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Holly BRown is a bad artist, YouTuber, webcomic author, and fujoshi popular with edgy children for her "no bullshit" attitude despite not accepting any criticism.
She believes she's known for two webcomics:
Purgatory, her oldest and worst comic, about two gay teens in a cult with lots of rape: https://tapas.io/series/Purgatory
Paranormal Plague, whose most-drawn character hasn't been introduced, with rape DLC: https://tapas.io/series/Paranormalplague
She also wrote Chroma Prince, a Patreon-only NSFW yaoi comic about alien sex slaves. She only did 4 pages before shutting down her Patreon.
She's actually most known for ranting about the CalArts admissions process being unfair even though she was DEFINITELY accepted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB90iDxOcIg
WEBSITE (currently deleted): https://www.hollycbrown.com/
(LASER BUSINESS): https://www.instagram.com/razorlasercustoms/
(FOOT FETISH): https://www.instagram.com/feetfootstomping/
TWITTER (privated): https://twitter.com/HCBrownart
TUMBLR (currently deleted): http://bullshitshitpostmainaccount.tumblr.com/
In the last thread:
>was supposedly 'hacked' and momentarily lost her new channel, later regained it>continuously job hopping>ignoring shipping patreon awards to her loyal fans>redid the 100 days of making comics challenge, gave up on day 6>decided to go from art to animation, despite her animation attempts being extremely stiff>apparently hoarding twitter names to sell>still obsessed with get rich quick schemes>jokingly calling herself out "i know there are easier ways to do this [art] but i don't want to do that">ordered off-model plastic charms and complained about the amount of time shipping would take while in a pandemic>called out Racist Uncle for their hate-stalking towards her>old channel currently hacked and rebranded to a shitty DIY channel>currently abandoned the nth redraw of Paranormal Plague for her Harry Potter yaoi fanfic involving Sirius Black and Severus Snape
Amazing thread picture. >>950676
My question is how is Snape Voldy's only potion maker? Doesn't the dude have tons of followers?
I held off on this specific critique when it was just a few pages, but now that it's been confirmed he was arrested:
How the fuck are Sirius and James releasing him? They're not aurors.
Unless I somehow blanked on it, there's no English wizard jail besides Azkaban.
If he's in some sort of Death Eater holding cell (seeing as he "failed a mission and was arrested") how tf did those two prance in, and how tf could he be released "on Dumbledore's orders"?
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Tiny hands James
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lel the sad bleats still coming from these poor dupes
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Here's the followup
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The colours of Hermonie's skin and hair seem to clash.
Wish she had at least darken the hair to work with the skin more like pic related.
Honestly I’m surprised she’s not one of those ppl who claim Hermione is white and can ONLY be white. Color me impressed
Also is this confirmation that she read the Cassandra Clare draco fan fics? Because lol, Holly’s taste is trashier than I thought.
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I mean Princess as they both have the same scrawny body type.
Also Princess is the 'uwu kawaii anxiety anorexic' while ash is the 'sexy one with big boobs' and Reese is a rapist prostitute cutter
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Why are her followers like this
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I just keep hoping this is an April fools joke.
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At one hour in she gave a hair update. She honestly looked her best with a pixie cut length and now she looks like the characters she always draws
The short length made her look like a grandma, what are you talking about? It definitely looks nicer longer. She sucks at styling herself or taking care of her hair but at least some length makes her look closer to 20 than 50.
Her anime Damien bangs are fucking hilarious though I'll admit.
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This was probably the best her hair looked. Straight, shoulder length with a long fringe. The blonde wasn't bad either until she started fucking with it and trying to do it herself and put other colors on top.
Just because we said she looks good in these, she's gonna shave her head again just to do the opposite thing from what people say.>>955519
Seconded. Can't even remember the last time she looked this happy and wasn't sniffling around on livestreams talking about how hard she's working.>>955350
OT blogposting but I'm also growing out my hair from a pixie right now, and 90% of the time it looks like a blow dried feathery 90s mullet, it's equal parts hilarious and sad
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Oh rip what a shame you can't post the gif. It looks like a dick helicopter.
his hair is literally the only thing moving. what is she trying to show. if it's wind, his clothes would be moving, if it's a hair flip, his whole body should be moving.
she's just using this to waist time. she's not learning anything.
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i think it's fine that the clothes aren't moving, assuming this is a study of how hair moves (which is different to how clothes move). however as a study it needs work.
the hair is separate into three strands, but those three strands all move at the same pace and direction, which is both inaccurate and just confusing from an animator's perspective. either group them together and have the hair move as one wave (if it's all moving at the same pace and on the same path) or have the strands move at different flows, on different paths. you'll see the first approach a lot in disney animation.
the motion is also very fast and violent, which suggests a strong wind. in the case of a strong wind the strands definitely would not move uniformly, they'd be rocketing all over the place, in different directions along a general path (up and to the right in this case).
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Insta Updates 1/3
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Ughhhh why?! It would take the same amount of time and poses if these were pp pages instead. >>959167
This is so tragic…
She actually is
getting a new laser kek. She’s mentioned it a few times recently
Oh shut the fuck up. She's been boring for a while now and most of the stuff posted here is here sketchbook art or boring ass comics which isn't milky at all. The fact that she's getting another laser is the most interesting thing to happen since her account got hacked.>>963986
Timestamp please. I wish to suffer only for a little while.
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It’s here boys
Time to sit back, relax and enjoy the show I guess
I wonder if she will just make the same stupid "merchandise" as before or actually has a game plan now. Her old razor laser store is still closed at least
Seriously, this is a cycle she goes through constantly - impulse buying expensive shit she doesnt need or use, resells after a few months to impulse buy other shit. Rinse repeat. This is like her cycle of rebuying and selling entire collections of copic markers every year. And of course as soon as she made the wise decision of going off her bipolar meds she made this extremely expensive mistake again.
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Welp…here we go again kek
i wrote these>>964462>>963822>>954228
and… NO! it WAS april first.. it can NOT be REAL
And she has her fucking cat sitting on it.
It's amazing how she's not "dealing with covid" will when all she's ever done was sit on her ass while her life passed her by.
She does work…a new job every week, apparently.>>965030
I imagine what she means is that the covid restrictions are preventing her from scheming and scamming her way into acquiring some other stupid shit she wants.
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Dunno if anyone is interested in what she's been up to with the laser the last few days but she's got it working. She's printing weird bags/purses now. In a previous story she said she didn't design them but "bought rights" to print and sell them. Here's one of them, there was a different one too from an older story but I didn't get a pic.
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Yeah, it's meant to be a bag. The other design she posted yesterday looked more like one, but the stories are gone now so I can't cap unfortunately. I don't know who would want bags made of wood except as costume props.>>966611
She definitely intends to sell them.
Also, recent tweets. Leather for straps maybe? Bottom tweet is the twitter algorithm assuming she's a man lol.
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Samefag but another cap from the story I forgot to post earlier.
>>966615>empty glass cups and shit strewn all over the table
I swear, it's like this with every cow.
