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No. 434936

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No. 434949

Need to vent. I asked for the HPV vaccine when I was in my mid-teens and my retarded scrote doctor said no, they "didn't give it to girls who were likely to have been sexually active already" (I was a virgin!! but they didn't care or believe me). I found out today about 10 years later that I have a high risk strain of HPV and I will have to get cervical smear tests done every year because my immune system can't seem to clear it. And my risk of cervical cancer is significantly increased. Why does the medical profession hate women so much?

No. 435093

>>434949
Huh, what a strange behavior from your doctor. I guess he was misinformed and thought only young teens can have it.

No. 435348

>>434949
My retarded mom didn't give us the vaccine. Now I have HPV too.

No. 435390

>>435348
>>434949
Feel bad for you both. My mom didn't want me getting it but the doctor managed to convince her

No. 435402

>>435390
I got it because where I grew up it was mandated for everyone once we reached a certain age, I remember having to get it at school. But I also remember it very negatively because I was confused about what was happening and I got a dodgy vague and assumptive response like "you need this because at your age you're going to start having lots of sex soon" and it made me feel genuinely insecure about not even coming close to having any sexual experience because they presented it as this "everyone does it" thing. Even though it would've been much weirder and more screwed up for me to actually been having frequent sex at 11-12ish. I don't get why even when they do something right medical professionals have to be weird and judgmental about women's health

No. 435788

How do you people even have piv sex whenever I put something in my vagina that is bigger than my index finger it just feels like I need to poop and it hurts. I'm already 25 and at this point I have given up on ever having real sex because it's just not possible. The d doesn't fit and whenever I try it just hurts no matter how much lube I use. I don't think this will ever be or feel enjoyable it is the least pleasant thing on the planet and just hurts or is uncomfortable. My long term bf even broke up with me because we weren't able to have piv sex and he got fed up because of me. Idk if it is even worth trying anymore. I can masturbate while lying on my stomach and humping my hand and a pillow but nothing else does it for me.

No. 435807

>>435788
That's not normal. You either have vulvodynia if the pain is in the vulva or vaginismus if the pain in inside the vagina.

No. 435832

Really, extremely, stupid question. But does anyone else get that "throbbing" sensation in their clit when they're turned on by women, but get a throbbing sensation in their vaginal opening when turned on by men? Am I retarded?

No. 435836

>>435788
Just don't do it then. PIV sex isn't that pleasurable for most women even when it doesn't hurt. It's not worth the pregnancy scares and anxiety.

No. 435839

>>435832
I think you're retarded, my pussy throbs the same for men and women

No. 435840

>>435788
Don't pressure yourself because of your boyfriend, but it's worth exploring if there's anything medical going on just because I feel like every woman should get to experience how awesome penetrative masturbation feels.

No. 435894

>>435348
My mom wouldn't let me get it as a teen but when I went for my smear earlier this year the doctor told me I was still eligible for the next 6 months and I could have it if I wanted. I'm extremely lucky my smear test came back completely clear and I was able to get the vaccination at 24

No. 435932

does anyone have tips for orgasming more than once? i feel like after the first one i basically lose interest and it doesn't feel that good to be touched.

No. 436360

anyone use vaginal weights or ben wa balls and could say how to choose them properly?

No. 436445

Should I donate my vaginal bacteria to a study? I could get money for it. I just hope I'm healthy enough. Anyone have experience?

No. 436450

all the discussion on the hpv vaccine is making me wonder if i should get mine, at school i had an anti-vax parent so never got it. is it worth it? being raised this way has made me a bit paranoid. nonas should i?

No. 436453

>>436445
Is this for the BV study? It sounds like it could help lots of women, I'd do it.

>>436450
Yes you should. It decreases your chances of getting cervical cancer. Literally no reason not to do it.

No. 436454

>>435932
I think it’s something you’re built for or you’re not. I’m someone who can have basically limitless orgasms, and I know we are built different because I don’t feel the way you describe after an orgasm. Maybe for like a minute tops, but then I’m already itching for the next one. I never really am fully satisfied, I just become too physically exhausted to continue. It used to frustrate me when I was a teenager but I guess I’ve just gotten used to it.

No. 436478

>>436453
Okay great, I will! Yes I think that was what it was for. Enrollment ends next July and my next gyno visit is Dec, so I want to make sure I'm good to go. Do you know if the requirements are just to simply not have BV yourself?

No. 436547

>>435932
Are you overstimulating yourself? I find I can have multiple orgasms if I stimulate myself gently as I'm orgasming, as in barely a light touch. But any more pressure than that and I'm completely done and don't want to be touched anymore.

No. 436866

>>436547
I’ll try this next time. I get way too sensitive after orgasming , but I wish I could experience back to back orgasms kek.

No. 436867

>>436450
Yes nonna. Get it. It will protect you from the strains that are commonly associated with cervical cancer.
The HPV vaccine is honestly a life saver, all women should get it, given that checking for HPV is tricky , it’s a very common infection that many have without even knowing it and that you specifically have to ask for it in order to check. Be proactive nonna.

No. 437521

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A couple months ago I had a real bad yeast infection, and it's come back twice now - both times right before ovulation. These flare ups aren't nearly as bad as the first round but still unpleasant and I sure would like them to stop.
Since it seems to be linked to my cycle and I have a decent idea of when it's going to come back, is there anything preventative I can do rather than wait until I'm suffering?
I'm wary of overmedicating by using a proper antifungal when I don't have symptoms, but would something gentler like picrel be worth trying?

No. 437523

>>437521
Beware of homeopathy nonnie, there's literally no active ingredients in that. If you really wanna do all natural, search for boric acid suppositories instead

No. 437527

>>437521
Unsweetened yoghurt can be used, both esting and smeaeing in on your vag, as well as cutting down on sugar intake when you know you're susceptible to get yeast infections.

No. 437563

Should I get a HPV vaccine if I am a virgin? Im already 20.

No. 437577

>>437521
I use Indian turmeric soap to wash my folds and clit with room temperature water. Maybe try that? It's antibacterial and safe with no added fragrance. But it has coconut oil if you're allergic to that. And a is a bit drying to the skin. Best advise is to just give up and go see a doctor.

No. 437581

>>437577
>using indian hygiene products
lmfao

No. 437672

>>434949
I’m so sorry anon. I was in the same situation where I was deemed too old and therefore too likely to have already been sexually active to get it through the usual channels, so I ended up paying out of pocket for it. It was like €200 or something, but it was the exact same thing they gave to girls 2-3 years younger than me so the doctor was fine with it. However the doctor’s assistant kept acting like I was spending €200 just to prove to my parents I was still a virgin.

No. 437823

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>>437563
yes, it helps prevent HPV strains/cervical cancer.
picrel - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7579832/

No. 437829

>>437563
everyone, go get the HPV vaccine. if you're a virgin, it's great that you'll be vaccinated before any risk of encounter with HPV. if you're not a virgin and even if you've already had HPV, you should absolutely still get it. just like how there are different strains of covid and flu viruses, there are different strains of HPV, and even if you've contracted HPV already, an HPV vaccine can protect you against strains you don't already have. none of the vaccines are 100% effective against every single strain out there, but the vaccines target the strains responsible for most cases of HPV-related cancer and most cases of genital warts. even if you only sleep with women, genital warts can be easily spread through sexual contact that isn't PIV, please everyone get your HPV vaccines.

No. 438093

>>437829
What is the reason doctors only want to administer the HPV vaccine to women who are not sexually active? Is that because otherwise you might already have an active HPV infection and the vaccination could make it worse somehow? It would be good to know their reasoning for this…

No. 438102

>>437521
What's your hygiene like? You shouldn't get a yeast infection every month. Either you're doing something wrong or you need to see a doctor

No. 438104

>>438102
My hygiene is A) good and B) unchanged. Daily showers, clean underwear, etc. I'm not prefect, like I don't change my towels every three days like you're supposed to but I'm washing them as frequently as I always have and until three months ago I'd never had a yeasty in my life.
First doctor I spoke to was completely unphased, ran some tests to confirm there was nothing more to it and just told me to keep using the same antifungal whenever it comes back.
I went to a different doctor today who was also very "yeah this happens sometimes" when I told her it was three months in a row but at least prescribed me some fluconazole for the next 6 weeks to hopefully flush it out properly.

No. 438108

>>437563
I'd get it. I was too old for it to be offered when I was still a virgin. I had 2 partners by the time I got a hpv screening and they found one of the bad strains and I had cervical cell changes that they graded a bit like how they grade cancer stages. I was shitting it. The amount of stress/appts I had in the following 2 years. And had it hanging over my head all that time till I got goods news. There's always the big pap smear conspiracy anons that pop up when stuff like this is asked.

No. 438111

>>438104
Get your blood sugar checked, you may have diabetes/be pre diabetic. And no you don't have to be fat to get diabetes.

No. 438252

>>438093
ayrt, I actually don't know, but that's a good question. I always assumed it was just about not 'wasting' the vaccine on people who had a chance to already be exposed, or to avoid confusing people who thought it could cure you or who would get angry that they got the vaccine and had HPV anyway. You're right though, there could be another reason.

No. 438317

Tomorrow I'm getting a biopsy done. I'm super nervous.

No. 438369

anytime anons demean a cow's vagina for having a small clit makes me feel kinda sad because i'm seeing even women say that's undesirable when i've had moids be kinda mean about mine being that way. it's not my fault i was born that way/developed that way and i thought vaginas being different was something we are supposed to celebrate or something. i try to tell myself it's just because it's a cow but i've even had nonnies from the friend finder thread demean a vagina trait i happen to have and i just didn't say anything but felt like that's cruel you don't even know/need to know what mine looks like yet felt the need to point out how this trait you have is totes awesome and also point out how this trait is super weird but you don't even know i have that trait. and i didn't even ask her what she thought about x trait, she just brought it up. it just feels mean when we all know we have different vaginas yet you feel emboldened to play the insult lottery on my vagina by randomly saying x type vaginas are ugly and weird. come on.

No. 438398

>>438369
fwiw I'm a lesbian and the relative clit size of my partners has literally never been anything I register as important. Every woman's vagina looks different, like flowers in a garden. Anyone who cares is weird.

No. 438400

>>438369
Insulting vaginas is so weird to me. I’m never going to understand.

No. 438439

>>438369
dude WHAT? Stop reading what incels and femcels say . I have NEVER EVER heard anyone talking about clit size in a demeaning way. Well except when the clits are as big as little penises… but small clits? Never.

