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No. 58853

Last thread hit da bump limit. Let's discuss some more kpop, farmers.
>Who's your favorite band/group and why isn't it LOOΠΔ? Who's your bias?
>What do you think of the weird kpop fandoms that are popping up and the crazy fans that come with them?
>Any comebacks you're looking forward to?

No. 58855

<333go go won

No. 58856

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Yubin and the brown eyed girls are coming back soon!!

No. 58857

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No. 58859

currently obsessed with the newest TXT song

No. 58865

Oh man, i've missed them so much.

No. 58927

this song and all the other songs on their album are soo good. also new day6 song is great.

No. 58941

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No. 58944

praying burn comes out before 2020 but I know I should've given up by this point..
loving this song a lot
sad for his fans but at least he was allowed to leave. hopefully he gets the help that he needs

No. 58945

No. 58982

Gowon is the cutest. I need a loona cb and more songs like heat nOW

The company teased b#rn several months ago and it’s still not here


Fuck. I love Day6 sm

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No. 59317

It's weird how you see m/v's like this or other groups with m/v's like say fromis_9's To Heart or DKDK and not think they'd be huge in Japan.

Like I can see some of the producers and filmmakers take inspiration from Japan.

No. 59588

No. 59872

Halloween season… I miss VIXX.
When will another group be bold enough to do wild concepts like demonic possession or space vampires? vixx were truly innovative in their time.

Let's post some good horror songs for the season, anons

No. 59918

Wayv is the superior nct unit

No. 59919

Also this song off their album is GOOD

No. 59925

>Wayv is the superior nct unit
Hard disagree. Nct u and nct dream are still leagues better than both the static units. Totm sounds like every other nugu bg release this year.
Sm realized they don't even have to try to make a quick buck off bg stans kek they got a three year old group moving like hasbeens with the constant tours and rushed come backs. Only best boys stay well-fed.

Side note: Kun is nawt a good vocal lmaoo

No. 59960

I liked it. king of hearts is my favorite b-side from the album.

No. 60053

i wish this song wasn't in chinese…i would like it so much better if it was in korean

No. 60158

Thoughts? It's kinda boring but I like it.

No. 60163

Is it because you don't like the way it sounds? Because same

Imo their singing is shit except for xiao jun

So boring and I don't like her voice

No. 60166

Dejun isn't great either. He sounds like u9's hanyu. He's the only wayv who can handle main vocal tho I'll give him that. But yea, bad vocals all around… Ten especially needs way less lines. He will never ever be the international it boy sm wants him to be. If they couldn't make taeyong and the boys work, ten and the boys doesn't stand a chance. Wayv would be better without him.

No. 60186

yeah like i don't mean to sound racist but the chinese language just doesn't sound that good that good to me…

No. 60197

today is this video's ninth anniversary. fuck i'm old.

No. 60199

this came out in march but it's ~spooky so it counts.

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No. 60203

this is the only kpop song we need for halloween

No. 60204

Wolf is the best halloween song

No. 60205

rv's best song.

No. 60214

Absolutely wild halloween song. It goes hard.

No. 60222

i only heard the original song lol i didn't know there was a spooky ver

No. 60308

Wish she would go back to the badass rapper persona, this retro stuff doesn't fit her at all. She looked her best in the WG band concept era, she should stick to that imo.

No. 60430

Yeah he's not great but he's better than the others and that's not saying much

>Ten especially needs way less lines

Agreed, I can't stand his singing and the way he dances makes me cringe. I don't get his hype at all

No. 60628

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oh my girl best girl group

No. 60747

I know this was posted in kpop crit, but wanted to comment here how sweet and genuine Jimin is to donate to help fellow students from Busan get a scholarship.

No. 60748

I still love this song so much. Happy Halloween anons!

No. 61017

The lucas part is killing me kekekekek what IS this?

No. 61018

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He went off for those babies

No. 61022

I'm sorry but his face is so childlike to me…

No. 61024

He looks kinda like Leslie Cheung tbh, needs to act in some dramas or films.

No. 61036

yes please, all his c-fans are desperate to see him in a hong kong movie! he really has that 90s hk heartthrob vibe.

No. 61051

Can he act though?

No. 61089

one time in a interview he said that he started taking acting lessons. tbh the quality of hk actors isn't what it used to be, he doesn't need to be great to get a gig.

No. 61151

This citypop-esqe SM station song featuring former akb member/pd48 trainee miyu takeuchi is cute.

