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No. 87608
Discuss kpop.
>Who's your favorite band/group? Who's your bias?>Any comebacks you're looking forward to?OR
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>>84984Nitpicking will now result in a ban. No. 87639
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https://twitter.com/glossaw/status/1258105443542429697?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fvigilantcitizenforums.com%2Fthreads%2Fbts-discussion-thread.3453%2Fpage-1318Phaha, is this for real?? So allegedly V plays games online with ratmies. And you can see Ratmies sending their half-naked characters to his.
They'll rape him if he was in flesh in front of them. But yeah, only men are pigs, right?
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>>87641>>87650Isn't that a theory? Or did IU talk about it?
No. 87709
>>87684it's the kind of song that I wouldn't mind having to sit through, but I don't see myself coming back to.
I hope Natty sees some success though. Going through 2 survival shows seems rough
No. 87725
>>87666i love how calling you a twitterfag made you go from
>Ya'll are so aggressive on here lolto
>bunch of titty ass retardsanyway, this is not twitter. if you can’t hide how autistic you are you just need to fuck off
No. 87730
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>>87608The only Kpop song that I like is Russian Roulette by Red Velvet, though that's probably because I haven't listen to much Kpop in general. I've checked out the rest of the album but none of the other songs could hit the same spot Russian Roulette did. What are some other Kpop songs that have the same 'feel' as Russian Roulette?
No. 87733
>>87730Full albums are rarely similar to title tracks, you've gotta look for other promoted songs (usually anything with a music video on yt) if you want something super catchy like Russian Roulette. Red Velvet have quite a few songs like that, my favs are Dumb Dumb and Ice Cream Cake. Other SM girl groups like f(x) and Girls Generation are a good start, they all use the same producers.
tbh Russian Roulette is a god tier song and most groups could only dream of releasing such a bop.
No. 87739
>>87737>because if they said "fag" or "retard" on their accounts they'd be attacked by stans within minutesno one cares about that anymore, people only make a fuss about that when they want to get your account suspended for something unrelated you said about their fave. but twitterfags only say it here to fit in.
>>87730red flavor? power up?
No. 87740
>>87608>This thread is no longer just the critical thread. So stop bitching if someone starts fangirling. This is now the general kpop thread as well, not your personal safespace.Genuinely impressed at how many contradictory statements you've managed to fit into such a small number of words. I wouldn't be shocked if the entire moderation team on LC is underage considering how inarticulate all of you come across as.
And why keep referring to the rules page when the moderation isn't even in the slightest carried out in accordance to it? Either:
1) consistently update it with a list of bannable offences, or
2) stop issuing public bans listing reasons that aren't in the rules, or
3) forget about the rules page and implicitly admit that you’re making up new & arbitrarily enforced rules around every corner that only the most avid LC residents can keep up-to-date with. Which would be totally fine too and in fact a throwback to early chan culture. All that I ask from you is cut it with the duplicity.
No. 87744
>>87742You don't know about tripfagging and the fact that it's banned here, yet I'm the twitterfag outsider. lmfao
I don't even have a twitter account and that was my very post in this thread.
No. 87746
Nothing in the OP isn't already in the rules.
>You don't know about tripfaggingYeah I do, what does that got to do with anything?
>>87745 You don't even know how to properly delete your posts.
>>87739I agree, but it makes them stand out when they try too hard.
No. 87761
>>87684I like it, the breakdown is cool. I don’t know if I would listen to it often but it’s a decent debut. I like it way more than Somi’s debut.
afaik chungha’s debut wasn’t
that great yet she’s managed to build up momentum so Natty probably can too
The only thing I don’t like is her voice, especially during the prechorus. Is that what she sounded like on sixteen? Her dancing looks good though.
No. 87763
>>87730It’s a B-side but I remember liking this when I was on my Russian Roulette vibe.
Speaking of Red Velvet, I would love for them to release something along the lines of Automatic again.
No. 87765
>>87763the whole pink tape album was really good tbh
it was weird how even tho snsd was the cow cash of sm at that time, their albums were mostly really filler and boring whilst f(x) as all over the place as they were actually had some good songs on their albums
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t's bullshit how Mr Mr is thought to be one of SNSD's worst comeback songs (when The Boys exists). Love Mr Mr. The concept and styling were on point and looks-wise they were at the top of their game.
No. 87796
Can we share our favourite kpop albums? Mine would probably be f(x) Pink tape & Red light imo they the have 0 fillers. My favourite songs from their other albums would be sweet witches,love, lollipop, mr.boogie,ice cream,jet, zig zag.
Wonder Girls reboot is also a good one
Brown Eyed Girls usually have good b-sides BASIC and Black box are decent, AOA also have good b-sides (sometimes even better than titles) Under the Street Lights, Girl's Heart, Just the two of us, You know that, 10 seconds, Ninety Nine - for example
Best japanese albums to me are SNSD Girls & Peace, After School Dress to Kill
As for boy groups Exo, Shinee and sometimes Vixx are kinda listenable, oh and idk about their other songs but Sunset by KNK is like the best boy group song ever to me
No. 87799
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>>87796I agree with your opinions on f(x)’s discography and what you said about BEG, but I would say that EXO’s and SHINee’s can be considered pretty good for K-pop and beyond just listenable. SHINee’s later stuff from Odd and beyond especially would be considered some of my favorite albums.
To add on, I like almost every track on Perfect Velvet.
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>>87796i haven’t agreed with an opinion this much in a while lol. the only difference i have is that vixx, exo, and shinee are top tier when it comes to boy group discography. even though it just released 1719 by hatfelt has no skips for me. miniskirt by aoa, truth or dare by gain, perfect velvet by red velvet, purpose by taeyeon, blooming days by exo-cbx, odd by shinee (i think it’s one of the most well put together albums in kpop), goodbye by bap, and revive by beg are ones that i always listen to.
No. 87802
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>>87796I love exo's universe winter album, it's their best album imo. I also love Day6's moonrise and sunrise, they have 0 skips for me. Tbh Day6 is the only group where I genuinely like every single song.
No. 87804
>>87802Everything in exo went downhill after this album, it really is their best
>>877964 walls and reboot are by far my favorite kpop albums
Do you guys have a kpop song you always go back and listen to? For me it's replay by shinee, i never get sick of it. sting by stellar deserves an honorable mention
No. 87820
>>87796Totally agreed about Pink Tape, I actually bought it just to demonstrate my approval. Other favs
>GD&TOP Volume 1 >Boa's self titled english album >Tense by TVXQ>Catch Me by TVXQ>XOXO by Exo >Girls & Peace by SNSD>Solar by Taeyang>Absolute 1st Album by T-ara>To Anyone by 2ne1Apparently I don't like many full albums beyond 2nd gen, I'm pretty picky and always delete songs I don't love from full albums. It's funny because I can have like, 15 songs from one group but they'll be from 10 different albums. And some of my all time favourite songs are the only song I like from that group. Kpop is really hit and miss.
No. 87823
>>87796I like all of Exo's albums, especially their first but imo nothing beats DMUMT.
Many thought Tempo is too weird (vocally it's god-tier) and therefore didn't even give the rest of the album a chance but the other songs are totally different, I absolutely love all but one. Smile on my face is probably my fav, at first I thought it must be one of their earlier songs because the intro has a sort of dreamy old kpop sound to it. 24/7 is also very sweet.
No. 87835
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Apparently Suran and Suga has gotten into yet another dating rumour. Didn't they get into a dating rumour back in 2018? Even dispatch can't save them now. They have covered for them long enough.
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>>87835i saw this too, it seems like it stemmed from suga posting a screenshot at a random time, and then suran posting it at the same time, but having the lyrics "are you happy now" that were at a different time
knetizens seem to be dismissing this as suran attention-whoring/doing media play instead of a concrete dating rumor since she was the one who started the previous one by captioning something as a play on suga's
her response is super weird though, she basically posted in a comment that "the collab thing started with mine and i didn't think he would collab more after me" as if artists don't collab super often with other artists….
honestly to me it just sounds like bitterness/envy rather than a dating rumor, maybe she had a thing for him and is stirring the pot but who knows?
No. 87850
>>87841>>87842him saying it at a Japanese interview back when they were not as super popular so they had more control over whatever they said/produced. even if you look at the original wording rather than the translation, its that. and then when he got backlash for this and more questions about it he kinda had to keep quiet. its kinda sus
if theres a member whos likely to not be straight its suga. hes also done weird innuendos in his music
No. 87864
>>87862miyeon is korean. yuqi and shuhua are chinese, and minnie is thai.
they were joking about her being bad at games, it's not that deep, even tho i agree with the soyeon and the backup dancers sentiment
No. 87867
>>87862If you tell the "Soyeon and her friends" thing to their fans even though it’s
obvious, they will eat you up. They are not ready to admit it. Cube really has been trying to clone a Hyuna 2.0 with either Soyeon or Soojin.
No. 87873
>>87856was it though? if you read the original script it translates into what it is. the og sentence implies that he doesn't have an ideal type but that the general atmosphere of the person matters, and this is not limited to opposite gender
also why would bigshit pass off his lyrics in cypher 3 in the first place and other sus shit hes said in the pre-hyyh era
No. 87881
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Jackson is getting spooky
No. 87895
>>87881i never understood why idols post scale pics like these knowing their fans will worry and possibly misunderstand it
by the way, excluding jaejoongs retarded prank, was there any idols who actually got diagnosed with coronavirus?
No. 87896
>>87881he’s definitely has a problem. i remember back when i was a got7 fan, he would always be insecure about his legs being too short and looking like an elephant. hope he doesn’t take this too far and gains some weight
>>87895none that were widely reported. some people thought chungha, iu, and everglow almost caught it because of staff who got sick tho
No. 87900
>>87867Soyeon’s already
way more likely to reach Hyuna-tier levels of popularity than Soojin. She’s responsible for so much of not only G-Idle’s music but also for other artists’ too. I feel like Cube wanted to debut her as a solo artist but realized that she needed a group to carry her their first.
Anyway, her clips on Queendom make her seem hard to work with, and the fact that she conveniently has the most lines on tracks she’s helped produced contributes to my image of her as a little self-centered.
No. 87901
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So SM has been offering this service called "Dear U Bubble" since early this year, where fans can pay to basically have a "private" SNS conversation with their oppa
Basically they get "private" canned messages into their phone that feels like they're being texted directly
It's so creepy, and stars are taking it super far with the boyfriend fanservice. I wish all of this boyfriend image selling would go away, this just feeds the preteen delulus even more
I'm also imagining some exhausted staff member just typing all these cheesy responses out as a part of their job and laughing at the absurdity of it
No. 87905
>>87897i agree, eating disorders are likely rampant in the industry due to the pressure to look "good".
i was watching a vlive the other day with nct dream, and jisung read out a comment asking jaemin to eat more, and jaemin basically laughed and said he was 55kg (120lbs) but now he was 58kg (127lbs), which is still teetering on unheathily underweight for his height at 5'9"/5'10"
it did seem like the members were concerned about his weight loss, but it's scary to see how rampant eating disorders and likely body dysmorphic disorders are in kpop
No. 87906
>>87898all he's ever said is that line in one of the cypher tracks about making men and women come with his tongue (in context it's a play-on-words that basically just translates to "i am very good at rapping"), and once responding to being asked about his ideal woman with "my ideal partner would be…" instead of "my ideal girlfriend".
naturally deluded fujos take this to mean he "has a preference for men
No. 87907
>>87906additionally, i highly doubt a currently promoting idol, especially one from a successful company would be allowed to come out.
korea is still very conservative, even the basically out-idols (like jokwon) still pretty much deny or ignore the rumors instead of addressing it because the backlash would be immense
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>>87901I hate how everybody always shits on fangirls and pities idols while everything they do, no matter if it's their lyrics, their dances, what they post or what they say during fansigns is manipulating teens into becoming obsessed with them. I do feel sorry for the nugu female idols who have to endure sweaty neckbeards, but not top groups like Exo or Bts. They're nearly 30 and millionaires, doing fanservice is obviously their choice, they ramp up it up because they know it sells. Baekhyun and Kai also do that despite having experienced first hand how their fans react when they date. It's their own fault, you can't profit of selling fake love without one day having to reap the consequences. All idols are basically scammers.
No. 87914
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>>87913JYP seems not too bad. Plus aren't the girls families wealthy?
No. 87916
>>87914holy crap, SM makes so much money if you think about how absolutely loaded all their main idols are despite the pretty company-skewed percentages
didn't people joke that the newest SM building was basically built off of one EXO album?
No. 87918
>>87916SM artists get a good deal. That 70% cut of overseas promotion is what you want when you're doing massive dome tours. The other categories are chump change in comparison. It's also not quite accurate, the cut of physical album sales scales with the amount they sell.
I would love to see a source for these though, not 'kbizoom' or w/e but the actual korean source documents. SM's distribution was revealed in the court documents from JYJ's case, and presumably it's not the same for every group anyway, not even for TVXQ since they negotiate when they re-sign. I don't remember seeing any other companies releasing information like this in detail, except for this info on JYP which contradicts the chart
>https://nomediaplay.tumblr.com/post/173355208179/people-say-that-jyp-idols-have-50-50-contracts>On royalties from overseas music/content sales, JYP artists get to keep 5-30% (depending on artist and product). >On money from artist management, JYP artists get to keep 50% of the remaining gross profit after deducting costs for agency fees, marketing, activity costs, accommodation costs and training costs. No. 87923
>>87917that, and the fact that they probably receive a ton of sponsored stuff as well as expensive ass fangifts
even the less popular members have some semblance of fansites who will buy things for their birthday and stuff, even if it's not at the level of the EXO guys
didnt a chinese fansite buy chanyeol like three rolexes? i dont understand why these people give literal millionaires extravagant gifts like they cant afford it themselves
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>>87917I thought SM artists stopped accepting gifts years ago? Anyway airport fashion is like this huge thing in Korea so I know for sure that their airport outfits are mostly borrowed from stylists. Sometimes even the stuff they wear on vlives/vlogs. They can afford nice clothes regularly with their own money but probably just afford the low-middle and mid-tier luxury stuff, but definitely cannot afford to dress in head to toe high-end luxury like this on the daily. Their last comeback did do well so they could just be beginning to rake in the cash for themselves. Can’t speak for WayV though bc they’re loaded nepotist kids
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Niziproject girls
Just a poll from niziupdates twitter
-your prediction for final lineup
-your favourites
No. 87947
Did anyone watch NCT Dream's live concert today?
>>87942The only ones I find pretty are number 2 and 6
No. 87962
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>>87942Nina is 100% debuting. I like her a lot, but it feels weird that she's JYP's new Somi.
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Day6 is halting all promotions days before their album releases, I hope they're all ok, I can't see JYPE doing this unless it was really bad, but maybe this is finally a step in entertainment agencies treating their artists like people and acknowledging mental health as an actual thing
Day6 is one of my favorite groups, so I'm sad they won't be performing but happy they're getting rest
No. 87986
>>87935I saw what expensive shit wayv gifted each other like a year after debut and thought that was suspicious af. Sm probably gives nct brand stuff to act as if they bought it themselves because fans dig idols being rich (see bp or bts).
>>87981>several members suddenly all have anxietyI'm sorry but some idols nowadays act like tumblrinas. Since Mina got a break, a disproportionately high number started claiming the same condition. What mental illness will be trendy next, will we get a bunch of idols saying they have bpd? Is this some kind of scheme by jyp to paint himself has kind caring and woke boss, when in reality he's actually a cult member and major creep?
No. 87993
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>>87992Kpop 100% attracts and breeds mental instability in their idols and in their fans. The whole thing is a circus dumpster fire. I read an article about this topic a couple of years ago and it hits a lot of points.
Link to it:
http://www.moonrok.com/kpop-attract-mental-instability-breed/I’ll post screenshots here:
No. 87997
>>8799599% of idols are narcissists. It’s a given fact. Nearly all of them probably suffer from anxiety and depression or other disorders. They coexist, it comes with the whole package. You can’t convince me that any of them are mentally stable.
Quote from the article:
“Cinderella Stories” are non-existent, especially in Kpop. Celebrities hustle their entire pre-pubescent lives to make it in the entertainment industry, and they do so only because they are confident in one thing and one thing only: themselves. To even want to be a celebrity you have to not just believe, but actually know that you are better than everyone else, and deserving of the extra attention, respect, and money that the masses will eventually heap upon you. And even if they don’t start as narcissists, it’s easy to believe that Kpop idols could evolve into them. Kpop fans fuel the celebrity ego with fervor. They wait outside for hours in the rain, snow, and heat just to catch a glimpse of their favorite idols on their way to work. When the two minutes it takes you to walk from your van into the radio station equals 6 hours of a fan’s time waiting for you, it’s hard not to start thinking that you are in fact better than everyone else.
Meanwhile a “fanmeet” is basically a euphemism for a tribute ceremony: the idols sit on an elevated platform as their fans proceed one by one to kneel before them to offer up expensive gifts before the idols give them a smile, pat them on the head, and send them on their way. It is this kind of over-the-top fan behavior that allows idols to start believing in their own hype.
No. 88000
>>87993I'm not shocked at all. Thanks for posting this. So many trainees are pretty much taken from school and their parents as young as 11 or 12 and put into harsh regimes and training for years until debut. So many of them (especially female trainees) end up with massive mental issues and inability to socialize.
Are there any cases from first or second gen kpop artists who got out and dont know how to function?
No. 88015
>>88010isn't somi's dad kind of a manager-type? he seems to push somi and her sister into entertainment pretty hard, and her sister is still pretty young.
i don't think its "dance moms" level, but it's definitely more than what a normal parent would push for, especially since he's an ex-entertainment guy himself and should 100% know how the industry is
if i were a parent who went through the industry, i don't think i'd push my underage children through it as hard as he did
No. 88020
>>88017i agree, especially when her mom posts pictures of herself with captions patting herself or her husband on the back for being "good parents"
they're literally exploiting their child on the internet, i wouldn't be surprised if they tried to force her into going solo once she's old enough to be able to join a trainee group and plaster that all over the internet too
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im so disturbed by non-korean idols morphing into koreans as time goes on. when i saw that natty was debuting, i literally couldn't recognize her. looking at her transformation from a girl who actually looked thai on sixteen, to a girl that looked a little bit thai on idol school, and now shes literally unrecognizable. she pulled a lisa
No. 88043
>>88026SEA/Black features are looked at as low class you
know this and I know this anon
No. 88045
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idols should lose more weight, look how pretty Lizzy was
No. 88057
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>>88054i'm serious, everyone looks better when they lose weight
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>>88057she looks like this
No. 88067
>>88045What's wrong with the girl on the left's face? Looks like it's melting.
Anyway, I'm also curious about 1st and 2nd gen idols' "life after fame", anyone has success/failure stories to share?
No. 88077
>>88067A decent example would maybe be MBLAQ? They weren't top tier when they were active, but people knew who they were and they weren't a meme (looking at you, UKISS)
But after they disbanded, no one really cares about them anymore. I think Lee Joon is the most successful because he's actually a half decent actor, and GO is a streamer? I remember he was in a ton of news when he was getting engaged/married because he was just whoring their wedding out on stream for donations
I don't even know what the other three are doing, they seemed to just fade into obscurity since none of them are talented enough to go solo
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>>88102because black people literally created kpop?
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>>88106I wouldn’t say they’re the most racist or even racist lol
Just kinda ignorant call me a ratmy but I honestly don’t feel genuine racism from them
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Does lolcow have an “our group” lol?
No. 88119
>>88117For girl groups, no.
For boy groups, a lot of farmers are low key NCTzens or rats.
I would say there are a lot of posters in the thread who are fans of nugu or disbanded groups.
No. 88120
>>88116>>88117What's with this weird avatarfagging?
>>88106>bts>the most racist of them all.kek how can you say this when Mamamoo has actually done blackface.
No. 88125
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>>88122Kpop guys kinda look like lesbians
No. 88129
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Our fanservice king struck again: this is his reaction to somebody commenting that it's their birthday (and of course ratmys celebrate it as savage and hilarious).
Surely more than a couple hundred people are watching him, meaning chances are high that's always at least one of his fans birthday.
Is somebody writing this already considered oppressive towards idols nowadays and warrants them defending themselves? What even are you allowed to say to them when everything is either considered hate or fetishization?
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Gidle's Shuhua apparently ripped into a malicious commenter on Saturday, is this the first time an idol's openly called out an anti this hard? She seemed pretty pissed because apparently it's the same anti who managed to get Soojin to read out a comment about how ugly she was
On one hand it's refreshing that she had the balls to call them out, on the other hand I'm cringing because this probably just adds more fuel to the fire
No. 88133
>>87962nina looks very european
>>87986fuck off. if anyone is going to suffer with anxiety i bet its going to be people that have to deal with thousand upon thousands of people on the daily.
No. 88157
>>88146I mean, exhibit A: Natty
we covered this earlier
No. 88164
>>88163you don't need talent or looks anymore, you just need money
half of the idols right now in the big three are just rich kids who's parents paid for them to live the famous idol dream, very few of them are actually talented which is why the quality of the big 3 has gone down so much
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Top 5 prettiest idols of all time
1- Irene
2- Bae Suzy
3- Seolhyun
4- Jessica Jung
5- Rosé
No. 88182
>>88178>>88177Your average white celebrity does neither blackface nor do they outright mock others for having darker skin. Ariana Grande and Kim K are literally known for ca and they've been cancelled by many black people long ago already.
>>88168>They talk about it often.Not OP but that's kind of the point: they constantly talk about, there's hardly a day without a scandal, that must be so stressful. Why do they continue consuming kpop although that means constantly getting their feelings hurt? Kpop is copying black music, finding a cute western guy with a similar style and stanning him instead shouldn't be too difficult.
