I have been thinking recently I'd love to have a thread where we could post documentaries. I watch a lot especially when doing stuff around the house so I can post a couple of favourites I recommend here in the OP, more in the comments if anyone is interested, and would love to find some new ones!
Interview with a Cannibal: Guy who met up with another guy online who consented to being murdered and eaten. Morbid but interesting watch. German, so subtitled.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKzf-rG9JBs
Polygamy Doc: One Man, Six Wives, Twenty something kids. A guy in utah who keeps very very young wives and at the time of filming, being 40 ish, was trying to woo a 16 year old kid. (not a spoiler but he subsequently went to jail and a few wives left him, some stayed. Very interesting to watch and to look into after)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqORJHyNWJc&t=2s
A historical one for variety: The truth about hygiene etc in Versailles. Stumbled across this and left it on while doing my makeup and really liked it! Sent me down a nice historical rabbithole, not of actual history per se but of little tidbits like this about daily life and lesser known shit (literally)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWYIgqMEE2o&t=1s
Ok back to morbid. If you haven't seen this already, it's insane, a little girl, "child of rage". Another one interesting to look into what happened afterwards (she was later put through attachment therapy)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9GYExnh1yU&t=71s
Abigail & Brittany Hensel, conjoined twins who are cool to watch and learn about. They recently became teachers.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K57IcN9DWXo&t=719s
Another set of conjoined twins, Taty and Krista, the only time this sort of conjoinment has been observed. They essentially share a brain and nobody can imagine how they see through each other's eyes and how they're connected. Well made doc toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH4I_7CC4wg
Documentary about Juliana Whetmore, a little girl with one of the most severe cases of treacher collins the world has seen. Like the ones above, if you watch docs you've likely already seen this, but if you haven't, it is a bit hard to watch.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjpTVYVM5wQ&t=1853s
Aaaaand one on incest and "genetic sexual attraction". Good for a shock watch.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPjvqIXSdM4&t=1070s
These are just some basic ones to see if anyone is interested in the thread!I fucked up posting this like three times so here goes again my bad
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I do the same, I mainly watch shock documentaries or ones that make me cringe so if that’s your sort of thing or you fancy a giggle,
40 year old virgins is about two people who go to America to meet sex therapists https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dYLF77W8y6U
A very British brothel is a family run brothel that shows it all in an almost comical lighthttp://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3ho5xl
The girl who became three boys is more serious but a really bizarre casehttp://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2w9a5y
My barbie bodyhttps://vidoza.net/ijeu4spwc8hw.html
My granny the escorthttp://putlockers.fm/watch/yd6JeMd7-my-granny-the-escort.html
A 2006 British drug trial that went wronghttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WW3gKEd-IfA
Female serial killer Joanna dennehy is a pretty shocking watchhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ofqOUnh-EAo
Life of human pupshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dViIVCg0OpQ
The secrets of the living dolls and we’re not talking Venus, this is grown men putting on rubber suitshttp://coolmoviezone.info/secrets-of-the-living-dolls-2014/
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Who Took Johnny. I believe its on netflix.
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Paris is Burning is a fucking classic, but that ugly AGP prostitute was my first peak trans. Especially when it was still on YT and everyone was reeing about terfs in the comments whenever someone called him creepy.
Oh, and Black Fish was depressing, but I liked it. I used to watch a lot of documentaries, but I can't remember any of them now…
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Do people outside of the UK know/care about Louis Theroux?
Kind of? Mexican public TV (Canal Once, specifically) used to play his works every know and then.
Also, contributing to the topic with this Youtube channel and the last doc I saw.
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i've always appreciated his panache and sass, but he had some fucked up ideas about what it is to be a woman.
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• Grey Gardens
• Sick: The Life and Death of Bob Flanagan, Supermasochist
• The Devil and Daniel Johnston
• The Impostor
• God Loves Uganda
In a way, all of the above docs are about lolcows of one description or another.
I really recommend Zoo, it's about a group of Zoophiles and one of them dies due to internal bleeding after fucking a horse. Hilariously fucked up, not suggested if you're faint of heart or love horses.
