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No. 170405
This thread is for everyone who is struggling with pornography, sexual frustration, and masturbation addiction. Post sources and information or your personal experience on how to quit or lower your usage.
Antiporn thread (por a more serious discussion about pornography):
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I'm addicted to hentai and I want to quit. Looking at hentai (and any kind of porn) makes me feel like a degenerate scrote, I fucking hate myself when I do it. Yet I feel like my brain needs some stimulation when I'm horny, and I'm like… horny everyday
No. 170417
>>170407Honestly i used the thought that scrotes are inherent coomers who cant be trusted ever and women are superior for being able to be sexually responsible and curb their horny brain as motivation. Scrotes are fetishists of everything. Nothing is off limits no matter the harm. Women are not like that. We are not burdened by the disease of penis and testicles and
toxic levels of of testosterone . Use your superiority as a female capable of non coomer motives to change.
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>>171201Honestly, what kind of porn? I’m not against erotica, but the problem with porn ive noticed (in others and myself) is that it’s so easy to access and requires no work on your part nor communication with another human being, so it can very easily become a total substitution for actual sex and relationships.
I also noticed that I was more interested in exploring unconventional/ taboo (not anything full on disgusting like loli or scat and stuff) which would then get boring and lead to searching for the next level. Like desensitization of my brain I guess?
But again tbh it’s hard to find good male sexual partners so faced with this total mountain of garbage that is men, I think women utilizing more erotica / porn / dojinshi etc is a bit more understandable, assuming it’s not an addiction. Culture and society is saturated with male coom appeal, anyway
bufftrap not related just amusing.
No. 209156
>>209150I don't, but this caught my eye because I suffer from other unwanted behaviours. Can you identify your
triggers? Where are you, how do you feel when you relapse? What can you replace the behaviour with in those moments? Good luck!
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i have a bit of a weird relationship with porn and i don't mean to put out TMI but im just looking for advice
i save a lot of (drawn) porn of media i have a special interest in. sometimes i go out of my way to browse through content of that specific thing. but i dont use it, it doesnt arouse me most of the time looking at it, and i don't even masturbate at all. my best guess is its some sort of weird compulsion coming from autism but idk. i'm a virgin and i don't think i'd have issues with arousal in a real life situation, but i know what i do is really unusual. so what i want to ask is, is this a porn addiction? do the usual downsides of one even apply in this case? i don't know if it's even unhealthy.
No. 215182
>>215178the changes are a specific situation that would deanon me so i'll skip on it, but it was harmful for my sexuality since the "addiction" was linked to being exposed to rule 34 at a young age and i started obsessively seeking more out. one aspect was the "moral" aspect, i became anti-porn as an adult, blah blah we know the politics behind that, and i technically wouldn't consider drawings to be as bad as real porn, i do support artistic freedom but a part of me got angry at how some artists openly post porn of shit like pokemon, sailor moon, dbz, etc out on the open where anyone can see. i saw rule 34 accidentally, i didn't seek it out initially. the whole concept of rule 34 creeps me out now too, because i don't mind seeing suggestive art of certain attractive adult characters (lmao) it borders on entitled to see artists literally race each other to be the "first" to draw porn of something, especially from a family friendly IP like sonic or pokemon. like i said, i know it's drawings and people will draw what they want and i don't hate some of it but i wish they would try harder to restrict it so only adults into that stuff can find it
No. 215197
>>215183thats exactly what i do so its reassuring to see someone else share the same experience. thanks!
>>215182>>215188these are also true. i feel it can really stunt the sexuality of still-developing people who consume that sort of content regularly.
No. 215206
>>215197exactly, i'm not completely
against drawn/written/animated porn (it's a case-by-case basis but i think self-expression is a good thing in general) but i think over-indulgence and early exposure is just as harmful as getting addicted to the real thing. i only recently started slowly recovering from the effects, but it feels too late now, especially when i had experiences in fandoms that led to grooming and being encouraged to look at this stuff more
No. 217531
>>217521You say your partner does whatever you ask, so what do you ask him to do? Is it all just about trying different positions or have you done other stuff? I'm not asking in a voyeuristic way, it just comes across to me like you're trying to overcome a disconnect from sex by imagining a "normal" sex scenario rather than exploring intimacy in general. And your idea of what sex is consists of visual/fucked up scenario → orgasm. Stop thinking it has to end in orgasm. I'm willing to bet the orgasm doesn't even feel very satisfying due to the guilt and disgust you feel at the lead up. Try to determine what you like outside of penis in vagina. Do you like when your bf massages you? Making out? Oral on you? Watching him masturbate? Are you able to relax while he plays with you and actually focus on how it feels versus frantically trying to think of something fucked up? Just slow it down. Yeah, you probably won't orgasm every time you try one of these things but that's not the point, the point is getting comfortable with being intimate and undoing the "sex = bad" teachings you grew up with. Some part of you probably feels sex has to be weird and degenerate because that's essentially what you were told as a kid, when in fact it can be loving and sweet and still really hot. Don't be afraid to have fun with it, because that's something it really seems your sex life lacks right now.
Also, do you have any toys that work for you? I don't know about you but using my hand or having to position myself just so on a partner can be tiring, where just holding a good vibe on my clit is almost always a guaranteed orgasm even when I start out not feeling like I'm in the mood. That can help give relief and ease the overall pressure as well.
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How can I remove all the disgusting things I've seen on pornography sites from my memories? Sometimes the most degenerate things come back to haunt me and I can't stand it.
No. 242443
>>237853I don’t know
nonnie i have the same issue, but it helps to know youre not the only one who was subjected to it
No. 242469
>>242277The way I view it is like this, from most damaging to least damaging ignoring the content of course:
>Videos>Gifs>Still pictures >Audio>WrittenThe content will make it more or less disgusting, but I honestly think that having visuals makes stuff more addictive and damaging than it just being the voice of some ugly ass moid.
It’s like, when I look at hot people having sex, I want to be there and be a degenerate, but when I listen to sex sounds, I can’t help but think that it’s some ugly moid beating his dick and whispering nasty shit on a microphone in the dark of his mom’s basement. And sometimes I also can’t help but think that it’s someone sticking a finger in a jar of hair gel and doing random moaning sounds just to get over with it.
When it’s written it all depends on your imagination and you can just stop it whenever you want, you can control it and if you don’t like where is it going, you can just rewrite it yourself in your mind.
No. 242484
>>237853gradually start reading vanilla erotica and vanilla porn(have it pre-downloaded) over the course of some months
go from periods of no porn usage to vanilla porn, eventually your brain rot will be healed
No. 242550
>>242535That's how I fixed myself(believe me, I was into really fucked up and violent porn cause I had my own issues) and even when I tried quitting porn, It never worked long term
by replacing my urges with Vanilla Porn, I fixed myself
I'd go from periods of not watching porn at all(3 days) then mastrubate to my pre-downloaded vanilla porn once a day for 5 days total, then I'd stop watching for 9 days and repeated the same schedule with 5 days, even when I'd fail, I would still always use the vanilla porn
eventually 9 goes to 12, then to 15, to 20, then to 30, then 40 and finally after 45 I was finally healed
No. 261544
>>261419yes, because it's not real, but make sure you don't overindulge to the point it becomes identical to an actual porn addiction and be critical of content with
toxic tropes
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I'm trying to cure my addiction so I downloaded this app, took a quiz and this is the result I got. Jeez, I had no idea it was that bad but I'm not surprised TBH
No. 272881
>>272876I don't know about 90% but the request for "some sexy lesbian stuff" might be.
Just have to ignore it at this point and never speak to them.
No. 272916
>>272886porn addiction is observable in the brain and psyche. women can absolutely become addicted, as humans with brains and psyches.
maybe they don't act like male coomers, but female coomers definitely exist.
No. 272940
>>272929>I was just always told womens arousal is less visual based than men's and more emotional based. It's definitely true for meWomen are individuals and can also be very visual. I'm very visual and used to watch porn in the past - I avoid it now though.
>>272938This is not a helpful comment at all. Like it or not, there are women out there watching porn and they should be encouraged in their struggle to quit.
No. 272942
>>272938Nta, stop trying to start an infight. Anon replied to you calmly and respectfully and now you're accusing her of being a troon. Chill. Yes there are female coomers, if you've spent any amount of time at all in /g/ then you've experienced them firsthand. Like
>>272909 said many of us got into porn as teens because it's hugely normalized in society and you're not normal/a coolgirl unless you watch it. Do that enough and you condition your body and mind to get off to it until you work to undo that conditioning. End of story. If you think someone in this thread is a scrote report and move on.
