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No. 559341

Previous thread: >>433552

Whether your goal is to become more fit, lose weight, maintain/improve your general health, etc., this thread is for sharing your health journey and supporting others on theirs. Reminder that we're all human, and we all have our ups and downs. Don't blame yourself for failing, and don't get fixated on small missteps. This is a marathon, not a race. Self-sabotage will only make things worse. Try to stay positive and think of the positive steps you've made to get here and keep moving forward! Don't get fixated on numbers, and give yourself adequate rest days and rewards to keep yourself motivated.

No. 559345

Why did you change the description though?

No. 559350

>>559345
the OP was too lengthy/rambling as it contained too much elaboration, no one actually uses it like the OP says to, and something about inviting people to post stats seems off to me as many users here have EDs (not that i'm explicitly against it).

No. 559356

I dont even think its worth it anymore, I am very overweight and have been trying to lose weight but then the realization of loose skin kicked in and now i just dont wanna do anything

any girls here who have lost like a lot of weight? I need tips for loose skin I cant do this

No. 559710

Kek at the hello kitty thread pic op. That’s me lately.

No. 559745

>>559341
Bad thread pic. This isn't "how to become a deathfat general"
The picture should inspire to take care of your health.

No. 559747

What’s the biggest motivating factor that keeps you going on your health journeys, nonnies? What do you do to keep yourself motivated when you want to cheat on your calories/workouts?

For me it’s clothes. There are other things that matter, but honestly? I’m just vain and I like dressing nicely. If I ever feel unmotivated I browse Pinterest, clothing sites, or I go and try on my clothes that are too small right now.

No. 559753

I just need to be more active. Physically and weight wise I'm alright but if my heart beats this fast after going up only 4 flights of stairs I'm going to die soon.

No. 559758

>>559356
Lose weight slowly and steadily to give your skin time to adjust.

No. 559779

>>559747
>What’s the biggest motivating factor that keeps you going on your health journeys, nonnies? What do you do to keep yourself motivated when you want to cheat on your calories/workouts?
Self hatred. Looking in the mirror, I'm seeing things I've never seen before like backrolls. I know it's coupled with age and genetics (even the skinny ones in my family have backrolls at this age..) but damn. I hit a wall after my surgery.

No. 559901

>>559747
I have a job that exposes me to many different kinds of people. It’s sorta mean but I feel motivated to skip dessert or that piece of fried chicken when I meet people who look like shit. Little things like bad skin, bad teeth, poor posture, eating junk food/Starbucks, no intellectually or physically stimulating hobbies. I’m not exactly a pinnacle of health but I stay slim just by denying myself daily garbage. I don’t eat processed sugar anymore and that alone makes such a difference in reduced weight and bloating.

No. 559908

>>559747
remembering the weight i had throughout my life being ruined by medication. i refused to let it just happen.

No. 559910

>>559747
As someone with adhd I struggle with motivation so I’ve kept my gym mat and clothes rolled out permanently on my floor. If the barrier to start is as easy as possible it’s Easier to convince myself to get started. Plus the dopamine and adrenaline I do get from it working out helps regulate my brain (I’m unmedicated)

No. 559918

Today marks my first full year anniversary of working out 5 times a week and changing up my diet. I'm so happy with what I've accomplished so far.
>Starting stats:
>231 pounds, 45% fat (at 5''6)
>Now
>144 pounds, 24% fat

The first month I didn't focus on calories, or specific workouts or anything. I just focused on going in every single day. Even if I was only doing 10 mins of cardio, and like 1 set of lifts, I didn't care, as long as I went into the gym and did it everyday. Once I got into the habit a bit more, I added 1 more work out every 2 weeks, and increased my cardio time by 1-2 minutes. On top of that, because I have some bad OCD concerning counting calories I made it my mission to not count any but just make healthy choices. One of my meals is always a salad, no sweets/sodas of any kind, every meal has to have a big protein component etc. Never had a sweet tooth to begin with so the diet part wasn't bad. I eyeballed most things and just accepted my body's change as it went. I also completely quit alcohol which was huge for me as I drank weekly.

Now I've refined that a lot more, and do 5 different weights/lifts each day depending on my focus (lower or upper body etc) and always include 30 cardio a day min (not more than that since my focus is now hypertrophy). I do progressive loads on all my weight training, and make sure to rest 2 mins per set, 12-16 reps per set, x5. I don't have the time to walk for 20k steps (even with an under table walker unfortunately, what I do for work makes it impossible), but I do everything else I can to make the 'better' choice (walk instead of car etc). I have to say, to those nonas struggling for being consistent and motivated, if you change your mindset to focus on body recomp and just being consistent instead of 'gotta be super thin!' and beating yourself down everyday you're not your goal weight, it makes a huge difference. Not saying it's easy, I still have days where I eat like crap for a day, but I forgive myself and go to gym and do it again next day. I'm at a point now where I feel weird if I DON'T work out and that little voice in my head that always said 'hurr be thin' is mostly gone. I'm just happy that I'm strong and am able to do so much more than I could last year. I still have a lot more to go, but I woke up today and was proud of my body for once in a very long time, and I know if I can, you can as well. Good luck and keep going to all the nonas at it.

No. 559929

i haven't worked out in a week, i'm really far from my twice/week goal

No. 559984

>>559918
Nona, this is so freaking awesome. You inspire me!!

No. 559997

>>559745
Can't we have a bit of a joke sometimes

No. 560008

>>559745
the implication that you believe chubby Hello Kitty is inspiration to become fat is oddly adorable.

No. 560035

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I am 5’3 and my natural weight is about 130. I successfully got down to 112 over the course of about a year of a very strict small-portion size diet, and maintained for around 6 months. Then I lost my job and my motivation to adhere to my strict guidelines and I started eating just a tiny bit more, maybe an extra 200-250 calories a day at most. Within just 3 weeks, I had gained all the way back to 122, eliminating many months of my progress nearly instantly. It really shocked me how fast it happened. Why does it take 6 months to lose, but only a couple weeks of mild cheating to gain it all back? It’s just not fair.

Since then, I’ve been trying to lose back down to my 112 weight, but somehow I am still gaining about 2 pounds a week. I am scared it’s going to go back all the way up to where I was before I even started working so hard to lose it last year. I think my problem is I need to eat more protein to feel fuller, but I am flexitarian and don’t want to eat more meat. I eat so many beans and lentils for protein, but they don’t keep me full like meat does. So what do I do, stop eating meatless meals, or gain back all my weight? I feel so defeated and sad watching almost all my progress disappear in an instant.

No. 560048

>>560035
Are you exercising or just dieting? It's really hard to stay that far below your natural weight if you're not burning lots of calories. I'm a firm proponent of women eating so I don't think you should deny yourself meat which you need for B12 and iron. Do you like fish? I pretty much exclusively eat salmon filets and eggs.

No. 560066

>>560035
In theory you really shouldn't have gained 10 pounds. 250 calories a day more for three weeks should only be enough for about 2 pounds and that's if yo store all of it. Maybe there's something else going on? Are you sure you're counting calories correctly or perhaps there's an underlying medical issues that makes it difficult for you to lose weight?

No. 560068

>>560035
Just eat the meat. If its for ethical purposes, buying local meat is better than vegans options anyway

No. 560069

>>560035
im the same height (well a little under but ill round it up) and im 135-ish lbs and it sucks so bad. i miss being 112 pounds so much but ive struggled to lose weight after i was on zoloft for about half a year. if it makes you feel better i wish i was 122lbs lol

No. 560175

>>560035
because your body wants to cling to as much weight as possible, it's a survival mechanism sadly. once you get past like 24 that's what is going to start happening. you just have to keep restricting. exercise doesn't do shit for weight, and i just exercise for general health. to lose weight at a certain age you just have to consume less. ime your stomach shrinks and gets used to it. i fill up on small meals like a container of yogurt, and if i'm extra hungry some granola in it. if i want to cheat and eat something unhealthy, then that will be my only meal of the day. get some fiber pills too, they stave off hunger, plus fiber is good for you. as far as meat, do you like jerky? turkey jerky in those round little roll things are great.

No. 560271

>>560175
>if i want to cheat and eat something unhealthy, then that will be my only meal of the day.
Nta, but I'm also desperate to lose weight but if I eat a burger and have to starve the entire day Id rather just be a fatass. Come on now. 25 is too old to put up with eating disorder shenanigans. People have jobs.

No. 560285

>>560175
This sounds like a depressing way to live

No. 560300

was uncomfortably full but instinctively ate the boiled egg anyway. i had a slice of toast and another boiled egg, so its not as though i ate a whole lot, but i really would like to practice not feeling like i need to clear my plate, be it a healthy or unhealthy meal. what has worked for you nonnies? im not going to feel guilty over this but i just want to program my brain to feel okay leaving food on the plate and “wasting” money

No. 560319

>>560175
>meal
>a container of yogurt
Take your ana-chan sperging elsewhere.

No. 560396

>>560175
>it's a survival mechanism sadly. once you get past like 24 that's what is going to start happening
Where did you get this idea? This is simply not true. Here's some news: metabolism doesn't slow down with age. There are no such excuses for getting fat anymore.

No. 560444

>>560300
I try to practice serving myself the exact amount of food I need to be sated and not the amount my hungry stomach thinks it can handle. Sure I CAN put away a bunch of rice with my salmon and veggies, but if I cut out the rice then it’s still a complete meal and I’m not hungry anymore but not stuffed either. I also try to cook things that make good leftovers, so if I get full early it doesn’t feel like I’m wasting anything.

No. 560474

>>560271
>>560285
>>560319
it's the meme of "be happy or skinny". it's not for health. i'm not ana i'm just vain and want to be 110 pounds. that's how you lose and keep weight off as you get older, especially if you take certain meds like me.

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>>560474

No. 560531

>>560526
where am i being cranky? everyone else replied really aggressively lol.

No. 560553

Farmers, sorry if this is the wrong thread but has anyone used over the counter diuretics for chronic water bloating before their period? I literally gain 2 inch’s around the waist and it’s really depressing, also physically I feel like shit ect. What are the pros and cons of each one? I always associated the idea of diuretics with EDS and didn’t realize it was actually made for a legit use. I’ve already been drinking lemon juice in the morning and it helps, but the effects are very subtle.

No. 560617

>>560526
800 calories is actually quite a lot. thats like 2 burritos or 2 large slices of a rich cream cake.
i think the 2000 calorie thing is outdated, honestly. it was made for a time when people were more outdoorsy and active. 90% of people these days live very sedentary lives, drive everywhere, sit down and use the pc or phone for hours and hours at a time. when i was working from home, 500 cals a day was enough for me to feel full and not feel faint or hungry. you really dont need more than 800-1000 calories a day imo unless you're going to the gym a lot or walking a ton.
a yogurt or piece of toast for breakfast, a light sandwich, and some grilled protein and veggies is enough to eat everyday, and shouldnt be more than 800 calories.

No. 560626

>>560617
You're just wrong

No. 560628

>>560626
well if you wanna trust the fda who has helped make billions of people fat, then go ahead. obesity will always be 100x more prevalent and dangerous than anorexia.(baiting)

No. 560638

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>>560626
You shouldn’t exceed 1200 a day if your goal is weight loss and this is true for most humans. Also tons of cultures fast and consume way fewer calories than Americans. It’s normal and you don’t have to call people anorexic for this. You’re just mad you can’t lose weight without changing calorie intake(*bones rattling*)

No. 560643

nonas is there any way to induce miscarriages at home? does caffeine and smoking actually work? I can't afford meds(baiting)

No. 560659

>>560638
thank you for this. but japanese people are also a lot shorter and smaller than americans on average too so it makes sense they require less calories.

No. 560674

>>560643
there's a lot of different herbal teas. look for things that induce uterine contractions or menstruation.

No. 560675

>>560638
There is no way most Japanese adults only eat 800 calories a day. 1000 I could believe but 800? Ain’t no way in hell.

No. 560678

>>560675
>A typical traditional Japanese breakfast includes steamed rice (gohan), miso soup, grilled fish, pickled vegetables (tsukemono), fermented soybeans (natto), and a side of seaweed. Many people also enjoy eggs, such as tamagoyaki (rolled omelet) or onsen tamago (soft-boiled egg), and green tea.
All of those foods are zero or low calorie.

>A typical Japanese dinner often includes rice, a soup (like Miso soup), pickles, salad, and various protein and vegetable dishes, according to The Spruce Eats.
This probably wouldnt be more than 300-400 calories.

No. 560683

>>560678
>>560675
That’s a low end but obesity affects 42% of Americans. That’s almost half the country. No other county even comes close aside from Australia and the UK. Call all those other countries anorexic if you want but it’s literally calories in calories out. Sorry.

No. 560689

Don't bother arguing with her it's obvious the prolonged starvation has eaten away at her brain. Let her starve herself like an edgy teenager if that's what she wants.

No. 560698

>>559918
What difference did you find doing cardio daily vs separate cardio / lift days?

No. 560710

>>560689
Overweight(baiting/infighting)

No. 560731

This is not an anorexia thread. Don't come in posting unhealthy tips. Don't respond to baits, please report them and move on.

No. 560753

>>560698
I always did cardio daily ever since I started. I would do my weight training first, with the the first exercise the main focus (For me it's always RDLs or leg press, I started with machines when I first first started lifting until I got my form right). After all my weights I'd do cardio. I know there's a lot of bs out there about how cardio ruins hypertrophy but it's actually good for you as long as you either keep a long but low HR cardio (walking on treadmill for 30 mins+) or a short high HR (running/swimming etc for max 20 mins). The biggest thing I noticed about cardio days on the rare times I skip it is that my mental health is kinda messed for the day (I have anxiety like the whole day), I don't sleep too well that night, and I can't eat as much that day (which might sound like a bonus for CICO but it fucks with my lift BADLY the next day). I really don't like being skinnyfit and my kind of anxiety makes it hard for me to eat when I'm stressed, so cardio to me has mostly been a blessing for mental health than weightloss.

