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So, what the fuck happened to Homestuck?
For years, Homestuck has captivated its internet audience both with its seemingly endless creativity and a mile high pile of fandom horror stories. The comic itself may have ended in 2016 but it has been subject to many sub-par spin offs and sequels, like any decent IP. Long story short, Andrew Hussie (creator of MSPaint Adventures) forked over his dry cash cow to a bunch of crazy freaks. Some speculate that the drama surrounding the New Homestuck Team has been manufactured and is an elaborate ruse concocted by the newly married middle-aged man to sink the franchise and pawn the blame off on someone else, thus finally washing his hands of it for good. Hiveswap Act 2 is taking forever to come out, despite being 90% finished for over a year, and Acts 3 & 4 are completely kill. If that indeed was the plan, it has transformed into an out of control whirlwind of faux pas, homophobia, racism, sexism, and every other -ism under the sun. HS^2 has ushered in a new era of Homestuck, where if you scream the loudest you win, and you can only get ahead by hurting others. Enter: Kate Mitchell.
Kate Mitchell is a communist larper who claims to have "radicalized" Andrew Hussie. Mitchell has stated herself on twitter that she had hoarded the "official Homestuck url" until Andrew Hussie asked her to hand it over, which is when they got to talking. After this, Mitchell was tasked to carry on the story of the Homestuck epilogues with a more "progressive" flair that only a trans woman with a history of scamming can bring. Of course, she has since used this opportunity to turn HS^2 into her soapbox, blatantly harass people and be a giant cock in general, getting multiple smaller artists de-platformed for disagreeing with her insane opinions. Don't ask her where the Patreon or Kickstareter money are going, though! She might be blowing it on personal expenses like furry conventions and multiple other plane tickets across America for her and her friends, which is totally acceptable for someone as Brave and Stunning as herself.
So far, in Mitchells quest to end transphobia, she has:
>Scammed people out of jobs>Scammed people out of money>Sold nudes to minors>Harassed said minors for being uncomfortable around her>Self inserted as Vriska Serket>Wore Vriska Serket themed panties>Made Vriska Serket, John Egbert, and Roxy Lalonde trans>Said anti-pedophiles are TERFS>Tried to incite violence multiple times>Gotten multiple people fired from working with her for little to no reason>Posted her address online, got mad when people found it >Shoplifted from pharmacies when they delayed her HRT>Ran for local office>Lost to a corpse>Baited someone into suicide>Left twitter three times already but is gonna leave again for real this time!Now she complains about AGP rights on shrike.club, her hugbox that only her friends can respond to
Kate's twitter:
https://twitter.com/gamblignant8Mastodon:
https://shrike.club/@kateAppropriate KiwiFarms thread with more in depth info:
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/whatpumpkin-llc-homestuck-inc-chuck-tingle-andrew-hussie-and-friends.28105/A popular callout post against Kate:
https://twitter.com/vampwh0re/status/1241133135602913281A video about Kate scamming people:
https://streamable.com/vkoz5Another video about Kate scamming people:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avFslkpECGIThis is a rabbit hole that needs a full day to explain properly, but I got the idea to make this thread after people were talking about Validate(a project run by Dani [@laIonders], a What Pumpkin reject and Kate Mitchell's right hand flying monkey) in /m/. Have fun.
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>>981282I wish I stopped as well, don't look back it's not worth it.
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I forgot to mention, she hops fandoms a lot after she fucks them over but that's pretty obvious.
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I don't know why she thought it was a good idea to sell shitty nudes on the Homestuck business twitter when she has a private NSFW twitter.
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>>981290She's not Vriska so she can't have anything good.
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>>981305Some people donate to the Patreon just to leak the updates, which is something I appreciate.
>>981324She's MTF.
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>>981327She's really dick-obsessed and so are the rest of her troon cabal, but what else is new.
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>>981330Don't it? This is just the tip of the iceberg, What Pumpkin's all rotten from the head down.
No. 981406
>>981320can you guys briefly recap what’s going on re: roxy etc? i haven’t paid attention to homestuck in ages and i’m not going to dip my toe in that saliva-bucket again anytime soon
is everyone just trans? that’s some rowling ass retconning. exhausting.
No. 981409
>>981406Agree anon I'd like a recap too. Like, sure I don't hate trans people but that's just retconning to recon and that's just annoying as fuck for people who've been invested for years.
Like. IDGAF is a new character is trans or what the trolls do but really? The humans who are mainly KIDS just so happen to be fully trans? The fuck?
No. 981410
>>981406I'd like to add onto this and ask if someone can sum up wtf is going on with Jade too?
