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>>87608 No. 90315
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The lyrics that Taeyong wrote for NCT's song…………..What kind of Christian Grey fantasy is this?
No. 90317
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this is my favorite thread pic ever, the anon who created it deserves a fucking award
also apparently jaehyun stans are trying to show support by spamming his instagram with positive comments, i love how they admit they cant read korean and warn other delulus not to "like korean comments with hearts"
kfans are trolling the fuck out of them with long messages filled with hearts so that these ifans who cant read korean think its a support post and like it when its actually kfans fucking with jaehyun lmfao
why cant these fans just let this blow over instead of trying to protect their oppa…there is no way any of these dudes are even venturing close to looking at their socials right now
No. 90319
>>90315"cosplay snow white, i like it, let me be your hobbit"
………..
No. 90323
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>>90315taeyong's lyrics have always been weird, his whiplash lyrics are also similarly 50-shades of grey-esque, but in a really awkward cringey way. none of his lyrics are "hot", theyre honestly just kinda dirty and weird in a "oh man this dude's trying to be sexy but its just awkward" way
he also decided to say whiplash was inspired by his sister, so the nct fandom clowns him a ton for saying that
honestly him and mark write some dirty lyrics, and considering mark's such an uptight church boy it's actually quite funny. i wonder what mark's pastor dad thinks about some of the stuff he's written kek
No. 90327
>>90326yup the delulu international fanbase is honestly admirable with how absolute batshit blind they are
with nth room potentially digging up celebrities and thus potentially shithead idols, i cannot wait for the inevitable meltdown if a remotely welll-known idol gets outed for being a piece of human garbage
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>>90332yeah it seems kfans have reached their boiling point with these oppapologist ifans, they seem to be having a good time taking the piss out of them though and taking advantage of the general lack of intelligence
theyve baited these ifans several times already into reposting or liking long korean messages filled with emojis that look like fan support messages but are actually just messages shitting on the idol. of course ifans just see tons of korean and tons of hearts and assume it's a support comment as if all of our computers dont have built in google translate that literally takes two clicks
jk is definitely going to get hit the worst, ifans for eunwoo/jaehyun/mingyu arent shielding as rabidly as ratmys, and jk has the worst public image out of the four
i dont know why ratmys cant comprehend that blind shielding their oppa just makes the situation worse lol. they are honestly a fucking cult at this point
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To all the people saying the club F4 went to isn't racist because it was a joke article…just google the club and read its reviews. They all say that no foreigners are allowed. So, resident ratmys and nctfags: your oppars aren't fucking white girls like you, they specifically go to places there they don't have to see any foreign faces…
No. 90393
>>90337>>90342Ty anon.
So what will international kpop fans think of their ''woke kings'' who are going to not only seedy clubs but also clubs that are racist.
So funny howinternational kpop fans hail these idols as wokezz but in reality these idols hate them that they are going to clubs that specifically dont allow foreigners…..
No. 90398
>>90394ok keep being delusional.
That article was a joke (since im guessing you go the idea from there that they allow white women)
In reality they dont allow any foreigner no matter the gender. Oopar will never fuck you.
No. 90405
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What does this even mean? Will they put holograms of idols in the hotel room?
No. 90411
>>90408It was a Japanese book abou an Asian man having sex with a black woman and a black man, I read the book a while ago
Basically the black girl was fetishized to fit this jungle fever stereotype and the black guy got rimmed by the asian mc lmfaoooo
Its called Almost transparent blue, from 1972 I think.
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>>90411Oh yeah here's one of the excerpts of the book in case you want to reread it lol.
No. 90437
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>>90340He was definitely staring, he even did the mouth thing. I guess this is why he runs away from women, so he doesnt get caught staring at their butts/boobs lol
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>>90390I actually think the thumbnail is pretty cute, if the song is good, there's no need for an expensive or "deep" mv.
>>90413Wtf did I just read?! How did the author even manage to get such disgusting bullshit published?
>>90437Lmao even a skinny korean lady is towering over those twinks
https://www.allkpop.com/forum/threads/pc-jungkook-in-trouble-for-looking-at-tiddies.114905/Also, yikes…"poor little jk can't help it if this slut is dressed this way"…
No. 90458
>>90454yikes the defending by fans is something else…you can argue every man "likes looking at boobs" but its different when he's openly ogling her on camera lol
can you imagine if a interviewer even glanced at oppa's crotch for long enough to make a gif? ratmys would go insane screaming sexual harrassment as if they dont have entire blogs dedicated to just close up shots of their oppa's crotch lol
No. 90466
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I-fans are still refusing to believe that their oppars went clubbing
No. 90471
>>90466"wholesome place that sells pizza"
bitch they didnt go to chuck-e-cheese it literally has the word "bar" in its name
why are ifans like this, they take the crumbs of information they get from pannchoa or netizenbuzz and run with it making whole petitions
no wonder kfans are clowning the fuck out of them
No. 90472
>>90471I fans are absolute retards
Imagine defending a celebrity, like what the fuck do you gain lmfao
No. 90477
>>90472cmon anon didnt you know that one day oppa will see my english comment telling him i believe in him on vlive and then he will remember my username and privately message me to thank me for believing in him when no one else did
and then we will date and get married and have cute babies and star on return to superman
these fans are delusional and crazy and literally have nothing else to do, so all they have to fill the void is obsess over a korean oppa who lives halfway across the world and sends canned "i love you messages" through dear.bubble
No. 90487
>>90468The club staff saying there were no celebrities there literally means nothing, they only said it because the club is making a huge loss. Fans are really desperate if they’re willing to use this as proof.
Dispatch need to just release photos already.
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Not to derail from the Covid-97 convo, but as a second gen fag, this (basically confirmed) dating rumor HIT today
I honesty don’t have any thoughts, I just wasn’t expecting this. She does look quite similar to Han Seo Hee.
No. 90505
>>90504what really has he gotten in trouble for other than smoking weed and posting pig assholes on his instagram? i know he also tried to OD on drugs and got dragged for basically not dying which was fucked up…
i think out of the "
problematic" big bang members he's one of the less shitty ones despite getting a ton of knetz hate?
No. 90515
>>90504That pic is one year old apparently
And he does have a type. 20 years old, plain kind of attractive, almost makes Krystal rumor possible
Kinda funny how much TOP's, GD's and Seungri's gfs want public to know they're dating via instagram
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>>90486apparently some actresses got caught having a birthday party and for some reason hired an alpaca (?)
now fans are taking the piss out of oppapologists by making "alpaca did nothing wrong" memes
No. 90519
>>90468notice how fans only mention the bar and they dont mention the two other clubs they went to…..hmmm wonder why lol.
>>90496the whole picture is just gross to look at. Young (escorts) with these old men.
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>>90521the lip syncing is SO bad like…at least adjust your mic that is down below your chin and pretend you're singing, at one point one of the guys has his mic literally dangling below his chin and he's yelling like he's singing (i tried to take a screenshot to show how far the mic was because holy shit)
also i agree with the anon in the previous thread saying they always hear jimin and jk in the songs and i totally agree, it literally feels like these dudes are just lipsyncing a rejected bts sample
No. 90529
>>90521bighit fans did the same with bts when they were coming up
the comparisons with exo was too much
txt fans to do the same shit with a group 11 years their faves seniors lmfao
the worst shit is their retard comparsion of jonghyun to their fug fave taehyun that looks like walmart version of Leeteuk like.. how low do you have to stoop
its an obsession with sm at this point
the fat bighit ceo even expressed he wanted his own tvxq
6. [+39, -3] Big Hit is riding off BTS, I never thought they were running a good company. They seem to think they're on SM's level but they're just a bubble that will pop as soon as BTS does. No. 90530
>>90527oh he also had that han seo hee issue, but that was literally just him dating and smoking weed with his girlfriend during his time off…honestly he just seems like a lowkey pothead artsy weirdo, he stays under the radar for the most part
i dont really get why knetz hated him so much for what he did like i guess its unprofessional and trashy to have ur jilted ex air your dirty laundry all over the internet, but he didn't really have control over that
No. 90533
>>90530didnt he threaten suicide to his ex actress gf to trap her and he was really mentally
abusive to her
i think he just od'd for attention lel
No. 90534
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Does anyone know what even happened with Jungkook and solbin. He acted so weird around her from 2016-2018.
Jin too i mean she did seem pretty close to him that she even talked to him informally (armys ruined her career over that).
No. 90535
This is legit the worst singing I've heard in a while. It's ear rape.
https://twitter.com/TXT_members/status/1262745552178958338?s=19He's supposed to be a main vocal apparently?
No. 90538
>>90533thats callous to say someone OD'd for attention…you're no better than the knetz. he definitely has mental issues and that manifests in
toxic behavior so its not outlandish to say maybe he did emotionally manipulate/abuse his exgf, but to say he faked a suicide attempt for attention is disgusting
the guy has literally said he suffers from anxiety and depression, and ODing after a scandal breaking scream of attempted suicide which is sad regardless of the circumstance
>>90535he sounds like me after a few beers at karaoke…and ive had my mic turned off before so its not a compliment
the official channel posted this? did no one watch the video and think "huh he's gonna get majorly clowned for this one
No. 90539
>>90530>>90527He is a idol morons. Ofc he will be judged for that. Cant handle it then he shouldnt have become a idol. Living in millions and banging groupies while doing drugs how sad lets protect oppaaar. Retarded oopalogists.
>>90533Dont bother trying to put sense into oppalogist brain since they only share the same brain cell
No. 90540
>>90538my dude, i dont care for anybody who engages in illegal drugs and abuses his gf lol
his problem not mine lel
No. 90545
>>90535he apparently even trained for 4 years lmfao
while we have vocalists like Chen and Baekhyun debuting after 3
months of training
Bighit trainers must be awful kek
No. 90546
>>90540im not defending him lol, i dont even follow big bang, im literally just baffled at how you can casually just dismiss mental illness and suicide as attention seeking while screaming at people who call you out as being oppapologists
like…if i was defending jk for itaewon and how he might be sad uwu and he needs to be protected then i get it, i literally said it's not cool to dismiss mental illness just bc someone's rich
>>90543i read that somewhere too, she's not even an actress, apparently she's "about to debut as an actress", so there isnt even a profile about her but news sources are saying she's 23
No. 90548
>>90543Oh ew I saw the wrong age. Checked again shes 23. He's like 9 years older than her. I hate age gaps like that cause it gives room for
abusive and domineering relationships.
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>>90545SM probably doesn't have great trainers either considering Johnny trained for 9 years and cant even hold a tune for more than 2 seconds
the TXT kids are all so manufactured and creepy that its unsettling, not to mention theyre completely untalented
No. 90553
>>90546She's only been in a reality show called love catcher 2 lol.
>>90548Ten years. Typical sleazebag.
No. 90557
>>90552difference is johnny isnt even trained to be an vocalist (nctfags cmiiw lol) but Taehyun is a main vocalist
SM has the best vocalists in the Korean industry if we talk strictly idols
Idk if you're new to kpop but isnt it a common fact lol
BUT to be fair vocal trainers from tvxq to exos era might have changed so explains why Nct's vocals are so awful
But cant say sm has bad vocal trainers when they had 3 godly vocalists like ChenBaekSoo
But im an smfag so im biased kek
No. 90560
>>90555except this isnt mental illness you bigbangfag
People like Jonghyun and Sulli have actual mental illnes, Meanwhile TOP fucked his brain up with drugs,is manipulative,attention seeking and will continue on fucking groupies until he is 50.
Heck i dont expect better from someone who blindly keeps on defending bigbang your iq must be low that there is no point arguing.
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Lol
No. 90565
>>90557oh i wasnt dismissing trainers per se, i was more taking a jab at the quality they had to work with…and i believe johnny is technically supposed to be a subvocalist?
chenbaekso are naturally gifted with good voices so with some training they get an uplift in technique and stuff
people like johnny and taehyun give the trainers nothing to work with and thus even with a shitton of training they still come out sounding like ass
as they say, you cant polish a turd
>>90556>>90560can you idiots at least sage if you're going to sperg and fight jfc
>>90562honestly he had to have been high when he let someone tattoo those fucking things into his hands, they don't even look like they're done well
at least he has money and hand tattoos fade fast, so he can just get them removed when he finally wakes up and realizes they look like ass
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Looks like kmedia picked up on the yet video of someone meeting jk in a bar alley
https://twitter.com/tjujtu/status/1263067493750280192?s=19 No. 90568
>>90565Tbf Johnny debuted because he was a Korean chicago broadcast directors son, so he was probably loaded
H didnt even train fulltime but went to train during summer break so he barely trained lel
Im like 99 that he debuted because of some nepotism shit because hes ugly, cant dance, awkward as shit, cant speak korean and certainly cant sing
Its not really a comparable situation because he isnt even considered apart of the vocal line in nct
Least you could've compared him to some Sm vocalist
>>90567Someone who speaks Korean care to translate?
No. 90569
>>90533his first known suicide attempt was in 2008 but yg swept it under the rug lel
I dont know whos the biggest retard here, him re-signing with yg oppar after everything or you saying hes suicidal for attention. Its clear he should just fuck off from the industry and get treatment
On the topic of male idol hags, saesang circles hinted a while back that idols from late 2nd gen and early 3rd gen are doing some disgusting shit behind the scenes. now that og journalist will expose more rats, on who do you place your bets?
No. 90570
>>90567i cant believe he was drunk/high enough to allow pictures be taken of him, especially since he knew the guy was a youtuber and likely would've posted about it for clout
half of the shit he gets into he's asking for because he doesnt have a brain, or he just doesnt give a shit because he knows ratmys will shield him through everything
No. 90571
>>90569tons of people od and fake suicide attempts for attention but its impossible because its oppar
hes a stupid fuck can you stop talking about him?
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Well
No. 90575
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>>90574The #outjungkook tag are mostly jarmys pissed af ag jk
No. 90578
>>90575where is their biggest national fanbase outside of korea? i assume china just because of the sheer number of people, but i dont recall bts ever being mentioned in the past as idols who have a huge chinese fanbase
honestly BH isn't going to give a shit about japan, their japanese fanbase isn't gigantic and like every other country there's a perfectly large group of blind fans who'll lick the floor they walk on
it is funny he's getting cancelled in so many places and yet fans are still trending the "owo protect baby" as if hes completely innocent
No. 90580
>>90577Place what bets on??
>>90579Tbf Jk and Jimin both had controversies and as a group Bts was on controversy for sexist lyrics and sexualising women
But what do you base your accusations of Chanyeol and Xiumin on
Xiumin legit has no controversy since ever
Not even a gf controversy so thats a weird accusation
No. 90585
>>90583There are tons though lol..
I get Chanyeol but I feel like you are just throwing out names of people you dont like lol
Thats the thing with this thread you just make up shit about people you hate lmfaoo
No. 90588
>>90587This is a video mocking Halsey though.
But works for Rose too
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>>90577Literally nobody asked who you think is a rapist?
>>90578I was actually wondering about that for a while, you never really read anything about them and china. Did they not try to get a bigger fanbase there or do the chinese simply not like their style?
There's this site that translates comments of chinese netizens and bts is hardly ever mentioned (or only in a negative way). For example, nobody is sad about bts enlisting in the coming years, their favorite kpop groups is exo and the reaction to tao's little shitting on bts scandal was pic related. K or i armys would've murdered him.
https://centkent.blogspot.com/2018/09/cnetz-lament-impending-military-service.htmlhttps://centkent.blogspot.com/2019/03/who-was-first-korean-male-group-that.html No. 90596
>>90589except all of the nth room stuff has happened within the past year or so he's been in the military…i get this thread is about discussing rumors, but can you at least fucking sage your comments and not just spitball random fanfic shit? this isnt onehallyu
chanyeol is a
valid assumption but the rest of them just seem like "people i dont like so im gonna throw them in here"
>>90588yeah, the anon asked for the video that another anon referenced in a previous thread about how rose sounded like this girl, this vine has been around forever and just mocks indie singers in general
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>>90582Hes only really friends (probs not now though) with Jung Joonyoung
So was Jonghyun (SHINee) , but we can agree he wasnt the same as JJY sometimes friends show our true character sometimes not so I dont think its fair to call out Chanyeol lol
If he was associated with the KKT chatrooms he would've been out like Roy Kim and Zico
I dont doubt hes a douche though lol
But sextape accusations and of him being apart of a Molka chat is too much
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>>90590interesting, i feel like bts doesn't really market in china which is weird because kpop is so big there. the preorders seem to show they have a decent following though, but only maknae line
i wonder if its because china prefers the pretty boy idols with generic music (which is why nct dream is so big there but 127 flops everywhere)
ill translate a few since the picture is in chinese, but the ranking is v/jungkook/jimin/lisa/jennie/renjun/jaemin
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>>90599Except the huge DIFFERENCE is chanyeol was close friends with almost all of the golden phone-gang and not just Joonyung…soo
He also supported zico's song even after everything happened.