No. 560800

>>560731
Saying 1200 is plenty for weight loss and most countries consume that much or less and aren’t obese like Americans isn’t anorexia. Dumb fatass mod(Baiting infight)

No. 560973

>>560753
Thanks I appreciate you going into details. I was worried about the cardio killing gains from either weights or bodyweight, but since low rate steady state seems to be ok I'll add it on. I kinda get what you mean about the mental aspect, I feel much better after cardio too, even if I didn't push myself very hard.

No. 561025

I blame the threadpic for all the negativity in this thread. The previous one didn't have this shit. Thanks a lot op

No. 561027

have any anons used posture correctors that actually work?

No. 561034

>>561027
Usually poor posture is caused from weak muscles. Walking helps strengthen your muscles in the back. It’s easy to add some more steps into your routine as well. Yoga is good too if you have time. But walking and some basic stretches help a lot more than people realise.

No. 561043

>>561034
i have one of those tiny treadmills i walk on at home and at work i'm walking around all day, but my pelvic tilt is insane. i've been standing all fucked up my whole life. also yoga hurts me, i have EDS so stretching is really hard. i'm not sure how to remind myself to stand better. i'll catch myself standing with my hips tilted and try to push them straighter but i don't notice it regularly

No. 561048

>>561043
>i'm not sure how to remind myself to stand better
You have weak abdominal muscles. You dont have to remind yourself to stand better if you work your abs every day. I recommend ab wheel and barbell workouts, they immediately transform your posture in a matter of days. Also pelvic tilt is associated with trauma stuff so worth looking into that because there could be some internal issue.

No. 561089

>>560678
Does rice really have no calories? I thought it would convert immediately into sugar.

No. 561220

>>561089
nta if you freeze rice it goes through a process called starch retrogradation and basically converts the 'starch' from rice into 'resistant starch'. Resistant starch acts more like fiber when youre digesting it, so while it might have the same carb %, it'll have less DIGESTIBLE carbs so it'll spike your insulin less (and during weightloss you wanna keep your insulin spikes as low as possible). I don't know about rice having no calories though.

No. 561227

I hiked 7.5 miles today. I saw a coyote, a herd of deer, and lots of woodpeckers and turkey vultures. I started at sunrise but it got hot really fast, I got back to my car right as I was starting to get nervous about the heat. Now I'm going to eat a lot of yummy food. What are you doing for your body today??

No. 561478

>>561027

I started doing stomach vacuuming while I’m sitting. Helps to create body awareness

No. 561506

>>561227

We have a park with one of those outdoor gym things, but I don't like walking the main road so I've never bothered to go. But yesterday I forced myself to go for a walk around the block. I'm so lazy and perimenopausal, and my metabolism has basically stalled in the last year. I struggle to motivate myself, even though I have plenty of fun, low-commiment exercise options (I do Nordic walking, hula hooping, and Qigong. Except, most of the time I don't, cos I'm lazy.) I find that I have to set the bar really low otherwise i won't even start.
So my goal was to just go for a stroll after work. But once I was out there, I decided to see if I could get to the outdoor gym via the neighbourhood, and how long it would take. Took about 15 minutes, and using the equipment was kinda fun! Also I enjoyed seeing people's houses and gardens. It gave me a better feel for the area even though we've lived here quite a few years now. So ultimately I ended up getting a 30 minute walk and some mild weight training! But, I'm still feeling bummed it's taken me 4 weeks to lose 3lbs. A few years ago I lost about 35lbs at a steady pace of 1-2lbs a week, through calorie counting… and it's crept up. I am now 14lbs away from my old goal and the weight isn't moving like it did last time. So frustrating. But, I'll keep trying.

No. 561561

>>561089
Rice has calories. All food has calories. You're replying to someone who's either baiting or retarded, or both.
>>560300
Put less food on your plate. Use a smaller plate, or spread the food out so it looks like there's more.
If you fixate on leaving food on your plate you're probably going to fuck up by giving yourself massive portions and leaving half of it and feeling like you did something, when in reality you just overate by hundreds of calories.
Learn to plate up normal portions in a way that makes you feel like you're not depriving yourself of food and you'll be fine.

No. 561603

My airfryer chicken tastes like boiled chicken sometimes, how do I prevent this. It gets worse after I freeze it.

No. 561689

>>561220
I don't think this is true, the article the youtuber links contains a dead link (so much for credible sources), the first article about this study I can find is from 2015, so this might be the study in question: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26693746/

>The results showed that resistant starch contents in control rice, test rice I, and test rice II were 0.64 g/100 g, 1.30 g/100 g, and 1.65 g/100 g, respectively

I'm not a biologist, but how is an increase of 1g of resistant starch between the test rice and the cooled rice supposed to result in a 60% calorie reduction? And how come I've never heard of this amazing technique, when it's been known since 2015?

No. 562019

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I've been a severe anachan and miachan for several years. I've been clean from ED habits for about 8 months now and I feel so much shame when I remember how I normalized the destruction of my body. The damage is done and irreversible. It got me nowhere in the end. Right now I'm at my happiest–I live a balanced life of a rich diet, exercise, and rest. Nonas who are restricting and purging, becoming skelly will never be worth it. I don't mean that you should give up physical activity and healthy foods; educate yourselves on what's right for your age and height. Do what makes your body systems function with greatest efficiency. Don't get affected by shooped twitterfags, skinny influencers, and runway model wannabes. Don't kill your heart and brain. I believe in you nonas and I wish all those affected a safe recovery.

No. 562050

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>>562019
It's so kind of you to think of the other nonas in this thread and look out for us, you have a sweet soul and I hope this life treats you with more grace. I'm happy to hear things are looking up for you, and congratulations for doing so well. You ought to give yourself more credit for chosing the right path and working so hard to get here. In terms of your recovery, what were some of the best parts to you?

No. 562061

>>562019
Congrats, anon. EDs are very difficult to overcome, especially if you had one for a long time. Hope you stay clean and wish you the best.

No. 562288

I don't understand the fights about calories. Some foods are filling, high in protein and low in calories. I had a bulking phase where all I ate was beans, tofu and pickled cabbage with rice lol

No. 562400

I let myself get fat again after a couple months of depression. Need to undo this asap. Back to eating only meat and vegetables I guess.

No. 562468

i don't get what he's doing differently in the second one

No. 562481

>>562468
In the first one he’s shrugging his shoulders to “help” the thrust, notice how his back is sorta rolling onto the bench with each thrust. By moving his back fully off the bench, all the weight is put onto his hips and it properly isolates the exercise.

No. 562576

>>562481
ah ok not helpful because i dont do this but my neck still hurts (my arms are super weak and wouldnt help me if i tried lol)

No. 562585

What ya do if someone gives you unsolicited advice at the gym?

No. 562648

>>562585
if anything respond how you need to work on so-and-so muscle before you can do it "better"

No. 562659

>>562648
And if it’s shit advice

No. 562684

>>562585
Tell them they're a retard and to fuck off

No. 562699

>>562585
This happens to me on a weekly basis at my gym and it's always the worst most annoying moids. I used to say thanks and walk away, but now I just give them the death stare for a prolonged awkward period of time, or say fuck off. 99% of the time it's some annoying scrote trying to flex on you and find an 'in' to talk to you. Don't even bother being 1% not rude back because they auto assume you're flirting back.

No. 562779

>>562699
True, but some girls can be really mean when you do your form differently than usual, too. I don’t think it’s always about hitting on you (though if you say more than just ‘hi’ and ‘bye,’ they’ll obviously try something). Some people at the gym think copying perfect form is more important than the mind-muscle connection, and if your form looks even slightly different from what they’ve seen on TikTok or Instagram, you’ll get stared at/corrected. I hate my long femurs, I always have to adjust the exercises.

No. 563016

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>>558382
Lmfao I read this post and wonder where all those Tumblrinas come from. This is false, a caloric deficit works for everything and everyone.

No. 563327

>>562019
Seconding this. I fucked up my thyroid after years of restriction and exercise addiction. I wish I could go back and just get therapy and develop healthy habits because being in recovery while also having an annoying lifelong medical problem sucks. I wasted so much time obsessing over numbers when I could have been living.
To stay on topic, I wish everyone here good luck with their health journeys but please take care of yourselves mentally as well. It's annoying but the most moderate diet and exercise path that you enjoy will also stick with you the longest.

No. 563768

>>563016
prepare to be banned by fat fuck mods who think 800-1200 calories a day is anorexia(baiting bone rattler)

No. 564035

>>563016
Women's bodies don't use food to power themselves, our bodies run on ♥love♥, to lose weight you have to shed the hate stored inside your fat cells using my juice cleanse! More info in bio ~

No. 564207

>>563768
800-1200 a day is anorexia unless you're very very short. Even on cut phases having 1200 a day isn't sustainable and eventually your body will crash. My cut phases are around 1500~1300 (I swap daily per week), at 5''7 that's a normal healthy amount. I used to do 800-1200 for years because of the 'hurr 1200 to be skinny!' bs I was fed for years and was stuck as a skinnyfat even though I worked out like crazy. You will never gain muscle with that amount of calories even with perfect macros. You should talk to a nutritionist or doctor since you seem to have a weird unhealthy mindset with calories and food. Wish the anas would just leave, they already have their proana thread AND forums.

No. 564213

>>564035
Hi Sage I bought your Love Shed Hate Weightloss juice clense for $50 in your bio and Iv'e been drinking it and it's been working but I'm having trouble keeping the weight off, I checked your HOW TO USE instructions and bought more so Iv'e been drinking 3L of your juice clense a day but i think im putting on water weight, is this normal?. I have'nt had anything other than my normal meals (3 burgers 5 large fries per meal as my DR instructed) but is there a particular juice clense that you reccomend that does'nt keep the water weight on? Thankyou.

No. 564244

>>564213
This is not normal. I advice you purcahse our stomach clenser tablets. You will take for 2 day and your stomach will be cleansed of all bad anergies so you can start a new! Consider meditation.

No. 564517

>>563768
It's not anorexia for me because I'm a womanlet but for taller anons it definitely is. Not everyone is the same as you.

No. 564519

Maybe TMI-adjacent, but what foods are the best for gut health alongside providing nutrition? I've been stocking up on beans first and foremost.

No. 564636

>>563768
You better start saving for some wigs because the hair loss is not gonna be kind to you, just saying

No. 564655

>>559747
I try to eat clean and move my body as much as I can so I don't get sick when I get older. Also, I care about my skin and posture

No. 564744

>>559356
>>559758
I lost weight slowly (1lb a week, sometimes not even that) for a total of 60lbs lost and still ended up with loose skin. It is really sad. At this point I'm skinny enough that you can see my ribs, yet my stomach is still not flat because it has a pooch of loose skin hanging down at the bottom, and I have flabby batwing upper arms.

No. 564862

Has anyone ever tried the inflammatory diet? Some girl at work was raving about it and it did make me feel motivated but you have to give up dairy (in addition to a lot of other stuff) but I just love milk so much. But if I can feel better living life instead of constantly feeling fatigue perhaps it'll be worth it.

No. 565304

>tfw can't deadlift more than50 kg because of the grip
i dont want to buy these gloves that grip for you though, i'm hoping my grip gets better as i push through, i can tell its getting better but so slow…

No. 565337

>>564862
If you're constantly fatigued I'd rule out deficiencies before doing some fad diet.

No. 565344

>>565304
Have you ever used those grip strength squeezer thingies? They help. Our wrists/fingers/ankles tend to lag behind the rest of our muscles.

No. 565349

>>565344
damn that's smart, i can fidget with it while studying

No. 565640

>>564519
kombucha, kimchi, flax seed and the like

No. 565645

>>564519
I love natto (I eat it over rice with a piece of salmon) and I make my protein smoothies with kefir, or plain Greek yogurt if I’m broke. I want to start making kefir at home and have infinite kefir hack.

No. 565691

>>564519
Fermented foods. Full sour pickles, kimchi, kombucha, anything picked really, gochujang. Probiotic supplements are the one supplement I’ve noticed in my own body that is worth the money. Yogurt. Kefir.
>>564207
They can’t help themselves. They’re so hungry and mad that they can’t eat that they just gotta go see if they can make all the non-retarded people angry. They’re welcome to stay, I’m not threatened. Maybethey’ll stop being idiots and hit the gym, stop subsisting on rice cakes and black coffee, and get rid of the smegol build.

No. 565935

Will it hinder my weight loss goals if I don't count any fruit and veggies in my calorie tracker? (Yes including the 'starchy' ones). I feel as though you can't actually gain weight off them? When I was a raw vegan I could barely put on weight, but now I eat differently and I feel that maybe not tracking fruits and veggies won't make much difference unless im wrong. Please school me nonnas

No. 565942

>>565935
I did count starchy foods but other than that I never bothered tracking fruit and veg, and I'd still lose weight according to my guesstimated calculations. I think as long as you have a vague idea of the calories in your head (even if it's just relative calories, like you know bananas have more than berries and potato has more than broccoli), you can easily skip counting fruit and veg by just moderating portions.

My logic is that nutrition/general health is more important than losing weight as fast possible, so even if fruit and veg DID slow my progress- I don't want to know. I don't want to make myself paranoid and avoidant of food that is really good for me.

No. 565952

>>565942
Yeah that makes a lot of sense, I'm sort of on the same boat, especially coming from various ED backgrounds (shake diets etc) I would rather just eat large amounts of fruit and veg when im hungry rather than worry that they will make me gain weight and avoid them entirely.

