1594373

>>1594369
creepy yes, but not abusive

No. 1594375

>>1593717
Exactly. Taken alone, a lot of this stuff could be considered weird hippie parenting but essentially harmless (well maybe not the “passionate kisses” and breastfeeding until 9, that shit is weird in any culture.) It’s everything together in the aggregate that paints a picture of unhealthy enmeshment and refusing to let her child individuate or do things independently. He is either going to grow up unhealthily attached to her, or go in the opposite direction and resent her.

No. 1594376

i believe this kid is a tad retarded. usually children tell their clingy parents to fuck off by the age of 10, regardless of how coddled they are.

>>1594360

in my opinion it's more because she's a "safe" and fun cow and nobody actually thinks she's raping her son, just your run-of-the-mill bpd mom that nonnies enjoy talking about. while with liev schreiber we don't know for sure what's going on, but it looks very dark and nothing you can kek at.

No. 1594378

>>1594373
Creating an environment where your 10 year old is dependent on you for everything and you never let them out of your sight because you're using them as husband replacement is abuse, anon. Straight up.

No. 1594381

>>1594376
also as >>1594362 stated she has a youtube channel, a tiktok and blog where she posts frequently, she's open about her social life to the general public, other celebs are probably just as fucked up as her but there better at hiding it and not posting it on the internet

No. 1594384

I wanna know what she was doing when she hired the babysitter sight-unseen. What was so important? Kek I imagine a man showed a modicum of interest so she dropped her son like a hot potato and hired some random to watch her kid on that day.

No. 1594386

>>1594220
That’s very cultural nonna, plenty of people around the world kiss their kids on the lips. It’s usually just a peck though, I’ve never seen a culture where open-mouthed kissing between adults and children was considered acceptable. I 100% think there are some weird/creepy aspects to her parenting but a lot commenters seem to be burgerfags who grew up on Dr. Spock-era “cry it out” parenting, and don’t really get that attachment parenting is the norm in many other parts of the world. The bigger issue for me is that she’s putting all these private moments with her kid on social media.

No. 1594388

>>1594220
>That's just me
That is just you. Kissing on the lips, as long as its just a peck, isn't really that strange in other cultures. Even men do that to each other sometimes. Not defending her really lax attitude with her kid btw, just saying

No. 1594389

>>1594386
Nta but the fact that she puts it all out there on social media makes it even more sus to me. Pedos love signalling to other pedos about their proclivities. Especially hollyweird ones.

No. 1594391

>>1594388
A peck on the lips isn't strange, as we've been saying. It's these extended kisses they're sharing which are disconcerting. In the singing video he does kiss her with an open mouth. Where did he learn that?

No. 1594392

>>1594389
Samefag but that's also why I think the video of her kissing him on his neck (looks like it's his first day of school maybe) with her panties showing squigs me out. And the video with the dog pinning her down with her pantied crotch exposed. I don't trust these hollywood degens for one second. That industry is crawling with pedophiles AND people who look the other way.

No. 1594393

>>1594388
>Even men do that to each other sometimes
For real? Where outside of the old USSR communist party and mafia initiation rituals?

No. 1594397

>>1594393
My backyard.

No. 1594398

>>1594393
>Where outside of the old USSR
Well you named the only ones I know who do it. I bet you some Mediterraneans do that but aside from that one Godfather scene, I have no proof.

No. 1594410

>>1594398
AYRT I live in a mediterranean country and it doesn't happen. I thought you were going to name some muslim or Indian place where men go around holding hands or whatever kek. At least that's what qweers said a few years ago. The USSR thing was just a symbolic shit for high-ranking politician or something. Sorry for derailing aliciachans

No. 1594413

wonder how she'd react if bear ever got a girlfriend, how would she feel about that

No. 1594423

>>1594413
That’s the thing, he’s about to hit puberty. This is where problems with extreme attachment parenting typically start, since kids want more independence and privacy around that age. How she reacts to his individuation attempts will make it clear if she’s just a wacky hippie mom with poor boundaries or something much darker.

No. 1594426

>>1594410
Lived in “Muslim or Indian places” and can confirm men are typically more affectionate in public with other men there. Not sure what that has to do with Alicia though.

No. 1594432

This is from a blind item so no source but it's gotta be true:

>The husband complained to one of his friends about her bathroom habits. Or, rather, her interest in his bathroom habits.

>She was obsessed with sh*t. He told me she wanted to know when he pooped and what it looked like. I am not kidding you. She is obsessed with health and thinks that the poop tells all. He used to think it was funny, but then he just decided that it was disgusting and she should just mind her own poop.

No. 1594433

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>>1593482
this whole situation is giving me lady arryn vibes

No. 1594435

>>1594373
You either have no idea what abuse is or you're one of these creepy moms yourself that think this type of affection is normal.

No. 1594454

Is there anything actually milky going on with her or is this thread just eurofag vs burger infighting central?

No. 1594458

>>1594454
Did you read the thread or….

No. 1594462

>>1594110
yeah but isn't it like, when there's water shortage, one person baths in the water, then walks out and next family member walks in? meaning, they use the same water, but don't walk in the tub all together. from what i understand, Alicia sits in a tub next to her son.

No. 1594463

>>1594462
Nta but There are unsurprisingly photos of them bathing. He sits in between her legs.

No. 1594467

>>1593589
>bathing with a 10 year old in your home is normal in Europe
Not it's really not. Maybe you're confusing going to a sauna, public bath house/SPA or hammam with your same sex children and taking a bath with your grown son. I really hope so.