No. 438523

>>438369
Imma be real people demean others for having a big clit too. Or for having “roast beef.”
Bitches be miserable, don’t let it get to you nonna your bits are fine

No. 438929

Is it normal that you don't feel anything inside of your vagina? I had sex today for the first time and other than an unpleasant stinging feeling at the start there was literally nothing else except for a slightly uncomfy feeling? I sat on top of him and the guy is completely normal sized and I couldn't feel anything inside, I didn't even realize that it was completely inside me at first. People always rave that sex feels oh so good but it was rather underwhelming and there is literally no pleasant feelings inside the vagina?

No. 438931

>>438523
I never really understood what the hell roast beef was.

No. 438934

>>438929
Yes it's common. My first time was also underwhelming. You could try exploring yourself with your fingers in private while you are thoroughly aroused, that's how I figured it out. I have several erogenous spots inside my vagina, enjoy piv and prefer piv orgasm. Obligatory disclaimer that some women don't orgasm from penetration tho and that's ok bla bla

No. 438944

>>438929
It differs from one person to another. I understand what you mean with the stinging sensation, that happens to me when I'm not aroused or wet enough. I masturbate only with my fingers and never had sex, but I know the sensation you're talking about because that's when it happens. But when I'm really horny and into it after my period is finished and during the time leading up to ovulation, I get super aroused and the stinging disappears completely and I can fit more fingers and it feels so good from start to finish, even the opening itself getting anything touching it is pleasurable. Inside my vagina, I find it most pleasurable when I angle my finger upwards towards my abdomen whether a bit further inside or in the beginning of the canal, and raising my hips upwards really helps tightening it in a pleasurable way and it feels so intense, it's a bit overwhelming at times, so I still haven't orgasmed from it because I chickened out and gave up half way through leading up to an orgasm, lol. But I know that if I keep doing it that way and get used to it, it will be amazing.

No. 439082

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Can a nona recommend some masturbation strategies? I only know how to masturbate by flexing my lower body really hard and tbh it’s not that good and hardly worth the effort. I’m a virgin but I worry that once I have sex I won’t be able to enjoy it because I just do not understand my anatomy. I stuck a finger up my vagina once out of curiosity. I barely got past the first knuckle, and it was painful.

I don’t really get horny except in my sleep. I only really get off sexually while dreaming. I blame this on not having the right man in my life but idk. Anyone relate? Is something wrong with me

No. 439809

>>439082
I can’t put anything inside me either nonna. I just masturbate on the outside and I do get pretty good orgasms so I’m satisfied kek. I managed to have sex the only time I did it, but I can’t put anything in on my own and when I got fingered I didn’t really like it that much.

Anyway relax yourself on your bed and just be patient, spread your legs and caress your thighs. You can either use lobe or spit if you aren’t wet enough and then just caress and play with yourself slowly, starting from the outside and then slowly reach for your clit and just rub it from side to side or in a circular motion. You just need to be patient. When you’re close you can also stop and resume again , more than once, it’s more satisfying when you end up orgasming that way.

No. 439811

>>439809
But strangely enough I really did enjoy PIV when I did it, I was even surprised at the way I was moaning kek. So maybe I just don’t like fingers?

No. 440647

i’ve had a recurring yeast infection for like almost a year now that will go away for about 3 weeks after i take some flucan and then come right back, usually either when i’m ovulating or if i have sex with my bf. i have changed all my habits to try to avoid it but nothing is working! i don’t take baths, i got a ph balanced, unscented soap to wash my vulva with, i stopped letting my bf finish in me, make him wash his hands and brush his teeth before we do anything, and we’re barely doing anything beyond kissing at this point because i’m so anxious about getting another infection so i don’t think it’s his fault, only wear cotton underwear, and i’ve been using boric acid and probiotic suppositories. nothing is working and i am losing my mind and it also feels like it can’t be healthy to be taking an antifungal medication this often, like i’m scared i’m creating some fucked up evil super-yeast.

i’ve never had this happen before, the only time i’ve gotten yeast infections in the past is from taking antibiotics but those always cleared up quickly and easily but then last year my ex cheated on me and i think gave me bv and ever since then my microbiome has been FUCKED. i have a doctors appointment with my gp in a couple weeks and i’m going to ask him to run some bloodwork because i’m worried i could be pre-diabetic or something as uncontrolled blood sugar is the only thing my gynecologist has suggested could be the cause but as far as i’m aware my blood sugar has always been normal. i’m just reaching the end of my rope tbh, i can’t even enjoy sex anymore because i’m so stressed out about getting another infection that my head is somewhere else the whole time and i just want my bf to eat me out in peace goddammit

No. 440677

>>440647

Nonna my friend had a similar issue and was put on loads of different treatments for thrush and bv with no change, but it was actually vaginal atrophy from perimenopause. She needed estrogen patches. I'm glad you're seeing your GP, but just something to be aware of that it might not turn out to just be your microbiome.

No. 440776

I need advice. I was giving my girlfriend oral pleasure, and while doing so, I noticed a hard, round lump on her labia minora. I thought it was an ingrown hair or a pimple, but she didn't seem to be in any pain when touched, and looking later proved that it's neither bc something under her skin. I haven't said anything cause her sister died of uterine cancer like, 5 months ago, and I don't want to scare her like this late at night. How should I break this to her. I'm not a gyno and I've never had this stuff happen before to me. I'm worried it's something serious

No. 440798

>>440776
It's probably just a subcutaneous cyst. Nothing to worry about, really. It's probably still in your best interest to bring it up somehow, but how you should do it really depends on you and your gf's relationship.

No. 440800

>>440647
try gentian violet tampons, worth a shot

No. 441242

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Found a great in-depth resource on how much vaginas can differ externally, thought it'd be worth sharing here https://maipdf.com/old/?e=d17207277627

No. 441294

Found a bit of blood in my mucus after cycling? Is this something to be concerned about? It’s obviously not menstrual fluid.

No. 441494

Just took an extended look a my vulva for the first time as a 25 year old and realised that I haven't been cleaning under my clitoral hood properly. I know I'm a retard for this but I also have a pretty small clit/hood so I have to really get in there to clean it. Has anyone got some tips to share. Also I've always been self concuous about having an "outie" but today I realised that I have a really cute vagina, I still don't totally love how she looks from the front but idk that feels like I'm just nitpicking and looking for a reason to be self concious

No. 441580

>>441494
I glide the hood back and wash with the shower head

No. 441711

has anyone ever got chlamydia before despite being a lesbian? I got it and have since recovered, probably from shared sex toys? what are the chances it comes back?

No. 441724

>>440798
Seconding this, I've had one before and it felt like a hard round ball inside of the labia minora skin, scared the hell out of me. I ended up using a hot washcloth on it until it sort of ended up "popping" like a zit and it hasn't happened again.

No. 441725

are pap smears as bad as people describe it? im going for my first one in a few weeks and im a little scared

No. 441726

>>441294
Are you ovulating? Spotting can happen during ovulation sometimes

No. 441727

>>441725
Not to give you false hopes, but it's got to vary from person to person because mine are always 100% painless.

No. 441803

does anyone have any good home remedies for yeast infections? i have a raging yeast infection right now

No. 441809

>>441725
It depends on the person, but my pap smears have been more uncomfortable than painful. The feeling passed as soon as I dressed myself again.

No. 441816

>>441725
After I got mine done I thought "that's it?" because some women describe it as torture. The worst part was honestly waiting forever in that gown.

No. 441863

>>441803
Please nona don’t fuck around with this shit and just find the nearest pharmacy with a self checkout and get a real treatment. The embarrassment is less than the discomfort. The 1 day ones can burn a lot so avoid those, the 7 day ones can take a long time but I think they still provide relief relatively quickly in the treatment iirc so I go with 3 day but I think 7 day is fine, you want the ones where the medicine comes in a suppository pill form as opposed to just cream so it stays inside and doesn’t come out and burn you, but definitely apply the little cream that is designed for the labia thoroughly to the exterior. Also I assume you know the difference between BV and yeast but if you don’t, see a doctor

No. 441872

>>441725
Varies so there's no set 'heres what yours will be like' answer but I've had pap smears and a colposcopy too and never felt pain or discomfort from either of them.

No. 441891

>>441242
Why didn't they take pics of the clitoris with the hoods lifted?

No. 441893

>>441803
You take medicine, we don’t live in the 1500 anymore.

No. 441895

>>441725
I had my first one a few months ago and the only really uncomfortable part was when they put that lube stuff on your vagina, the feeling is just a bit gross IMO but there was literally no pain at all throughout the entire process but again ymmv.

No. 441906

>>441803
Buy Monistat and your yeast infection will be gone. Just don't get the 1 day treatment, never in my life had I felt such intense burning. It did cure my infection though.

No. 442264

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I had a rough time today.. Today was the day I was supposed to change my copper IUD for the second time in my life. I knew the pain would be excruciating, but I was mentally prepared and ready for what was to come. The very nice midwife starts the procedure and SHE COULDN'T GET IT OUT!! The threads were visible but it wouldn't budge, she even called in a second person to try but still nothing.. She referred me to a gynecologist at the hospital who's gonna try and remove it with the help of ultrasound in 2 weeks. I have no doubt in my mind I'm in for the worst pain of my life and I'm super fucking scared.

No. 442291

>>442264
You don't have to be in pain. Advocate for yourself and demand that they give you something for the pain. There are things they can give you. https://www.ohsu.edu/womens-health/closing-gender-pain-gap-your-gynecologist-has-pain-control-options

No. 444471

Nonners, it's been around three months i think, I have been having long cuts behind both my labia minora, deep enough to bleed and also bruising my clitoral hood when i masturbate. I can't go to the gynecologist atm because im unemployed and when i searched for it nothing came out. I don't have any other symptoms in my vulva other than these that are actually fucking hell on its own. Any nonna have any experience with this? Does any nonna have an idea of what it could be?

No. 444472

>>444471
Forgot to mention that the cuts itches and my bruised clit hood does too. Shower daily, virgin, no panties at home.

No. 444594

>>444471
I think this could be a sign of an infection. You should check the vulvodynia subreddit, I've seen several posts about having cuts in the vulva.

No. 444607

>>444594
Samefag, I just remembered it could also be vulvar lichen sclerosis. The LS subreddit is also helpful.

No. 444617

>>444607
thank you nonny, i will look into it, just having some sort of light as to why this is happening is very helpful already, thanks!

No. 445875

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sorry nonas if this sounds retarded but do these brightening soaps actually work? i’ve always been insecure about my vagina (specifically the hyperpigmentation around it) and i’m just looking through options.

