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No. 247993
>Homestuck is an Internet fiction series created by American author and artist Andrew Hussie in the first half of the 2010s. Its plot centers on a group of teens who unwittingly bring about the end of the world by installing the beta version of an upcoming computer game, Sburb. A thread to discuss Homestuck, Hiveswap, and other MSPA stories.
Try to limit discussion of the drama surrounding HS^2. It's bad, everyone knows it's bad, let's focus on the good stuff instead. Or the less bad stuff. It is Homestuck after all.
Starter questions:
>Favorite characters? flashes? songs?>Fanfic recs/fanventure recs>OTPs? NOTPs?>Opinions on the vriskcourse?Homestuck^2 /snow/ thread:
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Starting off. I feel like I'm about to be banned for bringing up Homestuck.
>Favorite character?
Jade and Terezi have always been my favorites since I read it in middle school. Hussie has many faults but at least his female characters are allowed to be weird as fuck, I honestly think seeing Terezi eat chalk at my young impressionable age altered the course of my life somewhat. Probably for the worse.
>Songs
Caliborn's side of Cherubim, and all the Tensei tracks.
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I remember MSPA being discussed in the western comics thread, but I think it got lost during the /m/ wipe. Also, it was mostly for capeshit and I imagine the capeanons didn't like having to share a thread with Homestuck spergs. Anyway.
>Favorite character
Dirk. I could write an essay about the ways in which the post-canon garbage screwed up his characterization.
>Song
Another Jungle or Infinity Mechanism. Ugly Betty and Umbral Ultimatum, too.
>Fanfic Recs
Detective Pony by Sonnetstuck, Promstuck (because it's a classic.)
>OTPs
I'm bland, I generally only like things that were hinted at in canon. John/Roxy, Dirk/Jake, Dave/Karkat, Rose/Kanaya. Used to hardcore ship John/Karkat when I was like 14.
>NOTPS
Uuh I can't really think of anything off the top of my head, aside from intentionally offensive joke ships like Dirk/Kanaya or John/Dad or whatever. I wasn't thrilled when Gamzee/Terezi became canon, but that's mainly because I fucking hate Gamzee.
>Vriscourse
Dislike 90% of what they did with her in act six. I really liked her before that, though. Honestly, the real discourse these days isn't Vriska, it's the retcons.
No. 248007
>>247997I don't think so. For pespective, here are some threads that jannies have allowed:
>Husbando Smell Identification Thread>Capybara Worship>Ideal Penis Size>People Who Have Punchable Faces>The Game Thread>How to Summon a Hot Demon Boyfriend?>Ex-Lesbian Thread>Jermafag, Paul Dano, and Adam Driver threads>Am I a Munchie?>Femdom Weeb Thread>Lolcow Prayer Requests>Attractive Guerrillas Thread>How Do I Know If I'm a Lolcow?>2D You Fap To>Why Children Should RebelI think if those threads are allowed to stay, we can have this one, anon.
No. 248021
>>248007omg i miss capybara worship…
anyway to keep on-topic, i like homestuck and was at one point obsessed with it but its something i categorically can't recommend to anyone. it's so unique, has some amazing characters and concepts and there's nothing else like it, but can i genuinely sit there and say its worth reading the whole thing? quality wise to me at least it drops off some time after the beta kids are introduced
No. 248022
aw this is nostalgic.
>favourite characterechoing
>>248006, was a huge dirk fan (and cosplayer and essentially kinnie). also loved rose, vriska and terezi. was a bit of a solluxhead earlier in the comic.
>song suburban jungle, umbral ultimatum, CRYSTAMANTHEQUINS.
>fanfic recstheatre of coolty.
>otpsvrisrezi numero uno
>notpsdirkjohn always struck me as retarded and ooc. any polyship. rosejade.
>vriscourseghost vriska sucked outside of canon vriska gay activities. endgame vriska was wasted (my dream vriska endgame: she should have used hussie (after defeating him in the collide fight) as a mind control flesh pawn to deliver the suicide bomb juju to lord english, then killed gamzee in an extremely boring and unimpressive way (think single stab wound to the chest). then i would have wanted her to have married terezi, and then to have gotten divorced from terezi, and then to have remarried terezi, etc). nearly all of vriska pre act 6 was swagg
>>248021its genuinely not worth reading for your average joe, tbh. its an incredible, unique, bizarre piece of media but i think the time to read it has past, if that makes sense. i dont mean just in the sense that theres not really a fandom anymore, though that definitely contributes. its something more intangible. in my opinion youre better spending your time doing something else these days.
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>>248022*passed not past. mfw time. anyway picrel vriska and terezi both alive and married watching an innocent thunderstorm on earth 2 together.
couldnt be fucked changing vriskas outfit and anyway i like her hair as alternate vriska better… No. 248027
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>Fav char?
I used to really relate to and self-insert as Karkat for some reason. My reading comprehension was at an all time low in my Homestuck years, so I can't actually tell you if my preteen self was at all similar… but I really liked him! I still think he's cute and funny, I love fanart like picrel where he looks fluffy and soft.
>OTP
Davekat of course, I'm a sucker for enemies to lovers. I stopped caring during the Gigapause so their relationship becoming canon didn't do anything for me, but it was still nice to see! Meanwhile my crackship was Dirkkat just because I had a crush on Dirk kek. And I was one of the four people (total) who was obsessed with Erikar. I had every single piece of fanart of them saved in a folder I hid in my program files.
>Fav flash?
[S] Descend still gives me chills. I also love the Saviour of the Dreaming Dead portion of Cascade, probably because….
>Fav song?
…. Saviour of the Waking World, hands down. After seeing it in the flash, I looped it for months. Also Pumpkin Party in Sea Hitler's Water Apocalypse, Snow Pollen, Love You, and Princess of Helium. The One Year Older and Mobius Trip and Hadron Kaleido albums as well.
No. 248059
>>247993I need more homestuck fanart that isn't memes
>favorite characterAranea. Smart, talkative, and a bookworm, but her ego led to her downfall. She's one of the most memorable characters in the comic. Tied with her is Caliborn because he is gut-busting funny. I hated the second half of the comic, but these two characters improve it.
>favorite flashGame Over, funny and heartbreaking.
and then it got reconned so it didn't really matter..
>vriskcourseAnything after Homestuck's ending is not cannon. I hate how the wiki integrates that stupid fanfiction.
No. 248061
>I could write an essay about the ways in which the post-canon garbage screwed up his characterization.please do!
>>248022I would have loved to see your vriska rewrite in the comic, that's something she'd totally do. But no we have to have an out of place animated cliffhanger ending
>>248060same
No. 248071
>>248027I also self-inserted as Karkat a ton. It wasn't something I'd ever done with other media, and I haven't done that since.
DaveKat was also the closest I'd ever come to being a shipper. Maybe I was just the perfect age for it, but I have never felt so strongly connected to a character since, either.
Man, there really was something special about Homestuck. I had watched and drawn some fanart for MLP:FiM before, but otherwise Homestuck was my first fandom.
I tried to get into Steven Universe and some other smaller fandoms after Homestuck kind of died, but I never found anything that actually made me want to engage with the increasingly shite state of fandom.
>>248030When I was in 8th grade, I made a civil war reenactment music video set to that song.
No. 248081
>>248059>I need more homestuck fanartmay i introduce you to the MSPA Booru. it's heyday is long gone but theres still a few active users uploading and the archives go back to 2013 or so.
https://mspabooru.com/>>248071>When I was in 8th grade, I made a civil war reenactment music video set to that song.KEK we need more embarrassing middle school stories. in 7th grade me and a friend changed all the computers in the apple store of the mall to the homestuck front page. i feel so so bad for the workers, i know i'm going to hell over it.
No. 248083
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Here's a question: are (or were) you more into the human kids, the trolls, or both equally?
I was always partial to the humans, and as I get older they're the characters I remember most fondly. Karkat is the most "human" of the trolls, which is probably why he's my favorite.
No. 248090
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I read HS during the height of its popularity while I was in highschool, but I admittedly skimmed the majority of it to get to Act 5 to meet the trolls and therefore only had a surface level love for it just so I could be a part of the fandom. At the end of 2019 I decided to sit down and really read all of it, and it's genuinely something I've come to love (I half jokingly/half seriously try to push my friends to read it lol) and it makes me sad I missed out on all the good early fandom days. I'm really sad I got rid of my Heir of Breath hoodie now.
>fav character
For humans, all of the beta kids (and Dirk) are my favorite. For trolls, I used to like Gamzee but as an adult I really like Nepeta and Karkat. I hated Tavros before and I still hate him now.
>fav songs
Moonsetter, Derse Dreamers, Hier Transparent, Beatdown, Unite Synchronization, Ascend (credits), and probably a couple of others I can't think of off the top of my head right now. Pesterquest has a lot of good songs too, I love the kid's themes and Dirk's ultimate theme.
>otp
Dave/John, Rose/Kanaya, and Gamzee/Karkat are my top favs. I do not acknowledge the epilogues or H^2 lol.
I didn't really care about Vriska during my first read through (only cared about Gamzee tbh kek) but during my second read through I really wanted to like her. She's basically a textbook example of the type of character I like, very selfish and a huge asshole, but she was just… ok.
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>>248081Here's another cringe story of mine:
When I was 14, I found a Baby Dave taped to the wall of my high school. I fell in love with the idea, so I drew a bunch of Baby Daves on the backs of printouts I didn't need so I could post them around the school too.
Here's the kicker: I didn't own a pair of scissors, so I used a ballpoint pen to trace over the outer lines over and over and over until so much ink seeped into the paper that I could just tear the baby out. I did this in every class every day for over a week and probably left around 30-40 somewhat demented-looking baby daves around my school.
Also, I was far from being the cringiest homestuck kid at my school. I knew these two girls who would cosplay John and Davesprite (body paint included) on random Fridays and "gaybait" very publicly during lunchtime. Surprisingly, the Davesprite cosplayer turned out pretty normal, but the John ended up trooning out and has been a neet since graduating.
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This thread is making me want to go full cringe retard and cosplay godtier Jade.
No. 248094
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Any other friendsim fans here? Original Homestuck is still where the core of my love for this series is, but I was pleasantly surprised at how fun the friendsim mobile game was, I loved the overarching meta plot and a lot of the characters were fun (yes a lot of them are woke-bait I'm chosing to ignore that right now). After reading all of the routes I tried pesterquest but it felt weird to see the og characters in that sort of content, so I only read John's and then never touched the rest of it. I think it was a good idea to have more Homestuck that WASN'T a continuation of the original; there is so much interesting lore and worldbuilding, the original cast has their ending, it was more fun to see extra content of Alternia in a fresh way.
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>Favorite characters?
Sollux, Eridan, Karkat, Meenah, Mituna
>Favourite songs
Cherubim, Love You and Hate You, Crystalmethequins, Clockstopper
>Fanfic recs/fanventure recs
Dunno, I was more of a cringe RPer who wrote myself than a fanfic enjoyer, so much fanfic was too ooc for me to enjoy
>OTPs? NOTPs?
I'm Erisol and Crotuna trash. Johnroxy was nice, Davekat was neat but so was Daverose. I didn't like Arasol or Solfef and Crokri was the one tag I blocked back in the day out of sheer hatred
>Opinions on the vriskcourse?
I thought Vriska was a neat, flawed charatcter until Vriskagram. Then I hated her and I still don't like her to this day. That's still by far my most hated flash, nothing else compares. But then I never read HS^2 so there's probably a lot worse by now.
No. 248098
>>248083I can't decide, both are really good in their own ways. The beta kids make me feel really nostalgic but I like the dynamics that the trolls had with each other, and it opened up a lot of interesting worldbuilding (by which i mean opportunities for ocs and self inserts)
>Opinions on the vriskcourse?I think she was an interesting character, but if she were a man then everyone would be falling over themselves to pity her and her tragic backstory. I think they exploited the discourse around her too much in all the post-Homestuck media and that's when she became more annoying than anything.
>>248094I played a few routes back in high school and I liked it! They were silly and low-stakes and I think that's what made them work. It's unfortunate that HS went in the direction it did when there's so much lore left to explore, we still don't really know what the fuck a mage does for example.
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>>248094The Friendsims are better than the Pesterquests imo because they're doing their own thing instead of butchering established characters. Tagora was my favorite. Something about him felt very classic Homestuck in a way most of the other characters didn't.
Dirk's Pesterquest route is the only good one because it actually has the audacity to point out how incongruous garbage Ultimate Dirk is to normal Dirk. Like even the mouth-breathers who wrote the Pesterquests know how bad the Epilogue sucks lmao.
No. 248108
>>248090Not trying to be rude here anon, but I never understood people who skipped to the trolls, or for that matter people who used to say that "it gets good at the trolls." The comic "gets good" when John enters at the end of Act One. Arguably before that if you like character-driven comedy.
Maybe I'm just biased though, because I never read the comic
for the trolls to start with. I saw a bunch of cute Dave/Jade art and wanted to know more about the characters, so my friend cajoled me into reading the comic lmao. Like I said upthread, I prefer the humans to the trolls.
>>248098I always assumed that mages we're the male equivalent to Seers, since Sollux predicts the apocalypse (doom.) They could also be enablers or harbingers of their aspect, since he coded the virus that "summons" Lord English (although much like every plot point in Homestuck, LE appearing is "caused" by like five different things at the same time.)
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>>248108None taken. I think it was a couple of factors that made me want to meet the trolls so bad. I got into it not too long before Cascade dropped, I think it was specifically just before Gamzee's murder spree, so things were crazy in the fandom and I wanted to be in the know. Everyone on tumblr (and my irl friends who were into homestuck) talked mainly about the trolls, so I got more exposure to them and didn't care about the kids as much. I also really liked Gamzee (for reasons even I don't truly understand) and really, really, really wanted to meet his character kek. I would go so far as to say that I didn't really want to meet the trolls as much as I just wanted to meet Gamzee.
Rereading it well after it had ended and died placed a lot less pressure on me to meet any specific characters, and I'm sad I missed out on how great the beta kids really are. I did like John and Dave back then to an extent, but I
really got to love them (as well as Jade and Rose) during my second read through.
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picrel started off as a crackship for me but it's not a joke anymore, i love them so much. sn0wman/crowbar is pretty good too. i admit i skipped most of the intermission the first time around, but on rereading it it's one of my favorite parts, the whole shitty detective noir atmosphere is great.