Other ones I like:
Paris is Burning
Carts of Darknesshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi-f_J6hV-g
OP here, I have been trying to find a place to watch Zoo for so fucking long and have never succeeded :(>>1715
Ireland here so it doesn't really count but yeah he's big here. I like his uh, subtly catty style lmao. I never copped that he was like that until my bf pointed it out too. I feel asleep during the scientology one though even though I was super hyped for it>>1708
I love you. I feel like our interests are identical lol
Here's a new one on furries and professional apologisers apparently but not available in my country:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_kwdyzyd6o
Not a documentary but might as well be, crazy religious girl morning routine that made me literally laugh out loud a few days ago:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UZ8Q2DtYec&t
Trash quality but this is about jani and bodhi, if you havent heard of them it's very munchausen-y, their mom pushes a diagnosis of schizophrenia on both her kids by enabling whack behaviour and it's angering to watch tbhhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61GmUYCzCzU
Genie Wiley, a girl severely abused and neglected for her whole life as a teenager, left in a dark room chained to a potty, she wasn't retarded at birth but had absolutely no skills or language so they tried to see if they could teach her. This one makes me sad though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjZolHCrC8E&t=5s
People who parent those very lifelike fake newborns:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4_K8JTtXn0&t=90s
Love you too anon
I think this might be the furry onehttp://www.channel4.com/programmes/world-of-weird/on-demand/63311-006
The Genie case is incredibly sad, thanks for the links, going to give them a watch
This documentary is particularly interesting in relation to lolcows and their obsession with filming their lives. This guy became an absolute trainwreck of narcissism, drug addiction, and mental illness but didn't stop filming.https://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/tv_junkie
Rick Kirkham got his first video camera when he was 14 years old. It became his best friend and confidant. From that point on, he began documenting every facet of his life. He got his first break in TV as a dancer on American Bandstand. A little nudge from Dick Clark to pursue a career in television, and he was on his way. He quickly rose through the ranks from local TV news to a gig as a national correspondent for Inside Edition. His girlfriend then got pregnant, and they got married. Everything was golden . . .or was it? The flip side of his life was another story, and his camera shockingly captured both with the same candor and vigor. What unfolds in TV JUNKIE is a riveting journey into the heart of darkness, where one man's fight for survival is caught on tape in an unprecedented way. A self-imposed "The Truman Show" with a dark twist, TV JUNKIE transcends one man's tragic story and becomes a harrowing reflection on a generation obsessed with celebrity and technology. Utilizing more than 3,000 hours of footage, directors Michael Cain and Matt Radecki tackle the Herculean task of editing it with intelligence, compassion, and honesty to tell this unbelievable story that is both a cautionary tale and a gripping portrait of a TV JUNKIE.
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more like these please! i love cringe documentaries, it's my bread and butter
life with lisa ling documentary about pickup artists:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wXeyaYdwo0
the woman who wasn't there (about a woman who pretended she was a victim
short documentary on loveshy men:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ8EAwRauoM
true life: i'm an adult baby:http://www.mtv.com/episodes/sliu3b/true-life-i-m-an-adult-baby-season-22-ep-24
You guys probably know about this case but, just bringing awareness based on recent events regarding one of the killers.
Both these boys were given only 8 years in secure children's homes and new names. Jon Venables ended up in possession of child porn/abusive
images multiple times, arrested,and given another new name. Just this month he was back in the news for again having not only child porn but, a pedo manual. James Bulger's mom is fighting to lift his anonymity for obvious reasons. Besides that, a woman has once feared him being the father of her child without knowing his past, again proving how fucked up it is to keep his identity from the public.
I recommend reading the wiki on this case, the details about what they did to James is disturbing and puts in perspective how messed up that they got let out so early with what seemed to be with little therapy or consoling.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger
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The Up Series is a series of films (one is made every 7 years) that chronicle the lives of fourteen British children. It began in 1964 when all the participants were 7 years old and it has now gone on for nearly half a century.
One of my all time favorit documentary is the mouse Utopia.
Sadly it is not very long.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z760XNy4VM&feature=youtu.be
I really love psychology documentarys which try to understand behaviors, reason of specific acts and stuff like that.
The most evil, was interesting too. It is about mass murderer.http://crimedocumentary.com/most-evil-season-1-2006/
Documentary about two girls in the beauty pageant scene. https://youtu.be/dwttqXiCE-I
Adoptive mother of 11 special needs children.https://youtu.be/L_LmrrQG35o
Follows 2 teens in a detention center in NY.https://youtu.be/klxB_HrtCKo
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Request for YouTube documentaries? I’ve watched all in the OP and they’re like the only things that keep me entertained at the gym. Please and thank you!!!!
