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Uh yeah that's a pretty stupid request.
"Honey, do you think you could not wear common female warm weather clothing around your brother? You know how any ounce of female flesh turns him on, even his own sibling!"
Her mom sounds fucked up, but not necessarily abusive? I don't know, I'd need more examples.
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She tweeted this today.. what original design has she done besides gender bends of male characters?
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Shes the queen of thinking she is the most original person in cosplay community. If she was so original she wouldnt feel copied all the time dont you think? Sorry your content is so generic ans youre so big headed.>>231064
I remember that. I think it was these pics she was referring to but she never really said. Either way to assume someone like yaya han saw her photo then deliberately went out of her way to copy it is so egotistical and ridiculous.
Again though this is the girl who claimed someone was desperate enough to copy her entire script reading personality so what do we expect lol.
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Despite her not saying who it is her minions are already shade tweeting and going for it. Once again she obviously name drops elsewhere so her most devoted can go after them. I wonder who the victim is this time.
Ugh Byndo. No one cares about you except thirsty fuccbois.
I'm really curious as to what was "stolen" because I honestly don't know of any 100% self-designed cosplays she's done. They're all, from what I can recall, accurate to the source material.
Yeah the Mimikyu or her gender bent FREE! Cosplays are the only "original" designs. And literally EVERYONE has done mimikyu the way she did it; there is only so much variation that can be done.
And miss "I'm boudoir Mercy because I'm in panties and a blonde unstyled ponytail wig" Byndo has no room to talk.
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Think this may be the "thief"? Mango said she copied wank-bank too (LOL) and this girl has a Mimikyu and a Cubone outfit.
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"I dont like causing witchhunts." Let me just DM anyone who asks the username.
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Yup. It's this girl.
Was it Hatter Insanity? I remember thinking her videos had a same feel, but there's a formula to getting YouTube hits so whatever. I recall they did a Haikyuu cosplay gingerbread video B E F O R E Nina and her ~*ONE TRUE LOVE IVE ONLY DATED FOR A FEW MONTHS BUT PLAN TO MOVE IN TOGETHER ALREADY*~, but I remember seeing the Haikyuu video vanish even though I remembered watching it.
It's such a shame. Mango is talented no doubt but she is so nasty behind the scenes it seems. I'm kind of glad I unsubbed from her Patreon a while back. I don't like her attitude at all.
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Saying the girl on the right copied is REALLY a stretch, imo..
It was her. My friend talked to both mango and hatter afterwards and mango proceeded to write a book about this year long vendetta shes had against hatter. Its pretty much anything hatter did was copying her in some way per her beliefs. It was pretty long bitchfest.
All hatter replied to my friend was that she didnt want any trouble so she complied but if mango still had any issues she could email her to sort it out.
Worst part, when my friend told mango to email hatter and sort it out in a civil way mango tweeted like "looks like ill be spending my day building a case email with screenshots" which is way above and beyond necessary imo. But she was also tweeting about legal action. Im just laughing because she wanted to go that far over a black friday video and gingerbread video which, as you said, went up prior to mangos. But mango also said she was trying so hard to copy her personality because while she watched it (i.e. stalking/lurking) she thought her own video project file started playing (meaning hers wasnt even edited yet).
Talk about delusional jfc. Honestly I did find similarities between the way they edit their videos, but it's all cookie cutter bs. Who cares. I don't think their personalities are similar (Mango is crazy and OCD) and hatter seemed pretty chill.
This kind of crap has really turned me off from Mango and it sucks, because I did genuinely enjoy her work but now it's not really worth it to me.
I agree i was a fan but these leaks in her true personality have really turned me off of her. Its obvious to anyone who sees her on twitter that she scripts all of her videos and reads from that so idk how anyone can copy a script personality.
I like Hatters videos because like you said she seems pretty chill. I feel bad for her because i know on twitter mango and her gross friend nighteyes said some awful stuff. Part of the convo of NE and another cosplayer iirc was that she wanted to wear her skin, was psychotic, robotic, etc. Just stuff like that and its just really made me look down on their whole group. How can a cosplayer on instagram host a positivity challenge then on twitter be so hateful.
It looks like hatter hasnt uploaded in a while but on instagram she said she was taking a break due to some issues online and family trouble but hopefully she comes back soon and doesnt let this shitty experience keep her off.
Jfc I remember those comments. Don't even get me started on Night Eyes, she is such a FUCKING train wreck and I'm so over her martyrdom.
It's no wonder shark baroness and Em don't talk to her anymore, I wouldn't want to be around her either. They don't seem to talk to Nina much anymore, either. I can see why.
Sharkbaroness is way too chill for that kind of drama. Heybasker def contributed earlier on to the hate against hatter and chimed in this last go around as well.
I think what i hated the most was that she posted (mango) something like. 'I hope this individual continues to make videos because theyre very entertaining, creative, good at editing.. etc etc' which is clearly for her image only because how are you going to send ppl after her and bad mouth her all over twitter then post a feel good on tumblr? It was almost karma justice when she got called out for brown facing. I was hoping shed take down her gingerbread video just like she bullied hatter in to doing.
Yeah. I've been happy to see Shark baroness doing her own thing; I've really enjoyed it. Basker seems cunty so I don't care. But I feel like NE is so toxic and shitty I don't know why anyone hangs out with her. I get that she ended a long engagement to a shitty fiancé and she allegedly has a TON of health issues, but no one likes a fucking martyr. Stop bitching about your problems and get help and make something happen. It's always excuses with her.
I died inside when I saw the drama over her darker skin. When has mango EVER Said she is Armenian before? I know she has mentioned like russian (?) and a few other Caucasian mixes before, but BOTH of her parents are white af so there is no FUCKING way she is enough Armenian to be THAT FUCKING DARK. my fiancé is 100% Puerto Rican and I'm white as shit, and he NEVER looks as dark next to me as Mango did.
NE is a damn mess. She complains constantly about all her illnesses on her cosplay twitter (when she has a private one) then bitches if anyone tried to offer advice or support. She only wants your sympathy not your input.
And shes only armenian suddenly because it conveniently explains why shes 11 shades darke suddenly. Notice all her proof photos werw filtered all to hell. Like if youre really that much darker why not post a picture of you and your gf without any filter at all? Because the fact is while she may be tanmer than her gf shes not THAT dark. She fucked up and she tried to cover it up with a 'but im mixed!' Excuse.
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Found it. its even more lol worthy than i remembered
Oh my god. Every single tweet is dripping with a holier than thou attitude. My first thought if I got messages like "get some rest!" Would be appreciative… not "OMG IM AN ADULT WITH A "stressful" (LOL OK) career" IM NOT A BABY!!!
Such a brat
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My question is, this girl is always going on and on about her brand (i s2g its like she gets paid for using the word) but yet she makes videos where she looks like she just crawled out of bed. I mean, she used to put effort in to being all dolled up and pleasant/genuine but now her videos seem like just something she haa to do in her busy schedule. Pic related.
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Look at this backtracking to protect her image. She gives usernames privately so people cant say she called them out. Then acts shocked when her followers go after them.
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I did a simple google search and found this pic and many others, if you google "Mimikyu gjinka" or "Mimikyu Cosplay" you'll find multiple pictures with similar costumes that were done way before Mango. Why was she whining and bitching about credit? Nothing about her cosplay was original given the design was simple as can be, she just sounds jealous and salty to be honest. Sage for shit posting.
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I literally just googled her username and copying and came across this gem on her account. Shes been at this for a while because this post is dated Aug 2015
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This was pretty easy to find. Im amazed at how abusive her home is really, with her parents providing her a second sewing room and all. In all of her streams she sews in her room so im assuming that sewing room must be a god awful mess. Im just wondering, her twitch just donated over 1K to her for a custom streaming PC to stream new stuff like games, but she is always complaining about never having time to even play her brand new PS4 she treated herself to. So lets see how long it takes her to buy that PC if she ever does.
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She posted this earlier today. She wants to charge $60 per photoshoot and $25 for each additional person? If anyone in their right mind saw her pictures theyd never pay that ridiculous price. Her photos are nowhere near quality enough to charge that much. Heres her flickr if anyone wants to take a look, her photos are always full of noise, basic composition, and poorly edited.https://www.flickr.com/photos/24382434@N08/
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People never doubted the fact that she could be tanner than her GF, who is indeed pale. People were accusing her of darkening her face specifically for Lance who is Cuban. You can clearly see a difference in color from her face to her neck/hands and while she tried to blame the lighting in the video, her selfies also show the same difference. So the fact remains. She either brownfaced (even 1 shade is still on purpose girl) or shes been constantly whitewashing for her videos and selfies.
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How dare u. Check ur facts, obviously she stepped out in to the sun to activate her super special armenian skin to instantly became brown in time to cosplay Lance duh.
Looks like shit contouring, coupled with her summer foundation. It was currently winter, so she'd had three months of less sun. Really no worse that what you might see at Walmart, but it's the intent that matters, in this case.
While she may be the same brightness as white people in past photos, her skin has a warm undertone. Warm undertones usually tan darker, I should know, I do, even though I'm ethnically white. She gets a pass because she ~armenian poc~ but she's pretty white passing most of the time.
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Picture on the right - first image
Picture on the left - second upload
They tried to prove she wasnt brown facing by uploading the same image with a different filter. I guess they didnt realize that in both filters the color of her face is 100% different than the color of her hand.
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Except I am positive she is. Look at her parents. NEITHER OF THEM ARE REMOTELY DARK skinned. I mean maybe her dad could be some fraction POC but I REALLY dont believe that Mango is actually POC, esp because I vividly remember in a stream or video that she mentioned her ethnic background and NONE OF IT was POC.
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If anything she is a fraction of a fraction because this grown man only has a mild tan. Even with bright lighting. And i can assure you he probably goes outside on the daily. So her POC tan makes no sense when you compare the picture of her pale mom and tan dad to her pale GF and tan self.
This picture is from the video she uploaded RIGHT before the gingerbread one where she Lance.
Thats a lot of effort for somebody who doesnt care tbh. What she did, and basically swept under the rug, was not okay. She refused to acknowledge her wrongdoings and her white knights flattered her in to thinking it was okay. Real POC cosplayers are always having to explain that they are in fact x color which is embarrassing to the community and unfair to those cosplayers. This girl used that same fight to try and make it okay.
Also, what some people dont care about others do, so dont bump the thread with your useless spam posts.
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I wonder how long it will be before Nina subtweets and/or bullies Hatter about cosplaying Prompto
What the fuck?
So, I point out that lolcow is NOT tumblr and we DO NOT give a shit about your diaper rash for ~POC!!!1~ means I'm one of these dumb bitches? Nah. You're just annoying, and I'm pointing it out. Your obnoxious need to scream about brown foundation is excessive and sad.
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So bashing wankbank for brown facing, fine. Bashing Mango for it, not ok?
Whatever you say
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Getting this thread back on track, move on from the tumblr arguing guys seriously, I saw these comments on that Mimikyuu cosplayers facebook. This girl did not need to add any credit to her imo, the design is completely different as the cosplayer stated. I think she's just mad this Jinx girl's is more accurate and cuter. This backwards comment of trying to compliment and shame her at the same time after making such a huge deal on twitter is ridiculous
She'd better get started on her crusade on every single Mimikyu cosplayer because I guess her design is the ONLY WAY to make it.
I personally like this other girl's design more. The material and overall texture fit the Pokémon a lot more. A burlap sack sounds a lot more fitting than fleece. Mango is so entitled.
I understand the girl just wanted to keep the peace but I'm pissed that she caved in and gave Mango credit when she doesn't fucking deserve it. That's her cosplay, she designed it, she made it, but now when her photos go around, it's gonna have Mango's name stapled on for no good reason. It's bullshit and the fake ass "uwu we as artists need to stick together! So happy this had a happy ending! <3 :3 " just read to me as "HAHA I got my way!"
She's like a schoolyard bully but she's regarded as some pure angel who can do no wrong in the community.
Subtweeting is so immature. She acts as if she's so "above" behavior like that but she isn't fooling anyone. I used to subtweet ALL the time or "vaguebook", and I eventually grew up and saw how fucking stupid it was.
If she has beef, she should be an adult and take it to private messages, not whining on her public social media to garner the pity of her peons.
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Because if she didnt subtweet and actually handled it privately like a mature human being she wouldnt get to make posts like this with everyone praising her and feeling sympathy for her. Its all about the drama and public shaming tbh. Made my favorite one bigger, accusing others of policing others while their precious Mango literally just policed another cosplayer over a damn pokemon costume.
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Theyre moving to a different state at that so its not even built for a fallback. Mango mentioned in her "please give us money so we can move" post that shed be supporting the both of them until her gf can find a job so I imagine thats not the last time her fans donation money will go to her living expenses vs. Her actual costuming. Which her patreon details that that money given by fans is strictly to produce more content for them. Or move out of state with her gf i guess lol.
What did they get each other?
I know people were harassing Nina and Em about Em's relationship with Shiki, but that only lasted a few months too, I believe. Em and Shiki seam to be on good terms, but I have a feeling that Shiki is too career focused for such an intense, public relationship. What does Em even do irl?
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Her aggressive response to this is down right hilarious. Why are you so defensive nina? And her gf's reply of, we've been together for 4 months (but only seen one another irl maybe 3 or 4 times fyi) so how dare you.
JESUS the way she writes is so condescending and cunty. KNOWING SOMEONE for two years and being romantically involved for two years are two ENTIRELY different things. It is also very different to be LDR for four months and dating and seeing each other regularly for four months.
When we were dating, my fiancé and I knew we eventually wanted to live together but we waited until we had dated a year before we pulled the trigger
and, even after I stayed over EVERY WEEKEND for almost that entire year, living together was an entirely different beast.
This is going to crash and burn and I can't wait to see it happen. Nina must KNOW they're crazy for moving in so soon, which is why she's so insanely butt hurt by people calling her out on it.
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As a cosplayer with a larger follower count it was so immature for her to publicly get involved in a mess that could have easily been resolved had mango just messaged that girl. Instead both she, and this girl decides to subtweet about it to the masses.
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These dresses have a nice concept but they look awful in these photos. Theyre so ill fitting and unflattering. I dont know why a cosplay magazine would feature this (and her friends basic galaxy makeup) over actual cosplay related tutorials. While fandom dresses make sense this is bottom of the barrel imo
She probably is really underweight. Early in December she made an inspirational
Instagram post about losing 50 pounds and being able to run. At her heaviest, she said she was weighed 155 pounds.
Did she ever mention her numerous food allergies before 2016? It seems like that and those cancerous cells she said she has during her Katsucon 2016 vid popped up around the same time. That's why she works so hard, is thin, or some bs.
Holy shit this girl is fugg as hell>>236068
Plus who showcases anything sports related while wearing bargain bin sandals and ebay heels, isnt she super proud of being sporty? Just wear some cute running shoes or some shit jesus
But don't tell her that. Remember, she flipped out when people didn't like the new artsy
direction she was taking her convlogs because what she does is art
. Because, ya know, people want to see that.
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I used to like her, but then she tweeted some shit during the Pulse Shooting in Orlando that pissed me off. I had to go back and cap them.
She tweeted she was so sad for the community and her headspace wasn't good for streaming. However, then she tweeted later in the day that she had a headache but still did work. Really?
Yeah, I remember recently she mentioned wanting some Starbucks drink and people commented with how she could make substitutions to ingredients for muh allergies
and she went off on them. She hates everyone's attempts to help so much she either needs to just NEVER WHINE about anything (what a concept) or learn to politely accept people's genuine attenpts to offer help instead of being a condescending twat.
This video was for that ugly coffee skirt simplicity offered her to make as well. If it was supposed to be a tutorial it didnt really teach anyone anything imo. It was more just stupid artsy shots of her running around with that horrible wig. But she only has mimicked sympathy because she has a follower count. If she didnt feel obligated to i doubt shed tweet anything at all. >>236665
They get annoyed because people are constantly offering suggestions or trying to help (see >>232112
for her usual reactions to it) but yet dont realize that if they werent constantly bitching and complaining people wouldnt be trying to help out somehow or send words of encouragement.
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Shes so hypocritical. Always whining about copyright, branding, original design etc. But it only counts if you arent her friend/suck up to her. She sends people after any cosplayer or youtuber who has even remotely similar content but a buddy has basically the same thumbnails and she defends them lol
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I don't know if it's just the angle in the second pic, but her legs look skeletal.
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I wonder who pissed her off this time. Love that second tweet. She's one to talk.
It's because she's trying to pass herself off as some cosplay mother who has been through all the trails and tribulations and is trying to teach all the poor souls who are new to cosplay…
As long as you don't dare send her an ask.
She mentioned coffee. I'm starting to wonder if her health problems stem from or are aggravated by all the coffee she consumes.
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What the hell is this? Ive never sent this girl an ask before but I just went to the link and saw this message. 'Be thankful' calm your fucking ego you arent the all-knowing cosplay queen jfc.
This girls fakeness seriously pisses me off. If she were just some other cosplay jerk it wouldnt mean much but the fact she is a manufactured fake who has the audacity to bully others for not being original just rubs me all kinds of wrong. I really wish someone would call her out in some kind of way but shed just get her trashy friend and cosplay contacts to go for blood.