Tinfoil but, is holly trying to reach the tumblr crowd by making cutesy/edgy accessories after realizing nobody wants her Donut Steel OC bullshit.
Or is she just gonna crap out shit she likes/thinks is cute but, doesn't really sell.
A bag. Of a coffin. With fucking bats on it.
Is this botch oblivious? I know bat and coffins have been a common goth theme for ages, but given the current pandemic state, it's pretty tasteless.
Also the paint job is shit.
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Another bag. You can see more in the background. Looks like she has at least 2 of the coffin ones in progress.
Whoever is still waiting is never getting theirs, she's just hanging onto their money for as long as possible at this point. If they complain, she refunds them, but she isn't proactively doing it. >>967504
Her mom probably gave her the check thinking it would cheer her up if she's been depressed for awhile. And seeing as how it immediately spiked her back into a manic phase I guess it technically worked.
A one time gift of two grand isnt enough to move out. She's incapable of keeping a job for more than like 2 weeks and stimulus check money would dry up on rent and utilities fast after a month. You guys really think she could survive on that? She should've put that shit straight into savings but her mom should've known better than to give it to her in the first place.
She will only be able to move out when she decides to put work into improving her mental health - getting serious about therapy, if not medication. Until then everything is a bandaid fix.
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I mean, even if she does decide to continue PP (after redrawing the first 15 pages once again) it's probably gonna be rushed to hell and back until we finally get to the badly drawn TRUST TRUST scenes between Reese and Hershey, since that seems to be the only aspect of PP she cares about anyway
yeah she said she cleaned it two weeks ago but then her shredder blew pieces everywhere.
So I guess It's been like that for two weeks. Nice.
It won't help in the long run of rent, but it will help with covering the insane down payment of a deposite for where ever she does decide to rent. For a first-time renter it's gonna be at least around $1,000 not to mention she'll probably try and bring her cats so go ahead and add on pet deposit. $2,400 probably would have covered her along with a little extra for a moving company.
But then again, she's too stuck in a short term mindset to think of that.
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Sorry but am I the only one bothered by how fucking gross her nails look in this video? I can' tell if this is old nail polish or dirt from working with the laser>>967543>>967745
Yeah obviously the shredder must be the only problem here, it's not like the carpet underneath has been filthy for years now, not to mention the other trash and clutter laying around everywhere
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Oh look she remembered
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Still looks like an auntie
She could've saved up for a deposit and more ages ago. She lives rent free in her mom's house. But she's incapable of keeping a job for any length of time or controlling her spending due to her untreated mental illness. Her life is going to be the same shitty cycle of failure it's been for her entire adulthood until she commits to therapy.>>968092
the aunt knew exactly what holly would do and freely made the decision to give it to her. the big shock to me was realizing by this how
different their dynamic/expectations of each other must be from what we assumed
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Seconded. From her aunt's POV, Holly has recently:
*Bought and resold a laser after unsuccesfully trying to make a laser business
*(Also scammed people with her Kickstarter, but the aunt probably doesn't know about that)
*Hasn't held a job for longer than a month
*Bought and allegedly wrecked a car
So the only logical thing to do was apparently to.. give her MORE MONEY?
Actually her mom probably thinks she is holding a job down, there has been numerous times on stream where holly says she has to be quiet because her aunt thought she was still at work when she had gotten fired a couple days ago. She probably lies as much to her mom as she does to her kickstarter funders
Honestly I would go as far to believe that her mom might not have even known about the laser depending on where hollys room is located in the house
>>970781>"There's an 11 year age gap between which I think is sort of problematic."
And that would be a really valid
point if it didn't come from someone who created an entire rape comic between her fujoshi bait characters or created and then tried to scrub out the existence of her sex slave comic
Anon she confirmed this in a stream not long ago if I'm remembering right. Anyone happen to have a link?
She'd probably have even worse daddy issues if she had an actual father figure in her life.>>970324
Her mom definitely doesn't have a full picture of what's going on with Holly, she lies to her and manipulates her constantly. She probably still thinks she's on meds too.
What is she even doing? Making ugly useless wood bags and reading fujo fics?
First minute in, she still hasn't found the will to live. kek
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She said she doesn't buy video games, since she's saving up for moving out.
Like bitch you just spent 2000 dollars of free money on the fucking lazer you've once already sold off since you didn't use it.
What an idiot.
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Was that really the only reason, Holly?
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Jfc… She's too old for the edgy crap.
also the paws again.
she's so fucking lazy
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First paranormal plague update in 3 months (1/3)
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You people have never painted your nails and it shows. When nail polish starts to come off it flakes off, and starts being pushed to the top of the fingernail as it grows. She either doesnt realize this is an infection or doesnt give a shit.
it looks like this
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She jumped on the sailor moon redraw bandwagon.
greatly dislike her art
In every way shape and form
oh my fucking god
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ive never watched a sailor moon episode in my whole life but even i know there's supposed to be a bow by the clevage. just crop the picture like the original image if you don't know how to draw her
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>>977091>it looks like this
no, it doesn't, because it's nail polish. sage your dumb ass.
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It's probably ink stained around the edges of the nail
>>977422> sheep features
It's the nose.
I don't understand why she wouldn't crop it to actually fit the frame referenced. Why can none of these artists get the expression right?
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She's selling those hideous wooden things for 80 dollars a piece.. Jesus
Didn't she get the idea to implement rape into her comic after she read Killing Stalking?
I hope she doesn't get back into it, though she is afraid of discourse so maybe she won't say anything about it?
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was looking on AO3 and came across this user who had a weird/similair art style to Holly's. Do you think it could be hers?
The hairpins are cute though, I actually like them.
She needs to branch out to sell these, I can see them being sold in one of those outdoor flea markets.
There is no doubt in my mind. I've seen and met people that just love their "nasty~ yaoi boys" and "sin babies~" like holly tries and pretends she doesnt and they all think that the fucking borderline offensive gay content in killing stalking is the best. She wrote her own kidnapping rape fetish comic when no one asked so if that's not some kind of indication>>979159
The ouija board keychain and the hair pins are nice but if she doesnt seal them properly like last time then shes not getting any good business
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new hp stuff
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Holly’s store is up for anyone who wants to seehttp://razorlaser.storenvy.com/
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the bookmarks look pretty cool, but she didn't specify how thick they are. who wants a huge ass wooden bookmark to bend your book in half?
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correct me if im wrong as i know nothing about wood but wont this snap in half after 1 use? the hair pin "legs" look really thin.
same with the pins. Ive had wooden pins before and stopped buying them because they break super easy.
the other stuff is okay i guess, i just don't see the market for these.
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I think this one might be the only flop in the selection. It's too crowded with those unnecessary swirls, everything is placed so weirdly, and her skeleton/skull arent really that great. I do like everything else and it seems shes actually learned from last time and is varnishing them properly. I genuinely hope this works out for her.
