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No. 391265
A mediocre art youtuber who does sponsored videos every other video, shades other artists, and can't take critique to save her life.
https://www.youtube.com/user/BayleeCreationshttps://www.youtube.com/user/BumbleBayleehttps://twitter.com/Baylee_Jaehttps://www.instagram.com/baylee_jae/http://www.bayleejae.comShe tries too hard to be quirky and relatable when in reality she's just a woman-child with a Disney hoarding problem. She also has a shitty art book coming out. It's very sad.
No. 391285
>>391277She has a couple videos where she shows off her collection of random disney shit that she keeps everywhere, I'll see if I can find it.
Deets on her range from her basically just being a tryhard, mediocre artist. She's better than Holly… which isn't really saying much.
No. 392307
>>391605Plus it just screams "LOOK AT ME! I'M SO QUIRKY AND RELATABLE!"
Though I guess it's fitting that it's punchable, because so is her actual face. It looks like her head never grew into her body.
Not to mention her intentionally ugly faces she pulls in the thumbnails to add to the ~quirky~ personality she tries so hard to fake.
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I'm bringing back this patchy, muddy, anatomically broken mess back
No. 393211
>>391265are.. you.. fucking serious? Has lolcow really sunk this deep into shitty salty useless threads for complete randoms? This girl is nothing but an ordinary youtube artist with zero drama. she's very popular because she makes "fun" art videos that mostly kids and teens watch. she admits she's not a good artist, and isn't bothering anyone. If your only problem with her is that she draws bad, why don't you make a thread about Draw With Jazza?
I know she gets talked about sometimes on /ic/ because she has too much popularity for her 4th grade level art skills. but it's not hard to know why she does if you're familiar with the art youtube community. She's no where near a bad person, cow, or snowflake.
No. 393937
>>393219Because bitching about someone you feel gets undeserved praise and accolades is fine…. but it doesn't deserve it's own fucking thread.
Bring the milk or kill the thread
No. 394912
>>394900it’s like she totally missed the point of the challenge. she’s just doing random anatomical sketches from OTHER anatomical sketches…not drawing from life or references. a good basis in anatomy is good but scribbling out a couple pages of some random ass anatomy before moving on is not going to help you improve.
didn’t finish the video but half of it was so much bitching about how little time she has when all she does is make some shitty art videos on youtube. the challenge is worth it for the practice alone. she just doesn’t understand sketching.
No. 394928
>>394900she irks me so fucking much man. like fuck this thumbnail starts the whole downward spiral.
>>394913i totally feel this too.
No. 394936
>>394900Personally these drawing excerises are pretty okay. Just mediocre as always. Would have liked to see Baylee maybe trying drawing with more fluidity. She’s not under drawing. Baylee’s not understanding that the entire form needs to be drawn from the bottom up.
Other than that I still don’t understand how Baylee got so popular with her “art”.
However I do think she did a better job than Holly Brown. I still hate how both HC and BJ draw…
No. 394949
>>394946yeah, i've intentionally used water to make "rings" of pigment to make things more visually interesting and give it a grimy appearance, but (to keep this at least a little bot on-topic) that's not what bj does.
also, that's not how manes work. they don't come out of the side of the horse's face.
No. 395159
>>394900I don't get her issues with this challenge.
>bitches about time constraints/takes too longum so if the criteria of this challenge is drawing 600 sketches in 30 days with no size specifics, she didn't need to use a huge book pad or even one singular sketch per page. 20 sketches a day is a cakewalk for basic art students who are required to maybe do 10 every hour or two for class.
>"Im a slow drawer"uh, ok, but you don't need to rush? You have a whole month? It's a exercise to sketch faster???
>she draws side profiles and front facing portraits with incorrect anatomy and her style remains stagnantFor a freelance artist she sure bitches alot about how time consuming this is. I mean, how many commissions does she take in?
No. 395227
>>393075I went to look for one of the comments I remembered on the video for this one, but oh so mysteriously they've disappeared…
but I remember having a laugh at someone describing the horse as a squashed plum. the one I was looking for though was someone said how the woman just could not be in that position on a horse like that and Baylee was all "no, bcause I copied a photo for the horse so it must be correct'
still, she sold it for however many hundred $ so I guess she wins
No. 395327
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>>395159>>freelance artistCome on, we all know Baylee can't really be considered a freelance artist. She is basically a less talented modern version of an Art Attack host.
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Sorry for potato quality but this is the shit that makes me hate her.
Shes gone to school and yet she sits there saying the sketch challenge is shit WHILE SHES COPYING OTHER PEOPLES DRAWINGS.
Thinking thats how you get better even though the point of the BOOK is to READ about the animal torso and draw studies of R E A L animals, the pictures in the book is a fucking visual help to make you understand what they're getting at.
(Drawing shapes on it as if you have any knowledge of anatomy or foreshortening doesn't make it a study)
Its such an example of why no kid should watch her content, nor should people spend money on her tard drawings.
Sage of autistic sperging
No. 395372
>>395341The problem is not copying other drawings, art schools and courses will have you copy Bridgman and other masters. There is value in this kind of study. The thing is, the process is not limited by copying a drawing, it's just one of the stages, drawing from life being an important one.
I believe the biggest thing she's supposed to take from this challenge is not necessarily drawing much better, improvement requires constant practice instead of just one month of overpractice, but she should learn to sketch consistently.
No. 395877
>>395372The problem I had wasnt the copying in terms of her just drawing someone elses work. I get studies in that regard but she's not doing a master study, shes just drawing someone elses little picture of a horse and putting literal spider webs on neck like it shows her comprehension of the horses anatomy,
(i get how it came off tho i was on the toilet sperging no lie)
I do agree with the consistency, her style fluctuates so badly cause she seems to just cater to what she THINKS will be good even if it completely goes against the rest of her style.
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Holy shit Baylee turned into a porker. I really wanna see how the dress looks on her tbh,,
No. 397728
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>>395376It's pic related.
No. 397772
>>397685 It also doesn't help that she doesn't have lips, so the faces she makes are akin to a fish.
>>397753 Pretty much m8. I think the majority of her issues is that she lacks self awareness lol like if you are heavy set, skin tight clothes are probably not a good idea out in public.
No. 398647
>>398629"My makeup artist bailed so I did my OWOOOOWWN MAKEUP"
Like. Gurl. You make at least 1k per video.
No. 398684
>>398660That picture is the least of my concerns about her. The drawing alone honestly doesn't bother me. What can be odd, however, is how she's been using that picture for about… 3 years? If she left it the way it was one could argue she just doesn't care enough to switch a picture, but she actually edits it to fit her blonde hair color and tries to revamp it… And well, if Youtube is such a main source of what you do for a living perhaps you should worry a bit more about your presentation, I mean, +800k subs.
Oh, and the way she just inverted the colors to use it as her vlog channel's picture is indeed a lazy ass, bad choice.
She probably considers that to be her branding. Which is not really a good choice.
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>>398693>>398694Or it's someone who is very afraid of being judged, possibly with some body image issues, and seeing the voracity people here criticize Baylee and her appearance just brought up the fear of being the one under the spotlight.
At least that's how I felt when I first read these threads. But I'm a little less innocent than to believe having an emotional outburst in a thread had any chance whatsoever to slow down the hate train.
No. 399369
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No. 399816
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this is from her pink video. a lot of her mannerisms really do feel like those "grown woman that likes disney" people, like this. shes saying "diversifyyyy", as in, that she likes to diversify and do different things with her art. sure, baylee.
No. 400090
>>399617Is this sort of thing normal for a wedding? Seems super awkward, especially the childhood photos that make up most of it.
She seems happier after though, fatter or not.
No. 400116
>>400090Yes and no. Sometimes it can be cute to see how the couple has grown and changef together or have a hurr durr how awkward laugh.
This video in particular emphasizes their lack of visible chemistry tho imo.
No. 401021
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I haven’t seen Baylee’s videos in a while and thought this guy was her uncle or someone.. I swear both of them have gone so downhill
No. 401022
>>401021I just showed my bf that and he genuinely thought it was her dad. It's their wedding day and they just look so awkward together.
I am disgusted by how pretty I think she looks in this photo though.
No. 401505
>>401021Aren't they around the same age? Maybe it's the receding hairline aging him, but he looks like he's in his late 30s.
She looks quite nice though.
No. 401667
>>401616putting the entire ceremony online is kinda eh to me, but to each their own.
Why does she have her own thread? Being a lazy artist and kinda smug about it doesn't seem remarkable to me. I haven't seen her make any controversial content or insult/scam people.
No. 401761
>>401732I thought the people getting butthurt over the art block video were hilarious. She was 100% right. You don't get to use art block as an excuse if you're a professional artist, you have to make your deadlines. Sure she had an attitude but her message was exactly right. It's not her fault all these precious little snowflakes want to be told they can wait for "inspiration to strike" and be professional. That's not how it works in the real world and she was absolutely right. If you can't push through "art block" then you won't make it as a professional. Period. Speaking as a professional artist, I don't understand why people found the video
problematic. It was entirely truthful.
No. 401774
>>401762I know how to sage, I felt my post was relevant to the conversation because it's ABOUT BAYLEE and her video. If im discussing Baylee, I'm not gonna sage.
When has Baylee ever complained about art block? I don't see her being a hypocrite about the art block video at all.
No. 401792
>>401761>>401774That's the thing, what she said was right, it was the fact that it was her saying it that made it odd. If you're gonna do some big talk, that's great, but you have to have big girl art to back it up. You're not really the person to speak for professional artists when you're a hobbyist level artist who only sells art related stuff for being a professional Youtuber, and that's what upset some people. Others were just tards screaming BUT MUH SENSIBILITUS and that mostly overshadowed the valid points people made against her.
If she has such big balls, why doesn't she use said big cojones to get her ass into putting some decent effort on bettering her art? She doesn't appear interested in doing much drawing that isn't gonna get into some video.
