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Phaha, is this for real?? So allegedly V plays games online with ratmies. And you can see Ratmies sending their half-naked characters to his.
They'll rape him if he was in flesh in front of them. But yeah, only men are pigs, right?(>>twitter)
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Isn't that a theory? Or did IU talk about it?
it's the kind of song that I wouldn't mind having to sit through, but I don't see myself coming back to.
I hope Natty sees some success though. Going through 2 survival shows seems rough
i love how calling you a twitterfag made you go from>Ya'll are so aggressive on here lol
to>bunch of titty ass retards
anyway, this is not twitter. if you can’t hide how autistic you are you just need to fuck off
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The only Kpop song that I like is Russian Roulette by Red Velvet, though that's probably because I haven't listen to much Kpop in general. I've checked out the rest of the album but none of the other songs could hit the same spot Russian Roulette did. What are some other Kpop songs that have the same 'feel' as Russian Roulette?
Full albums are rarely similar to title tracks, you've gotta look for other promoted songs (usually anything with a music video on yt) if you want something super catchy like Russian Roulette. Red Velvet have quite a few songs like that, my favs are Dumb Dumb and Ice Cream Cake. Other SM girl groups like f(x) and Girls Generation are a good start, they all use the same producers.
tbh Russian Roulette is a god tier song and most groups could only dream of releasing such a bop.
>>87737>because if they said "fag" or "retard" on their accounts they'd be attacked by stans within minutes
no one cares about that anymore, people only make a fuss about that when they want to get your account suspended for something unrelated you said about their fave. but twitterfags only say it here to fit in.>>87730
red flavor? power up?
>>87608>This thread is no longer just the critical thread. So stop bitching if someone starts fangirling. This is now the general kpop thread as well, not your personal safespace.
Genuinely impressed at how many contradictory statements you've managed to fit into such a small number of words. I wouldn't be shocked if the entire moderation team on LC is underage considering how inarticulate all of you come across as.
And why keep referring to the rules page when the moderation isn't even in the slightest carried out in accordance to it? Either:
1) consistently update it with a list of bannable offences, or
2) stop issuing public bans listing reasons that aren't in the rules, or
3) forget about the rules page and implicitly admit that you’re making up new & arbitrarily enforced rules around every corner that only the most avid LC residents can keep up-to-date with. Which would be totally fine too and in fact a throwback to early chan culture. All that I ask from you is cut it with the duplicity.
You don't know about tripfagging and the fact that it's banned here, yet I'm the twitterfag outsider. lmfao
I don't even have a twitter account and that was my very post in this thread.
Nothing in the OP isn't already in the rules. >You don't know about tripfagging
Yeah I do, what does that got to do with anything? >>87745
You don't even know how to properly delete your posts. >>87739
I agree, but it makes them stand out when they try too hard.
I like it, the breakdown is cool. I don’t know if I would listen to it often but it’s a decent debut. I like it way more than Somi’s debut.
afaik chungha’s debut wasn’t that
great yet she’s managed to build up momentum so Natty probably can too
The only thing I don’t like is her voice, especially during the prechorus. Is that what she sounded like on sixteen? Her dancing looks good though.
It’s a B-side but I remember liking this when I was on my Russian Roulette vibe.
Speaking of Red Velvet, I would love for them to release something along the lines of Automatic again.
the whole pink tape album was really good tbh
it was weird how even tho snsd was the cow cash of sm at that time, their albums were mostly really filler and boring whilst f(x) as all over the place as they were actually had some good songs on their albums
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t's bullshit how Mr Mr is thought to be one of SNSD's worst comeback songs (when The Boys exists). Love Mr Mr. The concept and styling were on point and looks-wise they were at the top of their game.
Can we share our favourite kpop albums? Mine would probably be f(x) Pink tape & Red light imo they the have 0 fillers. My favourite songs from their other albums would be sweet witches,love, lollipop, mr.boogie,ice cream,jet, zig zag.
Wonder Girls reboot is also a good one
Brown Eyed Girls usually have good b-sides BASIC and Black box are decent, AOA also have good b-sides (sometimes even better than titles) Under the Street Lights, Girl's Heart, Just the two of us, You know that, 10 seconds, Ninety Nine - for example
Best japanese albums to me are SNSD Girls & Peace, After School Dress to Kill
As for boy groups Exo, Shinee and sometimes Vixx are kinda listenable, oh and idk about their other songs but Sunset by KNK is like the best boy group song ever to me
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I agree with your opinions on f(x)’s discography and what you said about BEG, but I would say that EXO’s and SHINee’s can be considered pretty good for K-pop and beyond just listenable. SHINee’s later stuff from Odd and beyond especially would be considered some of my favorite albums.
To add on, I like almost every track on Perfect Velvet.
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i haven’t agreed with an opinion this much in a while lol. the only difference i have is that vixx, exo, and shinee are top tier when it comes to boy group discography. even though it just released 1719 by hatfelt has no skips for me. miniskirt by aoa, truth or dare by gain, perfect velvet by red velvet, purpose by taeyeon, blooming days by exo-cbx, odd by shinee (i think it’s one of the most well put together albums in kpop), goodbye by bap, and revive by beg are ones that i always listen to.
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I love exo's universe winter album, it's their best album imo. I also love Day6's moonrise and sunrise, they have 0 skips for me. Tbh Day6 is the only group where I genuinely like every single song.
Everything in exo went downhill after this album, it really is their best >>87796
4 walls and reboot are by far my favorite kpop albums
Do you guys have a kpop song you always go back and listen to? For me it's replay by shinee, i never get sick of it. sting by stellar deserves an honorable mention
Totally agreed about Pink Tape, I actually bought it just to demonstrate my approval. Other favs>GD&TOP Volume 1 >Boa's self titled english album >Tense by TVXQ>Catch Me by TVXQ>XOXO by Exo >Girls & Peace by SNSD>Solar by Taeyang>Absolute 1st Album by T-ara>To Anyone by 2ne1
Apparently I don't like many full albums beyond 2nd gen, I'm pretty picky and always delete songs I don't love from full albums. It's funny because I can have like, 15 songs from one group but they'll be from 10 different albums. And some of my all time favourite songs are the only song I like from that group. Kpop is really hit and miss.
I like all of Exo's albums, especially their first but imo nothing beats DMUMT.
Many thought Tempo is too weird (vocally it's god-tier) and therefore didn't even give the rest of the album a chance but the other songs are totally different, I absolutely love all but one. Smile on my face is probably my fav, at first I thought it must be one of their earlier songs because the intro has a sort of dreamy old kpop sound to it. 24/7 is also very sweet.
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Apparently Suran and Suga has gotten into yet another dating rumour. Didn't they get into a dating rumour back in 2018? Even dispatch can't save them now. They have covered for them long enough.
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i saw this too, it seems like it stemmed from suga posting a screenshot at a random time, and then suran posting it at the same time, but having the lyrics "are you happy now" that were at a different time
knetizens seem to be dismissing this as suran attention-whoring/doing media play instead of a concrete dating rumor since she was the one who started the previous one by captioning something as a play on suga's
her response is super weird though, she basically posted in a comment that "the collab thing started with mine and i didn't think he would collab more after me" as if artists don't collab super often with other artists….
honestly to me it just sounds like bitterness/envy rather than a dating rumor, maybe she had a thing for him and is stirring the pot but who knows?
him saying it at a Japanese interview back when they were not as super popular so they had more control over whatever they said/produced. even if you look at the original wording rather than the translation, its that. and then when he got backlash for this and more questions about it he kinda had to keep quiet. its kinda sus
if theres a member whos likely to not be straight its suga. hes also done weird innuendos in his music
miyeon is korean. yuqi and shuhua are chinese, and minnie is thai.
they were joking about her being bad at games, it's not that deep, even tho i agree with the soyeon and the backup dancers sentiment
If you tell the "Soyeon and her friends" thing to their fans even though it’s obvious
, they will eat you up. They are not ready to admit it. Cube really has been trying to clone a Hyuna 2.0 with either Soyeon or Soojin.
was it though? if you read the original script it translates into what it is. the og sentence implies that he doesn't have an ideal type but that the general atmosphere of the person matters, and this is not limited to opposite gender
also why would bigshit pass off his lyrics in cypher 3 in the first place and other sus shit hes said in the pre-hyyh era
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Jackson is getting spooky
i never understood why idols post scale pics like these knowing their fans will worry and possibly misunderstand it
by the way, excluding jaejoongs retarded prank, was there any idols who actually got diagnosed with coronavirus?
he’s definitely has a problem. i remember back when i was a got7 fan, he would always be insecure about his legs being too short and looking like an elephant. hope he doesn’t take this too far and gains some weight >>87895
none that were widely reported. some people thought chungha, iu, and everglow almost caught it because of staff who got sick tho
Soyeon’s already way
more likely to reach Hyuna-tier levels of popularity than Soojin. She’s responsible for so much of not only G-Idle’s music but also for other artists’ too. I feel like Cube wanted to debut her as a solo artist but realized that she needed a group to carry her their first.
Anyway, her clips on Queendom make her seem hard to work with, and the fact that she conveniently has the most lines on tracks she’s helped produced contributes to my image of her as a little self-centered.
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So SM has been offering this service called "Dear U Bubble" since early this year, where fans can pay to basically have a "private" SNS conversation with their oppa
Basically they get "private" canned messages into their phone that feels like they're being texted directly
It's so creepy, and stars are taking it super far with the boyfriend fanservice. I wish all of this boyfriend image selling would go away, this just feeds the preteen delulus even more
I'm also imagining some exhausted staff member just typing all these cheesy responses out as a part of their job and laughing at the absurdity of it
i agree, eating disorders are likely rampant in the industry due to the pressure to look "good".
i was watching a vlive the other day with nct dream, and jisung read out a comment asking jaemin to eat more, and jaemin basically laughed and said he was 55kg (120lbs) but now he was 58kg (127lbs), which is still teetering on unheathily underweight for his height at 5'9"/5'10"
it did seem like the members were concerned about his weight loss, but it's scary to see how rampant eating disorders and likely body dysmorphic disorders are in kpop
all he's ever said is that line in one of the cypher tracks about making men and women come with his tongue (in context it's a play-on-words that basically just translates to "i am very good at rapping"), and once responding to being asked about his ideal woman with "my ideal partner would be…" instead of "my ideal girlfriend".
naturally deluded fujos take this to mean he "has a preference for men"
additionally, i highly doubt a currently promoting idol, especially one from a successful company would be allowed to come out.
korea is still very conservative, even the basically out-idols (like jokwon) still pretty much deny or ignore the rumors instead of addressing it because the backlash would be immense
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I hate how everybody always shits on fangirls and pities idols while everything they do, no matter if it's their lyrics, their dances, what they post or what they say during fansigns is manipulating teens into becoming obsessed with them. I do feel sorry for the nugu female idols who have to endure sweaty neckbeards, but not top groups like Exo or Bts. They're nearly 30 and millionaires, doing fanservice is obviously their choice, they ramp up it up because they know it sells. Baekhyun and Kai also do that despite having experienced first hand how their fans react when they date. It's their own fault, you can't profit of selling fake love without one day having to reap the consequences. All idols are basically scammers.
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JYP seems not too bad. Plus aren't the girls families wealthy?
holy crap, SM makes so much money if you think about how absolutely loaded all their main idols are despite the pretty company-skewed percentages
didn't people joke that the newest SM building was basically built off of one EXO album?
SM artists get a good deal. That 70% cut of overseas promotion is what you want when you're doing massive dome tours. The other categories are chump change in comparison. It's also not quite accurate, the cut of physical album sales scales with the amount they sell.
I would love to see a source for these though, not 'kbizoom' or w/e but the actual korean source documents. SM's distribution was revealed in the court documents from JYJ's case, and presumably it's not the same for every group anyway, not even for TVXQ since they negotiate when they re-sign. I don't remember seeing any other companies releasing information like this in detail, except for this info on JYP which contradicts the chart>https://nomediaplay.tumblr.com/post/173355208179/people-say-that-jyp-idols-have-50-50-contracts>On royalties from overseas music/content sales, JYP artists get to keep 5-30% (depending on artist and product). >On money from artist management, JYP artists get to keep 50% of the remaining gross profit after deducting costs for agency fees, marketing, activity costs, accommodation costs and training costs.
that, and the fact that they probably receive a ton of sponsored stuff as well as expensive ass fangifts
even the less popular members have some semblance of fansites who will buy things for their birthday and stuff, even if it's not at the level of the EXO guys
didnt a chinese fansite buy chanyeol like three rolexes? i dont understand why these people give literal millionaires extravagant gifts like they cant afford it themselves
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I thought SM artists stopped accepting gifts years ago? Anyway airport fashion is like this huge thing in Korea so I know for sure that their airport outfits are mostly borrowed from stylists. Sometimes even the stuff they wear on vlives/vlogs. They can afford nice clothes regularly with their own money but probably just afford the low-middle and mid-tier luxury stuff, but definitely cannot afford to dress in head to toe high-end luxury like this on the daily. Their last comeback did do well so they could just be beginning to rake in the cash for themselves. Can’t speak for WayV though bc they’re loaded nepotist kids
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Just a poll from niziupdates twitter
-your prediction for final lineup
Did anyone watch NCT Dream's live concert today?>>87942
The only ones I find pretty are number 2 and 6
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Nina is 100% debuting. I like her a lot, but it feels weird that she's JYP's new Somi.
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Day6 is halting all promotions days before their album releases, I hope they're all ok, I can't see JYPE doing this unless it was really bad, but maybe this is finally a step in entertainment agencies treating their artists like people and acknowledging mental health as an actual thing
Day6 is one of my favorite groups, so I'm sad they won't be performing but happy they're getting rest
I saw what expensive shit wayv gifted each other like a year after debut and thought that was suspicious af. Sm probably gives nct brand stuff to act as if they bought it themselves because fans dig idols being rich (see bp or bts).>>87981>several members suddenly all have anxiety
I'm sorry but some idols nowadays act like tumblrinas. Since Mina got a break, a disproportionately high number started claiming the same condition. What mental illness will be trendy next, will we get a bunch of idols saying they have bpd? Is this some kind of scheme by jyp to paint himself has kind caring and woke boss, when in reality he's actually a cult member and major creep?
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Kpop 100% attracts and breeds mental instability in their idols and in their fans. The whole thing is a circus dumpster fire. I read an article about this topic a couple of years ago and it hits a lot of points.
Link to it: http://www.moonrok.com/kpop-attract-mental-instability-breed/
I’ll post screenshots here:
99% of idols are narcissists. It’s a given fact. Nearly all of them probably suffer from anxiety and depression or other disorders. They coexist, it comes with the whole package. You can’t convince me that any of them are mentally stable.
Quote from the article:
“Cinderella Stories” are non-existent, especially in Kpop. Celebrities hustle their entire pre-pubescent lives to make it in the entertainment industry, and they do so only because they are confident in one thing and one thing only: themselves. To even want to be a celebrity you have to not just believe, but actually know that you are better than everyone else, and deserving of the extra attention, respect, and money that the masses will eventually heap upon you. And even if they don’t start as narcissists, it’s easy to believe that Kpop idols could evolve into them. Kpop fans fuel the celebrity ego with fervor. They wait outside for hours in the rain, snow, and heat just to catch a glimpse of their favorite idols on their way to work. When the two minutes it takes you to walk from your van into the radio station equals 6 hours of a fan’s time waiting for you, it’s hard not to start thinking that you are in fact better than everyone else.
Meanwhile a “fanmeet” is basically a euphemism for a tribute ceremony: the idols sit on an elevated platform as their fans proceed one by one to kneel before them to offer up expensive gifts before the idols give them a smile, pat them on the head, and send them on their way. It is this kind of over-the-top fan behavior that allows idols to start believing in their own hype.