God. I really loved HS, and I stand by it–it was a whole lot of fun at its peak with some really strong characters. But it makes complete fucking sense that it's been taken over by an opportunistic fetish-obsessed transbian who kins Vriska (ofc it's Vriska). I wish Hussie would just move onto a totally new project without any of these weird hangers-on that have been shitting up the comic since, like, 2012
No. 981439
>>981406In the web epilogue novel, roxy goes through a phase where she explores her gender. In homestuck2 he appears masculine, and no one comments on his transition.
i don't recall the full situation completely, but I think there was an election and jane won. dirk was influencing jake to run for president but he shat his pants??. Dirk anheros again at one point at that's where homestuck2 starts off
tbh it sounds like a shitty fever dream but hardcore fans stick by it
No. 981440
THANK YOU FOR THE THREAD
Fuck I hate Kate. some other writers/artists that were working on HS^2 have stepped away (my bet is to get away from Kate, because they just otherkin COMMUNIST Vriska too hard)
>>981406>>981410It was a semi-popular headcannon that Roxy was transfem in the initial Homestuck comic. In the Epilogues (specifically the Meat Route) both Roxy and Calliope come out as Non-Binary. later Roxy just transitions to transmasc leading some characters to mistake them for Dave. And nobody questions it.
As for Jade…Because Jade prototyped herself to Becsprite and then went Godtier…she has a dog dick now
In the Candy timeline of HS^2 Jade and Rose end up having a secret baby named…Yiffy.
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No. 981512
>>981492I used to be the biggest fuckin austist for homestuck so to see Vriska being portrayed as an uwu soft baby who never did anything wrong instead of a total fuckin bitch who helps because she knows she needs to is so pointless
Like the best part about her is that she was THE biggest cunt out of everyone
this is SO much fuckin brainrot
>>981411I'm cackling out how fuckin flat he is, he seems like one of those people that they'd say you're jealous they """pass""" as a woman
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I'm incredibly glad that this thread gained traction. Kate has finally went through and deleted suspect tweets, and will probably shut her twitter account down after being revealed to be a revolutionary larper who pretended to participate in the riots.
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After Kate was accused of being behind the Homestuck account and people started to call her out for her exceptional behavior, the Pesterquest account that has been silent for months suddenly came back to life.
No. 981614
>>981608I don't like the new crew (esp "Kate") nor their content but this expectation that Homestuck has to keep tweeting about BLM is so dumb. They're a brand and brands always get a lot of shitty comments whenever they try to be woke. And they should, it looks like marketing and I don't really think a brand can have an ideology unless it's a very specific kind of business. If they tweeted more, people would have some shit to nitpick about that too. There's no winning.
People that aren't outside doing shit themselves are the ones policing others' online behavior.
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>>981614It was expected because Kate constantly posts about these things on the Homestuck twitter account to "radicalize" people, so her suddenly being quiet about this one raised flags.
Also, Dani is here to defend her BFF. Yes, the same Dani that made an entire dating sim(ValiDate) because nobody was romantically interested in her or her awful friends.
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Andrew Hussie at a furry con reading Mao while Kate takes a picture.
No. 981676
>>981673Don't think I remember them - mind elaborating?
Also anyone remember that time a teenager self harmed and carved gamzee's name into their skin, and HS fans all got mad at them saying "you're making the fandom look bad" 2012 - 2015 tumblr was on some crackhead shit
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People still want the game that they paid for.
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>>981714But apparently What Pumpkin employees don't think anyone "deserves" Hiveswap.
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>>981676Was one of the “big” Homestuck cosplayers back in the day. Scammed people with commissions, got called out for it and posted gifs of her crying and breaking down in a Meenah cosplay as a reply.
Also came to a meetup dressed as Damara and flashed her panties at people the whole time
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HS Epilogue summary on HS^2 site.https://homestuck2.com/recapJfc I've seen Kate's acct on twitter but never realized they were on the team, I'm stupid. There are so many twitter callouts for Kate, lol. With Yiffany as an actual character name I'm glad I dropped HS^2.
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>>981868The candy route is just hot garbage. I wish they would stick to the shit happening in the meat route with Dirk. Even trans Roxy is better than Yiffany and the Vriska self-inserting.
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>>981916Yes, but trannie writer-chan gave Jade
A NEON DOG DICK (literally) and made Rose have an affair with Jade, so Rose could get pregnant and have a kid called Yiffany
"Yiffy" Longstocking Lalonde Harley. They've been hiding this affair for years, but apparently Kanaya is 'okay' with it.
Yiffy also means Yiff which is antro/animal porn.
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Who the fuck runs this account??? I feel like they’re trying to make up for the backlash they got because they didn’t comment on the protests fast enough.
No. 982201
>>982188Dog dick Jade was a huge fetish thing in the fandom when it was at its peak, 2012-ish I think. I saw that kind of porn all the time when she merged with Bec and it was fucking gross. It wasn't even a niche fetish from a few artists, there were HUNDREDS of drawings of Jade's knot. They really liked to draw her fucking Davesprite's cloaca.
100% fetish insertion. Hussie did gross humor but you could tell it wasn't to get his rocks off.
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>>982312Same, I hate that he couldn't just finish the comic and work on something else instead of turning it into a mlm scheme.
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Kate lost an election to a dead guy.
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Narcissist/autogynephiliac combo ftw!
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That one time where she doxxed herself.