No. 88198
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>>88164It's not even just talent, the rich kid idols never even had to develop a personality. That's what was so good about the 2nd gen idols. If they weren't talented, you could bet that they'd be funny at least. I was rewatching old idol variety episodes from around 2010 and it's amazing how hilarious they still are. Female idols aren't afraid to look dumb or ugly and they say pretty edgy things (relatively). Nowadays, there's maybe one funny member and the others stand around looking blank or there's just obviously scripted fan service moments. Twice are probably the best of the bunch.
No. 88214
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Winner's Mino is in the news for going to a bar during this entire COVID situation. I know Korea's technically slowed down their restrictions and opened up bars (which is a whole other issue), but how many more celebrities are going to get caught going clubbing before this all goes down?
So far we have Jungkook, Gyuri, Mino, and possibly Cha Eunwoo?
I don't get how it's so hard to just not go clubbing while this is all going down, especially since Dispatch seems to be circling the bars waiting to catch them out
No. 88229
>>88225>>youtuber ran into JK in an alley behind a barSource?
>>88218Its even more funny when you realize that the majority of koreans have the same skin tone as yuri (and even darker than that)
No. 88243
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SM released a magazine cover of the youngest 127 boys and honestly I think they look pretty good here.
They're still young and look their age, and I actually really like the more natural styling instead of the grungey e-boy look SM has been trying to push lately
No. 88246
>>88231I thought he promised to be a good boy after his scandal? But instead he's hanging out with a dude who's got tattoos all over his head in a dark alley during corona…? Did ratmys bury this or why didn't he get any backlash from knets? Other idols get shit for simply posting a selfie lately.
And I can't imagine Cha Eunwoo clubbing, all he ever does is pose and smile awkwardly.
No. 88248
>>88246honestly i'm surprised too, idols get shit for going to clubs period so i'm surprised he didnt get any kind of backlash for this
i'm convinced Big Hit buys out a lot of the gossip/tabloid websites to keep BTS out of the news
Honestly once their popularity wanes I can see them being outed as super messy/shit people, kind of like Kangin and Seungri after they stopped being popular. Jungkook is only 25 and already has gotten into some messy scandals, once he gets older it probably will be a shitshow
No. 88256
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>>88119I think all of us lowkey are unanimous on the obviously talented groups like TVXQ in their prime or more recently, Shinee. I haven't seen anything negative about Shinee aside from Taemin looking like the child of Gackt and Oli London since his first mini album.
>>88163There's quite a few ex-Big Three trainees that ended up in flop groups because they wouldn't debut any time soon. Examples being Jinho of Pentagon who was in SM the Ballad as a trainee and later left SM before NCT debuted.
>>88167>>88170> Armys spread it was a gay bar> It was just a normal bar. I really can't comprehend why kpop fans want idols to be gay so bad.Because they'd rather have their bias be gay than date a girl that isn't them
>>88181My personal picks:
Eugene (SES)
Kim Jihye (To-Ya, the 1st gen Irene, in pic)
Sung Yuri and Lee Hyori (FinKL)
Nam Gyuri (Seeya)
Kwon Nara (Hello Venus)
Jang Wonyoung (I*Zone, not a pedochan)
Tzuyu (Twice)
Nana (After School)
Lee Naeun (April)
>>88210She's kinda a queen, I wonder if 15& Jimin is jealous of her success since Square (2017) blew up.
>>88218Ironic bc Hyuna was initially tanned, which was considered sexy, and her song Ice Cream mentioned something like "chocolate ice cream, like my brown skin". But when she sings that song at concerts, she's ghostly white.
No. 88257
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>>88256Pic of Nam Gyuri as well
No. 88265
>>88205Definitely Agree anon. Im watching Produce Camp/Chuang 2020 and the youngest contestants are all 18/19.
Also have the chinese produce shows gotten rigging accusations yet? So far i haven't seen any evil editing yet but mostly just some questionable screentime distribution.
No. 88266
>>88258It's because celebrities are typically mentally stuck at the age at which they become stars. He's kind of similar to Justin Bieber in a way with the early fame and the shitty tattoos and generally edgy behavior. He's also from Busan where being 'manly' is a standard among the guys, although not all guys from Busan are this cringey.
Thankfully JK keeps this stuff on the DL or else we'd actually have some cringe material, probably like Jay Park levels of cringe.
No. 88275
>>88266i think jk also keeps this on the DL because he's an idol and the company still has influence over him, jay park didn't wild out with the cringey fuckboy tattoos and pics until he left the company
is he the first currently promoting idol to have hand tattoos? im surprised BH let it fly, considering korea's pretty conservative view on tattoos in general
but i agree, he didn't have a childhood and is definitely going through the eboy/sadboy phase right now
No. 88276
>>88259For Jimin, its the racist stuff he's done : japan atomic bombing tshirt and calling jungkook a nigger. (They could reveal something about jimin's racist attitude that would tarnish their ~woke~ image that ratmies somehow believe) . For V, he's been caught smoking a juul (in which rats say is "actually" a "crayon holder" kek) His persona's changed drastically as well. I'm just hoping there's a few milk from his new bitchy behavior towards fans.
On the other hand, Suga might have had a relationship with suran that bighit's covered. Him being a heavy drinker could possibly lead to some milk.
imo nobody cares about jin because hes boring and nobody cares about rm and jhope coz they're fug. then again all these are just assumptions and elaborated on what i think could be covered up for the three of them No. 88279
>>88275Didn't he do all of his tattoos on his 'vacation'
Bighit probably didn't even know about them until he got caught with his dick on tattoo girls ass. He seems very rebellious. Which is ridiculous for a grown ass man.
No. 88280
>>88275G-Dragon has hand tats, and I think a couple other YG artists do too.
Jungkook is a big YG fanboy, and his eboy phase is definitely heavily inspired by GD pre-army service.
No. 88287
>>88276i feel like suga and suran definitely had something going on, she was super salty about him collaborating with IU in a very petty almost ex-gf way
bighit definitely has the money right now to cover up scandals, but once their fame wanes and the older members go to the army im sure more stuff will come out
also army fans always talk about "clearing searches" on twitter, so they definitely have a hand in trying to bury rumors and stuff that come up too
No. 88288
>>88287They're trying to clear two searches right now lol ;
First is Jungkook club
second is Hoseok Juul
lmao, idk what the second one is about
No. 88295
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>>88285>Also looked like he did his eyes, his double eyelid was awkwardly bigger in the picture he posted with his new short hairhis eyelids look different sometimes, i think it's because he uses that tape
No. 88299
>>88298thats because bigbang debuted at a time where most boygroups did only cringy cute/boyfriend concepts.
Also i dont think bigbang was ever considered kpop in korea, like they were seen more as musicians. Its only the retarded international fans that thing any korean group is kpop.
No. 88300
>>88296i love how they probably did that entire segment solely so they could shill whatever yogurt sponsor they have
i love how shameless asian sponsorship is lmfao
apparently kris is supposed to be on this show too?
No. 88303
>>88297Ironically each of them make more money in a year than entire Exo combined. According to Forbes in 2017 (it's likely even more now) Luhan earned 33 million USD, Kris 23, Lay 15 and Tao 14…Exo isn't poor either but nowhere near that level. So I totally get why chinese kids want to debut in Korea only to go back to China within a year, especially variety shows in China pay supposedly 100 times as well as in Korea. That Gugudan girl nobody ever cared about is also ranking super high in Chuang.
>>88300Yeah, because the original mentor was outed as a cheater by his gf lol
No. 88311
>>88310i agree, I like NCT a good amount and have to admit they're not funny, they're all super awkward and have zero variety chops
Anytime they go on weekly idol or some other stupid show it's always a disaster because they're so awkward and the show just derails into uncomfortable aegyo overlapped with Mark's hysterical giggling
No. 88315
>>88313it's because they primarily promote in china, they're pretty much never allowed to promote in music shows in korea
and unfortunately in china they're not popular because SM's sister label isn't big in China, despite most people knowing they're under the SM flag.
it's really unfortunate to see, because the WAYV kids despite being from nepotist backgrounds actually are really funny on variety, but I wonder if that's just the editing and way chinese shows are structured
No. 88322
>>88319YG already has piss poor management, and this is their first "big" group, right? I'm sure it's going to be a whole mess especially since YG heavily favors one or two members, even in smaller groups
Half the group isn't even going to get lines honestly, it's going to be YG's version of the Mark&Taeyong show
No. 88327
>>88299Big Bang was literally formed by an idol show, made public friendly pop music their entire career, and had the idol management formula just like any other idol group. How is this basic ass pop song the work of a genius?
>>88320I too was also perplexed as to why Ikon failed and I think that this is due to the rise of BTS. Big Bang was regarded as senior idols by 2013, and they hardly released anything in comparison to BTS at that time, when you consider that Alive was in 2012 and Made came out in 2015. BTS had consistent comebacks which always centered around the artistry of the group (i.e, "legitimate" rap and Suga & RM's producing/composing abilities). That gap between 2013 to 2015 gave them enough time to create their image as humbled artists. Then the gap after Made (2016-) gave them an empty house to fill the shoes of the "Kings of Kpop" role that Big Bang had (with YT views and their crazy fans). Big Bang may have not been exiled by 2015-2016, but when they did come back, they had aged, and younger fans who found the artist BG image appealing would naturally gravitate towards newer groups (aka BTS). Why stan an older boy group when they only release stuff every 3 years (and are basically retired)? Big Bang did nothing for the next couple of years, but BTS was really lucky when BB went through the Burning Sun scandal and lost respect from the Korean population. Now they truly have no other BG on their 'level' of respect except maybe Seo Taeji & the Boys (for domestic popularity), but BTS's success is absolutely unheard of (Psy is regarded as a joke, fyi). This means that BTS will continue to be celebrated by the Korean GP as Big Bang was referred to as "Gods" for years, and that they will likely have to face similar scandals, especially something like the Burning Sun scandal, to be disavowed by the public.
No. 88333
>>88125>>88117>>88116what's with the photos
>>88205I started watching youth with you! I wasn't expecting to like it that much but I do. I like kun a lot, he seems like a kind person. I feel sorry for Lisa cause I get the feeling she has no idea what's going on half the time and just smiles blankly. Also Yu Shuxin is annoying as all hell.
No. 88335
>>88334same anon as
>>88331, I think Yuta is ok once in a while, but he does seem aloof most of the time and doesn't talk often. jungwoo is entertaining once in a blue moon (that nct red flag blue flag game bit he did made me laugh)
I do find the dream kids rather entertaining, but their humor is pretty slapstick and revolves around being super chaotic, but at least its still remotely entertaining to watch unlike 127
https://youtu.be/0jMd9sPtR3U No. 88340
>>88330>Don't just paste a low effort link. Post images, this is an imageboard(also along with the obvious twitterfags, whats up with posting an unrelated image with your post (see
>>88125 for example)? this is an imageboard but not every message has to have an image, lurk harder
also sorry for the plz spoonfeed meh but question for the anons who watch whatever show lisa is a mentor in: what language does she speak there? as far as i know she doesnt speak chinese, do the trainees understand english?
No. 88343
>>88336sorry–i meant
>>88311>>88340lisa primarily mentors in english from what i've seen, and talks in thai in her interview portions. i'm assuming they have translators on hand for the trainees as well
No. 88346
>>88298Oh sweet summer child… koreans are definetly not over GD, his limited edition nike sneakers sold out in seconds, his cf with some beverage was a hit etc etc one he releases something they'll eat it up regardless how much shit netizens talk about him in comments section.
>>88302Dont think they particularly fucked vut iirc both girls were major koreaboos that's why they recognized him in the first place. The thotiest cow even dated a korean dude lol
>>88319What do u mean no groups lile bigbang? Idk about their new flop group of uggos but winner and ikon are literally walmart bigbang??? Song Mino is basically popular on the principle of being GDs xerox
>>88327I second
>>88329. Koreans dont even like bts they just show some "respect" for patriotic reasons. They're like "its cool that theyre popular in the US but why tho". BTS barely breakthrough the idol niche, uncle and aunts cant tell the members name like they did with Bigbang and SNSD, they barely have a hit attached to their name etc etc
No. 88350
>>88302If you think for a second slimy, drunk fuckboy jimin didn't at least get a handy from le big tits then you are sadly mistaken.. and delusional.
>>88309Uh no… salty underage fans think he's a 25 year old virgin. Please don't live in outer space your entire life.
No. 88352
>>88310I don't understand why they push the funny concept so much, just because BTS had success acting like on speed?
NCT Dream and WayV are loud and "dorky" to appeal to teens, NCT 127 could just say Hey we're the mature ones, we don't do that, we just sing, dance and talk. No big deal, not everybody has to be a "crackhead".
>>88315That's unfortunate. But if this is the case, why are the Exo and the ex Exo members so popular in China? (I recently looked that up, they each have 50+ million followers on weibo) or for example Yoona as well? When even idols from korean nugu groups hit it big there, one would think that success as an SM group is a given.
No. 88354
>>88181Irene's face is so boring to look at, she's probably the blandest visual.
Even Yoona's face has more charm than hers.
No. 88365
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>>88359he’s the lee sooman of jpop, except he started his company when lsm was still a teenager. johnny made some of the most popular/successful male jpop solos/groups. kpop is heavily influenced by the trainee system that he used and the music his idols made. i mean sm rookies is a direct rip off of johnnys juniors and smtown live is like johnny’s summary. kpop wouldn’t be the way it is today without having his ideas to rip off. he was a major pedo with so many abuse claims against him from back in the 80s to his death last year. never served any time for it either even though the courts ruled that the
victims testimonies were legit.
No. 88378
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>>88376it's definitely super similar, i wonder if he's just dense or just doesn't give a shit anymore
he's also in the scandal about the itawon bars, knetz seem to be swirling about the rumors and demanding BH provide a clarification, so they probably cant just sweep it under the rug like they hoped
considering how they destroyed gyuri and mino and how bad the outbreak turned out to be, hiding it probably will make it worse
No. 88385
>>88380apparently ratmy fans are trying hard to bury rumors by reporting every post that mentions it and clearing searches
theyre also trying to say that there's no pictures so it's a fake rumor, i can't wait until pictures actually leak if its true and they have to spin and pretend it's faked/jk is an uwu baby who doesn't go out ever
when will these fans just admit their oppars aren't perfect baby dolls that need to be protected and need to own up to their shit if they do stuff that isn't right lol
No. 88395
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>>88383no anon can’t you see he’s “insanely talented”
No. 88403
>>88400>Its obvious he was there. how so? i'm not trying to defend him, but i'm curious about how this rumor started. there's no pics. what's the source?
we know jimin was clubbing because there was videos of him
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I saw the koreans posting about it the weekend it happened. I saved the video too in which he was supposed to appear. Ratmys made the original local go private on insta. The caption says Bangtan Jungkook is here btw
No. 88407
>>88397why link the video without any commentary- this isn't OneHallyu, yk.
i'm tired of these "wannabe boss bitch mixed with generic aesthetic sets" girl group music videos. this song sounds just as basic too- but ig expected from the group that comes from Chungha's company iirc
No. 88408
>>88402it's bad because korea is barely recovering from the COVID situation, and despite the bars technically being open people should know better than to go out
this only got worse because a big COVID breakout happened after a bunch of people went to the bars, so SK is on edge
No. 88410
>>88404Anon this is amazing. But if you have the video why post screenshot instead of it?
>>88376What is it with Jungkook and scandals? Is he over it and trying to end his career? BH can't afford to pay off people anymore? Someone in the industry wants to destroy BH's cashcow? Or maybe he is, in fact, retarded?
>>88378This is so ugly. How can stans unironically call this a masterpiece and say "his art goes beyond imagination". This is why art history should be mandatory.
No. 88412
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Alright this is the milk
No. 88426
Who would've thought "golden maknae" would be the groups trouble maker. He seems to go out to drink a lot. I honestly believe his car accident was a dui.
Looks like this dating rumor may have been true
https://twitter.com/mazedbybts/status/1260614126327431169?s=19 No. 88432
>>88426It was posted here as well
>>88376 >>88378 Still, wonders never cease and this has all been very hilarious.
No. 88437
>>88405He doesnt actually appear tho, it's just a guy in the corner that could ve him judging by the clothes only since there's no face
I can upload it anyways just need a website i can easily drop anonymously, no sign up necessary
It's a Jack Daniel's bar btw, there's one in my city too. Basically the opposite of being a gay bar (annoying straight dudes attendance), RIP shippers.
No. 88451
all of this happening reminds me of jungkook's song. it isn't the most complex composition though, it's just a pop song. he's frustrated about not being able to have a normal life like his friends. also possibly about not being able to be with his lover (i can't hold ya)?
but at the end it changes and basically it says he's going to go his way even "if it's opposite of sun" (idol life?) and then:
>yes i will touch ya in conclusion: he's going to to do whatever he wants now, expect more milk in the future
https://genius.com/amp/Genius-english-translations-bts-my-time-english-translation-lyrics>inb4 imageboard No. 88456
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I'm a dumb bitch so had to convert to gif to post here so please forgive me
But here's the junglebook video in Jack's Bar. Please notice his eboy fit on your left.
No. 88462
>>88460i thought he wasn't in the video, i thought the video was supposed to be someone filming while the bouncer says something along the lines of "jk is coming"
i dont doubt he probably went clubbing during this entire COVID debacle just because there are so many news sites picking up on this and BH is way too quiet, but this video shows nothing lol
BH isnt known for saying stuff usually, but with the delicacy of the situation and lack of evidence if it didn't happen it would've been very easy for them to say "no he was at home" or something
No. 88467
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>>88459Ok ratmy
A totally random adult person would post a video with the caption jungkook is here because of reasons
>>88460Yes it would be the 0.3 sec arm kek I think they were trying to casually get him on camera, the girl trying to act naturally and all that
Also idk why people are saying this dude was the club bouncer? I saw his insta on that weekend before he went private and he seemed like a normal client rather than staff. No pictures or stories of him working in a nightclub. Screenshot of his latest pics attached.
No. 88471
>>88466the thing is he's a celebrity, and whether you like it or not and whether it's right or not they're held at a different standard
when you're raking in millions dancing around for rabid fans you also lose the luxury of dating privately, going to bars, and getting tattoos without having every move scruitinized
no one here is saying he shouldnt be able to do those things, we're just pointing out how shit it is for his image because he's going to get skewered by the public for doing so, and how insane the bts ratmy fanbase is for trying to "protect an uwu innocent baby maknae" from the consequences of his own actions
No. 88479
Who the fuck posted this thread on twitter again
Fucking jkfags coming hur dur theres no proof hes innocent
>>88462>>88474>>88459Are you all clinically retarded?? Read the previous replies ffs anon posted the caption that came with the video. The video per se obviously isnt proof of anything, anon is just providing the full post that gave us the milk. Geez.
No. 88481
>>88479Bitch I hate JK.
Two people saying that jk is at a bar does not mean it's proof. Dumbass. Where are the pics? In all of Itaewon NO ONE took a pic (besides the three people that tried to take a video of him according to you) I want the milk.. not hearsay. also fuck off.
No. 88486
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I wonder how much SM is making off these virtual concerts, they just announced TVXQ is doing a beyond live as well
Have they even released any new music in the past year? I know Changmin did something solo recently but it wasn't very good from what I remember
SM usually thrives off of concert sales, so I wonder if they're churning all these concerts out because they're hurting for money
No. 88488
>>88481I mean people in LA don't take pics of celebs every time they spot them. Most celebs that are papped are actually paying for it for PR purposes too. So if it's like this in fucking TMZ Murica imagine in South Korea?? This is the country where celebs stay married in secret for years. And idols are like lower tier celebs, so you really think ut's far fetched to believe normal people wouldn't be dying to take a picture of him? Nah they can pretty much leave the house without much hassle. We would have much more scandals otherwise or do you think they all don't ever go outside? Lol
Mino was caught because 1) dispatch isnt on YG payroll 2) he was bringing attention to himself 3) he's a tad more known to the gp since he does a lot of variety and is discount GD
No. 88491
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>>88488mino was "caught" because it was a private party and someone at the party leaked the photos. I agree, the general public who sees a celebrity probably isn't dying to take pictures of them in a bar and sell it to a tabloid magazine.
No. 88495
>>88494Are you people not reading before you post?
There was an outbreak of corona in itaewon and then jks dumbass went out barhopping there. That's the milk.
No. 88501
>>88498the video wasn't me. In fact I'm the anon that video anon was fighting about. I said it wasn't proof first..
The outbreak in Itaewon is fact. SO.
No. 88506
>>88502Yeah I know that. Many people don't know that. It's been spread everywhere that it was a gay bar. Irrational people still think it's a gay bar.
>>88504Bitch I know.. I am the one that said he probably wasn't out because there is no proof.
>>88505An easily manipulated screenshot isn't proof lmao
No. 88507
>>88503cute, i dont even like bts and i wish you all would shut up about them and shit up this thread with non-milk because you all want them to still be relevant.
also next time sage your shit.
No. 88513
>>88495Well no one is actually being critical about that but making a fuss over zero proof (no, i'm not going to believe some ig dms after the same person said jungkook wasn't there, then surprisingly conffirmed it -maybe because it will bring them publicity?- and then said they didn't want the chats going public and wanted to shut down the whole conversation) of these dudes in bar (are y'all forgetting that eunwoo was also there or..) and this anon is right
>>88466 so what's the deal? seriously, it's boring I found that video of the spanish dude more interesting
No. 88519
>>88479So it's okay for smfags not to hide their powerlevels but ratmies are shameless for daring talking about their oppars even in a neutral way? lmao
>inb4 filthy ratmyi'm a bored ex-kpopfag whos here mostly for milk
No. 88535
>>88530original poster of the zombie mv here, i like "love me or leave me" a lot, but it loses the rocker/band vibe and feels more like an idol band b-side, but it's still really good
i think my favorite song off their new album is "Stop", it has that garage/UK rock vibe to it and i dig it
No. 88536
>>88535i have never listened to day6 before idk why, but honestly these few songs you posted hooked me, and i listened to other ones and theyre actually really good.
i used to be a ftisland fag and ngl i recently started to miss them and their sound, and day6 kind of remind me of them.
so thank you anon!