I'm not shocked at all. Thanks for posting this. So many trainees are pretty much taken from school and their parents as young as 11 or 12 and put into harsh regimes and training for years until debut. So many of them (especially female trainees) end up with massive mental issues and inability to socialize.
Are there any cases from first or second gen kpop artists who got out and dont know how to function?
isn't somi's dad kind of a manager-type? he seems to push somi and her sister into entertainment pretty hard, and her sister is still pretty young.
i don't think its "dance moms" level, but it's definitely more than what a normal parent would push for, especially since he's an ex-entertainment guy himself and should 100% know how the industry is
if i were a parent who went through the industry, i don't think i'd push my underage children through it as hard as he did
i agree, especially when her mom posts pictures of herself with captions patting herself or her husband on the back for being "good parents"
they're literally exploiting their child on the internet, i wouldn't be surprised if they tried to force her into going solo once she's old enough to be able to join a trainee group and plaster that all over the internet too
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im so disturbed by non-korean idols morphing into koreans as time goes on. when i saw that natty was debuting, i literally couldn't recognize her. looking at her transformation from a girl who actually looked thai on sixteen, to a girl that looked a little bit thai on idol school, and now shes literally unrecognizable. she pulled a lisa
SEA/Black features are looked at as low class you
know this and I know this anon
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idols should lose more weight, look how pretty Lizzy was
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i'm serious, everyone looks better when they lose weight(Shoo shoo skeleton)
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she looks like this
What's wrong with the girl on the left's face? Looks like it's melting.
Anyway, I'm also curious about 1st and 2nd gen idols' "life after fame", anyone has success/failure stories to share?
A decent example would maybe be MBLAQ? They weren't top tier when they were active, but people knew who they were and they weren't a meme (looking at you, UKISS)
But after they disbanded, no one really cares about them anymore. I think Lee Joon is the most successful because he's actually a half decent actor, and GO is a streamer? I remember he was in a ton of news when he was getting engaged/married because he was just whoring their wedding out on stream for donations
I don't even know what the other three are doing, they seemed to just fade into obscurity since none of them are talented enough to go solo
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because black people literally created kpop?
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I wouldn’t say they’re the most racist or even racist lol
Just kinda ignorant call me a ratmy but I honestly don’t feel genuine racism from them
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Does lolcow have an “our group” lol?
For girl groups, no.
For boy groups, a lot of farmers are low key NCTzens or rats.
I would say there are a lot of posters in the thread who are fans of nugu or disbanded groups.
What's with this weird avatarfagging?>>88106>bts>the most racist of them all.
kek how can you say this when Mamamoo has actually done blackface.
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Kpop guys kinda look like lesbians
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Our fanservice king struck again: this is his reaction to somebody commenting that it's their birthday (and of course ratmys celebrate it as savage and hilarious).
Surely more than a couple hundred people are watching him, meaning chances are high that's always at least one of his fans birthday.
Is somebody writing this already considered oppressive towards idols nowadays and warrants them defending themselves? What even are you allowed to say to them when everything is either considered hate or fetishization?
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Gidle's Shuhua apparently ripped into a malicious commenter on Saturday, is this the first time an idol's openly called out an anti this hard? She seemed pretty pissed because apparently it's the same anti who managed to get Soojin to read out a comment about how ugly she was
On one hand it's refreshing that she had the balls to call them out, on the other hand I'm cringing because this probably just adds more fuel to the fire
nina looks very european>>87986
fuck off. if anyone is going to suffer with anxiety i bet its going to be people that have to deal with thousand upon thousands of people on the daily.
I mean, exhibit A: Natty
we covered this earlier
you don't need talent or looks anymore, you just need money
half of the idols right now in the big three are just rich kids who's parents paid for them to live the famous idol dream, very few of them are actually talented which is why the quality of the big 3 has gone down so much
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Top 5 prettiest idols of all time
2- Bae Suzy
4- Jessica Jung
Your average white celebrity does neither blackface nor do they outright mock others for having darker skin. Ariana Grande and Kim K are literally known for ca and they've been cancelled by many black people long ago already.>>88168>They talk about it often.
Not OP but that's kind of the point: they constantly talk about, there's hardly a day without a scandal, that must be so stressful. Why do they continue consuming kpop although that means constantly getting their feelings hurt? Kpop is copying black music, finding a cute western guy with a similar style and stanning him instead shouldn't be too difficult.
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It's not even just talent, the rich kid idols never even had to develop a personality. That's what was so good about the 2nd gen idols. If they weren't talented, you could bet that they'd be funny at least. I was rewatching old idol variety episodes from around 2010 and it's amazing how hilarious they still are. Female idols aren't afraid to look dumb or ugly and they say pretty edgy things (relatively). Nowadays, there's maybe one funny member and the others stand around looking blank or there's just obviously scripted fan service moments. Twice are probably the best of the bunch.
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Winner's Mino is in the news for going to a bar during this entire COVID situation. I know Korea's technically slowed down their restrictions and opened up bars (which is a whole other issue), but how many more celebrities are going to get caught going clubbing before this all goes down?
So far we have Jungkook, Gyuri, Mino, and possibly Cha Eunwoo?
I don't get how it's so hard to just not go clubbing while this is all going down, especially since Dispatch seems to be circling the bars waiting to catch them out
>>88225>>youtuber ran into JK in an alley behind a bar
Its even more funny when you realize that the majority of koreans have the same skin tone as yuri (and even darker than that)
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SM released a magazine cover of the youngest 127 boys and honestly I think they look pretty good here.
They're still young and look their age, and I actually really like the more natural styling instead of the grungey e-boy look SM has been trying to push lately
I thought he promised to be a good boy after his scandal? But instead he's hanging out with a dude who's got tattoos all over his head in a dark alley during corona…? Did ratmys bury this or why didn't he get any backlash from knets? Other idols get shit for simply posting a selfie lately.
And I can't imagine Cha Eunwoo clubbing, all he ever does is pose and smile awkwardly.
honestly i'm surprised too, idols get shit for going to clubs period so i'm surprised he didnt get any kind of backlash for this
i'm convinced Big Hit buys out a lot of the gossip/tabloid websites to keep BTS out of the news
Honestly once their popularity wanes I can see them being outed as super messy/shit people, kind of like Kangin and Seungri after they stopped being popular. Jungkook is only 25 and already has gotten into some messy scandals, once he gets older it probably will be a shitshow
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I think all of us lowkey are unanimous on the obviously talented groups like TVXQ in their prime or more recently, Shinee. I haven't seen anything negative about Shinee aside from Taemin looking like the child of Gackt and Oli London since his first mini album.>>88163
There's quite a few ex-Big Three trainees that ended up in flop groups because they wouldn't debut any time soon. Examples being Jinho of Pentagon who was in SM the Ballad as a trainee and later left SM before NCT debuted.>>88167>>88170> Armys spread it was a gay bar> It was just a normal bar. I really can't comprehend why kpop fans want idols to be gay so bad.
Because they'd rather have their bias be gay than date a girl that isn't them>>88181
My personal picks:
Kim Jihye (To-Ya, the 1st gen Irene, in pic)
Sung Yuri and Lee Hyori (FinKL)
Nam Gyuri (Seeya)
Kwon Nara (Hello Venus)
Jang Wonyoung (I*Zone, not a pedochan)
Nana (After School)
Lee Naeun (April)>>88210
She's kinda a queen, I wonder if 15& Jimin is jealous of her success since Square (2017) blew up.>>88218
Ironic bc Hyuna was initially tanned, which was considered sexy, and her song Ice Cream mentioned something like "chocolate ice cream, like my brown skin". But when she sings that song at concerts, she's ghostly white.
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Pic of Nam Gyuri as well
Definitely Agree anon. Im watching Produce Camp/Chuang 2020 and the youngest contestants are all 18/19.
Also have the chinese produce shows gotten rigging accusations yet? So far i haven't seen any evil editing yet but mostly just some questionable screentime distribution.
It's because celebrities are typically mentally stuck at the age at which they become stars. He's kind of similar to Justin Bieber in a way with the early fame and the shitty tattoos and generally edgy behavior. He's also from Busan where being 'manly' is a standard among the guys, although not all guys from Busan are this cringey.
Thankfully JK keeps this stuff on the DL or else we'd actually have some cringe material, probably like Jay Park levels of cringe.
i think jk also keeps this on the DL because he's an idol and the company still has influence over him, jay park didn't wild out with the cringey fuckboy tattoos and pics until he left the company
is he the first currently promoting idol to have hand tattoos? im surprised BH let it fly, considering korea's pretty conservative view on tattoos in general
but i agree, he didn't have a childhood and is definitely going through the eboy/sadboy phase right now
For Jimin, its the racist stuff he's done : japan atomic bombing tshirt and calling jungkook a nigger. (They could reveal something about jimin's racist attitude that would tarnish their ~woke~ image that ratmies somehow believe) . For V, he's been caught smoking a juul (in which rats say is "actually" a "crayon holder" kek) His persona's changed drastically as well. I'm just hoping there's a few milk from his new bitchy behavior towards fans.
On the other hand, Suga might have had a relationship with suran that bighit's covered. Him being a heavy drinker could possibly lead to some milk. imo nobody cares about jin because hes boring and nobody cares about rm and jhope coz they're fug. then again all these are just assumptions and elaborated on what i think could be covered up for the three of them
Didn't he do all of his tattoos on his 'vacation'
Bighit probably didn't even know about them until he got caught with his dick on tattoo girls ass. He seems very rebellious. Which is ridiculous for a grown ass man.
G-Dragon has hand tats, and I think a couple other YG artists do too.
Jungkook is a big YG fanboy, and his eboy phase is definitely heavily inspired by GD pre-army service.
i feel like suga and suran definitely had something going on, she was super salty about him collaborating with IU in a very petty almost ex-gf way
bighit definitely has the money right now to cover up scandals, but once their fame wanes and the older members go to the army im sure more stuff will come out
also army fans always talk about "clearing searches" on twitter, so they definitely have a hand in trying to bury rumors and stuff that come up too
They're trying to clear two searches right now lol ;
First is Jungkook club
second is Hoseok Juul
lmao, idk what the second one is about
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>>88285>Also looked like he did his eyes, his double eyelid was awkwardly bigger in the picture he posted with his new short hair
his eyelids look different sometimes, i think it's because he uses that tape
thats because bigbang debuted at a time where most boygroups did only cringy cute/boyfriend concepts.
Also i dont think bigbang was ever considered kpop in korea, like they were seen more as musicians. Its only the retarded international fans that thing any korean group is kpop.
i love how they probably did that entire segment solely so they could shill whatever yogurt sponsor they have
i love how shameless asian sponsorship is lmfao
apparently kris is supposed to be on this show too?
Ironically each of them make more money in a year than entire Exo combined. According to Forbes in 2017 (it's likely even more now) Luhan earned 33 million USD, Kris 23, Lay 15 and Tao 14…Exo isn't poor either but nowhere near that level. So I totally get why chinese kids want to debut in Korea only to go back to China within a year, especially variety shows in China pay supposedly 100 times as well as in Korea. That Gugudan girl nobody ever cared about is also ranking super high in Chuang.>>88300
Yeah, because the original mentor was outed as a cheater by his gf lol
i agree, I like NCT a good amount and have to admit they're not funny, they're all super awkward and have zero variety chops
Anytime they go on weekly idol or some other stupid show it's always a disaster because they're so awkward and the show just derails into uncomfortable aegyo overlapped with Mark's hysterical giggling
it's because they primarily promote in china, they're pretty much never allowed to promote in music shows in korea
and unfortunately in china they're not popular because SM's sister label isn't big in China, despite most people knowing they're under the SM flag.
it's really unfortunate to see, because the WAYV kids despite being from nepotist backgrounds actually are really funny on variety, but I wonder if that's just the editing and way chinese shows are structured
YG already has piss poor management, and this is their first "big" group, right? I'm sure it's going to be a whole mess especially since YG heavily favors one or two members, even in smaller groups
Half the group isn't even going to get lines honestly, it's going to be YG's version of the Mark&Taeyong show
Big Bang was literally formed by an idol show, made public friendly pop music their entire career, and had the idol management formula just like any other idol group. How is this basic ass pop song the work of a genius?>>88320
I too was also perplexed as to why Ikon failed and I think that this is due to the rise of BTS. Big Bang was regarded as senior idols by 2013, and they hardly released anything in comparison to BTS at that time, when you consider that Alive was in 2012 and Made came out in 2015. BTS had consistent comebacks which always centered around the artistry of the group (i.e, "legitimate" rap and Suga & RM's producing/composing abilities). That gap between 2013 to 2015 gave them enough time to create their image as humbled artists. Then the gap after Made (2016-) gave them an empty house to fill the shoes of the "Kings of Kpop" role that Big Bang had (with YT views and their crazy fans). Big Bang may have not been exiled by 2015-2016, but when they did come back, they had aged, and younger fans who found the artist BG image appealing would naturally gravitate towards newer groups (aka BTS). Why stan an older boy group when they only release stuff every 3 years (and are basically retired)? Big Bang did nothing for the next couple of years, but BTS was really lucky when BB went through the Burning Sun scandal and lost respect from the Korean population. Now they truly have no other BG on their 'level' of respect except maybe Seo Taeji & the Boys (for domestic popularity), but BTS's success is absolutely unheard of (Psy is regarded as a joke, fyi). This means that BTS will continue to be celebrated by the Korean GP as Big Bang was referred to as "Gods" for years, and that they will likely have to face similar scandals, especially something like the Burning Sun scandal, to be disavowed by the public.
what's with the photos>>88205
I started watching youth with you! I wasn't expecting to like it that much but I do. I like kun a lot, he seems like a kind person. I feel sorry for Lisa cause I get the feeling she has no idea what's going on half the time and just smiles blankly. Also Yu Shuxin is annoying as all hell.
same anon as >>88331
, I think Yuta is ok once in a while, but he does seem aloof most of the time and doesn't talk often. jungwoo is entertaining once in a blue moon (that nct red flag blue flag game bit he did made me laugh)
I do find the dream kids rather entertaining, but their humor is pretty slapstick and revolves around being super chaotic, but at least its still remotely entertaining to watch unlike 127https://youtu.be/0jMd9sPtR3U
>>88330>Don't just paste a low effort link. Post images, this is an imageboard
(also along with the obvious twitterfags, whats up with posting an unrelated image with your post (see >>88125
for example)? this is an imageboard but not every message has to have an image, lurk harder
also sorry for the plz spoonfeed meh but question for the anons who watch whatever show lisa is a mentor in: what language does she speak there? as far as i know she doesnt speak chinese, do the trainees understand english?
sorry–i meant >>88311>>88340
lisa primarily mentors in english from what i've seen, and talks in thai in her interview portions. i'm assuming they have translators on hand for the trainees as well
Oh sweet summer child… koreans are definetly not over GD, his limited edition nike sneakers sold out in seconds, his cf with some beverage was a hit etc etc one he releases something they'll eat it up regardless how much shit netizens talk about him in comments section.>>88302
Dont think they particularly fucked vut iirc both girls were major koreaboos that's why they recognized him in the first place. The thotiest cow even dated a korean dude lol>>88319
What do u mean no groups lile bigbang? Idk about their new flop group of uggos but winner and ikon are literally walmart bigbang??? Song Mino is basically popular on the principle of being GDs xerox>>88327
I second >>88329
. Koreans dont even like bts they just show some "respect" for patriotic reasons. They're like "its cool that theyre popular in the US but why tho". BTS barely breakthrough the idol niche, uncle and aunts cant tell the members name like they did with Bigbang and SNSD, they barely have a hit attached to their name etc etc
If you think for a second slimy, drunk fuckboy jimin didn't at least get a handy from le big tits then you are sadly mistaken.. and delusional.>>88309
Uh no… salty underage fans think he's a 25 year old virgin. Please don't live in outer space your entire life.