No. 401879
>>401732I watched that video and if someone gets upset by that they need to work on their inner strength.
You don't have to be
good at art to be a professional artist. Considering she's worked at an animation studio before (or so she says, I haven't seen anyone debunk it), that means she at least used to be one. Sounds like the old "You can't criticize me if your art isn't good!! :("
I don't want to wk fucking Baylee Jae because she really isn't that great, but not every rando should have a thread on /snow/ because they said something that upset someone or delete comments.
No. 401901
>>401879Shes autistically into Disney
She buys more art supplies than she uses
Theres a whole vlog where she JUST talks about how people are sheep except her cause she thinks on her own
While its very true you cant skip deadlines cause 'muh art block', the way she presented the whole argument was childish and she sounded like a right cunt.
Just like Holly, Baylee has an attitude problem while also drawing like a 5th grader. It's fucking hysterical when she does shit like reply to legitimate critique and without an ounce of irony talks about how 'Its foreshortening' or some other obscene shite when in reality if people keep mentioning the same problem, maybe its you and not them?
Her sketchbook slam challenge was trite, she just drew off of anatomy books and didn't even bother learning anything. It wasnt a master study, life study or even anything that could help her learn. She just drew from the
examples in the book, then proceeded to draw lines in the sketched figures cause thats how you learn anatomy amirite? Shes unprofessional, she went to school for this and can't even sketch more than a page before she has to resort to a 101 anatomy book and draw from it instead of maybe just studying x amount of creepy kids toys and dolls stuck in her "office".
Shes milky at times cause she really is an unprofessional toddler with an ego.
No. 402147
>>401879>Sounds like the old "You can't criticize me if your art isn't good!! :("Everyone is allowed a word of critique, but humility is the least you can do, especially if your art is subpar. Or are you telling me you would trust critiques from say, Norman Rockwell and Baylee Jae equally? Isn't it quite obvious that critique coming from someone who doesn't have the ability to follow what they are preaching is going to hold so much less relevancy, especially if that critique is presented in a snappy, bitchy way? That's partly why people hate Holly Brown so much, she's constantly criticizing everything other artists do while not having art good enough to match her big mouth.
The same way I see people being little
triggered pussies anytime anyone raises their voices, I see people trying so hard to appear oh-so-tougher-than-thou by pretending shitty attitudes are completely excusable. Keeping a good attitude is also part of professionalism.
No. 403000
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how does she have 842k subscribers with this? i'm so mad, and this is when she said she was taking too much time making nice sketches
No. 403080
>>403014She had a toy channel, she has started to change it to an art tutorial channel aimed at a younger audience.
(sage in case I've posted incorrectly, first-time poster)
No. 403260
>>403091I don't know, I feel like I have improved a lot after I started sketching a lot and fast, like fast sketches from life, studying different materials and so on.
It has made my drawing more flowing and less stiff, and it has helped me understand objects as whole concepts instead of just bunch of parts stuck together. I think this is something that shows in lot of amateur artists work, like you can see how they have first sketched tubes that form arms, squares and/or circles that make the torso, and so on, and these shapes are fit together without it looking like clean composition.
No. 403341
>>402657>>402740Agreed with this entirely. This whole thread is a nitpick.
>>403260>>403262>>403264>>403267Both of you need to learn to sage.
No. 404453
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Not milk but I finally got around to seeing the sketchbook slam challenge video and I really shouldn’t have
No. 404498
>>404453These characters look inbred and unappealing…
in the video Baylee did do some drawing studies that were decent but she didn’t understand how to use from those studies. That tells me that Baylee cares more about looking like an artist instead of being an artist.
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The /snow/ thread wasn't made (solely) because of her bad art, she's a stuck up spoiled bitch who can't take ANY form of criticism, doesn't matter how you approach her about it.
Also she likes to complain about the smallest things but she's not only grown up rich, she has had incredible luck throughout her life and doesn't even appreciate it.
Her use of clickbait is annoying as fuck too.
If the thread bothers you so much why do you even come here? Obviously there's enough people who like to bitch about Baylee, just let us be.
No. 404685
>>404548TWO HUNDRED dollars?!?!
as people pointed out on the bad art thread, that's on the idiot who bought them… but holy fucking shit. the girl on the horse has no pelvis.
No. 404713
>>404685and the horse has no neck. none of her artwork is worth the price tag but holy SHIT my jimmies are rustled from that disgusting mess of a composition selling for any amount of money.
also she’s been doing this channel for YEARS? did she start with stick figures or something because i can’t imagine becoming a dedicated artist and still drawing like a middle schooler after years of work. i think teaching yourself to draw is a cool channel idea but this is just sad.
No. 404831
>>404823I've been watching her since zkittyz days, and honestly I wouldn't even say she's improved, moreso just went from anime to wannabe disney style.
I want to like Baylee because I've been watching her for so long but her videos are just getting so bad
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Holy shit I’m cringing, in her latest vlog she got a Pokémon kids playset and was literally so giddy about it like a little girl. This is an almost 30 married woman. I can understand getting a few here and there to display, I have a few toys displayed but just the way she was saying “omg this is so cool” while her friend Jacob was almost nervously laughing in the background, was idk, weird…. it’s like she’s an adult with a childlike mind. I used to love her when she had her teal hair, when she dyed it blonde she became full of herself Hahahaha! I agree with the above comment. She was so much sweeter before. I just think YouTube fame has got to her head. Any sort of opinions that differ from hers are thrown out the window and her opinions are always right. No matter what. Anyone else hate how she baby talks? Especially when she says “Bebay” to her cats or animals. Omg that gets on my nerves.
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This comment though…
No. 404985
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Baylee's book is on google books now, you can preview pages with a search. I mean again, this is on the publisher and on anyone who buys it - and the publisher obviously isn't going to care about quality, when this shit guarantees sales, etc. but still, it's fucking embarrassing
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I’m honestly still baffled that she got a book deal, her art is shit, her Copic coloring is ok though, but for her to teach fundamentals is just a joke. Why are they calling her a YouTube superstar on her book? I would save that term for someone more well known, say pewdiepie lmaoooo CRINGE
No. 405179
>>404985>"Personally I like to say there are no rules at all"That's something that always rustled my jimmies with her, she will always use the whole -no rules- -art is supposed to be fun- thing as an excuse for her artistic handicaps.
I remember one old vlog where she was complaining about someone commenting she was holding her pencil wrong and giving the whole bullshit speech of "art is supposed to be FUnNnNN".
The faster you learn the rules and learn to take critique, the best for you. Obviously not everything people say is relevant criticism, but if you actually do stuff instead of staying inside your pink bubble you'll be able to judge for yourself what's useful for you and what isn't. Learning the rules before breaking them.
No. 405375
>>405087ugh impact books are well known for ANYONE being able to create an art book… they have the absolute worst art books out there. if she knew anything she wouldnt have published with them, no body takes books by them seriously..
oh. right. its baylee we're talking about so its a perfect match
No. 405379
>>405375 My sides. Halp.
Though I wonder something, how would she react if she found this thread or any other site that didn't kiss her ass?
No. 405382
>>405379I would love if this caused her to shape up honestly. I give her some kudos because she does seem somewhat self aware; she's mentioned in her vlogs numerous times that she feels self conscious about her art ability compared to her peers/number of subs. I guess she hopes that saying it publicly will either prevent people from giving her shit for it, or she'll get enough compliments to convince her she is good enough.
To answer your question, she'd make some tweet about haters to be inspirational to the children and say something dumb and non-committal like "I know I'm bad but I'm having fun and improving at my own pace."
BJ if you see this I have two suggestions: Be honest, and draw more than twice a month
No. 405406
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Baylee and her sister look so different, wonder if they share the same Dad?
No. 406007
>>405642She will probably try to pass a lot of dumb craft activities or stupid challenges as videos… Like she already does.
>>405980I wonder if she wants to make a kid's art channel because she is truly unaware her current channel is already kid level or if she's somewhat trying to get an excuse to keep her current lack of skill and not have people pester her as much because the channel is supposed to be for kids?
No. 406011
>>406007>>406009I checked her sub counts and it really seems her growth has come to a halt, she's been stuck in the middle of 800k subs for a long time
I think her vlog channel didn't grow much either
She's probably failing at attracting new subscribers as well as keeping the old ones. I used to be an avid watcher and now I can't stand her.
No. 406030
>>405257How somebody who has done art for so long cant even manage to bring a single depth or detail into a picture astonishes me.
Everything is flat as cardboard, she cant even be bothered to make the cat look like it has even a single strand of hair, the fishes are just blobs of frankly just one colour.
Get some dimension to your personality and maybe it will show up in your art m8.
No. 406042
>>406030 Like, omg, how dare you give her sound advice! That's just so kind and considerate, because then she might have some decent art. She too good to listen to us lump and prowl.
Lol, in all seriousness though, none of her animals have ascetically pleasing fur texture. It breaks my kokoro.
No. 406077
>>406070Yikes.
Those channels that rely too much on stupid ass challenges for videos should do the put-some-actual-effort-into-your-art challenge
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No. 406228
I used to like this girl, I truly did. I used to watch her daily vlogs, starting from where she was just moving into her current place, because it was interesting watching the daily life of an artist. HOWEVER, I can't help but cringe whenever she stepped foot in that toy room, her office, cat room and storage. How much shit does TWO people need?! She is renting a six bedroom house in one of the most expensive ctities in the world. I can't even fucking fathom how much money she has spent on all of those worthless toys. She also bought a band new car, and not a cheap one either. I don't know why I'm so triggered by this, but its like what if one day YouTube just quits? I doubt it'll happen but what if? She'd be in such a panic, all of those worthless toys wouldn't contribute to her survival. What would she do with all of her crap?
