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Aight so there was a bunch of people interested in this in the Thread Requests so this is a thread to discuss particular MAPs you come across. General discussion on MAPs also welcome but please don't derail to infight with bait.
- What is a MAP?
A MAP is a Minor Attracted Person AKA a pedophile. These people generally campaign for empathy towards pedophiles and often imply it's a sexual orientation and, most strikingly, that it's not a bad trait. That kids can consent in the right situation and that sex with minors isn't inherently bad or traumatising if they enjoy it. Lots claim to be non-offending and believe you can be a harmless pedophile who doesn't offend.
Some terminology often used by these shit heads:
NOMAP: Non Offending Map
Anti: I've mostly seen this used as Anti-Contact, but sometimes as Anti-Pedophile from those opposing the community
exclusive: exclusively attracted to minors. non-exclusive means attracted to minors and people over the age of 18.
ephebophile: an adult who is sexually attracted to adolescents
hebephile: sexual interest by adults in pubescent (early adolescent) children (especially those showing Tanner stages 2-3 of development), which is typically ages 11–14.
Some tags or terms often used that you can search to find these scumbags, best used on tumblr or sometimes reddit:
MAP, NOMAP, map acceptance, map support, map safe space, real map support, pro map, minor attraction, minor attracted people, virtuous pedophile, anti nonmap, real map acceptance, non offending pedophile, non offending MAP, anti contact, minor attracted people.
Some links to get you angry:https://thisbitchsupportsmaps.tumblr.com/
"unapologetically a pedophile supporter".https://exposing-all-the-pedophiles.tumblr.com/
A user who tells people on KIK that she is underage. The screenshots will nauseate you.https://irishnomap.tumblr.com/
Piece of shit that makes me want to leave my own country, a MAP who posts and reblogs a lot from the community, so a good resource for long blocks of echo chamber text of people defending their spastic pedophilia with mental gymnastics and attitude.http://guesswhosupportsnomaps.tumblr.com/
One of the frilly special kawaii pedophile ~you're special just the way you are uwu~ blogs.https://flowersformaps.tumblr.com/
Now unused but another resource for mental gymnastics and pedo justification trying to make fucking pedophilia into this beautiful abstract thinghttps://arcanemap.tumblr.com/
"I can find girls from 0 to women in their forties attractive, though under 3 what my feelings are get really blurry, they’re just cute mostly. I am most likely to be attracted to girls from ~5-10 and the most attractive of them tend to be the most attractive of anyone."
If you have any personal MAP cows you've come across, please add them.
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I just need to know if "MAP" is a recent term because it's cast a certain band's famous song in an unflattering new light.
In terms of women MAPs I swear to God Lyndsay "Sex ed for kids" is a MAP ally and she has even said "children are sexual beings" in a vlog.
She is promoting the idea of "consent" for 3-7 year olds when nobody can legally "consent" until aged 16. Implication is children can consent
which sounds pretty MAP-y to me. People have also pointed out her behavior is predatory in the comments. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NOBLJ2X1yr4
the problem with MAPs is that they hide behind the mental illness excuse but then make more excuses not to get help because of muh stigma.
they're legit endangering people if they don't get professional help, a literal ticking time bomb. and its even better when they enable each others sick desires
"Slippery slope" my ass. Throughout history and across cultures fucking kids was far more prevalent and accepted than changing your gender. Not to mention far more feasible.
It's far worse too, but it's not in any way a modern threat as you're insinuating. On the contrary.
It's so hard to find actual map tumblrs because throughout all the tags you find a promising post like "For all no/maps having a hard time" then the text body is like "good fucking hope you die soon <3"
which is fucking wild.>>489985
I hope so but I think this is a whole other ball game, but if there's a will there's a way and I am so ready to see some sweet, sweet justice against dirty pedos.