No. 272958
>>272929Men being more visual is a lie. You literally look at people and think they’re hot, that is being turned on. Men say that because they don’t wanna out effort into their appearance and think they deserve sex for just existing while we have pressure to shave, workout, get plastic surgery. All of these things
reinforced by pornography I started watching porn as a teenager, while my mind was still developing. I’m so confused sexually now. And I can’t orgasm without my mind flashing back to some porn scenes ingrained in my memory. I’ve internalized some of the things growing up and I thought choking and slapping was normal so I let my boyfriends do that to me. I shudder when I think about it. I almost tried anal but thank god that man who I attempted it with was an actual retard Virgin who thought my vagina was really my asshole, and I didn’t tell him otherwise.
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>>272929>Why would I flick my bean to some whore faking an orgasm as she gets violated by a gross moid who probably has AIDS? I just don't get how any woman can find it appealing at all.Most popular porn category for women is "lesbian" porn. Most women don't want to watch gross men either.
No. 272977
>>272970And it's a category by women… so women into MILF's. The women watching those videos probably
are milfs
No. 273007
>>272968samefag here's a link to the article.
https://www.pornhub.com/insights/women-of-the-world>>272990Other people asked this online, probably Google Analytics and advertising profiles.
No. 273118
>>273057You have got to be some kind of retard.
Firstly: Have you ever heard of sex without a penis? Some people don't like those, idiot.
You are the one that's just as bad as moids. Just as retarded and just as utterly bullheaded. Just as willing to shit yourself to talk over women telling you something other than what you swear you know. Go shit yourself in another thread.
No. 273119
>>273057Also, most porn addicted women were abused, groomed or otherwise exposed to it at some point in their lives against their will.
Even those who weren't were exposed due to the ease and normalcy of pornographic materials which is because of the degeneracy of moids in the first place.
God you are such a fuck up.
No. 278225
Another early porn exposure anon here, I'm also a survivor of CSA. After I got raped I started viewing rape hentai, but then I found audio porn and started consuming it. When I got into my older teens I started viewing video porn again. My porn consumption has escalated to quckquean shit, and I always get a wave of shame and disgust after I come. I'm trying to replace the videos I consume to SFM porn, but I still relapse ever so often. I'm doing better than a year ago, thankfully.
Here's a good article or blogpost about fetishes and if they're induced by porn or not, it has some good tips of getting off from porn as well:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180824010704/https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/are-fetishes-innateHere's also general resources and a wall of text how porn addicts you:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180824010704/https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/are-fetishes-innate No. 278320
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>watching porn on popular normie porn site
>gross "teen" ads surrounding the video i'm watching
>try to ignore them while watching my video
>click one by accident
>jailbait porn with girls who look 16
>try to exit, my porn addicted self is annoyed bc it turned me off
>get automatically redirected to another jailbait site with girls who look even younger, literally 11-13 years old
>feel a huge pit in my stomach because for a second i thought i was looking at actual child porn
>close all tabs and put my phone down
I haven't watched it since then, like 3 weeks ago. I'm done with all of it. This was a super popular normie site. It made me realize that no matter what kind of porn site you might only be 2 or 3 clicks away from actual child porn. Knowing I was so close to it makes me sick. No matter what I watched the surrounding ads would most of the time be ALMOST violence or ALMOST underage actors. Because that's what men really want to watch. Porn with violence and kids.
No. 283246
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It's heartbreaking to see how CSA survivors tend to resort to porn to cope. I am also one, and even though I didn't know what had happened to me when it did at 6 years old, when I got my first exposure at my friend's house at 8 I latched onto it as my coping mechanism. I def did watch a lot of REALLY fucked up shit first, probably a way for my brain to cope, then moved onto vanilla stuff then eventually very rarely consumed it. Basically a reverse of how most people get exposed to vanilla stuff then look for more degenerate/deviant stuff.
I've quit all forms of video porn completely in 2020, especially after seeing the statistics of child trafficking and how fucking awful the industry is towards women & how it gives so many people brain damage (by then I was consuming porn once every 4-5 months). The biggest motivator though is how many moids nowadays are completely brainrot, and I never want to become like them.
I do occasionally relapse through nsfw yumejo art / nsfw audio, mostly right before my period, but I plan to quit those slowly and only rely on my imagination. I'm sick of being this way, but it doesn't help that I'm not attracted to irl moids due to how disgusting they are.
No. 283257
>>283246I understand this. I didn’t used to have the issue until an extremely fucked up psychosis and I’m really grossed out by it now. I think the most disturbing part is that we, particularly CSA, use it as some form of self harm really and men are convinced we
want that or something.
No. 283280
>>283246Yeah, it's so common. I never looked at live action porn because it scared me, but I had terrible issues with obsessively collecting drawings (which I don't think is inherently wrong, but it can serve as an equally
toxic replacement for some), hentai, comics drawn by scrotes, and being in very hypersexual communities. Ironically, I was abused multiple times as a little kid, but getting assaulted as a teenager was what made me refuge into degenerate roleplay spaces as a coping mechanism. Then Tumblr came along with its rhetoric that these things are healthy, empowering, and
valid coping. I was diagnosed with a hypersexual disorder shortly after I cut off all contact from those spaces and the "friends" I met in them, but I ironically have no sex drive (never did as a result of the abuse), so I have to fight myself from coming back to those spaces because they feel "safer" than having actual sex that I won't be aroused by anyway…
No. 283614
>>272929>Why would I flick my bean to some whore faking an orgasm as she gets violated by a gross moid who probably has AIDS? I just don't get how any woman can find it appealing at all.You basically meme yourself into finding it arousing, and it's really easy to learn to like it when you're young and are exposed to porn without context, thinking that you're also supposed to find it hot, particularly if you're going through puberty and trying to explore your sexuality.
If women can get weird fetishes like inflation or whatever, things that are unnatural, it makes sense that women can also learn to get off to porn for males. Ever heard of Pavlov's dog? In this case, you start to associate imagery of naked women being sexually abused (a normally traumatic image) with arousal. Even if you think it's not "natural" or possible for women to get off to images (what?) it's definitely possible to increase the effect of visual stimuli under the right conditions, and that often happens in childhood or adolescence, when your brain is still developing and very sensitive to this kind of stimuli. As for why female porn addicts find it hot instead of repulsive or traumatic, they project onto the woman and basically develop autogynephilia and get off to their own image of being a sexy woman being used by scrotes, due to conditioning by society and the porn they're watching which is entirely focused on the woman. That's definitely not natural, you could even call it a form of trauma, but it does happen.
Also "women's arousal is less visual based" is not the same as "women don't use images to masturbate at all", it just means that women rely less on images to get off
on average, meaning that there's still a lot of women who prefer images to get off although most women don't; and also there's some women who are porn addicted although the vast majority of women aren't. Just because male and female brains function a little differently doesn't mean that they're not capable of the same things, such as addiction and fetishes, even if certain things are more common in one sex than the other.
No. 283638
>>272886>>272876I think it's good you were smart enough to not get groomed by the culture into porn/hentai
nonny.
I relate to posts here and there. Low self esteem, got bullied, wasn't sociable/pretty like the other girls. There was this vibe of wanting to be in the know especially because I'm born in a very conservative family and I hated being looked down by my friends/classmates who "knew more than me" when it comes to porn. Hentai was my first exposure though, it was a kids IP bc I was curious what doujins are like.
For the longest time I had very different fantasies when I just write out my own erotica (tame, tender vanilla stuff) vs when I get off by my clit (moid writing degen shit). And only recently I managed to tackle it esp after peaking and reading stuff about radfem.
I still feel weird urges to get off (which i never do) whenever I hear something traumatic happening IRL and it disgusts me so much.
No. 283647
>>170407There's actually tons of female hentai artists.
Hentai is also more humane than real porn, because it's works of literature rather than human trafficking.
No. 283650
>>283647But it can also contain questionable depictions of sex, which leads to people being aroused to children, rape, or other
abusive sexual dynamics. It's still an awful stimulant and I don't see how hentai being "works of literature" makes it any better.
No. 283651
>>283647I agree, since a drawing will never be as bad as real women being abused, by a lot of hardcore H-games and animated hentai kind of pushes the limit IMO. I'm pro-sexual art in theory because it's more creative, but in practice a lot of it feels like the diet soda version of actual porn. It just depends on what kind. I've seen female-focused art that's pretty nice but the average fanart I see for most anime is replicates actual porn but with the characters.
>>283650lmao, you said it before me. I think we need to draw lines in the sand of what kind is okay. "Hentai is good because it isn't real" is too broad of a statement because it lumps in things that arguably aren't okay like shota/loli/rape/etc. into it.
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This game ruined my fucking brain and I hate that I ever found it
No. 284881
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I developed a porn addiction from a pretty young age. And I think I was always pretty vulnerable to that. Since I can remember, I was a child that was way interested in sex to what would be a concerning degree, but if I ever was abused, I don't remember it so I try not to think too hard about it. But I think that, alongside my parents never limiting my internet usage, made it really easy for me to start watching porn when it was introduced to me.
I would compulsively watch porn and masturbate for years. When I was stressed or anxious about something, I would do it. When I was happy, I would do it. It really didn't matter the occassion. I was always thinking about doing it. And I would do it until it hurt. Thinking about it makes me want to cry.