I can only assume she lives in Burnaby/New Westminister so I googled six bedroom houses for rent. I couldnt'd find a six bedroom, but a five bedroom will cost you $3,700 a month.
No. 406383
>>406242>"I miss old Baylee who was humble"same man. There was something so genuinely endearing about her, how she was just a lonely girl in a cramped apartment making the best of her life/hobbies. Anymore she's enjoying life the same way she kind of always has, except now she has no hardships to humble her. She has her husband, no student loans, her dream job, a big house, her cats, what's left to want?
>>406236 iirc she could also afford to pay $1000/month on her student loans. (don't quote me on it though) Good for her I guess but holy shit
No. 406425
>>406422 I'm not super into disney but I feel a franchise that big does have plenty of "adult" merch/decor/activites/etc. Baylee is so cringey because she CHOOSES to be over the top and childish. She could just have her collector dolls and nice stuff like the Mrs. Potts set, but she just gobbles up anything remotely cute
I can't blame her for wanting to go to disneyworld though, shits fun
No. 406430
I absolutely HATE it when Baylee eats while doing her art videos. It's so piggish and unprofessional. There's one video where she eats potato chips but I can't find it right now, however in this one she eats popcorn while painting and I feel the huge urge to reach through the screen and take the bowl away from her.
>>406419>tinfoil Based on her interest in Poppy and especially Melanie Martinez as well as her love for little-kid's toys, her Disney obsession and her childish art style (not to mention that otherkin-esque situation where she identifies as a cat with a bow on her tail) I sometimes wonder if Baylee has a secret thing for ddlg. I know this seems like a huge reach but ever since I started thinking about it I can't get it out of my head.
No. 406434
>>406430 Anon, I feel sick. I remember her mentioning something about her being that cat she talked about in her earlier vlogs, and at the time I didn't think much of it but now omygod. I think some of her childishness might stem from the divorce with her parents and her wanting to recreate a "happy" time in her life when she was young.
But yeah, I would never buy an original from her, even if she improved, because of how she treats her originals. You known the archival qualities are all borked because that greasy food she eats.
No. 406493
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Don’t forget her cat Kiki’s anal juices get all over her original art too!
No. 406498
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Omg love this comment on her new cleaning video!!!
No. 406499
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And of course… queen Baylee replied all snarky
No. 406501
>>406499why does she always have to be so aggressive jfc.
>"Its for all things art related!" You uploaded a video of you cleaning your room and a haul of shit you got at a disney con. I wish she would just say "Sorry I don't want my art channel to be my main focus now" and just upload less often.
No. 406507
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>A grown ass woman flashing her mostly underage fanbase her ass in her tights.
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>a grown ass woman going to forever21 to get an outfit for an internet meme concert
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This was in my recommendations and looking back at her old drawings, I feel like she somehow got worse with the Disney style lol. I mean this isn't exactly the best, but it seems more alive than her recent ones. Am I the only one who thinks this way?
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Trying to play it off like it doesn’t bother her… pffft. She could care less about the opinions of her subscribers, the people that are helping support her by watching her shitty content in the first place.
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>>406567> saw in my local art store someone who wrote “bayleee” on the testerffs
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She’s so freaking stupid. (Regarding the comments on her latest cleaning art video)
No. 406675
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Hahahaha she edited her comment, yeah she spilled lots of hours into sketchbook slam, but those sketches were the shittiest sketches I’ve ever seen.
No. 406680
>>406675>Sketchbook slam was the most difficult and time consuming thing I've ever done for this channelSo you didnt do it to improve or challenge yourself, just to get some videos.
I would argue she would have learned more just from doing three separate copic speedpaint videos than from the sketchbook slam
No. 406690
>>406667These types of responses/tweets just show the type of person she is. I haven't read every single comment on that video, but I can tell its 99% compliments/random questions/firsts/anything thats not "hate"
But "hate" is the only thing she responds to, she doesn't (publically) appreciate the nice comments, but will make a big stink over one person criticizing.
No. 406696
>>406692I actually do see her give the occasional polite response to some kids boring story; or small thank yous for comments like "so pretty!" But I don't think I've ever seen her tweet something like "wow guys I got so many compliments on this video thank you so much!"
I don't know what the "right" way to handle stuff like this is but I feel like her fans would feel more appreciated this way.
It's like there's a really nice person somewhere deep inside Baylee that just occasionally makes contact with the outside world rather than just existing
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Ooohh I found something juicy in the cleaning video
No. 406706
>>406702>>406704Regardless of source I'm dying for a response to this holy shit. I'm secretly praying this comment will lead to something like she cries all night but takes a look at herself and what she's doing and decides to change herself for the better.
What we'll get is "I'm being spread thin"
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Okay hulloalice, no one asked for your opinion
No. 406719
>>406708This same excuse is driving me mad. Wanting creators to put effort into what they do/learn to take criticism; is NOT "youre not making the content i want i want speedpaints waaaahhhh"
Speedpaints are getting used a lot as an example because its the only thing in fuck knows how long that baylee's put effort into
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Pants of Shit is still going
No. 406736
>>406733>1 second agoIt's obvious you are posting your own comments here.
Keep going tho lol
No. 406748
You know this video probably would have went over so much better if she made it as a sort of "behind the scenes" like what its like to clean up after filming an art video.
But no its just her room. Not even her desk where she draws.
>>406734 Pants I feel like you'll be assassinated by tweens within the next day, thanks for taking one for the team
No. 406751
>>406749Childhood trauma, are you sure?
Could this be the reason why she is such a womanchild?
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It has started
No. 406767
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>>406764Pants of Shit is the knight Lolcow deserves.
GO, PANTS OF SHIT, GO!
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>>406379jfc, forgot about her third channel. I think this icon is way worse than her "goofy baylee" one
No. 406779
>>406776they're all just unlisted iirc.
What is she going to do with all the unopened toys now though?
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No. 406889
>>406870I miss this Baylee, she genuinely seemed so nice to talk and interact with.
I really felt bad for her trying to explain it because she seemed so embarrassed by it even in her sketchbook tour video where she read her old story “the little mitten”.
I despise how much her personality has changed
No. 406949
>>406944No. I've been watching here for months. If you seriously think you're a good person yet you sit here on an internet forum and call people ugly, fat, and lazy, then you're delusional. You talk a big game about how Baylee is acting poorly because of money or something but yet you can't see how absolutely hypocritical you all are? You act like your shit doesn't stink except she's out there living her life and providing content to people and you're wasting it away talking shit and bullying someone. I'm sorry, but none of you are good people. Fact. You're all sad pathetic little bullies. I haven't linked this thread to Baylee because I don't want her to see how absolutely shitty and awful you all are to her. But I'm here so let me say, you're all shitty and awful. Every single one of you is worse than Baylee. You're just sitting here acting high and mighty but in all actuality you're all just pretty immature entitled bitches and I'm fucking done with it. Just because someone calls you out for being a bully - which you ARE, doesn't make them a Baylee stan. It makes them an actual compassionate human being. Maybe you should try it sometime, because seriously something is wrong with you guys that you want to spend your free time tearing someone down. It's literally PATHETIC. Grow the fuck up and get out of high school. I'll repeat it again - spending your time being a bitch because you think you're entitled to free content or because someone puts something out online that you don't like makes you a terrible person. Sorry if you can't handle the 'constructive criticism', maybe don't dish it out if you can't take it?
I'm out. ✌️
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>>406957Go kiss her flat ass elsewhere anon.
No. 406980
>>406976Are you actually going to leave this time? or continue to get
triggered whenever we actually talk about how much of a fuck up Baylee is?
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>>406986We have a possibly underaged cow tipper on our hands here, Jellie bee was also linked here
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Umm…yall seen this?
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crap, i forgot the image
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Is this the comment someone was talking about
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When they think they're being funny but are actually triggered af.
No. 407147
>>407097I think this goes to show that as much as some tards come around and want to pinpoint us as a bunch of maniacal bullies, most of us really do just expect people to own up to their mistakes. Not saying we're rainbows either, but if people like Baylee stepped down from her little throne and acted more humble they wouldn't be fueling the hate train as much.
Since she sticks to being a defensive cunt, the hate train keeps on choo-chooing.
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I figured I would save these just in case we needed them, but for reals Alice is just another Baylee with a British accent.
No. 407152
>>407150At least we are lucky enough to be reading that shit on twitter, imagine her chirping a rant with that voice of hers.
Besides being as basic as a pumpking spice latte, she strikes me as such an airhead of the outspoken variety. Always having to blab about everything she sees. For fuck's sake, she had a video where she cried because she liked her dog so much?! Her dog that is alive and well?! What the heck is going on with those grown ass children all around us
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They complain about us not being diplomatic yet they don't give us the same treatment. Being soft with them works against us.
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No. 407177
>>407174 Because a couple of "mean" comments
trigger the shit out of her. She can't handle people not sucking her pingus.
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This honestly looks like preschool level, tops
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>>407182 The smug is making her butt flatter.
No. 407202
>>407185>it is the future, the year is 2032>Youtube was long gone and only mentioned when people were nostalgically having "remember when this was big" chats. She tried going back to conventional 9-5s, but by that time her experience was easily surpassed by her peers who had spent more time paying attention to honing their craft>she sits at a table in her craft room, filled to an uncomfortable extent by her Disney collectibles and half-finished drawings of cats and princesses>Christian gingerly knocks on the door and enters>"d-dear… I've been doing our accounting. I'm r-really sorry, but I don't think we can afford your weekly visit to the Disney store… maybe if you could… please… help out a little bit on the expenses…>Baylee clenches her pencil tightly, turns around>gets up with a gutural groan>clenches Belle statue and throws it at the wall>I DID EVERYTHING I COULD DO, YOU KNOW? BUT PEOPLE ARE UNGRATEFUL. HELL, I DID THE SKETCHBOOK CHALLENGE! 600 -WHOLE PAGES-. PEOPLE ACTING LIKE IT WASN'T ENOUGH. It was hilarious, THEY'RE HILARIOUS!>laughs maniacally, bulged eyes and spit flying around>Christian quietly closes the door, careful not to bump on her mobility scooter>sits on the couch, thinks>"what went wrong? I always saw so much potential in her…" No. 407226
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This line of thinking is what usually makes people fail in life.