No. 248120
>>248116After Collide dropped, I remember people being pissed off that Ms. Paint ended up with Bec Noir Jack instead of Spades Slick Jack.
>>248113Yeah. In addition to DaveJade art being my gateway drug, the friend who got me into it was very adamant that I not skip anything. It was a bit of a slog the first time through, but I'm glad I listened to her. Over a decade later, I've read the comic in its entirety several times, and like you I've come to appreciate the "less interesting" parts. Literally every interaction involving Rose is hilarious.
Also speaking of shit I don't understand, why do so many newbie fans latch onto Gamzee? He's the JarJar Binks of Homestuck.
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>>248083>>248108I liked both the kids and the trolls, though my favourites ended up being the trolls. Even though it was just window dressing the troll lore and potential for stories in their universe was just too interesting. I found the Act 6 to be too much of a slog for me to really get attached to the Post-Scratch kids. I didn't dislike them but I just didn't like them as much as the OG kids.
No. 248126
>>248071nonny i feel the same. i remember when i heard homestuck had finally finished i binged the whole thing (id tried reading it a few times over the years but gave up each time), and i remember when i finished it i felt this gaping void in my chest and i was actively seeking out fanfics to fill the absence of all these characters id grown so fond of. ive never really felt that since. i think it's because it's such a long story, starting when they're kids, and the story is just so expansive and multi faceted that you cant help but get attached.
this is why hs will always be special imo, even if its pretty easy to point out its flaws and shortcomings. id love to find something else that recreates that feeling for me some day
>>248120>the jar jar binks of homestuck KEK. i can see why he might be popular w zoomers but yeah gamzees popularity was always bewildering to me too. and this is coming from an eridanfag. just….. what exactly is there to like hes literature a juggalo, no redeeming qualities whatsoever
No. 248127
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>>248120>Over a decade later, I've read the comic in its entirety several times, and like you I've come to appreciate the "less interesting" parts. Literally every interaction involving Rose is hilarious.Same here. I think Rose is a character that is more easily understood the older you get, reading Homestuck as a teen, a lot of her personality and inner workings didn't click with me, but now that I'm older I love her a lot more. She's incredibly funny and also very human. Her relationship and feelings about her mom are a deeply underrated part of Homestuck imo.
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>>248120Kids love edgy shit and the idea of people losing their minds, plus hehe weed jokes. That being said, like the speedreading anon, I didn't start reading until a little before Cascade. Was he popular before he went edgy?
What
really baffles me is how many people were hopelessly attached to Tavros. I'm might offend some nonnies here, but I generally got the feeling that he was the self-insert character for people that weren't likable and weren't good at anything.
No. 248133
>>248131>What really baffles me is how many people were hopelessly attached to Tavros. I'm might offend some nonnies here, but I generally got the feeling that he was the self-insert character for people that weren't likable and weren't good at anything.Oh absolutely. On my first read I LOVED Tavros, as someone with a lot of anxiety and general neuroticism as a child that later got bullied a bit, he was the ultimate "comfort character" and I think a lot of kids felt that way. I hated Vriska with a passion because of how she relentlessly tormented him. To some extent, I think both of those views are still
valid, it's okay to relate to a character whose struggling and to hate the one hurting them. But I think a lot of people missed the complexity. I think Peter Pan ended up being a really good thematic comparison for Tavros, in both the good and bad aspects.
No. 248135
>>248131I can see why people liked Tavros. Like
>>248133 anon said, a lot of kids are mercilessly bullied and love the idea that they could one day get stronger and stand up to their abuser. It sucks that they did him dirty by having Meenah hijack his offscreen convincing of so many ghosts to fight Lord English. I was never really into his story, I thought several other trolls were far more interesting, but he didn't really bug me either.
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>>248108>>248128In my case, the question "when does Homestuck get good?" had more to do with being bored and confused. As another anon said kids like the idea of people going crazy; that kind of story development is pretty In Your Face and easy to understand.
But then I reread Act One a few years ago and I was blown away by how funny it was. All the jokes had gone completely over my head as a kid, so it was refreshing to realise that Homestuck was actually a comedic masterpiece all along. Even now the scenes that stick most in my mind are the stupid silly hijinks where nobody knows what's going on.
The difference is on my first read I was just as lost, so to me it wasn't funny, just frustrating. I couldn't tell you shit about anything plot relevant but I have a photographic memory of the Lil Cal antics before Dave enters the game.
>>248135>>248133This actually helps a lot. I've always thought Tavros was severely unlikable, boring, and ugly, and I couldn't understand what people saw in him. Now I think I get it! But I still hate him and think he's annoying.
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when I got into Homestuck I was 18 in 2012. A little late but whatever. One of the things I can appreciate is how simple and iconic the character designs are. It did not take much to make the characters but they look so good and are memorable. It's been over 10 years and they hold up so well.
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>>248168I loved how much creative freedom it gave fanartists. I miss the days of homestuck fanart and various -stuck AUs. Mookie's millions of designs were also pretty iconic (and to this day I want to cosplay some of her dreamer designs). It was an endless treasure trove of content that just kept giving and giving and giving. Even for cosplay you could add so much flair or fun details to a character's simple costume.
>>248163Oh my god I think I followed this artist's birbdave/john ask blog!! I think I asked someone a long time ago here in LC if they knew who the artist was but nona couldn't find that person's blog or something. She didn't have her main blog linked to her ask blog so I never got to follow it, but I looooved her art so much.
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>>248138Fortunately, it appears that the HS^2 project was shelved. New Hiveswap chapters are still in the works, with the animators streaming new artwork for Act 3 only a few weeks ago. It looks like the quality of the artwork has stayed relatively consistent as well, unlike HS^2.
Last year, Hussie finally moved on to creating a new IP, Psycholonials, which was basically just an outlet for all his feelings about internet fame and groupthink. It was alright, but not as good as Homestuck or PS.
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>>248131>>248133>>248135Tavros is one of the few characters where both his pre-retcon and post-retcon iterations had good resolutions. His pre-retcon self mustered the ghost army, and his post-retcon self found a kindred spirit in Jake, who he ended up living with in the new universe. I honestly really like Tavros's friendship with Jake, and one of the many, many things I disliked about the Epilogues was how they just completely forgot about the existence of some of the sprites.
Like if the Nannas were around, there's no way they'd let Jane turn into a fascist. They'd nip that shit in the bud, hit her with rolling pins and pie her in the face the second she started being power-hungry (although Jane being power-hungry at all is horrifically ooc in the first place.)
Pic unrelated.
No. 248201
>>248200>(although Jane being power-hungry at all is horrifically ooc in the first place.)Of all the character assassinations in the epilogue/sequel, I actually like Jane's the most.
Of all the kids, she was the most sheltered and privileged, even moreso than John because of being the Betty Crocker heiress, if there is anyone to not understand the weight of her actions it would be her. In the original she probably had the least personality of the humans, and definitely the least of the Alpha kids, so I think her being chosen as a villain was more fun for her. Rather than being power hungry, I read it more as her being ignorant to the issues around her (which is also true in Homestuck og). Plus, she's basically been
victim to batterwitch brainwashing propaganda her whole life, it could maybe even be argued that she was permanently corrupted after the literal brainwashing that happened with the crown thing.
I don't blame anyone for hating literally anything about the epilogues/sequel though lmao.
No. 248204
>>248168Another thing I like is that the names of the trolls are super thought out, like how Terezi means "Libra" in Ukranian and Turkish, and also sounds a bit like Teiresias, the blind prophet. Obviously a lot have to do with their zodiac signs but it's also interesting how they mirror the rest of their personalities and character arcs.
>>248188>hs^2 shelvedkek good riddance. It always seemed to me that they were deliberately writing to make their audience mad, which is a strange choice considering that the fanbase was already dying out when it dropped. Maybe they saw all the fan drama and discourse HS started and assumed that more discourse = more engagement, when really discourse is a natural product of a huge fandom made up of mainly 12 year olds, and not the causation of said fandom. That's my tinfoil at least. I just hate when remakes are made to spite people, it's very mean spirited. People latched on to the original because despite all the drama it made them happy, not because they love getting into drama so much (at least normal people lmao)
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>>248201Jane's problem in Homestuck proper was that she had motivations but did nothing to accomplish them. Much like John early on, her main goal was to save her dad. But unlike John, she doesn't
do anything to save him, aside from poking around in a tomb for a little while. In the end, her dad ended up just saving himself (which raises questions as to way he didn't just break out sooner, but I digress.) The brunette kids are all pretty passive characters, but Jane's character doesn't develop away from or to that point like the others do.
Epilogue Jane has the exact opposite problem. She's an active agent in the story, but she has no motivation. Why does she want to subjugate trolls suddenly? What does she intend to use all this power for? Why, if this is the result of lasting influence from the Condesce, would she be doing the
opposite of what Condy would've wanted? It seems like she's just doing these things because it's fun to be rich and evil. I don't necessarily mind the characters being morally grey, but it would help to actually
see their descent into villainy instead of just skipping to a point in the story when they're already Hitler 2.0. It's also very difficult to suspend my disbelief that literally no one took her to task about it, Roxy and Dad in particular (or Nannasprite, who may or may not exist post-canon because Hussie apparently forgot about her.)
It's very obvious that Hussie (and/or whoever the hell else wrote the Epilogues) sat down and thought, "who can we make into a villain? Ah, let's use Jane! She's boring and no one cares if we ruin her." Also, they clearly wanted to shoehorn in some kind of dated Trump analogue, because he was elected right before they started writing the Epilogue.
>>248204The original 12 trolls and beta kids were all named by fans via the suggestion box, jsyk.
Not to take away from Hussie's character writing, because it was really good especially in the first half of Homestuck, but once you read a lot of capeshit, you realize how heavily inspired Homestuck is by it. Terezi is basically just female Daredevil, for instance, and Sollux's powers and lusus are a reference to Cyclops from X-Men. Terezi's coin thing is stated outright to be a reference to Two-Face. There are several character who have one eye and one robotic arm, which is reminiscent of Cable from X-Force.
There are also just a shitload of movie references beyond just the obvious ones like Con Air and Hook. Trolls' grey skin and orange horns are an homage to Howie Mandel's character in Little Monsters. This is a lot more obvious when you see the poster in color (in the comic, it's in greyscale.)
No. 248261
Are we seriously discussing Homosuck in 2022?
>Favorite characters? flashes? songs?
Caliborn, Aranea, Dirk, Meenah, Roxy… Caliborn gets the top because he redeemed A6 with his on-point self-inflated moid antics, Roxy because she's fun, nerdy and kinda desperate, and the rest because I could remember some good moments that didn't want me to slam the comic in the dirt.
In terms of flashes, Game Over for the absolute fuckery, Cascade for the thrills, Collide for the action-packed moments and Jade: Enter since it's the point where everything goes to shit.
Music-wise? Toby Fox, Tensei, the whole Prospit & Derse + Medium albums.
>Fanfic recs/fanventure recs
I don't read fanfics but Keshastuck was wild
>OTPs? NOTPs?
I used to be very fond of DirkJake back in early A6, and some Davekat.
>Opinions on the vriskcourse?
Vriska is a joke-to-mary-sue pipeline thus making her worse than Gamzee. The only way she gets a lot of appreciation is because of every single BPD troonbian needing a waifu self-insert.
No. 248275
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>>248172The artist is nymphicus! She has a tag on mspabooru linked upthread.
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>>248275THANK YOU
NONNIE I LOVE YOU SO MUCH MAY THE GODS BLESS YOU FOREVER
No. 248304
>>248127thanks for posting this sweet gentle heartfelt fanart anon. now im sad
>>248140based and also unfortunately true re: rosemary.
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dumping fanart
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No. 248559
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>>248172Rumminov (picrel) also used to create a lot of fancytier designs as well (I think she might actually have been the person who started that trend.) I'm just going to dump some examples of artists I loved in the fandom (and whose artwork greatly inspired me to improve as a teenager tbh.)
No. 248560
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Akitsu-47 was one of the biggest Dirkjake artists, though a lot of her stuff isn't on the booru because it's nsfw (it was all really tame iirc.)
No. 248562
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Happyds was just really good in general. Even as an adult, I still like her work (though there was a bit of an issue with sameface.) She used to draw a lot of Jake.
No. 248565
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Fleinne was known for drawings of the alpha kids (and porn.) She was probably the most popular Meenah/Aranea artist.
No. 248568
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Yummytomatoes was very prolific, and drew tons of Karkat and Karkat ships, most notably Davekat, Karezi, and Gamkat. Also, she always drew everyone with big chunky skate shoes for some reason.
No. 248571
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Hamlet didn't make a ton of Homestuck art, but I think her popularity in the fandom helped her own webcomic (which was basically just yaoi smut in a sci-fi setting) get off the ground.
No. 248581
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Fruitegg is still in the fandom after all of these years. She was born the same year as me and I die a little inside when I see how great she is. Inspirational though.
>>248577Starfighter. Have fun.
>>248570Its one of his horns anon…
No. 248583
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Last one for now. Emily Hu/ Averyniceprince was a decent artist, but she was mainly known for her shitty coffeeshop AU Gamkar comic, 4Chords.She was also apparently a lolcow, and actually has a super old thread:
>>>/snow/65138She seems to have grown out of being a cow at least superficially, but back in the day, she was basically the Alythuh of the Homestuck fandom. She refused to interact with people who weren't "fandom famous," constantly posted heavily shooped thirst traps in her Jade cosplay, LARPed being poor/working hard while also taking expensive vacations, etc. Seriously, her and Alythuh are functionally the same person.
After like five years of doing jack shit, mommy and daddy paid for her to go to an art bootcamp in LA, and immediately thereafter she began working for DC. As far as I can tell, of all the artists I've posted, she's the only one working for big-name companies.
No. 248655
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>>248583She was such a huge inspiration to me at the time, 4chords was so fucking bad though lmao. Literally the only reason it was popular was the art. I met Emily at a con around this time and remember gushing about her Honestuck fanart and she was nice about it, even if she is a cow it was a good memory.
LenYan was another favorite and big inspiration at the time for me. When I think about beautiful hs fanart she's the first to come to mind.
No. 248668
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How has nobody mentioned sweet bro and hella Jeff yet?
