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No. 190387
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just found this webcomic, it's right in the beginning and i really like it so far since i like franco belgian slice of life/realistic, autobiographical comics in general
https://www.littletinythings.com/ No. 190425
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>>190402i forgot that they use tintin as french language resources, at least in europe. how much french i actually learned from it is by the by. also barbapapa haha
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>>190397There's also the Smurfs and Valerian, just to name 2 of the latest and most internationally successful movie adaptations
Biggest drama in franco-belgian comic industry right now is that they're rebooting Gaston Lagaffe
For those who don't know, usually european comics, just like manga, die when their original (and unique) writer die, but under what seems to be american comics' influence more and more get a reboot. Sometimes it's a complete tone change (Spirou), sometimes it's as close to the original as possible (Astérix). Some see it as another money grubbing scheme by greedy editors, some think of it as an occasion to get new stories
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>>190428Just barging in to say you reminded me that I found out about Valerian thanks to the French/Japanese anime long ago, with the French voice acting which was pretty ok imo, although I missed some episodes on TV. I was shocked when I heard about the live action movie later and saw that Valerian was turned into a rat-faced twink and Laureline was blonde in that one, I didn't even want to see that one just for that.
When Space Dandy was announced and trailers started being posted on Youtube it also vaguely reminded me of the anime but they're actually very different since Valerian et Laureline follow a specific plot while Space Dandy is very episodic. Maybe I should check out the actual comics someday.
I read a lot of French and Belgian comics as a kid but don't remember all the details. I kept reading way more manga than anything else later because they were easier to read in the right order at the library, some American and European comics series were always borrowed by others before I could borrow them so I kinda gave up. Here's what I could recommend based on my vague memories:
>Corto Maltese. Here's my conspiracy theory: Jotaro was probably based on Corto, not just because of the character design but also because Jotaro later gets a PhD related to marine fauna>Yoko Tsuno was great, I liked the stories taking place on earth more than the ones taking place in space for some reason>read Spirou if you want, don't even touch le petit Spirou though, it might as well be unrelated, it's trash. Same shit with Titeuf, it's fucking shit for horny teenage boys with a shitty sense of humor>Lucky Luke is good, the cartoon was also pretty good>I've heard Martin Mystère is actually a comics before it was adapted into a cartoon, and in that one, Martina and Diana are love interests instead of being siblings, which explains A LOT. I never read that one, I really should just because I'm curious.>Lou was a cute about a middle school girl and her mom who write novels at first, then it turned into a boring "coming out of age" story that took itself too seriously. As a comparison, imagine if you were reading Azumanga Daioh for the funny jokes and suddenly everyone is starting to question their lives and their future and they get a serious love interest>Le collège invisible was ok, I read it in middle school. Was a bit too fanservicey sometimes, you'd sometimes think you're reading some shonen shit>Mélusine is great, read it. You have to, it's iconic.>I read the two first volumes of Freak Squeele and liked it a lot but it was so popular at the library I couldn't continue reading the next books. Maybe I should buy them someday.>A bunch of people told me to read Last Man but I'm super confused as to what it is about. It has a cartoon that has a very good reputation too, it's fairly recent.>I remember when Pink Diary was first released, people called it a "manfra", as in a French manga, which is a really embarrassing name. It was also marketed as drawn and written by the Totally Spies and Martin Mystère character designer. Big mistake because it's not the same vibe AT ALL, half of the character have severe mental issues, it's about high schoolers with love triangles and bullying but none of the funny scenes from your typical shojo manga No. 190477
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>>190447Last Man is a sort of imitation of shonen mangas (there's a fighting tournament) made partly by Bastien Vivès, who was the hottest writer/drawer about 10 years ago and who's a big fan of the Street Fighter games. There's a lot of references to fighting games and tournament anime in it with some twists. It's decent if you like action movies and cool moms. It's not to be confused with the brian k vaughan comic Y the last man
My absolutely favorite french comics is De Cape et de Crocs, which is an adventure comic in a world where Molière plays are mixed with Cyrano de Bergerac and about every french de cape et d'épée novels. The heroes are an anthropomorphized wolf and fox (and their kind rabbit companion, Eusèbe), about everyone else is human. Dialogues in it are the best you can find in the medium (poems and bons mots everywhere), which sadly makes it a nearly untranslatable series that requires extensive knowledge of french lit (roughly native french high school level) to be fully appreciated
No. 190509
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I love capeshit as much as the next nerd but I also love that we're kicking this off w/ different comics. As long as we're talking European, let me introduce Beautiful Darkness, one of my favorite horror comics ever. Basically the Borrowers, except (not really a spoiler, it's revealed in the first ten pages, but still) the adorable little pixie people live inside and around the decaying corpse of a little girl. Gets really Lord of the Fliesish.
Not everything they've worked on is this dark, but the art team, Kerascoet (who I think are a husband and wife duo), do amazing work in general. They're such good cartoonists, but also capable of incredible painterly realism.
No. 190563
>>190509Someone else read it!
It really was one of the best horror stories I've read. It's not even gory, it just showcases the naive cruelty of fairies against the sheer cruelty of nature, but it made me more squeamish than any horror movie ever managed to
No. 190712
>>190563There's two of us!!! Ugh, yes, there's something purely uneasy about it. What do you think about
the human guy who lives in the shack and maybe killed the little girl? I've literally never been able to talk to anyone about this book, so maybe that's me making a crazy assumption, but that's how I've always read it.
still not sure what I think about the fact that the dead girl and our lead pixie have the same name No. 190732
>>190712nta but i have read it too and honestly the
guy in the cottage kind of ruined it for me because i started thinking about
him being some pedophile murderer who killed the girl and the story became way too depressing for me No. 190802
>>190712>>190732Yeah that's definitely what I think happened. I mean,
her corpse was in the woods for a reason >>190712Maybe it's her
ghOooOoooOst No. 191635
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Does anyone else here love a writer so much they trudge through tens of issues of mediocre comics just to get to the part where they start writing? I did this at least twice for Alan Moore (Swamp Thing and WildC.A.T.s )
No. 192933
>>192895Depends on the store, of course – for ref, we've worked hard to establish ourselves as a "comics are a medium, not a genre" place, and that's pretty much how people perceive us, though we do definitely sell superhero stuff. Things are still a little slow from covid, so I find myself thinking of "stuff that's been big over the last 2-3 years" rather than "stuff that's big LITERALLY THIS WEEK," but let's see….Harleen, Something is Killing the Children, anything Tom King, shonen biggies like Demon Slayer/My Hero Academia, Invincible (never a guarantee that a show/movie will move comics, but it is here), HoXPoX and some of the ensuing titles, a truly gargantuan number of kids/YA ogns of all genres, the big Image and Vertigo trades (Saga, Sex Crims, WicDiv, Die did pretty well, Sandman, Y). Definitely haven't gotten as many new titles lately in floppies, but we're hoping that'll change. Tbh floppies haven't made up most of our profit in a long time, but I'd like some new series to read. Lots of big titles ended riiiight before covid, and there's still a bit of vacuum.
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This thread is pretty dead but I'll post anyway. I just read a Swedish comic called Nattbarn by Hanna Gustavsson (I don't think there's English translation, but a short film based on it was apparently made in 2017). It's about this awkward 14-year-old girl called Iggy who listens to metal and browses shitty social media sites. I have to say it's really relatable (sadly and embarrassingly also the part that she's a huge fujo coomer and that she gets groomed by some gross old dude - that was me irl like 100%). It sent me straight back to teenage memories and I had a couple hearty keks as well.
Also I love the fact that Iggy and her friend are drawn in such a non-coomery way, it really reflects the awkwardness of being a teenager. Warms my heart.
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This guy is so unnecessary to me he feels like such a forced character in what is already a bloated family/group. I don't understand why his creators insisted on pushing Duke as a bat character. If anything he really would have benefited from being his own character but DC and Marvel are allergic to creating new IPs that aren't connected to big names.
I don't even think most of his fans actually read his comics outside of the batfamily webtoon comic which somewhat alters his personality into generic mush even more which is surprising considering his lack of personality and character in the comics.
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>>215852He's destined to be left out of the batfamily and every time it happens his fans rile up and accuse the writers of being racist.
>>208677I heard the "Making Comics" book by Scott McCloud is really good for anyone that wants to write comics. I know this is really late but in case anyone else is interested.
No. 226113
>>220345I like Damien but not as a direct member of the family. And now there's a bajillion of them nobody recognizes and will be used as cannon fodder the next time Joker needs to kill minor characters.
I feel like there's cool stories you can make about Bruce's weird test tube rape baby but just shoving him in a Robin costume only goes so far
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>>190509omg happy to see i'm not alone! i love french graphic novels, from kerascoet i also recommend 'beauty' and 'satania', both have really gorgeous art and interesting stories.
i've recently also got into the work of timothe le boucher, both 'the days that disappear' and 'the patient' really stuck with me.
have any of you comic nonnies read anything by tillie walden? i LOVE her art and the fact that her stories are almost 100% just female characters lmao
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I find it hilarious how Morrison claimed to have read feminist literature in order to write wonder woman earth one. I understand that he's trying to bring elements from the golden age, which fail since he's a degen moid. Why couldn't he be normal about her comic? I'm somewhat annoyed that Wondy was supposed to have a all stars comic but it got cancelled since the artist was also the writer and it took way too long as a result.
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>>220345I agree
nonnie, but DC comics have to bend to twitterfags that scream 'x-phobic' and whatever every time they demand something (cough cough, the sad tale of batgirl comics). Daiman should have just been his own character without being related to Bruce and others, but Batman remains to be the only character that carries the DC franchise it seems.