I hate talking about this because I usually only hear porn addicted scrotes talk about it, but it's really true that at some point normal porn just doesn't do anything for you. This started happening soon after I hit puberty. It's also when I started preferring hentai so the fetishes I had at 14 years old were so degen that when I wasn't actively watching porn/masturbating I was crying, feeling so much shame and disgust about the intrusive thoughts this gave me. I was learning more about the reality of the porn industry too, and getting radicalized on top of being addicted just totally broke my brain.
This went on up until I was around 18 or 19 or so. I think I realized it was really a problem when I was at work one day, and I was waiting for my ride to pick me up after my shift. So I was just scrolling on my phone in the lobby when I had the sudden urge to look at porn. This is what it came to. I would watch degrading porn as a form of entertainment, not even to masturbate to, but just to watch. And I started doing it in public. The only thing that broke me out of my trance as I was going to find a video was the realization that I was at work, in a government building, with a camera behind me capturing my phone screen. Not just a fireable offense, but a criminal offense, something that will put me on a registry. I was about to just turn into a complete sex pest with a record in the span of a few seconds and I caught myself by the skin of my teeth.
It was something that I laughed at initially, but something that has shook me to my core since. It was after that that I started thinking really hard, not just about how ethical watching porn is, but how it's impacted my mental health. I realized that I don't even get turned on from regular porn anymore. I barely got turned on from fetish porn. It was that instance at my job along with the fact I realized I may have also stumbled on some illegal shit online a few times over the course of my life that cemented the idea that I'm really just better off never seeking that shit out again.
Masturbation was a different story for me. Even after I stopped watching porn, I was still a compulsive masturbator. I got a remote job at some point and that really made things a million times worse on that front. It got to a point where every time after I masturbated, I would cry. I would have these full body panic attacks where I would just be curled in a ball in my bed or on the floor and I couldn't feel anything besides this intense disgust for my own brain, because the thoughts that I would have while I masturbated progressively became so vile I couldn't process it.
It's something that I considered suicide over for a time. I just felt like a broken person. For a lot of my adolescence I didn't think I was a girl. I wanted to be anything besides a girl for such a long time. Coming into womanhood with that feeling, with it fading after quitting porn, and then retraumatizing myself every time I masturbated because I was having those intrusive thoughts that came from the porn. The only way I could break that cycle once and for all was by never masturbating again.
I'm 7 months and 6 days sober from masturbating today and every day I feel my conscience getting clearer. I feel a bit of my brain heal. A bit of my heart. A bit of my childhood that I lost regained. The innocence I was meant to have but was never allowed. I still have bad times every now and again, some times when I have sex with my boyfriend, or some times when I'm lying in bed with only my thoughts, some times even when I see a picture of me when I was little.
Some times it feels like this is an experience that only I can relate to. I barely ever see people talk about the deep trauma that was inflicted on them by porn, zero parental guidance, compulsive masturbation, etc. that sometimes I wonder if it's just me. It's also something that has taken me almost 22 years to talk about, even anonymously like this, so I know that if anyone can relate, it must be difficult to discuss for you too.
This was really long so if anyone actually reads this thanks kek. I think this is just something I've had on my mind for a bit since beginning therapy and I wanted to actually put it down somewhere.
No. 284887
>>284881Wow this is actually super relatable, like almost every word. You're definitely not alone nona.
Having grown up with the internet and discovered degen sites like Newgrounds through innocent gaming sites at like 8 years old, the whole phrase "adult content" feels so disingenuous to me. I had a severe porn addiction that I had quit twice before I even turned 18. I hate how it fucked up my sexuality, and how it still influences me. I've been able to slowly heal to the point where I can make up fantasies that are not so contaminated by porn but I hate it that I will never experience sexuality in a completely "innocent" way.
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(and now! the longest post ever!)
Personally, I'm on my way to quit all kinds of porn and if possible masturbation for good in hopes to get my brain and my body back…
I think it all started when I was around 6 or 7 years old and I had a TV in my room (which I didn't share with anyone, my only sibling was my brother who had his own room too) and i eventually found sex scenes from movies. I "discovered my body" to those old reality shows form the 2000s that were borderline pornography… Every night I'd desperately click the remote looking for more and more graphic stuff but it's tv so it was still pretty tame stuff imo.
Then, at 12, we got internet connection and a computer which was mostly used by me. That's when I found out dirty erotic games (mostly drawn stuff I think). At around the same time I got my first smartphone (it was 2012) and soon enough I had my first encounter with actual porn videos. I think what I first watched was one of those shockingly bizarre viral videos, 2-girls-1-cup-esque. I have no idea how often or what kind of videos I watched as a teenager (it's all a blur) but I know I had my entire sexuality (as in puberty and as in sexual orientation) based around them…
ps: my tv consumption was quite vaguely supervised, no channels were blocked and I just had to make sure my parents didn't walk in on me "busy" at night (I was sent to bed at around 22:00 but I just had to keep the volume low); internet wasn't supervised more than just having my mom look over my shoulder during the afternoon whenever she was around the house.
I would do incredibly inappropriate things, especially when I was little, that I won't describe.
I kept growing and I found feminism, and then radical feminism. I never bought into the idea that sex work could be empowering but I did buy into the "sex work is cool" thing. I had plans on running away from the mess at home and work as stripper or even a prostitute the minute I turned 18. As I write this I can't believe there was a point in my life where, even though I knew I didn't desire to be touched sexually and the thought of having people looking and judging my body was frightening, I thought doing those things I said was even an option. I thought that would make me feel pretty, so different from what I was always told I was: ugly, stupid and useless.
I was around 15. I understood the harm sex work does to women in and outside that industry. I was too selfish to try to quit pornography. "I'm only one person" I thought. Truth is I used it as an antidepressant. It never worked for more than a few seconds but I kept consuming.
At 18, I made up my mind and found out after doubting since I was 13 that I was in fact: a lesbian. I made a real effort to quit porn and was surprised to see that I just couldn't. It took me some years to understand that it isn't only unethical to consume it but it's also damaging to the brain in a neurological sense.
Now at 23 I'm still on the battle and I'm not gonna give up.
I feel like I can't tell all this without telling a little about the story of my life, lol. This affected deeply my relationship with my sense of self, my body as a woman, my mental health (concentration, self esteem, will to live, etc), my relationship with other people, and many more things.
I don't like to blame my parents but I lowkey wish I had never gotten a tv, or internet connection ever.
My connection between my feelings and my body is shattered.
My goal, as I said, is to quit everything: audio, written, images/gifs and of course videos. I'm sick of everything XXX. I want my brain and my body back!
I've been one month and two weeks free of adult videos. I relapsed once with a suggestive photo, a couple times with written stories and once with an audio. I try to be kind to myself but disciplined.
I hope this wasn't too hard to read I tried to be as concise and clear as I could.
Anyway: helpful resources
I Am Sober app (to track your days without problematic consumption of anything, it's free and you don't need to log in)
Dr Trish Leigh on youtube (for info and extremely helpful tips)(lolcow.farm/info)
No. 287755
I know it's Twitter, but I saw yet another big tweet saying porn addiction is not real and just a right wing myth, and it makes me want to scream. It's true that everything can be addictive (sugar, video games, phones, etc.) but I don't understand why people are so brainwashed that they don't see that getting behaviorally addicted to watching what is usually the result of human trafficking (the vast majority of the time), to just be a non-issue or a matter of "moderation" (normally I would agree to be moderate with habit-forming things, as someone who is on a diet, but not rape on tape). And I see the argument that it's also a myth to stop people from "exploring their sexuality" - how? My issues with sexual stuff started as a teenager and gawking at images of sex didn't help me "explore", it made me more confused about what I liked, looking at porn isn't exploration, especially if you're sitting at home doing it and not trying to date people. It's so frustrating how brainwashed people are. I'm not even anti-sex or anti-erotica but the difference between that and the shit on Pornhub is like night and day.
No. 287768
>>287755>And I see the argument that it's also a myth to stop people from "exploring their sexuality" - how?Troon propaganda and pro-porn/kink propaganda go hand-in-hand, as well as pro-MAP propaganda (curious…). I've literally seen loli-addicted trannies claim that hentai addiction is a good thing because it helps them figure out their gender identity. Most porn defenders think like this, maybe not with respect to pedo shit specifically, but with porn in general. They also think the women featured in real porn are consenting to being treated like trash and that becoming like that is a result of their own thoughts and not of the endless factors that influence women to sell their bodies for money and the pleasure of males in a misogynistic society.
The reality is that becoming a porn addict, at least as a woman, puts you at a greater risk of contracting STDs, damaging your body, or being sexually and physically abused, and probably more.
No. 287779
>>287768I think the OP of the tweet was a man or a TIF pretending to be a man, but telling someone to watch porn to "explore" makes no sense because (pretending we are in an alternative universe where porn is harmless) what can be appealing to look at is different from what might feel good with your body. But people are just using porn as a replacement for actual exploration with other people they met organically.