No. 407262
Um, hello there… This is Hullo Alice. I saw this place mentioned in the comments and googled it.
I'm not really sure if I even want to respond here, because there's some really ugly stuff in this thread, but I guess I'll address a couple things since I'm being brought up… I hope I did the sage thing right.
Things that have been said about me personally:
I know my voice is super annoying. I'm sorry. I've always been very self conscious about it, but it is what it is. I might try subtitling my videos in the future so people can watch them more easily muted, but it's just my voice. It's actually one of the biggest reasons I was scared to start a channel, so yeah. I know it's annoying.
Crying about my dog - yeah, it sounds kinda silly. But my dog literally saved me from committing suicide. I've been suicidally depressed on and off my entire life and have made multiple attempts to take my own life in the past. I got December when I was experiencing one of the worst depressive episodes of my life, and as such I have a really strong emotional bond with her.
Me being basic - yup, I'm SUPER basic. I like Taylor Swift, Starbucks, Ugg Boots & Candles. That's okay by me. I also like lots of other things. I don't find it an insult, but I don't like pumpkin spice latte's, coffee tastes bad imo. I like hot chocolate instead :) I like to say I'm like, 25% basic, 25% nerd, 25% small child and 25% hipster.
For the person that said I haven't been uploading as many speed paints recently - I totally hear you. I've been in a weird place with my art where I'm sick of drawing these same basic "pretty girl facing forward cartoon" artwork. It all just looks the same and I hate it, it's the easy way out and I'm just, ugh, i'm not inspired by it and it's not pushing me. So basically, I've been wanting to make more detailed thought out pieces that I can put more time into, but I've not had the time to actually get them done in a week (I also work a full time job.), and it's resulted in not a lot of speed paints at all. I'm hoping to do something bigger and more complex for YTAC and have been filming ahead to hopefully have more time to do it! So speedpaints may become rarer on my channel but I'm hoping they will be higher quality, we'll see. I tend to default to the easy way out a lot, it's one of my biggest flaws.
My defense/response of Baylee/the incident -
I feel like I started out pretty calm, but I definitely got more and more angry. I'm also more uncensored on my twitter. I'm not sure my response was 100% rational, so I'm trying to step away from the situation, but I do think that the way people expressed themselves in Baylees comments was pretty harsh. I was pretty heavily bullied growing up, so I can be oversensitive to things like that, especially towards a friend. It's something that has always really really upset me and set me off. It has nothing to do with wanting to be Baylee, but I just hurt when I see things like that, I'm overly empathetic. I understand that you guys have problems with her, but she has always been so kind and lovely to me. She has helped me out a lot even though I'm much smaller than her, and I've personally seen her work so hard at her channel. I just am not sure you all fully understand how time consuming art videos are to create, and that can be really frustrating from a creator perspective. So while I do think I probably kneejerked a little too hard and got too aggressive & angry on twitter, and that's never helpful for good conversation, I do stand by my original opinion - you'll get further without calling people names. And if you guys hate me for that, or don't like me because of it, well, that's okay.
I'm instinctively a people pleaser and I've always tried to get everyone to like me, but that's just not possible. I KNOW I'm not everyone's cup of tea. I'm going to kill myself constantly trying to get everyone to like me or be happy with me, it's just not possible. For those that legitimately do miss Baylee's speedpaints and aren't trying to be mean or rude and just miss seeing that work, I just think saying so in a nicer way would get you further, that's just how humans work. Most people respond better to kindness than anger. And that's advice that I should take myself as well - I try really hard to be a kind, nice, compassionate person, but when my anger gets the best of me, it gets bad. My anger got the best of me with this situation, because the situation really, really upset me. I have actually struggled with anger issues through much of my life, and have worked on them in therapy for years. I'm not perfect at controlling it, but I'll try harder to express myself better. I'll work more on stepping away from situations and working to express my opinions in a more tactful manner when I'm really angry - but you still might disagree with my opinions on the subject. That's okay. We don't have to agree, but I do think it's important for all of us - me in cluded - to consider the way we phrase things, especially online where tone is harder to communicate.
I think it's easy to forget that there's someone on the other side of the screen reading all this stuff, and calling someone lazy or ugly or fat, body shaming them, making fun of them, being cruel.. that's just hurtful, it's not productive. It might make you feel better but it's not going to help anything, and I think deep down we all know that. Even when I called people "entitled assholes" I knew deep down that wasn't going to get my point across, and it wasn't helpful. So, don't you think that body shaming someone or calling them names, well that's going to work against you guys as well. No one is going to listen to you when your criticism is mixed in with body shaming and name calling… Ultimately you never know what someone is going through, and I know I don't ever want to be the catalyst for someone hurting themselves, which is why I wanted to post here, since I did get pretty angry on twitter, and judging from the fact that someone tweeted me alluding to this place & her tweet is posted almost verbatim here, some of you clearly interacted with me there. For my part, I will work harder to be a positive example, and if I see things that I think are mean and rude, I will try to lead with kindness, instead of anger, as I think I'll get further that way anyway.
I apologise if this isn't allowed. I'm not really posting this here to fight or argue or whatever, but since you guys are discussing me/my response, I decided to address it, idk, take it as you will. I also saw that Jellie Bee had addressed some stuff in that other thread so hopefully its ok.
No. 407289
>>407262If you came here in hopes that whatever you said would make people have some movie scene-ish reflection, looking outside at the rain and thinking about how we really should just love each other and stop the hate… you're in for disappointment.
"Hate" is always going to exist, and the best thing we can do is just accept it and let it run its course until it extinguishes itself. It is part of life and it has its place. Trying to suffocate it with forced positivity only leads to disaster.
You and whatever army defending Baylee are not going to change our opinion about her until she stops acting like a spoiled queen. I know you probably wish to defend everybody, because "muh injustice" but the thing is… Sometimes things are just best left alone. Putting yourself in the fire for Baylee didn't help her, it only sinked you and made you look like a brown nosed suck up. Or if you really felt it was a necessity to defend Baylee, act with less impulse. Blabbing nonstop and being emotionally driven only invalidates what you say, because it makes you look stupid.
Just keep in mind this is a forum inhabited by many people, so each of these people have different motivations to be here.
I'll end this post saying I have no real intention of hurting your feelings. I simply feel extremely suffocated by the ways "mainstream" places push sensitivity down our throats and censors things "becuz someone's feelings", so I need somewhere where I can just say "fuck these faggots".
No. 407295
I came here and posted my response to clarify some things, address some of the stuff that was said about me, and discuss my reaction. You're right, I doubt people's minds will change. You're free to feel however you would like about me, but at least I've responded and you've heard directly from me. And if even one person does change their mind about the way they address people online, that would be really freaking cool. But i definitely don't expect that to happen. If people change, it'll be because they want to, not because someone gave an impassioned speech about kindness. I'm just a long winded kind of person.
I've also heard what you've said, and it's a reminder to me to learn to control my responses better in the future. Don't worry, my feelings aren't hurt. I mean, it's always hard to see people talking about you and such, don't get me wrong. But I'm working on accepting that not everyone will like me. When I put myself out on the internet, I knew eventually someone would really just be bothered by me, and as my channel started growing it got more and more inevitable. It's kinda scary but at least it's happened now, and I'm okay, I'll still be here making videos and trying to be the best person I can be, and that's all I can do :)
I've said my piece and as I said I"m not here to argue or try to change your minds, I just wanted to respond to the things that were said about me.
@ the jesus christ person - I know, really it's a miracle I have friends!
No. 407301
>>407297It's the issue I bet the grand majority of us have. We would probably either ignore her abysmal lack of artistry or be satisfied by the occasional "I don't get how someone that bad gets that amount of subs" comment.
It is her bitch ass attitude that fuels everyone. Accepting criticism is a MUST in art. The fact that she acts as if people are wrong when it's PAINFULLY OBVIOUS for anyone who isn't preschool level that her shit looks wrong (like Plum Horse) is borderline ridiculous.
No. 407308
>>407262I'm the person who talked about your voice. I thought I should add it's not necessarily your voice alone, but the way you speak. It's not something you have to be completely stuck with, as there are ways and exercises to train your diction.
I'm not saying this as an insult, you just mentioned being really self conscious and I don't want you to think you're just stuck with something forever, keeping it the way it is should be a choice you make to accept it and not something you feel you're stuck it and obligated to accept.
No. 407311
It's my vocal fry right? how my voice goes up at the end of a sentence? Yeah :/ I AM trying to work on it, actually. I was filming a voice over for work, and I tried to suppress it where I could, but I also try to sound natural in my voiceovers, so it's a tough balance to strike. I'll keep working on it :) I don't mind having a bit of vocal fry but I know it's very obvious, especially in my older videos, and it's hard to see comments that say things like "your voice hurts my ears," so yeah, it would be nice to not have to see that as much haha.
This was good constructive criticism, by the way, and I appreciate it! I am actually very sensitive to voices myself, so I understand having a hard time watching/listening to people because of it. (for me it's lip smacking.) Anyway, I don't want to derail this, but yeah, I will keep working!
No. 407317
>>407311Yeah the vocal fry is true. I am very sensitive to what they call "the valley girl" way of speaking.
If you keep working on it I'm sure you can achieve your goal.
Just a tip, don't use emoticons, they're against the rules here and can get you banned.
No. 407337
>>407311 I used to speak very softly but after people started telling me they had problems hearing me and it started to affect my school performance, I started practicing speaking louder to a webcam. It was kinda weird, since I felt I was yelling but over time I got used to it. I hope that you achieve the results you want, just like with art, hard work and dedication will get you far. Also, I'm actually pretty excited to see what direction your art is going in, since mentioned above that your trying to branch out.