No. 1594472

>>1594366
jfc imagine thinking letting your 11 yo passionately kiss your mom the way she did on the movies and chewing food for him is totally alright. or joking about "flirting" with her as a toddler. OR breastfeeding the fucking 9 year old. i'm leaving the same water washing and sharing bed, you can argue some ppl do it, but the rest of it that i mention? whiteknighting THIS? what the fuck is wrong with you anon?

No. 1594475

>>1594426
Just discussing in which exotic, non-existent country they do things remotely comparable to what Alicia does. Sorry I offended you?

No. 1594482

>>1594236
Where in Europe? So I can laugh at you if you're wrong.

No. 1594488

>>1594475
Relax, we just said that nonnie was kinda overreacting with the pecking thing. Nobody said that what she's doing is normal.

No. 1594539

>>1594467
I never said it was normal, In fact I stated it was pretty effing creepy but its not abuse

No. 1594562

>>1594539
Anon what I quoted literally said : "bathing with a 10 year old in your home is normal in Europe", if that wasn't your post I wasn't replying to you. Someone said that bathing with your 10 years old kid is normal in Europe, I replied that it's not normal in Europe except in some specific contexts where that wouldn't even count because you wouldn't be stuck in a small bathtub with your naked, grown child. I'm not the one who used the word "normal" first.

No. 1594579

>>1594539
Anon my guess is that you didn't even read the fucked up info in this thread, you just like Alicia in clueless so you're blindly defending her.

No. 1594592

Where is the father in all of this? She’s very open about being weird with this kid and overexposing him on social media, but he’s content with letting her have custody? Seems like the scrote is neglectful at the very least.

No. 1594598

This ongoing discussion just proves how variable parenting is not just cross-culturally but intra culturally and across generations. Alicia’s parents were English Jews, so maybe that’s why she’s more touchy than the average Englishwoman or American.

I personally think those videos are completely normal in my culture, but what is wrong is posting it publicly online when, as someone deep in the industry, she 100% knows about what goes on in Pedowood and who might watch her videos. Usually Pedowood parents are pretty protective about their children’s privacy for obvious reasons, but she uses him as a prop to promote her hippy shit. I am afraid she might even trans him because he’s wearing long hair and chokers now and that is a trend among Pedowood parents.

No. 1594604

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>>1593494
so this normal in yall culture….

No. 1594612

>>1593710
This is really triggering my latent antisemitism.

No. 1594613

>>1594592
They divorced. He was obviously weirded out by her bullshit. They share custody though so I wonder what that's like. See:
>>1594432

No. 1594619

>>1594598
Thankfully she allowed him to cut his hair >>1593484

No. 1594630

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This is old like >>1594619 said, his hair is cut now but whew

No. 1594660

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>>1594630
no that's him for a year ago, seriously you can see from her tiktok that the kid has normal hair now, vidrel was from three weeks ago

No. 1594687

>>1594660
Yeah, that's what I said

No. 1594778

>>1594598
Yeah I don't believe that shit. It does not do a child good to be that touchy and open mouth kissing them that much. If she's like that on camera she's like that at all times and probably worse.

No. 1594832

>>1594598
I think plenty of us can attest that parents can do subtle things that aren’t abusive enough to intervene, or are normal somewhere in the world, but still fuck up your sense of boundaries and cause issues with socialization for life. Who cares if you don’t think it’s technically abuse, the end result is still a messed up adult.

No. 1594880

>>1594592
>>1594597
Lol can't you just browse google to get the basic answer that they're divorced and only share custody? Along with the fact that there's no legal ground for taking the kid away from her since there's no allegations of abuse right now.

No. 1594943

>>1594660
This vid is from three weeks ago? He clearly has his long hair styled in ponytails in this video

No. 1594954

Yikes I had no idea Alicia had gone totally nuts, but it's not like I kept up with her since, what, the early George W Bush years at the absolute latest? She looks terrible and the son stuff is frightening but at least I guess she's not trooning him out? Yet?

No. 1595259

Can you stop screeching about "but muh Other Cultures", we should be comparing what she does to other parents in the same goddamn culture. "But saving water in poor countries–" and she is not saving water in a poor country, "but in the whatever country men kiss each other on the mouth" and she is not a man in a whatever country kissing another man.

Sure it's important to note that parenting and the relationship between parents and children are different in different cultures but the issue here is that e.g. breastfeeding your kid until he's 9 is deviant in her culture. Whatever hippie woowoo about not having your kid wear diapers can go under weird white rich hippie woowoo culture but I really doubt thinking your toddler is flirting with you when he needs to go is considered normal in ANY culture.