No. 566773

>>564744
This is why I have given up for now. The loose skin started to show itself. I was very skinny my whole life until about 26. I would have never gained weight if I knew that I could never go back to my natural body. If I lose weight I will not have the same benefits of being skinny like I used to. I will also not be able to eat what I want. If I had never gained weight in the first place I would have at least had the perk of looking good without clothes on to weigh out the con of not being able to enjoy eating. It is all very depressing. I wish people would talk about loose skin more often it would save so many people from such a terrible fate. I feel like I look better heavier without stretched out skin so I am just doomed to stay overweight. Why make so much sacrifice for something that will make me look worse?

No. 566823

>>566773
>Why make so much sacrifice for something that will make me look worse?
To avoid many illnesses and an early death

>I would have never gained weight if I knew that I could never go back to my natural body.
>I wish people would talk about loose skin more often it would save so many people from such a terrible fate.

This is common knowledge. Do you live under a rock?

No. 566896

>>566773
You realize eventually you are going to grow old and have loose wrinkly skin no matter what? Looks are temporary, but your health habits follow you forever. Do you want to be a wrinkly 60 year old who struggles to get out of a chair, or a wrinkly 60 year old with a strong skeleton and cardiovascular system? The right person isn’t going to care what you look like naked anyway. Don’t give up just for vanity reasons, your body is so much more than that.

No. 566919

>>566773
I had a baby and breastfed for two years. I still hit the gym every day for her, and for aesthetics, have saggy tits and loose skin (50 lbs down) and still think I look fucking fantastic. I get why you’re lamenting your weight gain, my aunt lost about 150-ish? Maybe more? Lbs through diet and exercise alone, has kept it off 10+ years and just got a tummy tuck for her loose skin at 50. People might be like “why do that because aesthetically you’re 50” but she fucking earned it. Tummy tucks are always an option, or you can just roll with the belly wrinkle too, but this idea like you shouldn’t bother with your health because you won’t be at your aesthetic ideal is retarded. Don’t you want to feel good? Be able to pick heavy stuff up? Go on a hike without being winded? Wake up naturally with no ache? None of that has aesthetic appeal but your life satisfaction goes way up when you can actually enjoy it.

No. 566945

>>566919
You forget all the illnesses people get just from being obese. Cancer, diabetes, hypertension, hormonal issues, absolutely ruined joints that need multiple surgeries later in life, ruined arteries, weak heart, depression

No. 567100

I want to get skinnier/toned/gain muscle (currently 58kg, was 50kg last year) but it's so demotivating starting to cycle and then feeling your legs about to combust about 10 minutes in. I've been trying to eat more and eat protein lately but I still get up, cycle, and feel exhausted whilst all my friends are fine. I think my muscles have atrophied or some shit because I can't even flex them. Sure I'd like to be skinnier but I need to build muscle, I'm way too weak.

Do any of you have any diet/exercise advice for building muscle? Like I said I have like 0 muscle mass, total weakling, so I'm starting from square 1.

No. 567136

>>567100
Try wearing weight on your body, like a weighted vest (keep it light), backpack or those wrist and ankle weights and walk around for an hour or two every day. You should be doing much better with exercise after a month. Pilates is a good option for you, too. It's going to hurt and burn but that's necessary for the muscle to develop.

No. 567172

>>567100
Look up body weight exercises. Find YouTube videos with “low impact” in the title and follow along. When I was starting from square zero I would walk on the treadmill at a slight incline for an hour. Boring as fuck, but my legs got insanely toned just from 3 miles every day, and putting it at an incline reduces impact on knees and builds muscle. Practice standing on one leg and raising your knee as high as possible. Practice yoga for flexibility. Get some 3lb weights from Target for your arms. You got this!

No. 567181

I have been lifting consistently for a little bit now and I've recently hit the stage where my gains are being commented on/noticed by coworkers, friends, and family. My boyfriend has expressed admiration here and there but I can tell that he's worried I'm getting too muscular. If I'm wearing a tank top he says things like "maybe skip arm day this week haha" and it's all in a playful tone, but I genuinely think he's starting to get bothered by this. The other day I flexed at him and he looked horrified and said to go easy on the gym. I want to doubt that it's a matter of losing attraction, as I'm not even bordering masculine, but I can't help but feel like he's finding me less attractive. He keeps asking me how big I want to get and I just keep telling him that the natty limit for women isn't very big at all, but this just made him more worried. Unfortunately it feels like lately most of the comments he makes on my body are expressing concern about me getting too muscular. I am starting to think I gaslit myself with fitness content thinking everyone likes muscle mommies but at this point I am addicted to lifting and don't plan on slowing down.

No. 567186

>>567181
He feels emasculated by your strength, progress, and discipline. Dump him, idc how cute he is. It’s not like you’re a dehydrated fake tan bodybuilder, how can a man possibly lose attraction to his partner getting fit. Insane. Genuinely deranged.

No. 567193

>>567181
He probably feels threatened in his fragile masculinity lol.

No. 567329

I don't have access to heavier weights at home so I'm stuck with 10lb dumbbells, how can I progress? Arms get pushup (cant get pullup bars) progressions but what can I do for legs and abs? I was thinking a backpack with old books for progressing in squats and lunges, and weighted planks, is there anything else that nonas do?

No. 567530

>>567100
You need to build your strength up slowly and steadily, you'll get there! Strength training helps, as does a lot of stretching.
>>567181
Mock him for his frail noodle arms, rub it in his face that you did all this with no help, point out that he could beat you in gains with his natural testosterone levels and yet he hasn't, then dump him for not being supportive of your epic gains. You're doing amazing and I know you like weights but your loser bf is a weight you definitely need to drop.
>>567329
Wash old milk bottles and fill with water or sand to make weights. How heavy they are obviously depends on the materials you have to hand though.

No. 567541

>>567181
Kek is this faggot afraid you'll beat him up or something?

No. 567585

>>567181
>I am addicted to lifting and don't plan on slowing down
Based. Don't let your moid neg you and discourage you from what you enjoy. He definitely sounds emasculated and jealous of how you're working on yourself and getting all these compliments. Drop his ass.

No. 567670

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So proud of myself for all the walking I did in May. My clothes feel baggy now. Another month and I will attain my weight goal finally.

No. 568462

Does anyone have any fitness youtubers you guys enjoy? I've started working out from home as the gym scares me, and so far I've loved yoga with Adriene for her vibes but I haven't found a non yoga youtuber with similar style of content. I despise the music and the whole pep talk/coach thing most HIIT/lifting youtubers seem to have, i need something more chill lol.

No. 568774

Anyone else have to deal with an autoimmune disorder while trying to get fit? My meds give me a false sense of security so its so easy to overdo it and flare myself up like hell. Last week I did forty minutes on the elliptical for two days and sixty minutes for one of them, and my ankle feels like its going to fall off. I just want to make up for all these years spent being so sedentary!

No. 568878

>>568774
>elliptical
doesn't really give you much, better walk or cycle

No. 568893

>>567670
Wow good job! I love walking, such an underrated form of exercise.

I've started cutting down on what I eat again. I try not to go full rexic but I'm also trying to learn to sit with the discomfort of being a little bit hungry so my brain learns that's fine and not an emergency. I know I ate healthy food, so I know I'm not starving. Sure I could have eaten more but this should be enough for now. I actually ate a whole McD burger and fries for dinner last night (my dad was visiting and bought us the food) yet today at my daily weigh in I was a tiny bit less than yesterday! Usually a big meal like that will be enough to set the weight back up for the day (until I poop it out lol) so I was very pleasantly surprised. I hope I can keep my healthier diet up, my biggest enemy is enablers around me (such as my dad bringing me the burger).

>>568774
How about swimming? And like nona said, walking is also good exercise!

No. 569089

>>568878
I got bunions on the fucking elliptical of all things.

No. 569161

>>561506
> perimenopausal
OT but how did you know? What were your signs?

No. 569181

>>568774
Set a timer before you start and stop when its up, better to gradually increase than hurting yourself and having to go back to square one. Slow and steady anon

No. 569487

is hopelessness a normal feeling when you've spent years being depressed and are just now getting into being healthy? it's only been a few weeks since i started working out and keeping my calories low and i have like 30-40 pounds i'm tryna lose on top of gathering some physical strength. part of me is worried i'll never see any changes despite just getting started.

No. 569499

>>569487
It's normal, but don't let yourself drown in it. One of the most challenging aspects of getting into exercise is developing a positive relationship with your body. You have to exercise because you want improved cardiovascular health, go up the stairs without being winded, longer lifespan, prevent osteoporosis, being able to eat whatever you want, etc. The pounds will come but it's not about "changes" and "results" as much as long term discipline, consistency, and a determination to love your body and what it is physically capable of.

No. 569736

>>569487
the good thing is that when you change your habits for the better the weight comes off without that even being the whole focus. just focus on consistency, that's the magic pill.

No. 569897

I really miss going to the gym but I just don't have the time. I can't buy home weights because I primarily powerlift. Has anybody managed to find a clever way to worm gym into a busy life?

No. 569912

I've been on a calorie deficit for two months around 1600-1700 and I don't feel hungry anymore. Is this normal?

No. 569915

>>569912
Your stomach shrunk so you feel less hungry and you are now used to eat less. Same reason obese people get bypass surgery.

No. 569917

My lovely nonnas, do you have any tips for losing weight as a short woman? I was doing so well until late last year when some traumatic things happened. I need many tips and baps.

No. 569969

>>569917
You have to eat like a mouse. I’m 5’3 and i can’t eat more than 1400 calories a day to stay at 110 ish pounds. I started eating just a couple hundred more because I didn’t think it would make that much of a difference, and now I’m up to 125. I’ve learned there is absolutely no wiggle room for ANY extra when you’re short.

No. 569973

Nonnas, I started losing weight just from doing long sessions of breathwork every day, it's so weird cuz I have just been laying down in bed playing games most of the time because of burnout. I also have a more normalized appetite and stress eating has been reduced significantly, I have cravings for healthier food and don't really want to eat sweets anymore and started drinking a lot more water which isn't something I normally did before and I had to force myself. I've been doing 2 hours of different breathwork vids for a week and now went down to 1 hour daily. I guess stress really does prevent you from losing weight

No. 570004

>>567670
Well done! Which app is this nonna?

No. 570147

>>570004
It's Samsung Health. I only use it to track my steps and cycle. I don't know if the other features are good, but for what I use it for, I like it.

No. 570166

>>569897
I've started to wake up a couple of hours earlier to fit in the gym. But going later in the evening might work better.

No. 570170

>>569973
Which videos? I've been so stressed out lately, if you've been finding them helpful for that I'd like to gove them a shot.

No. 570197

>>570166
I've kind of planned to go a couple times a week but only do 2-3 exercises. Can this actually be effective? Eg. Only Squats and hip thrusts one day, only bench and shoulder press another day. I can't go mornings because I'm too busy at night to sleep if I follow that route unfortunately.

No. 570280

>>569917
Get on semaglutide. I'm 5'1 and lost 60 lbs with no effort.

No. 570352

>>570170
I start the day with vidrel and then did one of his 1 hour long ones
https://youtu.be/1ncXO8Dj1qU

atm my favorite is this one
https://youtu.be/sJ3YzmDiIzA
It's a bit shorter so it's convenient and the music is beautiful.

No. 570354

>>570197
NTA but yes, even 15 minutes of regular exercise will bring results if you do it for a while. You don't have to spend endless hours at the gym. The persistent effort pays off.

No. 570586

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>>560035
I'm late on this, but have you tried tofu? The calorie to protein ratio is better and the fat in it will also help keep you full. It's gross and watery if you don't prepare it right, but if you freeze the block, thaw it, then press the water out, the texture is very good. You can cook it in chunks like this recipe:https://cookieandkate.com/how-to-make-crispy-baked-tofu/ (I skip the oil) or you can grate it with a cheese grater and bake it like in this recipe https://thesimplesprinkle.com/shredded-tofu-recipe/ for more of a hamburger crumble texture. Swap out the seasonings in the recipe for ones that make sense for your dish.

Greek yogurt and eggs have also been huge for me for hitting protein goals, if you eat those.

No. 570752

nonnies, what more can i be doing to keep to a good middle ground? i have dealt with both sides of eating issues since i was a child (eating 3000 calories a day into morbid obesity to cope with sexual abuse, rapidly losing and gaining as a teen, then having a short stint of severe restriction for a year) i feel this last year i have finally reached a good middle ground, i am happier, but it isn’t perfect and i am still chunky at 5’2 130 lbs, and i struggle to dip below there at this point.

80% of the time i eat 900-1300 calories, prioritizing protein and fresh food. eggs, tofu, fruit veg homemade stuff no meat or dairy etc. i indulge in sugar in some form daily, i will admit. i have 3-4 indulgent days a month of 1600-1700 calories due to lack of discipline or my period.

i stopped exercising recently due to a health issue and am VERY slowly getting back into it. i am only exercising 1-2x a week with some light pilates and walking 2k-10k steps daily. i used to do 2 hours of exercise a day but burnt out, so would like to make it more realistic as i increase.

i guess what i am asking, is where can i improve? the restriction phase i had got me to 110, i felt very confident but i abused nicotine, kratom, and weed and overexercised. i just have no desire to make myself retarded with drugs again, but i’ll admit i sometimes feel guilty for not trying “harder,” and of course it felt nice to not eat much. these days i feel very comfortable, not starving nor stuffed. but i do wonder if i should still aim to eat less, to allow myself to feel okay with the hunger? i feel so ridiculously lost. i’d love to lose 20 lbs again.

No. 570770

>>570752
Sounds like you've experienced a lot of stress in your life. Maybe instead of focusing on losing weight try working on regulating your nervous system. Very often due to trauma and stress the body does its best to hold on to fat and also makes it difficult to control how much you eat etc. Maybe try doing those breathworks that were posted earlier or some other nervous system regulation exercises that are to your liking.

