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No. 804540
In the last episode, our protagonists ProJared (formerly of Normal Boots) and Holly Conrad (ex-wife on Game Grumps' Ross O'Donovan) were thrown into the midst of a media shitstorm after ProJared's poorly thought out divorce announcement prompted his soon-to-be ex-wife Heidi to expose his affair with Holly. Twitter immediately responded with their own experiences with Jared being a creepy perv. Highlights include:
- Jared creating several NSFW Tumblr accounts to post his lewds and submissions from his fans, including several underage girls. Heidi initially agreed as long as he didn't post his dick, which he did anyway without her knowledge. After closing the NSFW Tumblrs, he created a NSFW snapchat and continued the same shit.
- Jared soliciting more sexual images from said underage fans.
- Jared using his NSFW Tumblr and Snapchat to talk to girls and convince them to sleep with him at cons.
- Holly and Jared being seen making out at a con
- Holly divorcing her husband back in September and very shortly after moving to Seattle where Jared lives
- Peanut Butter Gamer making a fool of himself by telling people not to trust Heidi's statements until they know the whole truth, then apologizing for running his mouth before he knew the whole truth
- ProJared losing over 100k subscribers on Youtube in the span of a day and dropping back under one million subs, as well as getting de-verified on Twitter
- PBG dropping back under two million subs on Youtube after his tweets supporting Jared
Previous thread:
>>>/snow/785476ProJared:
https://twitter.com/projaredhttps://www.youtube.com/user/DMJaredhttps://www.instagram.com/projaredgram/Heidi O'Ferrall:
https://twitter.com/AtelierHeidihttps://www.youtube.com/user/AtelierHeidihttps://www.instagram.com/atelierheidi/Holly Conrad:
https://www.instagram.com/commanderholly/ (private)
https://twitter.com/HollyConradhttps://www.youtube.com/user/CommanderHollyRoss O'Donovan:
https://twitter.com/RubberNinjahttps://www.youtube.com/user/RubberNinjaSuzy Berhow:
https://www.youtube.com/user/Mortem3rhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzHWMl59l72-lZQDA0uW8yghttps://www.youtube.com/user/meeperfishhttps://instagram.com/mortemer/https://twitter.com/mort3merhttps://www.etsy.com/shop/PsychicCirclehttp://flapflaps.tumblr.com/The Let's Player formerly known as Egoraptor:
https://www.youtube.com/user/egoraptorhttps://twitter.com/egoraptorhttps://www.instagram.com/egoraptor/Dan Avidan:
https://soundcloud.com/ballsinyourearpodcasthttp://ninjasexparty.com/https://twitter.com/ninjasexpartyhttps://www.youtube.com/user/NinjaSexPartyhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BF1BWTA?ie=UTF8&Version=1&entries=0 No. 804553
>>804549Reading through the caps of the reddit thread where OP recounts their experience of sleeping with Jared and fucking
> PeenJaredkilled me. I hope that's what he actually calls it, it's embarrassing how bad he is at dirty talk.
>>804551It's sad how much more into him she seems than he is into her. I really hope she finds happiness after this is all over.
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this didn't age well
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seems conspiracy grumps were noticing things way before the announcement
(context of the thread was about projared's videos being taken down from game grumps channel)
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>>804557Reposting Holly's tweet referring to the drama before she privated her account.
Seeing her acting like Heidi's good friend only to say "hyperbolic statement of someone you don't know" makes me so sick.
>~i've never hurt anyone in my entire life, i only want happiness for everyone uwu~get dunked on you narc bitch
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>>804571pardon the clumsy screenshot but this is the tweet
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kiwifarms lol
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So there is speculation on whether Heidi and Proskelly were in an open relationship at some point.
Could this have been what started his relationship with Holly? Do you think they might use this to defend their actions like
>Heidi knew we were fucking and was okay with it until I divorced her over twitter!
Also how much did Heidi know about the exchanging nudes with fans and having sex with them?
I'm not trying to attack Heidi btw, I don't know anything about her and want to give her the benefit of doubt, just want to know other anons tinfoils.
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http://commanderholly.tumblr.com/post/124831180092/my-anxiety-and-depression-are-so-bad-right-now-ihttp://commanderholly.tumblr.com/post/134218835592/sometimes-going-about-the-day-is-hard-i-know-youhttp://commanderholly.tumblr.com/post/122346956867/its-started-to-become-pretty-apparent-that-somehttp://commanderholly.tumblr.com/post/117794414947/my-mom-and-her-boyfriend-asked-me-for-money-to-payI KNEW that somewhere on reddit holly's tumblr posts were discussed. I have the links but I can't see the content, of course. Although I do remember holly's tumblr has been AWOL for much, much longer than the past couple of days. Because I wanted to go back and find the very posts discussed in the thread. And I came up with an account that looked like it was taken over by spam or by a bot.
I wondered why she had given up on her tumblr. I thought maybe she just wanted to drop it. This was before the divorce, by the way. It was just an empty wasteland of a blog.
If anyone knows of a way to see those posts, feel free to try
No. 804592
>>804589>>804579This is the main reason why I find so much humor in Holly getting exposed
was never a fan and always thought people gave her a pass and white knighted her for the same things they'd shit on Suzy for
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lol
No. 804594
>>804589> Jared just always wants any hole he hasn't tapped yet.Reading the reddit caps it definitely seems like he's a guy who likes the chase more than the girl.
I can't remember the name, but I watched a movie once where in one part of the story a girl goes out with a rich older man and he buys her dinner first and it's nice, but on the second date he doesn't want to hang out or talk at all and just wants to bang, she gets upset and he ends up raping her. That's what I thought of when Jared told his fan "There's no need for formalities this time."
No. 804598
So, why all the immediate backlash and unsubscribing from the fans?
Don't get me wrong. I think it's a good thing, but usually, I see trash heaps in communities like this going on about "innocent until proven guilty", "She's probably not innocent either", "All of this is ALLEGED, she could be lying guys", "We don't know what problems they had in their relationship", "No proof, fuck off" all the time. Why the almost unanimous agreement that he's trash? I'm not naive enough to think society, especially online society, is just that decent, so what gives?
No. 804603
>>804599Holly was equally as
toxic and they fueled each other's egos and convinced each other that they were both clever, smart, and powerful enough to manipulate people and get away with it.
Shitposting here but antphrodite explains the Jared situation:
https://twitter.com/antphrodite/status/1123652948536561665 No. 804604
>>804598The fact that dickpics he sent to his fans were posted immediately. There was irrefutable proof pretty much from the get go. These kinds of situations are usually a he said she said kind of thing.
Even if he didn't cheat with holly he still cheated on her.
No. 804607
https://www.reddit.com/user/_ProJared_So ProJared's reddit posts are pretty interesting. While I understand him and Holly characters were rping some romance and maybe he was posting as his character, you'll notice he would often compliment fanart of Holly's character with "SO CUTE!" or "GORGEOUS" or "SHE'S HOT!".
Idc if this was all part of their dnd shit or w/e, I say it's crossing the line a bit. Haven't looked into much yet, just wanted to share. Sorry if this was already posted about.
No. 804609
>>804598I get it, sis, I get it. We're all sick and tired of witch hunts. Especially those of us that watched #kickvic play out.(Which coincidentally also involved many washed up has beens).
But then there are some reasons why this particular case is different. for starters neither Jared, nor Holly have denied any part of it, and silence always reads as an admission of guilt - at least in the public eye. That so many can also produce corroborating evidence up to and including dick pics leaves less room for reasonable doubt than our new girl Heidi has room for either's bullshit.
No. 804610
>>804606They were very close friends, Heidi considered her one of her best friends at some point. Not only have they gone on many trips together, they've worked on projects together, streamed together, shot videos together (holly deleted the ones on her channe but you can see some on Heidi and Jared's respective channels), played DnD together (off camera), hung out all the time together, and when Heidi's house flooded Holly was the first one she called and Holly and Ross immediate took Heidi and Jared in.
The fact that Holly is trying to blow her off as a nobody while also saying "uwu you guys know me I'm an innocent bean" is INSANE. I can't understand how people still have sympathy for her.
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>holly and jared at the beach
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>>804638spam filter being uncooperative
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>>804642please website let me post I swear it's not flooding
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>>804645it works when you ask nicely
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>>804654It seems fake to me, doesn't fit the theme of the playlist.
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With all this going on do you folks think Holly and Jared are gonna show their fug mugs at the upcoming D&D event? Or are they gonna hole up and hide away from all this?
No. 804675
>>804556shark eyes and fake smile.
i would die if someone i loved looked at me like this.
you can see her heart break a little.
No. 804678
>>804671Are you saying this because Mica has milk or just because you want to see Mica?
I hope Holly shows up and gets the cold shoulder from everyone, fans and hosts alike.
No. 804679
>>804675Fuck, man. Now that you mention it it's heartbreaking.
She clearly smiles with her entire face and eyes, while he looks fucking souless and dead.
And to recover she immediately turns her entire head away.
Jesus.
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>>804586All but the last link have archives. The first one you linked is a generic post about anxiety.
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>>804685The second link has a long post that I only skimmed. It has a part in it talking about how her dad's girlfriend called Holly's wedding a sham during the ceremony/reception, which is rather interesting in light of recent events.
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>>804687And the third link is about how she feels being in Ross's shadow.
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Was reading about Holly's character and saw this lol
No. 804700
>>804693What about those tweets from Heidi back in February saying she had been dealing with something bad for almost 2 years?
Just because they went public doesn't mean this hasn't been happening privately for a while now.
Ross went inactive for a long time from 2015-fall of 2018 and I think they filed for a divorce at least 2 years ago. I think they might have been trying to save the marriage and then Heidi found out about the affair with her husband.
Heidi said somewhere they had been going to therapy. I think this is a whole 3 year deal.
TLDR Speculation:
>Holly is fucked up because of her family, Ross probably got short with her over something and probably raised his voice>Holly victimized herself and ran to Jared for comfort>He used her for sex>He manipulated her and kept her as a thrill fuck. No. 804708
>>804700>he manipulated herthe only thing I doubt here or at least don't want to push because this seems like it'll be Holly's way to get sympathy.
I bet she's going to cry mental illness like she always does and use the fact that Jared now has a known history of using his power to get nudes of fans and claim he did something similar to her.
What is different is while fans are vulnerable because they idolize their 'youtube idol', Holly was in his friend group and basically internet community/business relations and I'd argue they're on the same "e-celeb" status (not very popular but, known by enough. which is why it's such a big deal. if Holly was some rando girl, this be less talked about).
I think the dnd shit was a big part in this, like they both got way into their character's romances and the fanart they started wanting to get with each other, I doubt it was just him manipulating her.
I'm not trying to defend him, I just don't see her as that innocent in all of this.
No. 804719
>>804708I wish Heidi would release more info about the texts on that phone. Whatever she found, was enough for her to put out that scathing tweet about Holly's nudes. If she felt Holly was more of a
victim I have doubts she would have gone that far.
The whole thing about Holly thinking Jared and Heidi had an open relationship and Heidi was fine with them fucking sounds like BS too. Holly sounds like she was emotionally involved for one thing. More than just fun sex on the side.
Also, she had enough self preservation to not give out any public indication that her and Jared were fucking. Which means they were actively keeping a secret from Heidi. For over a year.
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>>804700If anything, Holly was pursuing Jared. Jared is just a deplorable dude who will stick his dick in anything that moves.
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>>804695I find it so cringy when people make DnD characters that are basically themselves.
Anyways Holly and Jared commented on a fan art of their DND characters fucking about how much they love it. This was in
2017https://www.reddit.com/r/DiceCameraAction/comments/7ks17w/nsfw_diath_x_strix_commission_above_the_bakery/?sort=top No. 804738
>>804730he definitely was preying on her. She's super insecure and has the mentality of a hormonal 16 year old. She went to HIM for validation.
She was fine with having sex and cheating, or she would've played the
victim then. I figure the evidence Heidi and Ross was found was irrefutable and showed undeniable consent on both sides.
Holly is not as bad as Jared, she only wanted a fling, but she was still wrong, and she really fucked up.
No. 804741
>>804735"this gives me ideas"
LOL HOLLY
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>>804746>HAHA WHOOPSthis truly is sending me.
No. 804755
>>804738Holly stans get out. They're both
abusive shits. If it was just insecurity maybe apologize to your ex best friend, or at least don't discredit her and suppress her. Maybe don't participate in the year long (or maybe longer) smear campaign to slowly isolate her and turn people against her behind her back. Maybe ask your loving husband for a bit of support instead of slandering Heidi so you can suck Jared's dick.
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>>804738>has the mentality of a hormonal 16 year oldbut is also asexual? Got it.
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>>804746holy shit lmao first shuwu and then this, what a day!
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>>804769Sorry for the shit quality, but here's what I could find of their "friendship".
No. 804780
>>804738>Holly only wanted a flingwhat are you talking about? Heidi stated that Holly's texts are basically all her begging Jared to leave Heidi because she's
abusive and that Holly was a better partner. She was in it for the long haul, not just a "fling." She literally betrayed her best friend because she was hungry for Jared's dick, she's just as bad as him.
No. 804784
>>804778I swear this is so odd. Jared literally looks like he enjoys himself around her but not Heidi, as posted up above of the gif of both of them.
It wasn’t until today that I even bothered to look at the GG thread but damn, this has been a Wild ride.
Anon, has she posted anything on her insta yet after all this went down?
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>>804540Helpful Links not listed in OP:
>Correct insta for Arin: https://www.instagram.com/egofaptor/>NinjaSexParty insta: https://www.instagram.com/ninjasexparty/>Ross O'Donovan insta: https://www.instagram.com/rubberninja/>Heidi's Website (where she has pics of all of her and Jared's cosplays: http://www.atelierheidi.com/>Arin's Ex Katie's twitter: https://twitter.com/dropsofvioletGame Grumps:
https://twitter.com/GameGrumpshttps://www.youtube.com/user/GameGrumpshttps://www.instagram.com/gamegrumps/Normal Boots:
https://twitter.com/NormalBootshttps://www.youtube.com/normalbootshttps://www.instagram.com/normalbootsofficial/Otherwise good new drama summary OP. I know you just copied and pasted the OP links from the last one, but I think it probably needed to be double-checked/cleaned up since there's so many more players now (too many unnecessary links for some people, not enough/incorrect for others. It's also weird to list Arin, the spearhead of GG, as "The Let's Player formerly known as Egoraptor" when you've used real names for everyone else….and he's still known as Egoraptor. Just a weird disruption of the info). Since it's still a continuation of previous GG threads, it might also be helpful to include some previous context for stuff that might pop up again (people were already asking to be spoonfed easily accessible info in the last thread):
Suzy "the Goose" Berhow:
>Has a history of scamming fans by buying cheap jewelry from China and the likes and reselling it to fans with an absurd markup as her jewelry line or as one anon put it: "creating a really expensive jewelry line that involved very little effort on her part". Arin has to come to her defense when people find out.>Previous threads over the years were mostly about Suzy's "thyroid-related" weight gain and absurd styling choices, scamming, and how she's a ~rEaL gAmEr GuRl~ >No one seems to really have complaints about her current styling choices since she lost weight and the skunk stripe and adopted a more natural look (it's much closer to her twin sister Jean's)>Suzy was a "model" when younger, and will still constantly repost the same pictures from her past over and over again, in case anyone forgot>There sometimes seemed to be some unspoken tension between Suzy and Holly. Suzy seemed to give off the vibe of being uncomfortable not being the only cool gamer gurl in the GG group, especially when up against a girl that seemed to prefer and respect.>Seems plausible that she prefers being the female center of attention given the theory that JonTron's swift and dramatic departure from GG was due in part to some beef between Suzy and Jon's girlfriend at the time. IIRC this is still all just speculation. (Jon's too big of a topic, read that one on your own for the full backstory)>A/N: I would be kind of surprised if she showed any support for Holly at all, but maybe that's just meHolly "Manic Pixie Nightmare Girl" Conrad (Backstory/Pre-Divorce):
>Holly is a talented cosplayer/craftsman/special effects artist and well respected in the community, even appearing on Syfy's "Heroes of Cosplay">Was one of the main focuses of the 2011 Documentary "Comic-Con Episode IV: A Fan's Hope" (directed by Morgan Spurlock)>Originally gained notoriety for her Commander Shepard/FemShep cosplay>Married to Ross O'Donovan, beloved animator and member of the GG Family, from 2012 to 2018>When it came to Arin/Suzy vs Ross/Holly most people preferred Ross and Holly, because they felt less fake and Holly was famous separate of Ross, not riding her husband's coattails like Suzy.>Was best buds with Jared's wife Heidi, another talented and respected cosplayer/craftsman>Apparent tragic backstory = quirky anxiety uwu. I don't really know the whole backstory on this one, not sure if it really matters. >But was apparently close to ger grandfather and inherited his house(?) in Washington(?) when he passed away which was in theory part of the reason she and Ross amicably split. Jared and Heidi just also happened to live in Washington.>Other speculated factors included Holly being asexual (lmao), the toxic GG fan-community, "having codependency issues", and wanting to leave LA while Ross wanted to stay>Publicly their divorce was mutual, amicable, and came as somewhat of a shock….OR WAS IT?>Basically all this drama is so juicy because Holly "quirky manic pixie dream bird gurl, asexual anxiety, luvs animals so obviously wouldn't hurt anyone uwu" Conrad was the surprise plot twist villain we never saw comingHeidi of the House O'Ferrall, Hell Hath No Fury, Giver of Zero Fucks, Destroyer of Careers
>I've followed Heidi for years for cosplay stuff, so I can only speak from that perspective but I don't think there's really much else to say about her>I think some people in the cosplay community found her kind of cocky, but she didn't seem to really rock the boat too much>She's a much more detail oriented and talented craftsman than your average costhot. Produces tutorials and shows her work in progress pretty in depth (not as common with cosplayers these days, so I think she's appreciated for that)>IIRC she has a degree in Theatre/Costume Design, so if she's cocky her work quality at least backs it up>Personally I followed her for a long time for cosplay stuff without ever even knowing who she was married to or who ProJared was. Can't speak for others, though I'm sure it didn't hurt her popularity>"She had sex with my husband", top 10 anime deaths of all timeJared "Pigeondick" Knabenbauer
>I've actually never really known or cared about ProJared or NormalBoots before this, I just wanted to call him a Pigeondick.>Maybe someone more informed can give a backstory, though again I'm not sure if it really matters>big yikes >>804556Previous GG Threads:
>Jon vs Dan speculations, are the Suzy nudes real or fake, blah blah blah, old news. Seriously, don't ask to be spoonfed this old dried up milk. Go read about it on your own. >There is a whole subreddit dedicated to GG Rule 34 where they sexualize the girlfriends/wives as well as the grumps called r/polygrumps. Suzy once long ago tweeted in support of polygrumps, but it seems like an especially toxic corner of their already toxic fanbase. I doubt she would confirm that support today.>GG sells a merch line called Game Gyaru "based on Arin and Danny, reimagined as female characters inspired by the anime series Dirty Pair, named Arina and Daniella respectively". It's a blatant tracing of the characters from "Dirty Pair" that they did not initially acknowledge. (Pic related: Top is GG, Bottom is Dirty Pair)>GG release body pillows of Dan and Arin. They sell out very quickly. It's gross: >>792883>Guess what Jon's an even worse blatantly sexist/racist person than we ever could have imagined>Katie/Suzy/deviantARTKatie (Most recent GG drama unrelated to PigeonGate 2019 ):
>Suzy claims she and Arin have been together since 2002. Arin's mysterious deviantART ex Katie shows up from an apparent cryogenic sleep after 10+ years and throws an insane hissy-fit about how Arin was pursuing HER during that time and she turned HIM down. >Thinks Suzy poisoned Arin against being BEST FRIEND her despite the fact that she was married, disappeared from the internet, lived across the country, and was definitely leading Arin on for some time. Arin seems to have bought her some gifts in this time.>Claims any of this is important at all because she was Arin's inspiration for a character "a woman being beaten and raped but wanting Egoraptor to be her knight in shining armor even though she's an ex-assassin">Now obsessed with Arin/Suzy/GG, obsessed with the notion that Suzy is somehow copying her every move and personality trait (again, despite the fact that she just now reemerged and Suzy was probably ~13 when all of this started)>Consensus: Arin was a dumb teenage boy who was probably involved with both of them, the situation makes Suzy look incredibly sane. Also it's been 17 years who gives a shit. (Guess what: Katie does)>Obviously overshadowed by current milk, but I just feel like we haven't seen the last of Katie. Probably in like 5 years she'll catch up on the current drama and have a real hot take. No. 804790
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Stamper tweet.
