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No. 192724
Singer of former band
Dresden Dolls, now solo and edgier than ever before.
Links:
http://amandapalmer.nethttp://blog.amandapalmer.nethttps://twitter.com/amandapalmerhttps://www.patreon.com/amandapalmer• Edgy as fuck, her songs cover subjects like back-alley abortions, date rape, sex changes, siamese twins, and generally being
unique and different and special in that really quirky morbid way.
• Staged her suicide to ~*teach her bf a lesson*~ about how drugs are bad, recorded his reaction, used it in a song (he an hero'd later)
• Wrote an "open letter" to The Cure about how their songs relate to her first blowjobs.
• Got flashmob married to fantasy writer Neil Gaiman
• "muh feminism" because she flashes her armpit bush at movie galas and writes buzzwords on her naked body to post selfies of on Twitter as self promotion, yet still makes fun of rape victims etc.
• Founded musical act
Evelyn Evelyn in which she pretends to be a Siamese Twin for more edge points:
>Rather than being limited by their unique physical condition, the Evelyn sisters prove that two heads are indeed better than one. Audiences will marvel at the twins as they dexterously perform their original compositions on piano, guitar, ukulele, accordion and even drums.>Unsatisfied with the grind of circus life, at the age of nineteen the twins decided to explore a solo career. It was then that they were discovered by Amanda Palmer and Jason Webley, who heard the twins’ music on MySpace. Webley and Palmer encouraged the twins and offered to help them record a proper album.>The album will be accompanied by a full US and European tour and – later this year – a graphic novel about the twins’ inspiring life, illustrated by Cynthia von Buhler and published by Dark Horse Press.• Attempts to pay her musicians in
exposure sleepovers and beer
http://amandapalmer.net/blog/20120821/… and wrote an actual book about this because it's the future of music, apparently. But then again, she has a Patreon now.
https://www.amazon.com/Art-Asking-Learned-Worrying-People/dp/1455581097/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478134880&sr=8-1&keywords=the+art+of+asking• Wrote a poem sympathizing with the Boston Bomber, but "doesn't do poetry"
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/jun/22/amanda-palmer-visionary-egotist-interviewhttp://blog.amandapalmer.net/20130423/• Donating to KKK is totes ironic lol
https://twitter.com/amandapalmer/status/11006388271Discuss.
No. 192761
>>192760Me too anon, they're kind of creepy. I also never got the hype about her.
She seems like she likes attention. Maybe she'll fade away if we keep ignoring her.
No. 192762
>>192758Her "fame" is mostly online and she uses social networks and Patreon to finance her work, so I'd say she's more on the level of an annoying e-celebrity.
She had a Kickstarter way back that a new funding record and despite getting over 10x the amount she asked for to produce an "art book" with soundtrack, she just claimed it was needed for her project because apparently a single book cost 300 dollars to make, a vinyl record 100 dollars and so on. So she took over 1 million dollars in Kickstarter money to make a photobook showing herself as a corpse in over 9000s ways feat. her husbands poetry.
No. 192771
Also, her Patreon subscriptions aren't paid monthly - you pay any time she posts something. It could be a song or a video you pay for, but you could also be charged for a blog post.
>“I really like doing things spontaneously and fast. I have this subscription system right now called Patreon, which is like a Kickstarter but with a longer commitment. I have 7,000 fans, friends, supporters giving an average of a couple of dollars. Every time I decide to do something: Make a piece of content, make a video, do a webcast, write and produce a song really quickly, make an EP of David Bowie tribute covers, I basically just press a button on the Internet and their cash flows in and I spend it on the production any project I want.”http://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2016/02/81782-amanda-palmer-my-kickstarter-was-terribly-budgeted/ No. 192844
>>192724> Edgy as fuck, her songs cover subjects like back-alley abortions, date rape, sex changes, siamese twins,>songs covering real life events are edgyHow far in the basement are you? A lot of songs cover real life issues, it doesnt make them edgy. You sound like some
triggered neckbeard.
No. 192850
>>192844The topics may not be edgy in themselves, but her way of handling them definitely is.
You sound like a clown too deep into your own teenage angst to realize what she's doing. You can sing about real life tragedy without turning it into a self promotion fuckfest. There's plenty of music and art about these events that aren't exploitative and gaudy.
No. 192883
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She hasn't really done much seeing as she's a mother now. Do like her music, but besides that don't know anything besides her husband is the man who wrote Coraline.
No. 192903
>>192883>>192884His graphic novels are iconic. I suggest perusing this:
http://www.neilgaiman.com/works/AP gives me narcissistic teas.
No. 192912
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>>192907I don't see how she's going to sustain a thread on her own, but in the meantime here's some of the kickstarter blowout.
No. 194337
>>194088OP here, I used to like some of her music too. It's her terrible personality that ruins her.
>Mentioning Morrissey and AP in the same sentenceI'm weeping, but you're not wrong.
>>194332video related. She thinks it's a fucking joke.
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"It's going to be so exciting! I'm escaping to Australia lulz!"
No. 225810
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>>225801i dont know anything about the dresden dolls but i know how shitty this dumb bitch is. i always hear how she fucks shit up so she deserves a thread shes pretty much a nonstop clusterfuck
those clown brows tho
No. 225878
>>225801She had done/said some questionable things (the faked suicide recording used in a song for instance), but in this case, what she said has been completely blown out of context both in the interview and by most of the people reacting to it. She's not even moving to Australia, she's just staying there for the next few weeks while she tours and mentioned how she got a special entertainment visa thing which makes travelling to Australia easier for her. That's it. No remarks about how she's moving there because of Trump or some other bullshit that I've seen people claim. But people are too blinded by their hate boners for her that they can't be bothered to look for clarification via her Twitter/FB posts. But then again, that's not really surprising: no one's actually going to go out of their way to disprove their own biases about someone when the hate boner is that strong. And like
>>225862 said, Amanda is not the first person to make this joke, but she does seem to be getting the most flak for it while eyelids are not even quivered at those who have said the same exact thing.