No. 88538
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>>88524God I had to go into the depths of korean stan twitter but this were the first dms that they posted
No. 88542
>>88536i strongly recommend the real by n.flying too
>>88539good taste anon
they're my ults
No. 88547
>>88542out of all the bands currently n.flying and day6 are my absolute favorites. sweet chaos reminds me the most of a garage rock style, almost like older arctic monkey's stuff.
i also really, really liked drug restaurant (JJY's old band), but I can't listen to their music anymore without thinking of that stupid asshole
No. 88549
>>88542>>88539i used to be SUCH a protective FTI stan that for years i refused to listen to other "idol bands" because to me they were the OG. it's refreshing to mature to say the least lmao.
n.flying are really good too! the real is already my favorite song by them.
thank you so much anons!
No. 88551
>>88549i perfectly understand what you mean tbh i used to be a very hardcore army 2 years ago (embarrassing) and had that weird cultist mentality that i'm not allowed to like other bands and need to devote all my love and support to bts or i'm "fake"
a perfect example is how armys always bash on mutlifandom fans for not licking bts' ass 24/7 at any chance they get and then accuse them of "throwing bts under the bus
No. 88552
>>88450>>88449>>88446If Koreans don't care…why do you? I don't get international kpop fans who think they have a right to say who and who shouldn't be in an industry that isn't for them to begin with. There's been half black idols before, half white ones before, fully non-asian actors,models, idols before …who TF cares when kpop takes from African American culture and Japanese pop culture and then just does everything in Korean?
Some Koreans are xenophobic, some a neutral, some think it's cool and it's weird to speak like Koreans are a monolith or like any of your opinions on the topic matter in the first place. At the end of the day these kpop companies are the ones who decide.
Sometimes you guys sound like koreaboos that believe if they can't do it then nobody can. Or like you have yellow fever and don't want the Asian waifu/husbando fantasy broken.
No. 88553
>>88551i like bts and i trust armys a lot more if they are capable of liking girl groups/other groups too, some armys seem very
triggered by girl groups lmao its unhealthy tbh
No. 88558
>>88551oh for sure. even when FNC released the news about cnblue i was really upset because i thought they would forget about fti, which i mean they did give cnblue better opportunities but i digress. it's not cnblue's fault. same with n.flying, i just really didnt want fti to be left in the dark when they sort of paved the way for idol bands in my opinion. i'm still salty about a lot FNC did but it has nothing to do with the bands, and i feel awful now for thinking badly about them when they're just kids wanting to play and make music, just like fti.
i really thought i had to be 100% loyal to fti otherwise i would be a bad fan as well. it's such a pathetic mentality and very much had to do with me being young i think, when fti debuted i was 16 years old. i feel like the hardcore army stans must be around that age, at least i hope so because that would be… concerning.
No. 88559
>>88535>i like "love me or leave me" a lot, but it loses the rocker/band vibe and feels more like an idol band b-side, but it's still really goodthat is true, i felt the same about Day&Night.
i think stop is so good too! i'm the same anon who said earlier that day6 are the only kpop group/band that i truly enjoy every single song from and i still stand by that after their latest album release
No. 88563
>>88559yup, day6 is truly one of those "no skip" bands for me every time they release an album
i hope they all get better soon, i cant wait to see them perform again
No. 88565
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Watch our residents jkfags continuing to deny it while even kmedia is posting blind items about it
https://n.news.naver.com/entertain/article/382/0000819756?lfrom=twitter No. 88570
>>88564same nflying/day6 fag that's been commenting, i love the nflying anime medley, but that's probably because im a huge nflying fan and also a big weeb
are there any other bands who've covered anime songs? i can't think of any other groups who have
No. 88573
>>88566>that's why he's like this!1!!!1!!!he went to a fucking bar he didnt kill a man
and he WASNT able to live his youth like most child stars
No. 88575
>>88573i mean if he was out clubbing at a normal time it wouldn't make the news, even if he was screwing around with women (like jimin, it didn't make the news and only ratmy fans seemed to care)
the issue is that the world is in a pandemic state, and going out during this time is grossly irresponsible. you can argue that "well the government is to blame because they let the bars open, it's not his fault!" but celebrities are held to a different standard
not to mention the itaewon bar crawls that happened sparked another wave of covid, so it's not a surprise knets are mad
but like many anons said before, theres no concrete evidence and its all speculative, can we please move on
No. 88580
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>>88397I kinda like it. I think it's better than their previous releases which isnt much considering the rest of their discography is mostly inoffensive and kinda bland. I wish they had better music, itd be nice to have a gg without forced high pitched vocals and no shitty "rapper"
Tbh I mostly know them as that one group with that really skinny girl. Humour me anons, do you really think that she's just naturally skinny? her names seungeun btw
No. 88582
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>>88580googled her and this article came up.
https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/04/bvndits-maknae-seungeun-is-earning-mad-respect-from-netizens-with-her-chiseled-arm-leg-muscleshonestly it seems like she works out A LOT, not in a healthy way tho. she's not scarily skelly like hitomi but she literally has 0% body fat so i dont know…
No. 88587
>>88365You can also say the same about the 90s bubblegum pop "idol" industry in the US. Lou Pearlman, the creator of NSync and the Backstreet Boys, was also a pedophile. Child actors in the West are commonly molested by adults in the acting industry. I wonder if the same pedophile ring that exists in the US has ties to K-media.
>>88426>>88480His gf is hella ugly. He must be into fakebois or a closeted gay.
>>88445He's a white dude–what do you expect? I'm honestly very surprised that it's taken this long for a white male to have a bitchfit about not being able to become a kpop idol.
>>88580>>88582No, this is not 'naturally skinny'. This is called "on the brink of death anachan". I can confirm as I am a former anachan.
No. 88594
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I think we can all agree this is the best kpop album of all time
No. 88597
>>88594more like most overrated imo. sure, cry about how f(x) never got comebacks, but their music isn't for everyone and aged pretty bad like most early 10s k-pop. this album is always said to be one of the best, but i barely remember a single song from that album. four walls was a better album, but certainly not the best in k-pop. i'll admit most of f(x)'s discography is better than most girl groups now and from back then.
my personal top three of just idol music would be:
SHINee's Odd
Seventeen's An Ode
Wonder Girls' Reboot
No. 88599
>>88596wow, that's a good amount more than i thought, I feel like the dream concert and subsequent 127 ones probably will generate more than the superm concert
i wonder which profit sharing structure these concerts fall under for the artists, there's no way SM is going to give them the 20/80 overseas touring cut lol
either way they're all making a pretty penny for these things, no wonder SM is going to try to milk the TVXQ one. I'm surprised they havent announced an EXO or Red Velvet one
No. 88611
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So I saw some noise on twitter about NCT Jaemin using the korean equivalent of "retarded" to describe Haechan and now international fans are demanding him apologize/SM say something lol
It seems to be getting mild traction in Korea on Nate but the comments all seem rather mild, ofc its the i-fans who don't understand korean culture making a big fuss
I-fans are giving instructions on how to email SM so they can "educate" them on how this is an ableist slur and it's not acceptable….meanwhile Korea is kind of just seeing this as a swearing controversy/not taking it super seriously
No. 88622
>>88620yeah the tweet i linked is the dream translator who went on break, it's mainly her tweet that is garnering traction internationally.
the word he used in korea is a pretty common word that people use day to day, I'm korean (although my korean is god awful because raised in the US kek) and i've definitely heard my cousins use it when I went home, it seems pretty on brand for a 19/20 year old to say, especially since it's a pretty common word in gaming circles
He probably shouldn't have said it on live radio though, but jaemin isn't exactly known for his intelligence…
Which youtuber are you talking about anon?
No. 88625
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>>88595yeah she got posted here before and the pic was honestly scary. (pic related)
I hope shes keeping her health under control. Shes pretty young, I think shes a 2000s liner
No. 88629
>>88627i mean no notable examples stand out to me, but if you just watch him on shows and stuff you can tell he's very much a "top of the bell curve" kind of guy, maybe not just completely stupid like lucas, but definitely not super intelligent either
i do remember some interview where he said his mom told him to take the SM audition he was offered because he wasn't good at school, so there's that…
No. 88632
>>88631yup, the sjw twitter is now derailing this into a bullying thing as well, saying nct dream probably bullies haechan behind the scenes etc. as if he isn't the one member who dishes it out the most lmfao
either way the article's already fallen off nate's trending so i highly doubt it'll turn into a controversy in korea, the sjw can froth at the mouth here but once their oppa posts a cute selfie all will be forgiven
honestly i hate how i-fans always try to insert their thoughts into stuff like this and make things worse….what he said is totally something a 20-something would say to his friends, i'm sure they've said worse. his only problem was forgetting the camera was on, but it could easily have been edited out so it seems SM's editing team didn't think much of it either
No. 88638
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Wendy and Zico apparently are collaborating on a song? I'm happy to see Wendy's recovered enough to start returning to work, but not going to lie I'm disappointed people are still working with homophobic, rapist-defending Zico…gross
There's so many other rapper and producers out there that these singers can work with, and they keep choosing Zico because it's trendy and it makes me side eye them pretty hard
Apparently the song is for the trainwreck of a drama "The King". I don't know if anyone's watched it, but it's so bad LOL
No. 88641
>>88639come on man…that's fucked up to say, she literally just recovered from a really nasty injury and you're wishing more harm on her because she's collaborating with someone you don't like?
i'm the original op who posted the wendy zico news and I'm not super excited about the collab, but i'd never wish for her to get injured again over something like that
No. 88654
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>>88650agreed…im sure chungha doesnt have full creative control over her stuff, but her most recent mv with the male heeled dancers just feels like pandering/disingenuous especially after she's collaborated with zico
if she's trying to keep up this "woke queen" image, she really shouldn't be associating with a guy who's connected with convicted rapists and literally tried to out and make fun of his own bandmate on live tv
No. 88658
>>88656i mentioned this in a previous thread, but here is the video (starts around 4:50)
basically he mentions that another member confessed to him, and then makes fun of him saying "do you really love me as a man" and literally mentioning "coming out" while all the other members laugh and the guy he's talking to looks visibly uncomfortable, until another member who looks disgusted steps in and changes the subject
it's pretty telling honestly, and they probably weren't joking around based on how direct he was and how uncomfortable the other guy got
this was honestly enough for me to never want to listen to his music again, he is such a POS and i'm surprised people haven't cancelled him yet
No. 88661
>>88658The kpop fandom is a master at cancelling idols but they never do it to the ones who really
should be cancelled. Disappointed but not surprised.
No. 88662
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Suho enlists today - and of course Korean fans edit Chen out lol
No. 88670
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>>88580nope not natural (pic related). she looks too muscly with not enough fat now. she’ll definitely start getting fillers soon and look like an egg.
>>88665it’s honestly not even knet behavior. it’s delusional exols who thought they had a chance with him. from what i’ve seen outside of exols most people don’t really care. and to think that most exols are in their 20s… so childish and cringey.
No. 88674
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being skinny only looks good on korean girls(ban evading anachan)
No. 88700
>>88697i saw news about that too, stans are so stupid. if he actually has a family history of mental slowness/disabilities it just makes everything way worse
this started internationally but it seems its getting bad in SK, SM is having a nightmare with this Dream comeback
No. 88703
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we love a woke king
No. 88708
>>88703this is so funny to me, it feels like the stylist just pulled trendy sjw buzzwords and just pinned it to his shirt without any thought for how it would look just to get "woke brownie points"
bts stylists truly are a different league kek
No. 88714
>>88705Lmao I just checked and ratmys are really already trying to do damage control
>delete>he doesn't know what radical feminism means, otherwise he obviously wouldn't have worn it, he would never exclude anybody, he loves trans womenz and sex workers!>jimin would beat you terfs!Others say that radfems being trans exlusionary is only a white thing, so him wearing it as a korean person is actually good. Because of course little Jiminnie will be always given the benefit of the doubt.
How can you be so sure that you know his views? The average korean man is anti gay and anti trans and the average korean radfem is a terf, so…
Now it's up to sjw fakebois and kpoppies to get "jimin terf" trending kek
No. 88716
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lmao
No. 88717
>>88714oh jeez, i wonder what it's like to be a rabid ratmy spending every day frantically typing the same words into twitter/google over and over again to clear searches for someone who won't even look at you twice
honestly i dont get why these idols just stick to singing and dancing, they make enough money just looking pretty, i dont get the obsession with seeming woke and getting into controversies because they all have a middle school education and dont understand what they're getting themselves into
No. 88721
>>88718it's literally because even RM has the english capabilities of a middle schooler at best, not to mention none of them finished HS let alone went to college, so their view of "wokeness" is whatever they see at face value on twitter etc
im sure jimin was patting himself on the back thinking like "wow my fat ratmy international fans are going to love this feminism is super hot rn" without even considering the implications of plastering something like this on himself
ofc im sure rabid sjw fans were waiting to jump down his throat for something like this, but he literally gave them rope to hang him with. like i said, i dont get why these guys dont just shut the hell up and not give fans fuel to burn them with
No. 88725
>>88611>r* ableist slurWesterns are so fucking embarrassing. Who cares if he said the word retarded or something similar to it.
>>88638Why the hell is Zico not in prison though? that's disgusting
No. 88727
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>>88703Hey remember when men burnt Irene photographs because she read a feminist book? When Suzy got heat when she supported a feminist movie? When Naeun had to delete a photo, because her phone case had 'Girls Can Do Anything' on it? I await the general public's witch hunt of Jimin.
(Seriously though the fact that no celebrity in SK can outright say they're a feminist is sickening)
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>>88725honestly fans are trying to bury it and its baffling because they're just making it worse, when i watched the video i literally heard "retard" instead of "very cool" which is what they're trying to say he said, the subs even use the word "dumb"…
kfans are trying to pretend its a super easy mispronunciation but anyone who natively speaks korean knows it wasn't. i'm half korean, and even though my korean is the level of a fucking elementary school student I knew it wasn't a mispronunciation, the guy doesn't have a speech impediment
a comparison to this would be saying like….fork instead of pork. it's not a mistake a native speaker would make, if chenle did it i would be more inclined to say it was actually a mistake, not to mention this is a super common slang word that teenagers use nowadays. (funny enough, an actual mispronounciation would be jisung in the same video saying "jira" which sounds like "jiral" which means bullshit–that's more like saying fuck when you meant fork)
i dont get why ifans are blowing it up to such a degree, korean native fans literally did not care, but now it's been blown so out of proportion it's actually a problem now
either way the guy should just own up and apologize, the fans that matter really dont care at all anyways
No. 88733
>>88730yup, it's just stupid because he probably wore the shirt expecting tons of wokeboy brownie points and is getting skewered because he's stupid
he didn't do anything wrong, it's just disingenuous and funny how he brought this onto himself because he doesn't have a brain
No. 88734
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we love a woke group
No. 88742
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>>88633NTA but I found this thread about the Jaemin Youtuber thing. Apparently, he kept on saying the catchphrase of this Youtuber involved in molka stuff. You can find vids in this thread and a summary of the entire thing. There are a bunch of dudes saying that it's been all debunked and are linking another thread but others are saying that it doesn't really explain the whole catchphrase thing. Source:
https://twitter.com/meiqifleur/status/1260758985684082693I also saw a screenshot about Jaemin allegedly joking about Chenle "coming out" when he took his cap off but I haven't checked for an actual video or anything.
No. 88745
>>88742i scanned the thread, my korean isnt great (its actually fucking awful) and some of it does seem shady
him saying "hello" in the same tone as the youtuber is a bit of a stretch, since he literally always talks like that but the kimochi bit is a little more side-eye worthy, especially if he actually was the person who wrote it
for context, kimochii is sometime that's pretty prevalent in hentai and it means "feels good" in its core but it's definitely not something a normal korean person would say, it is very popular among the edgy alt right streamer/bj community and definitely has pervy/misogynistic undertones to it. it isn't a word a normal korean person would pick up unless they watch a ton of porn (which is entirely possible, but why are you fucking writing it on a table) or watch the streamers (again, why are you writing it on a table)??
basically it all boils down to jaemin not having a brain and being a stupid teenager with his stupid friends on tv
im a big fan of dream, but my god these kids have been making me cringe a lot recently
No. 88751
>>88749come on, i'm sure SM didn't choose him to be an idol because of his strong moral compass lol
sjw can scream and cry all day about how their oppas need to be woke but will still support them because they're pretty and they "will change!"
kpop companies will never do what ifans want and "educate their employees" because they know the bulk of fans don't actually care and there's no money to be made from doing so
No. 88756
>>88748i dont think either of those anons were defending jimin LOL
BTS is super into portraying the "woke image" and their ratmy fanbase always tries to push it as well, but like you said remain quiet when the rapline obviously is close to
problematic people like their producer SupremeBoi who's been repeatedly shown as a misogynistic rapist-defending POS
I honestly don't get why fans insist on putting their idols on some "woke/social justice" pedestal when they're just dancing entertaiment monkeys like the rest of the entertainment industry
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>>88761man i remember when BTS gave some stupid speech at a UN seminar and ratmy's were sperging about how RM should run for president after he's done with BTS
like these people are so delusional that they think an idol who doesn't even have a hs background should be giving input on world issues and running a country because he read a canned speech at some event
No. 88768
>>88734>>88703Fucking based kek
trigger all the tranny loving whores I stan
No. 88771
>>88770you do get new people in here you know. Not everyone has read all of the threads.
There are many other kpop idols that are way hotter so it's confusing how bts has gotten so big. They're all average to ugly.
No. 88772
>>88765i think the jungkook thing they posted yesterday was a mistake, they probably didnt realize that jk was stupid enough to draw his gf/ex gf's stuff on tv
the jimin thing was definitely an attempt at seeming woke, a stylist probably dressed them in those awful outfits and thought "wow theyre gonna seem so intelligent and worldly bc feminism"
either way BH needs to hire new PR people because this aint it
No. 88781
>>88778singing is and always has been an afterthought for BTS. nobody's main skill is singing. rat and suga rap, j-hope and jimin are there for dancing, v and jin are there to be 'visuals', and jungkook is meant to be a jack of all trades so he's centre. that's why they don't really have a star vocalist. it got forgotten since they were going to be a 'hip hop' group anyway.
try and change my mind, you won't manage it
No. 88782
>>88772do people actually think jimin is a fan of like germaine greer based off of this
>>88777imo his voice was not that bad but years of being overworked has taken its toll on him hence why any live vocal performance of his sounds like that. idk why he insists on doing those high notes in concerts all the time if he's so insecure though. he clearly doesn't lack self awareness
No. 88784
>>88778Yet this is a
valid criticism due to the fact how lauded his vocal 'capabilities' are by ratmys.
No. 88790
Thread got invaded by twitter stans. Again. Someone do somthing.
Honestly, same. I don't understand.
>>88743 No. 88791
>>88742Does anyone know of the other supposedly racist/homophobic things Jeno and Jaemin are supposed to have said? I always had a feeling that Dream was going to be the ""
problematic"" NCT group given that they all debuted as teenagers, so I'm not really surprised this happened. As soon as I saw a video of them making fun of Jaemin and Haechan for being tanned, I pretty much knew it was going to be them.
On a side note, I really haven't seen NCT 127 make any of those sorts of jokes (minus Taeyong when he was 12 I guess) and I wonder if it's because SM is really trying to push them internationally so they have to be more "woke." I haven't really seen 127 do or say anything as edgy as Dream, but maybe they have said shit and I just haven't seen it yet.
No. 88795
>>88791i think jeno got some flack for possibly being a xenophobe, i can't find the video anymore but he got visibly annoyed at chenle trying to read a script in korean when it's obviously not his mother tongue
maybe calling him a xenophobe is going a bit far, but it definitely wasn't a good look especially on camera
ofc instead of saying anything SM just cut that part out of the video and reuploaded it, which is what I assume they'll do with jaemin's "scandal"
like you said, these kids all debuted super young so its not surprising they're all a bit immature and will likely have a slew of attitude scandals because they're stuck in a teenager mindset and are being filmed all the time
No. 88798
>>88786they're all
problematic.
I find rm insufferable.
No. 88804
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>>88703>>88734god this is so dumb. kyungsoo wore a similar shirt before. its clearly some brand that decided to use probably popular words from the internet i doubt they give a shit about these topics
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>>88805i mean if you've ever downloaded the Snow app the default filter already lightens skin and smooths pores a ton, it's definitely a part of their culture to pretend they're lighter than they are
not to mention fansites deliberately will wash out idol skin when they upload pictures, most asians are not that pale.
No. 88809
>>88808definitely, the app default will lighten skin and blur wrinkles and pores, and slightly enlarge eyes.
the cartoon filters make things even more exaggerated and will shorten chins, plump cheeks etc so that's why 28 year olds look like they're 18
No. 88816
>>88814i mean his competition for main vocal isn't very big, considering jhope/rm/suga/jin literally can barely hold a note, and jimin/v are marginal singers
honestly im still baffled to how they got so big…i still stand by the idea that if BAP didn't have such shit management they would've taken the BTS spot.
