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No. 30600

A thread for all of us nonnas who were delusional enough to fall for the gendie propaganda and want to talk about it in a personal way. Talk about the funny, the infuriating, the lousy, the mock worthy, the chunnibyo, etc. Examples included but not limited to:
>Characters you wanted to look like or act like
>Pinterest / Tumblr induced ""gender euphoria""
>Bad friends or friend groups pushing you to transition
>Internalized misogyny, nlog-ism, pickmeism, etc
>Cringe haircuts and fashion choices
>Nonbinary, agender, demi-boy/girl and other gendie ideology crap
>Retarded labels and pronouns
>Things you regret looking back on it
>Why and how did you peak
For a more serious discussion about detransitioning, use the following thread thread:
>>>/g/230474

No. 30601

I feel like this is kind of a duplicate thread and isn't distinguished enough from the one on /g/

No. 30602

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>be me
>be depressed due to personal life circumstances
>read all of tokyo ghoul
>"Omfg I want to be kaneki"
>cuts hair short and boyish and wears binder
>eventually falls out of love with the manga and genderism, sells the volumes to a classmate
>classmate suddenly becomes gendie
>classmate gets female and male symbol tattoos on her wrists because she's committed to the cause
>mfw not sure if I caused this to happen

In all seriousness though why do gendies love kaneki?

No. 30603

>>30601
This one is about the cringe and funny moments, that one is about detransitioning and the serious effects of taking hormones. Not all gendies transition anyway

No. 30604

i never fully identified as a tim but i had a phase back in like 2017 when I was a kpopfag and wanted to be like a kpop boy and gave myself a jimin haircut in college. but i was fat so i ended up looking like an auntie instead. i don’t regret it though, it made me discover my love for short hair.

No. 30605

if you ever fell for this shit, you're extremely mentally ill(baiting)

No. 30606

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Post characters that made you want to transition

No. 30607

>>30605
I really don't get posts like these. It always comes off as some anon high on her own farts that wants to play victim blame game.

No. 30608

>>30604
I hope you meant tif and not tim

No. 30609

>>30607
>muh "victim blaming"
shut the fuck up you whiny mentally ill detrooner. it's not my fault you cut your fucking tits off because you are so stupid you once thought you could become a man(baiting/infighting)

No. 30610

>>30605
I agree. Having this thread is basically enabling their degeneracy, there was something wrong in the milk if they honestly fell for their shit to begin with and even if they detransition you can tell there’s absolutely something wrong with them where you want to stay away from them, they’re gross as fuck and brimming with instability they still haven’t solved to make them a proper member of society

No. 30611

I think the extremely hilarious thing is that I was the exact opposite of the fujo-to-tif pipeline. Was fujo in middle school and a non-gendie normal girl. Start highschool, suddenly in yurifag phase and troon for some reason. Graduate HS, back to fujo and untroon and learn about radfeminism.

No. 30612

>>30600
I wanted to be a jock so bad, I got a buzzcut and started wearing my older sibling's letterman jacket to school. I wasn't even in sports. Anyway, I never got far because the pandemic happened and my intrusive thoughts about wanting to mutilate myself stopped.

No. 30613

>>30608
yes, autocorrect. lol

No. 30614

>>30605
i mean it should be obvious. atleast anons have the insight of getting better from it now

No. 30615

>>30605 this much is certain

No. 30616

>>30600
>thread pic
I miss when fangirls were confident enough to admit 2D is "sexy", rather than the autism behind calling things "gender". His body proportions are definitely male, a man that actually puts in effort is gonna look more like this than a TIF.

>>30602
>why do gendies love kaneki?
Tbh it reads to me exactly the same reason why TIMs troon out because of yuri; they're attracted to a fictional character type that doesn't exist in real life and offers a moment of escapism for the harsh reality of sexism and the way society looks at the sexes. For TIMs, it's because women IRL aren't vapid morons with zero social nuance that men can relate to/traits that anime girls have that draw in low value males. For TIFs, it's twinks, feminine men, and men who are open about their feelings, because too many scrotes are severely lacking in them/assume they're women and should troon out if they feel any less than macho emotion at all. It leads some TIFs to want to be the men that actual men are failing to be for us because they're on about trying to "become women" instead of trying to be better men.

