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No. 378181
Not everyone can be beautiful, and for some, even "average" is out of reach. If that sounds like you, how are you coping in this looks-obsessed world?
I'm reviving this thread series since the last one has long since closed and I think it's a topic a lot of women could use a place to vent about.
Previous thread:
>>>/g/114320 No. 378264
>>378261I 100% relate to wearing whatever I want because I'm hideous anyways. I look put together, Im undesirable. I look messy, Im
gasp undesirable. Same difference. I do the bare minimum and nothing else.
No. 378700
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>>378181I have an incredibly long philtrum and no lips and a 6 head and I am completely hideous. Other unconventional traits individual people might still find attractive, like a big nose, or thick eyebrows, but absolutely no one is attracted to someone with an grandma-level upper lip. In school people would harass me by pretending to ask me out and then laughing in my face in a mob. I know that I will never find love because there is no woman on earth who could want to kiss my face. I feel like I’m living in a level removed from the world of others. I don’t make any friends because I can’t relate to normal people who have partners or go out clubbing. Their relationship woes and adventures just make my eyes glaze over. That sort of thing is not in my realm.
I used to think I could live with this for life, but after I feel for someone hard for the first time, I realized what I was missing and now I can’t fathom continuing to live much longer. Sometimes I find myself wishing the world would end so I wouldn’t have to kill myself and upset my family who loves me very much (unfortunately).
No. 378804
>>378700Aw
nonny, I'm pretty ugly too especially with my hooked large nostrils and I personally am much more attracted to uglier women because I feel like they're much more genuine to be around with. I know that there's a larger amount of people who are trusting of attractive people but non attractive WOMEN are the very best to me. You are very loved and inevitably everyone's looks will fade so there's no need to solely latch on to that idea. What's helped me was watching love on the spectrum kek to give me some fuel that both ugly and mentally impaired people can, so can I.
No. 382508
I know I was being extremely dramatic in
>>375519 but I've been thinking about the girl who recoiled from me every day since it happened. I've seen some ugly people and I've never had the urge to recoil from them, wtf.
No. 382905
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it's hard to accept that no one is ever going to be genuinely attracted to you, in the same way you would not be attracted to anyone who looked like you. The common advice is to "date your own level" but when you get to a certain point on the ugliness scale, it's kind of impossible to feel actual attraction to your ugliness-level peers. If I could just make myself be attracted to fellow ugly people I would, and it seems like a lot of people are able to do that, or else maybe they're just in cope relationships where there's no real attraction but at least they won't be lonely. I can't do that though.
When normal-looking people talk about how great it feels when you experience mutual attraction, it makes me want to tear my face off because I know that is a feeling I will never experience.
No. 383058
Am I the only one who for some reason always expects to see myself differently THIS time I look in the mirror? Logically I know I’m ugly, I’ve been told my whole life, and I can clearly see it too, but for some reason I still stare at myself in the mirror hoping to see myself as at least average, maybe from this angle, maybe if I think about this feature differently, maybe if I squint, etc. Of course no matter how many times I stare at myself in the mirror I will never magically turn out to have been average all along. So why do I keep doing it?
Tangent, but I would take any other ugly feature over the one I have. You can work with most ugly features, or there may be someone who likes that feature, but not with the one I have. It’s universally considered ugly, it’s how all old or ugly characters are drawn. It’s a characteristic of the elderly— and I’m already ugly enough as a young person, I am scared to death of his this feature will inevitably get worse and worse over time.
I wish I had never woken up to the harm of the plastic surgery industry as a teen— if I hadn’t, I would have gotten plastic surgery by now and been so much happier, a totally different person.
No. 383107
>>383099Is it because it would give you too much teeth/gum show? Tbh I wish that was the case for me so I didn’t have to agonize over this— I’m actually a perfect candidate since I have no teeth show right now. But I just can’t bring myself to do it because I’d feel like such a vain hypocrite, I’m always preaching about how evil the plastic surgery industry is, I can’t just ignore or go back on that. It just sucks so much because I know it would completely fix my appearance. That, and it would feel fake to me, like anyone who became attracted to me would never have been attracted to my natural real self, which feels fucking awful.