No. 226510
>>226505Most of Damian's character relies on him being Bruce's son you take that away and you don't have Damian. There are other characters that don't need to be part of the batfam like Duke/the signal, flamebird (batwoman's sidekick), that blue haired girl Snyder introduced. Other characters like the huntress should breakaway and I really hate it when writers push Black Canary into Gotham or pretend like she's part of the batfam.
Not related but why does Barbara have piercings here?
I really don't understand why writers don't put as much effort into other characters the same way they put effort into batman/batfam. I was resistant to read batman comics for a while until I started picking up a few of his classics. It's so much better than other characters.
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>>226500for her golden age version its honestly accurate characterization, the creator of Wonder Woman, William Moulton Marston was a degen moid, really into BDSM and bondage and had a poly relationship with himself, his wife and one of his students, in fact he created wonder woman specifically to "indoctrinate" children, like he believed women were superior to men, because they were "tender, submissive and peace-loving" he also wanted to expose children to his kinks
>One of the purposes of these bondage depictions was to induce eroticism in readers as a part of what he called "sex love training." Through his Wonder Woman comics, he aimed to condition readers to becoming more readily accepting of loving submission to loving authorities rather than being so assertive with their own destructive egos. >"The only hope for peace is to teach people who are full of pep and unbound force to enjoy being bound… Only when the control of self by others is more pleasant than the unbound assertion of self in human relationships can we hope for a stable, peaceful human society… Giving to others, being controlled by them, submitting to other people cannot possibly be enjoyable without a strong erotic element">Physical and mental submission appears again and again throughout Marston's comics work, with Wonder Woman and her criminal opponents frequently being tied up (or otherwise restrained), and her Amazonian sisters engaging in frequent wrestling and bondage play No. 226551
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>>226539Also as a mythological/history nerd I hate him even more cause he single handily misinformed almost the entirety of the world(from normies to feminists of all waves) about the Amazons and Ares, The Amazons in the Greek myths were the daughters of ares and he was a devoted and loving father who was always stuck up for the amazons from the other Gods(going as far to Murder a son of Poseidon for the sake of his daughter, even thought that was a huge taboo in Greek society to murder one's kin), The Amazons themselves were pure warriors who fought for the thrill of battle, Marston changed all that, he made Aphrodite the creator of the Amazons and Ares was presented as the main enemy of the Amazonians who wants to destroy them and also portrayed him as a rapist who forced himself on hippolyta(who is his daughter in Greek mythology) and he turned the Amazons from a fierce warrior society into his personal bondage fetish society
No. 226566
>>226539Marston sounds like such an outlier how was he allowed to write comics?
I'm unfortunately aware of the highly questionable stuff in golden age wonder woman
I feel like female characters in comics aren't allowed to exist to be cool or have interesting stories they're created with a ton of agenda in mind or as derivates.
>>226551I don't think it's necessary a bad thing to change some aspects of mythology for a comic book but Ares being the big bad guy is to be expected but was Martson the reason why Ares is thought of as automatically evil?
If not Ares then he probably would have chosen Hades.
No. 226567
>>226551>single handedly misinformed almost the entirety of the worldYeah I don't think almost the entire population of the world gives a shit about Wonder Woman's take on Greek mythology.
Anyway the way he tries to philosophically pathologize his stupid fetish just makes me think that a lot of male philosophers and "thinkers" literally just were trying to excuse some kind of fetish. It isn't that deep, Marston!
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>>226591those myths are all from Athenians, in all versions of Athenian myths Ares is portrayed as Cowardly. Uncivilized and Brutish. however he was the main god for other Greek city states(such as the Spartans) however we only have mostly the Athenian versions of Greek myths and that is now the main source, with other greek city states only having fragmentary sources of their myhts
No. 227070
>>226995>he was the main god for other Greek city states(such as the Spartans)He wasn't, what's your source?
In regard to your pic I'll state right now that whatever statement made on Spartan women only concern the 5 to 10% of women that were citizens, the status of all others is unknown, but helot women, who were the majority of the women, were probably treated worse than cattle
No. 232825
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thoughts on Jaime Hernandez?
No. 232830
>>232825I love love and rockets although I haven't been keeping up with his new work. Hopey is a great character
also his linework is just super appealing
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No. 250302
>>250282I feel like Peter should mature as a character and maybe settle down and have a family and become a mentor for other spider characters. Kinda like Barry for Wally and other Wally. Besides, we have Miles right there who can be a young Spider-man. I honestly don't know why Marvel execs want to keep the status quo, since people who watch movies with high-school Spidie don't read comics and comic readers are already sick with this bullshit.
>>250294I shipped him with Felicia kek (and Daredevil kek).
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Crush v Lobo was such a mixed bag for me. I loved the art style, but certain parts of the story felt "twitter-ry"for me, especially that one scene of Crush at the comedy club. Ending felt a bit flat for me.
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>>220345Late as fuck but HARD agree. I am so disillusioned by the big 2 comics companies now in part because of shit like this. I'm a big Red Hood fan (or rather, a fan of his potential) but the fact he is just stuck to the 'bat family', as well as shitty writers cripples him as a character. IMO he should be an ANTAGONIST they haven't earned his character progression.
Some of my other issues with big 2 is the fucking movie tie-ins and constant fucking retcons. Moon Knight right now is being DESTROYED by his crossover events and current runs. Moon Knight vs the Avengers bastardised his character and ruins his tradition of having mostly sparing crossovers. On retcons, I cant blame new fans for being intimidated by big 2, they're fucking shit shows. It's not that I think we should never retcon…but it is frustrating as fuck to watch great stories be ruined by lesser writers, character progression and deaths are always reversed, the only variable is if it'll happen in 2 weeks or 2 years.
Anywho, I've taken a break from big 2 and started reading more indie comic, Love and Rockets albeit a bit coomer is great, I wanna get the anniversary edition but its like more than 400 AU
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>>250328>>220345Fans were def not the ones that pushed for it, it's the most hated spider-man storyline ever.
> I'm a big Red Hood fan (or rather, a fan of his potential) but the fact he is just stuck to the 'bat family', as well as shitty writers cripples him as a character. IMO he should be an ANTAGONIST they haven't earned his character progression.It's so weird to see DC pandering to Red Hood fangirls and not the fanboys especially with that batfamily webtoon. I totally agree with you I wish he had stayed as an antagonist for a bit, he works best as that anyway.
I don't mind batfamily or the concept of a superhero family like the superfamily, wonder family, arrow family but it just has to be done in a good way with interesting characters that bounce off of each other it's the reason I like Damian because his of his relationship with Dick Grayson you can't have that with the other Robins it won't be the same
But I'm tired of the bajillion new characters they introduce it's clear that most fans don't really care about and makes it hard to have stories with high stakes because there's no way that editorial will allow any of them to die since each character has die-hard fans.
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Does anyone else remember this book series?
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>>190380Cant's into superhero stuff so I ignore the related comics and movies
Currently reading We only find them when they are Dead, We ride Titans, Once and Future and Kill Lock. All pretty damn good. Once and Future is maybe a bit trashy, but the art is top tier, I find skeletons and armors hot and the premise of an evil racist King Arthur that comes back as a lich to turn reality into his own story (and get rid of all Anglo-Saxons) is hilarious.
A huge fan of We only find them when they are Dead (has everything I love, a great, artsy look, space mysticism, tons of mysteries, politics, beautiful color schemes and even a gay character and his god husbando) and Kill Lock (love dark stories about alien robots and one of them is a fucking templar that talks in German font).
Sadly these types of series are too niche so I never find anybody to talk about it. But if you like uncommon narratives and bizarre art styles you should give them a try.
No. 253225
>>250293i feel the same way. i don't even bother with gilbert's stuff because the way he draws women is so grotesque. locas has been a great inspiration to me in terms of its art style, and i like the characters for the most part, but certain arcs were just terrible, like when
maggie got basically kidnapped by some random dude twice her age in penny's mansion and then "seduced" him and almost ran away with him or when
hopey fucked tex and got pregnant with his child and then miscarried. what the hell was up with that
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RIP Aline Kominsky-Crumb
No. 264544
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what are some good Wonder woman stories written by women ?
No. 265781
>>264544Wondering doesn't have much good and acclaimed runs except Rucka and Wolfman, so I don't know of the rest is any good. Although Gail Simone wrote some of the books, and she is pretty solid author, although I don't see her stuff on any top stories ever lists, so idk. Also Wilson (of Ms. Marvel fame) wrote WW through 2018 and then some, so check this out top. Not sure if it's any good, but her Ms. Marvel surely was great.
Also Alex de Campi (a very prolific female writer, who amongst other wrote Bad Girls) also did a very short run on WW.
But in all seriousness, WW is generally pretty meh, outside of Rucka and Wolfman (and the later is not liked by all anyway, although I think his run is kino), so you better find some good stories somewhere else.
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>>265781I didn’t know how to break it to the anon that WW doesn’t have a lot of good stories in the first place let alone good stories written by women.
There’s Wonder Woman Earth: Historia by Kelly Sue DeConnick (she made Carol Captain Marvel) I didn’t check it out and haven’t heard anything about it.
Wonder Girl by Joëlle Jones was interesting because but idk if you’d be interested in it.
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the new wonder girl/yara Flor takes place outside of the Greek Amazons since she’s Brazilian
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what a slut
No. 288359
>>265781>Although Gail Simone wrote some of the books, and she is pretty solid author, although I don't see her stuff on any top stories ever listsI disagree. I feel like I see her arcs included in best of lists pretty regularly.
>>264544The Circle by Gail Simone. (Her whole run actually)
Wonder Woman The True Amazon by Jill Thompson.
I'm about to pick up and read the Becky Cloonan run, actually. I've been seeing it around and finally thought it looked interesting enough to get into (right as it's ending, ain't that always the way.)