>>30606
I'm very thankful that puberty made it impossible for me to even consider the TIF route, and a lot of "TIF" characters are just pretty boys I would kiss if they were real.

No. 30617

>>30609
Girl I'm not even a trooner, it's just not everyone has to bully women all the time to feel something.

No. 30618

>>30617
It's probably some summer retard that discovered lolcow from a tiktok video and now wants to enact their very own mean girl charade, don't even reply to their bait.

No. 30619

>>30618
You're right, thanks for catching me slipping

No. 30620

>>30611
once i got out of my fujo phase i never went back but actually a lot of TIFs i followed on social media preferred yuri to yaoi once they trooned out, i guess because it offered something "different" and ive noticed a weird trend in TIMs preferring yaoi now too

No. 30621

>>30600
Thread locked due to infighting in 3…2…1 lol.

No. 30622

>>30620
> ive noticed a weird trend in TIMs preferring yaoi now too
i have literally never seen this unless you mean trapshit, which isnt yaoi

No. 30623

>>30620
>I've noticed a weird trend in TIMs preferring yaoi now too
I interpret this as they think since women are known to like yaoi they'll just pick up up to LARP as us or something. Like they think being a fujo makes you more womanly or something.

No. 30624

>>30620
> ive noticed a weird trend in TIMs preferring yaoi now too
they only pretend to like it to larp or groom girls and women since its a well known women hobby, and most are fags into bara NOT bl

No. 30625

>>30602
I don't know. Babby's first sensitive manga boy? The (relatable) crawling in my skin/self-harm factor?

No. 30626

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>>30602
i never understood why tifs liked crybaby kaneki and this fagtard, is it edgyness or is it just misplaced attraction?

No. 30627

>>30620
Ayrt, I was mostly bringing it up because it was a funny coincidence for me because my TIF phase was a result of body dysmorphia and trying to fit in with gendie friends rather than having a sexual insecurity. My shipping preferences and troon arc were basically independent events that overlapped chronologically in a funny way. Speaking of, has anyone else done some introspective analysis and figured out why they fell for the koolaid in the first place?

No. 30628

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>>30626
It's interesting because Mutsuki, the canon tif, is right there

No. 30629

>>30627
>Speaking of, has anyone else done some introspective analysis and figured out why they fell for the koolaid in the first place?
For me it was a combination of chunnibyo like the OP says and living in a macho society

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>>30605
>i'm the smartest person in the room heh… that'll show em…
no way, seriously ? don't think anyone would have guessed without your help.
>inb4 triggered, i've never been been anywhere remotely close to tiffing out

No. 30631

>>30627
My parents are homophobes and while I'm bisexual, at the time, I had a huge crush on a girl and I subconsciously at the time thought they'd accept me if I was a tif. Of course, my parents are also massive troon haters so I'm not sure why my brain was so retarded. Consequences of not having a fully developed brain I suppose. Also probably societal issues with women being seen as less than dogshit if they stray from the norm.

No. 30632

>>30627
a combination of growing up in a religious sexist jihadfag community and my lack of interest in performing femininity

No. 30633

>>30624
>>30623
>>30622
I've definitely seen it. Back when I was younger, there were always a few comments by males on bl doujins if there were any tags involving anything related to crossdressing. I don't think they're doing this as a genius ploy to groom tifs, I think these were moids into "femboys" that stumbled on yaoi on their hentai sites

No. 30634

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>>30600
>characters you wanted to look like or act like

No. 30635

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I think a few years back when I realized I wasn’t a tif was one of the most cathartic experiences of my life and I’ll never forget it. I realized I was just a gender non conforming girl and that’s perfectly fine. The fact doesn’t make me a male, it makes me, me.