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>>982585Kate deleted the tumblr associated with the Laurelai stuff, unfortunately. She has a habit of wiping all of her social media periodically.
>>98259428
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>>982449Anyone know why she got suspended?
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>>982756Kate and Dani have at least two suspended twitter accounts each, but they keep making mew ones. I'm sure they were suspended repeatedly for harassment.
>>982765Kate likes to subject other people to ger fetishes.
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>>981668of fucking course. every single ugly nerd who makes a name for himself eventually drops everything and shacks up with a trophy costhot. Bonus points if she cosplayed his characters/fandom before they met.
>>981671This. Not that I blame him for hating the fanbase, they were insufferable. Weird that he managed to ally himself with the most degenerate stragglers though. maybe they were the only superfans left.
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>>983394Haha, how did you know :]
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>>981668>>983394>>983417Shelby has always been an unfortunate looking woman but this is just rough. If I was her I would have strangled her sister for posting this to her instagram.
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Why are so many anons here enabling Mitchell's delusions? He has a penis.
>>981668Is Shelby's sister who V/IPGD is?
>>982023That was canon in the original comic, though. Unpopular opinion but I never had any problems with that ship.
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>>985489Because I was introduced to Kate as a "she" and it stuck.
Shelby's sister is unrelated to V or IPGD, who are two different people.
And last one, DaveKat is shit now because when two people in Homsetuck get in a relationship they become boring and lose their personality because the writers are hacks. DaveKat would have worked better as blackrom anyway.
No. 986651
>>985489Yeah, shes definitely not ipgd. ipgd looks different + is a lot mouthier than Shelby's boring sister. Not sure what she's up to these days since shes always renaming and locking accounts. It's easy to mix these people up since they all speak in exactly the same way and orbit each other.
>>984748Damn. So few followers and even fewer on twit lmao. Bet this girl thought she'd get a lot more attention for dating has-been Hussie.
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>>981639Wasn't he dating ipgd at some point?
She drew homestuck scat porn and wrote a "
problematic" stridercest rape fic but she was amazing in comparison.
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A story in 3 pictures
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Well, it was "fun" while it lasted! Kate posted this and then deleted it soon afterwards.
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Now that the dust is settling, Dani of ValiDate is speaking up, sort of. From the gist of her recent posts, she thinks transphobia is worse than racism. I'm not surprised, considering she has the creepiest obsession with white men and the entire crux of her hatred spawns from one man refusing to date her and like an incel she never recovered from it.
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>>995171Dani and people like her are a huge part of the problem, you are welcome to talk about her awful influence here.
Meanwhile, Kate's on her tranny nonsense again. Being trans is a choice.
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I didn't realize the patreon funding was for things other than HS2 and that the writers weren't dedicated to working on HS2 full time. That certainly explains the shitty pacing.
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>>991250She's gone for good. She posted this a few days ago.
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>>996798And she's now listed under 'directors emeritus' on the credits page.
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Kate, the massive communist larper, got banned from the communism reddit page.
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This is so brave, being a woman means having long hair.
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>>1004096Absolutely fascinating to see someone gassing themselves up on God I'm Such A Fucking Revolutionary Unlike These Soft Lib Babies fumes…………..and it's all about fucking Homestuck fandom. Like goddamn, the tenor of this is someone rallying their fellow sweatshop laborers but the content is a fucking dead-end webcomic fandom. "I'm tired of coddling these mother fuckers and trying to gently herd them into not being bigots" is like, someone talking about their work with
abusive husbands or getting new laws about voter suppression on the books. I know commie larping isn't exactly unheard of among lefty trans geek dude twitter, but jesus, at least most of them pretend to not be pouring their energies into…..yelling at girls for liking fictional alien kids the wrong way
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>>1004639Hussie went out into the world and hid some toblerones, whoever found them could make some wish or some stupid ass shit and it'd be canon. One person said they wanted John to be trans (and named June because Vriska calls him June at some point in the original comic), so Hussie declared it canon.
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>>1005622Trans-misogyny is a meme.
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A friend who doesn't pay attention to drama linked to a bunch of leaked emails between Hussie and Makin.
https://t.co/3w1r75r1k5?amp=1I don't have the context to figure it out but Hussie calling anybody tone deaf while keeping Kate employed is rich.
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>>1008882Man, Drew's rambling walls of text. At first Hussie sounded pretty reasonable for most of the exchange, even though he never should have hired reactionary shitters like Kate to begin with.
>drew posts on reddit, gloating about Kate being FORBIDDEN from posting about them EVAR AGAIN!!Holy shit dude they can NOT stop being lolcows.
>Hussie asks about gender makeup of mod team after they pursued a formal complaint against Katefucking… what
>Wall of text from Huss about how Kate's rant was good actually and asking people's genders was totally normal behaviorwell, ok lol. he really doesn't see why this is offensive as shit.
Wow what a wild ride. Looking forward to Post-Kate HS^2 regardles.