I don't understand why they push the funny concept so much, just because BTS had success acting like on speed?
NCT Dream and WayV are loud and "dorky" to appeal to teens, NCT 127 could just say Hey we're the mature ones, we don't do that, we just sing, dance and talk. No big deal, not everybody has to be a "crackhead".>>88315
That's unfortunate. But if this is the case, why are the Exo and the ex Exo members so popular in China? (I recently looked that up, they each have 50+ million followers on weibo) or for example Yoona as well? When even idols from korean nugu groups hit it big there, one would think that success as an SM group is a given.
Irene's face is so boring to look at, she's probably the blandest visual.
Even Yoona's face has more charm than hers.
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he’s the lee sooman of jpop, except he started his company when lsm was still a teenager. johnny made some of the most popular/successful male jpop solos/groups. kpop is heavily influenced by the trainee system that he used and the music his idols made. i mean sm rookies is a direct rip off of johnnys juniors and smtown live is like johnny’s summary. kpop wouldn’t be the way it is today without having his ideas to rip off. he was a major pedo with so many abuse claims against him from back in the 80s to his death last year. never served any time for it either even though the courts ruled that the victims
testimonies were legit.
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it's definitely super similar, i wonder if he's just dense or just doesn't give a shit anymore
he's also in the scandal about the itawon bars, knetz seem to be swirling about the rumors and demanding BH provide a clarification, so they probably cant just sweep it under the rug like they hoped
considering how they destroyed gyuri and mino and how bad the outbreak turned out to be, hiding it probably will make it worse
apparently ratmy fans are trying hard to bury rumors by reporting every post that mentions it and clearing searches
theyre also trying to say that there's no pictures so it's a fake rumor, i can't wait until pictures actually leak if its true and they have to spin and pretend it's faked/jk is an uwu baby who doesn't go out ever
when will these fans just admit their oppars aren't perfect baby dolls that need to be protected and need to own up to their shit if they do stuff that isn't right lol
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no anon can’t you see he’s “insanely talented”
>>88400>Its obvious he was there.
how so? i'm not trying to defend him, but i'm curious about how this rumor started. there's no pics. what's the source?
we know jimin was clubbing because there was videos of him
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I saw the koreans posting about it the weekend it happened. I saved the video too in which he was supposed to appear. Ratmys made the original local go private on insta. The caption says Bangtan Jungkook is here btw
why link the video without any commentary- this isn't OneHallyu, yk.
i'm tired of these "wannabe boss bitch mixed with generic aesthetic sets" girl group music videos. this song sounds just as basic too- but ig expected from the group that comes from Chungha's company iirc
it's bad because korea is barely recovering from the COVID situation, and despite the bars technically being open people should know better than to go out
this only got worse because a big COVID breakout happened after a bunch of people went to the bars, so SK is on edge
Anon this is amazing. But if you have the video why post screenshot instead of it?>>88376
What is it with Jungkook and scandals? Is he over it and trying to end his career? BH can't afford to pay off people anymore? Someone in the industry wants to destroy BH's cashcow? Or maybe he is, in fact, retarded?>>88378
This is so ugly. How can stans unironically call this a masterpiece and say "his art goes beyond imagination". This is why art history should be mandatory.
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Alright this is the milk
Who would've thought "golden maknae" would be the groups trouble maker. He seems to go out to drink a lot. I honestly believe his car accident was a dui.
Looks like this dating rumor may have been truehttps://twitter.com/mazedbybts/status/1260614126327431169?s=19
It was posted here as well >>88376
>>88378 Still, wonders never cease and this has all been very hilarious.
He doesnt actually appear tho, it's just a guy in the corner that could ve him judging by the clothes only since there's no face
I can upload it anyways just need a website i can easily drop anonymously, no sign up necessary
It's a Jack Daniel's bar btw, there's one in my city too. Basically the opposite of being a gay bar (annoying straight dudes attendance), RIP shippers.
all of this happening reminds me of jungkook's song. it isn't the most complex composition though, it's just a pop song. he's frustrated about not being able to have a normal life like his friends. also possibly about not being able to be with his lover (i can't hold ya)?
but at the end it changes and basically it says he's going to go his way even "if it's opposite of sun" (idol life?) and then:>yes i will touch ya
in conclusion: he's going to to do whatever he wants now, expect more milk in the future https://genius.com/amp/Genius-english-translations-bts-my-time-english-translation-lyrics>inb4 imageboard
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I'm a dumb bitch so had to convert to gif to post here so please forgive me
But here's the junglebook video in Jack's Bar. Please notice his eboy fit on your left.
i thought he wasn't in the video, i thought the video was supposed to be someone filming while the bouncer says something along the lines of "jk is coming"
i dont doubt he probably went clubbing during this entire COVID debacle just because there are so many news sites picking up on this and BH is way too quiet, but this video shows nothing lol
BH isnt known for saying stuff usually, but with the delicacy of the situation and lack of evidence if it didn't happen it would've been very easy for them to say "no he was at home" or something
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A totally random adult person would post a video with the caption jungkook is here because of reasons>>88460
Yes it would be the 0.3 sec arm kek I think they were trying to casually get him on camera, the girl trying to act naturally and all that
Also idk why people are saying this dude was the club bouncer? I saw his insta on that weekend before he went private and he seemed like a normal client rather than staff. No pictures or stories of him working in a nightclub. Screenshot of his latest pics attached.
the thing is he's a celebrity, and whether you like it or not and whether it's right or not they're held at a different standard
when you're raking in millions dancing around for rabid fans you also lose the luxury of dating privately, going to bars, and getting tattoos without having every move scruitinized
no one here is saying he shouldnt be able to do those things, we're just pointing out how shit it is for his image because he's going to get skewered by the public for doing so, and how insane the bts ratmy fanbase is for trying to "protect an uwu innocent baby maknae" from the consequences of his own actions
Who the fuck posted this thread on twitter again
Fucking jkfags coming hur dur theres no proof hes innocent >>88462>>88474>>88459
Are you all clinically retarded?? Read the previous replies ffs anon posted the caption that came with the video. The video per se obviously isnt proof of anything, anon is just providing the full post that gave us the milk. Geez.
Bitch I hate JK.
Two people saying that jk is at a bar does not mean it's proof. Dumbass. Where are the pics? In all of Itaewon NO ONE took a pic (besides the three people that tried to take a video of him according to you) I want the milk.. not hearsay. also fuck off.
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I wonder how much SM is making off these virtual concerts, they just announced TVXQ is doing a beyond live as well
Have they even released any new music in the past year? I know Changmin did something solo recently but it wasn't very good from what I remember
SM usually thrives off of concert sales, so I wonder if they're churning all these concerts out because they're hurting for money
I mean people in LA don't take pics of celebs every time they spot them. Most celebs that are papped are actually paying for it for PR purposes too. So if it's like this in fucking TMZ Murica imagine in South Korea?? This is the country where celebs stay married in secret for years. And idols are like lower tier celebs, so you really think ut's far fetched to believe normal people wouldn't be dying to take a picture of him? Nah they can pretty much leave the house without much hassle. We would have much more scandals otherwise or do you think they all don't ever go outside? Lol
Mino was caught because 1) dispatch isnt on YG payroll 2) he was bringing attention to himself 3) he's a tad more known to the gp since he does a lot of variety and is discount GD
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mino was "caught" because it was a private party and someone at the party leaked the photos. I agree, the general public who sees a celebrity probably isn't dying to take pictures of them in a bar and sell it to a tabloid magazine.
Are you people not reading before you post?
There was an outbreak of corona in itaewon and then jks dumbass went out barhopping there. That's the milk.
the video wasn't me. In fact I'm the anon that video anon was fighting about. I said it wasn't proof first..
The outbreak in Itaewon is fact. SO.
Yeah I know that. Many people don't know that. It's been spread everywhere that it was a gay bar. Irrational people still think it's a gay bar.>>88504
Bitch I know.. I am the one that said he probably wasn't out because there is no proof.>>88505
An easily manipulated screenshot isn't proof lmao
cute, i dont even like bts and i wish you all would shut up about them and shit up this thread with non-milk because you all want them to still be relevant.
also next time sage your shit.
Well no one is actually being critical about that but making a fuss over zero proof (no, i'm not going to believe some ig dms after the same person said jungkook wasn't there, then surprisingly conffirmed it -maybe because it will bring them publicity?- and then said they didn't want the chats going public and wanted to shut down the whole conversation) of these dudes in bar (are y'all forgetting that eunwoo was also there or..) and this anon is right >>88466
so what's the deal? seriously, it's boring I found that video of the spanish dude more interesting
So it's okay for smfags not to hide their powerlevels but ratmies are shameless for daring talking about their oppars even in a neutral way? lmao
>inb4 filthy ratmy
i'm a bored ex-kpopfag whos here mostly for milk
original poster of the zombie mv here, i like "love me or leave me" a lot, but it loses the rocker/band vibe and feels more like an idol band b-side, but it's still really good
i think my favorite song off their new album is "Stop", it has that garage/UK rock vibe to it and i dig it
i have never listened to day6 before idk why, but honestly these few songs you posted hooked me, and i listened to other ones and theyre actually really good.
i used to be a ftisland fag and ngl i recently started to miss them and their sound, and day6 kind of remind me of them.
so thank you anon!
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God I had to go into the depths of korean stan twitter but this were the first dms that they posted
i strongly recommend the real by n.flying too>>88539
good taste anon
they're my ults
out of all the bands currently n.flying and day6 are my absolute favorites. sweet chaos reminds me the most of a garage rock style, almost like older arctic monkey's stuff.
i also really, really liked drug restaurant (JJY's old band), but I can't listen to their music anymore without thinking of that stupid asshole
i used to be SUCH a protective FTI stan that for years i refused to listen to other "idol bands" because to me they were the OG. it's refreshing to mature to say the least lmao.
n.flying are really good too! the real is already my favorite song by them.
thank you so much anons!
i perfectly understand what you mean tbh i used to be a very hardcore army 2 years ago (embarrassing) and had that weird cultist mentality that i'm not allowed to like other bands and need to devote all my love and support to bts or i'm "fake"
a perfect example is how armys always bash on mutlifandom fans for not licking bts' ass 24/7 at any chance they get and then accuse them of "throwing bts under the bus"
If Koreans don't care…why do you? I don't get international kpop fans who think they have a right to say who and who shouldn't be in an industry that isn't for them to begin with. There's been half black idols before, half white ones before, fully non-asian actors,models, idols before …who TF cares when kpop takes from African American culture and Japanese pop culture and then just does everything in Korean?
Some Koreans are xenophobic, some a neutral, some think it's cool and it's weird to speak like Koreans are a monolith or like any of your opinions on the topic matter in the first place. At the end of the day these kpop companies are the ones who decide.
Sometimes you guys sound like koreaboos that believe if they can't do it then nobody can. Or like you have yellow fever and don't want the Asian waifu/husbando fantasy broken.
i like bts and i trust armys a lot more if they are capable of liking girl groups/other groups too, some armys seem very triggered
by girl groups lmao its unhealthy tbh
oh for sure. even when FNC released the news about cnblue i was really upset because i thought they would forget about fti, which i mean they did give cnblue better opportunities but i digress. it's not cnblue's fault. same with n.flying, i just really didnt want fti to be left in the dark when they sort of paved the way for idol bands in my opinion. i'm still salty about a lot FNC did but it has nothing to do with the bands, and i feel awful now for thinking badly about them when they're just kids wanting to play and make music, just like fti.
i really thought i had to be 100% loyal to fti otherwise i would be a bad fan as well. it's such a pathetic mentality and very much had to do with me being young i think, when fti debuted i was 16 years old. i feel like the hardcore army stans must be around that age, at least i hope so because that would be… concerning.
>>88535>i like "love me or leave me" a lot, but it loses the rocker/band vibe and feels more like an idol band b-side, but it's still really good
that is true, i felt the same about Day&Night.
i think stop is so good too! i'm the same anon who said earlier that day6 are the only kpop group/band that i truly enjoy every single song from and i still stand by that after their latest album release
yup, day6 is truly one of those "no skip" bands for me every time they release an album
i hope they all get better soon, i cant wait to see them perform again
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Watch our residents jkfags continuing to deny it while even kmedia is posting blind items about ithttps://n.news.naver.com/entertain/article/382/0000819756?lfrom=twitter
same nflying/day6 fag that's been commenting, i love the nflying anime medley, but that's probably because im a huge nflying fan and also a big weeb
are there any other bands who've covered anime songs? i can't think of any other groups who have
>>88566>that's why he's like this!1!!!1!!!
he went to a fucking bar he didnt kill a man
and he WASNT able to live his youth like most child stars
i mean if he was out clubbing at a normal time it wouldn't make the news, even if he was screwing around with women (like jimin, it didn't make the news and only ratmy fans seemed to care)
the issue is that the world is in a pandemic state, and going out during this time is grossly irresponsible. you can argue that "well the government is to blame because they let the bars open, it's not his fault!" but celebrities are held to a different standard
not to mention the itaewon bar crawls that happened sparked another wave of covid, so it's not a surprise knets are mad
but like many anons said before, theres no concrete evidence and its all speculative, can we please move on
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I kinda like it. I think it's better than their previous releases which isnt much considering the rest of their discography is mostly inoffensive and kinda bland. I wish they had better music, itd be nice to have a gg without forced high pitched vocals and no shitty "rapper"
Tbh I mostly know them as that one group with that really skinny girl. Humour me anons, do you really think that she's just naturally skinny? her names seungeun btw
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googled her and this article came up. https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/04/bvndits-maknae-seungeun-is-earning-mad-respect-from-netizens-with-her-chiseled-arm-leg-muscles
honestly it seems like she works out A LOT, not in a healthy way tho. she's not scarily skelly like hitomi but she literally has 0% body fat so i dont know…
You can also say the same about the 90s bubblegum pop "idol" industry in the US. Lou Pearlman, the creator of NSync and the Backstreet Boys, was also a pedophile. Child actors in the West are commonly molested by adults in the acting industry. I wonder if the same pedophile ring that exists in the US has ties to K-media.>>88426>>88480
His gf is hella ugly. He must be into fakebois or a closeted gay.>>88445
He's a white dude–what do you expect? I'm honestly very surprised that it's taken this long for a white male to have a bitchfit about not being able to become a kpop idol.>>88580>>88582
No, this is not 'naturally skinny'. This is called "on the brink of death anachan". I can confirm as I am a former anachan.
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I think we can all agree this is the best kpop album of all time
more like most overrated imo. sure, cry about how f(x) never got comebacks, but their music isn't for everyone and aged pretty bad like most early 10s k-pop. this album is always said to be one of the best, but i barely remember a single song from that album. four walls was a better album, but certainly not the best in k-pop. i'll admit most of f(x)'s discography is better than most girl groups now and from back then.
my personal top three of just idol music would be:
Seventeen's An Ode
Wonder Girls' Reboot
wow, that's a good amount more than i thought, I feel like the dream concert and subsequent 127 ones probably will generate more than the superm concert
i wonder which profit sharing structure these concerts fall under for the artists, there's no way SM is going to give them the 20/80 overseas touring cut lol
either way they're all making a pretty penny for these things, no wonder SM is going to try to milk the TVXQ one. I'm surprised they havent announced an EXO or Red Velvet one
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So I saw some noise on twitter about NCT Jaemin using the korean equivalent of "retarded" to describe Haechan and now international fans are demanding him apologize/SM say something lol
It seems to be getting mild traction in Korea on Nate but the comments all seem rather mild, ofc its the i-fans who don't understand korean culture making a big fuss
I-fans are giving instructions on how to email SM so they can "educate" them on how this is an ableist slur and it's not acceptable….meanwhile Korea is kind of just seeing this as a swearing controversy/not taking it super seriously
yeah the tweet i linked is the dream translator who went on break, it's mainly her tweet that is garnering traction internationally.
the word he used in korea is a pretty common word that people use day to day, I'm korean (although my korean is god awful because raised in the US kek) and i've definitely heard my cousins use it when I went home, it seems pretty on brand for a 19/20 year old to say, especially since it's a pretty common word in gaming circles
He probably shouldn't have said it on live radio though, but jaemin isn't exactly known for his intelligence…
Which youtuber are you talking about anon?