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>>264544OT but Wonder Women has always been fascinating to me, She's literally one guys fetish(incorporated with his obvious bondage fetish and his pseudointellectuals views of society) WW as a concept should not work but due to to circumstances she's been pushed as feminist heroine for all women and feminists themselves essentially appropriated her and made her a symbol of women's empowerment.
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I finished reading this comic series called Les Nombrils (The Bellybuttons in english). To give it a good summary, it's about a girl in a toxic friendship (also kind of a satire of high school movies). It goes as you'd expect, but takes some interesting turns at the end. Only problem is how the writing of the women sometimes feels 'scrotish'
No. 294783
>>294759it was funny when it was just a slice ofnlife about girls being mean but it ended up being totally ridiculous with the
attempted murder and the guy secretly being a homicidal sociopath or some bullshit. like that was totally out of left field
No. 294916
>>294767I think Vicky
falls in love with another girl, but because she was in denial, the girl Vicky likes moves on, there's a guy who attempts murder, and this one guy accuses Karine of framing him for getting arrested for weed possession, except that she was actually the person who accidentally put weed in his car. The only person who realizes Karine was guilty was Albin, but he decides to keep it a secret and Karine doesn't suffer any consequences its surprisingly intense
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I happened upon Naughty Bits by Roberta Gregory and I'm very surprised I haven't heard about it earlier. The first issue has women biting off a man's dick and shitting on his head because he was defending Crumb, and there's a very negative character (Midge) whose inner dialogue made me feel much less guilty about my everyday thoughts. This was written in the 90s-00s but basically nothing changed, huge recommendation from me
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>>300373Looked up the author .
>Gregory was born in Los Angeles, California, to Disney comics writer and artist Bob Gregory.[9][6]>In 1971, she began college at California State University, Long Beach, where she was exposed to the feminist movement and comic influences such as Nanny Goat Productions members Joyce Farmer and Lyn Chevli. She contributed to her college humor paper until 1974, when she began her own Feminist Funnies.[6]>She moved to Seattle, Washington in 1989, where she resides to this day with her long-term partner, author Bruce B. Taylor. Though she chooses not to use labels with regards to her sexuality, Gregory is a long time participant in bisexual newsletter North Bi Northwest and other LGBTQ organizations.[19]so nepobaby and a spicy straight.
>The first issue has women biting off a man's dick and shitting on his head because he was defending Crumbyou could have mentioned this part as well, If someone told me this was some moid's femdom fetish comic I would believe it.
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this comic was kinda mediocre in story but the MC stuck with me for years. She's like the archetypal goth in my head
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Clubbing No. 300536
>>300525Nta but:
> Anon says: masturbation isn't feminist.> You: Are you saying masturbation is antifeminist?It's not either or, don't be purposefully obtuse just because you enjoy the comics, retard.
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Can anyone recommend something similar to The Eternaut and Mort Cinder? I want read more B&W comics and those two were sooo good.
I already read 2000AD classics like Judge Dredd and Rogue Trouper on top of that. Just love how crisp and pretty the inks are, so if there is a digital HD version somewhere out there, it's a big plus too.
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I've been into comics for a while, mostly non capeshit stuff. I tend to read a lot of autobiographical graphic novels and fantasy stories (IHF,SAGA,ETC). I actually started off very intimidated by western comics because I didn't know where the hell to start. I started off with Scott Pilgrim then eventually I fell way into anything by Brain Lee O'malley. Because I loved Scott Pilgrim so much I ended up finding "Snotgirl" and all of the sudden I was exploring the western side of the comic book store anytime I had the chance. Through the DCAU I am now captivated by DC lore so I've been trying to get into reading the actual comics. So I picked up and started reading the Batman and Robin floppies and Batman;City of Madness and I am so genuinely excited about getting further into these comics. I am wondering about what I should read next and if anyone else was reading the same stuff as me. Getting into western comics after avoiding them in favor of manga for so long makes me really regret it because theres so much stuff I like. I wonder how comics could be made more approachable for people who've never read them…Maybe if there was like, a shounen jump magazine but for comics?
No. 328380
>>327938Well, I started reading comics with IDW Transformers. All Hail Megatron was my first one. Before that, I had Scrouge McDuck comics as a 6 yo and sometimes I've got Spider Man comics from magazine stands. But my hobby started with Transformers and Star Wars EU comics. I mostly read it for the source material (duh, I liked SW and Transformers) but with time started appreciating comics as a medium.
Personally I read a lot of capeshit but I never was capeshit first reader if it makes sense. To this day I can't say I'm such an expert on Marvel or DC. Especially DC. I don't like Batman and ESPECIALLY Batfamily and it's like the biggest draw for people when it comes to DC. I think I really dig Wonder Woman but her line of comics is such a mixed bag. It's hard to be a fan of Diana cause we have like a dozen of runs that are so radically different it's almost weird.
With Marvel, I love a lot of their stuff. But I never was big fan of Spider Man or X-Men or Venom or whatever their biggest character is.
So yeah, I'm that person who is far more into comics than your average "I've read Watchemen, am I cool guys?" person but I lack more in depth knowledge of capeshit to be a true fan. Weird.
Indies are great at least. I can't see why people shit on comics when there are so much cool stuff released each week. I always have shit to read with all the back issues and new goodies coming out. Personally my favorite writers are Ed Brubaker and Jeff Lemire. Love me some crime/noir comics and Lemire is just perfect in every way. I was absolutely hooked with his Sweet Tooth and after that I read all his stuff. I actually consider him to be one of the top 3 American writers of this era of comics. Really.
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>>327775Pic somewhat related, I keked so much
No. 328937
>>328923Wondie truly peaked with Perez. Now everyone tries outdo it and invent new cool thing for her. I'm looking at Tom King's fresh run and silently shaking my head. Another brand new "you never saw Diana like that before!" garbage. And now with more signature King's musings about mental health! Barf.
And I absolutely hate this "manga vs comics" debate. If you want easy experience reading comics, just go with indies. Saga starts with issue one and goes straight from there. You don't need a convoluted reading order for that. But people still whine about "b-but muh mangoes!". STFU. It's all PR really. Comics were huge years ago, now they are not cool and anime is the next big thing. People would just read what is popular. It's the same with people complaining about AAA games being terrible but they will never give a good indie a chance. Why? Because all the cool kids play new Assasin's Creed and nobody plays fucking Project Zomboid even though the later is far more unique and imaginative.
So with comics people don't read them because nobody they know reads comics. Look at this very board. Nonnas would rather read some isekai villianess otome gaiden moe whatever webcomic that makes my head hurt. Don't take me wrong, I love manga. I don't dunk on people who love manga. But you get the idea.
Honestly I don't feel bad that my hobby is less popular. Maybe one day time will come and the readers will notice that American comics have a lot of great stories to tell that they were skipping for some reason. For now I just hope that the industry will stay afloat.
Also idk but I also always preferred comics more realistic art style over manga (even though some really great manga has some kick ass art).
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No. 330877
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Ive been reading blacksad. The artstyle is so gorgeous. It maintains the look of fluid, natural movement, even with the amount of detail it has. I like John Blacksad`s character so far.
No. 331574
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Is the comic book industry hard to get into? I'm trying my best to improve my art. I'm going to go to comic con and show my portfolio but I'm scared because my art has a lot of anime influence and that seems to be avoided by companies like DC and Marvel…I'm trying to find a more acceptable artstyle because DC is my dream company,I really want to work there. I wish there was a thread kind of like the "Western animation cows" thread for the comic book industry because it's seems so shrouded in mystery. Has anyone here worked in Comic books before themselves or is anyone also working on trying to break into comics.
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should i watch these if i kinda hate comics these days? used to be really into comics but they tend to annoy me now.
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>>332475I'm pretty
Trigger influenced, the best example I could give is that I'm like a mix of Par0llel and Gerph and Kill la Kill? It's animu inspired but also toony. It's in a weird phase right now because I've been trying to get a more realistic look.
No. 334605
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Anyone hear read "Laura Dean Keeps Breaking up with me" I ended up really enjoying it and want to pick up more comics like it. There were a few cringe moments but outside of the few there were it was good. I thought because Mariko Tamaki was writing it'd be bad because of the whole "I am not starfire" thing she wrote. I was shocked to find she could actually write decent characters.
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>>334605>I thought because Mariko Tamaki was writing it'd be bad because of the whole "I am not starfire" thing she wrote.Geez
nonnie, don't let pissboy DC moids color your narrative of this woman. Tamaki has been writing for comics before the Starfire controversy like picrel
No. 339329
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I feel as though the comic industry in america is run by absolute retards and it depresses me. Do you guys ever feel this way? Like we're always getting spooked with articles about the western comic market dying and about how the future of comic books is shaky and unsure…but to me it feels like the answer for western comics is very clear, like anyone with the ability to think would understand what needs to be done. I feel like I'm being driven insane, I know I'm being autistic but I was just talking to my friend about this and i am still pressed! She says the only entrance into comics is the movies and its hard to get into those now because the story has gone so far. I think live action movies are fine but have such a disgusting same-y feel with the same tired CGI, it's slowly turning people off and less people are going out of their way to see them. In my opinion comics should go the manga>anime route and attempt to mimic that pipeline, it works great for japanese comics I'm sure it'd work well for american comics too. I'm talking specifically about capeshit stuff, not indie works. Im just venting. What would you do to improve comic sales,anons?
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What the hell is up with Antarctic press? Is it where untalented artists have to go or something. Everything in their catalog looks like unreadable tripe. I was at my local comic book shop and ran into "Ninja High School" and it looked so strange. I thought it was just some odd local comic but I looked it up online and their catalog is kind of hilarious. Are they worth reading or are they as much of a joke as I perceive them to be?