>>804786>>804787Wow just wow.
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Happy 800.000
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Fucked up trying to post this so hopefully it works now but I found it amusing.
No. 804803
>>804784To be fair he used to be very loving towards Heidi until the last year-ish or so (not sure on the timeline, I didn't take detailed notes on it because I didn't know this was all going to blow up!) But he used to look happy in pics with her and mentioned her and praised her all the time as well as complimented promoted her work. He also made it very obvious he was married (ex, linking her in all his bios) and all his fans knew about her, it's nothing like it was recently. As sad as it all is, I do believe that it was a happy marriage for many years before Jared and Holly decided to take a steamy dump on it.
>>804788Bless your heart.
>>804790Is this the signature Smeg "Dreamworks Eyes"? Makes me gag.
No. 804808
>>804802The most ambitious crossover of the century.
Thankfully Heidi seems smarter than to take that bait "especially with that "I know those guys" clout drop. At least I hope she is, because if not she'd be walking away from one abuser right into the arms of the next.
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>>804802
>i doubt thi`ll actually be seenOh, sister
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>>804802>I know a few people>I'm here to talk if you ever want toomg she's so thirsty for attention
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>>804814looking back at tagged photos it's so obvious that something was going on.
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>>804821
>omg she's so thirsty for attentionImagine if it comes out that Jared send dick picks to KT too.
No. 804847
>>804825A lot of girls settle for nerds because of "shared interests" and because they think they're funny. Hasn't your friend ever gotten a crush on an ugly ass dude and shown you a picture like, "Isn't he cute??". The standards for men are low, these people are like a High School anime club and they're dating/fucking eachother because they're birds of a feather.
Holly is a grown ass adult and can make proper decisions, she knows right from wrong and if she felt empathy for Heidi at all she could have said no at any point. They fucked because they wanted to, it's really that deep.
Holly and Jared are both in their 30s, with a 1 year age difference. I feel like she's being infantilized as this helpless little creature despite her whole "Your wife is so mean, come be with me instead I'll treat you nice! Look, here's my tits!"
They're both gross. Jared seems like a sex addict, which I'm sure any ugly weirdo would be if they were able to be. He's taking the lead for creepiest abuser, though.
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>>804787The replies are so brutal it's amazing.
No. 804859
>>804847Jared is yet another nice guy ™ and male feminist that puts the cake.
Then they wonder how girls don`t go for the shy nerd type who go out of their way to Whiteknight, they are overcompensating for being manipulative assholes and will eventually Rise Up.
Holly is yet another argument against the manic pixie girl type. This story is really about the dawn of 00s nerd archetypes.Evn KT is like the sad afterstory of the KH, nightmare before christmas faux goth girls that never grew up.
Is like when the hippie era ending with the Manson murders, like the facade comes crashing down and its a grotesque and compelling spectacle. Normies must feel vindicated for looking through the bs all along.
No. 804874
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>>804861Of course it happens with normies too, like whenever a bible thumper conservative is found with hookers and blow, is fucking beautiful. The best milk.
I am refering to the irony of building a subculture and a persona around moral standards that ends up backfiring. You might as well not bother with the fake identity politics and pc shit to begin with.
No. 804895
Slightly OT. I noticed a lot of people are comparing Pidgeongate to what started Gamergate, except the sexes are reversed. I am well aware Zoe's a fucking cow and even had her own thread in /pt/, but I think it's hilarious seeing people who are anti-GG hop on this and not trying to be the virtue signalers they are.
Holly's always had an unlikable personality to me. She definitely felt more fake than Suzy, I can't point out exactly why. I just had a gut feeling.
>>804735>so many little detailsKEK
>>804746God bless you, DSP.
No. 804914
>>804852My bad for the phrasing.
I was using it more in the sense that he was on a greedy power trip that escalated the more he had access to people, rather than saying he had an uncontrollable problem. I think he’s a wheedling, manipulative vampire like Nick Robinson.
No. 804926
>>804847This. Can we keep from infantilising her? She could've told a shrink about her urge to homewreck but she didn't and she dedicated a lot of will and time to wrecking this marriage. Mentally ill people have agency. She is as much a pos as he is.
If the roles were reversed, nobody would cut a male homewrecker slack for his mental illness and rightfully so
No. 804933
>>804926True. Sage for blog, but I used to feel really attracted to men in relationships. Going to therapy really helps and there is no excuse for homewrecking imo.
That said, Projared is 1000% more sleazy and guilty.
No. 804943
>>804941don't shit where you eat.
and yet…
No. 804966
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Now every time I see these photo, I can only see Jared
No. 804973
>>804859>This story is really about the dawn of 00s nerd archetypes.Damn, that's insightful.
>>804861All groups of people are full of shit like this, but it is truly spectacular when a group that prides itself on being above 'normie' shit and so much more complex/deep/unique/intelligent/morally righteous is revealed to be no different than anybody else, and if anything worse. In the case of nerd culture it's always fun to watch a bunch of emotionally-stunted, vapid imbeciles reap the consequences of refusing to grow up. Hopefully the community continues to hold them accountable; it seems like this might be unlikely in the case of Holly, a 30-something adult woman who seems to be getting a pass from many people because of her ~uwu mental illness uwu~
>>804874>You might as well not bother with the fake identity politics and pc shit to begin with.The moral posturing helps them prey on women and girls. The average woman would not trust a meme-spouting /pol/ addict, but she might trust a woke feminist.
No. 804976
>>804956He did actually have one.
Also I guess this week is killing youtubers and their careers cause James charles is also now being fired upon this week just keeps on giving
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No. 804990
>>804793>I was focused on the PeenJared dramaSo you're a newfag who doesn't understand how any of this works, but felt the need to make a sloppy thread about the new shiny drama that you didn't even bother proof-reading? And you can't even sage your post?
>I'll make the the new Game Grumps thread!>But instead of Game Grumps in the Game Grumps thread, I'll make it about Jared>Hmm…well there's been 9 previous Game Grumps threads, but Jared's penis is the only thing that really matters nowPeople in the last thread even specifically said to keep it a Game Grumps General thread, not a Jared/Normal Boots thread and you did the exact opposite of that.
No. 804994
>>804965Actually he didn't even have to avoid Holly, if he was just more respectful about how he released his divorce statement this might have all been avoided for him. Heidi already arranged to move out and agreed to the divorce. She had been tweeting back in February about how she had gone through some rough shit (she didn't say what but it's clear now that it was Jared and Holly's abuse) for a year but was trying to move on and focus on herself. She specified she wasn't going to talk about specifics in public as she didn't feel it was anyone's business. That is until Jared decide to publicly perpetuate his abuse of her by handling the divorce "statement" in a terrible way. He preemptively blocked Heidi and all of her friends, waited until he was out of town so she couldn't even try to talk to him privately if she wanted to, and released a bullshit statement that sounded like it spoke for both of them when she never gave her consent and he didn't even warn her, and it forced the "this is an amicable split and we're still friends!" narrative on her that was obviously false. This was the last straw for Heidi and it is what caused her to go public (and subsequently many of his
victims followed suit).
He basically looked at Holly and Ross's divorce statement and said to himself "Hmm, how can I get all the ass pats they did but also abuse Heidi as much as possible all in one move?" Had he just been decent about one fucking tweet he'd still have a career right now.
But hey he probably ran it by Holly first at least, right? I'm sure she totally gave, like, a lot good feedback. He probably was with her when he posted too, for emotional support and so she could be there first to respond
wink, wink. It was toootally worth it I'm sure.
I may be getting a little too into this because I had an ex just like Jared but never got the satisfaction of getting my revenge so I'm living vicariously through Heidi. Bless this woman for how she handled everything, once he crossed the line she went scorch to earth and didn't flinch once this entire time. No. 804996
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>>804830the comments of any posts with holly and Jared on IG are flooded with this
No. 805002
>>804976Thats good, these people exploited cheap, low effort , low quality content and made youtube benefit spam machines rather than creators. The rise of lets players meant downfall for animators and content creators who actually put effort but can´t upload 5 times a day.
I don´t much care for them
No. 805003
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>>804895>>804987>>804993Dang, ya'll are good. I've been following the GG threads for years now and never paid her much mind. I was just too blinded by the Goose to notice I guess. When I found out she and Ross were split I was so bummed that the last GG thread was locked and dead, it seemed so surprising to me. That or she tricked me with her dumb Kermit voice.
(I was just looking for a silly kermit gif but you know what, this one feels right. This is essentially what Holly and Jared called their fucking anyways.)
No. 805005
>>804994It's really amazing. I'm so glad Heidi just fucking laid it all out there, tagged them and all, and let the floodgates open with no remorse. Not only does she get the catharsis of her
abusive ex getting dragged through the mud but her one tweet allowed other
victims to come up and tell their stories. Honestly this milk has given me hope for humans because now one more egotistical fuck ugly male has lost all his power and can't hurt his
victims anymore. I hope all of the 'open secret' abusers start shaking in their boots because women have made it clear that we will not take it anymore.
No. 805019
>>805007It seems he only came onto fans and left other youtubers alone (probably didn't want to risk his
victims having a platform). The only reason he got with Holly was because she was so aggressive about perusing him.
No. 805020
i hadnt heard that holly was supposedly “asexual” so i did some digging, sorry for the copy & paste, i’m on my phone
cork-bored asked:
Sorry if this is like, rude or not okay, or you’ve already answered this (if so ignore/tell me!!! I’m sorry!!!) but what’s your sexuality?? I’ve noticed you’ve been reblogging a lot of pride stuff lately and I’m just curious!
commanderholly-deactivated20180 answered:
It’s not rude! I actually have been thinking a lot about this recently and I’ve been meaning to post something about it, so this sort of prompted me to do it.
Last year around this time I came out as pansexual. I thought because I didn’t see any difference between gender attraction wise, that I identified as that. Recently I’ve had to do a lot of self-reflection on my sexuality and I read this book:
https://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Orientation-Introduction-Asexuality-Generation/dp/1634502434/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522824422&sr=8-1&keywords=asexual+bookIt’s a book about being asexual and I realized that that describes me MUCH better than pansexual alone. Especially being Grey-asexual/demisexual. I still don’t see any difference in gender, but when I read this book it was literally like everything I’ve ever felt made sense. Growing up I never had crushes, I only felt anxious when people pressured me into needing a partner. My first kiss was absolutely terrible because I felt like it was something I
HAD to do. I had no connection to this person and felt nothing except anxiety. I felt wrong, and broken, and like I never understood what others were experiencing when they talked about sex. I remember my first boyfriend even asking if I
liked physical touch because I didn’t understand so intensely. I didn’t talk about sex with friends because I didn’t understand it and it just wasn’t interesting to me.
Now this doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy physical sex as an act or romantic relationships, I’m in one. I have felt very occasional sexual desire, but not linked to any physical look. What I experience is VERY much so not often and very much only in response to an emotional connection with the other person or situation. Sometimes it’s confusing or brief or incredibly intense and then gone. But I don’t walk around the world and think “oh that random stranger is hot and I feel something for them” that just doesn’t happen to me, ever.
My whole life I’ve been told I was wrong, a prude, etc. But finally, at 31, I’ve started to understand my sexuality and that I’m not broken and that I’m ok.
I was so confused growing up, and felt so isolated and strange. I’m making this post so you know that you’re ok if you grow up and feel confused like I did. You’re not wrong, and you’re good no matter what at whatever age or place in your life you’re at. Don’t let anyone tell you what you experience is invalid. <3
https://sparkkeyper.tumblr.com/post/172594433392/sorry-if-this-is-like-rude-or-not-okay-or-youve No. 805027
>>805020why she gotta make everything so fuckin dramatic. I too am like, "demisexual" and it's really not that deep. I just feel more attracted to someone when I have an emotional connection with them, yikes. If you didn't like someone back then, you just didn't. Clearly she liked something in Ross enough to marry him I guess, but the way she talks is like other people are hormonal sex beasts that ogle at everyone and think about fucking them. She alluded to an
abusive person in one of her posts and I have a feeling it's that same ex.
Big woop Hooly, so you didn't like your
abusive ex so much. You aren't broken, you are more normal than you think. A late bloomer who values emotional connections, bitch you ain't special
No. 805035
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I was kinda curious if Volpin liked any tweets in this whole fiasco as I know he is friends with Heidi on some level but also is a male feminist that had an affair while gas lighting his wife and "jokingly" brought one of his multiple mistresses onto panels as the "Volpin Props Community Manager". Found this little exchange from just a couple of weeks ago that made me giggle. People are delusional for ever thinking Holly was a good source of mental health advice. Mental Heath Mondays were so gross, glad she'll never be able to do them again, good riddance!
No. 805042
>>805020Isn't everyone more attracted to people that they have emotional connections to? All of that could be easily understood and summarized with "bisexual with low sex drive".
Anywho, all of that is why I'm not yet fully convinced that she really wanted the PeenJared, per se. That and there were probably hundreds of nerdy horndogs sliding into her DMs that she could have fucked instead. Nah, what she wanted (IMHO)was someone close and safe that could her love her paternally, and thought trading sex to an already married pedo was the way to go about it. Not excusing her behavior, just armchair psychologizing it.
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this person should have bought a lottery ticket, damn
everyone called OP crazy/far fetched in the comments (they weren't important so I didn't include them)
No. 805046
>>805044No, he went through high school in an Australian Grammar(boarding) school, and only expanded his horizons elsewhere slightly before Arin set him up with the Grumps. That's why his early Gamer Tonight vids were able to be featured on a low effort Australian Video Game review show.
He was also only able to first shake hands with Holly as a fan because he flattered her in saying he moved all the way from Down Under just to meet her.
Like, I know he still looks 12ish, but he's actually much older.
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>>805043I did a little digging and he's a dual Irish/Australian citizen. In 2015 he mentioned doing some "final immigration stuff" paperwork, and says he is a permanent resident green card holder. not sure if his marriage would aid in securing permanent resident status (I'm not educated about immigration stuff like that) but I've attached a relevant tweet
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"Everyone makes mistakes uwu"
No. 805064
>>804755I just started reading this for fun, dont know these people besides lurking the suzy thread occassionally, how the fuck is holly seemingly completly fine with all of this
What the fuck is up with the ugliest dudes getting a little clout and becoming street whores?? And cheating on their legit caring and way too forgiving wives that love them for what is holly, a fraggle rock gremlin troll?
No. 805067
>>805047If he already was a permanent resident with a green card, then he wouldn't need to marry someone to stay in the country. Non-Citizens will marry when they need to get the actual green card. Their spouse is essentially a sponsor.
Being a dual citizen from 2 different countries can validate this. If he were to become naturalized in the US, he'd forfeit both of his Australian and Irish citizenships to become a US citizen.
No. 805068
>>805052The only thing that would help her significantly now besides time is giving a real explanation of what happened, if she really thought him and Heidi were already separated, etc. The internet is going to keep going buckwild over this and leaving her fanbase in droves otherwise because she is making herself look guilty by stomping her feet and then running away.
Of course it's an emotionally charged situation so she's freaking out but fans of her, Jared, and Heidi are all going to want a real explanation if she has one. Ultimately Jared is way more responsible for what happened as the married man but given how Heidi said Holly manipulated him into wanting to leave Heidi for Holly (which admittedly is a little dubious given that Jared was already a piece of shit cheater who didn't need much motivation to neglect his wife), Holly needs to give a real answer other than outright denial since there is already proof they did have an affair so total denial like "you can't just believe her!" doesn't work here at all.
No. 805072
>>805064Damn don't insult Fraggle Rock like that anon. She looks like your stereotypical Tumblr SJW at most. A cunt inside and out is all Holly ever will be.
She went from this innocent pigeon D&D playing witch geek girl with a solid fanbase who really cared about her, especially when it involved her thoughts on mental health, to absolute narcissistic back pedalling damage control piece of shit in a matter of a few days. What an amazing downfall.
No. 805078
>>805041Fuck she was sooo jealous of Ross, of course people like him and GG more then you.
Anything else anon? How did people react to her? Did anyone say anything about how she was acting?
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I am putting my tinfoild hat on and kind of waiting for this to end with Heidi being implicated in some milky stuff as well. They all seem to come from the same barrell and there is something fishy about the whole thing, the GG obviously know some shit, these guys might as well have been running a sex network and all fucking each other. Everyone´s trying so hard to save face and keep their PR that we are likely not getting the whole picture, even from Heidi.
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No. 805127
>>805020imagine being in your 30's and still trying to define yourself with identities that only a teenager would need to figure out who they are. how embarrassing, talk about a failure to launch.
>>805027>I too am like, "demisexual" and it's really not that deep. I just feel more attracted to someone when I have an emotional connection with them, yikes.…so you're a normal person? Why do you need a fucking label to describe being sexually attracted to someone when you're romantically attracted to them?
>>805038They use 'quirkiness' and mental illness to absolve themselves of responsibility for the mistakes that they make, despite the fact that everybody has idiosyncrasies and despite the fact that mental illness (and childhood abuse) are experienced by a huge proportion of the population in America and other Western countries. They portray themselves as fragile to give themselves and others the illusion that they have depth and in order to manipulate the people around them.
As a general rule of thumb you should never trust somebody who brings up their health condition(s) incessantly outside of communities centered around those conditions. It tends to mean that being sick or damaged is a huge part of their identity and it'll bleed into how they think and act in a very negative way. Of course there are exceptions like severely disabling or terminal illness, but otherwise it's a good idea to approach with a high degree of caution.
>>805052tbf, what option does she have? She's going to get shit on regardless of whether or not she takes a break from social media; may as well lie low and let some of the heat die down.
>>805118Whatever baggage Heidi has can't be remotely as bad as her husband's given how forthcoming she was about the dirty details. She obviously isn't worried about retaliation
No. 805148
>>805102I personally find the fact Heidi was "OK" with him swapping nudes with random girls on the internet to be highly suspicious, she also goes in on Holly
more than Jared in her announcement (the bitta slut shaming about her nudes) and the clearly untrue statement about his big penis.
The GIF posted upthread - you can see he has literally zero real emotion about her but she's still sitting contented. I think she was totally smitten with this weasel and chose to overlook absolutely everything - was probably even going to stay together with him had he not decided to divorce. Her idea of a "rough patch" is a little rougher than most.
So it's likely there is some dirt on her in terms of how she condoned the nude swapping, her awareness of the ages of the people involved (everyone knows Tumblr is full of teenagers) and what exactly was said between Jared and Holly in the texts. Her posting this all on Twitter was a stategic power move but it was fuelled by the fact she still cares about/loves him and was ensuring the "new" relationship with Jared and Holly was not going to start off smoothly.
No. 805150
>>805148>goes in on Holly more than Jared in her announcementi have no idea what you're talking about when she had like tens of posts detailing what a cold, gaslighting bastard jared has been to her, and maybe 2 posts about how holly wrecked the relationship.
>everyone knows Tumblr is full of teenagersi think it's fair to give anyone a pass for believing that their husband won't ask minors to send him nudes. that combined with the fact that he was lying to the fans about heidi's involvement, and lying to heidi about the nature of the pics he sent/received, makes me kinda not agree with you about dirt on heidi.