No. 445876

>>445875
No, they're a waste of money at best and a really dumb way to cause yourself skin damage at worst.

No. 445877

>>439082
Im in the same boat the masturbation method I use is just touching the exterior part (and I used to masturbate only with panties/clothes on because I felt uncomfy) but today I tried to put my finger inside my vagina and it was a different experience, I have vaginismus and this feels like progress honestly.
Was any nonna able to cure this at home? I think going to the gyno could be worse because they apparently stick metal things up vag and I don't want that

No. 445883

>>445875
Hyperpigmentation is hot, don’t put chemicals on your pussy.

No. 445911

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>>445883
this made me giggle thank you nona

No. 446131

>>445875
Fuck all this shit honestly , even the surgery that cuts your labia. If someone is turned off by my vagina they can walk through the exit door. I have a huge birthmark that takes hall my inner leg and goes from my inner thighs up to my butt, I used to hate it but I got over it because it’s not that deep. I’ll keep my black hyperpigmentated pussy kek, I kind of like it. I would look weird with a pink pussy since I’m black.

No. 446376

I have to book my first gyno appointment but I can’t put nothing in my vagina and I’m scared as hell kek.
I’ve only had sex once , it took time since it hurt , but it was my first time, when I got more wet penetration felt quite nice. I haven’t been able to put any finger in ever since that and I masturbate solely by rubbing my clit. I tried wearing a tampon last time but I couldn’t manage.
Am I just a retard who can’t insert anything alone but needs someone else to do it?

No. 446379

>>446131
>I have a huge birthmark that takes hall my inner leg and goes from my inner thighs up to my butt
I know you didn't ask but that's hot

No. 446425

i got a pap smear and they only ordered gonorrhea and chlamydia testing instead of cervical cancer testing. im a virgin i only wanted to know if i would get cancer. it was so uncomfortable when i got it. the np that did it on me didnt make me feel comfortable at all. do i have to get another one or what?

No. 446426

>>446425
It's actually so crazy that they wouldn't do cervical cancer testing on a pap since that is the primary reason they test and there are much easier ways to test for the other two. Is there any chance that they ordered that test but the results haven't come back yet? If not, I would call or send a message through the online portal to follow up and ask if you're getting cervical cancer testing and if not, why not.

No. 446604

>>446376
I feel you, I could only get the tip in trying it with my nigel for the second time, even with a finger in it hurts. I have hypersensitivity issues and it’s hard for me to relax. I’m also gonna have to book a gyno appointment but idk how they’re gonna help.

No. 446605

>>446376
I've had a good experience with holistic clinics, as they take the whole body and mind into account

No. 446607

>>446131
Nonna, is it shaped like the land on a map? Because I have that too and have never heard of somebody else having it. I always call it "reverse vitiligo" but like you, I have it since birth and it reaches from the inside of my legs to my ass and between it.

No. 446613

>>446607
Yes! It looks exactly like that. I’m dark brown but the birth mark is darker so you can actually see it when you look at my inner thighs, there’s a stark contrast, but it kind of blends behind.

No. 446742

So is there a way to prevent yeast infection when you get antibiotics? I always get it these days when i'm taking antibiotics. Eating Yogurt and fizzy milk only helps my gut not my vag. What do? The yeast infection cremes are expensive for me so i'm lookig for a way so i wouldn't have to buy them when i already had to buy antibio.

No. 446834

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Guys can I post my punani here because I need to know if it's normal or not, or am I limited to describing it

No. 446838

>>446834
you can't. it would still count as nudes

No. 446839

>>446834
anon please don't be this retarded

No. 446843

>>446834
KEK don't fucking do that. Maybe you could take a picture of it and then make an overlay drawing, and then post the drawing?

No. 446844

>>446843
Genius kek

No. 446915

tried shaving my vulva for the first time in my entire life. will never do that ever again

No. 446920

>>446834
search for the great wall of vulva, be ware there are a few trannies but its mostly women of all ages

No. 447174

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>Wow, research on women's pleasure! Science is finally beginning to rectify medical misogyny-
>Orgasms triggered by penile-vaginal intercourse
>Perpetuating male worship and the benefits of penis
One step forward, two steps back…

No. 447207

>>446834
Why would your punani not be normal?? Do you have a specific concern or just general self-consciousness?

No. 447208

>>447174
>Moids would rather fund retarded studies than just rub the clit for 20 minutes.
Impressive.

No. 447244

not sure if this is the right thread for this but does anyone else’s clit throb when they’re angry? I keep getting mad at work and then feeling like I need to masturbate, it’s genuinely becoming a problem and it’s just making me angrier.

No. 447257

>>447244
kekkk maybe try to de-link the connection between anger and arousal? try masturbatimg only at your most serene. idk

No. 447262

>>447257
I only masturbate when I’m off pissed off because it calms me down, I think I’ve broken myself kek

No. 447293

how can I stop my vagina from smelling bad? like i’ve developed this new fear where everyone can smell its aura and it just really fucking stinks. i’ve started cleaning down there more deeply in showers, spraying perfume, etc etc but I feel like it’s not enough and i feel irrational and retarded

No. 447294

>>447293
If your vagina smells bad that means you have some sort of infection. Perfume is not medicine. Normal, healthy vagina doesn't smell strongly of anything unless you're right up in it with your face, and even then what it smells like is just pleasant.
Go to the gynecologist.

No. 447326

>>446425
>>446426
Seconding this. It's strange they focused on STDs only gotten from sex, but a lot of people are born with HPV

No. 447327

>>447208
I stopped letting moids rub my clit cause they all end up rubbing it like they're trying to start a fucking fire and then end up raping my urethra. Idk if it's weaponized incompetence or what. I'm just done with moids. I still get sharp pains in my urethra

No. 447334

>>447293
Spraying perfume is only going to make it worse.
Go to your gyno if you have bad odor, might be an yeast infection.
Only use non irritating soap, neutral ph, no added fragrances, don’t just was the outer part, but between your lips too, you actually have to clean your whole vulva, just don’t wash inside your vagina. Avoid synthetic underwear, cotton is your best friend.

No. 447352

>>447174
You forgot to mention this research is decades old kek, thankfully we've come a bit further since the early 2000s. These type of studies, researching female sexual pleasure through a framework of penis exceptionalism and women's duty to reproduce is probably a huge reason for why certain women are hellbent on denying the vaginal orgasm's existence. I get it, using science to claim depressed women just need a little bit of dicking is coombrained. Doesn't mean vaginal orgasms aren't lit as fuck though

No. 449169

How do I actually insert something in my vagina? I can’t really put anything and I don’t know why.
I’m not a virgin either, I’ve only done it once and the scrote I was with managed to finger me, although I didn’t particularly like it, and have PIV after two tries, I liked it quite a lot once I got used to it and I also noticed that I became really wet at a certain point.
I thought I could finally finger myself after that, but I can’t. Is it a mental block? Am I scared of penetration all together? Do I have to angle my fingers in a specific way? I sort of feel like a barrier when I try so I stop all together because it isn’t comfortable at all.

No. 449814

my pussy won't stop pulsing and i don't know why but it's really annoying. it's not in a sexual arousal way but like muscle spasming. so fucking weird.

No. 449878

>>449814
You probably have tension in your pelvic floor. Try to pee, if that doesn't fix it it could be stress.

No. 449904

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I feel like my pussy is closing, it feels much tighter than normal, and when i finger it i feel the top part kinda down? Is it because i stay too much time sitting? Am i fucked forever?

No. 453226

I posted here a few months back asking farmers for their experiences with vestibulo/vulvodynia and here I am. 5 days post-op after getting a vestibulectomy. Pain has been surprisingly manageable. I can't wait to get the non-dissolvable stitches out in 8 days lol. It's mostly annoying, and the skin itches like crazy when it heals.

No. 453272

>>453226
I missed this nonna. Congrats and wish you well on your recovery!
How did you realize you had it? I mean how did it feel?

No. 453339

>>434949
I solved this problem by never having sex, ever
Ugh I hate viruses and bacteria

No. 453372

i have a weird under skin pimple/cyst in the fold between my labia majora and minora, i would've thought it was an ingrown hair but no hair grows there. it is a bit painful when i apply pressure on it, pea sized, feels like it's under the skin, it's barely visible when i checked with a mirror. should i worry, have any nonas had something like this before? i'm pretty sure it can't be std related. is it just like a clogged pore or some shit?

No. 453373

>>449904
Sounds like your pussy is the canary in the coal mine for your back muscles and posture and you already sense that. There's a lot of videos on yt for this, pick a few and put a reminder in your phone to do them for a few minutes every day. You'll be fine

No. 453374

>>453272

I was never able to use tampons or have vaginal intercourse.

At 17 it felt like a wall, I couldn't get anything in past a certain point. Then I found a good gyn, started going to pelvic therapy and got the muscle tension under control. I was still tearing and having searing pain near my posterior fourchette.

For me it was this ripping sensation. I tried gabapentin cream for a while but it didn't help. So I visited a prof who told me a surgery was my best bet.

No. 453380

>>453372
Here you go nonnie. If you're a popper, you'll enjoy what's coming next (look up "lancing a cyst"). Interestingly enough, this is the duct "squirt" comes from, in the event it actually happens

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/bartholin-cyst/symptoms-causes/syc-20369976

No. 453583

>>453374
Oh god, this sounds like me

No. 453759

>>453583
If you don’t mind me asking, what are your symptoms?

I will say I was able to have penetrative sex at 20 ( very slowly and with entry pain). But and the pain did diminish slightly with regular sex but the entry pain and tearing always kind of stayed. I am also able to use tampons.

This kind of condition I have is generally called dyspareunia and/or vestibulodynia (which is the term for provoked pain). Vulvodynia would be unprovoked pain which I had no issues with. A vestibulectomy works best for provoked pain according to studies.

No. 454256

>>453759
I have a gyno appointment on February , it’s my first!
But I’ve also always had problems with fingering or putting tampons , it just feels uncomfortable and I never even managed with the tampons kek. I had sex only once and I honestly didn’t have that good of an experience, the guy I was with fingered me with no problem, but I really didn’t like it at all. And when it came to PIV I was really tight and it really hurt despite him being slow, but once I got more relaxed I managed and it started being good. He tried putting me on top but it couldn’t really enter kek.
Despite having sex that one time I still can’t put more than one finger without feeling discomfort and I can’t put tampons either.

