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No. 190380

thread for comic books, et cetera - DC, marvel, whatever you like (picrel is red hood). not a purist, so feel free to talk about movie/game adaptions as well, as long as it's related to source material.

what comics have you been reading/have read? do u think the recent trend of superhero movies is good for the industry? DC or marvel (with minimal infighting)?

No. 190387

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just found this webcomic, it's right in the beginning and i really like it so far since i like franco belgian slice of life/realistic, autobiographical comics in general

https://www.littletinythings.com/

No. 190389

>>190387
(sorry if this was supposed to be just american comics thread though i just wanted to link that comic here)

No. 190394

>>190389
whatever comics is fine!

No. 190397

>>190387
that's pretty cool actually, ill check it out. TBH apart from the little prince i didnt even know there were french language comics…or picture books in that case

No. 190402

>>190397
france and belgia have a big comic industry. asterix and tintin are huge examples, they're called bande dessinée. third largest comic festival in the world is held in france, called angoulême international comics festival

No. 190425

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>>190402
i forgot that they use tintin as french language resources, at least in europe. how much french i actually learned from it is by the by. also barbapapa haha

No. 190428

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>>190397
There's also the Smurfs and Valerian, just to name 2 of the latest and most internationally successful movie adaptations

Biggest drama in franco-belgian comic industry right now is that they're rebooting Gaston Lagaffe
For those who don't know, usually european comics, just like manga, die when their original (and unique) writer die, but under what seems to be american comics' influence more and more get a reboot. Sometimes it's a complete tone change (Spirou), sometimes it's as close to the original as possible (Astérix). Some see it as another money grubbing scheme by greedy editors, some think of it as an occasion to get new stories

No. 190437

/m/113313
was the old thread.

No. 190447

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>>190428
Just barging in to say you reminded me that I found out about Valerian thanks to the French/Japanese anime long ago, with the French voice acting which was pretty ok imo, although I missed some episodes on TV. I was shocked when I heard about the live action movie later and saw that Valerian was turned into a rat-faced twink and Laureline was blonde in that one, I didn't even want to see that one just for that.

When Space Dandy was announced and trailers started being posted on Youtube it also vaguely reminded me of the anime but they're actually very different since Valerian et Laureline follow a specific plot while Space Dandy is very episodic. Maybe I should check out the actual comics someday.

I read a lot of French and Belgian comics as a kid but don't remember all the details. I kept reading way more manga than anything else later because they were easier to read in the right order at the library, some American and European comics series were always borrowed by others before I could borrow them so I kinda gave up. Here's what I could recommend based on my vague memories:
>Corto Maltese. Here's my conspiracy theory: Jotaro was probably based on Corto, not just because of the character design but also because Jotaro later gets a PhD related to marine fauna
>Yoko Tsuno was great, I liked the stories taking place on earth more than the ones taking place in space for some reason
>read Spirou if you want, don't even touch le petit Spirou though, it might as well be unrelated, it's trash. Same shit with Titeuf, it's fucking shit for horny teenage boys with a shitty sense of humor
>Lucky Luke is good, the cartoon was also pretty good
>I've heard Martin Mystère is actually a comics before it was adapted into a cartoon, and in that one, Martina and Diana are love interests instead of being siblings, which explains A LOT. I never read that one, I really should just because I'm curious.
>Lou was a cute about a middle school girl and her mom who write novels at first, then it turned into a boring "coming out of age" story that took itself too seriously. As a comparison, imagine if you were reading Azumanga Daioh for the funny jokes and suddenly everyone is starting to question their lives and their future and they get a serious love interest
>Le collège invisible was ok, I read it in middle school. Was a bit too fanservicey sometimes, you'd sometimes think you're reading some shonen shit
>Mélusine is great, read it. You have to, it's iconic.
>I read the two first volumes of Freak Squeele and liked it a lot but it was so popular at the library I couldn't continue reading the next books. Maybe I should buy them someday.
>A bunch of people told me to read Last Man but I'm super confused as to what it is about. It has a cartoon that has a very good reputation too, it's fairly recent.
>I remember when Pink Diary was first released, people called it a "manfra", as in a French manga, which is a really embarrassing name. It was also marketed as drawn and written by the Totally Spies and Martin Mystère character designer. Big mistake because it's not the same vibe AT ALL, half of the character have severe mental issues, it's about high schoolers with love triangles and bullying but none of the funny scenes from your typical shojo manga

No. 190477

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>>190447
Last Man is a sort of imitation of shonen mangas (there's a fighting tournament) made partly by Bastien Vivès, who was the hottest writer/drawer about 10 years ago and who's a big fan of the Street Fighter games. There's a lot of references to fighting games and tournament anime in it with some twists. It's decent if you like action movies and cool moms. It's not to be confused with the brian k vaughan comic Y the last man

My absolutely favorite french comics is De Cape et de Crocs, which is an adventure comic in a world where Molière plays are mixed with Cyrano de Bergerac and about every french de cape et d'épée novels. The heroes are an anthropomorphized wolf and fox (and their kind rabbit companion, Eusèbe), about everyone else is human. Dialogues in it are the best you can find in the medium (poems and bons mots everywhere), which sadly makes it a nearly untranslatable series that requires extensive knowledge of french lit (roughly native french high school level) to be fully appreciated

No. 190481

>>190437
right, sorry! newfag so pls forgive my ignorance.

No. 190509

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I love capeshit as much as the next nerd but I also love that we're kicking this off w/ different comics. As long as we're talking European, let me introduce Beautiful Darkness, one of my favorite horror comics ever. Basically the Borrowers, except (not really a spoiler, it's revealed in the first ten pages, but still) the adorable little pixie people live inside and around the decaying corpse of a little girl. Gets really Lord of the Fliesish.

Not everything they've worked on is this dark, but the art team, Kerascoet (who I think are a husband and wife duo), do amazing work in general. They're such good cartoonists, but also capable of incredible painterly realism.

No. 190563

>>190509
Someone else read it!
It really was one of the best horror stories I've read. It's not even gory, it just showcases the naive cruelty of fairies against the sheer cruelty of nature, but it made me more squeamish than any horror movie ever managed to

No. 190712

>>190563
There's two of us!!! Ugh, yes, there's something purely uneasy about it. What do you think about the human guy who lives in the shack and maybe killed the little girl? I've literally never been able to talk to anyone about this book, so maybe that's me making a crazy assumption, but that's how I've always read it. still not sure what I think about the fact that the dead girl and our lead pixie have the same name

No. 190732

>>190712
nta but i have read it too and honestly the guy in the cottage kind of ruined it for me because i started thinking about him being some pedophile murderer who killed the girl and the story became way too depressing for me

No. 190802

>>190712
>>190732
Yeah that's definitely what I think happened. I mean, her corpse was in the woods for a reason
>>190712
Maybe it's her ghOooOoooOst

No. 191635

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Does anyone else here love a writer so much they trudge through tens of issues of mediocre comics just to get to the part where they start writing? I did this at least twice for Alan Moore (Swamp Thing and WildC.A.T.s )

No. 191638

>>191635
How do you feel about Lost Girls?

No. 191641

>>191638
It had a weird tone to it, mainly because Alan Moore isn't skilled at writing what some would call porn and others erotica, so it felt more like a commentary on erotic stories rather than the well written erotic story I'd have expected

No. 192484

>>191635
lol, yes, also for Swamp Thing. I just couldn't take all…..the…..ellipses….after a while. I think Moore deserves his legend status, but he can get a little high on his own supply, and also cannot write women to save his fucking life. I've always found the "feud" he has w/ Morrison hilarious for that reason tbh, can't they both bond over their inability to write women who aren't weirdly dickmatized

No. 192549

>>192484
Well at least Alan Moore tried to correct his ways with Promethea, while Morrison…

No. 192609

>>192549
lol, yeah. God, Wonder Woman Earth One makes me want to rip my hair out, and I actually love Morrison. I'm a comics retailer, and I literally don't think I've ever sold one copy – the Morrison fans don't bother with it because they know it's a lesser work, and I would rather die than recommend it to a woman.

No. 192895

>>192609
>I'm a comics retailer
Oh yeah? I'm a bit out of touch with the most recent comics, what's selling right now?

No. 192933

>>192895
Depends on the store, of course – for ref, we've worked hard to establish ourselves as a "comics are a medium, not a genre" place, and that's pretty much how people perceive us, though we do definitely sell superhero stuff. Things are still a little slow from covid, so I find myself thinking of "stuff that's been big over the last 2-3 years" rather than "stuff that's big LITERALLY THIS WEEK," but let's see….Harleen, Something is Killing the Children, anything Tom King, shonen biggies like Demon Slayer/My Hero Academia, Invincible (never a guarantee that a show/movie will move comics, but it is here), HoXPoX and some of the ensuing titles, a truly gargantuan number of kids/YA ogns of all genres, the big Image and Vertigo trades (Saga, Sex Crims, WicDiv, Die did pretty well, Sandman, Y). Definitely haven't gotten as many new titles lately in floppies, but we're hoping that'll change. Tbh floppies haven't made up most of our profit in a long time, but I'd like some new series to read. Lots of big titles ended riiiight before covid, and there's still a bit of vacuum.

No. 207589

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This thread is pretty dead but I'll post anyway. I just read a Swedish comic called Nattbarn by Hanna Gustavsson (I don't think there's English translation, but a short film based on it was apparently made in 2017). It's about this awkward 14-year-old girl called Iggy who listens to metal and browses shitty social media sites. I have to say it's really relatable (sadly and embarrassingly also the part that she's a huge fujo coomer and that she gets groomed by some gross old dude - that was me irl like 100%). It sent me straight back to teenage memories and I had a couple hearty keks as well.

Also I love the fact that Iggy and her friend are drawn in such a non-coomery way, it really reflects the awkwardness of being a teenager. Warms my heart.

No. 207604

>>207589
I saw this at the library few months ago, and considered reading it but then I forgot. Thanks for reminding me nonna

No. 207749

>>207589
This sounds kind of cute. Where did you get a copy? Is it available online?

No. 208325

>>207749
Sorry for the late reply, but I actually read it at a local library. At least googling for the images I used in post didn't bring up any online versions.