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yeah she got posted here before and the pic was honestly scary. (pic related)
I hope shes keeping her health under control. Shes pretty young, I think shes a 2000s liner
i mean no notable examples stand out to me, but if you just watch him on shows and stuff you can tell he's very much a "top of the bell curve" kind of guy, maybe not just completely stupid like lucas, but definitely not super intelligent either
i do remember some interview where he said his mom told him to take the SM audition he was offered because he wasn't good at school, so there's that…
yup, the sjw twitter is now derailing this into a bullying thing as well, saying nct dream probably bullies haechan behind the scenes etc. as if he isn't the one member who dishes it out the most lmfao
either way the article's already fallen off nate's trending so i highly doubt it'll turn into a controversy in korea, the sjw can froth at the mouth here but once their oppa posts a cute selfie all will be forgiven
honestly i hate how i-fans always try to insert their thoughts into stuff like this and make things worse….what he said is totally something a 20-something would say to his friends, i'm sure they've said worse. his only problem was forgetting the camera was on, but it could easily have been edited out so it seems SM's editing team didn't think much of it either
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Wendy and Zico apparently are collaborating on a song? I'm happy to see Wendy's recovered enough to start returning to work, but not going to lie I'm disappointed people are still working with homophobic, rapist-defending Zico…gross
There's so many other rapper and producers out there that these singers can work with, and they keep choosing Zico because it's trendy and it makes me side eye them pretty hard
Apparently the song is for the trainwreck of a drama "The King". I don't know if anyone's watched it, but it's so bad LOL
come on man…that's fucked up to say, she literally just recovered from a really nasty injury and you're wishing more harm on her because she's collaborating with someone you don't like?
i'm the original op who posted the wendy zico news and I'm not super excited about the collab, but i'd never wish for her to get injured again over something like that
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agreed…im sure chungha doesnt have full creative control over her stuff, but her most recent mv with the male heeled dancers just feels like pandering/disingenuous especially after she's collaborated with zico
if she's trying to keep up this "woke queen" image, she really shouldn't be associating with a guy who's connected with convicted rapists and literally tried to out and make fun of his own bandmate on live tv
i mentioned this in a previous thread, but here is the video (starts around 4:50)
basically he mentions that another member confessed to him, and then makes fun of him saying "do you really love me as a man" and literally mentioning "coming out" while all the other members laugh and the guy he's talking to looks visibly uncomfortable, until another member who looks disgusted steps in and changes the subject
it's pretty telling honestly, and they probably weren't joking around based on how direct he was and how uncomfortable the other guy got
this was honestly enough for me to never want to listen to his music again, he is such a POS and i'm surprised people haven't cancelled him yet
The kpop fandom is a master at cancelling idols but they never do it to the ones who really should
be cancelled. Disappointed but not surprised.
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Suho enlists today - and of course Korean fans edit Chen out lol
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nope not natural (pic related). she looks too muscly with not enough fat now. she’ll definitely start getting fillers soon and look like an egg. >>88665
it’s honestly not even knet behavior. it’s delusional exols who thought they had a chance with him. from what i’ve seen outside of exols most people don’t really care. and to think that most exols are in their 20s… so childish and cringey.
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being skinny only looks good on korean girls(ban evading anachan)
i saw news about that too, stans are so stupid. if he actually has a family history of mental slowness/disabilities it just makes everything way worse
this started internationally but it seems its getting bad in SK, SM is having a nightmare with this Dream comeback
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we love a woke king
this is so funny to me, it feels like the stylist just pulled trendy sjw buzzwords and just pinned it to his shirt without any thought for how it would look just to get "woke brownie points"
bts stylists truly are a different league kek
Lmao I just checked and ratmys are really already trying to do damage control>delete>he doesn't know what radical feminism means, otherwise he obviously wouldn't have worn it, he would never exclude anybody, he loves trans womenz and sex workers!>jimin would beat you terfs!
Others say that radfems being trans exlusionary is only a white thing, so him wearing it as a korean person is actually good. Because of course little Jiminnie will be always given the benefit of the doubt.
How can you be so sure that you know his views? The average korean man is anti gay and anti trans and the average korean radfem is a terf, so…
Now it's up to sjw fakebois and kpoppies to get "jimin terf" trending kek
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oh jeez, i wonder what it's like to be a rabid ratmy spending every day frantically typing the same words into twitter/google over and over again to clear searches for someone who won't even look at you twice
honestly i dont get why these idols just stick to singing and dancing, they make enough money just looking pretty, i dont get the obsession with seeming woke and getting into controversies because they all have a middle school education and dont understand what they're getting themselves into
it's literally because even RM has the english capabilities of a middle schooler at best, not to mention none of them finished HS let alone went to college, so their view of "wokeness" is whatever they see at face value on twitter etc
im sure jimin was patting himself on the back thinking like "wow my fat ratmy international fans are going to love this feminism is super hot rn" without even considering the implications of plastering something like this on himself
ofc im sure rabid sjw fans were waiting to jump down his throat for something like this, but he literally gave them rope to hang him with. like i said, i dont get why these guys dont just shut the hell up and not give fans fuel to burn them with
>>88611>r* ableist slur
Westerns are so fucking embarrassing. Who cares if he said the word retarded or something similar to it. >>88638
Why the hell is Zico not in prison though? that's disgusting
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Hey remember when men burnt Irene photographs because she read a feminist book? When Suzy got heat when she supported a feminist movie? When Naeun had to delete a photo, because her phone case had 'Girls Can Do Anything' on it? I await the general public's witch hunt of Jimin.
(Seriously though the fact that no celebrity in SK can outright say they're a feminist is sickening)
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honestly fans are trying to bury it and its baffling because they're just making it worse, when i watched the video i literally heard "retard" instead of "very cool" which is what they're trying to say he said, the subs even use the word "dumb"…
kfans are trying to pretend its a super easy mispronunciation but anyone who natively speaks korean knows it wasn't. i'm half korean, and even though my korean is the level of a fucking elementary school student I knew it wasn't a mispronunciation, the guy doesn't have a speech impediment
a comparison to this would be saying like….fork instead of pork. it's not a mistake a native speaker would make, if chenle did it i would be more inclined to say it was actually a mistake, not to mention this is a super common slang word that teenagers use nowadays. (funny enough, an actual mispronounciation would be jisung in the same video saying "jira" which sounds like "jiral" which means bullshit–that's more like saying fuck when you meant fork)
i dont get why ifans are blowing it up to such a degree, korean native fans literally did not care, but now it's been blown so out of proportion it's actually a problem now
either way the guy should just own up and apologize, the fans that matter really dont care at all anyways
yup, it's just stupid because he probably wore the shirt expecting tons of wokeboy brownie points and is getting skewered because he's stupid
he didn't do anything wrong, it's just disingenuous and funny how he brought this onto himself because he doesn't have a brain
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we love a woke group
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NTA but I found this thread about the Jaemin Youtuber thing. Apparently, he kept on saying the catchphrase of this Youtuber involved in molka stuff. You can find vids in this thread and a summary of the entire thing. There are a bunch of dudes saying that it's been all debunked and are linking another thread but others are saying that it doesn't really explain the whole catchphrase thing. Source: https://twitter.com/meiqifleur/status/1260758985684082693
I also saw a screenshot about Jaemin allegedly joking about Chenle "coming out" when he took his cap off but I haven't checked for an actual video or anything.
i scanned the thread, my korean isnt great (its actually fucking awful) and some of it does seem shady
him saying "hello" in the same tone as the youtuber is a bit of a stretch, since he literally always talks like that but the kimochi bit is a little more side-eye worthy, especially if he actually was the person who wrote it
for context, kimochii is sometime that's pretty prevalent in hentai and it means "feels good" in its core but it's definitely not something a normal korean person would say, it is very popular among the edgy alt right streamer/bj community and definitely has pervy/misogynistic undertones to it. it isn't a word a normal korean person would pick up unless they watch a ton of porn (which is entirely possible, but why are you fucking writing it on a table) or watch the streamers (again, why are you writing it on a table)??
basically it all boils down to jaemin not having a brain and being a stupid teenager with his stupid friends on tv
im a big fan of dream, but my god these kids have been making me cringe a lot recently
come on, i'm sure SM didn't choose him to be an idol because of his strong moral compass lol
sjw can scream and cry all day about how their oppas need to be woke but will still support them because they're pretty and they "will change!"
kpop companies will never do what ifans want and "educate their employees" because they know the bulk of fans don't actually care and there's no money to be made from doing so
i dont think either of those anons were defending jimin LOL
BTS is super into portraying the "woke image" and their ratmy fanbase always tries to push it as well, but like you said remain quiet when the rapline obviously is close to problematic
people like their producer SupremeBoi who's been repeatedly shown as a misogynistic rapist-defending POS
I honestly don't get why fans insist on putting their idols on some "woke/social justice" pedestal when they're just dancing entertaiment monkeys like the rest of the entertainment industry
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man i remember when BTS gave some stupid speech at a UN seminar and ratmy's were sperging about how RM should run for president after he's done with BTS
like these people are so delusional that they think an idol who doesn't even have a hs background should be giving input on world issues and running a country because he read a canned speech at some event
Fucking based kek trigger
all the tranny loving whores I stan
you do get new people in here you know. Not everyone has read all of the threads.
There are many other kpop idols that are way hotter so it's confusing how bts has gotten so big. They're all average to ugly.
i think the jungkook thing they posted yesterday was a mistake, they probably didnt realize that jk was stupid enough to draw his gf/ex gf's stuff on tv
the jimin thing was definitely an attempt at seeming woke, a stylist probably dressed them in those awful outfits and thought "wow theyre gonna seem so intelligent and worldly bc feminism"
either way BH needs to hire new PR people because this aint it
singing is and always has been an afterthought for BTS. nobody's main skill is singing. rat and suga rap, j-hope and jimin are there for dancing, v and jin are there to be 'visuals', and jungkook is meant to be a jack of all trades so he's centre. that's why they don't really have a star vocalist. it got forgotten since they were going to be a 'hip hop' group anyway.
try and change my mind, you won't manage it
do people actually think jimin is a fan of like germaine greer based off of this>>88777
imo his voice was not that bad but years of being overworked has taken its toll on him hence why any live vocal performance of his sounds like that. idk why he insists on doing those high notes in concerts all the time if he's so insecure though. he clearly doesn't lack self awareness
Yet this is a valid
criticism due to the fact how lauded his vocal 'capabilities' are by ratmys.
Thread got invaded by twitter stans. Again. Someone do somthing.
Honestly, same. I don't understand. >>88743
Does anyone know of the other supposedly racist/homophobic things Jeno and Jaemin are supposed to have said? I always had a feeling that Dream was going to be the ""problematic
"" NCT group given that they all debuted as teenagers, so I'm not really surprised this happened. As soon as I saw a video of them making fun of Jaemin and Haechan for being tanned, I pretty much knew it was going to be them.
On a side note, I really haven't seen NCT 127 make any of those sorts of jokes (minus Taeyong when he was 12 I guess) and I wonder if it's because SM is really trying to push them internationally so they have to be more "woke." I haven't really seen 127 do or say anything as edgy as Dream, but maybe they have said shit and I just haven't seen it yet.
i think jeno got some flack for possibly being a xenophobe, i can't find the video anymore but he got visibly annoyed at chenle trying to read a script in korean when it's obviously not his mother tongue
maybe calling him a xenophobe is going a bit far, but it definitely wasn't a good look especially on camera
ofc instead of saying anything SM just cut that part out of the video and reuploaded it, which is what I assume they'll do with jaemin's "scandal"
like you said, these kids all debuted super young so its not surprising they're all a bit immature and will likely have a slew of attitude scandals because they're stuck in a teenager mindset and are being filmed all the time
they're all problematic
I find rm insufferable.
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god this is so dumb. kyungsoo wore a similar shirt before. its clearly some brand that decided to use probably popular words from the internet i doubt they give a shit about these topics
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i mean if you've ever downloaded the Snow app the default filter already lightens skin and smooths pores a ton, it's definitely a part of their culture to pretend they're lighter than they are
not to mention fansites deliberately will wash out idol skin when they upload pictures, most asians are not that pale.
definitely, the app default will lighten skin and blur wrinkles and pores, and slightly enlarge eyes.
the cartoon filters make things even more exaggerated and will shorten chins, plump cheeks etc so that's why 28 year olds look like they're 18
i mean his competition for main vocal isn't very big, considering jhope/rm/suga/jin literally can barely hold a note, and jimin/v are marginal singers
honestly im still baffled to how they got so big…i still stand by the idea that if BAP didn't have such shit management they would've taken the BTS spot.
BTS's success primarily came from luck and timing, and their biggest competitor at the time was EXO and BAP
I agree with you, look at how he even treat his teammates. He crosses boundaries with them so many times and you can tell they want to slap the shit out of him, if they weren't in public.
also hate it when ratmies scream at his questionable actions "omg such a slytherin"
me too, i feel like he has a nice speaking voice, and if he learned to be less breathy and sing with his natural register instead of forcing the indiegirl rasp he wouldn't sound as grating as he does>>88819
if anything it's also me looking at BAP through rose tinted glasses, but I feel BYG did come up with actual "woke" lyrics like BTS is trying to do (or as woke as an idol group can get) and their two main vocalists actually could sing and had good voices, and they had that underdog vibe that BTS rode the wave on for so long
EXO is also good, but they got hit with so many member leaving scandals that I feel they lost the steam they were gaining too many times, BTS truly just got super lucky and made it big
lmfao, wasn't he born in 1992? I thought he had to enlist this year. I would say Suga would go as well, he's almost the same age as Jin and they're at the end of the approved delay time
I still remember when ratmys were trying to say BTS should get special exemptions because they brought so much cultural influence to the world…like come on
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supremeboi is a bighit producer who works pretty often with BTS, he apparently was supposed to be a part of the original BTS lineup when they were going more towards a rap route and not the traditional idol route. he's close friends with suga and RM as well as jhope, despite fans trying to deny that he is
because he's written lyrics about rape fantasies (roll by iron) and also is a friend and supporter of the rapper iron, who was convicted of sexually assaulting and beating his then girlfriend.
i believe he also slutshamed some model publicly, overall just a gross skeevy dude who's still somehow employed by BH and close friends with the BTS crew
as they say, birds of a feather….for how "woke" BTS tries to portray themselves, associating and working closely with a misogynistic rape-apologist is not the way to go about it
not to mention jaw shaves and cheek filler >>88826
lmao so much cultural influence but most people think behind the scenes and back to school when they see bts >>88834
then leave lmao. mods will probably get sick of kpop threads clogging /m/ and ban them anyways
I'm so ready for some BTS members to enlist. Hopefully that will spell the beginning of the end for them and their faces will gradually vanish from my social media timelines. Also, I'm interested to see how their brainwashed followers react to it.
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Not sure if these count but I did see this thread: https://twitter.com/eyebrowgel/status/1261042143742705664
Some of them seem like a reach but I guess it counts.