BTS's success primarily came from luck and timing, and their biggest competitor at the time was EXO and BAP
No. 88817
>>88786I agree with you, look at how he even treat his teammates. He crosses boundaries with them so many times and you can tell they want to slap the shit out of him, if they weren't in public.
also hate it when ratmies scream at his questionable actions "omg such a slytherin
No. 88822
>>88818me too, i feel like he has a nice speaking voice, and if he learned to be less breathy and sing with his natural register instead of forcing the indiegirl rasp he wouldn't sound as grating as he does
>>88819if anything it's also me looking at BAP through rose tinted glasses, but I feel BYG did come up with actual "woke" lyrics like BTS is trying to do (or as woke as an idol group can get) and their two main vocalists actually could sing and had good voices, and they had that underdog vibe that BTS rode the wave on for so long
EXO is also good, but they got hit with so many member leaving scandals that I feel they lost the steam they were gaining too many times, BTS truly just got super lucky and made it big
No. 88826
>>88823lmfao, wasn't he born in 1992? I thought he had to enlist this year. I would say Suga would go as well, he's almost the same age as Jin and they're at the end of the approved delay time
I still remember when ratmys were trying to say BTS should get special exemptions because they brought so much cultural influence to the world…like come on
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>>88831supremeboi is a bighit producer who works pretty often with BTS, he apparently was supposed to be a part of the original BTS lineup when they were going more towards a rap route and not the traditional idol route. he's close friends with suga and RM as well as jhope, despite fans trying to deny that he is
he's
problematic because he's written lyrics about rape fantasies (roll by iron) and also is a friend and supporter of the rapper iron, who was convicted of sexually assaulting and beating his then girlfriend.
i believe he also slutshamed some model publicly, overall just a gross skeevy dude who's still somehow employed by BH and close friends with the BTS crew
as they say, birds of a feather….for how "woke" BTS tries to portray themselves, associating and working closely with a misogynistic rape-apologist is not the way to go about it
No. 88841
>>88813not to mention jaw shaves and cheek filler
>>88826lmao so much cultural influence but most people think behind the scenes and back to school when they see bts
>>88834then leave lmao. mods will probably get sick of kpop threads clogging /m/ and ban them anyways
No. 88848
>>88591bitch
>>88824I'm so ready for some BTS members to enlist. Hopefully that will spell the beginning of the end for them and their faces will gradually vanish from my social media timelines. Also, I'm interested to see how their brainwashed followers react to it.
No. 88868
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>>88791Not sure if these count but I did see this thread:
https://twitter.com/eyebrowgel/status/1261042143742705664Some of them seem like a reach but I guess it counts.
For 127, Jungwoo seems to be involved with youtuber stuff like Jaemin too. Only thing I saw was this thread claiming to debunk it but you can probably find more evidence if you lurk some more:
https://twitter.com/x1seunghun/status/1246229052299644934 No. 88869
>>88868i honestly dont think styling/hairstyle issues should be placed heavily on the artist, since their physical hairstyles etc are determined by the company
however, the multiple "dark skin" jokes are not cute…asia and korea in particular already has a huge issue with whitewashing/putting pale skin on a pedestal, and idols using darker skin as a negative/teasing point really doesn't make the situation better
the thing is these idols literally dont give a shit, they know their rabid fanbase will support them through pretty much everything except a dating scandal, so they never feel a desire to educate themselves or change.
look at all the idols who've actually been "cancelled" by their fans–chen and sungmin are the only two who have rabid fangirls truly petitioning for them to leave the group, etc while actual shitheads like yoochun and kim hyun joong still can hold fanmeets and stuff despite raping and beating women
No. 88875
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>>88868>"he said kazoku not gajoku!"Lol why would Jungwoo randomly speak japanese in a bts for a korean mv? What a load of bull
No. 88878
>>88869Also why would they even care about stuff that is mostly western sensitivities, most of these guys don't even speak english, their main market is east asia which genuinely also doesn't give a flying fuck about all this stuff.
Honestly all of this just speaks volumes of western fan's entitlement.
No. 88880
>>88875lmfao thats the similar excuse people were using for jaemin's issue, saying it was a mispronounciation/misinterpretation when any person who even speaks a lick of korean knows it wasn't
i mean even if you watch the video, they're very different words, it's not like he didn't enunciate the last part correctly or something, it's a completely different sound
meanwhile everyone who's cancelling him and also trying to cover for him are just two sides of the international fan cesspool…neither of which really understands the situation
korean fans literally dont give two shits and i doubt SM does either
not to mention fans are trying to cancel dream over this while also trending #protecttaeyong as if he hasn't been proved to be a bully and likely also said this word in a hurtful way to
victims lol
international/western sjw fans are such a joke
No. 88884
>>88832I knew he worked closely with both Suga and Ratmon, but I didnt know he was actually employed by Bighit? He did the cypher song was them and that's all I knew from him. It seems like Korea and idol industry is filled with extremely
problematic men who dont apologise for being shit towards women.
No. 88886
>>88884unless he left very recently, he still is with bighit. i believe he had a hand in writing dionysus off their newest album and a couple of other songs, and he definitely assisted heavily with production on the back end
if you google any of their albums and look at the writing credits, he's in at least 1/3 of them
No. 88897
>>88791 aside from taeyong i don't recall any of the 127 members being
problematic except for a few instances, like jaehyun mouthing the n word or a few of them laughing at yuta's story of being hit by his dad as a child. they're all pretty boring imo and they come across as fake (their personalities, their "friendships," etc). wayv seem to be the only unit that genuinely enjoys each other's company but the way they insult and make fun of each other makes me believe they're just all mean like that (sans a few members…)
No. 88899
>>88896the korean callout is a very small minority, the general korean population does not care at all
the post on nate hit top 10 for maybe 30 minutes, the very vocal minority echoing international sjw sentiment are primarily anti-fan accounts and sensitive sjw fans
im not defending him, he's a fucking idiot for not watching his mouth knowing that he's being filmed, but its getting heavily exaggerated
it's just baffling to see all these people freaking out and cancelling him over a very westernized opinion (right or wrong) on how to treat ableism, not to mention a lot of these fans also support people like taeyong who are arguably more
problematiclike these stans need to make up their mind, either cancel everyone for being idiots who can't watch their mouths and are probably little shits behind the scenes, but dont cherry pick and become holier-than-thou over certain things and pretend others didn't happen
my entire tl is clogged with people cancelling this band, and a bunch of them have taeyong profile pictures like….??? what??
No. 88906
>>88903it's definitely a combination of fame getting to their heads, and probably more fans watching their moves and looking for stuff to point out
as sad as it sounds, the less favored members probably don't even have fans or antifans that give a shit about what they do, so they usually slide under the radar
like taeil and yuta's behavior with winwin was honestly fucking weird as hell and winwin was very visibly uncomfortable but barely anyone pointed it out because no one cares about them
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>>88908i think it was just over the top fanservice, but you could tell winwin definitely did not enjoy being touched and grabbed at. i honestly think the way 127 treated winwin as a whole was weird, they literally babied him to the max and almost treated him as a doll instead of an adult human
chinese culture is different than korean culture, it's definitely not as normal for dudes to be handsy with each other
yuta and taeil were the worst with grabbing at him etc., whether it was directed by SM or just came because they liked him, it still became very over the top because winwin had voiced several times he didn't like it. you can see a bit of this in the nct life osaka episode 7, where taeil and winwin are in the ferris wheel and taeil asks if winwin is still angry at him over taeil touching/bothering winwin off camera, and winwin directly says "i'd like you more if you stopped doing that to me"
here's a tweet showing a clip of taeil literally trying to kiss winwin in the background while winwin is furiously trying to push him off, it doesn't even look like play fighting anymore, winwin legitimately looks like he's fighting to get taeil off him
https://mobile.twitter.com/winwinspics/status/1008299387401981952 No. 88914
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>>88912sorry, had to split up the yuta one since i wanted to post another picture but the yuta stuff feels more fanservice-y and less truly weird af
the one that stands out the most to me is yuta saying he likes to imagine female characters in anime as winwin…it seems kinda fanservice/gaybaity to me but it's still very weird and winwin kind of just stonefaces the entire interaction
basically if you watch a lot of the videos when winwin was still in 127, you can tell he didn't like getting treated like a fanservice doll
i really like him in wayv, he actually has a personality outside of the gaybait uwu baby and genuinely seems to enjoy being around his members, which is why im totally ok with him never rejoining 127
i think fanservice usually is harmless and idols play it up because it makes money, but when someone is visibly uncomfortable with it its just really weird and gross to watch
No. 88920
>>88914I mean if they are that desperate to do fanservice, do it with someone who is actually comfortable with it. Members like Johnny would eat that shit up. He likes the attention that he gets, negative or positive.
The whole situation with Winwin really made me feel bad for him. He seems like a lowkey guy, but they kept on using him for fanservice. Yikes.
No. 88925
>>88910>>88914Sorry but no. Winwin gets treated like an autistic toddler because he acts like one. He's weird looking, incredibly unfunny, his korean is pretty much non-existent, he can neither sing or dance well, he has zero lines for a reason, the least he can do is endure that. What else would he bring to the table? Yuta is doing him a favor, otherwise he wouldn't get any screentime at all. Plus everybody knows how common fanservice in kpop is, he signed up for that.
Winwin fans are so weird, they love him because he's a "
victim". If he suddenly acted normally and got more lines, they'd probably drop him because they'd be jobless since they'd no longer have anything to whine about lol
No. 88933
>>88929Then he either needs to quit or work extremely hard on improving himself (which he doesn't) so that he has other things to offer. You can't expect to get paid for doing nothing.
Stop acting as if he's getting raped, the others only try to be funny and to include him. All kpop groups do that. This massive overreaction (both yours and his) is the same situation with Jk grabbing Jaehyun's butt and NCT hags immediately screaming uwu he sexually assaulted our poor adult baby. It's literally not that deep bro
No. 88952
>>88933the yuta fanservice stuff is typical fanservice and i agree fans probably victimized it a bit far, but you have to agree taeil probably took it a bit too far considering winwin's been shown on camera literally saying "i don't like it please stop", not to mention other members literally calling out the fact that they fought off camera over it
i think if anything taeil just got too into it trying to get some camera time, fanservice aside a grown man should understand how to respect someone's private space lol
No. 88954
>>88945why do people think he has a dui? when he got into the accident, it was widely reported that he did take an alcohol blood test and he was not drunk. plus it was a freaking fender bender and he was going like 10 mph. tons of young people get into an accident like that at some point, it basically comes from inexperience. jk gets a gf, tattoos and goes clubbing and hes suddenly
problematic, it's genuinely the same logic crazy kfans use
No. 88955
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>>88952Poor Winwin, getting abused by his roommates joking around when he only wants to be on his phone 24/7, he totally should sue them for all the trauma they caused him…
No. 88957
>>88631you are fucking retards and need to hide your powerlevel for your flop group nct. They would have received the same reaction wherever they were 2nd gen or with mostly k-fans.
They're idols which means that they are expected by the general public to behave like they are innocent and perfect. Even exo who is 2nd gen a had a retard scandal in the past so this isnt a sjw scandal.
If your faves cant handle being idols then they should quit because they are known for their scandals in korea.
No. 88960
>>88957not
>>88631 but its more so ifans making a huge fuss over this shit while also being the same group defending their bully king taeyong and trending #protecttaeyong hashtags
i think theyre all fucking idiots and lets not lie, a lot of us follow groups like nct bc theyre a bunch of messy nepotist kids and the drama is fun to watch
you can think an idol is stupid and think they deserve shit, and also think the sjw community is overly sensitive and stupid af at the same time, it's not exclusive
at the end of the day these oppas can pretend theyre sad and regretful on camera but we all know they dont give a fuck once the cameras are off
No. 88964
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since this thread is getting kind of churned by nct/bts drama, did anyone see bp stans rented trucks to part in front of YG to protest the fact that BP hasn't gotten a comeback?
No. 88967
>>88965yeah, i think she recently said she tore a ligament so i feel like their comeback will probably be delayed since she's apparently in a cast and i cant see her practicing with an injury like that
if it was in the middle of promotions they could just plop her in a chair, but in preparation work they definitely cant just let her sit around and exclude her from the choreo
No. 88972
>>88969i mean it could be a DUI, or distracted driving, falling asleep, or he's just stupid
either way he did get into an accident, and if it was truly a DUI or him being dumb and texting, he deserves to get dragged for it.
if it honestly was just inexperienced driving or sheer stupidity, i feel like it's not as big of a deal because he is a newer driver, and how many of us haven't hit a curb or backed into a tree/rear ended someone while learning to drive?
we'll probably never know, but if it truly was a DUI there's no way he's not going to get into another one. Kangin was caught DUI-ing at least twice, people who drink and drive don't just do it once and never again
No. 88978
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has anyone seen the baekhyun album teasers? people are saying SM changed graphic designers and the quality shows…
i can see what they were trying to go for with this cover but it feels so "graphic design is my passion"
not to mention the typo at the bottom of "2rd mini album", do people at SM not do a quick spell check before they send things out lol
No. 88992
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https://twitter.com/littleariel13/status/1261254390301642752?s=21sm coex artium is closing because of profit loss. they are construction another building, which will probably house the new version of coex artium, but it’s on the opposite side of the country and no where near completion. sm is already losing a lot of money, so at this point debuting smngg with the same budget as itzy will make them go bankrupt.
>>88978 you can tell which albums were planned before the old designer left and which weren’t by the insane drop of quality and the amount of repetition. sm is using this minimalist excuse for how shitty it looks which is funny because minimalism doesn’t mean let’s use the same 3 fonts we got for free.
No. 88994
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>>88582Kpop idols need to embrace the thicc trend
They’re some like seulgi who do
No. 88998
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Lil bit offtopic, but what always buffles me is some idols' nastiness at fansigns: they're constantly picking their ears, their noses, the gunk in the corner of their eyes (and they aren't even embarassed about it) and then they touch fan's stuff to sign and hold their hands. Girl, ew. JK plucks his facial fur as well and armies in the comment section always find it endearing. I can't stand it.
No. 89000
>>88998this feels a bit nitpicky, i get if it was a full blown picture of the dude knuckle deep digging for gold, but how many of us day to day don't wipe eye crust or absentmindedly pick at our face when we're talking to someone?
i think if he was straight up pulling out huge boogers or balls of earwax at a fansign i would be disgusted, but the gif you posted seems like a normal person thing to do especially when you're just staring into space
No. 89003
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>>89000It doesn't have to be a knuckle deep digging, but it still is gross. Especially when they look at the gold they've found in there.
No. 89004
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>>89003same anon as >89000, i was just pointing out how the jk gif wasnt that gross because people scratch at their face all the time
the chen gif and this picture though…considerably more gross because most adults know to either pick their nose discreetly with a tissue or just to go to the bathroom and clean it out
lucas is actually like half a knuckle deep here though and its funny how he's staring directly into a camera while doing so
No. 89006
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>>88992Maybe if they focused more on groups that aren't nct…
The loss yg has insane. For sm it's the first year they started losing but for yg it's been that way since quite a while already and yet everything their artists do is travel and shop at chanel all year round.
How does that work, sm sales are 145 billion won, yg 53 billion and jyp only 34 billion, yet the latters profit is so high?
No. 89009
>>88992the rumor is that SM's new building is in changdong and isn't going to be complete until around 2024, so what are they going to do in the meantime? were the profits in the coex atrium so bad that they're just going to write off any revenue from that area because it wasn't worth the rent
for reference changwon is ~3 hours by car from seoul, so it's like moving something from san francisco to central california, it's definitely not as populated of an area so rent is probably dirt cheap
No. 89014
>>89010probably not, this is also mina's first full promotional cycle since her hiatus, if anything that would drive hype, unless she's decided she still needs time off
plus there really isnt any big gg comeback planned for the same time, so i would assume twice would probably do well
No. 89018
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Wow who would've ever thought that could happen after so many years
Surprisingly atm Lana is ranking at 26 and that half black girl at 44 (out of 101), I kind of expected they'd both do worse
No. 89029
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>>88978This looks very first week of art school/babby's first attempt at making an edgy design. It's incredibly amateurish for a SM album cover.
>>88994Anon pls
No. 89042
>>88992Have any anons visited COEX artium or the kpop company franchises in general (restaurants, museums, etc.)? Please share your experience if you have.
>>88998I'm not shocked. More than a few Koreans don't wash their hands after the bathroom (not racebait, mods). That isn't limited to low class, mangy looking people either; while out to eat in Korea, I'd see perfectly put together, beautiful women walk out of stalls and go straight back to eating. I've heard from guys that some Korean dudes do the same after using the urinal, yikes.
No. 89043
>>89042when I visited seoul last year I went to the Jyp cafe and ryujin was there! there's a pic floating around somewhere that my friend took of here, she's really short irl I thought we were the same height.
also I went to the bight building (me and my friend were having a koreaboo field day dont judge us) and there's sooooooooo much sticky notes plastered on their walls outside, im guessing angry karmys.
No. 89044
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>>89019But even the least popular contestants in chinese shows always get several million votes. I highly doubt that some western kpop fans wanting a black girl to win would be enough for that.
>>89035The 3 of them are judges on the chinese version of produce 101 (with fx Victoria). Now only Lay is missing lol
No. 89049
>>89019I never heard of Feifei before your post since I don't watch these kinds of survival shows, but I just looked into her and the whole situation is just unfortunate. If it's not the Chinese viewers calling her a disgusting n
*er, you have the international viewers overcompensating by spamming her videos and articles with comments like (literally) "OMG MELANIN QUEEN SHE'S AN ABSOLUTE ANGEL I LOVE HER SO MUCH BLASIANS ARE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE IN THE WORLD SHE DESERVES TO WIN UNLIKE THOSE PLAIN CHINESE" when they don't know anything about her, just the fact she's half black. Either way, it seems like people are just reducing her to her race.
No. 89052
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>>89049The kpoppies are using her as their token melanin kween to shit on Lana. They don't actually give a crap about voting for Feifei as long as they can use her as ammo against Lana. Honestly I love how much Lana
triggers them.
No. 89063
>>89061theres two rumors, one in changdong with no construction (so 2024), the other is the current SM space in changwon that will likely be their temp space until changdong is complete
this is from me browsing naver and crosschecking with translation sites so take with a grain of salt
No. 89068
>>89052> They don't actually give a crap about voting for Feifei as long as they can use her as ammo against Lana.This is honestly true. I'll go one further than that most of them had no interest in the show whatsoever and only decided to watch it to shit on Lana and pretend that she's invading
their space again. Calling her colonizer and telling her to kill herself (the usual hits) all while once again proving that they need remedial geography and getting into fights with Chinese people who like her.
So they need Feifei to be their melanin avenger and take down the evil white girl Lana while also providing a self insert for their fug asses. Completely transparent.
No. 89076
>>89073oh jeez i havent seen the gajoku video, only read about it but it's pretty damning considering he also does the hand motion
also not a good look considering the other two laughed and definitely knew what he was talking about
BK is very well known for being a POS and his fanbase is very much known for being incel-y so this is not a good look
im surprised the korean media hasn't picked up on this yet, the jaemin thing got swept under the rug but if this jungwoo video starts trending it will spark a wildfire
No. 89078
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posted the english translation but does anyone know what Hyolyn is apologizing for? She posted this in her fancafe this morning, but I can't find anything about it?
No. 89080
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>>89078Likely because her fanbase is becoming (rightfully) fed up with her trying to sustain her career off of repetitive covers and pretending to be an entertaining Youtuber. Pic related, taken from her most recent stream.
Not gonna lie, glad to see her mean girl persona catch up to her.
No. 89084
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holy shit, SM's hurt for money has started a new thing
apparently for the low low price of $3,000 you can have a private video call with your favorite member, i believe actually 1-on-1
i haven't looked into additional details and don't know if this is available outside of korea (bc how would they communicate) but this is a new level of delulu feeding
edit: i did some more research and it seems it's supposed to be a raffle, with tickets costing $15usd each and 150 people being chosen, 2 min each for the member of choice if raffled
not sure where the $3k is from, i can't find anything additional on that yet but i'll leave it up for now because it's not totally outlandish for SM to try to pull something like that
No. 89085
>>89065I saw the opposite…? Comments with 1000s of likes wondering why kpop is so successful when this show and the trainees are miles better in every aspect? Not even the most delusional kboo could deny that.
Kind of funny that even China manages to be more progressive than the kpop industry. At first I thought putting an androgynous girls as the center is only woke pandering, but the thing is that the chinese public doesn't like this at all. So they're trying to convey an "empowering" message despite this hurting their ratings and thus also profit. Lisa sometimes ruins it for me like come on girl you're only in your early 20s and have how many songs, 5? What gives her the right to talk down on others so much? But Kun and the chinese mentors and of course the girls are so nice, they really make up for it.
>>89068After the rankings were revealed some twitterfags had a moment of self awareness and realized they actually need to vote for her instead of only hyping her up (but it wouldn't make a difference anyway, since you have no chance without chinese voters support)
Ironically the girls seem to get along well, Feifei is helping out Lana and other foreign girls who don't speak chinese that well.
The two of them seem to take completely different approaches in trying to succeed: Lana blends in super well, most chinese likely assume she's half, the other girls call her pretty, Luhan likes her dance, but in the end I doubt that it will be enough. Feifei stands out a lot, no just because of her hair but also the way she dresses. Some young chinese people are open minded and like that but she also got a lot of hate on Weibo.
I noticed that during those shows ranks rarely change, nobody suddenly climbs up significally. There are these two thai girls who got immediately super popular and now they take up 95% of the screentime, so others don't even really have the chance to prove themselves. They might be safe for a couple more episodes but will never make it into the final lineup.
No. 89088
>>89086i assume there isnt an album limit for either of them, so theres definitely going to be fans mass buying in order to up their chances of getting a spot
if you look at it that way maybe 3k is a steal if its "guaranteed"
i also saw some clips of the dream fansigns since they're happening now and the fans are all way old..imagine being in your late twenties and paying hundreds if not maybe thousands to talk to a 19 year old for 2 minutes
No. 89092
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>>89089true, ive heard rumors on weibo that the owner of renjunbar is in her mid to late thirties…and she calls him baby in fansigns when she sees him, it's so gross
imagine being almost double the age of the boy you're fangirling over, he definitely thinks she's gross but puts up with it because they drive SO many sales especially in china
attached is post from the boom era where they gave him a receipt showing that they bought over 30,000 albums. granted it's a fansite of a large group of people, but that is still a shitton of fucking albums
No. 89113
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>>89094they dont, especially if you look at press pics from airports and such. a lot of the time its just edited out of official content if its too visible. some definitely get it lasered off, as the other anon said, but most just shave and call it a day.