No. 454257

>>454256
I don’t know how I would be with regular sex since I don’t have it kek. But I wanted to try and buy a dildo and get more used to it if I get an okay from my doctor that everything is good down there.

No. 455737

I keep getting told my vagina is really cold, I thought it was just moid negging but I recently hooked up with a woman and she like blurted out the same thing. I feel like it’s just kinda lukewarm, like the same temperature as my finger? Is it supposed to be very warm? Do I have a circulation issue? I’ve never really noticed genital temperatures kek…Idk if it’s something to see a gyno over though

No. 455901

>>455737
My vagina is pretty warm, it's because of all the blood rushing. Definitely warmer than my hands

No. 455903

>>455737
I do a lot of intentionally obtuse humble brags on this board bc I think they're kek but mine emits heat. I have an ex with your situation and it was genuinely startling the first time I realized she had a room temp. vagina. They're probably wondering if you're wearing a prosthetic and are really trans, especially the woman you hooked up with. It probably does have to with your circulation since my ex had issues with that but I would just tell people you have "cool chi" or an "autumn pussy". If you insist it's already an established thing, others will buy it and follow suit. Confidence is key, anon

No. 456505

>>455903
>wearing a prosthetic and are really trans
Is this a common thing? Like do you mean surgery vaginas are colder or are troons wearing some type of fleshlight situation? God I hope she didn’t make that assumption about me the dyke circles where I am are super small…and thanks for the advice kek, I’ll try not to dwell on it

No. 456513

>>456505
"Stealthing" is common unfortunately yeah but I was mostly just messing with you and I doubt she really thought you were trans. With my ex it genuinely only startled me as an immediate first reaction and then it kind of made sense since she always had cold hands too. To get really clinical about it, it probably fluctuates throughout the month along with your basal body temp. and like another anon said relates to blood flow and arousal. I should have said mine "emits heat" when I'm turned on but is normally probably more like yours. If you have access to reliable/free healthcare it wouldn't hurt to check your circulation and hormone levels if it really bothers you or never changes

No. 456550

>>456505
no this is not a common thing. nothing about the cool chi autumn pussy post you replied to is common or normal or reasonable what the fuck

No. 463776

So I was going to sign up for this study slash donation opportunity that would help women with BV, but it turns out that it'd require way too many trips to the city that I can't fit into my schedule.
I was suggested a different one, for healthy non HIV donors as a control group so they can study how the disease affects vaginal tissue. It's a pelvic exam with swabs which is whatever, but there's also an optional biopsy from your canal and cervix, and they inject you with numbing agent for that. It's $350 comped with the biopsy. I want to do it but I am terrified of the idea of getting injected down there. I have experience with IUD insertion/removal, pap smear, etc, but never anything more invasive. So I'm kind of freaked.

Can anyone offer insight on what this may be like? Should I do it?

No. 463779

>>463776
it should be more money IMO

No. 463784

>>463779
Yeah I kind of agree. The first study was going to be $800 even though it's less invasive, but you have to go into the city pretty much every weekday for over a month so I guess it makes sense. It's selfish to admit but I am partially doing this for the money because I have very little income. But I do want to help research as well, especially female health, since it's some of the only research I can participate in.

No. 464393

I have "vaginismus" in so far my pelvic muscles dont seem to be permitting penetration. I also have scoliosis and pectus excavatum, both of which affect the shape of my torso. The "clench" appears to be generally concentrated on my front. Could my vaginismus be anatomical?

No. 464399

What the hell am I supposed to do with these little super deep cysts (that have probably dried up to rocks by now) pimples around my vagina? They won't come close enough to the surface to pop. I could use a sterile needle to pierce a hole so they can come out but I'm scared of infection regardless.

No. 464407

>>464399
If they’re not causing you pain, I would just leave them alone. There is a chance they will go away without you having to do anything. If you try to pop them, the chances of you getting some kind of infection are high and that will be a bitch to deal with.

No. 464523

Anyone else had vaginal problems caused by sex for seemingly no reason? Did you ever find a solution aside from no longer having sex with that person? I keep getting problems with my boyfriend and he is my first sex partner, so I can't tell if it's just related to him. We are also long distance and are only together irl twice a year for a month at a time, so the only time we have sex is during these visits, unsure if this could be relevant.

>First met and had sex with my boyfriend in summer of 2023, I was his first and he was also my first
>I was on the pill and we did not use condoms, he also finished inside
>After the first time we had sex, I noticed that I had yellow discharge, but I assumed it was probably just leftover semen, so I wasn't really concerned
>Yellow discharge ended up never going away even after the visit ended, but I kind of got used to it and didn't think much of it
>Visited and had regular unprotected sex with him again in winter of 2023
>Yellow discharge continued, but no new symptoms
>Visited and had regular unprotected sex again in summer of 2024
>Started getting symptoms of a UTI shortly after, but when tested the results came back negative
>Assumed it could possibly be BV given the yellow discharge, used treatment gel but my symptoms didn't improve
>Symptoms continued on and off for a couple of months, seemed to only be getting worse
>Started getting spots of blood in my underwear so I got a vaginal swab, came back positive for staph bacteria
>Hospitalised for pelvic inflammatory disease a month later, November 2024
>Also tested at hospital for STDs, results all came back negative
>Was given a two week course of antibiotics that ended up giving me both vaginal and oral thrush
>Decided that I wouldn't let him finish inside of me after this experience, stopped taking BC anyway so it wouldn't be possible regardless
>Visited him again in December 2024, first had sex almost immediately after treatment ended
>First time was without condom but he pulled out
>Yellow discharge appeared to restart almost immediately after
>Due to the fact that the time between finishing treatment and having sex again was super short, and that I was on my period during the second week of treatment, I honestly don't know for sure if the yellow discharge did ever truly go away
>Do however know that even if it didn't go away, it wasn't anywhere near as bad as it was after I first had sex
>Started mostly using condoms after that, did go without a couple of times but he always pulled out
>Around a week and a half after the first time, I started having terrible shooting pains in my vagina which has never happened before, but this only lasted a couple of days
>Fast forward to now, starting to get a constant burning feeling in my vagina again and have noticed an odor a couple of times, scared it could be PID again

What the hell could be causing this? He showers at least once a day, often twice. He isn't circumcised but he washes his dick in the shower and I can visibly see that it is clean. He definitely doesn't have any STDs either. Are our microbiomes just incompatible or something?

No. 464572

>>464523
>Are our microbiomes just incompatible or something
Most likely. I’ve read reports/studies that some people are just sexually incompatible on the molecular level, with a higher chance if both partners are of a different race (kinda racist when I first read it but it also sort of made sense).

Are you and your bf interracial?

No. 464578

>>464572
He's russian tatar and I'm british ukrainian, so kind of? He looks white enough to be considered it by most (I think), but his facial features are noticably somewhat asian looking and he has dark brown hair and dark hazel eyes. I have slavic facial features with dark blonde hair and grey eyes. I wonder if that'd be enough to make a difference.

No. 464597

Does anyone else's pussy smell like burnt rubber sometimes? No abnormal discharge or symptoms and it just goes away on it's own but I'm curious

No. 464618

>>464523
Why are you having unprotected sex with no BC? Your luck will finish one day kek.
Your problem is with your scrote anyway, I’d test it out by not having sex and maybe getting him to test himself. If nothing comes out you’re simply incompatible I guess.

No. 468364

Does anyone else here have vulvar papillae? Did it get worse with time? A few months back I noticed a tiny weird bit of skin on my labia minora near my clit, and today I noticed that further down on the same side some more seem also to have developed. They feel kinda rough, and I'm worried that it's going to spread further. It definitely isn't an STD or genital warts, before anyone says anything.

No. 468623

>>468364
I’m a virgin and occasionally get one of these, I literally just wash my hands really well and surgically pinch it off with my fingernails. It’s painless and they don’t come back. If you’re not a virgin though, it could be an STD, so don’t follow my virgin guide.

No. 468941

was on test for years & my stupid mega clit hurts so bad sometimes it grosses me out. Doctors are like oh it looks fine shut up ur barely looking + ur being polite. Sometimes it’s fine sometimes it’s normalish or good but omfg, fucking malpractice and nothing helps longterm. It’s awful but literally I want to just cut it off sometimes. and it’s shitty to talk about bc it’s embarrassing and moids love female discomfort. much love nonnies <3(emoji)

No. 468949

i think i had a skin yeast infection on my groin/inner butt cheeks. i bought lotrimin powder and the extreme itchiness went away immediately. so far the dryness and scaling has gotten better too. i felt too self conscious to go to the doctor so im glad i was able to fix it by myself.

No. 468970

>>468941
if you are only seeking moids then yeah i can see why that would be upsetting to you but if not there are lots of women who love big clits. Also you're about to get banned for using the incorrect heart emoticon… you'll figure it out with some more lurking.

No. 468986

>>468970
It sounds like her issue is pain not some imaginary clit beauty standard

No. 469028

>>468986
Exactly. It’s just not possible to talk about anywhere non-anon bc moids enjoy the fact that i have sexual pain. I don’t really have problems like dryness fortunately just irreversible clitoral damage. A woman being “into” that doesn’t really help me

No. 469034

>>469028
Ntas, can I ask how did that clitoral damage happen if you don't mind explaining? Was it an accident or a side effect of a medicine?

No. 469045

>>469034
Testosterone causes the condition clitoromegaly, I can’t tell you exactly how quickly it happened but in my case I was on it for 3+ years bc I was a TIF. It isn’t reversible outside high-risk surgery and you could not pay me to do that, ironic saying I want to cut it off. have been trying topical estrogen but it doesn’t do anything noticeable. There is pain not only in the clit itself but also the pubis so maybe that is the internal structure stretched out as well. I’ve always been tight and can still feel arousal/pleasure but the monkey’s paw curled basically, more often than not being horny means a sharp pain in the pubis. Had no idea what I was really doing to myself until it was too late. Crazy people should not take hormones kek

No. 469052

>>469045
Sounds like a nightmare honestly, I’m sorry nonna. At that point isn’t the surgery worth it?
Maybe they’ll invent something to reverse these conditions once the troonism simmers down.

No. 469061

>>469045
Thank you for explaining. What if you looked into ways to decrease testosterone naturally through diet and exercise and the such? Or started HRT but with estrogen or/and hormones that can negate the effects of testosterone? Wishing you a speedy recovery either way and good luck.

No. 469065

>>469045
Have you been checked internally by a pelvic floor therapist or osteopath? If you have pelvic pain they might help.
I'm not sure if nerve pain medication can help with the pain, but it might be work looking into it. I take it for nerve pain in the vulva.