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This piece of shit was trying to tell me how the Glee actor who got busted with child porn and killed was actually the victim in the whole situation
for anyone who is seeing a lot of much needed tumblr uprising and is looking for the real assholes, you can try the tags "actual map support", "actual map safe space", etc. tumblr users often put actual in front of tags where this happens, incl the spoonies, maps and self diagnosers.
anon meant Maps by the Yeah Yeah Yeahs I assume.
Great tune and thankfully MAP is a recent tumblrina label so we don't need to worry about that
I think that this MAP bullshit has the propensity to get a lot worse. I don’t see it getting better on account of the liberties taken and given towards the idea of “fluidity”. Moreover, while we can agree that sexuality is inherent, the comparable arguments from a pedophile or sympathizer would be to consider the idea that pedophilia is as hard wired as any form of sexuality. I think what most people (teeny bop tumblr suppprters) don’t seem to grasp is that sexuality is related to sexual preference, but also to intimacy. You can’t be “intimate” with a person who doesn’t share that same level of cognition. If they’re not capable of being an equal it’s always going to be an abuse of power. If you insist that children are capable of consent you’re beyond wrong. Children will eat themselves sick with candy if you leave them alone. (But so will most tumblr fatties.)
Anyone who works with children in any way knows that they are 100% not sexual beings. It’s simply something that hasn’t developed in a child. You can’t have child “friends”. An adults role to a child can be friendly, but an adult and child relationship isn’t capable of anything else.
I also 100% don’t buy into the idea of non offending pedophiles.
There are A LOT of pedophiles on tumblr in particular, especially if you’re part of “fandoms” that pertain to cute shit or Lolita stuff. There was one blog in particular that was ran by some guy in the US, who fell in love with his 8 year old cousin. I remember reading this being DISGUSTED. She came to visit and stayed at the house he lived in with his parents. Apparently they liked the same video games and he made this diatribe about how complete he felt with her, and how she was perfect. It was GROSS. He left a note in her suitcase proclaiming his love to her, telling her not to tell her parents, etc.
If I remember correctly, he was 10 years older than him. All these fucking idiots applauded his “love” for this child. They kept sending him supportive messages and insisting that their parents or some shit were 10-12 years apart, so that it was fine- and “cute” to have “loved her as a child.”
Like no one saw this as FUCKED. That person I think deleted their blog, and I think about that poor child so often. I feel so sad for her. I really hope that her parents found out and they kept that girl away from him. I quit tumblr after that. What a fucking cesspool.
And it's been proven treating children as anything but children can be incredibly harmful. Look at children raised by narcissists and used by a parental figure as a substitute spouse. It's horrifying MAPs try to act like they're capable of making decisions like that.
Holy shit, I didn't hear about that. I just read an article and he had thousands of "abuse" photos on his computer and flash drive? What the actual fuck?
It takes me to a whole new level of nausea that people defend these people and they find it acceptable/justified and think it should be normalized. I want to vomit. I might be reading into it too much, but they always have <i>those eyes</i> too, that stare which seems like part of them is missing. I wonder if it is a genetic defect that causes people to be like this, because if so, it really needs to be culled from the human race. I want to cry, it feels like nothing is safe anymore, especially for young women.