No. 89116
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>>89114that's why he's hot anon.
pic is by him btw
No. 89122
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Apparently someone posted a song on spotify using Chanyeol's name. These are the lyrics to that song. ngl, pretty creepy af.
No. 89127
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>>89102exactly, i saw some nctfans trying to justify it saying he's happy he's with his "family", but that doesn't explain why jeno and jaemin would start laughing. the evidence is damning but fans will cover anything up for their oppas
on another note, if you go to the same twitter account and read the taeyong thread he uses the same r-word slur but fans are pretending it didnt happen (im surprised nctfags havent brigaded the account and mass reported it yet)
the infighting between nctfans is one of the biggest reasons as to why they'll never be super successful…doesnt help that two thirds of them have zero talent and are assholes
No. 89128
>>89127Can't speak for other nctfans, but I don't see the situations as equivalent because I feel like there's a difference between saying 'retard' when you're in middle school and saying it when you're 20 years old. Not that I don't think Taeyong should be held accountable for the bullying, but I don't think what you say in middle school can really reflect what kind of person you are 10+ years later. Jaemin's situation is more '
problematic' because he said it as an adult and finds it funny now. Though to be honest, I didn't expect much from Jaemin in the first place so this wasn't really a shock to me kek.
Either way, I think it's stupid for fans to acknowledge it didn't happen. They want to retain their moral superiority while still being able to stan their favorite asian twink, instead of either just accepting that they like someone who is '
problematic' or moving on and finding a different person/interest to obsess over (neither of which is that hard in the first place). It must be exhausting to constantly justify that shit to yourself.
No. 89129
>>89128i mean taeyong obviously said this stuff maliciously, so even as a middle schooler being a shithead bully isnt a good look
all of these idols literally started training in elementary school so their development is definitely stunted, so them finding slurs and weird edgy misogynistic youtubers funny is very much on brand for someone who literally hasn't gone to school since he was 12
its just funny how nctfags will spam emails trying to get SM to "educate" their idols about using slurs, but also send emails uwuing about how taeyong needs to be protected, like just fucking align on either your oppas are all shit or your oppas all need to be bubble wrapped and protected, its ridiculous
No. 89133
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>>89130if you're talking about min hee jin, she left late 2018 and actually joined big hit last year as their head of branding
the quality of sm designs has nosedived ever since she left, pink tape was honestly iconic, and now all they put out are neon "minimalist" covers with the same free fonts
No. 89136
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>>89133vs this…lol
half of the photobook are just solid color pages and the photos are just pictures of baekhyun pouting from six different angles
the fans can praise the "minimalism!!" and "art!!" all they want but it's just lazy…like what the fuck are those stickers, they remind me of those sheets you can get at the dollar store that are 0.99 for 400 of them
No. 89142
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>>89134with how late in 2019 she joined, i wouldn't be surprised if she didn't have much input into BTS's latest album which was released early this year because yikes…
we'll have to see what the new album they're supposedly releasing this fall looks like, i guess we can also see based off the TXT one that's supposed to come out soon
No. 89143
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>>89133(same anon posting the album pictures)
i'm baffled though by the design they insist on going with for nct/most solos recently, because they definitely have good designers in house who have variety and arent just using lazy minimalist excuses and shit font
chen's newest solo album had such a refreshing design and it still retains the minimalism, but i guess baekhyun and nct's concepts don't fit the clean spring look that chen's album had, so SM just copy pasted the shitty concept they use for everything else
No. 89145
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Speaking of shit album covers, rbw is repackaged Moonbyul's solo album and the cover is trash. It looks like someone's first attempt at making an artsy cover using photoshop.
No. 89147
>>88353I think he's good at other styles of humor too actually.
Like he was fucking hilarious in the second "Late Night Punch Punch Show" video they uploaded today
No. 89150
>>89148yup, i feel like theyre pretty well rounded and talented overall (except lucas, but he's attractive and well known so he brings fans to the fandom which is literally the point of a visual center)
i love how there is zero wayv comeback content despite them performing their new song at their concert
wayv is literally spending all of their free time promoting their dorm pets because their company literally cant be arsed to promote them lol
No. 89154
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>>89089laughing because it happened again today on vlive, but apparently tons of fans always ask jisung to "show his abs" or "pull down his zipper" and he always just responds with a handcuff gesture since he's still a minor in korea
at least the kid knows that the demographic of his fanbase is a bunch of hags trying to get a barely legal dude to show skin
No. 89157
>>89131Tbh I can't wait until one of the members inevitably fucks up. The amount of salt that would create given their privilege and how their fanbase mostly consists of armys.
>>89142If she had anything to do with the designs of TXT's second album, She's definitely lost her touch.
No. 89159
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>>89157is their fanbase mainly ARMYs? i thought they were pretty separate considering how often nctfags and ratmys get into it on twitter
the only thing i can see nct losing fans off of is a true dating scandal with pictures and stuff…they literally have several misogynistic members, a proved bully and scammer and fans still shield the fuck out of them. the only thing that possibly would get fans to start actually closing fansites and protesting would be if their oppa started dating a girl "after everything fans have done for them"
min hee jin kind of lost her touch at the end of her SM stint, so i'm not hopeful, but maybe a change in company might spark her creativity again because i loved her older stuff
No. 89162
>>89131>I feel like theyre absolutely terrible behind closed doors. Especially the dream members.Besides Jaemin and Jeno what other dream members are terrible?
I mean Haechan is very narcissistic but that’s to be expected of somebody who’s been in the industry from such a young age.
Renjun, Jisung and Chenle seem okay and Mark is one of the few male idols who I think is a genuinely good guy.
No. 89165
>>89162im a dream fan and i agree, jaemin and jeno seem like the two that will eventually breed the most drama. haechan had some sasaeng scandals and does seem super narcissistic and is so obnoxious sometimes, but its probably a product of being thrust into training so young and keeping up a public persona.
honestly chenle seems the most grounded out of all of them which is funny considering hes from such a privileged background (the kid literally did not understand the concept of rent) but like there's so many clips of him offering to buy members things without a second thought and he seems rather quiet and thoughtful despite being also thrown into entertainment young, even younger than the rest of them since he was performing on china's got talent since he was 5, and his friendship with jisung actually seems genuine
i really dont know what to say about renjun lol, i follow dream but dont really find him that interesting, and like the anon said mark does seem to be one of the more genuine idols out there right now
im fully dislosing that im a casual dream fan and i like chenle the most so i may seem biased. i also really liked jaemin and jeno but honestly all the shit thats surfaced around them recently has definitely made me like them a little less
No. 89172
>>89163nothing as concrete as jaemin, but if you scroll up to
>>89073 he's laughing at the joke jungwoo did, which he probably wouldn't understand if he also supported the
problematic youtuber
he also had a minor issue when he was shown on film getting very annoyed at chenle for reading a korean script slowly, which was later edited out by SM. people were defending him saying that he was just trying to be funny, but either way that's kind of a rude thing to do to someone who's obviously trying to do something in a second language
No. 89176
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>no contribute but have a picture of JYP looking like a disgusting ahjussi at like age 6>>89154Kek'd. That's great.
No. 89180
>>89154fucking kek, this picture is just hilarious to me for some reason
never thought i'd laugh at something nct related but here we are
is it just me or are there a shit ton of groups, especially ggs debuting this year? i dont even follow kpop actively but i keep hearing about these literally who companies who are planning to debut a group in 2020
No. 89183
>>89180same anon who posted the original handcuff pic, this link is even better because someone in the background adds siren noises
but honestly, its kind of funny and sad that people do this so often it's become a running meme with several compliations of the handcuff gesture
https://mobile.twitter.com/ijn0423/status/1259427169509404673 No. 89186
>>89159Lol I was talking about txt here
It's honestly kinda funny how powerful a dating scandal can be. Imagine if one of them just pulls a Hyuna outta nowhere.
>>89176Oh god this picture is just so oddly creepy
Man has bad features.
>>89180I don't think there's that much of a difference. Too many groups debuting has been a problem for a while. 90% of nugus will have a run of 3 years or less
No. 89194
my take on what'll happen to the members when bts disbands:
BH will DEFINATELY make jimin go solo. hes really really popular in korea, and I can kinda see why, he has amazing stage presence and hes cute sometimes, but when bts disbands (which is coming very soon) I feel like sk is going to SHIT on him once he goes solo and they realise he can't sing. solo artists are always focused on their singing, if you're a solo artist that can't sing………
I would say the same for v but tbh his voice tone, idk what its called, is really nice and he sounds nice in slow, lowkey songs, which korea loves. as long as he doesn't try singing any high notes………..
unpopular opinion: I think j-hope will be really successful in korea if he goes solo. KID HAS STAGE PRESENCE. he can dance, rap and he holds a better note than jin jimin and v. hes never gotten into any scandals and hes getting really popular slowly with the gp because of his multiple charity donations (hes a millionaire but still) so yeah. he just has to start looking cute
jin: bh wont even try making him solo
suga: producer, hes sick of the idol life
rm: idk tbh, he defs wont be popular with the gp
jungkook: hes going to be REALLY successful. like embarrass the rest of the members successful. he could be Koreas next it boy as long as bh promote him well. the scandals just made him more interesting, hes gaining fans like crazy
No. 89195
>>89194Bts will flop if they even try going solo
I actually feel bad for them
The bubble is gonna POP and the reality check will be like a whiplash
you sound like a twitter ratmy the way you sound delusional
No. 89196
>>89194i feel like if anything, v would try to be an actor despite having zero acting skills, but as much as korea moans about that they literally dont give a shit at the end of the day and he'll keep getting deals
i agree with jk, he probably is the best "it boy" status in terms of solo potential, but he also has the biggest potential to blow up bc of a scandal
No. 89200
im laughing my ass off at this…apparently oh my girl's member is getting "cancelled" for being fatphobic and not gonna lie, it's definitely bordering on "uh oh" territory
just watch the video, because it's fucking hysterical despite it being kind of mean. for context, she was supposed to mime out shindong and did a spot on job
https://mobile.twitter.com/twipril/status/1261755750906580996i don't care what sjw fans have to say, this was fucking phenomenal comedy and funny as fuck
No. 89201
>>89197Its too late for them to venture out and actually be successful.
They'll all go solo after enlistment and once they do they will be too old for it.
They wont be fresh and trendy, they'll go on their 8th year next, its far too late for a idol group.
Idols have a short shelf life.
Exo did one genius thing = they did solo projects after their third year.
D.o. went into acting since his 2nd year, Baekhyun did solo since 2013, Chen succeded when he almost hit 1 million Ul for his solo debut Xiumin went into musicals, Lay went to China and is a provincial ambassador, Chanyeol owns his own studio, Sehun is venturing into China and Kai will continue with his fashion career and in the long run get back into dancing (Like Rain)
Enough of the rant.
>>89199People are actually mad because a member called Jinhee left OMG due to
Anorexia apparently
No. 89207
>>89199>>89200Lol I thought it because they got into another cultural appropriation/racism controversy. Probably a mix of both
https://twitter.com/ybkiz/status/1261764768316248065There's also another thread of cultural appropriation from 2016 in that thread
If you go to the youtube, SBS have also issued an apology. Thoughts?
Should be at around 21:29
No. 89210
>>89207ohhh boy…i posted the original "fatshaming" clip, i did not know about this, the shindong thing was funny but this is….not
this is definitely going to ruffle a lot of feathers internationally, korea won't care but this actually is the first time where i've seen a clip of "cultural appropriation/alleged racism" and went yikes
No. 89213
>>89180I've been getting a weird feeling from Jisung, I think it's because every time I've seen those scandalous videos of Jaemin, he's always laughing hysterically in the background. Seems like he's also a sexist prick but he's more discreet about it. I hate to come to that conclusion bc he's a kid but he and the others seem like ilbe users or something.
>>89200Lmfao these retards are forgetting that Shindong has been a proven sexist pig who has repeatedly criticized relatively gorgeous women's looks and normal weights in comparison while looking like being overweight and ugly. I guess this is what happens when kpop becomes overrun by brand new 4th gen fans.
No. 89214
>>89207Fucking yikes. Not once, but twice . It's 2020 and i really have a hard time believing koreans and kpop idols are this ignorant to other races and nationalities. They should just stick to singing and dancing.
>>89210Same. I actually cringed at the entire clip, especially when they went 'wait, do it again.'
No. 89217
>>89213if anything, i feel like jisung just has a super immature sense of humor, he literally joined the company in 5th grade so he didn't even finish elementary school, i could totally see him finding shit that the older guys say funny because he doesn't know any better, which isn't an excuse obviously
i can see the older ones being actual ilbe users, the jungwoo clip was so damning, especially with the hand motion and that's not something a regular person would just stumble upon
the way i see it, i judge idols based on how a normal person their age would act. i feel like there are very few people nowadays who can truthfully say they didn't call their friend a "retard" in college or swear/use slurs around their close group of friends, so i haven't really thought much of the jaemin r-word scandal
however, i feel like the general 20-something population don't watch alt-right youtubers and follow misogynistic assholes who beat their women, so if all this other stuff that's come out about the nct guys is true, it really is disappointing
as for shindong, im just laughing because he finally got a taste of his own medicine kek
No. 89225
>>89165 i really like renjun's gig on akdong seoul. he seems to really take the job seriously
jaemin is a plain asshole i remember when renjun told a story about him finding his cactus pot "accidentally left" on his bed by jaemin. it was hidden under the blankets and he could have seriously gotten hurt
No. 89226
>>89215They know it's wrong when someone does it to them. Then suddenly they completely understand.
Face it, they're just racist and self-centered.
No. 89229
>>89225i didn't mean to come off as thinking renjun was an ass, it was more so i haven't paid close attention to him because i don't find him that interesting. i do find it endearing how he takes his radio show and solo activities seriously, but he kind of fades into the background for me
the cactus situation also reminded me of the time where jaemin literally sat on jeno's birthday cake like…you're almost 20 years old, how do you not know to take half a second to look behind you before you sit on something…didn't he also sit and break some other member's thing too? either the kid is dumb blind or he literally doesn't give a fuck about other people's belongings
i'm such a chenle fangirl but here's another clip of him…he always makes sure to address staff politely, in the clip commenters were saying the outfits were pretty, so he made sure to single out the stylists and let them know which i thought was very sweet
i know people give him shit for being a golden spoon idol who likely paid his way into the industry, but he genuinely seems to work hard and doesn't think super highly of himself (at least on camera)
https://mobile.twitter.com/chenleours/status/1230424859810750464 No. 89230
>>89229now that i think about it the only
problematic thing people have to say about chenle is how he makes colorist/fatphobic remarks which imo is nothing in comparison to what (mostly jaemin) has done.
i've seen a bit of his family in one night sleepover trip and they all seem grounded too and genuinely kind/loving so i'm not surprised he's the same way since they did raise him
No. 89231
>>89230i havent seen fatphobic comments, but i do have to admit i recall him making fun of haechan being dark, and that definitely is not a very nice thing to do and i hope he learns to not say that kind of stuff
asian culture needs to shed the mentality of making fun of dark skin, i get there's different beauty standards but continously banging away that light = beautiful is honestly so backwards and sad
if anything, i feel the korean members are likely given preferential treatment, which probably contributes to why jaemin and jeno seem like bigger pricks than renjun and chenle. i honestly can't say either way about jisung since he's still young, so we'll have to see…
No. 89252
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Out of the whole group Jungwoo is the one that looks the most different
No. 89254
>>89253i genuinely think if she dropped the forced nasal tone in her singing she would both sound better and also hit her notes better
she literally could not hold a note because she was also trying to maintain that lana del rey whine in her voice
does yg not have vocal coaches?
No. 89258
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>>89207the oh my girl thing apparently has a "part 1" where they appropriate the fuck out of indian culture with a really badly choreographed dance full of indian-style dance moves and a song about curry
not to mention this wonderful screencapped comment post-dance about curry…
this is all in the original linked twitter thread, but legitimately the first time ive actually felt like a group deserves to get dragged for being racists, this is like south park levels of absurdity, whoever approved this actually needs to get fired
this is a whole different level than an idol wearing braids or dreads, this is actual straight up ignorance LOL
No. 89259
>>89258damn, they just started to gain traction and they are already being
problematic left and right.
No. 89261
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>>89258youtube link of the "curry" song cover and dance plus a snip of the lyrics
https://youtu.be/1ljb8lb2DKw No. 89264
>>89263sadly i dont think korean fans will give a shit about any of this, but i'm curious to see how ifans will try to spin this one
they swept the indian/curry one in 2016 under the rug saying the "company made them do it", but this new mexican burrito one (typing that out already makes me cringe) came directly from the mouth of a member who thought she was being funny
it's going to take a lot of mental gymnastics for fans to shield this one, and i dont think a lot of these fans are working with a full set of tools to begin with
No. 89265
>>89116that's disgusting, who is the demographic for this
>>89197agreed, unfortunately I feel like we're gonna have to put up with them for a long time.
No. 89270
>>89263>>89264>b-but their company made them do it, they're innocent!>don't bully them! the hate they get is disporportionate, if your oppars did this, you'd dismiss it!Girl group stans need to realize that while female idols are subjected more to sexism, they're likely just as ignorant, racist and homophobic as their male counterparts. There's no excuse for what they did, you don't need a deeper understanding of racism or cultural appropriation, just apply that
>>89262 logic and you immediately see why doing what they did is so wrong. Every little child would get that already. Simply don't do something to somebody that you wouldn't want somebody else doing to you. How empty are their brains that they think doing that on tv or at a concert is a-okay? Some of the members are 25+, so the uwu little baby excuse can't be applied either.
No. 89273
If you guys wanna listen to punch,its here.
https://mobile.twitter.com/m614oon_ti/status/1261969400019603459Unless they delete it idk.
No. 89275
>>89273It's trash and I'm tired of same lame-ass bridge they're always using.
Why couldn't they have just used this b-side as the title track? It's actually a bit of a bop.
No. 89289
>>89234There were good sounding moments, but it all blended into samey, mindless singalong.
Has Roseh realized she needs to do things on her own, because her company doesn't give a shit, and while Jennie's career in Korea is set for years to come, same for Lisa's abroad, she and Jisoo are fucked outside of BP.
No. 89296
>>89289I feel like Jisoo at least has a shot at acting. She’ll have to drop YG as soon as BP disbands to 1) increase favor among the YG boycotters who want to like her and 2) not end up in limbo like Dara
Idk if the Blackpink members have done enough to be financially set for life like 2ne1, though iirc some absolute has-beens like Sejeong and JooE made bank off their short relevancy and are still living lavishly.
Anyways it’s true Rosé can’t do much outside of BP… heck, even as it is now, her schedule is significantly less busy than all of the other members. I’d start investing in real estate or something if I were her.
No. 89300
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>>89296Idols seem to make a lot of money these days. Even if they're a has been or a flop group, they seem to make some kind of bank. Feels like yesterday when Nine Muses were so broke they had to ration out rice.
No. 89302
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Speaking of misogyny and just idols being gross sexist pieces of shit, apparently dispatch revealed that two members of TheBoyz were posting comments to anonymous questions on a site similar to ask.fm that were super
problematic in 2018, and the company apologized and it got swept under the rug
TheBoyz aren't huge nugu groups anymore so their past is getting dug up again and yikes…ofc fans are defending them saying they were young when this happened but the guys were literally like 18 when they posted this…
(link to 2018 apology if anyone wants to read:
https://www.soompi.com/article/1237257wpp/fans-demand-new-sunwoo-leave-boyz-cre-ker-entertainment-apologizes)
No. 89307
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>>89303i looked briefly into the eric situation just now and i have to agree, sometimes you read about korean bullying accounts and its like "this is a bit much" when people say idols threw chairs at then and stuff, but what eric did sounds totally plausible for anyone who's gone to an american middle school
we all had that one group of kids who'd hang out by a flagpole or the lockers and throw shit and be loud, people don't make this shit up because it's so commonplace lol, fans can defend it all they want but this sounds true, and the person who talked about it provided receipts to show they did go to school together
so basically in the 2 years they've been active, there's at least three proven POS members, and now that the group is on that kingdom show everything's coming to light
there's fucking 14 members, i'm sure the company can just get rid of the super shit ones and still do fine lmfao
No. 89313
>>89307Actually 11 members, but yeah It's not like an 8 member group would be unheard of. Are New and Sunwoo popular though? I can see why their company might be hesitant in dropping them, not justifying it tho.