No. 208677

This might belong in the writing/books threads but oh well. Have any anons tried making their own comics? On my course we have to make one, I have a loose plot but I'm finding it hard to come up with a middle part, I have some what okay characters and a vague idea of an ending. I'm bad at developing stories and this is my first time doing a longer than 5 panel comic but I really like the idea I have and have been wanting to make it for awhile. I can share the plot if any anons want to know more or help me think of stuff

No. 208742

>>208677
Sure what's the number of pages, the plot, and what's happening on each page?

No. 215852

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This guy is so unnecessary to me he feels like such a forced character in what is already a bloated family/group. I don't understand why his creators insisted on pushing Duke as a bat character. If anything he really would have benefited from being his own character but DC and Marvel are allergic to creating new IPs that aren't connected to big names.
I don't even think most of his fans actually read his comics outside of the batfamily webtoon comic which somewhat alters his personality into generic mush even more which is surprising considering his lack of personality and character in the comics.

No. 215854

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>>215852
He's destined to be left out of the batfamily and every time it happens his fans rile up and accuse the writers of being racist.

>>208677
I heard the "Making Comics" book by Scott McCloud is really good for anyone that wants to write comics. I know this is really late but in case anyone else is interested.

No. 220343

I didn't know Tales of the Black Freighter had been competently animated!

No. 220345

>>215852
I dislike the 'Batfamily' as a concept. Anything beyond Robin, Nightwing and Batgirl can get tae fuck. Damian Wayne was a mistake and it was all downhill from there.

No. 226113

>>220345
I like Damien but not as a direct member of the family. And now there's a bajillion of them nobody recognizes and will be used as cannon fodder the next time Joker needs to kill minor characters.

I feel like there's cool stories you can make about Bruce's weird test tube rape baby but just shoving him in a Robin costume only goes so far

No. 226117

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>>190509
omg happy to see i'm not alone! i love french graphic novels, from kerascoet i also recommend 'beauty' and 'satania', both have really gorgeous art and interesting stories.

i've recently also got into the work of timothe le boucher, both 'the days that disappear' and 'the patient' really stuck with me.

have any of you comic nonnies read anything by tillie walden? i LOVE her art and the fact that her stories are almost 100% just female characters lmao

No. 226136

>>215854
This art is so cute! Especially Cassandra in the background.

No. 226500

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I find it hilarious how Morrison claimed to have read feminist literature in order to write wonder woman earth one. I understand that he's trying to bring elements from the golden age, which fail since he's a degen moid. Why couldn't he be normal about her comic? I'm somewhat annoyed that Wondy was supposed to have a all stars comic but it got cancelled since the artist was also the writer and it took way too long as a result.

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>>220345
I agree nonnie, but DC comics have to bend to twitterfags that scream 'x-phobic' and whatever every time they demand something (cough cough, the sad tale of batgirl comics). Daiman should have just been his own character without being related to Bruce and others, but Batman remains to be the only character that carries the DC franchise it seems.

No. 226510

>>226505
Most of Damian's character relies on him being Bruce's son you take that away and you don't have Damian. There are other characters that don't need to be part of the batfam like Duke/the signal, flamebird (batwoman's sidekick), that blue haired girl Snyder introduced. Other characters like the huntress should breakaway and I really hate it when writers push Black Canary into Gotham or pretend like she's part of the batfam.
Not related but why does Barbara have piercings here?
I really don't understand why writers don't put as much effort into other characters the same way they put effort into batman/batfam. I was resistant to read batman comics for a while until I started picking up a few of his classics. It's so much better than other characters.

No. 226516

>>226500
I'm guessing it was libfem literature.
She looks fucking hot on that cover though, too bad a moid drew it

No. 226539

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>>226500
for her golden age version its honestly accurate characterization, the creator of Wonder Woman, William Moulton Marston was a degen moid, really into BDSM and bondage and had a poly relationship with himself, his wife and one of his students, in fact he created wonder woman specifically to "indoctrinate" children, like he believed women were superior to men, because they were "tender, submissive and peace-loving" he also wanted to expose children to his kinks

>One of the purposes of these bondage depictions was to induce eroticism in readers as a part of what he called "sex love training." Through his Wonder Woman comics, he aimed to condition readers to becoming more readily accepting of loving submission to loving authorities rather than being so assertive with their own destructive egos.

>"The only hope for peace is to teach people who are full of pep and unbound force to enjoy being bound… Only when the control of self by others is more pleasant than the unbound assertion of self in human relationships can we hope for a stable, peaceful human society… Giving to others, being controlled by them, submitting to other people cannot possibly be enjoyable without a strong erotic element"
>Physical and mental submission appears again and again throughout Marston's comics work, with Wonder Woman and her criminal opponents frequently being tied up (or otherwise restrained), and her Amazonian sisters engaging in frequent wrestling and bondage play

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>>226539
Also as a mythological/history nerd I hate him even more cause he single handily misinformed almost the entirety of the world(from normies to feminists of all waves) about the Amazons and Ares, The Amazons in the Greek myths were the daughters of ares and he was a devoted and loving father who was always stuck up for the amazons from the other Gods(going as far to Murder a son of Poseidon for the sake of his daughter, even thought that was a huge taboo in Greek society to murder one's kin), The Amazons themselves were pure warriors who fought for the thrill of battle, Marston changed all that, he made Aphrodite the creator of the Amazons and Ares was presented as the main enemy of the Amazonians who wants to destroy them and also portrayed him as a rapist who forced himself on hippolyta(who is his daughter in Greek mythology) and he turned the Amazons from a fierce warrior society into his personal bondage fetish society

No. 226559

>>226516
Most likely since Morrison is now a themlet which doesn't surprise me. I wish he stuck as this weird guy that didn't care about gender and clearly was on a ton of drugs

No. 226566

>>226539
Marston sounds like such an outlier how was he allowed to write comics?
I'm unfortunately aware of the highly questionable stuff in golden age wonder woman
I feel like female characters in comics aren't allowed to exist to be cool or have interesting stories they're created with a ton of agenda in mind or as derivates.
>>226551
I don't think it's necessary a bad thing to change some aspects of mythology for a comic book but Ares being the big bad guy is to be expected but was Martson the reason why Ares is thought of as automatically evil?
If not Ares then he probably would have chosen Hades.

No. 226567

>>226551
>single handedly misinformed almost the entirety of the world
Yeah I don't think almost the entire population of the world gives a shit about Wonder Woman's take on Greek mythology.
Anyway the way he tries to philosophically pathologize his stupid fetish just makes me think that a lot of male philosophers and "thinkers" literally just were trying to excuse some kind of fetish. It isn't that deep, Marston!

No. 226591

>>226551
Ares is the most boring god of the entire greek pantheon. His two biggest achievements were being caught having sex with Aphrodite and killing Halirrhothius. He probably caught that guy by surprise because he's not even a good fighter, as during the Trojan War a mere mortal wounds him (a god) so bad he has to run away. He tried to attack Athena later and got knocked out in a single strike as she hit him with a rock, making him perhaps the only male character of the entire mythology ever defeated by a woman in physical combat. Choosing to be as close to the original characterization as possible would have been a massive mistake for the writers

No. 226644

>>226591
I like Marvel's take on Ares, where he's this posturing, sexist lout who spends most of his time moping over not being as strong or well liked by the other gods as Hercules, but at the same time, he's a really loving dad to his son Phobos, even if he struggles to connect with him from time to time.

No. 226995

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>>226591
those myths are all from Athenians, in all versions of Athenian myths Ares is portrayed as Cowardly. Uncivilized and Brutish. however he was the main god for other Greek city states(such as the Spartans) however we only have mostly the Athenian versions of Greek myths and that is now the main source, with other greek city states only having fragmentary sources of their myhts

No. 227070

>>226995
>he was the main god for other Greek city states(such as the Spartans)
He wasn't, what's your source?
In regard to your pic I'll state right now that whatever statement made on Spartan women only concern the 5 to 10% of women that were citizens, the status of all others is unknown, but helot women, who were the majority of the women, were probably treated worse than cattle

No. 232825

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thoughts on Jaime Hernandez?

No. 232830

>>232825
I love love and rockets although I haven't been keeping up with his new work. Hopey is a great character

also his linework is just super appealing

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No. 250183

Bumpbumpbum

Ok, so I was never much into Spidey comics but decided to give it a try with Nick Spencer run. It was solid shit and I loved it, but recent comics by Wells is a steaming pile of shit and vomit. Like it so bad, from writing to art to all that fuckery with MJ, it so awful. What's wrong with Spider-man? It's Marvel flagship comic series but it has such a streak of mid to bad comics. With Batman, you usually have some solid talent working on it at any time, but Marvel it seems doesn't give a fuck about its most popular hero. Slott's run seems to be not very popular, 90s stuff aged very poorly, there is no much gopd minis. Can some spiderfags redpill me on the state of his books?

No. 250185

>>250183
>What's wrong with Spider-man?
the fact he hasn't been allowed to mature or grow as a characters for 50 years now, he's perpetually in his early 20's, struggling with rent and a bachelor, the 616 status quo kills any potential he can have

No. 250189

>>250185
I like Peter growing as a character but I don't like MJ and don't want Peter marrying her. I know, I know my take is retarded. But she is just so fucking boring, even Lois and Iris are more compelling and interesting as non-super love interests.

No. 250206

>>250189
either way I just him to be anything other then a finically struggling 20-something

No. 250208

>>250185
>tfw no boomer spiderman living in the suburbs and complaining about the passing of rent control laws

No. 250214

>>250185
Isn't a big appeal of Spider-Man is the fact he is a young and kinda down on his luck superhero? Where he should grow past that? I feel like he would not be the same.

No. 250282

>>250214
Reading the same types of stories over and over again is boring especially with the same character. Comic book characters should evolve in fact the most memorable and iconic ones do since they end up with a variety of different themes and are very complex.

No. 250293

>>232825
Late but I'll answer. The art and writing is great but at the same time scrotish, if that makes sense. Same comment for his brother's writing. Rather amazing how they're some of the best-written comic ladies to me but at the same time I can tell they were written by guys kek. I am a fan, though. Typical problem in comics really.

No. 250294

>>250189
I agree with you about MJ and have never figured out who I'd want Peter to be with tbh

No. 250302

>>250282
I feel like Peter should mature as a character and maybe settle down and have a family and become a mentor for other spider characters. Kinda like Barry for Wally and other Wally. Besides, we have Miles right there who can be a young Spider-man. I honestly don't know why Marvel execs want to keep the status quo, since people who watch movies with high-school Spidie don't read comics and comic readers are already sick with this bullshit.
>>250294
I shipped him with Felicia kek (and Daredevil kek).