No. 1595542

recently watched this mini-doc about her fucked up life, so finally here's some milk that has nothing to do with her son

>at the age of 5, her father basically saw her as an investment, he wanted to use her for fame and fortune

>at age 6 he had her do bikini clad photoshoots and he'd send these pics to modelling agencies
>at age 8 she became a full time child model
>after that she did some ads and had a stable acting job in the wonder years
>her "big break" however was in 1993, when she starred in a stalker romance film, The Crush, she was 15 and had a kissing scene with a 29 year old actor and was highly sexualized in the film
>she was nominated and won an MTV music award for this role, in the "Most Desirable Female" category
>after that she starred in a number of pervy straight to DVD films
>between 16 and 17 she starred in 3 music videos for the band Aerosmith, all 3 were sexualized, but the last one was controversial even for its time, it had alicia and steven tyler's 16 year old daughter, as schoolgirls who sneak out, sell lewd photographs to horny old men, enter an amature stripping contest and end the night with a an erotic pillow fight
>however it was cause of these Aerosmith music video's she got her big break, as director Amy Heckerling saw her and wanted to cast her in an upcoming TV sitcom(that would eventually become clueless)
>clueless was a massive commercial and financial success and Alicia became a star
>she finally could choose the roles she wanted
>and she choose batgirl in Joel Schumacher's Batman and Robin, which was a massive failure
>many dissatisfied fans started blaming her and started making jabs at her appearance, calling her fatgirl
>it was only in her 20's, away from the influence of her parents and skeevy agents that she was allowed true control of her, she would never attain the level of fame she once had and only did minor roles in the 2000's but she was doing what she wanted on her own terms

this doesn't excuse her creepy behavior with her son but it didn't come out of nowhere, this came as a result of her own highly sexualized childhood and adolescence

No. 1595608

I don't why people are moralfagging over gossip. I don't think this woman is the worst person in the world but she doesn't need to reveal so many personal details and post videos online.

>>1595259
Yeah I think this is a good point. This child is going to grow up so maladjusted. But things like breastfeeding until 9 aren't normal anywhere.

No. 1595610

>>1593546
Some Americans, think hippies (but most don’t go past age 9/10) it’s still seen pretty taboo here. Many many East Asian counties - Japan, Korea, China etc . Some European countries. That’s all I know and I’m a little to tipsy to name them all off this second, maybe later tonight anon.

But I’m no way saying this womens relationship with her son is normal, and I think her bathing with her 10yr son has more sinister intentions than when other families do it. - you know just to get clean and bond, not sexual anything. With all the facts in this thread this women is definitely a pedo. It’s just sad really.

No. 1595616

>>1595259
I can’t agree with the first part because I know many Americans communities that do in fact bath together with their children (before they hit puberty) and it is common amongst many many cultures, even in the states. But this thread isn’t about bathing is wrong or right with your kids. it’s about all the actions into account. The breast feeding until 9 while bathing around 10 and passionately KISSING excuse me what the flying f u c k ?! All of this together makes the fact she is bathing with him out of ordinary. If it was a normal family with none of this almost teenagers drinking out your tits, then the bathin wouldn’t even be a problem. Yeah some people think it’s strange but some people fart around their family, some family would never. There’s no cookie cutter rules of what’s okay and what’s not for little things that don’t matter. Facts are this women herself should not be bathin with her child.

No. 1595621

>>1593555
She's not relevant enough to be a celebricow these days and if you think how she relates to her kid doesn't make her a horror cow I sure hope you don't have any kids yourself.

No. 1595735

today i learned this womans insane, cool

No. 1596033

>>1595542
omg how could I forget about the music videos?? thanks for the rundown of that video nonnie this is all very disturbing and relevant information.
>fatgirl
lmao brutal

No. 1596271

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Psychologist and Parenting experts slam Alicia Silverstone, 45, for STILL sleeping with 11-year-old son Bear, warning bizarre attachment parenting practice will give youngster 'boundary issues', limit development - and leave him prone to bullying

>Parenting expert and psychologist Reena B. Patel criticized Silverstone's parenting styles, specifically, her co-sleeping with her son, adding that Bear is much past the age where it's considered acceptable to continue to share a bed.

>'When a child begins to question the difference in genders, hits puberty and or starts to show discomfort is when to stop. It can be as early as five years of age,' Patel told DailyMail.com.
>The mother-of-one (seen in 2020) said that she still sleeps with her tween son, claiming that she is simply 'following nature' by sharing a bed with him and experts have criticized her
>Clinical psychologist and best-seller of three parenting books Dr. Laura Markham said that overly attached parenting is 'irresponsible parenting'
>Is 'attachment parenting' healthy? Inside the controversial practice followed by Silverstone
>The practice of attachment parenting focuses on eight 'principles', which begin while a woman is still pregnant with her child.
>Attachment parenting is intended to ensure an incredibly close bond between a child and their parent through practices like breastfeeding, co-sleeping, joint bathing, and natural childbirth. While some insist that the technique nurtures a healthier, happier relationship between parent and child, critics have warned that attachment parenting can cause children to be overdependent, while increasing the stress placed on their parents.
>Parenting expert Reena B Patel noted that 'when a child is a toddler,' they should begin sleeping independently.
>The parenting expert added that a prolonged attachment parenting style can cause 'boundary issues' and 'lead to challenges in other relationships'
>Many other experts have claimed that overly attached parenting is 'irresponsible' and after a child is no longer a toddler parents need to learn how to take a 'hands off'
>Co-sleeping has also been called out as one of the more potentially-dangerous aspects of the practice, with critics warning that bed-sharing with a baby can increase the risk of sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS).
>The parenting expert added that prolonged attachment style parenting can lead to a reduced amount of 'exploration freedom a child receives, can create co-dependence, may limit independent skill development and can lead to challenges in other relationships. '
>She added that 'when a child is a toddler,' they should begin sleeping independently.
>'It's important to clarify how one would sleep when at other houses and how to rewind and provide affection to others when at school and visiting extended family, or when mom isn't around to bond with,' the psychologist said.
>Patel noted that a prolonged attachment parenting style can also cause 'boundary issues.'
>Further more, the parenting expert even said the overly attached parenting techniques can impact Silverstone's love life by not allowing her enough 'alone time.'
>She added that Silverstone's overly attached parenting style would more than likely cause issues for Bear in the future and added: 'It can [lead to bullying and] social effectiveness should be considered and at that age.'
>The parenting expert continued by noting that Bear should 'try to sleep independently.'
>'As they get older there are sleepovers and camps. What would happen in those situations. When a child gets ready to move out or go to college.'