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oh man, do i have some stories to tell about this
so back in late 2014ish when the whole gamergate thing was happening i decided to check out 8ch (mostly for gg) but came across the /hebe/ board and it somewhat piqued my interest because i was still underage at the time and was sort of developing a crush on an internet friend in his early 20s, will greentext the rest. the short of it is i became sort of assimilated into this little gang of regulars to the board and that’s where i first came across the term MAP, and hoo boy did i meet a few crazy cows (and yes, i will post screenshots)
>be 15, developing an attraction to this friend (who isn’t at fault i should say, i just thought he was cute and i was nearing the end of a bad first relationship, he didn’t do anything) and just finished playing the pedo game unteralterbach
>decide to make a post in light of this on the board and get flooded with doubtful guys etc and it obviously devolves into me sort of attentionwhoring and anons wanting to talk to me
>they give their emails and i contact them first
>one of them ends up becoming my bf for 2.5 years after that lol but that’s a whole other story
>one of the people is this guy named david clegg, who i just add on skype but we don’t talk until the next thing happens
>fast forward to late 2015, he suddenly messages me saying he’s starting a podcast to talk about MAP and MAP related things and if i’m interested in offering insight as an underage dating a MAP
>i’m under the impression that everyone on the board are hebephiles and not actual pedophiles (the board being named hebe after all, and people getting anal about the difference)
>he adds me to a skype group of people who are all MAPs or MAP related
>over time i find out that he’s a right wing extremist
>and he’s not a hebephile, but an actual pedophile
>the quote that stands out to me the most is “11 really is the golden age. they just turn into those western feminist whores after that” and that fucked me up for a long time after that but /blogpost
>unironic kekistan type; moonman, le epic pepe, “kkkkk. kkkk kkkkk kk” etc galore
>frequently would have meltdowns in the chat blowing up at whoever disagreed with him on anything
>called me a slut and whore for discussing general fashion and dressing up with the other guys (?)
>pic related when everyone was just baffled at him interrupting the conversation
>he would frequently make gross passes at me and another “girl” (another cow from this group that i pretty much hate) while simultaneously giving us both shit for being “too old” and “slutty” (and i expressed my discomfort because i was in a relationship)
i’m trying to find more screenshots, i hope i still have them for you guys
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>frequently talked about “finding the perfect lgf” (loli/little gf)
>the type to complain every day “tfw no lgf”
>people would attempt to give him advice and he would blow up at them for daring to imply that his abrasive personality and extremist politics he would force into every conversation was why he couldn’t get a gf leave alone an lgf
>blamed western civilization for “taking away their innocence”
>messaged me asking if i could hook him up with “other lgfs” even though he said i was a slutty old hag
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i’m trying my best to find screenshots i promise
Thanks for this insight into their horrible minds anon. Keep em coming if you have more.>>491857> 11 is the golden age? These "maps" need to jump off a bridge honestly
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sorry guys, finding screenshots is harder than i thought
i looked through my computer and they’re all gone i think
anyone know how to look at old skype chat history? maybe that way i can take new ones
otherwise here’s more of his nonsensical pol rambling, saging this for politics
Samefag but the exposing tumblr in OP… what the fuck ??? People need to kts>>489633
The online community you're referring to is (I believe) the Virtuous Pedophile group. >>489663>consent for 3-7 year olds
is this bitch fucking okay>>489740
tbf most mental health professionals won't work with people who admit to paedophilic thoughts. Another reason why non-offenders need to come forward so they can be studied. It might be that nothing can be done and paedos just need to be fucking shot or something. Apparently chemical castration is pretty successful.
I think the reason it’s decolving is because no one actually believes that MAP is a support group for non offenders. It’s like the fatties who show up at weight watchers and never change. They’re still fat, we know they’re still eating.
In order to believe in that form of a support group, you also have to believe that the people who are able to justify- and they do, They justify their attraction to minors, are both non offending in the “celibate” sense, as well as not watching ANY form of CP.
So, do we believe that? Fuck no. Priests aren’t even celibate anymore. You expect me to believe that someone so far removed from human nature has the complexity and discipline to refrain from any form of depravity that they’re interested in?
I don’t believe it. Until then, MAP is just a way of testing the politically correct waters of today. They’re just being covert, and far more sneaky.
Excuse me, but what the hell do you mean by "non-offending pedophiles"?
Someone who just thinks to fuck an underage but doesn't actually do it - being a potential offender for his/her whole life?
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Helpful post for anyone new to the MAP horrorshow. These are the ~codes~ they use to communicate.
credit to http://the-pedophile-archive.tumblr.com/
a blog that has been archiving this bullshit for awhile
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lmao some kawaii infographs were stats pulled out of someones ass
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That's actually a really relevant and scary point. Not that anyone sane would agree that children can consent to hormone blockers.>>493879
I think you mean ephebephile is a social construct. Hebephiles are attracted to age group 11-14 years old and are definitely not considered "sexually mature". I am in agreement with the point that being attracted to 15-19 year olds is not disordered, especially if you are very close to that age yourself (17 YO attracted to 15 YO for example). Just fucking grim when guys of 40+ are chasing 18 year olds and going "it's not pervy !!1!"