But i remember her and Beth having this long sex-related convo on their cosplay twitters about how dudes just didnt do it for them and its like, 1. You preach youre here for the younger generation and to keep things PG but you wont do the same. and 2. text your friend about your sex life no one on your cosplay page gives af
This is really nitpicky of me, but it's extremely annoying how much she mentions coffee. I don't think there's a single video where she doesn't mention it at least once.> "I haven't had my coffee yet!" > "Now that I have coffee I can start working!"> "Coffee, coffee, teehee I'm so quirky and relatable, coffee!"
It's so tryhard and obnoxious.
Mid-twenty-somethings who act like they're grown and wise seemingly tend to be the most immature people. She definitely acts like she is all-knowing when it comes to cosplay which adds to her condescending attitude towards noobies in the community.
In reality, she's just decent at basic wig styling, she can sew well enough, and she produces clean work. She's not at all on the level of many other cosplayers in the community who do clean, elaborate work and I don't think she's made anything that would be considered impressive or above-average in terms of difficult craftsmanship. She acts like some authority figure in the cosplay community and really needs to get her head out of her ass. There are so many other people in the community who are much stronger than her at craftsmanship that don't have an over inflated ego like she does.
I think it was intro to photoshoots video where she acted like she was so old and there was no internet to book photographers. Girl, you started going to cons in 2007. The internet was thing. Youtube existed, as did Facebook. Cosplay.com was not the end all be all.
Now talk to people who've been cosplaying since before 2000. Talk to people who did cons back then and further back. See how they did things.
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Some of the people she trashes have better craftsmanship than she does, or her friends. She tried at one point going off that the girl who copied her channel copied something from her ex-maybe-friend Em's Makoto costume and Im just laughing because her Makoto was some slapped together looking disaster. I also found this gem, for anyone questioning if this girl is all that bad (see pic). One of her cosplay goals (7.5K??? seriously???) is to publish a beginners guide book. Because all the books made by Kamui and online resources just arent enough. She needs 7.5K a MONTH to somehow make a book that is basically a regurgitation of her Cosplay 101 videos (aka basic fucking knowledge)
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Just found this, it's optional.
Wow look at that another lie.
I think i remember her gf telling the story of how they first met. She said they approached her at a con and she called Mango by the wrong username and she was ugly to her about it so she thought she hated her.
I dont remember it word for word but remember thinking how it def makes the accounts of her being a bitch at cons that much more credible.
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I'm just interested in seeing if she bullies other Prompto cosplayers. She acted nice in her wig styling video like she can 'relate to the pain' of this costume but it wont take long for her to compare herself to other Prompto's and probably talk shit behind their backs. But we wont know what hers looks like, because its super secret Patreon only until the con next month. All we have is a tiny screenshot one her suckups posted asking about her fabric choice but then mango quickly asked her to take it down because it was 'private' lol. Ive attached it.
Better send my entire fan base on a witch hunt because BITCH STOLE MUH PLAID!!! Oh except don't bully them!!! I don't want them to get bullied… BUT DONT WORRY cosplay whore friends, I'll be sure to DM you about it so you can go on their page and shit post, in addition to subtweeting on your own twitters…
Tee hee time for my second cup of coffee because I'm so quirky FAITO ^_~
Yeah. If you DARE ago say anything all of her shitstain minions, ONE TRUE LOVE
, nighteyes "I'm a martyr DONT YOU ARE TRY TO HELP ME" cosplay, byndo, and that fucking creeper "Mikey" guy that could not be further up mangos asshole, will subtweet on their accounts and Tumblr you into oblivion.
I agree with other comments here. I started following Nina back in like 2013/2014 when I was getting back into cosplay and was looking for some tutorials. She was so much more genuine then. Now she's just flat, dull, boring. Everything is read off of a script to make herself sound so adult
and mature. She doesn't have any realness left in anything she does.
It's a shame. She does have talent and I really enjoyed her work, but her personality coupled with her nose dive into her cold, manufactured "brand", has really left a sour taste in my mouth.
I can slightly believe that magazine asked her to make a tutorial. But i can bet money beth was brought in as either a space filler of just because shes nina's friend. Shes featured as a cosplay makeup artist but her makeup is medium skill at best. On top of that her tutorial is for a galaxy painted across your face based on some artwork. I didnt know you could be published by recreating someone elses design (aka, copyright).>>237425
Oh man that Mikey guy is so sad tbh. He thinks theyre friends but not once have i ever seen her tweet to him, she always just responds to his tweets at her. He buys her hundreds of dollars worth of stuff and even moderates her stream so he waits around, then stays in it the entire time to mod for free. This guy is delusional and shes totally using him.
I'm no fucking makeup pro but neither Beth or Nina are as GIFTED as makeup as they seem to think they are. It's shitty foundation with pencil thin drawn on eyebrows that make them look like Disney villains.
Mikey is pathetic and so is that one Fee501st guy or whoever it is. He is ALL OVER Byndo and Makiroll and buys them SO MUCH SHIT. Makes me want to just whore myself out with underwear pics if it means some lonely neckbeard would buy shit off my Amazon wishlist.
Don't even get me started on her self care day video.
Beth needs her own thread.
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Here's one of many instances where he's jumped to her defense and run his mouth without actually being involved or knowing anything about the other party. Gotta defend that senpai who pretends im her bff.
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Samefag here. Whoops.
People arent famous, theres no such thing as cosfame.
This coming from someone who has thousands of followers. Tell me, would you be preaching this if you only had 50? I doubt it. Shes always going on about that shit this is like the 3rd time shes whined about it. If you dont want the attention delete your channel, remove yourself from your public dance group, and stop being hungry for attention. Mango always agrees with these stupid tweets and its like, youre more guilty of being fame hungry than anyone else!
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Adding this to the thread because I will never understand why Nina didnt just delete the comment and move on. Instead she had to go after her, then allow her followers to also go after this user. Oh wait.. why would she delete it when she can tweet about her hurt feelings and cause drama?
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Christ, she's annoying.
Lmao armenians are white christians. anyone trying to milk the POC milk while being white as snow is despicable, no matter where your grandparents came from.>>232112
Jesus what a bitch. Just straight out say you want the "ohhh poor you stay safe my baby;;;;" treatment and not friendly advice. >>232264
A lot of cosplayers who act super sweet and nice and polite on their "official" channels (facebook and youtube) reveal their true selves on Twitter. Twitter makes it so much easier to let yourself go unscripted. >>234749
idc about Tumblr brownface wahhing but she's obviously using makeup to look tanner. Her neck is a complete different color and her face has that distinct reddish makeup shade, not a natural darker skin tone which are more yellow-hue. >>235187
lmao, You can just see her gritting her teeth while writing that "friendly and squeamish" reply while still remaining completely passive-aggressive. >>235700
This. 25 is still young as hell and you can still make stupid decisions based on lack of life experience. a 24-year old has what, 6 years as a legal adult? And probably 4 years as an actual young adult?
Reading this was physically painful. First, no one fucking asked if you designed it because we don't care.
The latter portion of it is DRIPPING with that condescending "DONT COPY ME" attitude. Fuck before this thread she was alright but reading all this is putting her in a new light and it's so shitty and cringey. I'm glad Shark Baroness got out when she did. She seems to be getting some success, doing some YT still, and has made some very cute and clean costumes (her Mercy at Blizzcon was adorable I saw it). Em Manface basker seems to have distanced herself too as I don't see those two talking nearly as much as they used to.
At first I was surprised Nina sided with Beth after that PUBLIC TWITTER SHITSHOW Beth and Sharkbaroness had, but now I see they're a perfect fit. They both bitch and moan about how awful their allergies and lives are and they can bully people together. A perfect shitty team.
Not sure who youre asking for for twitter handles but the username for jillian is sharkbaroness.>>237520
I remember that shit show! J basically wanted space from them because they were essentially being shitty friends and Beth was being a massive bitch about it like, dont accuse me! Or something lol. They deleted the convo i think then J went out on her own and is happy with her twitch and all. I always thought it was kind of shitty that Nina joined twitch literally right after J did and jacked most of her viewers by streaming on the EXACT same nights and times. Shitty friend imo
Wow I never knew Nina did that. But I'm not surprised.
I remember some of the fight was also because J seemed to be struggling with some depression/something similar and would push people away, which Beth then publically attacked her about (J was on a private twitter, Beth on her public one iirc). It was a huge public shitfest and they then got mad that ppl were commenting trying to help or something. Maybe don't air all of your dirty laundry in public then you fat cunt.
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You guys owe me $$ because finding this shit in the shitstorm that is her twitter was tough. Hopefully it didnt resize it weird im on mobile lol
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Also, proof of using a public cosplay page to attention seek. Mango does this same shit. Im gonna whine but dont you dare respond.
That's probably why she's "so busy". I can't stand that she keeps up this "I have fifty jobs and I don't have time to do a n y t h i n g!!!" when we ALL KNOW that there is no way in hell she has 16+ hours of YouTube/patreon/etc work a day. My 9-5 is hectic and busy and I STILL have plenty of time to do shit.
But I guess stalking other cosplayers that may copy muh origunal designs do not steal is a full time, 24/7 job
I know for sure shes monitored the youtuber for over 1 year and has built a massive file of shit she claims was stolen/copied. Its like, of you spend all youre time looking for problems youre going to invent them where they arent.
And she is always complaining about all her jobs. Her LinkedIn profile state currently she has youtube, twitch, and does freelance editing but only lists 3 projects for 4 years lol. Seriously her job is to make costumes and take pics/film it as she goes. Then decide what part of the photos and footage goes to youtube or to patreon. She paints herself as this super work driven adult who sleeps only 2 hrs because shes so so busy when really, no one forced you to make 4 new costumes in less than 2 months. Stop bitching about shit you decided for yourself.
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I saw Ems armor she's making for her link cosplay and idk I just think it looks awful. Even my first time working with worbla was WAY cleaner than this. This stuff looks like shit.
Her craftsmanship is extremely subpar. As is beths. Their follower count comes from association with nina tbh. But you can look at any of ems past costumes shes never really improved despite all the time shes been cosplaying. And i agree with the worbla mess, she is either rushing this project and not caring about the cleanliness of it or shes just unskilled. If nina wasnt so in love
with her shed never do a partner cosplay with someone of her level. I mean even in convlogs you could see nina having to jump in and help her friends finish their poor quality costumes in time for their group shoots lol
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Yeah im going to assume shes just rushing because the weathering shes been doing is awful. There are plenty of resources online including her gf that could help her improve.
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But wait, theres more! I would day sep/oct was a busy year for bitching but shes like this 24/7 so its nothing new. Once again using her public cosplay profile to complain about her health. Im no dr but im pretty sure 90% of those pills are vitamins of some kind. She cried about her therapist and herbal medicine dr (idk what theyre called) not being covered by her insurance so ppl could giver her $ at Christmas.
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I think im getting pretty good at this lol. Highlight the best and most hypocritical parts.
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But i guess she can preach about being fair to cosplayers and protecting one another/avoiding drama only when it suits her. This is all that screenshots i have for right now lol. Also, the 'copied thumbnail brand' shit, please see >>236672
because apparently its ok if youre friends tho
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I'm surprised she hasnt called filed copyright infringement on any other channels, considering her 'design' is pretty much everywhere. Yet she was threatening to file a cease and desist against one specific channel just last month. Does she plan to fight anything thats remotely similar?
I wouldn't doubt that honestly. Unless the delusion is so strong that literally these people, and the countless others with similarities are all ripping off her precious channel.
Also, she just made this long ass post on her Hythe tumblr breaking down her thoughts on Voltron season 2 and reading through it was a literal nightmare. She has turned this show in to your typical gender/sexist/cliche tumblr bitch fest and it made me so mad because I really enjoy the show lol. Please leave the fandom, you complain the other fans are constantly ruining the taste of it for you but you're just as bad as they are with your crazy shit.
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Why does she always have to be so ugly. She couldnt just say, "thanks for sharing my photo if you could please add these credits thats be great!" Instead she has to be her backhanded self.
There have been so many cases of people saying she was ugly to them irl at a con. Shes only friendly when shes getting paid for you to approach her, like when she stood around at the simplicity booth. I always thought it was funny she wore her shadowcat but didnt even bother to make sure all her blonde real hair was tucked in to the wig lol
Super professional. I also hate how her costumes arent even that amazing yet people like her shoes like shes some top tier crafter.
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She didnt just respond to this comment on youtube and let her fans after her as you mentioned. She also tweeted about it calling them out so her fans there could run in to help since her youtube audience either doesnt really care, or didnt do enough damage for her tastes.
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You'd think considering she sells PDFs of how she made these costumes she'd try a little harder not to make hers so lumpy looking. She should have attached the zipper afterwards because now it just indents the puff skirt. And the boobs are ridiculous looking
Tacky shit? Thibra, Tomei clay or resin?
Her stuff is clean, definitely. Too bad she's batshit.
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Schools someone for making a personal opinion comment regarding pokemon GO on youtube. Proceeds to tweet so all followers know of her good, unnecessary, deed.
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The proof is right there on her twitter. Example, being so egotistical that she truly believes someone is trying to actually mimic her and be just like her, and then responds to a tweet with the photo showing that she is the name brand and this other person is off brand. Its unflattering and egotistical of her especially since i doubt she or her followers personally know the other party involved so to assume their personality isnt geniuine but a copy of Mango's is really something. I think this >>237439
is a part of it as well, calling the other party a knockoff and shit lol
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This is the best I could do with a closeup that didn't have her peace signing to hide her cheek.
At least she isn't openly smiling. Her giant gap between her front teeth triggers
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She is always doing some kind of peace sign to hide her chin in photos she can control the angle or editing on, so all pics with her fans basically lol.>>238209
She mentioned she wasnt going to do voltron armor because the fandom was just so awful or some shit. Tbh it probably is the voltron armor but that 'super secret' thing her and lettelle are doing with it is so dumb. Its like back in the day when cosplayers never said who they were working on so people wouldnt do the same costume.>>238208
Ive watched a few of her videos after seeing thr shit in this thread and i literally see nothing special about them. Theyre filmed and edited just like every other pinterest girl on youtube. Her voice is the worst though because you can tell shes reading from a script, and all her little bloopers or quirks look so faked its painful. But yet shes tweeted about having to take legal action over someoen copying her. Cant help but wonder, with the pokemon shit, of she ever even emailed this person shes bitched about for a year or if she just keeps tweeting.>>238186
An ED wouls make sense. All the new-age allergies and intolerances she complains about can definitely be a result of that or shes just convinced herself she has them.
Honestly its not awful but jesus h christ there are dresses from MA*RS and other japanese brands that make that exact type of dress(i own one its hella cute)
Why would you make that pumpkin ass sit so low on you??? Whats with the tits??
Again the wig wasnt bad at all and made the whole thing less strange looking,
but the lookof this dress is awful, her weird physique aside she couldve made the cut of this thing so much more flattering and more true to the source material, sorry but the shape of this is honestly harrowing ech
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The thing that kills about this cosplay is in everything we've seen of it, she's barely smiling. I've never seen the show, but it looks like this is a cheery character.
Also sorry. On mobile.
What the fuck? All this girl has been doing for the past few months is damn challenge videos with a ~cosplay twist~ please explain how that justifies being so heinous to another cosplay youtuber?? Seriously she made a damn video "How to draft patterns" and teaches you NOTHING about drafting patterns. She instead shows you rulers and books and tools for drafting. Its one of her more clickbait 'tutorials'. Girl needs to calm the fuck down.>>238357
It really kills me she couldnt figure out a way to pattern it so that seam across the bottom could be removed. There had to be some way to make it all one pieces and use sheet batting vs. pillow fluff to achieve the poof she wanted without the lumps.
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Her makeup is always tragic. She literally drew the characters eyelashes on to her eyelids in her 'tutorial'.
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Her eyebrows were fine before. She opted to shave off her naturally thin eyebrows (left) in order to draw on pencil thin ones(right). This was prompted, if i remember right, but night eyes doing the same thing.
kek she pulled a skyleigh, same pose and everything.
also why does she look so unfortunate? makeup makes go from average to pretty decent looking, which is why cosplay can be amazing and fun, but every pic of her on google is dull and ugly. poor gal. also i feel like her having borderline ana legs doesn't do her any favors
Yeh I saw that Hatter is back from her YouTube break (IE: hiding from Nina and her minions). I really hope they leave her alone. She isn't remotely copying Nina and I find her a lot more genuine and pleasant to watch.
Maybe that's why Nina hates her…
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I always assumed it was the turban since thats the only thing they both did different from the actual art of the costume. Makoto has more of a headwrap. But in one of Nina's vlogs shes actually hot gluing Baskers turban together in the hotel room. Not to mention it was a public tutorial Nina put out http://mangosirene.tumblr.com/post/87175249309/i-love-how-your-turban-came-out-for-desert-haru
and Hatter gave credit on instagram for the use of said tutorial so like.. my brain is hoping that logically this isnt one of the things theyre bitching at her for but i have a feeling it is. I also think, but i cant prove since basker deleted her cosplay tumblr, that she had it linked in her FAQ.