No. 250310

>>250302
ayrt Yeah I remember liking him with Black Cat and also that scientist woman he found annoying from the 90s cartoon. When I think about it now she looks like Felicia just with huge glasses. Daredevil sounds pretty interesting too tbh

No. 250328

>>250302
They did have peter grow up and get married, and comic readers hated it. He then sacrificed his marriage to the devil

No. 250421

>>250328
Fans are ok with that, it's the marvel editorial who hates Peter and MJ being together.

No. 250823

>>250302
I thought the entire economic model of american comics was precisely based on not making the characters grow up (unlike manga)

No. 252622

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Crush v Lobo was such a mixed bag for me. I loved the art style, but certain parts of the story felt "twitter-ry"for me, especially that one scene of Crush at the comedy club. Ending felt a bit flat for me.

No. 252739

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>>220345
Late as fuck but HARD agree. I am so disillusioned by the big 2 comics companies now in part because of shit like this. I'm a big Red Hood fan (or rather, a fan of his potential) but the fact he is just stuck to the 'bat family', as well as shitty writers cripples him as a character. IMO he should be an ANTAGONIST they haven't earned his character progression.

Some of my other issues with big 2 is the fucking movie tie-ins and constant fucking retcons. Moon Knight right now is being DESTROYED by his crossover events and current runs. Moon Knight vs the Avengers bastardised his character and ruins his tradition of having mostly sparing crossovers. On retcons, I cant blame new fans for being intimidated by big 2, they're fucking shit shows. It's not that I think we should never retcon…but it is frustrating as fuck to watch great stories be ruined by lesser writers, character progression and deaths are always reversed, the only variable is if it'll happen in 2 weeks or 2 years.

Anywho, I've taken a break from big 2 and started reading more indie comic, Love and Rockets albeit a bit coomer is great, I wanna get the anniversary edition but its like more than 400 AU

No. 252744

>>252739
I loved that comic series as a young teenager. Especially the separate Luba book.

No. 252746

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>>250328
>>220345

Fans were def not the ones that pushed for it, it's the most hated spider-man storyline ever.
> I'm a big Red Hood fan (or rather, a fan of his potential) but the fact he is just stuck to the 'bat family', as well as shitty writers cripples him as a character. IMO he should be an ANTAGONIST they haven't earned his character progression.
It's so weird to see DC pandering to Red Hood fangirls and not the fanboys especially with that batfamily webtoon. I totally agree with you I wish he had stayed as an antagonist for a bit, he works best as that anyway.
I don't mind batfamily or the concept of a superhero family like the superfamily, wonder family, arrow family but it just has to be done in a good way with interesting characters that bounce off of each other it's the reason I like Damian because his of his relationship with Dick Grayson you can't have that with the other Robins it won't be the same
But I'm tired of the bajillion new characters they introduce it's clear that most fans don't really care about and makes it hard to have stories with high stakes because there's no way that editorial will allow any of them to die since each character has die-hard fans.

No. 252748

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Does anyone else remember this book series?

No. 252757

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>>190380
Cant's into superhero stuff so I ignore the related comics and movies

Currently reading We only find them when they are Dead, We ride Titans, Once and Future and Kill Lock. All pretty damn good. Once and Future is maybe a bit trashy, but the art is top tier, I find skeletons and armors hot and the premise of an evil racist King Arthur that comes back as a lich to turn reality into his own story (and get rid of all Anglo-Saxons) is hilarious.

A huge fan of We only find them when they are Dead (has everything I love, a great, artsy look, space mysticism, tons of mysteries, politics, beautiful color schemes and even a gay character and his god husbando) and Kill Lock (love dark stories about alien robots and one of them is a fucking templar that talks in German font).
Sadly these types of series are too niche so I never find anybody to talk about it. But if you like uncommon narratives and bizarre art styles you should give them a try.

No. 253225

>>250293
i feel the same way. i don't even bother with gilbert's stuff because the way he draws women is so grotesque. locas has been a great inspiration to me in terms of its art style, and i like the characters for the most part, but certain arcs were just terrible, like when maggie got basically kidnapped by some random dude twice her age in penny's mansion and then "seduced" him and almost ran away with him or when hopey fucked tex and got pregnant with his child and then miscarried. what the hell was up with that

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RIP Aline Kominsky-Crumb

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what are some good Wonder woman stories written by women ?

No. 265781

>>264544
Wondering doesn't have much good and acclaimed runs except Rucka and Wolfman, so I don't know of the rest is any good. Although Gail Simone wrote some of the books, and she is pretty solid author, although I don't see her stuff on any top stories ever lists, so idk. Also Wilson (of Ms. Marvel fame) wrote WW through 2018 and then some, so check this out top. Not sure if it's any good, but her Ms. Marvel surely was great.
Also Alex de Campi (a very prolific female writer, who amongst other wrote Bad Girls) also did a very short run on WW.
But in all seriousness, WW is generally pretty meh, outside of Rucka and Wolfman (and the later is not liked by all anyway, although I think his run is kino), so you better find some good stories somewhere else.

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>>265781
I didn’t know how to break it to the anon that WW doesn’t have a lot of good stories in the first place let alone good stories written by women.
There’s Wonder Woman Earth: Historia by Kelly Sue DeConnick (she made Carol Captain Marvel) I didn’t check it out and haven’t heard anything about it.
Wonder Girl by Joëlle Jones was interesting because but idk if you’d be interested in it.

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the new wonder girl/yara Flor takes place outside of the Greek Amazons since she’s Brazilian

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what a slut

No. 288359

>>265781
>Although Gail Simone wrote some of the books, and she is pretty solid author, although I don't see her stuff on any top stories ever lists
I disagree. I feel like I see her arcs included in best of lists pretty regularly.
>>264544
The Circle by Gail Simone. (Her whole run actually)
Wonder Woman The True Amazon by Jill Thompson.
I'm about to pick up and read the Becky Cloonan run, actually. I've been seeing it around and finally thought it looked interesting enough to get into (right as it's ending, ain't that always the way.)

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>>264544
OT but Wonder Women has always been fascinating to me, She's literally one guys fetish(incorporated with his obvious bondage fetish and his pseudointellectuals views of society) WW as a concept should not work but due to to circumstances she's been pushed as feminist heroine for all women and feminists themselves essentially appropriated her and made her a symbol of women's empowerment.

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I finished reading this comic series called Les Nombrils (The Bellybuttons in english). To give it a good summary, it's about a girl in a toxic friendship (also kind of a satire of high school movies). It goes as you'd expect, but takes some interesting turns at the end. Only problem is how the writing of the women sometimes feels 'scrotish'

No. 294767

>>294759
I forgot it exists, I read some of the books in middle or high school. How does the story end?

No. 294783

>>294759
it was funny when it was just a slice ofnlife about girls being mean but it ended up being totally ridiculous with the attempted murder and the guy secretly being a homicidal sociopath or some bullshit. like that was totally out of left field

No. 294916

>>294767
I think Vicky falls in love with another girl, but because she was in denial, the girl Vicky likes moves on, there's a guy who attempts murder, and this one guy accuses Karine of framing him for getting arrested for weed possession, except that she was actually the person who accidentally put weed in his car. The only person who realizes Karine was guilty was Albin, but he decides to keep it a secret and Karine doesn't suffer any consequences its surprisingly intense

No. 294918

>>294916
Huh? Why do silly comedic French comics I was into in middle school always turn into super serious shit like this at some point? Reminds me of Lou and how it was just about a teenage girl and her single in silly, funny scenes and then it got dramatic for no reason very suddenly.

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I happened upon Naughty Bits by Roberta Gregory and I'm very surprised I haven't heard about it earlier. The first issue has women biting off a man's dick and shitting on his head because he was defending Crumb, and there's a very negative character (Midge) whose inner dialogue made me feel much less guilty about my everyday thoughts. This was written in the 90s-00s but basically nothing changed, huge recommendation from me

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>>300373
Looked up the author .
>Gregory was born in Los Angeles, California, to Disney comics writer and artist Bob Gregory.[9][6]
>In 1971, she began college at California State University, Long Beach, where she was exposed to the feminist movement and comic influences such as Nanny Goat Productions members Joyce Farmer and Lyn Chevli. She contributed to her college humor paper until 1974, when she began her own Feminist Funnies.[6]
>She moved to Seattle, Washington in 1989, where she resides to this day with her long-term partner, author Bruce B. Taylor. Though she chooses not to use labels with regards to her sexuality, Gregory is a long time participant in bisexual newsletter North Bi Northwest and other LGBTQ organizations.[19]
so nepobaby and a spicy straight.
>The first issue has women biting off a man's dick and shitting on his head because he was defending Crumb
you could have mentioned this part as well, If someone told me this was some moid's femdom fetish comic I would believe it.

No. 300410

>>300375
>nepobaby
She's more famous than her dad and became successful on her own, but I commend the effort on trying to shit on an indie author who did more for feminism than you ever will

No. 300444

>>300410
Nonna I half read the first issue of her comic, she goes to whole food gets mad at the price, we see a full page of her masturbating and then responding to a "back page ad" then doing on a date and then fucking an ugly manlet, how is that "feminism"?

No. 300519

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this comic was kinda mediocre in story but the MC stuck with me for years. She's like the archetypal goth in my head

https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Clubbing

No. 300525

>>300444
> we see a full page of her masturbating
i didn't realize women masturbating and depicting it is somehow antifeminist, holy shit lol

No. 300536

>>300525
Nta but:
> Anon says: masturbation isn't feminist.
> You: Are you saying masturbation is antifeminist?
It's not either or, don't be purposefully obtuse just because you enjoy the comics, retard.

No. 300621

>>300536
i have never heard of this woman and her comics before this thread. there is multiple people posting on this site you fucking schizophrenic

No. 301186

I forgot about comics for a while but now I feel like going on a binge read of all the goodies! Gonna read the classics, cause I've already forgot the plot of most of them. Starting with Vertigo titles, primary Y:The Last Man and The Preacher. Than so.e Punisher MAX. I just love me some Ennis lol. Than I gonna move on to Image stuff. Any good recs of the recent stuff? Preferably completed.
Also, dunno about what nonnies love here (I see some euro comics and indies), but do you feel like you can't be bothered to read capes? I follow some ongoing here and there (FF and Moon Knight is so good) but otherwise keeping up with what's going on in Marvel and DC is so tiresome. I don't buy comics but still even if I'm reading it for free, I can't be bothered with following multiple events and crossovers. And I say it as someone who loves capes. But now I'm indie only.

