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Starting off with one of my honorary husbandos. I believe he is a Flaboyant Natural with his dramatic height yet broad presence. He might be Soft Dramatic, I saw him types as that on Pinterest. But I see Flamboyant natural.
Also I myself am a flamboyant natural , I’m mostly attracted to men with this body type, they make me feel a little less broad and manly
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Another Flamboyant Natural man #sexy
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Any thoughts on the recent reveals? I kekked when Selena Gomez was revealed to be a TR. it’s caused so much coping on the Kibbe subreddit. People were typing her as dramatic, which really calls into question the general understanding of the system over there
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damn the "phrenology but for the rest of your skeleton" girls made it to a whole new thread. live your truth queens.
>>249758>People were typing her as a Dramatic
Makes sense, Romantics and Dramatics are very similar according to Kibbe>>250548
Yes, just adjust proportions and think about your visual weight and personal vibes>>250554>rock your amazonian woman vibe as a FN
Most FNs aren't even tall nor muscular, stop saying this
soft dramatics are like giant theatrical romantics i guess
it kinda feels like kibbe uses TR as his favorites dumping ground based more on mood sometimes because he is a TR himself and his wife too, though i get where he is coming from when it comes to selena gomez. the TR has become kinda confusing, but then again there really isn't any other body type i could be since the only other option would be romantic but i don't have the face for that
This is such a lazy and false idea. Lisa from Blackpink is very much cute. Anne Hathway legit is typed as FN who got into a shit load of princess movies.>>250548
There are many different FNs I would suggest looking at all the celebrities said to be FN. FN can wear pretty cute clothes that really make them in the girly cute range.
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Even though I read quite a bit about kibbe, I still can’t apply the knowladge on myself. Can you type me and explain why you think certain kibbe family works for me? I’m 5’4 (163 cm)
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What do you guys think Tillian Pearson is? I see Flamboyant Gamine. He is 6’3” but he looks really boyish and cutesy
Thank you. I have been told I don't have kibbe's true hourglass of waspish waist R and TR are supposed to have, the "8" of double curve. Height thing is also confusing, even thought Kibbe tells us how certain types have height limits, he typed Beyonce as R even thought she is 5'6 and Rihanna (5'8) as TR, even synonyms of gamines Audrey (5'7) is above the height "standards". >>250851
Thank you nonna, yes I do feel ok about it, just wish I were a little bit taller.
I think it's mistyping in general. Someone has square shoulders they don't get types the other ones that have similar shoulders it's automatically FN. I see short people being typed as FN and other types that are straight-up only really a tall type. All of a sudden people are claiming height doesn't matter when it does. If you are fucking short you are probably not FN, you are probably FG or SN.
Height is highly important given how you appear vs how tall you are coming with typing and the long limbs are really not a common thing within short. I am not saying there are no short FNs or taller FG. It's just that people don't know what they are doing. Some reason people see a tall petite female she is either D or FN, when other types exist. If someone is small and round automatic R. People are changing the kibbe rules to basically gamines are practically not even being typed as gamines.
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FN is a catchall category because you can technically have curve and width at the same time and true pure Ds are fairly rare since minor to moderate width “balances” height. As an FN myself I feel like I don’t benefit from the system much, at least the ways it’s popularly applied online. I feel like I can pull off a lot of stuff, but most Kibbe people seem to want to shove us in gigantic long billowing sacks and call us better off for it.
Picrel: the amazing, flattering, stylish (online) FN recs at work
>>251081>I see short people being typed as FN and other types that are straight-up only really a tall type
Only R and G have height restrictions, FN and D do not anymore and they admit short people too, Kibbe changed that recently>If you are fucking short you are probably not FN
Most women are SN and FN so actually they tend to be on average height, most women in the FN group were average, we also had the tallest women from the whole group but they weren't a lot>You are probably FG or SN>FG
This is one of the weirdest types, almost as uncommon as D if not weirder>Some reason people see a tall petite female she is either D or FN, when other types exist
Anon, if you're too tall those are the only types you get, that's just how things work for Kibbe, there are no tall SN, R, G or C>>251096
Nta i think anon just posted an example of the "recs" FNs get
You are making the point I am making where FG people and other types like SN are being mistyped because of the change of rule. I don't agree with the change as it seems like he doesn't want to double down on his mistake of mistyping a shit load of people.
Typing should be changed to the average height of that type as characteristic, rather than just giving anyone who has square shoulders FN or D. I find that if a woman is super short, she will not look good in something that is catered towards 5'8+ women. Making anyone who has square shoulders as FN when they probably won't look good in the majority of fashion renders kibbe's whole shit useless.
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Kibbe verified Romantic - Christina Ricci, Dramatic - Keira Knightley (D)
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AYRT, the woman in the pic isn’t an FN. I used it as an example of ugly ass clothing that gets pushed onto FN. like, “that top is tight, it looks rEStRiCtInG!” And “Your skirt is too short, you need to be wearing something LONG and FLOWING” are typical FN ootd critiques, despite neither being against recommendations and FNs being encouraged to wear stretchy tight tops and mini skirts by Kibbe
Picrel: Candice swanepoel (suspected FN) breaking about 1000 online Kibbe rules and maybe 2 actual Kibbe rules, looking good doing it
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like i said before it feels like he goes by vibes alone sometimes like i guess why in pic related christina would give romantic vibes maybe
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Picrel is verified romantic Emma Samms, Candince got no shoulders compared to her kek.