The other reason stopping me is the fact my mom has the same feature and would take serious offense if I got it fixed. But the thing is it doesn’t look as bad on her due to her nice nose, mine is upturned an only makes it look worse and more animalistic. If you have what I have then I’m sorry. It’s really the worst, no redeeming qualities at all.
No. 383158
Hurts extra bad because I actually had a taste of beauty before, but I didn’t appreciate it. I used to be a beautiful teenager with zero effort. I had clear skin despite not showering often, I was thin despite eating junk, my hair was short in a tomboyish way. I wasn’t even taking advantage of this beauty, I was seen as “mysterious” when in reality, I was a socially anxious mess who only dressed in baggy clothes and hoodies. I turned 22, and it all went bad. My face got super bloated, my metabolism slowed down, and my hormones started giving me acne, stretch marks, and joules. I gained weight because I was used to eating whatever and nothing happening, but my fat distribution is weird, I don’t have fat arms or legs, my chest and butt are small, but I’m getting a belly that sticks out, my proportions are terrible. I’m currently trying to reverse the effects of my years of bodily destruction, but it’s harder than I thought it’d be. I’m waiting for my hair to grow out, so my joules are better hidden. I have a skin care routine, and I’m losing weight, but I used to be in the 110 pound range, and I’m currently in the 150 range. This is an improvement though, 4 months ago I was 170
No. 383439
>>382508I understand how you feel anon. It’s the worst when people have to make you aware of how repulsive looking you are. I’ve told this story before, but when I was a senior high school two freshman cheerleaders came up to me out of nowhere to tell me “we just wanted to tell you that you’re really pretty” and it was the most humiliating thing that has ever happened to me. Everyone sitting near me looked down at their desks trying not to cringe. The girls were probably too young to see how they came across and why that was not a good idea to do, they were just earnestly trying to take pity on me, which is the worst feeling ever to know that you’re not just a little unfortunate looking, but
so outstandingly ugly that random people you’ve never even talked to pity you to the point of going out of their way to try to comfort you. A part of my soul died that day even though it’s been almost a decade.
No. 383456
I used to not care about being ugly because I decided I didn’t want a boyfriend, and when I realized that, all my insecurities from my teenage years melted away and I was pretty happy. But for some reason, I had a really late bisexual awakening, and the futile desire to date women I have crushes on has yanked my self esteem all the way back down to the depths of my high school years.
Suddenly I’m thinking all the time about things I was sure I’d never think about again, like plastic surgery and even makeup (even though the latter makes no sense for my style, I try to come across as gnc), and it feels so pathetic and horrible to be back here, especially because neither of those things would even help me, I’m unfixably ugly due to my bone structure and feature placement. Feels so, so bad. I thought I was over this. I’m ashamed of myself and mourning the romantic life I could have had if I had been born with a different face. Because it’s like, men are shit so I don’t care and it never felt like a loss, but this feels like a loss. However nonsensical that might be.
My life would be so much better if I never had that awakening. It’s caused me so much suffering, when before I was getting by okay. Now I’m suicidally depressed like I haven’t been in years. Life just keeps throwing me curveballs that hit me right in the stomach.
No. 383605
>>383182Untrue lol I know I'm ugly because I have an actual jaw deformity noticably offsetting my jaw and jutting it out that I've been told by multiple orthos to get surgical treatment for and I have shit skin but I've never been told to my face that I'm ugly. You can be ugly and lucky enough that people aren't overt assholes about it.
>>383514Mood.
No. 383608
>>383456I’m bi but I feel like impressing and dating women is really hard. I date men simply because it’s easier.
Most moids don’t care if you’re a loser or kinda ugly they’ll just take anything they can get. Women have higher standards for a partner (and rightly so) I feel like I don’t meet their standards at all. I remember going on a date with a very high flying career woman power lesbian type and as soon as she found out I wasn’t earning over 100K a year she just left the date because she wasn’t interested in someone not on her level.
