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Fucking thank you anon.
Love the thread pic as well. Perfect choice.
So, anons, what anime has recently disappointed you? I mostly like seinen so I usually stick to reading manga but sometimes I am tempted to watch some original series. I need to have really good reason to give it a shot cause most hyped anime series either end up having retarded characters, pandering scenes, shit pacing or all of above and some pedophilia mixed in for a good measure.
I would love to watch a recentish (or super old and obscure) original anime that is not crap, any recs?
From my side I loved Ima, Sokoni Iru Boku when I watched it a few years back, though I need to warn any farmers willing to give it a shot that there is an abortion related scene you might not agree with (though IMHO it makes sense from the main character's limited point of view, it still slightly irks me).
It's a tragic anti-war fairytale that gets quite heartrending.
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Araburu Kisetsu no Otome-domo yo, i give it a try and at fist i like it, the animation was good, the girl look normal and not sexual, but then with all star wint the sex talk,is was okay, they are girls and they will talk about sex and wanting to do it, but for some reason i feel gross out the more into the episode i was,it was uncomfortable for some reason, i'm only in episode 1 but for what i have seen o the rest i don't think i will continue is uncomfortable in some many areas, maybe is becase even if is nromal for girl to talk about sex and all that i know thet men will be ther fantasizing boute teen girls fantasizing to have sex or maybe i'm been to dramatic i really don't know
I read a couple of chapters of that one and kind of dropped because of the weird relationship between the writer girl and her teacher.
If you want some nice manga about girls dealing with life, sex, relationships and comming of age I think Takako Shimura's "Musume no ie de" does it better.
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It really pisses me off that this could've been so good, but the author chose the pedo route.
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it was pedo from the start anon, the art was a major give away tbh.
I mean, it's uncomfortable as fuck to spot some of the weird fetishes hidden in the art and writing but I'm not dropping it yet because there's some legit interesting concepts and body horror. But yeah, the artist specially is a huge pedo and fuck that penis shaped mascot character introduced in the moth village.
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>>40259>penis shaped mascot character
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I just want to bitch about manga for a minute. I used to collect physical volumes (english) but I’ve been turning to pirating digital copies because so many series are out of print. It’s really annoying that I have a bunch of series I can’t finish collecting because scalpers charge outrageous prices for the books.
More series are getting officially translated which is nice but the translations are dropping in quality, so I don’t buy a lot of new stuff either. Dorohedoro and Kimetsu are perfect examples of awful translation.
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>>40247>what anime has recently disappointed you?
Everything that could have gone wrong with 7seeds went wrong.
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I want the anime industry to chill and draw as normal facial expressions as possible.
WTF is this.
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I can't say that I'm surprised. I'm the anon that posted this hilariously bad art that Netflix used in some thread a while back.
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Worst anime I've ever seen goes to "Wolf Girl and Black Prince"
> MC is a girl who lies about having a boyfriend to her friends. She accidentally uses a pic of a hot guy who she later finds out goes to their school, and then has to beg him to keep it a secret that they're not dating. Hot guy becomes an actual abusive jerk, calls her his dog and demands that she do whatever he wants in return if he goes along with it. She does his errands reluctantly until she starts to ~love~ him and then does everything he wants gladly while he makes fun of her and demeans her. She literally confesses that she loves him multiple times and he laughs in her face and calls her an idiot. He buys her a necklace as a "collar" and she cries…of happiness. MC clearly has no self-respect.
I got through like 7 episodes and had to stop. The secondhand embarrassment was too much.
I'm usually into shoujo animes but this one shouldn't even exist because it could serve as a terrible example to young girls as what "love" looks like.
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Never mind, I've answered my own question.
Why is there so much shoujo where the male lead is an abusive
turd and the girl has no spine? I like shoujo but this trope seriously gets to me. I instantly drop anything where the male lead is an obnoxious twat from the get-go.
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It's okay, anon. You can say Mayu Shinjo
Just kidding, 80% of shoujo is like that. She's the worst offender though.
Saged for mango in the anime thread.
Blame Hana Yori Dango I suppose. the fans ate up the abusive
asshole so much the mangaka ended up setting him to win at the end instead of the nice guy. I guess it was very influential for shoujo and romance.
Imo this was a bigger trend in the 00s rather than in today's manga? It seems like nowadays male leads are more tsundere than anything. But to be honest right now the only shoujo comics getting translated are chinese or korean webcomics REEEEEEE
. And shoujo anime adaptations are so rare in general. What's airing right now, Fruits Basket, and that's it? A lot of great shoujo manga will never really be popular based on the fact that they don't get an anime.
While we are on the topic, the isekai otome trend has to die as soon as possible. It's only marginally better than its shonen counterpart.
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Samefag but I had to dig up this scene I remembered from years ago where they literally tied her up and dragged her behind a car because they thought she was cheating on the dude from F4.
From what I've seen japanese girls seem to really like that trope.
I think it's why characters like Bakugou Katsuki and kokichi Ouma are so popular, they just really love mean psychos.
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funny how now and then, here and now was literally an isekai but done decently. i think the problem with most isekai anime is that most of it is TOO wish fulfillmenty. i think twelve kingdoms is also considered isekai, but i've heard people say it's good.
i love abelia's design>>40260
just watch kimetsu no yaiba
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Inspired by comments from /ot/
Kill La Kill just isn't that good. The characters don't really have satisfying arcs or depth, they are exceptionally thin characters. Satsuki is the closest to having real development but its quite slight. The animation is good but the fight scenes just aren't that good by contrast. The characters don't really get a chance to be clever in how they fight, they don't interact much with the environment, don't get to experiment or strategize much. The fight scenes have lots of flashy movements and swooshes but that isn't the same as having tight choreography. The conflict of having to get over the embarrassment of wearing such a skimpy outfit to unlock their powers isn't just stupid, it's boring and robs the characters of more interesting quandaries. Being skilled at fighting is about screaming harder and getting nuder. That could be OK for an ecchi but people were praising the show as being intelligent. The physical conflicts don't have intelligent solutions. The environmental design is bland and the sound design is likewise. The soundtrack isn't bad but it is very repetitive and there are times where I don't think it's mixed well with very abrupt transitions (I'm thinking they had time constraints).
And yeah I haven't even touched on the themes that people actually defend as deep. Kill La Kill has as much depth as a tea saucer. The show is an exposition dump that is unable to communicate its themes with nuance. The conformity and tyrannical hierarchical nature of their world is shown in a cartoonish way while treated with utmost seriousnes. The underlying story (life fibers being parasitic aliens) is just stupid.
The show would have been a lot better had it not tried to justify it's absurdity with faux-depth and just embraced being a cartoonish action ecchi comedy.
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Another 'overrated' anime: FLCL (Fooly Cooly)
It isn't overrated because it is a bad show but because people carelessly recommend it not being aware of how the show is more impactful if you're a young teen boy. I watched it as a teenager and thought it was alright but I could tell it was more affecting for guys. I rewatched it as an adult and my position has just strengthened. I really just cant recommend FLCL to an adult that has never seen it. You need to be a teen to really appreciate the show and it is magnified if you are male. I don't think it's a very coherent story and in fairness I don't think it is trying to be, its strengths are more in successfully evoking certain feelings and capturing the spirit of a particular point in time and emotional/physical development. I just don't think it will succeed at doing this for anyone older than say, 20. Its overrated in that people rate it because they saw the show at the perfect age to enjoy it and they recommend it to people who are past that window of time. I won't begrudge a 15 year old boy from enjoying it and might recommend it to him but I don't think it is worthwhile recommending it to a 24 year old woman by contrast, basically.
Agreed that (like many other popular anime), it's overrated because men relate to it and what they enjoy is always lauded as the best. But even ignoring that, I disliked it mainly for stylistic reasons which other people loved. >excessive frenetic visuals and overanimated to the point of visual assault on the eyes (eg the manga scenes)>Haruko's obnoxious VA in both languages>same noisy rockband for the entire OST (good songs but no fucking variety)>lolsorandumb humour>fanservice will always bother me even if the series is literally about puberty
I can admit this comes down to taste but god I just found the whole thing obnoxious. I don't mind crazy styles to an extent, but I just think it was trying too hard and went over the top… this scene exemplifies everything I hated about it.
>>40459>i think twelve kingdoms is also considered isekai, but 've heard people say it's good.
It is extremely good, and it is isekai by definition. It just lacks all the shitty cliches and tropes now associated with the genre, having a based femc makes all the difference.
The only criticism I have to make is that the series is unfinished and I desperately wanted closure. And I guess it's a bit slow to get into, but I loved it from the start anyway.
This reply is a reminder of why this anime is so hard to critique, because I completely agree and yet I don't think it's a bad show. It is probably one of the most subjective series I can think of. When rewatching it I didn't particularly enjoy it and the story was still batshit and yet it was still pretty evocative. It is as popular as it is because it aired on Adult Swim and is one of the only pieces of media that was airing at the time I can think of that treated the core theme (about the transition from childhood to adulthood) in a sincere way. Most anime utterly fails even though most is aimed at the same audience of teen boys. And I don't think there are many good live action alternatives either. But it's just too kooky, too spastic, and simply not very funny
Does deserves a reputation for being heartfelt? Sure. Does it deserve to be considered great? Absolutely not. DIVISIVE is probably the adjective it deserves best but I rarely hear it described that way.
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Ii read the 5 first volumes of the Twelve Kingdoms novels and they're great. I don't think the anime is too different from what I've been told, except a few details. So I guess I can recommend this series too. I also like Vision of Escaflowne, it's also "technically" an isekai, but there's a real plot. There's a love triangle between the heroine and two of the main guys but it's really nothing fanservicey or important. Speaking of 90s anime and fantasy, Slayers is great as well. It's not an isekai though, but it's obviously inspired by JRPGs like Dragon Quest like many modern and trashy isekai, there's a plot, it's funny, there's action and again, not that much fanservice compared to modern anime even though it was fanservicey at the time. And the main character, Lina, is really good.
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I got that same feeling from 'Good night punpun', 'neon genesis evgalion' and 'welcome to the NHK'. These works are OK to the average viewer, but if you're the intended audience, depressed goalless teen/young adult, it's amazing. The problem comes when people try to recommend stuff like this, as you said, to the non intended audience. It comes off as lame and overhyped.
I fucking love all of those, dunno what it says about me. Any more recs like this? Personally I would add Aku no Hana and anything by it's author.>>40501>it's just utena for scrotes. At least its not full of irritating filler though
Filler or no filler, Utena is still god tier anime, especially when compared to a fanservice infested turd like Kill la Kill.