For 127, Jungwoo seems to be involved with youtuber stuff like Jaemin too. Only thing I saw was this thread claiming to debunk it but you can probably find more evidence if you lurk some more: https://twitter.com/x1seunghun/status/1246229052299644934
i honestly dont think styling/hairstyle issues should be placed heavily on the artist, since their physical hairstyles etc are determined by the company
however, the multiple "dark skin" jokes are not cute…asia and korea in particular already has a huge issue with whitewashing/putting pale skin on a pedestal, and idols using darker skin as a negative/teasing point really doesn't make the situation better
the thing is these idols literally dont give a shit, they know their rabid fanbase will support them through pretty much everything except a dating scandal, so they never feel a desire to educate themselves or change.
look at all the idols who've actually been "cancelled" by their fans–chen and sungmin are the only two who have rabid fangirls truly petitioning for them to leave the group, etc while actual shitheads like yoochun and kim hyun joong still can hold fanmeets and stuff despite raping and beating women
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>>88868>"he said kazoku not gajoku!"
Lol why would Jungwoo randomly speak japanese in a bts for a korean mv? What a load of bull
Also why would they even care about stuff that is mostly western sensitivities, most of these guys don't even speak english, their main market is east asia which genuinely also doesn't give a flying fuck about all this stuff.
Honestly all of this just speaks volumes of western fan's entitlement.
lmfao thats the similar excuse people were using for jaemin's issue, saying it was a mispronounciation/misinterpretation when any person who even speaks a lick of korean knows it wasn't
i mean even if you watch the video, they're very different words, it's not like he didn't enunciate the last part correctly or something, it's a completely different sound
meanwhile everyone who's cancelling him and also trying to cover for him are just two sides of the international fan cesspool…neither of which really understands the situation
korean fans literally dont give two shits and i doubt SM does either
not to mention fans are trying to cancel dream over this while also trending #protecttaeyong as if he hasn't been proved to be a bully and likely also said this word in a hurtful way to victims
international/western sjw fans are such a joke
I knew he worked closely with both Suga and Ratmon, but I didnt know he was actually employed by Bighit? He did the cypher song was them and that's all I knew from him. It seems like Korea and idol industry is filled with extremely problematic
men who dont apologise for being shit towards women.
unless he left very recently, he still is with bighit. i believe he had a hand in writing dionysus off their newest album and a couple of other songs, and he definitely assisted heavily with production on the back end
if you google any of their albums and look at the writing credits, he's in at least 1/3 of them
aside from taeyong i don't recall any of the 127 members being problematic
except for a few instances, like jaehyun mouthing the n word or a few of them laughing at yuta's story of being hit by his dad as a child. they're all pretty boring imo and they come across as fake (their personalities, their "friendships," etc). wayv seem to be the only unit that genuinely enjoys each other's company but the way they insult and make fun of each other makes me believe they're just all mean like that (sans a few members…)
the korean callout is a very small minority, the general korean population does not care at all
the post on nate hit top 10 for maybe 30 minutes, the very vocal minority echoing international sjw sentiment are primarily anti-fan accounts and sensitive sjw fans
im not defending him, he's a fucking idiot for not watching his mouth knowing that he's being filmed, but its getting heavily exaggerated
it's just baffling to see all these people freaking out and cancelling him over a very westernized opinion (right or wrong) on how to treat ableism, not to mention a lot of these fans also support people like taeyong who are arguably more problematic
like these stans need to make up their mind, either cancel everyone for being idiots who can't watch their mouths and are probably little shits behind the scenes, but dont cherry pick and become holier-than-thou over certain things and pretend others didn't happen
my entire tl is clogged with people cancelling this band, and a bunch of them have taeyong profile pictures like….??? what??
it's definitely a combination of fame getting to their heads, and probably more fans watching their moves and looking for stuff to point out
as sad as it sounds, the less favored members probably don't even have fans or antifans that give a shit about what they do, so they usually slide under the radar
like taeil and yuta's behavior with winwin was honestly fucking weird as hell and winwin was very visibly uncomfortable but barely anyone pointed it out because no one cares about them
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i think it was just over the top fanservice, but you could tell winwin definitely did not enjoy being touched and grabbed at. i honestly think the way 127 treated winwin as a whole was weird, they literally babied him to the max and almost treated him as a doll instead of an adult human
chinese culture is different than korean culture, it's definitely not as normal for dudes to be handsy with each other
yuta and taeil were the worst with grabbing at him etc., whether it was directed by SM or just came because they liked him, it still became very over the top because winwin had voiced several times he didn't like it. you can see a bit of this in the nct life osaka episode 7, where taeil and winwin are in the ferris wheel and taeil asks if winwin is still angry at him over taeil touching/bothering winwin off camera, and winwin directly says "i'd like you more if you stopped doing that to me"
here's a tweet showing a clip of taeil literally trying to kiss winwin in the background while winwin is furiously trying to push him off, it doesn't even look like play fighting anymore, winwin legitimately looks like he's fighting to get taeil off himhttps://mobile.twitter.com/winwinspics/status/1008299387401981952
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sorry, had to split up the yuta one since i wanted to post another picture but the yuta stuff feels more fanservice-y and less truly weird af
the one that stands out the most to me is yuta saying he likes to imagine female characters in anime as winwin…it seems kinda fanservice/gaybaity to me but it's still very weird and winwin kind of just stonefaces the entire interaction
basically if you watch a lot of the videos when winwin was still in 127, you can tell he didn't like getting treated like a fanservice doll
i really like him in wayv, he actually has a personality outside of the gaybait uwu baby and genuinely seems to enjoy being around his members, which is why im totally ok with him never rejoining 127
i think fanservice usually is harmless and idols play it up because it makes money, but when someone is visibly uncomfortable with it its just really weird and gross to watch
I mean if they are that desperate to do fanservice, do it with someone who is actually comfortable with it. Members like Johnny would eat that shit up. He likes the attention that he gets, negative or positive.
The whole situation with Winwin really made me feel bad for him. He seems like a lowkey guy, but they kept on using him for fanservice. Yikes.
Sorry but no. Winwin gets treated like an autistic toddler because he acts like one. He's weird looking, incredibly unfunny, his korean is pretty much non-existent, he can neither sing or dance well, he has zero lines for a reason, the least he can do is endure that. What else would he bring to the table? Yuta is doing him a favor, otherwise he wouldn't get any screentime at all. Plus everybody knows how common fanservice in kpop is, he signed up for that.
Winwin fans are so weird, they love him because he's a "victim
". If he suddenly acted normally and got more lines, they'd probably drop him because they'd be jobless since they'd no longer have anything to whine about lol
Then he either needs to quit or work extremely hard on improving himself (which he doesn't) so that he has other things to offer. You can't expect to get paid for doing nothing.
Stop acting as if he's getting raped, the others only try to be funny and to include him. All kpop groups do that. This massive overreaction (both yours and his) is the same situation with Jk grabbing Jaehyun's butt and NCT hags immediately screaming uwu he sexually assaulted our poor adult baby. It's literally not that deep bro
the yuta fanservice stuff is typical fanservice and i agree fans probably victimized it a bit far, but you have to agree taeil probably took it a bit too far considering winwin's been shown on camera literally saying "i don't like it please stop", not to mention other members literally calling out the fact that they fought off camera over it
i think if anything taeil just got too into it trying to get some camera time, fanservice aside a grown man should understand how to respect someone's private space lol
why do people think he has a dui? when he got into the accident, it was widely reported that he did take an alcohol blood test and he was not drunk. plus it was a freaking fender bender and he was going like 10 mph. tons of young people get into an accident like that at some point, it basically comes from inexperience. jk gets a gf, tattoos and goes clubbing and hes suddenly problematic
, it's genuinely the same logic crazy kfans use
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Poor Winwin, getting abused by his roommates joking around when he only wants to be on his phone 24/7, he totally should sue them for all the trauma they caused him…
you are fucking retards and need to hide your powerlevel for your flop group nct. They would have received the same reaction wherever they were 2nd gen or with mostly k-fans.
They're idols which means that they are expected by the general public to behave like they are innocent and perfect. Even exo who is 2nd gen a had a retard scandal in the past so this isnt a sjw scandal.
If your faves cant handle being idols then they should quit because they are known for their scandals in korea.
but its more so ifans making a huge fuss over this shit while also being the same group defending their bully king taeyong and trending #protecttaeyong hashtags
i think theyre all fucking idiots and lets not lie, a lot of us follow groups like nct bc theyre a bunch of messy nepotist kids and the drama is fun to watch
you can think an idol is stupid and think they deserve shit, and also think the sjw community is overly sensitive and stupid af at the same time, it's not exclusive
at the end of the day these oppas can pretend theyre sad and regretful on camera but we all know they dont give a fuck once the cameras are off
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since this thread is getting kind of churned by nct/bts drama, did anyone see bp stans rented trucks to part in front of YG to protest the fact that BP hasn't gotten a comeback?
yeah, i think she recently said she tore a ligament so i feel like their comeback will probably be delayed since she's apparently in a cast and i cant see her practicing with an injury like that
if it was in the middle of promotions they could just plop her in a chair, but in preparation work they definitely cant just let her sit around and exclude her from the choreo
i mean it could be a DUI, or distracted driving, falling asleep, or he's just stupid
either way he did get into an accident, and if it was truly a DUI or him being dumb and texting, he deserves to get dragged for it.
if it honestly was just inexperienced driving or sheer stupidity, i feel like it's not as big of a deal because he is a newer driver, and how many of us haven't hit a curb or backed into a tree/rear ended someone while learning to drive?
we'll probably never know, but if it truly was a DUI there's no way he's not going to get into another one. Kangin was caught DUI-ing at least twice, people who drink and drive don't just do it once and never again
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has anyone seen the baekhyun album teasers? people are saying SM changed graphic designers and the quality shows…
i can see what they were trying to go for with this cover but it feels so "graphic design is my passion"
not to mention the typo at the bottom of "2rd mini album", do people at SM not do a quick spell check before they send things out lol
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sm coex artium is closing because of profit loss. they are construction another building, which will probably house the new version of coex artium, but it’s on the opposite side of the country and no where near completion. sm is already losing a lot of money, so at this point debuting smngg with the same budget as itzy will make them go bankrupt. >>88978
you can tell which albums were planned before the old designer left and which weren’t by the insane drop of quality and the amount of repetition. sm is using this minimalist excuse for how shitty it looks which is funny because minimalism doesn’t mean let’s use the same 3 fonts we got for free.
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Kpop idols need to embrace the thicc trend
They’re some like seulgi who do
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Lil bit offtopic, but what always buffles me is some idols' nastiness at fansigns: they're constantly picking their ears, their noses, the gunk in the corner of their eyes (and they aren't even embarassed about it) and then they touch fan's stuff to sign and hold their hands. Girl, ew. JK plucks his facial fur as well and armies in the comment section always find it endearing. I can't stand it.
this feels a bit nitpicky, i get if it was a full blown picture of the dude knuckle deep digging for gold, but how many of us day to day don't wipe eye crust or absentmindedly pick at our face when we're talking to someone?
i think if he was straight up pulling out huge boogers or balls of earwax at a fansign i would be disgusted, but the gif you posted seems like a normal person thing to do especially when you're just staring into space
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It doesn't have to be a knuckle deep digging, but it still is gross. Especially when they look at the gold they've found in there.
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same anon as >89000, i was just pointing out how the jk gif wasnt that gross because people scratch at their face all the time
the chen gif and this picture though…considerably more gross because most adults know to either pick their nose discreetly with a tissue or just to go to the bathroom and clean it out
lucas is actually like half a knuckle deep here though and its funny how he's staring directly into a camera while doing so
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Maybe if they focused more on groups that aren't nct…
The loss yg has insane. For sm it's the first year they started losing but for yg it's been that way since quite a while already and yet everything their artists do is travel and shop at chanel all year round.
How does that work, sm sales are 145 billion won, yg 53 billion and jyp only 34 billion, yet the latters profit is so high?
the rumor is that SM's new building is in changdong and isn't going to be complete until around 2024, so what are they going to do in the meantime? were the profits in the coex atrium so bad that they're just going to write off any revenue from that area because it wasn't worth the rent
for reference changwon is ~3 hours by car from seoul, so it's like moving something from san francisco to central california, it's definitely not as populated of an area so rent is probably dirt cheap
probably not, this is also mina's first full promotional cycle since her hiatus, if anything that would drive hype, unless she's decided she still needs time off
plus there really isnt any big gg comeback planned for the same time, so i would assume twice would probably do well
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Wow who would've ever thought that could happen after so many years
Surprisingly atm Lana is ranking at 26 and that half black girl at 44 (out of 101), I kind of expected they'd both do worse
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This looks very first week of art school/babby's first attempt at making an edgy design. It's incredibly amateurish for a SM album cover.>>88994
Have any anons visited COEX artium or the kpop company franchises in general (restaurants, museums, etc.)? Please share your experience if you have.>>88998
I'm not shocked. More than a few Koreans don't wash their hands after the bathroom (not racebait, mods). That isn't limited to low class, mangy looking people either; while out to eat in Korea, I'd see perfectly put together, beautiful women walk out of stalls and go straight back to eating. I've heard from guys that some Korean dudes do the same after using the urinal, yikes.
when I visited seoul last year I went to the Jyp cafe and ryujin was there! there's a pic floating around somewhere that my friend took of here, she's really short irl I thought we were the same height.
also I went to the bight building (me and my friend were having a koreaboo field day dont judge us) and there's sooooooooo much sticky notes plastered on their walls outside, im guessing angry karmys.
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But even the least popular contestants in chinese shows always get several million votes. I highly doubt that some western kpop fans wanting a black girl to win would be enough for that.>>89035
The 3 of them are judges on the chinese version of produce 101 (with fx Victoria). Now only Lay is missing lol
I never heard of Feifei before your post since I don't watch these kinds of survival shows, but I just looked into her and the whole situation is just unfortunate. If it's not the Chinese viewers calling her a disgusting n*
er, you have the international viewers overcompensating by spamming her videos and articles with comments like (literally) "OMG MELANIN QUEEN SHE'S AN ABSOLUTE ANGEL I LOVE HER SO MUCH BLASIANS ARE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE IN THE WORLD SHE DESERVES TO WIN UNLIKE THOSE PLAIN CHINESE" when they don't know anything about her, just the fact she's half black. Either way, it seems like people are just reducing her to her race.
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The kpoppies are using her as their token melanin kween to shit on Lana. They don't actually give a crap about voting for Feifei as long as they can use her as ammo against Lana. Honestly I love how much Lana triggers
theres two rumors, one in changdong with no construction (so 2024), the other is the current SM space in changwon that will likely be their temp space until changdong is complete
this is from me browsing naver and crosschecking with translation sites so take with a grain of salt
>>89052> They don't actually give a crap about voting for Feifei as long as they can use her as ammo against Lana.
This is honestly true. I'll go one further than that most of them had no interest in the show whatsoever and only decided to watch it to shit on Lana and pretend that she's invading their
space again. Calling her colonizer and telling her to kill herself (the usual hits) all while once again proving that they need remedial geography and getting into fights with Chinese people who like her.
So they need Feifei to be their melanin avenger and take down the evil white girl Lana while also providing a self insert for their fug asses. Completely transparent.
oh jeez i havent seen the gajoku video, only read about it but it's pretty damning considering he also does the hand motion
also not a good look considering the other two laughed and definitely knew what he was talking about
BK is very well known for being a POS and his fanbase is very much known for being incel-y so this is not a good look
im surprised the korean media hasn't picked up on this yet, the jaemin thing got swept under the rug but if this jungwoo video starts trending it will spark a wildfire
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posted the english translation but does anyone know what Hyolyn is apologizing for? She posted this in her fancafe this morning, but I can't find anything about it?
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Likely because her fanbase is becoming (rightfully) fed up with her trying to sustain her career off of repetitive covers and pretending to be an entertaining Youtuber. Pic related, taken from her most recent stream.
Not gonna lie, glad to see her mean girl persona catch up to her.