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>>804787i can't stop laughing
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KT tries to insert herself into recent events, and remains genuinely crazy
No. 805163
>>805041> is a total brat at partieskek, not surprising at all.
>>805078Kinda wonder if Ross was too successful for her and that was a factor in her getting "comfy" with Jared. Jared technically was bigger than her still, but not to the extent that GG was, and his fan base wasn't nearly as fanatical and outspoken.
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>>805127
> …so you're a normal person? Why do you need a fucking label to describe being sexually attracted to someone when you're romantically attracted to them?how did you manage to skip the fact I used quotation marks on purpose, and my entire post was about saying that it's actually normal and she's just being overly dramatic as if the rest of the world are hypersexualized thrust motors who only want to dick or get dicked?
If you weren't being specific to me then the label exists because sometimes you can see a person over ahead and be like "hmm they look good" and you become interested to flirt or start up a conversation, etc, or how someone might sleep with a stranger because ~sexual chemistry. For demisexuals it means they kinda blank out the world completely but having that emotional connection with someone allows them to "see" that person in that context. I dunno anon, I didn't make the term, I was just a confused youth who was also a late bloomer like Holly, but I'm a grownass woman now and I don't give a shit about what people think of me
It's ironic that the "demisexual" who doesn't really "get" sex and attraction is the cheating one, and with Phineas. You'd expect Ross to cheat because he wasn't getting fulfilled in the romantic/sexual department.
(no1curr) No. 805181
>>805180I'd sage if you're planning on spouting inaccurate bs. If the very concept of discussing something is "making the site tumblr" then you better get off the damn internet then, because you have tunnel vision. I'd also look into reading comprehension classes so you can understand what I've said for two posts now.
I explained what it is based on other peoples' descriptions and feelings on the matter. From the very start I said she isn't a special snowflake and she's more normal than she thinks. I'm sorry the word demisexual
triggers you, should look into that btw.
No. 805184
>>805180How bout you stop making shit up and whining about shit you don't understand
Do that
Do that challenge nonny
No. 805194
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Holly's subreddit turned against her.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CommanderHolly/I really hope she doesn't come whining to Ross and make him her personal tissue.
No. 805195
>>805148Who is this kissing Holly’s obese ass all the time? Since the Suzy days too, why would anyone be a fan of Hoggy?
Has she ever been caught self posting?
No. 805198
>>805195Some people are just too easily tricked by the "uwu soft manic pixie girl" facade. They think she's cute (not my opinion, it's theirs), and in their eyes a cute girl who is a mental health advocate can do no wrong, because "uwu back off guys she has anxiety!" They feel like admitting she fucked up is stigmatizing ALL mental health problems, because holly primed them to think that way.
They can't accept that sometimes people are both mentally ill and just plain old bad people at the same time, and that doesn't have to mean that all mental ill people are bad. I'm sure Jared has something wrong in his head, it doesn't give him a pass though, and Holly sure as hell doesn't get one either because her streams "uwu helped my anxiety one time during finals".
Also I'm sure at least a few of them are just bad people who are vicarious defending themselves and whatever horrible things they did in their personal life by defending Holly.
No. 805201
>>805195I personally think people used to white knight Holly as a means to "prove" they're not sexist for hating Suzy. Like a "SEE I DON'T HATE WOMEN BECAUSE HOLLY IS GREAT"
I never got it because you could accuse Holly of the same shit Suzy was always accused of and made fun of for.
Suzy was always ragged on for being ugly and having an annoying, then turn around and say how cute and hilarious Holly's potato looking goblin ass was. Suzy's goth obsession was cringey, but Holly wanting to fuck birds was endearing. Suzy was a feminazi bitch for talking about sexism once, where Holly literally said that calling her mom is sexist and no one cared.
The only difference between Suzy and Holly then was that Suzy's reputation was in the shitter and Holly was clean. My, how the tables have turned
No. 805202
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>>805200Since this is an imageboard, I'll post the actual caps of her convos with Jared.
1/4
No. 805204
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This is the first instance I've seen of GG interacting with the situation (outside of Ross saying "please leave me alone"). I wonder if Ross asked all the GameGrumps at the start of the situation not to comment because it involved Holly/might have involved him being cheated on. Maybe Ross and Holly made a private agreement to not talk negatively about each other and that extended to the rest of GG? I didn't think Ross had a role beyond getting played by Holly, but now reading other people's theories is making me wonder.
No. 805205
>>805201This makes me think
>Katie praised for being better than Suzy>Turns out Katie is a crazy narc bitch that can't move on
>Holly praised for being better than Suzy>Turns out Holly is a insufferable narc bitch, cheater and a homewreckerAt the end Suzy is gonna end up being a saint of game grumps.
No. 805210
>>805196Holly's fanbase looks like they're more betrayed over the entire ordeal, while Jared's fans are absolutely livid. Maybe Jared's fans are mainly guys, while Holly's are mostly girls, idk. It's still a huge 180 to immediately go from "quirky birb mom mental health advocate" to #double homewrecking cheater/Jared's enabler"
I think they're whiteknighting her because they really want to give the person they've looked up to for all these years the benefit of the doubt while they reconcile all this shit. I guess the main difference between the subreddits is that Holly's fanbase seems to have been built up as a supportive community for everyone involved, while Jared's wasn't nearly as intimate. Not condoning any of the bullshit Holly pulled, but commenting on what it probably feels like for her fans.
No. 805215
>>805210I think the difference in anger is because although Holly is a homewrecking two faces snake. in the end all she did was cheat. which again is bad on its own BUT Jared also coerced teenagers into having sexual interactions with him which is on a whole nother level.
What Jared did doesn't excuse what Holly did but there is just more to it.
No. 805216
>>805213Lol, she thinks that's gonna work.
Her tweet is screenshotted everywhere, has been mentioned in thousands internet drama videos.
Discrediting Heidi and calling her "someone random on the internet you guys don't know" isn't gonna work either, especially when you have evidence such as
>>805199 where she's obviously pretending to be a good friend to Heidi.
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>>805209>he did know my actual ageIf she has a text of this than she better use that as proof because that'll be the most fucked up thing he's done so far. I 100% believe she was 15 it's just scumbags like proskelly will always claim to not have known the age of the teen they were talking to.
I wonder how Holly feels knowing she was trying to win over a pedo? They totally deserve each other.
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>>805209>he also had a threesome with two unknown men where he prematurely ejaculatedI can’t stop laughing
No. 805224
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>>805220>he also used to stand in front of his open window completely nakedImagine just having an average day, walking out to do errands or some shit and you look up and have your eyes assaulted by ProPerv and hiss 11 year old body and he's flopping that tiny wiener out in front of his open window.
No. 805225
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>>805220the person made a report. i so hope he rots in hell.
No. 805226
>>805222You're probably right. Considering what Jared is being accused of is downright criminal, sleeping with someone's husband pales in comparison. Even if that someone was a close friend, and even if she tried to act like she doesn't know Heidi.
What she did is still fucking disgusting and I doubt she'll ever totally live it down, but I'm sure some people will be willing to forgive and she can have some sort of career still, thanks to that.
Jared is probably done, though.
No. 805230
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>>805220>make fun of his pubes because it’ll piss him off>premature ejaculationThis is the cow that just keeps on giving
No. 805232
>>805207I swear to God, do normal people do roleplay like this? Or is it always
the creeps
No. 805236
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>>805225Even though she can't show his acknowledgement he knew, there's still the tricky issue that she's presently 16. He's in strife.
No. 805240
>>805239She'll be in deep shit as well too if she sent any nudes, because that's distribution of child porn, which is far bigger of a charge than Jared will get if they never met or anything.
As much as people want to see Jared go down, the people doing the sending that happened to be underage is in deeper shit.
No. 805242
>>805240someone else had asked the same question in the thread and brought up the anecdote of two teens prosecuted for filming themselves in the act.
see
>>805225, according to her he is the guilty party and not her, going by her state laws. i might be wrong though, non-US anon here who doesn't know jack shit about your laws sorry
No. 805246
>>805242Yeah it's tricky when its 2 underage teens, because they're both technically breaking the law but both are within the same age frame/same age that they'll get charged based on parent's decision to press charges.
A 16 year and a, say 26 year old? That's automatic charges of statutory rape as well as child porn distribution (from the 16 year old.) "Grooming" carries a charge too but only if they've met up for sex and there's actual physical evidence of it taking place.
No. 805247
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>>805246it's a bit hard to believe that this idiot fucked up SO bad that i'm having to say "at
least there's no evidence that he fucked the younger fans"
and feeling relieved at that
i hope we get some news soon on how the report pans out, really
No. 805257
Jared's
victims can report him online if they're unable to do so in person to law enforcement
https://report.cybertip.org/ No. 805268
>>805261Sort of. Unless they lied, Snapchat won't have that data stored similar to KiK, which is why so many people use them.
In the forensics work I've done, you can only pull up so much from the user side of things. So it's very possible, but it depends on how deep things have to get and how much risk is involved with snap inc.
No. 805293
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More choice memes from the subreddit
No. 805310
>>805222i have this theory that he was originally the one who seduced holly and made her feel special like all these other girls are saying. i don't think she knew he was soliciting nudes and having sex with other girls.
that's not to excuse her actions, she definitely cheated on her husband with her good friend's husband and if what heidi is saying is true she also had a hand in convincing jared to be with her instead of heidi and turning him against her.
iagree if she's smart she can play this out as being a
victim of jared as well, while still owning up to the shitty thing she did to heidi.
No. 805317
>>805310If it's similar to what I went through in high school, she was in a vulnerable place and Jared started giving her compliments, and it escalated from there. He tells her how unhappy he is in his relationship, and she becomes angry at that relationship, thinking she's so much better because of all the attention he's giving her. She tries to break them up because in her head, she's ending his unhappiness and also they can be together, when really, she should've known how much of a tool he is, not engage, and find another guy. When you have low self-esteem, you'll do a lot of shitty stuff.
Even if that's what happened, she's handled it really stupidly. She could've gotten out of this relatively unscathed, but that shitty post cemented her in this shitstorm.
No. 805321
>>805317Wah wah wah :’(
stop infantalising her. Shes a grown ass woman in her thirties who wanted to feel better than someone else by fucking their husband, going so far as fucking a “friends” husband. Well jokes on her flabby ass, he was fucking lots of others at the same time, she should get checked for STD’s
No. 805325
>>805317She was married and had a husband that cared about her.
Being manipulated over your low self-esteem is bad and it could make Holly appear in a more sympathetic light but she was still in her 30s, adult and in a marriage with a caring husband. Bitch just wanted to feel more special than her game grumps husband.
"You know me, i'm a good person and would never do this - don't believe some rando." + "i'm sorry jared and i'm here for you~" is where she truly revealed her own narcissism.
Also the whole "we are breaking up so Holly can move into the state with trees" was scummy as fuck and now everyone knows what that meant.
No. 805326
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Even shad
No. 805327
>>805321>said she was stupid and has the mentality of a high schooler>stop infantilizing her!!!but the most important thing is that she's fat, right anon-chan?>>805323
where in my post did I say she's innocent? I called her stupid, and what she did was super gross.
No. 805374
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Found this post on tumblr, does anyone here know more about the highlighted part?
No. 805378
>>805338>>805341>>805326this art by shad is literally just bait and clinging to twitter trends desperate for relevancy. It's not that deep.
>>805317If Holly was in the public eye with a career at stake, a mental health advocate who serves as a rolemodel and if she was Heidi's GOOD friend who had her trust, she should've had so many moments questioning this affair if there is anything redeemable about her character.
Leaving the question: How do you betray your friend like this over and over and over and turn around to play friendship and not end the affair out of pure emotional exhaustion? and how do you pretend to be a rolemodel and not wonder if you deserve to be seen as such with that skeleton in the closet? how can you kid yourself this won't come out and don't consider that maybe you should do better if only for the sake of your career?
literally, don't project your highschool experience onto her
No. 805379
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>>805374that's what one of the people that called him out said on twitter
https://twitter.com/swampborzoi/status/1126516324581007360I assumed that the projared/game grumps videos were put on private because of the cheating scandal but maybe it's because they found out about him talking to minors and knew that it would come out?
No. 805381
>>805317> I did a dumb thing when I was in high school.Holly is 30 years old. Sure, what you did was a bad move, but Holly doing it at 30 is a different level of stupid and gross. Similarly, I think a 16 year old boy exchanging nudes with 16 year old girls is dumb and a bad idea, but a 30-something dude doing it is a different level of stupid and gross.
Also Holly has shown to be more active in the abuse than you seem to believe, so stop fucking defending her actions and reasoning.
No. 805382
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>>805379Holly enabled his pedo abuse? I am so ready to watch her go down with the pedo ship. It's satisfying to see Jared get taken down, but I was low key a little annoyed that Holly would probably get off scotch free in the long run because because her fuck ups paled in comparison to his.
>>805380What parts are wrong? Spell it out.
No. 805389
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>>805385Here is another post recalling Holly being a scum
No. 805391
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>>805390Not only that but gave the contact info/email of the underage
victims to Jared without their consent.
No. 805396
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Now that she has shut down everything, I've been browsing her fan blogs and there is a lot of gold in there
No. 805399
>>805397No, most of it is actually private but I never followed her so I can't access it.
Here is Holly giving an interview for "Asexual Artists"
https://asexualartists.tumblr.com/post/169822685132/interview-holly No. 805406
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>>805399so we can confirm Holly was not attracted to ProPerv's 11 year old body and small penis, then what was it (assuming any of her asexuality shit is true)?
No. 805416
>>805412I never really believed the asexual thing since Ross semi-admitted he and her did sexy talking online before marrying and she herself made a lot of sexual jokes and implications
This might have just been an excuse to stop fucking Ross when she got tired of him and wanted Jared/someone else.
No. 805447
>>805442They also don't plain bother to get around to it if the Youtuber is a big enough name. See for reference Logan and Jake Paul making a circus out of the corpses of suicide
victims, for instance.
No. 805448
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this didn't age well either
No. 805452
>>805420Probably because Heidi doesn't look like a cross-eyed hobo granny.
>>805427This. Not to mention PervJared or Holly Homewrecker might have some retarded fans who would try something dumb. It's better to be safe than sorry.
No. 805458
>>805447I totally get that but considering how highly illegal this situation became, I hope youtube does the right thing or gets major backlash for not deleting their channels.
Both of these losers need real repercussions for keeping this quiet, what better way than losing everything.
No. 805460
>>805439Youtube usually takes down channels if the channel owner is officially sentenced (austin jones, daddyofive) or if it makes a big enough stink. But like
>>805447 said if the channels make enough money for youtube they'll let them stay up until the last possible moment. Even with an international media/internet shitfest scandal of a situation it was STILL profitable enough to not delete the video; Only take off his monetization temporarily and kick him off google preferred after he tazed a dead rat on camera.
But projared is not as big or popular as youtube's golden boy, so we'll see. I for one am eagerly awaiting for this pedo to lose his channel.
No. 805466
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>>805463I mean, he didn’t specifically say Jared was in the wrong, no. But the way I read it was that he defended what he thought was true, but now he’s seen the actual truth he doesn’t agree with it
No. 805467
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Did anyone else regularly watch Holly's mental health mondays? I used to watch most of her streams and rememebr one last month where she was (actually, not metaphorically) crying through the entire stream and kept repeating that she didn't know what to do because people in her life she cared about "refused to help themselves" and that she wanted to help them and fix them but couldn't.
I had just assumed it was in regards to her fucked up family situation but now I'm tinfoiling it might have been about Jared if she knew about all the pedo shit.. or the sabotaging that Heidi was talking about ("refuse to help themselves" = not leave his wife that Holly was spinning as bad?)
No. 805472
>>805468Jirard is so cinical, its almost like he had his pre formated response for a situation like this just lying around his desk in case of a contention being needed.
Makes me remember how he threw Greg under the bus, he is a corporate style sociopath. I actually sort of believe PBG went full retard and jumped the gun because he thought he was defending a friend without fact checking anything, it has that candid sort of feeling to it, but GG and Jirard just went in full PR damage control, completely cold and that also makes me think they have know some seedy shit was going on for a long time.
No. 805473
>>805466With how it all developed and how fast he was to suddenly "apologize" even still just a hour before being a condescending dick, I don't believe him. All his fans showering him with "Oh you're so mature! WE FORGIVE YOU" are just so willing to ignore that he's most likely lying just to stay in good terms with his company boot.
He only posted this after his team posted a formal statement.
He's not really sorry at all. He probably still doesn't believe Heidi and only said this to not seem like he's attacking the
victim any longer to save face.
No. 805474
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This was posted by Heidi's friend
>while she was married for at least a year
so she definitely cheated on Ross
No. 805482
>>805480I mean they did get an email in April. It isn't like Jirard had heavy contact with Jared anyway, so maybe he was waiting for the investigation to be finished
Of course NormalBoots didn't do shit until Twitter did the investigation for them
No. 805491
>>805489jared is the one who requested his videos be removed; they didn't do it randomly or of their own accord
he probably knew something would get out and a storm was coming, but i doubt the grumps knew everything
No. 805494
>>804598SAME. From what I can gather the time line and speed at which all the photos/dick pics ect came out pretty quickly tipped it all in Heidi's favor. It roughly works out
> Ross and Holly divorce in Sept 2018 bc Holly wants to move to Seattle, Ross wants to take a job in LA, APPARENTLY> Jared is booted from Normal Boots and his videos are taken down late March/early April>Jared and Heidi start removing each other from their social media (bio's ect)>Jared posts the "statement", Holly replies v quickly>Heidi almost immediately lets everyone know Jared's blocked her, and her friends let her know what the statement says. She refuses to corroborate the statement, and puts the cheating/nudes/ect accusations out there publicly>Immediate response is mixed in the first couple of hours>A couple hours after people start to come forward with stories. Some of her friends corroborate her claims, loads of other people post their own stories, and actual photos start to surface. We're all bombarded with his dick and it's a nightmare. >Tide turns, Jared is now clown central, with his own subreddit leading the chargeBest I can tell (I don't live in the US, idk what time is there) most of this happened really late, and the initial reaction was from a much smaller, concentrated amount of fans/outsiders, who decided Jared could get fucked pretty quickly. By the next morning, the whole drama was pretty much out there, so by the time the greater twitter community (or whoever) got the story, all the details were there and it was pretty easy to see the bullshit for what it was. Add on all the pre-statement details and it seems pretty clear? As opposed to info trickling out over the day this kinda just all got dumped straight up. Holly really didn't help the situation either by immediately trying to turn the tide in her favour with that "she's just an internet personality, I'M your FRIEND" tweets.
No. 805498
>>805472What kind of response are you expecting? Jirad consistently handles this kind of drama better than anyone else in their retarded circle. He’s not gonna be an idiot and come out of the gate swinging like PBG. Not airing out all your personal feelings online doesn’t make you a sociopath, it makes you a decent human being lol.
And what do you mean he threw Greg under the bus lmao. Greg left the company, offered no explanation, Jirad told his fans Greg left, said it was personal, and left it at that. Then years later Greg decides he doesn’t want his videos still online, demands Jirad delete them, and Jirad tells his audience that Greg is making him do this, and it’s not up to him. If Greg wants to provide anymore of an explanation, the ball is completely in his court. It’s not up to Jirad to defend the guy.
No. 805501
>>805495Where did you hear that? Jared said he wouldn't make it, but what about Holly?
>>805499I thought so too. I could have sworn that they dragged their feet about it when they got the email and only did something about it recently.
No. 805502
>>805355>>80537050 now? Damn. Would have guessed like 12 or something.
If there's a decent sized aviary for them, and they're intentionally being bred for sale/squab that's cool. If(what I'm thinking is more likely now) they're all just crammed into sad cooing shit filled cages she'll need animal welfare agencies called on her ass as well.
No. 805504
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>>805498>Greg left the companyThats a way of putting it.