No. 248719
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>>248581god, fruitegg is such a legend. i love her so much, shes really nice too.
>>248565fleinne… her aranea… influenced my taste in women.
>>248632bunping this with some femdirk art i want to reminisce about stupid fandom theories
No. 248727
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wow so. i'm still obsessed with homestuck. it's like the only series i even bother reading fic for these days; even so, i rarely touch newer stuff. too much of it is saturated with wangsty sadstuck shit/tranny (hs2) nonsense/doesn't quite get across the whimsical, silly vibes the earlier acts possessed. anyway:
>Favorite characters? flashes? songs?rose, terezi, gamzee, john, jade, vriska…just to name a few! flash wise, i often return to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RDLgIgcAD8. it's extremely hype watching the scourge sisters dance at the strings of their ancestors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SJbq5j3ANM make her pay is also incredible (the flashback portions, anyway).
https://youtu.be/wGQlI0XfEaY jade entering the medium…etc., i could continue but this post is already massive.
>Fanfic recs/fanventure recsi'll rec three fics.
>https://archiveofourown.org/works/293880/lost teeth like white jewels; strong found family vibes. which i love. everything by urbanAnchorite is so fucking good though, i wish she'd bulk publish her scraps and drafts and whatever else…
>https://archiveofourown.org/works/730175Distortion Party; gamzee and porrim run into one another in a dream bubble. excellent writing and character study.
>https://archiveofourown.org/works/488366take me to the astral plane; funny john/dave chat fic. john tries to lure dave into shitty ghost shenanigans. feels extremely ic, which i adore.
>OTPs? NOTPs?my otps…i'd be here all day. will just say that i love lalonde/strider/dersecest & gamzee <3< terezi. the only hard notp i have is davekat. all davekat shippers i've seen have been annoying shitters for one reason or another.
>Opinions on the vriskcourse?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coT0wdwkgs4 No. 248735
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>>248727wait i need to recommend karkat goes to a convention:
https://mspfa.com/?s=27317 this is funny as hell to me.
i'll also go ahead and cry over the reality of modern hs fandom: i have nooo fucking idea why it's so saturated with zoomers. how did they even discover homestuck. have they even read the og comic. how did they get past all the non-pc jokes of the early internet (how did they handle the constant usage of the word "retard" without exploding into a million angry pieces), i just don't get it.
No. 248754
>>248735>how did they handle the constant usage of the word "retard" without exploding into a million angry piecesFor starters, seldom do they actually read the comic. They usually just read the wiki and watch LPs of Pesterquest.
For the rare ones that do read it, a tranny made a "mod" for the Unofficial Homestuck Collection that censors out all of the things that would harm the zoomers' delicate sensibilities. God forbid any of the morally ambiguous characters say the word "retarded," lest some AGP's ears shrivel up and fall off.
Next, somebody should make a "mod," that gets rid of all of the blood, or that makes Vriska nice. Or fuck it, let's start doing that with everything now. I want to see a G-rated re-edit of Pulp Fiction, and a version of To Kill a Mockingbird with no systemic racism. Apparently preserving the feelings of entitled morons is more important than being respectful of other peoples' artwork.
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>>248735I remember that one, I really liked it but kind of lost interest in the mid-game. Register lady was great though.
On the topic of fanventures, I don't know if I like Homestuck ET AU (HSETAU) genuinely or to laugh at the weird idpol shit it gets up to. Spades Slick ends up in a trailer park where all the humanstuck trolls reside and property destruction ensues. It gets pretty over the top, at one point humanstuck karkat has a mental breakdown and starts crying over abuse at the hands of his father… all because he learned how to flip his sprite.
https://mspfa.com/?s=32611&p=1 No. 248785
>>248632Oh Jesus, where to even begin with this? Trolls with tails is the probably the headcanon that annoys me the most. I don't like when people give Jade a dog dick (a retarded degenerate headcanon that shouldn't have been acknowledged even in "dubious" canon.) I don't like purring trolls, which was weirdly common years ago. Horn-rubbing is mostly a meme now, but it used to be played straight, which was bizarre given that horns are just keratin. I'm also not a fan of hermaphrodite trolls.
I also dislike tranny headcanons as a whole, but that's a given.
No. 248787
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>>248719Well, here's some fem!Dirk
by Fleinne.
No. 248805
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>>248632>>248785God, I hated the erogenous horns thing. The Jade dog dick thing too, keep your retarded coomershit away from my best girl. Also any art where they try to make the trolls look non-human, I don't think I've ever seen an alien troll design that actually worked well. I don't mind race headcanons for the kids, I've seen some art where it works, but I hate the slapfighting around it, it's fucking annoying.
Picrel are my favorite kind of shitty headcanons, theyre so angsty it's hilarious
No. 248834
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Kek remember this goof? I wonder what happened to him?
No. 248845
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>>248838It’s Joey the cosplay elitist. He’s responsible for this copypasta.
No. 248846
I heard of Homestuck first as this esoteric, mysterious internet thing that people had a lot of opinions on. Then I came across AMVs on youtube that had some amazing fanart. The characters (mostly trolls) looked kind of cool so I started the comic, and…though it was not anything like I thought I pushed forward.
I came across a youtube channel where the comic was voice acted for every character so that was an enjoyable way to "read it". I thought it was interesting, but I dropped off after the new batch of trolls came into the picture.
>Favorite character?I initially liked Equus because all I saw was fanart of a long haired troll guy. Then I saw him and he was…weird. But I enjoyed his friendship dynamic with Nepeta. Nepeta is my favorite troll.
>>248120 Gamzee can die in a fire though. I hate him and cannot fathom why anyone would like him a single bit. And he's my zodiac to boot. He also killed the two aforementioned trolls. Rose and Kanaya are also nice, I like the shipping of them.
One thing that Homestuck instilled in me was a sense of existentialism. The toying with life, death, eternity and immortality touched me in ways that probably affect me today. I'm not saying the comic is that profound, but it makes me want more media that delves into that kind of stuff.
No. 248866
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Anons, what's your classpect/godtier?
Im a Witch of Rage.
No. 248881
I read after it was complete in 2016, but I started it originally in middle school on my ipod which didn't have flash and hadn't realized all that I was missing. I was stupid and had to refer to the wiki often to keep up with everything kek. I haven't read it again and think I will only do so for it's 10th anniversary of being done in 2026.
>Favorite characters?
The mayor, Dad, Karkat, John, Rose, Terezi, Kanaya. I didn't like the alpha kids that much, though Roxy was fun she was dragged down by the rest of them.
>Flashes?
No big attachments to any of the flashes I can recall.
>Songs?
Really love the music and when I'm in the mood I get sucked into listening to it. Sburban Jungle takes me back, Pumpkin Party in Sea Hitler's Apocalypse, Hate You and Love You, Moonsetter (and other songs with same leitmotif, it's my favorite song and I loved to cry to it), Eridan's Theme, Karkat's Theme, Black and Liquid Negrocity and others I can't remember now. I like the music from the new game soundtracks too, Karkat's theme is so good.
>Fanfic recs/fanventure recs
I never got into the fandom or fan content but I liked knowing how chaotic and… interesting the fandom was in the background. I've liked the idea of fandom as a place people express themselves and make connections but never really engaged in it.
>OTPs? NOTPs?
I don't care much about shipping, I liked the friendships between the characters more than anything. John and Rose's friendship was probably my favorite part, and I liked how Karkat's relationship with the kids changed over time too. Davekat is cute but seemed kind of weak to me. Terezi and Vriska is good, and Kanaya and Rose are a nice solid couple I liked them too. Maybe I'd say I'm a Karkat and Nepeta shipper but why did she have to die!
>Opinions on the vriskcourse?
I find it annoying and don't care about Vriska as a character, I liked her ghost self being able to be happy for a bit but then had that taken away.
No. 248890
>>248846>meowrailsplease read this if you haven't!
https://archiveofourown.org/works/171924/chapters/250985 it's so cute. heed the content warnings though
No. 248908
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>>248845KEK I was heavily into the fandom at its peak and I have no idea who this is, sounds par for the course for cosplayers at that time though. I remember there was this poor girl who was doing a makeup test for a Meenah cosplay and while she had done her face irl she left her ears clean and just photoshopped them grey. Cue MASSIVE spergeout from 14 year old home stuck fans that accused her of lying and trying to manipulate people, saying she wasn’t a real cosplayer, and even death threats. This was a massive fallout in the fandom at the time. I remember being extremely anal about accuracy in cosplays and I have no idea why. I want to say it was the cosplayer in picrel but I’m not sure.
No. 248909
>>248787wow shes just like me fr
>>248785omg, annoying fucking headcanons. furry adjacent ones usually fucking suck, although i did always think giving the trolls hands that are kind of paw-ish was cute…
>>248866heir of light!
No. 248911
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does anyone remember captaincrunchcosplay? stumbled onto her again, she's still doing hs cosplay here and there. her terezi was always my favorite.
>>248866maid of space! im afraid to take the classpect quiz again if i got something else i would probably undergo ego death. as for sign, i think my true zodiac was cango.
No. 248912
>>248866sylph of time
>>248908the irony of sperging on how well-done a cosplay is for a comic that looks like shit (lovingly)
No. 248914
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For the life of me I need to talk about the Hetalia vs Homestuck fandom wars specifically regarding an incident supposedly in the early 2010s. I first heard about it from finding a screenshot post along the lines of, "Remember when a hetalian pepper sprayed a Homestuck cosplayer" I did some research and Ive seen that the situation was talked about in depth by some homestuck tumblr accounts but I was never able to confirm any details as to what happened as all post regarding the situation where locked off and again the incident was a few yrs old it at that point so any other links were dead or deleted and me not ever having a Tumblr account as a teen was only able to see the preview of posts that still survied at that time. I learned that it had been an Hetalia America cosplayer who had pepper sprayed a homstuck fan but the rest of the details and it was apparently a lot of details was barred off from me.was Since then Ive recently have remembered this and come to find that all information regarding this incident has been wiped from the internet. So does anyone know???
No. 248963
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>>248914i don't remember any of that but goddamn kek. you did make me un-repress fandomstuck so thanks for that
No. 249000
Honestly the only thing I care about homestuck at this point is Vriska. I find the modern fandom(on tumblr) annoying as fuck.. I also hate every Tavros fan because he is the worst character #vriskadidnothingwrong
>>248866Knight of doom!! I think classpecting is really fun.. I had a so many fantrolls
>>248911I REMEMBER HER I thought she was awesome, based my terezi cosplay off her
>>248914I don't know the drama but I got into homestuck in 2014 because i was a hetalia fan first and saw hetastuck shit LOL
No. 249206
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Can't mention Homestuck art without ikimaru. I remember I tried to emulate her style so hard as a kid kek.
No. 249210
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Was anybody here on the Gigapause site? It doesn't exist anymore, so it's extra nostalgic now.
No. 249219
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>>249206kek the artist I tried and failed to copy was Xamag.
No. 249225
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adding to the good artists. i always adored milkmanner.
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No. 249245
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Do you guys remember averyniceprince? I remember she was always causing drama and was so deeply hated for the human fujo comic she did. She was one of the first “problematic” internet figures I remember tumblr users would call each other out for liking kek.
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>>249246I have no idea tbh. I wouldn’t be surprised though, her art still holds up. I think people nitpicked her a lot because they were jealous kids. 4 Chords was kinda cringe but it definitely didn’t deserve the levels of hate it got.
No. 249261
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>>249245I can't tell if this is just Dave and Jade or if Emily literally just drew herself and her loser boyfriend (both way too flatteringly I might add) in cosplay here. I think it's the latter, because tits-out-Jade and Chad-Thundercock-Dave (with square sunglasses?) are the sort of shit I'd normally expect of an artist who know dickall about the characters.
>>249246Yes, she's worked for DC, Marvel, and Dreamworks. I mentioned it upthread.
>>249249I was there at the time, and the art was never what people were making fun of, anon. It was just the notoriously meme-able dialogue. Case in point, I specifically remember "Can't sleep without holding onto a motherfucker," being a minor meme at the time.
Also she was a spoiled queen bee type. There were plenty of equally good if not better artists in the fandom back then that did not get the same level of backlash she did.
No. 249338
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>>249245I remember finding her because of 4 Chords and I actually really liked 4 Chords kek. I stopped following her for a while because she stopped using tumblr but I found her on twitter a few years ago and she mostly just posts about her dogs and shit now. She seems like a pretty chill person now.
Does anyone remember this one Dave cosplayer, I think her name was Rose or something? She also did a lot of Hetalia cosplay, specifically of Prussia and I think she has a tattoo of the coat of arms of Prussia. I think she was a friend of Emi/AVNP since they were both relatively notable figures in the fandom. I remember going to a meetup where both of them attended too kek. I'm not sure if picrel is her (I don't think it is) but the bottom half of the face looks similar.
No. 249348
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>>249338Ok it took me half an hour but I found the person- Lindzar kek. I forgot she also did Bro/Dirk cosplay too. I remember having the most massive crush on her.
No. 249356
>>249210oh i spent so many days on that site :((
>>249225omfg i had forgotten her name, thank you so much anon
>>249348screaming. i was so besotted with her
(:(() No. 249394
>>249276No one is still mad about it, anon. I'm still in the fandom and I don't even remember the last time someone brought 4chords up.
I also don't remember anybody foaming at the mouth about it. Maybe it was just someone you followed in particular who had some spergouts, because I personally never saw anyone get legitimately angry at 4chords. It was mostly just people cracking jokes about it. I didn't even know people considered Emily a cow until I saw that she had a thread here. The impression of her I got at the time was just that she was a good artist who happened to be a little spoiled.
No. 249404
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great being in this thread triggered my autism thanks everyone. mfw i cant show anyone this ever irl.
i wanted to do an alanatroll through a fenestrated wall too but icant waste more time on this.
No. 249424
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>>249404>>249410thank you
nonny. god bless. edited to make
troll will's face better.
No. 249486
>>249431>>249436Currently at waldensteiner on tumblr. After fandom started becoming more woke people came after her for the incest comic and at some point she came out with an apology saying that she was groomed into liking incest or something similar and completely disassociated herself from HS. Looks like most of her recent art is about her original comic.
It's wild how much fandom has changed, even though John/Jade wasn't popular at all, that comic was EVERYWHERE. There probably were people who hated her for it at the time, but it felt like a lot of people were relatively chill with it.