No. 30636

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i remember wishing my body was more androgynous as a teen and thinking this must mean i might be nonbinary. i didn't go full-on gendie because i
>a) did some soul-searching and realised what i felt wasn't gender dysphoria
i didn't hate my body and its sex characteristics. i actually liked the way it looked. i just hated the unwanted sexually charged attention my female body brought me and
>b) had more importand things to do instead of getting fixated on my identity and how people percieve me

even though i didn't fall down the gendie rabbit hole myself i was still very accepting of trannyism. it was easy to do so because i never interacted directly with trannies and their spaces and had an idealised view of them pushed onto me by intersectional feminist bloggers and influencers
>Things you regret looking back on it
i regret being openly libfem-leaning and leaving this impression on some women i used to be friends with. i don't like thinking that's how they remember me lol
>Why and how did you peak
i realised my acceptance of gendieism was based solely on emotions (be nice, accept people for who they are just because it's a good thing to do, not doing so is evil and bigoted) and decided to "listen to trans people" as they always say kek. as a result saw gender ideology for what it is and never looked back ever since

No. 30637

>>30635
>The fact doesn’t make me a male, it makes me, me.
so true nonnie. i'm happy for you

No. 30638

>>30600
i remember wanting to have a dick when i was like 12 but that was before trannyism was normalized. when i saw the result of srs i was like 'thats fucking gross' and snapped out of it kek

No. 30639

>>30636
pretty much went through a similar thing as you nona. thought i was "nb" for a while before realizing most of my motives for trooning out were peer pressure and hating other people's perception of my body. despite desisting i was still relatively troon positive until my run in with a TIM who was an narc and extreme sjw did i realize all trannies, specifically TIMs are the same. it was only then did I realize my only impression of 'trans people' were the TIFs i was acquainted with and ive never met a TIM outside of the constant shill of TWAW. actually seeing how they act and behave around women truly was eye opening.

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>>30610
This is the mentally ill bpdchan autist femcel website. if you want normies go back to facebook.
>>30627
Anyway, for me, it was being a tomboy. I've noticed there's two pipelines for the gendies that a lot of us ex-gendies fall into, and one is the one that has dysmorphia, or is discontent, or wants to fit in with friends, gets too much into yaoi… and the other where I fall into is someone who struggled to connect to female peers and was bombed with the message that she was "failing" at being a woman (kek) and transgenderism offered a very convenient explanation for that, especially as a black and white thinking autist. Oh well, if I don't "act like a woman", that must mean I am a man!… I was raised in a sexist conservative culture, am ESL, and got exposed to tumblr.

>>30600
>Characters you wanted to look like or act like
>Bad friends or friend groups pushing you to transition
it was fucking dave strider, embarrassingly enough. Though he came in late. I was so depressed I hardly ate, just mentally ill enough to believe in retardation like otherkin when the transgender explanation "made sense". Happened to have a brush with the homestucks and they enabled it. I had even picked a name and clinic to go to before I gave it up. I notice the want to be a man delusions spike whenever I'm depressed or smacked again with ~not acting womanly~. But I am now actually capable of stopping those thoughts for the most part.

No. 30641

>>30635
I'm very happy for you nonnie, it's one of the best feelings in the world.

No. 30642

>>30640
>this is the mentally ill bpdchan autist femcel website
>femcel
God I can't wait for summer to be over

No. 30643

>>30640
>this is the mentally ill bpdchan autist femcel website
LMAO if anything it's the stacy larper website, but going by zoomer lingo use of femcel, I guess that's the same thing.

No. 30644

>>30643
Femcels ain't real buddy

No. 30645

Kek did anyone have a phase where they got mad when you had a whole carousel of pronouns, but people would only use one set? I stopped hanging around in (online) queerio spaces because I would only ever get they/themmed, and I felt relieved when I would go somewhere normal and get called he or she (based on how they saw me, I never gave out pronouns in non-kweer spaces). I feel so dumb for it now, but it partially peaked me.