I'm not trying to whitenight just figured I'd say something.
No. 407425
My beef with Baylee is that lately she seems to be putting less effort in her videos, yes sketchbook slam was challenging but the sketches in my honest opinion were not of quality and just a means to pump out lazy videos. Obviously it’s her choice but I know she is capable of better content, her highest rated videos were good tutorials. When was the last time she did that? Now she resorts to gluing art supplies to her face, cleaning, skillshare crap and inktober drama for clickbait. Seems she’s throwing out the easiest content just for a quick buck and her subscribers opinion means nothing to her. Look I’ve been watching since zkittyz, I’m a looongggg time subscriber, I watched her at a little over a thousand subs in. I’ve seen a dramatic change, for the worst. She is so self centered, has an attitude problem and any opinion that is different from hers she makes a stink about. She’s on a high horse looking down on people. The ones who comment nice things on her videos she never acknowledges or even says a simple thank you. She’s just gotten too big for her britches and the white knight stans don’t help. Being honest, she does not deserve the following she has. There are more humble artists on YouTube than her and with way less subs. With the way it’s going her channel is going to tank. She should just be a full time game streamer.
Oh and hulloalice you can’t deny you wouldn’t be doing YouTube if you weren’t being paid. Yes youtubers aren’t owned by subscribers but it is courtesy to at least give thought to what they are saying, complaint or otherwise. Without them, your viewers, your channels would be NOTHING and your bills would not be paid by YouTube. Ads are part of that but views make up a lot of that too. I was rolling my eyes when I saw your tweets and thought it was ridiculous that you wouldn’t consider your subscribers/audiences thoughts on your content. Again this is a reflect of Baylee mostly but your comments on Twitter coincided with it as well. Look at it from a different perspective, the watchers perspective!
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This give anyone inspiration to do some edits?
No. 407430
>>407262hey hulloalice
thank you for giving a little more explanation on your stance. I think this entire website is more about venting and saying whatever comes to mind first, which is why there are so many negative comments on her weight or her face. I think these are underserved as she isn't very overweight or ugly, but people say a bunch of fucked up shit under the security of anonymity.
As another person said, this isn't going to bring most people who post on here to a "come to Jesus" moment. There will always be people who are cruel, and whiteknighting is pretty milky. I don't think this will stop people from treating Baylee as a cow.
A lot of people (including me) don't how Baylee handles criticism, or even people who critique without being rude. She'll
>>407262bitch about a few people who say something not positive and ignore all the positivity that her fans shower her with. Of course she won't be able to say "thanks!' to every individual comment, but it would probably go a long way if she'd stop giving milk so easily by just ignoring people who are being genuinely hateful. That's kind of what I was trying to get at on twitter earlier, but 140 characters isn't enough to try to convey something.
You seem like a good person and I hope you will keep directing your kindness to people who will listen.
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Miss Baylee thinks it comedy. Let’s see how hard she’s laughing when her views plummet even further down.
No. 407447
>>407440 Now
that would be funny, especially since she would most likely be in denial about it.
No. 407469
>>407182This is something that kinda made me angry when I watched her sketchbook challenge. She reminded me of my first year of art school where we had to complete several pages of sketchbook a week and we'd try to get out of it sometimes by making huge drawings and trying to fill a ton of pages at once.
This challenge is for YOURSELF. It's not there to skip and be lazy, what's the point if you don't take it seriously ? It's not a challenge to waste paper but to improve, if you don't get into seriously just don't do it or accept that you couldn't 100% complete it and that's not a bad thing in itself !
And watching Holly and Baylee it's clear how both of them don't know what a sketchbook is supposed to look like. It shouldn't be 70% blank. It should be messy, sometimes ugly, most of the pages filled out, different techniques tried not just lead pencil and ballpoint (unless you're doing dedicated sketchbook then why not). Observation should be made if possible by real life, not just books ! Go outside baylee, go to the aquarium, plan a date to the park and draw ! No wonder she never improve, she doesn't put the tiniest effort to get out of her comfort zone and all the challenges she does never really "challenge" her style or technique.
/end of drawfag rant
No. 407625
hey guys, Hullo Alice again. This will likely be my last post as I don't want to derail this thread further, but I wanted to address some last comments that came up after I left last night, mainly the one about "you can't deny you wouldn't be doing youtube if you weren't being paid." Now I know that this relates more to Baylee than me but because you specifically addressed me as well, I wanted to respond, at least for ME.
I just wanted to let you know that for me personally, and for a good chunk of artists in YTAC I would guess, that's 100% not true. So youtube isn't my job, and it DOESN'T pay my bills. I work a full time job as a motion graphics designer, that pays my bills (barely haha). Youtube is extra money, and I put pretty much all of it towards a loan I have, sometimes I use a little for spending. It's not even factored into my budget; if i earned $0 from YouTube that month I would probably have to spend less money on pizza, but that's it. Also, I don't earn a lot from youtube at all - sometimes I have really really good months, which I am super SUPER grateful for, but most of the time I earn between $100-$300 a month, or $20-$50 a video. That's still a decent chunk of money, but when I put in 30 hours a week, it's not even minimum wage. I could earn a LOT more if I waitressed nights again on top of my regular job, instead of doing youtube videos. Even during my good months, I would earn more waitressing a few nights a week than spending almost all my free time making videos. Over the late spring & most of the summer my earnings were so low I almost didn't hit the payout threshold some months ($100). I'm not saying I do youtube selflessly - the feedback and views and comments of so many people is honestly like, amazing to see. But it's MUCH more abut my audience than it is about the money. I also want to clarify that I personally DO try to consider my subs/audience - I have tried to create content especially recently that seems to go over well with them, that's why you may have seen more sketchbook videos, more art advice videos, and more challenge videos, because those tend to do better with my audience. I actually have a whole list of subscriber suggestions to make into videos. BUT I also have to be creating content I like and content i want to create, or else it's pointless - like i'm not going to spend all my free time on something I hate doing, you know? My audience keeps asking for an anatomy tutorial and it's not happening, period. I can't do it - I'm not good enough, I'm not qualified to teach it, and I don't want to make it, so it's not happening no matter how much they want it. So basically it's about balancing what my audience wants and what i want, and trying new things, and seeing how they do, that kind of stuff. But please, please believe me when I say I'm not doing youtube to be paid. The first couple years i was on youtube I didn't get paid, or got paid like one every 4 months. I never expected to earn much if anything from it. That was NEVER my plan or goal. If i wanted to earn money, I probably would have created a makeup channel, not art - statistically they have a higher ad sense rate and a more engaged audience, so you can earn more at a smaller level. I know you said it was a reflection of baylee but since you said my comments coincided with it as well I wanted to address me PERSONALLY - trust me, i'm not doing Youtube for money. I could make a lot more, doing something much easier, using a lot less time. If I ever gave up YT it would be because I literally couldn't AFFORD to do it any more, and needed the time to work more IRL. (or because I lost my passion for it) I also don't plan on ever being a full time youtuber, though I'd love to be a full time freelancer.
For everyone else who responded to me, thank you for your responses and for listening to what I had to say. I hope you guys like the direction I want my art to take, sorry if things take longer because of it. I will keep trying to be a good person and being kind, even in the face of things I disagree with - that's who I want to be and while I never intended to be a rolemodel, ultimately I know i ended up as one for a lot of kids that watch my channel - I want them to see me being a kind, positive person, even when faced with negativity, and I will strive to continue doing that, and pushing myself to create the best content I can. I know I'm not a perfect artist, but I want to get better and better. If anyone has any serious critique for my channel that they really want to be heard, instead of just venting out (which I can understand, I'm a total venter myself), I won't be checking back here as I'm such a people pleaser I'll end up pulled in a thousand different directions, but you're welcome to send me a tweet or twitter message.
i'm gonna stop derailing the damn thread now & "go back to my damn lane," pumpkin spice latte & all. haha!
No. 407745
>>407708I have a feeling it will be too hard for kids to follow along to..
Also I like how she mentions teaching them to use shapes and rough sketches to draw yet she doesn’t do that….Baylee tends to draw in a pencil and use a light box to copic over
No. 407763
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An original master piece that perfectly captures her salmon face
No. 407796
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The face she makes when she buys more art supplies she won't use.
No. 407818
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Why does she always have the damn cats on her desk, it’s hella annoying when she lets them cover half the art in her videos. She got hella salty when I called her out on it some months ago.
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Also pisses me off that she never brushes or grooms her cats. Kiki always has loose fur/dander or dandruff flakes all over her black coat. As a cat owner myself it upsets me, contrary to popular belief cats should be groomed often, but Baylee likes to be dirty apparently.
No. 407829
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>like omg how dare you question my idiotic behavior! I'm sooooo special because I shit out "art" videos all da time and have a bOOk cuming out soon! I can let my cats to what ever I want cause the world revolves around ME!!!! I'M NUMBER 1 U CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO CAUSE I'M BAILEY JAY! I'm da bestest artist ever and I bully the shit out of those who tell me the truth, cause the truth is for those that can afford to go to disneyland every other day! U ALL SHEEEEEP.
No. 407853
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>>407802Baylee art book page leak
No. 407857
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I’m surprised these aren’t the sheets Baylee and Christian have in their room.
No. 407872
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Those extra chins.
No. 407876
>>406508Her hair is what
triggers me the most. It's flat, thin and an ugly uneven color. She needs a haircut, maybe dying her hair a darker shade. Just do something besides brushing it in the morning, if you're going on camera, ffs.
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Lol at the tweet Baylee retweeted, so she is afraid of failing….
No. 407985
>>407980 I see your point and it makes sense. As someone who's lived in a large city and didn't care for it, I guess I tend to not think very highly of them.