No. 225894
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>>225862yeah totally thats why brazil is known for their jammin music and fucking syria they have so great tunes i tell you what.
christ you sound as disconnected from reality as she does.
ugh stupid ass attitudes like this are what got into the shitty situation we're in the first place. fucking contemporary liberals were too busy whining on social media instead of actually going out and doing anything.
No. 226368
>>225878People who have said or done shitty things before are not likely to be given the benefit of doubt.
Someone else saying the same shit before her doesn't make it okay for her to say it. She doesn't get a pass for being unoriginal. You sound new.
No. 226376
>>225894https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_in_BrazilYou coulda used the time you spent googling for that pic learning how wrong you are btw
https://www.facebook.com/mazhott/ Here's some Syrian punk just to ice the 'you're ignorant' cake
Thanks for playing
No. 226381
>>225894lmfao try harder
people in shitty political situations write songs about them in protest. that has nothing to do with stupid ass attitudes or contemporary liberals, that's a normal social response. art reflects society.
No. 226392
>>226220>>226376>>226381kek i already had that picture saved bruh
oh yeah great all that shitty underground hipster music is gonna resolve the political tension in those nations.
aw geez guys thanks for schooling me in useless garbage. you sure got me that will show those oppressive political regimes that'll inevitably wipe out their "protest" art.
not once did i say that protest music didnt exist in those countries. i said good music wasnt being produced solely as a result of their situation because apparently the best music comes from political tensions. music is a highly subjective art form unless youre familiar with composition and historical background so for all you know that stuff you linked is mediocre pretentious trash.
fuck i get it you're all amanda palmer stans of course my mistake i shouldnt have shit talked your hipster goddess.
No. 226393
>>226392okay i see how rustled you are but i'm gonna bite
>oh yeah great all that shitty underground hipster music is gonna resolve the political tension in those nations.firstly, punk predates hipster so far that you're showing your ignorance again. secondly, no one says the music is going to resolve the problem - it's catharsis for people in suffering.
>not once did i say that protest music didnt exist in those countriesyou insinuated that no valuable music exists in those countries, so sort of
>fuck i get it you're all amanda palmer stans of course my mistake i shouldnt have shit talked your hipster goddess.literally do not care about amanda palmer nor have i ever heard her music (neil writes some good books though), just a local punk swinging in to educate u
No. 226395
>>226392sage for samefag to add
>i said good music wasnt being produced solely as a result of their situation because apparently the best music comes from political tensions. literally never said the best music in general, just the best music in the punk genre. the genre made for music about shitty sociopolitical situations.
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>>226392>say something stupid>get blown the fuck out>try to defend yourself by backpedaling and calling everyone else an Amanda Palmer stanJust walk away, anon. It's okay, we're all anonymous here.
No. 226401
>>226392Yikes. You're backpedaling to the extreme here.
Anyway, I don't have much to say about Amanda Palmer. A girl I knew in high school was obsessed with her (and was also obsessed with Emily Autumn). That girl was also a compulsive liar who faked illnesses for attention, so now I understand.
No. 226408
>>226393ugh hipster is an old term it wasnt invented in 2010 believe it or not, bud.
punk music isnt even an old genre to begin with there are other genres that have been utilized to express disdain for the current political problems happening within a troubled nation.
what i asserted in my original post is that it's pretty fucked up to overlook the massive consequences of an extremely faulty political movement for the sake of art supposedly being at its peak. thats it. do you hear people commentating "oh boy all those people are getting bombarded and murdered at least the music is good". palmer's supposed optimistic observation was stupid and disconnected from reality.
whats really annoying is that all of you or (one of you) are flocking to pick on a strawman that a response to my post made.
i never disputed the existence of a music scene i simply said those nations arent known for their punk music scenes. yes im sure theres a punk scene in every goddamn country however no one but other punk enthusiasts would bother to bring that up.
i dont see why im explaining myself to you because reading and comprehension dont seem to be your strong suit but here i am wasting my time. what better place to that on honestly?
cant we agree that amanda palmer is shit and call it a day?
No. 226409
>>226392"music is a highly subjective art form unless youre familiar with composition and historical background so for all you know that stuff you linked is mediocre pretentious trash. "
im the anon who posted the ratos de porao album and if you think i just randomly picked some brazilian punk off google, fucking kek. soy de sudamerica, pendejo.
No. 226410
>>226408>ugh hipster is an old term it wasnt invented in 2010 believe it or not, bud.Lmao punk music in its best known iteration comes from the 60's. Literally predates the term by 50 years. You really don't have any clue what punk music is, do you?
Really, just stop. You embarrassed yourself with your first post and now you're just making it worse on yourself. All you're doing is showing the true depths of your lack of culture.
No. 226412
>>226408"those nations arent known for their punk music scenes."
Just because you don't know of them doesn't mean they aren't known. Typical close-minded American world-view. If it doesn't exist to you, it doesn't exist at all.
No. 968888
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Will probably get banned for necromancy, but Amanda and Neil are getting a divorce. It's likely going to be messy and full of social media over-sharing, so I'm raising this thread from the dead
No. 968942
>>968888>>968889Ohhhhh yeah, this is going to be amazing.
>>968917Could be but people in
toxic relationships fight over dumb shit all the time. Palmer's probably bathing in how ~quirky~ it is but it could have actually happened
No. 968944
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Hell yes, living for this saga!
>>968917He tweeted about being jetlagged and then this.
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>>968917Gotta be serious if he left his child to go back to the UK in the middle of a pandemic, also pic related. Not surprised though since he already left one family behind
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>>968949To add, she posted this on Patreon. It's a public post, I didn't pay to see her bullshit, but it's still making her a ton of money because she charges
per post, not per month. She has 15k+ patrons and posts every couple of days.
>Things came to lightsounds like he cheated in some way that wasn't cool with their open marriage policy.