No. 570775

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>>560035
Going off the suggestion here >>570586
Seitan is another option for more protein, if you don't like tofu. I could never stand tofu, I tried my best. Don't try it if you're sensitive to gluten, because it's basically pure gluten. You can make it yourself with vital wheat gluten "flour". Lots of recipes for it. I especially liked this one https://itdoesnttastelikechicken.com/vegan-seitan-steak/ and all the other seitain recipes on her website.

No. 571276

Does anyone else use a fitness watch here? I've been going on the step master and my heart rate has been consistently no higher than 93 bpm even though I pant and feel my heart rate go very high. My thinking is that my arms aren't moving so not much blood is pumping through there? If I had to guess, at least 130/140 bpm+

Also, in terms of steps I only get about 3k on the step master for an hour. Is it worth still walking 7k to get the 10k minimum health requirement?

No. 571390

>>570752
I am the same way, I always used 80/20. But also don't punish yourself for eating a sweet or something . Also unless it's for moral/religious/allergy reasons I highly suggest adding meat and dairy back in your diet. Eating lean meats and seafood can help you maintain muscle while losing fat, and gaining muscle and maintaining it helps you drop fat a lot easier

No. 572840

Most fit person here probably weighs 100 kg and can deadlift 40 kg(bait)

No. 572842

>>567181
Bait. Doesn’t work like that. Even female bodybuilders offseason can’t be told by normies that they’re fit. This is bait or you’re on some shit. Or they are just being nice and confuse weight loss with muscles. Either way a noob like you doesn’t need to worry about looking like a man lmfao. Don’t believe their lies.

No. 572870

Hello nonnas,

I used to post here a long while ago as I was starting strength training, but I got sick four times over the past six months and lost a good portion of my gains (my squat PR was like 160 lbs).

I also noticed I am mildly chonky, probably from sitting on my ass from being sick.

Should I cut out strength-training altogether and stick to cardio until I look less fat while I cut, or should I still be strength-training while incorporating cardio?

One person I know said doing strength-training while cutting will give me a “rounded physique,” which I don’t quite know what they mean. I feel like I’ll lose my gains on a cut and doing all-cardio. I prefer strength training to cardio as well and would like to be able to get strong enough to see abs/muscle definition.

Current deficit is 400-500 calories/70-80% bodyweight in protein/185 lbs/5’10”

Thanks nonnas!

No. 572871

>>571276
Are you wearing it too loose perhaps? Also keep in mind that there’s a delay between what you see on the watch and your actual hr. It’s not an instantaneous reading.
Either way, it’s never going to be 100% accurate unfortunately, but that does sound like an issue with the watch and not you actually being a reptile kek. I had very low blood oxygen measurements on mine and it was always telling me I’m basically dead until I tightened the strap.

No. 572877

>>572870
You’re doing it wrong by asking here. There’s a reason why heavy ass lifters on social media after their weight loss journey still look shit. How much you can squat really doesn’t matter, is the squat doing you or are you doing the squat?
How much you can lift =/= muscles
You should get your newbie gains, train for hypertrophy, walk 10k steps, do 15 mins of stairmasters after your training two-three days. I know you won’t follow my advice but do whatever. And don’t forget your protein.

No. 572887

>>569487
Hopelessness is normal, your brain is trained to think that way after years of depression. It's not an indicator of your actual results. You need to retrain your brain to look at reality objectively instead of through a lens of abject misery.
You have quite a bit of weight to shed and that does take time! Extreme weight loss is around 2.2lbs a week- you should aim for, or expect, something around 0.5 to 1lb a week. It's going to take you the best part of a year or longer to lose the weight, so accept that and pace yourself. Build good habits, work on your mental health, slowly adjust your lifestyle to be healthier and in line with what you need to maintain your new lower weight.
Even a weight loss of 10lbs makes a huge difference, even if it's only 1/4-1/3 of what you need to lose in total. Keep at it nonna.
>>572870
To be honest any exercise you do will help you lose weight and get back in shape. Do 10k steps a day, slowly work back up to what you used to be able to lift, and you'll be fine.

No. 572896

>>572871
It’s pretty tight and I move and shift it around to try and get an accurate reading. Once it read 140 bpm and I felt that was more accurate than 88 bpm kek.

That’s too bad. I really wanted to measure my fitness level by age, max VO2 and sleep. At least I know how many steps I’m getting and it’s nice to be reminded to get off my ass and do a couple of jumping jacks throughout the day.

No. 572907

Anyone here trying to work out with a fucked up back? Just wanted to know what kind of exercises you all do which don't make your back worse. I hate that I cannot lift

No. 572981

>>572907
Hello nonna, I dealt with a fucked-up back for a while due to very bad anterior pelvic tilt and spent 6 months in PT to fix it.

Idk if this is below your skill level, but here’s some stuff my PT made me do:
>face pulls (on exercise ball)
>seated row (also on exercise ball)
>resistance band side-step
>monster walk
>squats on an overturned bosu ball
>bodyweight squats
>hip/hip flexor stretches
>dead bugs
>extremely low-weight deadlifts
>ankle strap side-kicks

You should ideally get evaluated by an ortho cause IDK if you have the same problems as me, but I hope this helps!

No. 573045

>>572981
NTA but how much does it cost? I'm neet with no health insurance and my neck is fucked up. I got the worst case of tech neck you'll ever see.

No. 573102

>>573045
I am honestly not sure without insurance. I paid $25 copay, but probably is a lot more if you don’t have insurance.

No. 573495

This is too far. It's time to stop being fat. I've lost a kg a week in the past, I can do it again. 20 weeks, 15 kg even suffices. I will use this thread to check in/be accountable. It's time to track. I cannot be fat anymore.

No. 573579

>>573495
I believe in you, nonna!

No. 573793

>>572907
Strengthen your back and core.
Use the machines
Learn to lift properly
Deadlift light weights and learn to lift with your legs.
Get a PT to learn to lift properly and you might get a nice booty.

No. 573952

Doing squats and walking up stairs since I don't have equipment. These weak fat chicken legs I got are pathetic.

No. 574038

A couple years ago i lost 15 kgs with calorie deficit and mild cardio but then i went on vacation and ate whatever i wanted and decided to do intuitive eating afterwards and so i gained it all back by the start of this year. I got back on my routine and lost 5 kgs but it has been stagnant since march now. I cant get below 68 kgs even though i'm doing the exact same thing i did when i dropped down to 60. It really pisses me off and i really don't want to drop my calories even further down since i have a physically demanding job and naturally low blood pressure that makes me prone to fainting.

No. 574288

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>>572842
Women can absolutely look fit enough to be complimented on their muscularity without being big, especially if they are lean. 99% of women don't have any delt or bicep definition to begin with, so it goes noticed by anyone who trains. I have a coworker who works out and has definition like pic rel. Anyone who knows anything about weight training can tell she lifts and I've heard normies compliment her physique before.

No. 574300

>>574288
Ughhhhhh she is so beautiful I might tear up kek

No. 574348

>>574038
Try changing your diet to more whole foods and protein, but eating the same amount of calories.

No. 574832

Turns out I have PCOS wtf (or at least polycystic ovaries without it being a full on syndrome). I didn't expect it because I'm not hairy and I've always had a normal BMI, but I've never been quite as thin as I want and I've always struggled with binging/a massive sweet tooth so maybe it's not that shocking.

I'm starting metformin and although it's not a weight loss drug I've heard it lowers your sugar cravings and reduces food noise, I'm praying that's the case. I guess I've gotta do a low carb low sugar diet either way but I'm gonna need all the help I can get resisting dessert.

No. 574921

>>574832
Could you maybe share how you got your PCOS diagnosis? Since you didn't have the common symptoms, what made the doctor look into possible PCOS diagnosis?

No. 574932

>>574921
I probably shouldn't have said I have PCOS, I was panicking kek. After doing more googling I just have 'PCO' which is different.

Anyway I had an ultrasound (for unrelated reasons) which showed polycystic ovaries ie a super high number of follicles. That's one criteria for PCOS but you need to also have hyperandrogenism and/or irregular periods. I was on BC for so long up until recently that I have no clue how regular my periods are, so I guess it could be either.

No. 575872

>>573495
Started today with eggs and vegetables then went to the gym. Felt good after eating real food but I am so weak now. My session sucked so hard but I will just have to push through.

No. 575884

>>575872
As a woman you need to be eating every 2 hours otherwise your body goes into starvation mode. Eat something lest you become an ana in mind and soul.

No. 575888

>>575884
Uh huh

No. 576204

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My breasts are very saggy and when I wear anything they just sit lower than they should be and look terrible/ridiculous. I don't really mind how they look but they feel uncomfortable and I want to feel my clothes fits right my body. I also have to wear bras or something to keep them in the place even in hot weather. Is there any exercise that can make them firm or at least not to jiggle around? I still want to diy solutions until I get double mastectomy

No. 576207

>>576204
You need to strengthen your chest and upper back muscles. Lifting weights will help with this. Women tend to have weak pecs because a lot of us wear underwire bras that remove carry weight from our chest. My breasts actually sagged less after I stopped wearing wire bras and switched to loose bralettes for work and braless for errands. But also, remember that breasts being affected by gravity is COMPLETELY NORMAL and the concept of “saggy” and “perky” are completely arbitrary patriarchal concepts that are predicated on a pedophilic society. Let em swang sista

No. 576210

>>576207
I don't wear wired bras. I don't wear bras at home and I've been at home for the last 1-2 years. My breasts are saggier when I don't wear them but either way they're saggy to the point it makes me uncomfortable. Wish they were smaller so they would'nt sag and make my job easier. It has nothing to do with patriarchy or whatever, I feel uncomfortable by them moving around. I thought about binding but I don't know how to do that and they aren't found in my country. Plus the long term effects. I want to be titless lol

No. 576261

>>576204
Use kinesiology tape

No. 576285

>>576204
Wow anon we look the exact same. I saw someone in the breast thread say she does a lot of close grip pushups and assisted pullups and hers stay up. I'd guess close grip bench press/flys/normal and incline bench press should all help too? Good luck. I'm sorry about the discomfort.

No. 576363

>>575884
first time hearing about this. Do you have more links/resources I could look into?

No. 576374

>>576363
Retard if women had to eat so frequently it would be widespread knowledge by now. We aren't frail little fairies who can't survive if we don't constantly stock up on little snackies. There's a reason you haven't heard this before.

No. 576654

>>576363
It's obvious sarcasm.

No. 577342

sage for not being super interesting but i lost 8 pounds! super happy. i miss the taste of sweets though (im on an intermittent fasting/no carb/no sugar diet)

No. 577883

>>577342
Great work nona! How have you felt with intermittent fasting? I wanna start but I have a history of fainting when I’ve eaten poorly

No. 578715

I’m 127 lbs, just 2 more lbs away from my goal weight!
>>577342
Congrats! Stay strong and don’t give into the cravings.

No. 578761

>>574288
Still bait/delusional and irl she doesn’t look that masculine, it’s mostly angles. Put her in a dress and she’d look like a pinup model.And that chick trained for years it’s certainly not some delusional gym noob after 6 months unless she’d have amazing genetics but most of them are normies on social media showing off.

No. 578776

>>578761
Your opinion isn't universal

No. 578911

Is 400 calories too much of a deficit if I strength train 4-5x a week? I want to build muscle but also remove the fat on my body.

No. 578912

>>578911
Don't worry about fat. That's going to leave as long as you're working out. If your goal is to build muscle then you need to be eating a shitload of protein and overall a healthy amount of calories. It's possible to build muscle in a deficit but honestly if you're hungry then you're tired, and if you're tired then you don't want to work out, and if you don't want to work out then the habit falls apart. Better to get the exercise routine deeply ingrained first before fretting about macros.

No. 579219

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>>578912
I've been working out on-and-off for the better part of a year-and-a-half, and I believe I overbulked a bit. I lost a bit of strength due to health issues where I had to stop working out for several months, so my figure that looked slim-ish at 190 lbs looks like slight chonk at 184 lbs.

I don't have trouble maintaining a deficit, sticking to a workout routine, or eating a shitton of protein, but I don't know if it's counter-intuitive for body-building/tone to go on a deficit if it means I'm going to lose strength. I do notice that I have a more difficult time recovering after a workout when I'm not eating my maintenance calories, if anything else.

I can see the slightest, slightest, slightest echoes of my abs amid the belly fat, and it stings my ass so hard that I can't uncover them.

I feel like I'm missing something here in my goal, and I feel really stupid that I can't figure out what it is.

No. 579980

>>576204
i also have tits like this. they're so ugly and masculine look like they belong to a troon on 5 months hrt. i want them to be gone, i would cut them myself if i could; waste of fucking cells

No. 580044

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>>579980
Maybe you mean tuberous breasts, that's a congenital deformity. In some countries you can get refunded corrective surgery. There is a boob thread on here tho

No. 580050

>>579980
Man, ok.

No. 580054

Every nonny who is afraid of weight lifting should watch this video and see how much this adorable grandma is lifting

No. 580072

>>580044
Didnt know my breasts were/considered deformed. Maybe i can get surgery to remove them then

No. 580162

>>580044
I hope I never have a daughter so I don't give her my deformed breasts. I had surgery on mine and I wish I could have small breasts instead, but the implant had to be big enough to shape them properly.

No. 580281

>>580162
Nta but I realized how much pcos ruined me. Deformed breasts, deformed nipples, deformed face, acne, uneven skin color, deep voice, hairy everywhere more than most males, male pattern fat distribution, inverted triangle body, thinning hair… It feels like I should've been born as a male and makes me think if I am one tbh

No. 580301

>>580162
it's not genetic. All of my older and same gen relatives had or have normally devloped bodies (some of them even have perfect bodies). They were also allowed to have normal sexual lives and development while I wasn't. This could have caused an epigenetic activation from traumatic upbringing where the daughter's sexuality is strongly repressed by the environment and treated like something abnormal.