Jirard simply got a better deal for his channel , decided to go solo and left greg out, Greg got salty of gerard being an hipocrite with his video explanation and then remain to make profit from his old videos featuring him.
No. 805516
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>>805508Here's what the page said when it was most recently archived, neither Jared nor Holly was mentioned by name but they did remove DCA from the list of guest shows
No. 805519
>>805467Only part of the last one(it's still up on twitch), and only since the controversy. What's sad is that she talked about techniques that could really help some people, so hopefully someone else will pick up the mantle of something similar once she's purged.
Also of note, I suppose, she mentioned out of seemingly nowhere that personality disorders are a million times harder to solve than regular ol' brain weasels like depression, OCD, etc. You'd have thought nothing of it at the time of recording, but given recent evidence it suggests she's probably on the very high end of sociopathy scale. The kind of person that eskimos would deal with by sitting them on ice floats and pushing them into the sea.
No. 805520
>>805505Just after Greg left is when the channel got an overhaul (better graphics, editing, new office, new crew) . It was all part of the plan. So is understandable for Greg to be upset, imagine working for that long as a duo with your best friend, suddenly new money comes in, you get the boot and an extremely condescending video response by Jirard washing his hands of the whole thing to top it off.
The fact that he waited a while to ask for the removal of the old content is not am asshole move on his part, if he did it just after the fact it would have killed the channel but now theres dozens of new videos without him so its really just him not wanting to be asociate with Jirard publicly anymore and not have Jirard make more passive income from that content.
No. 805531
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out of curiosity I was watching some of heidi's youtube videos and guess who I saw…
No. 805547
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No. 805559
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you can play along at home to find out just how asexual Strix
really is with these
Dice, Camera, Action! character sheets:
https://media.wizards.com/2017/dnd/dragon/PC_Strix.pdfhttps://media.wizards.com/2017/dnd/dragon/PC_Diath.pdf No. 805561
>>805210(former) holly fan here. I know no one cares probably but I think you're spot on. myself and my friends who I met through that community don't have a problem writing off jared. he was always just sort of a weird guy who was a little funny but mostly just skeevy. holly on the other hand seemed so wholesome, and her content was very personal and based around things like mental health, her rough past, and to some extent social issues. I think people are having a hard time because there was really zero indication that she would do something even remotely like this. she always seemed like a very honest, down to earth person.
plus, jared was soliciting nudes from fans (some of them minors) and we have absolute proof of that. so he's done.
No. 805576
>>805519>she talked about techniques that could really help some peopleDoes that really mean anything coming from a 30-something woman who still lets depression and anxiety disorders (i.e. conditions that millions of actual working women have to and do manage) make up a huge part of her identity and cripple her life to an extreme degree? It doesn't sound like her 'techniques' are so helpful if she can't even function on a normal level, let alone stop herself from doing easily-avoidable horrible things that can be prevented with basic decision-making skills. It's kind of fucked that she was considered some sort of authority figure on how to overcome mental illness, even before all this shit was exposed.
>>805544Spot-on
>>805572>I don't know how such a lizard man managed to pull something like thisIf you have an audience then you can punch well above your weight regardless of how nasty you are
No. 805581
>>805577I mean, her mental health tips were pretty simple. it's not like she was telling people what drugs to take. she just gave general advice that any functioning adult should already know, like eating well and going outside or whatever. I don't think anything she did or said was really dangerous in that regard.
in retrospect though, it DOES seem like she was just doing a lot of that to fill a niche and get views. I doubt she cared very much about mental health issues when she was willing to take part in emotionally manipulating one of her best friends. I think her time as a mental health advocate is well and truly over, even if she does come back to the internet eventually.
No. 805628
>>804620Honestly just watch Heroes of Cosplay. I used to think it was edited for drama but it seems like Holly’s rude and awful personality is real.
Polite sage, catching up with the thread.
No. 805634
>>805576We know what she looks like. We know what she acts like. We know she hasn't killed herself(as of a week ago). Just these facts alone should tell you the techniques she knows do work. Stay tuned to find out if she's still kicking along this next upcoming Monday. If yeah then her mods will have a hell of time in keeping the chat civil.
>>805588>In this stream she talks about equality for women and supporting other female creators. That should have been the tell, I reckon. Actually supporting women that are struggling in the industry will always be badass. Merely proselytizing about it is empty virtue signalling. What trash people do to cover up the stink.
No. 805635
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Holly was always radianting cow vibes
>Called mom of gamegrumps
>Gets intensely butthurt most likely because it goes against her manic pixie dream girl persona
>stop it guys, that's SEXIST!!!1!1!1
No. 805642
>>805268I am pretty sure I saw a recent news article that yes they actually do. There is still stored data, but it is more difficult to find. A forensics team has no problem either going through the phone's storage and recovering it, or requesting it from Snapchat's servers.
>>805277According to the minor he did keep it and use it to get hard during live streams. If he saved it to his phone or to his computer for this purpose, it will be found having been there even after having been deleted again.
No. 805648
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From the Twitter of a girl CommanderHolly collabs with on Twitch. She's been sub-tweeting about this since Feb 6th 2019, so this public blowup has been brewing for a while.
No. 805682
>>805681Sounds like you've never been on the receiving end of it. It's a whole thing of desexing women once they're a certain age, expecting them to do emotional labour, and putting them firmly in one category socially. Whether that's sexist or nah is up to you, or just plain shitty and stupid.
Digressing from the topic of this thread, though.
No. 805684
>>805586I'm laughing at all the replies
>So smol!>So pure!Not anymore kek
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>>805648>>805650>>805665she's credited as the artist and model for most of Holly's crap on etsy:
https://www.etsy.com/shop/TrashWitchCoven No. 805698
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>>805666>>805681>>805682I just wanna say i love you all, anons. Thanks for understanding why any woman would consider the term mom offensive from a fanbase or community. It's really obvious why no woman wants to be called mom unless they're an actual mother.
>>805687Speaking of Holly's clothing stuff. She was just recently claiming to be working on NEW stuff for Spring/summer. I wonder what's gonna happen with that? I wonder if she'll put it on halt? Her last update was right before the scandal
No. 805700
>>805698Right?? This whole "mom is a positive affectionate thing" is fine – if you get that it's not ONLY an affectionate thing. It can be, sure, if you're in on the joke, but much like "bitch" more often than not it's not fucking nice to be called that.
It's cute that the people on these boards have never apparently seen sexism first-hand, but that does not mean shit doesn't exist.
>>805692I kind of have been wondering about Holly's game plan through all this. Did she want Weaselboy for her own? Was she chasing the thrill of fucking over her husband and her "friend" while getting Jared's puny peen? Was it an ego trip? Or did she really think she'd get more positive attention for being Wifey II after a Tragic and Unforeseen Breakup?
No. 805705
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>>805700Probably a lot of components going on but like someone else said their in-game romance was cheered on by fans. Sort of a chicken and egg situation but I would wager it’s related. With Holly’s move out of the pink flower crown uwu image and fully into the hag/bog witch persona I wonder how much she just thought she was Strix IRL. At the very least she probably thought an eventual public announcement of their relationship after the previous divorce waters were cleared was viable. In Holly’s mind they weren’t just fuck buddies as evidenced by her telling Jared that he’d be so much better with her than Heidi.
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>>805705I fixed Jared's self INSERT character.
No. 805728
>>805726I felt like ProJared's actions and words were a little contradictory.
Waiting until you're out of state and then blocking Heidi… so much for "style and grace" lol
No. 805729
>>805726Its not bs anon.
>>805725Probably easy to self insert into her life since she is more plain and tubby compared to other e-celebs and mentally ill uwu~ So thats why she was considered “cute”
No. 805730
>>805729This sudden obsession with calling Holly fat is ridiculous. She is nowhere near fat or even chubby.
Us fatties don't need her lumped in with us.
No. 805732
>>805729The point I think is more people tend to block exes because of that, no one said anything about Jared's situation being BS lol.
If you look at Heidi's tweets during this, she said TECHNICALLY they already broke up in February, so you'd have to go back to see exactly when the block happened, so hopefully someone kept track of the time frame.
No. 805739
>>805733It's more that it's a stupid and untrue nitpick. You can see her ribs in some pics of hers.
She's a cheater and manipulating hag. There's no need to make her ugly by implying she's a chunker
No. 805741
>>805705there was an interview with Holly regarding their dnd shit and she said her and Jared were close friends before it and he got her into doing the Dice Camera Action thing because "he knew I was into dnd like him". I think they were messing around before their characters started being shipped hard but, probably secretly used it as an outlet for their cheating. I don't know enough how most dnd games are played regarding romances but, it sounds like they purposely meant to have their characters have a romance to get off on what they were secretly doing.
>>805730Shut up fatty.
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Real talk I think she needs to keep her mouth shut until investigations are done with Jared. There is no way she can bounce back fully but her career isn't over
No. 805776
>>805764Not much she can do after that ~I'm here for you~ tweet anyway.
If she kept her mouth shut completely, people would be so much more sympathetic.
No. 805790
>>805726>especially when you KNOW exes and their friends can AND WILL spread BS about youBut there's no point in that when the information will still get out to other people lmao
Blocking someone because they are your ex is understandable, but blocking someone because they will say something won't stop them from saying something it also won't magically block others from seeing it
No. 805793
>>805792you absolute mad lad kek
post caps if you can, i am already howling at the image
No. 805794
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Is this Jared and Holly
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>>805776Even now her most recently liked tweet is still some guy wishing projared well.. this was only 2 days ago it was posted so she knew at that point. Snakey.
No. 805820
>>805794That’s them alright.
Feeling curious, I listened in to Holly’s last mental health Monday’s stream. Yeesh. It seems more like she’s just ranting on her mental health state than actually being informative about it. 1, she listed off the meds she’s taken in the past and how they didn’t work 2. Hopeful about beginning on Prozac because it should take care of her OCD (she claims to have looping thoughts like anyone with anxiety, just not rituals). Says she hasn’t been diagnosed with it yet. Ok. 3. Talks about how she’s terrified of being perceived as flirting when she’s just being friendly because she’s asexual. She was getting along with someone and someone gave her his number. She went into the car and cried (????). oh woe is me, it’s so hard being asexual. 4. Someone in the chat asked about sex being good for mental health. Doing things that are pleasurable are great for mental health, holly said. Hmm…
That’s when I stopped watching. It’s all so funny under a different light
No. 805822
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She used to whine on social media whenever she'd get slightest criticism and had anxiety because she wasn't liked by literally everyone.
I wonder how she feels now.
No. 805833
>>805820I like how the internet's definition of a mental health expert is basically a coward who can't set boundaries but can cry loudly about all their problems that result from not setting boundries. Just tell the dude you're not interested jfc. If he's pushy after that, THEN maybe there's something worth crying over, but being so brittle you need be the
victim in every possibly situation is not admirable or healthy, and no one that deep in mental illness should be running weekly mental health advice streams.
>>805755I agree most of the time it's better off left out of the game because so many nerds are emotionally immature, but I think there are cases of other famous table top players pulling it off well. For example Dodger was dating/engaged while on a show with DJ Wheat who was married with a kid, and their characters had a serious relationship in game but they were never weird about it to the extent that Jared and Holly were, never made weird comments on fan art, or hammed it up to bait the fans, or felt the need to fuck, and even when fans were shipping it hard they kept it classy in game and only let the relationship be as relevant as it needed to be, they didn't let fans or players push their boundaries. They were just adults about it and kept control of the situation.
No. 805842
>>805841Yeah, Jessica Merizan, they started a company together (there was some old drama with that too).
Jessica eventually became best friends with Chloe Dykstra after Holly recycled her. Coincidentally Chloe also had a moment in the news not too long ago when she came out against he own
abusive bf (though in the long run nothing happened except Chloe got pushed further out of the geek-sphere). Both Chloe and Jess left cosplay because of "
toxic people". In Chloe's case I think it was her ex, in Jessica's case I think it was Holly. I've been looking at their old stuff because I'm pretty sure there was a stream where they said Jessica was the one with a rough past who had to deal with addicts/negligence in her family as a kid, not Holly, but it seems that the only steams that got archived from that era was their "crabcast" streams, but I recall seeing it in a crafting stream not a crabcast stream, so I guess the evidence is gone.
No. 805844
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>>805842Link if you find anything interesting. I've been trying to dig some things too.
Also read this post from Ross… Poor dude knew Holly was cheating.
No. 805858
>>805826I think some anons mentioned that the law about this is different in their state? It was mentioned in the last thread.
>>805796They may as well drop her too, though. She's going to get a well-deserved boo when she comes on stage from here on out and she's not blameless in the sticky situation that she and Jared put DCA in.
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Well I really hope she doesn't mean what I think she means and read more into it. Both her and Chloe seemed to vague tweet support for holly talking about how cancel culture is stupid.
That's really sad all things considered since Chloe also some what recently had to deal with her massively controlling/abusive and manipulating ex that she also posted publically about. I'm surprised they aren't on Heidi's side since they've been through something similar.
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Satchell is no longer a part of Normal Boots. He does not want to be associated with them after the whole Jared fiasco.
https://twitter.com/SatchellDrakes/status/1127613246687543296 No. 805874
>>805863Yeah there are especially twitch streamers just this week one created a patreon just to make money helping others with mental wellness but they have zero medical training
Seriously it's a huge thing
No. 805875
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>>805864The comments are full of people crying over how
toxic cancel culture is. You'd think she'd be able to relate given the similarities to her own experiences but it doesn't look like it.
No. 805880
>>805858Correct, their particular state it can't be used against them, so while Jared is indeed wrong and getting what he deserves, we literally only are going on Heidi's words regarding Holly. "I have texts/nudes!" but there's no proof of it. Heidi's friend "confirms it" - In normal circumstances people tend to not believe he said she said situations.
The only reason it's being believed is because it sparked the movement against Jared with others coming out ACTUALLY showing proof of at least that side of the story (snapchat/tumblr sexting.)
But as of right now, it's only people trying to piece together "huh..now that you think about it jared and holly does seem awfully chummy!"
And before some dumbass claims I'm defending anyone, no, it's not defense, I'm speaking as a third party to the whole situation because the only other implication is Holly "going dark" which is indeed damning.
No. 805885
>>805875I find it stupid when people compare this shit to actual
toxic cancel culture where the cancelling is "they looked in the direction of someone I don't like" rather then being a literal cheating pedo like with this. Go cancel the latter with all you can.
No. 805886
>>805875The way people are bashing Holly looks are really
toxic tbh. It's not about looks and even if it was cheating by itself is wrong and looks should not be something that make it better or worse.
No. 805888
>>805883By legal team I mean their personal lawyers not law enforcement, dingus. They didn't even go to the cops or suggest that the
victim go to the cops (because this shit was way above their pay grade), so no time was spent on a real "investigation", just on damage control.
No. 805894
>>805886I do agree, even though Holly does look fucking hideous. Her looks shouldn't be the focus, what should be is that she slept with her
friend's husband. Not once, not twice, but many times over a long period of time. She also actively tried to split them up if we go by what Heidi says. The point is, Holly knew it was fucking wrong but would act chummy with Heidi as if she wasn't fucking Heidi's husband. It also raises suspicions that because of the time when the affair started and her divorce happened, she could have been cheating on Ross. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a "Let's leave our spouses and be together" situation.
On top of that, she didn't even offer an apology to Heidi. The bitch went to Jared and offered her vaginal support if he needed anything, then called Heidi, his wife and her friend, a rando on the internet. She used "you guys know me" as if Heidi wasn't anyone important, because Holly's the important one and you should believe
her. At least that's what the general public should believe in Holly's eyes. That's what makes Holly really fucked up.
No. 805899
>>805883if you are dumb enough to think that internal company investigations are the same as legal investigations then holly wants to tell you about her "legal investigations" that involved giving
victims' personal information to jared.
No. 805930
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>>805875>>805859How hipocritical of this types, cancel culture sucks now does it? when is some rando conservative who made a joke 10 years ago then its fucking amazing how much social justice has achieved, but when its me and my buddies? noooooooo
No. 805946
>>805874That's sick. It's really no different than randos pretending to speak on authority for physical medical conditions.
>>805891Wasn't there some sort of controversy surrounding the veracity of her accusations? That's a good theory though. iirc people didn't seem to take her accusations nearly as seriously as these, and her accusations were much worse (though from what I remember she didn't have the proof that Heidi and the teens did)
>>805934I think what's happened here is that people who aren't involved in nerd culture are hearing about it and astounded by the fact that:
1. An ugly guy has managed to get so much sexual attention
2. He cheated with a woman who looks much worse than his actual wife does in photos
No. 805952
>>805946Prior to all this, people who liked Jared had some wild idea that Heidi was horrible or lame compared to him and often called her man-face
It's just the common thing for the bad side to be called ugly for one reason or another
No. 805953
>>805946> Wasn't there some sort of controversy surrounding the veracity of her accusations? Yeah, she got some initial support and companies pulled away from her ex for a hot second, but the tides turned within the day and things went back to normal and she got even less work for speaking up. To be honest, without the other
victims coming forward, I expect the same thing would have happened to Heidi, but it really was a perfect storm that brought this all together.
>>805906>>805906I know she called out Chris Hardwick, but is there another instance you all are referring to? See above, but from what I recall she didn't benefit from the situation at all in the long run. I haven't kept tabs on her since but seeing as her banner pic on twitter is still that stupid diminuendo movie from forever ago it seems like she hasn't done anything of substance since then, so it seems like if anything that the call out killed her career.
No. 805961
>>805205I haven't seen gg in ages but from what I remember suzy does all the budgeting/scheduling/managing their collective ADHD
everyone thinks she's a buzzkill but really she's just the entire team's mom
No. 806007
>>805999I mean, literally nothing wrong with that. The BIGGEST THING is to not fuck your FRIEND'S HUSBAND.
SOMEONE WHO HAS THE GENERAL SAME GROUP OF FRIENDS.
No. 806010
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>>806005Everyone would bypass someone`s shortcomings if they like a person and she has a nice personality, but once a person proves to be an asshole petty critiques are back on the menu.
If you called Holly fat before all this then people would have jumped you, today she is just an asshole. I have a friend who has never heard of Holly but she is a chubby kind of manic pixie asexual girl who likes nerd stuff, she has done no harm to nobody so i can understand how reading some of the comments can be upsetting for people who share those traits but one has to look at the big pictura
No. 806028
>>806016It sounds like that one bit from Bob's Burgers where the dude "has PTSD" from being in an acapella group.
>>805961Iirc she just does PR mostly. She did a lot of the fan involved stuff back in the day. I don't really know what she does now since Ali and some other girl seem to do that now. They have a whole office with people doing that kind of stuff now.
No. 806030
>>806028>I don't really know what she does now Coasting and squeezing that extra dough from the brand pushing her chinese merch and stuff like that.
I don`t even criticize her for it. She can just dress up and play scene girl forever while the checks come in, no one in GG is doing any effort, they can literally troll everyone with shitty merch and bad content and fans will buy into it and send more money their way.
No. 806057
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i remember thinking how "nerd" tryhard their wedding was. If i remember correctly she based Ross's outfit for the wedding on the tenth doctor from doctor who
No. 806068
>>806066Yeah it sounds like there's a lot of middle schoolers here haha
Age has nothing to do with it, babies. Shitty people are shitty people regardless of their age.
No. 806073
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sageing cause it's not new information but I found a screenshot going in slightly more detail about the crabcat/VA drama
No. 806076
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going to cgl and looking up "crabcat" yields discourse about the events and jessica/holly at a more relevant timeframe (as opposed to now where it's all old news)
this is just one post out of numerous, so there were definitely people very salty at holly even back then, but I'm assuming that most people who stanned her these years during the uwu cute girl phase didn't know her from crabcat, but rather as Ross' wife
No. 806078
>>806076>her crying over people not picking the femshep that looks like herWhy would anyone want a cross-eyed Femshep with terf bangs?