I take back my statement of the wig being decent, nOPE this whole thing is a mess.
Shit fabric choices too and its like bleach to the eyes.
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I mean like, look at the difference in fabric and construction with this one you can buy? The overall shape, color choices.. it just makes you question her decisions with this one.
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Something is off. Left is back when she was really fit and right is from a couple days ago.
Depending on the BMI calculator (yeah, I know) used she's somewhere between 7-10 lbs. underweight for her height, based on her Instagram >>236637
. Relatively, that's not terrible based on weight alone, but parts of her attitude about food and exercise really throws up red flags. Also caffeine (looking at her dependence on coffee) is a common stimulant and appetite suppressor often abused by those with an ED.
She went to school for fashion, but she apparently wants to go back for nutrition. I don't know how that would go, considering her diet and prior bad habits.
I wonder what she presents in her cosplay fitness panels. Won't know because they're filmed for patreon only.
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Okay, I read that wrong. But it's still behind a pay wall.
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Out of the ten post under bonus videos theres only one panel and its for makeup (lol). The rest are bloopers of her terrible challenge videos and the after darks. So she hasnt delivered on that content. She also had to change her 'meet the cosplayers' format because i guess the interview video she did once didnt get many views (= no $ in it for her) so now she just makes a post on patreon i think. Which again, doesnt showcase them to her full reach.
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I just went in to her stream where she's working on Prompto. She was ironing the patches on but she said she vectored them herself then had them commissioned in to patches but she is straight up using this girl from tumblr's vectors like nearly every other prompto cosplayer. Talk about taking copying/taking credit wtf. I also searched through the notes on the original post with these images http://hitorishin.tumblr.com/post/150542830873/since-its-hard-to-find-anything-online-for-a
and she hasnt liked it or shared it at all.
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Just adding the tweet where she claimed she vectored them out herself.
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To add. You can see they are the exact same here. The tumblr user added the wing to the ULF patch because she stated there is no clear image of the symbol. The RTN one has the exact same shape and red swirls beneath it, all things the girl from tumblr added herself due to not having clear references.
Thats extremely awful of her to not credit the tutorials she uses publicly but then put them in to the breakdowns she CHARGES for. Like, if you know your should be giving credit and include it in something you're paid for then you know you should be giving public credit to the artists who's work your using. These patches >>240519
>>240471 i've seen used by other promptos who just print and iron them on but to say she vectored her own patches when thats clearly a lie? I can't understand how she thinks its okay only to credit in a limited area where only people who buy those shitty breakdowns will see it.
Truth be told when I first saw her making/selling those I was really shocked because she is very guarded with her methods of construction. This girl is constantly like 'I bought it from taobao and the seller doesnt exist anymore'. Which at this point, has to be because she just doesnt want people using the same techniques/buying the same things. Now we know her breakdowns are plain vauge crap as well and Im not surprised.
lmao flipped through this magazine in a used book store, it was just garbage like this.
even had a whole article on ~queen of cosplay~ Nigri
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Can I say I am confused by what she's wearing? Shes got a long sleeved shirt on with the mermaid blanket, but then her legs are bare underneath?
That little show of skin though lol
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This picture is so extra i laughed. I mean the trouble of staging this whole thing just to pimp the blanket. I have to say that wig absolutely does not flatter her long face shape at all, and the photoshop on her face is so terribly done. But the best thing about it is the (picture added) info on the bottom. If your damn 'leggies' are cold put on some pants!
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I dont know why but this tweet from her girlfriend really bothers me, just because youre a cosplayer and studied enough to do the wig it gives you the right to judge others artwork because the hair isnt drawn to your belief of how it should be? IDK maybe im over thinking it.
I have problems with it as well honestly. I think that part of it is that she's kind of… wrong?? Like I haven't seen that much art that got his hair wrong.
Also that wig should be pretty straight forward to style. It's something that would take me 45 minutes, tops. Unless she went the crunchy tacky glue method.
And the interesting thing is that a lot of cosplayers with this superiority complex is that they're usually also hypocritical. For example, I used to have a friend that didn't cosplay very often, but had these unreasonable standards that applied to everyone else except her and I. I don't know if this is the base with Letelle, but it wouldn't surprise me.
This is somewhat off topic, but I watched Mangos makeup videos (all four of them) and it's somewhat surprising to me that her makeup skills seem to have gotten worse. She seemed so much more pleasant 4-5 years ago. But I guess that's what following bullshit cosplay makeup rules does to you. Also, I'll never understand how anyone can say that Kat von D's pen liner is good.
Thanks for validating my observation! (no really, thanks) Again, superiority complexes often = hypocrisy. It's unfortunate.
I honestly feel really bad for anyone looking for cosplay makeup tips on youtube. Your options are asian girls with monolids and people like Mango and Beth. Either you're gonna get someone who gives tips for people with features like them or people who are terrible at makeup. And from my experience, both groups seem to put so much emphasis on these makeup rules that are complete bs.
It seems like in the cosplay cosplay youtube community, it's one of those three circle venn diagrams where you can only choose two options. You have to choose between someone who posts often, someone who has good video quality, and someone who has a lot of heart.
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$100 a month for a custom drawing from a girl whos at a very low level skill set in drawing?? I can imagine her 1 supporter in that category is probably that Mikey guy who just throws his money at her for every little thing.
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I mean seriously. Just a brief check of his twitter or patreon shows how wrapped around her he is. I cant tell if its just his own desperation at thinking theyre actually friends of if shes led him on enough to keep him around and financially sustaining her.
She's throwing everything to the wall to see if it sticks.
I would also bet that icon for the tier is her super secret armor project.
iirc he bought her like a $300 Fran figure/statue just because she likes the character. Also recently he tweeted to her about ordering a calendar because he thought his was lost in the mail and then it showed up. But she could keep the money and cancel his order. Its pretty funny considering he's overseas and has never actually visited her in person. But I wonder how awkward it will be when he finally does and she actually has to hang out with the dude.
Also, she is really stretching with her merch. I checked out her store and she sells her face on magnets, pouches, buttons, and a slew of other crappy products http://www.storenvy.com/stores/572892-mango-sirene-cosplay
even big cosplayers like jnigri and yaya han dont stoop to plastering their face on every type of printable merch they can.
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who the hell would pay 12$ for a shitty mirror selfie
The same people would would pay for a
breakdown that >>240835
described as being very terrible pretty much. Lack of actual information and just 'lol follow this tutorial' which she never credits the tutorials or creators publicly.
Her and courtoon are most likely not friends. They dont interact even when theyre at the same cons and they dont speak at all on any social media. Courtney probably got tired of all of Ninas drama and cut ties same as Shark baroness (Jillian). It seems like Beth might be the source because after they became friends is when nina started being a mega bitch towards other cosplayers.
As for premiere pro, which she uses to edit, they do a set fee for the month/year to use so its not like shes having to drop 700 on a program so thats a terrible excuse.
From pictures shes shared in the past that sewing room is a disaster. But on her streams her 'super pinterest mermaid room' is also a horrible mess. And she also will work in the basement as shes mentioned so her entire house is probably awful. She said in her last stream her parents were oot so she was painting in the damn living room and if her parents knew theyd be pissed because its so messy. Like just paint your shit outside what kind of brat are you that you need to spread out in your entire house?
As for her illness she said something in a past video about dormant cancer cells in her uterus or something like that i dont really remember or care well enough. But i do know shes used that many times to try and like guilt people who offer advice or garner sympathy as a 'struggling' cosplayer. One of her convlogs is like 13 mins of her and beth just whining about illnesses and lathering fake positivity which their fans loved.
Which is funny because she was claiming to be all about Marvel because of some feminist shit about DC or something. But yeah, I remember she put that up on eBay. She also have advice to someone about materials for their own batgirl cowl, which is funny because she admitted to buying hers.
It's pretty telling that she's only friends with Beth and her new girlfriend. Everyone else won't have anything to do with her
From what you can see her new gf is just as egotistical as she is which is hilarious because her craftsmanship is pretty terrible.
I remember Nina making a big deal about that batgirl costume and she even bitched someone out in a comment on facebook i think? For calling her the wrong character in his compliment. Id have to look for it but it was pretty much like "nice x cosplay!" And she chewed him out.
She finally sold it because its too small for her. She basically wears childs clothing now because shes shrunk down to barely there proportions. Beth also had a new instagram all about her fitness lately that she floods with messages of being your best self and being strong, etc. Etc. Which is hilariously ironic considering what a judgement asshole she is 95% of the time. I remember someone on her tumblr asking her if shes gained weight and she went off on them. Both of them are very big about getting offended and bitching ppl out when they mention their weight, illnesses, bad habits and then a fan tries to offer advice.
And the thing is, with mango at least, whenever someone is concerned about her weight, she always gives the response "I'm healthy!" or "That's between me and my doctor!" I don't see how being like 10 pounds underweight and having a lot of food intolerances is healthy.
Also, I remember one time on her tumblr she went off on someone who said "It's nice to see a popular cosplayer with disabilities and chronic health issues!" She said that she doesn't really have any disabilities, but if you ask me, only being able to eat like 2 food groups would be pretty disabling.
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I think a lot of her intolerances can be attributed to her shit paleo diet and imagination. For example, if she hasn't had milk in over a year then suddenly drinks some in her coffee and gets a stomach ache she will instantly blame her 'milk intolerance' over the fact its just foreign to her body. Theres no way she can be as healthy as she claims she is. On top of that she rarely sleeps or sleeps poor/odd hours and only goes outside to buy materials or for cons so who even knows her actual quality.
Attached a photo of a recent tweet about her oh-so special secret cosplay. She mentioned it was a custom design and I really wish someone on her patreon would just leak it to burst her bubble because i've never seen something as dumb as this. If its one of her designs/drawings its probably pretty basic just like her mimikyu was lol
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I thought this was pretty funny. Hatters tweet from 1.29 amd ninas instagram story from today 2.6 proof that ninas actions and words really arent as original as she thinks and yet she bullied for her personality being 'copied'
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Since the topic of makeup has been brought up before, let's talk about the sloppy execution of this look.
Also, girl needs to find better poses.
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This is her go-to pose. This steep angle or peace sign on her face to hide some of that chin. Her makeup here is terrible and the fact she keeps calling this genderbent sugamama really pains me for some reason.
Like her highly filtered pics make you really think shes cute. Then you see her tagged photos and realize she over exposes herself on video for a reason.
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Wow its such a good thing patreon exists and people can pay you monthly for such innovative and quality tutorials. Keep bringing that original content mango
I'm pretty sure she started as a construction major. Even in the first semester of that kind of major, they beat the construction thing into your brain.
But her marketing background definitely affects her attitude towards everything honestly. She doesn't seem to do much that doesn't make her money or get something for free. I remember when she first started guesting at cons and it seemed to flip a switch in her head, and all of a sudden she changed from "MCM London is one of my dream cons!" to "I'll only go to cons outside my area if I'm invited as a guest."
I agree with this. She went from having convention goals to 'only if they pay me'. And she tries to say its because she wants to do more on location shoots with her friends but one of her patreon tiers is a location shoot one for her +1 of her friends. So basically her fans are paying for Night Eyes or another shit friend to also get to go on a location shoot, because thats exactly what they want to see.
She treats her patreon goals like 1 time payments. If you give me 6K a month (lol what the fuck) ill do location shoots! But then she gives 1 location shoot despite still getting 3K a month. Just like someone mentioned with the cooking videos. It requires her to get like 2K a month to make cooking videos, and yet shes only made two of them. These 'goals' should be a monthly type of extra reward she offers. Something her fans can benefit from. Not, give me this consistent amount of money each month and you will get 1 video or 1 picture set every 3-4 months when i feel like it.
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Heres what I dont understand about her patreon. I know she makes money via her youtube and is a twitch partner but the majority of her income has to come from patreon. So why have a comment like this when its clearly untrue? Your patreon is funding your costumes, conventions, and moving fund with your girlfriend. At least own up to it.
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The lady/site that embroidered ninas ripoff patches is now selling the stolen designs.
If she doesnt give some kind of credit for inspiration someone really needs to call her out considering how she went after that mimikyuu girl for literally the exact same thing.>>247777
This isn't cool either. If she took that girls vectors, had this shop make them for her, and neither she or the shop have given the girl credit or compensation that has to be some kind of theft right?
And she thinks it's a good idea to wear bikini armor to Katsucon instead of Colossalcon, especially after last year with the fire alarm fiasco. I know she's cut back on cons to move in with her one true love, but that's just stupid. Don't make new cosplays.
Can't wait for when she gets called out on both the cosplay and patches and she tries to defend herself like every other shady cosplayer.
She complained so much about that fire drill giving her a panic attack becauae it was so cold and she was in a next to nothing costume. Apparently it made her cry and i just cant imagine how stupid she must have looked while everyone is trying to evacuate outsidr and shes standing around crying like a snowflake lol. Guess she didnt learn because shell takr another skimpy costume to a con known for snow.
Once she posts actual pictures of her prompto and rapidash if no one says anything i will make a tumblr to bring it up because it isnt okay to go after others and then do the same thing herself.
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Why is one of the more toxic people in the cosplay community trying to give veiled advice? Like you just bullied people less than a couple weeks ago???
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On her health issues. I find if hilarious she's promoting getting a full night sleep at cons considering she never does. It's like when she said she was "too old and jaded" to do con crunch again, and here she is a year later right back at it.
Also, flyer cancer dysplasia may or may not be cancerous. It just means she has an abnormal amount of cells seems under a microscope in tissue. They may or may not be actual cancer or lead to it.
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Also why I was in there she had a post about blackfacing or just cosplaying a character from another race in general.
Gee Nina, I wonder why you're suddenly being asked about this.
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Looks like she actively chose not to wear pants with that mermaid blanket pic because she just posted this. I feel like the wig either just looks bad on her or needs to be brushed or something its not sitting right.
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Would she be saying this if she knew about this thread though? Lol. Sorry you cant understand the actual sarcasm behind the term of 'special snowflake'. Its like it went completely over her head.
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Lettele's armor is such a shit show. She goes on about how she's such a pro she can tell everyone their Noctis wig sucks, but she slaps together this steaming pile.
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Lettelle has very little skill tbh. Just from the painting on her link hat which you can see in the photo i attached it's like she barely even tried. The fact that Mango is so judgemental towards other cosplayers just makes it hilarious that she's willing to couple cosplay with someone at Lettelles level. If you look at her previous Syaoran cosplay as well you can see more very lazy painting. Link deserves better.
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Because this was necessary on her cosplay insta. She also did the same thing on her Black Friday video and acted all oh noes about it.
Yeah. I get aerie shit but I don't brag
about it on the internet. This post is really out of left field, esp because I definitely remember and instance where she got underwear or something like that and specifically did not show it.
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Shell probably just do topless, from the back, prompto x noctis with Lettelle. This just shows she tries to make her channel and streaming "PG" and has her mods enforce it but shes going down the path of of cosplayers who call skimpy armor and gluing things to a bra cosplay.
The meaning behind it is pretty normal, but that is shit wording. Works well with >>248574
Chat is not for posting personal problems. That's because she needs all the attention on hers.
I really wish her stream would crash and burn. She's so boring to watch and everyone is so cringe.
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Just a couple more days and we'll get to see their super special secret armor projects! AKA more of Lettelle's horrible paint and craft work >>249368
and Nina's gladzy knockoff bikini armor pokemon >>247783
. I also had to share this tweet because it's just a whole new level of special #relationshipgoals
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A six month long distance relationship with barely seeing each other is goals. This weekend is going to be a cringe fest on their social media.
Its that massive chin of hers, see >>238357
>>246695 if she cant shoop it out she has to cover it with a shit peace sign. Lettelle is just as bad, every single one of her selfies has like the maximum amount of blur or overexposure possible.
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The fact Simplicity hired her is just a slap in the face to other cosplayers. Yaya Han, an actual skilled pattern drafting cosplayer who has moutains of knowledge works for Mccalls and Simplicity hires a cosplayer thats average at best. There are so many more talented cosplayers who go above and beyond with their designs and original work that would have been a better fit but instead they go with this drama queen who can really only draft the basics.>>252815
That group fell apart. Jillian left first, we assume due to Beth's shitty attitude and hatefull personality (and Nina was turning in to a shit just like Beth). I recall Beth being an asshole to Jillian on twitter when she was asking for space, and while Jillian's twitter was private Beth's was public so all her little fans could the drama (vs. using her private twitter). As for Basker she broke off from Beth as well, i think she still kind of talks to Nina but probably not much as they no longer have them linked on their tumblrs.
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oh god don't remind me. I wonder what the fuck was going on in Shikarius's fuckin head to have as much skill as her to put up with kind of shitty mess.
"Youre welcome Love Live cosplayers <3"
This backhanded shit. She has talked shit about the over saturation of Love Live cosplays in the past and even went as far as to include them in her dumb scavanger hunt video because in her opinion theyre literally everywhere. For someone who was hating on it this comment is so unnecessary to me. Shes such a lowkey bitch
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First look at her Shriek costume.