Personally I didn't enjoy the surrealist comedy in Utena that much, but it can be argued that even those 'filler' episodes revealed something about characters.
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I know it's been said 1,000 times but My Hero would be so much more enjoyable without Mineta
. He's a shitty creepy character and the fact that he's a self insert makes it even worse.
Makes me happy to know that majority of fans hate him and it makes scrotes that defend him seethe. >>40438
Yes, exactly! I hate it so much.
I get liking characters like that as a joke because they're just so ridiculous, but wanting a relationship with a character like that? Nah. >>40443>I think girls in general have a tendency to like asshole characters in fiction and especially anime where they can explore the "i'll be the only one he loves it'll be us against the world uwu~" fantasy without it actually harming them (provided they don't pursue these relationships irl, which of course some of them still might).
This too! Doesn't help when mental illness gets involved.
I think Japanese girls have more of a tendency to do this than westerners. But I've definitely met my share of westerners that love characters like that lmao.
Hell, I've seen dudes doing questionable voice acting skits for characters like Bakugo. Through the majority of the damn thing it's him calling the listener stupid,a dumbass, etc.. but teens/adults in the comments eat it up.
It's all a very bizarre scene.
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Tbh I like an asshole anime boy and have a shrine for him. So I am that weirdo.
I would say he's attractive to me, but I certainly wouldn't date a person like him irl, since he's really fucking mean.
But his meanness was what attracted me to him. He was impossible not to notice because he was just an unrepentant sadistic prick. In an anime about teamwork and power of friendship full of cookie-cutter shonen stereotypes, he was a breath of fresh air. Characters like this attract attention. You either love them or hate them, there's usually nothing inbetween and it's probably the reason the more vocal fans of "bad" characters are that much noticeable.
I often gravitate towards assholish characters just because for me they are more interesting to observe. I really like Kokichi Oma, for example, there's never a dull moment with him. But I think if I knew him irl, I would have bashed his head in.
What I don't get is abusers/assholes in romance manga/anime. They're good for a rival character or a villain, not someone you should lust after.
Eh. I like memes. I think they fit into DR fairly well esp considering how the third game played out in the end. A big shitty meme.>>40540
MAJOR SPOILERS. Like, the entire game spoiled.It's actually 53rd Danganronpa game in-universe, they live in the world where killing games became hit reality TV and a group of "DR devs" takes killing game fanboys and brainwashes them into new personalities and having talents. All the characters actually wanted to participate, but had their memories changed. Junko is nowhere to be found, there is 0 connection to the overall plot, Kiibo kills himself to save others, Tsumugi is the mastermind. Also it's implied that they're in simulation either way or that they're fictional and it's the players fault that killing games continue since we made Danganronpa series popular. Basically "you are all shitty fanboys and terrible people for wanting to play a game about teenagers dying, fuck off, we're not making a next one"
I find it so fucking hypocritical when the creators shit on their fans.
"We're tired of makinf the same thing because you like it" - well, no one forced you really?
"You are a bad person for liking bad things" - well you made
them in the first place?
Also like, we pay you. Literally help you stay alive. So shut the fuck up. Just make a different game, you're popular enough that people would buy anything from you.
The same shit happened with Kojima, but he kept making games every time. I doubt he'd stopped with MGS if not for Konami. That fake posturing makes me sick.
>>40556>I realized I had no room to talk because I had refused to "get in the robot" at least a hundred times and without ever having anything as rational as giant monsters to fear.
This really speaks to me anon because it's exactly how I felt re-watching the series over a decade after I saw it the first time. I watched it first when I was around 12-13, then the second time when I was in my mid 20's. As a kid I thought Shinji was so fucking annoying and selfish and just didn't get why he'd rather sacrifice the half-crippled girl than get in that goddamn robot himself, but as an adult I really felt the panic, fear and disgust Shinji had for the whole situation an only felt anger towards the adults pushing these poor kids over their limits.>>40580
I really want to unspoiler this because I haven't played DR3 (only the first two) and I've heard people talk endlessly about what a big fuck you the ending was to the fans but I don't want to spoil myself, is DR3 worth the trouble? Maybe I'll just watch a playthrough.
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Well… If you like the mechanics, sure, go for it. It adds a very interesting twist in the form of perjury and it was kinda difficult for me to figure it at my first run, so even a dangan veteran would be interested. Minigames are also much better now, more fair. There are also minigames in-story and though they're completely optional, they can be a nice timekiller/training for trials. But don't expect great plot or resolving any plot points from before. It's a completely different plot in the same universe, there is no connection besides a couple of callbacks to Junko and Remnants. Murders are still interesting and hard to figure out in their insane complication, characters still have great chemistry and interactions, but the overall plot is mostly contrivance and 4th wall breaking. Some of the characters are still scrappy though, even those who get to live for a while, but it's a problem in any Danganronpa.
Also the characters in the 3rd game are even more over the top than before so that might not be your cup of tea. Especially Miu Iruma and Kokichi Ouma get a lot of hate for being fucking obnoxious game-ruiners for many. They were confirmed to be written this way though and I didn't mind. Miu is a sadomasochistic degenerate and Ouma is Komaeda on even more crack basically.>>40591
Still, Izaya is the only character from Durarara I remember, because the rest of the cast was extremely bland to me. So he has a point in existing.
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So, a crazy arsonist just burned KyoAni's studio and caused the death of 33 people.
This is so sad, the industry might lost one of the best studios out there and the victim family and friends must be suffering a lot.
There's no details as of yet for his "motives" but
>"He seemed to be in pain, irritated and suffering, but also angry as if he was resentful. I heard him saying something like 'you copied it'," a neighbour said.
>The Asahi Shimbun newspaper quoted a 61-year-old neighbour as saying she clearly heard the man shout: "You ripped me off."
Wtf, he's probably just a psycho but even if someone did copy his work that doesn't make that kind of vicious crime justified.
I never got the hype around that show. Gave it a chance, watched like 4 episodes but couldn't get into it.
I found it to be so boring even though I'm a huge fan of sports animes and ice skating in general. The fanservice also got old real quick. The fanbase also didn't help.
Having a show with canonically gay characters participating in a flamboyant sport is a recipe for attracting a fanbase full of crazy fujos and fundas.>>40770
Just saw this on twitter jfc it's so sad.
I've seen people offering donating sources to help them rebuild again at least.
I absolutely love shows like Little Witch Aca. It was the only anime I finished completely. I like some anime movies too, but I'm not sure the ones I'm thinking of are counted as anime and are just animations.
BNHA is too cringy for me to handle. Ppl praise it for being new when it really isnt. >>40774
YOI. Is a fujoshi shitfest. I 100% understood it's popularity being praised as an openly gay anime. It's so easy to see with a huge male cast, the pairings and noncon fics are endless. AO3 keeps YOI alive.
I confess that I don't give a flying fuck about BNHA like any shonen anime/manga (well, except for Innocents Shounen Juujigun, but that's a fucked up seinen posing as a shonen manga to play with the typical tropes).
I am so tired of hearing about BNHA everywhere and everyone constantly recommending it. Why do people assume that everyone must like shonens if they like manga/anime?
If you sit down to watch YOI just as "fujopandering bullshit" it's probably hard to convince you otherwise. However it was one of the best animes I've ever seen because it realistically portrayed the pressures placed on you when you're at the top and lose your inspiration and enthusiasm. The relationship between the two main characters started out meme-worthy during the first few episodes but it's one of the most heartfelt ones I've seen and they had a ton of very organic moments treated with respect despite being a gay couple.
YOI was definitely worth the hype and I absolutely hate it how it was branded as just le cringy yaoiz xDDD because small minded people judged it on the premise. I have a semi-professional hobby similar to figure skating and I very much felt every sense of emotion Yuuri and the other skaters felt during the competition because I had been there. It's a sports anime first, romantic drama anime second and gay anime third.
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>>40779>BNHA is too cringy for me to handle. Ppl praise it for being new when it really isn't.
Not to sound like the anti anime thread but even as a weeb I think watching anime in general is cringry. That's just me though.>>40784
I think people recommend BNHA specifically is because not only is it very popular atm, but because it's about super heroes/action which is something most people can get into.
Especially, if you're from the US. Super heroes are very popular here with nerds and normies alike.>>40787>If you sit down to watch YOI just as "fujopandering bullshit" it's probably hard to convince you otherwise.
Whoa hang on there. I watched YOI assuming it was going to be really hype and exciting because so many people liked it. I think it could've been better but the fanservice really cheapened it imo.
I will say the YOI opening and endings songs went hard tho.
I'm the anon you've responded to. Initially, I didn't view YOI as fujopandering bullshit when I first viewed it - that happened over time lmaoo. Definitely the portrayals of certain things, such as anxiety, figure skating as an art and sport, and the relationship btwn Victor and Yuri were things I could respect, but you would be lying if you said the fujo pandering isn't the reason why YOI is still alive and kicking today. >>40793
BNHA is praised for all its originality when I view it as any other shounen, including all of its cliches. Yes, midoriya is different from your typical shounen protagonist - demeanor and all, but watching I couldn't help but notice similarities with many shows it shares genres with and all the moments where midoriya has his kamehameha texas roadhouse shit. Plus the vast array of side characters I don't give a shit about. Maybe it's just me not liking shounens and preferring animes that actually subvert expectations like Mob Psycho and One Punch Man. >>40788
Same anon. Just talking about it makes me wanna rewatch everything.
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The banquet twist is legitimately one of the best romcom twists of all time. It was executed perfectly - everything made sense without it, but made even more sense with it, and completely changed your perspective on the characters and their relationships. People are way too blinded by the 'fujopandering' (aka an actual gay romance written by women who made it as canon as the higher ups let them, which would never be doubted if one was a woman) to recognize how good so much of it is, by any standards. I'm a sports-animefag and I've see/read a lot of it, and YOI is way up there. I've always said that adult characters at an elite level elevates a sports series to new heights thanks to higher stakes and more variety than just repetitive highschool games, and YOI proved it beyond a doubt.
And yeah as shit as /a/ is, watching YOI with them was one of the most fun experiences I've had watching anime. All those theories about Victor being hitler and then switching to Yuuri being hitler were hilarious. They're always gonna be Baldfat to me.
>>40799> but you would be lying if you said the fujo pandering isn't the reason why YOI is still alive and kicking today.