No. 249924
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reliving my childhood in the most autistic way imaginable
derangement prize to the first anon who recognises this
No. 249992
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Did anyone else browse /hsg/ on /co/ way back when? I'm remembering events like when halftruth/softowl/Rachel lost her shit over 4chan and also when they sent Andrew pic related. I didn't care about the bigger Tumblr fandom but I found /hsg/ entertaining.
No. 250123
Finally a thread to unleash the hidden undercurrent of autism within.
>>249394The annoying moid fag mentioned here: was completely obsessed over sperging out over the artist at the time and had a lot of people harassing her. She got a lot of hate over being a fujo and not over the fact that she was just annoying at best.
>>249992Lmao yes, they also sent him a USB drive with a large message/greeting thing on it with custom wrapping paper. I spent waaaaay too much time on /hsg/ back in the day.
No. 250274
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>>249992The horse dildo actually made a cameo in the comic. Someone also send Hussie a handmade Lil' Cal, and I think he might have also ended up with that weird Denver Broncos painting? He's definitely accumulated some weird crap over the years.
No. 250286
>>248735Hope I don't away my identity by saying this, but I actually know the author who works on that fancomic personally. He's kind of intense, but a decent guy on the whole. He says he intends to see the comic finished no matter how long it takes.
Honestly, the MSPFA community is easily the most pleasant Homestuck space online I've ever been in. People are mostly focused on making art and sharing ideas, and not on arguing about Twitter bullshit.
No. 253531
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Does anyone remember this artist called "dename"? They went under other aliases (denkagu ame, den-ame, den-x-ame, and amedasu) but I remember them mainly for their HS fanart. I tried to search for other social networks of them, but it seems that everything is deleted.
No. 253544
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>>252378I'm sure there exists an IP out there with a character that is ostensibly female Dirk. What do you like about him, though? Because you're not likely to find a female character who is identical, obviously; he's a gay machiavellian prodigy who likes robotics and hates himself. Do you like how his interactions with his splinters reveal his insecurities? Do you like his sense of humor and overall demeanor? His aesthetic? Because I can definitely think of female characters that have certain things in common with him, but not everything.
Roxy herself once described Rose as "girl Dirk," but I think she was mostly referring to how Rose was smug and analytical. She's certainly not as self-hating or socially inept as he is.
No. 254393
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>>254301Please don't cancel me for posting on lolcow, anon…
No. 254750
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caption this
No. 254957
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>>254750Even as someone who shipped Johnkat, I never liked OrangeLemon's art (though she seems like an alright person). It's like she's trying to imitate EEnE's art style, but only applying it to the faces of the characters, so everybody has the same silhouette and body type, but weirdly exaggerated faces.
She mostly draws Naruto fanart these days, so went from drawing Dave like a Happy Merchant to drawing Sakura like one. Also she hasn't improved in ten years. I gotta say, as ugly as this style is, it works a hell of a lot better for fanart of Western shit than of anime.
No. 254959
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>>254873The chimpout /hsg/ and Reddit had over Davekat reminded me a lot of the Free! and YOI asshurt on /a/. It's not my favorite ship either, but I wasn't mad about it, and certainly not to the autistic degree most male Homestuck fans were. And yeah, the screeching was coming primarily from scrotes who self-inserted as Dave and had Jade or Terezi as their waifu. It was so obvious that they idolized Dave and we're outraged at the idea of him dating another dude, crying that it was "out of character."
Thing is, it's really not hard to look at Dave's frequent jokes about asses, dicks, and gay stuff and interpret him as repressing his interest in guys, especially when the comic also makes so many jokes about him making Freudian slips. A lot of people
did interpret it that way long before Davekat was a thing in canon. If you go back and read Dave's first conversation with Karkat, it's weirdly flirtatious and kind of comes across like he's projecting.
I remember being displeased about Gamrezi being canon because I despised Gamzee, but a black relationship between them does make some semblance of sense when you consider that the characters represent chaos and justice, respectively. I also super disliked Meenvris because of the uncomfortable age difference (and I preferred Meenah with Aranea) but again, I could see the logic. None of the canon ships in the original Homestuck struck me as arbitrary or OOC, honestly. Dubiously Canon is another story, but I'm not going to get into that.
No. 272389
>>248131So I'm late to this thread but I want to say that I also loved Tavros when I read back in 2011. I shipped him with Gamzee back then and they were my OTP. But I never finished the comic back then, so I decided to reread it from the start (I'm almost finished) and honestly, I feel like Tavros got super fucked over. I don't like him as much now because he basically doesn't do anything. I still prefer him to most of the Dancestors and like, Feferi, but I wish Hussie would've done more with him because I find him so cute and dorky.
And as for shipping him with Gamzee, I can't for the life of me figure out why I enjoyed that ship back then. Gamzee is batshit and horrible, and the two have no chemistry at all and little in common. Most things I enjoyed about the ship were headcanons I'd somehow convinced myself were canon over the years of not reading the comic. It was a fairly popular ship too, and I don't get it.
Now, reading as a mid-20s adult, Davekat is my OTP and Karkat is my favourite troll.
No. 273237
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Shai'hulud.
No. 279328
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wish i'd never experienced homestuck sometimes. nothing else has come quite close in terms of characters, etc.
and if i'd known how cancerous modern hs fandom was going to be well, i'd have held on tighter to my friends from that time.
>track some of them down
>they've all trooned out somehow
kill myself
No. 279761
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>>279328Holy shit, same. I'm still casually involved in the fandom and it's so hard to avoid the troons. Let's be friends nona
No. 300700
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>Favorite character
Tavros Nitram, regrettably. There's a lot of projection going on there. Anyway, Dirk is the best character.
>Favorite songs
Moonsetter hits me in the feels and Dualscar's theme is just cool.
>Fanfiction reccomendations
Black Sails, Black Romance by mtjester…
>OTPS
4LL 7H3 Y4015. But yeah, Vrisrezi, because how could you not?
I like how the story played out, but I think there were definitely avenues I wish Hussie would've explored. Feferi, supposed ruler-to-be of Alternia, gets zilch in the plot? Additionally, had she not charged at Eridan and instead ran away, there would've been easy stories for both the characters. I don't even know what to do with Nepeta. Etc, etc.
Also, I loathe the sausage lips (picrel).
No. 301149
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I think I'm gonna read Homestuck all over again. It has been 8 years since I found it, and I never got to finish it because I stopped keeping up with the updates.
I don't know if I have talked about this already (if I did I'm sorry for being retarded), but sometimes I randomly think about how well developed the Classpect system was and it makes me think that maybe Hussie had ghostwriters since the beggining? (Also, the Quadrants!! Such an interesting concept, I know it was probably a parody of "shipping culture" but idk, pretty original!)
I also always think about how there was a perfect 50/50 ratio of female and male characters for a Western comic. To me it never felt weird how the female characters were treated, (I'm talking about the part before the dancestors, obviously) they were allowed to be ruthless, murderous, intelligent, cunning or even walking disasters, just like the male characters. How can a moid come up with that… and of all them, ANDREW HUSSIE? Sure, you could say there are some male authors out there that have done interesting pieces of fiction, but all of them always end up thinking with their dicks, either putting the female characters in secondary roles or turning them into their "perfect uwu waifus". Or if they write them as villains or anti-heros, they use them as shitty commentary about how a "perfect woman" should be.
For me, it's like Hussie's personality/attitude didn't fit with the webcomic and its characters.
I kinda believe he did have ghostwriters that helped him with certain things, like maybe the Classpect/Quadrant system, and when it came to writing certain characters. Thougths on this? As I said, it has been 8 years since I last read this, I was 15-16, so my perception of the characters and the story might be distorted.
(I also never searched MSPA forums, so I don't know if maybe the people that interacted with the webcomic there played a big part on how the webcomic was created.)
No. 301183
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>>301149There was tinfoil about ghostwriters, particularly towards the end of the comic, but as far as I can tell, Hussie wrote it himself. I think he just payed really close attention to the fandom, particularly the MSPA forums and Tumblr, and I think the feedback helped him with certain ideas. For instance, fans named the beta kids and the original twelve trolls. Also, there is stuff that he's said outright was ghostwritten (the epilogues) and there's a noticable drop in quality. I think he's a genuinely talented guy who just got burnout and irony poisoning.
In any case, if you're re-reading, use the unofficial Homestuck collection (it preserved the things that were broken when flash support ended) and do not read the epilogues. They're a complete waste of time and they're not even "canon."
No. 301190
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>>301183>I think he just payed really close attention to the fandom, particularly the MSPA forums and Tumblr, and I think the feedback helped him with certain ideas.AYRT, I binge-read the Homestuck^2 thread on /snow/ to see if there was any new interesting drama and I found this post made 2 weeks ago
>>>/snow/1832946 which I think supports your point.
>inb4 you were the one that posted thatkek sorry
>use the unofficial Homestuck collectionI didn't know about this, so thank you so much anon, will do!
No. 301209
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very controversial of me but i miss ipgd's art a lot
No. 301230
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>>301209This… isn't IPGD's art. This is ket3's art, she just reblogged it making fun of it. IPGD can't draw as far as I know, she just writes (which she also sucks at.) Not she if she was friend with Hussie when she wrote this, but brain ghost dirk literally calls Jake his boyfriend later in the story, and because BGD is a manifestation of Jake's own mind, yeah, I think it's fair to say that Jake changed his mind about wanting to break up after actually getting dumped.
No. 301231
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Doublepost but also yeah Ket3's art was really nice. It' a shame so many of the really good Homestuck artists DFE'd after they stopped being into the comic. I've never personally done that and I don't understand why other people do it. My cringey InuYasha fanart from like fifteen years ago is still up on my old Deviantart, I don't care.
No. 301245
Oh man. Now I want to reread homestuck. I remember trying to make a fanstory with my friends back in the day. Maybe I'll brush up my old fantroll's design for fun.
>>248091Old post but I did the baby Dave thing too! As well as paint a sweet bro and Hella Jeff face on the wall in one of my classrooms (the teacher gave us permission to do so, I just got "creative" with the subject matter). I remember seeing a younger student post about it after I had already left the school. Who knows, maybe it's still up there.
>Favorite characters? Back in the day I really liked Dave, Rose, and Nepeta. I remember not really liking Terezi for whatever reason, but I've really come to like her in recent years. She was such a weird wacky girl character that I haven't seen since. I also thought Aradia was cute.
>flashes? Cascade will always be special to me, I remember waiting for that update and getting chills watching it. The music was good, the art was good, the way the screen expanded and shit was so fucking cool to me, it felt so big and dramatic and exciting.
>OTPs? I don't ship anymore but I really liked Karkat/Nepeta back in the day, I just thought Nepeta was so sweet and I wanted her to be happy so badly.
>NOTPs?I used to really like Rosemary but looking back on it it was kind of a boring ship. I also wasn't the biggest fan of Davekat being canon, I was never a big fan of the ship but I always thought it was cuter imagining it as an unrequited thing, with Dave being too cool to admit it and Karkat being a loser too proud to admit it. Idk if that makes sense. It just felt weird, like seeing two of your good friends who don't seem to mesh well romantically kiss in front of you. Also Equius/Aradia just made me mad.
No. 301336
>>301183i love this piece of jake fanart!!
>>301245i agree with you about davekat, i know it does kind of make sense like another anon mentioned with daves homoerotic fixations and their awesome dialogue chemistry but i genuinely did find it a bit out of left field. i always preferred johndave and johnkat kek, but im really a sucker for close friends to lovers. i like rosemary even though its pretty boring, definitely second fiddle to based vrisrezi though
No. 301626
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I posted this in the Homestuck thread on snow, but I realized it might've been better here.
These two characters deserved better.
No. 301649
>>301626yeah youre right.
eridan used to be my favourite character, but even if you hate him (as most people do) you gotta admit he got a pretty raw deal. he dies
doesnt get brought back, and gets forgotten essentially. no forgiveness arc or anything (even gamzee aka the one guy most people hate more than eridan got more of a redemption kek)
but a lot of the trolls deserved better – honestly most of them did. hussie essentially wrote off most of the trolls & focused on his handful of favourites.
i think a lot of fan content took the role of fleshing out relationships between eridan sollux & fef for example bc the story kind of abandoned it
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>>301626I would really liked to have seen the interactions between Jane (another character that deserved better) and Fefeta, because I think Jane and Feferi have a lot in common. I also wish Jane had been given more to do, specifically mystery-solving type stuff because that was originally part of her theme. I thought it was really lame when Dad Crocker just punched himself out of jail. Jane should've been the one to save him as part of having a character arc.
No. 301697
>>301649>>301626Nah, I think anyone who says Eridan deserved better is completely missing the point of his character. He's a rich kid who friend-zoned himself because he was too much of a bitch to admit to Fef he didn't want to just be moirails and thought she would just fall in love without him ever saying he wanted more, and even then he was emotional dead weight in their relationship (also viewing it as transactional - I help feed your mom, you be my gf and listen to everything I want). He's disgusted by people lower than him (can be interpretted as real or just an act of what society expected out of him, I personally think its both, adding depth to his character), entitled to women and other people's sympathy, and is too stupid and bloodthirsty to build a real moral backbone. He kills the girl he claimed he love out of pure jealousy and entitlement. To me, there is no "deserving better" for him, he's a cautionary tale of narcissism and male rage. If he were a human kid, he'd be Elliot Rodger. I like him as a character, but I will never understand people who think his story shouldn't have ended how it did, he is the perfect example of a product of his environment that mirrors real life young men who have his mentality. Wanting better for him is to want him to be a different character entirely, imo.
No. 301706
>>301697I'm not sure what anon meant by "deserved better" but I assumed she just meant that the characters were interesting conceptually and deserved to be fleshed out more. Eridan in particular could've had more of a comeuppance instead of just dying. Imagine if instead of wasting our time with the retarded Dancestors, Karkat interacted with dead Eridan and realized the parallels with how they were possessive of Terezi and Feferi respectively. I like the idea of characters being humbled be death, y'know? We know that there are timelines where Feferi and Eridan somehow reconcile (the GT pair that saved WV for instance.) I understand not every character
has to have depth, but in a story as long as Homestuck, there's really no excuse for them to have introduced new, superfluous characters when there were plenty of established ones to flesh out.