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Perfect costume for her tbh. Now she wont have to photoshop her face to hell and back or do her signature peace sign to cover her jaw lol.
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Idk what hurts more the terrible armor, the terrible paint on the hat or her dry cracking lips
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There isnt enough help in the world lettelle. Sorry about it. Im just surprised egotistical mango doesnt help her improve.
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She's definitely still going to attempt to photoshop, but here's one straight from the photogs page.
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She looks so disproportionate here. Like her arms are three inches thick but her head is a basketball.
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Ninas makeup skills are pretty bad as well though so i guess theyre a good match.
speaking of which what ever happened between courtoon and nina? i knos she still hangs out with grayson or used to (and what about that asian girl who used to cosplay sailor mars???? hello???)
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She looks strung out here lol
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Guess who's joining in on bedroom photoshoots!
She looks nothing like Prompto. Her jaw triggers
Theyre from her black friday video so she bought them somewhere.
Beth prides herself as some kind of cosplay makeup guru but she is so damn messy all the time.
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Well heres that super secret armor of theirs. The amount of blur on ninas photo is hilarious but i give with 0 breast wearing a breastplate just looks terrible, like its just hanging there. The design is awful from what we can see so far. Lettelle is a mess but what else is new.
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Adding on. Heres a better look at the horn. She really should have added some shading.
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Here's a pic where you can see most of the armor.
It's not /bad/ necessarily, it's made well and looks clean, but the design is super basic and there's hardly anything going on. It's boring and looks like babby's first clean armor build. She's been doing this for so long, but her costumes remain so simple. And you'd think with how much she's been hyping it up, there would be more going on.
Shes like best friends with the arda people, especially Malinda or whatever who works for Arda. I remember when she was friends with Basker they hung out at Arda's workshop and did a twitch stream styling wigs. So i wouldn't doubt if she gets some kind of discount of some sort. They also have her picture as the 'cosplay' clickable link photo on their website.>>254509
I agree. Shes been at this for years but she never really makes anything challenging. For a custom design I feel she could have done better. She did Panne from FE:A and that wasn't too bad and was more complex so her own original design could have been more impressive. I'm also really throw off by the red resin gems on the breastplate, theyre basically like red ruby nipples.
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it's literally on the website
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The leg armor looks really well done but the fucking black underwear is so distracting, I'm surprised she went so "skimpy" on this especially with how much of a prude she can be
Otherwise it doesn't really look like Rapidash unless being told so, she could've done so much more, especially with the wig and horn, cause from what I remember rapidash's horn was normal not a spiral unicorn type horn right??
But holy fuck lettels (sp?) arcanine was shit I couldn't even tell it was arcanine it's wild that mango is okay with em's less than subpar work
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You would be right. Rapidash has a normal horn, not a unicorn one.
I don't get the black panties either. She probably should have gone with white or cream colored ones. That way they wouldn't have stood out. Also find it funny how she couldn't pad herself out a little to fit the bust. She wouldn't have to do Tifa levels. Just a little something.
Also, her upper arms are getting terrifying.
You beat me to the photo lol. You woukd think if she is such a pokemon fan and nazi over her originality she would at least get the damn horn right. This swirled uniforn horn with no shading looks terrible. Armor like this best suits a body with a shape and her board straight frame doesnt work here. She will pad boobs and ass for moa and tifa but cant be bothered for her super special design.>>254797
Nina probably doesnt care that em is shit at craftsmanship because its true love
. The least she could do is help her a bit. That scar makeup looked horrible.
I have to admit I love the little hooves.
Also being in the itty-bitty tittie committee I have to say that with my own boob armor cosplay, like no amount of stuffing seems to make a difference.
I don't think it's fair to judge something she can't really do anything about. Just her crappy personality.
Agreeing with >>253996
Also why would Arcanine wield an axe? Lettelle could made claw gauntlets or smth
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The entire group is pretty terrible. None of these designs make sense for their pokemon. Mango designed them all and i see from a previous post you can get one of these designs for only $100/mo. What a steal!
Actually Sirene didn't design Missyeru's costume. You'll notice she doesn't do any crediting at all back to Sirene unlike all the other girls and her costume has the most depth out of all of them.
She probably didn't like Sirene's shitty design.
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I think we got lucky. The self proclaimed grandparents (who are like 24) were too tired for a yaoi shoot. Cant guarantee they didnt do any pics but maybe we wont have to see her underfed form trying to be sexy lol
Pyroar and Typhlosion are so ridiculously bad. They don't even follow their pokemons color schemes or themes, wtf.
Typhlosion looks like Big Bird cosplaying a pirate that's cosplaying gypsy wench. Why would you use feathers? It makes no sense. Such terrible designs.
It reminds of the whole graphic design is passion meme
Like seriously mango prides herself on being original and sooooooo creative but these ginjinka were shit
Holy fuck nigris were at least somewhat discernible and that's saying a lot and I dislike nigri
Idk something about mango being lettle is fishy to me tbh… like it almost seems fake but then again it's her one true love so who knows
The big issue for me about this girl is she cries about her original ideas/designs being stolen left and right. Whether its pokemon ginjinka like the mimikyuu or her youtube stuff. But if you look at anything she does its all the most basic of basics. She tries to lay claim to things like a dress with a hood or thumbnails with a white banner when those are things 100 other people have probably used or will use in the future. Its insane how creative she thinks she is when nothing she makes is new to the scene.
As for her and Lettelle, I have nothing to add that hasn't already been said in this thread other than I dont really see it lasting. LDR are one thing, hanging out for 3-4 days every few months at a con dont give you much to go on in terms of what you'll hate once you live together. Habits, pet peeves, etc will be a big shock for them.
Yeah I agree. 6 months isn't even a long being together. Especially when they only see each other every other time. I don't know if it's just me because I have been in a relationship with my boyfriend for 2 years now but the fact that Mango and Lettelle are calling each other true love and already making plans of moving in together this quickly into the relationship is a pretty bad move. I don't think these two understand what an actual LDR is like and almost every couple goes through LDR which usually is a hit or miss in relationships.
Kinda can't wait to see it end and then see who Mango's next "True love" is going to be.
iirc she went to school for fashion marketing, not design.
The designs are still awful, though. Her talents definitely don't lie in designing costumes.
I have to wonder if this is only her second relationship and that's why she's go into this one. I also have to wonder if she's really bi or of she's just jumping on the bandwagon like a bunch of other female cosplayers. Seems like everyone is bi in the community.
With Em, I can't help but feel this is her trying to move up in the community. Her Katsu instagram pictures are almost all her with Nina. Nina's into her because it's her first same sex relationship and Em was the first to cater to her. I always thought she and Beth were a thing though.
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Jfc no ones arm should look like this.
Yeah that's what I'm wondering too cause it's so weird to me that all of a sudden she's dating someone of the same sex, like idk if she's ever spoke about being bi or possibly interested in girls but their whole relationship strikes me as strange and oh god seriously it's so annoying and being in the cos comm almost everyone thinks they're gay af idk I feel like people reinforce the stereotype of being gay or bi is a choice sage for personal rant I guess>>255472
Okay this pic was tripping me out for a bit cause I thought she had four fingers for a second but holy shit is she thin
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What is this even? She designed herself a costume she cant even walk in? She has gone on many rants before about people not trying to talk to her during x, x, or x circumstances but yet wants people to believe shes open for her fans to approach her? Coupled with the comments in this thread on in 4chan archive about her being a bitch to people who tried to say hi its confusing how others havent caught on that shes not who she pretends to be.
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I found it because I have no life.
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Thank you! The further back you go, she's got some really good stuff. The occasional slap at social justice crusaders and such. Lots of bitching about everything. These are some of my favorites.
She also used to talk about getting pumpkin spice lattes and eating bread sticks from Olive Garden, ya know, the stuff she's deathly allergic to. Other interesting stuff, back in Oct 2011, she was followng /cgl. Apparently Courtoon's number was leaking on there. She was taking about how sad everyone was. I wouldn't doubt she knows about this thread and says nothing about it.
Her vocabulary is a nightmare. Its just gotten progressively worse. From using terms like 'dericious' to mock weeabos to now using terms like leggies, feetsies etc its absolutely annoying.
Her having contact with problematic
flogged is hilarious, the publicly nasty cosplayers stick together I guess. I'm sure if you continue digging theres an endless supply of her bullying people for cosplay reasons and youtube, a lot of it escapes me now but it felt like it was almost a daily thing for her to be hating on someone else.
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Sorry for the bad screen shot. WHY WOULD YOU FILM THIS CLOSE UP
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> custom dyes silk
> hand embroiders emblem
Wears cheapass walmart shoes with a bit of gold paint on them.
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Oh no Missyeru made a Mimikyu hoodie better go subtweet and send all of my friends after her.
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The top is so ill fitting it's killing me. I had to go back and look at the fanart this is based on and it looks like the top is supposed to be skin tight.I'm not really impressed with this one.
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Seeing this other Arcanine cosplay from Katsucon just really solidifies 1. how terrible this design was, and 2. how horrible lettelles craftsmanship is
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Why is she like this? You're a millennial who manages to do photography (kinda), videography and then some yet you label yourself as a 'cosmom' or 'grandma' and complain about that super difficult selfie stick?? I just.. i dont know.
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Using her cosplay handle to try and correct someone she doesnt even know on a post that isnt hers or even about her.
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Samefag, adding her next response. That condescending :3 though. News flash nina you do not get to control what people say and its not your place to shame them or call them out.
To promote "promote" positive commenting to cosplay; i.e: ass-kissing. No one is allowed to point out a major flaw because it's mean
Also to score those POC points. Gotta be a white savior!
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Lol she is so petty. She didnt need to involve herself in this or even look for replies which she had to do to see this as she isn't @'d
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She really brings down the overall look of this group, and im sure the final picture results. Putting someone that looks like her in between two fairly cute girls is just wrong.
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Her girlfriend isnt any better looking imo.
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And here we go! I know this is Nina's thread but I can't help it.
Yeah I think Emily is pretty cute when she does make herself look presentable
And I think Nina has downgraded herself physically and mentally ever since she became so close to Beth
Nina used to be cute even with her nose and teeth when she was still with IMT and co but holy shit the major weight loss and ana body type does her body no favors, especially since she's so shapeless
Also ems noct makeup looks like she was beaten up before hand and couldn't conceal the bruises, why did they make them look so like fucking druggies
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Further proof that Lettle is the weakest in this group and wouldn't have been there if she weren't dating Nina.
>>261035> Life with Mango> Official launch
what is this some kind of netflix show? Why even share it if it has a 'launch' date. The minute she sticks ads on the videos itll be clear that her, 2nd channel for casual fun mango time, will just be another veiled source of income from the people who are dumb enough to watch whatever 'normal' vlogs she plans to do.
If its anything like her bff Beths channel were in for a real snooze fest because I watched one of Beths vlogs and it was just a lot of her whining, daily meals, and random shots in a poor attempt to be interesting.
I don't understand how she'll have any content for this channel. She works sooooo hard that she barely has free time, and that's boring to watch. Plus she is saving her money to move in with her gf, so it's not like she'll be wanting to spend money going to anyplace interesting.
I bet this channel is just because she'll have no cosplay content because Katsucon is over and she's only been invited to one other con as a guest. There's no good profitable reason to make new cosplay.
Also I'd bet this channel going to be about the wacky adventures of her and Beth until she moves, and then it'll be her and Emily against the world, trying to be cute and quirky cosplay moms while facing hardships in a heteronormitive world.
It should be a good watch when they inevitability break up and Emily moves on to more famous female cosplayer, and Beth no longer has Nina's coattails do ride on.
She is a guest fo ASTL but it doesnt really count as that con keeps her on retainer because shes friends with the coordinators. Quite frankly she wouldn't be a cosplayer id ever bring as a guest to a con because her panel topics arent suitable for most crowds. Last i saw she does a fitness panel, but im sure she doesnt tell people to just skip meals and drink tons of coffee like she does, a panel about making your own cosplay brand ans then she and beth do an 18+ where they talk about yaoi and drink wine.
No beginner cosplay panels to teach tricks or anything which is her entire 'brand'.
If this new channel is going to just be more of the challenge videos shes already done, and vlogs like her black friday video she stuck claim to and bullied a youtuber over, i doubt itll be that entertaining.
Beth can even put out 1 video a month because shes so damn boring so i cant imagine Nina who works sooo many jobs and never sleeps because shes so busy will be able to keep up.
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I havent watched the video but i noticed she tends to think lens flares and color spots =/= artistic unique content. Her trailer for the con vlogs, which was clearly a space filler for her lack of actual content, was enough to give someone motion sickness. The film reel like transition and all the bokeh overlays were clearly used to spice up lackluster filming on her end.
I saw this on her twitter today. Shes told people a couple of times to come to her for branding help. She is not only completely delusional about how unique her style and graphics acutally are (spoiler: theyre not). And she has been a bully in the past over branding as seen in this thread. Overall shes a pretty awful person parading as a unique snowflake of positivity.
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Well she wasn't lying when she said it was a mess. I'm not one to judge how clean someone is, but her family must be so patient to put up with this…
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She put up another. I think shes going to slowly post them in an order where it's like shes undressing bit by bit but… why???? Im pretty sure nobody wants this.
Gross, it's surprising that she can make anything in that environment, let alone alone it to exist.>>262378
She looks like an old basketball mom who just got into cosplay.
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Probably just a white knight. None of the girls tweeted about it and you know they would need to gain all the attention they could from being victims lol.>>263022
Looks like beths new thumbnail designs are pretty closely copied from ninas. The top colorful banner, the square slightly tilted photo and the blurry bg. Just looks like beth made hers in some cheap program like MS Paint lol.
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Her newest twitch donation goal is 15,000$ to move with Lettelle to Chicago. She asks for this money while doing a twitch stream to plan her new cosplays.
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Her family is just so inconsiderate of her streaming schedule no wonder she needs to move end sarcasm
Because her fans have to help support Emily until she has a job. What is she doing anyway to help? Is she saving? Why do I get the feeling Nina is planning and paying for everything and Emily is going to take advantage of it?
Has Emily mentioned the move on any social media?
This is all true, but they're in basically a safety net of a financial situation. Who knows how much they actually have saved up on-top of their regular gigs. They can actually afford to take risks.
I doubt they mean to find a home for $15,000, that's likely either a down payment or just shooting high to get good rent money. Chicago is live-able for 2 people in a nice apartment, vs LA or NYC where'd you have to still live with other people or in mediocre neighborhoods to afford it.
Nina mentioned previously that her work was mostly based out of Chicago. But shes only traveled there for Arda related stuff so I cant really imagine its the real reason they chose that location.>>264093
Theyre in a safety net of mom and dad right now. If they had enough saved up they wouldnt set a 15K donation goal for twitch followers. After xmas someone asked nina if she had gotten a lot of donations and she mentioned having gotten enough to rent a moving truck for 1 hour. So unless they magically saved up a whole bunch of money since then with all the more expensive cosplaying (worbla & thibra orders, silk, custom embroidered patch sets, etc) theyve done + the costs of con travels, spending money, hotel, etc. then theyre basically banking on the generosity of Nina's followers to pay a large portion of the moving costs.
She got a large sum for a custom gaming PC specifically to stream gaming but she has yet to buy it. And as a MAC user for her to build a PC from scratch all of a sudden is very sketchy.
Not one thing her twitch donations have been for has actually been purchased. It brings up the patreon drama of her not knowing how goals work. Goals are like - if i get x amount a month i will be able to supply patrons with x reward.
Instead she treats them, not like monthly payments, but 1 time payments with goals like - if i get x amount ill buy myself a dslr stabilizer. If i get x amount ill get to support me and a friend doing location shoots. Like your patrons arent here to fund your friends free ride.
In addition she hasnt kept up with her goal rewards. One was for more cos appetit videos which she needed like 1k for due to 'equipment' as if her parents dont have a fully stocked kitchen. And shes only made like 2 in the last 5 or 6 months, good thing ppl are paying her 1k a month for videos she never makes. Meet the cosplayers was a goal as well but when the first video she did didnt get enough views (aka $) she stopped making them despite it being a goal.
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This looks so horrifying lmao
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She cant hide behind overexposure and filters forever
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Guess who changed their big moving fund to $5000 on twitch?
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I'm glad she fessed up and admitted she set past broadcasts to subs on purpose. Girl has definitely been shown this thread.
She said she reached her DSLR stabilizer goal two weeks ago. Lets see if she buys it like promised, or if it'll end up like the other goals she reached and didn't purchase.
Seriously?? Give more details if you can i didnt watch the stream.
Doesnt her first video come out on the new channel today?
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Yeah with the patreon updates and her talking about her weight its clear she saw the thread. Why on earth would she be buying new furniture if they need donations to even make the move?
Also, theres a trailer on her new channel and its edited like some kind of low budget indie show with 50 shades of grey music and panning shots theme lol.
She didn't get into detail, but someone asked if she lived on her own and she said something along the lines of:
"No, I live at home with my WONDERFUL…parents….overdramatic pause
No, they aren't wonderful….."