You cannot deny that there is something off with him and the whole situation.
No. 90612
>>90569If we’re talking dispatch exposing 2nd gen then suju are fucked. They are a nasty bunch.
Tbh I see any girl group scandals mostly being things that would out them as
victims (i.e. shady escort stuff)
No. 90626
>>90616almost all the suju guys are douchebags, i remember when kyuhyun slut shamed hara on tv and she got mad and rolled a water bottle at him, and then ofc knetz jumped on her for being "rude" even though he literally was shaming her for dating on live tv
sorry because this vid doesnt seem to have subs, but he basically calls her a "dating-dol" and then says he could ruin her career if he opened his mouth about her…and then laughs in her face as she's trying not to cry
all these dudes are fucking slimy and gross, but they'll have fans who'll shield them to high heaven so its no wonder they all have inflated egos
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do these people not have anything better to do? other than trying to save the asses of literal millionaires?
No. 90634
>>90611Might as well crucify Choi Taejoon and Shin Kangwoo who are also apart of Jonghyuns friends group lol
If he supported zico
despite what happened that just shows the situation doesnt it
Someone who was
truly shady would just lay low instead of involve himself further lol
They exposed top of top Bigbang is the BS controversy with politcal figures involved
I dont think they'd hesitate to go after Chanyeol lmfao
Like I said Im not saying he isnt a douche, but you cant judge someones character based on their friends actions
Some people dont even know what their spouses do, you mean to tell me he knew Jonghyun was going around passing girls around when hes promoting with Exo 24/7
Go look at FT islands situation and say Lee Hongki whos a co member with Choi Jonghoon is fishy as well lol even though he lived with this douche for years he didnt know what he was doing bts.
IJS accusations of being related to a Molka groupchat is serious
Chanyeol only became friends with Jonghyun due to his friendship with another CNblue member so that says much
No. 90644
>>90628these fangirls probably think they're some superspy network of secret undercover agents when theyre in fact a bunch of sad people with no life spending all of their time clearing searches and defending a guy who wouldnt even look at them on the street lol
i honestly dont get the mentality behind this like…i understand liking an idol but to go to the point to spend hours on hours doing stuff like this…what is their endgame?
No. 90657
>>90646sorry i shouldve clarified, this is korean groups only, not the entire music industry as a whole
the only two gidle members are yuqi at 23 and soyeon at the bottom (likely because of her league of legends collab)
wayv, got7 are not on this list as of 04/20, not to say they dont have a huge fanbase
No. 90663
>>90626>>90661oh yeah Kyuhyun the bully another waste of air fom suju.
Im guessing you are a 2nd gen stan so i guess you know this too. But the way Kyuhyun bullied Eunhyuk was shocking. Like it was actual severe bullying, both verbal and physical.
Its insane how suju were able to avoid all these scandals and get away with them. No other group was able to be this
problematic and get away with.
No. 90665
>>90615Personally i doubt a bts member will get exposed, but rm gives off major vibes. Lets not forget that he, suga, supreme boi, and iron keep sucking eachothers dicks while ratmies keep parading with the "theyre only forced to work together uwu" agenda like that makes it better somehow
The whole crew they have outside of bh is made of abusers, druggies, and attempted rapists and bh waving the un flag is such a chuckle when you take in consideration the people they employ
No. 90671
>>90651Oops, I had no idea about that. I guess the others had to go because of his solo popularity lol
>>90657No, it's alright, I got it. I just read that some wjsn members are so successful in china (despite being absolute nugus in korea), then you have jackson, who's also obviously very popular, so those groups without any chinese members selling so well just seemed odd.
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>>90646same anon who posted the original chart pic
the likelihood of a lot of these groups (dream, select members of 127) having such huge numbers is because they have large chinese fanclubs e.g., renjunbar, jaeminbar who buy massive amounts of albums everytime there is a comeback. i assume that's also the case for the SF9 member who i'm not familiar with.
renjunbar alone bought over 60k albums for the ridin comeback, and these chinesebars also make their own exclusive merch and stuff. it's a pretty interesting culture overseas, albeit a bit creepy sometimes considering these "bar" owners are rumored to be in their mid to late 30s
No. 90677
>>90674So basically they manipulated the sales…
Physicals dont even matter if this is what fans do these days
Should limit the purchase to 4 albums each person lol
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>>90674>>90677to be honest im not too familiar with how the bars work, i know they also have giant member pools. it does look like manipulation at a glance and im im not versed enough in charting etc. in korea to call it manipulation, since it may just be an entire large club buying albums instead of one person. theyre also often the groups that will buyout entire subway ad walls for their fave's birthdays
either way it's weird, but see attached pic of renjunbar's exclusive makeup palette influenced by renjun's hairstyles and art…it's pretty weird but you have to admit it's well done and unlike anything kfans usually do (lowkey, the palette looks kind of pretty and something i would be open to buying if i saw it at a department store)
i would hate to see what would happen if any of these dream boys manage to piss off their chinese bars, the loss of sales there would be astronomical
No. 90686
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>>90685interesting, i assume they take preorders and then conduct a group buy?
i also know the renjunbar owner went and gave renjun the receipt for their previous album sales (something like 35k) and the entire exchange was creepy as fuck since she's at least close to, if not more than double his age…
basically she calls him baby and jokes about him marrying her, and then gives him the receipt showing the barsales of 35k albums, and then she asks for him to write "to a beautiful together between you and i" on his photocard (not going to post the picture since it's literally a notepad in all chinese, unless another anon wants to read it)
No. 90689
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>>90688i already summarized in the post above
im just imagining this kid seeing this hag coming from a mile away and having to do the mental preparations of dealing with her because she brings in the sales lol
honestly id pretend to like a cow for 3 minutes too if it brought me that much money kek
No. 90711
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Lmaooo
No. 90719
>>90711lmfao why are they calling him reproduce?
that is barely any chest hair, but i guess it's a lot for an asian dude
kfans are wilding out and i love it
No. 90722
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speaking of crazy fucking fans, apparently some girl flashed her tits at wayv during their beyond live concert and hendery's reaction is amazing
No. 90723
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>>90719Well jaehyun is a hairy guy overall so it's not surprising
No. 90727
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>>90722Yep. Ten's reaction to that sent me too, LMAO. Looks like his soul left his body.
No. 90730
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Same anon, got the image. You can barely see it though.
No. 90732
>>90727im sure this happens often at concerts, we just never see it on film/idol reactions
arent there stories at pretty much every concert about girls throwing bras and underwear onto the stage lol
No. 90741
>>90736considering the dream kids have all hag fans i wouldnt be surprised if it happened
there was a mention last thread or two threads ago about the members showing that jaemin had popped a boner on stage and you can hear the screeching in the background
video attached, i believe this was last year so it would make him barely 18 and these pigs are already screaming and screeching over him
No. 90751
>>90747i wonder now that dream's ditched the pedobait funnel system and become a permanent group if they're going to add new members to cash in on the noonabait
im sure a lot of these hag fans will lose interest as these kids get older, and move onto a new younger boyband
the dream concept was honestly genius for the demographic that it so obviously targeted. SM could underage teenagers into the arms of hungry hag fans and dump them once they get too old while cherrypicking and throwing the popular ones into nct u/new subunits once they have a loyal fanbase
not to mention half of these kids probably have some serious issues based on the fact they start training pre-puberty and are raised in such a weird unhealthy environment and probably will end up causing scandals and issues, kind of like how dream is already doing
No. 90769
>>90575That's hilarious considering that they are releasing their new Japanese album on July and pre-orders just went up about a week ago, lol. Not only that, but apparently the album has a brand new song composed by no other than JK! lol! I would really like for this backlash to last until then but July seems so far away…
>>90578I know Japan has their own fan club with "exclusive" [very low effort, or so I hear] content. So I would say that BH does give a shit about them, at least a little. Or at least more than the ratmies in other countries.
No. 90773
>>90766I think Vox's doc on Kpop on Netflix?
Its this series called ''Explained''
Or its this Kpop doc on Hulu by Vice
No. 90780
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>>90772i havent seen any pictures and they might not have just because it was so brief and they weren't looking, but i keep laughing at the hendery one
he deadass looks like the monkey meme
No. 90784
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Bang Yedam is getting a pre-treasure solo lol
Ofc Blinks are absolutely frothing at the mouth at these news which is always fun to watch
No. 90798
>>90784yedam deserves it tho
hes practically bp's senior lmao
No. 90800
>>90798oh i totally agree, his cover of that shawn mendes song blew me away considering he was only 15
but blinks wont admit that, theyre just going to fixate on how bp is being "mistreated" and YG is a misogynist
i ventured onto twitter and theyre also super angry that yedam got a solo before rose as if rose has enough ghastly wailing to fill an entire album kek
(also i love how this yedam video has more views than half of the nct official mvs loool)
No. 90802
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>>90800>also i love how this yedam video has more views than half of the nct official mvs loooltheyll probably end up overshadowing nct once they debut
among the international kpop audience atleast lel
also checked nct's profile and sm wants me to believe that jisung kid is 181 (5'11)
these manlets lying about their heights make me lol so hard
they're all the same height ffs
(renjun is 170 at far left and jisung tallest at 181 next to chenle 178 far right and the middle jaemin at 175cm)
No. 90805
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>>9080299% of "official" heights are lies, not to mention these dudes likely wear insoles at varying times, so it's hard to actually figure out their real heights
if anything i think a safe bet is just to shave 1.5-2inches off for dudes as a baseline lol
its just like irl, dude always add an inch or so to their height when they bring it up, so imagine the kpop industry
pic related: the biggest 1 inch difference of all time kek since jaehyun is supposed to he 5'11" and jaemin 5'10
No. 90807
>>90805and fat fangirls lose their mind over a chick wearing boob pads
your oppar is legit your height sit down top kek
No. 90809
>>90808i have doubts treasure will do well, like you said debuting under YG already draws a bunch of negative "fuck YG" attention on them, not to mention the management is absolute hot garbage
they might get some traction in the beginning, and then get thrown to the wayside like every other yg flavor of the month
im honestly surprised they still have trainees considering all of the news and controversies that have come out about the company
No. 90810
>>90808akmu charted great last year why not.
plus they always have the japanese market lel.
No. 90817
>>90813i think its safe to assume almost all, if not all idols get something done whether it be permanent surgery or temporary fillers, so the answer is probably yes lol
>>90810i think YG groups do well when they come back, but it takes forever and they lose the traction because the public forgets about them
im surprised bp has the following it does considering how inconsistent they are, these girls are basically glorified instathots which i guess is what they wanted to begin with
No. 90819
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>>90813He definitely did lolz.
No. 90824
>>90819if this is true this is also on his parents…i doubt a company can give a minor surgery without parental permission
i cant imagine any normal parent signing the ok for their teenage son to go under the knife that young, but his parents also did have him start training before he even finished elementary school so who knows
No. 90831
>>90826i think he just has great technique for how young he is, not to mention he sounds a great deal like shawn mendes here as well
the views are likely driven highly by shawn mendes fans since he did give the cover a shout out
either way its hard to deny the kid isnt talented, he's not reinventing the wheel but hes already miles ahead of the average trainee who cant hold a note and is only there for their face
>>90827> At the same time don't get butthurt if the other farmers doesn't have the same opinion you do. No. 90841
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Roy Kim is entering military service but apparently knetz have been shifting their opinions about him?
Apparently he wasn't a part of the "rapey molka and videos chat" but rather a "fishing chat" and only shared a deepfake picture of some celebrity girl just to share that it wasn't real which i don't buy at all lol
who the fuck shares a porn picture in their group chat just to go "not real btw" like…knetz are also brainless as fuck just like their international counterparts. besides, wasn't he literally arrested and disowned by his dad over this lol
Either way i still side-eye the fuck out of him considering he was best friends with jjy…there is no way he didn't know what was going on so at the very least he's a rape apologist
No. 90848
>>90845agreed, i thought it was stupid and funny in a really endearing way, it didnt take itself seriously and the music was still good
plus the dog is super cute lol
No. 90874
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Text convo between JYP and Day6 Jae that he posted on twitter
No. 90878
>>90874honestly even if this is a PR stunt it's still really nice of JYP to check in on his artists and give them praise when it's deserved
i think the words are very sincere and its a nice gesture, plus i love day6 and im happy they have the ability to take a step back when they need to and just breathe
No. 90894
>>90833>>90831He has no technique lel. Cant support at all, lowers his larynx in the lower register, strains and is nasal and throaty etc most kpop idols lack technique which doesnt mean they cant sing, it just means theyre not good at it
Korea tends to favor style over technique anyway, it always pisses me off when supposed vocal coaches and acclaimed good singers dont teach these kids shit and then praise them for their shitty singing
No. 90914
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>>90808I also doubt it. Bp is doing well but they debuted before all that seungri shit went down (plus they have their influencer marketing strategy). Please no ban for nitpick, but not a single of those treasure kids look even remotely cute. Isn't the point of groups with many members that there's at least one looker in it? Small groups are supposed to have only talented members vs larger groups with filler members you should stan because they're attractive or funny. That's so not yg style, he never did that. Plus before nct debuted, everybody thought no sm group could fail either and now look there we are, they're mega flops. Same for stray kids, nobody cares about them despite "big 3 privilege".
>>90802>>90805The only tall idols were kris and tao but they're not even kpop anymore. I think they're quite a few girls above 170 especially amongst the younger generation but hardly any males who reach 180. Somehow companies only manage to cast total twinks lol
No. 90944
>>90773Ah, no, it's not that video. But thank you for replying, though!
>>90776I don't really understand your question, but it was fanmade on YouTube. It was 20 minutes-something long, and a girl did the voiceover. That's what I remember about it…
>>90861I will! But I think it's probably deleted, because it shouldn't be this hard to find…
No. 90948
>>90841Did you get anything from the info you posted
how is he a
>>rape apologistwhen he practically outed JJY for spreading a deepfake of a celeb
Idgi.
Didnt a journalist basically say, he didnt do anything.
''There was a spreading of a picture in the
room (chatroom on KKT)''
He basically only said to them for spreading the photo '' Thats no
so and so entertainer''.
What are you on anon.
No. 90949
>>90946Is it ''the late capitalism of kpop'' on YT?
Frick… im curious now
No. 90956
>>90954Mouth mics arent that strong plus its dangling onto his shoulder
Its deffo an indication that someone not live singing or singing with loud backtrack
No. 90964
>>90951wtf does this even mean lol
im sure these dudes go to seedy clubs and shit all the time, its just stupid they couldnt keep it in their pants during the covid time like…you really didnt think dispatch would be circling the area waiting to catch you out
not to mention theres probably other celebrities and idols who've done the same and are now shaking in their shoes hoping dispatch hasnt found out/wont release news
No. 90982
File: 1590073731302.png (1.65 MB, 960x960, it looks nice on the shelf tho…)
>>90946YES THIS ONE thanks for providing more information I thought that I was going crazy! But yeah it's probably deleted now. In the end of the video she even asked if ppl were interested in more videos like this, if it were now I'd even subscribe to a Patreon because it was so nicely done.
>>90949Nah anon it isn't! Basically she did a whole timeline on the origins of photocards and stuff, on how people spend ridiculous amount of money to get all the photocards, the math behind it, and in the end of the video she included a few snippets of collectors rants about how they felt pressurized to buy all the stuff to make unboxing videos and not lose subscribers.
Pic kinda related from the kpopcollections sub, all 10 versions of SNSD's I Got A Boy.
No. 90985
>>90984Jyp talks exactly like this on his Instagram which is why I believe it. Jae is better in English than Korean as he grew up through high school in the US and Jyp might like to practice English by texting him.