No. 580337

>>560069
I am also on Zoloft and I gained so much weight after never struggling with it and being naturally thin my whole life. I've been dieting and working out but it feels like my metabolism is just fucked now. Did you have any success?

No. 580341

>>580301
Genuinely what are you talking about

No. 580435

I've been chickenmaxxing and it's been really nice being able to feel full and getting all the protein I need. I accidentally overcooked the chicken so it did turn out dry and a little chewy, but I think that helped me even more with feeling full quickly. I'm trying to eat around 1600-1800 calories a day and incorporating chicken has been helping a LOT. Topping a lot of savory meals with pico de gallo too has been good with keeping calories low and satisfying my hunger.

No. 580481

>>580337
Nta but SSRIs made me put on 20lbs and I went right back to my natural weight after I stopped taking them. Idk what it does to our hormones but it was impossible for me to be skinny on antidepressants. Hopefully you find a solution or reach a point where you either don’t need them anymore

No. 580497

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believing in the omniscience of false gods who don't even know about vitamin D deficiency can harm you and your children

No. 580507

Nonnas, how long do I need to stay on a cut for before moving back into a bulk. Never tried cutting with serious conviction before, but I want to actually get some results.

>>580435
Chicken is great and based. Lately I've been making turkey burger patties which are a little higher in calories, but I'm full and happy.

No. 580510

>>580497
Hey, I'm the resident prophet of vitamin D around these parts. Stop stealing my shtick.

No. 580535

>>580481
different anon but even wellbutrin, one of the antidepressants supposedly good for weight, made me blow up to nearly 140 lbs and i've always been 110-120 my entire life. once i got off it i immediately lost the weight just eating as i normally do.

No. 580553

>>580497
Shit nonny I’ve been vitamin D deficient for years trying to achieve pasty pale skin… made me depressed and anxious but I did it for the ~beauty standards~
is it too late for me to turn my health around?

No. 580586

>>580553
Why not use skin lightening products?

No. 580649

>>580553
if you're D deficient during pregnancy you're fucking up your child irreversibly. As an adult, your health and especially mood will start improving immediately when you stop being deficient.

Just wear a hat or something to keep direct sunlight out of your face, you can absorb vit d via your arms, feet, neck, whatever.
>>580586
some people don't like bathing in mystery chemicals that fuck up your hormones and god knows what else

No. 580654

>>580586
Im the type of Asian that if I stay indoors, I get pale translucent skin but if I walk outside I tan immediately. I used to wear parasol and long sleeve clothing in the summer.
>>580649
I’ve been walking outside everyday for an hour, is that enough or should I take vitamin D supplements? And no im not pregnant yet but I want to be in the future. Fun fact: I was on birth control pills and while vitamin D deficient my blood pressure was hypertensive. Idk if it was the excess estrogen from the pills or my dumbass staying indoors 24/7.

No. 580661

It's so hard to get myself in the gym when I'm constantly worried I'm doing everything wrong. I've been going for literal years but I still feel so sick in my stomach the entire time I'm in the building. I think I just want to quit.

No. 580699

>>580654
Take supplements, you need more than maintenance to undo the deficiency. Vitamin D is water soluble so it's pretty safe to supplement, you just pee excess out.

No. 580703

>>580699
Not true, vitamin D is not water soluble but it's still safe to take 1000-2000 IU daily and is what my doctor recommended to me.

No. 580730

>>580661
Why not get an appointment with a personal trainer or but equipment to exercise at home

No. 580731

Nonas I'm upset and I need advice. I've been in a 500 calorie deficit for about three months now (used multiple TDEE calculators and they put me at 1800 for a deficit). I eat the same things pretty much every day so even when I miss a day or two of tracking it's not a huge risk. I'm 5'6", 175 lbs, and I've been lifting weights for about 2.5 years now. I work out 3-5 times a week (more like 6/week now that I'm free for the summer) and I do incline walking for cardio for 20-30 minutes. Can anyone tell me why tf I gained 5 lbs in the last month? I started on 50 mg of sertraline (zoloft) if that's relevant (and got weighed at the doctor's). Same routine, same calories. If it's the meds I'll lose my shit. I'm losing my shit regardless, it seems like I gained a lot more weight over the winter than I thought and I'm basically at the same size I was last summer with no improvement in physique. What can I do? I know at the very least I need to invest in a scale and track from week to week.

No. 580734

>>580731
Ssris cause weight changes in many individuals so thats the likely cause.

No. 580785

>>580481
>>580535
I've been on effexor and lexapro before and didn't have this issue at all. Only now with Zoloft. I reduced my calorie intake drastically but I haven't lost a single pound yet. I'm reading about people needing a year or more to get back to normal after quitting Zoloft and that sounds so dire. I'm already decreasing my dosage but what if I can't even lose it after quitting?

No. 580807

>>580785
>>580734
Jesus, now I think I should quit this stuff. I can ask the doctor about prozac instead.

No. 580811

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>>580807
>>580785
>>580734
Gonna be crunchy for a sec and point out that scientists still don’t really know how antidepressants work. It might be a slightly educated guess, but it’s still a guess because we know so little about the brain. Have you guys read that study indicating that SSRIs can cause the brain to produce less organic serotonin over time? It’s unsettling stuff. I’ve been on a million different antidepressants and still have lingering side effects from some. These drugs are unfortunately a complete crapshoot, and when you factor in lab testing only being done on male mice, the effects of antidepressants (and pharms in general) on the female body are often a big question mark. Obviously I’m not gonna tell anyone to stop taking something if it improves their quality of life, but sometimes antidepressants cause more problems than they fix.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3547473/

No. 580820

>>580811
Don’t scare me like this nonna… I wanna go off my meds agaiiin

No. 580822

>>580820
Sorry for being a doomer, it’s a topic I’m pretty passionate about after being mistreated by doctors for so long. If it gives you any hope I’ve been rawdogging life for the past year and I’m honestly doing great. I fixed my vitamin deficiencies which was huge, and I cut out processed sugar, alcohol, and frequently going to restaurants. I cook simple meals at home, eat lots of fish and eggs, and I still smoke weed and drink tons of coffee. My PMDD sneaks up on me every month but it’s been more manageable and I feel like I can confidently say I’m no longer depressed in my day to day life. I never thought I would ever live to this age, let alone be happy at this age. I do think it’s possible to thrive without antidepressants but it’s been hard work ngl.

No. 580825

>>580811
I don't mind you being crunchy. I feel the same as you most of the time and I'd like to never be on medication again, but I've never figured out how to make it work long term. I always hit a point about a year or two in where I go off the deep end. Of course then I never stay on the meds for long either. If you have any advice about vitamins I'll take it. I'm tired of living like this and I want to try something different.

No. 580828

>>580825
Vitamins are gonna be different for everyone, you need to get bloodwork done for that. For me it was low iron, B12, and vitamin D. I’ve switched to liquid supplements and seem to get way more results from them, especially with the iron.

No. 580837

>>580825
>>580828
Fixing my iron and vitamin D deficiencies was a game changer for my mental health. I went from a nervous crying mess barely able to get out of bed (sometimes not at all) to functioning fairly normally just from taking iron for a couple of months. Things don't send me into a downwards spiral every couple of months like they used to. That wasn't a coincidence because I had been struggling with my mental health since my teens and I had been reffered to see a psychologist (that I didn't go to) just a couple of months before I discovered I had deficiencies by accident. I don't know why they don't test for common deficiencies first thing when they suspect someone has depression.

No. 580848

>>580828
How long should you lay off supplements before doing blood work? Been taking magnesium and vitamin D and don’t want to skew the results. I just want to see how well my body is absorbing my diet.

No. 580860

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>>580731
>take antidepressant
>it makes you fat which makes you more depressive
kek
this is why I stay away from medication as much as possible.

If you started lifting weights, you may simply have built some muscle mass.

>invest in a scale
maybe get one of these impedance scales if you have the money

No. 580861

>>580837
>I don't know why they don't test for common deficiencies first thing when they suspect someone has depression.
my guess is that selling psychologist sessions and SSRI's is more profitable than saying "get some sunlight and eat a piece of liver now and then"

No. 580870

>>580861
No I don't think so, insurance companies are uptight and will always push the cheapest option. I was denied iron infusions for that reason.

No. 580874

>>580731
>Can anyone tell me why tf I gained 5 lbs in the last month?
if you've been sexually active, do a pregnancy test.

No. 580881

>>580860
>this is why I stay away from medication as much as possible.
Nta I'm taking an antidepressant and haven't had any weight fluctuations at all or negative side effects for that matter. It depends on the medication and you and how your body reacts to the medication, there are no rules

No. 580883

>>580881
>or negative side effects for that matter
I got unfortunate news for you, some bad side effects you get from antidepressants are insidious and gradual, so the person taking the medication doesn't notice them until they go off the medication. Imagine some effect increasing unnoticed by 0.5% every day. After 200 days you have that side effect in full effect without noticing. This happens to most antidepressant users. Also antidepressants are generally not supposed to be used for long periods of time and stop having any effect compared to placebo groups after one year, but you will still experience withdrawal symptoms when you stop taking them. It's a massive scam because personal lifestyle changes can't be exploited for money.

No. 580902

>>580881
Virtually every type of medication has side effects of some kind that may or may not impact you.

Even basic tried-and-true antibiotics will often kill off your gut bacteria which can fuck you up in a myriad of ways. And that's medication for stuff we at least have a decent understanding of. We really know fuck-all about how the brain functions, schizophrenia and depression may just as well be caused by demonic possession and psychic energy leeches for all we know.

>how your body reacts to the medication
which I cannot know beforehand, hence why I prefer to stay away if possible.

No. 580919

>>580837
>>580828
Well this sucks because they actually tested my blood before putting me on the sertraline and all my levels are normal. I'm an active person with physical and creative hobbies who eats well and sees the sun regularly but I'm still a mess, so I guess there's no hope for me, kek.
>>580860
Lol and I avoided it too for so long because of this problem. I appreciate the optimism but I doubt much if any of it is muscle mass, I've been lifting and eating consistently for years so my progress is very slow and steady at this point. If you or anyone itt has used one of these body comp scales I'd love to hear about it because I'm interested in one but I've heard they're a scam.
>>580874
I'm a lesbian thank god.

No. 580922

>>580861
>>580870
idk how to explain it, but it seems like the medical institution sometimes chooses over complicated options to justify itself. you don't need a fancy degree, spend a bunch of money and support the institution "tradition" just to take some vitamin tests and prescribe sunlight, offal, and exercise. They went to school to get the special license to write prescriptions, they're gonna want to write prescriptions. People want the special prescriptions too, and often get annoyed they went to doctor just for the doctor to tell them simple, at-home solutions.

No. 580945

>>580919
>If you or anyone itt has used one of these body comp scales I'd love to hear about it because I'm interested in one but I've heard they're a scam.
The ones that only have electrodes for the feet are definitely useless. Electricity seeks the quickest way through a conductor, so they can only make guesses based on your legs.

I posted that particular model because there's a chubby guy in /fit/'s fat loss general who has that scale and posts his readings and a photo of his body once a week, and they seem to track well. It has mixed reviews on Amazon, though.

No. 581149

Any advice on getting more arm definition?

For context I’ve cut from the upper to lower bound of healthy weight very slowly over the past 6 months; everything looks pretty much how I want except my arms have zero definition. I can see my delt cap very faintly but everything down is looks like it’s been wrapped in a jiggly pouch. Not sure if it’s skin laxity, a weird water retention pattern or maybe just fat distribution? I trained high reps/low weight while cutting

No. 581165

Keto/Low-carb is literally the ONLY way I can lose weight so fuck it, I'm doing it again. I don't get how people lose weight through just counting calories. I literally get SO hungry on even the most mild caloric deficit. If I eat even a little bit of rice or bread I will be ravenous in two hours. Low carb is the only thing that keeps the cravings away.

No. 581167

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>>581165
you don't need to do full on keto/lowcarb/dirty keto. If always being hungry or more bingey issues is the problem just do high volume (volumetric) eating. Also cravings aren't a bad thing it just means your body needs something it's not getting. If your cravings are usually bready/rice/sugary things, it means your body is just craving energy in general. For reference, this is a quick and brainless reference sheet, but there's better ones out there if you look around.

No. 581168

>>581165
I think doing keto would make me kill myself but my body is the same, I get horribly exhausted if I'm not eating multiple animal-based protein meals every day. I seriously have no idea how some people eat Takis and chicken nuggets and energy drinks every day, do they just feel like shit all the time and think that's normal?

No. 581178

>>581167
Thanks for the chart, nonna. I usually only get cravings when I eat carbs- but especially bread. Bread is delicious and evil. I think it probably has to do with insulin resistance.
>>581168
I'm the exact same way. I find that I need a heavy protein diet to not feel tired which is strange because I don't do much in terms of strength training.
>I seriously have no idea how some people eat Takis and chicken nuggets and energy drinks every day, do they just feel like shit all the time and think that's normal?
I wonder this too. A friend of mine is dieting with me and just does calorie counting, eating cakes, wraps, bread and sugary beverages, just in small portions and she's completely fine, not hungry at all. I don't understand how she does it.

No. 581258

>>581168
chicken nuggets are animal based protein…

No. 581338

>>581168
Did you know some people don't eat meat at all? Maybe try that, your description sounds like an addiction more than nutrition lol

No. 581344

>>581338
When I don’t eat meat I feel tired, did you even read my post? I’m not going through wild caught Alaskan salmon withdrawals

No. 581347

>>581338
I'm the original anon who posted about keto and plant based protein does work too for me. I eat a lot of tofu. It's just protein in general

No. 581355

>>578715
Same Nona but Oh fuck I’m 122 lbs now in 7 days… I don’t have a metabolism disorder I hope?? And I didn’t even workout this past week. Are healthy and still walked daily though.