Yes, Enna is quite short but how isn't she frame dominant and at least some sort of Gamine or Natural? What does being a romantic even means?
>>251104>I find that if a woman is super short, she will not look good in something that is catered towards 5'8+ women. Making anyone who has square shoulders as FN when they probably won't look good in the majority of fashion renders kibbe's whole shit useless.
That's where you are wrong: he doesn't dress every FN the same way, every one of them gets exclusive
recs cause every woman is their own version of their ID, some FNa wore dresses with no shoulders, some wore heavy tuxedos, is not the same>>251109Most
people with wide shoulders are Natural, some are not but that's a weird case>>251115
Both Twiggy (5'6) and Audrey (5'7) were literally average, that's not tall, we are talking 5'9 and up
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People are getting typed mostly as FN and SN by default. If they got hourglass, they can only be Dramatic or Romantic.
Jacqueline de Ribes and Audrey Hepburn wear the same clothes and are even seen together but somehow they are not the same type despite their massive similarities.>>251113
They look the same>>251117
That is above average height so yes 164cm is average anything above 5'5 is taller than average>>251133
Audrey is legit almost 3 inches taller than average woman, lmao
AVERAGE woman height worldwide, She is taller than the majority of women in the world which makes her tall.
Only ten countries have an average female height above 166cm average. Either you are from Bosnia, Norway, or the Netherlands.
She is tall
not from any of those countries, more countries have higher female average than that
she is not tall. 180 is actullally tall for a woman
Kibbe talked about Audrey on his group cause a lot of people were asking about her, he said she was at the limit
of Gamine, a very weird case, so yeah he acknowledged it, she's slightly taller than average but not too much, not 5'9 tier>People are getting typed mostly as FN and SN by default.
Because most people are, is just the most common assumption, is like having a common flu but jumping straight to the assumption of being sick with pneumonia, statistically most
people will be Natural>If they got hourglass, they can only be Dramatic or Romantic
Where are you finding these typings? Cause damn, that's not ok at all, r/kibbe?
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Kibbe is not based on your fucking country ffs. Or any country, it is about average body type WORLD WIDE>>251139
My criticism is not on her height but the fact her real life friend I mentioned her name, is built the same yet is not a gamine but a soft dramatic. They wear identical outfits their entire lives. Both look good and are around the same height. Their faces are very similar too. That's my point
>>251140>Kibbe should just specify a height and up
He did for all types, people just ignored it>>251141>Kibbe is not based on your fucking country ffs. Or any country, it is about average body type WORLD WIDE
NTA but please calm down>She's built the same yet is not a gamine but a soft dramatic. They wear identical outfits their entire lives. Both look good and are around the same height. Their faces are very similar too.
D and G have some
similarities as FG is a mix of lines, D and G have narrowness as their main similarity
They legit have the same body type, look at pictures of them and their fashion.
Kibbe is known to be wrong and taking back his typing for live celebrities. Well Audrey is dead
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>>251146>They look the same!
Anon, I'm really
not seeing it
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This is older Audrey Hepburn, she looks slightly different but she still looks softer and not as refined
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Yes the whole point of types is people in that type are similar enough to each other though. Like Anne Hathway's body does not look like Jennifer Lawerence 100%, they have similarities despite being the same type.
You can't really narrow down it by saying shit about noses and smaller differences when you can see that types are supposed to be similar but not identical. Not all FN are the same 100% they are just similar to others.
Kibbe doesn't really consider the face while typing anymore, I was just saying her face imo
looks similar to other Ds, but it doesn't really matter so eh. To be honest, typings can get very tricky and Kibbe sometimes sees things most people (or anyone) won't notice on very similar people, he's just a human so maybe he did make a mistake, I think is agree to disagree.
Kibbe is frustrating because I don't think we can really type people who are dead or he didn't see in person. Kibbe says celebrities lie about heights either being taller or much smaller than given heights.
Kibbe is known for changing rules and taking back typings
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Dropped pic, she looks marvelous
I'm so proud to be a FN. Everything except for frilly stuff pretty much looks good on us. Well, as long as we're skinny kek.
I feel as long as the 2/3s rule is followed the outfit works.>>251130
Her shoulders are extremely broad, but the broadness doesn't extend to her torso or hips.>>251134
Dramatics will NOT have an hourglass figure - what are you smoking lol?
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Yes they can, legit every type has some parts where a woman has a small waist and shoulders and hips ration is very much making an hourglass.
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yes? how is being 3 cm taller than that average especially tall, in my context. like someone is not obese just because they're 5 kilos overweight, sure they're overweight but not a hamplanet. like pic related, this woman is overweight but i wouldn't call her fat you get me
170 cm is taller than average but not like dramatic tall like a woman who is 180/5'9
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Samefag Ive heard Mila Kunis is also a romantic and they both come off as so cutesy and gamine.