I don't think it's inherently pro-MAP/paraphilia, but you might be onto something; I watched a Youtube video where an anonymous "ex-zoophile" talked about how he was groomed into bestiality by having someone encourage him to watch it (since it's not illegal to view like CP is), and he thought he was one too because the stimulus made his body respond (something I've read from people with OCD). Porn is very stimulating visually, even if it's something you aren't into. I had (past-tense) a gay friend who was so addicted and got bored with gay porn, that he started watching transvestite and even straight porn, even though he didn't like women, it fed a feedback loop of sexual imagery that excited him physically but not mentally.
No. 288076
>>287779Confession : I followed a meme page during an era of Covid where Instagram didnt care about taking posts down and there were a bunch of meme pages who’d post fucked up shit, anyways one posted a video of
a lady bent down having sex with a dog it turned me on but obviously I unfollowed them and felt so ashamed. She was moaning and everything like one might in an actual regular video.
No. 288117
>>219524This is great
nonnie. What a positive development!
No. 294039
>>293131This is just my own opinion, but the problem I have with porn
isn't that it's sexual, it's that the industry is not remotely ethical and linked with trafficking, and when you watch porn, there's no way to tell if it's revenge porn (leaked nudes/sex tape/etc.), if the actor is underage, or if something nonconsensual outside of contract happened when the cameras went off, etc. I don't think things that are sexual are inherently bad, since most of the adult population are sexual beings. Unless burlesque has shady things going behind-the-scenes like strip clubs do, I don't think there's an inherent issue with things like that. Unless someone who knows more about that scene and wants to educate me.
No. 294120
>>294039I've already been against porn and what pushed me even further was being reminded about editors, backstage stuff. I remember reading about a few instances of porn video editors dealing with lots of blood, vomit, and other various fluids and drugs and cries of pain and the moments where the actors are being taken care of to get cleaned up or touched up, and they edit all that out to make it look like none of that happened and everything went smoothly.
I have no doubts similar things happen at burlesque shows. Whatever is done backstage, such as performers using drugs to get through the night, is common.
No. 294387
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I'm so mad at myself. I know that masturbation feels so much better for me when I just use my finger + imagination. The climax doesn't feel so good when I look at porn. I guess it's because I'm too focus on the image.
Yet I keep looking up hentai whenever I get horny instead of just getting off to my fantasy. I actually think it's link to my phone addiction because I need an image and sound to look at because I think I won't be stimulated otherwise.
It also just takes up too much of my time because instead of just wanking it and then continue my day I have to spend so much time looking for the right gif of an anime girl getting fucked because I'm critical of art. It doesn't even turn me on! But I feel like I need to look at something!!
Worst is how gross I feel after getting off to hentai. It's just the degrading way men view women and how they view sex as a form for domination. And the disgusting stuff I get in my recommendations is traumatising, for example (BLACKED OUT TEXT IS EXTREMELY DISTURBING SO BE CAREFUL) 3d animation of children that is made to look as realistic as possible I never click on it but it keeps showing up.
All this has just made me disturbed by men and sex. I hate it. I hate myself for watching it. It's not even turning me on I'm just mindlessly rubbing my clit while staring the screen with a blank expression. At this point I legit think it's a form for self harm. I don't know what to do. I have tried reading erotica but as soon as I get turned on by that I just find some gross hentai gif and start getting off to that instead.
I'm so fucking pathetic
No. 295383
>>294387Have you tried looking at artwork drawn by women? This might be an unpopular opinion, but while 99% of hentai is (for lack of a better word)
problematic and moidy, I don't think sexual artwork is always as bad as literal filmed rape. I notice most hentai is drawn by porn addicts, but I've seen some female artist stuff that wasn't so bad. I've personally started making my own artwork because I'm critical of art too, I used to fall into rabbit holes searching for "the perfect image", but there's honestly no such thing, so I started doing it myself.
I've never created a feedback loop by masturbating to hentai, but I talked to someone who used to be addicted and one thing she told me was that she would "taper off" using it, or when she was watching it and about to reach orgasm, she would stop and think about something else to rewire the feedback loop. I also turn my phone off or use a website blocker addon that blocks porn sites when I was the most addicted to my phone and masturbated a lot.
IDK, I really wish some kind of therapy existed for this stuff. I tried talking to some sex therapists, but they tend to be pro-porn which is the opposite of what I need.
No. 295628
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>>284925Those site blockers for desktop and mobile don't do enough imo
i need something that drops a gallon of freezing water over me whenever i even think of relapsing….
No. 295635
>>295628Something that helped me a lot with feeling turned off by irl porn is knowing that the women in porn are getting raped, they're not having fun, they're high as fuck, specially if the video never shows the face of the woman.
Also knowing that the "homemade" videos are probably, if not surely, revenge porn is quite fucked up.
I still look drawn porn, but not as much as before I was at my worst moment with my porn addiction.
Something that also helps me with looking for drawn porn is being selective, just not picking the first thing that comes up, knowing that non-con themes are easy to spot by the tags or by the way a face is drawn helps a lot.
I also never look for stuff with school themes because it's a huge turn off to me, so that depressingly reduces the things I could even watch/look/read, since most anime or cartoon porn tends to have schoolgirl/boy themes, which is very fucked up.
And just try to become extremely selective, being only into porn with dark skin women helped me a lot as well, because there's barely any drawn porn with adult women of color in a consensual scenario. Which is again really depressing if you think about it.
So pick something that may feel retardedly random but that you think you would like. Like characters with beauty marks, characters wearing certain outfits, characters with certain hairstyles, and so on.
It helps because the more selective you are, the longer it will take to find something and the more tedious it will be to look for porn.
I don't think that stopping to masturbate is good tbh, I mean, sexual urges are natural after all. Just try to use your imagination.
No. 295649
>>295635NTA but being selective is what helped me kill my porn addiction as well. In my case it happened accidentally, I discovered those femporn threads on /h/, realized that there was a lot more straight anime porn for women than I thought, and I liked it so much that hentai for males stopped being appealing to me entirely. I started to pay more attention to how the male and female characters are drawn and who the angles focused on when I looked at any anime porn to spot the pics that weren't for women, and every time I found something aimed at males it pissed me off kek. So now when I look at moid hentai I'm just annoyed because it's for scrotes and the girls are drawn to be more attractive for them.
It was also helped by the fact that cute male characters in hentai who are my type are non-existent. Cute males are already rare in moid hentai, but cute ones with my favorite traits are impossible to find. Then I became bored with femporn too because there's so little of it that it's hard to find anything that really caters to my specific tastes. Then I learned to masturbate to my husbandos using my imagination without looking at pictures.
For real porn I just had some truly unpleasant experiences with porn addicted misogynistic scrotes, read about the effects of porn in young people, and about how women in porn are treated and its relation to sex crimes (which I gotta thank farmers for). It all traumatized me so much that thinking about real porn makes me depressed, it's practically impossible for me to get off to that shit now.
I consider myself cured of porn addiction as I don't look at real porn and only use hentai once in a blue moon (and every time I do, it's really disappointing like you said), and don't really need porn to get off, but my fetishes are permanently fucked up from years of porn addiction, I think.
No. 295655
>>295649Don't worry, nonna! You can fix your fetishes as well. I used to be into
rape and
teacher/student shit, just basically pedo anime porn because I used to self-insert as the
teen.
But knowing how fucked up are moids, learning that growing up isn't shameful, that life doesn't end when you're over 21 years old, and so much more, made me stop feeling turned on by that shit.
I don't think fetishes are something that can't be helped, I think you can change them or destroy them completely as long as you rationalize just why you're into those things, why they turn you on, how it affects your self esteem, what would someone close to you think about you if you told them about these things you're into.
It's awkward and it makes you want to kill yourself sometimes, but it works.
No. 295793
>>295383I'm starting to build up an hidden folder with art done by women. Since it's on my storage instead of social media I'm not going to get an algorithm that shows me stuff I hate.
Thanks for the tip nona
No. 296170
>>296150i looked on imdb for the reviews bc i was curious to see how it was rated and a bunch of reviewers (mostly male usernames) were going on about how the girls just seem stupid, entitled, and not really victimized at all. makes me want to watch it even more. favorite quote of all
>Warning, you may not want to watch porn for a whilea while?? watch out boys, we got a saint in here
No. 301122
I was born in the early 90s and was exposed to porn for the first time when I was 9 years old. I’ve been addicted to it and didn’t start questioning it until I was in my early to mid 20s, because I grew up with the attitude that all sexuality except pedophilia is healthy (even if you're a pedophile it's totally ok, just don't act on it), live and let live etc. I used tumblr and was mostly into hentai, but obviously my tastes grew more and more extreme parallel to internet porn becoming more and more extreme.