And then later on, she mentions how her mom asked "I noticed you haven't played many video games since your Katsucon convention.. why is that?"
Idk about anyone else, but from that statement alone it sounds like her mom is actually quite caring. My mom is a precious cinnamon roll but she was never involved enough in my weeb activities to know the NAME of the convention I was going to. Granted Her mom may not have said that verbatim, but still, her mom noticed she wasn't relaxing etc and inquired. ~*so abusive*~
Yeah I absolutely remember the dad stepping in when she was having an emotional breakdown over her Owari no Seraph sword for Katsucon 2016. So absuive. So hateful.
I mean, her parents even agreed to be in one of her videos. That is a lot of involvement. Shit, my parents didn't go to my orchestra concerts or parent teacher conferences in HS. I guess my parents are literally Satan then.
she's lying, i knew her when we were like 16 and she was chubbyish. not fat, but had baby fat and was normal.
all the 'food intolerances' came when she started cosplaying and developed an ED.
Hey, everyone! I know it's not really kosher to reply to anonymous threads about yourself, but considering this is starting to get super off-the-rails in terms of extrapolation and making stuff up (especially about my parents), there are a few things I want to clarify.
Firstly: I do want to say thank you for this thread. A lot of it was very eye-opening in terms of how my actions were coming across and being construed. I'm very sorry for that, and in the future, I'll improve upon that behavior.
You guys have already seen that I updated the outdated info on Patreon (which I had completely neglected amidst fulfilling rewards and creating content, so seriously, thank you for that). I've also made it a point to emphasize that if anyone is ever, ever curious about where their money is going or how it's being used, please just ask for clarification. I haven't been spending donation money or putting it towards other costs, but if me holding off on purchases until it was more convenient in terms of timing/storage was construed as such, then I should have worked harder to be more transparent about why I was postponing those purchases.
I know I've been very reactionary and defensive this past year, especially in terms of ~*copying*~, both in terms of costumes and YouTube stuff. I never intended to bully anyone, but if that’s how it read, I am truly sorry. I will be better about my reactions and try not to jump to conclusions about another person’s intentions. I’ve always been stupidly sensitive about this (even as far back as first grade when I got upset over someone copying my jungle diorama lmao), and it’s something I actively need to work on. I apologize to anyone I’ve hurt or disappointed by vague-tweeting when I was upset. Please understand: it’s never been from a place of ego or thinking I’m ~*incredible*~ at what I do; it’s usually quite the opposite. I think my thumbnails are the ugliest damn things, and if I get frustrated seeing people copying them, it’s because I want them to do better than me and succeed with their own style. I also don’t want them to be harassed; which sometimes I’ve inadvertently caused by tweeting while upset. Moving forward, I will work hard to be more mature about this. (Again, this is something I'm grateful to this thread for; looking at it from an outside perspective, yeah, I seem absolutely batshit crazy.)
I know I’ve lost quite a bit of weight. It’s not due to an ED or happening intentionally. I have a month of testing at U of M coming up to figure out why I’ve had so much trouble gaining it back despite adamantly trying (eating 1,800 calories a day, stopping cardio, focusing on weight-lifting to rebuild muscle). Right now, the specialist there thinks it’s latent food intolerances from both sides of my family that have surfaced in the past two years due to eating such a clean diet, coupled with anxiety triggering
an already-sensitive digestive system. Nothing serious like stomach cancer or thyroid or issues w/ pancreas; cervical cancer cells had cleared up as of last May and haven’t returned. (And yes, as I mentioned on stream: I was really happy with my body a few months ago when I was still at a healthy weight! Absolutely. Then the weight loss kept going past that. And hasn't stopped. So that's why I'm going through all this testing to get to the bottom of it. Because where I'm at now is not
a healthy weight and I'd like to figure out the medical reasoning as to why I can't eat a goddamn apple anymore.)
In lieu of the above, this is why I can get very defensive about getting health advice or recommendations from strangers on the internet. I have doctors who know my full history and I’m trusting them to figure stuff out. I do appreciate it when people try to offer suggestions! But sometimes it’s tiring because I’ve already been over it with the medical professionals, so I apologize for getting snippy on Twitter to those who made a good-hearted suggestion. If I’ve snapped over it, it’s because I’m frustrated with the situation in general, not with anyone for offering advice. I do appreciate the thought; it’s just the fact that my health is a daily struggle that frustrates me.
My parents are not abusive. They’re extremely supportive of me and this wild direction my career has taken me. Yes, sometimes we clash over silly things (as most parents and children do), and when I was younger, sometimes I’d rant about it on Tumblr (as most high schoolers and college kids do). And while I’m admittedly nervous about them supporting my romantic future, I am still utterly and overwhelmingly grateful for everything they’ve done for me that’s allowed me to reach this point in my life. I love them with all my heart. If you guys want to extrapolate my pauses and speech patterns as me thinking they're abusive, that's your choice, but no. My parents are wonderful people and I am utterly grateful for everything they've done for me.
Despite popular belief, I have one cup of coffee a day in the afternoon. Otherwise, the only caffeine I consume is a cup of chai tea in the morning. I love coffee, absolutely! A lot of people love it. But no matter how much I talk about it (which is absolutely excessive, I fully admit that), I do understand moderation.
Back when I was younger, I was absolutely an elitist bitch about cosplay. This mentality was a result of spending too much time on 4chan and negative communities on LiveJournal. I got really roped up in those toxic mentalities and let it affect how I approached the hobby. During college, I made the decision to avoid those areas of the internet, and as a result I was able to find new enjoyment in the hobby and the relationships I had within it. I also found the confidence to start challenging my skills instead of being too afraid of ending up in a “Bad Cosplay” thread; and yeah, not every project is a success. I totally mess up on stuff and hate how things turn out. But I'd like to think I've made progress from who I was back then when I got upset over others' cosplay due to the toxic sites, people, and attitudes I surrounded myself with.
When vectoring my Prompto patches, I used this post as a reference for both the designs and placement: http://hitorishin.tumblr.com/post/150542830873/
I did change a few details and, yes, I had to re-vector it all from scratch to be properly sized for my own proportions and the scale of my vest, but Hitorishin’s post was what I started with! I mentioned and linked it in the stream when we were working on the vest, but forgot to do so on my InstaStory when I posted a shot of the embroidered patches. That was absolutely my mistake; thank you for pointing it out.
Things are gucci with Jinx and Hatter. I'm looking forward to getting to know both of them better and there are no hard feelings between any of us.
That's all I can think of! Thank you for reading, and again, if there’s anything you want to talk about further, please just ask. I'm happy to chat about it!
lol you are so fake
any doctor would tell you that 1800 calories is not enough to gain weight idiot. that's why i don't believe you're receiving medical treatment, or, if you are, it's not nearly as much as you're implying
you are FULL OF SHIT everywhere except literally since you hardly eat lmao
Hate to break it to you but nothing in this thread was made up or pulled from thin air. You yourself have bad mouthed your home and home environment/parents on social media, we didnt imagine that.
And dont get me started on the copying drama. You straight up bullied and harassed the two people weve mentioned here but who knows how many others your snowflake ego has gotten to. You knowingly tweeted about them and gave out their usernames to anyone who would ask you for it. You let your trashy friend Beth and others say some pretty shit things about people and you really want us to believe just this thread alone has helped you realize your wrong doings? I mean I was a casual follower back in the day and even I remember you harassing that other youtuber for like over a year now.
Pretty much seems like youre just trying to do image damage control but you arent actually sorry. You havent even made a public apology even hinting to your followers that you people you complained about all this time are now "gucci" with you so theyre going to keep looking at them as the copies you made them out to be.
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It took me 5 minutes in your tumblr archive to find stuff going back all the way to 2015. Some of the most recent being from just this past december. So basically 2 years youve bullied the other youtube and let people go after them but we're supposed to believe you had a sudden realization to be better? But like the previous post said you havent made any sort of public apology, just this post full of excuses for your awful behavior.
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Adding this one. Sorry for the samefag and big file but tell us some more lies Nina. This is just from this past december when you forced the other channel in to a break with your immaturity and self-centered egotistical nature. To accuse someone of copying your SPEECH PATTERNS? you have got to be on some kind of special drugs for all those intolerances you have to think that ever made any sense. And the fact you were going on about legal action was just a whole new level of shit. You participated in this bullying and harassment of someone you dont even know so you cant possibly expect to give excuses and shirk the blame.
I was 155 when I was sixteen, and on a 5'5" frame, that wasn't a healthy weight for me. Again, as I mentioned in the stream, I had no stamina, no muscular strength, no energy. I may have looked "normal" but I was not healthy. (Food intolerances are also things that can develop over time, especially with age. Yeah, once upon a time I could eat Taco Bell. Not so much anymore. I would love to eat Taco Bell again some day and am hoping to work towards that once I can digest it. :D)>>265668
Those were Twitch donations, not patron-supported. Serger has been ordered and will be arriving next week! Custom PC parts will be ordered before the end of the month; as I've mentioned, I wanted to wait until the craft room was cleaned out before ordering it so I had space to set it up.>>265718
Yep, 1800 ain't enough. But right now the goal is figuring out what's causing the intolerances so I can reintroduce more variety of food to my diet and make it easier to aim for 2000 calories a day. It's not going to happen overnight, especially since the testing itself is happening over the course of a month. (I'm getting an abdominal ultrasound, hydrogen tests for fructose and sucrose, plus a stomach scope. Huzzah!)>>265721
I never said it was imagined that I badmouthed them, but I've never made the claim they were/are abusive. I've only seen such an accusation mentioned in this thread. Like I said, we have arguments like any parent/child relationship entails. In the past I've been bad about posting reactionary things on social media. I thought nothing of it because for me it was a "heat of the moment" thing, but I should've been more aware to think that it could cause such a negative impression of my home life. And I truly do apologize for that. Because they are anything
but abusive, I'm unbelievably fortunate to have such amazing parents and I'm thankful for it every damn day that I wake up to a roof over my head.>>265742>>265748
I'm not shirking the responsibility. It was my fault, no matter what my reasoning or (lack of) logic was. I do maintain that I never shared usernames publicly, but yes, it was still all-to-easy for people to figure out who I was speaking about. And I should've been more cognitive of that; just because I wasn't naming names, I should've realized that other people can, you know, put 2 and 2 together. That was all on me. I've apologized to both parties and I'm going to clean up all those old posts to remove anything that casts them in a bad light, because those situations were entirely my fault and it was wrong of me. (I did not say the bullying/etc. was not recent. I'm very aware it was recent. But yes, the realization of it actually being bullying? Happened when I saw this thread. So again: thank you guys for that. I mean it sincerely. I couldn't see those situations for what they were and this thread helped me do so. That's not who I want to be, that's not behavior I want to encourage or perpetuate.)
Again: I am not trying to make excuses, just provide explanations. I know the majority of you will hate me no matter what I do, and that's fine! But I've provided these statements to give you my perspective and something to go on rather than a lot of the assumptions and extrapolations in this thread, especially when it comes to my home life and use of finances. I will be working to rectify my behavior and make more public changes (and, yes, an apology).
I'll step out of this thread now, but please, if there's ever anything you want to talk about directly, person to person, I am happy to do so.
And once more: thank you for the wake up call. I definitely needed it, and while I don't necessarily agree with the methods of sites like this, sometimes what you guys do is needed, no matter how much the snowflake doesn't want to admit it. But this is me admitting it, and using this opportunity to do better from here on out. Because the person in this thread is not who I ever wanted to be, and I didn't realize it was how I was acting until you guys pointed it out. So yes, it's hard to read this stuff, but we all need a reality check now and then. And I definitely did.
It isn't just that people could figure it out. I blatantly saw a popular cosplayer (the chick married to that YouTube guy Jared or whoever idk. Heidi?) ask you who it was, and you replied "I'll DM you!" This is almost worse, because then your cosfamous goonies go immediately to the poor souls page and lambast them.
Also, do yourself a favor and stop spending time with Beth, because she is only going to drag you down. You think you can escape toxic behavior when you surround yourself with it? Think again.
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Here you go.
You dont want witch hunts yet your lackey mikey & byndo made comments on her black friday video and then you have this tweet where you were obviously giving out the username YOURSELF. Also, PLEASE explain this facebook post to us. Clearly you made it on your personal facebook page as a call out because what else could this mean?
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Sorry for all the post guys. I kind of got on a roll digging. Since Nina plans on deleting the posts as if it never happened so she doesnt have to be accountable ive been going through it more in depth.
So! To add to my previous posts >>265777>>265758
We cant forget Nina's trashy as hell friend Beth. I remembered these tweets but it only took a minute to find them. This level of battery is pure hate and I cant imagine the kind of messages the channel got before taking down the black friday and gingerbread videos.
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Your followers, fueled by your hate and immaturity thought it was funny to harass her. You fed it for years and who knows what kind of anon messages they got that we havent seen.
You dont deserve to be able to just delete your posts and pretend it didnt happen. You owe a public apology so all the little minions like this one KNOW its in the past and to leave them alone.
(Last post, I promise, just to finish addressing this situation.)
Please go ahead and save the screencaps! Absolutely. I posted them, they're there. I regret that they're things I said and did and encouraged. Doesn't mean they didn't happen. If I delete something, it's not to cover my ass, it's to prevent any further harassment of these individuals. Hell, I am saving these screencaps to remind myself of how I can get without realizing it. I can explain why I acted that way and why I didn't realize what I was doing, but it doesn't change that I did it. Intention or outside factors or other things I was dealing with, none of that changes what I did, so it's besides the fact. It happened, and that's on me.
I did mention usernames privately to friends when asking for advice on how to handle the situation; not sicc'ing them on anyone, but if they chose to be upset and/or do so on my behalf, I didn't discourage it. Again: it was handled poorly in every way. And I am not denying that. I should never have gone after them in the first place, nor should I have allowed my followers or friends to do so. I should have stepped in and put a stop to that; it was my responsibility and I didn't take care of it as I should have. It continued on for far, far too long and I'm deeply sorry for letting it happen.
As far as a public apology goes: I do want to make one, but I'll be discussing that with this Youtuber one-on-one. If they would like me to do so, it'll absolutely happen so we can clear all this up for everyone else as well. However, I want it to be their decision; if they don't want anymore attention drawn to the situation, that's their choice, and I want to respect them by not making that choice for them. The situation was my fault in the first place, and so it should be their decision of how they want to move forward. (I understand you feel they deserve that public apology, and I feel that way, too; but I don't want to put them in that public position unless they agree to it first.)
Okay! I'll be dipping out of your space now, I promise. I did just want to reiterate that this situation is being addressed, and that if anything is deleted, it's to protect the other parties, not myself. As you've seen, some of my followers can get very defensive/go into attack mode, and I don't want one of them stumbling across something months/years after the fact and going after someone who never deserved it in the first place. Because that would be my responsibility, too.
Again, I don't know how often it is that targets of /snow actually use these opportunities for positive personal changes, but I really do mean it when I say that's what I'm viewing this as. I want to be better. There are some things I can't fix (like my glass-cuttin' jaw or ugly wrists~), but a lot of the behavior outlined in this thread is stuff I need to work on and improve, especially in how sensitive I am to "copying" (i.e. perceiving it as a threat when it absolutely… totally… isn't smh), and being extremely clear about how money is being handled. I thought I was doing the latter, but didn't realize it wasn't clear to everyone else, so more than anything I'm incredibly grateful for that lesson, along with all the other lessons you guys have taught me.
I hope you have a good night and enjoy the rest of your week. And thank you again, sincerely.
I agree that you have been quite positive in addressing the problems and hopefully you'll fix what was clearly an issue.
Also, Beth clearly needs to be in on that apology (these caps are disgusting >>265780
) and with luck your want to improve and do right by the other parties will rub off on her. Otherwise i suggest dropping her because shes clearly a negative influence.
im glad that you didn't look at this thread and immediately brush it off as lies and slander. Some of it is definitely true but some of it does get kind of over the top. I have a feeling there's a few vendetta's in here trying to instigate some rumors.
Anyways agreeing with the other anon about Beth >>265849
, she seems like a terrible influence on you. We dont know what happened to cause your Team Trash group to split up, but there's a difference between cutting out toxic people and burning bridges. I highly doubt anything Julian ever could have done would be considered toxic or abusive. I'd be more wary of being close friends with someone who likes to delete people from their lives.
>>265812> I did just want to reiterate that this situation is being addressed, and that if anything is deleted, it's to protect the other parties, not myself.
Yeah, sure. While I do agree that your responses have been more mature than a bunch of other flakes and cows that have defended themselves in their respective threads, you're still offering empty apologies. Repeating "omg I know I've been so so bad, please do forgive me for I have repented for my sins!" over and over again sounds like you're trying to buy the easy way out. When your last drama was just a few month ago you don't do the "change of heart" act with syrupy statements like the one I quoted.
If you really experienced personal growth through this thread, then good for you, have a nice life. And if you're lying and dumb enough that you think people who monitor cows like you as a hobby will buy your sweet little "~I hope you have a good night uwu~" skit then that's fine too, more milk for us.