No. 30646

My retarded ass got into gendie crap at 11 and I seriously believed the whole genderfluid nonsense. Wooooooow, some days I like wearing dresses and somedays I like wearing pants and cutting my hair short. Totally means I'm half boy and half girl…so retarded. But I never wanted surgeries or even hormones, I was fine with a short haircut and buying clothes from the men's section, and I also liked my deep voice. Also, I come from a poor, religious, Asian family, so I couldn't afford that shit anyway. And I didn't want to change myself drastically because I didn't want my family to disown me. Weirdly enough, I didn't like trannies much. I thought they were too extreme with their stupid surgeries and how they wasted so much money on them. I didn't hate them because I wanted to be on the 'right side of history', and fit in with the rest of the lgbt gang but they just didn't sit well with me. In 2020 when the gendie shit boomed because of tiktok, I made friends with 2 tifs at school and I remember secretly judging them and thinking how pathetic and girly they were even though they called themselves men. I felt smug at the fact I was more masculine than them despite not even being a tif, and they also always told me how I gave them 'gender envy'. I actually hated other gendies, especially the they/them ones. I only went by either she/her or he/him pronouns. I tried to suppress the thoughts of course, because I didn't want to be cancelled kek. I dressed and acted like a roadman, so I hated the weeby, coloured hair, queer, neopronoun-using gendies. I remember thinking I was so much cooler than them KEK.
>Things you regret looking back on it
'Dated' one of the tifs I mentioned earlier. She asked me out and I pretended to like her back. I secretly hated her but she worshipped me and it felt goooood. I thought it was an easy way to get pussy. She'd always cry about no one ever seeing her as a man, despite me doing the exact same thing, secretly. In the end, I ended up ghosting her then breaking up with her because I was so embarassed to be seen with her, and talking to her gave me a headache because she'd always cry about her dumb tranny feelings and surgeries. Can't believe I ever 'dated' her. So embarassing, a stain on my life.
>Why and how did you peak
Found lc while looking for news on a cow. Lurked the whole site and peaked within a week. I guess it was easy because I was never too deep into it, and hated a lot of stuff about it.
>Characters you wanted to look like or act like
Kaneki from Tokyo Ghoul, the dude from Blue Exorcist, and any other edgy dark-haired anime dude, but as a roadman.

No. 30647

>>30634
The Black Butler always made me so confused. Gendies (the female ones) always make a huge fuss over the sexualization of high school girls in anime (based tbh) but this crap about a man diddling a 12 years old boy is totally fine.

No. 30648

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I'm too old to have become a TIF but in high school in the late 2000s/early 2010s my friends all had male OCs of themselves that they'd draw and write fanfic about. They'd have headcanons where two of their OCs were dating - like my two friends themselves were not dating and as far as I could tell didn't have any romantic/sexual tension between each other (despite one of them now being married to another woman), but their male OCs were. I started doing it too and spent practically all of 2010 daydreaming about what my life would have been like if I'd been born a guy. I daydreamed that all my problems with school, family, money etc. would go away because I figured if I had been a guy I'd be more responsible and able to take care of those problems. But the more I thought about it I realized that I'd have been a much different person if I had actually been born a guy: my friends, interests, crushes/dating, relationships with family and teachers, political and social beliefs were all pretty connected to my gender and I wasn't sure if I'd like the actual guy version of myself kek. After I moved out of my mom's place my life got a lot better and I slowly stopped daydreaming about my male OC. Daydreaming about being a guy was simply a cute escapist fantasy. I was glad I'd been born a girl.
Not really a former TIF experience but I wanted to add because gender exploration is nothing new.

No. 30649

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>>30646
>'Dated' one of the tifs I mentioned earlier
I like this paragraph a lot because you didn't censor yourself. Surely nonitas out there will judge you but if moids are allowed to think and do this, then women should be allowed to. I think that you're based and cool but you might be antisocial or something like this. Average women (even nonas here) arent usually brave enough to be this edgy kek.
picrel is just a twitter artist im currently autistically obsessed with

No. 30716

>>30646
bippie behavior all around tbh.

No. 30751

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I had been going by they/them online since about 13 after being constantly being annoyed by pedos when I disclosed my gender at 12. I realized by saying I was a guy or nothing at all people would treat me like a person. Honestly didn’t realize they/them was a gender thing until I was around 15, just thought of it as a way to further anonymity online.