I recently found myself having a huge relapse and almost didn’t question it at first. I was a bit disappointed in myself for being a hypocrite and going against my own morals, but it feels so good to just let go and turn off your brain and give into pleasure right? I ended up becoming hypersexual around my bf, less emotionally present during sex, disappointed if he wasn’t up for several rounds, fixated on kinks (he is more vanilla than me), literally wasting all my time looking at porn etc. Thankfully he actually brought the issue of porn up with me and told me he had used it but felt weird looking at it after we started dating, that he had wanted to cut down on it anyway. He knew about some of the research on porn being bad, and the conversation we had made me second-guess what I was doing.
I’m currently listening to «Your Brain On Porn». Yes yes, moids have no empathy and only worry about porn once it affects their dick, but when you hear about the research, coupled with how young kids are on average when exposed to porn (I was only 9 years old!!!), when you think about it from the angle of child grooming, I am still able to have sympathy with moids too. While girls are groomed into objectifying ourselves and into thinking we enjoy being physically abused, boys are groomed into getting off to the most depraved and pathetic stuff you can imagine. They are groomed into using their body as a weapon. When I think about that 7, 8, 9 year old boys I feel sad.
I believe there will be a backlash. I’m low-key tempted to become more outspokenly antiporn on reddit. I wanna pm girls and scrotes who are active on porn subreddits with my concerns about them having been groomed kek. If I make even a couple of them second-guess themselves, I think it’s well worth it.
No. 301126
>>301122>when you think about it from the angle of child grooming, I am still able to have sympathy with moids too.Yeah, you might get backlash, and it's not a hill I'd die on, but I've known antiporn men who were exposed at an early age. Not to mention it's considered a "cool guy thing" to be okay with and watch. That's why I kind of think male communities like NoFap can
potentially be a good thing, even if I really hate how they focus on why addiction itself is unhealthy and not the ethics involved with what they're jerking to. That said, I have a hard time trusting men who confess to watching violent or illegal stuff in the past.
No. 309840
>>309815I wish I knew what the answer is, but I've had gross fantasies that make me uncomfortable from a young age, and I notice that I feel less gross about it when I orgasm while
thinking about it and not looking at content of it. Another thing is that I have "flare ups" of being reliant on those thoughts when I'm going through stress and self esteem issues, so I try to adjust my lifestyle. I think finding people to talk to can be a good distraction too, can you find any SFW spaces (of anything) just for idle chit chat?
No. 320057
>>170405I don't know what to do.
I spent years completely celibate and not using any pornography. A little over a year ago I started having sex with my boyfriend, and suddenly I'm just so much hornier since I guess I'm being "primed" by sex with him, compared to before when I was celibate.
I don't live with him, so I can't have sex very often. So I'm so horny throughout the week. I work from home and can't focus at work until I cum. But when I masturbate, I can only seem to get off with a dildo and rubbing my clit at the same time, which requires both hands.
This leaves more moral forms of pornography, like erotica, as non-options. And I can't get off without some sort of stimulus alone. I know that video pornography is immoral. The type I watch is very vanilla and not fetishistic, but it's still immoral and hurts women as a class. I feel so guilty but recently not guilty enough to not do it. I feel like such a bad person.
No. 322323
>>322238Have you tried the techniques in this article?
https://medium.com/@kittyit/taking-back-your-mind-a-radical-feminist-approach-to-recovering-from-porn-use-8ae9347c3d8fI had phases where I had unhealthy kinks/fantasies, and one thing that also helped me was analyzing why they appealed to me and the reasons why I developed the kink in the first place. It helped me recognize them as self harm or a part of a psychological trauma issue and lean more into healthier fantasies with similar themes. If you really want to kill your libido, antidepressants and/or birth control can do that too, but I wouldn't recommend that as an absolute last resort.
No. 322338
>>322238Start by quitting and deleting all porn. I’d even quit erotica and the like. Take some time to touch yourself slowly and figure out what physical sensations are pleasurable for you. If a porn-induced idea pops into your head, take a moment to pause and focus on your breathing. Resume when the thought passes. You don’t need to make the initial goal orgasming: just focus on what you like. You can put on music/white noise/rain sounds, use oils/lube, light candles, take a bath, pick sexy clothes, use fingers/toys/ask a partner to help… focus on making yourself feel good without the help of porn and by feeling what your body likes. Touch different body parts: your ears, your neck, your inner thighs, your nipples, etc. with different pressures or speeds. What feels good? Try experimenting with sensations: ice cubes, different pressures or strokes, vibrating vs. penetrative toys, different fabric textures, blindfolds, etc. There are a bajillion listicles on ways to get creative with masturbating without porn. Over time, you’ll be able to masturbate without relying on porn or your mental rolodex of porn imagery or ideas.
Sorry for the long response, just wanted to give you ideas. I promise you it’s very possible, even if it seems impossible now. I quit porn about 3 years ago for ethical reasons. I felt like I was also veering into more and more hardcore stuff and I was unhappy with it. After focusing on what my body actually liked I feel like a lot of the pornsick imagery, ideas, kinks, etc. just went away. I didn’t realize how much I had been conditioning myself to be aroused to it by masturbating to it over and over again. I feel mostly repulsed or uninterested in most pornsick stuff now. I usually just use a toy and my fingers nowadays. If I want some stimulation, I occassionally read some erotica or listen to some sensual audio (the app Dipsea is pretty decent). I look at drawn stuff maybe a few times a year, but most drawn porn is a huge turn off once you stop rotting your brain with porn, so I mostly stick to audio and literature based erotica. If I find myself listening to or reading something that feels too pornsick for me or that I feel perpetuates harmful ideas about women’s sexuality, I just turn it off or pick something else or masturbate based off of sensation alone.
You can do it nonna! I believe in you
No. 329508
When I was a child (10-15) I was exposed to a lot of porn (both 2d and 3d) and I would basically consume anything and everything. Usually the only requirement would be that a woman is in it but at one point I was in so deep I would look at the most depraved things. I would also look at a lot of horrible gore. I would spend many hours a day just browsing and looking at this porn and gore and trying to masturbate to everything including decapitation and torture.I was an active poster on gurochan and gore subreddits when I was 13-15. I feel very dirty and want to forget everything. I'm lesbian but feel bad about calling myself one because I used to be a porn addicted child. I feel bad about even calling myself human because of what I grew up looking at. I'm repulsed by most pornographic content now but I still look at 2d solo and lesbian hentai of my waifu because I love her and this doesn't affect me negatively.
>>284858I would play a lot of games like this. I played a lot of hentai games about abusing women. It's too easy to access content like this. How can I cure my self esteem about this or brainwash myself into forgetting? I think what I saw traumatized me a little bit.
No. 329544
>>322238Take de-escalation steps.
>starting point: obsessed with degenerate hentai mindbreak rape>step down to only rape where it’s a dream or fantasy and only ones with the woman getting off as the main feature >step down to just consensual pleasure mindbreak>read a doujin with a lovey couple backstory instead of watching a highschool incest molestation hentai or whatever I don’t know worked for me. Really lost my interest in the worst stuff. Good taste can protect you sometimes. But sometimes you just have to fully stop consuming it to adjust your habits, I don’t know your whole situation. I think you should go easy on yourself and not stress so much, if you’re calm you can think rationally about what you’re watching and maybe find an alternative. I think self-shaming feeds into cycles of frantic binges of the worst porn and you start to think your brain and libido is broken and get really down on yourself, but you can absolutely change your habits if you take a deep breath and take a step away
No. 329585
>>329582Thank you. I don't know how much I am supposed to share with people or not about a lot of things, I'm still learning. I'm waiting to be diagnosed with ASD if that explains anything.
>>329583I can't bring myself to think about it like that because it didn't feel trivial to me, it affected me quite deeply and scared me a lot. So in my case I think it would be better to just forget as much as I can.
No. 332683
>>332639I wonder if there’s any studies about that. Because it’s just crazy how porn consumption tends go kind of like this for me:
>sexy picture with clothes on>sexy picture in underwear >sexy picture naked>sexy gif>gif where two people are fucking>vanilla video without sound>vanilla video with sound>a bit “kinky” with sound>very “kinky” with sound >bizarre shit out of morbid curiosity because it was in the related tagsAnd when it comes to hentai, the way my reading progresses (I absolutely hate watching hentai because it’s obnoxious as fuck) like this:
>manga with vanilla sex>vanilla sex with monster >”kinky” sex>shit gets weird because it has a tag I care about>shit gets weirder, now I don’t care about the tags anymore unless it’s some really fucked up shit like lolicon/shotacon or bestiality because that turns me off since it’s disgusting.I don’t get why it progresses like that, like if I don’t control myself like I do, I can end up reading some weird ass shit with rape and futanari shit (if the characters don’t look grotesque of course).
No. 332723
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nonas… I'm never gonna break this cycle of bad habits
No. 332733
>>332723You can do it,
nonnie! Just try to fight the urges, find something to do, make people call you so you get turned off, maybe try to get a tight schedule so you don’t have an option but to avoid masturbating with porn.