Basically, she wants to do 'craft' videos about her woodwork but instead of talking about why she enjoys doing stuff with wood, she quickly starts rambling about people being stupid and only wanting crafts they can do in 20 minutes. Says nothing she does ever takes 20 minutes and so people wouldn't watch it, because crafts on youtube are only for kids.
"A lot of crafting videos are meant for the lowest denomination of people who wanna be crafty but they cant do anything creative without an instruction manual"
regardless of if she's right or not, i'm so sick of her attitude.
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Probably from having a filthy room lol
Did she even send out the rest of those books either? Last I remember, a lot of the books she was finally pressured into sending were completely messed up (not aligned, missing pages/doubles of others, cropped badly. She’s the last person to be giving advice on zines given how piss poor she handled her last one.
I’m just amazed how often she gets away with pulling this kind of shit with little to no blowback.
The mugs are on her other store page https://hollybrownart.storenvy.com/
Don't know what happened to the fugly charms.
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After years of art school and self study her anatomy is still whack. The poses are so clunky and boring.
what's wrong with that.
twitter art school strikes again?
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i didnt recognize this as being harry potter fanartat first, and just assumed she redesigned hitler rapist to be fat for some reason.
she is so deeply, singularly obsessed with grown adult men raping boys that i would be certain it represented something that happened to her, if i didn't know it happened to her dad.
Who the fuck uses their art to process their trauma (and at the same time confusedly wanks off to it) when it isn't even their trauma? or maybe it is i dunno, hearing about that happening to your dad might fuck you up but the cummies factor doesn't really as much sense then..?
You’re reading into it wayyyy too much. It’s just a fetish, same as any other. I doubt there’s any deeper meaning to it. >>985746
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spent >"25-fucking-doll hairs"
on a water bottle on amazon because >"it's so cute. it's so no round"
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These look like the notes for
her upcoming 6hr long "how I make comics" video.
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Lol figure drawings can be done in ink, but Holly over works the lines and doesn't let them flow to actually capture the pose
Even if it's streched and twisted, that is a left hand on a right arm. How can you fuck this up so much? Drawing poses is nice but learning basic anatomy would be nicer. Also, like >>985970
said, Hershel is a fucking stiff corpse pasted on a bed. How can someone draw so much and at the same time improve so little?
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>>986054>How can you fuck this up so much?
You are talking about the person who drew pic related
Holly explaining the costly shipping price ($32) for shipping her sketchbooks is because of the weight of the higher quality paper she uses in them… then mentions it's cardstock.
L -O- fucking- L.
I feel like using the cheap ass Canson Multimedia paper she's so fond of, or Cansons' recycled bristol would be better. At least that has a vellum and a smooth side. Not dissing Canson at all btw, it's decent paper.
Just saying, cardstock is basically thick copy paper in terms of quality, and after shipping it, would be $47 USD (for overseas people) for a 5.5x8.5 sketchbook (with however many pages.)And then it's cheap ass cardstock inside.
Why not just sell the book covers with a printed page of 'how to book bind' inside? Be cheaper, and then people can put whatever they want in it. She'd sell more and make a better profit I'm sure, since she only gets $15 per completed book. Just sell the cover for the $15. Less work, more profit, more sales from people just interested in the wooden cover.
why doesn't she play to her fucking strengths! the color and texture and dynamics of this are great. if you fixed the big goofs like the hand it looks like something from an actual story book>Buh gonna change to thin lines no colors geometric harshness empty flat SHIT
fuck you, holly!
The fucking tangent on their legs/ feet is sending me>>985965
This is unappealing in every way possible. Yikes indeed.
she is trying to pass it off as some kind of deep and transformative exploration of trauma because she is a dumb fujo who doesn't want to admit to having a fetish. that's all there is to it.
at least she's not out here claiming she herself experienced csa to justify it like some people do, good job to her on that.
His foot just disappears, like where is it…?
What is she even doing. She's just spinning her wheels until the next out of touch obsession grips her and possesses her to spend all her money.
I didn't watch the video but is there any word on her laser?
>>986825>I didn't watch the video but is there any word on her laser?
Still going strong according to her. She had a couple totes full of items from her shop to ship, so we can assume she's getting a few sales at least.
No word yet on if she'll be making the kickstarter wood rewards, lol. So that looks like it fit under the rug nicely, and she's ignoring it still.
Speaking of, her kickstarter as of a month ago still has confused people commenting on it, wondering where their stuff is, as well as a flood of refunds. How the hell is there still people who haven't pushed for a refund?!
>>986186>mentions it's cardstock.>$47 USD
Lol, you could buy a professional grade watercolor journal for that cost, with the same amount of pages by the looks of her shop, if not more pages.
Just sell the covers separately Holly, FFS.
They've probably forgotten about it honestly. I mean I completely forgot about the shit I ordered 6 months ago overseas that got delayed from the pandemic and didn't remember until they started showing up on my doorstep over the last couple weeks. The kickstarter was funded over a year ago so I'm sure a large chunk of the backers hardly remember or care.
It's pretty telling that she hasn't made any sort of announcement admitting that she won't be completing the project and will be refunding people who did not get their rewards, but will instantly and quietly refund anyone who complains. She's really just trying to keep their money in her pocket for as long as she can get away with it.
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Thinking that holly might have stole this for her crappy sketchbook
I'm gonna assume she's gonna blame instagram not liking black and white art rather than people just not liking her art.
I'm amazed by her ego with her art because no one with eyes would say she's 'okay' at art much less 'good'.
Funfact: Black and white or well done very colorful works actually do better on IG because it catches the eye more when scrolling through photos/the average art piece
Not watching 10min of Holly’s video but this is absolutely wrong. As someone who follows a lot of comic artists, black and white comics or art is just as popular as coloured ones.
Or what people do is create B&W + one colour art. I know of at least 3 talented and dedicated artists who snagged book deals after getting a pretty big insta following.
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Epicdankmeme holly xDDD
In this video, we learn that Holly has added something else to the list of things that are considered 'cheating' in the art world.
So now: Using reference, digital work, studies, brush pens, sketching in pencil first, and now coloring are all considered cheating, or crutches for bad art and being lazy. WTF even.
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This isnt some steadfast rule.
If we compare Holly's colored art to her black and white art? yeah. That's obvious. For someone like her with absolutely no grasp of form, shadows, appealing art layouts etc it would be impossible to make a readable BW piece.
It depends on a lot of factors that you need to consider. Is it someone who actually knows what they're doing?
On instagram, which is the topic of the video, putting out the occasional and well done black and white piece draw the eye more and can REALLY show someone's skill level. If you look at these >>981404
you should be able to tell why Holly doesn't get attention on her BW pieces cause she has no idea how this kind of inking style should work.
It's still not great but you can see the difference I did my best to not alter and fix a lot of anatomy but there were a couple of spots that I edited because it was so off anatomy wise that I had to fiddle to make the shadows work.
I'm not denying that BW art is gorgeous and masterful. I enjoy BW art as much as color, because I can appreciate the skill that goes into making it read and the forms. Half of my art feed is BW art.