No. 301187

I forgot about comics for a while but now I feel like going on a binge read of all the goodies! Gonna read the classics, cause I've already forgot the plot of most of them. Starting with Vertigo titles, primary Y:The Last Man and The Preacher. Than so.e Punisher MAX. I just love me some Ennis lol. Than I gonna move on to Image stuff. Any good recs of the recent stuff? Preferably completed.
Also, dunno about what nonnies love here (I see some euro comics and indies), but do you feel like you can't be bothered to read capes? I follow some ongoing here and there (FF and Moon Knight is so good) but otherwise keeping up with what's going on in Marvel and DC is so tiresome. I don't buy comics but still even if I'm reading it for free, I can't be bothered with following multiple events and crossovers. And I say it as someone who loves capes. But now I'm indie only.

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Can anyone recommend something similar to The Eternaut and Mort Cinder? I want read more B&W comics and those two were sooo good.
I already read 2000AD classics like Judge Dredd and Rogue Trouper on top of that. Just love how crisp and pretty the inks are, so if there is a digital HD version somewhere out there, it's a big plus too.

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I've been into comics for a while, mostly non capeshit stuff. I tend to read a lot of autobiographical graphic novels and fantasy stories (IHF,SAGA,ETC). I actually started off very intimidated by western comics because I didn't know where the hell to start. I started off with Scott Pilgrim then eventually I fell way into anything by Brain Lee O'malley. Because I loved Scott Pilgrim so much I ended up finding "Snotgirl" and all of the sudden I was exploring the western side of the comic book store anytime I had the chance. Through the DCAU I am now captivated by DC lore so I've been trying to get into reading the actual comics. So I picked up and started reading the Batman and Robin floppies and Batman;City of Madness and I am so genuinely excited about getting further into these comics. I am wondering about what I should read next and if anyone else was reading the same stuff as me. Getting into western comics after avoiding them in favor of manga for so long makes me really regret it because theres so much stuff I like. I wonder how comics could be made more approachable for people who've never read them…Maybe if there was like, a shounen jump magazine but for comics?

No. 328380

>>327938
Well, I started reading comics with IDW Transformers. All Hail Megatron was my first one. Before that, I had Scrouge McDuck comics as a 6 yo and sometimes I've got Spider Man comics from magazine stands. But my hobby started with Transformers and Star Wars EU comics. I mostly read it for the source material (duh, I liked SW and Transformers) but with time started appreciating comics as a medium.
Personally I read a lot of capeshit but I never was capeshit first reader if it makes sense. To this day I can't say I'm such an expert on Marvel or DC. Especially DC. I don't like Batman and ESPECIALLY Batfamily and it's like the biggest draw for people when it comes to DC. I think I really dig Wonder Woman but her line of comics is such a mixed bag. It's hard to be a fan of Diana cause we have like a dozen of runs that are so radically different it's almost weird.
With Marvel, I love a lot of their stuff. But I never was big fan of Spider Man or X-Men or Venom or whatever their biggest character is.
So yeah, I'm that person who is far more into comics than your average "I've read Watchemen, am I cool guys?" person but I lack more in depth knowledge of capeshit to be a true fan. Weird.
Indies are great at least. I can't see why people shit on comics when there are so much cool stuff released each week. I always have shit to read with all the back issues and new goodies coming out. Personally my favorite writers are Ed Brubaker and Jeff Lemire. Love me some crime/noir comics and Lemire is just perfect in every way. I was absolutely hooked with his Sweet Tooth and after that I read all his stuff. I actually consider him to be one of the top 3 American writers of this era of comics. Really.

No. 328381

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>>327775
Pic somewhat related, I keked so much

No. 328923

>>328380
Anon I feel the exact same way about wonder woman! I love everything about her as a concept but getting into her comics is weird! I wonder why DC has such a hard time with Wonder woman considering that she's in the trinity. I think the Bat family is a bit bloated tbh. I love indie stuff too, I've been trying to get into the stuff that came out during the 1960s "Comix" era to build more appreciation for comics as a medium. I think the reason people have so much contempt for western comics is because manga massively overshadows it but also the art styles and stuff in manga are more uniform and easy to dive into. There's also anime that promotes manga quite easily. So when people try to get into western comics they find it to be a challenge. Its sad because its not like there are only the big comic companies like people assume. There's Slave Labor Graphics, Boom, Oni. They just arent given a chance unless they're promoted a ton.

No. 328937

>>328923
Wondie truly peaked with Perez. Now everyone tries outdo it and invent new cool thing for her. I'm looking at Tom King's fresh run and silently shaking my head. Another brand new "you never saw Diana like that before!" garbage. And now with more signature King's musings about mental health! Barf.
And I absolutely hate this "manga vs comics" debate. If you want easy experience reading comics, just go with indies. Saga starts with issue one and goes straight from there. You don't need a convoluted reading order for that. But people still whine about "b-but muh mangoes!". STFU. It's all PR really. Comics were huge years ago, now they are not cool and anime is the next big thing. People would just read what is popular. It's the same with people complaining about AAA games being terrible but they will never give a good indie a chance. Why? Because all the cool kids play new Assasin's Creed and nobody plays fucking Project Zomboid even though the later is far more unique and imaginative.
So with comics people don't read them because nobody they know reads comics. Look at this very board. Nonnas would rather read some isekai villianess otome gaiden moe whatever webcomic that makes my head hurt. Don't take me wrong, I love manga. I don't dunk on people who love manga. But you get the idea.
Honestly I don't feel bad that my hobby is less popular. Maybe one day time will come and the readers will notice that American comics have a lot of great stories to tell that they were skipping for some reason. For now I just hope that the industry will stay afloat.
Also idk but I also always preferred comics more realistic art style over manga (even though some really great manga has some kick ass art).

No. 328940

>>328937
Yeah! Thats what I always say, read indies thats how i started myself! Its so easy but its almost like people cant even see indies or something, Like theyre invisible. My friend keeps saying "Idk where to start…Oh its hard" But then their looking at like superhero comics with legacy characters. I show them the indie stuff and theyre suprised by how easy it is to keep up with! I dont think manga is better, manga can be extremely predictable and I genuinely think western comics tend to be better when it comes to writing I just think western comics arent promoted well at all and are slandered all too often by self loathing westerners.

No. 328979

>>327775
>>328381
Dick Grayson as Nightwing is still my Batman crush, even 20 years later.

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Ive been reading blacksad. The artstyle is so gorgeous. It maintains the look of fluid, natural movement, even with the amount of detail it has. I like John Blacksad`s character so far.

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Is the comic book industry hard to get into? I'm trying my best to improve my art. I'm going to go to comic con and show my portfolio but I'm scared because my art has a lot of anime influence and that seems to be avoided by companies like DC and Marvel…I'm trying to find a more acceptable artstyle because DC is my dream company,I really want to work there. I wish there was a thread kind of like the "Western animation cows" thread for the comic book industry because it's seems so shrouded in mystery. Has anyone here worked in Comic books before themselves or is anyone also working on trying to break into comics.

No. 332475

>>331574
I am not in the industry, but most popular western artists out there have some anime influence, so I imagine they are not as strict as they used to be. How close is your artstyle to anime?

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should i watch these if i kinda hate comics these days? used to be really into comics but they tend to annoy me now.

No. 333145

>>333136
Despite not really into capeshit, the Spider-Verse movies are absolutely great to watch especially the visuals.

No. 333148

>>333145
cool! thanks

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>>332475
I'm pretty Trigger influenced, the best example I could give is that I'm like a mix of Par0llel and Gerph and Kill la Kill? It's animu inspired but also toony. It's in a weird phase right now because I've been trying to get a more realistic look.

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Anyone hear read "Laura Dean Keeps Breaking up with me" I ended up really enjoying it and want to pick up more comics like it. There were a few cringe moments but outside of the few there were it was good. I thought because Mariko Tamaki was writing it'd be bad because of the whole "I am not starfire" thing she wrote. I was shocked to find she could actually write decent characters.

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>>334605
>I thought because Mariko Tamaki was writing it'd be bad because of the whole "I am not starfire" thing she wrote.

Geez nonnie, don't let pissboy DC moids color your narrative of this woman. Tamaki has been writing for comics before the Starfire controversy like picrel

No. 335147

>>335144
I am not starfire did suck though

No. 339329

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I feel as though the comic industry in america is run by absolute retards and it depresses me. Do you guys ever feel this way? Like we're always getting spooked with articles about the western comic market dying and about how the future of comic books is shaky and unsure…but to me it feels like the answer for western comics is very clear, like anyone with the ability to think would understand what needs to be done. I feel like I'm being driven insane, I know I'm being autistic but I was just talking to my friend about this and i am still pressed! She says the only entrance into comics is the movies and its hard to get into those now because the story has gone so far. I think live action movies are fine but have such a disgusting same-y feel with the same tired CGI, it's slowly turning people off and less people are going out of their way to see them. In my opinion comics should go the manga>anime route and attempt to mimic that pipeline, it works great for japanese comics I'm sure it'd work well for american comics too. I'm talking specifically about capeshit stuff, not indie works. Im just venting. What would you do to improve comic sales,anons?

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What the hell is up with Antarctic press? Is it where untalented artists have to go or something. Everything in their catalog looks like unreadable tripe. I was at my local comic book shop and ran into "Ninja High School" and it looked so strange. I thought it was just some odd local comic but I looked it up online and their catalog is kind of hilarious. Are they worth reading or are they as much of a joke as I perceive them to be?