No. 581358

>>581338
(red) meat is the best source of iron and we dump lots of it every month on our periods. It makes complete sense to me anon feels tired when she doesn't eat meat.

No. 581362

>>581355
It’s normal for your weight to fluctuate within a 5+ lb range based on water retention and the contents of your digestive tract

No. 581378

>>581362
hew ok that is good news, thought i'd had cancer kek. how are you supposed to know what you're true weight is? drink water, eat until full, and weigh yourself at that weight or fast and weigh yourself in the morning before drinking water?

No. 581423

>>581378
Morning weighs are supposedly the most “true” weight but honestly it’s much healthier for me to forget about the exact number and focus on how I look and feel. I could be weak and skinnyfat at 130 or muscled and toned at 130, the number is the same but the health and appearance is totally different.

No. 581433

>>581423
>I could be weak and skinnyfat at 130 or muscled and toned at 130, the number is the same but the health and appearance is totally different.
So true. Even though I have a good BMI, I feel so fat still. I still got big fat legs and arms but my torso is so skinny, you can see my ribs and collarbone. Hate feeling weak and flabby but I suppose that’s what happens when you eat healthy and walk for your exercise with a sporadic weight lifting schedule.

No. 581440

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Why can’t I lie still on my side? I’ve been doing Pilates since the beginning of this year and have noticed a real improvement in core strength, but I still can’t do any of the exercises that require lying on my side. I’m just wobbling and rolling over the whole time and can’t concentrate on the actual exercise. The trainer says I need to engage my core to keep still but I just can’t manage it, even though I have no problem doing other exercises that require core strength. Are these a different set of muscles? Is there a way to train these without flopping around like a sad fish?
I suspect it has something to do with my very exaggerated waist-hip ratio but idk how to bring that up without sounding conceited or like a lame excuse.

No. 581442

>>581440
Is your hip to floor angle like in the photo you posted?

No. 581444

>>581442
I’m not sure what you mean, but that’s an example of an exercise I can barely do without placing a hand flat on the floor to stabilise myself. My hips are significant wider than that lady’s so I can’t lie down straight like that. If I try to keep my spine straight while lying on my side I end up supporting myself on my shoulder and hip with my whole upper body hovering a few cm above the floor.

No. 581446

>>581444
I suspect that your hips are misaligned, thats why you are rolling over. They should not be at a right angle to the floor but tilted like in the photo you posted. With wider hips the angle can be more dramatic. Check shoulder alignment also.

No. 581451

>>581446
Wouldn’t that make it easier to lie still on one side compared to the other? I’m equally unstable on both sides. If it matters, I can lie still when I support my upper body with my elbow, just not when I lay my upper body down.
I’ll look into it (thanks!), but I’m not sure if that’s my issue. I used to see a physiotherapist semi-regularly for my very tight shoulder muscles but he never noticed anything wrong with my hip or shoulder alignment.

That reminds me, does anyone have tips for stretching/relaxing the trapezoid muscles? Mine are ridiculously tight and I wake up with stiff, painful shoulders every day. The standard stretches the physiotherapist taught me help a bit, but not much, and massaging them hurts. I think I pull my shoulders up in my sleep and I have no idea how to stop doing that.

No. 581468

>>581451
>Wouldn’t that make it easier to lie still on one side compared to the other?
You change your hip and shoulder tilt depending on the side you are laying on. Regardless it's had to tell what could be causing the issue, maybe you are leaning too much forward with the side that isn't touching the floor,maybe there is some weight distribution issue. Maybe try doing some yoga to find where the issue lies because it verifies any misalignments very quickly. Reg core muscles can you do side planks and side plank dips?

>tips for stretching/relaxing the trapezoid muscles
Try a massage gun its great

No. 581562

I have finally learned if I'm desperate to gorge on something at night it's better to take eggs than bread. Doesn't count as a binge if it's pure protein…right? Only 150 calories. I feel good!

No. 581589

>>581149
Do the opposite, low reps high weight.
>>581562
Good job nonna! 150 cals of eggs is miles better than 150 cals of bread, or however much bread you'd have eaten.

No. 581593

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Anons, I genuinely cannot handle being fat anymore, so I drafted up this plan. Does this seem like it would be a good start? If so, how quickly would I lose weight? I was thinking I would get to my ideal weight in maybe six to eight months, but I'm not sure. I've never lost weight healthily (ex-anachan) so my sense of time is warped. I want to do this the right way.
Picrel is my current weight and reasons I think I'm there right now, goal weight, and then my plan on how I will lose weight. I'm spoilering it so it doesn't show up on the front page.
I'm really not sure how many calories I'm eating a day which makes the deficit difficult. I definitely have been consuming almost 1k in calories when I drink, though, because I am disgusting. I also have a bad habit of drunk-eating. I really want to quit drinking entirely, but that's something I don't want to do on my own (I'm trying to find therapists under my insurance), so I'm allowing some space for it in my plan.

No. 581600

>>581593
you probably won't see much results until you cut out most of the alcohol.

look at day celebs, they struggle for years with their weight, but once they get sober it melts off and stays off

No. 581602

>>581593

https://healthpromotion.ucsd.edu/topics/alcohol/nutrition-endurance.html

No. 581603

>>581600
That makes sense; thank you, anon. I don't think I'm at a point where I'll go through withdrawal so I'm going to try cutting it out completely. Not only do I (desperately) want to lose weight, but I think it would be better for me in the long run.
>>581602
Thank you for the link, nonna!

No. 581813

Does anyone here take magnesium supplements? I heard only good things about magnesium glycinate.

No. 581816

>>581593
Cut out alcohol and eat real food. Eggs, fish meat keep you satiated and keeps you from bingeing crap. By meat and fish I mean real pure cuts and fillets, not ultraprocessed junk like nuggets and fish fingers. No point in going on a cut if the food you eat is shit, its better to make a lifestyle change and eat healthy real and filling meals that keep you from yo-yoing.

No. 581887

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What can i do for flabby arms? i lost weight by dieting and jogging but my arms remained pretty much the same

No. 581888

>>581887
I'm dealing with this right now as well, sadly. You can either get surgery, which leaves a huge nasty scar or build up a ton of muscle to fill in the skin which looks super masculine and gross. Doesn't seem like there's any actual good options to deal with it.

No. 581891

>>581887
You can try building up muscle to fill your arm back out. I personally love the look of a woman with muscles, but if you want your arms smaller again, then lose the muscle SLOWLY, VERY SLOWLY so your skin has time to readjust.

No. 581894

>>581813
I take magnesium bisglycinate at night, really helps me sleep

No. 581897

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>>581891
Oh shit thats awesome i would love to have roidstacy arms

No. 581899

When do you usually decide to take a break from deficit/for how long? I've been in a deficit since the beginning of May but my hunger is starting to get to the point I can't ignore it as well and I end up eating a snack before bed (In my deficit I've been great about not eating after my dinner at around 6pm) so I feel like maybe switching to maintenance calories for a bit will help reset things. Is that thinking correct? The last break I took was on Spring break in April since I just wanted to focus on my vacation without weighing and counting food and went right back into having good progress.

No. 581908

>>581897
Looks like a troon

No. 581910

>>581908
This guy has never looked at a real woman in his life

No. 581911

>>581910
I'm not a guy. Her face is ugly. It's not my problem that you double chinned fattos with no lips and brows find this attractive, get over it.(infighting)

No. 581912

>>581911
What are you even talking about? What has this got to do with lips and eyebrows? Or even being fat?

No. 581954

>>581911
The fact that you seriously had the need to say "I'm not a guy" on lolcow proves you're a retarded moid. Hope someone rapes the bitterness out of you by repeatedly pressing your prostate button.(a-logging)

No. 581970

>>581899
I have no experience with this but I would guess you could at least take a week off for maintenance. See how you feel after?

No. 581986

>>581894
What brand of supplement do you use? Does it help with anxiety too if you have that?

No. 582001

>>581888
Nonna, muscle grows slower than you think. The kinds of muscles you're thinking of are from women who are professional body builders and have been lifting HIGH weights for at least 5 years.

No. 582017

>>581813
Magnesium makes me so tired and sleepy even when I take it the night before

No. 582020

>>581887
depends on the amount of flab but the ab wheel will specifically reduce flabbiness very quickly. if your skin is loose, you can look into sculptra

No. 582109

What's the bare minimum required to maintain my running level?
I've recently finished Couch to 5k and I'm really happy with the level it's gotten me to, absolutely no desire to improve further. Not looking to improve my pace/distance/lose weight/etc, I'm truly just happy knowing if I ever need to run I've got about half an hour in me before my legs give out.
I only have the time to get to the gym three times a week so running three times a week means that's all I do. I'd love to free up some days for other things, I'm thinking 1x running 1x strength training 1x boxing (or another nice strength/cardio combo) is that a decent idea or am I just going to lose absolutely all by c25k gains?

No. 582224

>>582109
I'm not really a "runner", but when I ran I was consistent from just once a week, if even that. Though I do like to bike around so I get that casual leg training throughout the week too.

No. 582472

No matter how much I lost weight my thighs and legs are fat. My body is fat. But my face looks like it belongs to a skeleton. I'm tired of it. Why couldn't I have nice prerty long legs instead sshort skumpy ones? Why not a shorter torso? I'm 164 cm and 43 kg currently but still look fat. Fuck this world

No. 582474

>>582472
Maybe you have lipoedema. I had fat on my thighs at 173cm and 45kg because of it even though I looked like a skeleton everywhere else.

No. 582502

>>582474
Were you able to fix it? Or is surgery the only option?

No. 582504

>>582502
unfortunately no, at least not yet. I'm looking into cryolipolisis because liposuction costs a lot of money. I'm using a massage gun on my legs daily and it seems to have improved the appearance. Increasing muscle mass by lifting heavy weights improves the appearance as well but after taking a break it would go back to how they previously looked. So exercise is a must.

No. 582649

>>582472
It might just be skin and not fat. I'm so skinny at this point that ribs and hip bones are visible, yet my thighs and calves still look thick - but it's clearly skin and not fat, because of the way it droops down.

No. 582651

I feel like i literally look like the thumb nail AAAHHH. I keep making excuses not to lose weight and keep obsessing over ensuring everything i do is perfect, then i go and order pizza and get even fatter. The slow pace that weight is lost is such a huge barrier for me to start my weight loss journey i feel, i just want to go back to my old body i had when i was 16 and i wasn't even skinny then, i was skinny fat, but i could wear whatever i wanted.

No. 582740

>>582651
>I feel like i literally look like the thumb nail AAAHHH
See, OP? I knew that picture was a bad idea lmao

No. 582893

I don't know if this threads gonna crucify me for "cheating weight loss" but I don't care, I'd rather take ozempic that makes me less hungry than go full blown ana-chan bone rattler. Anyways, its only the first day, but I don't have the insane urge to binge after working out, which is new. I've always had a big appetite and eaten way more than I should. Even if its healthy, I don't feel full without large portion sizes. One day in, and its successfully cut down the amount of food I eat in order to feel full!

No. 582894

>>582740
I only just realized it's AIslop too.

No. 582897

>>582893
i mean good for you how are you not scared of all the insane side effects that have been reported and even the ones that could manifest in several years

No. 582925

>>582893
I need the opposite of this

No. 582990

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I dunno how to get back into losing weight again. I was super miserable dieting and exercising. The dieting was annoying cause all I could think about was food. Planning meals, counting calories, just thinking about eating in general. All I looked forward to was when I finally got to eat and going out to restaurants with friends was a nightmare because I had no means of counting the calories. I was never full so I guess that’s why I was always looking forward to meals. I lost a ton of weight but I felt so deprived and restricted.
Exercise was miserable because I’m a physical disabled retard. I would get super fucking depressed after exercising it was like the opposite of runners high. I only did basic shit too it was that switch game with the goofy ass wheel but it’s a good tool especially if you have limited space and equipment. I had super active job at the time too that required lots of heavy lifting and being on my feet all the time.
I was so miserable back then but when I see photos of myself compared to now I used to look great.
So I’m not sure to approach this lifestyle again after failing and being put off by it. I have no motivation but myself hatred and need to get stronger. Do any nonnas have any tips?

No. 582998

>>582893
But ozempic makes you look old and when you stop taking it you gain everything back

No. 583161

>>582893
>>582897
I'm on wegovy myself, no side effects ever and whatever could potentially manifest is unlikely to be as bad as me literally slowly dying from sleep apnea when I was obese due to binge eating disorder, which is not manageable with willpower alone. These injections are just as valid as other means of losing weight, no need to feel bad about them.

>>582998
Major weight loss causes loss of volume in the face no matter how the weight loss is achieved. Losing volume and fat in the face makes it droop somewhat. Has nothing to do with the shots.

No. 583297

>>582990
Don't diet, but do try to be mindful of what you're eating.
That doesn't mean cutting out everything you enjoy and fighting against your desires, just researching and interrogating why you want certain things. Eg. if you're constantly craving chocolate, it could mean you're magnesium deficient and those cravings might go away if you just take some supplements. Cravings are generally your body telling you it needs something, but it's not great at picking the healthiest source so sometimes you have to redirect the craving - but always address them!
Getting your activity levels back up is something that has to fit in with you lifestyle, but literally anything is better than nothing.
If you've got a busy schedule or not a lot of money you can try stepping in place or grab a footstool and do box steps while you're watching netflix. Multitask exercise to distract yourself from how mundane it can be.
Since you have a switch you should download the demo for Fitness Boxing and see how it feels for you, I like it far more than Ring Fit.