No. 339682
>>339329Self contained stories. I'm tired of multiverse bullshit. I know comics already had that where-do-I-start-problem but I think multiverse movies just made it worse. It was fine when spiderman made an appearence in the x men, or when captain america met magneto and you know the drill, that was interesting and fun and they eventually go back to their city/universe to deal with their own problems, but now it's just too much, everyone exists in the same universe at the same time and everything happens at once, and every hero has to be impacted by whatever monster of the week is threatening the universe. It's overwhelming and even then, it still feels like it's the same stories over and over even when they try to overcomplicate things. It lost its soul, it isn't fun anymore, everything is too serious and the twists are old. And why do the writers think story end = death of the hero? I don't wanna see Peter Parker die, I just want to join an interesting adventure and see a satisfying ending.
Also they should stop the performative woke stuff in the comics, these people cancelling others on twitter are not reading comics. I'd love more gay/lesbian characters or black characters and more females but we can see the performative crap from miles, all while they ignore characters that fit the bill one way or another… "what if wally west was black and wolverine was gay and jon kent was bi"… perhaps get the black/gay/female heroes/villains that already exist and write them something new without trying to pander to a very specific demographic that doesn't care about comics? I don't want iconic characters changed but wouldn't mind to see new stories of old characters no one remembers anymore but it's a challange to these writers to give us something without making it all about the fact the character is gay/black/female, it's like they forget it's capeshit if the character is anything but a white straight man kek
Sorry for the rant, but it just makes me so angry how bad comics and capeshit movies are these days and it's the reason I don't touch superhero comics anymore, plus the art sucks and they write comics based on the movies now and it's insane to me
No. 339705
>>339682I see this in non-capeshit too, it's apparently so hard to make an original character or someone interesting. It's like meta-racist, only white straight males can be interesting and layered and everyone else is a walking checklist. Even the progressives believe this.
I think adult animations would be a better route for comic adaptions.
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>>339687Oh to be a mysteriously wealthy furry, thats the dream
No. 340645
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I actually really like the new Batman '89 issue.
No. 342630
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Shoutout to the nona who introducrd me to The Eltingville Club in the "help me find" thread i was the one who posted the pic to get the name. I'm reading the first issue and I encourage other nonas to do the same, it's pretty good. I have this theory that Josh has schizophrenia.
No. 342637
>>342633I literally understand 90% of the references, not everyone you dislike was born after 2003. Let me guess, you think references to shit like Xena or Soylent Green tooootally flew over my head because you're probably the one and only person in this entire thread to know about them? You act like you're special for being into a supposedly niche comic when really you're a dumb cunt who doesn't realize EC isn't nearly as underground as you think, and even less so with the ponytail man meme that just emerged and is directing thousands of people to the comic, cry about it.
Anon's insufferableness aside:
>Josh hears the TV say his name during the Twilight Zone marathon>could've been him tweakig from the pills but then…>a later chapter has him conversing with a TV show host across the screen>Bill does the same at the same time>only thing they have in common is glasses>Pete and Jerry don't have eyes as detailed>Pete has little dots for eyes and Jerry mostly closes his>notice how Bill and Josh always set shit off and lead to the stories'climaxes>Bill literally converted the two Mandom guys back into fandom and Josh got a mall cop to release him without consequence despite tearing apart 42 packs of Wonderbread>my guess is that those to in fact have some sort of powers, either that or there's paranormal shit or they're crazy>my guess is a Fanboy and ChumChum situation where the geeky boys eventually get powers, whether or not they realize>literally could be a reference to a work of fiction in itself if the theory leads anywhere as a cool easter egg No. 342639
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>>342638Because theories are now "headcanons", and the bitch calls ME a tiktok zoomer… But nah you're right, making theories of fictional works, what's gotten into me! It's not like it's part of fandom or anything…
>reeee can't you appreciate a fun comicAs if my theory somehow erases the jokes or makes them hit any different. It's just baffling that you can act so elitist about EC when you act exactly like the people it makes fun of.
Adding picrel for shits and giggles, hope you won't sperg out about that too
No. 342641
>>342640Bitch, everyone on here has Twitter, how the fuck do you think we get screencaps of cows' blogs? Doesn't make any of us twitterfags or trannies.
>trying to claim is trueYou do realize theories are hypothetical, and that's why they're called theories, right? I'm literally a new EC reader who's getting giddy thinking of what the issue could turn into next, sharing my thoughts on a board, only for some bitter sow to regurgitate the starterpack of gatekeeper slogans. My only actual headcanon about Josh that I refuse to let anyone deny is that
you're literally him.
Oh my fucking god I just realized the meme DID in fact make you sperg kek
No. 342644
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>>342641Also, it's a comic by nerds for nerds. It's not the big bang theory. The fact you are so retarded you cant understand a simple comic layout is also very concerning, because in no fucking panel is josh talking to a tv. He's talking to the host on the phone.
No. 342645
>>342644Kek the nerve of you calling me the retard. Fyi, it's impossible for Bill and Josh to be calling a host with their computers in the year the comic is set in, the signal would be too dogshit. Reminder that it's an era where Josh had his computer crash trying to download porn and the club uses VHSes. We see them cosplaying TWD in the next issue, which would mean they're at least in 2003, and if that's the case, then it's impossible that the host was able to keep the signal intact while running off to a different set (with the teddy bears). You're probably thinking:
>but a comic is supposed to be unrealisticWhich is why I'm speculating about a secret tv-brainwave power theory, because yes people are allowed to have theories.
>it's a comic by nerds for nerds, not the big bang theoryYou acting as if I haven't been in the scene for over two decades doesn't make you look cool, it just makes you look like a massive NLOG. But the worst part is that you haven't read the comic, because
>in no fucking panel is josh talking to a tvHe literally hears it say his name when he gets high with the boys during the marathon… Istg you watched the animated pilot once and decided to LARP as the characters. Let us know how the eventual titchop goes.
No. 342648
>>342646>It's concerning that you are so attention deprived and retarded.The projection kek. At least my goal was to share something and not just impose myself the way you did.
>go back to enjoying the simple things in life, like a cozy funny comic about retarded nerds when being a nerd was actually fun.I was until a bitter bitchlet got assblasted. Gonna go back to it and link my friends the comic since unlike certain people, I don't act like an entitled toddler about fiction I like and don't lose it when people don't consume it the exact way I do.
can't wait to get virtually george floyd'ed by jannies for defending myself(infighting retard) No. 342753
>>342685Samefagging to
>>342743 and my other spergings but
>"Shit post, sage that shit next time">"I DID sage, fatass. Are you high off your mom's stash or something?">"Shut the fuck up Bill, you're not the only one who can trace IP adresses. You think you're hot shit?">"Are you done being a mini-modding faggot, Josh?">"You're the only one who cares about this lesbo website's rules!">janny bans them both because they're moids>they beat each-other up the following day No. 342781
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>>342775Are you fucking serious? That panel is literally from the first issue. How about you explain picrel, anon? No checking. Make me laugh.
No. 342796
>>342789What, that they say Space Ghost is made to look stupid when really the people he hosts look stupid talking to an animated character?
>>342793Can you tell us when a sexuality theory was made? Better yet, how the theory is sooooo totally bad and wrong? Theories about fanworks were always a thing. Just because you entered the scene in 2020 and your only reference of other fans are tiktok zoomers doesn't mean that everyone is like that. I bet you were one of those people who saw MatPat upload theories back in 2012 and sperged in comments about how it's toootally weird and bad. Oh wait, clearly not since you have the mentality of someone who just recently decided to get into pop culture. Get real and realize there's an in-between to people who mindlessly read a comic and tumblrinas who treat it like the South Park fandom.
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>>342796>What, that they say Space Ghost is made to look stupid when really the people he hosts look stupid talking to an animated character? god, you are so retarded. And you were being so smug over getting all the jokes.
No. 342800
>>342793Samefag but…
>Josh thinks a TV talks to him, thinks God and the entire world are against him, makes elaborate plans to get back at everyone who wronged him 10 years later>"Haha he's totally schizophrenic, what a crazy boy, damn so unhinged"Enter anon
>"URGH those fucking ZOOMERS and how they FETISHIZE MENTAL ILLNESS with their fucking HEADCANONS REEE" No. 342802
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>>342797>clearly stated I understood most, not all>even stated it as 90% (but hey I'M the one who can't read apparently)Mfw i will never be an expert on a cartoon that aired from like the 90s to early 2000s. You are SO special and quirky and not like other girls anon, and you absolutely don't look pathetic for being elitist about a cartoon nobody gives a fuck about. You're truly super deep and intelligent!
>still incapable of explaining the panel I postedYou're not a clown, you're the whole circus. You'd fit right in the EC if you weren't a woman.
Reposted to include picrel, since anon conveniently dodged it
No. 342808
>>342804>acts smug about something she just found out through tiktokTVTropes, bitch. Let me guess, you've never heard of it and will assume it's zoomer shit kek
>her lack of reading comprehension leaks through every single one of her postsYou've been encouraged to explain and elaborate three times now and never did, gee I wonder why
>dead set on a retarded theory that's easily disproven by just reading the fucking comicIt isn't
>seethes when called outYou're the only one who's been chimping out because your special little comic is being read by people other than you, to the point another anon defended me, but you refuse to back down still
>meanwhile explodes in anger when someone proves her thery wrongShow me one instance. All you've been doing is throwing around accusations of shit that never happened. Just admit you're running your mouth pointlessly, contribute or fuck off
>just go watch the big bang theory anonHow about you go watch Rick and Morty? You'd fit right in, you're a pretentious NLOG tardlet who thinks she's smarter than everyone while just proving she's so autistic and out of touch that she views everyone as the kids she sees on TikTok. You don't adress any of the points because you're humiliated and keep repeating the same shit hoping it will bury the points you're so desperately trying to dodge. And all because I suggested the type of theory that's existed since the dawn of time, but apparently you can't make the difference between a "character hallucinates events" theory and woke headcanons. And the bitch has the audacity to claim I lack media literacy. Oh, and you still failed to contextualize the panel I posted TWICE within the EC lore. I've seen agressive anons before but none were as pathetic, damn…
No. 342810
>>342806>Show me one instance. All you've been doing is throwing around accusations of shit that never happened. Just admit you're running your mouth pointlessly, contribute or fuck offyou have to be trolling, i refuse to believe you are so retarded. Anons literally told you you are a retarded zoomer
>>342730 >>342733 that cant understand characters from an era you werent even born into did something you cant relate to, so you have to attribute it to some zoomer theory.