No. 339682

>>339329
Self contained stories. I'm tired of multiverse bullshit. I know comics already had that where-do-I-start-problem but I think multiverse movies just made it worse. It was fine when spiderman made an appearence in the x men, or when captain america met magneto and you know the drill, that was interesting and fun and they eventually go back to their city/universe to deal with their own problems, but now it's just too much, everyone exists in the same universe at the same time and everything happens at once, and every hero has to be impacted by whatever monster of the week is threatening the universe. It's overwhelming and even then, it still feels like it's the same stories over and over even when they try to overcomplicate things. It lost its soul, it isn't fun anymore, everything is too serious and the twists are old. And why do the writers think story end = death of the hero? I don't wanna see Peter Parker die, I just want to join an interesting adventure and see a satisfying ending.
Also they should stop the performative woke stuff in the comics, these people cancelling others on twitter are not reading comics. I'd love more gay/lesbian characters or black characters and more females but we can see the performative crap from miles, all while they ignore characters that fit the bill one way or another… "what if wally west was black and wolverine was gay and jon kent was bi"… perhaps get the black/gay/female heroes/villains that already exist and write them something new without trying to pander to a very specific demographic that doesn't care about comics? I don't want iconic characters changed but wouldn't mind to see new stories of old characters no one remembers anymore but it's a challange to these writers to give us something without making it all about the fact the character is gay/black/female, it's like they forget it's capeshit if the character is anything but a white straight man kek
Sorry for the rant, but it just makes me so angry how bad comics and capeshit movies are these days and it's the reason I don't touch superhero comics anymore, plus the art sucks and they write comics based on the movies now and it's insane to me

No. 339687

>>339663
AP is a weeaboo/furry publisher from like the 80s-90s, I think it’s one of those Jimmy Choo things where someone’s family is wealthy enough that their offspring can do whatever they want and they decided to make a comic book company

No. 339704

>>334602
OP is this your art? I love it

No. 339705

>>339682
I see this in non-capeshit too, it's apparently so hard to make an original character or someone interesting. It's like meta-racist, only white straight males can be interesting and layered and everyone else is a walking checklist. Even the progressives believe this.

I think adult animations would be a better route for comic adaptions.

No. 339711

>>339705
I agree, adult animation is the way to go especially since adult animation is booming right now! Invincible is killing it for a reason. Also you ever notice that when making a minority character they stack a bunch of other shit on top like "A black character,better make her plus sized and an autist" as though its to hit a certain quota or something.

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>>339687
Oh to be a mysteriously wealthy furry, thats the dream

No. 340645

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I actually really like the new Batman '89 issue.

No. 342630

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Shoutout to the nona who introducrd me to The Eltingville Club in the "help me find" thread i was the one who posted the pic to get the name. I'm reading the first issue and I encourage other nonas to do the same, it's pretty good. I have this theory that Josh has schizophrenia.

No. 342631

>>342630
>zoomer tiktoks refugees find EC
>they start diagnosing the characters from a fucking parody comic
why are zoomers like this oh my fucking god

No. 342632

>>342631
Can you not be a faggot, nona? I'm legit starting to notice Josh has a reoccurring theme of talking to TVs. Better yet, in a later issue him and Bill both have an actual conversation with a TV host through the screen, and Bill and Josh are the only two characters who have glasses. I might genuinely be onto something here, so go humblebrag about being a millenial another time please

No. 342633

>>342632
You are a fucking retard. The only reason why you are diagnosing the characters its because 99% of the jokes of the comic are obscure 90s pop culture references your retarded zoomer pea brain cant understand.

No. 342637

>>342633
I literally understand 90% of the references, not everyone you dislike was born after 2003. Let me guess, you think references to shit like Xena or Soylent Green tooootally flew over my head because you're probably the one and only person in this entire thread to know about them? You act like you're special for being into a supposedly niche comic when really you're a dumb cunt who doesn't realize EC isn't nearly as underground as you think, and even less so with the ponytail man meme that just emerged and is directing thousands of people to the comic, cry about it.

Anon's insufferableness aside:
>Josh hears the TV say his name during the Twilight Zone marathon
>could've been him tweakig from the pills but then…
>a later chapter has him conversing with a TV show host across the screen
>Bill does the same at the same time
>only thing they have in common is glasses
>Pete and Jerry don't have eyes as detailed
>Pete has little dots for eyes and Jerry mostly closes his
>notice how Bill and Josh always set shit off and lead to the stories'climaxes
>Bill literally converted the two Mandom guys back into fandom and Josh got a mall cop to release him without consequence despite tearing apart 42 packs of Wonderbread
>my guess is that those to in fact have some sort of powers, either that or there's paranormal shit or they're crazy
>my guess is a Fanboy and ChumChum situation where the geeky boys eventually get powers, whether or not they realize
>literally could be a reference to a work of fiction in itself if the theory leads anywhere as a cool easter egg

No. 342638

>>342637
pure retardation that can easily be discredit, but it's useless to do so since you are dead set on your stupid headcanons because you dont understand the comic at its core. It's literally not that deep, why cant you appreaciate a fun comic? the comic is abundant with good qualities, but you seem dead set on your inaccurate headcanons, which can only come from someone that has 0 reading comprehension.

No. 342639

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>>342638
Because theories are now "headcanons", and the bitch calls ME a tiktok zoomer… But nah you're right, making theories of fictional works, what's gotten into me! It's not like it's part of fandom or anything…
>reeee can't you appreciate a fun comic
As if my theory somehow erases the jokes or makes them hit any different. It's just baffling that you can act so elitist about EC when you act exactly like the people it makes fun of.
Adding picrel for shits and giggles, hope you won't sperg out about that too

No. 342640

>>342639
>proud twitterfaggot
jesus what has this board turned into. Your headcanons are annoying because they are literally easily disproved shit that you are trying to claim are true. You are on the same level as retards with tranny headcanons.

No. 342641

>>342640
Bitch, everyone on here has Twitter, how the fuck do you think we get screencaps of cows' blogs? Doesn't make any of us twitterfags or trannies.
>trying to claim is true
You do realize theories are hypothetical, and that's why they're called theories, right? I'm literally a new EC reader who's getting giddy thinking of what the issue could turn into next, sharing my thoughts on a board, only for some bitter sow to regurgitate the starterpack of gatekeeper slogans. My only actual headcanon about Josh that I refuse to let anyone deny is that you're literally him.

Oh my fucking god I just realized the meme DID in fact make you sperg kek

No. 342642

>>342641
>Bitch, everyone on here has Twitter
speak for yourself, i dont.

No. 342644

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>>342641
Also, it's a comic by nerds for nerds. It's not the big bang theory. The fact you are so retarded you cant understand a simple comic layout is also very concerning, because in no fucking panel is josh talking to a tv. He's talking to the host on the phone.

No. 342645

>>342644
Kek the nerve of you calling me the retard. Fyi, it's impossible for Bill and Josh to be calling a host with their computers in the year the comic is set in, the signal would be too dogshit. Reminder that it's an era where Josh had his computer crash trying to download porn and the club uses VHSes. We see them cosplaying TWD in the next issue, which would mean they're at least in 2003, and if that's the case, then it's impossible that the host was able to keep the signal intact while running off to a different set (with the teddy bears). You're probably thinking:
>but a comic is supposed to be unrealistic
Which is why I'm speculating about a secret tv-brainwave power theory, because yes people are allowed to have theories.
>it's a comic by nerds for nerds, not the big bang theory
You acting as if I haven't been in the scene for over two decades doesn't make you look cool, it just makes you look like a massive NLOG. But the worst part is that you haven't read the comic, because
>in no fucking panel is josh talking to a tv
He literally hears it say his name when he gets high with the boys during the marathon… Istg you watched the animated pilot once and decided to LARP as the characters. Let us know how the eventual titchop goes.

No. 342646

>>342645
i dont know if you are trying to be le quirky schizo theorist ecksdee at this point, or genuinely this stupid. It's concerning that you are so attention deprived and retarded. I hope you eventually dopamine detox and go back to enjoying the simple things in life, like a cozy funny comic about retarded nerds when being a nerd was actually fun.(infighting)

No. 342648

>>342646
>It's concerning that you are so attention deprived and retarded.
The projection kek. At least my goal was to share something and not just impose myself the way you did.
>go back to enjoying the simple things in life, like a cozy funny comic about retarded nerds when being a nerd was actually fun.
I was until a bitter bitchlet got assblasted. Gonna go back to it and link my friends the comic since unlike certain people, I don't act like an entitled toddler about fiction I like and don't lose it when people don't consume it the exact way I do.
can't wait to get virtually george floyd'ed by jannies for defending myself(infighting retard)

No. 342649

>>342648
you cant even read lmao

No. 342685

kek it's like watching Josh and Bill fight ITT

No. 342728

>>342630
just finished reading this last night and it was really ahead of it's time. I even saw my younger self there at times and why I eventually left geek internet spaces. Shorty but enjoyable read.

No. 342730

>>342632
you used to be able to call and order stuff through the TV. You are peak zoomer

No. 342733

>>342637
did you not grow up with shopping channels or having family buy stuff through them?

No. 342743

>>342730
>>342733
Actually read the posts please. Read the part where that's acknowledged and the part about signal and the host switching sets. Not everyone you disagree with is a teen

No. 342753

>>342685
Samefagging to >>342743 and my other spergings but

>"Shit post, sage that shit next time"

>"I DID sage, fatass. Are you high off your mom's stash or something?"
>"Shut the fuck up Bill, you're not the only one who can trace IP adresses. You think you're hot shit?"
>"Are you done being a mini-modding faggot, Josh?"
>"You're the only one who cares about this lesbo website's rules!"
>janny bans them both because they're moids
>they beat each-other up the following day

No. 342775

>>342743
do you even read the comic? can you explain this panel >>342644

No. 342781

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>>342775
Are you fucking serious? That panel is literally from the first issue. How about you explain picrel, anon? No checking. Make me laugh.

No. 342783

genuinely can't tell what anons are arguing about ITT

No. 342785

>>342638
>you dont understand the comic at its core
nta but why do you hate the idea of people riffing off of the canon material? isn't half the fun of a story thinking about alternate ways of looking at it and coming up with theories? you sound like such an autistic killjoy.

No. 342789

>>342781
>cant explain the joke
but you said you understood the jokes and references anon

No. 342793

>>342785
> isn't half the fun of a story thinking about alternate ways of looking at it and coming up with theories?
no, what the fuck. is this how zoomers think? her theory is extremely retarded because it's only based on her lack of reading comprehension, just like all mento illnes/sexuality theories are.

No. 342796

>>342789
What, that they say Space Ghost is made to look stupid when really the people he hosts look stupid talking to an animated character?

>>342793
Can you tell us when a sexuality theory was made? Better yet, how the theory is sooooo totally bad and wrong? Theories about fanworks were always a thing. Just because you entered the scene in 2020 and your only reference of other fans are tiktok zoomers doesn't mean that everyone is like that. I bet you were one of those people who saw MatPat upload theories back in 2012 and sperged in comments about how it's toootally weird and bad. Oh wait, clearly not since you have the mentality of someone who just recently decided to get into pop culture. Get real and realize there's an in-between to people who mindlessly read a comic and tumblrinas who treat it like the South Park fandom.