Even though it's true that the gay tones contributed to its popularity I really dislike it when people think the plain existence of gay characters is "fujo pandering" and it's not fair to dismiss YOI as such. They were more tame about their relationship than most shitty heterosexual isekai harems or school romcoms. There's fujo pandering and then there's gay representation, fujo pandering is baiting girls to ship two pseudo-gay male characters by putting them in compromising situations for chiney tingles, not actually exploring a real romantic relationship the characters have. I feel it's important to have well-written gay characters because, well, gay people exist and they often don't get a fair representation in the media. You get fujo pandering series all the time in anime and none of them made it as big as YOI did, so there's definitely something more to it.
I should know, I walked into the series already being angry about retarded fujobaiting and pandering and instead got an amazing experience with one of the best written romances I've seen in an anime. I still get chills thinking about the ending, goddamn. >>40801
Christ anon, are you me? These are my exact thoughts about the series as well. The sheer idea of having actual adult characters (Everyone nearing or over their 30's) dealing with their situation as a critically acclaimed professionals was like a breath of fresh air after all the high school sports dramas with the zero to hero settings.
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Damn, it takes me back. The theories on /a/ were crazy and I seriously expected the anime to be some crazy intense shit like Attacker You! or Glass no Kamen since the intended audience for YOI was young teenage and adult women. You know, these shojo sports anime where everything was super dramatic and the protagonist would become friends with her teammates until one of them seemingly stole her boyfriend or put thumbtacks in her shoes? I expected this shit with Viktor. Remember when people speculated near the end of the series that Yurio wanted separate Viktor and Yuri not because he wanted Viktor to coach him but because he had a crush on Yuri? Shit was crazy.
And yeah, having adult protagonists was a nice change. I don't really read manga all that much or watch new anime anymore because I started getting bored with teenage protagonists. Or I found them more and more annoying.
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I know this is an anime made for scrotes but I've seen my fair share of girls liking it.
>the only cool characters are the MC and the tomboy
>almost every girl has a mental age of 5
>dumb drama the girl the MC picks dies but it's all a dream
Old Key is a shitfest.
see I hated izaya, shizuo, and mikado but liked the rest of the cast lmao
plus his design was fucking ugly and animated badly in all the seasons idgaf what anyone says that guy was fucking hideous and anyone who calls him a sexy bishounen deserves scorn, god izaya is uggo>>40788
lwa was a great series, although I wish they'd had more focus episodes on sucy and such since she was my favorite character. I like how wholesome a show it was and that the girls were cute but more realistic and less stereotypical (and I love weird goth girls like sucy), my only complaint was that some of the other characters became out of focus in the second half. the only thing that bothers me is that like most shows with a nearly all female cast I'm not a fan of the yuri shipping fandom, then again that's how I feel about fujoshits in male dominated shows (cough free!fandom haikyuu!!fandom cough)
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What the FUCK, Netflix? The new Saint Seiya is so ugly.
Apparently she's 16-17.
I have played the visual novel (as a nostalgia trip as I also watched the anime as a young teen) recently and while I enjoyed it, I felt uncomfortable with the relationship between Yukito and Misuzu (and the other girls, though I didn't care about them much TBH) because it reminds me of child grooming so much. She's a lonely, isolated teenager from a lowkey abusive
family with a maturity of an 11 year old and Yukito's this 21 y/o man that becomes her best friend and lover/sweetheart.
Kanon is even worse, because the fox girl is a loli and don't get me started on Ayu who's a ghost of a 6 year old walking around in a teenage body When I was with my online pedo bf I hardcore idolized Ayu and wanted to be adorable just like her, so that he would love me. Barf.
For some reason, I still like those series, but that's mostly to ill-placed nostalgia and comfiness. I cannot deny they are fucked up.>>40903
there are no sex scenes for Michiru (the bratty kid). Again, Kanon is much worse in that regard. Each girl does have sex scene, including the kid fox girl.
Go block the fire exits, light a fire with over 10 gallons of highly flammable and explosive gasoline in ANY small building in the west, start slashing at people with knives while throwing more gasoline at them and see how fast people make it out alive. The "hurrr shitty japanese fire codes they essentially murdered their employees!!!" discourse is so fucking retarded it blows my mind. People using the worst mass murder in the modern history of Japan as some sort of a piggyback horse to hate on the Japanese and the anime industry. I'm speechless. >>40896
The more I see these "Netflix animes" I'm starting to believe the tinfoil hat theory about Netflix trying their best to ruin anime to get competition out tbh.
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>>40799>his kamehameha texas roadhouse shit
I personally like all the side characters tho.
On another note, all you YOI fan anons are adorable and your passionate reasons for liking the show have convinced to maybe give it another chance. You can't convince me that the dog isn't the best character out of all of them though.
With my own eyes I see the total lack of fire escapes in the building. The roof was locked. There were no sprinklers. The blame is on the company.
Also I'm not hating on anime, I like kyoani. But this is a critical thread where you can say uncomfortable negative things isn't it. This was an abject failure by the authorities, both in the government and in the company for allowing such an office to exist.
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As someone who loves Kill la Kill, I fucking hate it when people dig and dig for the dEePeR mEaNiNgS of the show instead of just taking it for what it's supposed to be: an over-the-top pile of clichés, puns, and stupid humor. I always perceived it as both a satire and love letter to the tropes of anime, playing its ridiculousness completely straight (as anime often does) while still dialing everything to 11 in one way or another. It's fun, stupid garbage and there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, for god's sake, the very conception of the series is based on a play on words. It ain't that deep.
It really speaks to the almost obsessive nature of current fandom that you can't enjoy something as-is and you have to analyze everything for more profound, "hidden" meanings and parallels.
fire escape, anon, if you're still around. research more into them. they're literally not used anymore.
fires are not standard, and the water wouldn't have even helped.
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like a lot of anime, I feel like it's one of those shows you'll like a lot more if either a) you can relate to it, or b) you can get some kind of power-fantasy satisfaction from it (like I assume a lot of people who watch it get). It's got fun fight scenes, a """cool""" main character, etc., so a lot of people are gonna be drawn to it.
that being said, I could relate to spike in a way. Yes he's a bit of a power fantasy, and sure the girlfriend shit is kind of cliche but the point is less the girl herself and more the fact that he just cannot get over her, or any of his past. He's aloof, indifferent, lazy; it's part of his personality to not get excited about new things, to not like things or people. He is always complaining about people he can't stand and things he hates, things he wants and can't have. As a result he has no choice but to remain hung up on the bad things that happened to him – his past is an indelible part of his worldview because he is simply not present in the present (exemplified by his having one eye that sees the present and one that sees the past). In this way he's the opposite of a power fantasy because it is far from empowering to never find satisfaction in life – to have people who love you and never appreciate their love because they don't match up to the bullshit standards you've made up for yourself. To have no fear of death, not because of courage but because you are too cowardly to live. When you live like this for too long, you don't fear death in a way (or at least, you think you don't) because you feel like you never got to live in the first place, and now, for reasons real or perceived, it's "too late" for you to live. The thing in my past that I can't get over is very different than the things tormenting Spike, but like Spike my past trauma colors my interactions and relationships, and sometimes I think death is preferable to living because I'm hung up on the idea that the woman I might have been if not for my trauma is
dead, and the "me" that replaced her is an unworthy stand-in. It's not cool, or badass, to live under the influence of such a cowardly hopefulness.
sorry for the spergy wall of text lol. I didn't even really experience any of these emotions or connections while watching Bebop, or even like Spike that much – they're just conclusions I came to in hindsight when I couldn't stop thinking about the show days after watching it and was trying to figure out why. I still wouldn't put the show at a 10/10 because I think it tried too hard to be cool sometimes.
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>>40896>shun is now a women because we are woke // we won't use the amasones becase how care about them lol
>Seiya voice actor is noob and can't even do his job
>shit 3d animation
i'm not going to lie i was happy at fist but since the shun is a women now fiasco (imanage related because this man is the whiter, answer why He didn't use camaleon june in the reboot) , i can't wint untel this is over so the fandomes dies once more urgh for what i know is 19 episodes ??
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Honestly, the style and world of Bebop was enough for me to like it. Its a great mix of styles and influences and i appreciate that, even more know that all anime takes place in the same isekai fantasy world.
The characters are all noir archetypes so by design they feel kinda cliche, but I did loved Edd though.
Also, Yoko Kanno´s ost is amazing and she deserves de praise she gets for it. She made some of my favorite anime´s osts.
Personally, i like Samurai Champloo much better, all the same reasons as Bebop + the main the characters are more iconic for me too but always enjoyed Bebop too.
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>>40779>BNHA is too cringy for me to handle. Ppl praise it for being new when it really isnt.
Yeah, could not handle the loudness, everyone is screaming or crying loudly ALL the time, its overly melodramatic and overacted even for anime. Also the female characters are all used for fanservice and its way too on the nose.
But i get why is popular, Is nothing new but its the current shounen action thing, its pretty much DB or Naruto but for a newer generation, it has all the tropes fanbois like, the pretty girls ethots like cosplaying as and decent sakuga and fight scenes.
Personally the only current show i like is Mob Psycho . also One Punch Man , have not seen S2 of OPM but i´ve heard is dissapointing and much lower quality production wise which is sad.
Before those the only one i remember really loving was Ping Pong The animation.
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No wholesomeness in my anime critical.
Shit I love champloo.>>41106
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This anime is perfect, don't @ me.
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It's just old. Aria the Animation is from 2005. If that bothers you, the manga is beautiful.
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Please tell me you're taking the piss with this
SNK has literally all the same problems anon described with BNHA. It's full of overacting and screaming. What else are you going to reccomend? Fucking Fairy Tail? Kek
I loved it Beautiful show! It was my anime of the year last year.
Any recommendations for shows with similar vibes?
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does anyone else loathe that how they use the gross big titted woman with the most unrealistic and ugly body to predate upon the shota kid in dragon maid? People think it's ""funny"" because she's and woman predating on a little boy but it's just fucking gross. Never understood why anyone can consider that ""funny"". I can't stand seeing the nasty shit that involves older person predating upon younger person in pretty much any media and it's not suddenly "attractive" when a woman does it to a little boy or little girl, it's fucking nasty. I don't get how the shota's unfortunate situations with Pedocoa supposed to be appealing to scrotes at all and what demographic they're even trying to target with it.
Oh, and the forced and creepy sexualization of Kanna and her classmate trying to make two 10 year olds a goddamn couple. They're ten year old girls. That's clearly pedo scrote bait.