No. 342811
>>342810My theory is that something is off with the signal, leading to paranormal events with the town's electronics and people using them à la 5G theory. Apparently this concept completely cancels out all the comic's jokes and social commentary, because… reasons? Yeah I don't even expect you to make sense anymore. I'd say the one who doesn't get it is you, since the comic is mainly centered around calling out
toxic fans and the kind of retard who acts the way you do.
And you still didn't contextualiee the panel I showed LMFAO
No. 342812
>>342811your larp isn't funny, just beyond pathetic and tryhard.
>And you still didn't contextualiee the panel I showed LMFAOEvan Dorkin is the creator, it's not hard to understand you turbo retard. If you knew anything about Evan Dorkin or read his other works you would have known
>>342644 is a reference to him working on Space Ghost coast to coast.
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>>342812>reference to him working on Space Ghost coast to coastAnd? I read through the comic 2 days ago, you realize that right? You kept sperging about how I apparently don't get the story or references to pop culture if I didn't know this, so please explain, how is it integral to the lore? I can't wait to hear about how it ties in to the finale arc!
And lmfao you YET again didn't contextualize the panel I showed. I can't, you didn't adress a single point, you just kept clinging to the one anecdote you know about the creator as if it's somehow a win to one-up someone who is new to the comic about it. But then again, what the fuck do I know, I'm just a lowly peasant who didn't know Dorkin worked on a show he referenced. Not only does it change everything but it also just shows how BRILLIANT you are! Everyone, clap for anon!
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>>342811Nta but holy shit no wonder you’re pushing schizo theories you want something to relate to and projecting on a fatass fanboy is all you have. No the character isn’t schizophrenic, Josh isn’t talking to the tv he called the tv host and mentioned ordering from their catalogue because that’s what people did before online ordering was huge like how it is now. You’ve never seen a home shopping network or actually read/watch media from before you were born aside from looking through tv tropes and it shows
No. 342819
>>342817Never said there was any deep lore, I literally mentionned over and over that the theory doesn't interfere with canon and is a potential easteregg if anything. Not once was it disproven but you failed to show me the previous 4 times so I won't bother asking again. You're an insufferable braindead retard who thinks everyone who has the misfortune of coming across her is the typical caricatural zoomer, because lf course the fact I'm probably older than you is inconceivable to you. Yes, other women know pop culture, no, you're not exceptional. I had to look up like three references and two actresses in the totality of the issues, that's it. And if you think there's nothing wrong with Josh you're even more of a retard than I thought.
>>342818Oh great, another retard. If you had half a brain you would've realized I mentionned him doing this previously and that my issue is the change of TV set despite the signal being shit back then. Oh wait, you didn't catch that because you're just regurgitating what you read an anon say before you. It's honestly a statistical prowess that two illiterate cunts appear back-to-back like this, unless it's samefagging kek
>reeeee all you do is read tropesAh fuck you got me, yes indeed I only read through tv tropes, i never watch anything or read anything, i only ever go on tvtropes it's all i use ever (sarcasm, just felt the need to specify given your level here)
No. 342829
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i dont think she's baiting anymore anons, i think she's legit this mentally ill
No. 342836
>>342819How are you so schizo you can’t comprehend daily life in the late 80s to early 90s? Signal being shit back then wasn’t like that for everyone either. People would sometimes have separate components and antennas just for that issue and it was terrible in rural areas but a slightly shoddy signal doesn’t mean whatever schizo shit you’re pushing. Run off to twitter or wherever other ‘theories’ are seen as
valid by other zoomers so you can stop shitting up the thread here with schizobabble
No. 342840
>>342836>it was terrible in rural areasTake a wild guess as to where the fuck the boys live. And we are talking about a guy who can't even view porn on his computer without the whole shitbox crashing.
How about actually reading the comic before having an aneurysm about a paranormal theory?
No. 342845
>>342843Bitch please. I am not trying to fill any gaps. There aren't even any gaps
other than whether or not Mandy fucking survived. I am making a speculation about paranormal happenings, the equivalent of cryptids in GTA. Did you have a meltdown at people lookikg for Bigfoot in GTA and tell them it ruins the game? No, so what's the issue?
Worst I could do is, low and behold: share my theory, which I already did. Please find actual problems with the fandoms, like tumblrfags shipping Jerry and Bill or making them all gay.
No. 342848
>>342844Except they live in suburbs and it's the early 2000s. As someone who spent her youth in a suburb around that time: it takes an actual fucking minute for a website to fully load and calls are fucking cancer to suffer through, let alone webcamming, not to mention shit quality. The iphones don't make much sense either, everyone whipped one out at the store when a girl walked in (you'd think that at least someone would have a flipphone considering mfers use cassettes). There is more than one problem in that comic regarding technology and consistancy. But hey apparently you're the 90s-00s expert…
>>342846Not disproven, and if anything it's you getting angry. Noting suggests it's true and nothing suggests it's false, the TV show host incident is far from the only point supporting the theory. I don't care that some braindead cows don't like my theory, especially when they're defending shipping of fucking EC boys. Being fujo is one thing, tif-tier shipping is another. God and they call ME the tiktok zoomer, look in the mirror retard. No, shipping acne-covered teens who puke on people isn't cute.
No. 342868
>>342862Cheap bait. I've proven that I keep up with the comic more than anons arguing with me.
And even if you disregard my experiences, anons here are disregarding too many incoherences. You yourself conveniently ignored my statement about the iphones.
>What’s next the boys are troons because they like Star Trek and they’re short? Ah yes because fantasizing about paranormal tv wave adventures is (according to you) similar to tumblr headcanons. Nevermind the fact that I mentionned shipping and sexuality headcanons being trash like 2 responses ago! How about actually reading posts you try to argue against?
>Also shipping is atleast shown to be done in fun and not trying to bend canon to fit what they wantThere are no words to descrine how braindead you are. No really, you just won the retard olympics, you cannot make this up. You really just acted like shipping doesn't interfere with canon (not a single one of those guys is gay or bisexual) while making up a theory, - and acknowledging it as such, and even stating it doesn't mess with the canon at all since it doesn't retcon shit - interferes with canon.
And tbh I'd rather be reeed at for making a fun theory for myself rather than say embarrassing shit like you. The lack of self-awareness lmfao, the whole point of EC is to make fun of sperg fans, not all of them
>>342865Congratulations, you're the first person with a brain who responded to me. I'm actually unsure about this one. What you say is of course true but I don't know if it's possible to separate fandom from time period. I think around 2015 there was this big boom of normalization of pop culture, it all became extremely mainstream. I'd say sooner even, like post-2010. A fan in 2000 is way different than one from 2010, and both will be extremely different from 2020-era fans (especially after sjw gendie shit became the norm). Some things never change (like the misogyny kek) but most do, so I'm not sure if we can really consider the time period to be irrelevant. Comics themselves changed a lot due to this, I mean hell, the emergance of the MCU is proof. But that's a whole discussion in itself, anyone who isn't a NLOG sperg is welcome to debate here
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>>342868>anyone that calls me out on my bullshit is an NLOG sperg>proceeds to write autistic manifestos about how a sol satirical comic is ackshually super deep and has supernatural undertonesthis is why we must gatekeep nonnas
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>>342868>(not a single one of those guys is gay or bisexual)josh being bisexual is more canon than josh being some schizoid with denpa radio wave super powers
No. 342872
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>>342869>never said it was deep, i gave it the depth of an easteregg>i called the first anon an NLOG because she thought EC was niche>doesn't read a single one of my points and infights anyways for the sake of edgy gatekeeping of a comic that's semi-mainstreamWhere are tard wranglers when you need them
No. 342874
>>342871And you're the one who tells me I can't recognize a joke and look too deep into things? That panel is a joke. The joke is that gay = embarrassing and that he got turned off after the thought intruded.
I'm begging you tards to not turn this shit into the new Cartman x Kyle. We don't need another one
No. 342878
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>>342873> the fags that joined any comic discussion fandom in the 2020s with your paranormal schizo shit. No different than reddit tier analysis on a rugrats episode saying that they’re all in purgatory because they don’t ageSo you try to make a point by comparing me to 2020 tiktok zoomers, only to compare what I said to shit you'd see on the internet back in like 2012… Whatever you say, fujo anon. Still better than shipping acne having social rejects.
>Newfag can’t comprehend shippingMaybe my IQ isn't high enough tl grasp the depth of EC yaoi kek
Funny enough I was a fujo back in 2014. Only i actually grew out of it, unlike some >>34287EC was mainstream since 2016, and Dorkin joined Twitter to promote it that same year. Your obsession with tiktok zoomers is getting redundant, switch it up, start blaming trannies or something. And no dumbass, I call you an NLOG because you're desperately trying to gatekeep shit that spawns meme formats to this day. Every fandom has people like you, who think their favorite piece of media is so special until le evil youngsters find it, when in reality the fanbase was always there and you're just discovering it more because you choose to interact.
>>342876>no nuance according to youLearn to read dumbitch, I said several times it was for fun and that I don't consider it canon. Can any of you cunts read at all or is your memory just shitty?