No. 969052
>>968977Maybe she's the one who cheated and that's why he left? Guess I've seen a lot cheaters do big dramatic vague posts like hers when caught and the person getting cheated on acting more like Neil is. It seems like he might be the one initiating the separation but that could also be AP trying to play the
victim after telling him to leave.
Good catch, anon. I'll definitely be watching this thread.
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Is this true? A lot of people are saying the same thing on twitter but reading
>>968977 makes it seem like they broke up before the patreon post. Unless theres another post on patreon?
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>>969135I've been trying to find out where that rumor came from, but I haven't seen anything posted by either of them that would suggest it. AFAIK the timeline went as such:
>Marriage troubles >>968889>NG leaves NZ, vaguely talks about being jetlagged (on a stream?)>lots of questions about where he is/why they're not together>NG claims he left for the UK because he was "fearing that commercial flights might go away entirely" but that it was "safe and sensible" for AP and child to stay in NZ>AP publishes >>968977>NG responds with >>968944Seems to me that they were having issues but weren't publicly talking about it, AP decided to spill, NG felt like he had to respond. It looks like "It seems like AP has told people that we are going through rocky times right now" was misconstrued as "it seems like AP has announced a divorce without letting me know about it first" for some reason.
No. 969253
>>968888i hope this isn't nitpicky, but i'm really weirded out by the wording of the sentence "my heart has been broken". Not "I'm heartbroken", not "my heart is breaking" – i
HAVE BEEN heartbroken
it almost gives the sense she's going on the offensive to avoid some other truth from coming out? i'm kinda with the anons speculating she's the one who cheated
No. 969308
>>969289Yeah, I was a huge fan of AP for years and went to a ton of her shows both Dresden Dolls and the solo stuff. Independently of their relationship I enjoyed NG's writing, but every time I saw him at her shows or their joint shows, something about him just gave me the creeps. I can't put my finger on it but he just never gave much of a vibe of being an attentive partner (always felt like she was the giver of attention, and he never quite rose to the occasion in returning it). It's odd because I've never really put it into words before but there's just something off about the guy - and that's without going into the whole man in his 50s with grown children marries younger woman and has another child who he sporadically spends time with.
I think they're both very talented artists in their own rights, but insufferably pretentious and narcissistic to boot. AP's stories about Ash also sound like he's a bit of a weird one, no doubt because of the unstable upbringing and constantly being uprooted around the world for her career, poor thing.
No doubt AP will write some long, secret-spilling patreon post about it soon. She's never been one to keep her business to herself.
No. 969681
>>969670Neil is extremely holier-than-though and pseudo-woke on social media, panders to SJWs, then passive-aggressively refutes them, and re: the "who cheated" discussion, I've read rumors for
years that he's a giant fuckboy who talks about how he has "a girl in every city". Everything about him screams faux male feminist and he's so fucking self-congratulatory.
No. 969702
>>969289it's her history that makes her more suspicious anon
the fact is there's virtually nothing we actually know about the situation. it's also pretty risky to be travelling internationally at this time. we just don't know but it's a fair guess if someone doubts AP with how bats she's been acting during this
>>969677ily anon lmfao
No. 969793
>>969308you put my feelings into words, must be women's intuition. There's something off about Gaiman that's hard to explain without coming off as "I just don't vibe with this guy" lol.
>>969681that's interesting. He's such a weird guy though, it's hard to imagine him as a fuckboy. But he's definitely some sort of a creep.
>>969677lol I liked them together but that's so on point, if only this thread was relevant you'd deserve this best post star-award
No. 969923
Amanda posted a new giant wall of text that's too long to even screencap, but here's the Neil-related part amid all the rambling:
>my post about neil's departure and his bristling tweet, and the story that people then made out of it, is a perfect example of how our grieving techniques are pretty much parallel to you and your ex's.
>i do not sound the emotional distress signal to hurt anybody, but to call in my people. this has been a source of ?misunderstanding between me and many people (often men) for eons. neil's strategies for how to deal with the public have always been very different, this is one of those cases where an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. in therapy, neil and i often used to talk about our struggle for "control of the narrative", the deep and dark struggle over who gets to tell the story. you can tell a story by saying nothing, you can tell a story by giving every last detail, they're both still….choices.
>whether or not to tell people "what is happening" in your life - especially when there is loss, pain and betrayal - is indeed a personal choice. i've always defended my wanted the benefits that come with living as an open book. i am very, very aware of the costs, i've been paying them for twenty years. the costs have still not outweighed the benefits.
>my choice has almost always been to work through the grief - of friends' lives, of pregnancies, of relationships shattering - in public so that my village can relate, nod, empathize, hold me, and carry my own story in their hearts so they won't feel as lonely when their turn comes around…and it always comes around. i know because i enjoy listening to other peoples' stories as much as a like sharing my own. wielding a megaphone doesn't interest me. i'd rather have a two-way communication device. cans and string. with lots of cans. and lots of strings.https://www.patreon.com/posts/snakes-and-and-36764884 No. 970068
>>969923here are some gems from her diatribe
>first if all>one of my lower energetic ebbs>grateful that … patreon exists so that i can gather and feel my little crowd-village around me>i have never navigated something this strange before, and i've navigated a lot>your inner camera>i know the verse and chorus of this internet song so well i have it memorized>as i sat down to per>all-to-familiar>ash, zen creature that he is>when i was a tiny person>we're all a person>new treed and constellations>i'm a person getting yelled at on the internet>i'm a person on the phone with a manager>when i open my mouth to share my feelings and call my community towards me>my smoke signals - the honest blog, the cry in the night>it's also it's why>it's kind of hard to imagine the scope of pain that losing a child would open up. when i lost my older step-brother,>i love neil, deeply, >how dare she ask for help has been the refrain on the lips of polite society when they glare in my general direction>i do not need the world to approve of me right now, but i do need my village to comfort me>the dawn of the dresden dolls>while my style may be sloppy and off the cuff>i may irritate many people out there>wrap around and hold my heart tighter than being alone would have>they will all protect me from the basic outside slings and arrows>send good wishes to me, to ash, to neil over in scotland>send extra loving compassion to any fuckwit on the internet who is trying to mess with our family and our peace of mind>a gentle pillow-web of friends around me to lie down with>also: i need more babysitter advice if anyone is in … new zealand>we are probably going to have to buy a car soon if anyone has leadsjesus christ this woman is first-if-all braindead and also a cultist
No. 970075
>>970068I mean, I don't really know her music and I do love Gaiman's writing (he sounds like he had a weird ass upbringing but also a weirdo creep in gen…def reminds me of Alan Moore, the comic book dude), but doesn't this sorta sound like…a mania episode?