It sounds like Holly just masked her cunt side after Ross.
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(again not necessarily new but that holly was crying/complaining online for a long time along with anons saying her costume was commissioned by someone else)
never watched HoC so I don't know the specifics tbh but lots of anons saying she didn't even make her costume
No. 806094
>>805952The audience might be a big factor in that case too. Jared's fans were probably teens whose arsenal of insults mostly revolve around attractiveness. In viewing threads outside of the streaming community, most of the comments about how they all look are along the lines of 'how did this absolute dweeb manage to lure in teens' and 'wow he really downgraded'. Sort of like how as a kid you'd sneak episodes of Jerry Springer on days off and wonder how any of the subjects could get laid so often and by so many people.
>>805953>Yeah, she got some initial support and companies pulled away from her ex for a hot second, but the tides turned within the day and things went back to normal and she got even less work for speaking up. From what I remember in a non-gaming community primarily full of males, people were initially willing to believe her but skeptical, and as soon as Hardwick released a response the opinion turned completely in Hardwick's favor.
I wonder what makes Heidi more sympathetic than Chloe. imo it could be the strong cheating factor, which is something that the average person has strong feelings about, whereas Chloe's story involved mostly emotional abuse that the average person can't identify with. I also wonder if her disapproval of the backlash against Jared and Holly is the result of the backlash that she got; it would definitely be the most understanding reason behind her stupid reaction.
>>806059You're not; it's really fucking embarrassing and hopefully this isn't the new normal.
>>806068>Age has nothing to do with it, babies. Shitty people are shitty people regardless of their age.Shitty people usually express their shittiness in different ways as they grow older and pass different milestones. Though maybe Jared and Holly are keeping up with the bleeding-edge methods of being shitty
No. 806099
>>806097LOL okay r/iamverysmart. If you say so.
Stupid is as stupid does and age does nothing to change that. Same goes for shitty.
No. 806100
>>806097LOL okay r/iamverysmart. If you say so.
Stupid is as stupid does and age does nothing to change that. Same goes for shitty.
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>>805872>i never really knew jaredi somehow doubt that.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BgIZG67AAYp/honestly it's begun to look really sketchy to me how eager some of the NB folk have been to drop jared. it's like they know things
can get potentially much worse than they already are? tinfoiling here but i'm not sure the other guys are as free of blame as they'd want us to believe. this is going to make my freaking year if jared returns to twitter and starts exposing all of his former friends for the same crap lmao
No. 806112
>>806101I mean first jontron, then jared. PGB and the manager also tried it when they implied that it was Heidi the
abusive one in the relationship (and they only apologized when the NB pr team announced that Jared had been fired)
The whole group seems tainted, jirard was very smart when he started with the charity
No. 806113
>>806076>>806081I remember all of this stuff. Holly was always insufferable. It's honestly hilarious how she revamped her image with the whole GG association. Back around that time no one really liked Holly. People thought she was annoying from the ME stuff and most people didn't like her through HoC stuff.
It's honestly wild how she revamped her image, managed to create a small fanbase only to completely destroy it.
I always wondered what happened to the other Crabcat person.
No. 806114
>>806073thanks for these anon.
With all this coming out you'd think other people would speak up about her terrible behavior in the past now they won't be teared to shreds for her uwu im a anxious smol bean image she was trying to portray all these years.
No. 806126
>>805825>>805826>>805858>>805880There are two separate legal issues being discussed: the divorce and the underage sexting.
Washington is a no fault divorce state. Heidi's evidence of Jared cheating with Holly is irrelevant.
No. 806127
>>806126Yep, I'm the third poster you tagged. The one I was referring to was this
>>805764 As you said, Washington is a no fault divorce state so Heidi doesn't have to hide the text messages since they won't matter anyway.
No. 806134
>>806101Still
valid to say he didn’t really know Jared. You can work with someone or even have mutual friends with them, but not ever hang out with them on a personal level. I don’t think taking a selfie at a hotel, for what I’m guessing was for them being a guest at a con, really counts as like “knowing” him but that’s just how I see it
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uh oh another jared nude leaked, view at your own risk :((((
No. 806165
>>806154>>806134>>806117>>806112>>806030>>806010>>805961>>805971>>805895>>805894>>805883>>805885>>805848>>805851>>805849>>804793>>805178Are these all samefag or are there really that many newfags who don't know how to sage?
Can we get extra moderation maybe? It's hard to report and move on at this volume of no sage/armchair/blogposting/newfag
No. 806168
>>805682on the flipside, I've never seen it as a "desexing" thing, it's either a respect thing (like cosplay mom) or a seuxal thing (the recent "mommy" kink meme going on w horny guys) This is coming from someone who gets called a "mom". Some people like it and some don't.
>>805698uh, no. Plenty of women without children like and embrace the title of a "mom" either for fetish or other reasons
No. 806171
>>805943literally same. I even tried bringing up her shady past in previous suzy threads but was quickly shut down. I'm glad to see the goblin get torn to shreds over the internet and people see who she truly is.
I see her being "asexual" as giving an excuse for most guys to leave her alone, and when shes interested in someone (dming ross first if I remember correctly, fucking jared) she'll throw it out the window
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Congrats Jared, 200k subs just this week!
No. 806186
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Anyone else has this problem? I'm unable to click on Jared's tweets. Retweet/comment/like counter doesn't show up either.
Did he disable comments and retweets?
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>>806186it's working fine for me
No. 806194
>>806184kek, money isn't going to matter in jail.
>>806094> I wonder what makes Heidi more sympathetic than Chloe.I think it's that part about Jared being a pedo. I like Heidi more and feel she handled things a little better, but public figures regularly get forgiven for spousal abuse and cheating. The general public doesn't care about nitpicking that kind of stuff nearly as much as this site does. Pedos though? No one wants to touch a pedo. In fact people want to not-support a pedo so bad that they'll vocally stan Heidi even if they were telling her things should have been "kept private" at the start. I'm really glad things worked out for Heidi, but I don't think it was totally her own doing.
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>>806075She was a snake, even then, plus getting into a relationship with Ross (they had met shortly before this) gave her a ton a positive PR for no reason. People on CGL were seriously saying that Jessica was
toxic and Holly just got in too deep trying because her friend was greedy. There were serious mental gymnastics to protect Holly.
If she didn't meet Ross she wouldn't have the career she has now. Not only did he protect her from criticism when she fucked up just by being associated with her (and she fucked up a lot), but he also introduced her to all her current friends and thereby indirectly gave her all her current opportunities. He also probably financially supported her more than she likes to admit. Back then cosplay was different, she certainly didn't make enough money for the life she lived, and coincidentally she got her huge garage workshop with a lot of fancy equipment when they moved in together. People used to like nitpicking Heidi for being stuck up but I appreciate how she was at least honest about how Jared supported her as a cosplayer.
>>806194More proof they don't really care about Heidi: @Cheratomo at twitter, the asagao academy writer and wife of Todd the editor, supported Jared at the start and labeled Heidi as "drama". Now that she's been outed as Miss Editor (to be honest I thought this was an open secret since she did editing work for soem of Jared friends too?) she's getting a ton of support messages about bouncing back from the situation and thriving and moving on. But she didn't suffer at all throughout this, she even liked tweets suppressing the
victim, they just want to praise anyone who is NOT the pedo in this situation even if they fucked up.
No. 806228
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Comments on all her videos are disabled. She needs to just put out an apology already.
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No. 806307
So, I’m going to call it.
I think Jessica and Chloe might be defending Holly because it’s quite possible that Jared manipulated Holly into thinking that Heidi was a terrible person. Maybe he feigned “abuse” in order for Holly to sympathize with him, and maybe that’s why she went along with the affair ultimately.
If that happened, it’s a pretty flawed excuse and still stupid, but I can for some reason imagine that happening, knowing Jared’s character.
Also, I wonder if Holly even knew about the extent of his fucked up behavior. Heidi knew about the Snapchat shit with his fans, but I don’t think she knew that he was fucking them at conventions, or that he was sexting minors.
Now that the world knows, I wonder if Holly will still stay with him. I’d imagine she’d run for the hills, knowing all of this creepy shit.
No. 806312
>>806307I'm sure that's what Holly would want you to believe, but seeing the language she uses to defend her self and speak about metal illness, it really reads like she's an active manipulator too. Also two of the underage
victims specified that they had contacted Holly and that they suspect Holly gave their contact information to Jared, so it's likely she knew some of the shit he was up to besides cheating even if she didn't know every detail.
Also Heidi stated that although at the start on tumble she had asked to see all exchanged but jared started hiding them, so she didn't know everything. She even specifies that the snapchat was made in secret and she didn't learn until later.
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found this while looking through Heidi's blog, it's sad to look back on it now
No. 806317
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>>806308I'm not sure how long exactly but this is from Heidi's announcement after the flood, they had their new house ready so they were pretty far along in the moving process at that point
https://atelierheidi.tumblr.com/post/165127830150/hey-guys-i-have-bad-news-to-share-today-my No. 806323
>>806307That is a lot of ifs and buts and maybes to extend sympathy for someone who knowingly fucked her friend's husband – and had an affair with him! And then tried to gaslit and rugsweep that same "friend" publicly.
I don't care a jot if she's "uwu flawed human uwu", that is a major conga line of big fuck ups that most people manage to somehow avoid through not. being. utter. assholes. Stop whiteknighting her.
No. 806341
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>>806307I'm gonna call it. You're a white-knight.
If your good friend fucked your partner behind your back and feigned friendship towards you, it wouldn't matter if the ~poor wittle bean~ had been manipulated or whatever and that's a huge if like
>>806323 said.
And ignorance is not an excuse.
Jessica and Chloe are idiots.
I'm living for the dragging of Jared and Holly and all the funny memes and posts itt.
pic unrelated
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Looked through some recent tweets, incase anyone gets a cute idea of trying to defend Holly, Whiteknight Holly or assume Jared just "manipulated" her.
No. 806348
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Huh, not sure if this is OT but I didn't know Holly's grandpa was a real deal animator. The Trivia section links to Holly's imdb (since she was on TV/in that documentary) so I assume that's him? Not sure if this was the grandpa she was so close to, but since it says he died in 2011 I would guess so.
Also his old twitter is still up where he follows Ross and Holly (kind of a bummer)
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>>806348Nvm I take it back, it's actually a HUGE bummer. His blog is still up with entries only months before he died, basically talking about how proud he was of Holly.
>In my book of memoirs, "Flyin’ Chunks and Other Things to Duck", I wrote the Afterword about Holly and her future.>Holly and her futureyikes
No. 806367
>>806307While that could make sense, it does not clear up the fact that Holly was pretending to be friends with Heidi during the entire time she was having relations with him. It takes a special kind of messed up person to do that.
Believing him/trying to 'save' him is one thing, but a normal person would have either distanced themselves from the
abusive spouse or tried to encourage the
victim to seek out help instead of getting personally involved to a point where they are pushing for a new relationship to escape an old
abusive one. That alone is very manipulative and enabling. (And think about it, if the genders were reversed it would be instantly abhorrent to most.) Keeping up a friendship with Holly at the same time comes across as almost being a sociopath, so for someone who tries to be a mental health advocate, well…
She had very clear intentions which can be seen by both her actions and also how she responded on twitter. There isn't really any way for her to spin things at this point.
No. 806375
>>806344That seems pretty believable to me.
From released chatlogs (of other Jared's
victims), he was mostly creeping for nudes and sex. He wouldn't mention his wife other than lie that they are in an open relationship.
Holly on the other hand, from what was seen, seems very insecure and is probably jealous as hell of other women. Heidi is a cosplayer and costume maker like her, but also way more talented not to mention more attractive looks wise.
I believe Holly started crushing on Jared during their DnD campaign and when they started their affair, she also got a high of stealing Heidi's husband. It fed her insecurities and false sense of superiority. That's why she wasn't just content with being a side bitch, she wanted to become a main bitch too.
It's not hard to believe she was obsessed with shittalking Heidi while trying to "win".
No. 806392
>>806379I hope they keep defending her and some of Holly's white knights try to address Heidi. That'll probably prompt Heidi to drop some chat logs of what a vile person Holly was about her. And I'm posting this as someone who found Holly slightly endearing/slightly annoying. I remember just recently someone posted a video of that mystery taco deal with Taco Bell and Ross was ADORABLE while Holly seemed to play the annoyed GF role and I started to wondering if Holly was as likable as it seemed in the GG threads here.
I do love that this sage brings to light the stupid manic panic pixie mental health fairy motif. People with mental health problems struggle and don't uwu on the internet for clout.
No. 806403
>>806398Youre either blindly in love with her, or her herself.
Seriously though, how is everything she has done NOT manipulative and knowingly shitty?
No. 806410
>>806404Tinfoil but we know she posts and browses on cosplay boards herself, and cgl i think, she def knows this place, and who wouldnt lurk and post in a thread about themselves?
Shes probably too retarded to be morw low key and thats why its obvious
No. 806413
>>806398How about wrap your head around this fact: while Holly was fucking around with Jared behind Ross and Heidi's back for at least a year, she was also aware of his tumblr. Imagine willingly messing around with a married man who was also sharing nudes with his fans. You have to be a crazy retarded bitch to want someone like that. So the idea that she was possibly helping him prey on fans is not farfetched at all. Plus, explain why those fans who are already
victims of Jared would want to drag Holly in on it just for fun?
No. 806423
>>806398This isn't a criminal case. We don't need proof beyond a reasonable doubt. This isn't a civil case where we need preponderance of evidence. This is a case of public opinion. And we've got enough circumstantial evidence, along with
victims who say it's what they believe with other statements by Heidi who does have proof/evidence of Holly's character. Until we see solid proof that Holly is somewhat redeeming in any of this we can believe what we want. Sorry that's not enough for you, but I think it's previous likely she leaked that shit to Jared and I believe Heidi vs. Hideaway Holly. I swear a lot of whiners are crying about "RUINED CAREERS" based off of allegations, but it's really ruined careers based off of the public's decision not to give subpar shit heads attention and money.
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going through old threads knowing what we know now is very bittersweet
No. 806474
>>805953It doesn't help either that Chris Hardwick married the heiress of the Hearst family.
As in, William Randolph Hearst and Hearst Communications, which owns a ton of major publications and broadcasting channels. It's no surprise this was swept under the rug, and it would be a crazy uphill battle for Chloe to be taken seriously for any mainstream work in the future
No. 806476
>>806474That, and it doesn't help Chloe that she is unlikeable in a generic wet cardboard, blonde mean girl kind of way - or that she has no noticeable talent or personality to market, really.
It's easy to rugsweep someone who's a bit of a lolcow nobody in her own right, and then the Hearst Communications stuff… well.
No. 806479
>>806446>>806455Add the cherry on top of the shit sundae - Holly was suppose to be a close friend of Heidi's. That makes her garbage.
Then again I'm not 100% sure that Heidi wasn't aware of something going on between them. I can imagine it starting out as uwu flirting, and because Heidi was the cool girl who looked at boobs with her boyfriend/husbando I don't think the idea of a FWB thing between Holly and PedoJarad is far out there. I've seen it in relationships with people who are a little less mature and trying to find their way sexually. The whole "open relationship" sounds fine until the fling with a friend turns into a full blown affair.
Then again again, Holly could have used the asexual card to divert attention away from the fact that she was fucking Heidi's husband. Who knows?
sage for speculation
No. 806489
>>806476You nailed it with Chloe having no personality or talent of her own
It’s a bit weird when she introduces her…and then goes with “my dad invented the lightsaber”
No. 806531
>>806528I don't think being catty/bratty about cosplay is really equal or deserving to being cheated on and
abusive/gaslit for a year
If anything, maybe this will humble her and she'll be more of a positive force in the community? Or not. We'll see
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>>806528You mean this? It's her opinion on a technique, she's not wrong, wasn't rude about it, and mentioned multiple viable alternatives. It also has absolutely nothing to do with getting cheated on. If she was being wronged as a cosplayer, you'd still be nitpicky with this, but these two things have nothing in common, so you sound like you're just trying to find reasons to put her down because of her "history" of having higher standards than the average "cosplay should be fun" weeb.
No. 806566
>>806351>degree in Medieval studies Wow, a worthless degree that's unironically a meme on the same level as underwater basket weaving.
I can't wait until I can go to Seattle and see Holly work at a Starbucks after her career ends up dying!
No. 806581
>>806568She may even have been 'ok with it' because Jared made it a condition of their relationship. See how there's no context to that at all?
You're being really transparent.
No. 806584
>>806564"I don't have much pity for a girl who was abused for over a year then cheated on with her best friend…. she once was maybe mean, I have no proof of that claim and heard it maybe from someone who heard it maybe from someone who says that maybe he saw her maybe. "
"But take what you want from my post about my opinion and stay pressed i guess"
:^)
No. 806592
>>805842I'm a day late on this but Chloe's
abusive bf was Chris Hardwick, btw. in case anyone liked him for some reason
No. 806596
>>806592OT but after reading about Hardwick and all his crazy shit I couldn't stomach even seeing him on TV anymore
Another example of male feminist, nerd boy who's just a garbage snake in disguise.
No. 806597
>>806592whoops, turns out it already came up
>>806596yeah he fuckin sucks
No. 806599
>>806423Also, if she really was innocent on multiple counts she really should've at least addressed something publicly. Staying quiet about being a home wrecker is one thing, but not publicly stating that she refuses to associate with a pido is pretty telling. She could've easily gone public about being done with him once that stuff came out, but by being silent it basically shows not only is she enabling the situation but also comes across as very suspicious.
She probably wants to stay in a relationship with him.
No. 806616
>>806602Ross was streaming though. He binged out on McDonalds and drew a Kawaii Monster Girl. Nobody said the H word so good cheer all around.
>>806611That's what I'm only hoping for. It's not the smartest bet.
"Local woman found dead in home. Her corpse eaten by 50 pigeons."
That would be the smartest bet.
No. 806620
>>806616The smartest bet would be to not sleep with a married man but holly is beyond that now
Ha I like your headline, would be fitting if she was found in a pigeon costume too
No. 806621
>>806543yea I'm inclined to think some anons are sensitive to criticism on techniques. She wasn't being elitist in this post and I looked through some old posts and didn't see anything too bratty or diva like. People are allowed to have their opinions about shit and disagree/agree with things, that doesn't make them elitist.
And honestly even if there WAS a bratty post, it doesn't mean it was okay for her to deal with bullshit from holly/projared and his antics for a fucking YEAR +.
No. 806658
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meanwhile holly was liking sexual fanart of her dnd character and jareds
No. 806686
>>806592oh shit dude, I have a connection to him (someone in his team) so I'm gonna ask them about this. idk if they'd talk shit on their boss but, he knows the ins and outs enough to give us a heads up when Hardwick's shows get cancelled lmao
sage cause this should probs be in celebricows, if I find any milk I'll divulge in that thread.
re: Heidi's degree: if I didn't have to work to live paycheck to paycheck I'd do a useless degree and live my hobby too. seems like a huge nitpick no offense.
No. 806726
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>>806658Ross drew what her character was supposed to be (at least in the beginning).
Holly liked and praised fanart where her self-insert was a kawaii witch girl and Jared's was her bishounen boyfriend.
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>>806726Fanart really does make these two far more attractive than they "officially" are. Gosh, as someone who dabbles in tabletop I'd kill to have so much art for any one of my characters, and for Jared & Holly it doubles as art of their affair.
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>>806694>half-assed hyperbolic statement about a single tweet taken out of contextpic related
>>806722feels a bit like some newfag stans found their way here, were sent or it's Holly herself, Keeks and Dasha style. or just farmers who are critical of everyone
>>806726>>806730it's just so believable that they got off to all this fanart emotionally and physically and to the thrill of the affair hidden in plain sight
barf No. 806745
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>>806730there is just so much fanart…
No. 806773
>>806599She deleted her "I'm here for you." tweet so that's basically the same thing, stop being so hard on her, don't you know she has anxiety? uwu
>>806606This. Also, considering Holly claims her parents had addictions and MS to deal with, even if her Grandpa was frugal and saved up or got money form other ventures to pass on, it was probably already spent.