Its not dumb to think it’s fake, I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if it were but I just don’t think so this time
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>>90723lmfao why did u spoiler leeel
https://www.knetizen.com/cha-eunwoo-and-jaehyuns-average-face/throwback to when knetz called him an ''Australopithecus''
No. 90998
>>90984JYP's english is very good, he barely has an accent when he speaks and is very eloquent so its not surprising he would type in english to jae who grew up in the us and is likely more comfortable speaking english than korean
his english is lightyears ahead of any non us-born idol, probably because he spent a few years in the US when he was young
No. 91023
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>>90934The reporter who apparently broke the news about the F4 Itaewon guys being at a seedy club is the same one who broke Burning Sun, so she's legitimate
The fact that these guys all insisted they went to a "restaurant and bar" while conveniently omitting potentially 2 clubs is not good for their image, not to mention the delulu fans will now be angry their oppa went to a bar filled with pretty ladies kek
No. 91036
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>>91033here’s one from the night they were there. those four are fucked.
No. 91037
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lol
No. 91038
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The koreans are pissed because there were foreigners there as well lmao
No. 91042
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one more kek
No. 91049
>>91048''why were you stalking oppa and not quarantining''
lmfao
they have never heard of commoners selling info to tabloids apparently lel
Got exposed by an fan out of all people how sad
No. 91051
>>91041yea, i'd go there for a night out.
it was idiotic of them to go clubbing during a pandemic but the fans are mainly mad cause they can't stand the thought of their idols hooking up with hot women lol.
that "perfect prince" image made jaehyun popular but it kinda backfired now that fans realized he's not some celibate doll.
No. 91054
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This was apparently at boombar. That's cha eunwoo
No. 91057
>>91051I think most fans are pissed because theres a conversation about feminism nowadays in Korea and objectifying of women so thats why many k fans are using the same phrase ''hanging around naked women''
Clubs like this have become a controversial topic to say the least
Plus none of these chicks are
''hot'' they look like prostitutes ffs lel and their box shaped bodies is the cherry on top
>>91054Holy shit he looks like a bum
No. 91058
>>91052i think at the end of the day we don't know what information her and her team have, i just mentioned she was the burning sun reporter to show the fact that shes not just some "nobody tabloid trash reee" that fans were trying to push with dispatch
ofc now fans are switching their narrative to "how dare reporters infringe on privacy" and "that means the reporters weren't distancing" as if that changes or lowers the fact that these dudes were out
i hope theres more idols and celebrities who'll get pulled out into the light just because the drama from the entitled fanbase is great to watch
No. 91067
>>91065im sure these dudes dont actually care that much, sure theyre getting flack now but they know the braindead fans will support them through everything
im just more excited about the complete fandom meltdowns as these pig fans realize oppa doesnt actually love them despite what he says on tv and his ideal type is not actually just "a nice girl with long hair" so they can't self insert anymore
i hope dispatch has incriminating pictures, imagine if prince eunwoo or jaehyun/jungkook got caught with a girl in his lap, the fans would spontaneously combust
No. 91072
>>91068dude k fans
are mad about the club thing read the comment here
>>91057of course fans were mad about the corona situation which affected them (even school are social distancing while their biases are clubbing) while their faves werent bothering at all to test or quarantine themselves according to guidelines
But the part of them clubbing with naked women definitely plays a part.
No. 91074
>>91070no, they were not kids…? i am talking about mijoo
>>91071im sure SOME people care but again he is more popular than ever, numbers dont lie
No. 91077
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>>91074his girlfriend from when he was still a teen, Park Se Won.
No. 91079
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>>91073They hate her so Michael and call her ugly. They posted as of her celebrating her bday and saying they're waiting for her to post what jk got her. The gf situation got jk a bunch of antis. The "karmys" posting about this and exposing hk are still mad about the gf thing and the fender-bender. Theres a whole side of twitter with people who hate jk. This account especially. And look at the amount of followers they have
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Lmao these are the names of the drink at Jack's bar. Please this is so funny to me. At any other time I would actually be glad they went to bars and enjoyed their youth while fans have a breakdown their idols are humans that go to bars.
No. 91089
>>91082oh my god the timestamp you linked is a blatant lipsync, and its not even good
how did this dude pass "training" for 4 years, he obviously cannot sing as evidenced by this tweet someone posted yesterday
>>90535is his family rich or something lol
No. 91094
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Apple music leaked August D2
No. 91095
>>91089the standards for talent in kpop is very low nowadays tbh.
we have people calling screeching izone and itzy vocal legends and ''stable'' for talk singing live out of breath.
No. 91096
>>91094lmfaooooo tragic
aint nobody gonna pay attention to that with all thats happening for their groups member
same with Nct127 and Astros recent comebakc
horible timing.
No. 91102
>>91094what the fuck is the entirety of the styling of this picture
the longer i look at it the weirder it is…the pose, the weird bdsm-y rope thing, his fake eye scar…
what are the stylists at big hit doing lol i thought they had that ex SM creative director on their team now
No. 91135
>>91089probably. Most of txt are silver spoons. Beomgyu's the most obvious that he comes from a stacked family.
Maybe his visuals? He does technically have all the korean beauty standards after he got a nosejob, even if his face looks like it was made by an alien.
No. 91148
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>>91061lmfao apparently boombar follows jaehyun and liked his apology on instagram
this is just getting better and better, for the bar to follow eunwoo and jaehyun probably means they at least are patrons, why would a random bar follow a celebrity?
that would be like burger king here following leonardo dicaprio or something
No. 91158
>>91153do you want to link it or provide screenshots? allkpop is an absolute cesspool to wade through
i literally just tried to look for "18+ threads" on allkpop and its just fangirls sperging and writing fanfics about who's a "dom" and which idols are kinky so i noped out
No. 91161
>>91159isnt that just a shitpost thread
im a user in akp and there hasnt been major tea in that thread whatsoever
No. 91168
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>>91165what the absolute fuck is this shit
allkpop is a cesspool, onehallyu isnt any better but i guess it keeps all the fanfic spergs in one place
No. 91174
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the berry girl nugu apologized for calling mijoo a chopstick body as if she wasnt being petty and jealous lol
i still cant believe she said that, female idols get roasted over nothing and blatant body shaming/being catty and bitchy is just painting a giant target on your forehead for knetz
No. 91181
>>91180i feel like it definitely looks like him and very well may be him lol
i agree with the other anons though, dude looks bored af or may just be so drunk he got plopped down to "rest" for a bit
No. 91184
>>91182Im jumping aboard in saying that's him. Although don't be surprised when his insane fans will use this photo in his defence. They be saying mad shit Like how he looks bored and disengaged hence not participating in the drunken orgy and therefore only some
victim who was only dragged into it by bad friends. Sigh
No. 91199
>>91071Agreed with everything you said, anon. Theres group chats dedicated to sending mj hate and calling her an ugly whore which are made by the same ratmies that keep the uwu koo babie did nothing wrong energy going
>>91086I dont really understand whats funny here though? I used to be a bartender and these are shots youd find in most bars out there, not shocking at all
No. 91202
>>91200OH has that entire 2000+ page thread of girls psychoanalyzing every slowed down gif of their oppas trying to prove that theyre gay
apparently according to them no one in the industry is straight and if anyone says otherwise they all pile on the user lol
its a mess but its definitely not as bad as allkpop
No. 91203
>>91202omg i forgot about thread- i thought it got shut down after someone posted two TXT members there and thought they were fucking because they were wearing the same jacket, even though one was a minor.
it makes me curious how messy they are now considering they probably think jaehyun's secretly fucking some NCT member(s).
No. 91207
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>>91203i literally jumped to the latest discussion and of course is all the fans convinced the f4 group is gay because they went to a "gay bar"
the press already revealed what bar they went to…just because its in itaewon doesnt make it gay but fans will cherrypick for their narrative kek
ratmys want their vkook ship to be real so bad lol
No. 91214
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>>91209honestly if a bunch of people were showing me photoshopped pictures of me and a coworker in various sex positions and telling me about long stories they wrote about me i would also probably be slightly awkward around that coworker
V also very clearly shut down a shipper a while back, but im sure theres still delusional fans who believe its all a ruse and theyre secretly in love
No. 91255
>>91222theres still fans in their 30s and 40s who think yunjae is a thing LOL
delulu fans will never change despite knowing fanservice and ship culture is a critical part of kpop
No. 91275
>>91263the ones who feed the over the top fanservice are so cringe…but i guess its easy money because it attracts fangirls
i dont get with fangirls ship idols from different groups though…like lizkook or whatever is a huge ship but theyve literally never interacted so i dont even know where it came from
No. 91289
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Really liked this one.
No. 91297
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>>91295speaking of nayeon is there any update on her german stalker? last i read he went off the rails and threatened to kill her if she "dated behind his back"
i know he's not in korea anymore, but i wonder if hes going to try and get back into the country. im sure jyp is keeping tabs on him because he announces everything on social media but its still terrifying
spoiler'd picture just in case because he's sick in the head
No. 91313
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Baekhyun posted a long rant on bubble about sasaeng fans and then asked that it "not get leaked" fully knowing that it would
I do feel bad for him, it must fucking suck getting tailed and followed and not even be able to go home where it's supposed to be a private space in peace and idols are still people who should have their privacy respected
But on the other hand he's one of those idols who fuels the delulu boyfriend image SO much that im not surprised creepy sasaengs and overall batshit girls trail him home like…what did you expect
No. 91318
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>>91289Their "Fanfare" concept overall is very cute!
No. 91329
>>91324Yeah it does share similar themes beat-wise and visually.
I heavily prefer Suga's though, especially the traditional Korean culture aspect. It's much more interesting and attractive.
No. 91332
>>91318Wow, Mina looks so different as a blonde. She had a demure, ladylike vibe with black hair, I don't think I've seen her with blonde hair before but she looks so bubbly.
As usual, Chaeyoung has bad hair. She also had an unflattering look in the Signal and Dance The Night Away eras. I don't understand why idols change their hair to something bad after finding a good look. Do young fans get bored with idols that easily?
No. 91362
>>91355Wow, Taeil is so pitiful in regards to both Korean and international popularity. He’s never even nitpicked itt but I think I once heard an anon mention he’s more talented than the other members (or maybe it was Ten?)
>>91358Yep, for reference I don’t like nct and don’t watch their fancams, but I’d wanna Jaehyun’s out of curiosity due to the scandal and to see the comments
No. 91363
>>91358I looked at an older fancam too,
March 6th Kick it fancam views:
Haechan 471k
Jaehyun 470k
Taeyong 467k
Mark 294k
Johnny 195k
Jungwoo 192k
Yuta 191k
Doyoung 102k
Taeil 60k
Doyoung was still second to last and the gap between Jaehyun, Haechan, Taeyong and the rest was huge.
No. 91377
>>91362>>91363The reason Doyoung's and Taeil's fancam views are so low is that they are shit dancers.
The only members in NCT who excel at their main position, and are good/decent at everything else (dancing/singing/rapping/performance) are Mark, Haechan and Ten. Maybe Jaehyun, too.
The rest either excel at something and suck at the rest, are mediocre to decent at everything, or just plain suck.
No. 91378
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Some fans are saying that Luna has been cutting herself.
No. 91380
>>91378Oh, no! I feel bad for Luna. Everyone was always saying "she's underrated, f*ck SM, give Luna a solo!" and when they did, f(x) fans let her flop.
I hope she gets opportunities to sing, at least in variety shows or something.
No. 91386
>>91379The mv was cool, really liked the instrumental and production on this one but overall is nothing groundbreaking and I too would like to hear him/them talking about other things other than being an underdog or sad, I might listen to it a few times tho
I honestly laughed at the drawing of bang pd
No. 91394
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>>91392jhope was also in it for a split second.
No. 91396
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What is big hit doing anymore? Isn't zico involved with the burning sun incident??
No. 91406
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>>91397Taken from Twitter but pretty sure this is from one of her Instagram lives or maybe a video she was in. Also if you sift through her pics on insta you could see that most of the time she positions her arms in ways where you can’t see the cuts. Here’s one rare pic where you could actually see the marks albeit they’re barely visible but still there.
No. 91412
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>>91094So 2020 Suga wants to look like 2019 jk?
>>91403No, that's simply all he learned in 5 years of acting school.
>>91408I just saw the lyrics and jesus, how is that not written by a 13yo boy?
>uwu everybody boolied me but now I'm sooo richAlso that
>The bastards that received media benefits were on air more often than meabsolutely serves to manipulate ratmys into further pushing the "big 3/all kpop groups/rest of the world vs. bts"-narrative.
Fucking embarrassing. Generic love songs written by nameless producers for other groups are deeper than the shit bts puts out.
And god, jin's bj lips look even more disgusting with that beard.
No. 91417
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>>91413>He’s so incredibly pale.Except he's not at all? And mixed with what? You possible couldn't find a more stereotypically asian/korean looking person than him.
Are you seriously buying into the kpop photoshop lie?
No. 91421
>>91417besides, asian people have variation in skin tone too. they arent all uniform #2096-50 Cappucino brown.
it gives me second hand embarassment that suga is still doing this "diss-track" shtick when he has been riding on his group's giant 13-year-old-girl fanbase for years now. the song itself was ok, forgettable.
No. 91423
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suga seems so fucking fake to me. how can he act all hard when he literally looks like this? I mean he willingly took this picture. this looks like my 40 year old aunts facebook profile pic.
No. 91430
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Chungha is turning into Bom.
No. 91435
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Is anybody old enough to remember that another f4 already existed pre jk and co?
Didn't end so well for the original group…
No. 91452
>>91429I thought he was cleared that he didnt use nor buy? How does that make sense? Also if the rumor of jungkook and eunwoo taking drugs during f4's adventures turns out to be true thatll be top kek
>>91408They became big pretty quickly actually. In 2015 they got their first win and sold 250k with one album alone (around half a mil together with the second one) which is why they got dragged with sajaegi allegations. Then a year later they got a daesang lol organic growth where exactly?
Its funny cause ratmies always whine about how they and bts were "bullied" but now theyre even worse towards other groups and fandoms lel what they dished out in 2015 is no different to what kpop acts have been getting
No. 91454
>>91452yeah bts came from a small company but they werent the "underdog" by any means, i hate how ratmys make it sound like these dudes literally clawed their way to the top
besides, half of their success is literally through luck, not because they reinvented the music industry like some twinky messiahs
No. 91463
>>91396another one goes to bh's "
problematic pieces of shit" collection. fans insist he wasn't linked to burning sun's scandal because nothing has come up about him but that's because he wasn't investigated
wtch him get exposed for molka or nth room
watch
No. 91474
>>91469I remember her weight loss methods were extreme even by kpop standards.
Like only having green tea and some raw vegetables for a week while preparing for a comeback and working out two hours a day on top of that.
She always had the talent so she probably thought having a nicer body was the thing she needed to make her a successful soloist.
Do knetz slut shame her or is she too irrelevant to them?
No. 91476
>>91463hes been
problematic for way longer than getting linked to jjy, fans just ignore it whenever he comes out with another catchy song and prances around with their woke twitter queens
im sure as his talent fades (lets not talk about his looks because..theres nothing to fade there) he'll get exposed for being a complete POS
the thing is he doesnt have a rabid idol fanbase, does he? it seems to be more people who appreciate his music instead of people who sperg about hot oppa
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>>91488i cant wait for ratmys to eat their words but ive been seeing this a bit on twitter
how suga's lyrics are anti-drug as if he doesnt look like hes on benzos half the time hes on screen
"no one in bts does drugs" lmfao, i hope dispatch reveals JK was doing drugs in the bar, theres no way he wasnt high out of his mind when he let that chick tattoo those ugly ass things on his body
No. 91492
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>>91490lyrics for the song attached
No. 91495
>>91494thats not surprising at all, half the times these idols are thrown into some crazy schedules where theyre running on 1-2 hours of sleep for weeks, companies probably do pump them full of drugs so they can keep propping them up on camera
besides, the entertainment industry has always been known to be very drug heavy
No. 91502
>>91429>i'm so thankful i'm a genius, that's your excuse for popping pills, cry me a river you just got no skills"This could easily be seen as him mocking others for having to take medication for mental illness, other people got cancelled for less…
I also don't see how dissing others by saying he's so rich is admirable, even little kids know that bragging about money in front of poorer people is something you just don't do. He somehow manages to have both a superiority and a
victim complex.