No. 342797

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>>342796
>What, that they say Space Ghost is made to look stupid when really the people he hosts look stupid talking to an animated character?
god, you are so retarded. And you were being so smug over getting all the jokes.

No. 342799

>>342783
Kekk me neither but I like that the thread is alive

No. 342800

>>342793
Samefag but…
>Josh thinks a TV talks to him, thinks God and the entire world are against him, makes elaborate plans to get back at everyone who wronged him 10 years later
>"Haha he's totally schizophrenic, what a crazy boy, damn so unhinged"
Enter anon
>"URGH those fucking ZOOMERS and how they FETISHIZE MENTAL ILLNESS with their fucking HEADCANONS REEE"

No. 342802

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>>342797
>clearly stated I understood most, not all
>even stated it as 90% (but hey I'M the one who can't read apparently)
Mfw i will never be an expert on a cartoon that aired from like the 90s to early 2000s. You are SO special and quirky and not like other girls anon, and you absolutely don't look pathetic for being elitist about a cartoon nobody gives a fuck about. You're truly super deep and intelligent!
>still incapable of explaining the panel I posted
You're not a clown, you're the whole circus. You'd fit right in the EC if you weren't a woman.
Reposted to include picrel, since anon conveniently dodged it

No. 342804

>>342796
>>342802
>acts smug about something she just found out through tiktok
>pretends to understand 99% of the jokes
>cant understand one of the simplest jokes in the book
>her lack of reading comprehension leaks through every single one of her posts
>dead set on a retarded theory that's easily disproven by just reading the fucking comic
>seethes when called out, like all zoomies do when older fans tell them to integrate and stop being retarded
>muh ''ur just a killjoy wah wah''
>meanwhile explodes in anger when someone proves her thery wrong, refuses to accept her theory is retarded and that she needs to learn how to read

Just go watch the big bang theory anon, it's made for retards like you that want to nerdlarp. You can make all your theories about sheldon being schizophrenic and raj being gay.

No. 342808

>>342804
>acts smug about something she just found out through tiktok
TVTropes, bitch. Let me guess, you've never heard of it and will assume it's zoomer shit kek
>her lack of reading comprehension leaks through every single one of her posts
You've been encouraged to explain and elaborate three times now and never did, gee I wonder why
>dead set on a retarded theory that's easily disproven by just reading the fucking comic
It isn't
>seethes when called out
You're the only one who's been chimping out because your special little comic is being read by people other than you, to the point another anon defended me, but you refuse to back down still
>meanwhile explodes in anger when someone proves her thery wrong
Show me one instance. All you've been doing is throwing around accusations of shit that never happened. Just admit you're running your mouth pointlessly, contribute or fuck off
>just go watch the big bang theory anon
How about you go watch Rick and Morty? You'd fit right in, you're a pretentious NLOG tardlet who thinks she's smarter than everyone while just proving she's so autistic and out of touch that she views everyone as the kids she sees on TikTok. You don't adress any of the points because you're humiliated and keep repeating the same shit hoping it will bury the points you're so desperately trying to dodge. And all because I suggested the type of theory that's existed since the dawn of time, but apparently you can't make the difference between a "character hallucinates events" theory and woke headcanons. And the bitch has the audacity to claim I lack media literacy. Oh, and you still failed to contextualize the panel I posted TWICE within the EC lore. I've seen agressive anons before but none were as pathetic, damn…

No. 342810

>>342806
>Show me one instance. All you've been doing is throwing around accusations of shit that never happened. Just admit you're running your mouth pointlessly, contribute or fuck off
you have to be trolling, i refuse to believe you are so retarded. Anons literally told you you are a retarded zoomer >>342730 >>342733 that cant understand characters from an era you werent even born into did something you cant relate to, so you have to attribute it to some zoomer theory.

No. 342811

>>342810
My theory is that something is off with the signal, leading to paranormal events with the town's electronics and people using them à la 5G theory. Apparently this concept completely cancels out all the comic's jokes and social commentary, because… reasons? Yeah I don't even expect you to make sense anymore. I'd say the one who doesn't get it is you, since the comic is mainly centered around calling out toxic fans and the kind of retard who acts the way you do.
And you still didn't contextualiee the panel I showed LMFAO

No. 342812

>>342811
your larp isn't funny, just beyond pathetic and tryhard.
>And you still didn't contextualiee the panel I showed LMFAO
Evan Dorkin is the creator, it's not hard to understand you turbo retard. If you knew anything about Evan Dorkin or read his other works you would have known >>342644 is a reference to him working on Space Ghost coast to coast.

No. 342815

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>>342812
>reference to him working on Space Ghost coast to coast
And? I read through the comic 2 days ago, you realize that right? You kept sperging about how I apparently don't get the story or references to pop culture if I didn't know this, so please explain, how is it integral to the lore? I can't wait to hear about how it ties in to the finale arc!
And lmfao you YET again didn't contextualize the panel I showed. I can't, you didn't adress a single point, you just kept clinging to the one anecdote you know about the creator as if it's somehow a win to one-up someone who is new to the comic about it. But then again, what the fuck do I know, I'm just a lowly peasant who didn't know Dorkin worked on a show he referenced. Not only does it change everything but it also just shows how BRILLIANT you are! Everyone, clap for anon!

No. 342817

>>342815
If you werent absolutely smug and obnoxious about it i wouldnt have cared, but you had to pretend you totally did get the jokes when you obviously dont. And you keep trying to hang on to your theory people have disproven over, and over because the comic must feel like white noise to a zoomer like you. You are incapable of grasping the humor and era of it. There is no deep lore, it's a niche comic made for nerds to laugh at nerdy references and the characters, there is no overarching plot besides the characters growing into adulthood to shift the era from the 90s to the 10s(the comic ran for years) It's just a slice of life parody. It's like trying to find some deeper meaning to lucky stars about how the characters are ackshually anorexic, since you see them talking about food but never eating it and they never get fat. You are the worst, most insufferable type of zoomer.

No. 342818

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>>342811
Nta but holy shit no wonder you’re pushing schizo theories you want something to relate to and projecting on a fatass fanboy is all you have. No the character isn’t schizophrenic, Josh isn’t talking to the tv he called the tv host and mentioned ordering from their catalogue because that’s what people did before online ordering was huge like how it is now. You’ve never seen a home shopping network or actually read/watch media from before you were born aside from looking through tv tropes and it shows

No. 342819

>>342817
Never said there was any deep lore, I literally mentionned over and over that the theory doesn't interfere with canon and is a potential easteregg if anything. Not once was it disproven but you failed to show me the previous 4 times so I won't bother asking again. You're an insufferable braindead retard who thinks everyone who has the misfortune of coming across her is the typical caricatural zoomer, because lf course the fact I'm probably older than you is inconceivable to you. Yes, other women know pop culture, no, you're not exceptional. I had to look up like three references and two actresses in the totality of the issues, that's it. And if you think there's nothing wrong with Josh you're even more of a retard than I thought.
>>342818
Oh great, another retard. If you had half a brain you would've realized I mentionned him doing this previously and that my issue is the change of TV set despite the signal being shit back then. Oh wait, you didn't catch that because you're just regurgitating what you read an anon say before you. It's honestly a statistical prowess that two illiterate cunts appear back-to-back like this, unless it's samefagging kek
>reeeee all you do is read tropes
Ah fuck you got me, yes indeed I only read through tv tropes, i never watch anything or read anything, i only ever go on tvtropes it's all i use ever (sarcasm, just felt the need to specify given your level here)

No. 342829

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i dont think she's baiting anymore anons, i think she's legit this mentally ill

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No. 342836

>>342819
How are you so schizo you can’t comprehend daily life in the late 80s to early 90s? Signal being shit back then wasn’t like that for everyone either. People would sometimes have separate components and antennas just for that issue and it was terrible in rural areas but a slightly shoddy signal doesn’t mean whatever schizo shit you’re pushing. Run off to twitter or wherever other ‘theories’ are seen as valid by other zoomers so you can stop shitting up the thread here with schizobabble

No. 342840

>>342836
>it was terrible in rural areas
Take a wild guess as to where the fuck the boys live. And we are talking about a guy who can't even view porn on his computer without the whole shitbox crashing.
How about actually reading the comic before having an aneurysm about a paranormal theory?

No. 342843

>>342840
it's genuinely not that deep. You are trying to fill gaps that arent there because zoomers are incapable of understanding nuance in something as simple as a comedy sol.

No. 342844

>>342840
They don’t live in a rural area retard they’re literally in Staten Island and have shown they can walk from their houses/take a bus and are able to be in town for the majority of the day. Even being at opening for most retail stores for figures and comics, they also all live relatively close to each other so this disproves whatever shit you’re trying to portray. Unless you consider living in a semi suburban area that’s a 10 minute drive from town to be rural

No. 342845

>>342843
Bitch please. I am not trying to fill any gaps. There aren't even any gaps other than whether or not Mandy fucking survived. I am making a speculation about paranormal happenings, the equivalent of cryptids in GTA. Did you have a meltdown at people lookikg for Bigfoot in GTA and tell them it ruins the game? No, so what's the issue?
Worst I could do is, low and behold: share my theory, which I already did. Please find actual problems with the fandoms, like tumblrfags shipping Jerry and Bill or making them all gay.

No. 342846

>>342845
shipping is normal, getting this angry and defensive over a stupid theory that has been disproven is short-bus retarded.

No. 342848

>>342844
Except they live in suburbs and it's the early 2000s. As someone who spent her youth in a suburb around that time: it takes an actual fucking minute for a website to fully load and calls are fucking cancer to suffer through, let alone webcamming, not to mention shit quality. The iphones don't make much sense either, everyone whipped one out at the store when a girl walked in (you'd think that at least someone would have a flipphone considering mfers use cassettes). There is more than one problem in that comic regarding technology and consistancy. But hey apparently you're the 90s-00s expert…
>>342846
Not disproven, and if anything it's you getting angry. Noting suggests it's true and nothing suggests it's false, the TV show host incident is far from the only point supporting the theory. I don't care that some braindead cows don't like my theory, especially when they're defending shipping of fucking EC boys. Being fujo is one thing, tif-tier shipping is another. God and they call ME the tiktok zoomer, look in the mirror retard. No, shipping acne-covered teens who puke on people isn't cute.