No. 332768
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I'm definitely addicted to porn. I haven't analysed it before but I think it's affecting my sex life. I find sex boring and I'd rather watch porn and masturbate. I don't feel sensitive at all – having sex barely feels pleasurable. It's ok, but not pleasurable. The problem is I definitely, definitely can't orgasm, no matter what. It's starting to worry me; sometimes when my bf finishes and goes to shower I secretly watch porn on my phone to help with the frustration. What's worse is that I fake it and the acting makes me feel ridiculous. Occasionally I get a little shock of pleasure that prompts me to produce a genuine response but it's exceedingly rare and I'm not sure how to… conjure it.
Head doesn't feel good, fingering doesn't feel good, kink stuff I abhor, PIV feels alright but it's always over too soon and it's getting to the point where I can take it or leave it… I feel hopeless! When I first started having regular sex the novelty made me feel at least aroused but I'm worried that particular 'well' is also drying up.
Like most, I started watching hardcore porn at a young age. I think I started with bizarre-o hentai and then moved to real people pretty exclusively in BDSM situations. I was very insecure growing up and felt uncomfortable with the fact I was a girl – not in a trans way, I mostly just felt unworthy and hideous. My clit is also on the bigger side so when I saw in porn that the actress' bodies looked different to mine I was very freaked out and for many years I thought I needed surgery. I desperately searched for ways to mutilate my own vagina to make it look 'normal'. I remember looking at the knives in the kitchen and wondering if there was something I could do, I must've been about 13. When I first had sex with my current boyfriend I was very reluctant; he was eager to give me head but I kept putting it off and I only had sex with my clothes still partially on. When I eventually relented I cried and told him that I didn't look like other girls and that he wouldn't like it. Big, big, ugly cry.
I was disgusted by myself and I guess that manifested in the types of porn I consumed. During my pre-to-late teens I'd exclusively consume porn that abused males, proper guro doujins or weird BDSM stuff, pegging etc. The woman had to be in control and ideally clothed. I don't watch those things anymore but I did for about 6 or 7 years. By the time I started having sex and getting into relationships (which I thought would never happen to me because I thought I was a hideous turbovirgin loser) I genuinely believed that the only type of sex I could feasibly have was S&M. I'd strangle people and spit on them and tie them up just so I could stay clothed. It made me realise that I actually hate all that shit lol. I only have regular sex now and for a while that was great, I couldn't come but at least it felt good. But at the moment I barely feel a thing.
I hate pornsickness. I feel like I've moulded my brain into a sexually neurotic male brain: I watched so much hardcore porn that I think my sex drive snapped and inane things started turning me on instead. I started jacking off to videos of women putting on lipgloss. I feel like a pest.
I'm much less insecure about my body but I'm definitely pornsick. I really want to enjoy sex. I'm also worried about neural plasticity and all that – the porn-haze that washes over me makes me feel so dumb and unproductive. Is it best to go cold turkey on porn altogether? If I masturbate less as a result will it help me to regain sensitivity?
No. 332919
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I posted here a few times about my struggles and I've been doing good these past several months. No relapses. I don't masturbate often anymore and when I do, it's to my imagination. The scrote-tier hentai material I broke my brain to no longer does anything for me. I didn't quit cold turkey, but I immediately moved to female-friendly material like josei smut works and fanfiction that is very vanilla which albeit is still porn but leaves a lot to the imagination. I did break periods where I wouldn't consume anything R18 at all and would consciously consume it less and less. Then eventually just stopped using it entirely. I know it's always going to be an ongoing struggle, but I feel so much better about myself these days.
No. 333251
its so bizarre my sex dreams centers around me watching porn. instead dreaming of me being in sexual acts all my sexual dreams are of me lying in bed while browsing porn. The "arousing" part of the dream is me clicking on a
2d porn video and then the video starts playing.
to be fair my sex dreams have always been bizarre even before I started watching porn. they used to be about me grinding(while clothed) against people I'm not attracted to (I always woke up feeling gross after those dreams) but I hate that I have become so disconnected to my own sexuality that even in my dreams I rely on porn
>>332919that's awesome anon! proud of yoy
No. 338823
>>338804At first it’s difficult, and you will get cravings too. Lately I’ve relapsed and watched porn, even irl porn, and tbh, once you notice how you can’t actually climax while watching it, you notice how shitty it is.
I guess something that helped me a lot with not watching porn is just analyzing it, since most of the time most people will just watch whatever.
You need to focus more on how you feel while imagining your husbando, don’t look for “inspiration” or the sorts because you may watch porn. Try to imagine what his hands would feel like on your body and what he may want to do with you and such. Sex headcanons about your husbandos are always a way to turn yourself on.
At some point you will notice how you can actually orgasm after thinking of your husbando and not after watching porn.
No. 341420
Like many anons, I was exposed to porn at a pretty young age. We had playboy magazines out in the open and my mother would even encourage me to read through them as a kid. Then I became terminally online right as I was hitting puberty, so porn was rampant. It started off with manga, then fanart, then gifs, and only after I moved out did I start watching videos. It got to a point where I would masturbate to porn multiple times daily.
After reading into radfem topics and watching docs mentioned in this thread before like Hot Girls Wanted, I've significantly reduced my usage of it since 2020, and can go months at a time without it, but then I'll get horny one day and annoyed that I'm not orgasming quickly and pull up a video just to get that 'quick fix'. It's not even sexy to me. I find them in roundabout ways rather than going straight to a porn site, which is a huge waste of time and defeats the purpose of me trying to orgasm quickly kek. But each time it's always shameful because god damn it, why couldn't I just push through it? Why did I have to get so impatient? Even though I'm not going to let it get as bad as it did, relapsing even once still sucks.
I've been making a more active effort lately to reframe my thoughts when I'm masturbating, i.e. putting myself in the position of having sex instead of 'watching' it, thinking of someone I'm attracted to, and really thinking about the sensations of it all. The orgasms are great, but they still take a long time to get there (close to an hour) even if I'm super horny. And right now, I can only really use my vibrator to accomplish anything which I know I need to be 'weaned off' of. My arm just gets tired rubbing my clit for an hour. Another problem I have is that I still think back to certain videos if I'm struggling to stay turned on. I'll start doing what the past couple of anons mentioned and just stop when I find myself thinking of them so my brain can keep rewiring those connections. Good luck to the nonnies in this thread!!
No. 343304
>>343303That is far from irreversible.
>claim to beFor your own mental health, stop associating with ideologies. I promise you your life is going to become 10x better.
No. 343305
>>343304But I literally can't stop. I tired to distance myself from it but end up thinking "just one can't hurt, right?" and relapse every single time. I now truly understand how junkies feel.
>For your own mental health, stop associating with ideologies. I promise you your life is going to become 10x better.That might be a better idea. I don't really know shit about me outside of labels and identities I plaster on myself.
No. 343309
>>343305Keep trying and don't cry over relapses.
If you eat healthy for 2 weeks and then gorge yourself on burgers once, it's not an excuse to say "yo all hope is lost" and spend the next year inhaling fast food. You just pick up where you left off.
No. 343916
Porn has been with me for a long time, but even in the past few years where the worst of my addiction stopped, every 3-8 months I would have a 1-3 day binge. Always made me feel like shit, broken, damaging my sexuality, etc. So after years of this cycle and cold turkey clearly not fully working I'm trying to take some of the advice in this thread.
Uncertain where to start. Right now I'm allowing myself visual porn, but only of stripteases or less, and no endless scrolling - I find one video and stick to it or stop watching if I get bored.
I would like to move down to vanilla written and audio porn and kick the visual aspect. I also think that'll help enhance my own pleasure since I can imagine myself (especially in audio porn), but I''m being careful not to frame porn as a helpful thing since it may well just be cope. But I also sort of want to take a month break from porn and try and focus on myself for that month, before reintroducing vanilla porn. Have to decide on one.
Thanks for being here nonnas, it's really nice to see that I'm not the only one struggling.
No. 353806
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Well nonnas I did it, I've completely fucked myself over. I'm only able to get myself off by watching these one or two specific hentai clips. Pathetic doesn't even begin to describe it. I guess it's time to reread this thread
No. 353885
I’m not sure I have an addiction, but I definitely have a habit. It’s gotten to the point where even when I’m seeking material out, I’m aware of how mundane it feels, almost like mindlessly scrolling through tiktok or something similar. I’m desensitized to it and am just waiting for something to come up that at least minimally fires off some receptors. Fortunately, I’ve never ventured into anything too depraved or hardcore to try to chase that high. I’d mostly look for female-based stuff, like solo stuff or lesbian, to the point where I thought I might be gay. However, I’m pretty sure even most vanilla hetero stuff just tends to be too grotesque. Now that I’m desensitized, I’m seeing that I’m not really attracted to the women themselves, my brain wiring is just fucked to equate naked female with arousal.