Just saying, that even at the hands of masters, colored art garners more attention on average. Even Kim Jung Gi (who mostly uses traditional black inks in his work, and is famous for it) gets more views on images with color, and color gradients to pop the inks.
Of course, everyone has preferences, but the average viewer skimming their feed prefers colored art, even if it's just a color backdrop to inks, it will get clicked more.
Also, that Bill looks a lot better. Nicely done.
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She did a live stream this morning and always have to draw her Garfield face characters
To be fair, a lot of modern art on Tumblr is ugly as shit. And she has no room to talk since her high school art was when she was at her best.>>988438
tbh I really like it when she draw ugly garfield faces. It's funny to look at.
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Some of Holly's new stuff off of insta 1/3
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Seems Holly is trying to post daily again so we might have more to look at from now on 1/2
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I remember her saying that about traps, that they were an "insult to femininity", of course traps =/= transgender women but that rubbed me the wrong way. Wouldn't be surprised if she was a TERF.
Also that in itself it's a stupid take, like whut.
>>992838>fujos tend to be transphobic
lmao I thought fujos ended up aidens because they're autoandrophiles.>>992521
I'm glad she's working in color again, doesn't fix anatomy but it's a good palette.
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>"2020 vs 2017 - lol I cringe internally when people say they like how I used to draw, what? Like shit?? Hahaha"
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Every time I see her old art, it just looks like a sloppy Don Martin knockoff.
I honestly love that terf has become synonymous with Karen it really triggers
artists complaining about art teachers not liking anime is hilarious.
The only time I ever took an art class, the teacher didnt care if you drew anime here and then. What they don't like is if that is all you draw.
Has holly ever attempted to draw realism? usually if their anime is bad, sometimes the realism is better. That happened with Baylee anyway
go back to twitter
it's btw because of whiners like you why holly is so boring nowadays since you had to have your moral crusades against her and now she's too timid to do funny stuff anymore
you were the ones who started whining about holly's oh so horrible terferism and throwing karens around
btw i firmly believe that the insults people throw at other people tell what they themselves find offensive and insulting so try to get over yourself before you become old and uncool karen too lmao
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Here are her latest posts…
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I get this is supposed to be redraw, but her sense of color is just horrid.
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She left this on her Kickstarter. She hasn’t updated before this since last October. At this point I think she’s had to refund more people than she’s had to ship books.
29 isn't too bad, all things considered.
I watch 'Michie'/'TwistedDisaster'/'Twisted Kuma vlogs', her friend for their own stuff, and in a recent Vlog, Michie had acquired some Purgatory stuff and wood charms from Holly. She made mention that the UPS guy had sent it back to Holly two times before, and it took forever to get.
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Dumbledore looks like a monster here. Why is he so large?
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New insta posts 1/2
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It's honestly hilarious how she doesn't understand that pecs aren't just a breastplate. If someone has their arm up like that, the pectoral muscles are going to stretch out, not just sit there like static bricks
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lol her friend is right
She did actually sell stuff before 2019 and I remember she even had a wall of fan art and fan mail for Purgatory so she had a decently sized audience. She was successful enough for an art channel and making ok money, enough to not have to work to pay her bills at least (though she lived with her mom so not enough to move out). She was planning to move out at the time but wasted her money on tons of bullshit instead of saving up. Let's remember that Holly has gone through multiple assembling and cutting machines for random projects way before the laser.
Plus she's deeply in debt from a degree she didn't finish. I think she could have paid it off if she had been more wise with her money and kept her original channel going but we know how that went.
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Talks about hating her dog in the video. People brought it up. This was her response. What a delightful human being!
She isn't working on anything. PP pretty much died after the rape comic, I don't know if those stupid wood projects are selling, she's not making videos or streaming.
I think we just gotta wait till she gives up on the laser
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Maybe it's just me, but her style seems to become more and more bland everyday, as does her subject matter. You really can't convince anyone she genuinely loves to draw.
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its like she saw your post about blandness and was like, oh you like blandness? how about literal lifelessness. ima draw a dead lookin body in a dead image
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The way she draws clothes is very off, and those hands
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Holly just spammed her insta with a bunch of doodles so 1/10
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Holy fuck, at this point its just depressing how little shes been able to improve over all these years
Out of all these drawings none of them look good, it all looks like slighty above beginner shit, how the fuck does this happen
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Reese has yet again two left hands, maybe this should become canon.
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Last update was in June. I honestly forgot about PP and thought she didn’t update past the first few pages as she doesn’t really advertise the comic outside of posting sketches of the characters on instagram
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This comment says it well too.
Holly just can’t make anything compelling outstanding of bad anatomy
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Holly is going to upload a video today
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New video up and already bitching about how much she hates to format people’s books that’s she’s getting paid for
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Holly should stick this post on her wall to remind help her get her priorities straight.
There is a concept for a comic and she has done about 5 pages, then redone them several times. She has not made any progress in several years
Maybe, though I feel like the main reason she bust that comic out so fast, was to pay bills; didn't she sell that? I seem to remember multiple vids of her working on it, talking about selling it. Not to say Reese and Hersh aren't her OTP/fetish, but Holly first and foremost is an artist motivated by money, and PP on it's own doesn't make much income until it's ALL finished, which is a huge undertaking.
If it was just about drawing her wank material, I feel like the art would have been better, and she would have taken more time on it.
But think about it:
She could've honed in on any one of her other money making schemes at the time she was making that comic, but she chose the one that gets her off.
Or, she chose the one thing that wouldn't cost any front cash in materials to make. Digital art has zero cost in materials, when you already own a tablet and the program. Every other side hustle she has going costs something.
I think she took a gamble on her viewership being as thirsty as she was to see her characters bang.
The amount of time and care she's put into her marauder era HP fan art shows she's willing to go the mile for her fetish. There's got to be 1000+ fanfics for her pairing, but she's so specific, she'll only read the ones that do it for her, and even then, wants to make her own content. The HP art has been better than her own OCs.
>scratched it out with one hand as fast as possible
True, but I'd argue that is more in line with making money asap. All her videos around the time of working on it, she mentioned wanting to make money from it. Whereas her HP stuff, money is an afterthought, and it's better art for it.
Side note: The only reason she's doing that Gamegrumps animation is as an advertisement for her page, to bring in more subs and sell more stuff. She might be lazy and manic, but she's got a decent business mind (when she can stick to it)
Previous emphasis on MANIC in the second last post.
She has ideas and a drive for making money in her own way, outside of the norm of 'getting a job'. She's made a graphic novel; art and story are meh, but it IS made and printed.
She's had at least 2 successful kickstarters (didn't fulfill them all, but it WAS funded). She's tried multiple ways of making money: Comic, printing stickers, badges, keychains, laminating, prints for other artists, things aimed at artists (copic holders), fan art books, the laser business, home decor, farmers market, and branching into other side gigs.
WTF do you call that, besides business? The ideas are all there, she's just manic AF to carry it out, and she goes full tilt on an idea before it's fleshed out.