No. 1009616
>>1008882Honestly? Kudos to Phoebe, everybody else sounds like a stark raving lunatic. Drew and Makin have a strange borderline-
abusive bromance and I don't know what Hussie was smoking to make him want to hire these crazy trannies in the first place.
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The troon cabal has finally found the thread! I guess Kyle and the Violent Manjaw are boyfriends.
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>>1012806This kind of stuff is so pathetic, either he was actively searching what where people saying about kate or he knows ppl that browse here.
Outside of circle jerking about their narrative genius do they have an actual job or do they live throuhg e-begging?
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I think this puts the number of people Kyle is in a relationship with at three. He's dating two female enbies as well, but they don't seem as involved.
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More words of wisdom from Kyle "I Don't Care About Homestuck Any More" Mitchell.
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What the fuck did he mean by this?
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Haha, not even fictional women are allowed to have hobbies without it being a sign of trannydom.
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Abraxas steals art and then claims it was because of transphobia. His simps then start railing on a rando because they referred to Kate as a woman. Is it transmisogyny to call a trans woman a woman? Make up your minds already!
No. 1020529
>>1017999>the manHOLY SHIT TERF!!!!!!!!!!! block and stay safe!!!!!!!!!!! eat shit!!!!
>the womannice transmisogyny dipstick
how do you even win with these inbreds?
No. 1023341
>>1022661I haven’t been into Homestuck since long before it ended, but holy shit this dude is still around? I’ve only met him once, but what an absolute cow.
He was a friend of a friend and when I met him he expected me to know him. As soon as he figured out I had no idea who the fuck he was, he tried to ice me out of conversation despite there only being like 5 of us total. He went on to later tell us about his wife(?) who he “couldn’t” divorce because her dad was Russian mafia and threatened to kill him or something. He spent that same weekend trying to fuck my 16yo acquaintance too.
Sorry, had to spill since somehow this dipshit has stayed in my long term memory for whatever reason.
No. 1023664
>>1023506Yeah I was under the same impression. Not that you can’t be gay and also been previously unhappily married.
I’m curious to know how James has been misogynistic, though. I haven’t followed him for years and I do remember him acting like a cow by constantly getting drunk and whining about private business and shit talking others.
No. 1023675
>>1023506He's bisexual, not gay.
He is a whiny piece of shit that is incredibly rude if you try to interact with him. Be just a tad casual? He'll shittalk you to your face. Be normal? He'll take it in the worst possible way and also shittalk you. You'll notice that most of his replies are people walking on eggshells and acting so ridiculously polite it's cringe. He definitely comes across as thinking he's a fucking god.
No. 1023716
>>1020529I bet they would have complained if the guy said "person," or "trans woman," too. Any excuse to bully a fourteen year old whose art you stole. God I'm so glad I'm not part of this community anymore.
>>1023286I can't believe people are still caping for DaveJade after all these years. You guys really don't know when to take the L and just enjoy something as fanfic, do you?
No. 1023782
>>1023716Homestuck : The fandom where people REALLY care which characters you imagine fucking.
I still haven't finished the epilogue. It was hot flaming garbage. Hussie has needed a manager for ten years, he lets these kids walk all over him.
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>>1023716It's a stand out because it was never really "shut down" super hard until Davekat came along at the end of the comic, and it's the favorite of redditors that self insert into Dave and want a MPDG. It's the only one they're still REEEEEE'ing over years later, even if the epilogues shat all over it! Pic related
No. 1024112
>>1024079Seems that's all they care about, even the epilogue feels like an a easy way to maintain their presence and profit from it, which I hope I'm wrong because it would been infinitely easier to present parallel stories( or previous ones) like hiveswap and friendsim.
It doesn't help that homestuck fandom spaces are mostly cesspools where shipping is seen as
valid activism. I wonder how long can hussie milk this…
No. 1024480
>>1024112Shipping as activism? Woow.
Early in the comic, Huss contacted young artists and got them to sign contracts to work for him for barely any pay. It's karma that now he's getting taken advantage of by having kids wreck his story with their shipping fanfiction. He dug his own grave. Homestuck should have ended when the comic ended. He clearly doesn't care about it anymore and they're just beating money out of a dead horse.
No. 1028942
This week's non-robo Dave dialogue was not very good, felt stilted once again so the previous upd8's robodave hope has faded a little. I feel like the writer was not the same person. I don't mind the "character growth" parts
(i.e. how he is very frank about his feelings instead of hiding behind too many layers of irony) but the speech patterns did not feel natural, this Dave reminded me of the epilogue Daves in the writing. It's hard to explain but maybe I'll make a comparison doc between all the works sometime. Karkat also seemed to speak out of character, the voice wasn't right. Whoever this upd8's writer was, I feel like they write characters in their own voice and don't pay attention to a character's unique speech patterns and vocabularies. There were some Pesterquest moments that sounded a lot like this upd8.
>>1024079Rosemary was such a nice ship until the retjohn. It has not been the same since, such a shame. Add the extremely unpleasant garbage they added in the epilogue and beyond… It's a complete trainwreck and I feel bad for Rose fans.