Like her whole music journalist fiasco seems like someone with allusions of grandeur. Not armchairing, but it's just odd and I'm getting a vibe about this
No. 970084
>>970076Ok cool, thx for clarifying.
If she was in therapy with him, did she just gloss over her grandiose shit? also kek at her just throwing that out there, the rule of therapy is keeping things private unless the patients, in this case, both consent to it.
Their poor kid. At least Gaiman's other kids were adults before he abandoned them
No. 970117
>>970086this is a total tinfoil, but what this anon is describing
>>969194 could be something he actually sought out but it got to be too much or something. i've known dudes like this irl where they serially date really outwardly unstable self obsessed women and everyone compliments on how down to earth and selfless they seem in comparison. i think some dudes seek out this kind of dynamic so they look rational and stoic in contrast, to hide that they have their own neurosis and vanity. similar to how a munchy mom wants to be seen as ~selfless,heroic, patient~ when they're anything but.
No. 970134
>>969052>>969089Tori Amos super fan and yeah, Tori adored him as a friend and respected him. Gossip on Tori Amos from the 2 anons that know who she is, is that she has quite a volatile marriage to her husband, but they're still private (unless in the studio where I get my gossip) and are incredibly loving stable, almost boring parents.
Tori really loves Neil as a friend and they recently did an interview together? Maybe it was a year or two old. But yeah, they're more familial. Tori likes stable and Neil went for manic panic. Tori is bizarre in a way, but she's a quiet, compassionate person. I met her in person.
I'm really fascinated by this Neil drama because I'm a huge fan. All men his age want a woman to reinvigorate them. It's sad but expected that he chose her.
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Speaking of holier-than-thou, "I forgive it" speaks so much to how she perceives herself, lmao.
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I was reading her Patreon or one of her blogs, I can't remember, and she said that Neil was paying the majority of their household bills. Where does all that Patreon money go?
While trying to find the post again, I found this instead. Rather than having an open marriage, it sounds more like swinging.
https://www.boston.com/uncategorized/noprimarytagmatch/2013/02/17/amanda-palmer-previews-ted-talk-for-friends# No. 970320
>>192724>>970068Lmao thank you anon, perfectly captured cuts. She is nauseating in the extreme, and a total moron to boot.
Gaiman is simply a bore.
No. 970347
>today i got a mid-afternoon flurry of texts from friends telling me not to look at the internet.
>amanda palmer is a secret scientologist. no, she’s an open racist. no, she’s a transphobe. no, she’s a baby-killer. no, she hates jews. no, she hates men. no, she hates women. no, she’s a murderer. no, she’s a thief. no, she’s always just been an attention-whore. no, she’s an artist. no, she’s a charlatan.
is she under some sort of attack on twitter or what? because of the breakup? idgi
>i love neil, deeply, as i'm sure you loved and maybe still love your ex. I've been there
so she's officially calling him an ex, okay. No "rocky times" anymore dear Gaiman lol.
No. 970391
>>970347Yeah people are calling her out on twitter because, well, for various reasons but mainly because she’s a lolcow.
>>970342 Same, kind of. I don’t care about either of them, but I do have a perverted need to hate everything that comes out of the mouth of this idiot.
No. 970462
>>192724>>970342 Here's a whingy SJW medium article about all her
problematic behaviour
https://medium.com/@gracelapointe/on-amanda-palmers-white-feminism-a-k-a-bigotry-19ce77fa635fI don't know if it includes the fake suicide but it should be relatively easy to find via google.
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kek
No. 971507
>>971500Ye olde hacking excuse, top kek. Who would hack a rich and famous author just to put a petty book on his reading list?
Please. People gotta think harder before they claim hacking.
>>971494I've seen several people mention this, someone made an ONTD post too claiming to have seen it. My guess is that it's real
No. 971593
>>971571good for him for finding resources to get rid of that fucking witch i dont think we should shame a man in an
abusive relationship men already are scrutinized by society when they are
victims and when they are raped the judges dont take them seriously
No. 971632
>>971593Judges take female rape
victims seriously? lmao get out of here.
Was he also abused by the first wife and family he up and left? Also, if Amanda is so dangerous why did he leave his child with her? They're both giant fuckups and the only person to feel sorry for here is their child.
No. 972050
There's a cohesive ONTD post about their relationship timeline now, copypasting the most relevant parts:
https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/117915650.html#cutid1
>1985: Gaiman, 25, marries his first wife. Amanda Palmer, 9, is 9.
>Mid 1990s?: Palmer is dating a young man who is addicted to heroin. She fakes her own suicide and gets him to "discover" her body. She claims that this is performance art and that it was a way to get him to understand the pain that he was causing her due to his addiction.(vid related)
(Note from farmer: That bf killed himself a few months later)
>2008: Gaiman and McGrath divorce, Neil and Amanda meet and collaborate on Amanda's photo book "Who killed Amanda Palmer", they begin dating
>Palmer says, "We were not attracted to one another. Repulsed is too strong a word, but there was no lightning strike, no 'God, I’ve got to f* this person!'… Yet we were fascinated by one another, and fascination is much stronger than physical attraction, which we both do have now, incidentally."Because of their hectic schedules, many of their dates involve two- to three-day meetups, which apparently involved a lot of adult activity, which Palmer blogged about.