No. 583350

i've been putting on weight and working out my legs and butt and i think i look much sexier than before (even my breasts seem to have pumped up a little, i didn't gain a cup but i think they're better), my hips are a little rounder, overall i think i look good
however of course this had to come with my tummy growing a little bit. i don't have it hanging quite yet but it's starting to not be flat anymore

i don't really know what to do… is there a way to look more voluptuous with 0 tummy?

if i just cut calories, i might lose the tummy but i'll also lose the curves.
from my little knowledge i'd have to starve myself, then bulk up making sure my muscles eat up the calories and they don't get stored as fat, but i don't have time to work out super often and count calories and protein and have a super detailed plan either with how busy i'll be at work for a few months

No. 583357

>>583350
You can’t have soft curves with no tummy. I mean, outside of godly genetics anyway. Especially the fat pouch we have at the bottom, that’s normal. Our collective brains are fried from being bombarded with images of women with surgically altered tummies and fake butts. Women have tummies.

No. 583371

>>583350
I'm so jealous. What are you doing for bigger hips?

No. 583392

>>583371
i don't know, it might all be in my head (i didn't take progress pics lol) but my routine (2x week) is
- laying side hip abduction 40 reps 3 sets (lifting 20-25kg with my leg) (i'd do less reps if i could load more but i don't have the equipment yet)
- elastic band kickbacks 25 reps x 4 sets

- deadlift 8 reps as much as i can (currently 60kg), 4 sets
- squat as much as i can (currently at 55 kg), 12 reps, 4 sets
- hip thrust as much as i can, 12 reps, 3-4 sets

i don't always do the first two

and for food, i've been replacing what i usually eat with food that's higher in protein but i've not been counting

No. 583417

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i'm going to blog a bit about my experience with exercising and putting on weight. sorry if it feels like humblebragging.
i think i'm at my healthiest weight right now. i used to be so scared of getting over a certain weight, but if i had known, i'd have started bulking up way earlier.
i didn't weigh myself ever since i started bulking (i don't want the number on the scale to scare me), but when i look at myself right now i think i look good. the muscle definitely is good but even the fat that came along with it is good. my breasts used to look a bit "sad" during the first part of my cycle, now they look plump consistently (although i'm still only a b cup).

but i just can't shut off this voice in the back of my mind that's telling me to beware of becoming fat and walled. i'm around my mid twenties and i know that's the age when so many girls will gain weight uncontrollably and that scares me. anyways idk, wish i could get feedback on my looks somehow, like whether i should go back to being skinnier or not, but all i have is my mom kek.
sometimes i wonder if all i did was gain fat by eating more and no muscle, but since i can lift more than i used to that's definitely not true, is it?

picrel is what i think about to worry a bit less

No. 583420

>>583417
>mid 20s
>gain weight uncontrollably
Kek do you get your health information from tiktok. Your metabolism doesn't significantly slow down until 40-45. And even then it's not like as you age it just becomes completely and utterly hopeless of ever looking trim… Relax. Just keep doing what you're doing because we are exercising for cardiovascular health and bone density in old age, not for looking like we're 19 forever.

No. 583550

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so, how much does 10-20 pounds really make? I know it depends. I'm tall and muscular, and I've been a "healthy" weight for many years now but I've never been skinny or below 22 bmi. I suffer from a lot of fatigue, eating healthier and upping my exercise made no impact on that, and I just never have felt very confident. sometimes I wonder if I would feel better if I cut down, physically and lookswise, but it's hard to tell sometime and I'd like to hear from others that have gone through similar.

and to clarify, doctor already told me I didn't need to lose more weight and that I was perfectly healthy. without running any tests of course kek. I'm really on my own.

No. 583555

this is cringe to admit but i can’t do a squat correctly & I’ve been trying for a long time. my knees are supposed to be parallel to or further back than my feet and my feet are supposed to be straight but i cant do it. i have to lean my knees/body forward to do it otherwise i fall over on my ass & my stupid feet always end up being tilted outwards no matter how hard i try. how the fuck do i have the physical capacity of a elderly woman. my life has barely begun and im already completely physically inept. + i also cannot do a single push up or a pull up, my arms are too weak to support my body.
anyway how do i fix this? i just want to be able to do a proper squat for once in my life. please help guys i know this is really lame but i dont want to be like this.

No. 583556

>>583555
If you can't do a full squat with good form, then do a half squat. Choose a chair and practice sitting down in it using squat form. That is, shins vertical and ass out. Go as slowly as possible to activate your muscles. Then find something lower to squat onto, and lower, and lower, until you can squat unassisted.

Your core is probably also weak, so you can practice planks, wall sits, and lying leg lifts. There's no shame in being weak, it's simply a starting point and we all have to start somewhere.

No. 583566

Jesus fucking christ it's been 5 years and I still can't decide whether I value being strong and muscular or being thin and pretty. I always get into one of them for a few months then do a sharp turn and end up right back where I started. I'm going crazy.

No. 583573

>>583550
I’m in a similar boat and if I drop below ~22 I get insomnia. If I’m exercising daily and go below 21.5 or so I’ll lose my period. I’m actually trying to gain some weight for this reason. Need some cushion. BMI’s not a one size fits all, feel free to do some fiddling but higher end and healthy feeling is better than mid/lower end and unhealthy feeling.

No. 583618

>>583566
Remember that a woman will never look like a gross roidpig unless she's been on steroids for like a decade, don't let the 'zomg women can't be bulky!!! ugh so gross and manly' psyop get to you. Chances are you'll never be visibly muscular unless you make it your ultimate goal in life like female pro bodybuilders do.

No. 583638

>>583555
Try out wall push ups

No. 583639

>>583618
What's wrong with being a "roidpig"? Why women are only allowed to grow muscle to look "prettier" but not "stronger"? You're part of the problem

No. 583871

>>583618
I look bulky and masculine naturally. I've always had broad shoulders and narrow hips. Even untrained I was stronger than the average woman but the muscle I have is never lean. Being rail thin like a model is the only thing which could make me look feminine.

No. 583915

>>583555
>how the fuck do i have the physical capacity of a elderly woman. my life has barely begun and im already completely physically inept. + i also cannot do a single push up or a pull up, my arms are too weak to support my body.
i'm in the same situation nonna after having a more or less sedentary lifestyle since pretty much forever. the only times i've went to the gym consistently was when i had a friend who was also a personal trainer and would go with me and help me out. i cannot not do a lot of exercises properly due to posture issues, extremely weak joints and lack of muscle in certain areas. if it's possible for you i would suggest you try swimming as your main exercise routine. it's easy on the joints while it helps improve posture and build a lot of muscles neccessary for properly performing most normie gym exercises.

No. 583963

>>583555
>>583915
Try daily pilates, yoga or mobility workouts on youtube. You really need to do some kind of work out daily to keep the body functional, it's not a joke or a crazy demand. Even 15 minutes every day will make a difference. The sooner you start the better

No. 583965

>>583639
being a roidpig doesnt make you stronger kek bodybuilders are weak af(infighting)

No. 583966

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>>583965
>body builders are weak af
Okay femcel-chan

No. 583974

>>583566
With the way the world is going, you should be strong and muscular. You'll be in good health even into old age and prevent osteoporosis and confident that if something ever happens, you'll be strong enough to deal with it and survive

No. 584061

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I feel kinda embarrassed to admit this, but I’ve finally decided that I need to lose weight, even though I’ve been gaining more and more over the years. It’s honestly hard to say out loud, because deep down I’ve known for a long time, but I just didn’t care… maybe partly because of my depression. But now that my mental health is starting to get better, I’ve realized that being overweight is actually affecting me a lot. I don’t feel comfortable dressing nicely, and I usually just try to hide my body. I don’t even feel like going out sometimes because I’m so selfconscious. I really hate that I let myself gain this much weight over the years, but I know it’ll only get worse if I don’t do something about it.

Do you have any simple but helpful tips, nonnas? I’m thinking about going to the gym as soon as I can fit it into my schedule.

No. 584063

>>584061
Walk. No really, just walk. Doesn’t matter where you go or how far as long as you’re walking multiple times a week. Walk outside if possible, or walk on a treadmill at a slight incline so it’s easier on your knees. If you’re really starting from square zero, you need to build a foundation of basic strength and mobility so that you don’t get discouraged early.

No. 584066

I dont know where else to post this but today I woke up and looked at the mirror, my buggy droopy prominently deep set eyes was gone. It looks like I got blepharoplasty. My eyes finally looks 'normal' and the skin top of my eyelids was tight and softer instead droopy and saggy, my boobs were also plumpier and not sad. My undereye tears were also fuller and smoother and the coloring was a bit less. Did I gained weight or is to do with estrogen levels/cycle? I've been lately eating low carb but not really in the healthiest way, could it be that? Or sleeping earlier than I usually would? Idk it's so weird my eyes look so much different. I even took photo of it to see if I make it in my head.

No. 584069

>>584066
Sleep, diet, and hormonal cycle can all be factors. Our faces and bodies generally become slightly more symmetrical and glowy when we’re ovulating. Either way I’m happy for you nona!

No. 584086

>>584066
wait until you do yoga every day for a month

No. 584093

>>584069
It's so weird, you would think symmetry is caused by bones but hormones can change your soft facial structure a lot.
>>584086
Tbh I haven't exercised in months lol. But I'm mainly trying to gain weight and muscle mass

No. 584114

>>584061
Weight loss is all about calories in vs calories out. Period. Exercise isn't necessary and doesn't help much, unless your goal is specifically to gain muscle as well as losing weight. But if you just want to slim down, CICO is all that matters. I lost 70lbs without a single minute of exercising.

No. 584118

>>584114
This is true, but focusing on things like walking or other cardio you can do for extended periods of time will genuinely help so much. An hour of walking a day could mean one pound less a week. I just really wouldn't focus on high impact cardio for weight loss.

No. 584134

>>584114
>without a single minute of exercising.
But why nonny, why?!

No. 584157

>>584086
nta would you place yoga higher on the priority list than cardiac exercise? I've been meaning to get inyo yoga but my time management is bullshit at this point kek

No. 584214

The female fitness community is a complete mess. Lots of lies, sugarcoating etcetera to the point most serious gym goers cannot look at women content.
The lady in the video does NOT have 26% bodyfat, at 26% bodyfat it IS possible to have abs but you’d need liposuction. Please stop feeding lies we already are victims in the medical world and this mentality keeps us down.

No. 584216

>>583639
Light doses won’t do much but roiding to actually get stronger is more of a health hazard for women than it is for men. And it’s pretty much useless since all they’ll do is still create separate women records even though they’re heavier and bigger than natty males. If a roided woman cannot be stronger than a natty male and you’ll die young and/or painful what is there any use of it? Growing big glutes with roids and then quitting roids is actually a great idea as keeping your big glutes can be functional for every day life. Of course ideally fitness should be like brushing your teeth but if you’re gonna roid do it for the aesthetics and not to get stronger, because we women are only mentally stronger than men and it’s a modern world (or so), not cavemen society.

No. 584217

>>584216
Also might add that we’re also less susceptible for diseases all a perfect package to be superior member of modern society. Let’s not waste our muscle gains for useless things and grow strong big legs to run away from smelly moids.

No. 584222

>>584157
I think yoga definitely has more benefits than cardio, it pretty much covers all the bases. Hormone balance, makes you look better in the face, keeps you young, improves balance, helps with menstrual stuff, increases mobility and mindfulness, makes you stronger and in most cases it also gives you cardio benefits unless it's something slow paced like yin yoga. If you have time only to do one type of workout you can definitely get away with just yoga, it's been my base for 20 years and I'm much more fit and youthful than my same age peers

No. 584228

>>584134
I hate exercise and would rather spend time on things I enjoy. I just wanted to be slim, not toned or muscular.

No. 584232

>>584228
If you weren’t fat all your life or not that fat to begin with you can get great results with that.

No. 584234

>>584228
Doing this just for aesthetic reasons is severely lacking in foresight

No. 584247

>>584217
>>584216
What the fuck are you talking about? Go back to pinkpill thread. Some of us wants to be strong instead relying on guns. There's nothing gross about being a strong female but I guess looking like a sex doll and then crying about men being stronger is also part of womanhood. You may find being strong useless not all of us do.

No. 584294

>>584247
Why would you take roids and fuck up your hormones and destroy your body because of men?

No. 584306

>>584247
t. Non-muscular
Strong glutes = looking like a sex doll though. If you don’t have big strong powerful glutes and legs, you’re not fit. Don’t skip leg day. Arms can be easily trained.

No. 584317

>>584294
It's not about men are you dumb?

No. 584319

>>584294
>ruining your body=getting muscular
Wahh the horror! Nature has ruined this body enough, I can't ruin it more

No. 584361

Currently trying to lose 20 pounds, I'm on the upper end of a healthy BMI for my height but I would prefer to be in the middle of it or a wee bit below, depending how my body looks. But I also wouldn't mind getting toned as well while I get rid of the unnecessary amount of extra squish off my body.
Since I don't have a lot to do at the moment, I go to the gym every morning where I do 30-40 min cardio (9 in incline with 5.5 speed, with 1 minute of jogging every 5 minutes since I'm still a bit unfit). Then I focus on a specific muscle group each and every visit so I don't overwork them. It's only been almost two weeks and I rest on the weekends, I also track what I eat and try to get my macros and stay within my recommended kcal intake. I enjoy the feeling of getting my body moving in the morning, and changing my eating habits haven't been that big of a deal since I already have some healthy eating habits - I just added some extra beans and greens to my meals and changed out a sauces for healthier options, and I have also started weighting almost everything I eat. But tbh I'm feeling a bit impatient because I can barely wait to see my body slim down and feeling stronger kek and also be able to get up the hill from hell outside my window without getting too winded

No. 584515

>>584361
You're going to have to cut down on cardio to only 10 minutes a day when you hit the weighted workouts. Only do weights at least every other day and on those days you can choose between upper body or lower body workouts. You're going to get more muscle growth this way, which is going to increase the amount of calories you naturally burn by existing each day. It's going to take a while, but have lots of patience. I've been exercising for 7 months now and I can eat 1,700 calories a day and lose 1lb a week. It's absolutely bonkers how great it feels to have much more freedom when you just have more muscles on you.