No. 1029897
>>1029505Well first of all back in canonland, retjohn caused Vriska to be the reason Rose's alcoholism was fixed instead of her relationship with Kanaya making a difference.
Then dog dick Jade happened as you said, which Kanaya was for some reason okay with so now we have cuck Kanaya.
And THEN, Dirk
tricks Rose who is going through a slow death because her human body is breaking down due to her slowly becoming her Ultimate Self (some metabullshit they've been pushing for a long time even in the original) into running away with him, leaving kanaya behind. Dirk and Rose end up on a spaceship and her consciousness is transferred into a robot body that can support her Ultimate Self so Rosemary is officially split up with Rose leaving Kanaya.
No. 1030075
>>1029913One of the annoying parts of Jade/Rose is that they didn't need to even fuck for Rose to be a surrogate mother to Jade's baby. Jade has space powers. She could have moved her (gag) dog sperm into Rose with her space powers instead of having sex with her. They specifically made Rose secretly cheat on Kanaya for a stupid reason.
Davekat meanwhile is extremely canon and nothing can split them up. There is a timeline where Jade and Dave get together and Dave is miserable because Jade isn't Right For Him, he just loves Karkat too much. Barf, they even gave Jade a penis and that wasn't enough for the fagworshippers, her marriage to Dave has to fail because she isn't male enough.
No. 1030477
>>1024079The comic teased stuff like that earlier in its run that plebbiters prefer to remember. The whole reason Karkat trolled John backwards in the first place was because he was embarrassed about making a blackrom advance on John and getting shot down. Also, Kanaya had a one-sided thing for Vriska and Gamzee hit on Tavros. It was established pretty early on that trolls are basically a bisexual species.
As for the main characters, there were gay jokes and Freudian slips with Dave's character from the word go. I think it actually makes sense to have him be bisexual. I say all this as someone who was honestly expecting him and Terezi to be endgame. That said, Karkat and Dave makes a little more sense than people give it credit for. In the pre-retcon timeline, Karkat and Dave had become friends by the end of the three-year journey. The only reason they ever disliked each other to begin with was because of their shared interest in Terezi. Remove her romantic interest in either of them from the equation, and they'd hit it off just fine. I'm not sure that would automatically equal romantic relationship, but I can buy that they'd be close.
The dancestors are more egregious pandering in my opinion. They're all extremely cringey two dimensional characters introduced simply because the original trolls were so popular.
I think we can all agree everything after the credits was a giant trashfire that doesn't warrant existing, though.
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>>1023341>>1023675Here's James being creepy, controlling, and disrespectful to his own family.
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>>1032085Context for this
No. 1157342
>>1157340Thing is the game also just doesn't seem to be that good?
4-5 hours of gameplay in Act 2 is not a lot. I remember a lot of people hoping the next Acts after 1 would be longer and flesh everything out a bit more, but also I've seen reviews say that it's pretty obvious they had to prolong the second half of the game just to drag it out to 4-5 hours of gameplay.
No. 1157539
>>1157342The game is pretty meh at best.
It kinda feels like more of a visual novel rather than an actual point n click. The only real minigame (the trial) is kinda shitty too. Also homestuck^2 is probably going to be cancelled.
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I'm surprised this hasn't come up yet but Sarah Z did a huge video on Homestuck, a video about the series/fandom/history as a whole. It's brought up some controversy around the Hiveswap stuff, but she generated this response to what she said about Homestuck 2 in her video.
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Kate is seething about the Sarah Z video. Even though she was charitable enough to exclude any of Kate's fuck up and actual controversies from the vid, Kate is out here with the rape and death threats
https://shrike.club/@kate/106059208700131493 No. 1208456
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Also Sarah Z is getting legal threats from whom people assume to be WP
No. 1209059
>>1208451Sarah Z has a whole section in the video talking about how "If you're problem with homestuck 2 is trans rep then you can fuck off"
they're not going to watch the video but you couldn't get any more charitable then that
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>>1209072>>1209059>>1208451Proving how immature the people working on the homestuck team are once again. They even had a disclaimer to send complaints to her trans co-writer and not Sarah. Overall Sarah had fairly soft and neutral stance in the video talking about focusing the property of homestuck and not the crazy/stupid things the people working on it have done.
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FUCK HOMESTUCK I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU OR THIS SHIT AT ALL… lemme post a lil more about it completely unprompted though so i can say my piece ;)
No. 1209643
>>1209137>>1209384I can't believe the email chain between Andrew and the Reddit admin is what tanked the patreon and ultimately ended Homestuck^2. What a glorious trash fire.
Here's some extra reading for extra credit.
https://ot3.tumblr.com/post/648393677506592768/ No. 1210845
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Welp. Andrew Hussie is trooning out.
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>>1210854>>1210855>>1210885Well in his recent VN Psycholonials he came out as clown gender.
No. 1210895
>>1210890what am I fucking looking at this is jokes right?
right?