No. 61208

lmao I mean, at least it's still more entertaining than korean air's old video

No. 61273

> He looks kinda like Leslie Cheung tbh
Leslie walked so Lucas could run

No. 61301

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What are your favorite loona songs, anons? Mine are love cherry motion, new and rosy. I'll give an honorable mention to hi high because it got me into loona.

did anyone else like zimzalabim?

No. 61302

girl/odd front (full disclosure girl front is the single kpop song i've listened to the most, probably hundreds of times at this point lul), uncover, loonatic, sweet crazy love, girls talk, rosy, lcm, eclipse, satellite, hi high, valentine girl, rendezvous 18.6y… sorry the list is getting kinda long but I love loona :(

>did anyone else like zimzalabim?

yea it wasn't half as bad as people made it out to be. I even liked the stupid dance.

No. 61396

Heart Attack because 'Chuu attack my heart', also Egoist

The only thing I hate about zimzalabim is wendy.

No. 61439

love & live, you and me together, i'll be there, uncover, sweet crazy love, puzzle, and perfect love. honestly i'd add all of oec's discography except for odd front.

No. 61621

zimzalabim isn't a bad song at all imo but i think rv have way better title tracks. umpah umpah is in my like top 5 rv title tracks and i'm sad everyone calls it basic lol.

No. 62405

I'm surprised by how well they do, considering they now lost literally half of their members

No. 62543

So Vixx's Leo, '90, is doing public service work instead of active enlistment and he spoke about having depression since 2013. I honestly feel bad for these idols. Hope he doesn't get much hate.

No. 62545

I like Leo a lot, so i hope he's doing better. It feels like you get ostracized if you ever speak out against mental health issues or depression in Korea.

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What are your guys' opinions on fellow kpop fans you know irl? Do you think they're cringy or not as bad as everyone says?

Today I stopped to talk to someone doing one of those public dance thingamajigs to KTL about BP and it was a really pleasant experience. I typically try to keep being a kpop fan a secret due to its association with yellow fever and general weirdos, but talking about it somewhere other than lolcow was pretty nice.

No. 62769

I once heard someone playing rv's one of these nights from their car on the street and I almost lost my damn mind. Kpop fans are pretty rare where I'm from and especially in my age group (20+), I only know 2 people who listen to kpop and they are really nice and 'normie'.
Probably helps that they're not blinks or armies

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holy moly i went to superm’s concert and caught taemin’s signed ball

No. 62809

I spoke to a worker at a korean makeup shop and she was really nice about being a bts fan, but i'd love to meet people closer to my age (late 20s/early 30s)

I think about of the ultimate cringe people are really young and immature.

No. 62810

Yooo! Nice, anon

No. 62812

How was the concert?

No. 62813

haha, thank you!

it was pretty awesome! baekhyun’s my ult so i mainly went to see him and kai, but everyone else were so cool on stage! i think my lungs are dead from shrieking so much

No. 62815

In middle school I had a friend who was a major kpop fan. She made me fucking hate kpop back then because all she talked about was shipping and fanfics and ~uwu babies~

Now I've realized that some of the music is actually nice, and I met up with this girl again recently. Was hoping we had both changed since many years have passed but it's still the same shit. She's still talking about nasty nsfw ships and overall behaves very immaturely. Bad impression for sure. I've definitely met some chill kpop fans though.

No. 62863

Kpop fans are super rare in my town and most people strickly listen to gospel music or country (I wish I was making this shit up).

The first person I came across who liked kpop was chill and didn’t make her life revolve around uwu and oppa and aegyo. Like I never would have guessed she liked kpop. Was cool to meet someone w different interests though.

The second person was the complete opposite. He was a fat neckbeard that loved girl groups. All he talked about were his “kpop OCs” ??? Is that even a thing? But he was and probably still is extremely obnoxious as he was almost 30 when I talked to him.

No. 62872

I love Minnie, and I'm so proud of her. Wengie's face is scary. Song is decent

No. 63717

Ive been into kpop since 2010 and even in 2011 there was a kpop fan at my elementary school. He was good, we both talked about f(x) a lot.
Now in 2019, some ive met irl are kind. My problem is that i really love super junior and many of them just hate suju and only stan "trendy" kpop groups while bashing the rest. Its annoying..

No. 65125

I had this cringy friend irl who got into kpop when bts blew up and she was suuper weird about and had yellow fever (she talked about how she only wanted to date asian guys etc). To be fair she was a weird (but nice and funny) person to begin with and we were in high school. So i’m sure she grew out of it (hopefully). these people definitely exist, but i also had this other friend irl who was obsessed with bts but still was very normal. like she did really well in school and was a very social person. and she barely did anything weird besides scream about bts content which is normal for a fangirl at appropriate times. i guess kpop fans do come in all different forms.