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I was also trying to find a good documentary about boarding schools, specifically in Europe. If anyone knows of any good docs on this subject, please let me know!
old post but I watched this documentary and while it was really sad, and I really want to believe it's true, at the same time it's hard to decide because the film maker didn't even once try to get the perspective of the jackson estate which is a big no no in journalism. A lot of people think they're doing this as revenge but it's hard to ignore the weird facts (like why did the parents OK their young boys sleeping in the same bed as him? Let alone let him be alone with young boys for extended periods..)
I highly recommend louis theroux's documentaries for anyone who's in love with documentaries like me. I'm sure most of you probably have heard/watched him, but the some what recent series on love with dementia was a total travesty to watch (in a sad but good way).
Louis is great. For anyone who is looking for specific recommendations, my two favorite pieces by him are:
– Louis and the Brothel: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ou9a6
Centers around one Nevadan brothel, it's employees and clientele, and in large part the character of one interesting and somewhat tragic sex worker. Her turbulent history with men gets told in part by her relationship to Louis and IMO it speaks to the strength of having himself as a character in his films as opposed to being a hands-off documentary filmmaker.
– Demolition Derby: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6pqf7l
This one is just a good time fun romp.. he travels through middle America meeting with people in the destruction derby scene. They seem to actually not really connect with each other so their interactions are friendly but pretty stiff and awkward. It doesn't really have any sad or cringe elements to it so it ends up being kind of wholesome.
Just finished the "Gypsy's Revenge" documentary on youtube (I'm not in the US though so I'm not sure if this link will work for US anons) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY6bmLk0M_4
I personally enjoyed it and do feel remorse for Gypsy. She was manipulater by her mother and then by her first 'boyfriend' while being mentally stunted–it was bound to turn out badly.
This is outrageous. There was more concern about getting cameras on the scene than actually rescuing people!
What absolutely gutted me was the realization that the diver who testified in court later ended up dying of suicide. I played back his clip a few times because it was so poignant what he said about not being able to forget and questioning the elites who said they couldn’t remember. It hit me so hard. The crowd visibly reacts to his statement. It’s such a powerful moment.
Also I can’t help but wonder about all the students in the footage where they’re onboard waiting and talking about whether it’s one of those situations where people die when they follow orders and stay put. They probably really did end up dying like they predicted. Holy shit. What a horrific tragedy.
Ugh, i remember this. i was also a high schooler when it happened and it horrified me. 304 people died… mostly kids…
There is also footage where the rescuers are near the ship when it was almost sunk and you can see someone bang on a window but they don't see it
Can you guys post your favorite wildlife documentaries? I watched this video and I'm craving more. Animals are so fascinating.>>27093
So sick to watch. The more I hear things about south korea, the more it resembles a 3rd world country. They have so many problems with legality and social issues, even abusing animals there is A-okay according to the gov.
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so i'm taking a relaxing day to watch documentaries about interesting people and i can highly recommend these:
-"I Think We're Alone Now" : a short doc following 2 people with aspergers who are kind of dangerously obsessed with former teen pop idol Tiffany
-"The Parking Lot Movie" : a bunch of misfit overeducated young men working as parking lot attendants and getting up to artistic shenanigans
-"Marwencol" : man with brain damage lives vicariously through a 1/6 sized WW2 era model town he built in his backyard. he makes dolls based off of people he knows and it's equally creepy and understandably sad
if anyone has recs like these i'd love to hear them, i love seeing life through the perspective of outsiders
checked out marwencol- heartbreaking but hopeful. hope that guy is doing okay this year
found out they made a movie about him too. kinda wanna see it
If any of you are interested in one of a kind, beautiful and strong old ladies - you need to watch this documentary!
>For decades, Jola did what was expected of her. As a mother of six and the wife of an abusive husband, she would put on her make-up and colourful clothes to pretend everything was fine. One day something breaks inside her and she finds the strength to leave her husband and start living life to the fullest. She hangs out with her girlfriends, dances in Café Smile, writes poems and songs. She sings about love - something she's always dreamt of, yet never experienced. Unexpectedly, she meets Wojtek, who treats her like a queen. Will she be able to open up and embrace love for the first time?Especially, when she finds out that she has less time than she thought?