No. 383721
>>383699Both my parents are shilled as beautiful. They don't even try. My mom, for most of her life, didn't even use conditioner on her hair. She would just shampoo and let her hair airdry. It would form the most beautiful curls at the end with no frizz. She never used makeup, and all she did was moisturize, and that's it. People commented on how pretty she was all the time. Meanwhile, not only I look ugly, I barely look like them. I know I'm their daughter, but I kid you not, I thought my mom cheated on my dad because I have a nose that nobody in the family has. I can see I'm a mixture of them, but a mixture in the sense that someone put them in a blender and added some abhorrent slime with it, and it resulted in me. My family knows I'm ugly and tries so hard to make me feel better by saying shit like, "At least you got hazel eyes!". As if hazel eyes would fix the vile bone structure of my face kek. I honestly coped by seeing how fucked up in the head they are. Being beautiful didn't shield my parents from bad things, neither did it help them achieve the important stuff they have. They still cheated on each other with way uglier people too. It sucks being ugly, but being beautiful doesn't guarantee as much I thought it did.
No. 383726
>>383608It's weird, I have the totally opposite experience. People always say dating men is easier but men have always picked apart my looks and most of my bullying came from men. I've been rejected and ignored by them completely. Women seem to like me though, and while relationships never worked out I never felt like it was my appearance that was the issue. This would make more sense if I were butch but I'm actually pretty femme, I think. Maybe that's what angers men? idk
>>383699I moved away from my family and try to avoid them as much as possible. There are other reasons for doing so but this is an added benefit. Sorry, that's probably not terribly helpful. Are they cruel to you about it?
No. 383790
>>383727ayrt, that’s so rough. My younger brother (21) isn’t super handsome or anything, but he looks normal and is decently attractive. I feel really lucky he’s too lazy and mentally ill to have had a girlfriend yet. He went on a date once in high school and I internally seethed so hard, and was glad when it didn’t turn into anything. I know that makes me a terrible person. But when he gets his first girlfriend I’m going to be despondent. Because he’s such a piece of shit (lazy, messy, ungrateful, egotistical) compared to me (not that I’m an amazing person, but at least I function and groom myself) so it will prove that looks really are everything. And it will also sting watching my parents be happy for him, see the relief on their faces that at least one of their children was good enough to find a mate. They don’t ask me or talk to me about dating at all, probably because even they can see that I’m way too ugly to have any success. In turn, I act like I’m not interested in dating because to admit otherwise would be even more humiliating.
>>383726I don’t want to move away from my family, they’re very nice to me actually, and are the only people I can socialize with since I lost touch with all my friends. Which makes me feel more pathetic, no partner, no friends, no admirers, no social life— just an ugly 25 year old woman paying her parents rent to live in their house like a failure of a child. When I look at my situation objectively it fuels my suicide plans. My birthday is coming up and I will be 26, the age my mom was when she had me, still living like this, with no achievements, career, social, or romantic, to my name. I will feel terrible doing that to my parents, but it’s clear that I am not meant to exist and it’s excruciating to live as a genetic and social anomaly and feel the judge mental eyes of society and extended family.
No. 385256
I was feeling pretty confident in myself at work today, walking with confident strides, and then I went into the restroom and caught sight of myself in the mirror and I deflated like a balloon. I look so fucking ridiculous, when I’m walking around all confident it’s like my subconscious tricks itself into thinking I’m normal looking even though in reality I’m extremely abnormal looking. I’ve always wondered why it seems like no matter what I wear, my clothes always look “off” on me in a way they wouldn’t on anyone else, like I’m a developmentally disabled adult prancing around in a costume of a normal person, and I realized that it’s got to be mostly due to my face, i don’t know how, but it’s like it gives an air of incompetence to the rest of my body just by being connected to it. I feel like an awkward clown, and I’ve tried so hard for so long to “fix” my impression with fashionable clothes and a haircut that suits me (as well as any haircut can, so it’s a low bar) but I think it’s actually impossible. My face and head will always throw everything off. It’s incompatible with the impression of a put-together adult woman, no matter what I wear. What do I even do? Is there seriously nothing I can do to not have a freaky retard impression?