No. 1210900
>>1210895Get your autism levels checked
>>1210890>Clowngender and horsegender>the insane graph>D-ClussieIf it's real that'd only make it more amazing
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kinda unrelated but in the statement it keeps saying they instead he/him. is he non-binary or something?
No. 1213982
>>1213832More details? Source? Who wrote this? It's possible the author, like us, doesn't know what to make of hussie's behavior. I genuinely think he is not serious though. In the posts wearing that outfit he is playing basketball and posing cartoonishly. Not to mention the BTS faces on his clothes. No, it's 100% a joke in my view and it's his "clownsona." His new story's characters are women who have clownsonas with "clown genders" iirc, and the thing's jam-packed with mocking references to online culture like callouts, being cancelled, simps, BTS stan fanfiction, all of it. It reads like he is messing around with it all, seeing what he can make that's relevant to today's internet. When he was making jade a furry and caliborn draw fanart, he was being ironic for laughs and this is something similar. Just my two cents though. Unfortunately these days, it's hard to tell if anyone is joking when they act insane, but I bet he is banking on that.
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>>1268543Gio (@giovan_h on twitter) uploaded an blog post about this, a lot of recap of the video with some of his own insight with his research and the stalker allegatiom from Aysha. Sarah talked with more ex WP employees than he did.
https://blog.giovanh.com/blog/2021/06/30/the-sarah-z-video-fallout/ No. 1268721
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>>1268720I didn't pay attention and catch Cindy Dominguez's name and role before so learning she's been around as executive producer and the figure who sent the stupid emails/is current CEO makes a lot of sense.
No. 1269518
>>1268543Hussie's idea of damage control has always been condescending but this is a new low. I'm glad Sarah didn't take their shit, especially with that tone.
Also what kinda retarded company acts like former employees are crazy exes? That is not how any of that should work lol.
No. 1271830
>>1269359Most funny part, is that he, for whatever reason, instantly believes everything he hears from his friends. It is this time and the reddit email chain one: he is like "yeah, I don't know anything but my friends are upset and claim to be bullied, so here am I"
Why
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>>1213832>is he non-binary or something?he is
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>>1355308hehehe lulz
:-)
:-D
:*)
:P
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 1355687
>>1355637>>1355676Supposedly, he wrote the story outline. The problem is that Andrew's always been terrible at writing a cohesive plot. He's much better at character writing and comedy, so it's bizarre to me that he chose to do the thing he sucks at and outsourced the thing he excelled at.
The cluttered mess of a plot worked for Problem Sleuth because it meshed well with the humor. In a more serious story like Homestuck, it was
problematic because the pacing was inconsistent and confusing. Homestuck is like three different graphic novels worth of ideas crammed into one story, which is probably why it took Andrew so long to move on– he wasted all his best ideas on Homestuck. He should have transitioned to a new project years ago. His buddy Ryan North writes for
Marvel, and all he got famous for was Dinosaur Comics. Imagine what Andrew could have done with his career if he moved on after the credits, back when Homestuck generally still had good will.
People read Homestuck for the characters, full stop. As much of an overstuffed mess the story was, it has some really funny, memorable, well-written teenage characters (along with some shitty tertiary ones no one likes.) The second the characters started being written by people with ulterior motives (hatred of fans in V's case, narcissistic wish fulfilment in "Kate's", etc) they lost their charm. Frankly, the sequel deserves to lose its funding and get discontinued. You can't just strip away everything people liked about the original and expect people to buy into it based on the IP alone.
No. 1355695
>>1355692Personally in
my opinion, you should sage your autism.
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>>1355308I feel like whatever insanity Hussie is up to right now is a result of clown world mentality (which as you can see he's embraced). Not to excuse his faults but imagine being the guy who spawned the Homestuck fandom. You pour yourself into creating an entire super long webcomic only for it to serve as a(n internet) cultural atomic bomb. I would either lose my mind to cope, or start acting like a full blown clown since that's what they made of me anyway. Whatever he subsequently creates is going to draw those same kinds of people so he's just leaning into it. Hussie has embraced clown world, that's my thesis.
>>1355637This is the cherry on top, and its awfulness is precisely why he gave it his blessing imo. They have fucking destroyed Homestuck but it was already destroyed. I admit this is all speculation but how can these events be anything but a big laugh for him? Everything has been peak farce. Look at this man, he's chosen to just go with it.
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>>1506135This post is so dramatic
Hussie is just shitposting again like he has always done.
>>1210845Seems like he deleted these pics. But I still wonder what he’s up to these days?
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I'm expanding this thread to include general fandom drama and lolcows. Pic related, old post but it's new milk to me.(new milk to you is not new milk, sage your shit)
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>>1785716Valerie is already known to be insane, but Xamag coercing a minor to draw porn is also wildly disgusting.
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kek
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>>1825522There was a Homestuck related "event" at a coffee shop last month where an "official height chart" for all the characters was revealed. The artist was Asian and drew them "too short" (I'm mid 20's and 60 inches tall, which I thought was completely average) and vaguely Asian looking for the Godfeels enjoyers. The hulking trannoid who fucks K8 is mad because he's fat, ugly, racist, and irrelevant.