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holy shit, SM's hurt for money has started a new thing
apparently for the low low price of $3,000 you can have a private video call with your favorite member, i believe actually 1-on-1
i haven't looked into additional details and don't know if this is available outside of korea (bc how would they communicate) but this is a new level of delulu feeding
edit: i did some more research and it seems it's supposed to be a raffle, with tickets costing $15usd each and 150 people being chosen, 2 min each for the member of choice if raffled
not sure where the $3k is from, i can't find anything additional on that yet but i'll leave it up for now because it's not totally outlandish for SM to try to pull something like that
I saw the opposite…? Comments with 1000s of likes wondering why kpop is so successful when this show and the trainees are miles better in every aspect? Not even the most delusional kboo could deny that.
Kind of funny that even China manages to be more progressive than the kpop industry. At first I thought putting an androgynous girls as the center is only woke pandering, but the thing is that the chinese public doesn't like this at all. So they're trying to convey an "empowering" message despite this hurting their ratings and thus also profit. Lisa sometimes ruins it for me like come on girl you're only in your early 20s and have how many songs, 5? What gives her the right to talk down on others so much? But Kun and the chinese mentors and of course the girls are so nice, they really make up for it.>>89068
After the rankings were revealed some twitterfags had a moment of self awareness and realized they actually need to vote for her instead of only hyping her up (but it wouldn't make a difference anyway, since you have no chance without chinese voters support)
Ironically the girls seem to get along well, Feifei is helping out Lana and other foreign girls who don't speak chinese that well.
The two of them seem to take completely different approaches in trying to succeed: Lana blends in super well, most chinese likely assume she's half, the other girls call her pretty, Luhan likes her dance, but in the end I doubt that it will be enough. Feifei stands out a lot, no just because of her hair but also the way she dresses. Some young chinese people are open minded and like that but she also got a lot of hate on Weibo.
I noticed that during those shows ranks rarely change, nobody suddenly climbs up significally. There are these two thai girls who got immediately super popular and now they take up 95% of the screentime, so others don't even really have the chance to prove themselves. They might be safe for a couple more episodes but will never make it into the final lineup.
i assume there isnt an album limit for either of them, so theres definitely going to be fans mass buying in order to up their chances of getting a spot
if you look at it that way maybe 3k is a steal if its "guaranteed"
i also saw some clips of the dream fansigns since they're happening now and the fans are all way old..imagine being in your late twenties and paying hundreds if not maybe thousands to talk to a 19 year old for 2 minutes
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true, ive heard rumors on weibo that the owner of renjunbar is in her mid to late thirties…and she calls him baby in fansigns when she sees him, it's so gross
imagine being almost double the age of the boy you're fangirling over, he definitely thinks she's gross but puts up with it because they drive SO many sales especially in china
attached is post from the boom era where they gave him a receipt showing that they bought over 30,000 albums. granted it's a fansite of a large group of people, but that is still a shitton of fucking albums
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they dont, especially if you look at press pics from airports and such. a lot of the time its just edited out of official content if its too visible. some definitely get it lasered off, as the other anon said, but most just shave and call it a day.
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that's why he's hot anon.
pic is by him btw
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Apparently someone posted a song on spotify using Chanyeol's name. These are the lyrics to that song. ngl, pretty creepy af.
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exactly, i saw some nctfans trying to justify it saying he's happy he's with his "family", but that doesn't explain why jeno and jaemin would start laughing. the evidence is damning but fans will cover anything up for their oppas
on another note, if you go to the same twitter account and read the taeyong thread he uses the same r-word slur but fans are pretending it didnt happen (im surprised nctfags havent brigaded the account and mass reported it yet)
the infighting between nctfans is one of the biggest reasons as to why they'll never be super successful…doesnt help that two thirds of them have zero talent and are assholes
Can't speak for other nctfans, but I don't see the situations as equivalent because I feel like there's a difference between saying 'retard' when you're in middle school and saying it when you're 20 years old. Not that I don't think Taeyong should be held accountable for the bullying, but I don't think what you say in middle school can really reflect what kind of person you are 10+ years later. Jaemin's situation is more 'problematic
' because he said it as an adult and finds it funny now. Though to be honest, I didn't expect much from Jaemin in the first place so this wasn't really a shock to me kek.
Either way, I think it's stupid for fans to acknowledge it didn't happen. They want to retain their moral superiority while still being able to stan their favorite asian twink, instead of either just accepting that they like someone who is 'problematic
' or moving on and finding a different person/interest to obsess over (neither of which is that hard in the first place). It must be exhausting to constantly justify that shit to yourself.
i mean taeyong obviously said this stuff maliciously, so even as a middle schooler being a shithead bully isnt a good look
all of these idols literally started training in elementary school so their development is definitely stunted, so them finding slurs and weird edgy misogynistic youtubers funny is very much on brand for someone who literally hasn't gone to school since he was 12
its just funny how nctfags will spam emails trying to get SM to "educate" their idols about using slurs, but also send emails uwuing about how taeyong needs to be protected, like just fucking align on either your oppas are all shit or your oppas all need to be bubble wrapped and protected, its ridiculous
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if you're talking about min hee jin, she left late 2018 and actually joined big hit last year as their head of branding
the quality of sm designs has nosedived ever since she left, pink tape was honestly iconic, and now all they put out are neon "minimalist" covers with the same free fonts
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half of the photobook are just solid color pages and the photos are just pictures of baekhyun pouting from six different angles
the fans can praise the "minimalism!!" and "art!!" all they want but it's just lazy…like what the fuck are those stickers, they remind me of those sheets you can get at the dollar store that are 0.99 for 400 of them
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with how late in 2019 she joined, i wouldn't be surprised if she didn't have much input into BTS's latest album which was released early this year because yikes…
we'll have to see what the new album they're supposedly releasing this fall looks like, i guess we can also see based off the TXT one that's supposed to come out soon
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(same anon posting the album pictures)
i'm baffled though by the design they insist on going with for nct/most solos recently, because they definitely have good designers in house who have variety and arent just using lazy minimalist excuses and shit font
chen's newest solo album had such a refreshing design and it still retains the minimalism, but i guess baekhyun and nct's concepts don't fit the clean spring look that chen's album had, so SM just copy pasted the shitty concept they use for everything else
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Speaking of shit album covers, rbw is repackaged Moonbyul's solo album and the cover is trash. It looks like someone's first attempt at making an artsy cover using photoshop.
I think he's good at other styles of humor too actually.
Like he was fucking hilarious in the second "Late Night Punch Punch Show" video they uploaded today
yup, i feel like theyre pretty well rounded and talented overall (except lucas, but he's attractive and well known so he brings fans to the fandom which is literally the point of a visual center)
i love how there is zero wayv comeback content despite them performing their new song at their concert
wayv is literally spending all of their free time promoting their dorm pets because their company literally cant be arsed to promote them lol
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laughing because it happened again today on vlive, but apparently tons of fans always ask jisung to "show his abs" or "pull down his zipper" and he always just responds with a handcuff gesture since he's still a minor in korea
at least the kid knows that the demographic of his fanbase is a bunch of hags trying to get a barely legal dude to show skin
Tbh I can't wait until one of the members inevitably fucks up. The amount of salt that would create given their privilege and how their fanbase mostly consists of armys.>>89142
If she had anything to do with the designs of TXT's second album, She's definitely lost her touch.
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is their fanbase mainly ARMYs? i thought they were pretty separate considering how often nctfags and ratmys get into it on twitter
the only thing i can see nct losing fans off of is a true dating scandal with pictures and stuff…they literally have several misogynistic members, a proved bully and scammer and fans still shield the fuck out of them. the only thing that possibly would get fans to start actually closing fansites and protesting would be if their oppa started dating a girl "after everything fans have done for them"
min hee jin kind of lost her touch at the end of her SM stint, so i'm not hopeful, but maybe a change in company might spark her creativity again because i loved her older stuff
>>89131>I feel like theyre absolutely terrible behind closed doors. Especially the dream members.
Besides Jaemin and Jeno what other dream members are terrible?
I mean Haechan is very narcissistic but that’s to be expected of somebody who’s been in the industry from such a young age.
Renjun, Jisung and Chenle seem okay and Mark is one of the few male idols who I think is a genuinely good guy.
im a dream fan and i agree, jaemin and jeno seem like the two that will eventually breed the most drama. haechan had some sasaeng scandals and does seem super narcissistic and is so obnoxious sometimes, but its probably a product of being thrust into training so young and keeping up a public persona.
honestly chenle seems the most grounded out of all of them which is funny considering hes from such a privileged background (the kid literally did not understand the concept of rent) but like there's so many clips of him offering to buy members things without a second thought and he seems rather quiet and thoughtful despite being also thrown into entertainment young, even younger than the rest of them since he was performing on china's got talent since he was 5, and his friendship with jisung actually seems genuine
i really dont know what to say about renjun lol, i follow dream but dont really find him that interesting, and like the anon said mark does seem to be one of the more genuine idols out there right now
im fully dislosing that im a casual dream fan and i like chenle the most so i may seem biased. i also really liked jaemin and jeno but honestly all the shit thats surfaced around them recently has definitely made me like them a little less
nothing as concrete as jaemin, but if you scroll up to >>89073
he's laughing at the joke jungwoo did, which he probably wouldn't understand if he also supported the problematic
he also had a minor issue when he was shown on film getting very annoyed at chenle for reading a korean script slowly, which was later edited out by SM. people were defending him saying that he was just trying to be funny, but either way that's kind of a rude thing to do to someone who's obviously trying to do something in a second language
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>no contribute but have a picture of JYP looking like a disgusting ahjussi at like age 6>>89154
Kek'd. That's great.
fucking kek, this picture is just hilarious to me for some reason
never thought i'd laugh at something nct related but here we are
is it just me or are there a shit ton of groups, especially ggs debuting this year? i dont even follow kpop actively but i keep hearing about these literally who companies who are planning to debut a group in 2020
same anon who posted the original handcuff pic, this link is even better because someone in the background adds siren noises
but honestly, its kind of funny and sad that people do this so often it's become a running meme with several compliations of the handcuff gesture https://mobile.twitter.com/ijn0423/status/1259427169509404673
Lol I was talking about txt here
It's honestly kinda funny how powerful a dating scandal can be. Imagine if one of them just pulls a Hyuna outta nowhere.>>89176
Oh god this picture is just so oddly creepy
Man has bad features.>>89180
I don't think there's that much of a difference. Too many groups debuting has been a problem for a while. 90% of nugus will have a run of 3 years or less
my take on what'll happen to the members when bts disbands:
BH will DEFINATELY make jimin go solo. hes really really popular in korea, and I can kinda see why, he has amazing stage presence and hes cute sometimes, but when bts disbands (which is coming very soon) I feel like sk is going to SHIT on him once he goes solo and they realise he can't sing. solo artists are always focused on their singing, if you're a solo artist that can't sing………
I would say the same for v but tbh his voice tone, idk what its called, is really nice and he sounds nice in slow, lowkey songs, which korea loves. as long as he doesn't try singing any high notes………..
unpopular opinion: I think j-hope will be really successful in korea if he goes solo. KID HAS STAGE PRESENCE. he can dance, rap and he holds a better note than jin jimin and v. hes never gotten into any scandals and hes getting really popular slowly with the gp because of his multiple charity donations (hes a millionaire but still) so yeah. he just has to start looking cute
jin: bh wont even try making him solo
suga: producer, hes sick of the idol life
rm: idk tbh, he defs wont be popular with the gp
jungkook: hes going to be REALLY successful. like embarrass the rest of the members successful. he could be Koreas next it boy as long as bh promote him well. the scandals just made him more interesting, hes gaining fans like crazy
Bts will flop if they even try going solo
I actually feel bad for them
The bubble is gonna POP and the reality check will be like a whiplash
you sound like a twitter ratmy the way you sound delusional
i feel like if anything, v would try to be an actor despite having zero acting skills, but as much as korea moans about that they literally dont give a shit at the end of the day and he'll keep getting deals
i agree with jk, he probably is the best "it boy" status in terms of solo potential, but he also has the biggest potential to blow up bc of a scandal
im laughing my ass off at this…apparently oh my girl's member is getting "cancelled" for being fatphobic and not gonna lie, it's definitely bordering on "uh oh" territory
just watch the video, because it's fucking hysterical despite it being kind of mean. for context, she was supposed to mime out shindong and did a spot on jobhttps://mobile.twitter.com/twipril/status/1261755750906580996
i don't care what sjw fans have to say, this was fucking phenomenal comedy and funny as fuck
Its too late for them to venture out and actually be successful.
They'll all go solo after enlistment and once they do they will be too old for it.
They wont be fresh and trendy, they'll go on their 8th year next, its far too late for a idol group.
Idols have a short shelf life.
Exo did one genius thing = they did solo projects after their third year.
D.o. went into acting since his 2nd year, Baekhyun did solo since 2013, Chen succeded when he almost hit 1 million Ul for his solo debut Xiumin went into musicals, Lay went to China and is a provincial ambassador, Chanyeol owns his own studio, Sehun is venturing into China and Kai will continue with his fashion career and in the long run get back into dancing (Like Rain)
Enough of the rant.>>89199
People are actually mad because a member called Jinhee left OMG due to Anorexia
Lol I thought it because they got into another cultural appropriation/racism controversy. Probably a mix of bothhttps://twitter.com/ybkiz/status/1261764768316248065
There's also another thread of cultural appropriation from 2016 in that thread
If you go to the youtube, SBS have also issued an apology. Thoughts?
Should be at around 21:29
ohhh boy…i posted the original "fatshaming" clip, i did not know about this, the shindong thing was funny but this is….not
this is definitely going to ruffle a lot of feathers internationally, korea won't care but this actually is the first time where i've seen a clip of "cultural appropriation/alleged racism" and went yikes
I've been getting a weird feeling from Jisung, I think it's because every time I've seen those scandalous videos of Jaemin, he's always laughing hysterically in the background. Seems like he's also a sexist prick but he's more discreet about it. I hate to come to that conclusion bc he's a kid but he and the others seem like ilbe users or something. >>89200
Lmfao these retards are forgetting that Shindong has been a proven sexist pig who has repeatedly criticized relatively gorgeous women's looks and normal weights in comparison while looking like being overweight and ugly. I guess this is what happens when kpop becomes overrun by brand new 4th gen fans.
Fucking yikes. Not once, but twice . It's 2020 and i really have a hard time believing koreans and kpop idols are this ignorant to other races and nationalities. They should just stick to singing and dancing. >>89210
Same. I actually cringed at the entire clip, especially when they went 'wait, do it again.'
if anything, i feel like jisung just has a super immature sense of humor, he literally joined the company in 5th grade so he didn't even finish elementary school, i could totally see him finding shit that the older guys say funny because he doesn't know any better, which isn't an excuse obviously
i can see the older ones being actual ilbe users, the jungwoo clip was so damning, especially with the hand motion and that's not something a regular person would just stumble upon
the way i see it, i judge idols based on how a normal person their age would act. i feel like there are very few people nowadays who can truthfully say they didn't call their friend a "retard" in college or swear/use slurs around their close group of friends, so i haven't really thought much of the jaemin r-word scandal
however, i feel like the general 20-something population don't watch alt-right youtubers and follow misogynistic assholes who beat their women, so if all this other stuff that's come out about the nct guys is true, it really is disappointing
as for shindong, im just laughing because he finally got a taste of his own medicine kek
i really like renjun's gig on akdong seoul. he seems to really take the job seriously
jaemin is a plain asshole i remember when renjun told a story about him finding his cactus pot "accidentally left" on his bed by jaemin. it was hidden under the blankets and he could have seriously gotten hurt
They know it's wrong when someone does it to them. Then suddenly they completely understand.