The commenters on nb like to act as if they're more mature than the ones on twitter or allkpop, but today they went full on cringe:
>You can't manufacture such talent, rap skills and writing skills. This is what sets BTS apart because their rap line is from underground rap world and has earned the respect and look at his flow and talent. My fave rapper in kpop. Most kpopies think their oppas are rappers when they can't even write rap and rap flow yikes. To get respect as rapper, you need to have writing skills with rapping flow.>Second lol lyrics. He dissed all money show offs, took digs at some idols , drugist idols and underground rappers haha. This is going t9 burn many kpoopies.. Also at those who want BTS to go away, so their oppas can get to top. Great. No sugar coating at all. That is what rap is all about. Your writing skills as well as rap skills.>More like 99% of those clown idols wouldn't know how to express themselves, how to write decent lyrics, how to produce, etc. even when given the chance by their companies"W-we're a peaceful fandom, yet always get attacked!
No. 91504
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>>91497from the article previous anon linked
how much do you want to bet the f4 was prowling for girls and drugs? he basically said the only place to get "harder" drugs were the big clubs in gangnam, im sure the seedy ones in itaewon had a supply too
ofc these fans will keep insisting all their oppa did was eat pizza kek
No. 91518
>>91505i think the beat and actual song sounds nice, but the lyrics are so tryhard. i get its a thing in rap culture to jerk yourself off, but all of his songs are literally "im better than you bc bts got lucky" which gets old
i actually did really like "dear my friend" regardless of if the lyrics are hypocritical or not, simply because its softer and suga's voice isnt horrible over softer songs
No. 91522
>>91435Hahaha I miss Idol F4. The milk was so good back then. I can't imagine the chaos that would happen if someone got caught smacking their fans around today.
KHJ was messy as hell, but he sure as fuck catered to his diehards. It was crazy watching how fast they turned on him.
No. 91524
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>>91522the thing is KHJ still has plenty of fans who still support him after everything he's done lol
He did some world tour last year and got a ton of fans to come, which is baffling considering he's a literal POS who beat his girlfriend until she had fractures
How these fans still support people like this is beyond me…the market is so saturated, its really not that hard to find another oppa to obsess over
No. 91527
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>>91524more texts to his pregnant girlfriend, what a decent dude
No. 91532
>>91529i agree with the previous anon saying jaehyun was a bias pick, but haechan is genuinely a good dancer and very good singer, and funny on variety (if you like his over the top style)
people keep pushing mark as haechan's golden boy ace, but it seems haechan may be transitioning to their "ace" especially in this past year with all his comebacks
No. 91535
>>91523I think Mark, Haechan and Ten are very well-rounded. I think Haechan is going to be SM's next it boy.
Ten is one of the most talented idols in SM, imo, but since he is Thai and gay, SM fucked his career. Him being in WayV was a shit move.
Anyway, I hope Haechan replaces Taeyong as Sooman's official sugar baby.
No. 91536
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LMFAOOOOOOO AND HE IS THE VISUAL TOO.(nitpicking)
No. 91547
>>91529Haechan is good I don't think he's a great center, his singing and dancing style is repetitive and gets boring quick since there isn't much diversity to it. He isn't a visual either so there's also that.
>>91532That anon not picking Taeyong is also a bias choice since he's a great center, performer, and visual. There's also a couple of other members I think are all-rounded too but it's whatever.
>>91535>gayLol so we're treating this like a fact now?
No. 91548
>>91535i kinda hope so too even though i'm not a fan of him. his personality is too annoying for me personally, but he is not a bad performer and has a bit more charisma compared to the rest of NCT minus mark and ten. doubt he'd replace taeyong though- haechan isn't a failed jaejoong clone and he's on the tan side. plus, didn't he have a controversy early in 127's debut where he shittalked taeyong to some saesang/gf? can't imagine that went well with sooman lol
>>91536oh god this is tragic. winner has some good songs but man they're unfortunate looking.
No. 91549
>>91548haechan definitely has been gaining fans since the last comeback, but i agree he will never replace taeyong because he doesnt fit the "korean standard" for beauty solely because he's too dark, which is bullshit
i think he would do well as a soloist, perhaps like chen or baekhyun but i doubt he would have taemin levels of success as a soloist
No. 91564
>>91558jungwoo was never an ace, so i wouldnt say thats a good comparison
but yes, i feel like ten is underutilized in wayv, especially since he has such a big established fanbase and he's from SEA, which automatically breeds a certain dedicated fanbase that will follow him just because he's thai
>>91562im with you, i want to know who the big actual pieces of shit are, and also because im thirsty for tea and would love the inevitable delusional fangirl shielding and meltdown in the fandom
No. 91565
>>91564>>91558I used to be on the "Jungwoo ace!!" bandwagon train until that concert…kek. Actually, plenty of the members sounded terrible live.
>>91562Yes, I would specially love it if it's an idol from a popular ship. Or one of those who are babied by their fans.
No. 91577
>>91575i mean chen is one of the least popular artists in exo and his solos do ok
if haechan did a solo he would be more along the lines of chen, perhaps baekhyun was a reach. he definitely can sing, and if he did those floaty ost ballads the public would be pretty receptive
is he going to have massive solo tours? probably not, but he definitely could churn out a solo album or two and make decent money
No. 91579
>>91575Nah, he's been gaining a lot of fans lately. A lot of people think he is talented.
>>91577His Korean fandom is pretty huge, too. So I don't think it would be a Chen situation.
No. 91581
>>91579>His Korean fandom is pretty huge, too. So I don't think it would be a Chen situation.Lmao I don't think so either.
I just looked it up: both chen's solo and nct 127's latest album superhuman (their best selling one btw) each sold a little above 300k in physical sales. Nct dream also never reached 500k. So what exactly makes you think that 1 nct member alone would suddenly surpass those numbers…? Even the by far least popular exo member is still miles above any nct member.
The only one of them who has a chance of ever making it is jaehyun, but as an actor, simply because koreans dig his looks and thus don't care too much about talent.
No. 91583
>>91581jaehyun has done zero acting and after this itaewon scandal likely will need a while to recover his public image
also the dude literally has the personality of soggy bread, so i dont know where the actor charisma comes from. he'd just get destroyed trying to be a discount cha eunwoo with similar shit skills
if anything, jaemin may make it as an actor despite not being good since hes already landed acting gigs (if he stopped trying to fuck his costars)
No. 91597
>>91549>i think he would do well as a soloist, perhaps like chen or baekhyun but i doubt he would have taemin levels of success as a soloist? First of all taemin is less successful than both chen and baekhyun as a soloist and second of all everything
>>91575 said. he's ugly and a mediocre vocalst and only NCT fans with their low standards think othetwise.
>>91579He's gaining fans because the other members of his group said colorist things to him and called him a retard so now he's getting popular with SJW kpoppies, it has nothing to do with talent.
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The only nct member approaching relevancy is Jaehyun and we just saw Knetz rip him apart for being irrelevant. What is making haechans 2 fans so delusional?
Ugliness aside, I do feel bad for him because of how his members treat him. It's not only drean either, 127 do it too. NCT and Wayv are full of colorist pricks.
No. 91605
>>91598lmfao haechans stan twitter was just up in arms about him getting "bullied" for being dark because of some new dream content where jeno's making colorist comments again
the dream kids are going to be the first to break a large scandal, mark my words. the jaemin/jeno duo is
problematic af and they're going to get caught being pissheads one too many times and something will boil over
i saw a tweet earlier this week that since has been deleted about the newest weekly idol episode, and jaemin clearly swears and says "fuck" (ssibal) after screwing up at 15:45. i know swearing isnt a big deal overseas, but im surprised netizens havent started digging at him for it since its kind of rude in korea
No. 91613
>>91598>I do feel bad for himDon't. His personality is annoying as all hell. If I was in NCT I'd bully the fuck out of him too. Honestly curious as to how he gets by with the maturity of a middle schooler.
>>91597Hard agree in regards to SJWs. His fanbase reminds me of ratmys with how they try to market him as this poor underdog that no one likes because "no one can appreciate oppas unique voice except me!11!". Yeah, okay.
No. 91616
>>91615its definitely a part of korean/asian culture to make colorist comments, so im not surprised
it just seems like they pick on him a lot for his dark skin, kind of like exo with kai in the beginning, but he doesnt seem too bothered by it most of the time, and like other anons said he's pretty vicious too dishing it back so its just another case of fans making a mountain out of a molehill
No. 91619
>>91199>>91086>>91091Probably no one cares but I'll defend this, haha in the US, low to mid tier bars/clubs offer "shooters" which are like small concentrated cocktails and they always have ridiculous names like these, idk the origins but it's some kind of long-standing cultural inside joke. It's def been going on a long time bc just a few days ago I heard an American comedian mention these in a bit from 1992 (his examples were "red headed slut" and "sex on the beach," ive seen lots of others tho)
I'd say the reason they offer these drinks is to cater to tourists, but you guys sound pretty convinced that "foreigners" aren't allowed in this place. So if anything, this is only lame in the sense that this Korean establishment is trying to seem hip or "western" by copying American menu trends.
No. 91622
I don't get people who are into k-pop, but are constantly triggered by colorist, fat-shaming or sexist remarks. Haven't y'all caught on? K-pop is the opposite of woke. These things are normal in East Asia. Even if it's shitty, it's super normalized, thus k-pop companies dgaf about their idols saying this stuff in front of large audiences. Only international fans make a fuss everytime, but they're all broke af, so they don't matter to these companies.
If y'all are constantly offended by this behaviour, and you have every right to be, then drop k-pop once and for all, for your mental health.
It's not about being oppalogist or whatever buzzwords you can come up with, it's about having common sense and self-esteem.
Better go stan a woke westerner artist. They are more talented, too.
No. 91625
>>91618im asian…im just pointing out that the culture is very different overseas and they dont see colorist comments as
problematic most of the time, and its very "normal" for people to make these comments to their kids and friends. pointing this out doesnt make me an oppapologist, lol. any asian person can tell you the exact same thing because we all grew up being called fat if we werent skeletons and dark if we spent too many days outside
im not saying its right or nice, i'm just pointing out they do it because they're used to pale being pretty and dark being "dirty peasants" which is why he doesnt seem bothered by it and also makes comments to others about being dark
should it change and should they not be assholes about how tan someone is? yeah, but theyre not going to because their culture doesnt see anything wrong with it
>>91622basically what this anon said lol
asian culture is
problematic as fuck, but continously trying to use western sjw standards to measure oppa behavior just leaves fans disappointed
i get being angry over sexist comments/racist comments, but the colorism argument has been made over and over and people dont understand its literally a part of asian culture and how these people grow up, and unfortunately its not going to change
No. 91629
>>91623based on how kfans react to female idol "controversies" vs male idol "controversies", id say sexism is alive and well unfortunately lol
just look at how hara was treated for getting rightly upset at being publicly slutshamed vs the guy who was slutshaming her….all the netizens piled on her for being "disrespectful" as if kyuhyun wasnt being a total asshole airing her personal business on tv
>>91627when did i even mention SEA lol, and colorism rampant in SEA countries, theres entire documentaries about colorism and dangerous whitening treatments in SEA countries. its just as bad in china, japan, and korea.
colorism is an issue in all asian countries so i dont see how in generalizing an "entire continent". don't want to derail into a race argument but i really dont know what the fuck you were trying to say here
No. 91630
>>90534I thought Solbin was dating Jin at one point? There's a video of her going "Seokjin-ah!" that somehow ended up being heard during some backstage video.
Didn't Jin also have some thing with Lee Guk Joo too? lmfao
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>>91630they might have been dating or just really good friends, but i remember she got absolutely witchhunted by ratmy's for being "disrespectful"
she had to officially apologize for her "behavior"…the difference between female controversies and male controversies lol
>>91631off the top of my head he made some comment about jaemin being darker than him in that one old dream video, and ive seen some clips off vlive's where he's talked about people getting tan
nothing as bad as normal "colorist" comments, but he definitely joins in on the ribbing that they do when skintone comes up once in a while
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>>91642imagine being so average looking your own fans cant decide if you were in a bandmate's video kek
honestly i did like the music video, the bangpd painting was funny
No. 91693
>>91671anon was talking about the picture of bang PD.
Also I wonder why only a few members are in the MV, it’s not like they really do any solo schedules, even JK was able to take a break from spreading corona to film
No. 91718
>>91714lol he doesnt even have a degree, he just got into college and dropped out
besides who the fuck cares about idols being educated, theyre sing/dance monkeys and its impossible for them to get a college education considering 90% of them start training pre-high school and drop out
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>>91693Yeah I was wondering if these four are the ones that actually like each other in real life
No. 91725
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>>91722jin and suga definitely are friends, theres pictures of them going fishing together during their time off
i wouldnt be surprised if none of them got along with V/jimin, those two are absolutely insufferable and you would think BH would give "budding rookie actor" V a role in an mv if they had a choice
No. 91726
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I like some questionable looking k-pop guys, but this….is something I'll never get. Give me an EXO twink where their face matches their body anyday.
>>91725 Completely forgot about Jimin. I think Jimin has a lot of friends in the Industry, like he is in that group with Kai, Ravi, Taemin, etc. He doesn't seem super close to the BTS members.
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>>91728just wanted to drop in my favorite "bulky" idol…they can definitely look good while not being twinky twigs but wonho aint it
No. 91733
>>91731Kun actually does have a degree in music, but I agree with other anons. Your job as an idol is to be entertaining, no one cares about your credentials. I hope he gets to produce or something, but until then, no one cares about it.
>>91729 Yeah, most of the 2PM guys looked good with proportional muscles.
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>>91734we can add his dumbo ear brethren chanyeol into that one…he's been getting "big" according to fans who go nuts over it but muscles don't help the face
honestly i feel like chanyeol looked better skinny, some idols just suit the twink look better whereas idols like the 2pm guys look better bulky
No. 91744
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Lucas is in trouble for wearing a graphic lesbian sex shirt LOL
Either his stylists are complete idiots or the dude dressed himself and doesn't give a fuck..either way its really adding to the fuckboy vibe i guess
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>>91744close up of the shirt
some fans are spinning it as "omg he supports lgbt rights" as if something this graphic and objectifying is "supporting lesbians" lmfao
No. 91774
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plus hes hot a-heehee
No. 91788
>>91786i love how he doesnt even try to hide it anymore but ratmys still think hes a "uwu tsundere"
like the dude literally openly just zones out on vlives and doesnt even bother interacting with the members outside of work, he's an estranged cousin in your little delusional family at this point kek
No. 91797
>>91795someone posted a picture/gif in another thread and i cant find it anymore, but he definitely looks like a pill popper with the glazed skin/eyes and benzo mouth
it would be rich if he got exposed for abusing pills, considering all the shit he spews in his mixtapes about drugs being bad kek
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>>91798V is also a misogynist so not surprised considering they're birds of a feather
hasnt he been shown multiple times at fansigns talking about how girls need to dress "more modestly" and stuff? not to mention that gif where he was pulling some fan's hair and jin had to literally stop him lol
No. 91803
>>91801the girl from this supposedly defended him but the look in his face really makes it seem like he was annoyed at her and wasnt just "joking".
jimin smirking in the back ew
No. 91804
>>91802"I'm a bit turned off"
The replies at the tweet that shared the interview were truly something else, stans really need some self respect
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>>91802lmfao half of the bts guys dude say this shit, but "bts is so woke uwu"
v is just shit at handling his expressions in public, the others are just better at hiding their actual thoughts from the camera
No. 91807
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his lips always look like this. fucking gross. he’s a millionaire. buy some chapstick.
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>>91807his thumbs are even worse than his crusty lips.
No. 91810
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>>91808here's the article, it seems to be mainly about how BTS is
problematic lol
its an interesting read for sure (and the v comment is linked to an actual korean article, so ratmy's cant ree about shit being made up)
https://www.koreaexpose.com/korean-feminists-argue-kpop-stars-bts-are-misogynists/attached a picture of another gem tweeted directly from the official BTS twitter, i wonder which shit member was behind this one
No. 91814
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>>91810Surprised this article didn't mention that RM bragged about how he consulted with feminist academics to write "feminist lyrics" for 21st Century Girls in response to some of the criticism BTS have been given.
Here is the feminist anthem in question.