>January 1, 2010: Palmer announces their engagement.Gaiman says he chose to marry Palmer “because I couldn’t ever imagine being bored”.
"He fell in love with me first, and then he planted himself firmly in a chair… telling me that he was perfectly happy to wait years and years and years to date me.
>November 10, 2010: Palmer hosts a surprise flash mob wedding in New Orleans for Gaiman's 50th birthday. Palmer painted her face entirely white and pretended to be a statue during the ceremony.
>"The cohabitating has not been easy…. I've never had to actually share my space. Neil has gotten used to a totally different kind of family style where he lives in a household with kids running around. Colliding our two lifestyles is hilarious and so fantastic because we just take such totally different approaches.I think a lot of it has to do with psychic artistry and workspace. We're two artists who work at home…. You've got Amanda and Neil running offices, Amanda and Neil needing to make art, and Amanda and Neil needing to be clothed, fed, and sheltered. Figuring out how to place and puzzle piece together all those myriad ingredients isn't easy."
>According to both of them, some of their communication would be via text or publicly online on their Twitters, Facebooks or blogs. Also:
>"We've found the best way for us to connect with each other is just to have a lot of sex.
>2011 - present: The couple is involved in various shenanigans, hijinks, and misadventures. These include:Palmer strips off her clothes in the Degas museum so that Gaiman can sketch her in the nude.
Palmer strips off her clothes on the Golden Globes red carpet next to Gaiman.
Gaiman and Palmer perform goth songs together.
2013: Palmer publishes a poem romanticizing Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who killed 3 people by bombing the Boston Marathon. Gawker declares it "The Worst Poem Of All Time." And yes, it is still on her blog.
https://blog.amandapalmer.net/20130421/
>September 2015: Palmer and Gaiman have their son, Ash. At this point, Gaiman is also a grandfather. **Palmer requests to Neil that they stop their polyamory and focus on their family.**
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>>972050had to google the golden globes thing after you mentioned it… yikes
No. 972328
>>972218They definitely have a "weirdo nobodies you invited to your award ceremony on accident" vibe to them, though her blog post at the time is quite entertaining
https://blog.amandapalmer.net/fame-whoring/That farmer note, how awful.
>>972050She really is a terrible person. That is like dressing up as a dying cancer patient to show your dying cancer patient boyfriend how it "feels"
No. 972372
>>972218They got that creepy weird thing going on in this pic where they look more like gross inbred siblings continuing the incestual lineage
Also weird nitpick but goddamn her arms look weirdly long in every picture… disproportionate to her body.
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It's kind of funny how they keep repeating this story as if it's a testament to how deep their love is (was). Noted Feminist Neil Gaiman told a woman he was dating she was "pudgy" and looked "mannish" or like a "lesbian". Really giving the fake woke male feminist vibes here
No. 974363
>>974357So… Basically, they had a fight whilst stuck in lockdown together, Neil had to get away from her (the other side of the fucking world mind you) and she had a massive online tantrum and allowed people to believe they'd broken up.
They're both blaming the 'haters' for attacking Amanda and jumping to conclusions… But she was the one who put it out there? That's all her.
(also I don't believe for a second Neil's bloody Goodreads was hacked, he was absolutely reading about BPD because this dumpster fire sounds like a BPD tantrum from Amanda. And now the fog has lifted and she's all sorry and he's an idiot.)
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>>974357>>974405Imageboard, screenshots, etc
God, they're the epitome of TL;DR.
Relevant part:
>(my fault, I'm afraid, I'd hurt her feelings very badly, and… actually beyond that it's none of anyone else's business)I guess that means she didn't cheat.
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>>974584Dear Everybody.
This has been a hard few weeks for us. We are not getting divorced. It’s not that exciting.
We love each other very deeply. As sometimes happens during the course of a long marriage, we have hurt each other. We have lived our lives individually, and then as a couple, very publicly (and right now, too publicly).
We have been trying to figure out how best to love each other for twelve years. It is fair to say that this relationship has been the hardest, but also the most rewarding, collaboration of our lives.
Living in lockdown is hard. Working on a marriage, as everyone married knows, is also hard. And we are very aware there are thousands, probably millions of people who have been dealing with their own versions of problems like ours over the last few months – and many face situations that are far worse.
We will sort out our marriage in private, which is where things like this are best sorted. We're working together to try and do this better. We care about each other so much, and we have a small boy we love and delight in, and those are reasons enough to work together to fix things.
So that's what's going on. It's not as much fun or as interesting as the newsfeed headlines made it seem.
For anyone who felt the urge to choose sides on this, trust us, there really aren't any sides to be taken: we are on our side, and we're on Ash's side, and we hope you are too.
None of us know what the future is going to look and feel like, right now, and that's scary. We need to be able to have each other’s backs. So please, if you can, have our backs, and we will do our best to have yours.
And to the vast majority of people out there who have been kind and sane and supportive to both of us, and to each other, thank you, we love you and appreciate it, and you, so very much.
Peace, and definitely love,
Neil and Amanda
No. 974591
>>974588Samefag, he does say
>we love each other very deeply earlier in the letter, so it's unusual to then later downgrade it to
care when juxtaposed with the love for his son. Also abandoning people you "love" during a pandemic, ok Neil.
Amanda seems like a nightmare, but so is he.
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NG's trending on twitter right now because BBC news picked up on his 11k mile journey to his "primary residence". This tweet caught my conspiritard eye
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>>975347Tried, unfortunately no luck. Talked to her for a little longer but didn't get any info of note. My bet's on it being something related to him being a sex creeper though.
Sage because no milk
No. 975491
>>975392as they have a right to be!
"But it's my own house" isn't an excuse - government figures have been under fire from going to their own second homes to wait out the pandemic, and that's just a car ride away. This douche hopped across continents to pitch up on a tiny island and then snobbishly insist that his residence there means it's morally right. Dude, you got money, just get an AirBnb in the city you live in or something. I'm half expecting him to turn around and explain why exactly he had to be 11k miles away from Amanda Palmer, start slinging the mud etc just to make himself look more sympathetic. It was still a very selfish choice.