>Silverstone has been known for her 'alternative' ways of parenting, in her 2014 book, The Kind Mama, the Clueless alum compared letting her baby sleep in a crib to 'child neglect,' and in 2020 said her and Bear often wake up and 'snuggle for two or three hours' before she bathes alongside him.

>She added that her way of parenting was 'loving' and focused on genuine communication and cuts out things like TV from her home.
>Silverstone then joked that she would 'be in trouble' with mom-shamers, but added that at this point in her life 'I don't really care.'
>Clinical psychologist and best-seller of three parenting books Dr. Laura Markham said on her parenting blog Aha! Parenting that attachment parenting is beneficial up to a certain extent, but when children began tor grow overly attached parents need to learn how to take a 'hands off' approach.
>Dr. Markham added that although toddlers have a 'fierce need for connection with their parents,' they need be allowed to 'explore' without being 'over-controlled'
>The psychologist added that parents who use the attachment style as a set of parenting techniques rather than a theory are 'over-controlling'
>In 2012, Silverstone sparked furious controversy when she revealed that she fed her then-11-month-old son by pre-chewing his food and passing it from her mouth directly into his mouth
>The Columbia University Alum added that 'good parenting' is knowing when to take a 'hands off' approach.
>The psychologist noted that many parents often take the attachment parenting style too far, and begin to 'over-parent, because they believe the attachment parenting style is a 'set of rules' rather than a 'theory.'
>Dr. Markham further criticized those who continue to co-sleep with their children grow older, adding that it's not a practice of attachment parenting because it doesn't respond to the 'developmental' needs of the child, and even went as far as to call the technique 'irresponsible parenting.'

>Berit Brogaard D.M.Sci., Ph.D is a Professor and the Director of the Brogaard Lab for Multisensory Research at the University of Miami and has told Psychology Today that overly attached parents are 'typically no less estranged from their children than neglectful or indifferent parents.'

>She added that parents who raise their children with standards they believe to 'perfect' such as refusing them screen time or fast food creates a lifelong need for the parent to control every aspect of their children's life, while their child grows up with an 'unsuspecting' need to over compensate and an expectation to never fail.
>Silverstone, who follows the attachment style of parenting, said she rarely used diapers when potty training Bear and 'snuggles' him for two to three hours when they wake up

>Despite criticism from experts who say she is exhibiting 'irresponsible parenting'; the actress added that she 'doesn't care'

>Going her own way: Inside Alicia Silverstone's VERY controversial parenting practices
>2012: Actress sparked furious controversy after sharing a video of herself feeding her then-11-month-old son like a baby bird, revealing that she was pre-chewing his food and passing it to him from her mouth to his
>2014: Silverstone said in her book that she was anti-vaccination and instead relied on a vegan diet to keep her son healthy, claiming he had 'never been sick'
>2014: Her book, The Kind Mama, also laid bare her decision not to circumcise her son, despite Silverstone being raised as a Jew, writing: 'If little boys were supposed to have their penises "fixed," did that mean we were saying that God made the body imperfect?'
>2020: In an interview with the New York Times, Silverstone admitted that she an her son still took baths together
>And although Dr. Markham recommends parents take a step back as their children grow and set 'limits', Silverstone seems to be following her child at 'every turn.'
>In spite of clinical psychologists and parenting experts, fans of attachment parenting insist that the technique nurtures a healthier, happier relationship between parent and child, critics have warned that attachment parenting can cause children to be overdependent, while increasing the stress placed on their parents.
>Silverstone has opened up about her unconventional parenting practices in the past; in 2012, she sparked debate when she shared that she was feeding her then 11-month-old son by pre-chewing his food and spitting it from her own mouth directly into his.
>At the time, the actress defended her techniques by noting that 'people have been feeding their kids that way for thousands of years.'
>In 2014, the actress once again sparked furious controversy when she revealed that that she was anti-vaccination, and instead relied upon a vegan diet to keep her son healthy - claiming at the time that he had 'never been sick' as a result of his plant-based food diet.
>'I'm not against Western medicine,' she wrote. 'The problem is we're using it as a first step for everything, even when it's not needed.'
>The actress continued: 'There is increasing anecdotal evidence from doctors who have gotten distressed phones calls from parents claiming their child was "never the same" after receiving a vaccine. 'And I personally have friends whose babies were drastically affected in this way.'
>Silverstone has shared her passions for natural living ever since she gained widespread recognition following her roles in The Crush (1993) and Clueless (1995), despite being met with criticism from parenting experts and fans who have said the mom-of-one is 'ruining' her son.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11037019/Parenting-experts-claim-Alicia-Silverstone-45-exhibiting-irresponsible-parenting.html

No. 1596281

>>1595542
So her father took bikini photos of her when she was 6 and she was considered old and fat by 19, no wonder she got messed up in the head. Fuck Pedowood. I just wish she wouldn't continue the cycle with her own kid.