The only character who's worth jack shit is the glasses MC because she's actually kind of endearing and one of the less degenerate characters, followed by Tohru, and Fafnir. It sucks because the animation production thus far has been top quality (not fully done watching), and I really don't want to shit on Kyoani's name given the circumstances of what recently happened to them. They're one of my fav studios but I simply can't overlook how glaringly gross and obvious some of Dragon Maid's characters are, or rather, the situations they're put in.
It sucks because some of the segments weren't so bad but there would sometimes be really awful and uncomfortable situations that cropped up. To add insult to injury I heard the author of the original manga? does shota porn on the side, which is a big yikes.
I moved to anilist after MAL had that big downtime.
I only use it for keeping track of things though, the community isn't that great. And anidb usually has more detailed voice actor info.
dragonmaid is gross tbh. there are comfy shows that don't have sexed up kids in it. when you need to say a show is good other than the loli/shota shit
then it's not really good is it.
This take isn't critical, it's just kind of stupid. Bakugo and Izaya don't really have much in common, he has more similarities to Shizuo than to Izaya. Izaya is a literal sociopath, while Bakugo is a kid who suffered from the big fish small pond syndrome who was woke the fuck up with starting at UA that he wasn't actually the best ever, then had to deal with the jealousy and realization of hard work that came with that. Which is very realistic, so many people go through that daily. I think why Bakugo is so unbearable to people is because he's a very real world mean and has realistic development. Many gifted students can relate to that arc, when all your life, you're told that you're "gifted" and naturally talented and you go to college with people who are at the same level of gifted and talented as you, but they actually learned a work ethic along with it, so many are actually better than you, and you can't deal with the crisis that comes with it that you were never that special to begin with. On top of that, the pressure placed to be the number one hero, to be the best in the industry, to be perfect and without weakness…
I really get floored when I see Bakugo hate that's like this, saying he's a terribly written character and doesn't have development when he has some of the best development of the entire animanga. He's interesting to people not because he's perfect and always does the right thing like the bland shonen protagonist, but because of his flaws which he struggles with. His personality is the main drawback to his herodom, while Midoriya's was his self injury (priory) and his late start. I get that Bakugo isn't the most likable character, he WAS a bully after all, and has a very eccentric angry personality that can get annoying in anime. But, he's also a complex character that is realistically written and does undergo development (even if it's more "subtle" and involves changing his attitudes about things rather than curing anger management issues, which is a hard thing to do once you learn to expel anger as your only emotional output, which Bakugo has because of his perfectionism since childhood and unwillingness to appear weak due to this, I could go on about the psychology of this but it's not an easily realized or fixable thing) so "badly written" is just not objectively correct.
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It sucks because Kobayashi and Tohru's relationship is actually ok, the segments with them are the best parts. If it just focused on them and didn't have such overt child sexualization… it'd be nice to see a lesbian or women leaning bisexual coded female character who doesn't fit the conventional standards of attractiveness for anime girls (kobayashi) in more anime.
And kyoani's version is a toned down version of what the manga entailed. The manga was even worse when it came to sexualizing Kanna, Kanna's classmate, and the shota kid. Kyoani actually did the series a service by not sexualizing it so hard.
I'm not going to say it's "wholesome" but I'd like to see a "normal" bi or lesbian adult character like Kobayashi in more anime. The reasons I see why non scrotes like it is at least the existence of her and Tohru's interactions, it's the only reason I'm still watching.
Fucking spot on anon. I don't even like MHA but one of my pet peeves is that characters like Bakugo are misunderstood so much because "HURR HURR HE ANGERY AND MEAN I DONT LIKE ANGERY AND MEAN!!!!". I would actually enjoy the series a lot more if HE was the main character because a lot of people are able to relate to the "big fish in small pond thrown in the ocean" sort of situation and it hasn't been observed that much in shounen. It allows so much development because you have to practically re-learn your life all over again.>which is a hard thing to do once you learn to expel anger as your only emotional output
Especially this. It's actually really common for people to learn unnecessarily hostile anger as their go-to reaction for anything and it's hard to shake it off.
Jumping off of this post, are there any anime or manga that had a big effect on girls and young women compared to boys and young men?
Kare Kano, Fruits Basket, Inuyasha, Full Moon o Sagashite, pretty much the popular shoujo titles.
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>>41492>Ouran will never get a season 2
For me, Card Captors Sakura and Inuyasha were probably the 2 big ones.
I also loved Reena from Slayers and Vision of Escaflowne.
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From the tv tropes page (What Could Have Been.) https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Trivia/OuranHighSchoolHostClub
There was also an author note about it in one of the tankoban volumes, iirc.
that would've been a super qt pairing…
okay I'm a dumb bitch but I despite the moral qualms lc anons seem to have… i like kyouya, he's my #1 because I like douchebags, and I shipped him with haruhi foremost throughout my Ouran phase, my edgelord self still hasn't outgrown him and considers him my fav ouran guy into my twenties (I'm so sorry, any other kyouya stans here?). mori would definitely be #2 on my rankings tho, i really would've preferred him end up with haruhi to who actually ended up with her.
aaaah that woulda been so cute! i love tamaxharuhi BUT i'm also super weak for pairings where the quiet, "cold" type is actually super romantic and protective over the other. haruhi and mori would've been an amazing pair to develop!!
(although i would've cried rivers over poor tamaki having his heart broken)
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i think revolutionary girl utena was really big for me as a kid
i watched it over and over again because i was raised in a really conservative family and the whole thing was… ehhh… validating? lol
its pretty popular in queer female spaces. the show had a really shitty budget, but i think they made pretty good use of it
i love utena too! it's prob my favorite anime ever, i love everything about it.
i love the artstyle, the duel scenes, how goofy and unhinged everyone is even for anime standards, how nonsensical it can be at times; i love the characters (except for Saionji, fuck him)
, i absolutely love that it has a female protagonist that isn't sexualized except for the last bit of the anime w/Akio but let's not talk about that
and is very much gnc for anime. Utena and Anthy are my top 5 of anime pairings.
it's a fantastic show, i could talk about it for hours. i wish more anime was like Utena.
I really wonder what's going on in Ikuhara's head, it's just teen-tier "he seems gay but he isn't!?!?" lol. I mean, there was that interview where he talked about a girl who rejected him and he described himself as feeling 'alien' in regards to dealing with the unfamiliar feeling of heartbreak, but then he went off on a tangent about UFOs.
Then he makes some homo anime fun for the guys AND the gals, and he made the ending of his own movie about a lesbian who turns into a car, he really knows how to make them bishounens and he's cross dressed as Sailor Mars once or twice. Those pictures were leg/10. I haven't heard anything about him being a relationship besides a rumor that he's already married (to a woman no less) but that's 100% hearsay. I don't even know why I think the way I do when I've just typed a load about his focus on female characters. IDK???
Kare Kano getting rebooted would be a miracle. I really want to see
how they'll portray the part with Arima's father. >>41683
I swear for a hot second tranny's hated Ranma
Just saw this article. https://www.animefeminist.com/feature-nichijou-everyday-epics-high-school-girls/
Maybe I should take another look at nichijou. I always thought it was too dumb for me.
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Asobi Asobase is probably the funniest anime I've ever seen. Never laughed so hard at any animated show before.
>>41442>It allows so much development because you have to practically re-learn your life all over again.
This is exactly what happens to Bakugo through the course of the series! Seriously, he isn't an "ANGRY AND MEAN HRRRR" character for no reason, Horikoshi made sure to create realistic development for how he learned that anger and how he developed, and now how its all being deconstructed. And he's realistic in his character development too, it's slow and subtle but it makes a big difference. Sure, he still has the exaggerated angry outbursts, but it's still anime so you learn to expect that kind of thing. >It's actually really common for people to learn unnecessarily hostile anger as their go-to reaction for anything and it's hard to shake it off.
Word, I see a lot of that with my dad especially. It's actually extremely common with men to learn anger as a means of an "acceptable" emotional reaction since sadness or insecurity, etc. are seen as weak and often laughed at. Of course a character who is deadset on being strong and never being seen as weak and suffers from perfectionism that he's been groomed into and catered to since CHILDHOOD would learn that emotional pattern.
It does unfortunately have a lot of male fans and some fanservice with the girl with the anime boobs, but I do like how they took regular tropes (breast envy) and reworked it to be more about the comedy than the actual boobs. It ain't perfect but it gets by on it's comedy without always using it's female characters sexually.
Plus the series is an all girls school which is great due to the volume of unsexualised, regular highschool girls.
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hum… how is this funny?
Lmao we're all girls, but this is anime critical, an opinion thread sooo discuss I guess?
One thing that is pretty well agreed on is that the voice actress for Hanako is very talented.
the jokes aren't that funny and the fact the most of them are pedo jokes make all the anime feels gross in my hopinion, like this one >>41886
how are you as a women feel confortable wiht someting like this?
the anime star super good, i like it but then….
It's like some pervert watched nichijou and went "hmmm this needs 500% more scenes I can masturbate to."
If I as an audience member have to look at a schoolgirl's tits for any allotted amount of time, even for "comedy" (though that excuse doesn't hold up when it's the third fanservice scene in the episode), then I'm tapping out.
Watch Nichijou if you want this kind of comedy without the fanservice.
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But what are you saying Anon, we girls never talk with each other about our breasts or make sexual jokes, it HAS to be male pandering. Kek.
I liked it so, so, so much because it reminded me of actual girl friendship in that age. It made me feel as I was a middle schooler again and had so much nostalgia.
On a different note, I am so happy that garbage of Vento Aureo has ended. The final two episodes weren't even as cringe as I thought they'd be. It was just anticlimatic and boring. It's over me how any person would like something like that, it's so bad even Araki hates it and its popularity.
Hopefully,Stone Ocean will be slightly better.
I haven't seen more than clips here and there of Asobi Asobase but I do know the manga was written by a woman. Stuff like this >>41886
seems creepy out of context but she's speaking to another girl her age and the "tool" in question is a Kewpie doll lmao. The very nature of the medium means that any jokes of a sexual nature (which is not at all unusually among teenage girls) is going to become fanservice-y whether the creator intended it or not (not that there wasn't intentional fanservice in the anime adaptation as well, seeing as it was directed by a man).>>41968
I have a lot of problems with Stone Ocean but the anime made me actually give a shit about Vento Aureo so I'm hoping Stone Ocean is the same. There are some really fucking bad stand battles in Stone Ocean.
Are we sure the author was female and it wasn't just a pen name?
I remember a case when a misogynist author was taken for female.
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yes pic related is her. she's appeared irl many times.>>42008
omg no. hell no. this has to be the most innocent think i have ever read in my life.