I also found an interview she did on some kpop blog, describing her experiences.
https://kpopalypse.com/2019/09/11/kpopalypse-interview-tvixxbar-eric-from-the-boyz-alleged-bully-victim/
Honestly I mostly follow The Boyz just for Kevin. I really hope he doesnt turn out to be a pos too
No. 89316
>>89313same, anon. i only like theboyz because of kevin. i find it amusing that he's such a twink and his voice is quite nice.
some people say there's no proof that the comments about the women as pets were true but i'm more inclined to believe they're real
No. 89325
>>89313yeah i pulled the screenshot from the website you linked, it all sounds very plausible and i cant see why someone across the world would want to report this
>>89316the company literally apologized for it, it's not fake…they issued a statement in 2018 stating it was real and the boys were reflecting
No. 89337
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>>89275i agree, i heard a bit of punch and its SO bad, i don't see why they don't just use that b-side you linked, or just do something softer instead of this hard "electropop" they insist on trying to make work
i mean we all know the reason is if they do a softer, vocal-oriented song they cant shove taeyong and mark to the front like they always do
ive always thought nct has better vocalists than rappers, haechan has one of the prettiest vocal tones in the idol industry recently, taeil definitely can sing well, and doyoung and jaehyun also have very competent voices. i dont get it, they have no issues not giving people lines, why dont they just focus on a more vocal song? its not like jaehyun and haechan aren't popular either..
pic related just because i found it hysterical lmfao
No. 89339
>>87608>>89337I think SM is tryna push this "electropop" sound for 127 bc it's what they're most known for. Ppl always refer to their sound as "noise music", it's pretty much their concept at this point. I also think SM might be trying to pull something like Superhuman 2.0 bc the original flopped big time (which imo was a shame cus it's honestly hella catchy and one of the best title tracks, but this might be my bias speaking)
I agree it's annoying that they're constantly going for a similar concept. A softer song would def work really well, something ballad-y like No Longer from their Regular album
No. 89342
>>89339i think this was briefly touched upon in a previous thread, but nct doesn't do bad ballads, it just highlights how weak taeyong and mark are when it comes to anything thats not "hype yelling"
White Night is one of my favorite songs they did, it's a shame they don't do this more often. it's really highlights haechan's vocal color and taeil's technique, but also how weak mark, johnny, and taeyong are
also i love how all the comments are taeyong stand going "omg he's proving he can SING!" like…are we listening to the same video?
No. 89349
>>89213“Haechan why are you so ugly? Stop eating, you need to lose weight.” @ 0:35
I feel like they always target Haechan because he seems confident enough to take it but damn, that would get tiring.
I have a hard time believing that anyone who grew up in a trainee environment could ever have a normal, healthy mindset without a shitload of therapy.
No. 89350
>>89339The issue is that this style of theirs is tired now. It's not like SM have truly been keeping their groups to any particular style (127 - touch, limitless; dream - chewing gum vs ridin rollin or whatever its called; U has a varied concept anyway). Why not try something different, their die-hard fans will like it anyway and then maybe they can actually get some public recognition (but its probably too late anyway).
for me anything is better than wakey wakey. that hook was atrocious.
No. 89352
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Surprise surprise, BP's album is postponed.
I'm not surprised though, with Jennie's injury and the COVID situation, but ofc blinks are going absolutely insane rn
It looks like they're doing two smaller "prereleases" in the summer, but who knows if that'll happen
No. 89354
>>89226>>89258Right, say how much kimchi smells like ass and see them implode to the point they assume you're Japanese.
>>89227I thought scammer young was Lee so man's favorite
No. 89359
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I used to really hate Haechan but in the past year I’ve grown to actually like him. He’s by far my favorite vocalist in nct, a good dancer, hard working, quick-witted and pretty funny.
I still think he’s annoyingly cocky at times but at least he’s entertaining.
He’s not ugly imo but if he had Taeyong’s face (and was SM’s favorite) I think he’d definitely be the most popular member.
No. 89361
>>89359i dont really like his "personality", real or fake on shows and vlives, i think he's really over the top to the point where it's obnoxious, but it's undeniable he has talent and can sing well and dance well
at least he has that going for him, unlike jaemin who's literally only there for his face and fanservice, and this is coming from someone who's a fan. i liked him a lot undeniably because he's quite attractive, but recently i've definitely found myself disliking him more because of the controversies
the industry is oversaturated with pretty boys, there's no reason to defend shitty ones when they're a dime a dozen
No. 89362
>>89194Wheew ratmys are delusional
>>89352Damn when will their contracts expire?? Yg is snakey he might pretend to postpone it until the renewal and then after that he'll probably cancel it give all their songs to the new gg kek
No. 89364
>>89362i believe their contract ends in 2022, so 2 more years
i cant see rose and jisoo renewing honestly, yg has been promising a rose solo (deserved or not) for forever and she may never get one lol
blinks are fucking crazy though, especially the SEA ones so im surprised yg isnt just forcing shitty half assed songs out of BP more often bc fans will eat it up regardless
No. 89365
I was surprised at how bad jungwoo's live singing was at their concert yesterday, nctzens are always treating him like a top vocalist but he's actually worse than all the vocalists in nct.
>>89342Lmao they want Taeyong to be an all-rounded idol so bad.
No. 89366
>>89365i agree and not gonna lie, i was surprised because he and haechan supposedly were the two that passed the "weekend sm auditions" and got in on talent, but the gap between him and haechan's live vocal is considerable. (then again, yoona also supposedly passed the same audition and she isn't exactly known for her singing voice)
i dont get why fans cant just admit a lot of idols aren't meant to be well rounded, like your fave is supposed to be a rapper, why would you expect him to sing well?
No. 89371
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Unfortunately I can't find any other reliable translated article other than a twitter link, but apparently the BTS endorsement fee is $810,000 per member (~1B won)
That is absolutely fucking insane, but what big CF's have they done lately? No wonder idols are taking all the CFs they can, I'm sure even the lesser known ones are still getting paid a ton, like Eunwoo and his menstrual pads kek
No. 89372
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>>89371same anon, had to link the tampon/pads ad that eunwoo did because big kek
i wonder how much he got paid for this…
No. 89373
>>89371That's not impressive tbh there are tons of influencers making this with half a dozen of posts these days
And what makes you think other idols are striving? It's probably worse than yester years these days for idols since they are way less exposed to the gp. There's just a few of them making bank from CFs considering the oversaturated pool they come from
No. 89374
>>89373is it not impressive? last i read someone like cristiano ronaldo (who i would argue is much, much more well known than "jimin of bts") makes around 900k usd per sponsored post, 810k for a singer who's really not known outside of the kpop/koreaboo circle seems insane
but at the end of the day no one knows for sure if theyre actually making this much since no one can see the contracts
No. 89376
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Surprised dispatch posted it at all considering their relationship with SM and Bighit.
No. 89377
>>89376oh man, the "good boys" from nct and astro and jungkook, mingyu is probably going to slide right under the radar because the media and public are going to circle around those first three
fans were already saying it was "disproven", but dispatch reporting it yet again makes me feel like they have some evidence or pictures to back it up
No. 89380
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>>89376not the original op, but here's a translation of an article
if true, they were told to stay home and yet eunwoo and jaehyun still promoted and mc'd shows, this means their companies are probably going to get skewered too kek
nct is having a comeback soon too, the timing could not be better
No. 89384
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>>89382exactly, fans are already trying to say "well the bars were open so they didn't do anything wrong!!" but it's such an irresponsible thing to do. there would be no controversy if they were out at the bars at any other point in time, it's literally a problem because of this coronavirus situation
not to mention, isn't jaehyun's father a physician in korea? i would think he out of everyone would understand the need to quarantine and not do stupid shit like go to the bars, considering his dad may very well actually be on the front lines trying to help people…
BigHit is already "looking into it" aka having a PR statement written, but look at the ratmy at the bottom of that tweet screeching for BH to "protect poor JK" as if he didn't do anything wrong lol
No. 89388
>>89385come on, dude…even if they did something wrong why would you wish they were positive? it's not even them getting sick, it's everyone around them who would be exposed too
i love some good tea and honestly im a little excited to see these entitled ass dudes get dragged because the stans are going to go nuts, but thats different than literally wishing for these people to be sick and get others around them sick..
No. 89390
>>89376>entertainment placeslol just they went out clubbing
also ew @ their unshopped faces
No. 89392
>>89384Ratmys are either writing that bh will sue or "Kings! Glad they had fun!"
I once again was naive enough to hope that this could have made them a bit more self aware, but of course they'll never critizise their favs, no matter what…
Your oppars are out there risking to spread a virus that cost thousands of lifes already but of course people not kissing his ass 24/7 are much worse.
The rumor being true also proves that once again a person was bullied by ratmy/bh to apologize (god knows what horrible threats they receive…)
>>89388Tell that your Jk oppar he's the one being reckless
No. 89394
>>89392WHY TF are they constantly asking bighit to sue everyone under the sun
this is one of the things i hate the most
No. 89395
>>89392when did i ever defend JK lol…i'm not an army and never will be, i was saying theres a difference between being excited for tea and hoping someone is positive so they can spread all their entitled ass germs to the stylists, stage guys, and regular ass people trying to do their jobs
either way i hope these guys actually get some heavy flack for this, this was so fucking irresponsible and theres no way dispatch would release these news without some solid evidence
No. 89398
>>89394ratmy fans are already trying to clear searches and demand that jk be protected while also simultaneously being confused because "i thought bh and dispatch had a deal!?"
i love how fucking hypocritical they are, like they know their oppas are
problematic and instead of just admitting theyre shit they shift the blame and are furious because dispatch supposedly didn't honor some unconfirmed deal to protect these shitheads
if this was a girl group member she would be absolutely slaughtered, the double standard is fucking insane
No. 89399
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>>89397
i follow a lot of jungkook fans and tons of them were having borderline aneurysms about some kind of imaginary hate campaign against him, i swear to god most of these people need help. they are way too invested in this korean man they dont know
No. 89402
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>>89399yup, i ventured into an allkpop thread of people asking "army are you going to hold jk accountable" and literally half of the responses are "why are you only asking army and not carat/nct u hate jk and his success ree"
what is it about the army fanbase that attracts so many damn martyrs lol
also this fucking tweet has me laughing…the shade of "the biggest male idols and eunwoo" is fucking hysterical
No. 89406
>>89403this is really bad for their image, especially since the itaewon bar scene allegedly caused another wave of covid cases after one infected patron bar hopped several bars
i think theres a stark difference between going to a restaurant where you can still kind of social distance, and going to a packed bar where you're going to be very close to a lot of people
No. 89407
>>89403Yeah,especially since they're idols lol.
I think they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
No. 89410
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>>89408not to mention two of them are defying self quarantine orders and attending music shows and promotions, they definitely deserve to get dragged for putting other people at risk
the unfortunate side effect of being an idol and enjoying the benefits and salary a well known idol makes is that they're going to be held at a different standard than the normal person, the argument of "oh its the government's fault, they should have enforced the rules" is such a stupid and weak argument
it'll be interesting to see how this develops through the week, considering it's only early afternoon in korea and the news only broke a few hours ago
stan twitter has imploded already though kek
No. 89411
>>89403Korea gvt never ordered restaurants bar and clubs to shut down so yeah it's basically what
>>89405 said
No. 89413
>>89412exactly, i hate the "uwu baby" and "tired parents" narrative like jin and jk are barely five years apart, i own fish who have a bigger age gap than that
jk does seem mentally stunted, and i can see him going through his "teenage rebel" phase because he literally didn't have a childhood, but i hate how ratmy's shield his every move because hes a cute baby…like he's 25, not 5…
No. 89418
>>89411Even if that's the case,considering the current situation around the world and the fact that the virus is quite infectious but we still have no vaccine for it ,everyone should feel a sense of responsibility and caution and have some common sense to avoid crowded places such as clubs.
Countries around the world are slowly opening their borders,restaurants etc but that doesn't mean that the risk of catching the virus and spreading it is gone.
No. 89419
>>89416I mean they were even posting about it on twitter
But ifans are retarded who will stay in denial
No. 89423
>>89421I wonder if SM and Pledis are going to release a statement now.
>>89420if dispatch did post about Mino to shield the other idols why would they come out and expose them 5 days later lmao.
No. 89424
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braindead spergs
No. 89425
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>>89421lmao, love how they were "looking into it" and "couldnt confirm or deny" until now. and all the armys who were demanding bighit start suing people and writing those long ass letters about it….. kpop is so unintentionally hilarious, i love it
No. 89426
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>>89421>Jungkook feels sorry for not practicing social distancingLMAOOOOO this is so funny. of course he doesn't
No. 89427
>>89424my favorite one so far is "how come these stupid reporters weren't practicing social distancing and were at the bars"
uh, because your oppa being trash makes them money? lol
No. 89430
>>89376another scandal with jungkook? this boy never chills, its funny how everyone was saying its fake though but bh actually admitted it so armys cant do their mental gymnastics anymore
as for jaehyun and eunwoo, they continued their schedules without self quarantine? even though they were tested negative corona could be hidden for 2 weeks, imagine if they actually got it and spread it to everyone… very irresponsible
as a kind of an ex svtfag im very disappointed in mingyu i hope all 4 are held accountable for their retarded actions and get actual backlash bc this is clearly a very irresponsile thing to do
No. 89432
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well that's 2/4. if sm was smart they'd get something out quick unless they're really going to have him sit out of promotions. idk how they're going to handle his inkigayo gig.
No. 89437
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I really want to see what sm will say.
No. 89439
>>89437with astro currently promoting, is eunwoo going to sit out? he's technically supposed to be self quarantining until 5/10 per guidelines and the smart thing to do is just lay low and not give netizens more ammunition
i'm curious about SM too…they would be stupid to keep jaehyun promoting but he literally is their moneymaker despite them trying to make it taeyong so who knows lol
No. 89440
>>89433well it's already past 5/10 unless I misunderstood?
>>89437maybe sm is getting chewed out by SBS. they can't be dumb enough to ignore it at this point.
No. 89442
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>>89440i meant sit out to "reflect" as he was promoting during the period he was supposed to be home, being on stage now will probably just make things much worse than just laying low
while we all wait for SM to potentially respond, this meme is great
No. 89444
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>>89442same anon, but jaehyun's posted something and it's not an apology lmfao
SM's PR team is amazing
No. 89445
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4/4. I used a translator to read the statement and it doesn't sound like he's sitting out promos or anything. I guess we'll see if the backlash gets worse.
No. 89447
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Ratmys getting so angry about a dude translating and posting the news that they’re actually trying to doxx him.
No. 89448
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Andd here we go.
No. 89453
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>>89447lmfao imagine being so delusional that the person just translating ur oppa being a shit is worse than ur actual oppa
the best part is if jk pulled a chen these same ratmys would be leaving in hordes kek
>>89448ngl this is totally expected, SM needs to pull him out of promos if they actually want this comeback to succeed
No. 89457
>>89455they dont pull taeyong out because the fans arent boycotting the group, kfans are boycotting the comeback right now and selling his photo cards, if they pull him out from promotions they might have a fighting chance at making some money otherwise this will be superhuman promos 2.0
not to mention punch is a weak ass song, so this isnt looking good
No. 89458
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Everyone and their mom is always nutting over Seolhyun's body but everyone in AOA uses hella padding.
No. 89459
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>>89432The fact that his group has been promoting social distancing is the cherry on top
No. 89460
>>89459eunwoo was a part of the "thank you for staying home" campaign too and the knetz response has been golden
my favorite:
Why did you pretend to suck at acting? You're such an amazing actor. You're doing the "Thank You" campaign (T/N: campaign to promote social distancing in Korea) but shouldn't it be "thanks to you I went to the club" campaign….?
No. 89467
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kfans are offloading jaehyun's merch and boycotting the comeback
what he did is shitty and irresponsible for sure, but how can they still support people like taeyong while also trying to cancel jaehyun lol
just cancel the whole damn group at this point lmao, stans are insane
No. 89469
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i thought this was funny. its from early april and it says "cha eunwoo might be the future for korean men in korea" and it went viral today bc everyone thought it was ironic their nickname is also itaewon and cha eunwoo's image is tainted now
No. 89471
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honestly terrifying. explains the weird timing since it all happened last month.
No. 89472
>>89471I’m not gonna deny that this scandal is very real, but this is such a typical move. Rooting for those involved in the nth room chat to get real punishment.
Also, notice how all the idols that were caught going out are born in ‘97; there’s supposedly a group chat of idols born that year, which makes me think that all of them probably have been going clubbing together for a while, but this is the first time it’s been reported because of the extra coronavirus flavour.
No. 89486
>>89471>>89472>>89473Fuck off pathetic oppalogists, the public and government of Korea have been kissing Bts' asses for ages already, they're way too important to them (because muh national pride) to throw them under the bus for that. Not everything is some huge conspiracy against your innocent baby bois.
Jungkook and Eunwoo are the definition of privileged males who hold way too much power. God knows what stuff they already got away with thanks to either money or their agencies simply pressuring the other party to the point of them apologizing for stating the truth. The girls partying with them might have to give away their phones at the clubs entrance or sign something, that's why no pics exist. They could do everything they want to less famous people (like female or younger male idols) and there'd never be any consequences.
This is the same situation like with Bigbang, a couple years ago everybody was "haha they're so rich and famous, true kings" plus brushing their scandals and all warning signs under they rug, and now they go "omg who could've ever known that he's so horrible?!"…
Fans reactions to this (besides k-nctfags who immediately dropped Jaehyun which is totally
valid in this situation) are absolutely sickening. A true brainwashed cult.
No. 89487
>>89485Pretty much. Korean GP doesn't care about BG idols.
>>89471>>89473>>89472Except there's no logic behind throwing your greatest cultural export under the bus to save a handful of criminal scum who are literal nobodies otherwose.
>>89483>Are kpop stans just trying to distract from their stupid bgs being irresponsible and thoughtlessNo. Are we forbidden to laugh at more than one thing at a time?
No. 89493
>>89473>>89471Are you people DUMB?
Every top article this morning was about NTH oom you dumb idiots
This stupid club thing isnt even big enough to cover Koreas anger over NTH room dumbasses
No. 89504
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Kpop in a nutshell
Also, what's with stans clearing searches with "best boy Jk, Eunwoo,…"? Reads like something out of r/doggo kek
No. 89510
>>89486ok calm down. I don't keep track of trending articles, I'm glad to know that nth room takes priority of this petty mess. I'm ready for all the milk if they have been clubbing regularly and dispatch finally starts to report it. I'm tired of the babying, especially since eunwoo and jaehyun willingly put people's lives in danger by possibly spreading (despite being tested negative later). They're selfish and need a reality check, idol or not it was a dick move.
>>89499I'm ready for the korean public to hold their government's feet to the fire. Too much goes unresolved, it's surely reaching a breaking point by now. If there are so many big names involved it would destabilise the economy, then maybe there needs to be a change in who is holding economical power.
No. 89514
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>>89511this is an image board. are we supposed to actually see him in this video?
No. 89515
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Ot but kek at all the self righteous anons who come itt just to say “this thread sucks! Mods pls nuke it!”
This thread is absolutely more milky than any cow thread atm
No. 89518
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>>89514no but someone posted about it
No. 89519
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cha eunwoo was spotted
No. 89531
>>89528lmfao if this is true nct might as well just give up on promotions, theyre already going to get fucked bc of this jaehyun thing
fans are gonna say "its all media play! someone's out to get nct bc theyre finally getting big!!" but its literally just all of their oppas finally getting exposed for being shits (this dating one doesnt count obviously) with some great timing
No. 89532
>>89531How SM managed to cast such poor quality idols and executed a flop bg with all their prestige and resources is far beyond me. You can
feel the decrease in quality in everything they do nowadays.
No. 89533
>>89532this has been said before, it's because nct is a nepotist group made up of rich kids whose parents paid for them to prance around and do the famous idol thing
outside of taeil, haechan, taeyong, and potentially jungwoo, the rest of the nct kids are fucking loaded with no true talent. no one knows how jungwoo made it through auditions since he can barely sing live, and taeyong was only casted bc he looks like a budget jaejoong
the rest of them literally are all just rich kids whose parents bankroll everything, fans will scream about the talent but anyone who listens to their music knows half the group is there for filler lol
No. 89536
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>>89535oh i didnt mean to make it sound like you were beating a dead horse comment, i mainly was mentioning that the nct flop/rich kid topic has been discussed extensively before if you wanted to search since there were a lot of people chiming in
sm quality has significantly declined in the last five years or so, trainees that wouldnt have made the cut otherwise have been debuted solely bc of parental money
look at nct johnny, like the dude was training from before exo even debuted, i believe he holds the record for longest trainee at around 10 years. i doubt he wouldve been allowed to stay and debut when sm still had quality control, the only reason he was is because his mom basically paid for it to happen
No. 89537
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can't wait to see jungkook cry on their next paid content
No. 89539
I'm certain that dispatch does have pictures of them in the club. And they definitely did go clubbing, not just for dinner because who the fuck would go to 3 different restaurants in 1 evening? They waited quite a bit to release this info, getting everybody hyped, now they enjoy the mass
triggering of fans after the agencies had to confirm and then maybe tomorrow or in a couple days they'll deliver the final blow lol fingers crossed
>>89536Yeah, besides dream their ages aren't too far from exo, many nct members would've been of normal idol age had the debuted with them. They're probably to exo what suju is to dbsk: the leftovers. Only difference is that suju worked extremely hard in varieties to get their name known plus they had simple yet public friendly songs.
No. 89540
>>89539honestly i believe that too, dispatch for sure has some sort of concrete evidence, there's no way they would try to pick a fight with 4 agencies without some solid proof to back it up (let alone SM and BH)
my theory is that the pictures are pretty bad, or else there's no way the companies would have confirmed so quickly. fans keep demanding for "photo proof!!" but i feel like they'll eat their words if dispatch actually releases them, because they'll probably not just be of oppa sitting or standing outside a bar
i for one just want dispatch to release them so fans learn not to ask for shit they don't want to see lol
No. 89547
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also to all the oppapologists in here saying ur poor uwu baby was used as a scapegoat to cover up the nth room scandal
nth room and godgod are top of the current search list, they are not getting buried, the general korean population is not filled with people under the age of 30 uwuing about oppas, there are plenty of people who don't follow idols and wouldn't get sidetracked by this supposed coverup lol
kpop fans are so delusional, deflecting any blame so that their precious baby boys dont get any additional hate
the best part is if these idols had pictures of women sitting on their laps in the bars these same pig fans would be leaving and stop defending them lmfao
dispatch please release the pictures the milk is so good
No. 89553
>>89550it sounds like a rejected bts b-side to me, and the use of autotune is excessive
it's not a bad song, im sure if bts released it it wouldve been lauded as "amazing" and "inspirational" but it just sounds generic and uninspired to me
the video is a mess, it reminds me of a budget dna with some of the colors they used
No. 89555
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>>89540> fans keep demanding for "photo proof!!" but i feel like they'll eat their words if dispatch actually releases themExactly.