>>407984 My life's philosophy and I wish more people would follow that. Question is, does she even save for retirement?
No. 408000
>>407969Tori has a great artist mentality. It was a pity to me when I stopped following her because I could absolutely not stand her giggly voiceovers, but I'm glad she seems to be cutting back on that lately and sounding a bit more mature, I find myself going back to her videos more and more.
Sage for off topic.
No. 408015
>>408008She studied Illustration at Ringling.
Yeah, I can't help but notice a lot of Youtubers went for animation rather than design or illustration.
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A Hahahaha this one is funny and true
No. 408060
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Her new eyebrows make her look so bitchy, she looked so sweet and innocent before
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CRINGE
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No. 408239
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Apparently she doesn’t think so…
No. 408240
>>408204In the video she says that she won't post videos when shes on "vacation" because "why even try?"
She didn't try on the cleaning video. That's what people have a problem with.
No. 408266
>>408219I love how she had to make a great big story out of tracing this "cute" shark.
This whole video, who caaaaaares BJ, wkooooooooo
No. 408307
>>408273>her level of skill is standard for Canadian animation housesDude, not true.
Sage for being offtopic
No. 408327
>>408064That's not true. Her sketchbook slam challenge was crappy because 600 pages in 30 days is overkill and she was using it to make boring video content, but sketchbooks are a place for imperfect studies, repetition and lots of ugly ass sketches. In fact, Baylee's previous habit of trying to make everything a finished piece and not keeping a sketchbook for loose drawings was one of her biggest problems.
People who make those beautiful sketchbooks usually also keep side sketchbooks for the less glamorous sketches. They just don't tend to parade it around as much.
I don't think the Sketchbook Slam was a loss either for someone who doesn't sketch at all, if she kept the habit of sketching frequently it would be a lot of progress.
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What other events besides streaming games and buying more shit?
No. 408434
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And how well has that worked for Baylee? lul
No. 408439
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What do you think?
No. 408449
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Sorry this made me lol
No. 408508
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Oh my freaking God I finally found it! There's more but this was the one I remember
No. 408585
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No. 408630
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That thumbnail though
No. 408882
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There's something about the values that isn't appealing. Or it could just be the freaky ass body that doesn't make sense.
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No. 408966
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I rest my case that Baylee is a fucking bully. This was in response to people telling her the "do this not this" thumbnail looked similar to another YouTuber.
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She got hard copies of her book in, prepare for the annoying plug ins and pushing to buy her art book
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LMAOOOO I can’t, this pose tutorial is hilarious “take photos of yourself, look up stock images online” so helpful Baylee, soooo helpful Hahahaha
No. 409072
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No need to have children because you are a child…
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Who's gonna pay 22.99 plus shipping for this. If it comes to barnes and nobles or michaels, I can't wait to flip through it and see what kind of nonsense she has in here lol
No. 409078
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I can't even right now. I'm laughing so hard at this comment
No. 409110
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>>408882>>408958Man, this is worse than i thought. And she wants to teach kids? Please Baylee, educate yourself first.
No. 409249
>>409139thanks for doing that. The differences are bigger than I thought now that I see them so close together. She honestly is terrible if she doesn't understand why the shoulders are completely different and hers are spine-injuring wrong.
In her latest vlog - as she waits outside the Disney store for childrens toys - she literally says, "I mean, I have nothing better to do. I might as well come here". So much for being a super hard working artist, right guys?
Is anyone familiar with those photoshopped images where they take kanye West, Kim Kardashian, and Beyonce, and make them look overweight and less attractive? I was watching an old Shakira video (give it up to me), and now I think Baylee looks like a fat, moonhead, less attractive Shakira XD (Sorry shakira).
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Omg she actually thanked her subscribers lol
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No. 409268
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This review is GOLDEN!!!
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No. 409443
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It appears the gossip bakery also doesn't like her lol.
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Why does she let the cats lay all over her art in videos? It’s hella annoying
No. 410043
>>409912It bothers the living crap out of me when her (and other artists) let their cats freely roam around their professional watercolors and artist materials. Not for the watercolors, but for the fact that a few colors contain toxic materials. Not enough for you to be afraid of using them, but you should be at least not a total slob while messing with them (no ingesting or letting it touch wounds), and if your cat steps on your Cadmium or Cobalt colors, it's likely that the cat will end up licking its paws and ingesting the Cadmium/Cobalt/whatever it is.
Remember, people, either put your stuff away after using it or make sure your pets can't access your work area. Saves you money from all the crap they can break and, most importantly, keeps them from the possible dangers. DON'T BE SHEEP!1!!@
No. 410108
>>410068Professional art supplies are not toys. Some of them should not be handled carelessly. I heard from people who drank paint thinner and didn't suffer any apparent damage from it, yet you have people who left their thinner laying around, their dog drank it and died (heard the dog story in Lisa Lachri's channel).
Supposedly, a lethal dose of cadmium would be 0.86 per kilo. It would be quite a bunch of paint to kill a regular sized human, especially if you consider the fact that paint is not completely composed of pigment, but consider the weight of cats or other smaller animals. Not to mention cadmium accumulates in the body. And art supplies are not our only exposure to cadmium, so add that to the equation.
>Don't know where you're getting this information fromIf you go anywhere beyond the most basic art videos, you'll hear people talking about it a few times.
I recommend the Spin Doctor's video on "How toxic are watercolor paints really", that's where I took some of my info from. Essentially he talks about how you shouldn't really be afraid of using art supplies because of cadmium and other substances, but still mentions you shouldn't be very careless around them. Know what you are using.
Sage for fairly off-topic, but I always like to mention those things because I think they are not mentioned enough (or at all) on the popular side of art Youtube.
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She went to the super Mario odyssey launch dressed like this. They had a costume contest. Uhhh…
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>>410162lmfao this comment. At least her viewers know that she's lazy
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This thread is golden.
No. 410188
>>410074>>410043I don't lock my kitties out of my room when I work, but they know by not to not be up on my desk and in my stuff when I'm working because I've shooed them off the desk enough times. IDK maybe my guys are just really well behaved…?
Even if the chemicals present in paint are too small to be harmful to them, cat hair is still a bitch to get out of watercolour, and I'd rather just not have that around. I'm surprised BJ doesn't have the issue of getting cat hair in her paints/on her paintings tbh because her cats are everywhere.
>>409267>>409268This is beautiful. So many good points in this review. Thanks for sharing.
OT but why tf is there a book about "how to make your adult colouring pages POP"? What is wrong with this world that adult colouring has become that important that you need a howto book on it?
No. 410248
>>410162when she was giving the build up to 'who I DO recommend' I was thinking 'just don't say Holly ffs'…
oh well
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>>410307Baylee is such a fucking dumbass.
She even adressed the issue with the awkward looking body because of the onesie and said she added a butt pocket to help solve the problem yet she positioned it completely off even though there is a clearly visible butt pocket on the reference model. Why didn't she use the same perspective? How dense is she?
By changing the pocket and the seams of the onesie she could easily solve the off-looking body.
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The foreshortning excuse is in full swing.
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This is what I thought. Ppl are ripping her in the comments on her anatomy lol
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The same damn excuses!
No. 410520
>>410495I doubt that not using copics for a month will diminish her low skills.
I lose respect for the artists in that comments section that pitch in with the same excuses to defend Baylee. How can these people be so blind
No. 410526
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I'm sorry, these made me laugh. Fam, this is a prime example of ya'll being incapable of accepting that Baylee is shit at drawing.
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So apparently having an editor do their job has emotionally impacted Baylee to not practice and make cleaning videos. I shit you not.
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So apparently we are Baylee's biggest fans?
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>>407202Who else spotted future Christian in Stranger Things tonight?
Sorry Christian
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Apparently to criticize Baylee and voice why is unhealthy.
No. 410670
>>410162True but this girl (and these types of videos) are also hella cringy
And you can't really take people who paint Holly Brown as a good artist seriously
No. 410674
>>410671Not to defend Baylee, but I think it's relevant to mention that Twitch is slowly becoming a more reliable form of online work than Youtube, with the heavy censorship and all. It's basically where the market is heading.
Wouldn't kill her to livestream art related content tho. But honestly, at this point I feel she fits in better as a game streamer than art streamer. She's slowly morphing into an incompetent crafter mom
No. 410708
>>410697Right now yes, but after the whole Adpocalypse ordeal a lot of people got a wake up call from putting all their eggs in one basket.
Altho she has been doing Twitch streams long before that, she may just do it for entertainment/interacting with her audience.
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Classic example of how Baylee doesn’t like criticism. This was on her get ready with me vlog
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I'm getting second hand embarrassment from this
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Christian is not impressed
No. 410890
>>410792she went outside, in public, in a onesie.
damn, this is so cringey.
>>410794d'you think he just realized he's -married- to her now and can't just run off?
No. 410952
>>410942Yeah, his "manga" style is a bit wonky, but he has a much wider repertoire than Baylee, can draw scenery and has experience as an illustrator and comic book artist, so it makes more sense to ask him to make a book like that. From what I remember his videos had quite a bit of sound advice + emphasis on studying and practicing often.
I'm mostly wondering if Baylee is the only "YouTube artist" to get a book.
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The legs are too short for the upper half and haha those feet…
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I think she's just going to live in these onesies forever to its last thread of string
No. 411229
>>411212If you're only buying one box out of the four they have every year, it's not a bad price for all the stuff you get, especially if you're into cute stuff. A lot of people release box spoilers so you know what you're getting, so you don't waste money if it's junk you don't want.
Sage for no1curr
No. 411252
>>411231>still experiencing flashbacks to her poll dancing in that onesiebrrrrrr.
I find it weird that she has so much, er, more mature stuff on her channel but it's also full of very kid-like topics. I think she put a disclaimer on her bachelorette party vid but seriously, that's not gonna stop anyone from watching. And she was piss-drunk and there were dicks everywhere in that one.