No. 806774
>>806726>>806745>>806746I never watched any of their stuff so forgive me if these are dumb questions, but why is there so much fanart of their D&D characters together? Don't these artists think it's a bit weird to draw pornographic art of obvious self-inserts, especially when they're married to different people? Did Heidi play D&D? Why didn't they draw shippy art of her character with Jared's? Am I just overthinking it and they're just supposed to be dumb roleplaying characters?
I wonder how these artists feel about their fanart now.
No. 806780
>>806617I also recall seeing that it was the Seattle house (and not the LA house) she inherited on twitter. Def feel like that was a factor in Jared planning to move there with Heidi.
>>806621It's not even like she pointed anyone out or used example photos. And she explained a better alternative technique. People are just butt hurt that they are shit tier cosplayers. Do these people also hate the cosplayers that always give PSAs on weathering and how un-weathered props look bad?
>>806658Ooof, this hurts to see.
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No. 806785
>>806686The medieval studies degree people were talking about was Holly's degree, Heidi has one in theatre costumes and prop production.Not saying it's a top tier degree, but it's more useful, and considering her career goals it suits them well.
>>806694Just because someone fucked up worse means that all her fuck ups are forgiven even though she participated in the abuse of oen of her best friends and also betrayed the trust of underage
victims of Jared?
>>806746Why is there so much lewd art of this pairing specifically? I don't follow DCA but I follow other RP shows with RP couples and haven't seen as much lewd art as when I searched this pair. They must have really stoked the flames and encouraged fans.
Considering that Jared said this was his DnD character for like 15 years before DCA even started I hope it's ruined for him. Holly too, though I'm not sure how long she played with Strix or if that was an original character for DCA.
>>806783Is that from Ross' wedding? Rough.
No. 806798
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I love pur but I find it suspicious that she said they were never friends. At one point Jared (along with PBG) were in her sidebar of channel. I recall that she removed PBG at one point but kept jared (she had coincidentally commented about feeling jealous of more successful friends shortly after). Now she has removed the list of channels altogether.
No. 806829
>>806798I'd be a little more respectful if this one didn't spend her younger years drooling all over Spoony One's dick. Like, he made a pass at you and he's a married man and you're just now reflecting on that being a skeevy thing to do because it's out in the open?
Sage for ot
No. 806885
>>806686Chloe cheated on Chris Hardwick with Sam Witwer, Chris has receipts via text messaging. She’s a cheater just like Holly.
Please refrain to Chloe’s Kiwifarms for now on, this is a GG thread
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/chloe-dykstra-spills-all-on-chris-hardwick.44396/ No. 806901
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No. 806910
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>>806885Not going to discuss that situation in depth, but considering that Chloe and Jess had been vauge tweeting about Heidi's statement I think it's fair to say:
HOLY SHIT what a stupid hypocrite, no wonder they're jealous. I had no idea this happened, but it's fucking comical. The best part is that in both cases had the
abusive person (Chloe/Jared) just not said anything, their
victims would have not responded and shit would have all gone in their favor. I know some of the underage fans said they were getting ready to come forward, but considering they'd be waiting over a year and they had already come forward to NormalBoots and several creators including Holly and had no real action to show for it, I could see them either deciding to not go through with it (due to lack of support) or getting buried/suppressed when they did. Bless Heidi for starting this, not only is there justice but we're also getting the best memes I've seen in a while.
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No. 806953
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For anyone left who wants to believe that Heidi is doing this just to be spiteful. The proof of NB trying to get rid of him earlier than her announcements is in the threads.
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>>806985Okay.
>>804120 April 4th was a month before this debacle. While they didn't post it until the 9th, they had obviously already made plans to drop him for inappropriate things.
No. 807001
>>806998Their word is totally trust worthy considering that they had evidence of soliciting minors for over a month and didn't go to the cops.
kek the announcement of them dropping jared that happened when the drama was in full swing does not count as proof that they were taking any real action to drop him beforehand. This was also after one of the underage
victims posted the emails between themselves and NBs to boot (no pun intended).
No. 807009
>>806998press [x] to doubt
It really shouldn't have taken a month
No. 807022
>>807015Thing is anon, if they're affiliated with any monetization platforms, Jared would have had to finish up his month REGARDLESS because of contract obligations.
So the timing LITERALLY could be a coincidence.
No. 807041
>>807006May 9th.
>>806998If this is true, then why was Furst, NB's manager, defending Jared to the death on twitter? Am I supposed to believe that their manager does not monitor their business account and was not made aware of the allegations???
No. 807064
>>806780She inherited the house in Glendale from her grandparents. It has his art all over the inside.
When she first moved to Seattle she spent a long time looking for a place to live so she definintely did not already have an inherited house there.
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>>807055I don't think Holly was a shut-in, she frequently traveled and did stuff. Her depression isn't so crippling that she can't function (or wasn't before the backlash, anyway). I guess her best friend's husband's dick gave her the strength to persevere.
No. 807119
>>807022You're a dumb ass and that is still not proof. NormalBoots was barely active and in it's current iteration isn't a monetization platform or CDN of any form. I know it was in it's past iterations, but for the last few years it has just been a group of friends boosting each other's videos. There were no contracts to deal with, no one even uses the normal boots logo in their videos anymore, again because there are no contacts. As of the last few years, it was just a site made by friends to link each other and boost each other, and to occasionally collab under the name for a video or dating sim of whatever they felt like. If you go to their current site all the old content is gone, it's basically just exists to list the personal youtube channels of the members. They fucked up, and your "proof" is shit. They still should have went to the cops and not managed it internally.
Seriously, why are you shitting up the thread with "uwu Heidi is evil and NormalBoots is innocent" garbage? Are you Holly?
No. 807120
>>807119Double posting but I wanted to add that I like how your argument was "Well they said they were going to remove him eventually…" and totally glazed over the whole bit about not reporting the soliciting of minors. They had evidence from a
victim, not just an accusation. Removing him without reporting him is still fucked up and meant that they only cared about their image and not about
victims.
No. 807124
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projared smash stage
No. 807129
>>807124Amazing, truly amazing. Jared can never live this down at this point
Also I've just been watching RubberNinja's streams recently and man I just truly realized that Holly is such a fool. Like I know everyone puts on a persona to show people in public, but man Ross is genuinely adorable, funny, and an alright dude. And Holly gave that up for PedoJared's dick?? Ross was too good for her.
No. 807130
>>807129I take comfort seeing that every other part of the internet I’ve everyone expresses sympathy to Ross
It’s nice to see that he is liked that much
No. 807137
>>806998> weak ass proofanon people already saw this, they don't doubt that normal boots spoke up, they just think that what they said when they spoke up was stupid. kinda like you.
>>807022lol who said shit about a contract? are you really making shit up because you can't stand to see your youtube idols get dragged?
>>807135he posted it to his tumblr/insta, it was just a "funny" pic at the time while he made a lot of "jokes" about asking for nudes on tumblr but it's gross/hilarous now that people realize he actually was seriously soliciting nudes
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>>806998This isn't proof. Also looks like they can't even keep their story straight among themselves, in the statement they said Jaques presumably concluded his investigation and made some moves to remove Jared (doesn't really make sense he'd say no one to anyone else at that point but okay) but then told Shane the "investigation" is on going which contradicts that. Shane even clearly states that the info going public forced them to make a statement. Also, again, why does this Jaques asshat think he can run a "private investigation"? Does he think he's magnum PI? Is he a 1337 hax0r that can get the forensic data from Jared's devices? I can't fathom how he thought it was more appropriate to run a "private investigation" rather than go to the cops. I can understand if the others weren truly unaware but even then they really need to take a good hard look at how dysfunctional their organizational structure is if Jaques could get away with that for over a month with no oversight, and NormalBoots deserves to be held accountable for that.
>>807022April 4th to May 9th is more than a month, and that's a pretty shitty theory anyways. When was the last time NormalBoots was monetized? They don't even host videos anymore.
No. 807150
>>806464Oh god. There are some golden moments.
>OH… is that… Holly?>It looks just like me!>Wait, Holly, what are you doing with my friends? Is there something I should know?>And that other girl looks like Heidi!Though, my personal fav had to be when Ross said
>Jared get the fuck away from my wife, I'll kill you. No. 807161
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>>807181>asking someone to prove that they're right is being spoonfed>watering down their "proof" with insultshaha ok
>>807209I've always thought style and grace was a nod to DK 64 and Lanky Kong's lack thereof.
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From ProJared's SocialBlade Profile
https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UC2e0bNZ6CzT-Xvr070VaGswThe sub losses have trickled down considerably from the last few days because of other drama going around, but damn going from 1mil to 815K in the span of a week is just impressive.
No. 807237
>>807235Plus, fat lot of good money will do for him in prison
If the posts about him being reported to the authorities are true.
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Twitter is still going wild. Griffith, I'm so sorry…
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Steal muh OC uwu
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No. 807315
>>807221your level of laziness is absurd, even for lolcow.
>>807001>>807009>>807119>>807120>>807142they're all direct responses to you, you're willfully being ignorant. as I said in my last post, just read the responses to you (although it was already discussed higher up before you reposted the normal boots statement if you bothered to read the thread.)
No. 807322
>>807290Are you retarded? What does googling have anything to do with it, its something pretty much all nintendo gamers know, even if it was recorded a month ago with no connection to projared they still probably said it as a reference to donkey Kong.
I agree that it probably has nothing to do with Jared but the googling point makes absolutely no fucking sense
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Sage for off topic question, but stuff is coming out about RelaxAlax, is there a good, not-dead thread to discuss it in? The only sorta recent one I saw was Youtubers General but that seemed a bit broad.
No. 807429
>>807315I got the NB picture from the previous thread, you fucking donkey. Please cry more.
If Jacque was the only one to know, it would be idiotic to publically come out with anything further. It's called damage control. He was quietly dismissed from NB and his stuff with Grumps taken down per his request.
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>>804663Looks like Holly's been booted and there's no sign of DCA anywhere anymore on the upcoming events at the Descent event anymore.
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>>807473>there's no viable future for jared and holly to be togetherI'm pessimistic, and I believe that they almost engineered a scenario where they could viably be together.
I think they were trying to remove Heidi from the equation entirely, since she's the only one who could have possibly spoken up. Ross doesn't seem like the type to speak up about these things, and as a "company" the Game Grumps' MO towards any controversy is to stay completely silent about it (we still don't know the full details of Jon's departure, or why it's so taboo to mention him at all). If Jared had managed to successfully gaslight her/discredit her via his NormalBoots pals like we saw shortly after he first tweeted his statement, Heidi would've either blamed everything on herself or would never be taken seriously by anyone. I honestly fear Jared and Holly were dangerously close to getting away with it.
>wait it out a few monthsHolly's response to Jared was likely laying the groundwork for this sort of that. If their plan worked, I suspect we'd have gradually seen more social media posts about them hanging out together, and their DnD characters would get even more flirty. Give it the better part of a year after the divorce had been finalized (to see if they really still want to go official or if they were just getting off on infidelity), then they could make their relationship public and actually have a lot of support. With the Grumps likely staying silent and Heidi's words falling on uncaring ears if she wasn't too broken to speak up.
>in the very best case for them they'd have to deal with all their friends uncomfortably giving the side eye, knowing holly is dating her friend's ex husbandJared successfully gaslighting Heidi means that he gets to keep his friend group, Holly gets painted as the woman who "healed" Jared's broken heart after Heidi "abused" him, and DCA fans/Jared & Holly's followers go wild that the two are actually a thing. They'd probably get married a year or so after they first announce they're "dating," to even more applause. Those two would've successfully destroyed two marriages just so they could be with each other. It scares me to think just how close they were to pulling this off; if Heidi hadn't gotten hold of Jared's old phone and seen all the sexts or if Jared hadn't tried to do this all via goddamn Twitter, then maybe he really could have broken her.
This doesn't take into account whether or not Jared could've survived all the child pornography shit, since that coming to light so early on really helped swing public opinion to Heidi's side. If NormalBoots really was conducting an investigation like they claimed, or if even one allegation started trending on twitter like the divorce did, then Jared's other
victims would've spoken up. But if he managed to keep sweeping each individual under the rug, then they might not have banded together and come public about their experiences. Jared obviously didn't consider his
victims speaking up, so even if he did manage to weather the divorce then he and Holly could've still been brought to justice.
No. 807501
>>807495I think so too. If Jared’s one-sided statement and blocking spree hadn’t pissed off Heidi enough to speak out and
trigger the flood of
victim testimonials, they would have been able to keep the affair quiet and slowly prime their audience for a narrative in which Heidi was the
abusive ex-wife and Holly the sweet bean mental health guruwuwuwu swooped in to help him heal and oh gosh wouldn’t you know, they ended up falling in love just like in their fans’ headcanons! A shipper’s dream come true! And good on Jared for replacing his haughty cosplay elitist crazy ex with everyone’s favorite relatable birbmom! #couplegoals
His arrogance is what sunk him. He overestimated how much he’d isolated and discredited Heidi and didn’t expect her to stand up for herself. He also never expected his other
victims to come forward about his predatory behavior or that they’d be believed. After all, they’re just random attention-seeking nobodies and he’s a ~Famous YouTuber~. These types always think they’re untouchable and it’s so satisfying to see them be proven wrong.
No. 807505
>>806531This, out of all these three involved parties I knew Heidi the best because I'm a cosplayer. I never liked her (still don't despite feeling sorry for what happened to her) because she was lowkey too catty and uppity for my taste, but she was by no means an awful human being that deserved what was coming. Being slightly rude and smug isn't lolcow worthy or deserving of anything else than maybe the mute button on Twitter, she wasn't doing anything outright DAMAGING to the community. In retrospect I've been thinking if her shitty life situation had something to do with her behavior but you never know.
And even if she had a bad attitude, it has nothing to do with what Jared and Holly did to her. Maybe if she was a total bitch and actually abused Jared it would be a notable factor but just dropping stale cosplay salt on Twitter isn't deserving of being cheated on for months and having a predatory lying sack of shit for a husband.
No. 807511
>>807344i dunno who this person is but judging by the youtube channel being the first result upon googling, i would post in youtubers general, the few times i've popped in there it hasn't been a particularly fast thread anyway.
if there's enough milk maybe it would be worth making a "gaming community" thread or something in future idk
No. 807531
>>807495>If Jared had managed to successfully gaslight her/discredit her via his NormalBoots pals like we saw shortly after he first tweeted his statement, Heidi would've either blamed everything on herself or would never be taken seriously by anyone. I honestly fear Jared and Holly were dangerously close to getting away with it. Yeah, the whole thing of trying to get Heidi to sign a motherfucking NDA on the whole situation absolutely
reeks of this. That's not the actions of someone with your best interests at heart, or aiming at common courtesy. I hope Heidi has a good divorce lawyer and takes Weasel Boy to the fucking cleaners.
No. 807535
>>807532The receipts are here:
https://imgur.com/a/9CjaFQP but I can't find the story itself anymore
No. 807592
>>807515Yeah, the way PBG tried to shut her down in a joking way and not even seriously reeks of a man who has either been brainwashed into thinking Heidi was a horrible crone or someone who is used to shitting on her himself.
Even if he HAD been fed lies about how horrible Heidi was, it's pretty telling that he immediately went to discredit with a stupid ass joke and not with an earnest "I don't believe this."
Would not be surprised if stuff comes up with PBG next. Not a doubt in my mind.
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>>807751oh god just that entire screenshot thread
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I wonder if Heidi knew he wanted a vasectomy? If she did, she probably didn't realize his real reasons for wanting it. Even worse if he wanted to get it behind her back.
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>>807751this nude he sent might actually be the least sexy thing i've ever seen in my life
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>>807794This one is even worse
No. 807814
>>807804alledgedly not
>>803758 peen warning but obvious tricks
No. 807846
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>>807842also, his comment. The parts of him talking about emotional abuse and "threatening suicide" is honestly pretty telling.
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No. 807864
>>807846Yeah when Ross started getting into talking about finding controlling personalities similar to what you grew up with and being too chill to stand up for himself, warning of the constant put-down,and the emotional abuse it made me think of Holly and how she normally acted around Ross. At times they were happy I can remember, but then I've seen small moments where it seemed like Holly would just bully Ross for no reason and I wouldn't be surprised if she did emotionally abuse him.
Poor Ross…
No. 807865
>>807842I shouldn't laugh because they are discussing serious topics but I am howling at winnie the pooh talking at Jeice, just the silliness of it, sageing for zero contribution
>>807863is LA really so terrible for the birds? If she brought her birds to like, Antarctica or something then yeah her birds wouldn't survive there and would be better elsewhere. But surely there is local wildlife in LA naturally present, and she primarily had rescue birds as opposed to her own pets. So why couldn't the birds survive where they grew up?
Not American so I don't know the intricacies of LA but I assumed if birds lived there anyway then the birds she had were fine where they are. She kept them safe, well fed and taken care of.
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>>807864is there video/audio proof of her behaviour towards ross?
>>805844
>quote ross: "my new life is wonderful, if you told me 7 months ago I'd bounce back on my feet this well i wouldn't have believed you"<you guys think Ross feels lowkey schadenfreude for holly being dragged like this for cheating on him? he hasn't said anything about holly since announcing their divorce and stayed classy throughout. holly being called out like that by the internet has to feel good on some level. like the wronged party has the last laugh after all.
No. 808070
>>807899It’d be interesting if he didn't even know this was going on or only had an inkling it was.
I’ve considered the idea this is a slap in the face for him and is an incredibly humiliating way to find out/confirm suspicions. Even if he did feel any satisfaction out of it the embarrassment in general seems to outweigh any petty positivity ngl.
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Jared tweeted again
No. 808106
>>808098>>808101love how he entirely skipped over sending nudes to minors, nice jared.
i dont buy a bit of this shit. i knew he was gonna spin this and make him seem like a
victim.
No. 808108
>>808098>>808101LMAO he's STILL trying to point fingers at Heidi.
You got nothing boy. Almost everything has been laid bare for the world to see that you have gaslighted and lied to her.
It won't work. Thank god you were retarded enough to send your nudes to literal underaged strangers on the internet.
No. 808109
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>>808098>>808101this is honestly so juicy. This is now his side of the "she said, he said" scenario. He claims that being in an open relationship meant that she was okay for him to be with Holly.
On the one hand, if Heidi also stated somewhere in those tweets about an open relationship, then that should also be a conversation about boundaries: are friends okay? are strangers okay? If both Heidi and Jared are in an open marriage, then what is Holly's role in all this? to cheat implies breaking a legal and unspoken contract between two people, but when you add the "open" part as a leeway, where does that line start and end?
And, his tweets also enhance the "Holly was telling him to leave Heidi" narrative, that Heidi was stating. That Holly was basically manipulating him trying to convince him that she is the better choice.
I should state I'm not supporting Jared at all, I just find this interesting
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>>808098>>808101top response to his tweet right now is just this. toppest of fucking keks, my god.
No. 808119
>>808116I agree with you, but according to jared she ENCOURAGED him to share his feelings to Holly, and once he did, Heidi became jealous and controlling.
I am popcornin' this up because right now he's basically saying "Heidi already knew that I was into Holly and used it against me later" as if Heidi was waiting for the right moment to unleash this information and burn both parties with one matchstick
I don't know why he would even bother replying about this right now. Unless he had evidence that could, without a doubt, condemn Heidi as a manipulative abuser who refused to let him go, he's got the short end of the stick
No. 808120
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Goddamn. Poor Ross.
No. 808122
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>>808101There is so much to address here but how stupid is this dude that the only thing he's decided to put out there is "I am the real
victim here".
This is just setting up a second wave from Heidi, I didn't think she'd release texts before but
now I'm not so sure. Really bad move on his part.