Face it, they're just racist and self-centered.
i didn't mean to come off as thinking renjun was an ass, it was more so i haven't paid close attention to him because i don't find him that interesting. i do find it endearing how he takes his radio show and solo activities seriously, but he kind of fades into the background for me
the cactus situation also reminded me of the time where jaemin literally sat on jeno's birthday cake like…you're almost 20 years old, how do you not know to take half a second to look behind you before you sit on something…didn't he also sit and break some other member's thing too? either the kid is dumb blind or he literally doesn't give a fuck about other people's belongings
i'm such a chenle fangirl but here's another clip of him…he always makes sure to address staff politely, in the clip commenters were saying the outfits were pretty, so he made sure to single out the stylists and let them know which i thought was very sweet
i know people give him shit for being a golden spoon idol who likely paid his way into the industry, but he genuinely seems to work hard and doesn't think super highly of himself (at least on camera)https://mobile.twitter.com/chenleours/status/1230424859810750464
now that i think about it the only problematic
thing people have to say about chenle is how he makes colorist/fatphobic remarks which imo is nothing in comparison to what (mostly jaemin) has done.
i've seen a bit of his family in one night sleepover trip and they all seem grounded too and genuinely kind/loving so i'm not surprised he's the same way since they did raise him
i havent seen fatphobic comments, but i do have to admit i recall him making fun of haechan being dark, and that definitely is not a very nice thing to do and i hope he learns to not say that kind of stuff
asian culture needs to shed the mentality of making fun of dark skin, i get there's different beauty standards but continously banging away that light = beautiful is honestly so backwards and sad
if anything, i feel the korean members are likely given preferential treatment, which probably contributes to why jaemin and jeno seem like bigger pricks than renjun and chenle. i honestly can't say either way about jisung since he's still young, so we'll have to see…
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Out of the whole group Jungwoo is the one that looks the most different
i genuinely think if she dropped the forced nasal tone in her singing she would both sound better and also hit her notes better
she literally could not hold a note because she was also trying to maintain that lana del rey whine in her voice
does yg not have vocal coaches?
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the oh my girl thing apparently has a "part 1" where they appropriate the fuck out of indian culture with a really badly choreographed dance full of indian-style dance moves and a song about curry
not to mention this wonderful screencapped comment post-dance about curry…
this is all in the original linked twitter thread, but legitimately the first time ive actually felt like a group deserves to get dragged for being racists, this is like south park levels of absurdity, whoever approved this actually needs to get fired
this is a whole different level than an idol wearing braids or dreads, this is actual straight up ignorance LOL
damn, they just started to gain traction and they are already being problematic
left and right.
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youtube link of the "curry" song cover and dance plus a snip of the lyricshttps://youtu.be/1ljb8lb2DKw
sadly i dont think korean fans will give a shit about any of this, but i'm curious to see how ifans will try to spin this one
they swept the indian/curry one in 2016 under the rug saying the "company made them do it", but this new mexican burrito one (typing that out already makes me cringe) came directly from the mouth of a member who thought she was being funny
it's going to take a lot of mental gymnastics for fans to shield this one, and i dont think a lot of these fans are working with a full set of tools to begin with
that's disgusting, who is the demographic for this>>89197
agreed, unfortunately I feel like we're gonna have to put up with them for a long time.
>>89263>>89264>b-but their company made them do it, they're innocent!>don't bully them! the hate they get is disporportionate, if your oppars did this, you'd dismiss it!
Girl group stans need to realize that while female idols are subjected more to sexism, they're likely just as ignorant, racist and homophobic as their male counterparts. There's no excuse for what they did, you don't need a deeper understanding of racism or cultural appropriation, just apply that >>89262
logic and you immediately see why doing what they did is so wrong. Every little child would get that already. Simply don't do something to somebody that you wouldn't want somebody else doing to you. How empty are their brains that they think doing that on tv or at a concert is a-okay? Some of the members are 25+, so the uwu little baby excuse can't be applied either.
If you guys wanna listen to punch,its here.https://mobile.twitter.com/m614oon_ti/status/1261969400019603459
Unless they delete it idk.
It's trash and I'm tired of same lame-ass bridge they're always using.
Why couldn't they have just used this b-side as the title track? It's actually a bit of a bop.
There were good sounding moments, but it all blended into samey, mindless singalong.
Has Roseh realized she needs to do things on her own, because her company doesn't give a shit, and while Jennie's career in Korea is set for years to come, same for Lisa's abroad, she and Jisoo are fucked outside of BP.
I feel like Jisoo at least has a shot at acting. She’ll have to drop YG as soon as BP disbands to 1) increase favor among the YG boycotters who want to like her and 2) not end up in limbo like Dara
Idk if the Blackpink members have done enough to be financially set for life like 2ne1, though iirc some absolute has-beens like Sejeong and JooE made bank off their short relevancy and are still living lavishly.
Anyways it’s true Rosé can’t do much outside of BP… heck, even as it is now, her schedule is significantly less busy than all of the other members. I’d start investing in real estate or something if I were her.
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Idols seem to make a lot of money these days. Even if they're a has been or a flop group, they seem to make some kind of bank. Feels like yesterday when Nine Muses were so broke they had to ration out rice.
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Speaking of misogyny and just idols being gross sexist pieces of shit, apparently dispatch revealed that two members of TheBoyz were posting comments to anonymous questions on a site similar to ask.fm that were super problematic
in 2018, and the company apologized and it got swept under the rug
TheBoyz aren't huge nugu groups anymore so their past is getting dug up again and yikes…ofc fans are defending them saying they were young when this happened but the guys were literally like 18 when they posted this…
(link to 2018 apology if anyone wants to read: https://www.soompi.com/article/1237257wpp/fans-demand-new-sunwoo-leave-boyz-cre-ker-entertainment-apologizes
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i looked briefly into the eric situation just now and i have to agree, sometimes you read about korean bullying accounts and its like "this is a bit much" when people say idols threw chairs at then and stuff, but what eric did sounds totally plausible for anyone who's gone to an american middle school
we all had that one group of kids who'd hang out by a flagpole or the lockers and throw shit and be loud, people don't make this shit up because it's so commonplace lol, fans can defend it all they want but this sounds true, and the person who talked about it provided receipts to show they did go to school together
so basically in the 2 years they've been active, there's at least three proven POS members, and now that the group is on that kingdom show everything's coming to light
there's fucking 14 members, i'm sure the company can just get rid of the super shit ones and still do fine lmfao
Actually 11 members, but yeah It's not like an 8 member group would be unheard of. Are New and Sunwoo popular though? I can see why their company might be hesitant in dropping them, not justifying it tho.
I also found an interview she did on some kpop blog, describing her experiences.https://kpopalypse.com/2019/09/11/kpopalypse-interview-tvixxbar-eric-from-the-boyz-alleged-bully-victim
Honestly I mostly follow The Boyz just for Kevin. I really hope he doesnt turn out to be a pos too
same, anon. i only like theboyz because of kevin. i find it amusing that he's such a twink and his voice is quite nice.
some people say there's no proof that the comments about the women as pets were true but i'm more inclined to believe they're real
yeah i pulled the screenshot from the website you linked, it all sounds very plausible and i cant see why someone across the world would want to report this>>89316
the company literally apologized for it, it's not fake…they issued a statement in 2018 stating it was real and the boys were reflecting
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i agree, i heard a bit of punch and its SO bad, i don't see why they don't just use that b-side you linked, or just do something softer instead of this hard "electropop" they insist on trying to make work
i mean we all know the reason is if they do a softer, vocal-oriented song they cant shove taeyong and mark to the front like they always do
ive always thought nct has better vocalists than rappers, haechan has one of the prettiest vocal tones in the idol industry recently, taeil definitely can sing well, and doyoung and jaehyun also have very competent voices. i dont get it, they have no issues not giving people lines, why dont they just focus on a more vocal song? its not like jaehyun and haechan aren't popular either..
pic related just because i found it hysterical lmfao
I think SM is tryna push this "electropop" sound for 127 bc it's what they're most known for. Ppl always refer to their sound as "noise music", it's pretty much their concept at this point. I also think SM might be trying to pull something like Superhuman 2.0 bc the original flopped big time (which imo was a shame cus it's honestly hella catchy and one of the best title tracks, but this might be my bias speaking)
I agree it's annoying that they're constantly going for a similar concept. A softer song would def work really well, something ballad-y like No Longer from their Regular album
i think this was briefly touched upon in a previous thread, but nct doesn't do bad ballads, it just highlights how weak taeyong and mark are when it comes to anything thats not "hype yelling"
White Night is one of my favorite songs they did, it's a shame they don't do this more often. it's really highlights haechan's vocal color and taeil's technique, but also how weak mark, johnny, and taeyong are
also i love how all the comments are taeyong stand going "omg he's proving he can SING!" like…are we listening to the same video?
“Haechan why are you so ugly? Stop eating, you need to lose weight.” @ 0:35
I feel like they always target Haechan because he seems confident enough to take it but damn, that would get tiring.
I have a hard time believing that anyone who grew up in a trainee environment could ever have a normal, healthy mindset without a shitload of therapy.
The issue is that this style of theirs is tired now. It's not like SM have truly been keeping their groups to any particular style (127 - touch, limitless; dream - chewing gum vs ridin rollin or whatever its called; U has a varied concept anyway). Why not try something different, their die-hard fans will like it anyway and then maybe they can actually get some public recognition (but its probably too late anyway).
for me anything is better than wakey wakey. that hook was atrocious.
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Surprise surprise, BP's album is postponed.
I'm not surprised though, with Jennie's injury and the COVID situation, but ofc blinks are going absolutely insane rn
It looks like they're doing two smaller "prereleases" in the summer, but who knows if that'll happen
Right, say how much kimchi smells like ass and see them implode to the point they assume you're Japanese. >>89227
I thought scammer young was Lee so man's favorite
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I used to really hate Haechan but in the past year I’ve grown to actually like him. He’s by far my favorite vocalist in nct, a good dancer, hard working, quick-witted and pretty funny.
I still think he’s annoyingly cocky at times but at least he’s entertaining.
He’s not ugly imo but if he had Taeyong’s face (and was SM’s favorite) I think he’d definitely be the most popular member.
i dont really like his "personality", real or fake on shows and vlives, i think he's really over the top to the point where it's obnoxious, but it's undeniable he has talent and can sing well and dance well
at least he has that going for him, unlike jaemin who's literally only there for his face and fanservice, and this is coming from someone who's a fan. i liked him a lot undeniably because he's quite attractive, but recently i've definitely found myself disliking him more because of the controversies
the industry is oversaturated with pretty boys, there's no reason to defend shitty ones when they're a dime a dozen
Wheew ratmys are delusional>>89352
Damn when will their contracts expire?? Yg is snakey he might pretend to postpone it until the renewal and then after that he'll probably cancel it give all their songs to the new gg kek
i believe their contract ends in 2022, so 2 more years
i cant see rose and jisoo renewing honestly, yg has been promising a rose solo (deserved or not) for forever and she may never get one lol
blinks are fucking crazy though, especially the SEA ones so im surprised yg isnt just forcing shitty half assed songs out of BP more often bc fans will eat it up regardless
I was surprised at how bad jungwoo's live singing was at their concert yesterday, nctzens are always treating him like a top vocalist but he's actually worse than all the vocalists in nct.>>89342
Lmao they want Taeyong to be an all-rounded idol so bad.
i agree and not gonna lie, i was surprised because he and haechan supposedly were the two that passed the "weekend sm auditions" and got in on talent, but the gap between him and haechan's live vocal is considerable. (then again, yoona also supposedly passed the same audition and she isn't exactly known for her singing voice)
i dont get why fans cant just admit a lot of idols aren't meant to be well rounded, like your fave is supposed to be a rapper, why would you expect him to sing well?
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Unfortunately I can't find any other reliable translated article other than a twitter link, but apparently the BTS endorsement fee is $810,000 per member (~1B won)
That is absolutely fucking insane, but what big CF's have they done lately? No wonder idols are taking all the CFs they can, I'm sure even the lesser known ones are still getting paid a ton, like Eunwoo and his menstrual pads kek
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same anon, had to link the tampon/pads ad that eunwoo did because big kek
i wonder how much he got paid for this…
That's not impressive tbh there are tons of influencers making this with half a dozen of posts these days
And what makes you think other idols are striving? It's probably worse than yester years these days for idols since they are way less exposed to the gp. There's just a few of them making bank from CFs considering the oversaturated pool they come from
is it not impressive? last i read someone like cristiano ronaldo (who i would argue is much, much more well known than "jimin of bts") makes around 900k usd per sponsored post, 810k for a singer who's really not known outside of the kpop/koreaboo circle seems insane
but at the end of the day no one knows for sure if theyre actually making this much since no one can see the contracts
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Surprised dispatch posted it at all considering their relationship with SM and Bighit.
oh man, the "good boys" from nct and astro and jungkook, mingyu is probably going to slide right under the radar because the media and public are going to circle around those first three
fans were already saying it was "disproven", but dispatch reporting it yet again makes me feel like they have some evidence or pictures to back it up
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not the original op, but here's a translation of an article
if true, they were told to stay home and yet eunwoo and jaehyun still promoted and mc'd shows, this means their companies are probably going to get skewered too kek
nct is having a comeback soon too, the timing could not be better
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exactly, fans are already trying to say "well the bars were open so they didn't do anything wrong!!" but it's such an irresponsible thing to do. there would be no controversy if they were out at the bars at any other point in time, it's literally a problem because of this coronavirus situation
not to mention, isn't jaehyun's father a physician in korea? i would think he out of everyone would understand the need to quarantine and not do stupid shit like go to the bars, considering his dad may very well actually be on the front lines trying to help people…
BigHit is already "looking into it" aka having a PR statement written, but look at the ratmy at the bottom of that tweet screeching for BH to "protect poor JK" as if he didn't do anything wrong lol
come on, dude…even if they did something wrong why would you wish they were positive? it's not even them getting sick, it's everyone around them who would be exposed too
i love some good tea and honestly im a little excited to see these entitled ass dudes get dragged because the stans are going to go nuts, but thats different than literally wishing for these people to be sick and get others around them sick..
lol just they went out clubbing
also ew @ their unshopped faces
Ratmys are either writing that bh will sue or "Kings! Glad they had fun!"
I once again was naive enough to hope that this could have made them a bit more self aware, but of course they'll never critizise their favs, no matter what…
Your oppars are out there risking to spread a virus that cost thousands of lifes already but of course people not kissing his ass 24/7 are much worse.
The rumor being true also proves that once again a person was bullied by ratmy/bh to apologize (god knows what horrible threats they receive…) >>89388
Tell that your Jk oppar he's the one being reckless
WHY TF are they constantly asking bighit to sue everyone under the sun
this is one of the things i hate the most
when did i ever defend JK lol…i'm not an army and never will be, i was saying theres a difference between being excited for tea and hoping someone is positive so they can spread all their entitled ass germs to the stylists, stage guys, and regular ass people trying to do their jobs
either way i hope these guys actually get some heavy flack for this, this was so fucking irresponsible and theres no way dispatch would release these news without some solid evidence
ratmy fans are already trying to clear searches and demand that jk be protected while also simultaneously being confused because "i thought bh and dispatch had a deal!?"
i love how fucking hypocritical they are, like they know their oppas are problematic
and instead of just admitting theyre shit they shift the blame and are furious because dispatch supposedly didn't honor some unconfirmed deal to protect these shitheads
if this was a girl group member she would be absolutely slaughtered, the double standard is fucking insane
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i follow a lot of jungkook fans and tons of them were having borderline aneurysms about some kind of imaginary hate campaign against him, i swear to god most of these people need help. they are way too invested in this korean man they dont know
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yup, i ventured into an allkpop thread of people asking "army are you going to hold jk accountable" and literally half of the responses are "why are you only asking army and not carat/nct u hate jk and his success ree"
what is it about the army fanbase that attracts so many damn martyrs lol
also this fucking tweet has me laughing…the shade of "the biggest male idols and eunwoo" is fucking hysterical
this is really bad for their image, especially since the itaewon bar scene allegedly caused another wave of covid cases after one infected patron bar hopped several bars
i think theres a stark difference between going to a restaurant where you can still kind of social distance, and going to a packed bar where you're going to be very close to a lot of people
Yeah,especially since they're idols lol.