I'm just waiting to see if she actually posts the public apology or puts up credit for her prompto patches. Just because you put credit at the beginning of a twitch stream that NO one who isnt a sub can see after its over doesnt mean you dont need to put a public credit at least with your Prompto pics.
TBH I was planning to wait a few days then check her accounts for the things she said shed do now that shes ~*learned*~ from this thread how to suddenly be a better person.
Per the screencaps the anon put up earlier that kind of long-term behavior doesnt change overnight and i'd personally love to see what she said to Jinx and Hatter. I do find it hilarious though that she feels in 1 or 2 days everything can be "Gucci" with people she bullied so strongly and for so long.
Are you going to tell everyone you're lying about being poc too?
gurl you're white as fuck. I get you're trying to appeal to the tumblr crowd by being a ~poc lesbian~ but stop lying.
So judging by her twitter the last few days it pretty much seems like she has no intention of making good on what she said she'd do >>265812
has anyone reached out to either of the two girls she bullied to see if she apologized to them in some way? Because she definetely hasnt made a public one. Neither has Beth who, to me at least, said the worst shit in those screencaps. Nina was just bitching but Beth took it to a whole different level.
Nina also put up her first video on her new "life with mango" channel. Its just a nearly 20min vlog of her cleaning a craft room that looked like an absolute nightmare. I cant begin to understand how someone destroys not one, but two rooms (bedroom & craft room) to that degree. I've seen her streams before and 90% of the time her bedroom behind her is a war zone. Im also wondering how her parents never bothered to force her to clean it up with how it looked in the video, considering its their house you'd think she would have more respect for the spaces theyve given her.
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I had to post this because it's so funny. Glitter glue, really?
Also, Lettele posted on her instagram that she's moving darling summer. So I guess they decided on a date?
The golden accents on the dress are explained in the movie. And she mentioned something about them using embroidery and its like, as a 'professional' you should know the embroidery would weigh down the lightweight chiffon-like fabrics of the top layers and stunt the disney staple flowing of the dress while dancing. But i mean you are the expert Nina having made 2 Belle wigs and literally NONE of her costumes (or any ballgown for that matter).
As for the rest, it does seem like it was just nice words to try and make it seem like shes 'learned' how to be a good person from this thread. But we have no proof she even apologized to any of the girls she harassed so really it seems like she just plans on ignoring it and moving on.
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She tries so damn hard to be this cool lesbian internet mom and it just comes off so ignorant.
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Meanwhile she and her true love of several months are raging over some of Ninas videos getting flagged for content. But ofc it must be those SATANIC HETEROS and their AGENDA
Actually just reading about her talk about her gingerbread video makes me mad over that copying drama again because that other youtuber took down their gingerbread video because she acted like she invented the idea. It was ugly.
The youtube restriction thing is an absolute mess, but quite frankly the videos of hers that dont show up when filtered are crap ones anyway. Sorry Nina but watching you kiss your girlfriend 15 times to guess chapstick flavors is not only boring content but has absolutely no value (not even entertainment because both are less than average to watch).
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Why is Beth thinking of making a second channel when she cant even manage the first one? I get Nina wanted to separate cosplay tutorials and stuff from just day to day vlogs but Beth's channel isnt big enough or settled by topic enough to warrant her needing two channels. Back when I followed her on twitter (and even now from just checking) all she does is bitch about her crap software and crap laptop and blames it for never uploading.
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In her most recent, unnecessarily long get ready with me vid, she mentions wanting to talk more about fashion, makeup, and her ED. Mango must have shown her the comments here because she mentioned that people probably go to her channel for her 'cosplay persona', not her regular life stuff, so she wants to separate it (and make more boring content).
Thanks for the run down because no way I was going to sit and watch 20+ minutes of her dry and boring personality. Her makeup has never been good no matter what costume or everyday look shes going for. Quite literally its only because Nina pimped her as a cosplay makeup guru that anyone paid attention.
As for her ED. She binge eats. Im not belittling BED but she plays it up much larger than it needs to be. There are people in the cosplay community with actual real problems and disorders that dont need advice from someone who overeats and bitches people out. Looking at the screencaps of all the hateful stuff she said I dont know how she could possibly believe shes actually a good role model when shes clearly a cancerous 'friend' to those who know her.
>She basically just said what she thought would end the threads watch on her. But she continues to brush off and ignore the hate she spread and started. Beth hasnt done anything along the lines of an apology either. I wonder how yhe girls she claimed to be ~*gucci*~ with feel about being thrown under the bus to her followers then having no correction made on ninas side to clear their names. All her teeny booper fans are still going to look at them in the way nina painted them.
I mean real talk for a sec. I assume she doesn't change things because the legit criticisms are buried in spergy lolcowisms like making fun of her for being gay and her face. Like a bunch of people who say 'cummies' aren't in a great place to make fun of 'leggies.'
I think the legit criticisms of her character would do better if brought to other social media platform. Because there are some real ones. Gunna give them a rundown.
She always talks about being 'drama free' and yet in her cosfame timeline she's abandoned not one but two whole friend groups (IMT and Team Trash). At that point, it's not them, it's you, Nina.
She falsely accuses people of copying, but that's been pretty hammered out here.
She has really poor business practices with putting content that was once free as something to pay for. Yeah artists should make bank off work. But most yters who get famous don't just stop releasing a lot of content to their subs and start moving it to patreon, they make new types of content for patreon. And she kept her twitch stream public for long enough to make money and then closed it off.
And considering that she's always harping on how her audience is young it feels really weird that she continually does stuff like put the type of content they originally subbed for behind a paywall so they use their milk money on it or w/e.
She's really, really condescending about being 'an adult' when questioned about her not at all adult shit like her sudden move in with her gf (so glad you redid your whole room just to move out), or like her 'food sensitivities.' To an extent, I get that it's fuckin annoying to have 13 year olds clamoring to tell you about your life. But a person telling you how to make an alternative starbucks drink is not the same thing.
More on that. Some advice is legit good advice for a young adult anyways. Like the gf thing. She thinks cause she's had a lot of relationships she's super ready. But aside from the fact that living together is different and 25 isn't old-your first gay relationship sets you back to teens years in terms of honeymoon phase and hearteyes. Like, a lot of people mistake the good feelings of finally being 'out' and in a gay relationship with it being their one truest of true loves.
Also, the diet advice would be bad if she weren't claiming extreme food insensitivities and she wasn't 5'5" and weighing 105lbs. She used to have cystic acne and it cleared up around the time the 'insensitivies' started, I'd love to tell her that a side effect of some antibiotics prescribed for acne can cause temporary (few years) food intolerances that look like celiacs but aren't celiacs. It would be none of anyones business if she didn't look ill and she also didn't smack down even a suggestion of alternatives.
I would agree with you on lolcow not being the proper forum for people to express their problems with this girl (as primarily its more of a hate-on-them type forum) had it not been for her own posts in this thread. I think the reason people are still upset is because Mango herself posted long written apologies of sorts and acted as if this thread had shown her the light and inspired her to do better and be better for her fans sake.
However all we've seen since her posts is the same behavior from her. She acted as if pretending things never happened in some cases, then offering brief descriptions of her donation plans/patreon tiers and rewards was what this thread's goal had been. When in fact the people here, not the ones making personal attacks or attacks on her physical appearance, wanted her to wisen up as a person with a larger following consisting of a large percentage of younger/newer cosplayers. She sets an example and her petty behavior mixed with her ego has sent out bad signals and prompted negative behavior by others on her behalf and she has yet to correct it. She has also taken money from this audience and used it as she pleased when it was donated for purposes to help her provide more material for them. The more money she receives the more content she puts behind a paywall as you put it.
People followed her for cosplay tutorials and resources. Her Cosplay 101 is why she has the numbers she does and she has neglected that in order to focus more on a secondary vlog channel, live streaming games, etc. >>276524
Shes never come out as ana has she? From all i've seen (mainly a post she made with her current disorders) she has like seasonally triggered
depression, BED, anxiety- the usual list. Im not saying she isnt ana or that her issues are valid but I agree its hard to trust someone to use their problems as a footing to do good and be a positive light when she acts nice on instagram and then acts hateful on her public cosplay twitter.
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Hatter never posted anything about this drama and quietly took the videos down. Meanwhile, Nina tweeted about it and carried on the drama and threatened legal action, and she acts like she and Hatter were on the same level. The whole thing was stupid to begin with.
Very typical of most cows.
Totally agree here. I went through her twitter with the advance search around the timelines of the screencaps in those earlier posts and cant find a single tweet mentioning anything about the drama or Nina and Beth. I also tried to check her tumblr but its not very old, i remember her having it before but it looks like she deleted it around the christmas time drama and then remade it when she returned. I cant say for sure, maybe due to Nina's followers trying to come at her? She took down the specific videos Nina and Beth had been threatening over as well for the same reason im assuming. I also love how Nina is just trying to play it off like theyre bffs now, to quote her long post earlier theyre now "gucci" but Im sure if Hatter spoke up she would tell us a different story. It is just shit to see Nina basically paint it like "we're both guilty because of outside drama/stress but im just a little more guilty" when Hatter didnt say a word. And blaming outside stress and drama on all the crap we've seen in this thread thats come to light? Thats just a cop-out of having to take actual responsibility for the fact that she was so far up her own ass that she spent 2 years trying to tear down and attack another youtuber/cosplayer that, from what we can tell was completely singled out from the others that 'copy' her brand. It 100% went from being a slight problem with her to a full blown vendetta.
Don't even get me started on Beth though. That girl is a wreck in every aspect of her life. She hasn't shown any kinds of attempts at making amends on any of her profiles and she said some nasty stuff too. We should really get someone to message her and see what kind of excuse she blames her behavior on. I wouldn't put it past her to try and pin it on one of her disabilities shes always talking about vs. owning up to being just terrible.
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I dont think we can expect much from Beth. Looks like shes just trying to gloss over her shitty self by acting as if shes some reborn space princess who is kind and loving to all. The fact her alien kick came from cosplaying oikawa and has blown up this big (and the fact she is a galaxy snowflake) is really kind of hilarious.
Nina commented on one of Hatters prompto videos (maybe because of >>278874
) and even tweeted @ her. Yet no public apologies or attempts to rectify her mistakes in sight.
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It's funny how much better Beth looks with longer hair. She should go back to that look.
After she and her ex fiancee split she really let herself go. She developed all her disorders and intolerances after that and started being a massive koreaboo. She wants to move to korea literally based on her love for kpop only and nothing else about the culture.
She chopped off all her hair then bitched when her mom disliked it about she didnt understand or support her or something.
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Simplicity literally hired her to make patterns yaya han already made for Mcalls.
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I think its just the picture and packaging tbh. If you look at yayas trainer cosplay her pattern makes the exact same thing as mangos. Would make sense why mango backtracked on her copying drama now that shes pumping out the same products as someone else but for a different brand.
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Just gonna leave this here.
Holy shit you are not lying. The first 20 seconds has this wannabe Casey N. vibe but all that backwards and forwards is terrible. Ive seen it done with longer clips and maybe with 1 or 2 clips in the intro but 6 or so tiny clips just jumping front to back is enough to make you wanna puke. Why doesn't she develop her own kind of vlogging style instead of just copying what literally every other vlogger does? It makes the video less unique.>>286456
Queen of washing out any features on her face tbh. I remember when she first cut her hair in to that short teal pixie, thats when she started identifying as gender fluid. Its amazing what trying to be a KPOP boy can help you discover about yourself.
Mind the fact that I am Korean. People like Beth are the reasons why I am starting to despise the how popular Kpop is since I find the culture to be more interesting.
I swear if Beth moves to Korea, I hope she gets a lot of shit from the people there because she's nothing but a koreaboo who probably doesn't understand that Korea is currently in a bad situation with all the political scandals that has been happening.
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Paid promotion? It's not poop tea, but Insta's a pretty common marketing platform for tea these days.
There's no way this isn't paid promo.
Maybe it slipped her mind to let her followers know.
Def paid promo. She makes sure to mention how much energy she has because of it, just like the tea site itself does. "Someone" suggested it to her, and she mentioned no one but the company in her post.
The sampler pack is $45.
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Looks like Nina's channel also got hit by the #ourmine. She said on her twitter it was her network Studio71 that got hacked and not the channel
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I'm pretty sure it's both against policy and illegal. Not completely sure about the illegal part, but I was just watching a video on this.
It's just weird to be a former fan of Nina to see her spiral into this weird state of petty and bitchiness tbh
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I'm not sure why you would be all that surprised about this state. Someone shared this in a thread on chan recently comparing her and yaya's patterns. Its old but it just goes to show that she has literally always been like this.
People tried to defend that because this is old and she was younger what can you really expect, but this thread alone has proved she hasnt changed at all she just hides it a little bit better for 'image' sake.
She needs to change the description. It's obvious this money is going to those things.
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The bottom comment makes me lul
She used #ad on this one but not the first post she made about the tea. Clearly this "someone suggested it" was a big lie like everything else she does/says.>>293610
Please dig and find that mess if you can. I may dig through her tumblrs and see if i cant find some stuff myself after seeing this gem >>292096
Ad the person who made that 4Chan post all those years ago I can reassure you, she did the same thing in that thread as she did here.
She paid lip service, half apologized while making excuses, and said she'd leave her ego at the door. She'd grow and change for the better.
Unfortunately I approached her at a convention, anonymously as I was wearing a mask, to try to speak with her. Mind you she was mostly alone and just chilling and I wanted to change my opinion of her (egotistical and privileged) and she used the mom voice on me and treated me, with my tits pushed up, like I was one of her teeny bopper fans despite starting off with a very calm "Hey! You're Sirene, right??" And eventually wrote me off in the conversation after I tried to talk with her about Batgirl.
I wish I had caps. Look in the 4Chan archives. They might be there.
I was hoping for caps of the thread on 4chan dingus. She got into with the cosplay director there, made that post, and continued to get into it with him when caps got posted.
Then she realized NO ONE was on her side and made the faux apology like the one above.
The whole thing was amazing.
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Ask and you shall receive. I'm at work so here's just a taste.
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I wonder how much work Simplicity has to put in to fixing up her patterns. From afar her work looks okay but up close its rarely decent and she doesnt even serge her seams lol
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This is just so good. And further down the just keeps digging herself in deeper. It's so funny how this all sounds exactly like what she posted here. Nothing changes.
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The neutral and not attacking comment on her convlog (which isnt on her channel anymore i just looked) that caused her to make that long bitch post lol
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Adding some more:
This is the owner(?) of the con I guess who "attacked" her.
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And this is her response.
The comment below I left on because its hilarious that she learned absolutely nothing.
Also, I feel like her apologies in that thread are VERY similar to the half-assed apology she made in this thread.
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Digging around on Google is fun. This was on another /cgl thread. Someone was asking if Nina was the biggest fake "positivity" cosplayers and they said no, but then shared this gem.
So besides the whole ghosting cons she and her IMT girls used to do (lots of accusations there), she and her friends encroach on people's hotel rooms too. Oh man, she's a pro at doing cons for "cheap". No wonder she pretty much goes as only a guest nowadays.
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Also follow-up on this whole situation 2 years later. Sound familiar?
Lol, I need to stop.
Speaking of IMT here's their old YouTube channel. https://m.youtube.com/user/InnerMindTheater
Here's a couple choice cringe videos from when IMT was obsessed with Young Justice. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5mpUZ-VwjlUhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CzgiwNAMC1I
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Found this in my local walmart. Its 21.95
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Another thing to go against her claims of not liking to call people out or start witch hunts. This is older from her tumblr and she clearly leaves a few usernames uncensored for her followers.
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Not a paid promotion? Clearly she put #ad on the second instagram post she made about this tea but not the first. And this video was posted after that second post so???
The thing she didn't know she needed a badge for was literally a private session with the baby tiger for con promo material. During the con. That like a handful of people got to do. No one "told her she needed a badge" because she was at the con, was mildly popular, and friends with the photographer. It was kinda assumed.
Her definition of ghosting is screwed up too. I never ghosted, I just showed up at the con in costume without a badge! Uhhhhhh….that's ghosting yo.
In the original post that caused the blowup she talked about how IMT ghosted because "badges were expensive" and they were poor college kids. Like 50 bucks is too much but NOT the 400 dollar hotel room? What.
I will agree that during the promo stuff it wasnt her fault for knowing because she was partaking in those events offered by the con for promo material. She wasnt just hanging out petting tigers on the cons dime.
However, during the con itself she knew she needed a badge. She just figured because she wasnt going to panels what was the point in buying one? But then she tried to lie by saying they were: sold out, too expensive, didnt know she needed one, etc. and dug herself in to a deeper hole.
I think the biggest issue was, from what i can see on the archive, is that in her video she boasted about not having/needing the badge to do all the fun stuff she did. Basically informing her fanbase that they could go to this con and get to do all the stuff she did without paying for it.
Another post I saw was where she told the owner she would include "buying a badge" in her up and coming guide to conventions video. I skimmed the video and she touches on 11 things, none of them being purchasing a badge. Maybe she slips in in somewhere but its definitely not one of the highlighted items.