No. 301734
>>301697I'm one of the ones you responded to and this nonna explained it better than I could;
>>301706Him and Feferi were just written off, when their characters could've been so much more. Especially Feferi considering her relationship to her other and her blood, but no, it was all cast aside for… dancestors and alpha kids. The alpha kids were a mistake, imho.
No. 301740
>>301693I agree. Her character could have been explored in so many different avenues, but no, it's about Jake and his dumbassery. Blah, blah, melodrama. Ugh. The scant times she does get narrative focus is when she's under the Condense's control. It's a shame. I really enjoyed her whole gumshoe shtick. Also, the life aspect by itself is interesting. The healing thing also means that a character could infinitely harm themself and/or others, but I'm getting ahead of myself.
Jane, heir of the Crocker corporation, and Feferi, heir of the throne to a whole goddamn planet, should have been friends. But no, I guess. Why have characters that have things in common interact? In fact, why not just add more characters, because that's definitely what the audience wants. More characters. Yeah.
Mituna is literally and figuratively retarded. I don't get why people like him so much.
No. 301798
>>301740I'm a Mituna fan and ultimately it's because I'm a bit edgy and liked that he was an unapologetically open filter douchebag plus I like his backstory. But I'm also a tinfoiler who thinks he was being mindcontrolled by Kurloz into being retarded, so maybe I'm just stupid. I understand why he's grating to people, I think that was the point of the character.
I also think Jane had a lot of wasted potential. She was kind of treated as the generic girl rather than leaning into her fun quirky traits like her love of baking and detective fascination. Part one of act 6 became all this lame Jake melodrama that I just was not interested in.
No. 303373
Started reading hs recently. im a little obsessed, acts 1-4 were awesome. I'm about midway through act 6 and it's definitely going downhill but honestly i'm still enjoying it
>favorite character/flashes/songsI love all the beta kids, but dave is defo my favorite in the whole series. Some of the earlier flashes are awesome. Seeing their little sprites animated like in dave: abscond is really cool! Doctor is probably one of the best songs imo, but it's hard to really say since there's so many i like a lot
>Fanfic recs/fanventure recssburb done quick and karkat goes to a convention
>OTPs? NOTPs?I'm not much of a shipping person but davejade is cute.
>>303295>Are there any worthwhile fandom spaces left for it, or not really? Seems pretty dead.i don't think so, which is kind of a bummer. you can try the hs discord, but there's a lot of zoomers and mtfs talking about twitter nonsense. If there's anyone wanting to make something, i'd be down to help, I would love to actually have some people to talk about homestuck to lol
No. 303389
>>303295the modern homestuck fandom is basically sadstucks/shippers that skipped to the trolls. many of them haven't even read homestuck, they have only read hs2. or they aren't into hs because it's hs, they just want their queer rep kek. total cesspool everywhere barring the very very
very rare hs thread on /co/ and here.
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>>303822Nah, I was never into roleplay. I'm kind of autistic about characters being written OOC, and when you're writing on the fly, I think it's hard to have time to actually think about a character's distinct voice, so the result was predictably a shitload of people playing either fanon versions of characters, or just themselves with characters' quirks and catchphrases peppered throughout. I was definitely more into fanfic, fan comics, and fan games.
No. 303875
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>>303389>the modern homestuck fandom is basically sadstucks/shippers that skipped to the trolls. many of them haven't even read homestuckLmao this is pretty much always how it was, just add cosplayers. Back when I still cosplayed, I met so many people who just thought the meetups were fun and hadn't actually read the comic in its entirety. A lot of people just like the feeling of being part of something, and don't actually want to invest the times it takes to understand or even fully read/watch the source material. "Skipping to the trolls" was practically a meme back in 2011.
>>303874I just tell people that it's a comic about a group of internet friends who play a video game that creates universes. I think Hussie also once described it as a creation myth.
No. 303882
>>248727>after 10 years I still immediately recognize the wwalks into thread imagethanks for the war flashbacks lmao
anyway I’m another old fan who’s been slowly rereading. haven’t touched the epilogues or hs^2 or the visual novels but it sounds like I’m not missing much. I stopped paying attention originally around the time of the credits and the snapchat stuff I think? I remember around that time there were a lot of theories about how the post-retcon writing and the ending were unsatisfying on purpose because there was going to be a big twist where it was revealed that Caliborn wrote that part or something like that. I assume that’s not what ended up happening.
>Favorite characters? probably John and Rose, I’m basic
Vriska and Dirk were the most interesting to analyze. I bet people are still writing lengthy essays on whether or not they’re redeemable.
>flashes? WV: Ascend was peak feeling of exploration, blew my mind the first time I saw it
Cascade and Synchronize/Unite are also good
>songs?Candles and Clockwork, Sweet Dreams Timaeus, most of the Cherubim album, anything using the Showtime leitmotif
>Fanfic recs/fanventure recsMr. Tambourine Man, a John-centric alternate ending that diverges when they go to open the door to the new universe. Incomplete but really in-character and sweet.
>OTPs? NOTPs?I read a shitload of Rosemary fanfics but was kinda underwhelmed by it in canon. tbh that’s how I feel about most ships that get made canon in any media though - the infinite number of fanfic scenarios people can come up with to get a ship together will usually be more interesting than the one thing that actually happens, especially if romance isn’t the main focus of the story.
>Opinions on the vriskcourse?surprisingly neutral. I liked trying to figure her out and reading all the meta posts about her, but she didn’t make especially angry
No. 368778
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Sorry to bump, I've been wallowing in nostalgia from my homestuck phase recently. I remember thinking the fandom was so cancerous at the time but in hindsight fandoms can be much worse in different ways IMO.
I really miss the cringey pseudo-anime art. More recent fanart is either stereotypical tumblr art that's headcanon central and barely resembles the characters, or the exact opposite, stylised and very close to the comic designs.
No. 369050
>>303822i RPed on msparp a little here and there as dirk, rose, sollux, mituna, eridan, and others sporadically. yes i have mental problems. one acquired headcanon for me was that mituna was particularly socially awkward pre-accident and prone to migraines (generally i RPed alive, pre-accident, dancestor session, vaguely-sensing-incoming-doom mituna).
>>303389depressing, its such a fun story. sadtuck/shipper types know not what they do
>>368778oh my god, this art gave me such a rush. how i miss those innocent days pre-vitilligo and obesity headcanons.
No. 369263
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>>368778Wow this image hit me like whiplash
Thanks for bumping, I've been having a huge nostalgia surge too. I miss couple of artist like yummytomatoes. I loved that the character were always drawn in some clunky ass hightops.
I was never much of a Gamzee fan until I found yt's.
No. 369416
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I was one of those contrarians who would claim the intermission and midnight crew parts were the best bits of the comic and the trolls were boring, ackchully. I'm not sure I really believed it but I did have a slight obsession with the green moon as a setting.
The idea that it was the last planet at the end of the universe and it was this noir city full of 1930s gangsters. I would 'borrow' the setting for my own daydreams often.
In the era of galaxy print everything Snowman's design was also very cool. I was mad Hussie never finished that paradox space comic about them all.
No. 369455
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>>369416Honestly, the Felt and MC stuff would have made a great spin-off. I always felt that their storyline was a little rushed, and also poorly timed in the way it interrupts the main story. Imagine living in the timeline where there was a whole midquel comic dedicated to the MC instead of the godawful post-canon garbage we got.
No. 369458
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>>369263She has a carrd:
https://mouseandhound.carrd.co/But she's not very active online anymore. For several years, she drew a lot of cute art of her dogs and her sona, but most of it has been deleted.
No. 369459
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>>369050>oh my god, this art gave me such a rush. how i miss those innocent days pre-vitilligo and obesity headcanons.I wish there was someone I could complain to about how much I despise all the recent art that depicts Dirk with breasts. It just strikes me as homophobic, taking the one homosexual male character and making him blatantly female like that. I have friends who are still into Homestuck, but I don't dare vent to them about it because they're woke and would rake me over the coals for criticizing it even a little. Christ forbid you judge low-effort TiFs for insisting that all gay men in media also be portrayed as low-effort TiFs who constantly have their tits out.
I hate this. I want some non-woke female Homestuck friends.
No. 369463
>>369459the only good "dirk with breasts" fanart i have seen was homesmut of sis strider (a true genderbend but still with short hair, no makeup, the ideal genderbend) getting eaten out lol.
as i said in response to this same artist (im pretty sure) previously, this would literally be based if jake was drawn as a thick butch latina. they could call it t4t mlm still idgaf as long as their situation was obviously still homosexual.
maybe i should get a new tablet and go back to drawing homestuck fanart, be the change etc
No. 369467
>>303822I used to use msparp and cherubplay.
>>369050Lol anon what the fuck I also used to rp as Sollux and pre-accident Mituna. Guess we're both mentally ill.
No. 369509
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>>369463Yeah, unfortunately it's not actually a genderbend, it's a trans headcanon. I'm pretty sure these annoying artists would chimp out if someone tagged it with "genderbend." Also, because these TiFs are straight and they self-insert as Dirk, they pretty much always depict Jake as biologically male. They also make him dumpy and obese for some reason, even though he's described as attractive in the comic. Typically, he's an AMAB theythem because he cried in canon and is therefore Not A Man in their eyes. How progressive!
To me, Dirk in canon gives off strong AskGayBros vibes, i.e., he's pretty macho (some would say straight gay) and dislikes the idea of gayness as a personality trait. As much as I dislike post-canon, I can absolutely see why they decided to depict him basically as a "TEHM."
No. 369614
>>369509yeah this
>because these TiFs are straight and they self-insert as Dirk, they pretty much always depict Jake as biologically maleis the biggest thing that bothers me about this fanart and others like it. where my other obnoxious horrible lesbian dirk self inserters at. controversial and arguably retarded opinion but i dont think you can really understand dirk's character unless youre gay, which is why straighoid tiffies always misinterpret and woobify him.
No. 370184
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Happy 4/13th. I'm spending my day just seething in jealousy of those lucky bastards who get to go the Requiem Cafe.
Sarcasm aside, it would be cool if they opened up multiple locations. I'd make a trip if they had a cafe on the east coast.
No. 370807
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4/13 makes me very nostalgic too, nonnies! I got into homestuck in my last year of high school back in 2012. I felt I was a bit too old for cosplaying and going full fan girl so I did not do anything outlandish. Instead, I just quietly spent 2 years being completely obsessed with it. To this day my earliest iCloud photos are homestuck fanart.
>Favorite characters?
I liked Rose, Terezi, Vriska and Kanaya. Karkat was also fun.
>Songs?
If we’re talking official soundtrack, my favorites were At The Price Of Oblivion, Black Rose / Green Sun and Unite Synchronization. I also unironically loved I’m the Member of the Midnight Crew. Out of unofficial and deleted tracks, my favorites were Spiderb8te and Temporal Shenanigans.
>Fanfic recs/fanventure recs
Sunbreaksdown fics were pretty good back in the day, although I have to admit I haven’t reread them for quite a while. Wondrous Adventures of Harvey, English and Strider is a fun steampunk AU. At some point, I got tired of human AUs and really got into the idea of alien invasion/trolls coming on Earth. Most of the fics on this topic were shit but I did enjoy Straw Soldiers.
>OTPs? NOTPs?
I preferred Vriska/Terezi, Rose/Kanaya, and Eridan/Sollux. However, during the gigapause I read a lot of fanfics to dull the pain of waiting and ended up reading pretty much anything. I didn’t really care for Tavros and Gamzee, and Beforus trolls but the rest was fair game.
No. 370816
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not into homestuck and haven't been for years but i'll reminisce
>favorite characters?all the kids. i didn't like any of the trolls except vriska, terezi and aradia
>fanfic recsthese two by dellaluce (deleted account)
https://archiveofourown.org/works/174140https://archiveofourown.org/works/136614great writing and characterization and i usually don't care enough to read non-smut fanfic
>otpdirk/jake, vriska/terezi, jade/dave, stridercest of any kind (sorry not sorry)
>notppretty much every m/m pairing. fucking hate john/dave, dave/karkat (tbh any human/troll romance), any male troll/any male troll because i hate the male trolls. i am a hater.
No. 372019
>>369459I hate this too. Dirk’s initial uncertainty around making a move on Jake and internalized homophobia all falls apart if he’s female. Most of the male characters could conceivably be female without changing the story, but Dirk is one of the few whose sex and sexuality are explicitly relevant.
Friends are hard to find when the fandom has so many TIPs and pretentious moids. I’m tempted to start a discord server for non-woke female Homestucks, but I don’t know where I could safely advertise something like that.
No. 372031
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Anyone else just really fucking love Karkat? I don't know what it is about him but I feel like the 'angry shortstack tsundere with motherly tendencies who inadvertently holds everyone together' thing going on with him is super rare in male characters. I don't think there are any other male characters quite like him. His trope of character is usually a woman. It's really weird that the writers chose to do nothing with him other than make him Dave's wife in the end.
No. 387298
>>387158I hope the hs2 reboot doesn't live long enough for June to appear in an official product. John content is rare enough as it is.
There's a sad irony in TIF Roxy happening in the Epilogues and being ignored by the fandom because they preferred to headcanon her as a TIM, while June has never happened and is already treated as sacred canon. People really don't give a shit about TIFs or representation for them kek.
No. 387418
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>>387158Ugh, yeah. Honestly I doubt the people doing that actually even read the comic, they probably just watched Pesterquest and read the wiki. I just hate the way gender idpol has taken over Homestuck in general, I miss when the fandom was just a bunch of cringey college kids having fun. The social justice stuff didn't take over until 2012, and before then, it was pretty fun.
I posted HS fanart for the first time in like ten years last 4/13, and there were retards in the QRTs shading me for drawing Dave white. Seriously? Half of the fucking joke with him is that he's a white hipster who sucks at rapping. Hussie clearly based the Striders off of himself, there's nothing "black" about them. Honestly, it's more racist in my opinion to assume that they're black just because they enjoy rap. Same with human versions of Gamzee. I've seen people genuinely try to argue that Gamzee is "coded black," because he raps, has an absentee father, and has a substance abuse problem. That's so fucking racist! Especially when most Juggalos irl are just white trailer trash.
I wish I could go back in time and assassinate David Karp, preventing him from ever creating Tumblr. None of this would have ever happened without the way Tumblr caused campus social justice to infest fandoms.