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>>975491He defended himself by saying he pays taxes in the uk lmao
There's already a bunch of articles online even though it's arse o'clock in the morning in the uk, i bet it'll be all over the web in a few hours
https://www.thenational.scot/news/18455487.american-gods-author-neil-gaiman-travels-12-000-miles-skye-lockdown/?ref=twtrec No. 975582
>>975576>>974666What an absolute turd.
>waaaaah I got into a fight with my wife and it's inconvenient to talk to my friends in a different timezone so I need to abandon my child and fly across the world during a pandemic!!!How out-of-touch with reality do you need to be to think that this explanation would go over well? It'd almost be better if he said that he needs to visit his side piece
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>>975576.
>>975582Scottish twitter really picked up on dragging him yesterday when the BBC picked the story up, it’s going to be all over Scottish and greater UK publications today.
No. 982198
>>982166The most recent thing I can find on Gaiman's ex is that she still donated heavily to Scientology in 2012.
It's common knowledge but Palmer's immediate family are/were active members. Some eyebrows raised when Neil and Amanda got together because of their respective family histories but it could have been a bonding point idk.
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I've seen her mentioned in the celebricow thread again lately so let me bump this with her newest dumbassery
No. 1138266
>>1138227I…what?
Also, I thought NZ wasn't letting people in because of covid.
No. 1138288
>>1138266>>1138227She's been in NZ for quite a while.
I think she's trying to say that they were applauding a random American to show support during the inauguration. Sounds kinda fake but she's not actually claiming that they were applauding her personally.
No. 1138866
>>1138227>Aotearoa new zealandit's literally like saying America USA
no one in NZ calls them coffeeshops, they're cafes
Everyone behind the counter would be like one or two people at most.
Public applauding is such an American thing, NZers don't do that shit unless someone is making a speech or doing a concert.
No. 1139605
>>1138227"I'm so famous they clapped at me in NZ" Besides that it sounds like bs she's like what, 40? Why is she behaving like gen z ethot in her 20's? What's her point?
Anyway I couldn't believe they made headlines with that stupid lockdown patreon divorce, that was so funny. Can't decide who's the biggest cow, Amanda with patreon or Neil Gaiman needing to be 11,000 miles away from her kek. Didn't know AP has a thread but i can see why she belongs here
No. 1140753
>>1140636So one guy who she chats to regularly did applause as she walked in since they had discussed events in the US the previous day.
She definitely phrased that in a misleading manner.
No. 1181459
>>1179487aaand here’s two:
Masturbating in class blog -
https://dresdendollsdiary.blogspot.com/2004/11/112904-berlin-ger.html?m=1Bird Stomping Blog -
https://dresdendollsdiary.blogspot.com/2007/08/?m=1Saged since this is old shit and I don’t want to catch a ban for necroing but hopefully you’ll see this anon!
No. 1186249
>>1186220They used to host these when they were first getting together. I think it's a financial decision, their fans eat those up like nothing else.
>>1181459>>1181132Happy it helped!
>I did get to feel the re-creation of an ultimate High School Moment. I was in the ladies room of the trashy euro-barthat housed the reunion, relating to some old friends the story of whacking off in physics(how, you ask? cleverly, and under multiple large, flowing, gothic skirts) while staring directly into the eyes of the ultimate heather-like volleyball girl who I considered my spiritual nemesis (thinking, as I achieved orgasm, something terribly arrogant along the lines of "you will never be free, you will never be free…."). As I finished relating the story in the reunion bathroom, a heather-like friend of the ultimate heather appeared out of a nearby stall and looked at me, flipping heather-yet-now-soccer-mom hair and said: "Yeah right", while rolling her eyes heavenward and storming out of the bathroom. Ah, right back at home. Of course, I took the opportunity to relate this story to anyone who was willing to listen for the rest of the night.
Ah yes, same as ever.
>Several drinks later, I snogged the football-team-captain-freak-basher who used to make my life a living helln after a short discussion and mutual truce. A large crowd gathered around us in a circle and applauded. A very West Side Story Moment.
>Nowadays, when I listen to the music I loved at 12, it brings me back to a very specific feeling. The feeling belongs very specifically to my twelve-year-old self, a direct nostalgic connection to a solid spot.>But by listening to Avril, I have actually harnessed the power of the twilight zone and am able to re-live being 12 from a fresh perspective. How common is that?Extremely common. Downright normie-tier. What an exhausting edgelord.
No. 1186328
>>1186249Dude she keeps saying "Heather" like or whatever, referencing that
literal 80s movie like anyone knows what tf that means. I know it from liking Winona Ryder a lot, but no one else has ever seen it. How can you seriously nonstop reference that and Avril Lavigne like those two things could have been equally culturally relevant to you as a twelve year old.
One happened two fucking decades after the other.
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>>1186363You're not you when you're hungry. Here, have a Snickers
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>>1956884Buckle in
nonnie, this is how the book starts.
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>>1957010Thank you anon, this will be helpful cause my book copy is in Polish, so i couldn't cite directly without it! I'll post something later, i'm wondering wht would you anons find most interesting her cringey relationship with Neil Gaiman, her scamming coworkers or twitter shit? let me throw some of this shit as a sample in the meanwhile, lol.
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apologies for not posting nonnies, going through her book for relevant fragments takes a bit of time + i wanted to write up a little summary post to help provide some context. I'll try to post some shit tomorrow, but for now grab this special snowflake fragment. Explains a lot. Well at least she's aware of being it, lol.