It's polish but available with English subtitles.
I'm in love with this beautiful old lady, what an inspiration. I hate society for brainwashing women into thinking that life ends once you are no longer X years old. I wanna be like Jola when I grow old, looking like an old Hollywood star and living in a house with a figure of Botticelli's Venus in the garden.
It is amazing, but fair warning: it might pink pill you since present men ain't shit compared to women in this movie! Even the good one says a super shitty thing and the viewer can only hope that the later apology was for this bs.
The scenes with Jola's husband are hard to watch, but they are also short. Just a fair warning since he's a real piece of shit human being.
Finally found the full Takarazuka documentary! Hope you're still around here anon.
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Fascinating stuff, I'm nta but I've always loved these ladies and been curious about the inner workings of the Revue. I find it mind-blowing (although I shouldn't) that even in an all-female cast they are expected to uphold "traditional" gender roles where those playing women are submissive and direct attention to those playing men. Right before this the other actress says those playing men get to be more "natural," which is telling of how we're simply socialized to fade into the backdrop. Also funny how the fans are talking later about how only a woman can play the ideal man, because we don't have any of men's "courseness" and typical failings. A lot of the shows they put on are standard romances where even the leading woman's goal is simply to be swept away by a guy. I enjoy romantic fluff as much as anyone, but it's saddening this also translates into how the actresses are treated outside of their work and that there seem to be few cases where their shows step outside that mold.
Yes I was so shocked about the whole "women serve men and women are in the background" mindset that translated into their performances. I thought that an all-women cast would diminish those conservative roles.
But idk anon I don't think the romance plots are something negative. To me it's similar to shoujo manga. Like the romance is purely for women and a way for them to escape from the sad reality of men being shitty. The two middle aged ladies who talked about their boring life and husbands went to the theatre in secret as some sort of escapism.
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I've been really enjoying watching anything Louis Theroux's made that I can get my hands on. I love how personal it all is and the weird, uncomfortable conversations that he doesn't shy away from engaging in. Unfortunately in the US it's difficult to get access to a lot of what he's made. Is there like some mega link any of you have access to with shows/films?
Here's a link with some:https://watchdocumentaries.com/tag/louis-theroux/
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Does anyone know where to watch Framing Britney Spears (aka the 6th episode of New York Times Presents) for free? I'm losing my shit trying to find it and I'm super curious about it!
Did that actually happen? When he did that thing with Christina Aguilera, he began coming out with all sorts of "famous ladies love me" bullshit.
I still cringe thinking about the music video he directed as a pretext to make out with Halle Berry.
thanks friend. I actually just saw that it was on some streaming service the other day and watched it, remembered I made that post here.
really interesting, I wish it were longer + more in depth however.
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Any Adam Curtis fans here? He has a new series out.
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Seen it many years ago. I remember feeling really sympathetic for Gene Sprague and almost had something like a crush for him.
His livejournal is still around if anyone's interested:https://freekboyg.livejournal.com/
And here are two more relevant links, in case anyone else cares:https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/26753163/gene-romal_allen-spraguehttps://www.deviantart.com/brohawk/journal/Remembering-my-friend-Gene-234353055
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I’ve been enjoying the BBC Historical Farms series. A team of historians live as farmers from various time periods in British history for a year. I thought it would be boring but it’s addicting.
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These are incredible. I have watched every one. I love Ruth Goodman so much and Alex & Peter are amazing. The BBC keeps reairing these so I think they're popular enough but they havent made new ones in a while… they had better start again after covid or I swear I will find Peter, dress him in hose and make him coppice hazel rods for my delight.
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This series is really good to binge watch.
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Has anyone seen Caught in the Net? Or know how to access it outside of Europe? It's a 2020 Czech documentary where a team hired three young but legal actresses to play 12-year-olds and gave them manufactured social media accounts. Within 10 days they were contacted by 2458 male predators trying to show them their genitals, convince the girls to get nude and meet with them for sex. We all know sexual exploitation of girls is easier than ever with the rise of social media, but this seems like it would really put it on stark display. I can't include the trailer here since it's on Vimeo but link is: https://vimeo.com/395961830
Just found it for you anons! Gonna watch it as well, very interesting. Apparently this is an uncensored version with English subs.https://playfilm.to/movies/caught-in-the-net-18/
Warning, the page is retarded and it takes some attempts of clicking on the pixelated play button and watching youtube adverts before it works. I deleted my reply thinking it's a scam, but it isn't. The link does work.