No. 91815
>>91814oh my god, im fucking dying
imagine telling people you "consulted with feminists" and coming up with
"uh youre really pretty and nice" as the lyrics
god that entire band is just a group of hacks propped up by their teen fanbase who lick their feet and praise everything they do
No. 91819
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>>91817not sure about timing, but he was definitely there during the filming wrap up, the last episode aired late march so they may have still been filming in early march depending on how tv shows do their film releases
No. 91820
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>>91810wow, an army who actually thinks critically about their oppars? A lot of people in this thread assert that korean fans are the craziest, but in the case of army I think the i-fans are worse, simply because they really don't see BTS for what they are, only the translated, filtered and culturally decontextualised version of them. A BTS equivalent US boyband would definitely not be heralded as "woke" or revolutionary in their message, imo the only truly remarkable thing about BTS is how they are just a quintessential kpop group yet somehow garnered so many overseas fans. Their more interesting concepts (e.g. bapsae) don't even necessarily translate culturally.
No. 91821
>>91820bts definitely has the worst ifans of any group, the sheer number plus the insistence of making their oppas bend to the western ideal of "woke" is a shit combination
not to mention the fact that they'll blindly shield anything and everything that comes out of BTS because they have it in their heads that the entire entertainment industry is out to get their poor underdog oppas and are jealous of their success kek
No. 91823
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>>91810BTS oppars are so influential!!!!
No. 91825
>>91824it would be even better if he didnt go anywhere and just decided not to go to the birthday thing lol
imagine hating your coworkers so much you dont even go to their birthday party when its literally kind of your entire job to be on camera with them
No. 91841
>>91806I dont expect V to be educated, but lord., he really is playing into the whole 'i'm the man who makes the money. Now bring me my dinner'
toxic masculinity.
No. 91845
>>91841hes literally an uneducated boy from the boonies of korea, if he didnt make it as a singer he wouldve just been a farmer with zero education, so its no surprise he has backwards
toxic masculinity views on most things
the dude literally said he wasnt used to wearing shoes so he takes his shoes off on broadcast all the time but ratmies think its "cute and quirky"
can you imagine if a female idol took off her shoes during filming and flung them behind her? her career would be absolutely ruined
No. 91864
>>91843Thank you. And like the other anon
>>91801 said, birds of a feather
No. 91868
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>>91722Definitely. The fandom always plays Jimin and Jhope as besties but I can see that Jimin is way too clingy and needy and violates normal boundaries with Jhope, so maybe the dude is really annoyed with him and tries to please him to keep the group together lmao. RM seems like a chill person nowadays and I can see him getting along with everybody or at least tries to hide the disgust, which both Suga and V fail to do. Everybody seems to hate V and he hates everybody. Even Jimin seems annoyed at him sometimes.
Jimin and V are both weirdos and clingy mfs that make everybody uncomfortable with their gay shit and extreme pda, maybe that's why they get along and love to play the soulmates bffs thing. I genuinely believe they do this because it's normal for them, NO ONE in bts does that kind of shit and it has always been like that since day 1, V being a weirdo, talking in baby voice and acting cute, trying to kiss and hug everybody despise the rest looking uncomfortable and Jimin literally sexually harassing JK…. it was so disturbing
No. 91877
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Jaemin's trending on naver again lol for having "couple bags" with his supposed girlfriend
NCT just cannot catch a break lol, they've been churned by scandal news since dream came back
This is a god awful ugly bag though kek, i cant understand "high fashion
No. 91881
>>91576Wtf he's a horrible singer. And that tweet was praising him too lmao
>>91875>Haechan at number 2You Haechan stans need to chill
>>91877She's too pretty for him tbh
No. 91883
>>91881jungwoo is not good live, im always baffled by people who praise his singing lmfao
and to think people keep praising him for "passing the sm weekend audition"
jaemin isnt unattractive by any means, but i agree she is gorgeous. he's just so over the top and fake/weird it makes him less attractive lol
No. 91892
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i.. what the fuck? i found this on a reddit post (i know, i know) announcing izone's new album. spending 3k on copies of the same album, and then planning on spending 7k more… i usually don't care how people spend their money but holy shit. what is the logic behind this?
No. 91896
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>>91892there was an article today on pannchoa about rabid idol fans and their rooms and its honestly kind of sad
i get this is a hobby thats no different than collecting anything else, but it just feels creepy because its kpop lol
end of the day people choose to spend their money how they like, but i agree spending 10k on albums is ridiculous, thats way beyond the cost of trying to get all the photocards and merch, which easily could just be bought online
i wonder what they do with all the albums…
https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2020/05/enter-talk-average-normal-idol-fans-room.html?m=1 No. 91897
>>91884Basically what
>>91890 said. Talking about anyone under at least 300 followers is kind of vendetta-y to me, might be better vent about them in the personal cows thread without directly naming them. Other than that it should be fine to talk about specific stans if they're really cowish and not someone you argued with on twitter and still resent.
No. 91899
>>91898interesting, i cant imagine taking all the time to do that reselling and spending that much money to begin with, but i guess this is their hobby
its just baffling, because didnt another anon say physical album sales didn't really matter? i may be mistaken but i thought i saw a comment talking about how physical sales arent weighed as heavily for charting etc., its mainly streaming
No. 91901
>>91900i cant tell how to determine if an MR is "off", but i agree they sound way too stable considering the mess of a beyond live they had. i cant imagine being that stable, especially near the end after jumping around in jackets for 3 minutes, but fans will believe anything and also even if they know its not real they'll fake it and keep pretending their oppas are multitalented cd eaters kek
what would be an example of an accurate MR vs one of these where they just removed the music off the recorded track?
No. 91909
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>>91868I think even RM finds Jimin’s neediness annoying. Pic related is from a Vlive where RM was explaining to Jimin that he needs to remember to shower/ take his contacts off after concerts. Imagine having to deal with this kind of shit on a daily basis lol.
No. 91910
>>91909even if hes just pretending to be cute and playing it up for the camera its dumb lol
i guess ratmys eat it up but what normal person would find a grown man uwuing about "forgetting to shower and remove contacts" funny or cute
RM does look super fucking done with him here though kek
No. 91912
>>91628could u not
>>91744who tf let him wear this? you'd think somebody would've told him "hey buddy,maybe don't wear that shirt, might not be the greatest PR"… His stupidity runs deep, huh.
>>91757Yeah but considering they aren't even allowed to date, this ruins the innocent image idols try and have. I guess you're allowed to dance provacatively and sing somewhat dirty lyrics but at the same time pretend you've never had a girlfriend. It's weird and contradictory but apparently it works, considering the crazy fans.
>>91784if they disbanded tomorrow all of them would probably have enough money to never work again, so it'll be interesting what kind of weird shit they end up doing
No. 91919
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>>91918yup, meanwhile jaemin is furiously spamming bubble messages and theyre all so over the top and cringey
at least he knows what sells and does his job, but he has to know this feeds the delulu fanbase and if this girlfriend thing gets worse he's fucked
i guess the money is worth it, i dont feel bad at all if he gets destroyed kek
No. 91966
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>>91378Apparently she’s been going through a lot lately. She vented on Instagram (now deleted) about how people are two-faced and “using” her, and said she misses Sulli. She didn’t say mention it here, but she lost a friend to suicide a month after Sulli’s death (and the friend’s family got mad at her for talking about it on air). No idea where you got that picture though. If real, that’s concerning, but you’d expect people to be talking about it and they aren’t.
No. 91972
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>>91967For real, that girl just couldn't catch a break. Nothing she ever did mattered, because her legs weren't stick skinny. I remember all the comments back then were about how her legs were so "gross". So, she diets and everyone says she still doesn't look good. Then she finally gets a solo and it flops. Anyone would have self worth issues.
No. 91975
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>>91973same anon. sorry i’m retarded and hit reply before i wanted to. anyways, part of luna’s problem was that she had muscle built up from dance training but was standing next to krystal & victoria, who were both slim. pic related (and honestly, if krystal was an ana-chan at the beginning of their career, it wouldn’t surprise me). now, krystal has gained weight and gets called called a man, and luna has lost too much weight and isn’t doing any work bc people found her annoying on variety shows and her albums don’t sell.
No. 91979
>>91970yup, its a blank for where the fan's name would be autofilled
honestly i was digging around and found a twitter (in all korean, so i wont attach a picture) either created by an antifan or an ex-fan, calling him out for his couple items and stuff. they also seem to call out jeno for a couple item with a potential girlfriend, but there arent pictures of the other half.
it seems like an angry ex-fan to me, they keep bringing up his cartier bracelet that he wore for most of last year and into ridin promos a bit this year before the scandal broke and he took it off
they also go into how his bubble messages are over the top and cringey but hes still out here with a girlfriend. it's quite an interesting read into the mind of a delulu if you speak korean, but he really kind of asked for this one
https://mobile.twitter.com/idol_Machinefunny enough i found it because jaemin stan fans were furiously posting about how to mass report the account to take it down kek
No. 91982
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Lmao what the actual fuck is this?! I swear kpop stylists are running out of ideas
No. 91985
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>>91744>>91912Stylists in this industry clearly don’t have even a moderate level of intelligence
so it doesn’t come as a surprise, pic related (the infamous “hoes take off your clothes” shirt)
No. 91986
>>91967>>91972She never got a break from knetz honestly. She wasn't as tall and glamorous as Victoria/Krystal/Sulli neither did she have Amber's "cool tomboy unnie" personality to set her apart, so she was ripped to shreds for having the gall to exist and be short and darker-skinned with natural dancer's muscles.
Then when she finally got surgery and slimmed down and tried to show off her body with bikini shots and deep cleavage dresses she got slammed for trying too hard. I do find her annoying, but I sympathize with her because she never really got the chance to prove herself the way girls like Hwasa/Hyolyn or Jessi (all not considered attractive by Korean standards either) did
No. 91987
>>91982he looks like a male chungha here…this styling is not good
kpop stylists have always been super hit or miss, and now its trendy just to plaster designer shit on idols and make them walking mannequins for whatever sponsored stuff was sent to them
No. 92000
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>>91985Y'all noticed that Twice have THE worst styling for a top girl group. Everything they wear looks cheap, basic and like it's from the 2010s. Where tf is JYP putting the money? Like come on even Tzuyu looks frumpy here.
No. 92002
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>>91919I’d do cringe shit too if that’s what it would take to be able to buy an ap at 19
No. 92004
>>92002yup he definitely knows what sells and brings in the fangirls and he milks it for all its worth lol
im just waiting for this girlfriend thing to completely blow up in his face, he doesnt seem too smart and his girlfriend doesnt seem to be trying to hide it that much if they are still dating, i cant wait if they actually get caught out with photos or a scandal a la "kai krystal condom" kek
the delulu fans who buy his bubble service would spontaneously combust if they found out he was buying condoms heh
like i said these dudes rake in the cash for acting complete idiots and selling the delusion so i dont feel bad at all when they get exposed, not to mention jaemin seems to be questionable behind the scenes so we'll see what comes up as he gets older
No. 92009
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>>92000Oh anon, don’t remind me kek.
TWICE easily has one of the worst stylists in the industry, while ITZY generally looks good (especially when you compare their style offstage to that of TWICE members). Would it really be hard for JYP to find stylists of equal caliber for both groups? And it isn’t favoritism, since TWICE has a history of looking like shit.
No. 92011
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>>92008Sana looks gorgeous in her teaser but I hate those contact lenses
No. 92014
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>>92011Sana’s a pretty girl, and I can’t think of any times when her makeup looked particularly horrendous, but the stylist has a history of dicking her over when it comes to stage outfits. I feel kinda bad for her
No. 92022
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>>91993He was a very cute kid and would have become a very handsome man prior to that. It's sad, especially as it's not like fillers which you can just let wear off, a jaw shave is permanent.
No. 92025
>>92023Yuta didn't get a jaw shave, he got chin fillers. That's why his looks have gone back to normal now.
Jaw shaves are permanent. A jaw shave is a partial removal of the bone of your jaw. It will not grow back - bones can heal themselves but they can't regnerate themselves, if you completely remove a section of bone then it's gone, it won't grow back.
No. 92026
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>>92023Jaw shaves are permanent and dangerous af. That's why if you do it, you have to have constant touch-ups. Idols who shave their jaws always look puffy because they keep getting fillers to fix the after-effects. Also, they are left with sagging skin, even if they are skinny af.
No. 92029
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i thought this was funny. this is a real picture of chuu from loona on a subway
No. 92031
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>>91906Nine Muses were Pavarotti levels of talented compared to some new girl groups like Itzy.
>>92016Sana wears hip pads, too? Speaking of Itzy, just found out Yeji wears them too, and they are so obvious. Why do they>>92029
do them so dirty? JYP has the worst stylists, indeed.
>>92029 lol, not sure if staged, but that's cute.
No. 92035
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>>92032Samefag this is Jennie without hip pads, for example
No. 92039
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And I just found out Seulgi wears them too. My life's been a lie.
I don't mind if they wear pads or whatever, but I would feel really uncomfortable with everyone assuming I have a great body, and it's all just padding. If they ever want to wear a bikini or something, they are done for.
No. 92042
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>>92039 same anon
I just can't trust anyone anymore, lol. All these idols singing about being and loving yourself, and how they don't care about haters, but they are all padded to the boots and full of plastic surgery, it's so ironic.
Even the guys were shoulder pads and insoles all the time.
There's nothing wrong with all that, except that their fans end up doing stupid fad diets to look like them, and the idols themselves don't look like that.
No. 92044
>>92022When I look at this picture it also looks like he got some utah chin fillers. holding out hope that this means he didnt actually shave all his jaw off and it only looks that way.
>>92023I watched a jaw-shave process (animated) and it is genuinely horrifying. The recovery is so scary as well, you lie there for weeks with tubes vacuuming blood out of your mouth. Boggles me how lightly the procedure is taken in SK.
No. 92050
>>92048because they want everyone to believe these girls all have the rail skinny figures with the voluptuous hips and chest (a la emily ratajkowski) lol which literally never happens
i cant imagine dancing with pillows stuffed around my ass, imagine if they malfunctioned and slid out of their shorts while they were dancing kek
No. 92053
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BFree got arrested for apparently showing up at another rapper's house and socking him in the face after they were making diss tracks at each other lol
Ofc ratmys are rejoicing that their archnemesis rapper who called poor bts gay has been arrested, i cant wait for the "savage" rapline digs in their new album
Spoilering for the tiny bit of blood in case someone gets triggered over a scrape kek
No. 92054
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haechan getting fatshamed by dream members was mentioned earlier but like… why do they do that? he’s skinny, the same size as yeji.
No. 92056
>>92054i think its just because they like to pick on him, hes definitely gotten very slim in the past year
also he is tiny, kpop men truly are a bunch of manlets kek
No. 92066
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>>92054Lol that isaac screencap reminded me of this astro vs nct height difference.
No. 92069
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>>92066I didn’t know that astros height distribution was like that, they could’ve at least sent one non-manlet member on that show lmao
No. 92078
>>92046agreed…but i also wanted to mention how i find it interesting that even the "curvy" idols have a flat ass. Idols like hwasa have huge thighs but there literally is no ass-like- it's like a continuation of their legs.I don't know how to describe it really lol but there's no fold at all.
I don't mean to shame asian girls or idols but that must be a genetic thing right?
No. 92093
>>92091Yeah I was waiting for weeks for the right time to make that post because it’s such a blogpost. The topic on padding was kinda related? Anyways thanks for your advice anon
>>92053What goons. They’re taking rapper cosplay so seriously
No. 92096
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>>92054i've always thought that haechan was taller, but apparently he's the second shortest in dream. he has ok proportions tho
>>92093i'm afraid i'll get banned for being ot, but;
take her to a clinic or hospital that takes care of eating disorders asap. the longer and deeper she sinks into the ana hole, the harder it will be for her to recover.
No. 92097
>>92094Not OP but I think (hope) you either can’t read or missed the “she’s been starving herself” part. Either way, this isn’t the vent thread, no reason to keep this conversation going.
>>92069I don’t follow Astro but the shortest one’s listed as 5’8 and is actually barely over 5’6 kek. With this photo for reference none of them are even close to their listed heights. It’s such a joke, like why lie about something so blatantly obvious?