These ratmy tweets are so infuriating to read, they don't know when to back down. You can show them the shit they wrote about other idols just yesterday and they just go "[insert name] who?" or they literally say they don't care because their oppar is the best and therefore allowed to do whatever he wants.
If one of the bts members dares to complain about stalker fans again, I think I'm gonna puke. It's solely their fault that 1000s of little kids turned into obsessed monsters trying to ruin every person who dares to love their oppars a little less than they do.
https://twitter.com/BJiminism/status/1260123409209409536 No. 89558
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>>89555agreed. dont support this stupid #apologizetomino hashtag but the fucking double standards of ratmys kek
if jk wasnt involved in this scandal they would be shitting all over the rest of the guys for not following social distancing and "look at our uwu princes so inspirational they even did a campaign" but now that their golden baby maknae is involved all they can do is tell people not to dish out criticism as if they wouldn't have jumped all over it lol
honestly people say nctfags and ratmys are the worst out of all of them but after this entire debacle ratmys are on a whole other level
No. 89564
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Ctfu and to think he's the most relevant member
No. 89565
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>>89564I know no one likes knet trans reposts but theyre really dragging the fuck out of them, Im kekin
No. 89567
>>89114not a fair pic to judge him on as everyone looks like squidward with that close up selfie shot. however he's really nothing special. very mediocre. you should check out his high school pics among his classmates. he did not stand out and looked like any other typical kid lol.
he's just an above avg guy whom big hit/ratmys carefully manages the image of, to appear millions of times more than he is.
problem is, all his fans judge him based on the highly edited, cherrypicked photos thinking he looks like that irl… like reaaally?!! although u can say the same for every other shilled idol/actor.
No. 89568
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>>89567lmfao digging up a post from 50 replies ago just to defend oppa and didn't sage, at least try to hide that youre a twitter ratmy
>>89564the best part is most international fans are just trolling him, theres obviously a couple oppa uwu fans defending him and protecting him but ive mainly seen memes instead of people trying to shield him unlike the ratmy population which has imploded
No. 89569
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>>89528Oh LOL this looks so messy. The account is accusing him of being a prostitute for dating a 40 yr. old. lmfao
No. 89572
>>89571exactly, they're not uwubabies when they take off their clothes on stage, i hate the narrative that they're "young and need to be protected" when its convenient, but "omo hot bias wrecker daddy" every other time
they're grown ass men who shouldve known better not to go out despite anything the government said or didnt say, just because they were allowed to didnt mean they should have, it was common sense not to go bar crawling especially since they shouldve known dispatch was probably prowling the area waiting to catch someone out
No. 89574
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Anyone know what the deal with this account is
https://twitter.com/mazedbybtsshe seems to have posted accurate information before and she posted screenshots of the tattoo girl's art that jk copied
is she just a troll or does she have actual inside information?
No. 89576
>>89574who knows, the korean population knew the rumors swirling about the itaewon group long before it broke the international segment
if anything i feel like she probably just prowls the lesser read korean forums and translates news, or just reads sasaeng rumors
she seems to be a ratmy so i would take a lot of stuff she says at heart, she's trying to say all of this was a coverup for nth room
if she is right though and dispatch is revealing bts stuff because of some contractual end im just excited for the tea and ratmy meltdown
No. 89586
>>89578i posted about it here>>89547 its delusional to think bts has the pull to cover up the nth room. the nth room is still at the top of searches for almost all korean news sites except the heavily entertainment oriented ones, and even then they are still on the board. besides, the nth room news right now are about a bunch of nobody losers who were running the room, there has been zero news about high ranking politicians etc participanting in these rooms, why the fuck would the media want to protect these nameless losers?
its stupid to believe that the general korean population over the age of 30 gives two shits about a couple of 20-something idols going to the bars during covid, thats like saying the usa used the kardashians to cover up the jeffrey epstein scandal
companies released statements because the rumors have been swirling for a while and dispatch likely had more evidence waiting on the backburner. they admitted it likely to prevent dispatch from releasing more pictures/evidence, not to fucking help korea cover up the biggest sex crime ring of the current decade
this is what i mean by fans being delusional as fuck, like your oppa is not a martyr, hes not used as some conspiracy scapegoat, hes just and idiot for not having common sense and is only sorry he got caught
No. 89590
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Jaehyun posted one of those lame ass hand written apologies
No. 89594
>>89588nth room news have already circulated internationally and garnered decent attention long before any of this idol stuff went down, the "shame" cat is long out of the bag
besides, isnt it better for koreas image now that theyve caught all the perpetrators? its not like they just released sentencing details and its a slap on the wrist, the new news is that they've caught the guys running the ring, how is that "shameful" lol
fucking fangirls trying to make excuses for everything their oppa does except admit they're wrong, kek
No. 89598
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>>89592i love how people seem to think handwritten equals sincere like…just because he had to actually sit down and write it doesnt mean he's actually remorseful
i love how fans see this and are like "omg he took the time to sit down and write this out for us hes actually sorry leave him alone" as if someone else didn't type it up, proofread, and PR the fuck out of it before giving it to him to copy word for word
he's only doing this because the 127 comeback is fucked and he's rapidly losing fans in korea where it matters, not because he's sorry lol
cant wait for jk to release a handwritten apology so ratmys can cry over how sad and sincere he is heh
related pic: at least some fans have a sense of humor about the situation
No. 89603
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>>89590I’ve seen international fans mainly joke about this situation on twitter but the comments under this apology are insane.
Do these fans really not understand that he’s an insanely privileged grown adult and not a
victim?
These male idols are so coddled it must be a fucking nightmare to be around them irl.
No. 89604
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>>89600i for one am loving the memes
No. 89605
File: 1589821993396.png (128.78 KB, 1033x853, Screenshot (43).png)
https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2020/05/teen-stories-look-at-difference-in-male.html>LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE IN MALE VS FEMALE IDOLS' CONTROVERSIES>I was too mad about the 97'er line gathering so I'm writing thisNice summary
No. 89607
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>>89605the worst controversy ive seen recently for a female was when jonghyun passed away and stans ripped into yeri for crying and looking sad like…have none of you lost anyone in your life? the nerve to say she was being unprofessional for holding back tears and not smiling on a red carpet literally days after someone died…
meanwhile the same stans are protecting their oppars for being irresponsible shits like "they didn't mean it" and "he apologized leave him alone" as if yeri had to apologize for mourning
No. 89615
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apparently kfans are out for blood, they want jaehyun to do a vlive to apologize hoping he'll cry on stream or something
rip to the nct comeback i guess
No. 89620
>>89607The irony of it all is that I bet they would rip into her if she seemed too stoic too. Women just can't win.
>>89615Is it just me or is Jaehyun getting cancelled the hardest out of the four? I don't see any of the other idols getting petitioned or having their merch sold en masse. I'm not excusing what he did at all, and I get that some of the other idols (i.e. Jungkook) have rabid fans that will excuse any sort of scandal he gets into, but I'm just wondering why Jaehyun seems to be getting the worst of it.
No. 89621
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lmfao ratmys need to make up their damn mind
now theyre praising BH for "not interfering with our idols's personal lives" while also simultaneously screeching for BH to "protect JK"
can you imagine if YG said this about the seungri situation? they would actually get wiped off the face of the entertainment industry
i literally cannot wrap my head around the ratmy fandom, literally no other fandom coddles and shields their idols like this
No. 89623
>>89273This fancam made me realize that Taeil is legitimately the worst performer that I've seen in the 6 years I've been into kpop. I'm not including trainees, but just consider that he's been a part of NCT for years and yet he's still this fucking bad and that ugly. SM is insane.
>>89430I can't believe that fans are so delusional to even try to defend them. It's just shameless for them to go out, bar hop and then break the 14-day quarantine, exposing themselves to their group members, staff, and potentially other people who they don't know. Maybe this is extreme but doesn't it cross their mind that someone could potentially catch it from them and die? Tbh someone so thoughtless doesn't deserve any of the support that these girls insist upon giving their idols. If you need to stan someone, focus on someone who is decently upright or at least doesn't let their scandalous behavior get out. Looks aren't even a reason imo because Taecyeon, the hottest male idol of all generations, is a better person than this.
>>89445He is ugly as sin, idk what you all see in him. The lower half of his face has got legit homo erectus vibes.
>>89569Holy shit, a 40 year old woman?! This is juicy af.
>>89619BAHAHAH imagine someone fucked up and left a name in the apology from a previous scandal of another idol. Could you imagine the outrage? God that would be fucking top tier kek.
No. 89627
>>89623i agree, taeil is not a performer. he has a great voice and does well live in terms of singing, but he literally cannot dance or do any of the other idol stuff and has zero stage presence whatsoever
>>89625exactly, he's a grown ass man who made some poor choices, if he's old enough to go out and party, he's old enough to own up to the consequences
i hate the duality these ratmy fans use, like whenever he's out doing stupid shit like getting tattoos and drinking he's "an adult and needs to be respected and people need to respect his privacy" but the moment he gets into some hot water they immediately flip to "uwu please protect him he didnt mean it"
i swear jungkook is going to be the next kangin or seungri, the guy's grown up being super coddled and entitled and likely thinks he can get away with anything as long as he pretends to be sad for a bit as his company and blind fans sweep it under the rug
No. 89628
>>89620I'm thinking it's because SM portrays him as this well-behaved "gentleman", so the fact that he's so careless must've really shattered their image of him lol
Not only do these silver spoon idols lack skill and talent,they lack common sense too.
No. 89629
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>>89628oh man even jaehyun's most notorious saesang fan has "cancelled" him or taken a break
this dude is getting absolutely roasted for this over in korea. jk is getting the most flack internationally primarily because ratmy fans are a bunch of autists, but jaehyun seems to actually be facing some trouble back home in korea
im sure SM is fucking sweating right now, jaehyun was the cash cow in nct's already very meager fanbase and now it's in shambles
No. 89637
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>>89634basically she got caught saying how all instagram models looked the same/had the same ps and they all had "no chins" bc of jaw shaving
not anything super controversial but she did get a little bit of shit for it considering she's an idol and also likely did ps
No. 89642
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>>89637Their necks make them look like Edward Avila
No. 89645
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This is what Kfans only care about
No. 89647
>>89645let's be honest, this is what the majority of fans care about.
honestly if this is the backlash jaehyun's gotten for understandably being a selfish ass, i wonder how bad it will get if he gets outed for dating
fans are already furious over an issue which kind of warrants some backlash, i can't imagine how bad it would be when it's over something irrational like dating or marriage, especially since half these hags genuinely think he'll date them just because they're koreans lol
No. 89649
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>>89648you're awfully optimistic about that, rabid fans dont just change in a few years, this
toxic fanculture of "oppa is my bf" has been going on since gen 1 idols
nct may not have a huge fanbase like exo, but they're still a SM group and thus gather tons of delulu SM fans. look at chen, who is literally one of the least popular EXO members and he still managed to generate so much anger and salt over getting married
the only way i can see them not getting backlash for dating is if they pull a changmin and literally date when they're 35, if they're still in their 20s there is no way, and i cant see these guys keeping it under wraps for the next 10 years
No. 89654
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>>89653Same anon from above you. Apparently, they went to a club called MADE, and it's super sleazy.
No. 89655
>>89550I like the mv and how weird it is. I kind of like the song. It's catchy but bland, so it's not as annoying. tbh it kind of sounds like a toned down version of bts's "ddaeng"
God that song's pure cringe# . The guy's yellow hair is so ugly.
No. 89656
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>>89651not surprising, jaehyun is the most popular member by quite a margin. i believe the second most popular is jaemin, and with all the shit he's gotten himself into the jaehyun situation sparked the boiling point for everything else to bubble over. not to mention jaehyun's molded himself into this "perfect prince" image set by SM, and that all came crumbling down when he revealed that he's just another irresponsible spoiled 20-something with this bar situation
there's only so much search clearing the small group of fans who do that can do at one time, and they've had four separate fires to put out in the span of a week (jaemin dating, jaemin r-word, jaehyun covid-97, now potentially doyoung dating) so everything is falling through the cracks
im sure knets and sasaengs have a ton of dirt on these guys, it'll be interesting to see what else surfaces now that a lot of fans are turning on them
No. 89660
>>89657its already come out they got a vip table/lounge, they definitely went to try and get their dicks wet
i really really hope dispatch just gets tired of these oppapologists freaking out at them and releases the pictures they're demanding
i dont get the fan logic like…the company already admitted they were there, why are you demanding picture proof lol you're just setting up for a bigger disaster
No. 89670
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>>89665i believe i saw seventeen lost around 10,000 fans off their weverse platform and one active fansite went on break, but overall the response has been relatively mild compared to the other three which is to be expected considering he's definitely the least popular
>>89666this 1000x over. i remember there was an anon last thread who insisted she was super tall and a 7/10 foreigner in korea, it was the most cringe self insert bs ive ever seen but it got one of the most glorious ban messages as a result, god bless the mod team
the truth is 90% of your korean oppas dont want to fuck a foreigner especially when there's so many korean girls around lmao
this self insert "uwu hot foreigner" bs needs to go
No. 89674
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Lol
No. 89676
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Now they're trying to suspend Dispatch's twitter account. They've already suspended one but it was the wrong one kek fucking weirdos they really think they're doing something
No. 89678
>>89676i saw that too, does mass reporting an account actually work? i know they took down some other account that had the name dispatch in it but it wasn't the correct one
if anything i hope this pisses dispatch off and they release pics or something, kpop stans are the definition of "shoot the messenger", this is mainly the work of ifans though, korean fans seem to be directing their anger and disappointment rightly to the idols although obviously a minority are still mindlessly shielding and trying to trend positive hashtags
No. 89690
>>89651Jaehyun is from Sm there the "perfect" robot-like idols stem from (Taeyong being an odd exception), so fans expect him to act accordingly. Him additionally having a princely image doesn't help either. Plus nct fans are old women, they're bound to be more mature than your average preteen ratmy.
Bts and Seventeen's style is a lot more "modern", not like the old stereotype of what a classic idol is supposed to be and especially Jk already had a wilder reputation beforehand thanks to his tattoos.
It seems like nobody on here follows Eunwoo but I'd guess that his fans react similar to Jaehyun's, since he was also supposed to be clean and perfect.
But tbh, I understand them…? What they did is a big deal, maybe some fans lost loved ones to corona, you don't have to forgive their behavior.
>>89664>you realize their biggest cash cow also got outed as well rightYou can't possibly mean Nct, do you? kek Of course what ratmys say is bullshit but losing one Nct member (or entire Nct) wouldn't really hurt Sm
No. 89696
>>89690i meant jaehyun is nct's cash cow, lol sorry for not being clear
end of the day all of them deserve to get a bit of flack and people making up conspiracy theories and protecting their babies need to fuck off
No. 89700
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apparently this is a translated list of demands that kfans want out of jaehyun
seungri didnt even get half of this shit for what he did, fans seriously have their priorities twisted
that being said i cannot wait for his eventual dating scandal
No. 89703
>>89702no, it's because seungri's scandal was way worse than this. a sex crime will end anybody's career
we already know kfans are insane and demanding. this is a standard procedure response to a situation like this lol
No. 89714
>>89710i love how kfans and ifans are two opposite sides of the spectrum….you have kfans demanding him to basically apologize and sacrifice his firstborn, and then you have ifans trending #weloveyou and saying he did nothing wrong
and i guess the normal fans are just making memes? lol
No. 89716
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No. 89718
>>89716please anon this is a random blind item from some unknown livejournal that's probably fanfic
if dispatch revealed it then it may hold even the tiniest bit of water…some random website with zero proof? fuck off and get off these trash fanfic sites lol
No. 89721
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>>89700So…
>don't go out, don't do shady stuff and tell your fans you love themSounds like a pretty easy deal if it helps placate them?
I love that the comments on all articles are only talking about jk kek
I'm by no means a fan of jaehyun, nctfags can be annoying as hell but they're still the lesser evil compared to ratmys.
See pic, you know it's bad when people hate on others simply because they're with you… Koreans never let go of their "physiognomy is science" and "birds of a feather" stuff, he's branded with that forever.
After his last scandal he had to chop off his hair, will he be forced to remove his fugly tats now? lol
No. 89726
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>>89719this isnt a dating rumor or light rumor to be throwing around, this literally would shake the industry, especially if its a larger company
do you really think foreign gossip sites/"insiders" would know this without the news circulating in korea first? there have been zero news about this in korea, unless it's getting severely covered up to the point where no korean insider has caught a whiff of it
>>89721ratmys cry foul that their poor jk baby is getting singled out, but this dude literally has the most scandals out of the four who got caught, he doesnt exactly have a great public image
of course he's gonna be the one they all shit on first, but ratmys cant accept jk is a fuckboy and are just demanding he be protected bc uwubaby
related: gross ass ratmys photoshopping baby binkies on grown men bc baby
No. 89729
>>89726>>>do you really think foreign gossip sites/"insiders" would know this without the news circulating in korea first?Like I said, idk how trustworthy CDAN is or who/where their sources are, I just know it's one of the biggest blind item websites. And the point of blind items is that the general public doesn't know that information. Unless you live in Korea and frequent Korean blind items websites, I doubt you would know what has been revealed there.
Anyway who knows? I don't think it's true, since a female idol coming out against a CEO could possibly ruin their career. AFAIK in Korea they shame
victims of things like sexual assault.
No. 89731
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now we know why the bp album was delayed kek
apparently treasure is debuting in july
No. 89743
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The reporter who broke the burning sun/jjy molka chatrooms apparently is preparing to expose more celebrities, supposedly associated with nth room
Man the kpop fandom has been on fire lately with scandals, but once this is done there will actually be oppas getting cancelled
No. 89752
>>89550I'm not a fan of all those wasted tomatoes.
Do koreans not have a problem with wasting food? Afaik some asian countries do.
No. 89783
>>89731jeez, i know all of them were in a survival show (which was like 2 years ago, get your shit together yg) but cant companies debut like 4 member groups anymore? i hate how the standard for the current kpop groups is closer to 10 than 5 members
>>89743cant wait!
>>89662b-but anon im a 7/10 with pale skin
and big boobs..
No. 89800
>>89783i know, i dont know why companies dont just focus on debuting 5-6 member groups who are actually talented (and maybe include 1 useless number for stan attractors), instead of the current formula of 3 competent singers, 2 competent dancers, and 5 other various "vocalists" and "rappers" who are all there just to fill space and look pretty
not to mention the profit sharing for larger groups in the beginning is probably also ass
No. 89817
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lol cha eunwoo posted a handwritten apology, basically carbon copied from all the other ones and scrubbed pr-squeaky clean
im assuming jk and mingyu will follow suit
No. 89818
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>>89817same anon, just wanted to post his original note because not gonna lie, he has pretty handwriting
who knows if he was the one who actually wrote it lol
No. 89827
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so much for being a golden maknae. netizens are absolutely tearing him apart.
No. 89829
>>89827i think the petition is mainly started by people not in the fandom, but its mainly ratmy's fault for vehemently denying that their precious maknae did anything wrong
either way this has gotten too big for him to sweep it under the rug, and the rabid "protect baby" movement has massively backfired. this will probably go away for the other three relatively quickly, but will just add on to the laundry list of stupid shit he's done and follow him for a while, his public image has taken a run to the shitter after his various scandals
ofc i doubt BH cares that much, after all they make more than enough off their giant ratmy fanbase as is
No. 89830
>>89827he has been
problematic for a while now, and now finally it’s taking into effect. about time he gets off his high arse and realize even he can't get away with dumb shit.
No. 89832
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>>89637i always wondered how they tell each other apart.
No. 89837
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NCT's comeback vlive and video are being released in 15 minutes, it'll be interesting to see if they disable comments on the vlive, because jaehyun is going to get absolutely destroyed otherwise
honestly im surprised SM didnt just pull him from promos to "reflect", but i guess they think letting him take the heat for a bit will probably make it pass quicker
also, twitter calling the entire situation COVID-97 will never not be funny to me
No. 89840
>>89839i watched it for a bit and it does seem to be pre-recorded based off the multiple camera angles
jaehyun doesn't seem to be speaking a ton, but he literally has the personality of wet cardboard so that doesn't really mean much
man, i was lowkey excited too, we'll have to see in the coming days.
No. 89842
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Isn't the quality too good for a livestream?
No. 89844
>>89843oh i forgot about that one! its honestly great
for a casual nct/kpop fan who could care less about poor oppa, i gotta say the fucking memes that have come out of this entire debacle have been absolute gold
No. 89850
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>>89842this definitely is a prerecord, the quality and camera angles give it away
>>89845if dispatch and BH truly had a deal that expired, im sure theyre going to be digging up a ton of shit in the next few weeks. BTS has turned into the "too big to fail" cocky group with shitty fans, so im sure the rest of the kpop fanbase would go nuts over them getting knocked down a few pegs
i for one want something juicier…come on dispatch, give us a maknae line dating rumor with another idol/celebrity
>>89846exactly, taemin is known in some saesang circles and rumors have leaked that he has a messy personal life (nothing concrete though), but at least he's smart enough to keep his shit under wraps which is literally the basic common sense operating procedure for a celebrity
meanwhile jk is out here getting hand tattoos, getting into car accidents (it may not be drunk driving, but he still managed to run into a parked car which just shows negligence) and get caught clubbing in a time where he definitely should not have gone clubbing
ratmys can argue all they want how its his right to date and get tattoos but then he needs to face the backlash that the community gives him, deserved or not because he's getting paid to be in the public eye
No. 89854
>>89853wow, this is bad. i thought they were releasing the video as well, but i guess that isn't coming for another 6 or so hours?
honestly this song is so bad, it doesn't even feel like its complete in places, it's just jumbled noise
i do like their ballad though, it seems to be the only decent song that they've done recently
No. 89859
>>89856This has already been discussed in the thread, if u wanna scroll up n read about it.