Why did I have to be born with this skull and face?
No. 385383
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I find it really difficult to try to stay happy when I know I'm one of those people that others see and think
>"oh wow, poor thing. I'm so glad I'm not as ugly as her. Things could be worse."
Because everywhere you go, that is people's first gut-level reaction to you. How are you supposed to cope with that knowledge? That you can never go anywhere without immediate negative or pitying judgement from anyone who sees you? This is a heavy emotional weight that average-looking people just don't understand when they tell you
>it doesn't matter how you look, all it takes is some confidence!
No matter how confident I act, this will always be my reality.
No. 385385
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Was anyone else not a horrifically ugly child, but then puberty hit and your face changed beyond recognition? I wasn’t always as ugly as I am now, it started around middle school when I hit puberty. My face got too long, my fat distribution got fucked up, and my nose almost completely changed shape. I’ve been compared to Fuchi from Junji Ito’s universe, but without her height and bad fat distribution. It’s over for me.
No. 386566
I look so troonish, like the euphoria fag. I also have the height, so I'm scared of people thinking I'm a moid.
I wish I was short and cute so badly, I'm unironically the "old white girl seething about pretty idols" header.
>>386558Sometimes I want to yell at them, when they talk about their relatives/friends' kids and their relationships too much (vs me who obviously can't find a partner). But my parents aren't really ugly, I somehow just got all their negative traits combined.
It's insane just how important being attractive is, it's not just about finding a partner, studies show that even babies are already treated according to their looks.
I also remember being kindergarten age and some old relatives praising how pretty a cousin of mine had gotten. When they caught me looking at them they quickly added "You too, anon" but even back then at that young age I immediately understood that this was a lie.
I don't know how to cope, I basically just daydream about being a gorgeous celebrity 24/7.
On top of that very recently I suddenly aged so quickly, it's like my terrible lifestyle caught up with me overnight. So now I can't even cope about at least being young anymore…
No. 386685
>>386615Male friend told me I'm average or slightly above average compared to the rest of the people of my country since incest and malnutrition runs rampant in it, but I think he's just being nice. While my female friends do the gaslighting thing and say shit like "love yourself", they're no lookers themselves and they're nice so I let it slide. The only pretty one also told me the same thing. I wish they'd just be honest with me.
On the topic of looks, I looked at my old ID picture from when I was 16 and weighed 36 kgs (I was ill at the time), and I looked HORRIBLE in that, then I looked at my most recent ID picture where I weighed 42 kgs and I'm 21 in, and I still had some things off but looked better face shape wise with more developed bone structure and less skin issues. Still look messed up though and it makes me sad. And I'm still ill and stressed out with imbalanced hormones, so I'll probably never escape this hell.
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>>385400Who? Why do I get the feeling it’s Wagner?
Did you look like Wagner nonna?
No. 386703
>>38668542kg is still too low. I was severely thin too and i looked much uglier back then than I do now. When I gained weight to the point I'm healthy I kept getting compliments on my hair, face and figure which all got better once I stopped being sick.
I was never anorexic but I always ate little, i had to force myself to gain weight but i dont regret it.
No. 386707
>>386689Honestly I wish it was him, I could be salvageable.
I once did that AI face thing that finds your celebrity lookalikes, and all my top results were 55+ year old ugly scrotes. I am really that ugly. I’ve never even once been complimented on any aspect of my appearance, and people go out of their way to let me know I’m ugly. People who cry about being average and not supermodel level attractive make me furious, they are so incredibly lucky and yet they have the nerve to complain about it? I would do anything to be average.
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>>386710No, it was accurate. One of the results was even the same scrote I was compared to as a baby.
I literally feel ridiculous sometimes just walking around with my face. It’s like I’m wearing a cheap Halloween mask that would be inappropriate to wear in most settings, except it’s my actual face so I can’t take it off. It feels like a joke to do my hair and wear professional clothes when in the center of it all is a ridiculous face
No. 386721
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>>386719like this guy. you obviously can't look this flamboyant in everyday life, but honestly them not having the most attractive face out there only adds to their look and has way more street cred in a sense compared to prettier people.