Thank you so much anon, you’re the best! Will watch soon once I’m through work.>>140768
God I’m glad the crew put in the effort to expose this stuff further but I agree it’s nightmare fuel. I look back on my childhood and remember some pretty fucked up things as well. I recall one older guy who was a police officer with a girlfriend chatting with me when I was underage and trying to get photos (I wish I had the maturity to know I should’ve reported him, although cops protect their own) but at least there wasn’t an existing culture of sharing stuff or being so sexual at a young age then. Guess I shouldn’t be surprised by all this, but it’s still depressing and horrifying.
Thank you for your explanation. It makes more sense than the quote from the documentary. Still, I'm not sure if I agree. I think one has to be at least a bit pedo to get horny over a child. I could never. It's literally unimaginable to me. >Basically, what being a pedophile is, is being attracted only to prepubescent children
You accidentally reminded me how much I hate when people say 'first of all, attraction to teenagers is EPHEBOPHILIA". I don't give a fuck, those people should be shamed as much as possible.
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Finished watching it. Pic related is exactly how I felt the whole time. BTW did anyone feel weird about the guy talking to a 12 year old girl? I won't pretend I wasn't touched by the one wholesome moment in the whole documentary even though it seemed like it was there to push 'not all men' agenda
and the guy was kinda cute but still… I don't know. I may have warped views on the topic.
I wish the confronted pedo's face was shown, since he said he doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks about him. I completely lost it at:>if you had a daughter of 12 years, you'd see it differently.>Go down the road there and you can buy a 12-year old. That's normal here. Far worse problems aren't being addressed. This hit show makes Gypsies look great, but they're all on welfare. Why not address that?
WHAT THE FUCK AM I WATCHING. I hope his claim of pedo brothel is just his fantasy and not a reality, and that he's banned from working with children forever.>>140799
That women was horrifying. Unicorn hunters are cancerous, but pedo ones take it to the next level.
This doc is great. I wish more parents would monitor or severely limit their kids’ internet access because this kind of shit happens all the time. >>140805>>140808
I had a lot of adult men chatting with me when I was like 12-14 even when they knew my age. They almost always got creepy after a bit, but would often try to earn my trust and have “normal” conversation at first, “wow you’re so smart and mature, can’t believe you’re only 12!” Not to be a pessimist, but there is pretty much no good reason for an adult to have contact with a random child online. Just because he’s not sending dick pics during their first convo doesn’t mean he’s a good guy. Those guys are testing the waters and seeing how easy the girl can be manipulated.
>>140841>Just because he’s not sending dick pics during their first convo doesn’t mean he’s a good guy. Those guys are testing the waters and seeing how easy the girl can be manipulated.
Just for clarity's sake, the Czech subtitles stated that he spoke more times with the actress and he didn't pull any sexual shit… Still, my thoughts exactly! I'm deeply afraid that the guy is a more skilled predator, a groomer that can wait months before he moves onto sexual (or otherwise dangerous) actions. The type that makes his victim
believe he is her boyfriend so that he can manipulate her even further. IDK what was the guy's agenda, but I feel like saying there is 10% chance it wasn't something skeevy is being generous. If it was a woman, I would believe she's looking out for a young girl, but a man? Fat chance of that happening. Honestly, it's more believable to me that the guy was set up by the creators of the documentary. It makes for more interesting narrative and deflects possible criticism that the documentary is promoting misandry (retarded take, but this is the world we live in).
I also thought it's sus that he shown his face. At first I thought that it may be a proof that he isn't a creep, but then I realized that IF he had some unhealthy interest in underage girls, that would help him a lot ("You know, I've been in a documentary about this kind of thing, I'm one of the good guys!"). So I think I'm gonna stick with the theory that he is also an actor, playing a decent person without the girls knowing so that their reaction is honest.>>>140784>I was happy to see "Misha" girl yell at that dude who tried to blackmail her with nudes but I wish he could actually end up in jail, not be only yelled at. It's all so terrifying and dangerous for girls.