I hated my body and myself. I hated my birth name for as long as I could remember and honestly I still do. I came out as non binary online as a way to recreate myself. Never came out to my family though because I couldn’t find a name I truly enjoyed and didn’t want to confuse ppl by changing it constantly.

Eventually peaked after being in a space with a bunch of gendies and coming to the realization it was all game of charades. I looked at these girls who I called he/him or they/them and realized I didn’t see them as that. I was pretending and they were pretending and it was a stupid ass game of make believe. It hurt being called by my birth name and pronouns when I wasn’t in that space and people weren’t playing into my delusions. It was all stupid and it felt pointless to keep up the charade.

Funniest thing is that my favorite name was the character I mained from a fucking supercell game. I wanted to be Bo the buff eagle man who shot arrows and threw land mines.

No. 30756

>Bad friends or friend groups pushing you to transition
The motherfucker who groomed me then transitioned and the friend I had that was a straight up AGP lol.
My dog in the fight is this: I will admit to this. I still go by my tif name. A bastardized version of it. It’s a common tif name but i really have grown to like and prefer the bastardized version. I have weird feelings about my actual name. I use it in legal/medical situations but outside of it i prefer the tif name. It’s a nickname. Thats all it is.
I was an isolated tomboy with health issues on top of the autism so internet was all I had. Just added to the dysfunction i was around. I was developing a gnarly ED when i took the gender pill. So clearly since i was a tomboy I had to be a boy. Couldn’t be a masculine woman. Not a butch. No tomboys allowed. Was on HRT for a while which was an awful idea considering I already had health issues. I only recently have slowly rolled out detrans-ing in the last 3 years. Sorta. No one has said anything or even batted an eye. Even my sisters who are hand maidens. Thank god. I still dress super tomboy like. I was literally the tomboy to confused tif pipeline.
>Why and how did you peak
The dude who convinced me to troon out and abused me transitioned. AGP friend. Aggressive AGPs trying to have sex with me. One even going as far as ranting to me about how TIFs are still women and expecting me to like him.

No. 31217

being one of the only poc out of a mostly all white school when I was 11-13 made me feel masculine and I they/themd out for a bit

No. 31259

I used to go by she/they and any pronouns for years but didn't consider myself nonbinary until 2021ish and then dropped that after a couple months kek. It was mostly because of my mom being traditional and nitpicking me for not being feminine enough. Plus "I don't internally feel like a woman therefore I must be nonbinary" retardation. I don't really know how I fell for it, even in my TRA days I recognized that disliking femininity =/= not being a woman but I guess all TIFs go through that cognitive dissonance even though they pretend they hate gender norms. I realized it was dumb afterwards because I started thinking to myself that most women don't consciously "feel" like women anyway. Quickly peaked from that after seeking out people with the same ideas and recognizing there was too much incoherency going on in trannyland.

No. 31505

I went by they/them when I was 15 or 16 and looking back it's definitely because of sexual assault and harassment and it's really depressing me. It wasn't because I wanted to be quirky or different, I just didn't feel like a normal girl in the slightest, nor did I feel like a boy, so third option, neither. Also they/them felt impersonal, like I wasn't actually referred to or perceived by the speaker, which felt comforting in a way. I remember not wanting to be physically touched, referred to, or even looked at, spiralling into shut-in schizoid territory.

No. 31823

I used to be agender he/him all that but I realized that I just didn't feel good enough to be a woman. I still feel broken but being a broken woman is something that is real and possible. You can be weird and a woman. Why do I have to be something else to be myself? Why it is inconceivable for someone like me, just as I am, to exist?

No. 31843

>>30600
Do yall also consider it gendie to be GNC?