No. 342856

>>342808
tv tropes is for midwits who think they're smart

No. 342860

>>342856
Nah TVtropes is for women who need specific husbandos. It helps me find characters I otherwise would've never found and it makes my "evil redhead"- and "meganekkun"-loving heart happy. It's legit a sfw haven if you have specific kinks

No. 342862

>>342848
Yeah you’re a newfag, calling other anons cows all because you’re too retarded to read the comic and doubling down on how shitty this theory is. You realize people had phones in their cars in the 80s too right? Technology wasn’t that terrible, you even said waiting for a minute for a website to load in was showing how bad it was. But the characters are shown to have 90s tech and dial up internet was even worse compared to the early 00s. So it’s obvious you can’t comprehend anything beyond what you experience and that’s why you’re jumping to schizo theories. What’s next the boys are troons because they like Star Trek and they’re short? Also shipping is atleast shown to be done in fun and not trying to bend canon to fit what they want, the moment people do that they’re made fun of and seen as reaching for over analyzing shit. Which is what you’re doing right now. You’re in a comic thread arguing theories about a comic based on characters that reflect how most comicfags are and you’re surprised you’re being shit on

No. 342865

>>342848
The comic with the smartphones was written in 2014 (This Fan, This Monster (Dark Horse Comics, 2014)) and was never meant to be a period piece, but only a view on the worst of geek culture

No. 342868

>>342862
Cheap bait. I've proven that I keep up with the comic more than anons arguing with me.
And even if you disregard my experiences, anons here are disregarding too many incoherences. You yourself conveniently ignored my statement about the iphones.
>What’s next the boys are troons because they like Star Trek and they’re short?
Ah yes because fantasizing about paranormal tv wave adventures is (according to you) similar to tumblr headcanons. Nevermind the fact that I mentionned shipping and sexuality headcanons being trash like 2 responses ago! How about actually reading posts you try to argue against?
>Also shipping is atleast shown to be done in fun and not trying to bend canon to fit what they want
There are no words to descrine how braindead you are. No really, you just won the retard olympics, you cannot make this up. You really just acted like shipping doesn't interfere with canon (not a single one of those guys is gay or bisexual) while making up a theory, - and acknowledging it as such, and even stating it doesn't mess with the canon at all since it doesn't retcon shit - interferes with canon.
And tbh I'd rather be reeed at for making a fun theory for myself rather than say embarrassing shit like you. The lack of self-awareness lmfao, the whole point of EC is to make fun of sperg fans, not all of them

>>342865
Congratulations, you're the first person with a brain who responded to me. I'm actually unsure about this one. What you say is of course true but I don't know if it's possible to separate fandom from time period. I think around 2015 there was this big boom of normalization of pop culture, it all became extremely mainstream. I'd say sooner even, like post-2010. A fan in 2000 is way different than one from 2010, and both will be extremely different from 2020-era fans (especially after sjw gendie shit became the norm). Some things never change (like the misogyny kek) but most do, so I'm not sure if we can really consider the time period to be irrelevant. Comics themselves changed a lot due to this, I mean hell, the emergance of the MCU is proof. But that's a whole discussion in itself, anyone who isn't a NLOG sperg is welcome to debate here

No. 342869

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>>342868
>anyone that calls me out on my bullshit is an NLOG sperg
>proceeds to write autistic manifestos about how a sol satirical comic is ackshually super deep and has supernatural undertones
this is why we must gatekeep nonnas

No. 342871

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>>342868
>(not a single one of those guys is gay or bisexual)
josh being bisexual is more canon than josh being some schizoid with denpa radio wave super powers

No. 342872

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>>342869
>never said it was deep, i gave it the depth of an easteregg
>i called the first anon an NLOG because she thought EC was niche
>doesn't read a single one of my points and infights anyways for the sake of edgy gatekeeping of a comic that's semi-mainstream
Where are tard wranglers when you need them

No. 342873

>>342868
Newfag can’t comprehend shipping even though most scifi series were kept afloat by women and fujos. Even Star Trek fags back then were crazy about spock/kirk, there are grandmas that remember sending letters to tv stations begging not to cancel the show for that shit. How the fuck are you arguing for this shit and not realizing you sound exactly like the fags that joined any comic discussion fandom in the 2020s with your paranormal schizo shit. No different than reddit tier analysis on a rugrats episode saying that they’re all in purgatory because they don’t age. Take your shit to /co/ on 4moids or reddit so you can get your asspats

No. 342874

>>342871
And you're the one who tells me I can't recognize a joke and look too deep into things? That panel is a joke. The joke is that gay = embarrassing and that he got turned off after the thought intruded.
I'm begging you tards to not turn this shit into the new Cartman x Kyle. We don't need another one

No. 342875

>>342872
EC was niche until retarded tiktokers found about it. It was considered too niche to become a cartoon and that's why the pilot flopped(+ it being expensive). NLOG means nothing anymore. You are calling me an NLOG for understanding the humor of the comic, which is obscure nerd references. That doesn't make me an NLOG, there are tons of women into nerdshit, it makes you a retarded zoomer newfag.

No. 342876

>>342874
No, with your logic josh is 100% bisexual, there is no space for nuance according to you. Since it's ackshually a super deep comic and nothing is exagerated for laughs, Josh is bi. If he's schizophrenic because the author exagerated on some panels then he's bisexual because the author made him masturbate to a male character.

No. 342878

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>>342873
> the fags that joined any comic discussion fandom in the 2020s with your paranormal schizo shit. No different than reddit tier analysis on a rugrats episode saying that they’re all in purgatory because they don’t age
So you try to make a point by comparing me to 2020 tiktok zoomers, only to compare what I said to shit you'd see on the internet back in like 2012… Whatever you say, fujo anon. Still better than shipping acne having social rejects.
>Newfag can’t comprehend shipping
Maybe my IQ isn't high enough tl grasp the depth of EC yaoi kek Funny enough I was a fujo back in 2014. Only i actually grew out of it, unlike some
>>34287
EC was mainstream since 2016, and Dorkin joined Twitter to promote it that same year. Your obsession with tiktok zoomers is getting redundant, switch it up, start blaming trannies or something. And no dumbass, I call you an NLOG because you're desperately trying to gatekeep shit that spawns meme formats to this day. Every fandom has people like you, who think their favorite piece of media is so special until le evil youngsters find it, when in reality the fanbase was always there and you're just discovering it more because you choose to interact.
>>342876
>no nuance according to you
Learn to read dumbitch, I said several times it was for fun and that I don't consider it canon. Can any of you cunts read at all or is your memory just shitty?
>ackshually a super deep comic
Repeating it a THIRD time now: it's an easter egg. I MYSELF saod SEVERAL TIMES it's not that deep. It's a theory I made up FOR FUN. Understand? Theory. For fun. NOT canon. Am I going too fast? Watch the next retard dismiss this entirely yet again…
>exagerated on some panels
>some panels
Really? Some panels? Only some of them? Josh hands wrote this post istg. See picrel

No. 342879

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>>342872
If you were a comicfag, you’d gatekeep. Look at what comics are now and see how all the shit you say you hate is on main line issues. Troon characters and gay ships being pushed to get praised as ground breaking then not making any money so companies shaft certain characters because they think they’re unpopular when really they’re just lumped into that shit and nobody wants to read it.

No. 342880

>>342879
Kek I thought that the bat meant she was gonna hit trans people with it, not that she was one. Then I saw the text and got disappointed.

No. 342881

>>342878
A character acting like an unhinged asshole does not mean he’s schizophrenic. Someone having plans to destroy something that has caused them to get shit on does not make someone schizophrenic. Being called crazy by friends does not make someone schizophrenic, if that was the case you’d be a perfect example of a retard just from the shit you write here

No. 342882

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>>342879
But I hate trannies too though. Gatekeeping helps abolish sjw shit sure, but harmless theories aren't as bad as this absolute fucking joke here
>>342880
I fucking wish. Nah the bat is a reference to picrel. They really fucking thought it would help them seem more normal and not like even worse MENaces to society. Exhausting. Batman doesn't eat pussy but apparently batman supports AGP scrotes…

No. 342883

>>342882
But the thing is you only mentioned the theory being told as something fun to think about after all the shit stirring. If you just said the theory was just that nobody would’ve cared yet you threw a whole schizoid fit and stretched it from yesterday to today trying to defend yourself and now you’re backtracking

No. 342884

>>342881
Read the comic, brainlet. He's aggressive as fuck, has no social cues and is considerably more unhinged than the other 3, not to mention he's fat which in itself is a huge red flag and a sign of insanity. Stop trying to normalize this fuckery, i'm not saying he's schizo as in "uwu mental health representation", i'm saying he's schizo as in "holy shit this guy's nuts". Please grow up, not everything is tiktok shit
>>342883
Because i figured that "theory" means "hypothetical", I sadly couldn't predict brainless attention whores forgetting what "theory" means so they could sperg out

>>342879
I just found out that the Batgirl movie was gonna feature a hon to play Alysia and I couldn't be happier it's cancelled. While researching I came across the Nubia transwoman on Themyscira bullshit and I wanna punch something. Thank god I never cared about Nubia to read that shit. It doesn't make any fucking sense, at that rate any moid can "identify" as a woman and have free access to Themyscira. What, does the island work like the lasso and it can see into your heart to check if you're not a trender? But that's "truscum" mentality so it contradicts the wokeys who came up with that shit, since apparently merely suggesting trenders exist is transphobic. Therefore it doesn't fucking work, either the island judges via your biology or it can't fucking do it.

No. 342885

>>342884
holy shit you are insane do you do this for every single piece of media you watch? do you think anime genki tropes are actually all adhd ridden cocomelon zoomies like you?

No. 342886

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>>342884
>hes fat
>he misses social cues
>hes angry and more unhinged than the other 3
>therefore hes a schizo because… because of comic panels exaggerating a fictional character meant to represent comic fans the author hates!!
He is a MALE comicfag, of course hes fat and unhinged. Tiktokfags pull out the armchair and do the same shit you’re doing right now yet you think you’re different? Calling other anons NLOGs while you’re the biggest one here and being the physical embodiment of picrel

No. 342888

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>>342685
Yeah, it's beautiful. I'm honored to be in time to witness EC autism [Live In HD]

No. 342889

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>>342885
>>342886
Sweet, two retards for the price of one. If I really was an armchair psychologist, I'd tiktok-diagnose ALL the boys since they're all unhinged and one even burned a store down. But no, I don't. Josh is considerably weirder than the other 3 and if you're too retarded to realize it it's probably because you act similar kek.