Idk if I already posted this, but these are some highlights from the Kibbe group, you require a invitation or something to get in and sometimes it takes forever so might as well post this
>Kibbe doesn't like to type young women (below 40+), he says you should have fun wearing whatever you want, sometimes when I asked something they ignored me because I wasn't really supposed to be there (I was 19 back then)
>There are no subtypes anymore, or at least they're not used as much as they were, just kind of a "spectrum" between drama and softness into the types, when typing me, people told me I was a "natural with notable elongation and a cup-like bust, very dramatic" basically telling me I'm a flamboyant natural
>Kibbe is very annoyed at people/YouTubers confusing people and mudding the waters
>There is a separate men group, but women can't see what is inside as men can't join theirs, for privacy reasons, we got to see a Gamine man tho, he kinda looked like Martin Short
>A lot of women were thirsting after FN men and wondered how they looked, someone even posted that George of the jungle guy kek
>He has to constantly re-explain FN and R to newbies because they keep talking about alyart and merriamstyle
>This being said, he also can stop stressing how "frail" dramatics are, cause apparently newbies thought they were literally just FN 1.0 but nope
>Most women there are older ladies, mostly gen X and boomers, some are millennials and genz tho
>Some years ago a group of newbies registered themselves into the Romantic and Gamine groups, he stepped in and after further examination he sent the 90% of them to the SN group, and the rest to the Classic/FN groups kek
>Your personality, energy, vibes and skintone are going to determinate your aesthetic way more than your ID, there were flowery, girly dramatics, youthful and colorful FNs and monochromatic, modest gamines
>He hasn't typed a single SG irl
>He goes on some hippie, ascended, hypersymbolic shit while talking about IDs, most women there understand what he is saying cause they have been studying kibbe further, but if you're a new you're not going to understand a thing
>Romantics are way less curvy than people think, and FNs can be way, way more curvier than people think
>SDs are almost indistinguishable from regular Ds, same thing with R and TR, he says this is normal cause they're not supposed to vary that much
>small Ds, Rs and Gs are pretty similar
>Kibbe's system is more of a subjective method, is about identity, personal discoveries, "trial and error" and such
>Tho he typed someone in 5 seconds so maybe there's an objective system to an extent
>There are lots, and I mean LOTS of SNs, to the point most members are pretty well versed on how to type them
>As there are lots of SNs cause they're the common type, they're kinda "privileged" by Kibbe, he always hangouts in their group
I'm esl so sorry for any typos i was going to say something about trannies, but those assholes lurk here so I better stfu
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am a soft classic and i want to get this haircut. will it look ok? should i modify it somehow? i know SCs should try to look very 'neat'.
Thirsting after the George of the jungle guy as a FN >>249632
is he not? He’s really broad and flamboyant and tall.
Yeah he is, they sometimes post classic FN actors and models too>>251302
types women as young as 25-30 (max), but he still encourages them to not feel trapped by their ID and have fun and experiment, in the opposite, older women seek for a more specific, modest style and less experiments
It'll look cool as long as it fits in with your overall look. IIRC Kibbe said to worry about your hair last if you're starting to get into your type and only change it once you have the rest of your image in place.
If you're planning on dressing like Grace Kelly every day though, don't get it.>>251302
He does allow people in their 20s in the group. He only refuses outright to type women under 25-ish.
From what I see, romantics are supposed to have )( this sort of waistline and I have >< which means I have yang bones? Does this make me some sort of a Natural? >>251166
If you have a longer vertical, maybe SC? I know Classics are supposed to be moderate, but every modern example in on the taller side. >>251280
Thank you nonna, what do you think my kibbe ID may be?
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Any chance you can still be Gamine with big boobs? Literally everything about my appearance fits the type except that im a C cup, ffs i even get compared to audrey tautou face wise semi-constantly.
It seems like such an obvious typing then but then the boobs get in the way.
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Jennifer love hewitt has nice boobs and ass, she is officially typed as Flamboyant Gamine, so my guess is yes you can be.
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by frilly i don't mean like full blown strawberry dress shit but like pic related, first dress being more romantic and second more theatrical romantic
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What is Atsushi’s type
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Flamboyant Natural or dramatic? I do see broadness but my limbs are really long compared to my head. I also find it hard to dress because I only look good in my pajamas.
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what am I?
I think FN. Your body type reminds me of a friend that I'm 100% sure is a FN.>>252183
Flamboyant Natural for sure>>252177
Dramatic, you look elongated, i drew your figure and it looked kinda like a long vessel
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dropped pic, these are just personal observations tho
The later, Kibbe can detect IDs even after surgeries, weight and
you're right in that we should expect it but influencers and literal whos on an imageboard are different. Like if we started cataloguing pics of half naked redditors from fitness subreddits, for the sole sake of archiving them, that would be weird.
Idk if men and women are inherently different in this or what but it's kind of like how we don't post randos in the attractive people threads, even though there's no rule against it, because it's understood to be creepy and uncomfortable, while it's normal on 4chan
sorry doublepost but>ask him to remove your picture
do not do this, because it won't work, but especially do not message him from your kf account because then he will definitely publicly associate your picture with your profile. Pretty sus of you to even suggest this tbh
I'm not a kiwifag and never used the website so I apologize. I thought he'd remove if asked because doesn't it have legal consequences?>>252314
Posting pictures on a website doesn't mean it's ok for retarded incels to compile, post and comment on them, retard. Also the pictures were all good so it made them seethe and they tried so hard to figure out how users here were feminists or femcels when they looked this good, which further proves how retarded men are.
I'm sorry but you sound like the retard. KF and null are untouchable. After the Christchurch shooting some New Zealand government officials asked null to take the video down and he told them to get fucked.