No. 31844

>>31843
Because i dont know how anyone can care about being gnc. I hate femininity. I also just think transitioning is just an insult to women. Like why do i have to transition to do what i want to do? Femininity is hot garbage

No. 32876

>>31843
Caring about arbitrary imaginary rules of femininity is retarded. I don't hyperanalyze every aspect of my life to see if it conforms to some ever-changing idea of what women are supposed to be and I don't interact with anyone who does. If you unironically label yourself "GNC" you are mentally ill.

No. 32878

>>32876
>don't interact with anyone that does
there you go, because you don't have to

No. 33518

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It wasn't really a character that made me want to transition as much as pretty goth boys and an idealized version of Victorian dandy fashion. Valentin Perin was the main one because I was a huge Emilie Autumn fan. But also Daniel from Cinema Strange and Rozz Williams. A little of young Nivek Ogre and young Peter Murphy. Thankfully I never really transitioned other than calling myself "gender fluid" and telling people online that I was born male. This was the 2010s so I felt like transitioning was never going to make me truly male. In hindsight, I was completely right. If I had been a teen with those feelings now, I would have trooned out. In reality I needed therapy for my eating disorder and ptsd from classi think my adhd contributed to my obsession with yaoi and pretty, effeminate men. I remember I wanted to go by Avery kek

No. 33558

I have a question. Now that I've accepted that I, as a woman, just want to be "masculine" (or just neither "feminine" or "masculine", but a combination of both without having to worry about which is which), but also like men and women that are kinda like me in terms of femininity vs masculinity, does that mean I'm autoandrophilic or something?
Because I think certain "masculine" clothes are attractive when other people (male and female) wear them, for example, but I would also like to wear them because they look cool. Or am I just attracted to those people having good fashion sense? It's like wearing masculine clothes gives me what troons call "gender euphoria" but I'm afraid that it sometimes actually turns me on looking at myself in the mirror looking "handsome" based on what I find attractive. Or maybe I'm just so horny all the time that I'm giving sexual meaning to something I shouldn't consider sexual.
None of this means I hate being female, though. I'm perfectly comfortable as a woman, it's the external appearance that fascinates me so much. I think just going against gender norms is exciting to me, and sometimes it turns me on. Is that wrong? Do I have a cross-dressing fetish? Fuck, I don't know. But I know this isn't affecting my self-esteem or daily life, so it's probably harmless.

>>31844
>>31843
I think gendies believe GNC falls under the "queer" umbrella, but if you don't believe in that crap, there's nothing wrong with being GNC, it's not the same as being a tranny.
GNC simply means that you don't conform to the standards imposed upon your sex, but there isn't really a consensus on where the line is drawn between being gender conforming and non-conforming, because there's so many stereotypes you could be breaking. An otherwise hyperfeminine woman with short hair could be considered GNC by some. A tomboy that likes some girly things could be considered "not truly GNC". Where does gender conforming end and GNC begin? It's quite dumb. The more I think about it, the less clear the labels GNC and tomboy seem to be.

>>31844
>I hate femininity. I also just think transitioning is just an insult to women. Like why do i have to transition to do what i want to do? Femininity is hot garbage
You've got the right idea. I don't hate women or being a woman anymore, I've realized what I hate is the idea of femininity and how it is, by definition, tied to femaleness. Femininity was made up for us. Why do I have to use the word "masculine" to describe things that shouldn't have anything to do with having a penis? I like wearing "masculine" clothes but if I say it like this, people will inevitably think I'm trying to be a man. I also hate how doing some things that are considered feminine or having some feminine traits makes me think "is this alright?" as if it mattered. I wish our society didn't obsess so much with categorizing things as either masculine or feminine and just let people be.

>>33518
>Thankfully I never really transitioned other than calling myself "gender fluid" and telling people online that I was born male. This was the 2010s so I felt like transitioning was never going to make me truly male.
Me too. Calling myself genderfluid was as far as I went, except when I really wanted to be a boy because of all the yaoi porn I consumed. It's not that I hated being female, I just really wanted to have a penis to penetrate men with. But I went to therapy because of this, and it really helped me realize that I don't have to be male to be able to be a "seme". Especially if all the sex I have is in my head, kek (I don't mind at all).
Also, I was worried that no moid would want an unfeminine gal such as myself, and that I'd never find an appropriately unmasculine straight guy. I was wrong. Although I'm still not comfortable with the fact that moids will always be attracted to me because of my "feminine" features that can't be hidden (when a boyfriend complimented my ass I found it repulsive), so I don't like dating anymore.