What is she doing. She could target her content more for a younger audience and fit in her Disney obsession, but then she also mentions more mature topics -like alcohol- and poledances in a onesie (wtfff). Also, all that focus on her marriage? bleeergh.
tl;dr it's infuriating that someone with so much "power" doesn't take any "responsibility"
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This comment on her book video
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No. 411313
>>411273Damn, it's rough to have even your fans think so.
>>411012Right, I forgot about her, Sophie is such a sweetheart though. At a baseline, most of these "How to draw x according to y" books are all useless bullshit anyway, but most 12 year olds wouldn't want to pick up a Bridgman or use photo reference so I guess it works for the intended audience.
No. 411380
>>411075This is such a tryhard attempt at trying to look like she knows what she's talking about. Those 'volumes' in the body that look off and apparently follow the curve of the body, but then the volumes for the feet have straightened out lines.
Also the text above the bodies which just cuts off mid sentence and then continues in the paragraph next to it. At least end the text on the left with a sentence and then start a new one in the right paragraph.
I also don't know if that's a stain on the bottom left, or a fancy ~water color~ effect which is such a tacky way to make your lay-out appear more classy. Looks cheap. This book is so obviously a product made to sell, she did not care to make a quality product.
No. 411503
>>411483The thought of not progressing really is terrifying. I wonder what's really up with Baylee. She gives me the vibe that she doesn't really want to be an artist, then keeps making all sorts of excuses like "I don't have time", "it's foreshortening" or just straight out saying she doesn't want to draw more.
Or maybe her mentality of "everyone who draws anything is an artist" makes her think her low level is totally acceptable, paired with the fact that there are a lot of people who actually buy her products.
No. 411971
>>411755Yes anon, no one in their late 20s ever gets drunk or hungover, only Baylee, the dumb slag.
Some of you are reaching way too hard, including
>>411603 .
No. 412130
>>411971I think people judge her getting piss drunk because it looks very odd in contrast to her childish behavior.
But I'll have to agree, when the subject deviates too much from her terrible art decisions/asshole behavior into her personal relationships and her looks, it gets pretty boring. Also not the keenest on people getting too hardcore into policing the way she spends her money because a lot of the times it just sounds like people got the jellies. It's one thing to mention how she gets too carried away with the toy purchases or whatever, but some of you give so many fucks it sounds like you're her personal accountants.
No. 412361
>>412196Maybe, but imo the nitpicking makes all of the justified criticism of her seem less credible by association/easier to dismiss.
>"Oh, they're just hating on her!! Poor Baylee :(("Clutching your pearls over a grown adult getting drunk is hardly pointing out her hypocrisy.
No. 413113
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I thought she sold this but her mum is posting about framing it on twitter?
Did her mum buy it???
No. 413139
>>413113It's probably just a print. Her family seems to contribute a lot to her shop sales considering how many prints and phonecases they have of hers.
I wouldn't mind but that is one of her absolute worst imo.
No. 413160
>>413108jfc. imparting the tyranny of 'you must ink every drawing' to little kids.
I know it's tradition, comics, whatever, but I'm sick of everyone on youtube telling us the ONLY acceptable way to draw is pencil, ink outline, colour in.
sage for ridiculous bee in my bonnet
No. 413168
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No. 413184
>>412931She said in the reaction video that it was a comedy skit (which is pretty obvious) but it made her look like a bitch, bailey has a awful personality sometimes but thats just reaching
sage
No. 413267
>>413168>Highlights>Basic art term…Excuse me but what age are you catering to? I didn't know what highlights were until I was serious about art at 15-16. And even THEN I didn't use the term until I was older.
Highlights aren't a basic art term and children may be confuse highlights with highlighters. Has she never been around a child before???
No. 413295
>>413168Time to teach kids "contrapposto" since that's a basic art term, too.
I'm glad that it's common to hear professional artists cite really shitty artists like Mark Crilley or Rob Liefeld as their introduction to drawing because it would fucking suck if some kid's drawing ability was handicapped by Bailey's approach to art.
No. 413299
>>413295That makes me think of when Baylee, Jazza and Mark Crilley made a collab and it was basically a reunion of the most popular artist hacks of Youtube.
I feel kind of bad for talking shit about Jazza because he seems pretty nice, but his coloring/rendering skills are pretty bad. I stayed away from his channel for some time because I hated his mascot so much. The color he chose for the skin still makes me scream internally.
Sage for autistic sperging
No. 413318
>>413108>Overlap>Oval>Highlight>MoonOkay first, how will a child know what overlapping is? BAYLEE EXPLAIN TO THESE CHILDREN. I may be grasping at straws but I don't children of her target age group know what an oval is yet? You don't really learn about shapes until a little later.
Should have explained what a highlight was.
Okay when you say moon, a child (and myself) thinks of an entire moon or a circle. So explain it as a crescent moon? I've looked through a younger cousin's homework, he's in first grade, and he was actually taught what a crescent moon was.
>Monotone/Not caring voiceReally doesn't make kids want to keep watching.
>SLOW AS HECK LINEART AND COLORINGKids these days when they watch videos, I know this from experience, they want to be entertained. If a video is too slow paced, they get bored and just hit something in the recommended instead.
>"Subscribe for more"Dear lord. I'm pretty sure kids don't know what subscribe means, nor do they have accounts with which to subscribe with. Half the time it's the parents who subscribe to it.
Speaking from a person who's been living around children all the time, that are not even my own but family members, I can already tell that no child is going to sit through and follow this as much as Baylee thinks they will.
Her voice is just too boring, too slow, too uncaring - it's not going to keep a child's attention at all. I was getting frustrated watching her line the shark because she was going so slowly it was making me antsy. Basically my thoughts were "OKAY I GET IT JUST FINISH THE LINE ALREADY" And I'm sure children will think so too, if they haven't already clicked away.
My advice for Baylee:
If you really want to start a channel teaching children to draw: Take some child development classes. There are programs specifically geared towards how to teach children art, enroll in an online class or go to one at your local college! If this is something you're passionate about, teaching art, learn how to do it the RIGHT way.
If not and you just want more viewer money then by all means, keep going and see how many children actually watch your content for more than 20 seconds.
No. 413325
>>413323Because there are a ton of kids to mooch off viewership money from?
Or she could just want to teach children how to draw.
To which I would suggest instead of making a channel, actually take teaching classes and become an art teacher for children or something. Ya know, if she REALLY wants to help.
No. 413350
>>413318You sad everything I was thinking. I watched her video from the point of view of a person who didn't know how to draw, and what irritated me was the fact that she didn't explain things better. Why are drawing it this way? Why are we overlapping? What is a highlight? A child needs things broken down more. Yes, children tend to be smarter than we think they are, but they still things to be broken down into bite size nuggets of information they can understand.
And omg the pacing with this thing. I took felt frustrated with how much time she was taking to line and color the thing. And it was so monotone and without any life. A kid will get bored of this quickly and go fine How To Draw Cute instead. I know I would.
I think whoever said she'd get 20 videos up was right, they are being very generous. I don't see more than 10 once she sees it's not going anywhere. I don't dislike the gal, I just don't think she fully thought this whole children's drawing channel out really.
No. 413420
>>413225the theme is Grimm's fairy tales right? It'll be a pretty girl probably. Something there was also a Disney film of. Cinderella's my bet. Snow White or Rapunzel maybe.
what's certain is it'll be shite, and sell immediately for hundreds of dollars, and I will get more grey hairs
No. 413443
>>413386that's so cute and tons better
sageing
No. 413600
>>413108>>413386It's like night and day! He sounds so much nicer and explains it in a way that you WANT to draw with him. Even when the little boy messed up, which children tend to get really self conscious when they do, he said "I like it!" And that just made me smile because it showed how much he enjoyed just seeing a child learn.
He didn't use any fancy terms like highlight, no, he explained it in a way that a CHILD would be able to learn - in basic shapes and words.
Baylee, if you continue using phrases a child doesn't know, they're just going to get frustrated and maybe even stop drawing completely! A child's self esteem is really tender at this age, you cant just tell them to draw for fun because they don't understand what that really is yet. YOU are what makes art fun, they will love art based on how they learned it. The kid in the second video was so happy with his finished piece even though it didn't look like the man's, because the guy praised him so much about it. And now he's probably going to bug him about drawing more things, learning more things, because it's fun!
It goes to show that if you haven't been around children or have a child yourself - you don't know how to act around them.
Does anyone know if Baylee has experience with children? Because I'm flabbergasted on her decision to teach children to draw.
No. 413630
>>413108My guess is she wanted to make a children's channel because she thought it was easy and she could just use what she already had in terms of skills without people telling her she needs to learn stuff better, since children are the ultimate beginners.
What she doesn't realize is that you have to have/learn a whole different demeanor to teach and appeal to kids.
No. 413644
>>413635I didn't watch the vlog, I can't stand watching too much of her anymore, but damn. Saying "dumbed down" really does not strike as someone who is happy to work with children and stuff.
I also wonder how she would deal with the honesty children tend to have at a young age, probably won't get a lot of that on Youtube since young kids don't get that much access to accounts and comment sections, but imagine her showing her video to a kid irl
>so, do you like my drawing of a shark?>no…i don't like it>WHAT?! I JUST GOT MARRIED! My 600 pages sketchbook challenge! I don't really want to draw every day IT WAS FORESHORTENING!! Check the reference image, don't be sheeple No. 413652
>>413635Wait but didn't she previously say that
>>413168 "I think they underestimate what kids can do."? If you're so confident that kids are smarter than we think they are, why would you NEED to "dumb down" your words?
Hypocrite much?
No. 413656
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>>413646 Samefag Just be aware when you comment on her videos that someone might report you
No. 413798
>>413658Exactly.
She SHOULD NOT be running a kids art channel, or a kids channel of any kind.