This is what I hate about these types of people. If you cannot afford the badge, do not go! Simple as that! Yeah, it sucks, but it's not life or death.
They could have volunteered at the cons or staffed them. The few years I couldn't afford a badge to my local con, I staffed it. You get time to see things, but you pay them back by working. Not hard. Don't ghost cons and then take over rooms other people paid for.
It's funny how she says she was glad this happened because it was a wake up call. Yeah, sure honey.
It was a "wakeup call" just like this thread was. Except she obviously hasnt changed at all.
If you're so cheap you have to ghost a can (despite having ~7000 fans) at least dont be stupid enough to brag about it in your convention vlog.
It WAS on the cons dime. It was even done during the con. Hence why the staff was mad. That was 3 slots for that event that could have gone to people who actually supported the con, rather than self-entitled cosplayers who threw fits over being called out.
It wasn't just Sirene but Courtoon and Solo at least had the good grace to lay low during the whole debacle. Unlike the "people who drink at cons are losers" drama. Ironic considering how they all turned out.
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Adding this because i had to look it up and remind myself. Its Beth's KatsuCrack video. Its literally the start of the video and she bitches for the first 45 seconds and says about 50+ f-bombs. Definitely doesnt suit her con-mom mature image.
God I remember it blew up all over facebook but here's hoping someone has caps. Basically some kid made a dumb meme making fun of people who go to parties and drink versus cosplayers. You know that whole outcast teen edgy "you laugh because I'm different, I laugh because you're all the same" crap but with alcohol. And if you drink for fun you're a loser but dressing up is cool. Something like that. But, they used an image of IMT for the cosplayers….I wanna say Kingdom Hearts maybe? Maybe it was a cosplaysecret thing? Was that a thing?
Of course it was like viral wildfire of so many congoers going "uh, the fuck. We drink at cons ALL the time." and basically just call the meme out for BS.
Well because it was their image, IMT went beserk defending it. Basically talking about how they didn't ~need~ alcohol to have fun and people who did were losers who they didn't want to hang out with. Especially at cons.
Fast forward and drunk wine mom can't apparently go a con without getting blitzed. I believe that was my first introduction to them. Good times. I'll see if I can at least find the image.
Thats hilarious i hope you can find it.
Also i just watched her day two chicago trip vlog and noticed something. She had a 2k+ goal on patreon for a body mount stabilizer but she only bought a little handheld that couldnt have cost more than 1k. Whered all that extra money per month go?
Do we know if the IMT girls made this or if it was just their photo used?
Also, i remember a while back nina and beth having a full blown conversation on their public twitters about their lack of interest in sex with guys. As far as i know beth admits to sleeping with anyone who asked and nina was only with guys before lettelle. But to use their PG cosplay twitters where they act like everyones mentor and cosplay moms to air out all that is something else.
She literally uses regular life issues to justify bad actions and behavior. Her entire apology post >>265619
is very half-hearted and full of excuses. "I bully because i hate when people copy me because they can be SO MUCH BETTER" like she wants sympathy for being an asshole.
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Havent watched it yet but why would the girl who has previously admitted to not liking her username make this kind of video? How can she seriously think this series is worthwhile when she makes such basic and bottom barrel videos?
Some take aways from this video:
1. Don't COPY someone else cough
2. Like your handle
3. Back in her day all that existed was Coslay.com
4. Kids these days. She's still on being the mom
Also her upper arms. Yikes.
That thumbnail photo is so unflattering. The form of the kick is bad but the angle is just a full on crotch shot basically.
She has such an annoying way of speaking. Its like shes reading off a script and schooling you. Theres no personality to her videos anymore.
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I love how she basically says if you use sirene in your name people will relate you to her basically.
Also I love her "Kids these days say the darnedest things and I dont know what they mean sometimes." Wow grandma, very edgy at the rip old age of 24. Im wondering if the reason she keeps zooming in on her head shakes and shoulder shrugs is to try and be funny/personable. Because I cant say in her older videos she ever did this as much as she did in this video.
Bingo. She's been dedicated (social media) and somewhat lucky (IMT and being Courtoon's friend) in the e-fame game, and it's paid off. She's about average, technique wise, but she has an attractive body that hides a lot of what's beyond her. Seamstress of 12+ years here, bust shaping is easier with less curves. Notice most of her costumes pre-ed were made of stretch knits, therefore very forgiving. See >>238026
for her current skills on things that aren't tubes.
I think people really liked Courtoon and Nina spent the most time with her during IMT. As well as being the most active on social medias. But she didnt start getting a gathering on youtube until she started spitting out Cosplay 101 which essentially are just things shes googled and regurgitated in to video form. Doing this has made her seem like shes some kind of cosplay guru and there to help everyone with every little thing.
When she used to get questions on tumblr it was all just stuff people were too lazy to google. It made her head big and she built her whole 'brand' around these little tips and tricks (pressing your seams, choose a username you like etc.)
I think my biggest issue with a lot of her videos is they either read like a wikipedia copy&paste that shes reciting from a script or they have actually no real information in them at all. Her 'How to dye fabric' video talks about all the different dyes vs. actually showing these dyes in action on different fabrics or different methods to use them. Her 'How to draft patterns' video shows you a bunch of rulers and tools but doesnt actually show her really drafting anything from scratch. Its all borderline useless.
I remember I was so fucking salty when that video came out. I was still a fan and had really looked forward to some information on drafting because it was a weakness for me.
Lo and behold the video is a bunch of fucking tools and ZERO INFORMATION about HOW to use any of it.
Jedimanda is going to look way better. Nina has never mad a dress like that as her Belle was a commission so i wonder if she plans on buying it.
Somepne on tumblr told het she looks just like anastasia or something like that and i laughed. I also wonder which of her cosplays shes doing will eventually be a pattern now.
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Has Beth ever even competed in anything? As far as I remember Nina only did that one contest with Jillian in their Fire Emblem costumes. Truthfully the skit itself was boring but they had brought a video graphic and had some guy do a voice over on it so thats probably what helped them win. But is that enough to actually host a panel on competing?
Maybe, but I cant say anyone in IMT other than Courtoon can really be considered all that attractive.
Then she was a part of 'Team Trash' and really the only one who was nice looking in that group was Jillian so..
God as a long-time cosplay competitor and a judge I fucking hate it when people with no experience with competitions try to make up some bullshit "advice". It's never good and often sends the competitors on the wrong track since the advice is not based on experience but it's the most obvious and vague kind of shit. Ugh.>>301950>Cue Mango bitching about people doubting their decision to move together after 2 months
You think she'll suddenly get herself a man and completely abandon the idea of being gay while claiming "I never said I was exclusively lesbian"? Or maybe she'll turn asexual.
probably, i mean when i knew her she was all about hot guys and male characters only.
i mean theres nothing wrong with being bi ffs
Lettelle has been at a con this past weekend per her instagram but she hasnt tweeted or posted in regards to Ninas grandmother dying on Saturday(?) Like not any word she has just been sharing all con stuff so im curious if they broke up.
In a stream Nina said they postponed moving due to her work obligations but letelle also didny have a job lined up so wonder if that played in to it.
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I wonder if she'll take down the convlog with that long "love of my life" message at the end. Plud thr challenge videos they did together.
It's easy to romanticize something when its only through texts and once a month (if that) interactions.
Also, checked Beths twitter and dear god I wish theyd stop letting her do makeup tutorials. This is poor makeup from what i can see and she looks awful.
Shit around that same time she was all "I don't do guy characters cuz I don't make a good guy" now it's all "gays do crossplay I am le gay look how le gay I am with my dead fucking fish lips because I think slathering concealer on them makes me a guy cuz guys are secretly dead right? I r great at this.". I…have issues with that crossplay trend and she's spreading it like its good makeup nngggbh.
If she goes back to dating dudes is she going back to strictly lady cosplay again?
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She was only about dudes until Lettelle then suddenly she was bi or whatever she labelled herself as.
Also sharing this koreaboo gem from beth
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You can now give your con mom $100 or even $1,200 a month! What a great deal!
Even JNigri doesnt have tiers this high lol
Nah she was only about dudes until she got called out for her yaoi "we're girls pretending to be boys making out" photos because fake lesbians. Then she was all but I'm ~queer~ even though I legit never mentioned it before ever.
Just like she was actually totes technically a POC when she got called out for her shit Lance makeup when she literally never mentioned that before either.
Its a running trend I notice.
She's only even reporting it because she thought we'd all stop instead of dredging up her past in which she had a similar attitude towards things.
Also she should know better. This isn't 4Chan where she van report for being solo'd out as her attitude bites her in her wine-mom butt.
This is what she gets for not crediting the tutorials she stole to make hers. (Such as the pokemon trainer pattern)
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The concealer lip is sooooo popular among anime crossplayers cuz lips make one feminine or something. Except. Men have color in their lips because they are alive and it's blood that makes them have color. Slathering your lips with concealer makes you look dead not masculine. Unless you're cosplaying a vampire it looks like shit and washes you right the fuck out.
And with her establishing herself as a cosplay guru and making shitty tutorials people are gonna think this shit is good and it's like a rage button for me. Men have less full lips, not dead lips. Thin them with concealer not this shit.
This is not crossplay makeup. This is fucking shit and she charged patrons for this crap. She didn't even google other crossplay tutorials to steal. She did normal make up slightly thickened her brows and slathered concealer on her lips and called it a tutorial.
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I'm going to appreciate Lettelle's expressions here. She had some great looks in the background with her hands on her hips. With three jump cuts, Nina seemed to take forever talking to the camera. It looks like Lettelle just wanted to go out and eat.
Well really it makes you wonder. Of course Lettelle is okay with being included in convlogs and challenge videos but did she really sign on to have her constant day to day with nina vlogged?
Like they were in chicago to apartment hunt and they couldnt do anything without nina shoving her dslr in to the situation.
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I remember she and beth (maybe the other two from team trash as well) were bitching a long time ago about some girls asking where they got their genderbent Free! wigs. They were making it out like 'do your own research!' 'dont ask us just so you can get all the exact same stuff we did!'
For some reason advance search isnt working so maybe they blocked it somehow?
I did find this old gem though from their ex-friend Jillian who seemed to be on the attack as well in defense of poor Nina who is always being copied. Wonder if it was related to anything shared in this thread before or not. Either way I love how she says her and her friends are kind to not use their #s and drag this other person but also mentioned that she hasnt contacted said person because EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW. Yet if you dont message them how can they know theres a problem? Not everyone knows how to read vague bitch tweeting.
I think she stole from free available materials for almost all her simplicity patterns. Nearly every single thing she 'has a process for' has a free DevArt/Tumblr tutorial. That she never credits despite being all about receiving credit.
She doesn't mind hurting other creators or stealing from the kindness of those doing what she does (but for free) but again, she has an army of people who will tell her she did X instead of Y so it's totes different enough.
Did she even credit Kamui for the breastplate tutorial???
I dont think she credited kamui despite making the most generic and beginner style breast plate using kamuis method to the T. She never gives credit unless shes paid for it like her cosplaysky plugs.
I find it hilarious she was plugging them for her schoolgirl uniform that she says she didnt want to make when she literally made a pattern off it. Like make your own and pimp your pattern at least jesus.
Also shes working on ashe from ff and a corset now. Ill bet her next pattern is a corset or something and she again wont credit any tutorials she used for it. Because of course she knows all.
I just think a corset on her skeleton frame is going to look disgusting. Also, she tried to garner pity about not knowing why she was loosing weight and would be seeing drs in that livestream or whatever but she hasnt mentioned anything since. Wonder if she was lying.
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Beth literally picked her channel up saying she was going to do like monthly tutorials themed around specific characters like RWBY and others and that NEVER ended up happening. She also has major inconsistencies with her thumbnails because pretty much it looks like she had Nina make the earlier convlog ones and then she was in charge of the rest.
Nina tried to pimp her in her latest cosplay makeup video as the guru and go-to for all makeup questions but yet her skill is like picture related lol. She looks awful.
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She often looks like an old woman, unless she heavily overexposes her photos. I'm not sure why so many people think her Ferid is exceptional, or any cosplay she does for that matter.
In this more recent example, I can't unsee her as Skyler from Breaking Bad.
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If i remember correctly she finished that cosplay the night before in the hotel room. She used to go on huge twitter rants about her love for soowon (??) But could only manage to half ass the cosplay. Beth buys literally everything and what she does make is usually low in looks and skill. Definitely not someone people should consider the best towards any character lol.
Also, nina def checks this thread. No food posts in about 8 months then >>305308
mentions it and suddenly a food picture goes up.
Didn't she start
that costume at the con or am I mistaking that for another costume? I know at one point (I think at Colossal last year or the year before) that happened.
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I dont know if she started it at the con or finished it, but i went back to look at the vlog and shes hot gluing something together for another cosplay with the soowon sitting next to her.
I also don't like that she's getting the credit for designing the Fire Type group from Katsucon. Especially since Lettelle stole her design.https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/ee/32/32/ee3232771182eefcf475aaa6778a29fd.jpg
She modified it a bit but you can see a lot of similarities in the details.
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She completely stole this design just did a way shittier version. Even the scar on the face is a rip off. She offers absolutely no form of credit for taking from this artist.>>308402
I always thought it was really weird that they had their own group for yona at the exact time dejavudea had hers. If theyre such buddies youd think theyd team up. But nina is petty so who knows the motivation.
Oh man thats great. I always thought it was weird they didnt appear in each other vlogs really. Where did you hear this?
Its not surprising though. Jillian went to the same con as Nina and Beth and they avoided each other as well.
The first of the rewards in that $100 tier isn't even a thing unless you're in an area where she's going to a con.
If someone was paying me $100 out of their pocket a month for me to play arts and crafts for a living I would sure as hell be giving them better rewards that would be worth it outside of paying to be around you and your friends. It just seems weird, like you're buying your way to a type of "friendship" club.
I definitely noticed it to. I have followed her for awhile and used to think of her as kind of a fitness inspa. She had muscles and looked pretty great in general.
I know she's always been into weird diets and drinks, but I'm wondering if there is something legit wrong with her health judging by her current appearance. She looks like she would break in half if she was hugged too hard. Like this is in no way a good look and if this is something she isn't controlling she needs to see a doc.
I seriously think shes psychologically deprived herself of foods she deemed not healthy and now they make her sick because her body doesnt have the ability to break them down properly anymore. Like to say she cant do breads, dairy, fats, literally everything other than seafood and coffee make her sick, so she says, so it has to be some kind of ED even if she doesnt recognize it as one.>>308878
They made that stupid drunk Q&A together and it was so awkward. I feel like their personalities are extremely conflicting. I mean in one of ninas videos with lettelle they went to one of deannas dance show things then stupidly dabbed behind them. Like if i had a dance group that worked to learn a routine to perform it for others id be pissed if someone lessened our show by showing up out of nowhere and dancing obnoxiously in the background. But nina has to be the center of attention.
One thing i noticed. Even when shes a guest hardlu any people take pics with her and tag her on instagram. Her last con there were only like 4 or 5 that showed up. If shes great enough to be a guest youd think there would be a better response to her presence there. I wonder what attendance to her panels is like.
Lol hi nina.
Do you plan to deliever on anything you said in your apology posts? Giving proper credit for the tutorials and designs you use and profit from to their actual artists?
Also, do you have any intentions to publicly apologize to the people youve attacked and used or will it just continue to be ignored like youve done thus far?
That's a great way to blame personal failings on others, if this is even true.
They probably think this is like 4chan so baseless rumors will get believed and they can keep us off of her undelivered promises and possible ED.
It's also obvious she thought allot of stuff from her past and her stealing designs would not be brought up.
Anyone know if they're still reporting the thread???
No clue if shes still reporting but im pretty sure its Nina >>309529
I used to follow her twitter back when she was trash from team trash and all she literally ever talked about was getting/having/loving dogs. So for that little detail to be included and the undertones of sarcasm i'm about 95% sure its her trying to be coy.
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Beth locked her cosplay handle twitter lol. So now she has a locked 'personal' account and a locked cosplay account.
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Dang that was some weekly entertainment. I guess there's still her insta for now.
>that apt watermark
Sigh. Well, I guess she just won't learn.
Anyone want to take bets on her disappearing to Patreon only??
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All the old tweets are gone..?
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I can still see her tweets. Glad I kept following her so I could stay when she locked it.
Tbh, I think her and Mango are taking this thread hard. I know they're going to ASTL but Mango has been slow on social media since the thread picked up traction.
We already know they've been lurking and that either them or their friends occasionally try to make the thread off topic.
Then again, both act like they don't care so much. Accusations of stealing designs (but can and had been proven) can hurt Mango's 'career', but she shouldn't have done it.
She needs to own up to it.
Beth deleting her twitter and starting over is her trying to erase how shitty she was/is versus owning up to it an apologizing. Nina pretended to take her shit being brought to light to heart earlier in this thread but she never publicly took responsibility outside of this thread.
There have been no apologies from either of these girls for the bullying or design theft and it seems like theyre just going to pretend none of it happened.