No. 1596287

>>1595616
Thank you! Anons are pulling individual actions out of context and saying they're "normal in other cultures." No shit, but it's everything TOGETHER that makes it creepy. What's more believable - that Alicia did comprehensive research on parenting practices all over the world and selectively chose these ones based on effectiveness, or that she's just a creepy helicopter parent who lacks boundaries?

No. 1596302

This is fucked up. Does anyone remember Katherine Marion? This reminds me of that situation.

No. 1596311

>>1596302
I remember. Kaelin made it out alright, at least

No. 1596314

>>1596271
>, also laid bare her decision not to circumcise her son, despite Silverstone being raised as a Jew, writing: 'If little boys were supposed to have their penises "fixed," did that mean we were saying that God made the body imperfect?'
I have no idea why this is so controversial. Cutting a child's healthy genitals is mutilation, no matter the sex.

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>>1596302
>>1596311
for newfags unaware, Katherine Marion was a vegan sexworker in her 50's who was sexually abusing her young son, CPS finally took the boy away when he was 16 and he grew to be a somewhat normal person

No. 1596336

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>>1596328
and picrel was the boy at 17

No. 1597099

>>1596328
>>1596336
What the fuck am I witnessing

No. 1597154

>>1596271
There seems to be a whole category of parents who can’t wrap their head around the fact that their kid is supposed to be an independent, functioning adult one day. It’s beyond fucked up that molding your kid into mommy’s little partner forever is even considered a ‘parenting style’

No. 1597176

>>1597099
So am I gonna die in seven days now or what?

No. 1597182

Anyone who has kids know she's just being creepy. Especially as a burger, she's pretty much letting her attachment ruin her son. Co-sleeping and bathing aren't weird and depending on gender, they stop at different ages. Usually boundaries don't need to be put up because children will start preferring to sleep alone and bath alone when school starts. I've never seen a healthy kid who insists on co sleeping unless they've had a bad dream or something. They'll be the first one to tell you "i can bath myself." Alicia is forcing the behavior with positive re-enforcement. Look at how she weeps because of a hair cut and insisting he'll probably want it back. I bet he was pretty forceful with wanting it cut where she couldn't manipulate him into keeping it how she liked it. The way she puts her hands all over it possessive and unnerving too. Whether she's from a culture with more physical contact or not, she's clawing at him like he was a pet chihuahua.

No. 1597193

>>1597182
can't she get a boyfriend or something, what would be the appeal of having an 11 year old boy, be your surrogate lover

No. 1597205

>>1597193
She's a pedo duh

No. 1597207

>>1597193
Probably the fact that he can't leave her until he's an adult and, even then, he might be too dependant to leave.

No. 1597710

>>1595542
She has a somewhat nude scene in "the crush" where she's only 15 as well. Super fucked up.

It's pretty obvious she's been groomed from a very young age and seems to be doing the same to her son. It's both horrifying and sad she's continuing the cycle of abuse. While her father exploited her for fame/money, she's clearly using her son's love for her to fill some sort of void she must feel she has been missing in her relationship with adult men. This poor kid is going to end up so fucked up.

No. 1598202

>>1596314
That's true. I can't believe that shit is even legal anywhere around the world.

No. 1602343

>>1596314
Circumcision is not mutilation you retarded ape. It’s a hygiene practice so public transport doesn’t smell like a Gouda festival being held in a barn. It doesn’t affect their health or sexual function whatsoever while FGM completely eradicates all pleasure & literally kills girls en masse. If it weren’t for the constraints of this digital realm I could beat you to death with a GRILLMAX panini maker for saying this

No. 1602348

>>1602343
instead of teaching my kid to wash his hands, I’m just going to cut them off

No. 1602349

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>>1597193
she already has one, just look at them lovingly making out in public

No. 1602354

>>1596314
You are retarded

No. 1602358

>>1602348
The foreskin is Satan’s hat. Hands are normal human organs.

No. 1602417

I slept in bed with both of my parents until I was maybe 8/9. They were separated, so it was my one parent and me in bed. I also bathed together with my mother for years, because I liked how she washed my hair for me. I kiss my mom all the time, because I love her. I don't see the problem, only that she's a boymom, who can be so creepy, and that it is all posted online. Childhood should not be broadcasted.

No. 1602420

>>1602417
Yeah. My mom died when I was as a kid and so I slept in the same bed as my dad for a few years because I was scared/sad/depressed. A lot of it is circumstantial whether it's "weird" or not.

No. 1602433

>>1602343
> Amerisharts are too fat and lazy to teach their kids basic human hygeine practices.

No. 1602434

>>1602343
Men can and should just take showers like normal fucking people, you know that?

>>1602417
>>1602420
It's not that strange, if you told me you were taking baths with your father on a daily basis at 10 years old and he'd explain your entire life online for all to see with pictures of you in your underwear though? I'd be worried.

No. 1602436

>>1593494
Sorry is this video from now? The child in this video is 11years old? Veganism is actual childabuse

No. 1602437

>>1602436
Oops my bad just saw pictures of him from now but still stand by veganism being child abuse

No. 1602441

>>1602358
foreskins are normal too. it’s the male equivalent of the clitoral hood. cutting that off is clearly harmful and fucked up. why is it different for men?

No. 1602456

>>1602354
Why am I retarded for that? You are hurting a child for stupid "aesthetic" reasons, and if you're Muslim or Jewish, for some skydaddy crap. And don't give me that AIDS excuse. The studies are inconsistent and you should be teaching your kids to use protection anyway. How can you bring a child into the world and inflict pain on their first days of life like that?