No. 1961156
>>1960427Thank you! What an absolute narcissist. I’m not entirely sure how to explain this but she really is excellent at faking immediate connection. Speaking to her face to face is creepy as shit because she looks deep into your eyes and really does make you feel seen even in rather impersonal settings like after show autograph signings. It’s how I imagine speaking to a charismatic cult leader or self help guru might be; you know there’s no real connection but it feels like you’re the only two people in the room. Sorry for explaining her weird vibes so poorly but I’m not sure how to accurately describe it. I’ve only met a few other people like that and they all made me feel like I was about to get conned or some shit. Even as a young teen (it’s been like 15 years since I last saw her live) it made me feel weird and naked. Her fans seem to like this so I guess not everyone gets the same feeling of faked genuine connection.
>>1960767 I’ve definitely had strangers ask for a tampon before but they were always embarrassed and it’s only happened a few times in my life. Last time it was a homeless woman. Leave it to Amanda to make what should be an embarrassing situation into a performance to be proud of.
Speaking of Amanda and tampons, another old blog of hers I remember was a story about how she once forgot a tampon was in for days/weeks because she had used two at a time, forgot about that, and only removed one. She described waddling (I think that was her choice of word) down to her gyno because she couldn’t figure out what the smell was and the gyno took it out. Her blogs were so vivid and gross they’ve stuck in my memory entirely too long. At one point she wanted to sell or give away her glass dildo for reasons I can’t remember.
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Coming back with the excerpts, i decided to write a little summary for better understanding. (although i suggest you anons to read the book and come back to discuss together, it's quite short.) For now i decided to attatch book pages where she justifies exploiting her fans.
(also sorry for lack of capital a's, i have problems with my keyboard)
about the book & amanda:
>studied literature in Boston, worked as barista (among others), quit the job to become a living statue sort of 10 feet tall bride street artist. First part of the book describes her experiences
>lived in a sort of hippie commune for „crazy artists”, whose owner liked to be a patron/shelter provider to artistically inclined people. He was one of her first „patrons”
>since turning 13, she was a friend of therapist anthony & his wife. She went to his house to have cringey „lying on the freudian sofa american style” therapy and flood him with her BPD nonsense. He was also one of her patrons
>started The Dresden Dolls with drummer Brian. The parts of the book talking about DIY, music industry, financial side etc. i found very interesting. So what you need to know about this band is they had this very DIY, interactive-with-the-fans approach. They play clubs, private parties, fans houses, would collect fan’s e-mails & message them directly about new shows. Burn and sell their CDs, make merch. During shows, she’d yell „Hands up who lets us sleep at their house tonight?” and stay at the volunteering person's place. This continued into crowdsourcing, pay-what-you-want, Kickstarter and couchsurfing territories to extremes after TDD split as well, and amana became known as the queen of Kickstarter/that kinda stuff.
>borrowed money from a bunch of friends, recorded album more proffessionally. They finally signed with a metal-focused record label. The label promptly stopped promoting them when it decided they „don’t sell enough records” and „don’t have a hit single”. They refused to promote amanda’s band, but also refused to let her leave. When they finally dissolved the contract, she went independent. In celebration of it all, she recorded her first „pay what you want/free download” song called Do You Swear To Tell The Truth, The Whole Truth and Nothing But The Truth So Help Your Black Ass
>the internet was a crucial part of understanding amanda’s fanbase. Pretty much since the very beginning she had websites and blogs where she interacted with loads of people, which continued on Twitter and reached extreme oversharing levels. Fans dumped their problems in her comment section as well.
>one time she was kicked out of music shop for playing piano (well… she was politely asked to leave). She threw a tantrum and doxxed the owner online, which of course ended up in her fanbase flooding him with hate
>started using and abusing fan’s kindness pretty early on. Besides obvious shit like couchsurfing/sleeping, eating at their homes, getting free food, free rides to airport etc., she figured out she can get idiots to fill in support slots for free. She started recruiting local artists to play before each show – but oftentimes not as support gig, but as street artists doing their thing inside/outside the concert area. She didn’t pay them, the only money they earned came from whatever audience was generous to throw
>got addicted to Twitter, started organizing random solo ukulele performances outside, giving time & location online
>hired Zoe Keating to play cello on her next tour, but refused to pay other musicians. Road manager, lighting crew etc. were paid, but not musicians. Basically, she paid selected musicians & tour crew and treated others as volunteers. The players, called The Danger Ensemble, got food but no salary. Amana told them to pass the hat around the room and beg for money from their audience.
>started Kickstarter campaign, which was a very loud case and brought her a lot of criticism and drama. Basically she started Kickstarter for her next album (1 million $ was the goal). She reached that goal. I promise you recording of this album didn’t cost 1 million, so people wondered where the rest of that money went into.
>Even after raising that milion, she refused to pay her co-workers/supporting artists. Asked fans to join her onstage and play out the orchestral parts from the album, as volunteers, of course. Why hiring musicians when you can get your shit done for free?
>see, the whole point of her book is „the art. of asking”. She’s preaching about not being afraid to ask for help/for money and promptly chugging all the money & shit that your blinded fans offer you. The book is the story how she learned to overcome her fears and ask for help, blah blah blah. And the whole big story is how she for the love of God CaNNOT! Ask her own husband for help!
>at some point she went broke. This happened somewhere around the time she started Kickstarter campaign but didn’t reach her goal yet. She goes on and on how she’s too ashamed to ask Neil Gaiman for money cause she’d feel like a fraud, and her bitching and crying desperately in his arms about this situation. I mean, this is the person who had no qualms demanding money & free favours from thousands of people around the world, often quite poor people, but couldn’t borrow money from a fucking millionaire.
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>>1961260sorry for esl mistakes and lacking letters, can't bother to repost it another time. Continuing on the subject of fan's free labour thing:
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Kickstarter
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Her therapist/friend anthony got ill and was going through chemo at some point. They met to talk and she completely ignored him because her Kickstarter ofc was more important. Typical amanda behaviour lmao.
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That time she wrote a horrible true crime community tumblr tier poem and drama ensued. I'm just gonna say, yes it's a really bad poem kek
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Her relationship with Neil Gaiman is a whole other separate can of worms.