It doesn't matter in the context of a lot of what he's done how open or
abusive their marriage was because he was using his "status" to trade nudes with people. How has that not clicked in his head?
He cemented things for Holly, too kek
She can't deny shit anymore and her, "You guys know me" statement secures her attempt to obviously manipulate her fans for bias in her favour.
>I realize as a public figure I am held to a higher standardOh, to be a public figure! If only he was just held to our lowly viewer standards of not being a pedophile and not using his power to solicit nudes from fans~
But, alas
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No. 808133
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Gross
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The ratio is so satisfying
No. 808141
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>>808137on that front, she's apparently buying this bullshit story
No. 808143
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>>808120Suddenly this retarded 4 month old ConspiracyGrumps post seems prophetic in hindsight.
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No. 808147
>>808143holy fuck, that's literally a prophecy. well done conspiracy grumps. any more of them come true?
also heidi going off, fuck that's some dank milk son. i'm drowning over here
No. 808148
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>>808098>>808101So Jared is literally retarded. You can taste the salt reading this, he's so butthurt that his attempt at having an open relationship ended like this and not in the classic bullshit fantasy of having a wife, fans (including underage) to fuck at cons, and having Holly WHO WAS MARRIED TO ROSS STILL. How in the fuck can he justify having "feelings" for his friend's wife? That has nothing to do with being in an open relationship you piece of shit.
Even if we were to believe his statements regarding Heidi being accepting to him fucking fans and Holly at some point, how does that justify it? He literally just posted this to get back at Heidi while he's down, it's so pathetic. There is no redemption after it was discovered he sent and received nudes from minors but, at the very least, he could have owned up to being a peverted jackass. Instead he's being a coward, I didn't think he could top divorcing his wife over twitter and then blocking her. He's really next level, it almost feels intentional.
No. 808149
>>808144yeah i'm really annoyed at this now
the "i dont need to post proof the internet did for me!!" makes heidi looks retarded. obviously she doesn't need to provide proof of jared fucking around on tumblr with minors because that shit's already out there. but what about the incriminating texts she has that would destroy holly and jared's defense completely? why is she still withholding valuable information that can potentially clear her of all speculation? i 100% believe in heidi's story but i'd love to see her drop a bomb that would shut assholes like up for good
>>808141. i know holly and jared defenders are in the minority but it's still sickening see
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think Jared would be vindictive enough to push charges?
No. 808156
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there it is.
No. 808160
>>808156Kek
Looks like no NDA, spill it Heidi
No. 808161
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a blog post from Heidi 2 years ago lines up with her claims of not being the one who wanted an opened relationship. It def sound like Jared suggested it to get with Holly and fans.
https://atelierheidi.tumblr.com/post/150883841640/bi-visibility-question-if-you-and-jared-were No. 808162
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No. 808163
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No. 808164
>>808162I agree with him to a point. He probably wants her to do it for the wrong reasons, but it would be much, much easier for everyone if there was a video. It would even make the timeline of events more accurate.
>>808161This proves that he was lying his ass off about her approaching him with the idea of an open relationship.
No. 808169
>>808162lol keem like
>bitch you're making me have to read all these fucking tweetshe's always like this.
No. 808170
>>808166She was Holly's business partner for Crabcat industries, I believe.
Don't know why she trying to defend Jared and Holly, I thought they weren't friend anymore
No. 808171
>>808163Yes, Ross definitely acted like someone who wasn't totally crushed by his divorce and definitely always let men hit on Holly. /s
Why does this pedo-defending bitch think she can speak on Ross's behalf. This has nothing to do with her. Not even one bit.
No. 808174
>>808163Hate this "it's not our businesssss" shit. Holly and Jared make money online so if they do shitty things, of course their fans and people care because they have an image/persona they made for themselves that's now been completely ruined with all of this(all thanks to Jared divorce tweet). Plus, their actions have hurt people's mental health
coughROSS
cough so too fucking bad bitch.
No. 808180
>>808163“Not our business”
Jared releases a public statement on the “open relationship” with holly
That’s…not how that works?
No. 808186
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Girl is really trying her hardest to demonize Heidi and prop Holly as the victim.
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No. 808189
>>808186All these people attack Heidi over the cheating scandal
Meanwhile: proof he shared nudes with minors willingly [ignored]
KEEM is known trash but this is beyond stupid and clearly biased because she snapped at him
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>>808188This whole cheating thing has been without solid proof, and now we have accusations of other lies? Jeez I hope everyone is lying and no one comes out of this unscathed because everyone's terrible. Except Ross.
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Yes, keep forcing the "pwecious birb fwend" narrative into a conversation about adultery. That will help your friend so very much.
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>>808195also, can the flood detection piss off please
No. 808199
>>808194Why does she think repeating ‘I’ve seen the dms where he asks for age’ is like the ULTIMATE comeback to all the people telling her to stop supporting a pedo? WE have all seen the dms where he knows the
victim is underaged and keeps fuckin soliciting them
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yeah I’m convinced Jared fucked this bitch too.
No. 808204
>>808150See, here's the biggest problem: All we have to go on is heidi saying she was wrong and people automatically believing her over jared cuz woman and we seen what Jared did.
How do we know what heidi supposedly has even exists? I'm not taking sides, but we're literally just believing her. Only thing Jared did was prove something DID happen with Holly, as it's no secret he would have seen what's been going on.
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No. 808209
>>808206That’s where I’m baffled as well
We literally have receipts on this and they just plain out ignore it
If keem mentions it watch him try to do “well that’s bad but both sides”
No. 808210
>>808207Wow, no wonder Jessica and Holly are such good friends…they both belong in the trash bin
Also Ross was devestated by the divorce, fuck off you bint
No. 808216
>>808207This is fucking disgusting. She's talking over Ross because she knows Ross doesn't want to be involved in the situation, so she's able to speak for him with no repercussions.
I doubt he even knows this literally-who is saying these things.
No. 808218
>>808207This is fucking disgusting. She's talking over Ross because she knows Ross doesn't want to be involved in the situation, so she's able to speak for him with no repercussions.
I doubt he even knows this literally-who is saying these things.
No. 808219
>>808144>>808149lawsuits are a thing, guys. it's his phone she saw the communications on.
the divorce is not at issue, she'll get 50% cut and dry.
not everything can be receipts receipts receipts.
she's doing the sane, clear posting here, he's the one laying the gaslighting and drama on thick and accusing her of spreading his dick pics that he sent fans
himself.
No. 808224
>>808221As much as I want that as well I feel Ross is too cool for that and taking the high road
Guess that’s why we like him so much
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Way to be all over the place to avoid the fan dm's, Jessica.
>"I tweeted Heidi about being untruthful in her characterization of her poly relationship b/c it affects my friend. That was the original intent. I did see evidence about his Tumblr, but that’s not my fight."
>Jared said Heidi didn't approve of Holly
>Heidi says she never approved of Holly
>Meaning if Jared went after Holly after Heidi said no, its cheating
Where was Heidi being untruthful again?
No. 808230
>>808228Is Jessica basically saying “whatever, ain’t my fight” to the
victims?
No. 808236
>>808101>>808098for christ's sake Jared you already used the behelit there's no going back
>>808235agreed, seems 100% like a ploy for attention
No. 808241
>>808236That’s the thing though
Is attention worth it when it’s this stuff? Like she wasn’t even on anyone’s radar until she had to go defend jared and holly
Heck I admittedly had to google her to remember who she was
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>>808241That's a really good point, before she was just vaguing but at this point she's digging a hole as far as the angry twitter users are concerned and painting herself as a pedophile apologist/someone who doesn't care about
victims she doesn't know.
I don't think she realizes she's got the shovel in her hands.
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>>808163She deleted the tweet where she claims Ross knew. I hope y’all are archiving her tweets.
No. 808248
>>808244OH so on top of being a cunt, she's also a coward.
I mean hell, if you're gonna pull claims out of your ass, at least own up to them
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Arin (and Barry and Vernon) follow her. I wonder if they'll dump her, or if she's too unknown for them to even notice she's been doing Ross dirty.
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i honestly think that profuckhead is absolutely 100% full of shit and is reversing the narrative completely, and he's just outlined all the things he's done to heidi (pushed for an open/poly relationship, got angry when she went and found partners too, etc).
he's totally ripped off what heidi initially said about the """body-posi"""/lewd tumblr (that she willingly went along with it, and in retrospect realised it was an unhealthy way of coping with the underlying issues in the marriage) when he's talking about the open/poly relationship bullshit.
"i was scared, embarrassed, broken, but i was never the abuser" – he's just mimicking what she initially said about being isolated and gaslight to shit and back made her look like she was crazy to his equally fuckhead friends.
also, "i helped heidi move out and want to make sure she gets her fair half!" that's what every halfway decent person does in a divorce, this isn't special? not actively trying to fuck someone over isn't evidence that you're an especially good person, and especially good people let their actions speak for themselves, they don't advertise them.
everything that spews out of this man's mouth is either just blatantly false, or manipulative twistings of the truth. i don't understand how there are people who don't see that tbh
No. 808256
>>808252I don't doubt he wrote it, but had a friend/had someone/put in extra time himself to clean it up. A lawyer would put out something more professional, it seems he just did a statement without anything in it to implicate himself. If he doesn't acknowledge the illegal and gross shit he did, he can't have his words used against him. This is just him trying to continue his and Holly's narrative.
>>808250I'm honestly beginning to think Jessica is just an idiot along for the ride being used as Holly's mouthpiece.
Holly could have fed her a story that Ross knowing her Feelings and
>Golly, I would never cheat! You know me! Ross and I supported each other! >B-but don't tweet that Jessica! Ross said he didn't want to be involved u_uFriends do this all the time for each other on social media-but even PBG eventually realized the danger of defending people involved in this.
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Keem (despite sperging out as always) is clearly raising more interest for this in the drama community, wouldn't be surprised if Edwin made a video eventually since he actually empathizes with sexual abuse victims
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>>808098You know what? i am going to get shit on for saying it but like i have commented already from the very start, this was fishy and i don´t trust Heidi telling the whole story and what Jared is saying here is closer to what i imagined really happened.
Heidi knew about the lewd tumblr, knew her husband sexted with another one of her friends who she is still friends with. She knew what was up and probably was very aware of Holly too. She simply tried to play cool progressive wife on her own free will and got assblasted when she realized she wasnt cool with it after all and her ego got bruised.
She knew that taking the lead in the current climate meant everyone was going to side with her and it was a good chance to scapegoat of the situation , because if the tumblr shit explodes she might come down with the ship for knowing about it and encouraging Jared to end dick picks to a bunch of teenage fans.
Everyone here is an idiot.
No. 808262
>>808252It's a no-fault state, there is no big team of divorce lawyers, it's a 50/50 split no matter who cheated or w/e. That's what makes his statements so facile.
Additionally, Heidi said he threatened her with (separate) legal action and the deadline expired today (see upthread), she didn't respond and he's flipping out by posting this.
Thirdly, this letter is extremely unprofessional and doesn't look like any sane PR person would approve. None of this will get him his job back.
No. 808263
>>804540Hopefully Heidi can share some/any form of receipts so she can shut up the spergy Keemstar watchers that are incoming with the drama video.
Also, did it never occur to Holly and Jessica that Jared is/was manipulating them? Guy is clearly fine with receiving and posting underage nudes, and this is the hill they choose to die on? Lol
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>>808261I totally believe the poly shit and that she was fucking other men too btw, is very fitting to what kind of lifestly and moral standards these uwu alternative tumblrinas have.
(samefag) No. 808265
>>808261>>808264I DO want to see Ross dragged into this, because I want to hear whether he okay something early on or not.
Poly's a mess kids, don't let your narc boyfriends 'suggest' it to you.
No. 808266
>>808264I disagree with you entirely
That being said. It doesn't fucking matter because at the end of the day Jared was fucking around with 15/16 year olds. He's the scum. Not Heidi. The bar for being scum is too high for her to reach at this point. Even Holly, because atm she's just a cheater.
No. 808267
>>808261>>808264Have you guys not read this:
>>808161 ?
Her feelings on either of them fucking others while in the relationship are pretty clear, and that was two years ago.
It's not inconsistent with her saying she clearly drew lines at actual sex, which isn't inconsistent with "we TRIED poly years ago and it in no uncertain terms failed".
No. 808269
>>808261>She simply tried to play cool progressive wife on her own free will and got assblasted when she realized she wasnt cool with it after all and her ego got bruised. That doesn't put her at fault though. She said they tried poly, then she ended it. Trying something doesn't give Jared a free pass for life to fuck literally anyone he wants regardless of how his wife feels about it, and I'm pretty sure even for degenerates polytards it's widely accepted that partner have veto rights and both people need to be comfortable with the situation. Even if she was all for it and then backed out when it came to Holly, it's still cheating on his part.
Anyway it's obvious she tried being the cool girl but that just makes me feel sorry for her. Do you really think it's likely she was all gung ho about an open relationship so she can fuck other guys, or was she just desperately trying to stop her husband from leaving her or cheating behind her back by appeasing him and pretending to be okay with him fucking other women?
No. 808273
>>808261>>808264I also think there is something sketchy, and that there is probably a lot more hidden. I also know of plenty of people who have lived double lives. You can cheat and be polyamorous, the thing that most people don't seem to get is that polyamory only works with a shit ton of communication and setting boundaries. It's a system and for the most part it's not a "free to fuck anyone" card. I think Heidi probs knew of a lot of what's happening, but I don't doubt she was disgusted by Holly cheating on Ross. After all, they were close "friends" and business partners. The whole minor thing seems to be avoided by a lot of the parties engaged in the chatting, which is the most important thing. Imagine finding out that not only is your partner being sketchy, but they are actively seeking out underaged fans. This reeks like a case of onionesque manipulation to go poly and avoid the guilt of cheating. It sounds Heidi was dependant on Jared, and perhaps she felt a bit stuck. This is super common in
abusive men, and although we shouldn't take her word as law, it's another red flag we should look at.
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>>808266>The bar for being scum is too high for her to reach at this point. Even Holly, because atm she's just a cheater.There's a chance Holly knew and got Jared to contact the teens he sent and revived nudes to, so she's probably just as shitty.
She's still following him and claimed she would be there for him so it's obvious she didn't really care about the allegations when the kids reached out to her and she doesn't care now.
No. 808275
>>808267Wish I could find it, but also that post where a fan tells Jared on tumblr "I saw you guys at the con and wanted to kiss both of you" and Jared was all for the idea, and then Heidi reblogged it politely expressing her disapproval of it.
Its not a sudden thing that she wasn't okay with an open marriage, I don't get where people are getting that idea unless you're really thirsty for milk.
No. 808278
>>808274Shit yeah I forgot that Holly (most likely) leaked that info to Jared.
Further proof that Heidi isn't the shitty person here. Naive possibly, but definitely the
victim No. 808279
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>>808265>Poly's a mess kids, don't let your narc boyfriends 'suggest' it to you.We don´t even know if he truly was the one suggesting it to her, Heidi is just playing
victim, she might have been the one with the idea, thinking it was cool to fuck other men but getting pissed when her husband fucked other women.
Also the whole "holly cheated ross" might be sketchy, better receipts are needed. If Holly was already divorced and Heidi accepted the polyamorous relationship then both Holly and Jared fucking was sanctioned and she was simply waiting to move out to drop the bomb and fuck with their reputation out of spite.
The real fucked up thing here was not the alleged infidelity, the fucked up part is that Jared was sending dick pics to teens, Heidi fucking knew and even saw the pics Jared was receiving, she encouraged it and now that she is divorced and she knows that Normalboots was notified, suddenly she bails and plays innocent
smol innocent bean that was manipulated into polyamory uwu"how very convenient Heidi.
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>>808275>>808276It was, I gotchu fam.
No. 808282
>>808274This image says it all. They tried hiding a relationship publicly haha and people are STILL trying to defend Holly and Jared!
This image, right here, shows how cunty both these oxygen thieves.
No. 808283
>>808279You must be new.
>>808280it was posted in the last thread. lurk moar.
No. 808285
>>808279Even Holly's (Jared-defending) friend confirmed it was going on while Holly was married to Ross.
>>808163 >>808207
I barely even had to scroll up. Get outta here.
No. 808286
>>808279Holly's own friend said that Ross knew about it and supported it before deleting her tweet. There is literally a photo int his thread about Heidi being uncomfortable to more than a monogamous relationship two years prior to all of this. Poly relationships require consent from all parties and Heidi did not give consent when it came to Holly. Try again after lurking more.
With that being said you're right, this is all bullshit compared to Jared sending dick pics to teens and trying to fuck them.
No. 808288
>>808269
>She said they tried poly, then she ended itShe sanctioned it but still wants to play the
victim, she knew what that meant. Even if she regreted it she was not the
victim.
>it's widely accepted that partner have veto rights and both people need to be comfortable with the situation. they were getting divorced and Jared was leaving her for Holly. You forget that JAred was a partner of that relationship to, if he wanted to leave he could.
Heidi admitted of knowing and encouraring the tumblr shit, that makes her complicit in that whole fiasco.
(ban evasion) No. 808289
>>808279Again, it seems like you're another person who can't read? See the multiple posts of her clearly showing her disapproval and literally, clearly, saying that she
>>808161 "certainly doesn't want her husband to sleep with another woman while she is present," "that sounds terrible," "my bisexuality is not a get out of monogamy free card", "I would never want him to be in the mindset of "shopping around" for another potential partner and I am not in that mindset either," "we're not looking for other people to join us" two years ago. The evidence all points to her being okay with sharing suggestive pics, no nudes, no sex, because of Jared spinning 'body positivity', and that she didn't participate herself. Please learn to read.
No. 808292
>>808098Interesting that he uses the word several twice here.
>Heidi has taken several casual partners>I made several attempts to leaveIt's one of those phrases like few that means more than two, but not many. People are likely to associate it with seven, too. Makes it sound like more dramatic that way.
>>808264I think people have this idea that polyamory is a guaranteed way to get laid a lot, even in an open relationship finding people who are okay with you dating another person let alone someone you're interested in sleeping with can be pretty rare.
>>808265I agree with this a lot, so many people are roped into this type of situation thinking it'll save their relationship.
It's like the modern generation's version of, "Our marriage will be saved by having a baby"
When a relationship is ending or unhappy I find people become very vulnerable when they want to make it work-maybe desperate.
No. 808293
>>808262No fault doesn't mean no lawyers, it just means the only reason you need for a divorce is "one of us wants it". And Washington isn't 50/50, it's fair and equitable. So one spouse may get more depending on the arguments made to the judge. Even in a 50/50 state, how to split assets can end up a judge's decision if neither side can agree on who gets the house, the dog, whatever. Want to make sure you get the dog? Better get a lawyer.
The fact he threatened her with legal action with today as the deadline is the reason the statement came out now. At this point, the only way he can salvage anything is to sow doubt by making it a case of he said/she said (which has already gained traction with some people) and ignore the underage accusations.
If he doesn't have any lawyers at this point he's stupid. Then again … nevermind, you're right. He probably doesn't.
No. 808300
>>808297I doubt this is going to be some big court case. They'll probably try to have everything settled between them by lawyer negotiations so they can avoid having a judge decide for them. I don't see anything inaccurate in that post. The infidelity itself is immaterial. What might not be is allegations of abuse or being financially dependent so long that she's unable to be financially independent now. On his side, he could well argue that airing all this stuff in public has ruined his future earning potential, so she should get less of the communal assets.
Who even know how much money in involved here. Probably not as much as people think, but enough that neither is going to just agree to split it in half and walk. Heidi mentioned the NDA he asked for would be "selling my dignity" so it probably involved a bigger cut of their assets if she signed it.
No. 808308
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Looks like Holly’s dumbass friend deleted her retweets of Keemstar’s spergout.
No. 808309
>>808128Shit, Heidi has no mercy. She put this man in a casket for a second burial.