No. 388579
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A while ago, a nona gave me some really great advice while I was reading this comic in another thread, and I just recently finished all of Homestuck! It was way more enjoyable than I thought it would be. I felt like I was pulling teeth while reading for a while, but her answering my questions really helped me understand the story, and I wound up having an excellent time despite my initial misgivings. I'm sad it's over now, as I got unreasonably attached to some of the characters kek. Like, I'm not just saying this to be polite; I really, really enjoyed Homestuck, even though I was absolutely convinced I'd hate it. I also don't understand the hate for Act 6? I preferred Act 5 (primarily because my favorite character got the most focus), but 6 was overall incredibly enjoyable. I thought Caliborn was funny, and while there were some extremely low points (namely, anything to do with Meenah and the other ancestors, which were borderline unbearable), I would consider Act 6 to be very solid.
Anyways, one of the things she advised was to avoid the epilogues. If that nona is still around, or if there's another nona who knows more about this comic than I do, I was wondering what's wrong with the epilogues? I was pretty satisfied by the ending as-is (it wasn't perfect, but with a comic that long, I didn't exactly anticipate a perfect ending that ties up all loose ends), and I tend to dislike unnecessary sequels, so I don't feel compelled to read them. However, I do see a lot of people hating the epilogues in this thread, so I'd like to hear more about what went wrong. She also said she had recommendations for things to read in place of the epilogues, so I'd love to take any recommendations people on here could give. Also, are Hiveswap or Pesterquest worthwhile, or are they plagued by the same issues as the epilogues? I love visual novels, and if they're remotely entertaining, I'd like to give them a shot (unless they'll ruin the original comic for me or something).
No. 388584
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>>388579It's possible I was the person you talked to. Act Six isn't as bad as people say it is, and its main issue imo is that it tries to do too many things at once. But it's still pretty damn good.
Post canon is a whole other animal. When people say Act Six is bad, they're being hyperbolic. But the Epilogues genuinely are as bad as people say they are. It's not written by Hussie, for one; he handed an outline to a pair of fanfic writers and they actually wrote the thing, so it's missing a lot of his style and humor. The characterization is absolutely horrible– everyone except John, Dave, and Karkat gets completely butchered writing-wise. The female characters were ruined particularly badly. Remember how horse cocks were a minor running gag in Homestuck? Well, in the Epilogues, they add in 10x more """ironic""" fetishism in that vein, and yes, the characters have sex, sometimes in uncomfortable detail. Characters get married and then have affairs, and then there's melodrama about the affairs. Oh, also: the Epilogues are basically novels. There's no music, no art, just prose. The Epilogues are the kind of bad sequel (the name is deceptive– it's a sequel, not an epilogue) the actually ruins the original a little bit. You know how the Star Wars prequels sort of ruined the original trilogy by making Darth Vader lame and introducing bullshit like midichlorians into the lore? That's the effect the Epilogues have on the original Homestuck. I'm not going to spoil anything in particular, but if you choose to read it, know that you've been warned.
I'd say read fancomics instead of the Epilogues. I'd recommend Detective Pony by Sonnetstuck, Karkat Goes to a Convention, and Mr. Tambourine Man by Odditycollector. Act Omega and Act 8 are tolerable fancomics, but they both have minor issues and almost never update. If you poke around MSPFA, you might find more things you like. The Tapestry by Monckat is a "fancomic" on MSPFA that's basically just an original webcomic in a somewhat Homestuck-y art style, and it's pretty good. That's just some stuff off the top of my head.
No. 388591
>>388579Don’t read the epilogues, nona, they are really bad. Just as other nonas said: they sort of ruin the original comic, they’re very drama-focused, and their version of the characters is horrible. They completely butcher some characters and find countless ways of ruining others, either by adding unnecessary details and plot turns, or just making them act extremely out of character. What’s worse, they are not even doing it in a fun or interesting way, it’s just boring lukewarm slop of a writing.
Hiveswap is good. It’s completely unrelated to the original comic except for the fact that it takes place in the same universe. I wouldn’t say that this is the best game ever, but it’s fun, and it’s nice to see parts of the world we did not get to see in the original.
No. 388598
Thank you, nonas! I appreciate the responses. I'll probably steer clear of the epilogues, but maybe I'll read a summary online, just to see how bad it gets. I don't love the idea of the story turning into a soap opera with that kind of relationship drama, though, so I doubt they'd appeal to me. It sounds like the epilogues were either created spitefully or out of some misguided attempt to make the story more 'mature.' Again, I didn't think the ending warranted a sequel, so I'll probably keep my memories of the comic intact. Since most of the online fanbase seems pretty terrible, I guess I'll just enjoy the comic without engaging with much outside of it.
>>388584I might try the visual novels, just because I read a lot of VNs, but I understand I'm doing so at my own risk. Detective Pony looks great, by the way.
>he handed an outline to a pair of fanfic writers and they actually wrote the thingThis is an insane decision. I don't understand why the epilogues needed to exist in the first place, but it's crazier for the author to make an unnecessary sequel he apparently didn't even want to write.
>everyone except John, Dave, and Karkat gets completely butchered writing-wise. The female characters were ruined particularly badly.Karkat and Dave were my absolute favorites, so I'm glad not everyone I liked suffers from bad writing, but what happens to the female characters? I don't mind if you spoil it, as I don't think I'm interested in the epilogues, but Kanaya and Terezi were also among my favorites, so it's disappointing to hear their characterization probably got obliterated. I understand if you don't want to answer, though. I'll read a summary at some point, so no worries.
>>388586>i read them because i'd read anything "canon" related and nothing can spoil my feelings towards the original comic I tend to avoid 'canon' things that ruin the characters, as it's very hard to get something out of my head once the original has been butchered. Of course, the fact that it's basically official fanfiction does make it a little easier to ignore.
>>388591>Hiveswap is good. It’s completely unrelated to the original comic except for the fact that it takes place in the same universe. I like this approach! Is it still ongoing, or has the project been dropped entirely (it appears to be unfinished)? Also, is Pesterquest any good? I know it features the original characters, but I believe it's a separate timeline or something?
No. 388613
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>>388579Basically what the other nonnas said, avoid the epilogues since they weren’t even written by Andrew Hussie but probably by a bunch of Wattpad middle school fujos or something
For the vidya games I have nothing to say since I never played them but I might now play Hiveswap.
No. 388616
>>369463Pics or it didn't happen
(Plz I need)
No. 388678
>>387418i feel you sister, i cant believe how many people miss the gag on the striders. the weird thing is most people who draw them black are white themselves.
wrt the gamzee headcanon, this is such a peeve for me as well! i like white appalachian or southern trailer trash humanstuck gamzee ocs.
makes me wonder what are peoples' humanstuck headcanons?
i always liked albino karkat, ginger terezi, wannabee scene kid vriska (i love when people draw her with raccoon tail clip in extensions lmfao)… human!mituna missing teeth like 2d from gorillaz is also one i like a lot.
>>388579issues with the epilogues can be summed up by: they are ANNOYYYYYING. imo hiveswap lacked any of the unique charm of homestuck but some people like it.
No. 388899
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>>388598>it's crazier for the author to make an unnecessary sequel he apparently didn't even want to write. Most people think he did it out of spite. People kept asking for an epilogue, so he decided to pull some genie bullshit and make a horrifically crappy one to "punish" the fans for wanting an epilogue like PS had. Y'know, instead of just doing the adult thing and saying, "No guys, the credits were the Epilogue. I'm burned out and I don't want to expand Homestuck."
>what happens to the female characters?Well, since you asked: Jade is a nymphomaniac with a dog penis who constantly creeps on Dave and Karkat and tries to fuck up their relationship. Jade turns into a authoritarian plutocrat, which Roxy does fuckall to prevents because Roxy is too busy trooning out and skinwalking Dave. Rose has no narrative agency, she just soliloquizes with Dirk while she lays sick in bed. Kanaya has no personality outside of being Kanaya's wife and is tricked by Dirk in the most retarded way possible. Terezi isn't there for most of the comic aside from randomly showing up to fuck John. In one timeline, Calliope is just Roxy's girlfriend for like two scenes, and in the other, Calliope basically becomes Caliborn 2.0 and fights with Dirk for control over the story (an ability Dirk now has for literally no reason.)
All of the alphas got ruined, frankly. Remember all that nice character development Dirk has in the original, the cathartic scenes he had with Jane and Dave? Well, all of his character development is undone, and also he's suddenly competent at Controlling Everything even though he sucked at being in control in the original comic. He basically appoints himself a villain and engineers conflict because he knows that he's a fictional character and that he ceases to exist if there's no plot and no story. Like Jade, Jake is now also a sex addict despite being extremely introverted and saying in the original comic that he dislikes being "a piece of meat." He's also just completely retarded despite literally being called a "genuis polymath" in the original comic. Because apparently getting two concussions when you're 15 turns you into a permanent retard.
>Also, is Pesterquest any good?Dirk's route is the only good one, all of the others range from mediocre to terrible. And Dirk's route is mainly good because it basically says "fuck you" to the Epilogues. The other human routes are kind of cringey, and the troll routes are just plain awful. The writers (none of whom are Hussie) shoehorned gender-bullshit into Eridan and Vriska's routes.
pic tax.
No. 388900
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>>388678>the weird thing is most people who draw them black are white themselves. That's not surprising at all imo. It's virtue signalling, like absurdly overly diverse headcanons always are.
>what are peoples' humanstuck headcanons?People on Twitter have meltdowns when you make Gamzee white because they're racists who think that having an absentee dad and doing drugs means that he's coded black. But like you said, juggalos in real life are usually just white trailer trash. Anyway, I like human Kanaya being middle Eastern bc "Maryam" is a real last name used in that part of the world. I like the idea of human Vriska being super low-effort scene, like she dyes her hair shitty blue eye from Hot Topic and then doesn't keep up with it. I used to like albino Karkat, but I'm not as attached to it as I used to be. I like the Karkat in picrel.
No. 388926
>>388900this fanart is so tasteful and cute
>>388904nta but i like hearing what cultures and looks people have in mind for human versinos of the trolls
No. 389077
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>>388678>i cant believe how many people miss the gag on the stridersDoesn't John literally refer to either Dave or Bro as a white guy in Act 1 or somewhere else relatively early in the comic?
>>388899Thanks for the detailed reply. It would've been nice if the author could've just dropped the story when he was done with it. In general, I wish writers were better at saying that they're finished when their story reaches its conclusion rather than dragging a story out beyond its natural death.
>Well, since you askedHoly shit, that's genuinely terrible. I don't know if it makes more sense in context or something, but that's fucking insane. How does the dog penis even factor into the plot?? Like, is this just mentioned on the side or is it an actual plot point? I guess it's good in a way that Terezi is absent for most of this, although I didn't like the idea of her and John together when it was suggested in the comic.
>Calliope is just Roxy's girlfriendAlso, this might be my bias because I preferred Jane/Roxy as a couple, but isn't Calliope unable to age, since she
died and then used the ring? Like, I assumed she was basically just a zombie. So, is she just a child for the rest of her (after)life while Roxy will eventually become an adult?
>Well, all of his character development is undoneThis is incredibly disappointing; I hate that plot element conceptually. I obviously don't understand everything about the epilogues, but making Dirk the villain is kind of sad, considering his character development. The scenes where he and Dave had those conversations were possibly my favorite in the whole comic, so that's just depressing to undo one of the best-written (in my opinion) parts of the story. Of course, I'm prematurely judging it without reading, so maybe there's context I'm missing.
>shoehorned gender-bullshit into EridanI looked his route up on YouTube, and I genuinely cannot believe, of all the characters, someone chose ERIDAN as the mouthpiece for this. Don't get me wrong; I don't hate him or anything (I actually like Eridan a lot because he was funny). However, I do not know why anyone would choose him to represent their political ideology when his personality is like that.
I know I'm stating the obvious here, and this has probably been discussed countless times elsewhere online, but most of these writing decisions make absolutely no sense unless I'm missing a ton of context.
No. 389214
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>>389077>isn't Calliope unable to ageI'd assume so. When cherubs go through puberty, they predominante and then grow wings. Neither of those things are the case for Calliope, so I assume she's a perma-kid. Also, much like how humans only have red love, cherubs only experience black love. There's also the obvious issue of humans and cherubs having incompatible sexual physiology.
>The scenes where he and Dave had those conversations were possibly my favorite in the whole comicSame. It does a great job of closing out their character arcs. The Epilogues throw the whole thing out the window just so they can have a villain, it drives me insane.
>However, I do not know why anyone would choose him to represent their political ideology when his personality is like that.I think it's entirely because of the March Eridan meme from years ago.
No. 390463
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hey /hsg/, if you played sburb, what do you think your land would be like? an aspect i loved about homestuck was the idea of having a whole planet to explore. i especially liked jade's planet (both before and after it was defrosted) because i love volcanoes, but im not sure i could hack being a space player. seems like too much responsibility for me.
if i was the space player, i like to imagine my planet as very volcanically active like jade's, but with lots of mysterious, labyrinthine ruins half-encased in lava rock with giant seams of pure obsidian. it could be called the land of frogs and black glass. maybe there is a huge underground aquifer where the frogs are trapped, and through my quest of freeing them, ancient marble fountains embedded in the obsidian start bringing crystal clear water up from the aquifer and onto the land so plants can grow again in the sandy soil, giving my consorts a steady supply of food to cultivate. my consorts here would be fire salamanders! my concept for this land would be inspired by some maya and aztec mythology as well as pompeii.
i feel like im probably not actually suited to be a hero of space, though. i feel the most kinship to the light aspect. the planet idea i have for this role would be a bright, oceanic planet dotted with wild tropical islands with exotic flora and insects life, where my water dragon consorts live. there would be strange, rusted shipwrecks that my consorts would seem nervous about, hinting to a deeper mystery. as i sailed and explored the world, i would realise that there is an impenetrable darkness at the hearts of each little island, and that the ocean floor drops off suddenly into seemingly infinite black depths below the reefs… where my denizen rests.
thanks for entertaining my spergery /hsg/ kek
No. 390464
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cute comfy john for you all
No. 390480
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>>390463my favourite lofaf frame, reminds me of gustave dores print of the fallen angel
No. 390644
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>>390463I don't know what my planet would look like, but I know the Land of Crypts and Helium was my absolute favorite in the comic. I love anything to do with history, and the idea of exploring some long-dead civilization is so neat. Honestly, all of the alpha kids' planets seemed really cool because they had that sort of feeling, but we saw the most of Jane's, which is why I say hers is my favorite. I really liked finding the notes left behind by the inhabitants in the exploration segments. I would've loved for there to be exploration segments for all the alpha kids, but I understand that might've been boring for a lot of people.
No. 390683
>>387418>juggalosthe zoomies into homestuck now do
not know what a juggalo is, to be fair. they don't know that there used to be a significant number of white guys walking around in clown face paint poorly reciting poorly written raps about world peace and
that's what gamzee's meant to represent and poke fun at, not black people. but i feel like they're getting a poor man's experience of homestuck anyway, i don't think the average modern hs fan born in 2005 understands even 10% of the cultural context behind most hs jokes. e.g. they're so offended by the word 'retard' being in the comic that there's a way to filter it out kek
No. 390771
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>>390644i think that mechanic (all consorts dead on arrival) is specific to void sessions, which seem terrible to play! but i do agree that the alpha kids' lands seemed super cool. i LOVED the land of tombs and krypton particularly and wish we got to see more of it…
No. 390829
>>389214oh god, I remember when march Eridan came out and it was just a ~le funny crossdressing joke. Then it became
problematic because crossdressing jokes were
problematic because it made fun of stunning and brave transwomen. Then march Eridan was ok again if you headcanoned Eridan as a closeted transfemme/transwoman who crossdressed to aliviate dysphoria or whatever. The circle of stupidity is complete
No. 391157
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this fanart is so cute… vriska looks so innocently happy
No. 391892
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>Referencing the Baldwin-Buckley debate as a justification for your Homestuck headcanons
Scream bloody cringe. Oh my god.
No. 392050
>>391560mangoranger on dA
>>391896Land of Pillows and Blankets…
No. 392051
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i have a soft spot for fruitegg's australian weirdness
No. 392052
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my favourite of hers
No. 392053
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i think this is some beyond canon or epilogue type shit and i dont care for that but i DO love furry jade and davebot and the sick ukiyo-e style on display here.
No. 392327
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time for some dirkjake
No. 392329
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No. 392330
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i love this beautiful jade
No. 392331
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everybody say happy birthday karkat.
No. 392347
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>>392331Happy Birthday!!!! I love him so much.
No. 392459
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>>392327One of my big OTPs as a teenager. I remember being so hyped about the bit in the comic where Jake made Brain Ghost Dirk real and then he quoted the Princess Bride. Years later "in love but they're both shit at communicating" is still one of my favorite dynamics.
No. 392575
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>>392470There are several, but I hesitate to name them because the fandom is small and I worry they might catch shit for being plugged on ~le evul cyberbullying site~. Kindykotik (picrel) is probably popular enough that it wouldn't hurt her, though, so I'll recommend her stuff. I'm not normally fond of details like acne and such, but I think Kindy uses it really tastefully. I like that her Dirk looks like a greasy nerd.
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>>392470I liked fruitegg and it seems like she's still active. Absolutely cracked artist and I think it's funny how she goes in the opposite direction of a lot of the fandom and draws the Striders as the whitest guys I've ever seen
No. 392730
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>>392347that fanart in specific is so nostalgic. ive seen it so many times. how have the years slipped by so fast? I love karkat so much hes the only fictional character i have ever become completely obsessed over and I have no idea why. I remember writing a rudimentary chatbot of him eons ago and being totally giddy about it.
No. 392756
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I think RoseKat would be interesting. In that, it would be interesting to see a level of self nothing that Rose probably would tolerate and a level of snarkiness that Karkat couldn't fathom.
Second I would love to see more interactions from John and Sullox. They basically stand at exact opposite of the nerd spectrum, but have a lot in common when it comes to being a slave of fate.
Third. Vriska and Equius. I just want more of their interactions as n8ghbors
Nonnies, what are your crackships, or even ship ideas that make you think?
No. 392758
>>392756i’ll come back tomorrow sometime to gush spazz in full but off the top of my head ten minutes before bed:
gamzee <> john
vriska <3< or <> or <3 feferi
nepeta <3< jake
terezi <3< rose
vriska <3< rose
No. 392765
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>>392756i love the neighhhhhb8rs, but only as close friends. picrel is some fun fanart.
i always thought eridan and equius could have had interesting chemistry, like, bizarre sadomasochistic racially loaded blackred fluctuation. weird servitude shit.
i like black nepeta ships as well, fanon and canon smooth out her character into a silly happy go lucky sperg but i want to see her get mean and… catty with it. i dont remember if she ever interracted with jade but i think they could really get under each others skin especially considering how annoying jade found feferi, and the cat/dog meme.
>>392758lol vriska black with rose and ashen with kanaya would make for the most awful
toxic ship dynamic of all time perhaps
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>>392756To add on, I adore Vriska/Karkat and I think they would make great morails, maybe even matesprits. The last interaction they had before the final fights was so cute. I loved their shitty little battle diagrams and the back and forth they had.
I also love John/Terezi as kismesis.
No. 392873
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peaceful dirk
No. 392876
>>392834Dave and Kanaya would be so neat. I can just see them having such nice and genuine conversations. No bullshit, no irony, just wholesome chats.
On another note, I think it's perfect for Dave to explore his obsession with mother figures without having him dip into incest territory.
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>>392842Because it became social suicide to draw all the kids white, so now everyone has to make one of them the token brown kid. It's a great way to tell who has read the comic and who hasn't, because you get these people who will make John white or Asian, but make Jade black because they clearly aren't aware that they're siblings. Or they'll make Jake ambiguously brown and Jane white, but then have Jade be black. I get that genetics is more complicated than everyone just looking like a perfect even mixture of their parents, but people aren't even trying to make sense with their headcanons at this point. I've seen people make the Alpha kids one race pre-scratch and another post-scratch, like they don't understand that Grandpa and Jake (for instance) are literally the same person.
I think in the beginning, people just drew Jake with a tan because they liked the idea of him being a sexy survivalist jungleboy. But then it evolved into various race headcanons. Pic unrelated, I just love the way this artist draws Jake.
No. 392885
>>392842she lives on an island
race headcanons are very pretty dumb to me though as they aren't really human at all, are they? due to ectobiology or whatever
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>>392878right. hussie is a nerdy white guy who likes nerdy white guy things, and all the human characters are clearly written as and meant to be white imo (like. caucasian.) he'd always written homestuck as something of a parody of a real webcomic, the fandom reallyjust took it so fucking seriously and started imposing all their tumblr fandom social rules on everyone who read it (aka female on female violence.)
makes me sad because i really enjoyed the comic at first. i think the quality dips immensely once the trolls show up, i hate them. i could have just read the kid adventures the whole time.
i think it's fine for jake to be super tan since he's clearly a parody of "ye olde timey adventurist with mildly colonist aura" characters/real life adventurers.
god, i loved that artist too. dirkjake was peak. i don't mind jake with a deep tan since it contrasts nicely with dirk being so pale too.
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>>392880>Dave and Karkat would get into a lot of petty altercations but would still hang out with each other the most and listen to music/DJ. I mean, that's pretty much what they do in canon.
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>>392911Unpopular opinion, but I really like the Alpha kids. My only gripe is that Hussie got distracted by other c-plot bullshit and didn't flesh Jane out as much as the other humans. I'm sad we never saw her interact with Meenah or Feferi.
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>>392922Strong agree. I'm really upset Jane didn't get any more development than she did, as she had the potential to be my favorite Alpha Kid. I still like her a lot, but I wish she'd been given some kind of big moment in the comic. She gets sidelined after she gets mind-controlled, like the author forgot about her or something. The comic also treats her kind of cruelly, and it's understandable why the fanbase doesn't seem to care about her very much. I feel similarly about Jake, although I don't like him as much as Jane. I kind of felt like he was robbed of some of the character development he should've had after the events with Dirk. We got glimpses of what was going on with Jake, but I never quite felt connected to him. It's a shame because I really enjoyed the Alpha Kids' dynamic when they were initially introduced, but I guess the comic was too overwhelmed by the sheer number of characters that some of them had to be under-utilized. If the time devoted to the awful dancestor segments had been given to Jane and Jake instead, the comic would've been a lot better.
No. 392929
>>392927Jane had so much potential. I wish we got to see her do more gumshoe-ing. Also I wanted to see more of her standing up for herself (outside of Crockertier). The part where she goes off on Jake was satisfying because of how she let people walk all over her before, but Crockertier kind of robbed us of more of that. I also like the interactions with her and Dirk.
> If the time devoted to the awful dancestor segments had been given to Jane and Jake instead, the comic would've been a lot better.Holy shit anon, we've got the same brain. Fuck the dancestors, let Jane do some sleuthing.
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>>392922is it unpopular? i loved the alpha kids and the og kids. i just hate the trolls. i think my opinion is the unpopular one lol.
vriska and terezi are the exceptions, i like them a lot.
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>>392963It's also full of TiFs who draw everyone (especially the Striders) with tit scars. Or sometimes just tits, like I mentioned here:
>>369459Troon headcanons for Roxy, Rose and Dirk upset me the most. Like people look at a girl who likes programming and just assume that she must either have a penis or have a secret desire to cut off her boobs. It's sickening. Same principle with Dirk and Rose, it's like they can't stand the idea of two people of the same sex being a couple, so they give Dirk a vagina and Rose a penis. I know that they're actually doing it because they self-insert as the characters or want to fuck them, but it's a bad look nonetheless. Let the programmer girl be female, and let the gay man be a gay man ffs. I particularly hate when people make Roxy "transmasc" as an excuse to ship her with Dirk. Spoilered for cringe.
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I don't complete dislike her but I never understood the appeal of Calliope. I never found her to be interesting or needed in the story besides providing some assistance to the mc's or by being a plot device for Caliborn. I get that having her there is a major motivation for LE's rampage, but I don't feel like she was fleshed out as a character enough to be nessesary. Any other plot device could fill her space.
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>>392911lest we forget.
i dont really care about racial headcanons personally tbh. im partial to mixed maori/islander jade and jake if anything>he'd always written homestuck as something of a parody of a real webcomic, the fandom reallyjust took it so fucking seriously and started imposing all their tumblr fandom social rules on everyone who read it (aka female on female violence.)you really cut to a central issue with how fandom was homestuck's downfall
No. 393042
>>393038Nta but I'd honestly say the opposite. Jane was the only one whose guardian wasn't murdered, and she didn't even have to do anything to break him out of jail. He did it entirely on his own (which makes me wonder why he didn't do it sooner? Was it like an Uncle Iroh situation where he secretly worked out?)
Now she, Jake, and Jade are definitely treated cruelly post-canon, and it gives off the impression that Hussie and/or the other writers hate those characters.
No. 393127
>>392927You are so right,
nonnie! I was so upset with how Jane was treated. I loved how she was depicted originally. She was stubborn, sassy, goofy with her detective speel. I really loved the direction her character was going. I loved her earlier interacts with Dirk and Roxy.
It was so insane how quickly her character flopped after the alpha kid's game started. She took a total 180 and her main issue (besides finding her dad (which she barely tried to do)) was her crush on Jake. She can explore her feeling sure, tons of other characters had dealt with messy love issues, but they also were actively trying to progress in the game.
I can't remember what stage the gs writing team was in during this part of the story, but it couldn't have been when Hussie had most of the creative controll.
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I know it's popular in art but I hate seeing troll skin that is tinted by their blood color.
No. 393166
>>393133nayrt but i agree, its stupid. i like how monochromatic alternia is from a design standpoint. also having the trolls' skin be tinted means karkat's hemoanonymity wouldnt really be possible.
i dont mind a very light tint, like the lowbloods beings a warmer grey and the highbloods being a cooler grey, but thats it.
No. 393303
>>393133Op here. Like said by
>>393166 and
>>393200, it conflicts with a lot of canon
facts. Karkat's initial issue is erased and the Signless probably would have been killed off much sooner.
Plus a lot of artist go overboard with the coloring, and make some oversaturated sensory nightmares. (The image chosen is an okay example and is a cute style, but I still hate the flushed tumblr noses)
No. 393311
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>>393038AYRT and I had a big rant typed up, but somehow, I accidentally deleted it, so I'll give you a much shorter version:
Jane's entire purpose within the comic is to be a springboard for other characters' development. Her feelings toward Jake exist solely for Dirk and Jake's relationship, her role as a sort of 'false tritagonist' within the initial part of Act 6 is supposed to be some kind of subversion of John's role earlier in the comic, her relationship with the Condesce is so she can act as a roadblock to the protagonists (Crockertier), etc. As a character whose conflict revolves around her constantly repressing her true feelings/nature, often for the sake of others at her own expense, it feels kind of cruel to completely sideline her development in favor of other characters. This was made worse in my eyes because Jane is the most "normal" and "boring" (in terms of life circumstances) of her friends, kind of like John. The difference between them is that John is given his own 'moments' within the story, so he gets to exist as his own character rather than as a roadblock/tool for development. It's so easy for the author to focus on the 'cooler,' or 'more interesting' characters while Jane gets sidelined, which is exactly what happens to her in-universe, too. It feels (to me) as though the narrative is basically confirming that, "yeah, Jane is actually right to repress her own wants/feelings in favor of the other protagonists because she IS actually less important than the other protagonists." It kind of reminds me of what happened with Rock Lee in Naruto kek. Add to that the fact that she's basically given no agency within the narrative itself. There are very few, if any, scenes where she does something active in the plot rather than the plot happening TO her. The main times she takes an active role within the story, Jane isn't acting entirely as herself (she's either being mind-controlled or is in Trickster Mode), so that doesn't even feel like HER decision. Once the Alpha Kids enter Sburb, we don't get to see Jane make decisions for herself; she feels more like an accessory than a proper character.
To me, the most cruel thing a writer can do to a character is deny her any sort of development, motivation, or agency within a story, and instead, make her exist solely as a vehicle for other characters' development and relationships. I don't care if bad things happen to a character I like, so long as they further that character's arc. This isn't even getting into the epilogue stuff, because I think that's pretty self-explanatory. I'll admit I'm not as knowledgeable about the comic as most of the other anons here are, so it's possible I'm wrong. Maybe 'cruelly' was too strong of a word; I could've said 'unfairly' or something, but relegating an entire protagonist to the role of prop feels cruel to me. I hope this explanation made sense.
No. 393335
>>393311ayrt. i really like your point about how jane is the most "normal" of the alpha kids and instead of using that in any interesting way like with john hussie just pushes her aside for the coolkids. i always disliked how her little in-game stint at the start of their session felt but couldnt articulate it, and i think now it was because of her terminal passivity. i feel conflicted about her trickster arc as well. i feel like it could have been used to push forward her character so much more than it was.
question for the floor: how do you all feel about the retcon/ending? i kind of loved game over and thought it was a hilarious move in keeping with the nature of the rest of the comic, however, my dumb fandom self got mad satisfaction from the retcon. yayyyyy everyone win and be happy together.
idgaf about the epilogues and stopped reading once they started mentioning dog cocks No. 393546
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i made some bloodswap sprites for fun lol. idk if ill get through all of them these were just some ive been thinking about.
1. fuschia aradia. dead at the start of the session after being sacrified to glbgolyb for secret fuschia ritual purposes. after her death has formed a deep psychic connection to the outer gods.
2. violet kanaya. prodigy fashion designer and aristocratic tastemaker. also a contract killer. has a shared love of rainbowdrinker romance novels with jade karkat. extremely snobbish and sarcastic.
3. purple tavros. rodeo clown. extremely overconfident and macho, as well as having a sadistic subjugglator streak that leads to him tormenting lower caste trolls. very "its just a joke bro" vibe to his harrassment. in reality is terrible in conflict or combat, hence why he targets physically weaker trolls. deeply religious.
4. burgundy equius. strong for his caste due to a lifetime spent in underground fighting rings. a highly competant martial artists with dreams of being a footsoldier for HIC's galactic imperialist regime. still a true believer in the hemospectrum and highblood supremacy, has a sort of evopsych nietzschean attitude that those trolls who are physically fitter deserve dominion over the weak and wretched lowbloods.
5. hemoanon (mutant or lime) vriska. sort of a personality mixture of vriska's anger and arrogance and karkat's self loathing. copes with her hatred of her position in life by adopting a very fragile, arrogant ego that revolves around how cool and tough and edgy she is. brushes off any questioning about her hemoanonymity as it being a deliberate anarchist political statmement about the plights of the lower castes, and how without a stupid coloured sign no one would know who to cull. wants other trolls to gather around her as a political leader mostly because she wants to feel powerful and in control.
6. jade karkat. pretty porrim-inspired. much less overtly angry and more passive-aggressive and catty. obsessed with romance novels, not really interested in movies unless theyre troll twilight. much more openly caring and loving but tends to have terrible luck in that things often go disasterously wrong under his care.
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>>393546i swapped around the rest of them. these didnt come to me immediately the way the first set did and im not as happy with them but oh well. some ideas i just lifted from old bloodswaps i liked lol.
1. indigo nepeta. probably the happiest with her lol. very similar to normal nepeta, but because of her social position and improved physical strength is much more confident and braggaddocius, like clown tavros. she keeps exotic pets and is obsessed with BIG cats, her room is kind of like normal equius' but instead of crazy horse posters its all corny lightning panthers and white tigers and shit. works as a lion (sorry cant think of an alternian vocab for lions off te top of my head) tamer for a subjugglator circus, and met tavros through her connection to his caste. flarps with him regularly, their flarps are notable for their extremity and high stakes. she plays HARD. trains martial arts with equius, who she is pale with here as well, but their dynamic has flipped in such a way that she is constantly trying to get him off her back and trying to be her personal bodyguard when she absolutely physically surpasses him. they definitely dont see eye to eye on the hemospectrum, and she often has to resort to COMMANDING him to chill the fuck out about blood. she genuinely loves him anyway, as shown by her proud display of his gutterblood hue on her cute tiger hat, which he is simultaneously mortified and touched by. this nepeta is not particularly interested in shipping, but likes when karkat infodumps about the intricacies of trollian romance to her because of her growing flushed feelings towards him.
2. bronze eridan. this one is lifted almost wholesale from a bloodswap i used to like a lot kekk. hes a malcontented young lowblood with an axe to grind against The System that makes him feel so fuckin inferior. in no small part these ideological leanings are due to wanting to impress the coolest young anarchist in alternia. he doesnt really have sincere beliefs, and vriska (being an EMPATH in lieu of having mindcontrol powers) has clocked this immediately and is unimpressed by his "performative activism". this pushes him towards doing more and more extreme acts of vandalism and… mostly just vandalism. he is attempting to build a "beast army" using his animal psychic abilities, but is a pretty incompetant psychic and just ends up losing control of them and having to beg nepeta to save him (who he has unrequited black feelings towards).
3. teal sollux. i stole the idea of his theme shifting from duality to balance from another swap, cause i thought it was ingenious. he is still a competant coder but is more interested in legal ethics. calls his black-and-white eyes "nuance goggles" (as he is colourblind and sees the world in shades of grey only, ha ha). obsessed with eastern alternian philosophy and very big on the troll dao de jing. often drops troll laozi truisms in the middle of conversations, especially if hes being pushed to take a side during a conflict. is very repressed from trying to hold up his standard of objective, compassionate neutrality.
4. cerulean gamzee. had a tough time with this one. hes an introverted, friendly-enough troll, at least, to those who he needs to keep around. internally he is ruthlessly manipulative and has been subtly influencing events around his friends (is one of the major reasons why the game begins). only terezi knows about his nature after he lashed out and blinded her after an altercation (in this version, he was able to directly mind control her to look at the sun (as her caste is less resistant to psychic interference), and the injury hindered her psionic abilities as well as her vision). she does not discuss this event because she is ashamed of not fighting back, and is afraid of what events she would inadvertently set in motion. he spins a delicate, almost invisible web. once the game starts he takes a backseat position, preferring to play a more sophisticated game with a certain pale sphere.
5. olive feferi. another tough one. she is a very popular young artist whos exuberant expressivity makes her work really pop. doesnt get along well with kanaya as the latter thinks her work is tacky. kind of snarkier than her canon self, her baseline of communication is similar to how she interacted with jade in canon. considered a total square and sellout by eridan, but they grew up in close proximity and have known each other their whole lives so are decently good friends, although sometimes eridan's terminal bitterness about his blood colour makes her uncomfortable.
6. gold terezi. i find its diffult to swap around sollux because its not 100% clear
i havent read postcanon materials or hiveswap and dont intend to how much of his duality theme is Just Him and how much of it is A Gold Thing. clearly i lean towards the latter here. shes an ELITE HAXOR like sollux, but much more aggressively boastful. less directed than sollux, regularly hacks her friends' trollian accounts and posts 2000s style I AM A FAGET stickies. her version of the ~ATH program is riddled with stupid comments to the point where the code is nearly unreadable, beyond just being extremely esoteric. has a very scenekid LULZSORANDUM sense of humour. likes looking edgy and is very sympathetic to and close with vriska.
okay thats all of them. what do you guys think! do you have bloodswap ideas? do you like bloodswap aus?
No. 393678
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>>393677dammit used the wrong teal sollux sprite. see pic related
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i had to wade through the trenches to find a single piece of vrisrezi art that was canon design and not hideous.
No. 393799
>>393794kek im an aquarius so i feel your pain anon. i have a huge soft spot for equius, including the cringe horse and sweat jokes. always found the way he interacted with the other trolls particularly interesting because hes seemingly the only one who really cares about the social rules their whole society is built around.
my opinion of eridan has fluctuated over the years, when he was first introduced i found him really funny and silly and loved the hipster joke. i feel like eridan may be one of those moments of hussie cultural foresight; maybe i was too young at the time to be seeing this, but i feel that "incel" and even "school shooter" with that specific connotation only really became a part of the memetic economy in the mid-2010s. now i really appreciate his place in the story.
the troll i identify the most with is probably kanaya, though. her unrequited crush on vriska early on hit me so hard in my closeted high school years lmfao.
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kek not sure if anyone remembers this particular era of the fandom but picrel is a great representation of the 2011-2013 "tribalstuck" phase
No. 393893
>>393819Peak HS fandom
>>393890Clearly you weren’t there kek
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>>393804>If Act 7 shows them escaping the narrative, then an open-ended conclusion with no sequel is the best choice.This a hundred times! The whole point is that they escape the story (and Hussie's influence) so Hussie writing a sequel (even if it was just the outline) totally ruins all of that. It's like he had some kind of head injury in 2016 that knocked like 50 points off his IQ and he hasn't been the same since.
No. 396356
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detective au vrisrezi interrogation
No. 396357
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>>393819remember "fancy" dreamer cosplays?
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>>396400god do i ever nonna, i actually still see the odd fancy dreamer cosplay in the wild.
>>398110didn't she also make the militarystuck designs in picrel? i never got the appeal of this style but i remember it being fairly popular.
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Did this shit make anyone else cry? I really enjoyed their arc. I think I miss Homestuck just because it has female characters really unlike any other modern franchise, morally ambiguous and for the most part non-sexualized. And they all have their own agency and stories outside of male characters.
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>>398879I liked it a lot. I also just like the concept of ghosts searching for other ghosts from their same timeline, and Terezi using her mind powers to find the right version of Vriska. Honestly, Act 6 is not as bad as people make it out to be. Yeah, the weaker parts are dumb and cringe, but the stronger parts really do shine.
Maybe I'm a soft touch, but I loved the big reunion moments near the end of the story, like with the Lalondes, the Striders, John and Dave, and the scourge sisters. I'm annoyed we never got anything like that for John and Jane or Jake and Jade, (though there was a cute moment with Jane and Nanna). Damn blond kids, always hogging the spotlight.
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Thoughts on Aranea? I personally find the h8 really overblown. Yes the pacing of act 6 was dogshit and her trying to take over dragged it out even more but the idea of her getting absolutely fed up with everyone's disrespect and stupidity and taking over to save the universe was a smart one.
>>398879I despise the vriskagram upd8 as a whole but this part was cute, even if I liked Vriska and Meenah together more.
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>>400464She started as a parody, then Hussie or whichever of his ghostwriters decided she would be the vehicle they'd use to get the plot rolling in Act 6 and use to retcon things. I was indifferent to her character until she got fed up with everyone and hijacked the session, then she became interesting to me. Everyone around her, including her best friend, called her a loser and lame compared to her evil adult counterpart so she decided fuck it, I'll be that person and fix things. I guess that's kind of relatable to me.
It's kind of neat her character development is the reverse of Vriska's (pre-retcon). She starts off nice and helpful, but still annoys people because of her long-windedness. Because people still hate her and won't listen despite her kindness she decides to stop being nice and becomes angry, forceful, and controlling just like Vriska was at the start of her arc. Vriskagram ruined the message of that just like it ruined so much of Homestuck but it was an idea that almost got developed properly.
It's always women characters who get the most hate too. There were so many people despising Aranea for becoming a "bitch" and in the same breath calling Gamzee an uwu baby who did nothing wrong.
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>>392978>I particularly hate when people make Roxy "transmasc" as an excuse to ship her with Dirk.Dear god same here nonna. Lately I've been seeing ship art for them with literal conversion therapy rhetoric and Dirk "unlearning" being a gay man who likes male bodies. It's sickening.
https://twitter.com/hal9000fanboy/status/1811928574053474578 No. 401274
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>>401146Oh my god, it implies that homosexuality is a "prejudice." I want to find this retard and shit in their HVAC.
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>>401274>>401146actually wait a minute, dirk is also transmasc in this apparently? this kind of diminishes all anger i felt for some reason
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>>401281you're right but for me it's just less rage-inducing if it's not a case of a tif using roxy as a vehicle for her homophobic rhetoric…but now that i'm really thinking about it it's just so ooc. dirk's literally allergic to calling himself gay and while roxy jokes around i think she really cares about dirk and wouldn't try to talk him out of his homosexuality. christ
also the way that artist draws roxy pisses me off. so obviously trying to reduce her to some fun giggly glitterfart bimbo character. hate this type of self-despising yumejo
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>>401146>>401274homophobia is woke now
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>>401282He can't even force himself to like her, not only because he's literally not into women, but also because he cares a lot about being true to himself. He already cares about her in a really profound and unique way, and I think she appreciates that for what it is by the end of the story. Not to mention, her attention clearly shifts to John kek
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>>401146>>401274Late, but did you anons know that a moid wrote this? It was drawn by a TiF, but the homophobic dialogue was written by an obese hairy moid. His hand is in picrel.
No. 404354
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>>404230Kek, Funk is a personal cow of mine. Everything he writes centers on troonism, including his project Homestuck AU, a full rewrite of Homestuck starring June. Despite his troon obsession, he's a gender-conforming man with no interest in transition. He flirts with trooning out but never gets further than putting she in his bio and painting his nails before "detransitioning." A lot of troons in the fandom hate Funk for refusing to commit to being a troon himself and for admitting that June has no evidence in the original comic.
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>>404354Here's another sample of his writing. His Twitter is filled with pesterlogs like these.
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>>404354Got any milk?
>>404355Holy shit, why doesn't he just write OCs? Oh nevermind, I already have the answer: his ideas suck too much on their own, so he just leeches off of the Homestuck fanbase. Honestly, when I first came across his Twitter page, I figured he was a low-effort troon, and I was fully expecting to hear an awkward moid attempt at ladyvoice when I viewed one of his videos.
I wonder if writing that gender nonsense comic about Roxy was his way of getting back in troons' good graces. The TiFs ate up that slop, but the TiMs probably don't care for that sort of thing because they prefer TiM Roxy. Interesting how TiMs and TiFs are both trying to self-insert as Roxy.
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>>247993>Favorite characters?>OTPs?>Opinions on the vriskcourse?I can answer all three in one go lol. I like homestuck for its storytelling rather than any individual character (which I think all start off as interesting and full of potential but inevitably end up being boring) but if i had to choose it's Vriska and Tavros, I like how it's a comically
toxic love/hate relationship with a hint of villainess/reluctant henchman dynamic, they're perfect foils to each other AND they're written to be bad on purpose which I find funny as fuck (at least until Hussie lost all self awareness). Too bad most Vriska-only and Tavros-only stans are completely insane, so I always kept as far away as possible from the fandom kek.
I also really like early Rose and her teenage angst. I used to like Terezi and her thing going on with Vriska, but then Hussie started taking her way too seriously which made me hate her, oops.