>ackshually a super deep comic Repeating it a THIRD time now: it's an easter egg. I MYSELF saod SEVERAL TIMES it's not that deep. It's a theory I made up FOR FUN. Understand? Theory. For fun. NOT canon. Am I going too fast? Watch the next retard dismiss this entirely yet again…
>exagerated on some panels>some panelsReally? Some panels? Only some of them? Josh hands wrote this post istg. See picrel
No. 342879
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>>342872If you were a comicfag, you’d gatekeep. Look at what comics are now and see how all the shit you say you hate is on main line issues. Troon characters and gay ships being pushed to get praised as ground breaking then not making any money so companies shaft certain characters because they think they’re unpopular when really they’re just lumped into that shit and nobody wants to read it.
No. 342882
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>>342879But I hate trannies too though. Gatekeeping helps abolish sjw shit sure, but harmless theories aren't as bad as this absolute fucking joke here
>>342880I fucking wish. Nah the bat is a reference to picrel. They really fucking thought it would help them seem more normal and not like even worse MENaces to society. Exhausting. Batman doesn't eat pussy but apparently batman supports AGP scrotes…
No. 342884
>>342881Read the comic, brainlet. He's aggressive as fuck, has no social cues and is considerably more unhinged than the other 3, not to mention he's fat which in itself is a huge red flag and a sign of insanity. Stop trying to normalize this fuckery, i'm not saying he's schizo as in "uwu mental health representation", i'm saying he's schizo as in "holy shit this guy's nuts". Please grow up, not everything is tiktok shit
>>342883Because i figured that "theory" means "hypothetical", I sadly couldn't predict brainless attention whores forgetting what "theory" means so they could sperg out
>>342879I just found out that the Batgirl movie was gonna feature a hon to play Alysia and I couldn't be happier it's cancelled. While researching I came across the Nubia transwoman on Themyscira bullshit and I wanna punch something. Thank god I never cared about Nubia to read that shit. It doesn't make any fucking sense, at that rate any moid can "identify" as a woman and have free access to Themyscira. What, does the island work like the lasso and it can see into your heart to check if you're not a trender? But that's "truscum" mentality so it contradicts the wokeys who came up with that shit, since apparently merely suggesting trenders exist is transphobic. Therefore it doesn't fucking work, either the island judges via your biology or it can't fucking do it.
No. 342886
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>>342884>hes fat>he misses social cues>hes angry and more unhinged than the other 3>therefore hes a schizo because… because of comic panels exaggerating a fictional character meant to represent comic fans the author hates!!He is a MALE comicfag, of course hes fat and unhinged. Tiktokfags pull out the armchair and do the same shit you’re doing right now yet you think you’re different? Calling other anons NLOGs while you’re the biggest one here and being the physical embodiment of picrel
No. 342888
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>>342685Yeah, it's beautiful. I'm honored to be in time to witness EC autism [Live In HD]
No. 342889
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>>342885>>342886Sweet, two retards for the price of one. If I really was an armchair psychologist, I'd tiktok-diagnose ALL the boys since they're all unhinged and one even burned a store down. But no, I don't. Josh is considerably weirder than the other 3 and if you're too retarded to realize it it's probably because you act similar kek.
While I'm at it: I'm tired of tard-wrangling illiterate bitches so I came up with a full deconstruction of trans-inclusive Themyscira. If you see any loopholes please tell me, I want to make sure I have a correct debunk
>if the island rejects TiMs, normal people accept it but wokies won't>if the island is transmed, it's transphobic and anti-woke so neither wokies nore normal people will accept it>if it's similar only the island just requires you to be dysphoric, same thing>if it's tucute (for the luckily unfamiliar: people who think you don't need dysphoria to be trans) then the female-only security system is obsolete since not only can anyone identify as a woman, but also…There's some paradoxes that need to be adressed. What if a person is
>bigender? (Thinks theyre both a man and a woman) Does the island sink or not?>nonbinary? What happens to the island?>an amazon who suddenly troons out? Does the island suddenly sink?I know none of these things are real. But I just wanna point out how inclusive Themyscira cannot possibly work. Let's not forget women who think they're "men in a woman's body". Does that make the island sink or nah? I have a burning urge to ask the writers about this somehow. I won't do it because it's gay but I can't be the only one who thinks it'd be funny to embarrass them like that. Granted all it would do is have TRAs screech that "you spent all this time to debunk a comic lmao ur so obsessed" but idc, i want them to remember Themyscira is not for Themlets
No. 342891
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>>342890Look at this shit. It's established canon in that universe now, Barb has a tranny roommate and the fucker didn't warn her. The fact she didn't notice is more unrealistic than all of Batman lore
No. 342892
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>>342879>>342882>>342891troons really are a cancer
No. 342893
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>>342889not reading all that autism you will never enjoy peak /co/ autism EC club with the girlies, sad
No. 342898
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>>342891Wow, i fucking hate this. I hate this so much.
No. 342903
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The Boys is shit but i love this panel
No. 345635
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I’m so glad I read this comic. I wasn’t expecting to like it so much. The Marathon Men was my favorite chapter, especially the artwork on this page
No. 347061
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Is graphic novels allowed? Got recommended to read this graphic novel, and I avoided it because it had the lgbt tag. When I actually read it, it seemed like an innocent gnc boy who likes fashion paired with his seamstress but the author couldn't help but add some vague troon shit unfortunately. The funny thing is while he's not written like a lesbian larping agp, there's still way too many parallels to reality. Like him stealing a beauty pageant from natal women when he has no need for the prize as he's the fucking prince. This girl works herself to the bones to give him the most ~euphoric~ clothes he can wear. He fucking steals his mom's dress and gets no repercussion at the ending kekkk. There's even a scene where he admits being a prince has benefits, it's as if being a woman is only a costume to you that you can take off any time.
No. 347077
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>>347061>i wear boys clothes and look like my father>that doesn't feel right because i feel like a princessi haven't read this comic but based on that quote alone it sounds like he enjoy the benefits of royalty but he doesn't wanna deal with the responsibility of ruling a kingdom. Nitpick but the wording of this is weird. Princess is a title but here it sounds like he is using princess as in the fairytale archetype. "those days i feel like a woman" or "I want to be my father's daughter" would had sounded more natural imo. I doubt someone living in a vaguely renaissance inspired monarchy would had the same association with the word princess as we do.
>it seemed like an innocent gnc boy who likes fashionI looked it up and the author desribed him as genderqueer. There wore kings and crownprinces who where mocked in court for not living up to a manly ideal. A fairytalesque story that says there are no such thing as boys hobbies and girls hobbies, and a man isn't automatically a good person just because he likes war and sex could've been cute. Instead it's "this boy isn't really a boy because he likes dresses"
> him stealing a beauty pageant from natal women when he has no need for the prize as he's the fucking prince. This girl works herself to the bones to give him the most ~euphoric~ clothes he can wear.ugh, of course.
No. 347078
>>347077>Nitpick but the wording of this is weird. Princess is a title but here it sounds like he is using princess as in the fairytale archetype. It's a loosely medeival in name and aesthetics only. And pretty much modern with shopping mall and beauty pageants.
>but other interpretations of the character's relationship to their gender presented by the readers were also valid.Wow, I'm glad my head canon where he's just a straight man into fashion is canon, then.
I believe there are even kweer kids who hated the vagueness of this. He's too comfortable with being male to be fully kweer to them.
No. 347200
>>347103You can go read in comic aggregator sites like readcomiconline. Franco-Belgian comics like
>>226117 >>190509 are a good start.
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Has anyone read this? I've never met another person who has lol. I loved the series when I was younger and randomly remembered it and re-read the entire series poorly translated into english on some fuck ass website. It's so shallow and funny at the start but the story starts to get pretty complex out of fucking nowhere. God I fucking wish the authors hadn't broke up, the story was JUST getting good.
No. 351473
>>351435I'm seething because I wanted to see how the whole drama would end, I read this back then in /co/ during a story time, good times.
I re-read this not too long ago and I still think it's seriously nice how it goes from basic teen problems to murder mystery kek.
No. 351502
>>351473Vicky's whole character and her thing with Megane actually made me so sorry for her which was so unexpected when you consider her earlier on in the series. I love this series so much and I'm so sad it doesn't have a bigger fandom… The characters really have depth when you reflect on it, Karine and Albin are interesting too. Man I'm so pissed the authors went seperate ways and basically abandoned their project… you can't just leave us like that!! At least battle for custody damn!
>>351467I remember seeing Lou at my local library too anon! I might read it, I love these types of cutesie girl comics with weirdly fleshed out storylines
No. 351671
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Just finished Sleepwalk by Adrian Tomine! I loved it so much. It's a bunch of short little slices of people's lives, usually about loneliness. I like the format but I also found it a little frustrating, because the snippets were so intriguing I wanted more from every story and to see where the characters ended up. Favorite stories: The twin girls being taken to a comics convention by their hippie dad, and the woman who thinks she's being described in a Missed Connections section of the local newspaper.
Does anyone have recommendations for similar comics?
No. 352157
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Just finished reading "The Eltingville Club" because of the positive reviews in this thread and it was great! It made me feel like drawing a lot actually. The characters are people I've actually interacted with so it made me laugh a lot and had a big relatability to it. I'm checking out Milk and Cheese right now but if there are any other comics you guys really love and think are worth checking out lemme know. I also finished reading Beautiful Darkness, I liked the art so much and the concept but I did feel a little disappointed at the ending. I think I just wanted more! I've been reading a lot of comics and manga lately since I've finally learned to pirate properly. I'm just glad I don't have to waste shelf space figuring out if I like the comic or not and having a half finished collection because whatever I'm reading has fallen off for me.
No. 352313
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>>352157I used to read Milk and Cheese in my mum's old Deadline mags! I only realized it was the dude who did Eltingville recently.