No. 92117
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It's finally confirmed that BH bought a majority share of Pledis
I wonder how this will affect seventeen lol, they have a decently big following, definitely bigger than TXT who just piggyback off ratmys. I wonder if BH is going to try and build seventeen as the older members ship off to the army, or continue trying to make flop txt a thing and let seventeen rot
No. 92118
>>92094>let a kid probably younger than 13 enjoy starving themselvesokay
anon, maybe tell your parents about it unless they are like super assholes or something? starving yourself as a child is dangerous and could lead to future issues
No. 92120
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>>92119oh my god i hate the stupid "storyline" shit bts does, just make a pretty video and have your monkeys sing and dance, i dont get why everything they do has to be "deep"
ofc the ratmys eat it up and talk about how different their bubus are from the rest of the industry, so who knows
does anyone remember the fucking horrible webtoon they had running for a while? i tried reading a chapter or two but literally couldnt tell the characters apart so i gave up
No. 92145
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>>92054Lmao I mean yezi is no small girl but nevertheless…
>>92066They look like this although yuta is also a skinny manlet…
Sometimes I wonder whether astro was only made to make eunwoo look even better, he's got zero competition within his group
No. 92184
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>>92169I actually like it, it's better than the usual boring ballads that all male idol solos (minus Taemin) usually do.
Seeing this reminded me of your comment lol
>>91549>i think he would do well as a soloist, perhaps like chen or baekhyun but i doubt he would have taemin levels of success as a soloist>>92117So now two of the f4 members can hang out together even more often?! Good for them
No. 92215
>>92145>They look like this although yuta is also a skinny manlet…Lol I'm the anon that posted that pic and that's what I thought too. Like damn those astro guys must be tiny as hell
>Sometimes I wonder whether astro was only made to make eunwoo look even better, he's got zero competition within his groupHaha same
No. 92217
>>92193id hope BH would try to market seventeen over txt, but knowing them theyre just going to try and use the ratmy nostalgia factor to push txt into the limelight while occasionally collecting seventeen money with minimal comebacks
i dont get why they push txt so much lol its so obvious theyll never be the next bts even with a lot of luck because they all suck
No. 92234
>>92228>>91435 is the "old f4"
jaejoong: headass, just gets into small controversies because hes an idiot (e.g., covid prank)
TOP: drugs, HSH scandal
KHJ: beating ex-gf
Yoochun: drugs, ex-fiance, toilet rape scandal
i think netizens are mainly being cheeky referring to the itaewon f4 as the "new f4" not because theyre expecting them to end up like the original kpop f4, but because its a group of "flower boys"
although i wouldnt be surprised if these four got into messy scandals a few years down the line, especially jk
No. 92238
>>92234speaking of yoochun. theres this article
http://koalasplayground.com/2016/06/28/k-netizens-dig-up-evidence-of-yoochuns-love-of-bathrooms-while-his-chinese-fans-rally-to-support-him/ thats translated from a netizen talking abt how yoochun always had a love for toilets before his rape scandal. hella weird
No. 92240
>>92234Jaejoong has fucked up a lot more than that COVID joke, but his fans always bury his scandals. He got arrested for DUI, he had a scandal where he beat up some stalker fans (there are recordings of him insulting them and beating them), and remember when he said this?
All you guys who just booed probably don't have boyfriends, right? Currently, the birthrate is low in our country. Pregnancy before marriage is not even a bad thing nowadays. It seems like there are a lot of good male fans here, so get their number and you know? And since this [venue] is near universities, there are a lot [of guys] outside."
He is a proper asshole.
No. 92241
>>92240oh yeah for sure, i just was drawing a blank on what other stupid shit he did because hes so irrelevant now lol
i remember his scandal for slapping and beating a "sasaeng", but if you listen to the recording he literally calls her over to him and hits her across the face lol
jyj has the most rabid loyal fans though, especially jaejoong so he just gets shielded for pretty much whatever he does. the covid scandal was the most recent "big" scandal that drove a decent amount of backlash
0:40 in the video is when he starts smacking the girls around
No. 92243
>>92241lmao @ nayeon take some notes, that Josh mans should be catching her fists, not feelings lmaoaoaoao
but this industry so effed up that nayeon's career would be done for if she was involved in something of the sort smh
No. 92244
>>92243considering how bad and well known her stalker situation is, i dont think the public would fault her for screaming at him if she actually did. plus he's a foreigner so koreans dont give a fuck what happens to him, and hes actually batshit crazy
ofc you must be stupid to think any female idol would confront a stalker like that lol
No. 92245
>>92244mf who said i thought nayeon or any other female idol, at that, would actually do it lmao
i just think it'd be satisfying to hear audio of nayeon throwing hands at that creepy bastard, is all
No. 92246
>>92243>>92244The difference is that female idols genuinely fear for their lives when it comes to sasaengs, while male idols are only annoyed with the ugly ones, and fuck the others.
Anyone remembers Haechan's scandal? There are also recordings of him talking to sasaengs. He bought them gifts and everything. And he said that Taeyong was a good visual but had a shit personality, lol.
And then you have NCTfags pretending they all get along and have a great "bond
No. 92247
>>92246yes anon,his conversations have been mentioned and posted multiple times
I hope Nayeon will never have to meet that Josh guy though
No. 92249
>>92246lmfao i dont get nctfags who believe that "all of nct is one big family!!"
like theres almost 2 dozen of them, i cant imagine being close with 2 dozen people at work let alone a group of egotistical insufferable brats that likely are shit behind the scenes
i can see some of them being close, but its definitely more along the lines of small cliques/groups of friends with the rest of them just tolerating each other
hell they dont even sync up and pretend to be friends on camera half the time lol
No. 92252
>>92249Mark and Haechan literally can't stand eachother and they are the most popular ship, lol.
https://twitter.com/turn_upthe_sun/status/1264489790860230656>>92250I can't believe that guy hasn't been arrested.
No. 92253
>>92252That was when they were supposedly fighting over something bts
I don't think there's bad blood between them though even though Haechan can be too annoying sometimes
No. 92255
>>92252theres literally a video of mark about to fight haechan on stage in like 2017 lol. i get theyve been together since they were preteens, but haechan honestly seems insufferable and i can totally see them fighting a lot behind the scenes
the other members expressions in the video say it all kek
No. 92261
>>92255Kind of off topic but damn, I'm impressed at how hard the choreography for this song is. I had no idea NCT Dream had any song with this level of choreography. They're using relatively big movements and are constantly getting up from the floor here.
>the other members expressions in the video say it all kek Jeno looks so done when he goes to standby lol dismissing/ignoring them haha
No. 92264
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>>92255This is amazing, the other members were ready to stop a fight.
>>92261I don't like NCT but I do like their choreos. Theirs and SVT's are on another level. The new Dream choreo sucks though.
No. 92268
>>92267there are fantaken pictures of haechan and mark hanging out individually outside of promotions though, so if anything i feel like theyre actually friends/have a sibling relationship but also fight because haechan is fucking over the top and narcissistic
their relationship actually seems like one of the more genuine ones, along with jisung/chenle and jeno/jaemin (all platonically of course, even though fangirls love to sperg about how they're obviously fucking behind the scenes)
haechan does seem to have an insufferable personality at times, so i wouldnt be surprised if he got on everyone's nerves
i also love how he basically outed taeyong as having a shitty personality but fangirls still sperg about how haechan is taeyongs uwubaby…like they dont even interact on camera, where did this come from kek
No. 92271
>>92269mark and haechan literally fought so much during that 2017 promotion that they deadass changed the choreo so they wouldnt have to touch each other LOL
im sure it was also angsty teenage hormones in play since they were literally 16/17 here, but it makes for hilarious drama to watch
No. 92272
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This was last month, I don’t think they hate each other.
I can see them clashing a lot tho, Haechan said that Mark is the most stubborn person he knows.
No. 92274
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>>92272all this mark/haechan talk aside i wonder how much actual fighting goes on behind the scenes, there's definitely stories of idols (got7, super junior) getting into legit fistfights but i wonder how often managers have to rip two teenagers off of each other kek
super junior's fights are legendary though, they seem like a ill-mannered bunch considering there's like 15 separate accounts of them getting into physical scuffles over the years
No. 92280
The only members in NCT who appear to actually like eachother are the foreigners, especially the Chinese, cause they are all basement dwellers, but I don't follow them that closely, so.
>>92278I don't think BH cares about the hyung line, as long as they can milk Jimin, JK and V, they are set. TXT seems to be doing, ok, right? And if they don't fuck up the Pledis groups, they are set.
No. 92281
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>>92268One of the members literally said this about Haechan when they were still smrookies lmao
No. 92285
>>92282people all say his personality is "fun" but we all know fair well if we actually knew a dude who acted like this irl we would want to hit him too
i think renjun said in an interview the first time he and haechan met haechan stole his food off his plate and they got into an argument, so it may just be how haechan acts day to day which sounds fucking annoying
No. 92299
>>92228>>92234Although bts is arguably the most famous group now, nothing will reach the insane popularity of those 4 back then. Despite bb definitely being big, top was kind of the least popular of them, but the other 3 were literally everywhere: jaejoong and yoochun were considered the most handsome, most talented, most funny and so on, and Hyunjoong's group also had many hit songs and he literally acted as one of the f4 guys in boys over flowers.
I'm by no means saying that eunwoo and co are going to be criminals too but it's not like anybody would've ever suspected that of the original f4 either…
No. 92301
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>>92299imagine having that level of popularity and fame and now end up being a trash ajusshi "guesting" on your equally unpopular useless brother's twitch stream kek
i never got the hype around yoochun but he has sure fallen hard
No. 92302
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>>92301I got into K-pop in 2009, just before TVXQ disbanded. I was a Changmin fan, and I remember all the hate Yunho and Changmin got from the fandom. They were called talentless, ugly, SM's dogs, slaves, etc.
Yoochun was considered the most succesful of them all. I feel SO vindicated now. How the turns have tabled, lol.
No. 92314
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Not sure if this was already talked about but last year chinese media leaked a phone call between Kris, Tao and sasaengs and somehow they talked completely calmy with each other. The idol-sasaeng situation is probably not always as black and white as one would think. All big fansites or those "bars" in China are sasaengs, so they're likely tolerated or even welcomed. Some sasaengs also have so much inside information that one could suspect that they really must know the idols personally.
https://www.koreaboo.com/news/chinese-media-leaks-phone-calls-exo-sasaeng-former-members-kris-tao/Weird af. Or maybe they hope answering the phone and talking to them for a bit stops them from calling again and again.
No. 92317
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>>92279Examples? At least I'm interested, and you cant just leave us hanging there anon.
I wonder how the post ioi groups are doing nowadays. I know Gugudan's basically dead. Have weki meki been able to garner some group popularity yet? Dia still seems to be coasting off chaeyeon according to this
https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2020/05/enter-talk-dia-members-inferiority.html No. 92322
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>>92290^ Now we know why he (and Taemin) debuted in the US.
Jokes aside, he obviously doesn't write his own lyrics, and I haven't really seen anybody who's seriously upset about this either.
No. 92327
>>92322lol even if he didn't write the lyrics, white koreaboos will most likely take this as evidence of him hooking up with white chicks just like how black koreaboos have done with other idols bringing up anything chocolate related in lyrics in the past.
>>92317weki meki still seems to be nugus both in korea and internationally for the most part. i feel bad for DIA- mbk is beyond shitty. i remember somyi broke down on IG live a few months ago and afaik she still hasn't come back. wouldn't surprise me if she's gone next comeback with DIA undergoing yet another lineup change or underwent a shitton of PS.
No. 92328
>>92322jeez I’m surprised they went with these lyrics
Also I find it so dumb when ifans take translations literally
>omg he said you’re inside me HE’S GETTING PEGGEDTranslations tend to come off stiff and awkward, and that phrase has plenty of non-literal meanings in English too. I don’t know if it’s a joke but some people will probably actually believe this. The song is obviously sexual, but somehow I doubt this is the direction SM was taking it.
No. 92336
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>>92317the companies that had girls in the og IOI group deadass fucked up by keeping them locked in their bigass nugu flop groups. they should've kept them solo like chungha and advertised them as models, actors, or soloists. they would've thrived so much better. especially chaeyeon and doyeon (?) as models and advertisement girlies and that one girl in gugudan who could sing decently as a soloist. it's been so long i've forgotten who the rest of the girls in that ioi group were.
shoot their companies could've kept them as a group for a few more years and just worked out some contracts together. i know there have been girl groups in the past with members who were a part of a totally different company than the rest.
No. 92337
>>92317gugudan were stuck in nugu-dom for their entire careers except for sejeong and mina. they're unofficially disbanded at this point with sejeong doing solo projects and sally on pdcamp 2020.
weki meki are still flopping mostly because of their shit company who only give them singles.
dia got some more fans with woowoo and woowa but they aren't very successful and chaeyon is still the most popular.
pristin didn't flop but their company screwed them over and wasted their potential.
out of all the post-ioi groups, wjsn is doing the best with decently sized korean and chinese fanbases.
No. 92339
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>>92329Highest selling concerts in Korea in 2019
1.BTS – LOVE YOURSELF: SPEAK YOURSELF
2.Park Hyoshin – 2019 LOVERS
3.PSY – Summer Swag in Seoul
4.BTS – 5TH MUSTER [MAGIC SHOP] in Busan
5.PSY – All Night Stand 2019
6.NU'EST – SEGNO in Seoul
7.BTS – 5TH MUSTER [MAGIC SHOP] in Seoul
8.PSY – Summer Swag in Daegu.
9. NU’EST – LOVE PAGE Fanmeeting in Seoul
10. PSY – Summer Swag in Busan
Found it. I wish there were a ranking with kpop only acts though but can't find it.
No. 92344
>>92340the performance was not great and the girls cant really sing, but the production value of this show is way better than full on year-end music shows that korea puts out
lisa was the least entertaining part of that entire video, this is tragic
No. 92350
>>92302lol now yunho is sm's golden standard for a "perfect idol" and netizens praise him for being the "immoveable wall"
yoochun is actual trash though, im surprised he's still thick skinned enough to try and start a fanclub and appear on streams but i guess he just collects blind fan money and ignores comments
No. 92351
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>>92348Same. I was surprised when I was told he was the visual. Jaejoong I could get, even if I didn't like him, but Yoochun?
Korean beauty standards were so weird to me back then. I remember when I got into SNSD and I thought Sooyoung was the prettiest, only to find out she was considered one of the ugly ones, and that Yoona was the visual. It took me like 3 months to tell Yoona, Yuri and Seohyun apart.
I feel like after so many years, I've been brainwashed by their standards though, because now I can always pick out the visual and I tend to agree.
No. 92360
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they did chaeyoung dirty by choosing this as the concept photo
No. 92362
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Does anyone know what's going on between ratmy's and winner fans? All I have is a screenshot of someone ranting on reddit, but I can't seem to find the ratmy meltdowns on twitter
The comments are great though even though its pretty obvious the general kpop community hates the ratmy fandom because they're so aggressive and quick to proclaim "bts is the best/most influential"
(Here's the link if anyone wants to read:
https://reddit.com/r/unpopularkpopopinions/comments/gqjbm5/the_problem_isnt_that_agust_d_plagiarized_its)
No. 92364
>>92340she’s so stiff and the moves look the same as her other dances. such a shame because she was a pretty competent dancer predebut.
>>92363half of them have horse teeth veneers they can’t close it even if they wanted to. also, why are the japanese members reaching out to the camera? is it part of some lore or what
No. 92368
>>92367i believe another member (johnny?) outed haechan for watching his own fancams in private and bragging to other members that he had higher view counts
it was meant as a joke, but is definitely kind of narcissistic no matter how you look at it
he definitely plays it up for the camera (his entire persona on camera is just over the top) but he definitely seems at least a little more into himself than the average person
No. 92369
>>92362There's a lot?? If I remember correctly someone from Winner (Mino) was at a private party or something during the order and got attacked by Ratmy pretty hard. There's a screencap somewhere showing one person comparing him to Jungkook and saying their precious bb would NEVER be so reckless and then defending JK when he gets caught but since he was outside of the mandate it's okay??
Ratmies attack YG groups for breathing, basically, and hate when people use their logic against each other or point out the hypocrisy of the fanbase as a whole.
Like when they accused EXO for copying BTS for having someone floating in the air in Obsession.