No. 1602468

>>1602343
I live in the uk where most nobody is circumcised and yeah, it makes no difference as long as men shower every day.
Plus circumcised men have sad dry cocks and problems with sex, like this affects women too when circumcised men are trying to jam their dry cocks in there. It's not necessary at all imo and is the singular thing alicia got right kek

No. 1602484

>>1602441
Because long ago some religious idiot named Kellogg decided that masturbating in the privacy of your home was a great sin and decided that eating bland cereals for breakfast and cutting off healthy the healthy body parts of babies would prevent that. So now we have frustrated (understandable tbh) retarded coomers who use their dicks as jackhammers during sex because they have way less sensations, all because of retarded religions, so called "doctors" and parents who are too stupid to teach their sons how to take showers.

No. 1602587

>>1602358
hands aren’t organs. foreskins are healthy parts of organs. the American education system has failed us all. please don’t reproduce ♥

No. 1602769

>>1602456
Imagine caring if a moid's dick is less sensitive kek I'm glad circumcism cucks them, it literally doesn't matter though as they still easily orgasm every time by virtue of being mods. They deserve to have something limiting it

No. 1602774

Reminder that foreskins are sold for profit to cosmetics labs and god knows what else. Reminder that doctors make money from insurance for performing circumcisions.
https://anthonylosquadro.medium.com/circumcision-in-america-are-baby-boys-foreskins-for-sale-e0b79fadc8cb

No. 1602776

>>1602769
>They deserve to have something limiting it
Ok kinda based tbh

No. 1602905

>>1602484
What? Some men who are circumcised still can’t fuck or shower, stop blaming foreskin or parents and infantilizing men.

No. 1603147

>>1602905
You're not really contradicting me. My main point was that it happened to begin with because some crazy """doctors""" thought masturbation was unhealthy and sinful. The Kellogg guy I mentioned also said that burning little girls' clitoris with acid was an amazing idea and that in both cases, anesthesia shouldn't be used to traumatize children as much as possible. Some guys are disgusting, some guys have good hygiene habits, and all of this is unrelated to my point because little babies shouldn't have their healthy organs removed just for the aesthetic, for superstition, or for outdated scientific bullshittery.

>stop blaming foreskin or parents and infantilizing men.

I'm infantilizing literal newborns. Who are infants. And who are usually raised by their parents. Learn how to read.

No. 1603148

>>1602769
>Imagine caring if a moid's dick is less sensitive
Samefagging, and nta but ever since I learned about John Money that shit freaks me out. And apparently having sex with uncircumcised men feel way better because they don't feel the need to use their dicks as jackhammers inside women to feel something, so it has an indirect consequence on women.

No. 1603156

>>1603148
It does feel better, cut dicks are dry as hell = extra friction and soreness. You don't want a man who struggles to finish, it's only gonna cause you discomfort or even pain.

No. 1603193

The circumssion argument unintentionally sums up why alicia is a horrible mother, the entire circumssion discussion in this thread isn't remotely about whether or not its healthy for the child or not but what you personally prefer in a male partner, alicia likes guys uncut so her son is uncut, alicia likes guys with long hair and so her son had long hair, she is a vegan so her is of course a vegan, everything about him is crafted to fit her specific needs

No. 1603203

>>1602905
Only someone who has been circumcised after puberty can say whether cut or uncut is better. All other opinions are men who are insecure/bitter about their sex life and are looking for something to pin it out. Do not forget most men have ED now due to pornsickness and jackoff like jackhammers, cut or uncut. I reserve belief for those who have actually experienced both around the same time.

No. 1603206

>>1602774
I’ve been wanting to make a post in the tinfoil thread about this since I watched a documentary about it last week kek but Americans are pushing it onto African countries to, I guess, farm foreskins
Anyway she’s right about circumcision but all of her extraordinary and better-than-everone-else parenting methods are just to flaunt it on social media. If she really cared about her child, she would do what she thought would be the best for him and keep it off social media but she won’t because she needs attention and ass pats.
She’s exactly like every other “crunchy” mom, only famous and rich, just look at >>>/snow/1601736 this woman literally sacrifices her children’s health and future just to “stay true” to her crunchy holistic natural vegan not like the other moms LARP

No. 1603228

>>1603206
>them demons are farming our foreskins!
average anti-circumcision retard.

No. 1603235

>>1603228
Yeah. It's hard to make people anti-circumcision with most of the people who are anti-circ being pretty bad rep, like men who focus on the coom-feel-good factor, people who prioritise the aesthetic aspect, and the harvesting-baby-foreskins to sell conspiracy stuff. If you're anti-circ, just say it's fucked up to mutilate a kid, even for religion, but don't compare it to fgm. Just say why is it necessary, and that a child can't consent to an aesthetic removal that should only be done later if the boy/man refuses to keep his foreskin clean and it gets bacteria infections a lot. That way it is the decision of the circumcised.

No. 1603242

>>1603228
Did you even look at the article or do any research at all? Foreskin is literally used in beauty treatments and you're a retard if you think the medical industry isn't going to capitalize on that.