Making Prints/merch for other artists to sell at cons fails because artists can get that shit cheap from China sites. Then she went to wood, because 'they can't get that from those sites'. Farmers' markets kick in when she realizes nobody wants to pay shipping on wooden stuff, half of which breaks in the mail.
She has the drive, but doesn't think it out all the time. She's got the mind to think of something else to try at least; and not a lot of people can get that far, so I give her kudos there.
If Texas has an art store that isn't Michaels, she should package her copic boxes/art stands to sell there as 'build it yourself'. Locally owned places don't mind sharing shelf place for a small cut of profits. Though… she's probably too much of a snob to set foot in an art store.
Just watch to the last two vlogs.
She bought 600 mini babies and thought it would be funny to hide all of them around TD's house and then she did it.
Yeah thats what i was referring to in my original comment. Reese as a person has never appeared in the comic though and i wouldn't put it past holly to try and change the plot sort of the way the game of thrones writers did as to like 'outsmart' the fans or whatever. It seems like a stupid thing to do but hollys not really a good writer and in some ways i definitely think parts of her work are meant to shock more than anything else; like how rape/sexual abuse was like a common theme in purgatory and had holly not written that in, the story might've been somewhat better even if its a hell of a lot less intriguing.
I may very well just be over thinking things, hollys been pretty dry on milk lately and its left me to come to conclusions on my own, instead of her just spitting out these things on a stream.
>>1023998>WTF do you call that, besides business?
I would feel bad if it happened to anyone else, but doing that to TD is pretty fucking funny. Considering Holly foots the bill for TD's lazy ass constantly, she can deal.
surely that must have taken 8 hours
come on can you not give a bit more detail for people who don't wanna wade through two sniffle vlogs?
>>1023998>She has ideas and a drive for making money in her own way, outside of the norm of 'getting a job'. She's made a graphic novel; art and story are meh, but it IS made and printed.
There's a reason why idea guys don't get anywhere. She wasn't scouted by a publishing house and given a contract. She self-published. Anyone can make a graphic novel, but not everyone can make one worth reading. We live in an age where it's easier than ever to get your stuff self-published. Lizbeth Jimenez is a published comic artist with several volumes of her manga out and her stuff is garbage too.
>She's had at least 2 successful kickstarters (didn't fulfill them all, but it WAS funded). She's tried multiple ways of making money: Comic, printing stickers, badges, keychains, laminating, prints for other artists, things aimed at artists (copic holders), fan art books, the laser business, home decor, farmers market, and branching into other side gigs.
The fact that she didn't fulfill them makes a world of difference. She's created a reputation for herself built upon not being able to plan or follow through. She's unreliable, and reliability makes a world of difference when it comes to business and maintaining an audience. She also spreads herself way too thin with all these half-baked 'business' ventures for ego rather than hustle. The only thing she want to fulfill is her fantasy of being a yaoi mangaka other fujos make ita bags for.
>WTF do you call that, besides business? The ideas are all there, she's just manic AF to carry it out, and she goes full tilt on an idea before it's fleshed out.
Like other anons have said, mental illness. Also, irresponsibility.
>She has the drive, but doesn't think it out all the time. She's got the mind to think of something else to try at least; and not a lot of people can get that far, so I give her kudos there.
Lots of hopefuls have drive. Drive is basically a dime a dozen. If you don't have any business acumen to go along with that drive, then it's useless.
Holly's got some serious issues.
But comparing her to Lizbeth is very unfair. Don't get me wrong she is cringey af and not a good writer, but Holly wished to be like her, since from the looks of it she has been invited to give talks at least once at a college and was accepted to multiple universities.
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Look at those beefy arms lol
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What’s with the…face
Honestly there was going to be a point where she mellowed out her cowish behavior. Once she hit her peak (tracing drama, zine drama) that was it. She hid/deleted her channel and decided to just go low key for the most part.
Her broken anatomy and bad comics aren't anything out of the ordinary anymore and playing armchair psych was never a fun or good idea.
It was different when she was out at cons peddling her amateur art and shitting on other techniques and mediums only to turn around and make a ton of half baked tutorials. She took a more active role and now she's more passive, probably because now she wants to keep a low profile.
Part of me misses her money making schemes and her $500 art prints with awkward themes and colors.
Maybe her urgency for money isn't as high right now so she's not frantically scrounging for ideas of how to shill (and shilling is actually something she's good at, amazingly her followers will always be that gullible). So we might not see anything too outrageous from her anytime soon, if ever.
I think I'm OK with that, personally.
>Part of me misses her money making schemes and her $500 art prints with awkward themes and colors.
Yes! This so much! I miss her wacky ideas.
>I think I'm OK with that, personally.
Me too, honestly. I've read 22 threads of this. Time to move on I guess. Was fun, fellow farmer!
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oh shiddd.. she updeeted some art.
and guess what chigys?? its shit!!
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lookit ash face!!
Ita baggers wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole, unless it was fitting to some cosplay character, but even then that's a very low chance.
It's not the worst ita bag design I've seen, but if she added the cat ears and cat face it would immediately look worse. Her cat art already looks bad, but ita bags with designs on the transparent front aren't good because the point of ita bags is to see the pins, not some fabric design hiding the pins
Good point. It kinda does look more like a box. I've seen leather bags in that style but never wooden…>>1042890
You never know. CalArts is an animation school, right? Not a wood crafting school.
samefag who brought up calarts, for sure was not talking about her wood related stuff. She would never get accepted, be in animation or the acting department. >>1043270
Just the fact that at one point she said she got in and then made a 15-20 minute video ranting about how stupid and awful calarts is will always be hilarious and kind of sad. She seemed to have no idea why they wouldn't take her, mentioned that she has been told her art is incredibly stiff and doesn't seem to see it herself. She needs a teacher and a new work space. Her room cannot be good on her mental health, all that mess and I can only imagine the bugs she must have because of her food laying around. Would she even listen to a teacher though? "Maybe for such a big line, you can try getting the movement from the shoulder instead of the wrist." She'd freak. She has the ego of a 15 year old weeb.
I mean making ita bags isn’t an awful idea since she sells a bunch of pins but I feel like Holly has never actually used a bag before. These bags are so impractical! Imagine throwing your phone in one and having to hear it jumble along with each step you take! Also I’m pretty sure that thing will bruise your hip from crashing into it all day long.
As for the ita aspect of the bag, the insert seems like it would be a pain to work with. Foam inserts usually are preferred because you can easily change things up without dealing with holes.
Didn’t she already have one of those??
Like, wouldn’t that have been what she printed the zine with?
Also the screencap redraw looks pretty good. It’s a shame she’s so much better with colors and shading then drawing like a comic artists….