It's obvious she has no passion for it, but sees it as an easy target audience. Why not run a channel for simple relaxing ASMR style drawings for adults? It suits her more, and hits her actual audience since no children have interest in her.
No. 413895
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Her Friday art piece looks like crap so far… not surprising
No. 413896
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No. 413958
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Sneak peek of her Friday art piece… thoughts?
No. 413965
>>413958Why is her mouth off-center? The dip of the lips should be under her nose, but it looks like her mouth is more to the right of her face.
Everything about her art is stiff and lifeless.
No. 414171
>>413958What the fuck are those harsh straight lines under the flowers supposed to be. (I know shes desperately trying to shade but seriously)
They two first are atleast soft in color but then it just spirals out into straight brown lines. She shades like shes five wth.
No. 414238
>>413958I have a habit of drawing too small, so I get it, but god there are so many overdrawn lines. also lol the buttons/bow.
>>413961 While I think in general the really subtle shading and pastels is pretty, I agree. Deep shadows with color variation (like shade skin with purple, not browns) would do wonders for how stiff her lines are
No. 414264
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the color scheme looks like total ass here. not gonna lie. nothing about this piece really speaks "rose red" or "snow white" to me
No. 414279
>>414264Copic art that doesn’t fit the theme
Wow
Never seen that before baylee…
(Seriously can she even make something without using copics other than shitty watercolour pieces and misuse of other mediums?)
No. 414303
>>414282>>414264I actually think it's much better than when she makes everything turquoise/pink/purple, as
>>414005 pointed at.
The colors could have been better executed but I actually like the blonde one's scheme, and I think the more muted colors allude well to the Grimm theme. I think her biggest problems lay in value, not color.
No. 414309
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>>414307>Nothing about her says "Snow white" besides her skin toneWhat else did you expect, exactly? The black hair and a white dress?
No. 414311
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>>414309Samefag, I thought the two Snow Whites were the same and added an image for the one with the dwarves.
She really didn't do wrong with the blonde hair and light skin, anon.
Sage for correction
No. 414312
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>>414264>the color scheme looks like total ass here.Everything looks like a total ass. Beginner tier mistakes in every aspect.
No. 414320
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lol compare baylee's awful art to someone else's in the collective. (based off the tale of godfather death)
No. 414329
>>414320Danica is my favorite from the collective. She's pretty good.
I don't like the way she draws men, tho. I find them to be too feminine, and it kinda looks like more of a handicap for being too much in the comfort zone of drawing women than an actual decision to draw them that way. But I might be wrong and she might just like them that way, I suppose.
Sage for off topic
No. 414374
>>414264Ugh the lips being off-center
triggers me
>How do foldsThe dresses look so two dimensional and flat. Baylee has absolutely no idea how clothes work.
Everything about this picture is flat and looks like paper people.
I'm so salty that there are a ton of other amazing artists out there and this bitch has more subscriptions than they do. Fuck you Baylee you don't deserve the attention you get.
No. 414449
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Leave it to Baylee to show her cats asshole in the video….. gag!
No. 414454
>>414449Come on don't be a pussy.
It was pretty absurd when she vlogged herself vomiting, tho. And just "censored" the vomit falling on the toilet but didn't take the sound out
No. 414476
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Pants of Shit back at it again to speak for all of us kek
No. 414515
>>414476A true hero. Whoever this is, is definitely taking one for the team. Thank you Pants of Shit you will forever be immortalized in lolcow/Baylee culture.
>>414479Hahaha yea I just love how her drawings are flat, anatomy is horrid, lines are coloring-bookesque and she has no knowledge of color theory. I'm her biggest fan.
No. 414543
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No. 414560
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No. 414563
>>414543You couldn't even draw your own picture?
We're not trying to convince people you're a bad person, we're trying to convince your sheep that you're a bad ARTIST.
No. 414564
>>4145601) Baylee wtf does that picture have to do with the reply
2) I respected you Mark Crilley because you were one of the first art channels I would watch when I was learning how to draw. I've lost my respect for you now.
No. 414600
>>414069I think it was a couple years ago where she started giving that stupid "art is for fun" discourse she has because someone said she holds her pencil wrong.
She has such a childish mentality. It doesn't seem to go through her head that when people tell her things like that, they aren't necessarily policing her but offering alternatives because they maybe, MAYBE work for something?
And if they don't work for you, you just stop doing it. You don't need to follow every art rule, but it's prudent to try them before deeming them unworthy. No need to brat around.
No. 414622
Damn, that feel when you actually feel like you're accomplishing something.
>>414620 Oh yes, I wonder how many Bye pictures she has, she might have to find some more lol
No. 414625
>>414620Man your VPNs and disposable e-mail addresses.
Tonight, we rise.
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I live
No. 414830
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who the ACTUAL fuck would buy this.
must be one of us on lolcow. seeing as we're her Biggest Fans and all.
No. 414844
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200 fricken dollars for a drawing that looks it's from a coloring book
No. 415105
>>414264Can someone explain what's wrong with this art piece?
I thought it looked better than what Baylee usually produces.
The only thing that I can point out as bad is the stiff pose and the fucked up dresses.
No. 415126
>>415105a. anatomy is fucked up: the heads are way bigger then they should be
b. pose is uninteresting and they both look incredibly wooden
c. snow white's dress is too similar to her skin tone. they kind of blend in together.
d. both subject's faces look exactly the same. maybe red rose has slightly darker lipstick but that's the only change.
e. red rose's hand on snow white's forearm looks wrong
f. both of their mouths are way too close to their chins, but baylee gives almost all of her characters leafy chins anyway.
No. 415129
>>415105The faces look like they're having a stroke by the way it sags down, Rose red or whatever looks especially fucked in the face when you actually look at her.
What are hands.
The shading in general is atrocious, but what makes it are for example the hard brown lines under the flower crowns or those basic paper night gowns that ive seen better constructed in a 3rd grade crafts class.
Adding shit borders around a shit painting does nothing but amplify how odd the piece is as a whole.
You're literally framing your mistake with another mistake. She lacks imagination to the point where instead of establishing some sort of background or context for these bitches she just draws a border with more terrible 2 dimensional colouring.
The list goes on, so no this piece is no improvement from the others.
No. 415150
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Just in case she deletes this, lol.
No. 415170
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Man I just hate how well you can see the remains of her original eyebrow through the microbladed ones
No. 415175
>>415170microblading was the worst thing she could have done for herself. the thick fake eyebrows look a whole lot worse on her than her normal ones.
sage for samefag
No. 415196
>>415192I'm pretty sure that is the objective of the collective, not just to show off your own work. It's disgusting not to want to help and promote the people that join the same group you're in.
>Also, anyone notice none of her shitty work is in the calender.I think it was mentioned above but yea, that's hilarious.
No. 415202
>>415129>>415128>>415126The good critiques you anons give regularly astounds me. I love the brutally honest advice you art anons have and they're usually right on the money.
Saged for OT
No. 415204
>>415202I used to post art in anonymous forums a lot. Getting those brutal critiques can really help you develop some thick skin, pretty much nothing people say nowadays manages to offend me because it's a real breeze compared to the anon critiques.
People like Baylee don't seem to realize the easiest way to deal with people critiquing your work is to not try to make up stupid excuses, people can see right through that and sometimes that will fuel them further. Even if you don't agree with the critique, because this is the internet and indeed there are some times where people making critiques are pretty clueless, just nod and ignore it. Learning to not always be so defensive is really important.
No. 415205
>>415204Right! It's a basic skill for creators to listen to critiques and have the ability to sift through what is useful and what isn't without commenting back if it's useful or not. Just nod, smile, and thank them for giving up minutes of their time to write up a review for you - whether it's useful or not.
Time is precious. It's the one thing no one can ever get back. So whether it's hate or good critique, thank them anyway because they gave up their finite time to you.
At least that's how I see it.
No. 415209
>>415204Samefag and saged for OT
Are there any anonymous forums for art critiques you recommend?
No. 415215
>>415209I don't know as of right now, I used to go on draw threads on 4chan. But this was years ago. They might still have a few going, but I'm not really sure.
You can post stuff under Sketchbooks at Conceptart.org, it's not necessarily an anonymous forum but people will give you critique. I heard of it being very helpful.
No. 415272
>>415021yea but jellie bee was still uploading, wonder if she just left because shes not said anything. subscribed to her for a while, ive heard her say a few criticisms of it on her twitch so idk. sakuems always rubbed me up the wrong way with tracing and her homophobic shit on twitter.
idk sage for ot but the ytac seems so dodgy to me?
No. 415286
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ot but am I the only one who sees a massive pimple on her avatar’s cheek?
No. 415305
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I'm laughing too much at this
No. 415324
>>415318She has it for the same reason as many great artists anon
To let her cats sit on it and to put paper on
No. 415333
>>415272Do you have any screenshots of Jellie Bee? She just seemed busy with other stuff to me. Her uploads haven't been exactly scheduled lately.
Sakuems was a total bitch but I don't remember anything homphobic. And if it's any of that crap of people being called homophobic for not absolutely sucking gay dick, back to tumblr.
No. 415354
>>415351Got you, anon. Here's that vlog.
I would still very much like to know who it was.
No. 415357
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Part 1
No. 415359
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Part 2
No. 415361
>>393211Well well well… for someone you claim not to be worthy of a thread, she got a thread maxed out in under 2 months. The general artist thread hasn't been maxed in 7 months.
Sage for autistic sperging
No. 415374
>>415372Scroll up a little bit
>>407150This happened half a month ago. And then she came here and typed a whole book chapter.
>>407262 No. 415376
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>>415357Vexx was reaching pretty far, tho. They don't look similar enough to justify him putting himself in the line of fire for that.
No. 704694
>>704682>>704684>>704685>>704686>>704687next time can u post ur autism all in one post so it doesn't bump a dead thread to the front page every ten seconds
thanks