The thing is, with the screenshots in this thread alone theres plenty of proof of their true personalities behind those fake images theyve created for themselves. These girls are both egotistical with inflated heads who are ugly and attack others while trying to play innocent victims. Nina has clearly stolen several designs by others and used tutorials with no credit for personal profits. And despite saying she would make credit known she has continued on her same path.
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Looks like Beth locked her account, deleted fucking everything, and then unlocked it again. Definitely trying to hide all of her shit behavior from the past year. Too bad screen caps are out there.
From what I remember Dea works in like a lawyers office or something. So she has a very legit 9-5/8-5.
Nina always complains about all her 'jobs' and how she looses sleep or has very little time. Literally her LinkedIn profile lists:
- Pattern Designer for Simplicity
- Twitch Partner
Thats the only current stuff she has listed. So to break it down. She films and posts videos to youtube once every 1-2 weeks. She streams on Twitch 2 times a week and she puts out 1 pattern a year (so far) with simplicity. Though she says shes done articles with Simplicity as well those cant take more than a couple hours to write.
Now Patreon is a little more full (a schedule which she has full control over) with 4 private livestreams for the month, 2 bonus videos (a panel & con after dark so those are recorded while at a con and not additional filming work), and cosplay EDU. ← thats just where she gives people assignments and they get points for doing it to use on prints. Other than that she just mails the physical rewards.
So I can see her being busy but not warranting nearly enough complaining about it as she used to do. Simplicity is the only 'job' that isnt on a schedule SHE made for herself. Doing actual work, like at a lawyers office, is not nearly the same as filming videos and sewing all day.https://www.linkedin.com/in/ninalynns
Also, isnt it a little weird Nina and Beth have been at ASTL this weekend, but so far neither have posted a single picture or been tagged in one? You would think a guest and her +1 would at least be tagged in a fans photo lol. Literally beth only guests and gets to write articles because shes Nina's +1
I think some drama went down, and that's why Beth privated her twitter and deleted all of her tweets.
We just need to find out what.
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Nina literally works at/for ASTL so shes grandfathered in as a guest basically. But I looked and finally found a picture they were tagged in. Either her fans who ask for pics just never upload them or shes not really as big a deal in person as everyone makes her out to be online.
Seems like letelle deleted her insta cause I went on ninas to go through her pics where she has her tagged and nothing comes up
Hmmmm super fishy
I mean she got hyper unlucky then, since I've yet to see anyone else with it but….
It would be hilarious. Especially with all the falls modesty Nina and Lettelle have when thanking their new follower count.
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Here you go. But i havent seen any mention about anyone else loosing their instagram so who knows.
Do we know how many people showed up to the meet? And she has the ASTL gig because shes on retainer by the con. Im sure it has to do with her arda connections and their invovlement with the con as well. But she did promo pictures and helped film a video promo or something in the past for them.
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Do we think its a coincidence she posted about how full her panels on Sunday were right after these posts were made? We know she keeps tabs on this thread. First the food picture right after its mentioned here and now shes bragging about how full her panel was right after her tiny meet-up is questioned lol.
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Taken from the ASTL website. Shes a sponsored guest by Arda wigs. So not even someone that con goers requested. The only other 2 cosplay guests are Malinda (arda employee), Malinda's husband and just 1 cosplayer who isnt somehow involved with Arda.
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Well looks like that one anon was right. Nina is quitting "professional" cosplay and shutting down her patreon to persue other career goals.
Good thing she got thousands of dollars to put towards items SPECIFICALLY for her patreon only to never purchase them!
I wonder what shes quitting cosplay to do instead?
Not only did she get thousands for specific video goals she never fulfilled AND equipment she never bought (3k goal for a stabilizer anf per her chicago vlog the one she bought is like 600-800) but also thousands towards a moving fund for her and her girlfriend when it doesnt even look like theyre moving anymore.
We're forgetting that goals stack on top of each other. Her stabilizer goal was only $800-$1k more than the previous goal iirc, it wouldn't make sense for her to have spent $3k on one anyways. TBH I'm surprised none of us thought of that before
She also did buy everything else that was ever a Patreon goal, clearly her lighting improved and she used new software, she was serging in the most recent streams I saw… like I know we're thirsty for milk but this is something that happens all the time, you know? I've seen tons of cosplayers and streamers go off to get "real jobs" and it's something people have to consider when deciding to support them financially. There's always the chance they will choose a more stable career path at some point and for Mango it makes sense. She isn't sexy and no one wants to pay to see her skeletal ass in boudoir, there's only so long she'd have until her Patreon went defunct. To me it sounds like she realized cosplay Patreons are going in a different direction and she's getting out now before that platform collapses under softcore sellers like Byndo and StellaChuu. Probably the smartest thing she's ever done if you ask me, tutorials about sewing will never get the same consistent success as selling polaroids of yourself in VKS lmao
Samefag playing devils advocate, sorry
But same thing with the moving fund, if people wanted to willingly donate their money that was their choice and they had to think about plans changing. We also don't know what they're up to, clearly they're still together as per ASTL photos, they've likely just decided to go private with that stuff after this thread went after them
Idk I haven't paid attention to this thread in a month because it's been so boring, compared to all the other cosplay drama happening these days. Looking at the most recent posts it seems like there are 2-3 people in here with specific vendettas against this girl and they're starting to go around in circles bc they have nothing better to do, most of us on this site can recognize when there's no more interesting milk and don't waste our time literally sitting here guessing about why someone posted a photo of food during a once a year special occasion lol
Hi Nina/ Nina's friends
Either way, the fact she bought all the stuff is pretty irreverent, if she's quitting "professional cosplaying" she's the only one benefiting from the stuff. (Really she was the one benefiting from the stuff in the first place, but if people realized that, crowdfund wouldn't work.) The thread did what it's supposed to, get the snowflake to make a change But, only time will tell if she'll really change for the better. I do hope all of her sponsorships will go to more deserving people.
I get where you are coming from but this board exists to shit on and call people out. I don't know why you're looking for insight beyond that.
Regardless of if that money was donated, it is still shitty behavior. If I donated to some sort of cause, I expect it to be used FOR that reason. If I decided to donate to a cosplay thot for a reason I felt worthy of my money, but they wound up just pocketing it, it would tick me off. I get that it's a donation but I would just give a cosplay thot money for free - I would expect it to go towards what it was intended for.
Sage for OT
I'm neither, lol. Just popping back in from other threads I've cared more about lately because this one turned into vendetta central. I don't like my attention going towards obvious revenge schemes, we may be here to "enlighten" cows but idk I'm not into their enemies using us as a personal army ALL the time you know? That's what this thread has felt like lately especially after she did make changes. Just bc someone in this thread clearly wants a public apology from her doesn't mean Hatter or the other girls wanted that, Hatter was laying pretty low until recently too so if you ask me it looks like they did work things out, Hatters even been hanging out in her streams so who knows. Either way the milk has been out for a while and the few people in here have been beating a dead cow bc their vendettas haven't been satisfied
Also I'm going to be devils advocate again, other people did benefit from the equipment that went towards her videos and streams regardless if we hated her, so the people who donated seem happy with the results they got over the years. They're dumb kids for donating to a cosplayer in the first place IMHO but at least they got more than shitty polaroids?
I'm glad she's moving on, but damn there's part of me that wishes she tried to go the sexy Patreon route lmao. Then we would've had some truly lolworthy content of her trying to look sexy with her sternum bones poking out of a shitty VS bra
Predictions: the money from her patreon went to funding this life goal.
She lays low for a few months for this thread to die so all her stealing regarding pattern and vector and designs and her bullying goes into the ether for a while again and she comes back talking about how bullying made her quit.
ehhh I don't know about this. if she hasn't cried victim before now (like most lolcows do) what would be the point of obliterating all her sources of income, dropping partnerships and disappearing, only to try to return to cry victim after the community has moved on?
sage because that makes no sense at all, sorry. i know we want the milk to continue but this really does just sound like she grew the fuck up and doesn't want to make a living playing dress up anymore. if only all cosplay thots could do the same… but then again that would leave us with an empty barn of cows
>>314845>I don't know about this. if she hasn't cried victim before now
She has though?? She thanked her fans for supporting her special lesbian
relationship while saying her being out was why she lost followers. She also blamed the Voltron fandom. She cried victim over her designs being 'copied' and made it public enough her fans hunted it down?? All covered in the thread.
The only warning she has toward her fans about her career path changing is on FB and Twitter, not Tumblr, Insta, Patreon. So that's kind of a new low for her.
>i know we want the milk to continue but this really does just sound like she grew the fuck up
So she quits cosplay without apologizing for stealing vectors and designs and that's her growing up??
Assuming this is true and not bait it sounds like she can't handle the stress rn like an adult would, especially since she made multiple posts about carrying on and how she was going forward with cosplay as a career despite her personal situations.
She probably realized the real world is more expensive than the 3k she was making a month when you factor in bills, cosplay costs, and the fact that you can barely take a week off in this sort of career path. (see any youtuber video where they fret over taking a vacation)
That's a privileged life. Like, she's been super lucky and the fact that she is being so vapid to the idea that a real job will keep her from hanging out is just showing how childish she is.
Plan your schedule, film ahead of time, keep your business flowing on a queue like most content creators do. Jfc.
She literally just updated her Patreon with the reward tiers from >>302456
where if you pay her enough you can pick her next cosplay.
As for the rewards stacking on to one another, if i remember right the tier goal was for a body mount stabilizer that was over $2,000. It was literally IN the description of the tier. Then when this thread called her out on not spending the money where its meant to be, she altered the descriptions and bought a handheld less than $1,000 stabilizer instead.
> Just bc someone in this thread clearly wants a public apology from her doesn't mean Hatter or the other girls wanted that, Hatter was laying pretty low until recently too so if you ask me it looks like they did work things out, Hatters even been hanging out in her streams so who knows.
This irks me. Just because the girls she harassed didnt stoop to her level and publicly say anything about the drama or mango's fans coming after her doesnt mean they dont deserve an apology from her for the stain she put on their names. The people shes talked to about them will always see their usernames as the Mango copycats and if she was really sorry she'd rectify that. No one should have to 'lay low' because someone with more numbers to their name has a baseless vendetta.
Not saging because it's funny how you stopped replying around the time Lettelle entered her stream and now are back after it's over and ignore all the people who pointed out how invalid your previous claims were.
I give her 3 months max before she comes back 'professionally'.
>I am totes a separate anon from that other anon despite no one using the term "cosplay thot" until today. Also trying super hard to use the board lingo so I'm def totes one of you. Def not one of Sirene's buddies. At all.
Sure, kiddo. Sorry people think entitled rich white girl is entitled and pocketing others cash? And her excuses are piss poor and flimsy.
I do enjoy how she's leaving up her pages for another two weeks to rake in more sweet donations though. Gotta milk it.
not a friend of hers, and no, like i said, i was watching the stream too? which is why i posted after it ended? i didn't feel a need to sit here and liveblog it idk. sorry that my opinion is different than yours, I'm used to being in threads that are much more interesting than this one turned out to be I.e. Ones that deal with actual "cosplay thots" hence my preferred lingo
she's leaving Patreon up to finish this months rewards. if she quit it early and took all their money without finishing rewards, imho that'd be a lot worse? and when she mentioned closing her store early the chat requested she keep it open for a few weeks so all her little fans can get their last round of prints. again, their shitty money choices, and they'll at least be getting a product in return. if she was leaving prints up indefinitely that'd be hilarious but it's a "last call" that most cosplayers do when closing a print store.
overall i still think it's a win? I'm just glad i won't have to see this bitch in my YouTube recommendations day in and day out. like other anon said maybe her sponsorships will go to cosplayers who deserve them more. like Hatter or Jinx, that'd be fucking poetic lmao. and like i said i'd be more interested in a thread about beth. I think beth was the source of the milk all along. maybe that's why Mango is getting out and distancing herself.
again saging because this is all speculation
I think Beth probably erased all her twitter posts because she knew 98% of mango's drama could be pointed back to her and her influence. She left her tumblrs up though so its very possible theres still remnants of how utterly awful she is to other people and fans.
Mango leaving right as she gets work with simplicity and stuff though is a bit out of left field so this offer of hers for this new career path must have been a pretty amazing thing to make her suddenly 180 on a career shes spent several years building.
She mentioned in her stream multiple times about opening boxes of stuff, and i watched the video on her 2nd channel and it is extremely cringey. But that feels like a poor excuse like no one made her do that? she could make tutorials with more substance, she could make travel vlogs and further the depth of what she offers but shes spent years rinsing and repeating the same few things over and over so no wonder she got burnt out.
exactly. i think beth has much more awful drama lurking about, and now that Mango is out of the picture i'd rather see us figure THAT out than continue speculating and nitpicking over someone who's moving on with their life.
i do agree, it sounds like one of the projects she was working on probably developed into a better opportunity with that company, and the promise of a consistent salary was probably enough to make the jump. hell if i was in her position i know i would've taken it. consistent salary vs. relying on literal children to make donations to me? i would've jumped ship a long time ago.
with the simplicity stuff it was probably a lot more glamorous in concept than it really is, like in terms of money. one pattern a year probably isn't enough to make a living income, it wasn't like she was churning them out on a monthly basis. so again, waiting to get the occasional simplicity pattern vs. a salaried job? i'd take the job even if i wasn't burnt out of cosplay.
and the thing with her trying to mix up her content, her fans are the shittiest bottom feeders. They want the same things over and over again. from what it sounded like. she likely felt like she couldn't branch out without her audience disapproving which could affect her income so changing careers was the better option.
i'm sorry to be arguing with the general consensus. I suppose I'm jut hopeful? i've always side eyed the dumb bitches who try to make a living off cosplay because it's got MAYBE five years left before it collapses in on itself. So to see one of them realize it's time to grow up and get a real career is kind of cool to see, all past shitty behavior aside. it's at least something new lol
But that wasn't what she wanted to do anymore? It sounds like this "career" wasn't making her happy anymore because she "burnt out" of it, and the combination of a close family member dying plus working on projects she hated was enough to make her reevaluate. So she's leaving. It happens. Huzzah. Not much else to say, cosplayers move on to other jobs all the time, even the ones doing it for a living.
We could sit here and speculate but if she's not sharing anything online this thread will be defunct in a matter of days. Ding dong, the cow is dead. Line up the next one for slaughter. My vote is Beth or another friend of hers, like Dejavudea or some of the other cosplay YouTubers, there's more milk where this one came from.
Sorry if it's coming off that way? I'm just bored, compared to how other cows leave their scene. I was hoping something exciting would happen but her leaving cosplay was kind of expected eventually, at least to me, I don't think any of these girls other than Jess and Yaya and maybe Kamui will keep it up for their whole lives. Even if she had a Patreon or took donations or whatever, leaving a job isn't that exciting. I guess keep rehashing her old drama and complaining about how stupid her fans are for giving her money if it's fun. Only was sharing my opinion on it.
Sage for useless commentary. I'm with the other anons. I'm more interested in a thread about Byndo personally but keeping an eye on Beth might pay off too, I'm sure she's bound to go off the deep end without Mango reigning her in or shielding the worst parts of her personality.
Sirene will be back the second she thinks this thread has died, let's be honest. There's so much evidence that she's been lurking and her friends or her have been in here that it's ridiculous.
She also still has all ways to get money still up (donations, patreon, amazon wishlist) so yeah. Still pretty shitty. She's also not quitting cosplay. Just not embracing it 'professionally' anymore, despite just changing her tiers and bragging on her success these last couple months since the thread got vicious on her.>>315038
No one can say she's grown up or out of it, she's still cosplaying. Three of her stream options were cosplay related for the 'last stream', which is why I only give her a few months of a 'professional' break.
Why is like the same fucking person going around trying to say the drama's dead cause she quit-lol, bitch, her quitting ~is~ the milk.
Also realistically her quitting doesn't close up the issues of her acting like she's old and wizened in spite of having virtually no life experience, her ropping friends constantly, her claiming other people steal her shit, or her gluten free ed.
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As a going away present I found one last snippet of Mango's lovely personality. Enjoy it because Beth has wiped her tumblr and this was all I could find. Its old, but still a good one lol
That's definitely bad but it sounds like she got one Tumblr message too many and went off, her fans were/are so fucking cringey (especially back in 2015 during the height of the Free fandom) that I'd probably lose my temper dealing with them too if they were trying to track me down at a con I wasn't guesting at, though ive never guested so it's hard to say. She should have had more tact of course
A true gem, thank you for finding it
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I'm sure Nina appreciates the thread bump Beth. Everyone was leaving it alone to die now that shes quit but your immature ass just couldnt walk away lol.
I mean really, Nina worked so hard (even bashing herself to try and make us think it wasnt her) to get this thread ended with her cosplay exit >>315207
because if she really wanted us to think she was more interested in the other cosplayers thread which basically has 0 milk other than looks bashing no one bought it.
So good on you showing how great a friend you are by bumping!
Exactly this. If it weren't for Nina Beth would not have anything REMOTELY close to the "following" she has now. If her lack of actual updates/interesting videos hadn't already turned people away, her constant raging on twitter about her "ED" would have chased off the rest.
Don't worry Beth, we will get started on you soon.