No. 386723
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>>386721or here, the dreaded hook nose that everyone wants to rhinoplasty away becomes part of the aristocratic vampire look. it elevates her style. it doesn't necessarily have to be gothic style, it is a fashion that isn't convenient for every day life, but some unique style where no one could say that hey you have to look like all those influencer babes on the internet because looking like them isn't even the point in the end if you dress freaky.
No. 386727
>>386721I do get what you’re saying, but I’ve really got the face of a wild pig, chimpanzee, and German grandpa combined kek, that guy is a top super model compared to me. When you have a very long distance between your snub nose and thin upper lip + no cheekbones, just flab at the bottom of your face, heavy caveman brow, and small weird eyes, there’s just not anything that can salvage that and I’d prefer to just blend in clothes-wise so that less people go out of their way to look at me. If I could dress how I really wanted, I’d go for a 60s or 70s look, but it’s too hard to find items for it.
No. 388323
>>388315You're not ugly. If you're ugly, people let you know. A car of teenage boys stopped next to my car at a red light and when I turned to look at them they all started laughing and yelling about how ugly I was. The week before, someone told me I look much better with a mask on. I was bullied growing up for being ugly. People would pretend to ask me out as a joke and then laugh in my face. If you are actually ugly, you don't have to wonder.
You are average. Be grateful.
No. 388549
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>>388536If you're never hit on, consistently ignored, and people use your appearance first when insulting you, you're ugly. If you've never experienced this in your life then you're most likely normal. 8-9? Give me a break lol
No. 394643
>>394622Honestly, being ugly does have it perks. I don't really shave my body either, but at the same time i hate super hairy men and i don't feel a shred of guilt about it. I know this is a controversial take, but i do credit my ugly looks for saving me from getting harassed by men. Imo, if you are truly gross, men really leave you alone and most of the women who say otherwise are at least average looking enough to be palatable to moids. Even though in theory i should cake my acne scar ridden face with makeup, i rarely ever wear it because it's pointless to make myself uncomfortable to please anyone. I also see putting makeup on as putting glitter over shit, i don't see how it's really changing my face, if anything it's making my situation worse by clogging my pores. I don't really pluck my eyebrows or make an effort to dress nice or at least in a way that's palettable. I feel like this is the kind of idgaf energy can only arise if you were born ugly. It does makes me depressed sometimes when all i have phases where all i want to do is fit in, don't get me wrong, but if i was more attractive then i would have to worry about aging or losing my looks. I have no looks to lose, i'm already as bad as it gets.
No. 394700
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>>39467799% of males are hideous so there's not much difference between what a 6/10 and a 3/10 will pull. There are too many gorgeous women so the majority of them will have to date males WAY under their league. Not even beauty can save you. Males are never truly disgusted by women because their whole purpose is to chase us and settle with any woman who will take them. All of the looks-shaming is for show. You could approach a 10/10 and he'd still fuck you if he's horny enough. It's all about timing. Unless you've got supermodel looks we're all stuck in the same hell hole. And even then you'd probably be getting raped by Harvey Weinstein. You should prioritize your education as having a high income will permit you to date wealthy moids and hire gorgeous whores. Or you could pay for your ugly scrotes' plastic surgery. Usually rich people only marry other rich people and looks don't matter too much. At the end of the day, uglies win. Men have liberated themselves from beauty standards by collectively being hideous and doing nothing to fix it. Life is unfair, one can only accept it or kill herself. Acceptance doesn't mean awaiting your demise like a sacrificial lamb, it means doing whatever it takes to achieve your goal. It's a fighter mindset. It's not the 1800s anymore and you're not being sold to the highest bidder. Believe it or not, you're still more beautiful than any given male. Women have neoteny and males don't. Our futures are inherently loveable and God's light shines through our eyes. Think about it like this, an "ugly" cat can still be cute. Because it's a kitty cat! This is also true of "ugly" women. Don't see yourself through the eyes of someone else. Look into the mirror and see this: