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No. 366388
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yay
No. 366390
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Do we need to spoiler manga spoilers here or do we just not give a fuck?
No. 366403
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>>366389sorry but I wasn't paying attention at the time, what exactly happened? I looked it up and people are saying she deleted a bunch of the dungeon meshi extra stuff when it got published in the Daydream Hour doodle books, but maybe not all of it made it to the books? Did she just delete illustrations on her current blog
https://nisiryu.blogspot.com/ or was there another one?
daydream hour scans
https://ehscans.com/dungeonmeshi/all
https://archive.org/details/daydream-hour-ryoko-kui-all No. 366421
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Season 2 visual dropped
No. 366535
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My beloved
No. 366653
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>>366575Lol I saw that and remembered the hotspring chapter has him in a towel. He doesn't even have a stomach fold when sitting. I thought people were arguing about Senshi because it made no sense.
No. 366655
>>366575They were just trolling lmfao but it was unfunny ngl
Good for them though they get anachan Mithrun next season
No. 366660
>>366575There's just a couple anons who run around the same three threads calling any non-bishounen character a roidpig. You can see it in the sexism thread and anime thread too. Just ignore them. Unless you post an underage enstars or genshin boy, there's no way they're gonna be happy kek.
>>366653With that being said, Laios is cute, especially in that panel. I like it when people draw him buff or a little chubby too. Just not too big.
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I'm a big fan of gourmet series in general and I love Dun Mesh but if I'm being honest it's never really made me crave anything the way most others in its genre do? It has its own merits but I just don't think it seems all that delicious in the dungeon lol
No. 366662
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>>366658>>366655They'll complain he's not a pretty enough elf boy somehow.
I remember when the canaries where first revealed and people couldn't figure out their genders and were analyzing pic related.
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>>366662Lol I've always loved the androgyny of the Canaries.
Also love how Lycion went to jail for being a furry
No. 366675
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>>366667It's the lesbian cougar for me kek
No. 366914
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>>>/m/366356Marcille's a lonely, sheltered, bookish girl growing up at a radically different rate than the rest of the people in either sides of her lineage. Pretty relatable to lots of people
She's also a yume/romance brainrot girl hehe. As a filthy LaiMar shipper here though, both characters have plenty of similarities and passion for learning especially in relation to the dungeon. By the end of the story, Laios develops respect and admiration (platonic or otherwise) for Marcille
while fundamentally disagreeing with her views about making the life expectancies of race the same, he still respects her fears enough that
the lion knew how to tempt him to want to save her from her loneliness, by making her able to have children and even make him (and Farlyn?) live as long as she dies to accompany her. See the twitch of hesitation in picrel. Do I think Laios likes her? He canonically admires her as a skilled and knowledgeable teammate and then some. Will he ever confess? Probably never but he will in my brain-fic. And I think Farcille have a very similar character dynamic to LaiMar. But I'm just a straight woman who likes straight ships.
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Gonna dump some pictures for fun.
No. 366950
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>>366947Funny and
horny tbh.
No. 366953
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>>366951Bi if you want. But fanfic is free.
No. 366976
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Is the cat actually a girl or os the trans shit real? Please give me an answer I'm confused
No. 367055
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>>366984Don't forget that the succubus chapter highlighted a few things: That
he has deep seated hatred for humans, and it manifests in wanting to be a monster, turning his friends into a monster. And that it specifically sexually involves Marcille giving him a kiss (and a bite) period. I imagine even somewhat getting over the hurdle of hating humans is one thing but he's too autistic to hash out his feelings.
Though, the winged lion's curse shows being with Marcille is not his first greatest wish which truthfully is pretty kek. It's pretty clear to me the author doesn't want them to be canon despite all this of course, it adds to their dynamic that there's things left unsaid on top of a very strong partnership between them.
No. 367057
>>367009>If you want all the character images spoilered that’s too much.Ayrt, Obviously not that kek. Just mentions of like,
succubus marcille or chimera falin stuff like that please.
No. 367079
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>>367077>>367078AYRT, yeah, I agree? This applies to a lot of shipping, where people swear up and down that a ship is practically canon but the ship in question just feels like a very strong friendship. I usually only end up getting being pairings that either have a lot of evidence going for them to the point of being canon or are completely made up as a result kek
No. 367082
>>367079I came in open minded expecting farcille to be canon and just ended on this conclusion. The ship does have some crumbs, like the
bathing scene and Falin blushing when Marcille came close to her. and the character guide book(?) saying she's annoyed of Seuryu.
But that was literally me with my BFF when I found out she had a boyfriend behind my back lmao. No. 367093
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What the hell is the obsession with how canon ships are in here?
No. 367098
>>367095tbh i didn't even mind the fanservice too much…i enjoyed it, it's just that the reception to it was weird and thoughtless. i didn't like seeing hordes of women treat it like it was throwing bricks at stonewall or whatever. which is hypocritical because like i said, i didn't mind it at all
westerners have no concept of yaoi/yuri i think so that's why (getting ot here but) on steam 'boys love' visual novels range from like, dmmd to 'fat black trans queer lgbtqia+' shit
No. 367101
>>367091>fights off monstersYou.mean the ones that
don't come near the kingdom because the curse?
No. 367104
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>>367093It's in the nature of good fiction that the audience uses "clues" from the story itself to gues what happened after the end.
We all know that there is no romance in the story, and honestly I kinda like that. It's like the author slapped me with a no horny stick and said stop thinking everything is about sex, it's very refreshing.
But I still want to see two characters I like end up together, it's in my nature as a filthy shipper.
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>>367098I really enjoyed it in the manga and I'm someone who has avoided a lot of otherwise great manga because of fanservice. I think it's because I trust Ryoko plus I'm starting to think I really like yuri and never really realized it because I hate school stories, which is what most yuri is from.
also this is mostly sparkly tinfoil, but I do feel like Ryoko does feel something towards the ship outside of catering to males…
No. 367112
>>367109I think Falin and Senshi are just innately characters that didn't have as contortion within their spirits to explore, the way Laios and Marcille did
and were exploited by the demon for But I don't like them any less as characters for it– it shows a nice amount of realism, and Senshi was still my fav by the end of the manga.
If we could have gotten a liiiitle more time spent exploring the depth of a character, it would have been Izutsumi for me, but there too I think she's really just not the introspective type. Seeing a spinoff of her eventually would be a delight, though. Her dedicated chapter in the end showed a lot of promise for the person she might mature into.
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Actually, who are your top 3 favorite characters? I want to see how the spread on LC compares to elsewhere.
For me, it's:
1. Milsiril
2. Izutsumi
3. SenshI
No. 367139
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sorry in advance for bringing up textbook troonery but I can't abide when this shit is suggested to me on xitter with thousands of likes. I love dunmeshi and kui ryoko with my entire heart and nothing could turn me against them but my fucking god these people are beyond annoying. it's almost enraging seeing this series catch on with undesirables who are so flagrantly disrespectful to the material
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>>367139also I know, I know, gotta not let illiterate trannies of all people get under my skin to this degree but ffs. including picrel due to an interesting thought brought up by a reply in that thread which pondered–considering elven beauty standards and the POV chapter–if Marci sees Farlin as butch or otherwise masculine kek
No. 367145
>>367142I don't know that Marcille really hold elven beauty standards given that she didn't grow up around many other elves and her father is clearly the one who had more influence over her growing up.
Did we ever get a clear picture of her relatiomship with her mom, actually? It doesn't seem like they're very close at all in present time and I can't imagine her making peace easily with how her mom quickly remarried and moved away after her dad died given how hung up over his death she still is.
No. 367154
>>367139He just looks like other male elves
>>367145Interesting point, but the whole thing about her favorite book series is that the mc is a
half elf so she relates to it No. 367161
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>>367142That's actually true, she seems to prefer when Falin is styled more traditionally feminine
No. 367170
>>367162Forget Marcille, I want to date her wtf
>>367161>>367142She definitely doesn't see Falin as very feminine, but I wouldn't say it has much to do with elven beauty standards? It's just a fact that Falin isn't the type to fuss over her appearance and be "girly", and has been since childhood. Marcille having opinions on that feels like her typical mother henning.
She's definitely not the only one who feels this about Falin too, just look at the general reactions Shuro has gotten for being into Falin.
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I just got these, I love them but Laios's hair doesn't really translate to 3d well
No. 367974
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Is it just me or I quickly grew out of the main party and find the side characters more interesting over time? (don't get me wrong I like them and they're still much better written than many anime slop characters)?
It also bugs me that while Mithrun said the demon prefers uncommon/unique wishes, the demon seemingly grant the most milquetoast wishes possible in the story (from jealous Mithrun, Marcille IMHO boring backstory, even I find Thistle's wish plus his yandere Delgal obsession average, too. The admittedly more interesting one was from our turbo autist but even it's still meh). I'm sure out of so many people there must be more interesting wishes. Though probably those four were the only people ventured deep enough to find the demon
That aside, I find these two really cute! Micky needs to pay Kuro better and give all the food he wants.
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I don’t know about hobbitfuckery, but “he’s not a shota he’s actually a middle aged divorced dad!” is way funnier than a 700 year old dragon
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Chilchuck was great this episode!
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Would you eat from a dryad mug?
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>Based Laois would call trannies out on their autogynephilia not actually wanting to be female
No. 371124
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>>371098NTA but use reverse image search, it pulls up a tumblr and reddit account posting these. looks like it's part of
Delicious in Dungeon World Guide: The Adventurer's Bible but it can't be the one EH Scans released since this definitely wasn't part of that. It must be pages from the "Complete Edition" released in February or something.
https://savaralyn2.tumblr.com/tagged/translation/ (info in the bio says to go to reddit, looks like they're posting them on r/DungeonMeshi under the username Savaralyn and some of the scanlated pages include tags or notes saying take with a grain of salt because it's translated from chinese)
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Sorry wrong thread, have some dungeon meshi art
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LETS GOOO SHE IS HEREEEEE !!!!
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What do you think of the official genderbends?
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>>372678Elves basically just look the same.
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Following the #dungeonmeshi tag on tumblr was a mistake. When it's not transfem headcanons for Falin and weird chimera thirstposting, it's shit-flinging textposts about muh autism and muh microagressions. The big debate right now is between people who woobify Laios for being 'autism-coded' and people who think Laios was being racist towards Shuro, and then people who think that hating Shuro for punching Laios makes someone a racist. It's a mess out there.
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loving all the chimera falin fanart.
No. 374392
>>374374I CBA to track down the exact manga page, but in the scene where Laios first meets Shuro in the tavern he asks him a bunch of obnoxious questions like
>You have a strange appearance, where are you from?>Are there any monsters [in the Eastern Archipelago]?>What kind are they?>etcIt's played for laughs, i.e. Laios being overzealous about monsters and Shuro looking like his lifeforce is draining away, but a certain part of the fandom reads it as Laios committing microagressions against Shuro the fantasy
PoC.
No. 374420
>>374392someone should tell them the author is clearly using the scene as an outlet to express her lived experience of being objectified and microagressed against for her japanese appearance and heritage and therefore it is an extremely
valid scene for her to write and they are actually racist for silencing a
poc victim of racism just trying to tell her story.
No. 374486
>>374018Sperg ahead:
I've seen this and I think it just shows the retarded state of morality online nowadays. People are having quivering meltdowns saying Laios isn't racist he's just autistic and it's like. He's autistic and his inability to read the room does contribute to him being inadverdently racist to Shuro initially. It's not the end of the world kek
But accepting that he's this earth-shatteringly bad thing in their minds that they likely already are (because humans innately hold biases LBR we're all a little racist) is unacceptable to them so it turns into this huge retarded debate when it doesn't need to be.
Ryoko Kui does indeed present a colorful and well-thought out world in dunmesh that comes with a lot of the warts of the real world and I think that's good but the queasy black and white mentality of many online spaces leads to the most annoying fucking commentary on the show.
This annoys me with Chilchuck too, so many newcomer fans have reduced him to a)divorced and b)revolutionary union man and it's cool that these characters zing their epic buzzwords but there's an absolute death of nuance or productive discussion. Instead they just circuitously ruminate on the same feel-good points with the bare minimum amount of memeable character flaw ad nauseum.
No. 374489
>>374374He's diet racist to Shuro by being obnoxious about his exotic origin or whatever when they first meet but it's about as bad as Senshi thinking Chilchuck is a child, aka no biggie
It's a stupid argument to have considering the series they're in. By the same condemning logic in this argument Mick should be forcibly separated from Kuro for not treating him with the trained delicacy of a DEI course on kobold coworkers.
No. 374533
>>374489>>374486Exactly. You could make the point that all the elves are infantilizing a
POC war orphan because they're amazed at how fast Kabru grew and still treat him like a kid. Even Kabru asks Lin if she knows anything about Shuro since they're both Asian, and he's known her since they were kids. Their world isn't as connected as ours, of course they're going to ask retarded questions about people and places too far away for them to know about. If these retarded pearl-clutchers left their online safe spaces for ten minutes they'd understand that none of this bullshit matters.
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I looked at the dungeon meshi tag on tumblr for the first time today and I can't believe how many people ship Laois with Kabru. What an ugly ship. They have negative chemistry and very little in-world opportunity to have built any relationship, not to mention Laois doesn't care that Kabru exists. I swear fandom has no taste anymore. At best, you could make a good yandere stalker slash fic out of their dynamic but that's it. The obvious choice is Laois and Shuro if you have to do a BL ship.
No. 374768
>>374762Most canon fujo ship is
Laios and Lion. You can think what you will of that, but thats just facts.
No. 374771
>>374768you might be right but that would be
furry and my brain puts
furry ships in a separate category entirely.
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You know I try to be understanding of what might be informing people's disagreeable takes but the fact that this is being treated as some revolutionary genius take when it's the most obvious kneejerk interpretation has me convinced that 90% of viewers are just retarded.
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>>374762My main hang up is I don't see why everyone type casts Laios as a top. I think regardless of whatever person he gets shipped with he is submissive.
No. 375790
>>374789I remember when I was reading the manga early last year and came across the panel and thought nothing more than "oh Laios is just being tunnel visioned and awkward."
I understand analyzing what you read is a good thing but it really feels like people are really reaching for some kind of societal issue to virtue signal about over a couple panels that I honestly just saw as a little funny page in the manga. idk
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If anybody was curious about who thought of which version of the cast, here's the answer sheet from the manga
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there's some kind of dungeon meshi exhibit opening in japan where you can take pictures in interactive themed sets and buy merch. it looks cute. the director for the anime has been retweeting pictures from it
https://twitter.com/miyazima1987official site
https://exhibition-delicious-in-dungeon.com/highlight/ No. 376600
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I also very much want the red dragon potholder. I love novelty potholders.
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thursdays episode fanart
No. 376764
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No. 376979
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anyone seen any good cosplay? I saw this chilchuck and laughed but I have not seen anything else worth sharing
No. 377097
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No. 378359
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little marcille in the latest ep was so adorable
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kekkkk 1/2
No. 389924
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laios is seriously getting the hottest fanart
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No. 409985
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>Man with interpersonal conflict
>Autistic
>Man with interests
>Autistic
>Man who cares about social cues
>Autistic
So tired of this retarded fandom.
No. 410025
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>>409997I used to buy this but I highly doubt it unless you mean meme autism/just a guy with unusual interest. Not having interests in humans and his teammates were a genuine flaw he overcomes throughout the story. Picrel from
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/convention/2024/all-the-news-from-anime-expo/making-monsters-delicious-with-delicious-in-dungeon-manga-creator-ryoko-kui/.212570 No. 410035
>>410032It's weird that "obession" is now considering an autistic trait.
Most people I know have a specific interest they're much more likely to bring up in whatever conversation. They're not autistic, they just like a thing and want to talk to others about thing.
Funny enough, Laios's favorite food isn't even monster related,
its normal cheesecake. No. 410045
>>410044We're talking about a moid here, yes these are normal moid thoughts.
Have you never been stuck talking about some gacha or beach volleyball with a guy before?
No. 410047
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>>410044Apathy/ignorance is not unique to autism. He's always been that weird rough housing older brother to Falin, and she tolerated and even loved him for it kek.
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>>410047Same anon, seeing this page again makes me think Laios really hated his dad because it reminded him of himself. He tries so hard not to ever look like his father, and in the end
he rules a group of people, even larger than the village his dad had. I love Kui so much.
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>>410047it isn't unique to autism but laios is an extreme example, i typically think that "this character is autistic" takes have little to no substance, but in his case, i fully understand why everyone thought it was purposeful. i still don't think the interview fully discredits the possibility, as she gave answers as safe as possible without any substance, imo. no one is insisting that people who aren't autistic can't share the same traits, but i don't think its offensive to admit that they're sped traits.
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>>410057I don't think him having autistic traits make him any less of a complex character but the western fandom does make it his entire personality so I understand the frustration. If you're the same person who wrote
>>410047 and
>>410053, I love those posts. Laios is my favorite character in any Japanese media and I'm happy to see such good analysis of him.
No. 410062
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To me Laios's monster interest as well as lack of human interest is closer to that of someone too privileged (and a little insensitive) to understand his position in the world, busies himself in books because no one understands him but also doesn't make the effort to understand his dad and the complexity of his role, which ties in on how tragic it is that he never got to repair his relationship with his dad despite the ending, I like to think he finally understood his father after
years of becoming a king.
>>410058I take you haven't seen twitter/tumblr posts. Good, keep it that way.
>>410059I hate that Dungeon Meshi is cursed with being popular yet I can't have a decent conversation regarding the subtleties in Kui's writing because everyone's too busy misrepresenting it. Changing topic then, I'm very much affected by the implications of the alternate universe where Laios was born a woman and couldn't even leave the village and ends up having an heir because he's not male and can't choose his path, nor magical and talented like Falin who to get in a magic school. I bet Falin wouldn't even go to a dungeon because she loves being with him/her so much more than deepening her knowledge of magic.
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>>410062If you're willing to bypass the language barrier, you may have better luck having meaningful conversations in the Japanese fandom. Comparing the fanart posted on pixiv to those posted on tumblr, the difference is striking. Not all western artists are bad but they still mostly draw shipping and funny memes. Japanese artists seem to take the characters more seriously. Picrel punched me in the guts.
No. 410081
>>410073I've found this to be the case in almost all the fandoms I've been in. So much of the western fandom now is just redrawing memes, character AI interactions, making ocs, fanfiction, snide remarks about how they could write it better, and shipping.
Once I tried to find reactions to some chapter update of an ongoing series, anything I could find in English was just complaining about shipping and writing about how the male character was fuckable.
It wasn't until I started looking at jap comments that I found out an important character died.
No. 410101
>>410073There was something so biblical on
the panels leading to him strangling her. I'll give it a try, I don't really have the energy to make fan art alongside my own project. And I don't know any other way to be accessible to jp twitter, but it's worth a shot. Maybe I'll make a comic, who knows.
>>410081Tbh at this point, I yearn for honest to god girls thirsting for "basic" hot boys without justifying it through kweerness or neurodivergence.
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I've been starting to wonder. In this scene, did chimera falin actually recognized laios or was it just his emotions playing tricks on him? I used to believe the latter since she didn't react to marcille calling for her but I'm not so sure anymore.
No. 410191
>>410123I think a part of Falin still got mixed in there, you can see it in scenes like when she
offers thistle food, it's just Falin being nice. I like the idea of her being deceptive.
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>>410053>>410047Laios daddy issues mostly stem from the fact that he doesn't realize his father is literally him. Issues connecting with the people around him, being perceived as cold and uncaring (it happens to Laios several times, each member of the cast calls him that at least once, even Senshi. Also notice how Laios basically never complains about pain or anything during the show. He literally never cries), seems to hate responsibilities but still forced to have them. This page sealed the deal for me. Laios is just a version of his dad who had people who loved him more and had less reasons to retreat into his shell. I love how easily and elegantly she manages to create tearjerkers without being overdramatic
No. 410384
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>>410322I saw this scene as autism evidences too but that's a much more heartfelt way to look at it. Laios probably always made this kind of comments and it was never a big deal because falin was there to back him up. This episode made me think that falin served as a kind of mediator between laios and the rest of the group. And without her, it becomes apparent that the rest aren't very tolerant of his antics. When falin had found a lifelong friend in marcille, had good relationships with most of the party and was still communicating with her parents, laios didn't have any truly meaningful relationships aside from her. This page supports my point I think. Falin love laios as much as he love her but laios need her a lot more than she needs him. I think laios kinda needed to have falin away from him as to stop relying on her so much. You can see how his relationships among the group improves dramatically over the course of the story. But maybe I have a bit too infantilized vision of laios. You tell me.
No. 410582
>>410313I half wonder if Laios somewhat envied Falin. She just had more gift for adventuring given her magic. She never resented other humans despite being ostracized. Not to mention she got to be the monster Laios would kill to be, kek.
>>410384>Falin love laios as much as he love her but laios need her a lot more than she needs him.Good point, there's also that bit where she comes to pick him up at the army and the guard in charge didn't think they were related because he's so dirty and unkempt compared to her just spells it out how much she has her life together kek.
Typical moid, needing to loose his mom-friend to get ahead in life. No. 410586
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>He looks like her dad.
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>>410322>>410384>>410582I like this. Laios straight up says she is the strongest one of the two, mentally. He becomes a truly grown man only at the end of the manga. I think it's interesting that Ryoko Kui drew him as majestic and fabulous during his crowning. He even manage to give a charming "speech" that makes everyone happy, while still remaining true to himself and his personality, instead of saying something cringe and dumb for a gag like he used to, which is something I find interesting. He really did grow, improve and showed his true self to others only after Falin died and he stopped using her as a crutch, and the path to lead to his growth what the same that lead to her rescue and revival.
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>>410639One of the things I love about Dungeon Meshi is the messages it gives. It's never preachy, boring or overdramtic, it's not some super weird philosophy or social message, yes it's beautifully bittersweet, heartwarming and encouraging
I almost teared up with this page even if it's so silly, just because it was in the context of Marcille's darkest hour and how it alleviated her fears through her friends encouraging her, plus the callback to the silly Senshi moment in the first chapters of the manga.
All the messages are always like this. Things as simple as "even the scraps of vegetables are useful" or "If you want to be free you can't always eat whatever you want"
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>>410210There are so many hints of how similar they are it's crazy.
The fact that they obviously love animals, possibly more than people, yet are still pragmatic about them and come off as cold. For examlle his dad spent as much time as he could hunting with his dogs and those hunting dogs were the only thing that gave them an emotional connection. When his dad suggests to euthanise Rag because he wouldn't be a good hunting dog, being a mutt, it's easy to see it as an antiquated cruel boomer scrote moment and Laios and Falin protest until he relents, but then during the story Laios does the same exact thing regarding Anne and other "friendly" monsters. It's like he forces himself to be cruel and cold, and I believe Laios dad is the same.
Even pic related, the dog respect chart, it made me realize something about my real life. My dad was the one who fed our house dog almost every day, and the dog always did everything he said and never did things like jump on top off him, take things out of his hands, pull the leash etc (which she always did to me lol, she never bit anyone but she clearly had no issue being a rascal towards me).
She also never did anything like that towards my brother despite him doing nothing special at all, and she always obeyed him. I realized through Dungeon Meshi that it was because my dad and by brother are so similar in personality and mannerism she most likely felt he ought to be respected as well.
People like to call Ryoko Kui autistic but she has an incredible understanding of people and relationship, like she can read through them.
Maybe Kabru is based on her lel
No. 410648
>>410384ayrt, and just want to say that there's nothing wrong with seeing it as autism evidence, I should have specified that it's seeing it as
only an autistic thing that bothers me, not the interpretation itself sorry. I'm just tired of things anyone might experience or feel being cordoned off as uniquely felt by x or y group.
Agree with what you said about Laios too– in a way, the whole story is a result of 'what if we removed the character that is the glue of this group', as Falin's absence allows everyone to grow and engage in things they otherwise might not have if the event leading to and her death never happened. It's very bittersweet, but her death resulted in all of the main cast becoming closer or even just meeting one another. A good example is Marcille and Laios, who are clearly familiar with each other at the start of the story, but in a distant sort of way that's a little prickly, then they come to understand and better rely on each other more once they don't have Falin who, bless her, was a 'barrier' to that by being such a good mediator.
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>>410637I know we meme about Laios being autist and callous but he's actually pretty tactful and has had a lot of legit good pep talks when things get serious. Also
> Ryoko Kui drew him as majestic and fabulous during his crowningHe found a happy medium between his chuuni fursona and looking like a respectable human being ♥
>>410644That's such a good eye pointing out the detail regarding putting down animals.
>People like to call Ryoko Kui autistic but she has an incredible understanding of people and relationship, like she can read through them.THIS is what I think about tbh. As a tangent, I think a lot of autism label is so useless when the said autist person can function and adjust well in a society and I feel like it should be reserved for non verbal or non functional autist who do need the attention, resources and help. I myself used "autist" in my posts in the imageboard meme definition. But it's like Kui read through
my privileged life and predicted how people like me never made the connection to my own parents because I'm too busy navel-gazing and wishing the world would burn already. I yearn to learn to write like her so much.
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>>410702Likewise I also do want to point out how Marcille has very similar broad strokes in character arc to Laios. I caught up with manga as the anime was about to air and I had no idea Marcille
was going to be the final villain sort of. It also surprised me how well Kui tied the casual monster eating spec-fic of the earlier arcs to the larger set piece ending. I believe they're all tied down by desires and compromises. Both Marcille and Laios lived privileged but sheltered and isolated childhoods. Marcille was gifted with magic, and Laios had his monster fascination. Due to their isolation, they both developed their idea of a utopia that we find out
doesn't really apply well in reality. Their worlds broaden with the colorful cast they meet, each with their own goals and ideals. I love the bold choice of making Marcille
the successor of the dungeon, probably because Laios made the final push accidentally, but still makes sense in character, before he realizes what we want isn't always the best. AHHH I love it when characters parallel arcs with each other, I love you Kui!!! No. 411036
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i hate my life
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>>411036>>411065She knew what she was doing.
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I can't believe laios and marcille got drunk together till late at night after defeating thistle. That's the kind of stuff you only do with people you feel the most safe and comfortable with. They've come so far I love them so much.
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>>411097I personally love them and their growth. Coworkers to trusted
life companions #and biggest advocate of each other##.
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Can't even make an excuse for performative ugly man yaoi crackship chill/senshi kek
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What do you guys think of laios's change of expression in this scene from the first publication to the finished volume? Was the smile too inappropriate or did it serve a narrative purpose? This is the kind of details that I'm autistically obsessed with.
No. 426210
>>425678Laios isn't good at faking emotions. The top panel is how
he wants to look like, so Falin feels reassured and cared for, while the bottom panel is a more accurate rendition of the facial expression Falin would have seen.
Also his smile is uncanny and would go into the Evil Laios compilations.