Forgot to mention it earlier, but this part also made me a bit satisfied, especially when she thew his drink at him. Still, I couldn't help but think that trying to talk these men out of their degeneracy is a waste of time. We are too kind to them, either because society is patriarchal or because women are too empathetic. I think the answer is to accept that some people deserve nothing more than a brick to their head… or at least prison. Maybe sex offender villages aren't that bad idea. If only they couldn't leave them. They 100% deserve rotting with other degenerates, secluded from society. I do not believe in rehabilitation of someone with sociopathic sexuality.
Just look at how guys will always be at least slightly against "metoo" shit too. They tell horror stories of "fake accusations" which usually are nowhere as horrific as the rape stories themselves. Like most guys probably couldn't 100% confidently say that all of their sexual encounters with the women in their lives were enthusiastic and very clearly consensual, they start to sweat that something they did 10 years ago could come and bite them in the ass. While 99% of women can't relate to that thought, fortunately.>>140755
Honestly I didn't expect them actually showing so many uncensored dicks, but holy shit predators have the ugliest fucking dicks too. And the way the guy started squirming when the actress read his messages out loud in public, that was satisfying.
it's not retarded to think about it anon, i don't know if you watch history documentaries but this obssession with extremely young girls goes way back in time and in a lot of different societies. i would also love for it to be cultural so we can all work to get to a future where this doesn't happen to so many girls but yeah, being confronted with data like in this doc makes you lose a bit of faith>>140876
that's exactly it. they rush to defend themselves and others who do even worse things because there is a chance they did something wrong or might in the future. i remember a survey done where a significant number of guys said they would not rape a woman, but would force her to have sex in some way. guys like that will obviously not support victims
from a crime similar to the one they commited.
it also reminds me of the movement against the sex offender registry and how they claim that peeing in public will get you there when only one case of this happening was proven.
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encounters at the end of the world, dir. werner herzog
it's about antarctica. turned me on to this book called big dead place about the insane bureaucracy they have down there. basically the scientific bases are run by raytheon and everybody hates it. most of that's not in the movie though, herzog is too nice.
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Reminds me of this pre-internet scumbag. He started seeing her when he put out an album based on the novel Lolita. It's not rocket science. I shared this info on a different imageboard & they didn't seem to get the job done. You're welcome ladies.
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I just finished watching this and honestly Im not sure if it deserves an oscar. The imagery was beatiful and knowing about animals lives is always intesresting but the guy felt so creepy and obssessive. So many people saying this movie was a revelation to them and that they never knew we were so connected with nature. Bitch what? We're animals. We are monkeys with pants. We are part of nature, of course other animals think too, of course they feel pain, and fear, and happiness. What are you? Dumb? Have you never left your house before?
did make me sad though
Abducted in plain sight on netflix.
Basically it’s about a close family friend who who kidnapped their daughter TWICE
Firstly, the pedophile "B", manages to convince the parents to let him sleep in the 12 years old's (Jan) bed while she slept. He said it was his “Therapy” because the church had already called him out for being obsessed with another little girl. He said his Therapy included sleeping next to Jan while listening to weird tapes.
The mother, Mary ann said it was weird but, “it was his therapy” so they allowed it. THEN B seduces Mary Ann, he grabbed her boobs, and then they had a little affair. Shortly after that, B asks the dad (Bob) for “relief” aka a Handjob. The dad does it. So he fucked the mom and got a handjob from the dad of his victim.
B then asks the parents to take Jan horse riding on a school night, the mom wasn’t “Comfortable” with it but she said yeah. B drugs Jan, takes her to Mexico and convinces her that she’s half alien and needs to sleep with him before she’s 16 to save her home planet. If she did not, he’d move on to her sister and someone in her family would die.
Meanwhile, Jan’s parents waited 5 days before calling the FBI and had to be convinced that B had kidnapped their daughter. After a month B’s brother got a call from B saying he wanted to marry Jan and he’d only come back if her parents gave them permission.
Apparently at the time they were already married and it was legal for a man to marry a 12 year old in Mexico.
B’s brother told Mary Ann and then called the FBI who tapped his phone and found Jan and B. Jan’s parents picked her up and Jan was extremely brainwashed.