No. 1603245

>>1602468
this. i've had sex with two men and one was cut and one was uncut and when i got with the uncut guy i was so pleasantly surprised because cut dicks are so dry and not nice to touch with your hands. even the guy himself told me he wishes he wasn't cut just because of the dryness factor. sex was also better with the uncut dick but that could just be size factor in general. i think it's really weird to mutilate something on the body that naturally grows like that, just like i don't believe women should have to remove body hair.

No. 1603264

>>1603228
and the average circumciser wants to inflict pain onto a newborn

No. 1603273

>>1603228
Kek I love you nonnie.

No. 1603276

>>1597182
Yes, I’m a pretty hands-on parent myself but the first thing I noticed was how she’s grabbing or clutching at him in nearly every picture. It’s obvious she sees him as a possession of hers and not as a separate human being who should be gaining independence as he grows older.

No. 1603278

>>1597193
She can easily get a boyfriend, but she probably scares normal men away quickly when they realize she’s an antivax nutjob in an emotionally incestuous relationship with her kid.

No. 1603327

>>1602349
Yeah what the fuck is this.

No. 1603342

>>1603291
Weird we're talking peens in a site filled with radfem. Men run shit. If they wanted their son's dick gloves kept then they can start enacting laws immediately.

>>1603278
It's not about loneliness. I'm positive it's about control and grooming. Maybe not in a full out sex way, but in a romantic and emotional incest way. Plus there's a level of narcissism to incest.

No. 1603348

>>1603342
>Plus there's a level of narcissism to incest.
what do you mean ?

No. 1603379

>>1603348
Nta but I think it’s about the control you have over your child and how you only see them as yours. There’s a fine line between seeing your child as an extension of you (projecting yourself onto your child) and seeing them as an object you own (knowing they are a different person but still wanting to control everything they do in their social and romantic life, like those freak boymoms who get jealous when their sons get girlfriends, not necessarily sexual, just as before mentioned emotionally incestious, like in the sense of “I can’t be a part of his romantic or sexual life so no woman should be”

No. 1603638

>>1603379
I mean he's entering puberty and likely gonna want a girlfriend sometime soon, wonder how'd she react to that

No. 1603827

>>1603193
>the entire circumssion discussion in this thread isn't remotely about whether or not its healthy for the child or not but what you personally prefer in a male partner
I mentioned the former point far more than the latter point.

No. 1603960

jeez her son's face in the threadpic already looks like one of those sons of narcmoms who grow up to be narcboyfriends who massively fuck with your head if you date them, and then you're like ???dafuq?? for a year after he breaks up with you because of how little sense he makes
she's crazy and she's ruining a human being with her creep shit

No. 1609034

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maybe I'm looking too into this, but when her son was 8, both of them recreated a somewhat famous photo of Paul McCartney and his wife Linda, with Bear as the husband and Alicia as the wife, which might be how she' see's their relationship, vegan husband and wife instead of mother and son

No. 1609039

>>1594220
>Even if I pecked my own offspring on the lips I’d still consider that pedophilia because expressing affection is for your “partner” only
Not surprised you’re one of those people who uses the word partner kek…fucking Frank Fitz ass scrotish women

No. 1609042

>>1609034
Did they know they were recreating the photo or did like peta stage them like that? I’ve never seen it before not gonna lie

No. 1609047

>>1609042
I think it was her own idea and she got PETA to do it

No. 1609389

So is Alicia a pedophile now? I don’t think it’s bad to take showers with your mom up until a certain age. Maybe age 7 is the cut off. Literally everything else about her parenting is horrifying though. I wonder why so many celebrities and well-off people in Hollywood end up being weird as fuck toward children.

No. 1609405

>>1597193
Some single mothers use their sons as husband substitutes. The son is like a mini me version of the husband, but unlike the husband he’s dependent on her, he’s too young to leave her, she has more control over him and he had to love her unconditionally as she’s his mom. So sometimes they exploit that and start mixing maternal feelings with sexual feelings (that they once held towards the husband who is now gone)

No. 1609422

>>1609405
Would you say this >>1609034 is an example of her using her son as a substitute husband

No. 1609436

>>1609389
Do you really need us to tell you why they're weird with kids?

No. 1609531

>>1609440
You are breaking two rules. Go read them scrote

No. 1610400

God her and her kid are both so fucking ugly…

No. 1610420

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>>1609440
Here, try this

No. 1610426

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Don’t engage.
>report all moid posts
>ignore all moid created threads
>hide all moid created threads

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nonny NONNY NONNY ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ nonny poc victim terf nonny

Don’t engage with the rapist no matter what.
You’re rewarding him with attention.

No. 1610430

>>1609389
>I wonder why so many celebrities and well-off people in Hollywood end up being weird as fuck toward children.
see >>1595542 she was essentially sexualized her entire adolescence until she turned 19 and was considered too fat and old, with a childhood like that she would never really end up normal or have a healthy understanding of boundaries

No. 1610433

File: 1659978781309.jpeg (1.14 MB, 1170x2019, 98481A66-57AE-4CAF-9316-DFED38…)

She really does not look good at all. Veganism
can be so unhealthy and ages people like milk ffr…The greasy hair, the martin bryant ass fashion sense

No. 1610547

latest video on her youtuber channel
>at 2:50 beat is just casually shirtless around his mom and for the rest of the video
>at 5:15 she feeds him a vegan taco straight out of her hand(smiling weirdly as he does it) and later also with great joy, eats his half eaten taco

No. 1610561

>>1610547
I know it's pretty heavily tinfoily thread but the way you see the world is seriously messed up anon.
>parents smiling and sharing food with children are pedophiles

No. 1610725

>>1610547
Really, anon? I know some of the things she does all together could be questionable, but that video was totally innocent. Bear and his friend were most likely outside swimming, and that's why they were shirtless in swim trunks. The taco she made him was going to fall apart, so she helped hold it. Not that deep.