No. 469148

>>469052
doing everything I can to mitigate the pain without surgery, including pelvic therapy like >>469065 mentioned. Really don’t think it’s helping but we’re trying. Right now things suck but are stable. Genital surgery is not something to take lightly. They’ve suggested topical numbing creams but maybe a nerve medication could help? Thanks for the thought.
>>469061
Thank you, but unfortunately testosterone’s effects are mostly irreversible even when your levels drop. Voice, hairline, vaginal atrophy if you get that far, and clitoromegaly. Not impossible to improve things but impossible to revert, which is also why you see more females talking about trans stuff since the process hurts us more either way. active participant or not
almost didn’t even include an emoticon so boo, good luck and non-emoji love if you also have a fucked up vag

No. 469180

>>469148
I wish all these bad effects were only on males. Troonism seem to hurt women more. So many TIFs end up dying due to complications, at a bigger percentage than the TIMs. It’s really not fair.

No. 469501

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I'm gonna have PIV sex for the first time soon and I need advice. I'm super attracted to the guy and want it badly so that's not the issue. My problem is that I'm scared not only of how it will feel, but also over him possibly not fitting inside. I have vaginismus as well as a microperforate hymen. The opening of my vag is tiny and sticking only two of my own fingers in feels like too much. And my bf is tall and "well endowed" so to speak. The thought of him not only entering me but also thrusting for however long it takes him to cum scares me a little. Can he injure me? Is there anything I can do to prepare myself for it? Pelvic exercises? I never masturbated with a dildo but now I'm considering starting a pussy bootcamp to get ready, would that be a good idea? Anything else I need to know before my first time? Appreciate ya, nonnies.

No. 469503

>>469501
I had experiences with vaginismus and you can practice by getting some dilators. I was prescribed them (I had a really painful smear exam and my doctor arranged for me to have them) so I am afraid I can't recommend any kinds. Do also use lube for both dilators and PIV sex too! The first few times I ever had sex we used lube and it makes the experience so much better

No. 469524

>>469503
Thank you so much for your answer, nonna! Just went and ordered a dilator kit from a pharmacy, didn't even know this was a thing outside of troonery. Seeing a light at the end of the tunnel (my pussy) now!

No. 469570

>>469524
It's all fine! I didn't know either and tbh would not have sought it out if they hadn't been recommended for me. I'd advise to not "move up" a size until you can move the dilators in and out steadily and painlessly. Try to also set aside time regularly (once/twice a week) to do this, it was difficult for me at first but you can do this nona

No. 469959

>>469501
I agree with that other nona about the importance of lube. Do not be afraid to lube that sucker up! It’s much better when everything is wet and slippery. Also, try not to get any flavored lube as that can give you a UTI or a yeast infection. To help assuage your fears a little, he cannot injure you unless he’s really rough and doesn’t warm you up a little before sticking it in. If he’s a good lover, he will do foreplay and get you wet before he goes in for PIV. If it starts to hurt midway, ask him to pause and apply more lube. Do not push through the pain!! It’s not worth it and will ruin the experience. Try not to worry about looking, acting, or sounding sexy, just try to relax and enjoy being with him. Don’t put too much pressure on yourself to orgasm or make him orgasm. It will stress you out and make it hard to have fun. Make sure to tell him when he’s doing something you like and also tell him if he’s doing something you don’t like. It may help if you are on top for the first time, so you can control the pace and depth. That’s pretty much all the advice I have. Good luck, nona. I hope you have a good time!

No. 471809

Has anyone else ever experience a strange popping or cracking/crunching noise during sex in their vagina? It isnt painful but it is a tad uncomfy. This happens when I’m in missionary, is the dick getting too deep too fast and hitting my cervix too quickly? The dick is passing a fleshy ring of some sort inside my vaginal canal (no it isn’t the opening ;it’s inside me pass the opening) it isn’t queefing either. I have no idea what it may be, but it happens only when I get eaten out with no fingering, I orgasm and am really wet, and then my Nigel puts his dick in me.

No. 471810

>>471809
vagina pimples?

No. 471827

>>471809
That sounds horrid, nonna.

No. 471829

Vent
I used to spent alot of my teen years on 4chan/r9k and other similar boards and it compelty ruined me. Seeing all the disgust and hate for female anatomy made be really ashamed to have a vagina. I was extremely disgusted by it to the point it made me suicidal.
Now I'm doing better yes but I still feel weird about it (sometimes), well at least I'm able to masturbate without feeling like I'm going to shot myself later. And I can pee normall. All of that with no therapy.

No. 471846

>>471829
Vaginas are 10000000000x less gross than dicks. A beautiful vagina is always prettier than the most beautiful dick.

No. 471848

>>469501
You sound similar to me nona, I am >>471809 I have very small anatomy and my Nigel is big, long, curvy so I get pain sometimes like the weird popping noises if I am not “warmed up” with fingering

When I first tried to lose my virginity to him he literally couldn’t put it in and we had to do a bunch of fingering to break my hymen before he could finally put it in, which took about a week. It hurts at first but if you keep doing it and relax it doesn’t hurt and feels okay to pleasurable depending on how good the foreplay is , just make sure to tell him to go slow and shallow and if it’s painful tell him to stop or go slower
>>471810
You can’t get zits in your vagina wth, at least I’ve never had any inside there

No. 471859

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>>471809
>strange popping
>The dick is passing a fleshy ring of some sort inside my vaginal canal
Sounds like he's hitting your fornix.

No. 471874

>>471864
Nta but did you click on the wrong reply link? She was responding to >>469501 , I don't see how what she said was irrelevant.

No. 471918

>>471829
Nonnie pls, 4chan scrotes are the lowest of the low, complete misfit losers who do nothing but watch porn and spew hate online all fucking day. Caring about what moids think is already dumb, but caring about what 4chan retards think? I also used to browse 4chan as a teen and it did give me a lot of internalized misogyny. But when you get off the internet, you realize how pathetic and miserable they are.
All their hate is a coping mechanism and projection. In reality, they are dying to have sex with a woman and would put their ugly disgusting dicks in the first pussy they could find.

No. 472135

>>471829
Anon, I honestly think that a lot of their perceived disgust is just hiding insecurity and bitter resentment because they can’t find a willing woman to have sex with them. It makes their egos feel better to say that they don’t want to have sex because they think vaginas are gross and nasty instead of facing the reality that all women are repulsed by them. And honestly, if a man is genuinely that repulsed by pussy for real, he is probably a fag and therefore his opinion should mean less than dirt to you.

No. 472292

For some reason every time I smoke weed I get this weird uncomfortable feeling in my pelvic area, like it feels uncomfortable in my vagina too? I know I need to see a doctor soon but I’m just wondering if anyone had experienced this. I’m terrified of having cervical or ovarian cancer, I had a scare back in college and had HPV and abnormal paps, but at my pap last year it was “abnormal” but they didn’t detect hpv. I’m supposed to assume my body cleared it over the years but I’m still so scared. it feels like every year I’ve gone from normal to abnormal, back and forth and it’s so scary and frustrating. Anyway, when I smoke it’s almost like it gives me cramps and I just want it to make me less anxious, not hyper aware of my health anxiety! Kek.

No. 472304

>>472292
Does alcohol also give you cramps? It could be endometriosis.

No. 472310

>>464523
All penile microbiome is incompatible with all non-BV vaginal microbiome by design. He doesn't need to have a specific "disease" to give you dysbiosis, it's your vagina rightfully chimping out because you exposed it to something that's designed to destroy its immunity to facilitate conception. Unfortunate that women typically don't know this, or deny it to themselves. Also
>uncircumcised
Oof

No. 472318

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>>472292
No that's completely normal and it freaked me out too. There are so many completely typical yet undocumented weed symptoms, especially with quitting or low tolerance users. The first time I tried weed I remember how bloated it made me feel which still happens if I haven't smoked in a while. Shrooms makes my "groin area" feel weird too but more horny, whereas weed makes you feel like you've just become aware you have ovarian cancer and didn't notice before, for some reason (paranoia + bloating). If you're anxious about cancer in general try to keep a low sugar/low meat/dairy diet since the 3 are cancer's favourite foods (not a homeopath-fag, you should still get checked out regularly)

No. 472422

>>472310
If this is true, then how come the majority of women in long term relationships don't have vaginal problems?

No. 472433

>>472422
nta but your biome changes. People have fecal transplants for the same reason so a scrote inserting his biome into you several times a day/week, will change yours eventually too

No. 472466

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/microbiology/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2021.789983/full

Define "problem". They do experience a pathogenic (reduction in l.crispatus, introduction of penile anaerobes) change after each intercourse, it's just that it does not always produce short term symptoms. Diagnosable BV that makes you smell foul and causes pain, iirc, is found in 30% of women, subclinical BV-liks microbiota is more common, and restoration of original l.crispatus microbiome is possible if you don't have sex for X amount of time. It's fair to assume that the initial penile microbiome transfer/reintroduction will cause your vagina to hate you unless some sort of immune tolerance is involved eventually, which could explain the vague "BV may be caused by a change in sexual partners" idea. Interestingly, female chimps and bonobos all have BV-consistent microbiomes, while humans don't. The native "healthy" microbial makeup of a vagina is also mildly spermicidal kek.

BV is independently triggered by the male anaerobe-dominated microbiome (hence why you can get it from a virgin), but a specific strain can also be transferred by a male from another woman.

So in conclusion, women in long term relationships do have "problems" or a deviation from an objective standpoint, they just may not personally know, think it's a problem, or their microbiomes are made to be less hostile by BC. For example, if you were to decide to have regular sex with him, the natural state of your vagina would change and you would no longer experience symptoms after every intercourse. Also, uncircumcised dicks have a lot more anaerobic and fecal bacteria, so your vagina is giving you the full "what the fuck did you just put in me I fucking hate you" experience. It will give up eventually.

No. 475868

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nonas.. i have a very specific problem and i wonder if anyone can help me. I often take the dead skin layer off my vulva (specifically the more sensitive/thin part between labia minora and majora) i kinda just scratch it and wipe off the dead skin layer that collects under my nail (the consistency of said skin is kinda mushy, not like dead skin anywhere else), and i do this very often to the rigth side of my vulva. Recently ive noticed that the rigth side has a lot more dead skin than the left and also my labia majora on the rigth now bends in such a way that makes its pinkish part more visible (rest of my pussy is pretty dark and the place between my 2 labias is pink), and im very confused i cant tell if it was always like this or if me constantly scratching it made it like this. It has really became a habit at this point and if i dont keep taking off the dead skin layer i feel like it'll feel uncomfortable, should i stop doing this? Would the production of more skin slow down when im not repeatedly taking it down? Also will it start looking normal on its own again because i genuinely didnt know vulvas could chance shape this easily. Dont make fun of me if the answers are obvious we dont have sex ed where i like, i know barely anything about my organs.