I think they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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not to mention two of them are defying self quarantine orders and attending music shows and promotions, they definitely deserve to get dragged for putting other people at risk
the unfortunate side effect of being an idol and enjoying the benefits and salary a well known idol makes is that they're going to be held at a different standard than the normal person, the argument of "oh its the government's fault, they should have enforced the rules" is such a stupid and weak argument
it'll be interesting to see how this develops through the week, considering it's only early afternoon in korea and the news only broke a few hours ago
stan twitter has imploded already though kek
Korea gvt never ordered restaurants bar and clubs to shut down so yeah it's basically what >>89405
exactly, i hate the "uwu baby" and "tired parents" narrative like jin and jk are barely five years apart, i own fish who have a bigger age gap than that
jk does seem mentally stunted, and i can see him going through his "teenage rebel" phase because he literally didn't have a childhood, but i hate how ratmy's shield his every move because hes a cute baby…like he's 25, not 5…
Even if that's the case,considering the current situation around the world and the fact that the virus is quite infectious but we still have no vaccine for it ,everyone should feel a sense of responsibility and caution and have some common sense to avoid crowded places such as clubs.
Countries around the world are slowly opening their borders,restaurants etc but that doesn't mean that the risk of catching the virus and spreading it is gone.
I mean they were even posting about it on twitter
But ifans are retarded who will stay in denial
I wonder if SM and Pledis are going to release a statement now.>>89420
if dispatch did post about Mino to shield the other idols why would they come out and expose them 5 days later lmao.
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lmao, love how they were "looking into it" and "couldnt confirm or deny" until now. and all the armys who were demanding bighit start suing people and writing those long ass letters about it….. kpop is so unintentionally hilarious, i love it
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>>89421>Jungkook feels sorry for not practicing social distancing
LMAOOOOO this is so funny. of course he doesn't
my favorite one so far is "how come these stupid reporters weren't practicing social distancing and were at the bars"
uh, because your oppa being trash makes them money? lol
another scandal with jungkook? this boy never chills, its funny how everyone was saying its fake though but bh actually admitted it so armys cant do their mental gymnastics anymore
as for jaehyun and eunwoo, they continued their schedules without self quarantine? even though they were tested negative corona could be hidden for 2 weeks, imagine if they actually got it and spread it to everyone… very irresponsible
as a kind of an ex svtfag im very disappointed in mingyu i hope all 4 are held accountable for their retarded actions and get actual backlash bc this is clearly a very irresponsile thing to do
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well that's 2/4. if sm was smart they'd get something out quick unless they're really going to have him sit out of promotions. idk how they're going to handle his inkigayo gig.
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I really want to see what sm will say.
with astro currently promoting, is eunwoo going to sit out? he's technically supposed to be self quarantining until 5/10 per guidelines and the smart thing to do is just lay low and not give netizens more ammunition
i'm curious about SM too…they would be stupid to keep jaehyun promoting but he literally is their moneymaker despite them trying to make it taeyong so who knows lol
well it's already past 5/10 unless I misunderstood?>>89437
maybe sm is getting chewed out by SBS. they can't be dumb enough to ignore it at this point.
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i meant sit out to "reflect" as he was promoting during the period he was supposed to be home, being on stage now will probably just make things much worse than just laying low
while we all wait for SM to potentially respond, this meme is great
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same anon, but jaehyun's posted something and it's not an apology lmfao
SM's PR team is amazing
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4/4. I used a translator to read the statement and it doesn't sound like he's sitting out promos or anything. I guess we'll see if the backlash gets worse.
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Ratmys getting so angry about a dude translating and posting the news that they’re actually trying to doxx him.
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Andd here we go.
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lmfao imagine being so delusional that the person just translating ur oppa being a shit is worse than ur actual oppa
the best part is if jk pulled a chen these same ratmys would be leaving in hordes kek>>89448
ngl this is totally expected, SM needs to pull him out of promos if they actually want this comeback to succeed
they dont pull taeyong out because the fans arent boycotting the group, kfans are boycotting the comeback right now and selling his photo cards, if they pull him out from promotions they might have a fighting chance at making some money otherwise this will be superhuman promos 2.0
not to mention punch is a weak ass song, so this isnt looking good
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Everyone and their mom is always nutting over Seolhyun's body but everyone in AOA uses hella padding.
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The fact that his group has been promoting social distancing is the cherry on top
eunwoo was a part of the "thank you for staying home" campaign too and the knetz response has been golden
Why did you pretend to suck at acting? You're such an amazing actor. You're doing the "Thank You" campaign (T/N: campaign to promote social distancing in Korea) but shouldn't it be "thanks to you I went to the club" campaign….?
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kfans are offloading jaehyun's merch and boycotting the comeback
what he did is shitty and irresponsible for sure, but how can they still support people like taeyong while also trying to cancel jaehyun lol
just cancel the whole damn group at this point lmao, stans are insane
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i thought this was funny. its from early april and it says "cha eunwoo might be the future for korean men in korea" and it went viral today bc everyone thought it was ironic their nickname is also itaewon and cha eunwoo's image is tainted now
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honestly terrifying. explains the weird timing since it all happened last month.
I’m not gonna deny that this scandal is very real, but this is such a typical move. Rooting for those involved in the nth room chat to get real punishment.
Also, notice how all the idols that were caught going out are born in ‘97; there’s supposedly a group chat of idols born that year, which makes me think that all of them probably have been going clubbing together for a while, but this is the first time it’s been reported because of the extra coronavirus flavour.
Fuck off pathetic oppalogists, the public and government of Korea have been kissing Bts' asses for ages already, they're way too important to them (because muh national pride) to throw them under the bus for that. Not everything is some huge conspiracy against your innocent baby bois.
Jungkook and Eunwoo are the definition of privileged males who hold way too much power. God knows what stuff they already got away with thanks to either money or their agencies simply pressuring the other party to the point of them apologizing for stating the truth. The girls partying with them might have to give away their phones at the clubs entrance or sign something, that's why no pics exist. They could do everything they want to less famous people (like female or younger male idols) and there'd never be any consequences.
This is the same situation like with Bigbang, a couple years ago everybody was "haha they're so rich and famous, true kings" plus brushing their scandals and all warning signs under they rug, and now they go "omg who could've ever known that he's so horrible?!"…
Fans reactions to this (besides k-nctfags who immediately dropped Jaehyun which is totally valid
in this situation) are absolutely sickening. A true brainwashed cult.
Pretty much. Korean GP doesn't care about BG idols. >>89471>>89473>>89472
Except there's no logic behind throwing your greatest cultural export under the bus to save a handful of criminal scum who are literal nobodies otherwose.>>89483>Are kpop stans just trying to distract from their stupid bgs being irresponsible and thoughtless
No. Are we forbidden to laugh at more than one thing at a time?
Are you people DUMB?
Every top article this morning was about NTH oom you dumb idiots
This stupid club thing isnt even big enough to cover Koreas anger over NTH room dumbasses
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Kpop in a nutshell
Also, what's with stans clearing searches with "best boy Jk, Eunwoo,…"? Reads like something out of r/doggo kek
ok calm down. I don't keep track of trending articles, I'm glad to know that nth room takes priority of this petty mess. I'm ready for all the milk if they have been clubbing regularly and dispatch finally starts to report it. I'm tired of the babying, especially since eunwoo and jaehyun willingly put people's lives in danger by possibly spreading (despite being tested negative later). They're selfish and need a reality check, idol or not it was a dick move.>>89499
I'm ready for the korean public to hold their government's feet to the fire. Too much goes unresolved, it's surely reaching a breaking point by now. If there are so many big names involved it would destabilise the economy, then maybe there needs to be a change in who is holding economical power.
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this is an image board. are we supposed to actually see him in this video?
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Ot but kek at all the self righteous anons who come itt just to say “this thread sucks! Mods pls nuke it!”
This thread is absolutely more milky than any cow thread atm
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no but someone posted about it
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cha eunwoo was spotted
lmfao if this is true nct might as well just give up on promotions, theyre already going to get fucked bc of this jaehyun thing
fans are gonna say "its all media play! someone's out to get nct bc theyre finally getting big!!" but its literally just all of their oppas finally getting exposed for being shits (this dating one doesnt count obviously) with some great timing
How SM managed to cast such poor quality idols and executed a flop bg with all their prestige and resources is far beyond me. You can feel
the decrease in quality in everything they do nowadays.
this has been said before, it's because nct is a nepotist group made up of rich kids whose parents paid for them to prance around and do the famous idol thing
outside of taeil, haechan, taeyong, and potentially jungwoo, the rest of the nct kids are fucking loaded with no true talent. no one knows how jungwoo made it through auditions since he can barely sing live, and taeyong was only casted bc he looks like a budget jaejoong
the rest of them literally are all just rich kids whose parents bankroll everything, fans will scream about the talent but anyone who listens to their music knows half the group is there for filler lol
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oh i didnt mean to make it sound like you were beating a dead horse comment, i mainly was mentioning that the nct flop/rich kid topic has been discussed extensively before if you wanted to search since there were a lot of people chiming in
sm quality has significantly declined in the last five years or so, trainees that wouldnt have made the cut otherwise have been debuted solely bc of parental money
look at nct johnny, like the dude was training from before exo even debuted, i believe he holds the record for longest trainee at around 10 years. i doubt he wouldve been allowed to stay and debut when sm still had quality control, the only reason he was is because his mom basically paid for it to happen
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can't wait to see jungkook cry on their next paid content
I'm certain that dispatch does have pictures of them in the club. And they definitely did go clubbing, not just for dinner because who the fuck would go to 3 different restaurants in 1 evening? They waited quite a bit to release this info, getting everybody hyped, now they enjoy the mass triggering
of fans after the agencies had to confirm and then maybe tomorrow or in a couple days they'll deliver the final blow lol fingers crossed>>89536
Yeah, besides dream their ages aren't too far from exo, many nct members would've been of normal idol age had the debuted with them. They're probably to exo what suju is to dbsk: the leftovers. Only difference is that suju worked extremely hard in varieties to get their name known plus they had simple yet public friendly songs.
honestly i believe that too, dispatch for sure has some sort of concrete evidence, there's no way they would try to pick a fight with 4 agencies without some solid proof to back it up (let alone SM and BH)
my theory is that the pictures are pretty bad, or else there's no way the companies would have confirmed so quickly. fans keep demanding for "photo proof!!" but i feel like they'll eat their words if dispatch actually releases them, because they'll probably not just be of oppa sitting or standing outside a bar
i for one just want dispatch to release them so fans learn not to ask for shit they don't want to see lol
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also to all the oppapologists in here saying ur poor uwu baby was used as a scapegoat to cover up the nth room scandal
nth room and godgod are top of the current search list, they are not getting buried, the general korean population is not filled with people under the age of 30 uwuing about oppas, there are plenty of people who don't follow idols and wouldn't get sidetracked by this supposed coverup lol
kpop fans are so delusional, deflecting any blame so that their precious baby boys dont get any additional hate
the best part is if these idols had pictures of women sitting on their laps in the bars these same pig fans would be leaving and stop defending them lmfao
dispatch please release the pictures the milk is so good
it sounds like a rejected bts b-side to me, and the use of autotune is excessive
it's not a bad song, im sure if bts released it it wouldve been lauded as "amazing" and "inspirational" but it just sounds generic and uninspired to me
the video is a mess, it reminds me of a budget dna with some of the colors they used
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>>89540> fans keep demanding for "photo proof!!" but i feel like they'll eat their words if dispatch actually releases them
These ratmy tweets are so infuriating to read, they don't know when to back down. You can show them the shit they wrote about other idols just yesterday and they just go "[insert name] who?" or they literally say they don't care because their oppar is the best and therefore allowed to do whatever he wants.
If one of the bts members dares to complain about stalker fans again, I think I'm gonna puke. It's solely their fault that 1000s of little kids turned into obsessed monsters trying to ruin every person who dares to love their oppars a little less than they do.https://twitter.com/BJiminism/status/1260123409209409536
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agreed. dont support this stupid #apologizetomino hashtag but the fucking double standards of ratmys kek
if jk wasnt involved in this scandal they would be shitting all over the rest of the guys for not following social distancing and "look at our uwu princes so inspirational they even did a campaign" but now that their golden baby maknae is involved all they can do is tell people not to dish out criticism as if they wouldn't have jumped all over it lol
honestly people say nctfags and ratmys are the worst out of all of them but after this entire debacle ratmys are on a whole other level
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Ctfu and to think he's the most relevant member
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I know no one likes knet trans reposts but theyre really dragging the fuck out of them, Im kekin
not a fair pic to judge him on as everyone looks like squidward with that close up selfie shot. however he's really nothing special. very mediocre. you should check out his high school pics among his classmates. he did not stand out and looked like any other typical kid lol.
he's just an above avg guy whom big hit/ratmys carefully manages the image of, to appear millions of times more than he is.
problem is, all his fans judge him based on the highly edited, cherrypicked photos thinking he looks like that irl… like reaaally?!! although u can say the same for every other shilled idol/actor.
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lmfao digging up a post from 50 replies ago just to defend oppa and didn't sage, at least try to hide that youre a twitter ratmy>>89564
the best part is most international fans are just trolling him, theres obviously a couple oppa uwu fans defending him and protecting him but ive mainly seen memes instead of people trying to shield him unlike the ratmy population which has imploded
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Oh LOL this looks so messy. The account is accusing him of being a prostitute for dating a 40 yr. old. lmfao
exactly, they're not uwubabies when they take off their clothes on stage, i hate the narrative that they're "young and need to be protected" when its convenient, but "omo hot bias wrecker daddy" every other time
they're grown ass men who shouldve known better not to go out despite anything the government said or didnt say, just because they were allowed to didnt mean they should have, it was common sense not to go bar crawling especially since they shouldve known dispatch was probably prowling the area waiting to catch someone out
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Anyone know what the deal with this account ishttps://twitter.com/mazedbybts
she seems to have posted accurate information before and she posted screenshots of the tattoo girl's art that jk copied
is she just a troll or does she have actual inside information?
who knows, the korean population knew the rumors swirling about the itaewon group long before it broke the international segment
if anything i feel like she probably just prowls the lesser read korean forums and translates news, or just reads sasaeng rumors
she seems to be a ratmy so i would take a lot of stuff she says at heart, she's trying to say all of this was a coverup for nth room
if she is right though and dispatch is revealing bts stuff because of some contractual end im just excited for the tea and ratmy meltdown
i posted about it here>>89547 its delusional to think bts has the pull to cover up the nth room. the nth room is still at the top of searches for almost all korean news sites except the heavily entertainment oriented ones, and even then they are still on the board. besides, the nth room news right now are about a bunch of nobody losers who were running the room, there has been zero news about high ranking politicians etc participanting in these rooms, why the fuck would the media want to protect these nameless losers?
its stupid to believe that the general korean population over the age of 30 gives two shits about a couple of 20-something idols going to the bars during covid, thats like saying the usa used the kardashians to cover up the jeffrey epstein scandal
companies released statements because the rumors have been swirling for a while and dispatch likely had more evidence waiting on the backburner. they admitted it likely to prevent dispatch from releasing more pictures/evidence, not to fucking help korea cover up the biggest sex crime ring of the current decade
this is what i mean by fans being delusional as fuck, like your oppa is not a martyr, hes not used as some conspiracy scapegoat, hes just and idiot for not having common sense and is only sorry he got caught