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This one looks like her
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Holly is roasting her own lineart, she doesn’t checks her own comic to edit it clean her comic
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Top notch digital lineart
She admits in this video that the hardest drug she has ever done was ritalin or something. It was very preachy, moralfaggy, and inconsiderate of the various reasons people get into drugs. And extremely dehumanizing to their victims
. She did the same old bitchy trick about talking shit about a type of artist and then was too chickenshit to show examples because she can dish it out but she can't take it. IMHO I think she's a compulsive liar with the track record of how many things she's acted like she knows all about. She just thinks she's the shit and I have no idea why people like this are allowed to go on having such inflated egos and people just let it fly and award them for being extremely narcissistic. It's disgusting how gullible people can be.
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Holly posted a new video on the vlog channel. I didn't watch all of it, but here's a screencap of her dirty foot.
she literally mentioned in the video she was taken away from her bio parents for being drugs addicts or alcoholics or both, she is a victim
of drug abuse, just kind of 'indirectly' as not being much of a user. you must be new because she mentions this on occasion, or just the fact that her 'mom' is actually her 'aunt'
she's just kind of word salading about drugs I think because she's just looking for content to talk about
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Of course she makes wood stickers of her characters
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Making a zine, is she going to ship them a year later lol
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Oh gawd she made Jack and Sally, but she made them the same height
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oh dear, here we go again
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Still can’t take criticism
Holy shit her calves are t h i c c
Why does she think these wood charms/things look good? They all look so brittle and cheap
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She probably meant her perspective
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Can't tell if this is self-post. She must be socially inept. I know the internet makes people retarded, but being this rude when the artist will probably see your comment is odd. Especially when her art, while not bad, is nothing special and she has way fewer followers so it looks petty. This comment chain is on the 11th drawtober post with Princess btw.
Milk so dry farmers are going after people who comment on Holly’s pictures…
Seriously though Holly doesn’t really seem to be a cow anymore. Her latest streams seem really tame compared to her old stuff and her new obsession with wooden ita bags seem more sad than milky. Her art is still mediocre but it’s not like she has a huge following anymore.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
hey, person who knows the polish language here. "Papieżyca" is the translation of the tarot card "II the high priestess." Basically, it's a play on words, of "papieżyca" and "papierzyca," the latter being a new word created from "papier" which obviously means paper.
Basically, it's a really stupid pun.
Sorry for the sperg (no1curr), just wanted to clear that up.
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Maybe old milk but apparently she has a wood shop in her room completely without ventilation for the varnish and sand dust everywhere even on her bed where she sand that coffee table
Honestly, I don't really care she doesn't seem to care about getting better at drawing now that she isn't really posting videos giving 'art advice'. Her new tutorial videos about selling at farmers markets and setting up stalls aren't that bad since she seems to know what she's talking about from experience.
As for the comic I still really like the concept but I doubt Holly will get a huge audience for her work. The webcomic market is extremely oversaturated and people who don't post consistently and frequently usually don't end up doing that well.
oh she's still giving art advice, don't worry.
learn all about black fills and super thin lineart.
nah i think this is ok. not great art, but fine. some people have this skin tone and hair color naturally… it happens.
what i dont like about the drawing is what the hell are those legs doing? the skirt part and thighs placement looks uncanny valley anatomy wise.>>967553
oh dear God. this just looks like sex drawn by a virgin…>>967580
well maybe she changed her mind. dunno how old she was when she drew that. maybe she was a teenager back then idk.>>982250
is that actual wood? or plywood?>>982537
that 'grain of the wood' looks a little artificial (like on plywood).
so yup it's gonna snap.>>985746
yeah…… drawing Uncle Vernon with dark hair…. oh i forget she's never read the books.
placement of the characters looks really weird and that botched perspective in the background….>>985965
this confirms it. Reese is actually an alien from outer space. no human has these body proportions. [inb4 someone actually finds someone who looks like that. im sorry]
Holly does sound happier here. Like she finally found some friends to play fantasy roleplay games with. Good for her.
Now if she would only pick up a short YouTube tutorial on anatomy, and clean up her home. Let us hope this new year brings new beginnings.
Lol, I spoke too soon! The thin lineart looks better than her old thick style but the line weights seem off and everything just blends together. Her art is slowly improving but she would be better off just grinding fundamentals. >>1129313
Holly does sound a lot happier now that she's not in the limelight having to be held accountable for the dumb stuff she says.
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I didn't realize this chick is still relevant. I used to be a fan of hers a few years back and looked up her name to see how she's doing these days. Seems she hasn't improved and is still a bad person. I wanted to share what made me stop following her a few years back after having 2 bad experiences with her.
1) I started watching her at the height of her youtube popularity. I thought her being outspoken was refreshing and didn't realize at the time that it wasn't that she was "honest", she was just being an asshole. Anyway, I bought some stuff from her to support her. (Yes, I know I was dumb, hindsight is 20/20. See the screenshot attached for proof). The stickers were just okay, not the highest quality. But the zine was fucking atrocious, and not even worth $5. Full of spelling mistakes and bad anatomy. How can you sell a product and not even run the contents through spellcheck if your spelling is that bad? This left a really bad taste in my mouth and I decided to not order from her ever again, but still watched her videos and streams.
2) I was watching her live stream, and she had a Paypal donation link in the description. I sent her $10 on there which made her phone ping as I guess she had Paypal mobile app installed, and she acknowledged it by saying "who the fuck is blowing up my phone? oh that's just fucking paypal". Like??? I'm literally giving you free money and the best you can do is just curse at me? Not even a "thank you"? She could have thought it was from someone making an order, but still, people are giving you money for your bad quality goods and you cuss them out? I've never felt like such a clown. Then all the stuff about her fetishizing rape and the like came out, and I stopped following her completely. Still disappointed in myself for ever liking this burning trashpile of a person.
Well she's no longer relevant, which is interesting to see. I also liked her at the height of her popularity and my friend was a little bit iffy about it. I just thought her traditional inking was neat, and honestly it's what got me to get into traditional inking. But then she got more and more miserable and her art just never improved and it was honestly painful to watch. I thought the same thing, that she was being 'honest' and that was different from other arttubers, but in reality she was just an asshole.
I would love more 'honest' arttubers but I think once a certain shtick sells, they stick to it.
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Holly wants to buy a mobile home.
So she's gonna burn wood… inside a tiny space like a van?
Seems like a real bad idea. There has to be a cheap space she can rent and make do her business, make money and then move out to a home of her own.
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MAYBE a reach but uh Holly's sun sketchbook in her razor laser store looks kinda like the black sun. I don't think it's covert nazism, and more just lack of awareness but yikes
has she even updated it? I feel like the ones who give away a ton of information ahead of time know they're never gonna get to it, story-wise
it's a red flag to me
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Bought Clip Studio again.
none of these were particularly milky. as >>1229738
said it's pretty dead now and i hope she does get her shit together.
so.. she seemed to be attracted to underage boys and them being gay with each other - but maybe it was her picturing herself, as the gay boy. kissing the other boy. Wait that's still being attracted to boys. uh…
is she saying that she is a gay male
She addresses her past controversies in this video, but doesn't touch the CalArts lie and the kickstarter and zine debacles with a 10ft pole. Those were what really fueled her threads here. She only addressed the tracing, her art hot-takes and general abrasiveness. Which fair enough because the tracing is what ended up 'canceling' her. She references the 600 page sketchbook challenge critism in this video and has in past livestreams too because she thinks it's valid
and related to her bipolar. Other than that the threads are all lies because I guess Shannon said there was a dead rat in Holly's room lol. Which is a bit disingenuous but I don't blame her.