I’ve logged off twitter and Reddit, as these were the platforms it would be too easy to seek out or even stumble
No. 353917
>>353905You’re not fucked up forever, acknowledging the fact that you’re seeking porn as a way of self-harm is a first step to take in order to stop looking for it.
It’s difficult to stop but it’s not impossible, having someone who cares about you is also great tbh. Have you tried going to therapy to deal with what happened back then? Maybe that way you could heal and stop looking for porn in general.
No. 385727
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Well, looks like I relapsed. I've been so proud of not lookin at hentai or real people shit for years straight. I don't even know why I watch them—the moids are hideous and the women go through fucked up scenarios… I don't even masturbate to yet I still get wet to it??? what does this mean?? it I just stare blankly at the screen and think "how did I get here" once it ends. Post-nut clarity hits me like a truck and I fucking hate it. I genuinely wish I was asexual—I don't want to be a slave to my coochie and fantasize about fucked-up scenarios I want to be pure again aaaAAAAAAAAAH.
No. 390364
i have many porn- and sex-related struggles, and i identify a lot with the nonnas posting here. i'm going through a particular slog right now that i guess could be considered superficially humorous/silly but the fact that i'm married (newlywed) makes it a lot more serious and frustrating.
so i was the type of girl who had fictional crushes before i liked any moids IRL. there have been a handful of fictional characters i've gotten stuck on throughout my life, but 2 in particular more intense than the others. one when i was a dorky little middle schooler and then the second one is current. like, ongoing for a while. i think it started several months ago while i was in the midst of enjoying a particular tv series. i wasn't actively trying to invest myself in this character at the time, but after a bit i started to recognize the familiar feeling. idk if you're a husbandofag you know what i'm talking about, it's a weird breed of dull heartache. it's very frustrating just trying to wait it out. i know it will go away eventually, and i'll get over [redacted], but i'm not sure how long it will take. i stopped reading the manga/watching the show to facilitate the process of "recovery" (if you wanna call it that lol) but having been a porn addict prior, the porn has been a lot more difficult to stay away from… like. obviously i love my husband, but we've both previously struggled/are struggling (me) with porn and our sex life is kind of shitty because i'm not even sure we're that physically attracted to each other rn, and this thing with [redacted] definitely playing into my end… i'm just feeling hopeless right now… might go back to journalling so that whenever i start feeling those feelings i have a healthy outlet for them. even just writing this is a bit therapeutic so i think that might be a good place to start.
No. 461966
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Yesterday I got ahold of my old laptop’s hard drive that I hadn’t used in years, and it had over 300gb of porn. What the fuck. I didn’t realize how bad it was at some point and it makes me feel so disgusting and depraved even if that was the old me. Needless to say, I’m here to say I lost all of my progress because I went on a porn binge after that. Sad and pathetic. I deleted all of the porn I could find on my laptop and hard drive after though.
I felt so disgusting after watching it, I don’t know why I did it. Monkey brain, I guess. I did it mindlessly, like a zombie and it has made me so paranoid, because I feel like everyone can tell. Post-nut clarity is a bitch and makes me feel suicidal, but also acts as a punishment and confirmation that deep down, my brain knows and understands how bad it is and that I must stop, because when I masturbate without watching porn, I don’t feel that terrible dread.
I remember reading this thread last year and it was what motivated me to stop watching porn, as far as advice goes, some nonny mentioned de-escalation steps and to use vanilla porn as a stepping stone and it really worked because I went from watching and only being able to get off on violent shit to girls kissing naked. I’d still rather not watch either though. This was my second relapse since, and I hope the last one. I deleted everything.
I don't know what will happen, but I'll try my best to never watch that disgusting shit ever again and I made it my New Year's resolution. I'm posting this to hold myself accountable, as I tend to take things more seriously when I know someone else could read it. I want to be normal so bad.
No. 475458
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Can the effects of pornography ever fully leave your mind? Like many others, I was exposed to it at a very young age. By my late teens, I decided to quit cold turkey because of ethical reasons. For years, I stayed away from it. However, a few years ago, I started watching again. It was mostly driven by self-hatred and/or as a cause of being an unfaithful relationship. Watching porn was mostly to compare myself to the women in those videos, and try to imitate their on-screen mannerisms irl, like some weird, one-sided competition between us.
Despite having quit for years, my thoughts and actions were still shaped by it. Like watching or not watching doesn't matter, and I am still going to be stuck thinking and behaving like some deranged porn-addicted moid regardless. This year, I'm committed to quitting again, for good. I was able to go a few months without it last year, but this time I want to make it last much longer. I've made an active effort of being aware of what my "
triggers" are, and thus avoiding them. I've also decided to stop masturbating, since it became compulsive, and it only frustrates me even more. It's annoying to see myself trapped in this cycle, because I am fully aware of how exploitative harmful the porn industry is. Feel like I am quite the hypocrite.
After writing this I read the medium article some nonas linked above, and it was just what I needed. Fairly motivated now.
https://medium.com/@kittyit/taking-back-your-mind-a-radical-feminist-approach-to-recovering-from-porn-use-8ae9347c3d8f No. 476474
I feel like I'm watching myself and my porn compulsions drag me back into extreme hardcore porn. I really want to take control of my life and stop… again. I hate how the cycle of addiction works and you're always starting or stopping, or maintaining, but that's where I am right now. Starting again. I like masturbating, but my experiences of doing it with and without porn are worlds apart. I think I keep tripping up on the 'why' of masturbating - am I doing it because I want to feel good, or because I want to orgasm? I can recongise that, when it's the latter, I immediately start looking at porn. It's funny because without porn I have a really high libedo, but with porn all I have is empty compulsion.
>>475458We're the same. I was off porn for a really long time after being exposed to it while very young, and having always gone back to it out of curiousity/horniness/loneliness/etc. Self-hatred is a big part of the compulsion for me, and that article makes a really good point about how political awareness isn't a direct fix - a lot of guilt I've felt around this is became I'm so politically aware of how horrible the porn industry is on every level. I feel like this guilt intermingles with the self-harming impulse that comes with watching porn, and suddenly I'm right back in the spiral. Good luck to you, nona.
No. 541921
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Porn has made me desensitized to graphic and violent content towards women I even seek it out, I don't know why my lizard brain does it, I want to kms so bad, worse they're all scroteshit with a male POV as that's what I was exposed to when I was younger. It's so fucked up that feel so disconnected to my own body because of this poison, I know female POV porn exists, but honestly, the vast majority of them are pretty shitty.
I wish I was asexual, I wish I was never born with this desire, to make matters worse I'm a tubrovirgin with no dating experience—even if I were to hypothetically enter a romantic or sexual relationship, the seeds of degen porn that grown over years in my psyche will most likely (nah, definitely) fuck up whatever chances I have of a normal and healthy sexuality and my relationship with said sexuality.
Fuck this. I hate it. I just want to be a vanilla normie—the type people mock for being "boring". I want to be just like them.
No. 542460
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I don’t know what’s wrong with me, but I hate what’s been happening with me lately. Right now, my partner lives in another state, and I guess you could say we have sex over the phone,.it’s something we do from time to time since we can’t see each other in person. But I’ve noticed that lately, the usual stuff isn’t enough for me. I feel this need and desire to talk about other women during our calls. I talk about their bodies and say things that I imagine turn him on.
I’m not interested in women romantically, and definitely not sexually yet every time we have a call, I can’t help myself just to turn him on, I end up sending him pictures of women I know he’ll find attractive. I know he’s not really into this; in fact, he’d rather focus on me and make it clear that I’m the only one who matters to him. But I love provoking him. I like making him imagine things about those women. I’ve even pretended to want them.
But once the call is over, I feel awful. Disgusted, with myself and with him. I delete everything I sent, I just feel gross. I keep wondering what’s wrong with me. I know I have a problem with the objectification of women. I hate that, like so many others, I was exposed to porn from a young age. I feel like it’s messed up the way I see women how I see myself sexually. I’m not even attracted to women. I don’t care about the female body like that. But still, I sexualize them and talk about how much I want them, just to please my partner, I feel such a cuck.
No. 542836
Ever since I can remember I've been getting off to myself in various ways. I was looking up auto-sexuality today and I don't know if I am only attracted to myself but it's manifested in my porn habits. My primary fetish for most of my life was feederism but only on myself, even though it was always a fantasy and never progressed any more than that, but in the last year or so I've started dressing up and making porn of myself and getting off to that. Does that make it better? Or worse?
I feel like watching porn itself isn't that exciting to me, but the act of eroticising myself and objectifying myself is. When I'm fucking scrotes or women I rarely, and I mean RARELY orgasm and you really have to work on me for ages for that to happen. I tell them I lack sensitivity but then when I'm by myself getting off to my home made pornos I'm so aroused. When I'm drawing porn (which I also do) and make comics with characters based on myself I'm also so aroused I can barely finish them. I'll make degenerate art of myself as a fat porn slut and the drawing itself has become part of the gooning.