No. 475882

>>472466
So women who have sex with men basically just have permanent BV? Christ. That is horrifying. You’d think women would talk about that. Explains why all men think vagina is “fishy”— whenever they encounter it, it actually is.

No. 475894

>>475868
Stop scratching it, use a cloth or something to wipe it off rather than your fingernail. It's fine to clean it frequently, the problem lies in the fact you are using your nail, which is probably irritating the skin. The shape should go back to normal with time, I'm guessing that it's probably just slightly swollen from the irritation, which is why it changed.

No. 475946

>>472466
What bacteria are transferred if you use fingers?

No. 475977

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>>475894
thank you nonny

No. 476030

>>475882
I feel like you essentially have to treat having sex with a man like you're sick for the next few days after kek. I was getting horrible recurring UTIs and yeast infections/BV until I started doing boric acid suppositories, cranberry pills, apple cider vinegar and kefir/a probiotic combined with at least a gallon of water a day for at least three days after sex (aside from the boric acid these are all fine things to do daily though).
Obviously get tested to make sure it isn't an STI first, but that helped break the curse of perma-yeast. I probably also just got used to my partner so my microbiome stopped freaking out.

No. 476033

>>476030
Nta, and sorry for the awkward question, but don't you use condoms with him?

No. 476035

How much discharge is too much? It doesn't smell, but basically I leave damp patches on my underwear everyday. It doesn't help I'm extremely horny so I don't know how much of it is just me getting moist vs discharge. I've had multiple smear exams and other than my 1st one ever saying I had BV, none of the medical professionals have ever commented about it

No. 476045

>>476035
Sounds like youre just horny. Relax and enjoy it, don't worry so much

No. 476047

>>476033
Im not that anon but i had the same issue and do the same things, boric acid, suppplements etc because i kept getting yeast infections and utis. We dont use a condom because we're married. In my case the infections were due to me having had gnarly covid right before our wedding lol, my immune system is in shambles so i need to be a little more careful.

No. 476061

>>476030
>>476047
jesus fucking christ.

No. 476207

>>476047
>don't use a condom because we're married
anon this is really bad for you. not just because you don't know if he's cheating/has secret STDs or not, but because males are immunoprivilege and are basically toxic for your biome by default. strongly recommend wrapping it even if he is your 1 tru luv 5ever.

No. 476209

File: 1737784345520.png (2.59 MB, 3000x2861, 3490021.png)

>>476207
Anon married couples don't use condoms (in general) and males have significantly lower and less adaptive immune function than females, by the very nature that they have a y (degrading) chromosome and produce cell/dna-deteriorating testosterone and die younger than women (or troon out, get withered bones and die younger than women). Couples in LTRs don't use condoms (in general) either, it's a gamble and risk people take and everyone is well-aware of it without you letting them know. It's why we don't fuck known-scrotes or befriend their pick-mes

No. 476212

I literally cannot believe that women having regular sex with their husbands/bfs have constant BV and are just supposed to accept that their pussy is always going to be sick because their man has to put his unwrapped dick in them. The fact that no one even chimed in like "oh idk that doesn't happen to me" and there's just agreement and silent acknowledgement is freaking me the fuck out. Why do no women talk about this when all partnered women must be suffering this way? I could not imagine living with a bacterial infection in my vagina for my whole sexually active life. So fucked up.

No. 476219

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>>476212
Well tbf that anon probably shouldn't. I'm just saying most married couples have sex without a condom. If every single woman got BV and a fucked up biome from it condoms in marriage would be typical. OTC yeast infection products are one of the most popular female-categorized items for women between the ages of 18-29 and that isn't really "marriage" years anymore. However the rising rates make me think there's a relation to hook up culture. But yeah, I agree that would be fucked up

No. 476222

>>476219
am i having a stroke or does your reply not make any sense as a response to any of these posts

No. 476225

>>476222
I doubt it's a stroke, maybe tiktok ADHD since you can't scroll up and need this info spoodfed but
Anons having sex with their nigels with biome-destroying results
>>476035
>>476047
Anons disgusted or posting medical mis-info about this
>>476061
>>476212
^This anon didn't reply to anyone, in the middle of a discussion about the thing she's talking about. So maybe that part was confusing

No. 476228

>>476209
But why not? Sperm is literally pozjuice. It’s an immunosuppressant by default even if the male in question is “clean”. It has to be, to overpower the female immune system.

No. 476229

>>476209
Wait what the fuck? Everyone is well-aware of it without me letting them know? So they just let this happen to them fully cognizantly? Why? For what benefit?

No. 476232

>>476225
Kek nona I'm single I don't have Nigel, I'm just naturally high libido and horny

No. 476236

>>476212
I'm in a relationship and can't relate to the BV thing, but I'm sure it can happen if you're immunocompromised, got hormonal issues and/or go raw dogging every single day of the week. Hormonal contraception itself can also alter the vaginal microbiome. I don't use hormonal contraception but opt for condoms most of the time.

No. 476252

>>476212
Same nonnie. I'm a virgin and I never could understand why moids say vagina smells "fishy". My pussy smells amazing (to me) and always had perfect discharge as well. I'm actually terrified of having sex with a moid now, is he going to destroy my perfectly balanced microbiome? This is TMI but I actually love how my panties smell when they're dirty, not sure if other women can relate to that or not. I can't let any scrote ruin her. This is some Alien-esque nightmare fuel shit, men are rancid.

No. 476283

Doesn't this happen more likely because he's cheating? After some time the biome would have adjusted, but not if he's constantly sticking it into whoever comes across

No. 476318

>>476252
Wow anon I'm so jealous. While reading this I kept thinking how you must be a
>better woman than you'll ever be!11

No. 476329

>>476318
NTA, but what? Are you troonfoiling her because she said her pussy doesn’t stink?¿

No. 476331

>>476329
>women think it’s supposed to smell bad and if yours doesn’t you’re a lying troon
The Nigel Question must be addressed

No. 476332

>>476329
I actually think she's a woman but incredibly socially inept or autistic. Who comes into a vagina thread (demographic: adult women) and starts bragging about their virgin pussy? It's fucking weird

No. 476333

>>476252
I can relate but I am also a virgin. Not sure what you mean by perfect discharge though

No. 476334

>>476333
>perfect discharge
It's a weird flex and indistinguishable from what a moid would say to a bunch "fishy roasties" who he wanted to fuck but can't (because he's a weird troon). Obviously anon doesn't want to present herself to the world a such, so it's good to point out imo

No. 476339

>>476329
It's the implication that other non-virgin women have smelly vaginas because sex ruins it.

No. 476349

But hearing all the horror stories by other women, it kinda does

No. 476350

>>476349
I'm sure regular sex with no condom can change the scent of a vagina but surely it must go back to normal after some time, right?

No. 476371

>>476350
I have sex with my boyfriend without a condom sometimes and I have never had a yeast infection and I have only ever had one UTI which I gave to myself. I also have diabetes which if you know anything about that it means yeast and UTIs are much more common. The anons in here must have an immune system made of spiderwebs or something because it's not normal to have your vagina go into shock terror mode with sex with your long-term partner UNLESS he has the most rancid unwashed dick.

No. 476384

>>476212
Because then it's blaming men (huge no-no, you should see how carefully this is worded in papers about men transferring identical BV strains between women) and furthering the narrative that women get nothing from sex (bad for "society"). There is also some degree of refusal to accept this among straight women because they want romantic love, and getting pozzed is the only way to achieve it. Lastly, this is always interpreted as saying that sex "ruins" women by libfems and radfems alike, who will then screech their programmed slogans "YOUR VAGINA/FRONT HOLE IS NORMAL! YOU CAN HAVE UTIS AS A VIRGIN! SLUT SHAMING!" at you while you utter "th-thanks" and continue burning when you pee.

No. 476386

>>476219
Why would preserving a woman's health at the expense of depriving a moid of cock friction be typical in a marriage? Besides, how are women supposed to know that a) they have BV-associated microbiome and b) BV isn't just conjured out of thin air like consumer level medical advice seems to suggest?

No. 476391

>>476371
Perhaps. Or maybe you already have vaginal dysbiosis and weakened systemic immune function (like most women with T2D or GDM were observed to) hence the 0 immune response to being regularly diversified.

Or do you actually think instant "shock terror mode" is something that happens in low immunity? KEK

No. 476400

>>476371
I've had a yeast infection once in my entire life and it was from going on the rides at Wonderland in damp bikini bottoms (that I thought were dry enough) with shorts over top kek. Never from a moid but they are rife with other bacteria, disease and fungi

No. 476401

>>476391
I actually don't, but keep fearmongering and being weirdly pushy with your narrative. Some women are totally fine after having unprotected sex, don't know why it's controversial to say.
>>476400
That's crazy, I always air the cooch out after swimming so I guess I'm safe. But my vagina's still in tip-top shape after coming into contact with one penis.

No. 476403

>>476401
I was 18 at the time and this was bad timing because I had agree to sell my panties to a random scrote on social media, who later turned out to be my friend's dad. I didn't send him panties but he gave me money. It's weird that I didn't just send him the yeast infection underwear, I would definitely do that now. Youth is wasted on the young imo

No. 476404

>>476403
>who later turned out to be my friend's dad
What

No. 476405

>>476403
… Okay.

No. 476408

>>476404
My friend's dad created a dummy account and offered money to buy my used panties, pretending to be a stranger. He sent the money (which I kept) and I didn't send panties but embarrassingly only bc of the yeast infection situation. Now I wish I had sent him tattered old granny panties full of cottage cheese, instead of nothing

No. 476409

>>476408
Why would you want to send him undies

No. 476410

>>476408
I didn't, I wanted the money and I was 18

No. 476411

>>476408
Why are you derailing the vagina thread with this shit when literally not a single person asked.

No. 476412

>>476411
I mean it was part of my yeast infection story and anons don't usually have a bizarre/hostile reaction for no reason, when others share funny/fucked up things like this. You're free to just not address the post at all you know

No. 476413

>>476401
It's not a narrative, it's a fact. You're simply choosing to see it as tantamount to being called a dirty stank pussy slut, which is unfortunately a common reaction. Perceived shaming and rejection of the idea of optimal vaginal health is partially why women are taught that their crotches are supposed to be in a perpetual state of disrepair, hence the need for this thread in the first place.