And no it doesn't make it ok but the entire point is that what you post on the internet is fair game. LC is no different, even if we aren't as bad as KF
nta but no, it's not illegal. Even if they were actual nudes, which they weren't, anons posted them willingly on a public website, so there's no law against sharing them. That doesn't make it any less gross obviously>the political video isn't illegal
it actually was illegal in New Zealand, i think for promoting hate/violence/terrorism or something like that. kf is hosted in the us so they couldn't do anything about it
Do you leave your home or car unlocked because theft is not okay? I'm sure you don't. >>252314
is right, LC users should know better than to post their selfies on here considering what goes on on our own /snow/ boards.
>doesn't it have legal consequences?>Posting pictures on a website doesn't mean it's ok for retarded incels to compile, post and comment on them, retard.
You reek like a newfag
I'm not a newfag for telling you those moids could've been distributing cp or porn of unwilling women. A woman can tape herself and give to her bf but when he distributes it without het consent, its illegal. It's also super weird. You saying it's not weird for kiwis to search the whole website and save tens and tens of pictures of women so they can post them to talk about how shocked they're that these women are incels… Are you a kiwifag who got triggered
women here find you weird for collecting nonsexual nude pictures to autistically analize on your little website?
Anon are you really this dense? It doesn't matter if it's technically illegal or not, it doesn't matter if it's weird or not, anyone posting their bodies here should've known better because the risk that moids from KF or 4chan would take the pics and laugh at them is very obvious! They don't care if it's legal or not, have you never seen moids spam CP here? You know the actual tragic CP featuring little girls forced to perform sexual acts, not the "well the young woman who voluntarily posted her clothed body here could be 17 therefore it could technically be CP!!". THEY. DON'T. CARE.
>You saying it's not weird
Never said that.>Are you a kiwifag who got triggered women here find you weird for collecting nonsexual nude pictures to autistically analize on your little website?
You must be retarded if you think the kiwifags are triggered
by women they used as laughing stock calling them weird. They're probably laughing even harder now considering someone as dense as you is going well akshually it's weird and illegal!!
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Is Edward furlong a gamine?
Eh they're jealous. The scrotes who post on kiwi are unattractive, fat and autistic so when they see attractive thin women who probably have easier time dating, finding friends, etc. They get jealous like any incel gets jealous of a woman or thinks women live life on easy mode. Their femcel theory of this website being filled with unloveable women and the reason they're feminists being their ugliness also got proven wrong so they're doubly confused and upset. >>252526
asks why it's weird.
I have no idea how that place works or where to find last posts. From what you say sounds my hatred for men is valid
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I just googled “kiwi farms lolcow.farm “ I’ve used the site before but it is hard to navigate. This is pretty much all they said.
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This is >>252224
who posted 14 pictures from the previous body type thread. Besides who cares if some kiwi farms people call us average or say we’re humblebragging. All of this pales in comparison to the anon in the last thread who was accused of being a troon
Isn't this user a mentally ill faggot?>>252864
Women here are above average while incels are below average mentally and physically. That anon was thought to be a tranny because her room was very messy and her outfit didn't fit kibbe ruling rules while also being a bit inappropriate/alt(?). Her body wasn't masculine and no one thought she was a male because of her body, a tranny would wish to look like her.
Masculine features =\= male
but I do agree anons said she could be male based on her bone structure.
I'd still argue the fattest and anachanest farmers are still leaps and bounds more sane than the average Kiwi.
They are unattractive too and I would not have sex with them.
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>>252903>Her body wasn't masculine and no one thought she was a male
That's not true nonna.
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I can never figure out what my Kibbe type is, so I traced an image of myself and am posting it here. I'm 170 cm tall/weigh 58.9 kg, and have a pretty rectangular body (I've tried losing and gaining weight, this is always my shape). Measurements are around 34/27/37. I'm thinking that I might look better if I lose a little weight, maybe I could have a more elegant look. What do you all think as far as my Kibbe type?
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>>252903>no one thought she was a male because of her body
It's crazy to me that this has been lied about like twice, as if we can't all look at the thread. Even as it was happening in that same thread, some anons tried to deny it. Why? >>>/g/242789>>>/g/241533>>>/g/241533
Some posters here just call women trannies for no good reason. One accused her of wearing a corset, so I know a good chunk of it is literal delusion and/or jealousy
Sorry i quoted you by mistake>>253085
Then why are you angry if you did nothing wrong? also there were like 2 people trying to defend anon, most were shitting on her you can scroll up and see by yourself
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What would my kibbe type be? Sorry for the bad quality, hopefully you can still judge without my calves and feet. I live alone so I had to take a mirror selfie except I don't have a floor-length mirror so I had to use my window. I'm 174 cm (5'8) for reference. Does my height make me automatically a dramatic? When I gain a little weight it gives me a soft pear shape so I think I have more yin than yang - or does being think and tall automatically make me yang?
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I am a flamboyant Natural and I would like style recommendations that don’t look like they belong to a 50 year old mom.
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What is Lean Beef Patty? Classic?
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Can any scholar of kibbe tell me why Allison suits the style on the left so much more than on the right?
>>255861>is Aly Art's advice legit?
No, at all>>255922
Her proportions are the longest I've seen itt, also lots of types are short too not just gamine and romantic
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I’m just stocky, I’ve been told I look short from far away, oddly. I think I have sort of the same build as Alexandria Dadario, (goals)she is FN.
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What type do you think I am anons? I feel like it's really hard to find things that look good on me, I feel like nothing fits me. I'm 164 cm and 53 kg (it was 50 kg not so long ago but it was still hard to find clothes that look good on me). Also my face is very neotenous.
btw please recommend exercises to make my ass and thighs smaller kek, or just more in shape, I don't even have to lose weight, just be more toned
I wonder if it's possible to figure out kibbe type through the process of elimination. This is what I know:
>cannot pull off extra straight, smooth, or slicked backed hair styles at all, results in a potato head look
>can't pull of straight cut clothing either, also too uncomfortable in stiff fabrics but also look ridiculous in flowy fabrics, sensual looks, etc.
>in terms of 'vibes', usually perceived as "innocent/sensitive/looking shy/scared/sad all the time" (even though I'm not always like that), described as 'cute' when it comes to compliments
i guess that would fall into the ingenue essence type but none of the recommended clothing appeals to me in the slightest
>all gamine clothing looks too clownish and tight, natural styled clothes are too large and I hate the patterns, vibes associated with those are also complete opposite from mine (same goes for the other types too really but mostly these)
Honestly literal pjs and hoodies feel like the only things that work lol, and I can't tell how long/short/wide my own body parts are below the neck, even looking at pics of other women's bodies I can barely notice any differences between them.
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Brendan Fraser (FN) looks kinda off with short hair that is swept back. Still one of the most beautiful men ever, just not his look because as >>255854
says naturals look better in looser looks, he is an ideal wild sexy man
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Vs him with long wavy hair
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what would you call this haircut though?
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>>259107Are you the lesbian from the Brendan Fraser thread?
90s curtain haircut
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which kibbe type can pull off an outfit like this?
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I know Gamines are the ones who get told they look best with short hair but I think romantics are also hot with short hair. Picrel is Fairuza Balk
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Helena Bonham Carter, another romantic
Maybe it’s because romantics are small too? I remember when I cut my hair I was hoping it would look like >>260648
I’m FN and I looked like a man
Any yin type could look really good in this (SC, SN, SG, R, TR) maybe DC or FG as well.>>260646
I’m R and I really liked short hair on me. I think the reason it’s given as advice for gamines is because of how much it pulls their whole look together. Like twiggy or Liza Minnelli or Audrey Hepburn would lose their star power if they’d grown their hair out, but Elizabeth Taylor (for example) didn’t need her short hair for her image to work.>>260626
Sounds like D or maaaaaybe FN to me. Maybe watch films with differently typed celebrities and see who you resonate with
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Sorry nonnies, I know it's hard without any photos of me, but what haircut would you recommend for a TR with a soft square face?
I wouldn't say I'm baby faced but I get told I look youthful sometimes and some people typed me as soft gamine when they only saw my face. I also hear that I look sad and/or serious when my face is relaxed
>naturally straight/wavy hair depending on the day
>look older (matronly?) and plain with straight bangs
>look younger without bangs but imo it doesn't look good and makes my face wider
>looked best (imo) with side bangs with half of my forehead showing but they're impossible to keep up with and turn into straight bangs eventually
>shorter hair (like shoulder lenght) looks more flattering on me (I've been growing out my hair but I decided to cut it soon because I kind of drown in it)
I struggled with hair all my life because I'm awful at styling it and don't want to spend hours every morning to get ready
I've got a similar face shape to Twiggy but a bit wider, hope this doesn't come across as pretentious but my face has the same outline and I couldn't find other similar pictures
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Confused anon here, turns out I really was a D this whole time and I've been having the worst style moment of my life trying to force myself into baggy shit and soft glam/'''natural''' makeup just because that's what's currently in fashion. So much of what works for me, like tight pants, darker makeup, sharply arched eyebrows, pointed toes on shoes, tailored fits, etc. just isn't in right now, and in trying to avoid looking dated I went the completely wrong direction for my body type and general vibe. What really confirmed it for me is that Classic-styled outfits like the one on the left (which I unfortunately have several variations of in my closet) just make me look tired and frumpy, but adding sharper, structured elements like in the Dramatic version on the right suddenly makes the same outfit look much more stylish and put-together on me.
Keep yourself well groomed and clean, as this anon said >>262388
ether make accent on your breasts or legs, it will distract people.
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Charlie Manson is a gamine.
Curtain bangs are still popular right now and might work well for you. Keep the length above your collarbone and try for layers so you can get movement and volume. Avoid a full on shag though, it’ll probably clash with the rest of your look.>>261856
Goldie Hawn is flat chested. Iirc the SN clients kibbe has had recently weren’t notably busty either. He allegedly doesn’t consider bust size when it comes to type, only the overall silhouette.>>262512
SN are more curvy, FN are elongated. SN can’t be over about 5’6”, FN can be any height. The main difference in clothing for them is that SN outfits need to show off your waist and generally follow the contours of your body more closely. FNs are usually told to look for things that form a T shaped silhouette I think.
He doesn’t give any suggestions for butch women, but he actually wrote a style guide for men using the types. I’m sure you could find it by searching Reddit or something.
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Thank you for answering! I think I'm FN rather than SN then. Some people elsewhere guessed I might be SN, but I'm a bit too tall and I'm not curvy (in the sense of flesh) at all. The only yin I have is in my lips and hands (both E), the rest are all B and A answers. While I'm stocky and perceive myself as very broad, the first thing other people notice is how I look way taller irl than I actually am due to tiny head and long limbs. I think it's possibly why I gravitated towards dressing gnc in the first place, besides being a sperg. I'll try to make do with what styleguides I can find for men I guess.
Update : I am losing weight+body recomp and building muscles, I feel like I can pull off way more things now.
Also what type do you guys think is best for pulling off an emo look? Gamines?
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It’s fine if you don’t like oversized things. They’re not required or anything. The real keys for FNs from what I understand are avoiding things that are super structured OR small scale and delicate. You also want to emphasize your height/elongation and shoulders. Also, remember that FNs are not inherently wide or masculine or anything. There are a ton of gorgeous FNs out there and they can pull off lots of different styles. Pic related is a girl from Reddit whose outfits I thought were really cute and flattering.>>263173
Anyone who’s skinny tbh
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Yeah it seems a difficult balance to keep for FN's, but I've gotten some monochromatic stuff with varying textures (but not shiny), because that supposedly works well. No busy patterns, casual, just keep it simple stupid. Picrel, the recommendations Kibbe has for Natural scrotes.>Also, remember that FNs are not inherently wide or masculine or anything. There are a ton of gorgeous FNs out there and they can pull off lots of different styles.
Yeah I know there are lots of beautiful feminine FN's, but I'm NOT one of them kek. The moment I wear anything feminine, I look like an AGP. I have to keep my hair short, can't wear make-up, everything has to be a masculine cut, one wrong move and I look like Honter. My facial features are already very strong and overwhelming, anything added looks trashy/tranny-ish. So feminine styles or anything are really really out of the question for me personally. I used to think I'm maybe intersex with how fucking bad it is, the only feminine things about me are hands, feet and lips, the rest is really cursed. I've got linebacker shoulders and a barrel ribcage, I measured it actually and it's in between what is normal for women and scrotes, I just don't fit anywhere. I managed to make it look a little bit less drastic by gaining muscle, which helped fill in my bonestructure a bit more, but I've got serious upperback width. People would unironically ask me whether I'm a TiM or have some sort of illness when I would wear women's clothes only and had longer hair. I have to wear very masculine things so it emphasizes my feminine features by contrast. Despite the wideness, me looking taller than I am is still the first thing people mention, due to the tiny head and long limbs. I'm great for sports and physical activity, but I'm not pretty to look at or gracious in any way shape or form. At least with short hair and masculine clothes, the comments range from "teenage boy" to "looking like a model", instead of being compared to TiM's. I really never fucking want that again and I can never unsee it.
It's not about the type, for as long as I can remember, any women's clothing makes me look like a troon. Make-up makes me look like a troon. Women's clothing is shaped trapezoid, so everything is too tight in the upperback/arms and extremely loose in the waist. It looks comical, which is partially why I started wearing men's clothes. I'm 5"6 but people guess I'm 5"9 due to long limbs and tiny head and I'm described as being built like a shit brick house, no matter whether I'm overweight, underweight or normal weight. The inverted triangle is caused by my bonestructure. I'm not a "fresh and sensual" SN with curves and soft flesh everyone tries to type everyone as. I'm an inverted triangle with a flat broad chest (stays fairly flat no matter my weight), long dangly limbs which fairly easily gain muscle. Don't gain fat on hips, just thighs. Some tiny hands and feet don't change all that and doesn't suddenly mean I have a fuck ton of "yin" to the point it's SN. Since face doesn't count, my lips shouldn't even matter, but they're definitely countered by my big sharp schnoz, masculine eyes and big ass square jaw. Trying to look feminine in any way shape or form just puts all the attention on how mannish everything is.
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Im also closest to FN and like masculine clothing. Some stuff I found suits me:>thick, stiff fabrics>a bit oversized dress shirt with slim/straight pants, shirt tucked in, (makes my big upper body look nice)>blazers unbuttoned, highest buttons in shirts open>big patterns, as long as color is not too bright>leather that is not shiny, one of my favorite clothes is big brown leather jacket>having messy/fluffy hair softens caveman features a bit
I'll check it out. I kinda automatically feel resistance because I don't feel classic in any way, but the weightgain patterns match, I feel safest in my suits at work and face could fit. It might seem like I hate my squarish face or sharp and big features, but I also wouldn't want to get and never considered surgery, because they are balanced in its own way, any change would make everything off-balance.>>263494
See how you feel after everyone tinfoiling since puberty that you're an AGP troon or have an endocrine disorder, which might be possible because I managed to grow 4cm as an adult. I'm also really annoyed that masculine is seen as an insult and whenever I try to talk about these things, people think they're being assuring by going "but you can still be feminine!" no it's just annoying. It reminds me of hairdresses who will cry and take it personally when I want to keep my hair short. I'm trying to embrace myself with the masculine broad frame and lack of tits I got, I don't need to be memed into thinking it's still uwu feminine. There's nothing wrong with natural female masculinity. It's also not just about a masculine aesthetic, I need men's clothes, because my shape isn't found in the women's section. The women's section has clothes shaped like a trapezoid, a triangle, with lots of room for boobage, but no room for shoulders, meanwhile I'm a flat inverted triangle. I don't like oversized shit from the women's section either, because it still follows the trapezoid rule. The sleeves will hang over my hands (I don't need an arigato grande moment), meanwhile my shoulders will still be bursting at the seams. When you try a size up, it's like only the waist gets bigger and everything else stays the same size. I can't even find anything at the women's section which will at least fit the shoulders and then could take it to the tailor to get the length right, because it just doesn't exist (anymore?). Vintage/secondhand clothing doesn't seem to have this problems as much, women used to be allowed to have shoulders apparently. I'm also not a purse person, never have been, so I actually need proper pockets.>>263695
Thanks for the tips!>a bit oversized dress shirt with slim/straight pants, shirt tucked in, (makes my big upper body look nice)
I like the look too sometimes, but do you never feel like it makes arms look scrawny when they're short sleeved? I don't think I can get my bis and tris big enough to fill it in.
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If you are below 5'7 (168~cm) then you might be a gamine too. Audrey Hepburn is one despite being taller than average. People often give FN to everyone but it is overtyped.
There is a shitload of gamines that look taller than they are. I get gamine's heights wrong all the time.
Anytime someone mentions they don't look good in FN clothing I think of FG who look great in oversized clothing and don't look amazing in typical FN dresses. Liza Minnelli looks at her in a dress vs a suit.
You compare Liza to an FN and you can see a very clear difference.
>>263785>do you never feel like it makes arms look scrawny when they're short sleeved?
Yeah I actually prefer ones with long sleeves, or wear a jacket or cardigan on top of short sleeved ones. I live in a cold country so I almost never have to expose my noodle arms.
Also true, people should stop forcing femininity on those that do not feel comfortable with it. This is one reason we see so much young women trooning these days.
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what kibbe type would you say i am? my guess is some kind of classic, though i’m still holding on to a sliver of hope that i‘m a natural. i’m 5’4 or 162 cm (around average height here)
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You look a little bit smaller than your height, I’d say soft gamine
Sorry if this is stupid (came from the stupid questions thread kek) but is it possible to figure out your base type by measurements (height, bust, waist, hips), how fleshy you are and proportions? I mean without any pictures (I'm slightly paranoid someone might recognize my clothes or be turned to scrote jerking material, that's why). I'm 163 cm and my measurements are 34-27-40, I am quite soft especially in the face (big round eyes, chubby cheeks, wide nose, thick lips and quite youthful, though I'm only 19 so that's not very odd lol. From the side I have a quite prominent nose though, think Turkish nose). I do have quite boney/angular shoulders, and pretty thin arms (especially my lower arms) compared to the rest of my body. The clothes that suit me best are either formfitting or very loose (I usually go for a tight tank top+baggy pants or a figure-hugging dress). My hair suits my face best when it has a bit of wave to it, I always curl my bangs under and sleep with a twisted bun. Super tight (slicked back or parted) styles look weird on me, but I don't know if that's because it doesn't suit my personal style much or because its too tight/geometric for my face. Again, sorry if this is dumb but I can't figure it out for the life of me, I think I'm a romantic but I have some gamine characteristics as well (I look shorter than I am, thin arms, short-ish).
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What is he nonas?
His head seems big and his shoulders are a little bit sloped so FG?
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I don't look good with like super sleek hair but some strands like picrel looks amazing on me and I've had people tell me that my hair looks better pulled back. Is that normal for a Gamine? I look a lot younger/cuter with short hair.
ntayrt but have you looked into essence? you sound very similar to me and i have primarily dramatic and classic essence to my face (which is kinda sharp and pointy looking) so patterns don't look great on me either.
what looks good on me, maybe it'll help you:
- short hair, you can try a long bob. short hair makes me look younger/youthful personally
- gamine cuts like mini skirts, slightly cropped pants, constructed types of tops
- basic french girl style
- everything of the above in simple colors, you can colorblock but extreme patterns like marimekko will overwhelm the face
- simple makeup, if i wear prominent eyeliner i look best with noticeable lipstickto balance the look (not a gamine thing, but more 'classic' essence)
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Does anyone else feel like the Kibbe Reddit is low key stupid like they call anyone with shoulders a soft natural. They don’t even consider length or anything. I think the girl who plays Starlight is an obvious gamine, but people on Reddit were saying she’s too tall (5’6”) but how come Emma Watson is a gamine at 5’6” and what about Audrey Hepburn? Her shoulders aren’t even wide, people on Reddit think any width up there is maculine yang swimmer body
>>283477>>283479>>283472> it seems like no one else knows what’s going on either.
Sage for rant & tinfoil but I'm honestly convinced a big part of this "system" is some sort of scam, at least nowadays. All approved "resources" are either nebulous and useless or straight-up contradictory. Selena Gomez being typed as TR by Kibbe himself was the nail in the coffin to me. It really felt like he was insulting our intelligence with that kek.
No one can accurately type you except for Kibbe himself (and only in person for multiple thousands of dollars). There are no proper guidelines on how to type yourself, all the ones on Youtube are apparently wrong and misrepresentative. There are no approved guidelines on how to dress. Literally none. They just tell you to wear whatever the fuck you want. You tell them you're a SN and ask what might look good on this body type, and they literally reply with "idk figure it out". "Lines" as they are often called are not a thing. So what is the purpose of al this? To feed his pockets?
Not to mention how cult-like those Facebook groups are. Like you're not allowed to question anything
or they'll kick you out lmao
I especially love when someone asks what sort of clothes fit certain type and the answer always is>clothes don't have a type! wear anything just accomodate your lines!
and right after you leave your suggestion>oh no no no no no, this will look awful on your broad shoulders and will restrict your fridge body!