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This conversation doesn't seem to belong in the critical thread but I'd like to know more, if possible?

No. 66768

i know. kpg isnt bumped frequently, and i actually wana know more about jk. Im surprised the personality i guessed for him is correct, even jhope's. because if a person like him performs that well on stage, i can imagine him taking every practice seriously. And if he has the most stage prescence in the group, the company would certainly give him the fakest persona, assuming he would be the one to be able to pull it off.

No. 66776

Kind of seems like bullshit since that Anon just said that and completely left after that.

Also there is this Jinkook shipper in the critical thread who time to time subtly talks about her ship ayn posts pictures of 15 year old jungkook an 20 year old jin.

So I wouldn't be surprised if this was the jinkook shipper trying to get validation from others about them being the closest.

No. 66783

It’s funny that anons can just swoop into a thread and say something like, “I know someone who saw BTS in a public space and they acted more reserved than they do on camera so this is definitive proof that Jungkook is being mistreated by Jimin and Taehyung.” Like there’s literally no evidence and there’s no way you can infer deep truths about their personalities or personal relationships from observing them from a distance one time.

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No. 66790

That's because everyone on the critical thread are mostly (exo-ls) biased against bts.
And if what that anon said is true then this would be viral on Twitter because alot of people have observed bts at the mma/mama and haven't noticed anything

I feel like you can write any kind of fanfics you want about bts on kpop critical as long as it's negative and everyone will believe it for the sake of hating.

You know the kpop critical at this point should just be changed to the "nitpick" because there is nothing critical about.

It's the same posts spamming about how idols (mostly bts) are ugly all day.
I wonder how those anons never get tired of spamming the same stuff every day about how bts are ugly,untalented and deserve everything bad.

No. 66791

Are you the farmer who keeps posting about 'spoiled eggs'?
Just stop, not liking bts =/= being a fan of exo, and vice versa.

No. 66792

Imagine thinking everyone who is tired of the constant nitpicking in the critical thread is the same person. Go back to talking about irene's nasolabial folds,yeri's photoshop, nayeon being ugly and how all of bts are ugly for the 100th time again on the critical thread.

No. 66794

>tired of the constant nitpicking in the critical thread
That's why I called you out, this is the general thread, yet you literally started your post by saying that nearly all people in the critical thread are just bitter exo fans who constantly shit on bts' appearance. Fuck off with your negativity and hypocrisy, it goes both ways, if you don't want anybody saying anything bad about bts or other groups, then the same should go for exo and their fans as well.

No. 66795

>legbeard reeeing
You have literal mental problems if you get this defensive over someone calling you out for spamming about idols being ugly 24/7.
Also i never said one bad thing about exo and just said that their fans here who make up most of kpop critical are acting idiotic kind of like you.
Also just know that your dumb logic can also be used against you, since you think that saying something bad about someone's fans means you hate the group the same can be said about the people who shit on irrational armys.
Have a nice day with your totally unproductive worthless life which centers around you being on lolcow and 4chan 24/7 and whiteknighting exo.

No. 66796

You assume a hell lot, all I did was ask you to not just say that it's all exo fans who are nitpicking others. You keep claiming that without any basis, there's literally no way you could know.
If you were a fan of e.g. got7, how would you like it if somebody constantly posted that people in kpop crit are all evil got7 fans?

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leave this site then, anon, noone cares. we are going to nitpick and post cute koreans all we want

No. 66801

I hope its a comeback teaser and not the carol 3.0

No. 66813

>That's because everyone on the critical thread are mostly (exo-ls) biased against bts.

Nah, you got people like me who just don't like kpop boy groups by default.

When people think of Kpop being shit it's because of femcels like you autism screaming and masturbating about oppars and doing the equivalent of Chinese-like censorship on Twitter for anything slightly critical against them.

No. 66831

kek ur right. it baffles me how someone could be a "jinkook shipper" at this age jfc. (or theyre actually underage)

No. 66832

>everyone I don't like is an exol
Ratmy logic. Kpc is full of akgae ratmies spamming pics and talking shit about their own group. The blackpink and jennie hate is a dead giveaway.

No. 66834

> The blackpink and jennie hate is a dead giveaway.
tbf people can dislike bp for p much the same reasons as they dislike bts (though far less extreme). unsympathetic members (jennie), batshit crazy fans who cry racist the second someone criticizes their bias (happened in the last thread), noisy overproduced music a lot of people dislike, etc. nowhere near as bad as bts but i can’t fault people for not liking bp. kpc is pretty much the vent thread for kpop at this point.