There are women whose microbiomes are near-instantly restored to default after a rare unprotected sexual encounter, that is the point of hostile acidic microbiome. But the chances of that happening with regular (think 3 times per week) re-exposure and a chronic disease are probably near zero. Yours is likely not 70% l.crispatus, which is "optimal" but not common and therefore can't be called "normal".

No. 476414

>>476413
Why are you even assuming the frequency of my sexual life kek. We have sex like three times a month. Anyway I really don't give a fuck, my results have been normal coming back every pap smear so I'm good.

No. 476416

>>476414
Oh my god anon has a PH lower than semen/Nigel's dick and some women don't. It's not that complicated

No. 476417

>>476414
Because my initial "narrative", the one that upset you, implied regular sex (repeated introduction of diverse microbial communities). If you only have sex 3 times per month it's likely enough downtime for things to fix themselves, obviously.

No. 476419

>>476417
It didn't upset me it just annoyed me due to your annoying tone.

No. 476421

File: 1737837822177.jpg (227.83 KB, 2250x1583, queen_acid_stacy.jpg)

>>476416
>>476417
dw you guys I'm something of a scientist myself so have created picrel resolve this debate

No. 476423

>>476421
KEKKKKKK

No. 476424

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6743080/

>There has been debate about whether bacterial vaginosis can be classified as an STD as opposed to a sexually associated condition; however, the preponderance of evidence demonstrates that bacterial vaginosis can be sexually transmitted from women to male and female partners.44,45 Epidemiologic studies have consistently associated bacterial vaginosis with risk factors associated with STD.44,46 More frequent vaginal intercourse is associated with increased risk of bacterial vaginosis.30 Multiple, new, or increased number of male partners are strongly associated with bacterial vaginosis in multiple studies.34,44 Recent unprotected sex as evidenced by the presence of prostate-specific antigen in vaginal fluid has been associated with a more than twofold increased risk of bacterial vaginosis47 and recurrent bacterial vaginosis48 and is negatively associated with the presence and concentration of healthy Lactobacillus species.34 Additionally, there is a significant association between bacterial vaginosis and female sex partners,29 because women who have sex with women appear to be at increased risk when compared with women who have sex with men only.29,46 There is a strong inverse association between bacterial vaginosis and condom use.44 In one study, bacterial vaginosis–associated bacteria were detected more commonly in the urine and coronal sulcus of men with asymptomatic STDs than in healthy men.49 Finally, both bacterial vaginosis by Nugent scoring50 and detection of bacterial vaginosis–associated anaerobes29 are far less frequent in sexually inexperienced than in sexually experienced women.

No. 476426

>>476421
not to be a party pooper but virgin-chan is the most likely to be acidic

No. 476428

File: 1737838368285.gif (4.85 MB, 600x600, reee_i_am_the_acidic_anon.gif)

>>476424
>>476426

No. 476429

>>476426
I can confirm

No. 476430

>>475946
>receptive digital sex (either vaginal or anal) does not seem to be associated with bacterial vaginosis
None of the relevant ones it seems

No. 476431

>>476426
Whoever doesn't require BV/yeast infection meds more than once or twice, has a naturally acidic vagina. Anons in relationships or single who require these products have a vagina that leans alkaline or neutral. The virgin sperging is annoying and moid-coded, please stop

No. 476439

>>476431
BV and dysbiosis can be asymptomatic and are clearly associated with sexual activity. Generally you need symptoms to pursue those meds, unless you're a recreational metronidazole enjoyer.

I'm glad you think women should keep having health issues so you don't "feel like a whore" or whatever it is that got you pussyblasted, but maybe try ignoring the stuff you don't like.

No. 476440

>>476439
>and are clearly associated with sexual activity.
>are clearly associated
>associated
moving on

No. 476475

>>476349
Anon… That's because typically women aren't going to talk about it when their vaginas are fine and healthy.

No. 476495

>>476424
>risk factors include having sex with men
>but women who have sex with women are at a higher risk
wat. Am I stupid at reading or does this make no sense

No. 476500

>>476495
Nta but yeah apparently lesbians will have a higher rate of BV compared to straight women, I think it's just due to the different floras being introduced to each other? Idk.

No. 476501

>>476500
That's weird because you'd think when two pussies combine, they get stronger.

No. 476502

>>476495
Women who have sex with women can also have sex with men

No. 476503

>>476502
Are you still on this?

No. 476507

>>476500
So then it’s not about dick cooties after all??? Just if your pussy touches -anything- it will scare itself like a cat?

No. 476508

>>476507
I guess so! That's what it feels like, it's why I've never tried an IUD kek.

No. 476509

>>476502
Sure but if that was the reason, then the rates would be comparable or not quite as high, but instead we see they’re actually higher. Which doesn’t make sense imo

No. 476510

>>476507
It just means some women have alkaline vaginas and it's heavily related to diet. I posted the Alkaline Trio video but felt bad doing that to the thread but that's basically what it would be, or one neutral vagina and one alkaline (which means prone to yeast/bacterial infections)

No. 476515

>>476503
Are you still malding? But why?

No. 476516

>>476515
Anon I'm participating heavily in this discussion and we are objectively being annoying

No. 476523

>>476516
I'm not that anon and I agree, you are both objectively annoying.

No. 476533

>>476523
I agree but I'm really just trying to say that vaginas lean acidic or alkaline and it makes a big difference to your sexual health. It's not about whose pussy has been the least impacted by Nigel-dick, unless he is a manwhore fucking women with STIs (who most likely have alkaline-leaning vaginas). My annoying friend virgin-chan is blaming moids which is fun but doesn't actually help women understand their vaginas (the purpose of this thread)

No. 476546

>>476516
Anon, I am participating too and you're trying to #shutitdown.

No. 476550

>>476533
But vaginas are acidic or alkaline depending on the microbiome. Acidic = hydrogen peroxide producing lactobacilli, alkaline = anaerobes.

No. 476552

>>476546
No you or the other anon are correct too and that most moids are manwhores who spread disease to women. I just have a lot of knowledge on the acidic/alkaline thing and think it's important enough to share with other women that I don't mind being annoying. It's pretty easy to change your diet to help your vagina lean more acidic and cheaper than buying tons of yeast infection products or blaming it on a moid and calling it a day

No. 476554

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I'm >>476047 and i'm surprised every single answer to my comment has completely ignored the fact that I did actually go to a gynecologist and have been told this issue is probably due to the fact that I was severely ill with high fevers and on heavy medication right before I started being sexually active and it will eventually get better, lol.
>inb4 nigel cheating, wrap up
This is extremely unlikely, not everyone has a relationship with a crusty eboy with 4 discord kittens. He even did a course of antifungal and antibiotic medications just in case he was contributing to the issue.

No. 476556

>>476554
>do the same things
I think this is where you confused people. If you've never had issues with your Nigel before that, then it would be a health/PH change in your vagina and you would only need to reestablish the healthy flora you had before (but you probably already know that). Virgin-chan is the anon who believes that moids (and their acidic semen) are causing women's vaginas to turn alkaline, en masse

No. 476557

>>476556
I guess I did forget to mention I wasn't sexually active before that, so that one is on me.

No. 476573

>>476554
You should wrap it up albeit.

No. 476590

>>476552
Diet is obviously impactful. But surely you don't believe you can reliably treat BV with it, especially if it's being constantly reintroduced?

No. 476592

File: 1737854234512.jpg (44.36 KB, 600x600, crispact.jpg)

>>476554
Are you a burgernona? If not, you can try pic related. No promises, but apparently this strain was studied for HPV and intended to be a prescription in the US. Years later, yuros seem to have it OTC and burgers don't have it at all.

(Most OTC "vaginal probiotics" you see in the US do not have this, instead it's other random lactobacilli like gasseri or rhamnosus.)

No. 476593

>>476556
>their acidic semen
you're going to make everyone's vag rot off with your "expertise" kek

No. 476594

Semen is acidic?

No. 476600

>>476594
No, it's alkaline. And it needs to make the vagina alkaline so that the sperm wouldn't die, so it does exactly that. I'm not sure where fattychan got her PhD in the acidic/alkaline.

No. 476647

>>476033
ayrt, we're married and I have my tubes tied so we don't use condoms anymore, and I had issues with UTIs and yeast infections when we used them as well. I'm immunocompromised (psoriatic arthritis) so this could be a very me-specific situation, but after going working with my gyno and a urologist this has been the best solution for me that causes the least side effects.

No. 476680

>>476600
>>476593
>but women who have sex with women are at a higher risk
Why would this be if semen is always alkaline anon? It's almost like there is fluctuation between individuals and semen is (always/reliably) between 6.9-8.2 whereas vaginal PH can vary between 3-9

No. 476681

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How do I measure the pH of my vagina? Now I'm really curious.

No. 476683

>>476681
>How do you do this test? You hold a piece of pH paper against the wall of your vagina for a few seconds, then compare the color of the pH paper to the color on the chart provided with the test kit. The number on the chart for the color that best matches the color on the pH paper is the vaginal pH number.
A lot of women who have vaginal issues outside of moid relationships tend to have more alkaline ph than semen, that's where it gets confusing. If you're wlw and one is prone to yeast infections/bv (etc) it's good to test so you can make small changes to your diet get closer to hers

No. 476692

>>476681
taste it.

No. 476694

>>476683
Buying pH test strips right now.

>>476692
And then what? What is basic/acidic vagina supposed to taste like?

Also PhD nonna needs to tell us what diet changes you should do to manipulate your pussy's pH.

No. 476695

File: 1737883907984.jpg (Spoiler Image,210.31 KB, 800x1200, unnamed.jpg)

>>476694
I think that anon is joking but the "Barbi twins" used to tell interviewers they tasted each others vaginas, to check their health or something. They had tons of mental issues and severe anorexia. I mean they're not wrong, acidic vaginas taste more acidic but who knows wtf they were looking for

>tell us what diet changes you should do to manipulate your pussy's pH.
samefag coming just a sec

No. 476696

File: 1737884218065.jpg (704.05 KB, 3000x2798, alkaline_lies.jpg)

>>476695
>>476694
A lot of fruits are listed as "alkaline" even though they lean acidic, because they're not taking sugar into account. It's more about what you remove or limit and that should be sugar or foods that are broken down by the body into sugars. Alcohol/drinking too much is a big one and really bad for vaginal flora. I apologize anons that my "evidence" is that shitty cap from some moid's health site but it's one of those things that studies are slower to catch up on, probably due to lack of interest in funding and billion dollar fem. hygiene industry (as tinfoil as it sounds). I'm used to mainstream opinion outdated though because of the troons

No. 476697

>>476696
Is this the same reason that gay moids get told to eat pineapple?