>>808186Could this joke of a gnome fuck off already? It's clear that he got pissed off that Heidi refused to submit her evidence to him for him to make more money with a video. Absolute opportunist garbage.
No. 808323
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I'm going to need some whiskey to decipher all of the bullshit in these statements.
>My wife Heidi and I have filed for divorce.
I'm divorcing my wife Heidi so that I can publicly start dating Ross's (ex) wife Holly.
>I know this may come as surprising and upsetting for many of you, but know that we do this so that we may both seek happiness for ourselves.
I know that this is coming completely out of left field for most of you, but know that I'm doing this so that I may pursue my own happiness and escape the marriage I ruined.
>During this time you may see a lot of rumors, speculation and gossip going around.
In the off-chance I haven't successfully gaslit Heidi, she may try to out me as an unfaithful manipulator.
>I ask that you make your own observations and come to your own conclusions.
I ask that you ignore everything that paints me in an unfavorable light.
>I will add that this decision was reached after extensive individual therapy on my part and couples therapy together.
I will add that this decision is premeditated and has been in planning for a while now.
>With that said, this is all I plan on stating publically regarding this matter.
Don't try to bug me about this, this is my entire cover story.
>Heidi's privacy, mental wellbeing and discretion have always been and will remain my highest priority through all of this.
Don't try to ask Heidi about this, and if you do don't believe her because she's insane.
>It is my hope that we both exit this marriage with style and grace.
It is my hope that none of you will care that shortly after my divorce is finalized I'll be publicly dating Holly.
>I plan on continuing to do everything I can on my part to make this happen.
I plan on making it look like I'm a morally upright person by following divorce laws.
>Thank you for your understanding, patience, kindness, and respect for our privacy.
Thank you for taking everything I say at face-value and not trying to dig deeper into my dirt.
No. 808324
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No. 808326
File: 1558173479361.jpg (17.6 KB, 400x400, lVgtutTS_400x400.jpg)
i genuinely don't fucking know what to make of this situation anymore. the fact that that ruby rose knockoff is trying to defend holly while brushing off the fact that jared's literally a fucking pedophile is making me flip my fucking top.
i'm worried about ross. i hope he's handling this well. i don't really want him to get dragged into this, but i really would love for him to at least clear the air about the whole "attempted poly" situation, with him having apparently "worked out an agreement" or some shit.
No. 808332
File: 1558174426859.jpg (107.87 KB, 789x789, D6z-6tbVsAUWjOs-orig.jpg)
>I am deeply sorry to anyone who has seen the accusations, vitriol, or unwanted photos that my former partner Heidi and others have been posting online since last Wednesday, May 8, 2019.
I deeply regret that I was failed to successfully gaslight Heidi or silence all of my victims.
>The truth is that Heidi and my marriage has been in a bad place for some time.
It is true that my marriage to Heidi had failed, but still I deny any wrongdoing.
>I never wanted any of those details to become public, for both Heidi and my mental well-being.
I never wanted any of those details to come out, so I could continue manipulating Heidi and other women without any fear of retribution.
>But they have, and the accusations being made now must be addressed.
But now that I've been exposed, I'll try to blame everything on Holly again without addressing anything about my nudes, sexual deviancy, and pedophilia.
>A few years ago, Heidi asked me if we could be in an open, polyamorous marriage.
A few years ago, Heidi realized that I was trying to sleep her around and so I pressured her into accepting a "polyamorous" marriage.
>I recognize now that this request, and my willingness to go along with it, was an unhealthy attempt to solve deeper issues that had developed within our marriage.
I forced this upon Heidi to manipulate her into thinking that any and all issues within our marriage only existed in her imagination.
>Heidi has taken several casual partners, and has been in a more serious relationship with another partner since 2017.
If Heidi had been sleeping around as well, that would have completely justified me sleeping with my good friend's wife.
>Whether done to make her own actions feel justified, or because she genuinely believed it would help me "build self-esteem," Heidi suggested that I also engage with other women.
I tried to get Heidi to engage with other partners, in order to make her more amicable to the possibility of divorce.
>Heidi encouraged me to tell Holly that I was developing feelings for her.
I never expected Heidi to be so perceptive and figure out that I was trying to cuck Ross.
>But when I did, things changed with Heidi.
But she did, and so I became far stricter with how I with her.
>She became angry and vindictive, and did not want me to see or speak with Holly anymore.
I became angry and vindictive, and did not want her to see or speak with anyone anymore.
>She called me a "cheater" and claimed that I was destroying our marriage because of my "affair" — even though she continued to have relationships with other partners.
I tried to convince her that I was not actually a cheater and destroying two marriages with my affair, all while I continued to have relationships with other partners.
>I never wanted to destroy our marriage, and I spent months after that doing what I could to repair it through couples' therapy and extensive individual therapy.
I never wanted my impending divorce to ruin my reputation, while Heidi spent months of therapy trying to salvage our marriage.
No. 808334
>>808269this post basically says it all imo
>>808161She's clearly uncomfortable with the idea of her partner being intimate with someone else, and prefers the safety and intimacy of being monogamous. People can change sure, but she's said herself that Jared was often moody and inconsoable toward the end of the relationship. It stands to reason that she may have been lead to believe that by giving him an "outlet" he would warm up to her again. It also makes perfect sense that when he didn't, and used her desperation to push boundaries even further that she got upset and asked him to stop.
No. 808336
File: 1558176008358.jpg (123.39 KB, 883x883, D6z-65_UwAA2KxK-orig.jpg)
>Those close to me have witnessed Heidi's behavior towards me on many occasions, and have begged me to leave for some time.
Those close to me were deliberately kept away from Heidi, and occasionally wondered why they never saw her.
>I was many things during this time, including embarrassed, scared and broken, but I was never the abuser.
I tried many things during this time to embarrass, scare, and break her, but apparently I was never completely successful.
>I made several attempts to leave, starting in October 2018.
I originally planned to divorce her in October 2018, one month after Holly divorced Ross.
>But each time she refused to let it happen, threatening to destroy my career and harm others if I left.
But I continued to wait, as I feared that it would be too early and I would destroy my career and reputation.
>Despite all of this, I tried to end things amicably.
Despite planning for all of this for so long, I still regret that I must follow divorce laws.
>I helped Heidi find a new place to live and paid the initial deposits.
I hated that I had to find a different place for Heidi to live, and that I had to pay the initial deposits.
>I bought her a car to facilitate her independence.
My attempts to make Heidi completely dependent on me meant that she had no money to do any of this for herself, not even own a car or pay for gas.
>I formally filed for divorce on May 13, 2019, and have instructed my attorneys to make sure she receives her fair share of what I earned while we were together.
I formally filed for divorce five days after blocking my wife on Twitter and releasing my original statement; my lawyers are advising me on how to proceed with this.
>I genuinely never wanted any of this to happen, but I have finally realized that I have no other choice.
I genuinely never imagined that Heidi would be taken seriously, or that others would come forward to corroborate her claims and implicate me in multiple acts of pedophilia and sexual misconduct, but apparently I was wrong.
>Even though I have been tempted to put information out online that shows my side of the story, I don't want to further stoke the fires of what should be a private matter between us.
Even though I would very much like to ruin Heidi's life, I am unable to, and according to my lawyers it would be a terrible move.
>My hope is that both of us continue to pursue therapy, and come out of this unfortunate situation better people.
I have never admitted to any fault or wrongdoing, but I hope that you will accept this new cover story and think that I will become a better person from here on out.
>But I want everyone to know that any other actions I may have had with any other women were known to, and encouraged by, Heidi, and were had with only the purest and lawful intentions.
I want everyone to forgive me for any and all of my actions, because I had previously forced Heidi into a polyamorous relationship and thus am morally allowed to be a whore.
>I am sorry to everyone that I have disappointed.
I am sorry that everyone took Heidi's side.
>I realize that as a public figure I am held to a higher standard.
I assumed that as a youtube celebrity I would be able to pressure everyone into silence and submission.
>I have made my share of mistakes, but I have only ever tried to do what's best for Heidi and me.
I have never admitted to making any mistakes, and have only ever done things for the benefit of my own self-interests, regardless of what Heidi's feelings were.
No. 808343
File: 1558179191855.jpeg (141.08 KB, 640x902, 5B1E688B-1AB0-4685-B9FB-5AE362…)
Many of Holly’s fans still want to believe she’s a “precious innocent bird mom uwu”
No. 808361
File: 1558181692919.jpg (57.82 KB, 455x578, 09.JPG)
Was this one of the Holly's vague tweets that Heidi mentioned?
No. 808364
File: 1558182314326.png (42.67 KB, 1173x335, nud.png)
Heidi definitely used to be a cool girl.
No. 808370
>>808362The only case I know of where the party most in favor of transitioning towards an open/poly relationship didn't later have an affair was when the other did. It's just a total garbage idea all round.
Sage.
No. 808388
>>808364>>808383It's been talked about before in the thread and maybe the previous one, and Heidi said herself that receiving nudes and sending lewds were okay but engaging in nude sharing was a big no (as well as fucking fans at conventions).
Unless the Heidi affair Jared is talking about has any truth to it, I wholeheartedly believe she's been a
victim of this whole poly relationship.
And even if she had an affair or something, it was in 2017, and she's always saying that she did not give consent to everything Jared did.
No. 808389
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>>808383
>ban evades to whiteknight a pedorat
No. 808396
>>808391I hope it is too.
She’s already made herself and Holly look worse in the 2-3 hours she was reeing about Heidi and how Holly totally didn’t cheat on her husband. Her posting on lolcow only makes it even more apparent that she’s doing damage control for Holly.
No. 808398
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>>808391Anon your tinfoil totally has merit.
Just realised, our anon whiteknight uses ´ instead of '. First confirmed post within the past 24h by our anon is 8 hours ago (judging by the fact they are the only anon who uses ´ instead of ' on the thread, and the bans they've been given.) They probably were posting on the thread before, judging by when the white knighting started. Meanwhile Heidi started tweeting about the drama 12h ago. She was replying to people about the drama, and 7h ago hinted shes going to stop replying on twitter to people. This is when our whiteknight anon went full force whiteknight over here.
>>808383>>808279>>808261Guess who else uses ´ instead of ' ?
Jessica, pic related for proof.
No. 808400
>>808398You've got a huge brain Anon.
What would cause this, is this a type of US keyboard? I mean, nobody in this thread uses this except for Jessicanon but maybe it's just another weirdo.
I think you're 100% right tho.
No. 808401
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Jessica seems to forget her friend is sleeping with a man she was sent proof of him being predatory towards minors. She and Holly ain’t shit but hoes and tricks.
No. 808412
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>>808409Too bad she can't delete these.
No. 808415
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>>808398Great detective work anon.
>>808409Too bad for her I left my tab open.
No. 808419
File: 1558191269327.jpg (9.63 KB, 243x275, 1530469173636.jpg)
>>808412>>808409Wow, you people are thick in the head.
I am not even american lol. and the posts were deleted by the Mods, not me.
I stand on why i said, Jared may be a douchebag but you guys are retards for believeing Heidi´s sorry excuses at face value.
She was into the polyamorous relation, she was cool with the nudes and the sexting with other friends of her. She was not manipulated. When this shit started i was all in supporting her, until everything else started coming to light, then it became fishy and now i don´t trust this hoe.
She was dumb, tried to paly cool girl then got upset and went on a rampage when it backfired on her. Jared was an idiot but she was an idiot as well encouraging him and condoning him. And she is definitely complicit with the nudes and shit, i won´t excuse her ass just because she says so.
Now keep bitching and putting on conspiracies just because i voiced a "non circlejerk" opinion, you guys are omiting so much milk here is crazy, it will be very unfortunate that some receipts start coming in about Heidi´s own poly affairs.
(stop ban evading, mods did not delete your post) No. 808428
>>808425I don´t see any space, it´s just formatting. < See?
Anyway, Jessica or not, their reaction pics are so genuinely cringe I enjoy their posts.
No. 808430
>>808204I think it speaks volumes that there's absolutely NOTHING proof-wise on Heidi fooling around with other people and there being tons on Jared. It's not a 'woman' thing, it's an intelligence thing.
Jared thinks he can just get away with it and continue with his cake and eating it, too.
No. 808438
>>808427I said something similar to you a week ago before his pathetic statement came out. What I would say was Heidi was a raging handmaiden in her efforts to keep this weasel around, so she knowingly accepted the shared lewds and nudes with teens, the cheating and flirting, and maybe even "I agree but I obviously don't agree" with the Holly situation. She chose to omit the specifics in her original thread, though she
did own up to agreeing to the tumblr page and regretting it. People kinda swept over that at the time.
It obviously got so bad that all the tolerance in the world could not save their marriage. Holly is clearly not a seductress if you watch some of her Twitch clips, just a dorky girl. He is a sex addict who would've been on his phone 24-7 messaging these girls while Heidi looked the other way.
I'm sure a lot of us here have personal experience both in being groomed by sex addicts online, and men who claim to be getting abused by current partners and exes, so it's pretty difficult to sympathize with Jared if you have any experience with people like that.
No. 808448
>>808438This sudden idea that Heidi was totes okay with Jared sharing nudes with minors is absolutely ridiculous.
No matter how brainwashed she was during the relationship, I highly doubt she was under enough to be an accomplice in that bullshit.
I'm sorry Heidi hurt Keem's little feelings but that doesn't make her a monster, guys
No. 808453
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>>804540Holly’s sister is also defending Jared and Holly.
No. 808457
>>808453Wow, soon this will just be a story of how Holly saved Jared from the
abusive Heidi. What an angel. I know you want to protect your sister but still.
No. 808472
File: 1558195721614.png (346.81 KB, 639x1256, denial.png)
>>808460>>808458This is so weird, talking about her like "becoming friends with her was the best thing of my life" and "i'm her sister duh". I know some family relationships are weird but still.
>>808463>>808464The denial is real.
I think she needs to see Jared on top of a minor to believe he's scum.
No. 808475
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>>808453>>808458>>808460>>808463>>808464Is this going to be PBG all over again? How is it she doesn't know normalboots dropped him because one of his
victims reported him? It doesn't matter if he asked for their age or not, he still obtained nudes and gave dick pics to a minor. He chose to not address it, he could have claimed it was a "mistake" but, it's pretty fucking obvious him avoiding the subject definitely mean he's aware of what he did was fucked.
I can't wait for Holly to come out and claim Jared manipulated her and contradict all these retared bitches who are trying to defend both of them lol
No. 808476
>>808474 agreed. please make this
>>805547 the next thread pic
No. 808477
>>808475People also seem to forget that the report by his
victim happened a MONTH before any of this happened and came out.
No. 808486
>>808480>>808481>>808482> I'm not looking to make excuses or justify myself either."I broke your safe space by dming you the first time - I apologize I'm not making excuses - but you know I would have never done that - are you sure you're not lying? - I'm in therapy now I was so not good at the time I was grooming little girls - muh depression - it's not my fault it's my mental health"
>>808484>>808485You go Chai. That's receipts, thank you.
No. 808487
>>808481>I have not been healthy emotionally or mentally for a long timeGood job pulling out the 'muh depression' card Jared.
>>808484>>808485Bless this person for providing fucking proof. Get fucked Holly white knights.
No. 808491
File: 1558198428159.png (655 KB, 1054x4461, chaithread.png)
Chai's thread has some other juicy bits. Jacque definitely looks like he just wants to hide this stuff.
> We take the matter seriously yes.
> We've deleted all your child porn, stop sending us cp omg jeez.
It almost looks like he didn't report it to the authorities. Would they jail him for it lmao? So much for "investigating".
Is investigating in dudes world mean asking Jared if he did an oopsie?
I don't want to bother them anymore but why did they contact Holly first? (April 3rd - Normal Boots on April 4th)
No. 808542
>>808535Almost all of those tweet start with "I". She's another "muh mental illness" attention whore who thought she could twist the story in Holly and Jared's favor without showing proof to her claims and then when she gets proof of Jared being a pedo, it's too much for her to comprehend.
For Jared, Heidi and their friends wking them, you all apparently have HORRIBLE mental illness, maybe you shouldn't display your life online if it's too much to handle?
No. 808543
>>808535nice backpedaling
why don't more people just not say anything at all
No. 808545
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No. 808551
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I didn't know sleeping with Jared was a priority?
No. 808569
>>808566LOL yup. Some people think they're (or should I say "they´re") so very clever indeed - that condescending lecturing BS stinks a mile away, easily.
Seriously, did Holly hold a contest for who could write 2K words of gaslighting, passive-aggressive mincing nonsense the quickest and promise not seeing one of Jared's weasel dick pics ever again as the prize? It'd explain the sheer zeal.
No. 808578
>>808279get the fuck out newfag
I bet this is irrelevant ass Jessica Merizan who couldn't manage to land a real job after Heroes of Cosplay
No. 808646
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bitch got served some cold hard truth and now she's backpedaling so hard we might as well register her as a bicycle to the local authorities.
No. 808657
>>808535>I have dipped my toes in the waters of these accusations, but I have not swum in them as you both have.then shut the fuck up?
what is with these people going to bat so hard for holly and jared pretending like they have all the facts or know more than everyone else when they don't? and then trying to backpedal and use "I don't have all the facts" as an excuse along with "uwu this is too hard on my mental health". christ, what a bunch of idiotic children.
No. 808674
>>808657Yea I had to do a double take on that excuse she gave
It's like…it got too real for her and she doesn't care about the truth with those minors
No. 808676
>>808646>I will change my mind if someone provide proofGets proof
>It literally would not be safe for me to acess this proof because of my mental health so I cannot take any stance on this whatsoeverIs this bitch serious
No. 808693
>>808684yeah, it's hard to tell if she's trying to say she can't handle it because she's also been a
victim or if she means she can't handle it because it means coming to terms with the fact that someone she's cared about and known/supported for years is complicit in some pretty heinous shit. feels more like the latter.
No. 808695
>>808646Lmao look at this cunt.
>"IT NEVER HAPPENED AND I KNOW BECAUSE I'M HOLLY'S SISTER AND SHE'S AN ANGEL AND JARED DINDU NUFFIN WRONG">gets slammed with facts>"Me depressed… me can't handle it… uwu"She pulled a Jared
No. 808712
>>808535Whether she's Holly's actual sister or not, I'd believe they're twins based on how hard they both fall back on "muh mental health" when having to face reality.
>>808703I agree, the second one.
No. 808799
>>808793Can newfags please hold ou for someone with decent GG thread experience to make the next thread. Thanks. There is no need to panic.
PS my personal vote is
>>804672 for thread pic.
No. 808848
File: 1558243985290.png (360.81 KB, 953x755, HeidiTweet2.png)
>>808701you guys seem a little behind.
No. 808865
>>808848She agreed to a an open relationship , she knew all about the affairs, she simply got butthurt when she realized she wasn´t cut out for it.
This is very different from the initial narrative of "poor girl gets cheated behind her back"
No. 808869
>>808868So she gets the power to open it AND close it on her own volition? And we're not supposed to believe Jared isn't a
victim at this point?
No. 808871
>>808869Jesus christ shut the fuck up, dude.
Jared is not the
victim in this situation.
Or was he also being the
victim when he sent all those dick pics to those underage fans? Fuck off.
No. 808872
>>808869Yes. Both parties in an open relationship have to consent to it being open otherwise the “open” status is not
valid. “Open” does not mean free for all.
No. 808874
>>808869So he gets the power to slide into minor's dms AND use his status as a youtuber to stick it inside some fans? And we're supposed to believe Jared is a
victim at this point?
No. 808879
File: 1558256145949.jpg (188.58 KB, 638x1920, EveryYoutuberApologyEveryother…)
>>808877Look: This is Lolcow, we're not gonna spoonfeed you information when it's literally right there and you're literate. Unless you want to see his little apology towards one of the minors that accused him on being a pedo. So get a drink and start scrolling from the top.