No. 353961
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This is official art-btw.
No. 354071
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Any Green lantern enjoyers here?
No. 354265
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Absolutely unhinged queen
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No. 358501
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Mirka Andolfo's Blasfamous is out and it was a wonderful read, anyone else here read it yet?
No. 358760
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I bought a bunch of Real Stuff by Dennis P Eichhorn at a flea market for ridiculously cheap, what a fun read! I'm most impressed by the fact that Eichhorn was able to get so many insanely big names to illustrate his comics. Personal favorite was the one where he gets fatter and fatter to dodge the Vietnam war draft.
No. 406975
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…So it's been 5 months. I'm gonna bump this thread and make a proposal. Let's be honest. This thread failed. But that's okay! Why don't we make a new thread for Comic Book industry Cows. There are lots and yet no thread! We can talk about people like Magdalene Vissagio, Max Landis, Scott Adams! Maybe even influencers in the comic space. I'm shit at making threads but I could give it a shot. Unless someone with more experience wants to give it a go.
No. 407130
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i know you have good taste and don't like marvel, but what x-men comics should i read if i like toad? preferably newer ones but i don't really care, he's cute in every iteration. magneto involvement is a bonus.
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repost for better image crop,
does anyone have any controversial characters they like? i actually like jean-paul valley, even though his backstory is extremely retarded. but i found his relationship with cass cute and enjoyed how quesada drew him, very adorable. i hated his post-flashpoint redesign, and any plot he is involved in tends to be garbage. a shame.
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>>220345late as fuck but same, it's so ridiculous that an emotionally crippled loner such as batman would have an army of a dozen copy paste black haired blue eyed orphans. I hate how they're all wannabe dick grayson copies, even down to the point where their backstories are interchangeable (Jason originally having the exact same backstory as dick, Tim stealing Jason's new backstory and replacing him in btas, etc). Jason worked so much better when he was haunting the narrative as the boy batman couldn't save, only to be brought back as a nothingburger fangirl pandering thisttrap mess. I also hate how much of a sausage fest it is. Yes, Steph, Cass and Babs are supposed to be part of it but they almost always get ignored in favor of the much more boring male characters.
>>342879this is so cringe I legit thought it was a tranny edit until I googled it. bleak.
>>407332same, nona! I've only read his comics with Cass since I'm a cassfag, I expected him to be boring/retarded but was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed his character and their relationship, very cute.
also, am I the only one annoyed by how much of a hateboner gen z wokies have for Devin Grayson for writing for Nightwing 20 years ago? She's like their personal JKR/female hitler. all over "muh husbando getting sexually assaulted!!!" … I actually read her Nightwing run to see what the big deal was and just as I expected, nothing more
problematic than your average comic. the "sexual assault" they all claim she's fetishizing and self inserting herself into is extremely tame and handled with infinitely more tact than any other SA depiction in comics. No ripped uniform at the tits or ass, no coomer shit and way more decency than any female character has ever gotten while being assaulted. If she actually wanted to fetishize Dicks assault, she'd have taken the opportunity to make the male character known for his fat ass get assraped by another man. Oh, they also hate her for calling it "noncon" instead of rape in an interview 20 years ago kek…
Fangirls have gone as far as to accuse her of changing her name to Grayson because she was so obsessed with Dick, which if true is pretty milky but I didn't find any proof of it. either way I cant bring myself to give a fuck when most comic writers are retarded womanhating neckbearded pedo scrotes, I'm grateful women get to be writers for DC at all and I hate how retarded wokies only care about muh husbando being depicted having a fat ass once or twice but never care for the downright dehumanizing misogyny and vile objectification female characters face. picrel is the vile rape depicted in her comics all fandomtards cancelled her for.
No. 407773
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>>407732i'm glad i'm not alone with liking jean-paul, i did actually just read his miniseries from last year and i really did enjoy it. i think a superhero who is a little bit delusional and kind of a religious fanatic is pretty interesting, and while most of his backstory is stupid, cult brainwashing is pretty real and i like to watch him struggle with it. cismesija isn't my favorite artist, but jean-paul looked cute in it anyway.
i 100% agree with everything you said about dick grayson, too, and i think there is far more horrific assault scenes towards female characters than male characters. aside from dick, how many other male superheroes have been raped? apollo from wildstorm? i don't think its that big of a deal, and is it even canon anymore? he should have been raped by slade or blockbuster and then i would have taken the scene more serious, but dick fans are very weird and protective over him.
No. 420503
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WAKE UP COMIC THREAD I WANNA SAY "FUCK YOU" TO ALAN MOORE. I was watching a Youtube vid and someone mentioned Mr. Hyde raping the Invisible Man to death from "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen". I was intrigued, so I dragged my sorry ass through those parts of the comic. (I'd never read it 'cause it looked too tryhard and proto-steampunk and almost no one nowadays can even match H.G. Wells.)
The main female character (the "leader" of this little group of weirdos) gets raped, barely even copes with it, then immediately gets paired up with this old, wrinkled faggot in picrel. (And of course she has a nearly-flawless body but the artist goes out of his way to depict the old guy with old scars, saggy ass, wrinkled like a baseball glove, etc.) Fuck Alan Moore. What an unlikeable piece of shit. Can't believe I even devoted two seconds of my time to reading this drivel.
No. 420506
>>420503Everytime a male recommends me him I know his ass can't be trusted and he don't know shit about shit. He is the call of duty of comics for me, opinion is immediately discarded. It's absurd the amount of men that rec him while completely disregarding your tastes, nah just read the master. Master of your aborted ass. I'm sorry about this rant but it makes me angry how many times I've heard his name when getting recs from males or seeing him being mentioned when other people asks for recs, they read any shit just because other males tell them trust me bro, bro trust, bro yeah bro. Absolutely no personal taste, they all read the exact same people, the exact same comics. It's the same with Neil Gaiman, ooh all praise The Master, dude his time is gone. Fucking hell, like you just read anything because it got his name attached? And there is also that other bald edgy faggot that loves writing I-am-still-14-I-hate-woman offensively bad edgy crap, I can't for the love of me remember his name, my mind just erased everything about him and his works but the hate I feel for ever having to subject myself to one of the worst reads of my entire life still remains.
Faggotry after faggotry made me not enjoy comics anymore. It's always either violently hating women or wokely hating women. I hate these men are still held up on a pedestal.
No. 420914
>>420506AYRT, I can relate to this a lot. Fortunately I wasn't old enough to read this crap or watch the movie adaptations of them. And god, after discovering it now, I'm so glad. What an embarrassing load of shit writing. Especially "League", it's got that same "this isn't how people talk"-style of dialogue writing. Alan Moore is a socipathic misogynist and I'm glad he's falling out of favor.
>>420799I would love that kind of a thread. I know very little about comics, or the cows that create them.
No. 420972
>>420506>that other bald edgy faggot that loves writing I-am-still-14-I-hate-woman offensively bad edgy crapFrank Miller? kekkk
The thing is that i prefer Miller because his art is really nice and has something Moore's commissoned artists don't. I always found it weird how Moore was praised when he doesn't actually
make his comics, in a visual medium. Plus it makes Moore fanboys seethe when you prefer the
wrong old fart in comics ('b-but Moore's writing!' 'Moore is a cute woke old sage!')
No. 421004
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>>420506People put him on a pedestal because of Watchmen and V for Vendetta. But that doesn't put him above criticism, and I think most people would agree that his writing peaked in the 80s. I read Fashion Beast a while back, and while it was okay, it definitely didn't have the je ne sais quoi of his stuff from the eighties. Some of the ideas were cheesy, and it's probably good that it ended up being a comic book instead of a movie (as it was originally intended.)
No. 421012
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>>421005admittedly, i enjoyed some of his work on the authority, especially midnighter. while edgy, it never went as far as the boys, and it helped that midnighter and apollo are genuinely likable characters. i did hate his character kev, but he would just get beat up by the two gay guys at the end of each of the volumes featuring him, so i was alright with him. it was just a sort of self aware, cartoonish and weird in a way that serviced the characters, but without letting him go too far like in his other work.
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this was a real tweet from zack snyder that he was forced to delete
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>>422446late response but grant morrison came out as nonbinary not too long ago, but he's always been a crossdresser/transvestite and has been mentioning that in replies to fans since his doom patrol run, where he had a character who was a fusion between a man and woman and was referred to as "s/he" as a unique pronoun. rebis is a pretty great character despite it, but in his recent work his new trans characters and how he writes gay characters has been annoying me, or at least how he handled them in superman and the authority. terrible comic.
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Ive watched a few episodes of nu X Men 97, and now I'm interested in the comics. Most of the comics that I read before were indie, so I'm confused on where to begin. What comics should I start out with?
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reread JLA: a league of one and while it is a bit of an odd story, the art is so mesmerizing and its very refreshing to see wonder woman treated as a threat, especially against batman. she always works better with mythological and fantastical stories and i love how strong she is in her morals and belief in herself. it makes me almost angry to read something with so much love put into the art and her character, only for DC to give her current title to tom king, who already said he doesn't give a fuck about her. trinity is embarrassing as well, and steve trevor needs to be put to rest.
No. 424023
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Finished reading this series. The art was what drew me in, and I have to say it's always been consistently good. The 1950s noir setting made for a fun read. I might look into more stuff illustrated by Greg Smallwood later in.
No. 424150
>>424023Greg Smallwood is a good artist and this comic has been on my radar but seeing King attached to anything worries me
>>423984Wonder Woman is such a bizarre character. You can't name a lot of iconic stories for her
No. 424153
>>422446It took him way too long to jump on it lol
He's the exact person you feel would be into it like it's not even surprising.
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>>424023i love greg smallwoods art, and i love how he drew all the characters faces (especially fire and ice), but kings writing really held the human target back for me. he really has a habit of ignoring past characterizations to fit his needs, which can be fine sometimes, but here i felt like he took it too far. definitely carried by the art.