No. 66865

glad we're finally getting new music even if it's just a fan song. hoping that's it's not a ballad and that they'll have a regular comeback in January

No. 67757

Why'd they butcher queen britney's song like this

No. 67759

Nctfags - did that christmas song suck as much as everyone says it does? I don't feel like watching the mv myself. I heard it's doing very poorly… Sm better put some effort into the station that jihyo and momo are gonna be in.

No. 67768

I thought it was cute tbh but I wish I could hear Naeun more

No. 67825

Jaehyun ruined it by being so awkward and flat. Also you can't make out any words with the way he sings

No. 67838

>>67759 Not a nctfag but I used to be, now I listen to them casually.
Anyway, the song SUCKED. You could really hear they aren't that great as vocalists, they didn't harmonize at all and half of the song were high notes that sounded like screeches. :/
The melody was kinda boring but their skills really didn't help..

It's actually very sad cause SM used to really value vocalists and would give them great training.. but Nct just isn't like that.

No. 67840

>>67838 Sorry I'm samefag but I just wanted to add: it's probably why the song isn't performing well. Korea loves ballads.. but they love well sung ballads.

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No. 68889

The chorus is really catchy, but the rest of the song is kind of boring imo. I like that they're ending the ReVe Festival series with something more 'velvet', but I feel like it could have been better.

No. 69035

>listening to exo's first snow
guys i love this group so much

No. 69081

Twice - Fancy (rock version) ???

No. 69183

Lol after all this time we can finally hear what yuta's voice actually sounds like

For any nct anons that might care: what do you think of his singing? It has a nice warm, mellow, and melodic tone that's unique for nct and I think he sings really well. But maybe I'm just a bit biased…

No. 69645

Do you guys think it’d be rude to wear group merch or bring a group’s lightstick to a member’s solo concert?

I’m a MeU who’s going to see Amber just for nostalgia and am hesitant on what’s appropriate in bringing up f(x)… especially since she seems to want to shed her idol image. But she can’t expect anyone to be there for her actual solo music, right?

No. 69657

I personally don't think it's rude. All her fans or most of them were f(x) fans anyway so what's the big deal? Doubt she would even care. You're going to her concert and actively supporting her. That's more important.

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Thanks, anon. The only reason I doubted is because I saw a post on Pann criticizing Wanna One fans for doing it at their solo concerts, but fan culture seems to be more relaxed outside of Korea anyway.

No. 69662

I'm loving this song lately, I didn't bother listening to BVNDIT but they are actually really good. I've been replaying it like crazy, their comeback Dumb was good too.

Also I may have a big gay crush on the rapper. Her voice is eeeeverything.

No. 69664

Always nice to see deep voiced female idols <3

No. 70093

Can we get a Best & Worst Kpop Songs for this year? Thread is a bit dead so I wanted to see what other people liked this year.

Feel free to shit on any of my picks lol I'm listing songs I found myself liking WITHOUT looking at a live or the MV. You know what I mean, most people only like kpop songs if they "see" the group performing, etc.

I'm not looking to share worst because honestly I don't save the songs I hate so I don't remember them.

TOP 10 (no order)

KNK - Sunset
Astro - All Night
Pentagon - Sha la la
Taemin - Want
Giant Pink - Tuesday is better than Monday
CIX - Movie Star
EVERGLOW - Bon bon chocolat
VERIVERY - Ring Ring Ring (they are my cute pick ok? don't judge lol I love retro sounds)
ATEEZ - Hala Hala

Some mentions if people are looking for other songs to add to their list:
SF9 - RPM/Enough
U-KNOW - Follow
Chung ha - Snapping
DAWN - Money
BVNDIT - Dramatic/Dumb/My Error
MAMAMOO - Gogobebe

I'm pretty casual listener so I don't know many B-sides, feel free to share.

No. 70094

Actually this song may be the WORST I heard this year. Yikes when the girl at 0:55 comes in I want to die. I can't BELIEVE the amount of likes it has, wtf…

No. 70097

I know this isn't the critical thread, but holy shit that was awful. The first part of the chorus was decent, but the rest of the song is just noise. Horrible.

No. 70101

I'm self posting like crazy but can I add DONGKIZ to my list? Because they are so fucking cute and the Ghostbusters song they did was so funny. I love the ghost mascot.

OK I'm done lol

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No. 70188

Not familiar with kpopalypse, but damn, it sucks that he’s such a creep. I just skimmed through the first link and agree it’s enjoyable content. Like yellow slug reviews but less kiss assy
I’ve posted this sentiment before, but the criticism in Kpop general has been more thorough and competent than the stuff in the actual critical thread for a long time.
The Nature song >>70094 is the worst outright, but I have to nominate Monsta X’s cb as pretty close.