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In the same breath- from a pro nomap blog
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It's just so fucking disgusting that tumblr is brainwashing so many of these retarded teens
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You can only imagine what goes on in this communitys DMs
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>>494101>I think you mean ephebephile is a social construct
Yes sorry, bad with the lingo.
>Just fucking grim when guys of 40+ are chasing 18 year olds and going "it's not pervy !!1!"
That's what I mean by morally.
One can argue that atleast teens are physically developed like women, and men infantilize women's bodies constantly, so it makes logical sense why physical attraction would occur. But, while some in fact argue they are mentally developed enough, it's generally not true, and definitely still creepy from a social aspect.
Any younger than 15 is where terms become justification and are invalid. Anything younger than 15 just morally and logically inappropriate attraction to children.
Sort of related; my neighbour while growing up was a couple of years older than me. He would constantly try to get in my pants when I was a child, and did sexually assault me on one occasion but thankfully his mom walked in and rescued me from the situation. I was pretty meek but he also overpowered me so I couldn't really get away. Fast forward 17 years and I visit my hometown, turns out the little creep grew up to be a monster. He was convicted of grooming and molesting three girls from the age of 8-10. All started with him sending dick pics on facebook which they were too scared to tell their parents about, they ignored it but he did the usual slimy "I'm sorry, you're so beautiful, lets talk etc etc" bullshit and they did begin talking. Thankfully after he met up with them all the girls told their parents and they got him arrested. Apparently he'd sent pics to several other girls who weren't involved in the court case but they were mentioned. He was convicted, spent fuck all time in jail and shows absolutely no remorse.
He was repeatedly asked why he did it and just laughed about it, said he did it because he was bored and it was fun. He would do it again. In a heartbeat, if he wasn't banned from social media. He doesn't consider himself a pedo, yet displays all the manipulative behaviour and sexual attraction to minors. He ruined their childhoods for fun.
Another guy from my hometown, a brother of a friend, worked as a babysitter and was arrested for making and distributing hardcore child porn. He was arrested at work so it was a pretty big event for a small town and I think we collectively couldn't shower enough to stop our skin crawling. So they are out there, increasingly doing this shit for fun and just to destroy lives, totally proud and unapologetic or completely denial of their pedophilia and any wrongdoing.
So this happened in the Brony fandom the other day to barely anyone's surprise. There have already been sadface videos about "oh no dis is gonna hurt our reputation!" but like… Priorities. That guy they're talking to was a well established and fairly popular part of the Youtube section of the fandom for the past few years, which he apparently used to get to young members.
Here's a vid summarising the events. You can find testimonies from the victims all over Youtube by now. https://youtu.be/RHp76fMdEXo
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>>494395>He also works for the 'Foundation for Sex Positive Culture' which is deeply disturbing.
Absolutely not surprising. I've noticed sex positive rhetoric escalating from "sex is natural and okay and apart of life," to "any perverted, degenerate thought you have is worthy of indulgence," over the past five or so years.
I was a part of a MAP discord (only one, because the others were too much for me) and I recognize a lot of the people that are being posted in this thread.
I joined because I'm a victim of csa and found my attractions were, for lack of a better term, strange. Their rhetoric drew me in, and I joined so I would have more people to talk with. At first, I was delighted to find people I could express my fears and worries to and not be judged. But over the course of a few months, I began to see how toxic the community was.
My breaking point was witnessing how many minors join to talk about their "attraction" and how the community responds to them. There will be 14 year olds calling themselves hebephiles (which is false, you're just attracted to your own age group) being welcomed with open arms, being fed all the feel-good lines about how their feelings are "normal" and they "shouldn't be ashamed" of their attraction (not being told that they are children and need to allow their brains to develop and grow). They're encouraged to share their age and they interact with actual MAPs, much older than they are.