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Gotta love the opening shots of her old play button. This is disgusting.
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I was bothered by the same points you brought up. She was definitely cherry-picking her past antics to play it safe and avoid reminding people that she was responsible for a lot of serious shit like the Kickstarter debacle (which I’m sure she still never fully fulfilled and people who are still subbed to her channel might have been reminded). Not to mention she got rid of her twitter herself, it wasn’t hacked. She constantly deleted posts and blocked anyone who gave her constructive criticism. I’ll give her props for acknowledging that she was problematic
but she conveniently omits these details to make herself seem not as bad as Shannon. Kinda laughed at her “everything is a lie there” bit. I guess because we called her out on her scamming both her Kickstarter and Etsy customers as well as people who participated in her zines, It’s immediately made irrelevant because Shannon manufactured some stupid shit. Doesn’t mean everything that was documented here is now delegitimized.
I guess good for Holly for keeping her head down and doing her thing nowadays, hopefully she sticks to making mediocre art, at least she seems to enjoy it now.
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If holly ever did “art” for advertisement lol
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She honestly should have just shut her mouth then. I guess the potential to be relevant again and have people look in her direction was too tempting to really pass up since she really tried boosting her laser business in the previous video.
She does need to tread carefully because people didn’t forget about her issues… like not fulfilling store orders or sending them months late.
Problem is, she talked too much about lolcow itself and not just her experiences with Shannon. On her livestream she claimed to only know what Shannon has said about her on lolcow by watching youtube videos. She won't ever come to the site or read any posts herself. She then trys piecing together Shannon's posts with hackings, a discord hijack, harrassment and stalking. While doing so she continually reminds her chat that she only knows about the posts youtubers have chosen to read off, not everything, and bumbles around. It's no wonder she has followers contacting her trying to fill her in, she practically baited them to go 'help her' by looking up shit. Which I know is the opposite of what she wanted. She was probably just trying to make her chat think she is less familiar with Lolcow then she really is.
Now she keeps half-assed dragging out her own dirty laundry when she never had to. She needs to stop while shes ahead
are you talking about >>1258273
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Sage for lack of milk but HB is moving into her own apartment. (pic related : from her Twitter.) I can’t wait to see a walkthrough and how she decorates. I also can’t wait to see how long it takes for it to become a shit hole like her bed room but maybe that won’t happen.
Excellent! I do love seeing what Holly did but I'm completely not surprised at how fucked her living situation is.
It's apparent that Holly is sleeping on that shitty Wayfair couch and I don't see that working out in the long term. I get that Holly had to move in haste but she's sleeping in her living room and working in the bed room. I just don't understand why this couldn't be reversed. Holly's not going to have people over so that argument is invalid.
I love that campy ass kitchen decor. Looks like if David Lync threw on a party city 1950s drag queen.
I don't think the living room has a window and the laser printer needs one for that exhaust tube. I was thinking the same thing, the bedroom is already so cramped and she'd have much more space in the living room.
I just want to see how long it takes to become trashed. Even less surfaces to sit clutter on won't help her type. Those types will start sitting dishes and trash on the floor. Will she get wood stain and paint all over the bedroom floor? Hard floors get dirty super easy and stuff gets tracked all over the house if you never vacuum. Not to mention keeping up with kitchen and bathroom clutter and messes. I'm an ass but I won't be surprised if she stops showing the whole house within months.
Okay, so the laser needs a window for exhaust. I completely understand that. I didn’t notice that the living room didn’t have much in the way of windows. Maybe Holly could move again when her money gets right. Whenever that happens.
Despite my low expectations I do want HB to succeed only because I want to see more of her lifestyle and what she spends her money on. I’m a bit voyeuristic when it comes to the lifestyles of the Internet’s artist.
Just like you I do wonder how Holly will keep that floor clean. I have laminate flooring and just spent the entirely of yesterday sweeping, dusting, and mopping. I really doubt that HB will be doing this weekly.
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Yo why is this random YouTube drama Chanel in Holly's Livestream?(necro )
Honestly her stuff isn't even that milky anymore. She genuinely seems like she's growing as a person, especially with how she's addressing the Japan/rising sun thing.
Not gonna lie though, her suggesting that she's going to turn her youtube channel into basically what her art channel was but for glowforge and laser tutorials makes me feel like there's potential for her to cycle back around again into the cringey chaos.
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nta but I think she's talking about this
I've listened to one of TD's livestreams and she says that Holly had to move in with her sister and is currently living with her at this time.
TD and her husband were planning to move to Texas but to be with her but things came up and they had to put that on hold.
Iirc she dated a guy in either high school or post-secondary (before going distance learning then eventually dropping out). She reportedly dated around a bit several years ago, and though anons didn't believe her it's pretty realistic to me. In rural North American areas there is no huge looks or personality threshold for dating, plus the people she mentioned on her streams didn't seem like winners.
During the stream where she discussed her sexuality (unclear if she's still identifying as a lesbian) she mentioned wishing to date Michelle with Michelle's husband just kind of being there kek, so this situation doesn't surprise me. It seems she doesn't get out much so that, along with where she lives, means it would be quite hard to meet other gay women. It also seems that she has trouble connecting with and maintaining relationships of any kind, so perhaps it's the bond she already has with Michelle that makes her shrug and say why not.
Despite it all I wish the best for her. She's mellowed out a lot and even in her new tutorials she's become pretty humble.
Thanks for all the info anon. That certainly explains, I sommetimes forget that she lives in the rural area and I can believe that she did have a previous dating history more than likely dating average to below-avr=erage looking guys who were into things like anime and video games.
And I think you may be right with why she felt it was best to date Michie. She hardly leaves her house, she doesn't have much of any friends, and she's known Michie for a long time and he managed to keep in contact with her even during the zine disaster. She feels comfortable around her and she doesn't have much prospects anyway so why not. It's funny though that she clearly is only there for Michie and not really her husband, living up to the stereotype of how the love in a poly relationship may not be evenly split.
This is so fucking true. Ever since Michie got in this poly relationship she always feels the need to mention how she has a girlfriend now and it coming off annoying as shit. Like she thinks that now that she's dating a woman along with her husband, she gets bragging rights to be able to speak up on lesbian dating (just watch, she's totally gonna do this come Pride next year kek).
>As for Michies husband and Holly there's not much interaction between them and I don't think they have that much in common
Right, I caught that too. Michie's husband seems more like one of those gruff (I used t this term loosely) mechanic guys who is mostly into cars and construction while being into some animu and game stuff. I think it's up in the air if the two will develop an intimate bond where it can go either way. She certainly isn't picky about looks so they have that going.