No. 584548

>>584232
Why? I wasn't fat as a kid, but was for a decade of my adult life.

>>584234
I mean… don't most people do it for aesthetic reasons? I know some do it for health, but I don't think it's even close to people who just wanna look better. I wasn't so huge that it was affecting my health anyway.

No. 584563

>>584515
Thanks for the advice nona! I'll take some time this weekend to rethink my routines. I just enjoy being on the treadmill a lot so I can burn some extra calories to leave room in case there will be some unexpected snacking later kek

No. 584567

>>584319
Roids do ruin your body. But at least you’ll grow a big heart and clit. And will look ugly and bald. Your IQ drops you’ll develop narcissism personality disorder and or sociopathic traits. Oh I forgot it’s almost like becoming an ugly man. Building muscle the natural way is the real way to go, OR, microdose, but since it’s so addicting, you’ll never stop.

No. 584571

>>584548
>I wasn't so huge that it was affecting my health anyway.
This is such a cope. Existing without regular physical exercise affects your health regardless of weight. But you will see soon enough.

No. 584573

>>584567
>you will no longer be pretty and kind to people
Oh no! What a horror!

No. 584574

>>584548
Exercise is for maintaining your overall quality of life. We are not meant to be sedentary. It puts you at risk for many diseases. The obvious like heart disease, diabetes, and high blood pressure, but especially in women, osteoporosis. So many of my female relatives were sedentary their entire life and now their bones are brittle and warping. They need surgery in their 50s. Exercise increases your bone density and keeps them strong. And there's overall shit like certain muscles in your body getting weaker from being sedentary, ruining your posture, causing pinched nerves and a shitload of pain. Not to mention arthritis. Being sedentary severely impacts your quality of life and you might not feel it now, but you will soon.
My advice is to find a form of exercise you really enjoy, for me it's martial arts, weightlifting, and yoga. Can't stand running.

No. 584580

>>584573
It’s good that you care about hitting big numbers looking big as much as possible, I respect your opinion, I hope you achieve it despite knowing the risks, but if you want to condone it, make a separate thread if you want to talk about PED usage, as this is a health thread.

No. 584607

>>584573
NTA but it’s not about not being pretty, it’s about serious risks to your cardiovascular health and brain health. Gear can and will fuck up your body and you risk shortening your own lifespan.

No. 584829

>>584574
Additionally just losing weight without working out causes muscle atrophy. I just hate people who don't take care of their bodies and whining about pain becomes part of their personality around their 30s and they become a nuisance and reliant on everyone around them to help them out later in life just because they are too lazy.

No. 585199

It’s 1am on 7/7/2025, I am making a declaration. I will begin my weight loss journey when I wake up in the morning. My goal is to lose around 30-35kg. I will be active every day. I will portion control. I will eat less without starving myself. I will learn to cook healthy nutritious meals that I look forward to. I will build solid discipline and good habits and make myself proud. My only fear is my weak knees which has stopped me once before but I’ll try not to overexert myself until I burn some weight off to keep the burden on my knees less.

No. 585204

>>585199
Try swimming! Old people do it for a reason. Very easy on the joints, plus you don’t get (noticeably) sweaty.

No. 585227

even despite burning approx 300 calories nearly every day, i still feel like i've been not doing good with my diet. i don't feel like i'm eating enough meat and am still eating 300 calories worth of pasta occasionally. i do put some cauliflower, tomatoes, bell peppers, or onions in my meals. i guess i could use some diet recommendations but idk kek

No. 585228

>>585227
What are your goals? To lose weight? Not eating enough meat is not a problem at all if it doesn't fit your palette/lifestyle. I usually reach my protein goals by choosing the "high protein" option for everything. For example, instead of eating cereal in the morning, I eat a 200cal 20gr of protein yogurt. Instead of eating a simple sandwich with cream cheese or whatever, I buy protein bread and protein cream cheese. Otherwise, the best diet tip is simple calorie counting. It's important for you to find meals that are very satisfying and tasty for you(also easy to make!), that are also low calorie. Once you have that, it's easy to navigate dieting because you always have options.

No. 585233

>>585228
kek i forgot to mention my goals, aside from weight loss i plan on getting into karate which would require muscle, and therefore high protein like you mentioned. i'll be sure to look out for high protein foods besides meat so thanks lol.

No. 585293

>>585228
>I eat a 200cal 20gr of protein yogurt
nta but is this a particular brand or recipe? I'd love to know

No. 585312

How on earth am I meant to eat 160g of protein every day without overeating? I just want to build some muscle

No. 585317

>>585312
Protein powder/smoothies. You don't have to eat tons of protein to build muscles also, you can still build muscle but it will be much slower process

No. 585328

>>585312
Who told you to eat 160? That’s crazy. 100-120 should be plenty.

No. 585341

>>585328
Tdee calculator, it recommended that under the case where I’m working out 3-5 times a week but still want to lose weight. 120g was for a sedentary lifestyle

No. 585363

>>585312
Protein powder, specialised protein milks. Easy!

No. 585381

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>>585293
Of course! It is a vegan yogurt though, if you do not mind that. it might not be sold in usa

No. 585459

>>585312
Protein shakes. I suggest the Ghost ones, which are expensive but at least don't taste like shit like every other powder.

No. 585965

Nonas what does your core routine look like? I only do plank + leg raises and occasionally crunches, I feel like thats not enough to build a really solid core

No. 585968

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>>585965

No. 585969

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Asked in ot but asking again here: how do I motivate a lazy fatty to work out more? Or just to be healthier in general, I don't need them to become gym rats (or even go to the gym, any exercise is fine) I just want them to take their own health seriously and to stop acting like even a 10 minute walk is a personal attack made to ruin their day. They've basically made being a lazy fatty their personality and they seriously need to break out of it.

They're family and I love them. I want them to live long healthy lives, I can NOT just let them be because that's enabling their poor habits and it's genuinely stressful to know I'm contributing to their poor health by buying them the snacks or bad food they want etc (and it also does affect my own health when they insist we take a 3 min drive instead of just walking and they feed me the unhealthy trash too). I'm so ready to support them and be the one to help them without giving up on them.

So for those of you who have been there, what helped motivate you? Is there anything another person could have said or done to help you? ANY ideas and tips welcome!

No. 585978

>>585969
Sorry nonny, you really can't. The person must take care of themselves from their own initiative. If someone doesn't do it there's usually something else going on than being lazy. Even if a person starts taking care of their fitness because of your influence, once you stop being their cheerleader for whatever reason, they will slip back into old habits immediately. They must want to do it on their own and you just can't make them see the problem if they don't want to.

No. 585989

>>585968
If I'm a fatty with weak knees, would I still be able to pull this off?

No. 585996

>>585965
I do the exercise where you are suspended in mid air and bring your knees to your chest. Idk what it’s called.

No. 585997

>>585989
Use sufficient padding and start with a much smaller range of movement than in the picture

No. 586004

Purchased an ab wheel and I’m slowly working on unsticking my clitoral adhesions. Lolcor is my social media influencer.

No. 586036

>>585968
do you recommend buying one of these? i have my finger on the "buy now" button but i'm unsure if it'd produce results any different than regular old calisthenics would.

No. 586052

>>586036
Please get it. It's life changing. this gave me so many improvements in life, not only as a core and overall body workout but also somehow magically made my unbearable period cramps stop. Also makes you super strong in a matter of weeks, all the other body weight exercises became much more easier. Just get one with padded handles because hard ones are not nice on the hands

No. 586054

I'm really fat. Like 186 lbs 5'1 fat. I've already started to OMAD and take short jogs/walks around the neighborhood, but my knees and right inner groin(?) are so weak even after 3 months. I can't take this anymore, I've plateaued so hard. I also want to build up my concave ass but squats aren't doing shit. Thinking of doing stairmaster 45 mins a day but I know it gonna be hell on my knees. FUUUUUUUUUUCCCKKKK

No. 586055

>>586052
alright i'm sold, thank you! do you have any recommendations by chance? i was just going to get the most reviewed on on amazon, but who knows if those reviews are even legitimate.

No. 586056

>>586055
Cant recommend anything cuz I got the cheapest one I could find. I ended up wrapping the handles with socks to avoid hardening the skin

No. 586059

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>>586056
alright. thanks again, nona. i'm excited to start using it once it gets here

No. 586065

>>586054
can you get a rebounder?

No. 586070

>>586054
If you have access to a gym, start walking on the treadmill at a slight incline. This works out your glutes, burns more calories than regular walking, and it’s easier on your ankles than walking flat while building your strength. Keep increasing the incline until you can max it out and keep a brisk pace for an hour, your legs will be strong and toned in no time.

No. 586078

>>586070
nta but do you get cardio benefits from that too?

No. 586080

>>586078
If you walk fast or steep enough to raise your heart rate and break a sweat, yes. Bodybuilders commonly get their cardio in this way.

No. 586191

Would 10k steps be doing too much for a rest day? Or maybe incline walking on the treadmill for 30 mins? Still quite new to this but I dont want to just stay at home doing nothing

No. 586308

Should I bother getting a gym membership? It’s 55 bucks a month, 24/7 access, very close, and seems to have decent benefits. It’s not that fancy but I think it would be okay. The thing is I’ve historically done the vast majority of my exercise outdoors, either solo or on teams. But now that I’m on a salt based med it makes it much more difficult to exert myself in hot weather, and I want to limit outdoor exertion a bit while still getting a lot of exercise (especially during summer). I’m just worried I won’t be able to stick with the gym because it’s not what I’m used to!

No. 586311

>>586308
I personally hate the gym and find it very boring. It might be worth seeing if there are classes you can sign up for or join a pickleball team or something, before committing to a gym membership.

No. 586313

>>586191
That sounds fine but if you've been doing a lot of intense workouts it's better if you use your rest day to stretch.
>>586308
DO NOT join the gym in the first 2 weeks of January or in the summer. You're going to be swamped by the sweatiest piss-stained scrotes alive, crowding the machines, posturing at each other in front of the weights, and making disgusting noises as they try and fail to deadlift their own weight to impress their friends.
The gym isn't a bad investment in itself, but this is a terrible time to join.

No. 586314

>>586313
tell me nona, are home gyms worth it?

No. 586318

>>586314
It's definitely worth it. I honestly don't mind the gym at all but when the clueless hordes are unleashed upon the machines at those 2 specific times of the year it's a fucking nightmare. Gym equipment doesn't have to cost a lot, a few weights and a treadmill or bike won't be super expensive and won't take up a lot of room. You can get folding treadmills and trampolines quite easily and relatively cheaply too. If you don't have the room for machines, you can get a great workout with weights, bands, an ab wheel, and a mat.

No. 586321

>>586318
my only qualm is the maintenance costs of a pricey machine. that, and i like going to the gym for social reasons. i go at 6 am and see the retirees, it's nice to chat with them as a neet.

No. 586397

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Have any anons successfully lost weight while taking medication that fucks with your weight? I'm on almost 800mg of one of those and even doing worse than what I did when I was an anachanisn't working. I'm still able to do regular and work-out activities, but as a diagnosed retard, movements will literally squish fat and it is making me lose my shit because of how gross it is and how I can envision all that yellowy tissue. Is there any way out of this without throwing them out and going back to being the Eraserhead baby made wide in Microsoft Paint?

No. 586438

>>586313
True, I did notice there were mostly men there and it honestly rlly bothered me. Probably should have also included that in my original post. The gym near me is… not that big either so the crowding could be a serious issue. I’m gonna look at some larger ones online and see what the prices are

No. 586439

>>586311
Yeah I guess anything that’s indoors will work, doesn’t have to just be a solo gym experience. I’ll look around to see

No. 586444

>>586438
How crowded the gym feels depends on location and time of day tbh. For example a Planet Fitness near a university is always going to be packed to the gills at 4pm. But a small local gym only has chill retirees at 5am and probably doesn’t pick up again until after everyone clocks out at 5. I’d suggest taking tours at the time of day you plan on working out

No. 586511

I know that it's possible with enough protein, but have any of you successfully toned/built muscle while in a deep caloric deficit?

No. 586516

>>586511
No

No. 586517

>>586511
you know that when you're on a deficit, your body eats up what's available (your muscles)? it just doesnt make any sense

No. 586519

>>586511
Only when I am eating at a surplus have I ever built muscle.

No. 586540

went from 135 to 117 lbs since february-ish just from CICO. i barely exercise except walking a lot and going up stairs at my job. sadly it's true

No. 586677

1 week of gym done, still a fatty… jokes aside I got jump-scared by the weighing scale today. I went up by 0.6kg from yesterday, but if I were to compare to the start of the week its an overall 0.3kg loss from Monday. Not as much as I was hoping for but I’ll take it

No. 586705

What are the best resistance bands routines at home for the upper and lower body? I don't trust youtube tutorials and so many of them are weights based but I can't afford weights at the moment.

No. 586729

>>586705
You can trust YouTube tutorials… they're just resistance bands.

No. 586739

>>586677
>went up by 0.6kg
Nonnas itt and overall need to stop taking account of such low weight fluctuations, it can literally be shit

No. 586748

>>586739
The girls are spiraling over half a pound of shit brewing in their colons

No. 586969

Used to be squatting 110kg now I'm about to pass out at 70. I wish I never stopped this hobby…

No. 587209

I am so fucking ugly. I've gained 40 lbs and I just feel like an idiot. I have to lose at least 30 before October and I know I'll be able to because I've done it before but I'm just super concerned about how my skin will look after


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