No. 70222

Katchup is my SOTY. It sounds weird in a good way and it's strangely addicting. Also loved Apink's %%

No. 70615

twice fancy
apink eung eung
exo obsession
red velvet psycho
txt run away

i can't even think of 10. 2019 wasn't a good year for kpop imo.

No. 70790

Does anyone here collect kpop albums? Normally i'm not into that kind of thing, but once I started listening to LOONA I bought some of their albums, and I recently picked up Red Velvet's Summer Magic. I don't think it's something i'd sink a lot of money into, though.

No. 70798

I only get the albums from my fave group, but I draw the line at only getting one of each version.
Sometimes I want to buy from other groups too, but my room is sort of small so there isn't that much space.

No. 70902


idk if it counts as kpop or jpop but this song just makes me angry how did it get released it so shite

seconding >>70222 as one of my favourites. I also recommend the whole GENERASIAN ep by Lim Kim

No. 71404

I'm from Argentina so that one hurt me lol not sure if Japanese releases count but the vampire one they did was so low production and shit that I was so shocked.

So bad because I liked La Vie en Rose and I saw a Weekly with the group and they were really cute. I hope their next comeback is better, I think X1 disbanded but not them right?

No. 71406

One of the best of 2019 for me. Hope he gets more views.

No. 71509

I'm not a big fan of txt at all, but i didn't expect to like their song "new rules" at all. Compared to their bland debut song "crown" I actually found the beat and melody of this interesting. what are ur thoughts?

No. 71549

I can't get into TXT at all. It drives me nuts that they are obviously riding on the coattails of BTS. They're just bland and stale like toast. I cant seem to find a single member interesting, nor do i care about their backstory. I know Bighit is trying to push them onto BTS fans, but they're boring

No. 71604

Same here. I wasn't doubting the fact that theyd use "BTS's little brothers" image for fame. fans would deny it with all their might but its a fact bighits using money to try and push them to success. (which isnt happening anytime soon) they have interesting choreos but thats all theyve got. The whole group's boring and not a single member has charisma. I like a very few number of their songs mainly for the beat but nothing more.

No. 71606

Really like her singing voice.
Style suits her.

No. 71607

pity they didnt have her sing in the group

No. 72049

totally forgot about him and his lists, thanks
he's one of the 5 people out of millions of international kpop fans doing something actually useful

No. 72367

Any anons here into 90s/1st gen kpop? I watched the Infinite Challenge episodes with the H.O.T and Sechskies reunions a couple weeks ago and now I'm hooked. Even though their songs and clothes are super dated and the idols were less than perfect looking, for some reason I find them more charming? 90s groups are pretty much obsolete in online kpop fandom, so I can only sperg about this shit by myself.

Vid related was covered on that reality show Boys24, but I thought it just wasn't that good.. Idunno I'm probably just a nostalgiafag (even though I was pretty much an infant when Sechskies were around kek), but either way it's interesting to see how idols have evolved over time- from the beauty standards to how they act on variety programs and such.

No. 72451

Besides the fact that 90's/1st gen kpop idols worked hard and had talent, they actually ARE more charming and entertaining to watch because they show/have/act out a more natural and unique image compared to idols nowadays who only have 3 personalities to choose from.

No. 72862

I'm glad I'm not the only who feels that way then. I don't mean to turn this into critical or anything, but any idea as to why it became this way? It's not like the industry was any less exploitative in the 90s (in fact, it might have been moreso). If it really is as kpop critical says and it's because most trainees pay their way into groups nowadays, then I don't see how that would prevent them from at least having interesting stage presence/personalities.

No. 72885

this is a stab in the dark since i don't know anything about first-gen idols, but maybe it's because the media released of idols was a lot more controlled/there was less of it? I feel like idols have to keep up a fake/exaggerated persona a lot longer nowadays…
or maybe because back then there wasn't as much of an obvious "formula" for success?

No. 72946

>maybe because back then there wasn't as much of an obvious "formula" for success?

This. During the 90s kpop was taking a lot of inspiration from European and American popular music, the first boy band being formed around that era. The bands focused on a teen audience and slowly morphed into what we see today, the formula was shaped through trial and error. The more obvious the formula for success is, the more strict reinforcement it will get. Back then, the market was new so no one really knew what to do, so they looked at what was trendy in other countries.

No. 72982

Locking this thread due to an overdue merge into k-critical.
When the current k-critical thread is locked the naming convention will be /kpg/.

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