I think I'm so deep nonas, sometimes I feel so fundamentally sexually broken that a normal sexual relationship with someone feels impossible. I like the idea of vanilla sex, I really do, but it doesn't get me off like doing all of this shit does. Not to mention, it all feels so AGP because I'm dressing myself to look slutty when I make these videos and take the photos. It's become a semi-regular ritual at this point. Sometimes it'll go away and I won't do it for a while (usually if I'm seeing someone) but then I'll go back into it hard and each time I do I grow more and more obsessive.
I'm at the point where I've started to edit the videos and turn them into gooning PMVs and I wonder what'll be the point to cap it. Sometimes I tell myself I'll quit it all and i won't do it again, and I'm able to do so without the craving, and then other times I wonder if it's really that bad of an addiction to have if I'm just using myself and not actively watching (a lot) of porn? I don't know. I want to see a therapist. There's too many layers to this.
No. 542867
>>542460>I’m not interested in women romantically>and definitely not sexually>I’m not even attracted to women.>I don’t care about the female body like thatI’m sorry noona, I will say this as gently as I can but everything in your post sounds like either female latent homosexuality or regression. You want to fuck women with your bf’s dick – either because that’s what you’ve always wanted (latent homosexuality) or because you’re bored, sexually unfulfilled and defaulting to infantile homoeroticism (regression).
>I talk about their bodies and say things that I imagine turn him on>I like making him imagine things about those women>I sexualize them and talk about how much I want them, just to please my partnerYou are not him. You will never be a man. You will never know what the male sexual experience is like in actuality. (In fact he himself tells you how much you are in the wrong about what he wants, since you are the the sex object for him not other imaginary women). The pleasure you feel is you own, disguised through your bf’s POV so you can identify with it at the expense of your own subjective feminine experience. Why you feel the compulsion to do that is up for you to figure out.
If you want to quit this and feel mature sexual fulfilment as a woman you have to mentally give up this third sexualized female entity and realize you ARE it – you are the object of sexual desire for the man. If that annoys or offends you then you’re not with the right partner or you have some internal stuff to sort out. You essentially should want him to want to fuck you and you should want to get fucked by him - if imaginary female bodies are enough to snatch that away from you because it gives you more pleasure then you should ask yourself some difficult questions.
No. 542889
>>542880I disagre, insecurity/jealousy
triggers a strong adrenaline response, and adrenaline is known to enhance libido. Insecurity in the relationship can also lead to a strong desire to bond with your partner to "restore" its status back to normal (hysterical bonding).
No. 542931
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I started watching porn when I was about 8 or 9. I heard jokes about clopping because I was into MLP:FiM and, like lots of people with these kinds of things, wondered what everyone was laughing about. After that it spiralled into porn games, masturbation, doing it at school, etc. When I entered my teens I figured out what r34 was and would ERP with other teens on Amino, and then I ended up on those chatroulette kinda sites. Ended up in an online relationship with a 20-something-year-old-guy when I was 15. By that point shit had spiralled from light BDSM to full on guro. He indulged it, we had phone sex like everyday, and he would buy me food or vidya. It ended when I moved to uni and since then I'd basically fuck a different guy every week, hyper sexual shit, like a rabbit.
Met my boyfriend and stopped watching it immediately. After catching him with some fucked up shit I told him to quit his porn or leave me. Now we're doing long distance I'm falling back into my old ways, like, watching weird shit (weird, not sick like incest or beastiality). I jack off like every night, not even to porn, just out of routine. I feel bad because it's hypocritical but also because I'm against porn morally. He jokes about it "come on Anon, we both know you watch porn" but I can't even laugh about it because I don't want to. I want to stop. If I don't stop, he won't stop, and then it's all fucked up.
No. 571829
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I don't know if I fit into this thread because I don't feel any kind of arousal from pornography. I just feel like I'm dissociating, or like I'm an autistic fucking bot. After it happens, I feel empty and regretful about the time I've lost. This doesn't happen every day or anything, but it feels like an addiction.
Usually, I see someone here, Twitter or elsewhere mention something or someone in the context of internet drama, so I look it up out of morbid curiosity, then end up in a rabbit hole of loosely related, but still morbid individuals and communities. It's almost never "milky", just fucked up, weird or sad. There is literally no pay-off to any of this other than "knowing" of obscure fetishes and fetish communities, or how certain kinds of reprobates hide and advertise their shit. My mind takes in everything I'm seeing and goes "This is a fetish that exists, remember that. This is what enthusiasts say about it, and there are people who pay money for it. Looking at this profile, this person's been active and talking about this since 2012. On further inspection, this other person they've subscribed to has been around since at least 2009 and is posting the same photos with the same gimmick. Weird. Google their username. This is their Flickr account. Here is their YouTube channel. They are from the UK. These videos must have been taken in the late 90s. The person in this other video that that person left a positive comment on has clearly done something evil, "censored" or not, but you have no way of reporting them to the proper authorities because you don't know their name or where they even are, and you probably lack hard enough proof of your assertions for them to investigate. Your only choice is to report their content to the site itself, and hope the staff report them to the authorities (you already know they probably won't, they'll just delete it). The person that uploaded it, even if banned, will almost certainly come back and reupload it, maybe with more censorship to get past filters so they can advertise this sort of content to others, but all you can do is report, pray that all these creators and 'fans' get caught and/or die painfully and try to put the whole thing out of your". If I pull away without following this routine of digging and reporting, it stays in my mind and I feel guilty for not even doing the bare minimum of "finding out". Sometimes, days or even months later, I remember the shit I've learned and feel both miserable and anxious. I don't think there's any political movement that can stop all this shit, I just wish so many people would cease to exist. Many of them don't even have sad backstories, they're just severely low empathy and vile, and there's always more of them. I don't feel like there's anyone I can talk to about these feelings, and there doesn't even really seem to be anywhere I can go to tell people to identify the more obviously abusive/unethical ones and get them jailed. If I had money, a stronger stomach to be able to sit through the full videos to search for clues, and real doxxing skills, I'd attempt to identify them myself and do it, but I just can't. It's already too much. Pulling away after all I've learned feels wrong, but so does learning any more. The only relief I've ever found was one instance where I saw commenters complain that it's hard to find some kinds of content (this was on a censored video of someone I learned went to jail years ago).
Even outside of the more fucked up things, I hate the mindspace of porn commenters, porn "culture" and uploaders. These people don't talk or feel like humans. So many of them actually are going through drug-induced psychosis or something similar, I can't say how many I've looked at the profiles of and found out are straight-up meth addicts. It's all so fucking depressing. I feel guilty making this post, almost like I'm whining that others' suffering from far away is actually victimizing me, but I can't just brush it off. It doesn't make me feel relieved to know it's not happening to me or my loved ones, because it shouldn't be happening at all. I can't save the innocents pushed into this shit, and ignoring it feels cruel too. There's no winning. I don't know.
No. 571867
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has anyone been able to stop being a coomer after almost a decade of being a porn addict? i hate being like this and i feel like it has ruined my sexuality despite me being a virgin
No. 581003
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I've been trying to quit watching porn cold turkey and will want to masturbate but keep running into this issue where I take too long when I don't use my vibrator. I don't want to use it all the time plus I live with family in close quarters so I can't take too long, and I noticed watching porn mitigates this issue as it gives me something to look at while I do it and makes me aroused quicker. However, I keep relapsing from watching "normal" solo male or couple porn from creators posted on here, back into the degenerate porn I watched growing up before I decided to stop. I don't really like what Im looking at in general even if it's regular porn, but will watch it anyways to get the job done.
I try to masturbate only once a week WITH the vibrator but I'll get horny a few days afterwards since I don't continue for as long as I'd actually like to, and then will start the cycle all over again with extreme guilt because I know it's not good to be looking at. I'll sometimes treat masturbating as a general maintainance thing or chore because of it too.
I tried turning to erotica and audio porn but I'll go to the extreme with the content I read or listen to, can't listen to it in the shower, and have discovered many English audio creators are weird people. I'm not sure what to do besides maybe find a partner to have sex with instead…? I was able to stop all masturbation for a month once just to see if I could during lent, but found that it made me frusturated and weirdly adverse to any and all things sexual to the point of unhealthy fear and disgust.
No. 581023
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I keep lasping. I can go for a few months and then I'll starting ovulating like crazy and the only way to satisfy myself is with fucked up deviantart tier porn of extreme weight gain of women. It has to be the rapid kind. Extreme embarrassment and humiliation and the premise of never being normal again. Even when I start feeling normal attraction to men, I can't get myself off to a normal sexual encounter. I keep saving, curating and then deleting GBs of porn. Right now I have 2 GB on my phone and while I delete, I end up saving more from 4chan and elsewhere. I need to get offline forever. I can't really talk about this problem to people or even to chatGPT or else someone will find to and I'll never live it down.