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>>92369oh i know theres a ton of ratmys sperging about mino/winner due to the covid situation, i was more so asking about the new agust d album and accusations of plagarism in the music video
ratmys are always holier than thou, whenever anyone else does something wrong they need to be prosecuted and lynched but whenever their bubu does something wrong it wasnt his fault kek
No. 92374
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>>92372Same anon. Not the MV, but the styling and concept. It's pretty undeniable, lol.
No. 92375
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>>92374the styling is definitely similar, although i dont think its enough to call it true plagarism
either way its great to see armys on the receiving end of the stupid bashing they do to any other fandom whenever another group dares do anything even remotely similar to what their precious trailblazer oppas do
i remember they bashed nct dream for wearing pink in their DNYL which was apparently too similar to the BWL concept…not knowing the video was filmed before the MV was even released kek
Ratmy hypocrisy is on another level…is it solely because the ratmy fanbase is super young? Or does BTS just attract more spergs for some reason
No. 92376
>>92371Yeah. I think at this point they're doing anything to kinda crush the YG stans and excuse BTS actions cause they spent so much time railing Mino and then their oppa has a similar look??
They're still in denial their group takes other concepts or even just looks cause OMG THEY INVENTED BREATHING. Yeah, the Hanbok is Korean culture but blonde hair is NOT that common as a combo.
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No. 92386
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Pledis CEO is in trouble for unfairly registering his wife as a credited producer under iz*one songs to get royalties
Funny enough this is revealed by dispatch a day after the BH/Pledis merger…was there actually a contract that expired/BH pissed someone off lol? If this is true I can't wait for all the BTS scandals that'll get revealed kek
No. 92405
>>92362Saw this too and it's so true.
I only like one of his songs but like most real rappers Mino doesn't really have young and crazy fangirls, in Korea he is listened to by the general public, like female and male clubgoers in their 20s/30s and Winner's international fandom also seems a lot more mature. Nobody is accusing Suga of plagiarism, they're only saying that
if it was the other way around, ratmys would try to push the people involved to suicide or to at least get fired.
It was the same with Bts suddenly using school uniforms after Exo made them popular: of course that concept doesn't belong to anybody, but it's quite obvious that you used it because others did so first and got a very positive response. Mino not only is the first (big) rapper to use a historical concept (I think he did so multiple times already), the long platinum blonde wig ponytail both him and Suga "coincidentally" wore is not something that royals back then had, it was solely Mino's idea, meaning Suga definitely copied that. Your oppar seems to very much like the very same guy ratmys tried to destroy for his fake clubbing scandal. If Suga was as tough and superior as he makes himself out to be, he would release a statement, ackowledging that Mino is his inspiration and telling his fans to show him some love too.
But of course that'll never happen, instead there now are ratmy posts with thousands of retweets and likes, accusing Mino of popping bills, telling him he's in a druggie company or "Karen, that's not a costume, it's literally his culture, you're disgusting!!!",…
No. 92418
>>92415Not really anything rememberable. It's sad, because I was interested in them some years ago. I think Shine forever, All in and Fighter are exceptionally good, but after Dramarama it just went downhill when they took a more generic and boring route. Fantasia is just your typical boygroup noisy edm mix. It's a shame too, because I really like Kihyun's voice but in these types of songs it just seems strained and forced.
Vid related to where I think his voice sounds way more natural and not as forced
No. 92420
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>>92415am i the only one that hate when groups throw in a random outfit in the end that doesn't cohere with the rest? plus what's with this fashion lol, they just look so old and homeless
No. 92456
>>92455I think both of them are cute girls (all of twice has to be) but in every official picture of them they both always looks like like someone photoshopped their faces on someone else’s head. Dahyun especially looks like she just found out what a smile is and is trying it out for the first time.
It’s weird bc on video they look fine.
No. 92458
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>>92452>>92351Pretty girls in every country look somewhat alike.
Back then Tiffany and Jessica seemed to be the most popular amongst ifans because of their pink and ice princess image and nowadays western fans love to hype up Hyoyeon and Sooyoung simply because Koreans call them ugly or dark.
Many idols looked tragic predebut and clearly required plastic surgery, including some SNSD members, while for example Yoona and Taeyeon were always cute, so the hate girls like them receive for looking "bland" is just ridiculous.
It's like some weird superiority complex, ifans love to claim the opposite of kfans, they could never admit that "boring" looking idols are actually indeed attractive lol
No. 92460
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>>92458No, I legitimately thought Sooyoung was the prettiest. I could see why they didn't find Hyoyeon or Sunny pretty, but I really never got the Sooyoung thing. She is not even darker than Yuri or anything.
Also, let's not act like Yoona didn't shave half her jaw off.
No. 92461
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Ticketmaster sent an email out last night to anyone who purchased BTS concert tickets and now have 30 days to request a refund even though NO new concert dates have been announced by Big Hit. How does this work? It's so disjointed to even do this when there's no dates to try to plan for. Both BH and Ticketmaster are a mess right now and people are pissed off.
https://www.koreaboo.com/news/bts-fans-tickets-ticketmaster-refund-controversy-30-days/?utm_source=sidebar&utm_medium=internal&utm_campaign=sidebar No. 92466
>>90306I got to say, I liked both Fantasia and Candy, but I can't shake the feeling that I've already heard both songs years ago. Although I'll give some credit to Baekhyun's vocals in the bridge.
Also, Baekyhun is younger than me but I still feel weird about him doing such a young concept. It's a song more suited to Kang Daniel or someone like that (it even looks like his latest release). If SM had a younger soloist it would had been a really good debut.
It's weird how kpop moves so fast that idols start to feel old even if they are like 28 lol. I was shocked that BoA is only 33 for example because of the way fans portray her.
No. 92467
>>92466Also, anyone else think of Samuel's Candy while watching the teaser? Song sounds nothing alike but it made the age thing more in focus for me.
Also where is Samuel? ONE was pretty good, I would had liked to have seen what more he released. I know they killed his dad or something like that? But I didn't hear anything more from him.
No. 92469
>>92462the mediaplay is so real lol
ofc ratmys are already eating it up and throwing shade at other fandoms trying to figure out who bts is referring to
the ratmy fanbase is cancer, i love how theyre always slinging mud for no reason but the moment another fandom says anything remotely critical they all become "omg ur victimizing us and our boys because we're successful and you're jealous
No. 92470
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did taeyeon get ANOTHER nosejob? her nostrils arent even the same size anymore(nitpicking)
No. 92472
>>92458holy crap. we never get candid photoshoots like these anymore
>>92460same here. i thought it was obvious sooyoung was prettier than yoona especially when they stood side to side. she's so pretty. her figure is so much like a sailor moon character which i used to weeb out as a kid
>>92455i see what you mean. they really should've done a reshoot if that were the best photo
No. 92474
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>>92473just glancing through the comments on the tweet the anon sent shows like most of them are delusional as fuck
"it came from their own mouths" and "they never lie" as if jk didnt lie about his entire itaewon situation kek
No. 92477
>>90306What did you guys think of Kim Woo Seok (X1) debut? It's the typical sexy debut that most young soloist have but I actually really liked the song, the chorus is interesting for once. And I did find him really hot in the video, even if I'm getting tired of the stripper "finger gun" move.
For someone I didn't even remember from Produce I was surprised lol but I'm not sure how much he can carry this. Donghan (JBJ) for example had the same concept and he lasted like 3 comebacks. Never heard from him again.
No. 92478
>>92470i had to check her ig to confirm this is a photo of her… im not even seeing the nose. im more concerned with WHY on earth would she post such an unflattering shot of herself? does she not notice the camera distortion or the lazy eye? netz gonna tear her apart
>>92385cringe
>>92302tvxq was before my time but what in the actual fuck is this? these vile creatures were idols back in the day? makes me wonder how all the present day idols will age
No. 92482
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>>92479the thing is a lot of them are older…like in their late teens/early twenties
when the entire jk situation blew up people were digging up ratmy tweets shitting on mino and some of those fans were at least college-aged, if not older
tangentially related, but this series of whiplash inducing tweets made me laugh
No. 92483
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>>92482they backpedaled so fast i had to think about if this was a troll or not kek
No. 92485
>>92462>"We're just so much better than all those other groups out there, isn't that right, boys?">"Yeah, totally."x6Of course they get along if all they do is kiss their own asses and collect money from their
army of batshit insane preteen fangirls.
No. 92491
>>92483the unintentional comedy kpop fanbases produce will always be absolute gold
>>92490ive also been hearing whisperings that jungkook and mijoo's relationship will be officially confirmed soon. i heard it will be by bighit directly, if true i assume because dispatch is sitting on some damning evidence. personally, if it really is true, i am looking forward to the atomic meltdowns and especially what shippers will say. on a probably way too optimistic note, maybe it will allow the other members to live more freely too and future relationships can be revealed too.
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>>92489lol this seems pretty damning, its funny how ratmys are still denying it because she doesn't look the part of a traditional korean pretty girl and "jk could get any girl he wanted why would he go for an uggo"
i love how half of these celebrities dating non-celebrities are exposed because these women cant keep their mouth shut that they're dating and leak pictures and "evidence" like…if you want to flaunt it at least make a private instagram and add all your friends so you don't get publicly burned by preteens for dating their oppa
i love how mj was liking a bunch of "supportive army comments" after this all broke like…you really couldnt just lie low and let it blow over kek
No. 92493
V cant fucking song. Oh my god I came across this thread of his singing and I think I've lost hearing on both ears.
Click at your own risk:
https://twitter.com/qnlrmrrl1023/status/1219239203159982082?s=19 No. 92495
>>92493jesus christ he sounds like a goat being butchered
i dont understand why he insists on singing in that higher indie register when he obviously naturally does not sit there
im being extremely optimistic but i genuinely feel like he would sound better, if not maybe even decent if he sang in his natural low register. would definitely be an improvement from "bleating goat
No. 92498
>>92494Yeah I remember that Weekly Idol episode with him and a couple other soloists, he was so awkward lol he was very out of place. I'm sure he's pretty fucked up because of his father and Brave. I guess it was better he took a break instead of continuing and making bad choices.
Talking about koreans and their racist tendencies, I noticed a new group debuted with 1 japanese girl, 1 indonesian one, 1 korean and 2 americans (korean). I was a bit shocked to see an indonesian member honestly. And they were on MNET too.
I wonder how long she'll last lol, I actually liked her voice. The japanese one looks like a knock off Lia from Itzy and has the dumbest face.
No. 92500
>>92477something about this wooseok kid's face is really punchable. he just looks like a very fake person to me, which makes me want to beat him up kek
the song is forgettable, and so is he. i have no idea why he's so popular, like i know produce was rigged n all, but still…(apparently he was one of the most popular members of produce in korea)
No. 92505
>>92502i dont think so, the dude actually seems pretty clean or at least keeps his degeneracy under wraps if he is shitty behind the scenes
the only thing i hear people talking about is the fact that he's probably gay and deep in the closet, but that isn't exactly an attitude/controversy issue. i dont think hes gotten into any dating scandals either, he does seem like SM's "final boss
No. 92510
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Jihyo's hair colour looks pretty nice. The MUAs could use some lip balm in their kits tho
No. 92511
>>92490If he's really dating her, then that actually speaks for him. At this point he could get any celebrity, so if he chooses a "commoner" who isn't really that attractive, it must be true love lol
I only don't get why she would stay with him after he didn't defend her and her coworkers. No matter how rich he is, that was so shitty of him.
Does anybody know this, a while somebody claimed that Ariana Grande actually wanted a picture with only Jk but BH would obviously never allow that, so she had to post one with the 7 of them?
No. 92512
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Here's some more ratmy sob story milking fron BTS's latest documentary
https://mobile.twitter.com/blackxagustd/status/1265259154769403905I wonder if this was scripted, or if he actually believes this (and knows hes not going to have a long career solo bc hes untalented kek)
Meanwhile ratmys are lapping it up crying about how this is so sad and OT7 forever
Honestly I would love if two or three if them pulled a TVXQ and straight up sued and left, that would cause a cataclysmic meltdown in the fandom even worse than when it happened to TVXQ kek
No. 92513
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>>92478Beauty is subjective so feel free to disagree, but I can see why Yoochun was the visual of DBSK when they first debuted. He had that sort of semi-approachable boy next door flowerboy look that was especially popular in the early 2000s. When I was a casual DBSK fan I always thought it was rough that he used to be so cute but looks awful now. After the drug stuff came out though, it all made sense. Shit like meth ages you horribly. He looks 50 even though he's only 33. I'd feel bad saying this normally, but he's a piece of shit so at least his outside reflects his inside now. He should be the posterboy for a drug addiction PSA. Don't do drugs kids.
No. 92514
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>>92493knetz have picked up on v's awful tone deaf wailing and the comments are fucking amazing
https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2020/05/enter-talk-wow-kim-taehyung-really-cant.html?m=1The second video on that article is even better because JK is trying not to cringe since he knows there's a camera on him lmfao
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>>92514the delusional "protect baby" ratmy commentary in the comment section of that pannchoa article is gold too
>killer performance, soulful baritone voice, and amazing personality
>screeches like a goat and can't even be bothered to keep his shoes on and pretend to be engaged with the camera
>pick one No. 92519
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>>92515Jaejoong was the center, but Yoochun was the visual.
Actually, at first, Jaejoong wasn't considered THAT good-looking by the general public. They said he had a big face, and that he looked bad without cirlce lenses (I sort of agree, he looks really different without them. This is an unflattering pic, but I can't find many where he is not using them).
No. 92538
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>>92514>>92517Meanwhile every single day there's a new article on allkpop about some song of V breaking a worldwide record, because…? Whom do they think they're still fooling at this point? He doesn't have an ounce of talent, ratmys are so brainwashed that reading this hurts
>it's not his fault, he has so much potential, his voice is so powerful, unique and ~soulful~Bitches are in their mid to late 20s and in the business for close to a decade already, then are they gonna improve? Do ratmys know that voices actually get worse as singers age?
Some people suggest vocal lessons, because good singers, like e.g. Baekhyun also constantly do that
>he doesn't have time for that, he's busy!And my fav
>bts is a rap-focused group, so don't come for their vocals!But he isn't a rapper?! They're not a unity, 4 out of 7 members are supposedly vocalists, so they should be able to sing! God…
No. 92541
>>92538>i would rather listen to voice cracks but emotional singingV is all voice cracks and zero emotion, these fucking ratmys are in denial, not to mention if any other idol singer had a voice crack or shitty MR removed they would jump all over them screeching about how "BTS ultimate talented kings your faves could never"
is there any fandom more
toxic than ratmys in the history of kpop? I feel like even crazy exo-l's (who arguably were the craziest fanbase in recent times) don't blind defend their oppas to this level
No. 92542
>>92512Meh, Jungkook isn't untalented at all, if he flops as a solo act it would be for other circumstances like all of his scandals
I really can't see any of them going solo after this contract ends, they'll all be in their thirties and probably eager to stop with the craziness and settle down to enjoy their millions soaked in teenagers' tears
No. 92543
>>90535Is everyone at Big Hit deaf?
Damn, this Taehyun dude, V, and Jimin make Jungkook sound like Freddy Mercury.
Thank God they own Pledis now. Let the SVT kids share their vocal coaches with them, pls.
No. 92544
>>92542jungkook seems "talented" because he's being compared to fucking jimin and V who both sing like cats in heat
if you compare his vocal technique as a "main vocal" to any other main vocal in the industry (e.g., any SM main vocal, winner seungyoon, infinite sunggyu, bap daehyun) he's considerably weaker than all of them by a large margin
the only reason his solo would do well is because ratmys will support him and "omg king" him through anything
No. 92551
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Lol I remember when there were rumours of Sooyoung dating Won Bin and I really wanted it to be true, because I thought it'd fuck up Knetizen mindsets so bad.
No. 92556
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OT, but there are rumours that SperM is coming back soon.
I can't wait for them to do this choreo they did at their concert. People were dragging them because of cultural appropriation, and everyone started sending e-mails to Capitol for them to change the choreo, lol. They obviously won't.
https://twitter.com/NCTFR/status/1254779499410948097 No. 92564
>>92556Mark acting as if he didn't grew up in Canada, the possibly wokest country on earth…
But somehow Amber and Wendy also got away with shit black or white artists would've been destroyed over.