While I'm at it: I'm tired of tard-wrangling illiterate bitches so I came up with a full deconstruction of trans-inclusive Themyscira. If you see any loopholes please tell me, I want to make sure I have a correct debunk
>if the island rejects TiMs, normal people accept it but wokies won't
>if the island is transmed, it's transphobic and anti-woke so neither wokies nore normal people will accept it
>if it's similar only the island just requires you to be dysphoric, same thing
>if it's tucute (for the luckily unfamiliar: people who think you don't need dysphoria to be trans) then the female-only security system is obsolete since not only can anyone identify as a woman, but also…
There's some paradoxes that need to be adressed. What if a person is
>bigender? (Thinks theyre both a man and a woman) Does the island sink or not?
>nonbinary? What happens to the island?
>an amazon who suddenly troons out? Does the island suddenly sink?
I know none of these things are real. But I just wanna point out how inclusive Themyscira cannot possibly work. Let's not forget women who think they're "men in a woman's body". Does that make the island sink or nah? I have a burning urge to ask the writers about this somehow. I won't do it because it's gay but I can't be the only one who thinks it'd be funny to embarrass them like that. Granted all it would do is have TRAs screech that "you spent all this time to debunk a comic lmao ur so obsessed" but idc, i want them to remember Themyscira is not for Themlets

No. 342890

>>342884
>I just found out that the Batgirl movie was gonna feature a hon to play Alysia and I couldn't be happier it's cancelled.
jfc, we really live in a time line where men are taking women's jobs by taking their roles.

No. 342891

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>>342890
Look at this shit. It's established canon in that universe now, Barb has a tranny roommate and the fucker didn't warn her. The fact she didn't notice is more unrealistic than all of Batman lore

No. 342892

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>>342879
>>342882
>>342891
troons really are a cancer

No. 342893

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>>342889
not reading all that autism you will never enjoy peak /co/ autism EC club with the girlies, sad

No. 342898

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>>342891
Wow, i fucking hate this. I hate this so much.

No. 342901

>>342884
>I just found out that the Batgirl movie was gonna feature a hon to play Alysia
What do you mean? Alysia has always been a troon. Gail Simone introduced this travesty in 2011. Did you think wokies would ever have a woman play a troon? Would never happen.

No. 342903

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The Boys is shit but i love this panel

No. 342909

>>342685
I had just started reading the comic before witnessing this fight and so it's been great entertainment kek

No. 342924

>>342903
All comic shop owners are the same

No. 345635

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I’m so glad I read this comic. I wasn’t expecting to like it so much. The Marathon Men was my favorite chapter, especially the artwork on this page

No. 347061

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Is graphic novels allowed? Got recommended to read this graphic novel, and I avoided it because it had the lgbt tag. When I actually read it, it seemed like an innocent gnc boy who likes fashion paired with his seamstress but the author couldn't help but add some vague troon shit unfortunately. The funny thing is while he's not written like a lesbian larping agp, there's still way too many parallels to reality. Like him stealing a beauty pageant from natal women when he has no need for the prize as he's the fucking prince. This girl works herself to the bones to give him the most ~euphoric~ clothes he can wear. He fucking steals his mom's dress and gets no repercussion at the ending kekkk. There's even a scene where he admits being a prince has benefits, it's as if being a woman is only a costume to you that you can take off any time.

No. 347077

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>>347061
>i wear boys clothes and look like my father
>that doesn't feel right because i feel like a princess
i haven't read this comic but based on that quote alone it sounds like he enjoy the benefits of royalty but he doesn't wanna deal with the responsibility of ruling a kingdom. Nitpick but the wording of this is weird. Princess is a title but here it sounds like he is using princess as in the fairytale archetype. "those days i feel like a woman" or "I want to be my father's daughter" would had sounded more natural imo. I doubt someone living in a vaguely renaissance inspired monarchy would had the same association with the word princess as we do.
>it seemed like an innocent gnc boy who likes fashion
I looked it up and the author desribed him as genderqueer. There wore kings and crownprinces who where mocked in court for not living up to a manly ideal. A fairytalesque story that says there are no such thing as boys hobbies and girls hobbies, and a man isn't automatically a good person just because he likes war and sex could've been cute. Instead it's "this boy isn't really a boy because he likes dresses"
> him stealing a beauty pageant from natal women when he has no need for the prize as he's the fucking prince. This girl works herself to the bones to give him the most ~euphoric~ clothes he can wear.
ugh, of course.

No. 347078

>>347077
>Nitpick but the wording of this is weird. Princess is a title but here it sounds like he is using princess as in the fairytale archetype.
It's a loosely medeival in name and aesthetics only. And pretty much modern with shopping mall and beauty pageants.
>but other interpretations of the character's relationship to their gender presented by the readers were also valid.
Wow, I'm glad my head canon where he's just a straight man into fashion is canon, then.
I believe there are even kweer kids who hated the vagueness of this. He's too comfortable with being male to be fully kweer to them.

No. 347103

I wanna get into comics while not wasting my time on shit that's too moid-brained and/or has trannies in it. It's hard enough to find scans, it's harder to dodge the shit i mentionned.

No. 347200

>>347103
You can go read in comic aggregator sites like readcomiconline. Franco-Belgian comics like >>226117 >>190509 are a good start.

No. 347542

>>347200
This. Also if you have an Android tablet or phone download Tachiyomi. You can read comics from those sites without having to deal with ad spam. It can even track, download and send you a notification every time a new issue is available.

No. 351435

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Has anyone read this? I've never met another person who has lol. I loved the series when I was younger and randomly remembered it and re-read the entire series poorly translated into english on some fuck ass website. It's so shallow and funny at the start but the story starts to get pretty complex out of fucking nowhere. God I fucking wish the authors hadn't broke up, the story was JUST getting good.

No. 351467

>>351435
>It's so shallow and funny at the start but the story starts to get pretty complex out of fucking nowhere
I remember reading it in middle school a very long time ago, I never finished it because I borrowed the books. What you said about it reminded me of Lou a lot. It was also some dumb and funny comic about a teenage girl and her mom and neighbors and suddenly it turned into a soap opera but I didn't like how it changed back then.

No. 351473

>>351435
I'm seething because I wanted to see how the whole drama would end, I read this back then in /co/ during a story time, good times.
I re-read this not too long ago and I still think it's seriously nice how it goes from basic teen problems to murder mystery kek.

No. 351502

>>351473
Vicky's whole character and her thing with Megane actually made me so sorry for her which was so unexpected when you consider her earlier on in the series. I love this series so much and I'm so sad it doesn't have a bigger fandom… The characters really have depth when you reflect on it, Karine and Albin are interesting too. Man I'm so pissed the authors went seperate ways and basically abandoned their project… you can't just leave us like that!! At least battle for custody damn!
>>351467
I remember seeing Lou at my local library too anon! I might read it, I love these types of cutesie girl comics with weirdly fleshed out storylines

No. 351509

>>351435
it was published in spirou which i read as a kid. ngl i liked it better when it was just silly but i stopped reading when it started getting super dramatic with epic plot twists and murder and shit

No. 351578

>>351435
Oh buddy, I used to read those whenever my parents would take us grocery shopping when I was a teenager/young adult. I'd go sit in the manga/comics aisle on the floor and read em, cuz nobody in the store cared if you read the comics/mangas without buying where I'm from. It was a bit over the top but it had very funny moments too. Good times

No. 351671

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Just finished Sleepwalk by Adrian Tomine! I loved it so much. It's a bunch of short little slices of people's lives, usually about loneliness. I like the format but I also found it a little frustrating, because the snippets were so intriguing I wanted more from every story and to see where the characters ended up. Favorite stories: The twin girls being taken to a comics convention by their hippie dad, and the woman who thinks she's being described in a Missed Connections section of the local newspaper.
Does anyone have recommendations for similar comics?

No. 352157

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Just finished reading "The Eltingville Club" because of the positive reviews in this thread and it was great! It made me feel like drawing a lot actually. The characters are people I've actually interacted with so it made me laugh a lot and had a big relatability to it. I'm checking out Milk and Cheese right now but if there are any other comics you guys really love and think are worth checking out lemme know. I also finished reading Beautiful Darkness, I liked the art so much and the concept but I did feel a little disappointed at the ending. I think I just wanted more! I've been reading a lot of comics and manga lately since I've finally learned to pirate properly. I'm just glad I don't have to waste shelf space figuring out if I like the comic or not and having a half finished collection because whatever I'm reading has fallen off for me.

No. 352313

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>>352157
I used to read Milk and Cheese in my mum's old Deadline mags! I only realized it was the dude who did Eltingville recently.

No. 352344

>>352313
Your mom sounds really badass anon, I wish my family liked or understood comics at all!

No. 353961

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This is official art-btw.

No. 353962

>>353961
I love this.

No. 353963

>>352157
I’ve been wanting to get into Eltingville and i think this is my cue! Also wait- the characters are supposed to be teenagers? From the excerpts I saw I definitely thought they were supposed to be grown men in their 20s and 30s kek

No. 354071

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Any Green lantern enjoyers here?

No. 354148

>>353963
The stories take place as them being teens in the 90s. Only in the epilogue are they adults

No. 354169

>>354071
Kek what is the context here

No. 354225

>>354169
The writer made Hal Jordan date a 13 year old girl.

No. 354265

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Absolutely unhinged queen

No. 354266

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No. 354282

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>>354266
>can carry a car
>can't carry a woman

No. 354283

>>354071
Fucking ugly bastardized I hate his guts

No. 354285

>>354283
Are you more of a Guy Gardner guy?

No. 355019

can anyone recommend underground / indie comics in a similar vein to fabulous furry freak brothers but by a female author / at least about female characters? the whole genre is so male dominated, it's a bit depressing

No. 358501

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Mirka Andolfo's Blasfamous is out and it was a wonderful read, anyone else here read it yet?

No. 358760

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I bought a bunch of Real Stuff by Dennis P Eichhorn at a flea market for ridiculously cheap, what a fun read! I'm most impressed by the fact that Eichhorn was able to get so many insanely big names to illustrate his comics. Personal favorite was the one where he gets fatter and fatter to dodge the Vietnam war draft.



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