But i honestly don't think a couple of idols going to a club shortly before a virus outbreak will overshadow the news of a nationwide sex ring lmao.
No. 89864
>>89856You people really think the avg Korean cares that much about some kiddos going to a club? Naver comments =/= opinion of the entire Korean population.
Comparing a traumatizing and shocking scandal like the Nth room to insignificant idol shit is ridiculous.
No. 89866
>>89853Man they really did yuta dirty on this repackage lol.
>>89862It's a literal hot mess of a song
No. 89867
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>>89853I was curious what the nctfags thought about it and of course everyone just claimed it was "futuristic" and "before its time" so I guess we are just too stupid to see that this mess is actually a masterpiece kek
Also found this comment and I have to laugh. Destroy dispatch for what? Revealing that your perfect baby oppars aren't as pure as you thought?
No. 89869
>>89853I feel like Sm is planning on dropping these guys with the shit songs they're giving them lately
5years and no hit song from them
What happened to ''All SM artists are unknown when they start up'' ????
Is Nct still in their rookie phase or what lol
No. 89871
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Knetz are planning to attack the ''Itaewon F4 97 boys'' LMFAO
They'll attack Nct's vlives
Jk and Mingyu on weverse
and Cha Eunwoos instagram
this is hilarious
No. 89873
>>89872Better than the fags on Twitter tinfoiling that dispatch and the korean gov has an agenda to cover up nth room with this vanilla bullshit
Im barfing at the amount of crazy fangirls on twitter defending horny guys that went to a club during social distance period
god forbid if cockvid-97 squad was females they would trend this all over
gross
No. 89879
>>89876Its cause of western porn lol alot of foreign cultures share the same mindset about white women sadly
but koreans do have a weird thing with russian girls too its kinda scary lol theres alot of korean celebs with russian gfs
No. 89880
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apparently sm is debuting two new groups this year
a gg and a boy group
Guess SM is fed up with Nct's ugly asses too lol
No. 89913
>>89882Nah
but we'll see when the year end comes.
No. 89915
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>>89856yes because its a stupid fucking theory. this is like saying the usa used camilla cabello and shawn mendes or whatever his name is dating in order to cover up the epstein scandal….its completely illogical to assume the general population (forget korea) gives a shit about celebrities and what they do day to day.
its a tinfoil fangirl theory made up by fangirls who literally dont do anything other than live in their kpop bubble and dont engage in world news or anything that isnt kpop, because any normal person would realize celebrities at the end of the day aren't shit and dont have the pull to cover something as big and controversial as an underage sex slave ring
the only way this mightve been even remotely possible is if there was some entertainment industry scandal, because then the demographic of overlap would be much larger. if people were saying this was used to cover up a yg embezzlement/corruption scandal then yes, it may make a little more sense.
>>89894can we fucking stop with the "theyll fuck white girls!!" shit, like, they'll fuck anything as long as it's hot enough, i dont get why stupid ass fangirl anons keep bringing up this "hot white foreigner" narrative like it means oppa will fuck you. the lowest common denominator isnt any race, it's how hot they are lol
>>89904yeah this was mainly organized by antis and its getting no traction, but its hilarious to see ratmys frothing at the mouth about it regardless
No. 89918
>>89915I get your point but it's been claimed that the entertainment industry IS involved, Cho Joo Bin said he had female celebrities as "his slaves" and apparently male athletes and celebrities were paid members of the chat
I don't have an opinion about the theory tho, just wanted to clarify that
No. 89920
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the newest fangirl defense ive seen is "why was dispatch out if everyone should be following social distancing"
i dont get fangirls, dispatch being out doesn't invalidate your oppas also being out at the bar, its not like dispatch broke into their homes and secretly recorded them having a house party
all this blind defending is going to just blow the entire issue up worse. ofc its mainly done by ratmys and nctfags, i honestly havent seen too much noise from eunwoo fans or seventeen fans, especially considering eunwoo is getting a decent amount of flack
No. 89923
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apparently a bunch of blinks are bombarding kim kardashian's twitter for "copying jennie" as if posing for 50 random uninspired photos in front of a bland ass wall was something jennie invented
if ratmys take the crown for most delusional idiot boy group fans, blinks are definitely the worst girl group fans by a long shot
i honestly dont think there's any other girl group out there with shittier reeree fans than BP, unless im wrong?
No. 89926
>>89925shes batshit ugly, its not like the anon lied
Jk ugly too, ugly people deserve eachother lol
No. 89927
>>89924i just pulled the meme pic for the dispatch post, lol but if you even peek into stan twitter its filled to the brim with ratmys crying about how dispatch was out breaking stay at home recommendations and how they deserve to be shut down bc poor oppars just wanted to hang out with friends
the jennie one is not a joke…if you go to the original post the entire comment section is just delusional blinks screaming "jennie did it first!!" and "she wishes she was jennie!!"
https://mobile.twitter.com/cockm0ss/status/1262470290283597824 No. 89928
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>>89925Yes. I cry myself to sleep every night because I didn't get to fuck this.
No. 89932
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>>89928It's funny because out of the Itaewon 4™ he's the ugliest too. They shouldn't have kicked out Yugyeom, it makes Jungkook's visual shortcomings that more apparent.
No. 89938
>>89935thats kind of what im feeling too…the entire thing feels so low budget
the weird like "artsy" smudge shot closeups, the same chrome set with minimal decor, and the general lack of anything cohesive going on makes me feel like SM kind of just rushed this video without any thought or budget bc they kind of knew it was gonna flop
also taeyong's whispering is 100x more annoying when you have to watch his cringe face along with it
SM truly has lost its touch if this is the shit they're putting out, if a nugu group put this out people would shit all over it for low production and cringe but since its SM fans will praise how its groundbreaking and artistic lol
No. 89940
>>89933This feels very… SMP. Like something Suju or TVXQ would've released as a japanese single in 2011, except a bit "cooler" I guess.
The low-budget fits this idea as well. I don't hate it actually, I like it when kpop gets corny lol. But if it wasn't for the scandal this would be one of their most forgettable releases tbh.
No. 89943
>>89940it feels very much like old SM music videos filmed in the notorious "SM set boxes", but it's just so dark and boring, not to mention the psychedelic artsy smudge shots just add to the overall absurdity
the weird thing is their b-side is definitely more public music friendly and still maintains the "electropop" concept theyre trying, i wonder why they insisted on this mess of a title track. the bside is nowhere amazing or groundbreaking, but at least its easier on the ears
No. 89950
>>89943Yeah, I just listened to it. It's ok. I have never found SM's boygroups sans EXO to have albums that are actually worthwhile to listen to. But I guess that's just personal preference because most people would argue SHINee to have some of the best stuff out there. I just hate their vocals which is why I loved Superhuman so much. That was SHINee without SHINee vocals! Great stuff.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I find NCT's musical direction to be very all over the place and frustrating, and I think SM's marketing has no idea what to do with them either LOL. Abandoning the AKB48-light concept for NCT hurt the brand imo. There's so much you could do and you give us… something that your other groups have done a thousand times again? Go full experimental, move them to a sublabel and stop being a coward, SM!
>>89947No, I think it's because their music is the absolute worst out of all the big 3 bgs. If you listen to JYP "singers" voluntarily you objectively have a mental and cognitive deficiency.
No. 89957
>>89950i also think theres just way too much filler in nct which hurts them, they have so many useless members who would never have made the cut if we were looking at sm standards pre-exo
people like johnny, jungwoo, yuta, winwin, etc. would never have made it into a group outside of nct. the nct concept works (for sm's nepotism collection) because they can "swap" out members as they need while still gaining the pockets of delulu fans that the useless members attract…just look at the newest songs, the comments are already filled with "omg sm did johnny dirty again with only one line" as if the guy can hold a note beyond three words
of course thats also why nct flops, because they shove all these useless members into groups and give them one line to placate fans while also just coming out with shit songs that can't back it up
>>89954i nominate either>>89154
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>>88703 No. 89960
>>89957Jungwoo and Yuta would've 100% made it onto any other group. They're nowhere near as talentless as the other two
>>89959This
No. 89962
>>89960i think so too, but i meant more so if you considered SM standards for TVXQ and Shinee, they wouldn't have made the cut
they wouldve done perfectly fine as a lead vocalist in another, smaller group but they just get lost because SM wants nct to be a small elementary school class in terms of members while also literally only pushing two to three people
No. 89963
>>89957No, you're right. Which is why I think they should've tried to build this project up under a sublabel after NCT U and NCT Dream debuted. Dump all the kids you have on there, shuffle them around and find out who has the strongest fanbase. Then you can form a group with the cashcows without all the fat 127 has. I think they just got cold feet because the public wasn't here for that kind of concept, but the first mistake they made was thinking they were ever going to be mainstream in the first place. Very arrogant thinking.
That said, Johnny was around when EXO was formed and didn't make the cut so why they held onto him I have no idea. Jungwoo is a terrible vocalist but at least he's pretty. Yuta is.. an acquired taste, visually, but he's decent enough of a singer and he's their only jap, so at least he's got that going for him. Winwin is cute but why he was ever in 127 I will never understand. Could've just put him in a few NCT U singles if you wanted to build hype for WayV.
>>89959Yes LMFAO
No. 89964
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>>89953And the fact that both emphasized that they only went to a bar and restaurant because they don't want their fans to find out oppa was at the club lol
No. 89966
>>89963yes, the johnny situation baffles me. people say its because he was so well known and had a relationship with the EXO guys that SM felt like they had to debut him but…hansol was also a huge trainee (and even was in nct life) and he left while arguably having more talent than johnny
at least yuta and jungwoo have stan attractors and can kind of sing, johnny literally only has his height and his "im from chicago" going for him
winwin was 100% added to nct 127 to be a stan attractor visual, he's a fantastic traditional dancer but the subtle movements of traditional dance dont translate well into the dance nct usually tries to do. he did grab a ton of fans though, so im surprised sm uses him more like you said to get attention for wayv
No. 89971
>>89970fans are trying to hype him up even more now with the scandal…
he raps like jaemin…he just talks aggressively over a beat and fans eat it up because he's pretty
No. 89973
>>89971>>89970Well his rapping IS better than his singing LOL It's sad because he sounds like a more-easy-on-the-ears-Baekhyun, if only he had an ounce of the pipes that faggot has.
I mean why even have a baritone in your group if you barely let him sing in his range?
No. 89974
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nct fans are turning on each other now LOL some fan is trying to justify the jaehyun situation by saying other nct members were spotted out shopping and eating…as if going to a cafe or restaurant where you can reasonably stand far from other people and wear masks is the same as going to a packed bar where you're toe to toe with 500 other people
im loving it, the fandom is literally tearing itself down from the inside
No. 89975
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>>89954if u know u know <333333333
No. 89982
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Wtf did they expect? Most of these letters aren't even written by the idols themselves. maybe someone of the staff member write this stuff, they are really getting dragged. oh well, it will die down in a while
No. 89985
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Lmfao nctzens arguing over line distribution as always
No. 89988
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>>89976>>89975>>89954can't we have the best of both worlds?
No. 89989
>>89988i change my mind as the jisung op and cast my vote for this
this is fucking amazing kek
No. 89993
>>89988GODDAMN YES
why didnt i think of that LMFAOOOO
No. 89996
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some nugu girl group member is getting shit on for underage drinking and bullying and not gonna lie, i just wanted to share the picture because their album/song title summarizes her nugu situation so well
No. 89998
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>>89997they look nothing alike…their fans are delusional lol
if anything i feel wayv xiaojun looks more like jonghyun, and that's still a reach
No. 90001
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>>89933Why does SM give NCT and Baekhyun a comeback in the same week? Self sabotage?
Does anybody remembers pic related thot? She posted this cosplay a couple months ago and then followed up with crying posts because she supposedly got sooo much hate,
triggering a bunch of neckbeards to protect her from jelly fat feminazis.
http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2020/05/berry-goods-jo-hyun-calls-lovelyzs.html>Very Good's Jo Hyun, "Lovelyz's Mijoo has a chopstick body… I shoot underwear CFs"Disgusting pickme confirmed, just because Mijoo doesn't go around flaunting balloon tits doesn't mean that she has a bad figure.
Seriously, what's the goal of such lowlife nugus? Their desperate attempts will never give them attention (other than males fapping to her fancam), she'd be better of just being a streamer. All groups with odd marketing ploys always failed.
No. 90006
>>90001i dont know who she is, but she looks good, and nugu girl group members do the girl group thing for a few years and then transition to streaming, so she's just building her fanbase early
that comment to mijoo is fucking mean though, what is it with women putting down other women, its not like the industry doesnt already do it enough, why do people who work together and should understand the struggles do it too
i guess shes just jealous and petty because mijoo is well known, but that comment definitely backfired hard on her
No. 90008
>>90001lol this is so fucked and reeks of jealousy/pick-meism. bodyshaming another idol from a more recognized group just because you're the only one in your group that got more than five male fans to fap off to your fancams is just pathetic as hell.
>>90003exactly, they're really unfortunate looking except maybe Soobin, who's just a poor man's BTOB's Minhyuk. huening kai is just so scary looking and it still makes me laugh that ratmys tried to say he looked like marius yo and finn wolfhard. marius and finn sweeties, i'm so sorry.
No. 90011
>>90010i want this jisung screencap on every picture whenever oppa gets caught being a pos…especially now that they may release celebrity names for n room
>>90004i mean just because its their japanese release doesnt automatically mean its not worth listening to, nflying has done some decent japanese stuff
No. 90015
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wow yuta got demoted to lead dancer from main dancer. first the chin and now his job credentials
No. 90021
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(someone make a thread and link it)
https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2020/05/enter-talk-ncts-v-app-atmosphere.htmlApparently it was live and not prerecorded after all lol
Jaehyuns face reading the comments
Knetz comment:
''ANYONE CAN TELL FROM JUNG JAEHYUN'S FACE THAT HE WAS LOSING IT'' No. 90024
>>90021interesting, considering how high quality the stream was and the multiple angles i was sure it was prerecorded
its funny how a lot of us couldnt tell if he was upset or just in default jaehyun mode because the dude doesnt have a personality outside of looking "princely"
one of the best comments i saw on pann was the one where the username was cha eunwoo and the message was "im in a hurry so i copied yours (note), i'll treat you to food next time in itaewon"
you gotta give it to these fans, theyvre vicious but their comments are all funny as fuck
No. 90031
>>90027exactly, these are grown men who prioritized a night of fun and fucking around over the safety of everyone they live and work with, they deserve to get a bit of shit for it
fans are coddling their poor babies but don't stop to think that their oppas action put all their other precious members at risk. can you imagine if one of them (god forbid) actually was positive and gave it to another member? these guys are lucky they didn't get sick or get anyone else sick, or the backlash wouldve been infinitely worse. i think if they actually got someone else sick, they probably would have to actually leave the group. COVID right now is not something to sniff at
No. 90033
>>90021>Before 5:00, all fandoms agreed to change their nicknames to something related to Itaewon>[Cha Eunwoo] "Jaehyun-ah I'm in a hurry so I copied a bit from yours is it ok?? I'll treat you next time we have a meal at Itaewon ok?>[Jun Jungkook] "Ha…. Pick up your phone… I need to know what I should write for my apology…"Lmao
Commenters say this is a witchhunt, but they literally only made let's hang out/eat in itaewon jokes. It must be so frustrating for korean fans to constantly deal with ifans spamming
>[+198, -1] Are NCTizens going to join our Vlive when our group will do it too..? I don't know when they will do it, but we have so many chodings + I-roaches that we can't show them how spicy our comments can get, it will just be inoffensive commentsHopefully kek
No. 90034
>>90033i joined the vlive for around 5 minutes yesterday and i have to admit, it was almost all ifans spamming hearts and "we love you", there was barely any korean let alone actual jokes
fans who are saying this is a witchhunt/cyberbullying are crazy, there were literally at least 7-10 spam positive conments for every 1 korean comment, let alone a itaewon related one
No. 90044
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>>90021these comments are pretty funny, he's getting made fun of but these arent horrible death threats other groups have gotten.
No. 90046
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>>89933ouch. The song gets slightly better after that first awful whisper vocals/chanting vocals section, but this music video… Kick It by comparison had a much clearer concept, this one feels like a mash-up of different ideas (like the song really…)
I thought some parts were ok but others stood out and seemed like they were unfinished concepts their directors were trying out. This punching shot…lol
No. 90048
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>>90044holy shit antifans are insane…whoever wrote that needs to check into a mental hospital, i cant imagine reading that comment on a vlive and being forced to pretend to not be shaken by it
this has been touched on before, but the amount of hate female idols get for doing normal things is so disproportionate to what male idols get, and most female idols dont get the manic shielding from fans
yeri debuted so young too and got so much hate from the community for literally no reason…not to mention the entire jonghyun situation
i heard she was also targeted by sasaengs because she tried to block cameras/told off sasaengs for following minors when the nct dream kids were still training, so sasaengs hated her for that
the double standard between female and male idols is honestly staggering, i dont know how the girls do it
No. 90059
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this is how the club that Jaehyun,Jungkook,Cha Eunwoo and Mingyu went to looks like.
That club has also had a racism scandal.
https://notkoreatimes.com/?p=806 No. 90061
>>90059if this is true and this gets revealed, the itaewon f4 are gonna get a whole new wave of backlash
all of their apologies have only referred to them going to a "restaurant and bar", whereas dispatch has said they went to a entertainment center point "c" which i assume is this seedy ass club
the kfans are already circling for blood, the moment its confirmed the oppas went to a club with lots of girls and zero social distancing precautions they'll jump on the "social distancing" excuse to shit on these dudes for trying to get their dick wet
i hope dispatch has pictures kek
No. 90088
Just a clarification.
>>90061Its already been kinda revealed that they went there. Its a open secret among korean fans or korean antis that they have been there.
Just because international fans dont know about this or are pretending to not know doesnt mean its not revealed. Korean fans already know but i agree i hope some pictures get leaked.
>>90075Yes the site is satire and i know that but the racism is real. The site just added their humor commentary to it. You can check for yourselves if you want and you will find articles of other sites mentioning racism in bars in itaewon.
Racism in korean clubs/bars is quite common.
No. 90122
>>90114this should just teach you not to believe the image the idols sell lol
im sure theyre all vastly different behind the scenes and wouldnt trust any of them to be even remotely what they portray to the public
No. 90132
>>90122yes but lets be honest here NOBODY and i repeat NOBODY would expect a guy like Cha Eunwoo to go clubbing in the worst clubs.
Like Cha Eunwoo build his career of being bland,boring and being the male version of suzy.
No. 90137
>>90132theres a difference between going "oh wow i didnt expect cha eunwoo because i thought they just put him back in his bio pod after they're done for the day" and going "im so disappointed because oppa is so nice and could never touch a dirty girl"
end of the day these dudes are trained for literally years to sell an image and fangirls eat that shit up
also i thought ratmys liked to say there was no way jk would ever do that stuff bc he's afraid of women…ratmy where u at
No. 90145
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>>90137lol ratmys still believe in that bs.
I mean its quite obvious that Jungkook likes women a LOT.
I mean he even had a scandal when he was 19 because he kept on staring at a womans chest….
No. 90162
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>>90015And got zero lines in this comeback.
I think this knctzen says it best
No. 90168
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>>90001Mijoo’s body line is pretty nice and not chopstick-y at all imo. Men love the nlog act though, so Jo Hyun won’t lose any fans over it since her only fans were simps in the first place kek.
No. 90175
>>90162honestly knetz are the fucking best when it comes to unique ways of insulting idols
between this and f4 itaewon they must be having a field day
No. 90210
>>90204Yeah, but Yuta is a better…everything than Johnny, so I can sort of see why his fans are pissed. Also, Jungwoo has no business being in the vocal lines, he sounded terrible in their concert.
SM is pretty fair with line distribution though, the most talented always tend to have most lines. Except in SuperM where they give Kai a bunch of lines even though he can't sing or rap, just for seniority privilege.
No. 90211
>>90210its not an accomplishment to be better than johnny though…the dude trained for 10 years and cant even manage to sing his one line on tune when they're performing
sm does ok with line distribution, and with nct there are bound to be people with little to no lines because theres only so much to work with and too many members to distribute to
i would get the complaint if nct were a 5 member group, and one member had no lines, but with 10 members, stans need to realize their faves arent getting lines because they literally cant even get the shit theyre given correct
No. 90214
>>90204Idk…I think yuta can decently sing (vid related). But I guess he's still relatively weak compared to the vocal line and combined with fact that he's not popular, I can see why they don't give him lines.
I don't think it's that much of a "foreigner discrimination" thing like fans like to call out.
No. 90248
>>90247my second part of the comment said that one anon was probably disappointed about them going to a sleazy club, that goes with what you are saying?
you can make fun of them, but this is also the general thread. there are some that are disappointed that the "image" that was being sold of these guys is crumbling. they got as much right to bitch about it here like you can bitch and laugh about it?
No. 90250
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Here we go, apparently TARA Hyomin was out attending a birthday party on May 9 so after the itaewon incident broke and people were told to stay inside
Does not bode well for her, the combination of female idol + actually defying social distancing orders means for a huge blowout
No. 90251
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>>90021>Apparently it was live and not prerecorded after allDid I miss something or there's nothing in that link for this claim? I watched a small segment of the stream and he seemed pretty unaffected.
On a related note, does anyone have the now deleted vid in pic related? Apparently, the accompanying audio had a song about murder?
No. 90301
>>90236I can't think of any. Maybe the BTS and Gfriend wasn't as random as people thought since their agencies ended up being somewhat connected?
>>90250There are still people trying to say that the itaewon 4 did nothing wrong because it wasn't illegal, but since she is a woman she won't have that shield
No. 105991
New thread:
>>>/m/105987 the last thread was locked