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>>1819696God, this tranny is so fucking annoying. Vriska isn't a tranny no matter how much he shouts about it on twitter. I'm glad female Vriska cosplayers make his ass seethe.
>>1826594>>1826595>>1826597Short or not they all look really cute. Tranny is ass blasted over nothing as per usual
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>>1831235I remember her Tumblr blogposts where she just utterly idolizes Hussie. In retrospect, it was creepy as fuck how utterly obsessed she was with this man and it was clear as day she had a massive crush on him.
>>1830214For sure she was a bit of a lolcow. Her massive Stridercest fanfic was apparently based off her emotionally
abusive relationship with her late mother. Plus, there was her whole fixation on animal genitalia as a source of "humor" to the point where she even made them the focus of an art school assignment and blogged about that. I also remember the meltdown she had over HS fans speculating on the Homestuck staff's personal lives.
She also to this day has an old /ic/ anon, now /co/ schizo creep who is still obsessed with her known as guy a.k.a. manlyburger. I guess it’s understandable why she's dropped off the face of the Earth because of stuff like this but her cowish behavior attracted crazies.
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So this is probably really old news but it's recently been revealed by a Homestuck^2 writer that all the post-Homestuck stuff was done just to repay debts owed to Viz.
https://archive.is/khxei No. 1831854
>>1831811On the one hand, I feel kind of bad for these folks. He really did hand them a smoldering pile of garbage and say, "make this profitable, and appease all the people I pissed off without retconning any of the things that pissed them off. Also, follow my shitty outline that is somehow even worse." I'm not sure even a really talented veteran writer could make something good out of that, let alone the group of random Twitter autists Andrew dug up for the project.
Andrew totally shat up his own story with the epilogues, which he's quick to say were written by other people, but the reality is that he wrote the outline and approved everything, and I'm willing to bet some of the worst ideas were his. This is the same guy who wrote about 16-year-old Jake Harley seducing a then-in-his-thirties Laurel or Hardy (don't remember which, don't care to look it up.) After Homestuck ended, Andrew's writing abilities were totally shot for several years, basically because he disappeared up his own ass and got irony poisoning while retards like V and ipgd enabled him. I'm glad the epilogues and sequel went down in flames, it's what Andrew deserves for his hubris. Psycholonials seems to indicate that it impacted him in some way, and the writing is those games is less shit than the epilogues, so there's that.
No. 1832910
>>1832325it wasn't really retconned because it was never canon in the first place.
And no it isn't cancelled.
Nevermind that second part yes it is 100% genuinely cancelled the only reason Hussie didn't officially say it's cancelled is because he doesn't like taking criticism and will never admit he made a mistake.
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>>1831235This is not speculation at this point just facts also on that schizo stalker of hers I personally asked him about the whole ipgd = ctset =vfromhomestuck theory do you all think he's telling the truth?
No. 1832946
>>1832301I think it's a little bit of both. Again, V and CephiedVariable wrote the epilogues; Hussie just gave them his outline and oversaw the work, with the exception of a few scenes he wrote himself. Hussie's writing was declining in quality even towards the end of Homestuck. While there's still some good stuff later on (Roxy's character arc and the interaction with Dirk and Dave spring to mind) it's buried in awful stuff, like the Dancestors, trickster mode, Jasprosesprite, etc.
Psycholonials is his first attempt post-Homestuck to write something in earnest, and it's still just not as good as Problem Sleuth or the first half of Homestuck. It's not as shit as the epilogues, but that's a pretty low bar to clear. The epilogues are a mix of awful on purpose (dog dick nympho Jade, Jake shitting his pants, Jane being a fascist, Roxy trooning out) and awful on accident (Dirk has no clear character motivation, the tone is all over the place, continuity errors everywhere, the change of medium being a terrible choice, irony poisoning.) I think it's terrible in part because Hussie didn't have very much feedback while he was writing it; it was just him and two of his biggest ass-kissers. Because Homestuck proper was partially written on the fly, Hussie could actually see fandom feedback and integrate fans' ideas into the story. That was a big part of Homestuck in the beginning, hence the command prompt. Fans named the original four kids and twelve trolls, lest we forget. Without outside input, Hussie disappears up his own ass in a haze of pretention. Also choosing to make the epilogues a novel instead of a comic was a terrible choice made entirely so they could shit it out faster with less effort. Homestuck was tailored to the medium of webcomics specifically. It's like if someone tried to make a sequel to Citizen Kane in some medium other than film. Medium matters, and while Homestuck is wordier than most comics by a wide margin, it still relies on its visuals and sound to communicate the story, characters, and humor effectively. The epilogues are truly just Hussie playing himself– he wanted to say "fuck you," to fans, but all he ended up doing was putting his own company in debt.
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>>1832929>funny that they said they were going to continue working on it in private kek.Who is "they", I'm pretty sure every person who worked on it quit by the time they announced that it was pure cope.