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pic related is pretty tame for the series apparently.
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stuff like this is an actual screencap from the show.
I read a manga that was written and drawn by a woman but it contains a rape scene where the victim
“enjoys” it and becomes obsessed with her rapist. I can’t remember the title but I’ll post if I find it.
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Who the hell mails a 14 year old kid something like this?
Friendly reminder that women are not a hivemind.
Saiki K is pretty good, not a lot of female characters tho, kinda makes up for it because when an anime has more than 3 female characters with a male protag, it magically becomes a harem.
Trully the best of the best.
Her beefcake men are great and her milkcakes always badasses so it evens out the sexism.
I mean if they're going to plan porny games you'd think they'd at least play something that's got plot with the porn (like visual novels), instead of borderline softcore shit, whatever you'd call it
the problem with certain weeb games is that they almost solely exist for pandering to men who are too pussy to fap to actual porn or play visual novels or anything that's got plot (coughsenrankaguracough) or difficulty to it. there's a lot of games with fanservice elements in there and its almost impossible to avoid, so why not play something with actual difficulty or interesting content as opppsed to something designed almost solely to get their dick wet? It's pathetic.
actually that could sum up my problem with men who like ecchi as well, they're degenerate dweebs who are too lazy to fap to actual porn and substitute it with softcore crap, and it really boggles the mind how a bunch of openly misogynistic degenerate losers have qualms about fapping to real or drawn porn
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Anyone watching/reading Araburu Kisetsu no Otomedomo yo / O Maidens in Your Savage Season? I want to like it because I like the idea of a show abt nerdy girls exploring their sexuality in a non-fanservice way but the teacher/student romance really puts me off and in the manga one of the girls is apparently groomed by a pedophile director guy and it's barely handwaved as "oh yeah that's bad" ???? IDK it really bothers me that pedophillic romance is portrayed as ~just part of being a teenage girl~ but maybe I'm thinking about it too hard
It's politically wrong because of the power dynamic but saying it's not sexually common is going too far.>>42169
It's worse than that. They want to pornify everything, including general stories. They want to make everything they come in contact with an escapist power fantasy servicing their fetishes, otherwise they would melt from the reality of their loserdom.
i try to watch it but even in the fist episode it make me feel gross out, like is normal for girls to go out and thing about ther sexualitys and bodys, but ther is someting off some how, maybe is becase no matter what the girls will become some pedo waifu >>42221
but the problem is that people like to thing is part of been a teenage girl, because we are curious so "we ask for it" , when men are the one that take advantages of us in that age
It comes down to a cultural difference. If someone is woke and consume a lot of related news then she would see grooming as a major problem and the impact on society argument would be a very powerful one. But Mari Okada probably did not have such an environment and probably sees the whole thing as a distant and harmless fantasy. Sort of how I see Breaking Bad as brainless entertainment while someone living in Colombia or Philippines might be angry at the glorification of drug lords or something.
I agree that the subject isn't approached in a manner that properly addresses the seriousness of the problems that it broaches. I'm generally able to ignore that because I think intent matters. Mari Okada probably just doesn't care and wants to write something dramatic and taboo, same as the reverse gendered teacher romance from last season. It would be different if it was some kind of pedo apologism or something to get degenerates rocks off, which I don't think this is. I would probably think this is a problem if teacher-student grooming is actually a real issue in real life in japan, which I don't think it is.
Just read animefeminist https://www.animefeminist.com/review-summer-2019-three-episode-check-in/
on it and the guy there basically says what you said and makes it out to be an issue with links to a couple of news articles. I don't really agree with it but wanted to share someone who basically thinks the same as you.
during my peak handmaiden phase i gave monster musume a try. i only got halfway through the very first episode before deciding to drop it off of the face of the earth forever.
ecchi is mind-numbingly BORING. i tried, i really, really TRIED sitting through various acclaimed ecchi anime just to see what the buzz was all about, and not only were they all exactly the same, but they were also just. so. BORING!!!! nothing about them was funny! i felt myself becoming more and more retarded every second i didn't look away from the screen. the existence and popularity of ecchi proves how dumb and basic scrote otaku are. and they have the fucking GALL to call us women "stupid" when they spend all their neetbucks on merchandising for a show that's literally just about anime girls with big tits doing fuck-all.
Why did you even watch it when it's obvious that you wouldn't like it and it's not being made for your demographic anyway?
Just ignore it, it's pretty easy to tell just from a synopsis what it is.
Not many good yuri anime, you would have more luck with manga. Most yuri anime is a scrot pandering trash (Maria Sama Ga Miteru, Strawberry Shortcake, Citrus, Kannazuki no Miko etc).
Watch Utena maybe? I would also recommend Oniisama E if you like oldschool psychological shoujo with plenty of drama and complicated relationships between female characters.
Apparently Sasameki Koto and Aoi Hana are okay, though they are about schoolgirls, so yeah…
The recent anime about a teenage asexual figuring out she's a lesbian after all might also be worth giving it a shot. I don't remember the title though.
This is something I've read often and I just don't get it. What character development ???
I'm anime only so maybe it didn't happen yet or is clearer in the manga but Bakugou has not change at all since ep 1.
A lot of manga readers hyped up the bakugou and deku fight in season 3 as "bakugou's redemption" and I thought hah maybe he will finally apologise to midoriya or something. But nothing even close to that happened.
Bakugou's popularity is so strange to me because everybody hates endeavor but him and Bakugou are so similar ?? They are both abusive
assholes who only care about being number one.
I would have loved bnha to be about Midoriya becoming a quirkless villain because clearly their society is fucked if students like Bakugou can be pro heroes.
Women barely have anything in the media as it is. I hate people who say yaoi is a BAD REPRESENTATION OF GAY MEN.
>if anything the yaoi genre is riddled with stereotypes that demonize gay men and reduce them to nothing but "top" and "bottom".
Who cares. It's all fantasy bullshit and it's harmless.
Men get actual rape fantasies and disgusting real life porn and women just wanna read their stupid cartoon drawings and books.
I don't read the manga anymore, but I remember getting to a point where everyone liked Bakugou and said he was changing just because he wasn't smashing his head against Izuku 24/7.
I don't really buy that. I will always remember how Bakugou literally said to Izuku "you should kill yourself, it would be better for everyone haha sucker". That scene was too much for me, I thought the story would get a dark turn after that moment, but nope.
So yeah, totally "husbando material".
Btw, don't you think Momo's superhero outfit is very creepy? Like, she's 15 years old, yet she keeps being sexualized. Same with Invisible Girl, who runs around naked… Like, really, they are 15. It's fucking creepy. I get it's shounen, but the author is on his 40s and there's a lot of adults following the manga…
Damn anon, you're going to trigger
some anime nerds with that harsh statement.
I think maybe I'm desensitized to people telling eachother to kill themselves since I've been on the internet for over a decade, that it's really not the ultimate insult anymore. I like Bakugo, not because he's a moral character, but because he's an interesting one. He doesn't need to be redeemed for me to like him.
But with Momo, I can understand her outfit because of her quirk. Same with the invisible girl. I also don't think mangakas necessarily include fanservice in their works because it gets them off, but because adding things like scantily clad women and violence makes teenage boys excited and continuing to buy the manga. I could definitely be wrong and Horikoshi is jacking off to his drawings of Momo, though. By that logic though, he's probably jacking off to Kirishima and fantasy!Bakugo.
Oh my god I love it, I can't watch the last episode because I don't want to finish it. It is 100% wholesome and cute, with great relationship betweet the characters and great music.
And there's some cute references to Aria (same studio)
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Is Texhnolyze worth seeing if I loved Lain, Haibane Renmei and liked Niea_7?
Also rip Despera, I am still salty we will never see it. Need more ABe anime
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Texhnolyze is fucking magnificent, anon.
It's kind of slow for an action series and it's not as deep as something like Lain, but. It's a very mature action series with deeply disturbing themes. It's more similar to Ergo Proxy probably that ABe's works, but it doesn't make it bad at all.
It's downright morbid and extremely creepy, especially if you're into dystopias and transhumanism. It is thematically kinda similar to Lain, having plot points about an internal conflict of a mechanised person with what actually is being a human (with a dash of "tech eats your soul") and another character who kind of serves as an omnipotent god-like antropomorhic personification.
It's very, very slow, but also very, very dark, but if you're into that, you're going to have a great time. Well, you won't, actually, you probably won't even enjoy it in a regular sense of the word. But it's good.
It also has one of my favourite anime characters - Haruhiko Tooyama, even if he, sadly, appears for not many episodes and isn't explored deeper. Hell, he isn't even mentioned among characters most times, but I am such a sucker for him. His whole deal is that he endured rape at the hands of his own father and cut off parts of his body so he would have less association with it and less genetic connection to his parent.
(Not a big spoiler, but maybe you want to avoid it anyway.) That. Holy shit. Touched me to the core. He's also a sick-ass sword fighter, strongly implied to be homosexual, but not at all less badass for it.
Other characters are great too, since no one, and I mean no one is a good person or morally superior at all. Even Ichise, the main character is so gray he might as well be grimdark. He gets a bit better. A bit though. He's a very unusual main character for an action series, getting through everything through sheer will to live and having nearly no redeeming qualities to him otherwise. He's a good fighter, but he can't control his rage, he's a good looking guy who nearly all women in the series want, but he couldn't care less about it. Or anything else really.
It's extremely depressing through and through and there is not a single shred of hope in it. You won't get a happy ending and you won't get anything remotely feel-good on the journey to it. There's zero empathy found in any of the characters and it's really hard to relate to any of them if you're looking for that kind of experience. I managed with Haruhiko, but my life experiences are unique enough to allow it, hah.
tl;dr: it's a grimdark series with a bad ending, but it's complex and deep and watching it is an experience. Not necessarily a "good" or "enjoyable" experience though, but still somehow 100% worth it.
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I kind of want to rewatch it now. I watched it when I was 15 and was impressed by the mature style but frustrated by the lack of sympathetic characters and the downer ending.
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Why do i feel like the love live series could be more to it rather than having such brainless and run-for-the-mill characters? Hell, all of the girls even look the same, where's the character development? I know its a comfort anime but even comfort anime sometimes put their mc in challenging situations. The music and costume is boring too…
LL didn't have much going on, so it's not like the characters could have archs or anything. i personally like the music, and the story was fine but i hated nozomi and the focus around her. the only thing i took from her "story" was that no one else really liked her since she begged to be part of the group but then flipped it like it was all done for her. female characters that japanese girls like tend to be annoying as hell.