I'm new to the Kibbe archetypes and did the quiz yesterday. My results were all over the place with my bone structure being 1B, 2A, 3C and 4D which messed up a lot for me. For body flesh I was overwhelmingly D answers and facial features mostly B. I had a few A's and C's in facial features as well, some C's and one E (bust) for body flesh, and ended up with the conclusion that I should be Gamine due to the very even mix of D and B. Except I am 5'8" and an hourglass with a tiny waist… which might point to Theatrical Dramatic, except I'm not petite. I have big facial features (jaw, nose, eyes, brows) accompanying my small slender hands and feet, I have sharp narrow shoulders that stay that way whether I gain weight or not. I always have big boobs and a waspish waist. My hips are sharp and if I lose weight the bones jut out and I frequently get stuck on door handles and similar because they poke out of my body. (Same with elbows when skinny.) If I understand it correctly I have a lot of Lush Yin to me with a few Petite Yin details offset by a lot of Soft Yang and a bit of Sharp Yang. Could I still be a TD or a Gamine, or can anyone help me figure out which direction I should head in?
Based on your height, if you stick 100% to Kibbe's theory (not everyone does), you can only possible be natural, flamboyant natural, dramatic or soft dramatic.
Theatrical dramatic isn't a type, did you mean Theatrical romantic? Have you looked at soft dramatic? It fits your height and it was the romantic/yin undercurrent you speak of.
Personally I think the theory isn't perfect and some people just don't fit any of the categories well (which makes sense, doesn't it, there's billions of people and 13 categories, with that many people there's bound to be outliers) or you're mistyping yourself. It's not easy to look at yourself objectively and you're not seeing the same thing in the mirror as people around you do.
Thank you so much!
Yes, I meant Theatrical Romantic, I'm sorry.
I looked a bit closer at the types and like you said Soft Dramatic might be more me. While I am a curvy hourglass I come off as "pointy" in my limbs, and my joints are very skinny and angular. My ex once said "your body is so soft… but you're so SHARP" after leaning into my chest and getting poked by one of my shoulderblades, and I think that's a rather good description. Soft but sharp.
I have very small hands, and I'm very hourglass-shaped as previously mentioned, but other than that Soft Dramatic seems to fit me well and some deviation seems to be allowed.
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Why is all the Dramatic outfit inspiration/advice so…expensive? Don't get me wrong, I'd love to cut about in heavyweight wools and couture dresses but I'm a uni student on a budget. Picrel is a particularly egregious example. It feels like the other types get much more wearable suggestions, but Ds get runway looks and that's it.
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I have no idea what Kibbe I am (tried to do the test but it was too long and I got bored)
All I know is I have a typical ‘hourglass’ body with wide hips and big boobs but people tell me I suit baggy, edgy and tomboyish clothing like pic rel the most, and I also agree, which is confusing. This makes me think I must have some ‘yang’ or butch energy about me but I don’t really feel like I do.
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Body measurements don't matter that much with Kibbe's system, and he himself said the test isn't that useful if it's your first introduction to his system. The terms 'flesh' and 'frame' are confusing: flesh determines how much your fat/muscle influences your shape and frame how much your bone structure does. However, the way your body looks on its own is less important than how it makes clothes look. You can be a conventional hourglass by measurements but still be a Dramatic or a Flamboyant Natural, even though those are the 'yang' types. In picrel, both right and left are hourglass-shaped but Shirley Maclaine (Flamboyant Natural) on the right has much more prominent hipbones than Elizabeth Taylor (Romantic) on the left. Kibbe uses some loaded terms for certain body types but the point of his system is to find what clothes make you look and feel your best, not to shove your body into a category. If you suit boxy, boyish looks with lots of fabric, you may be a Flamboyant Natural. Florence Welch, Nicole Kidman, Princess Diana, and Sarah Jessica Parker are all FN, so there's a lot of variation and femininity in that type even if it's maligned in Kibbe communities.
probably like billie eilish
she's so curvy but suits the bratty butch look much better than the marilyn monroe styling
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Nonna I have no fucking clue about Kibbe myself and I wouldn't consider this all really masc, but this is what others have said is some masc stuff for romantics. In general the recommendations kibbe gives for women don't go well with gnc stuff. I ended up reading the recommendations for men with the same type I have and trying to adapt them to me.
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okay, so I got into kibbe, specifically reading r/kibbe. I admit I don't really understand what accommodating for 'petite' and 'curve' means exactly, but reading over it and the recommended solutions for them, I think I'm a SG. I find Kibbe more useful if you read about how to accommodate to balance,vertical,width etc and deciding if you need to accommodate them, rather than individually looking at each type's description and sussing out whether or not you fit it
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If anyone has a moment and would like to help, can you confirm my Kibbe type?
If I'm understanding picrel, I am SG. I am 5'0" (is my weight needed? A lot of the Kibbe page says to disregard weight but if it's relevant I will reveal).
I wish I could post a photo my body here, but hell no kek. Thanks for reading!
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Double post but I look good with short hair. I can't really describe my style- I wear a lot of oversized t-shirts and boots with leggings or skinny jeans. I think
I have a playful and youthful style- for example these are my most recent purchase, which imo are playful as hell (I don't live in a southern state, I feel that is relevant because cowboy boots are not the norm here) because of the wideness of the shaft- reminds me of rainboots which are whimsical and fun imo. Plssss pls plssss no boolie I can't take it I will cry real tears
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i just realized veronica lake is 4'9 but still typed as a SC…yet people claim SCs (and classics in general) can't be short. i guess they give veronica a pass since she looks taller at a first glance and wears heels? i thought she was a TR, her bone structure seems delicate and her vibe suits it.