No. 476699

File: 1737884785272.jpg (133.75 KB, 1920x1080, pineapple_anon.jpg)

>>476697
kek probably, good point. It would make a lot more sense than the flavour of the pineapple somehow ending up in their balls. With a lower ph, the bacteria (bad smell/taste) would be more likely to be neutralized. Very alkaline semen (and vaginas) are more likely to smell fishy and unpleasant, due to bacteria overgrowth

No. 476702

>>476694
I was kidding, but I used to study chemistry and a lab tech did stick his finger in a solution and lick it to test if it was acidic or not. In case we have mad scientists here; acidic is easy- the more sour it is the more acidic. Like lemon juice. Basic/alkaline is more metallic/bitter. Like baking soda.

No. 476705

>>476702
>acidic is easy- the more sour it is the more acidic
Ty anon, it's hard to say that outright because mainstream opinion is so confusing but (imo) it's probably as easy as incorporating more naturally sour foods like citrus/pineapple and eliminating exactly what you would expect (alcohol, fast food, refined sugars, etc)

No. 476713

>>476705
Oh no I have no idea about food and nutrition I was talking about vagoo taste. Also if it tastes like unflavored yoghurt that means it’s almost completely pH neutral.

No. 476716

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>>476713
I'm totally guessing when it comes to diet, there's not much research when it comes to this (that don't consider fucking lemons alkaline ffs).
>it tastes like unflavored yoghurt
I think this has something to do with enzymes. The other way a ph neutral vagina has been described is fresh mango, which have high enzyme activity as they ripen (and obv. yogurt does too)

No. 476720

>>476716
what is that??? it looks like a avocado but avocados have pits??????

No. 476724

File: 1737893785132.png (1.29 MB, 1138x1328, mango_vagina.png)

>>476720
It is a ripe mango cut in half, shot in bad lighting

https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyvagina/comments/f4v9zn/this_mango_at_my_workplace/

Here is another mango vagina, in poor lighting. As they ripen they resemble odd vaginas as the fruit separates from the pit (increased enzyme activity)

https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/1defnn/this_overripe_mango_looks_like_a_vagina/

No. 476728

>>476713
Yoghurt is sour, not ph neutral. But yes. Both the vagina and yoghurt is sour due to lactobacillius.

No. 476986

How are your experiences with gynos? I saw one once ever, and was so put off that I didn't even get IUD I went there for. I need to start getting pap smears, but I keep hearing horror stories from women about painful, even traumatizing experiences from doctors who don't take them seriously.

No. 476995

>>476986
I haven't ever had a pap smear specifically, but did have a pelvic exam and multiple cervical swabs taken while in hospital recently. 3 or 4 different women were standing in the room watching while it happened, and the one who did it was really kind and kept telling me to let her know if anything hurt or if I wanted her to stop throughout the whole process (she looked to be in her 20s, which may have made a difference regarding attitude). Having the speculum put in was the worst part, it burned really badly, but was still tolerable enough for me to let her continue. As for the swabs themselves, I don't think I really felt them aside from a bit of pressure. My vagina did burn a lot afterwards because of the speculum, but it didn't last for too long. I will say that the whole procedure did feel INSANELY invasive for me due to how intimate it was, multiple people being in the room, and the fact I'd never experienced it before, but I wasn't really bothered by it as no men were present and everyone was nice. Along with the doctor/s themselves, I think how well it goes really depends on if you are able to tolerate things touching your cervix. For some women it doesn't hurt, while for others it's agonising (I fall into the former category). Also, this is probably obvious, but I would insist you ask in advance for only a woman to do it if you hadn't already planned on doing so. I would have definitely been traumatised if a male doctor had done it or was present in the room, although I do also have past sexual trauma and I am terrified of male doctors in general.

No. 477017

>>476986
pap is obsolete and gives many false positives. don't get them. in general question every gynecological treatment and look into it taking anecdotes into account. most gynecology is not necessary or even helpful.

No. 477023

>>477017
Nta, can you link some sources on this? Not doubting you, I'm just curious to learn about it further.

No. 477029

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>>476986
The only pap smear I have ever gotten was so fucking painful I can't even describe how awful it was. I was crying on the table. Literally feels like they take a mascara spoolie and twirl it around in your cervix. I bled for over 2 weeks after even though they say "you should only spot for 2 days max" yeah okay that's bullshit. And just felt cramps inside of my body those 2 weeks where I assume my cervix is, it was awful. It was so retarded, she said I'm bleeding so much that she gave me a pad and told me I should get tested for fucking chlamydia (apparently that makes your cervix bleed) even though it was literally impossible for me to have an STI. Guess what, I did not fucking have chlamydia kek. I no longer even go to the gynecologist cause I'm over it, I know it's not good advice but I genuinely feel so traumatized from it and just gaslit about my own pain and dismissed as if I'm a retard who doesn't know my own body. I wonder if it's because I do have mental health issues (depression, anxiety, past suicide attempt, past self harm that required ER visit, past anorexia that I was inpatient for) that are recorded in my medical file so they just treat me like shit? I don't know. I know this isn't very positive and probably not good advice since it is a test for detecting cancer and shit, but I feel like it's good to be honest about how shit some doctors are. Also there HAS TO BE a better way to screen for cancer. A spoolie? Twirled around in the cervix hole? There just has to be a better way, it's bullshit.

No. 477031

>>476986
Went for a post-op checkup (total hysterectomy). These doctors say "nobody has ever said it hurt before…" and surprise, I was the first person to say it hurts. Then again, my shit's totally busted or warped, which I'm guessing is some sort of birth defect I never bothered checking. The internal ultrasound hurt so bad I had to stop them.

I only went to them to get the hysterectomy because of heavy periods. Never going back.

No. 477032

>>477031
>"nobody has ever said it hurt before
liars. My advice is to look around for a better gyn if you can. Get one that is gentle and are able to feel some kind of empathy for others. I've had terrible experiences but also good ones with kind doctors.

No. 477035

>>477029
A lot of women have zero negative experience with this but a portion of women have a painful one. It could have to do with how your gynecologist handled it, or something else. It might be worth looking around to try to find a new one with positive reviews regarding patient care and comfort and ask in advance about your bad experience with this procedure, and refuse to get it done if they aren’t receptive to working with you to make it more comfortable and less damaging. STIs are a reason that you can experience intense bleeding and pain afterwards though so they do have to screen for it (and patients often lie about if it’s possible, so they basically have to check anyway), but there are also other possible reasons like infections and some genetic conditions. Generally there’s an underlying reason for a negative reaction to the sampling that is causing the cervical tissue to be weaker, so a bad response is usually taken as a warning sign to begin with of possible pregnancy, illness, or cancer. But if it was none of those then you may have a genetic condition that gives you thinner tissue, so your doctor should be working with you to determine that.
>>477017
False positives exist in pretty much all preliminary medical testing. Women shouldn’t just wait around to die of common cancer types.
>>476986
My biggest advice is never go to men or to an older gyn. Find a woman who is fairly young and up to date, they usually have better practices. Also, driving a longer distance if you must to see a doctor in a better area is worth it imo.

No. 477661

I started taking contraceptives in december due to becoming sexually active again. First month everything went well but when I started the second cycle I started menstruating. It's no really menstruation, it's a dark, thick liquid. Apparently it's normal to get that for a few days when taking the pill nonstop but it's been almost a month now. I managed to get a doctor's appointment at the end of Feb. What does this bleeding mean?

No. 477686

I don't think I have a yeast infection, but I noticed that after showering my crotch still has a musky smell. Like if I dry myself with a towel that scent will be on the towel. Is this something that would lessen if I went back to trimming or shaving my pubes?

No. 477690

>>477686
Is it a new smell? How musty is it, can you describe it more? Have you noticed any difference in your secretions? I'm not a doctor but I've had internal yeast infections that didn't itch and I only realized they were happening because my secretions were a bit thicker than normal for that point in my cycle. If you have one of those it could be affecting your smell.

No. 477800

>>477686
How much time do you spend cleaning it in the shower? Do you sweat a lot?

No. 477891

>>476986
ive had 3 paps, its no problem, uncomfrortable sometimes a bit of blood spotting but not nearly as bad you think it is. feels like what it is, a scrape. its over in 3-5 minutes. my old as female indian gp does them. i personally know 3 women in their 40s whove had cervical cancer who have never even got a pap, so its easier to get tested than go through much longer surgery and chemo if something bad gets detected late.

No. 478321

>>477800
I do sweat a lot and I also exercise so I’ll try to be more thorough with washing and drying. I also used to use baby wipes after workouts so I’ll try those again if I think I need it

No. 478398

>>478321
Hopefully that should solve the problem, I don't work out but I also find that mine usually has a musty smell if I don't spend enough time washing it in the shower. The routine that I find always works well for me is thoroughly wiping it down with baby wipes before showering, and then spending extra time making sure everything gets rinsed down properly before I get out. A little weird, but you can also try using a hair dryer on a low cold setting to dry off everything down there, it's more effective than a towel and feels a lot more hygenic.

No. 479913

Anons who shave, wax or use hair remover. Which do you find is best? Also why do you? I have done for a long time as I like how soft I feel when I first shave and I feel cleaner but inb4 before anyone replies saying hair isn’t dirty I know it isn’t but it is a personal preference

No. 479914

>>479913
I wax. Shaving technically does not incentivise growth but it makes your hair appear darker and fuller because all of your hair grows at the same time with a squarish shape. Hair remover is not worth it because i'm hairy so it costs a lot and it's not permanent. Wax is affordable, has a great finish look, and it reduces hair growth overtime.

No. 479947

>>479914
do you wax yourself? or do you go to have it done? how long do you go between sessions?

No. 480452

>>479947
I used to go to the beautician, now i do wax myself, if i want to keep a clean look i'd say every 2-3 weeks. I forgot to add but, waxing is better to avoid ingrown and splitted hair! It's pretty painful to do it by myself because i can mess up though. I'd say, if you are sensitive around that area, get it done by a beautician.

No. 480518

>>479913
I sugar my bikini line and use an electric trimmer on the rest


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