LLSS was abysmal with the characters just being weird frankensteins of the already boring originals. and my tinfoil between that and the 1st season plus the movie is that honoka went into a coma when she got sick and nothing ever happened, and everything we're watching is a fever dream. SS is just her brain degrading more so she mishmashes everyone together.
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I wish there was some way to have a universal warning label for softcore loli porn scenes. Fuck you, Food Wars. I love slice of life anime and I like cooking, so I thought it would be a nice show for me to watch. KEK My fault for not looking more into it, I guess.
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kiznaiver should have had two seasons. i miss it dearly and the ending was rush and they fucked with the characters and their relationships. certain characters got more development than others and i'm just so mad it's been years and i'm still not over it. grrrr.
in other words please give dungeon meshi an anime adaption oh my god maybe then people will actually get into it. it's one of the best mangas i've ever read.
I don’t think there’s a single anime I’m going to watch in the fall.>>51509>watched a clip of Kimetsu
So you watched a YouTube video about that one scene in episode 19. Maybe try watching a full episode or two or just find something else to watch if it doesn’t suit your tastes.
>>51544>Technical things like storyboard directing, music score, VA performance, animation quality itself are secondary imo.
Imo those are vital to a show for me to be able to become invested in the first place, if they're not good then an anime won't be good.>>51715
Did I piss you off? All I'm saying is that the screaming shouneny scene it had made me realise (again) how dumb that is in general, otherwise I have no opinion of the show. I was actually going to give it a try because I heard positive things about it but overall I don't feel like watching anime because it has so much of that.
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I have a lot of anime I really love that have a special place in my heart. But modern anime is so shit. It's all just fanservice crammed into a shitty plotline about magical lolis or whatever. I wish anime like pic related was still being made.
I feel you anon. Sometimes I think I'm being too nostalgic but when I go bad and watch old moody anime with good animation it confirms it more.
What's the one in the middle?
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The middle is still being made.
I remember when KLK was airing and people were desperately trying to say the show was feminist and/or a “parody” of generic battle shonens, when it’s still barely more than fanservice with slideshow animation. Trigger
keeps shitting out shows with half assed stories and animation, but I guess some things don’t change.>>52473>>52473>>52507
This is probably bait, but maybe you shouldn’t be watching anime if you don’t understand target demographics or if teenaged characters bother you so much.>>52527
It seems to me you really like seinen. Do you just prefer anime to manga? I know Naoki Urusawa still writes and draws manga, they just haven’t been adapted to anime.>>52647
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
You lost me at >It's all just fanservice crammed into a shitty plotline about magical lolis or whatever>implying that older anime aren’t chock full of fan service, shit plots, shit characters and even shittier animation, even within the ones listed
Make effort to look for something that’s not shitty then? also don’t take this personally but you have taste of a 30 yo white male unpopular anituber lol
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It wasn't better, it is just you who picked the best of past decades, pretty much the same as music. There are still good shows every season, you just have to look for the best and not what's trending.
Survivorship bias makes it seem like the past had better anime, when it reality it also had plenty of shitty series that were forgotten over time because they are… shitty. Though it's true a typical season these days has far more series and therefore far more garbage, it's not like it was non stop art back in the day and there are still the occasional recent series that I'd consider top tier (imo the most recent 'masterpiece' is Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu from 2016).
And like, LoGH is literally being remade right now, Utena's director has a brand new series, Fukumoto and Urasawa still write popular manga that are/could be getting adapted. A Kaiji spin off aired in 2018.
Branching from that topic, what would be some recent anime from the last few years or current running shows that will stand the test of time? Theres a few recent ones with superb animation like demon slayer and the fire brigade one but they don't come across as very remarkable or memorable otherwise. Just well made.
The only one i can think off is Mob Psycho, both seasons have been amazing and the story and concept is memorable enough that if it remains that way its going to be right there with the goat.
A lot of people mention SnK but that show is way over rated, never understood why normies who don't even like anime love it so much over pretty much every other anime series.
If I'm understanding right, the anime that OP like are edgy seinen with thoughtful themes and unfolding mysteries. I would recommend from the past decade:
My favorite show / sci-fi of all time:
From the New World
This show is the best piece of writing I've ever experienced in sci-fi. Yet almost nobody has seen this. The wider anime community hated on it for months because of the existence of male gay characters in a seinen show.
The rest of the shows I don't think are as amazing but I think they fit the criteria.
Attack on Titan
Kara no Kyoukai
Sora yori mo Tooi Basho
Houseki no Kuni
The Tatami Galaxy
Knights of Sidonia
Not as complex but might still be enjoyable:
All by one edge writer:
I feel Bleach fans are going through a small wave of nostalgia even though we universally loved to shit on it because of THE HEART and Kubo being Kubo. But damn his designs could be stylish.>>52805
I thought anime/manga was for everyone but this genre creep reminds me of how video games became a distinctly male hobby due to marketing and less female devs being hired (I wish I had the link to the documentary I had in mind)
Best movies from each decade are well remembered, they may not be on the collective mainstream all the time but everyone can google the "best of X years" and they will show up, some good movies are not going to come up, sure, but the most iconic will always remain as case studies. Also the "test of time" is not so much about them being remembered, it takes for granted that their popularity ended, is more about them still being considered great even after all those years.
A lot of awful movies are still remembered by critics but are hot garbage, like everything made by Passolini.
I think 20 yrs from now people will still regard Mob Psycho as a great show, just as people still think the original FMA series was great and among the best representative of its time.
Shin Sekai Yori is so fucking good. I think it's not that underrated anymore, I see it recommended often.
If I was to add other series from the 2010s, mostly early yrs unfortunately as I've fallen out of anime a bit,>Ping Pong the Animation>Jinrui Wa Suitai Shimashita>Kyousougiga>Mawaru Penguindrum>Nichijou>Uchouten Kazoku>Akagami no Shirayukihime>Barakamon>Already recced Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu further up thread
Some other comedies which probably aren't good enough to be classics but are still funny enough to be great>Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki Kun>Osomatsu San>Saiki Kusuo no Psi-nan>Daily Lives of highschool Boys>Arakawa Under the Bridge
Good taste in comedy anon! I hate that when I look for comedy, I deadass have to blacklist the “action”, “harem”, “ecchi”, or even “romance” tag, for results to not be filled with garbage. In what world is seeing some faggot accidentally grab a tit for the 1000th time funny…
Here’s my own short list:
-Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei
I also love comfy fluffy slice of life contents!
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Seinenfag here. Thankyou for giving me some recommendations, this looks like a good place to start.
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ngl, when I first saw Lio my first thought was "wow trigger
actually made an androgynous female character nice" I ended up being so disappointed it was a pretty dude that my interest in it plummeted lol.
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I would never proclaim KLK to be feminist, but I honestly never thought about viewing it outside of a satire lens. It's so over the top and ridiculous that watching it at face value is nowhere near as entertaining as the alternative: that they deliberately took common tropes to extremes while playing a lot of it completely straight as satire. It's not like the characters are going to give a knowing wink at you whenever the show is making fun of something. You're just supposed to get that when someone stabs another person and it literally rains blood, maybe they're mocking how often animes imply there are 50 gallons of blood in a human body.
And I'll give Trigger
credit, as overt as the fan service is for the female characters, they also sexualize the male characters in equally comical extremes (even if there's less of it).
KLK is most definitely a YMMV ordeal and I'm not here to change minds. I just find it strange someone would watch it without seeing it as at least partially parody/satire.
wait, wasn't it the girls who do that? Like they were mad a poor girl was with one of the big 4 dudes.
fr tho yeah, that manga/anime was fucked up, a guilty pleasure, but still, I cannot deny how fucking shitty it is in terms of plot/girl stuff.
I was a fan in the early series when it shows the most beautiful/popular girl being genuinely nice and wanting to help her tho
yeah same when I first looked up the designs out of curiosity without reading the premise and glanced at fanart I thought the char was a flat chested cute girl and I was very shocked to learn it's a guy
kinda disappointed that trigger
didn't make the character an androgynous/tomboy looking girl instead of a fujobait guy
>>53957>Being this superficial and "ew fujobait!!!"
I feel sorry for you anon.
Literally reminds me of the lowkey homophobic dudebros who screech about a series being "ruined by fujos" because two guys were vaguely implied to have feelings for each other or because it has a beautiful bishounen male character in it.
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Sushio is uninspired as fuck, a waste of great animator skills and experience.
I don't have a problem with anime gays, but I definitely don't like gay men irl because they're actually misogynistic af, even moreso than straight men. It's mostly just disappointment between what I thought the movie would be vs. what I now have heard/assume it will be.
Sage for pinkpill shit, sorry.
>>52891> Shin Sekai Yori is so fucking good. I think it's not that underrated anymore, I see it recommended often.
Nobody's heard of it. The fact that >>52527
this post exists proves my point. It's so sad that after making loads of money on haremshit A1's attempt to make a decent show ends up being an immediate commercial failure. And then you have losers like pic related.
I was following along with the translation 5 or so years ago and it wasn't done, maybe it's done now. But it's not a light novel, it's a proper novel that won a literary award, I think it was the Japanese equivalent of a Hugo.>>54266
Wait what, what NTR? Do you have a link that explains what you're talking about.
I only read the first handful of chapters of the novel due to it not being translated at the time. I'm satisfied with just watching the anime completely, from comments online it accurately and completely adapted the novel.
That does sound like something that could happen in SSY. Calling it fetishy is an interesting takeaway. I don't think NTR fits because all the characters were engaged in casual sex with one another. The main character also misses the guy who she had a crush on after he died. In the end she moved on. I don't think NTR is the correct term there either. The novel did have a lot to say about sex and society. I'm curious and want to know what you found fetishy about it.>>54300
Sorry no offense meant. >>54249
If you look at the video in the post you were replying to it compares SAO and SSY so that's the reason for the suggestion. There was the possibility of miscommunication because well, your initial description did fit SAO, and parts of that series was creepy for sure.
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I looked up the English translation and some things are better than expected, but there's still awkward sex and the author not understanding how hymens work in an earlier chapter. NTR is a memey word for this scene, but if you consider who just went missing and what happened it's out if place.
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This is around page 306 in the translation, as a teen I probably found it more gross lol
I get the feeling that everyone knows SSY and that it's good, but they sleep on it.
I was in quiet agreement with >>52527
(even though they got dragged lol), and then someone mentioned Shinsekai Yori and I was like "How did I forget? Squealer should have won
Actual good anime gets shoved to the wayside for garbage, and I think that's part of the problem.