>met Neil Gaiman after she hired him to write little stories for an album companion art. book „Who Killed amanda Palmer” (made of her naked/dead pics)>he was around 48yo into 50s when she met him iirc>decided to get married but made it an open relationship. He proposed to her after she threw up on the sidewalk>amanda got pregnant and miscarried, which left her depressed and feeling very unwell. All throughout the whole proces, Neil never hugged or comforted her in any way, he just sat quietly. When she asked him why was he acting so cold, he said he was raised to never disturb and be very quiet around a sick person. A fucking 50+ year old was throwing justifications how „uwu he was just raised that way” and it never once came across this rotten mind that perhaps he should at least hug his mourning wife, sure Neil. >bonus: Neil Gaiman loves to insert pedo stuff in his graphic novels. This requiers a bit of googling to be precise since i’m not familiar with his art, (which i’m not doing right now), but i’ve read he has numerous novels including tropes of old fucks getting together with teenagers. He’s been called out and doing mental gymnastics in response („b-b-but it’s not real cp, free speech!”). I’d maybe ignore it if it happened once, but apparently it’s a recurrent thing in his „art”, which begs the question wtf is on his rotten mind. Or scratch that, i found a little summary of timeline with cringey facts and photos on Ohnotheydidn't:
https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/117915650.htmlAlso just throwing something about amanda that ISN’T mentioned in the book but still important:
>Amanda started a band called Evelyn Evelyn where she and another musician dressed as conjoined twins with ~tragic autistic sexually abused enslaved as circus freaks” backstory (can’t remember well but something like that”. Felt weird and fetishistic to some, so people side eyed it a lot.>faked suicide in front of her heroin addict boyfriend and recorded his reaction, "to get him to understand the pain that he was causing her due to his addiction". Then, she used that recording as a sample in Dresden Dolls song. The guy apparently commited actual suicide later on in his life.>had a sooper „artistic” performance onstage once where a girl dressed as Katy Perry was assaulted and raped. No. 1961282
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There are uber cringe oversharing moments ala discussions from bed like picrel. i can try to post a few more examples but not at the moment. Neil is a huge cow himself, would be a good fit for our new book cows thread. But i think it fits here as well since it's hugely amanda-related.
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>>1961278I like some of Gaiman's work, but I honestly kind of expected this. He does seem like the type who would marry a much younger, emotionally unwell woman. I pray for their kid and what he has to deal with.
No. 1961319
>>1961292Possibly, from what I remember Anthony died a couple of years ago, before her child was born.
I remember people talking she has bipolar disorder, which she allegedly describes in songs like Runs In The Family or Girl anachronism. Might be wrong but interestingly, i don't remember her writing about this in her book at all.
No. 1961383
>>1961267The fact she paid her crew but nobody else is pretty obviously because she wanted to secure them, they could skip her band and go to the next who would pay. For everyone else it's clear she didn't actually value their contributions or care if they showed up or not. Interesting how her husband is the only person she didn't try begging, same rationale the few people she actually respects she doesn't inflict begging shit on. Everyone else gets to be "bohemian" aka begger with tassles and glitter.
And where did that million she got in funding go? She probably laughed herself to sleep every night rolling in money while forcing everyone else to be a begging artist trope.
No. 1961531
>>1961480Kek but even if it's 100% crazy fan bullshit, i would be able to believe she took testosterone. Only and only because she's so hysterically reckless and impulsive enough to do dumbest of things "just cause".
I always thought she doesn't even have that crazy low voice naturally, she's just forcefully straining it as low as she can. She sounds like has the same exact "technique" as Emilie Autumn, singing as loud as she possibly can whilst straining it to the point your throat hurts.
>>1961383She said the rest went to to funding packaging & sending out, visuals, album graphics, tour bullshit like 50m long wedding veil she covered entire audience with while crowdsurfing etc and then she was left with "nothing" after that. But i have a very hard time believing it all went to music funding only. First of all, an artist of this calibre really doesn't need even half a million to record an album, and i don't believe she needed another half a million to send it out. There are artists who recorded albums that changed music history and sold in millions of copies but were recorded for 600 dollars or something. Secondly, there's a section in her book where she brings up stories of a couple of ppl who did a Kickstarter/Patreon and spend nearly all the money collected on funding their luxurious vacations or something alike, and she's whiteknighting them. Which might be an unintended sugestion she's spend a part of her money similar way.
No. 1961667
>>1961260Gosh, this is such a cringey trip down memory lane as I was a huge Dresden Dolls fan from like 2005 onward. I’m not sure if it’s mentioned in the book but she lived at the Cloud Club in Boston for a really long time. It was like an artist co op house and her rent was very very low iirc. She should’ve left once the Dolls became more successful. The only reason I can think she would’ve gone broke is being financially irresponsible. Maybe she overspent on the fancy (Kambriel iirc) costumes she wore at the time but knowing her she likely got them for free.
>>1961278It was obvious the second Gaiman came around that they were an item. Anyone remember “I Google You”?
As for Evelyn Evelyn, I thought the entire project was insanely creative and the album was good. Jason Webley is a very kind person and talented musician; I have no idea how he tolerates her. The early SJW outrage about Evelyn Evelyn actually being two able bodied people was hilarious and took me by surprise because I couldn’t believe there were people who genuinely didn’t realize it was Amanda and Jason.
Was anyone around for the #LOFNOTC days? That was some seriously parasocial shit.
No. 1963965
>>1963364he was obsessed with Tori, and honestly when she talks about it it’s clear it kind of freaked her out even though she’s all “oh, we’re great friends, we’re artistic buddies”
he is a very fucked up person, perhaps from the $cient0l0gy
No. 1964489
>>1964039I'm up for discussing him as well, idk if he's consisently milky enough rn to warrant one tho? if somebody can value this better then it'd be great. That being said, we have new bookcows thread so maybe it would be fitting?
>>1963364>And now he’s probably in the DMs of some 20 y/o tumblrina fujoYou bet. He has a tumblr account.