Just being in these type of environments/echo chambers work to groom these kids to internalize the ideas of the people who want to take advantage of them and it's common for many of them to end up in relationships with older MAPs to show how open minded and accepting they are. These are usually children who are outcasts or teens/younger adults (like myself) who were csa survivors that have issues with their sexuality due to trauma. Vulnerable individuals who are desperate to belong. But also social outcasts, deviants, and manipulators who are in a space where their echo chamber allows them to avoid self reflection and access to a minor primed for grooming.
I would speak up against these situations (along with the idea that loli/shota is completely harmless, that making child rape jokes is a way to "cope" and not a disgusting thing to do) but they're quick to turn on you for what they see as "anti talk", or trying to be a "more virtuous MAP" than them, which is seen as a threat.
Another MAP who left the community made a tumblr post that explains a lot of my feelings towards the group and those like them.https://anti-map-map.tumblr.com/post/165410307607/hey-everyone-this-is-a-really-difficult-post-for
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If any of you haven't been regular on tumblr for a while (I shamefully have been), this rhetoric was welcomed by MOGAI groups as well. I was groomed by a 22 year old "heteromantic homosexual" (at age 15) who would send me shotacon at all hours of the day, insisted MOGAI was the new LGBT and that LGBT people were oppressive towards people who weren't in their 'clique'
MOGAI basically devolved into kinksters who think they're oppressed, people who spend all their time being internet warriors to defend their rights to post incestuous child porn of the gravity falls kids, annoying ace fakeboys, and MAPs. You'll probably notice when you find a MAP, theyll post about all these things. Probably because they were dragged into MOGAI a few years ago.
MAPs started popping up so quickly after mogai started to lose traction it was like whiplash. One evil defeated just for another to spring up.
These people will also bring up "POCD", meaning pedophilic ocd, pedophilic intrusive thoughts. Completely ignoring the fact that people with POCD (or intrusive thoughts about hurting children in general) are deathly AFRAID of hurting children or being involved with the process of hurting children which is why they wouldn't seek to normalize the idea of being attracted to children or look for fucking child porn of any kind.
It's just people desperate to look oppressed. When in reality they're disgusting creeps who willingly fantasize about abusing children.
Why must those fucking nutjobs give real trans people a bad name?
God, I feel disgusted right now. I can't believe MAPs are real. And I can guarantee you nobody but MAPs themselves are supporting that shit and it'll stay this way.
Unless the world disappoint me once more
they are real trans people unfortunately. just because they are pedos doesnt mean they arent really trans. like >>626598
said, it seems like the trans community on tumblr is bending over backwards to make them feel supported, and its nasty as fuck. tumblr is a cesspool.
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Incorrect. A Hebephile is someone primarily attracted to adolescents. A peodphile is someone attracted to babies, infants, children and prepubescent children.
Google is your friend anon.
nta but i mean it's not the same. adolescents are teens which includes 19 and 20 year olds. it's gross and creepy but it's not sick like wanting to fuck children
adolescents are aesthetically the same as adults.
i'm not defending pedos, but it weakens the issue to conflate them.
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lolicon pedophile on instagram.
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lolicon pedophile on instagram.
@popcutesweet / @chocatebanana / @moetrons
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lolicon pedophile on instagram.
@popcutesweet / @chocatebanana / @moetrons(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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lolicon pedo on instagram. @popcutesweet / @chocatebanana / @moetrons
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her shared account, the other owner says this about her and she likes it. @popcutesweet / @chocatebanana / @moetrons
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wow I used to follow moetrons (identified as a femboy and lied about being "cis"). She was posted a few years ago on the fakeboi threads too. She's also disgusting because that anime girl on the pillow case is 11…
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this is the closest pic i could find with her entire face in it.