As for the video you linked>thumbnail
Strike 2>uploader's squeaky, disgusting voice
Shitty bait, I regret giving a view.
There is an anime general thread or is this supposed to be a criticism.
I watched the ep after this comment and it was surprisingly watchable. The guy is already boring and getting on my nerves, the girl should be the main character, but I know she's not.
Yeah, i remember the scenes when the male characters are getting sexually harassed, oh wait–
I messed up. I thought Bookworm might be after reading this review https://www.animefeminist.com/review-ascendance-of-a-bookworm-episode-1/
but I think it's a seinen.
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I hope this post doesn't make me sound like an isekaifag oof>>55731
I watch very few isekai but Slime was great. It's comfy relaxing watch, if you can ignore the designated pair of tits and the legal loli of course. I preferred the ogres old designs waaa. Over Lord is similar kind of wholesome too. I think it's something about the MC-kun not being a smug bishie faggot that makes it more tolerable.
I would enjoy Youjo Senki wayyy more if it didn't remind me that it's a salary man in a loli body like that reads too much of a troon fantasy.>>55765
First season SAO wasn't THAT bad, was mediocre. Mine is DanMachi ss1. I watched it when I was bored and fully intended to shit on it, but I actually had fun lol
I've been following this isekai manga/novel called Kumo desu ga, Nani Ka?
where a JK got isekai'd as a spoder lol I heard it's getting an OVA. Supaaa cute!
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Huh, I never actually thought of Kyousogiga as an isekai, my fav has always been Twelve Kingdoms. Totally unsexualized in general, and the female MC gets amazing character development.
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Escaflowne is legit the only isekai i've ever love. Good taste!! The Opening song will always be in my head
The ending song was better.>>55915
I loved the 12 kingdoms back then but I only read the first 5 volumes of the novel series. Is the anime good?
You sound like an isekaifag. But since resident expert is in town can you explain what the appeal of overlord is. I watched 2 episodes and got totally bored.
SAO was actually kind of good (first season, never watched any of the others). The industry saw what elements made it work and refined it into super pandering crack that shitted on the legacy of SAO, at least that's how I see it.
> Kumo desu ga, Nani Ka?
I heard that there's a really bad twist in this one, not sure if it's true.>>55987
Thanks! They really need to do a remake, especially since isekai is sooo in vogue now! I think it would make big money. It was originally slated to be 39 episodes but they ended up cutting it due to budget that's why so many plot threads are so barebones. I would love to see a fully fleshed out version that fixes all those issues.
Anatolia Story is the first isekai I ever read, I loved that too. But like escaflowne it has a damsel in distress lead and doesn't have 2 key ingredients of post-SAO/modern isekai, leveling and OP protagonist. I really want a modern isekai in a Escaflowne-esque setting and see how characters like Van would react to a girl that quickly grows to become stronger than them. Does anyone know any manga or LN like this?
Idol culture is specifically male gaze culture, and I say so despite I actually like 2D idols and I'm ashamed of it, such as Tokyo 7th Sisters and Idolm@ster.
The only good idol anime I have seen is Wake Up Girls, the music was a bit too cheesy for me, anyway.
I agree with you, Anon, Love Live was a wreck since the beginning and the music is just mediocre or plain out bad. New group is utterly cringe.
Im@s on the other hand has good music, and I'm glad the brand experimented a lot with Cinderella Girls (letting out Chiaki Takahashi and Asami Imai Radio), there is a wide variety of music spacing from actual metal to traditional japanese music. Shiny Stars is promising well with Hōkago Climax Girls.
Love Live, on the other hand… is giving us this
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Is the game easy to get into? I'm kinda tempted, Queen of Purple songs are cool but while the gameplay was fun I didn't bother learning a new event system when I tried it.
Back on topic,>I actually like 2D idols and I'm ashamed of it
Same, it's a guilty pleasure for me. While there are obvious male gaze things, embarassing fanservice and self insert aspects in idolm@ster, in a bizarre twist ""waifufaggotry"" leads to more fun female characters compared to the usual sidekicks in most mainstream series.
I highly recommend Ore Monogatari!!
It's very wholesome and cute.
Modern isekai started with SAO, before that it was just a trope but not a genre. Escaflowne is a guilty pleasure because it's a harem.
Post SAO isekai is shit because it's generally distilled wish fulfillment. Worse is the revelation that one of the things that males wish for is sex slaves.
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To me, the game is unapproachable. I have followed here and there, lives and so on, but afaik they did like three games because they can't do a proper one.
>leads to more fun female characters compared to the usual sidekicks in most mainstream series
I was totally mesmerized by the amount of adult idols DereSute has.
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For some reason I can never get into idol/dancer/actor games targeted at girls. I don't know if it's a gender bias because I can enjoy some silly idolshit, while the guy casts in comparison seem a bit more unusual.
When it comes to manga though I'm totally open to shoujo and josei and enjoy them way more. It's just that when it comes to games, something seems more forced/fabricated, created by a team based on popularity data.
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The trailer for Netflix’s Ghost in the Shell anime was released last night/today and everyone is seething about the terrible CG and Ilya Kushinov’s sameface redesign of the Major. The twitter announcement and YouTube video are filled with comments in Japanese and English shitting on how bad it looks.
sometimes its used well when it complements or enhances good 2d animation, rather than just cutting corners. Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away have CG , they used it kinda like they did in disney tarzan and it was great and unnoticeable
As for fully cg anime, Gantz:o was also pretty cool.
>Ilya Kushinov’s sameface redesign
Is it literally from him? i haven't seen it but now i won't even look it up, can't stand his stuff, so dull.
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is not ugly but as any of Ilya Kushinov’s works is the same petty girl face, same make up, eyes, just boring
Even the poster looks cheap and souless>>59141>Ilya Kushinov's girls are pretty
you say girls, in plural, as if there is more than one. Ilya's girl is personified blandness and basicness.
And, its GiTS, look at the original manga, the movie or the anime adaptations and teel me this cheap 3d version is not a total downgrade. Stand alone complex anime already had cg tachicomas, is not about just them using cg, ut about how cheap and low effort it looks specially coming with such a high standard and stylish franchise.
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If Major doesn't look like a grown woman with nice buff thighs I don't want her.
Also, Kushinov is an untalented hack.
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I hate the infantile designs that are so popular right now. Big eyes, small face, non-existent nose and lips, etc. At first I found it endearing, but man, now you just can't escape from it. I feel like the moe sameface completely takes away any personality from most characters. I can't believe they fucked up major so bad.
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Sorry to necro? this thread but i want to know other fanmers opinoons on "hoshiai no sora" a new "lgtbq+" anime, the only thing i have seen of them is on twitter (yeah i know) and how they are progesive becase they therms like "non binary" , but i feel is kinda pandering to the wester lgb somehow not sure
In all honesty it wouldn't bother me as much if it wasn't literally every show and everywhere. I used to love these really generic-cute anime girls because like you said, it was endearing, but there is no variety available anymore. I'd like to see an anime woman that looks over 12 for once. What ruined it for me completely though was realizing that it was men who this is supposed to pander to, my 15-year old self would be so heartbroken.>>59044
I love this image lmfao
Demographics don't justify poor writing.
Besides if shonen is meant mostly/just for teenage boys, how will you explain the constant fujo pandering? 'Shonen is created for boys only' has been debunked.
nayrt but media aimed at, and consumed by, boys should have strong and well-written female characters.
this aspect of anime never fails to freak me out. you have female characters that are overly sexualised, but their personalities remain under developed and one dimensional. such characterisations seem to genuinely make people (see twitter troons) view real
women as these mythical creatures whose sole purpose is to please/entertain/support men.
Naruto and Sasuke.
A lot of Naruto was homoerotic.
Seems like most people find Rina cringey but I actually really like the new direction Love Live is going in! The new game is really fun and I like that the new group is somewhat unique. New group also has some really amazing voices.
I think Idol Master would be so much more popular if it had an eng translation. That's the only thing that's stopping me from getting into it. I get headaches from navigating in the new LL game (doesn't have a WW release yet) and only play it because I'm already similar with LL.
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just watched the 1st ep of Jibaku Shounen Hanako-kun
i went in blind as i haven't read the manga, and i'm hooked.
it's funny and cute and the art style is just.. chef's kiss
The manga turned into shit, good thing the anime ended earlier. >>41496>>41500
The whole point of Ouran High scholl Host club was to make fun of shoujo cliches, sadly it went from laughing at those cliches to sincerely use them. >>41506>>41537>My OTP was almost a canon
Fuck this gay earth >>41549>that would've been a super qt pairing…
Indeed>>41586>It really rubbed some salt in the wound to later find out that MorixHaruhi was the original pairing
I'm in the same place now…
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I've liked it too! Quite a few really fun anime came out this winter, I'm glad to see something different this season.
That being said, was anyone else slightly weirded out by some scenes/imagery with Hanako-kun? I wish the series didn't have those slight sexual undertones, even if it was refreshing to see something more appealing to "female gaze".
Watch claymore and fullmetal alchemist & hellsing. They have good female characters
Other shonens i cant stand them for that reason. Female characters are just trash (although i love hinata from naruto because im shy and introverted like her).
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Since I saw someone in this thread praise Rose of Versailles, did anyone else find it extremely disturbing that Andre flat out attempted to rape Oscar and she still fell in love with him? Nobody seems to talk about it but it ruined the entire series for me and kind of soiled Oscar's character. And no, I don't ship her with Rosalie.
Tbh I didn't mind it when I read the manga. Could be related to what anon said >>98121
but IMO it doesn't have to do with the historical setting but with the fact the author is Japanese and the 'your love is so strong you can't control yourself' trope is a common thing in anime, I'd even say it's something cultural. If you watch closely you'll identify this shit in every shoujo and yaoi out there.
Digging this thread up, because I found an interesting article about the gross origins of loli trope in the 70s and how it prevails to this day as a low key disgusting undercurrent in modern day anime. Also, how it initially emerged as a “fuck you” to female yaoi fans who were a significant part of doujin scene.
I see the loli debate resurface in various threads on /m/ every now and again, so I thought some anons might find this article interesting too. It seems well researched.https://crawfordpro.wordpress.com/2020/05/03/article-the-castle-of-doom-and-the-lolicon-boom/
Thanks for the great and informative article. I wish lolicon was something that anime fans could discuss critically more often, it's one of the main reasons why I rarely watch anime these days. Unfortunately, most anime discussion forums are filled with men, many of whom enjoy lolicon themselves and deny that it could ever be problematic
in any way. Even women on lolcow will insist "It's just art" "It's not real" and so on.