>>424150>You can't name a lot of iconic stories for herto be fair, she has had a very horrible history despite DC upholding her as part of their "trinity." she was treated like a side character until george perez revitalized her in the 80s, and gods and mortals is an amazing comic book. she does not have her own editorial branch and is instead included under supermans, whose head editor eddie berganza would serially sexually assault any woman that worked there and was only just fired in 2018, and wonder woman suffered as a character in that environment as well. DC doesn't allow many artists to even draw her tall or physically imposing, and artists such as dwayne cooke had to argue with them to allow him to draw her a similar height to superman and batman (she is also fantastic in the new frontier). aside from the three i already mentioned she has plenty of incredible and well received comics and runs such as hiketeia, dead earth, historia, JLA: golden perfect arc, the hypothetical woman, manhunter, wonder woman by phil jimenez, ect.
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>>424189You seem to have strong opinions on Wonder Woman.
How do you feel about her carrying a sword and shield? I know some fans hate it because it goes against the core of what they feel wonder woman is, I'm sympathetic to that
But other characters have changed as comic book era changes as well. So I don't see why not, could just be her "modern age" version I guess.
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>>424546>You seem to have strong opinions on Wonder Woman.i do. i love her as a character, and i think she deserves more respect.
>How do you feel about her carrying a sword and shield?diana has been using a sword and a shield for nearly 50 years at this point, its not something new. it connects to her greek background and the amazons status as warrior women. she has used spears, battle axes, even a chainsaw at one point. i don't mind this, however, i believe that the sword and shield are being overused, and often utilized for reasons i don't agree with. recently, i feel that they use her sword as a means of separating her from batman and superman, in order to establish that she is a
warrior who is more than willing to use lethal force. geoff johns having her claim that she kills most of her rogues gallery, for instance, or the shit show that was azarello's run, has really harmed a lot of peoples perception of her and the amazons very aggressive, strike first type of fighters. there has been a big push to establish her as very warlike, and it pays no respect for her and the amazons rivalry and struggle against ares. diana is a pacifist first and foremost, and her cuffs and lasso should be treated with the same respect and iconography as batmans utility belt and batarangs, not something outdated, since every writer need to stop trying to reinvent her any chance they get, thank you.
what do you think, nonna? i know this conversation has been popular again with the reveal of the absolute wonder woman design.
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>>423983I would say it kind of depends on what you're looking for.
The definitive X-Men run is Chris Claremont's, see picrel. It's very good and set the standard for all future X-Men writers. However, it's very long, kind of confusing to read in order, written in a more old-fashioned style, and a lot of '97 characters won't be introduced until you're very far in. (Rogue, Gambit, and Jubilee in particular)
The show is based on the lineup of X-Men vol. 2, so if you specifically want something close to the show, I'd start there.
Another option to start off with is New X-Men, which is more modern and generally an easier read than some of the older comics, but it can get weird sometimes and you probably won't be familiar with some of the characters.
You could probably also start with the new X-Men: Rise From the Ashes era, which just started up a few months ago so it should at least be easy to get caught up with, but I haven't had time to read those yet so I'm not sure how accessible they are. (X-Men vol. 7 and Uncanny X-Men vol. 6)
Whatever you end up reading, I hope you enjoy it, nonna!
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now that absolute superman has released, i have to say i enjoyed all three of the first issues of these series, and i'm very excited for absolute martian manhunter. absolute wonder womans design is metal as fuck and i love her height, i was afraid of how they were going to meddle with her personality and backstory but she stays true to the diana i love. while i'm not the biggest fan of her obviously-inspired-by berserk sword, but i enjoyed the witchcraft aspect of her powerset, as well as her relationship with circe. baby diana was too cute as well.
absolute batman was very fun and had a campy charm to it with his shenanigans, and i always love a young bruce. he almost feels a little too similar to spiderman so far, but i'm excited to see more from him. personally, i do feel that they chickened out on him being a school shooter survivor (or were censored by editors) by building up his father being a public school teacher and him being a student of his, but i understand why they didn't do it.
finally, absolute superman releasing today was crazy timing. it definitely added a layer to the story, just make it a little hard to swallow. i like this younger, smaller version of kal-el and i'm very excited to see more of him, he is very raw and had a quiet sweetness to him i always find intriguing in male characters. not sure how i feel about his suit and the AI aspect of it, but i'll just have to wait to read more. any other nonnies reading the absolute comics? if so, what do you think?
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>>430189I think it's interesting just how much people like these interpretations of the characters—I think it might speak to some increased recent desire for working-class heroes. (Or maybe it's just that mainline DC sucks shit right now. Who knows.)
I haven't read much of Snyder's work, but I noticed he primarily wrote for Batman, so I was pretty nervous how he would be writing the other Trinity members, but I've been pleasantly surprised thus far.
Circe and Diana's mother-daughter relationship was very sweet and I was excited to see that even though they gave her a big sword, she's still a compassionate, protector figure first and foremost.
I'm not super familiar with the Superman mythos, so Krypton being treated as a flawed, even downright cruel place felt really fresh and unique to me, even though it might not feel that way to anyone else. (I'm not a huge fan of the AI in the suit, though, it feels a little too Jamie Reyes and Khaji Da to me, but they have time to sell me on it.)
In general, I'm glad they didn't take the easy way out and generally maintained the core of the character in a different setting. They still felt like the heroes I love, just under different circumstances, which is something I often feel like Elseworlds struggle to pull off.
Oh, and Batman was probably good too but my bat-fatigue is too severe to really process his comic.
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>New Harley Quinn a mini-series centred around her farting, with smell-able panels.
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Finished the Cull yesterday.
Would recommend it! It has it's moments, the artist is very talented. I didn't always liked the character designs, it gets better toward the end. I really hope they'll continue the series.
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Any Sandman fans can chip in?
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Has anyone here read Dykes to Watch Out For by Alison Bechdel? I can’t believe I didn’t read it earlier. The later strips had a bunch of trans stupidity but I still enjoyed it overall. Mo and Sydney are really funny and a great couple.
No. 471835
>>468319Like others have said, their non-canon work is usually good. Usually niche or characters with a smaller following also have the occasionally good comic but I think what really messed DC up was that dumb 5G plan Didio wanted.
That's why certain dumb changes stuck and haven't been reversed (eg: aging up Jon). I'm not an avid Didio hater and the man has occasionally pushed for unpopular ideas that eventually did work out (mainly Jamie's Blue Beetle tbh) but his disdain for legacy characters, arguably something DC does 100% better with less tension than Marvel, caused so much stagnation. But then his weird 5G plan fucked with so many characters and now since Didio is gone idk if DC will bother reversing some stuff.
It's kind of hilarious how much this event messed up so much of the main storyline. Almost every single bad or mediocre story can be traced back to the failed 5G initiative.
It sucks because pre-new 52 DC was basically ready for whatever Didio wanted to do in terms of pushing the older characters and focusing on younger gen. But introducing a zillion new characters out of the blue while other characters are exist aimlessly isn't a good move.
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>>424571NTA
I haven't picked up Absolute WW but I can't decide if people like the run because, from what I can tell, it has veryy strong elements of "oh I understood that reference!!1!!". While it's obvious that her run is more successful than Superman's and Batman's it feels idk not as risky?
Anyway none of this means much because my judgement is based on reactions and random panels. I'll read it very soon so I can have an actual worthwhile opinion instead of kneejerks.
What do you think nonna??
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From the Harley Quinn fart comic
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Thoughts on Silver Sprocket? I didn't know who the hell they were until Catboy was recommended to me at my local comic shop, though I didn't pick it up. I looked into them, I watched a video of their office tour and…I loved the idea of a publisher that's also a comic shop, serving as a hub for local artists. It sounds incredibly nice to me, a person that wants to make comics. But I also came out of it not wanting to read anything from them. They seem like huge sjw's and I can't imagine that they publish anything other than gendie slop. It made me sad because a lot of indie spaces are like this. Obnoxiously spicy straight,quirky,sjw populated. It's so sad because the ideas behind it are so wonderful.
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>>475351I was really shocked to see the writer for this was an actual woman (tho the editor is a TIM… and also the son of John Turturro lmao). picrel, from her own website, makes me believe Starer specifically has this disgusting fetish.
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>>479332no, i agree. they are hollow copycats of other comic artists who did the "depressed self-taught outsider artist comix" thing which used to be punk and DIY and is now just a bunch of spoiled losers drawing their fursonas being wacky and gay
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So, I did a little research on "Arianna Turturro", the son of John Turturro and I had no idea his father played Falcone in the batman 2022. I wonder if he started working at DC before or after his father began working on The Batman. Any anons got more info on him and any other nepo babies working in the industry. I'm noticing them more and more lately.
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>>479780He's such a brave,
valid woman. Surely, full of amazing talent.
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>>479832so he just looks for typos or something. lol. i love john turturro, this is sad. reminds me of JLC's son, poor talented actors with their ugly tranny kids
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I'm reading Invincible right now and I'm on chapter 87. Oliver is really cold towards humanity in this comic. However, in the show, it was shown that he had human friends as a kid. So this doesn't really make sense to me. How could he not care for humanity while he used to have human friends? Was this just a change made in the show?
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They should do an adult cartoon adaptation of this comic. It could be adult swim's next big hit after rick and morty.
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>>442574Nonna I read this because of you and it heavily reminded me of Annihilation, which I loved! Some of the characters didn't react reasonably
("it's okay that my mother killed herself because your little brother went missing, therefore I need to keep coddling you") and the ending was quite predictable, but then again the author only had 5 issues to work with, so I suppose that's to be expected.
It was still a lovely 1 hour read, thanks for the rec.
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