>I wonder if this is the real end of homestuck as a webcomic or will they try and do another reboot in a 5-10 years for more money.Andrew Hussie left (pic related)
Snake solutions the studio responsible for homestuck^2 shut down years ago
https://hawkhighlights.net/10472/uncategorized/snake-solutions-the-studio-behind-homestuck2-has-reportedly-shut-down/Whatpumpkin is dead and out of business
https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/168138-91Combine all this with the recent news that Andrew bussie is balls deep in debt and you have the ultimate proof that Homestuck is dead at last, and all that remains is nostalgia and sad decade-past memories.
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i'm just sad that homestuck as an ip couldn't age gracefully. the og comic is still fun and whimsical but the fandom which surrounds it is a cesspit of troonism and shit like picrel. they have no sense of fun or humor. here's the entire post:
https://burn-the-retcon.tumblr.com/post/718129089588887552/more-reminders No. 1832961
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>>1832953Closest I can find. Wish I can find an actual archived link to the entirety of the Google Doc. I guess I misremembered details since the actual v account didn't seem to have confessed to it but ipgd came out of nowhere after years of inactivity to post this when the accusations started flying that v is the writer of the Stridercest fics.
No. 1832970
>>1832961Lol I knew about this way back I was just wondering if the actual @vfromhomestuck account confessed to it
>Wish I can find an actual archived link to the entirety of the Google DocHere you go
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1UOIg1v7Ut1lmI0pyWbrNhQAUa_vRz1vbeyszEk310xQ/mobilebasic No. 1833022
>>1832955>Gamzee is intended to be a satirization of black peopleHow did this person manage to read Homestuck without learning what a Juggalo is, or that it's a real subculture consisting mostly of white people?
Incredibly, I was looking at the notes, and someone else already pointed this out to the OP, whose response was
>ICP might be white, but rap is a black genre>Gamzee has an absentee father and messy hair>Gamzee hits on a bunch of female characters who I've arbitrarily decided are coded white.Absolutely braindead. I'll post a screencap later, I'm phonefagging right now and I can't.
No. 1833025
>>1833001Even as a fujo I never understood the hype for Stridercest (which was
very popular in 2012.) Even now I mostly just chalk it up to horny teenage autists enabling each other's weird behavior in fandom spaces.
No. 1833061
>>1832915Ugh I'm the post you're replying to so I hope this doesn't out me, BUT
They are the same person. My roommate is "the little bird" who used to be IPGDs roommate as well.
No. 1833143
>>1833022"sexually predatory behaviour towards white-coded women and children" this sounds like something you'd see on a sjw parody account. I almost don't believe it but I can't imagine being bored enough to make a troll blog about homestuck in 2023..
>>1832950>Andrew bussie is balls deep in debtHe really screwed the pooch. Sad!
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>>1833581in 2017 there was some kind of autistic conspiracy surrounding the /co/ Homestuck threads and the Hussie gang. Apparently, this weird spergy Tumblry post
https://archive.is/FT5BG#selection-13.25-17.1I can't confirm it and I also don't know if ipgd is involved take it how you wil.
>I remember she pretty much got into Hussie's circle by being friends with Rachel Really I thought she only got in because she sent him pic related? Enlighten me if I'm wrong
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>>1833644The gift box established contact between them but she kept buttering up to Rachel after that. She drew fanart of her characters (pic related, Rachel's character Kitten Legs drawn by IPGD) and constantly engaged with her on Tumblr when Rachel would typically spurn contact from other fans. She slowly distanced herself from /hsg/ during that time until I assume she got into Hussie's private circle when she moved from Florida to the east coast where he resides. This was all years ago so I'm just basing this off my own impression of events.
No. 1833720
>>1833701What the fuck, wasn't Andrew in his thirties at the time? Fucking sicko, dating teenagers half his age.
So this is why Shelby basically got her own self-insert character (Calliope) in the comic? She just groomed her sister into dating Hussie? Good lord. Imagine pawning your underage sister off on a guy twice her age so you can cash in on his internet fame.
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>>1833730Isn't Shelby's sister a Vriska cosplayer too? IIRC, she cosplayed as fairy Vriska here.
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>>1833756Pic for comparison.
No. 1833873
>>1833844Yes
>>1833847Okay, not every single strider yaoi incest fan trooned out… But I'd be flat out lying if I said a portion of them didn't troon out because of that. Incest fans are usually retarded, anyway.
No. 1834186
>>18340551.he is extremely talented.
2.he's a professional and only let's talented game developers work with him or he just works by himself.
3.he completely ignores his cancerous fandom.
4.He is humble
5.he's not retarded and actually listens to criticism.
No. 1834286
>>1833701>>1833644Reading this was definitely interesting… I used to be a part of the /hsg/ Skype group (hopefully won't doxx myself too hard here), and I remember halftruth joining it in her crusade to shut down 4chan, and ending up gaining some friends there when she realised most of us were relatively normal at least.
It's really sad to see how much she suffered. Even though I found her a bit obnoxious and it's clear she is still mentally unwell, I don't think she deserved this, I hope she's doing better these days.