They had the marriage annulled and B was charged with kidnapping. The FBI told Jan’s dumb ass parents not to have any contact with B or his family.
A month later B’s wife came and begged them to drop the charges, then threatened by saying that B would tell everyone about Bob giving him a handie and was a homosexual.
So Jan’s parents did what any parents would do when the wife of a man who kidnapped their daughter threatens them.
They signed the affidavit saying that JAN HAD NOT BEEN KIDNAPPED AND B THOUGHT HE HAD PERMISSION FROM THE FAMILY TO TAKE JAN. Doing this stalled the case and B would still write Jan letters and would sneak to see her.
But also during this time, B began to talk to Mary Ann, telling her he loved her, basically convinced her that he wanted to be with her. Bob found out and filed for divorce, but he took back his wife. He took back the wife who had a 8-MONTH affair with the man who kidnapped, raped and brainwashed their daughter.
He made her promise she wouldn’t speak to B again, 2 years later B takes a plea deal. He gets 5 years, but it was reduced to 45 days, and he only served 10 days (WTF).
B moves and opens a “Family Fun Center” and wants Jan to come. Jan wants to go, her parents say no, but then Mary Ann LETS HER GO.
So Jan travels to go see the man who kidnapped, raped and brainwashed her with the permission from her dumb ass parents. Of course, when Mary Ann decides to be a parent, she suddenly wants her daughter back home and B threatens her.
Then suddenly B doesn’t know where Jan is. Jan disappears again. While she’s gone her parents lie to people saying that Jan is with their grandparents because they are embarrassed.
They called the FBI two weeks after she’s gone this time. FBI find B, B has a fucking shrine in his house of Jan but Jan isn’t anywhere to be found.
A few MONTHS past and Jan calls home, says she’s okay and misses them. Said that she hadn’t spoken to B in a few weeks. Her dad then asks her does B still want to marry her, Jan says she wants to marry him. The dad asks again if B wants to marry her still and Jan says yes.
FBI finds Jan and finds out B had enrolled her in school under a fake name, pretending to be her dad. B gets arrested, Jan goes home and she’s depressed and brainwashed. B was charged with kidnapping but acquitted because he had a mental Defect, again wtf?
Jan tells her parents on her 16th birthday what B had told her about being half alien and needing to have his baby by 16 or bad shit would happen, Jan realizes it’s all a lie and begans to move on & heal.
Years later Mary Ann’s dumb ass writes a story about what happened to Jan, the same mom who fucked the man who kidnapped her daughter, handed her to him a second time and let him sleep in her bed for “therapy”. I also heard she left out her fucking B in the book.
B would harass Jan and show up to events Jan had to speak out about what happened and raise awareness. He showed up to a event, hurt some bikers that were trying to protect Jan’s event/Jan and the police came, B had a gun and he was charged with felonies.
B kills himself so he doesn’t have to go to prison.
Jan says she forgives her parents and in the doc, B’s brother admits he knew that B was a pedo, that he liked, “Young girls”.
This documentary will make you so mad, especially when you see the parents lack of emotions towards certain things, but the dad was really emotional when he talked about giving B a handjob. The real life phone calls are even weird and emotionless as well. I feel so bad for Jan.
This is truly one of the most bizarre and frustrating true crime docs I’ve ever watched. The parents act like utter morons, the pedo kidnapper basically gets a slap on the wrist for raping and brainwashing a child, and said pedo kidnapper was free to terrorize the victim
again as an adult because muh free speech. Jan is still fucked up and (understandably) has fucked up views of relationships, and of course the dude has at least 6 other victims
who have come forward. I’m sure he’d still be at it if he hadn’t committed suicide. The law really does nothing for rape/grooming victims
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Goodnight, Sugar Babe: The Killing of Vera Jo Reigle. It's about a bunch of shitty people with shitty teeth killing a mentally disabled woman.
Seriously EVERYONES teeth in this is disgusting but it's still a good doc.
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Just came across a Belgian doc available to watch online for free talking about online harassment directed at women. I feel like this subject became so trivialized we barely talk about it anymore even though it's constant, disgusting and relentless, and tbh we keep seeing it on LC with regular raids, tho it's still nothing like when it's personal. For anyone interested, here's the linkhttps://www.arte.tv/en/videos/098404-000-A/fatuglyslut/