No. 1610850

>>1610547
I sometimes wonder how many nonnas interacted with kids or have even seen them if they think this particular video is indistinguishable from all the other weird shit she does. Not everything she does with him is milky or abusive.

No. 1610917

>>1610547
Hyperfixating on child abuse to this degree is not healthy for you

No. 1611514

Sage for contributing nothing, but I recall learning in my child development course that some women in vietnam do the same diaper-less approach to potty training, where they pay attention to the child's behavior and cues before taking them to toilet or outside, etc. This is about the only thing I guess I could consider understandable for this insane woman to be doing.

No. 1611799

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Posted this weird tiktok about her being in the movie Clueless, and she re-enacted one of the beginning scenes where some skater tries to flirt with her but with her son…I swear I give this woman the benefit of the doubt for 2 seconds and then I take it right back

No. 1611816

>>1611799
she looks so fucking hangered

No. 1611841

>>1611799
the son looks like an autistic girl

No. 1611844

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>>1611841
he's a weirdly tall 11 year old boy, he looks healthy as one can being raised on a vegan diet since childhood, also just find out she did a whole semi-naked photoshoot with her son and ex-husband when they were still married

No. 1611876

>>1611844
how is that semi naked? some of you are weirdos for reading too much into things or seeing stuff that isn't even there like in the cooking video. i know there are some questionable things but the family photo is normal, and the cooking video is normal too

No. 1611907

>>1611844
Kid looks off here. His limbs look skinny and his face looks like it has no puppy fat

No. 1611916

>>1611844
>that weird fucking expression as she raises her head to her baby son

This woman

No. 1611924

File: 1660126383583.png (558.22 KB, 663x665, alicia.png)

>>1611844
>>1611876
I agree, she wasn't semi naked. She was wearing loose shorts on that photoshoot

No. 1611930

>>1611924
>>1611916
nta but a mom wearing "loose shorts" with her infant baby isn't akin to paedophilia

No. 1612268

>>1611907
It's the militant veganism nonna

No. 1612272

>>1610547
Lmao Alicia seems like a weirdo but the tinfoiling here is wild. A kid is "just casually shirtless around his mom"? You'll be shocked to learn parents even see their kids gasp fully nude when they bathe or change them. Escandalo!

No. 1612274

>>1611924
>>1611844
>>1610547
There is nothing remotely milky about any of this. Anons itt are reaching so hard that I'm almost coming back around to thinking her parenting is normal kek

No. 1612288

>>1596287
>Thank you! Anons are pulling individual actions out of context and saying they're "normal in other cultures." No shit, but it's everything TOGETHER that makes it creepy.
This is par for course with attachment parenting proponents. Where their techniques aren't totally made-up bullshit, they pick and choose parenting techniques that are done out of necessity or take culture norms completely out of context while also conveniently ignoring that not only is the mother-as-sole-caregiver/nuclear family idea incredibly new, children in nearly every culture throughout human history become independent at a much, much earlier age than contemporary western and especially US children. Attachment parenting is ultimately an appeal-to-nature excuse to use your kid as a source of validation and emotional tampon
>>1596302
First thing I thought of when I saw this thread. Hope Kaelin's doing okay
>>1611876
Agree that the photoshoot isn't a big deal, but if you add everything up it's abundantly clear that she's engaging in emotional incest, which is a well-known phenomenon.

No. 1612633

>>1609436
Nta but it's not our faults anons have some fucked up association with the care your family is meant to provide you. Making something as innocent as showering with your children (which could be for a whole host of reasons I might add) just makes me think you personally had negative experiences. Yes Alica is an insane borderline pedophile publically, but I doesn't make your repressed and confused concepts on parenting any less weird. If you can't seperate the pure and innocent love a parent has for their children with sexual love you need to see a therapist.

No. 1612921

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>>1611799
she also recreated another scene with clueless where she calls her son "daddy"

No. 1612969

>>1612633
What? I don't think you understand the whole thread of the conversation. I was implying that Hollywood is crawling with predators and creeps who fuck their victims up and who in turn become predators and creeps themselves and perpetuate that vicious cycle. I don't see what you're "repressed and confused concepts on parenting" comment or your spiel has to do with anything I said? That's a borderline schizo response to be honest.

No. 1613074

Some weirdos are in serious denial about her being a pedo in here. Hope you retarded boymoms aren't inappropriately roleplaying with your kids.

No. 1613151

>>1611514
This is what they do in China too.

No. 1613234

>>1613151
K well the bitch isn't Chinese.

No. 1613321

>>1613151
It's what my wackadoo woo woo cousin does, along with keeping the placenta attached to her babbies until it rots off. It's seriously foul. At least she started diapering them for safety after being shat on one too many times.

No. 1614108

>>1613234
>>1613321
The Chinese method seems better as they are toilet trained from a younger age so everyone should be using it to minimize diaper waste. The weird flirty thing she said is not part of the method and is creepy.

No. 1765340

>the chinese method works
except chinese kids of all ages randomly shitting on the street is one google search away…

No. 1765355

>>1614108
Shitting in the street isn't civilized. Use a cloth diaper if you care so much about waste.



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