Yeah this. Michie has said it was all her idea to have Holly be in their relationship, she said that her husband didn't mind as long as she was happy. Hard to say how he really feels about it but I think you and >>1654193
are both right that things may change when they all move in together and he has to deal with both of them in a more regular way. And as much as I hate to be a Debbie Downer, I have a feeling that will be what makes them split, either Holly gets removed out of the "trouple" or Michie leaves her husband for Holly and the two potentially struggle together to get by. Because as much as Michie likes to say that she pays for a lot of her/her husband's finances, it's clear that her husband is the breadwinner.
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I hope you're right, that sounds hilarious. As much as I would like to say I wish Holly well, she's had so many opportunities to better her life and she's squandered all of them, so I'm just here for the shit show.
>>1653819>Holly is her ticket to be in the LGBT cause " look guys I have a girlfriend
Anon you're absolutely right about this. I watch Michie's streams on her Twitch sometimes for background noise and whenever she has Holly on, Michie is the one who acts so fucking obnoxious about it. She always says things like
"Oh I Luv you BEEBEE, you're my girlfriend"
"I mean I want to because you're my girlfriend!"
Just a few examples, she always feels the need to remind her chat every few minutes that Holly is her girlfriend and even when she's not there, whenever she's talking to her other friends, she'll still find a way to mention "My girlfriend" or "My GF" and it's especially obnoxious when they're talking about Gay (they say "queer") stuff and now she feels like she's suddenly an expert.
Holly isn't as bad admittedly, like she won't yammer on about how Michie is her GF, she's still just has her occasional edgelord-ness that she always has but at least with the "relationship", she's actually lax about it in comparison.
I don't think she will troon out anytime soon. The one that will probably trigger
that will be michie. Holly's channel is basically dead, her art is not appealing and only draws her ocs. Her live streams are boring where she only talks about the same topics over and over again. While the chat is full of enablers that will say she haves improved and can do no wrong. She got nothing going on, is very annoying and boring. My theory is that she took his relationship so she would not/feel alone. Which is kind of a double edged sword considering that Michie is her only friend. So when this fall out she will genuinely be alone. >>1657816
Those 2 are just michie's friends.I have never seen a livestream or interaction with those 2 and Holly if michie was not there. Michie just invites Holly to be there. Holly is always been an edge lord cause according to her " I'm like a 12 year old boi".
Ah okay, thank you for the info on how Holly doesn't interact with Michie's troon friends or the enbie one. I don't really watch Holly's streams for the very reasons you pointed out, her streams by herself were so boring.
I suppose Holly won't troon out then since she doesn't have the influence of those people. It's uncertain what's gonna happen with her to be honest. Shes' just here, art style still the same that not a lot of people are interested in and her personality is not easy to like or root for. The next thing I see happening is eventually Mitchie and her husband moving out to Texas since they've made it very clear that they want to leave California and during that stage of her life, it'll either go really good or implode be it Michie's husband not digging the poly relationship or Michie thinking she should be with Holly or her husband only.
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lmao. hollys last page for paranormal plague looks soooo bad. its from this year too. this is the amount of work shes putting in now: even less, because the storys barely moved out of the diner. i find it amazing how after these couple of years theres no improvement or progress. i guess when you surround yourself with troon hacks and twistedisaster youre not bound to go places. i mean that figuratively and literally
I really hate how she draws those lines on human bodies… Like why can't she learn proper anatomy or just not draw them at all since it seems like she's going for a more simplistic style anyway. It's just unsightly looking.
But yeah you're right, clearly because she hangs around Twisted Disaster and that Starheavenly girl who have some pretty "meh" styles, you have no intensive to improve.
Sounds like an excuse instead of being actually canceled. Her mental health took a dive and went through a lazy depression era.
Not being super popular doesn't mean canceled
>>1769030>>She and Michie broke up/ taking some time. (Safe to say they were not even in a romantic relationship. Michie just got tired of dealing with her and told her “she needs time” until it is convenient for her to have a girlfriend again.)
Wait holly and Michie broke up? I guess that makes sense why Michie hadn't been talking about her in her recent streams. But let's be real, most probably knew they wouldn't last anyway. To add onto what you said about how Michie probably got tired of dealing with her, I also feel like the only reason Michie got with her was so that she can have excuse to claim herself to be gay and can whine about her nonexistent oppression as a gay. I only say that because Michie would moan on and on about, almost like she was gloating about having a girlfriend and being "the ghey" (in her words).
It was just a "relationship" built on convenience (Holly) and attention whoring (on Michie's part). >>1769057
Agreed, it sounded like a total cope on her end. Like I mentioned, she only had like 3 people who made videos on her and they weren't "cancel" videos. Ignoring Creepshow, the other two were constructive criticism videos to help her improve her work. She just got too comfortable in her bubble to hear some honest truths about her art and how she needed more practice.
I'll give her some props for being honest in not wanting to improve, at least she admitted to it. It's just a shame because she has potential to be better.
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I'm laughing at the penis shaped fish
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I guess Holly going trans explains her selling this key chain in her store.
(Link to the item: https://razorlaser.storenvy.com/products/36424759-j-k-rowling-is-a-pants-pisser-keychain
Granted some of the items in Holly's store are kind of cute and clever. Like the spooky earrings but they're just clear resin ghost.
I assume you listened to her latest livestream, but if you haven't, she supposedly went to a clinic and got approved for hormones almost immediately. She even said that the clinic told her it could help manage her bi-polar, since 'men are less emotional'. I'm not joking. If she troons out it will be very sad or wildly entertaining, maybe both. But definitely cringey either way.
She is waiting and thinking it over for now. Michie has a lot of fake boi/ fujo TIFs as friends, so this isn't surprising.
NTAYRT but this is just so maddening because like >>1776062
mentioned, Holly seemed like she was turning her life around as she found something she's very interested in with her woodworking and taking her meds to regulate her BPD. Her trooning out is gonna wreak all kinds of negativity to her again since the prolonged HRT usage has been shown to mess with mental health.
If Holly does go through with it, I'm just picturing her becoming an obese, hairy woman who's delusional about how"good" she looks and suffering from health problems like all the other TIFs and TIMs that yammer on about how they don't regret fucking up their health.
Her being approved for the HRT almost immediately also just showcases how these organizations really don't care and just care about getting your money kek. I'm curious what her mother thinks about this.
>Michie has a lot of fake boi/ fujo TIFs as friends, so this isn't surprising.
I definitely think this has something to do with it. You're right that the majority of Michie's friends are fakebois & fujo tifs most of which are zoomers. She interacts with 2 on the regular (Starheavenly and Vero). Michie made a retarded comment recently in one of her streams on how most of her friends are guys when the reality is that most of these "guy" friends are just TIFs.
It's actually depressing (and pathetic) seeing these grown ass women trying to "how do you do fellow kids" with their retarded zoomer audience who all have some sort of mental delusion because even Michie started saying shit like how she's a "demisexual bisexual on the "ace" spectrum" because she doesn't want to fuck her friends.