No. 33569

>>33558
>does that mean I'm autoandrophilic or something?
Honestly I think the issue is trying to find the label. I get wanting to understand yourself but the label doesn’t matter. it sounds like you know who you are already. I’m also too lazy to look up autoandrophilic

No. 33639

>>33558
Babe you’re bisexual it’s fine

No. 33924

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>cringe haircuts and fashion choices
I don’t know the character in picrel, but he has the exact same haircut as I did for like 3ish years. I used to genuinely comb my fringe into that shape and force it to stay like that to imitate the animu boys. My fashion sense was awful and I basically wore hoodies and synthetic shorts 24/7 and occasionally wore waistcoats and woollen tank tops over shirts. For this reason and the fact that I’m kind of ugly I passed as a guy most of the time. I tiffed out partially due to the pain and humiliation of puberty, but mainly because my best friend (who was ironically a lot more feminine than me, I was a tomboy as kid) started telling me how much she hated the idea of puberty and becoming a woman and that she wanted to be a guy. We were already bullied quite a bit due to general autism and odd behaviour, but it was mainly me who bore the brunt of it because I wasn’t conventionally attractive, I wore boy’s clothes, and also I was a fucking retard who didn’t understand social rules or cues and would pick my nose and eat it and get up to walk around in the middle of class. They also picked on me for having two mums. Due to this and being so close to each other to the point of being known for being inseparable, we developed this sort of nlog complex that we were better than the other girls because we were kewl and unembarrassed and outdoorsy and tresspassy and they were ‘sassy’ which was the word we chose to refer to any sort of girly clothing, behaviour, or “stuck up” sorts of people who made fun of us. Basically we thought they were boring for not being openly weird in public. Anyway, so this bred a resentment towards the idea of being a woman or relating in any way to other girls we deemed as “sassy” and she especially became averse to the idea of puberty and growing up because of how much we’d made fun of it to each other when it happened to other girls. I hated when it started happening to me because for me it started a little before her, and I couldn’t stand the idea that my body was changing and the pain of it. We even cut up and burnt books we’d been given that educated girls on puberty and periods. I didn’t want to be a teenage girl or have to grow up. Right around this time, I was about 11, my parents’ friend published a book about lgbt shit and ESPECIALLY tranny shit, and she gave a copy to me. I used to read it all the time until my parents caught on and confiscated it because they thought I was too young for it and didn’t really agree with a lot of it, but the damage had been done and at this point I told my best friend about the stuff in it and told her that explained why she wanted to be a boy. I really really regret this to this day as I feel like I was an instrumental part of her trooning out and I sowed the seeds for it. Anyway, we got really invested in that sort of thing and used to watch YouTube ‘relatable trand compilations’ together. We used to use headbands as binders and my friend even got her mum to make us a corsety sort of thing to use. We became obsessed with passing as boys in public and bonded a lot over it. I was also a fujo (despite bashing them on social media lol) which I think definitely helped contribute to my desire to be male. I also felt alienated from the girls around me because of my masculinity and attraction to girls so it also came from this naive belief that I could escape this (and my male family members’ comments on my development) if I just became a boy. I never told my parents properly or anyone else, but she actually did and changed her name to a boy’s one at school. She went stealth for a couple of years until she met another vendor friend who forced her further down into the cult and introduced her to Twitter and social media. I snapped out of that shit once I realised that no amount of hormones or surgery would ever make me into a natal male and it was basically futile to pursue because my desire lay in wishing I had been born a guy initially rather than wanting to look like a botched up midget man with a girl’s body and patchy beard.

No. 33925

>>33924
*gendie
Not vendor, kek

No. 33933

>>33924
>I used to genuinely comb my fringe into that shape and force it to stay like that to imitate the animu boys.
Based



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