The fact that one of its original purposes was to push women out of the anime scene is disgusting but not surprising. 90% of anime is way too male-gazey for me. Even things that look innocent at first glance, like fantasy or action anime, will have moe/fanservice/lolicon/generally useless female characters.
I also feel bad for Hayao Miyazaki. I always loved his female characters, who I think act like realistic young women for the most part.
Thank you for that anon. Very interesting and depressing read. I had no idea Lupin's early character was depicted that way jfc I'm glad they changed him. Who would've thought some sweet anime character would've sparked such degenerate shit.>>99009>Unfortunately, most anime discussion forums are filled with men, many of whom enjoy lolicon themselves and deny that it could ever be problematic in any way. Even women on lolcow will insist "It's just art" "It's not real" and so on.
imo I think the reason for that is because no one really likes or bothers to look into the origins of these kinds of things. There's nothing more buzz killing than finding out the shit you've been consuming for years was made to hurt people/is hurting people.
Also it's really hard to argue with coomers, especially now with the whole "anti-anti fiction=/reality" arguments that plague twitter going around.
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I love mech anime. Tried to watch this. Was disgusted and immediately dropped it. Why does a robot even have titties? It's just so ugly
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The part that got to you was the robot tits and not the fact that the male pilots doggy style mount the female copilots?
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Is this thread alive? Anyway Eversince I heard of what Mai chan's Daily Life is and read the ED of a certain scene regarding a blender I cannot believe people get off to that shit let alone make it. Waita Uziga is one sick fuck that I hope rots in hell. His audacity to also make a work based from the tragic case of Junko Furuta. Deciding to sexualise the torture of a female is so degrading and disrespectful. Anyone who is in support of work like deserves nothing but to experience the same type of torture since you think its so "cool".
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Wtf is this? My friends were all talking about it and I thought it was gonna be about a girl teasing a boy who likes her in a soft way. In the girl kept acting like a crusty bloated balding male . This is not cute wtf. She's disgusting. There's nothing romantic about seeing someone being borderline raped. Just gross.
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I don't even know where to begin with this. Sperg incoming, I guess. I just finished rewatching Code Geass with limited memory of events and oh boy is it WAY more of a train wreck than I remember it being. What starts off as a show about the disenfranchised(the Japanese) rising up against their oppressors (the Britannian's) turns into such a cluster fuck mess of sucking Lelouch's dick and making Suzaku the most dislikable character in media history. It's like in S1 they saw how much people liked Lelouch's over the top, god-complex actions and just completely decided to make that the sole focus of S2. None of Suzaku's actions made any sense, he was just a hypocrite from start to finish. Euphie and Suzaku met exactly once and had no right being treated like some altruistic "made for each other" couple. Did Euphie REALLY have to go out in such a retarded ass way? "Haha, what if I ordered you to kill all the Japanese, haha." Why do they keep referring to Nunna and Lelouch as "political pawns" even though they are never shown to actually be of use. Why are their identities undercover to begin with. Why doesn't Charles just kill Lelouch? What was the point of the episode with Mao and Shirley? I feel like we could've just completely skipped that entire thing and end up at the same conclusion.
Does everyone just skip over the fact too that entire plotlines, hell CHARACTER DESIGNS, and EPISODES are just straight up ripped from Gundam Seed? I know they are both made by Sunrise who is infamous for reusing Gundam character designs and plotlines but damn they didn't even try to hide it with Island of the Gods. Exactly the same situation as episode 24 of Gundam Seed where Athrun and Cagalli get stuck on a deserted Island together and in the end both sides "trade" captives.
Anyway, C.C. is best girl and too good for this show.
I actually didn't hate the ending reveal itself - but I probably understand it differently than other people did, so I can "comfortably but with disappointment" accept it as canon.
However, the fact that it completely negated/wasted many characters' development kinda burns me in the wrong way. Especially Eren's.
I agree with you in general but>Did Euphie REALLY have to go out in such a retarded ass way? "Haha, what if I ordered you to kill all the Japanese, haha."
was an amazing, iconic, hilarious moment.
But yeah fucking hell I hate Suzaku, as soon as I hear his name my brain automatically goes 'reee fuck that bootlicking dog of the empire' even though I'm otherwise not emotionally invested in the series.
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I always confused Code Gayass with Infinitre Ryvius and S-Cry-Ed. Goro Taniguchi is the culprit, but funny enough he didn't touch Gundam SEED at all.
I finished watching it for the first time today, I was cheering when Euphy died.
Genuinely some of the worst written romance I’ve seen in an anime in a while plus the fanservice was disgusting.
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to be fair, SEED is a 0079 rehash. every Sunrise original mecha can be traced back to Tomino. But it's also true that when Geass was airing, people made SEED comparisons all the time–and frequently would call Euphie, Lacus 2.0.
& since you're talking about SEED clones, I just finished the first season of Aldnoah Zero, and it is so obviously a SEED clone, but way shittier and with the most unlikable MC. I watched one episode of season 2 and then just turned it off, no thank you. Not even any good homobait like CG or SEED.
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when the anime character goes insane
wtf I knew this had to be crap>>103683
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Are there any recent-ish anime original series that are actually worth seeing? My taste roughly aligns with pic related (I don't like everything in it though, and even my favorite series have their downsides, so please don't pester me about specific scrote shit that you hate)
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Devilman Crybaby, it's excellent and aligns well with your taste imho. It's based on a manga but afaik it's not a straight adaptation, just taking parts of it and interpreting, so kinda falls inbetween original and not.
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I have noting to say kek, I'm just morning "older" character design. I was rewatching ghost in the shell the other day and I kept thinking about how beautiful it was, also the women looked like adults
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Those were the days
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I know whatcha mean, fren.
This scene alone makes me not want to watch the anime. The main girl seems really annoying. He's much better as he is normally.
Most romance anime/even VNs are awful. Do Japanese women just have awful taste in men? Why are the guys almost always assholes?
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Will we finally see the end of lolicon and shotacon? Japanese harem mangaka coomer is seethinghttps://twitter.com/KenAkamatsu/status/1450091013784031240?t=xf_BO3MZvjb7S1RPTmulcw&s=19
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I hope this happens but I actually do agree that it would be nice if there was legislation that directly protects children rather than looking at their representation in media first. The age of consent in Japan is thirteen
OMG that would be amazing. Pedophiles coping and seething worldwide. Sad that probably nothing will happen, though.>>165026
No it isn't, read a wikipedia article on the topic instead of repeating scrote propaganda. I would elaborate but this has been discussed so many times that I'm too mentally exhausted
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Holy fuck this show took itself way too seriously
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Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Involuntary Social Ostracization Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Cut Your Hair Like Nigga Grab A Pair Of Scissors Haha
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The latter parts are a pleb filter, also an anime-only filter.
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extremely overrated and overhyped series. i know the mangaka is younger but the writing makes me think they're actually a conservative boomer because for some reason every character is obsessed with marriage. also the ending was a fucking disaster, the main charas have an extreme case of plot armor meanwhile the hashiras die like flies. zenitsu is extremely obnoxious and shouldn't exist and it still pisses me off that he ended up with nezuko. no, in fact most of the ships are bland, uninspired shit, inosuke ends up with a girl he talked once, kanao is a super traumatized girl who falls for the first guy who is nice to her, the tragic love story between mitsuri and obanai was forced. shinobu was interesting but her interactions with giyuu make her come across as an annoying mean kid who doesn't know how to get her crush attention
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It’s baby making propaganda?
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At least be correct before you start saying things. They’re based off the flower hanafuda card. Not everything is political. Also where did the PM say this? I’m calling bullshit.
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you are right and you should say it.
Eh, it's just a mediocre shonen. The only thing that makes it stand out is Ufotable's animation. This shit really is early Naruto level but with much nicer animation.
I've only seen the anime but I don't remember anything particularly nationalistic or anything about making babies. Just saving people from an oni epidemic and the importance of being there for your family. >>165977
Zenitsu is the best character of the series. It's too bad you can only find him funny if you understand japanese.
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Even more vapid than Frontier.
The short format and super fast pacing makes it really hard to get attached to the characters and they just don't have any time to develop at all. You just barely get to know them and it's already time to say goodbye. Plot wise, it also sounded like a rushed recap of a story that should have been longer, everything felt like it came out of nowhere.
The songs are really good, but it's completely useless to have five people singing them especially when the near totality of lines go to Mikumo and Freyja anyway. There is no point to them being a group of five, Makina and Reina are so uninteresting they could have just not been there.
ALL of the Windermerean short lifespan lore shit was retarded to a point that it just ruined the series entirely, and Hayate was annoying as hell too. I want to watch the movies but I'm scared.
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sorry for sperging about it 1 year late, but I will also have to agree, the palace invasion is insanely good in the manga imo. I do think it's a bad idea to present hxh as a super deep story though (I'm saying this as a die hard fan of it), much better to start it without any expectations.
The palace invasion is so frustrating and so satisfying. Time slowing down was kind of a theme of the arc and gets mentioned several times and it sure did feel like that sometimes kek but the way it all comes together is amazing. I watched the anime first and remember thinking "wtf all these new characters, no way I'm gonna care about them all" but I was so invested by the end.
The manga is even better because you can control the pace yourself and Togashi's panelling is god tier.
It owes its entire success and its current "classic" status entirely to its art style and OST. I personally appreciated that it had entirely unique characters that somehow managed to be caricatural without being just tropes or a subversion of a trope, idk how to say it, but it's like a parody without an original. It spit in the face of everything without trying to. This being said - I was 14 so poop and sex was very funny. >>319317
I believe there's a good overlap between "grew up with Cartoon Network" and anime watchers, even those who are weaboos since birth make an exception for PPG, Dexter's Lab or whichever one they grew up on (and then another exception for Invader Zim kek). So anime x CN classic thick lineart artstyle makes an appealing combo. VivziePop was also not yet a thing. I fail to see how it's similar to South Park in any way though, the tone is completely different.
It's a shame I didn't watch this when I was a teenager because from what I've heard and read about it, it seems like as an adult, I'd roll my eyes at the humor too and lose motivation to keep watching after one episode.>>319349
It's probably just you mistaking a slightly higher amount of non-fanservicey anime for a decrease in degenerate content overall.>there was an isekai last season that was 99% three guys traveling around
Which one? I' curious
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Tondemo skill. It's pretty cute.