No. 92569
>>92564didnt he move to korea when he was 10? i highly doubt people cared as much about being "PC" in 2010 as they do now, twitter outrage culture didn't really pick up in the past three years or so
besides, like other anons said, twitter "cultural appropriation" when it comes to using dance moves, etc. is not discussed nor cared about overseas in korea
the only time it's blatantly obvious and companies apologize is when a situation like the oh my girl video with "burrito mexico" when its obvious mockery and racism
No. 92570
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>>92511but they did take a pic together?
No. 92578
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>>92577i mean suga literally uses the "big house big cars big rings" line in every rap mixtape he ever comes out with lol
if that doesnt scream uncreative middle school then idno what does
even ratmys are starting to catch on kek
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>>92466>Also, Baekyhun is younger than me but I still feel weird about him doing such a young concept.If he was your average 30yo male it would be weird af but Baekhyun always looks like a literal child, so a sexier concept wouldn't fit at all.
No. 92581
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>>92579fr thought this was jisung from nct dream for a second
No. 92593
>>92213Infinite's songs were so good but I don't really feel the same with Golden Child? Kinda sad bc Golden Child is an impressive group in terms of vocals and visuals; I want to like them but if their songs aren't good then what's the point? Damn now I wish Woollim would just give them the scraps of old Infinite albums like SM and YG do with their fourth gen groups.
>>92379WB Son Dongwoon from Beast or Gyuri from Kara? I've been wondering for years if they have some sort of white or Middle Eastern genes in their bloodlines, though even if they did, the truth will never come out.
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I just got curious about how CL is doing since the last I'd seen of her were those disastrous airport photos from a while ago.
This is her a few months ago, I think. It's sad what happened to her career, I used to be a big 2NE1 fan.
No. 92599
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Samefag.
At least she likely has enough money to live off of whether she works or not, though. Still sad what happened to 2NE1, I hope the members can salvage their careers someday.
No. 92604
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>>92599I feel bad for Minzy especially… Imagine having your career peak while you were still a teenager and suffering from depression on top of that.
So, do any anons have experience with the latest stan twt drama?
Apparently there have been people spreading and dm'ing fancams with gore or jumpscares in them.
I dunno why its happening now, but the people behind this seem to just be edgy trolls. One of them, I think it was @seokclit, would even take requests to have people you dont like
triggered with these fancams on their curiouscat.
https://curiouscat.qa/SEOKCLlT/post/1101225126<Screenshot of one of them defending themselves by arguing that they only spread jumpscares.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CAk5MxMD5L8/Page warning people about the fancams, you can have a look through it if youre confused.
No. 92628
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>>92489whatever about the whole tomboy look, but could she at least do something different w her eyebrows??? they look so bad imo ugh
No. 92634
>>92519jaejoong still looks great but it'll be any time now his face will plummet due to all the work done to it. impressive how he's managed to sustain it all this long
>>92573didnt know this but unsurprised. he looks half asleep most of the time. could explain why
>>92598she obviously knows how far she's fallen but it is the netz who won't let go of it.
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>>92634there's a couple pictures of him with it/having it to the side, and there's a video here where he's just holding it and someone else keeps tapping at him to remind him to hide it and he doesn't even try lol
https://mobile.twitter.com/jin8oul/status/1250171405141975041?lang=enthe guy really just doesnt give a shit about his image anymore and its honestly kind of funny
ofc ratmys were trying to say it was a pastel holder (?) and also a usb stick?
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>>92639samefag, here's some golden ratmy responses
>we want to clear searches>why are you interfering with his personal lifethe delusional protect baby mantra is at a completely different level when it comes to ratmy fans kek
i honestly cannot wait for one of them to get into a serious scandal because god knows V doesnt give a shit anymore
No. 92662
>>92645that and spending time "clearing searches" for a grown ass man because hes an uwubaby and needs to be protected
im surprised the video is still up and they didnt bully her into taking it down honestly
No. 92680
>>92674i agree, if she cleaned up her eyebrows she's not unattractive, definitely better than 80% of the ratmy pigs that lose their shit over her kek
i just love how ratmys simultaneously pretend she isnt jk's girlfriend while also furiously stalk all of her social media to look for evidence just to shit on her and deny it
No. 92706
>>92702Yes? It's really not that hard to understand what I was initially trying to say. Anyway, for your clarification:
Of course JK likes MJ's edgy personality, but the fact that she's not cute (imo, at the least very unflatteringly styled) doesn't mesh well with the fact that you have to be attracted to someone to keep a relationship going. I offered a best case scenario of JK being able to get a chaebol offspring or an actress for the superficial benefits to illustrate that he has a huge selection of women available despite how cringey he can be. He does have those options, but he could always go for a "commoner" as well–personality is a huge factor in relationships obviously. But it still doesn't change the fact that sexual attraction also matters.
>>92704I don't know how you can come to that conclusion that he's "obviously not shallow" based off of one girl. The only thing you can deduce from him dating MJ is that he'll also date/fuck unattractive women who style themselves androgynous. Doesn't mean that he wouldn't probably go for big titty Afreeca streamers given the chance.
No. 92710
>>92690Same but tbh I'm always waiting for the other shoe to drop with him lol. Like one day he will fuck up badly, and we'll all look like idiots for being so confident that he's a good guy.
But even if he's secretly an awful person in private, at the very least he's amazingly good at managing his image and has the self awareness to not say dumb shit in public. And you can't deny how hard he works, at the height of my stanning I had pretty much seen every TVXQ performance from debut until like ~2012 including quite a few times irl and not once did I see him slack off while performing. He never phones it in, he's always at 110% energy.
No. 92711
>>92583i enjoy a lot of songs off of xx like um, fiance and
trigger. at this point being in winner is beneath him but he likes the other members and it seems like it's almost an outlet for him to make fun pop music. i wonder how he will fare after possibly leaving yg/winner's disbandment if that happens
No. 92713
>>92704"Not shallow"? Boy obviously has some fantasy of being with some rebellious chicks who are cool and broad-minded. Just look at him and his emo-like phase. He probably heard of the rumors the "not conventionally attractive girls are wilder in bed".
Not to mention that he looked like the loner type and the moment he was brought into the tattoo friend circle he must have thought imitating them will bring him closer to them.
It's just sad that he's in his 20s and still projects a teen behavior.
No. 92723
>>92704I agree anon. Just look at what type of women much less famous guys get with (was it got7 mark who has that z cup bimbo?), him dating a non-famous girl who works in a tattoo store and styles herself like one of those wannabe jimin fakebois is definitely refreshing and positive. I also like that she's the same age as him, usually even young guys somehow still date girls who are even younger than them (and one day they end up being a 40yo creep impregnating a female idol half their age…)
Even if this is not his only type or if he ends up dating other, more stereotpyically pretty girls: other men wouldn't even touch an androgynous short haired girl with a ten foot pole.
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Anyone have some funny styling mistakes they'd like to post? Pic is from
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1iBOOf9v5g No. 92732
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That sub is usually pretty levelheaded (and anti bts/ratmys) but this…
https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularkpopopinions/comments/gre554/kpop_groups_that_constantly_emphasize_their/How is it the truth just because bts says so?
Everything other groups do is fake, manufactered, forced, but bts claiming they're sooo close while dissing the entire rest of kpop is hard facts?
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>>92724considering Kris is fluent in English I'm kind of wondering if this was on purpose
No. 92740
>>92732Throughtout the whole segment while talking how they've a real bond and how only they'd get things done because they're besties, they were actually making fun of themselves and how they're lying about this exact same thing.
BTS members always tell them the reality in the eyes and ratmies are still looking at the screens with hopeful gullible faces.
No. 92741
>>92740Does BTS usually
explicity lean into the "not like other kpop groups" BS? That's almost as insufferable as their fans' behavior.
No. 92742
>>92739No, but bts saying it apparantly means it's official now.
If they're gonna be shady like this, at least be brave enough to drop names, it's not like they would get backlash anyway.
>>92741Of course?
No. 92756
>>92749It’s not about that.
Firstly it would be career suicide for the girl if she was caught dating bts. Secondly, dispatch won’t report on a non-celeb partner. It’s less risky in the grand scheme of things to just date normal people.
No. 92757
>>92741yes that's one of their biggest narratives.
another thing they do is CONSTANT sob stories. im not even kidding, they NEVER give it a rest
No. 92769
>>92757it's weird because i swear for a while they used a sort of 'monster rookie' narrative of a boygroup having an amazing debut and loads of success despite a small company. and now a few years later they've completely downplayed the part where bts had a reality show right after debut, were on varieties, won loads of newcomer awards, and instead just focus on the small company part
>>92634as long as jaejoong doesn't make his jaw any smaller i think he'll stay mostly okay. his eyes and nose have obviously been touched up a few times, but his jaw has been questionable for a ages. he doesn't have the uncanny stiffness in motion that plastic surgery disasters have and he looks way better than i imagine other idols in their mid 30s but when he's really singing you can see that his jaw isn't meant to be that small
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Jesus christ. These idols have no shame when it comes to blurring filters.
No. 92772
>>92770the snow app they all use naturally blurs a little, but it looks like he added another one on top which is hilarious, his scar is barely visible at this point
>>92766or end up like kang sung hoon, embezzeling fan club donations and committing fraud kek, not to mention dicking around with fans and being petty/jealous about younger idols
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>>92770not as bad as haechan’s ghost hand
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How much increase will SVT see in their MV views? Did armys give a shit about GFriend?
No. 92778
>>92775i think no matter the age they all just use snow as their default photo taking app, once you get used to the brightening/blurring/eye enlarging aspect of that app it makes the normal front camera look weird and off
>>92777they'll probably get a small lift from ratmys because "omg bh family" but the moment bts comes back theyll be forgotten
im not optimistic seventeen is going to get good comebacks, just because BH is so hell bent on focusing all their resources on TXT and BTS
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>>92766They already look the same
No. 92794
>>92792i dont see any of the current groups being anywhere close to the level of popularity BTS is achieving, solely because BH got really lucky with BTS timing
the other "top" groups right now are nuest, seventeen, and nct? NCT is a flop group riding the SM flag, they're not popular enough to even make the top selling concert charts in korea let alone garner the bts fanbase overseas
Nuest seems fairly popular, but again I don't think they have a rabid fanbase…same with seventeen, although they likely have the best chance out of the three, but now that they're with BH who knows what will happen to them despite BH saying they'll "operate independently"
The only way a group will get big is if it attracts the ratmy fanbase, and a lot of BTS fans are "bts-only stans" and that behavior is encouraged…hardcore ratmys dont consider other ratmy's true fans unless they only stan BTS which is so creepy and cult-like
honestly even BTS which likes to tout its popularity overseas is primarily unknown in the western markets out of koreaboo circles, so i doubt kpop will make a mark on any music circles outside of asia
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>>92726doja wore that shirt on a recent live lmao
>>92724pic related, the iconic baekhyun lucky one shirt
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>>92792A group that deserves the attention, though any other group will probably sell out like BTS eventually did when they switched to buying songs from Scandinavian producers.
>>92766I honestly foresee V getting into a scandal post-BTS for trying to sell his trash paintings for millions of dollars to fans. Comments would be like "kkk My three year old could do better than this, and fangirls are willing to spend 3 billion won? kkkk" and "Wow, for this has-been ahjusshi to make such a profit off of his fans shows how strong fandoms are…goosebumps"…I may have read too many netizen articles over the years to imagine this in such detail.
>>92797Pentagon is very, very bland but it seems that the ongoing Road to Kingdom show is in their favor; I have to say that because their performances are pretty underwhelming but they rank high.
Not to nitpick but this dude from Pentagon legitimately gives me the ick. It's not the fact that he's tall since there's another super tall member of the same height, except he doesn't give me the same anxious feeling. Dude legit reminds me of Sasquatch or a long legged bug that keeps scurrying away when you're trying to kill it.
No. 92813
>>92792I don't think any k-pop group is going to achieve that level of success anytime soon.
Honestly, I think that if the public sentiment against the Chinese weren't so bad, WayV could do relatively well in the west. If Capitol signed them and gave them the same push they are giving NCT127, I could see them expanding their fanbase by a lot, since they have 4 English speakers, their English in songs sounds actually intelligible, they are good performers and they have a fun dynamic. They could be like SuperM, but with actual chemistry.
But most of all, their biggest advantage is that they don't have to enlist, so they wouldn't have the same problem BTS if facing right now.
Still, they are pretty average, but it was a thought.
I would say SVT, but they have too many members. Maybe Ikon could've done well if it weren't for B.I's fuck up.
No. 92814
>>92813i would've been more inclined to say the same for wayv until i watched their beyond live, they are so bad and have no energy when they perform live
it's kind of sad because they did put out a decently western-friendly option with love talk, and like you said they have good english speakers and don't have to enlist
its too bad their live performances are not good, and their energy level is super low
No. 92822
>>92809Her apology live right? Lmao I thought I recognized the t-shirt.
>>92814I saw clips from their live and and 100% agree. They're extremely weak performers even Ten can't save.
Sidenote but I was really glad when Ten was put in superm because I was tired of seeing such a talented performer wasted carrying the weak mess that is wayv
No. 92824
>>92822i dont really think ten is that great of a performer or idol in general, but i do agree wayv is a mess just because none of them have stage presence
xiaojun and kun are good singers, but have zero presence on stage and honestly look terrified half the time. lucas is just a mess in general, and winwin/hendery/yangyang are forgotten and can't stand out on stage.
ten looks good in comparison just because the rest of them are so weak. i have read some chinese sasaeng accounts on weibo (so take with a huge grain of salt) that ten does not enjoy being in wayv and has had rows with SM over it, but again im not sure how sasaengs would know about that.
i wouldnt be surprised though, wayv is barely promoted and doesnt perform ever, theyve literally devolved into pet vloggers at this point with their recent content
No. 92826
>>92824 I think Ten is great by NCT standards, which isn't saying much. Same with Mark. He is only seen as this amazing idol because the rest of the group is filled with filler members, or competent robots.
I also read that rumour, it was around their debut in 2019. It said he didn't want to be there, and that it was creating a lot of conflict for SM. Can't say I blame him though, he was one of the most popular members and they shipped him off to China, made him learn a new language and everything, and now they don't even promote there. They isolated him from the KPOP market for nothing.
I would be pissed if a guy like Johnny got that sweet 127 promo while I'm rotting in a basement.
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>>92829kai's facial expressions are ok but he overdoes it sometimes
the entire love shot era was just him trying to pass a massive impacted shit whenever he was on camera
No. 92836
>>92824>>92826But wouldn't Ten get no lines in 127 if he was there instead? Plus there's so much money in the Chinese market, SM would be utter idiots to not capitalize on it. Are they not allowed to promote in China though? I thought that was handled when they dissociated WayV from NCT with their name so that they could promote in China.
Also can someone remind me if EXO-M was actually successful in China? I always thought EXO-M was successful but EXO-K was also on the same level of success in China which kind of defeated the purpose of having two different subunits.
>>92825Xiaojun has an incredible voice, he's just not a good dancer, but Taeil is an even worse dancer imo. Kun is a competent singer as well, while I think the rest of the members are solid dancers. Tbh I think 127 has a more noticeable uneven talent distribution with Taeil's black hole of stage presence and dancing ability compared to Yuta, Taeyong, and even Mark's dancing lol. I wonder why Taeil was even suggested to be in a dance-oriented group when he cannot dance for shit. Funny how Taeil performs so blatantly devoid of emotion, energy, and enthusiasm (video) and yet his fans still have the nerve to say "uwu why doesn't my baby get views on his fancams!" Sorry for the sperg but he has to legitimately be the worst performer I've ever seen in kpop and I've been into kpop for like 6 years now. NCT is truly Super Junior 2.0 lmao.
No. 92839
>>92836This is the last I'll say on NCT. Xiaojun did bboying predebut and he was pretty good at it, but it doesn't translate on stage.
I agree the talent distribution is better in WayV, but popularity wise, at least in China, they are too uneven. It's like Lucas >> WinWin >>>>>> Ten >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest. They'll be over the moment WinWin gets an acting gig.
Taeil is just waiting for SM to give him his solo/OST career. He is just ridin it out in NCT. He probably hates learning choreo, imagine having to dance to Punch, though? I don't blame him.
No. 92841
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>>92836wayv is affiliated under a separate chinese shell company because of the korea-china tensions and subsequent hallyu ban, so they are supposed to primarily promote in china although they havent been
there are rumors that they are releasing a full album shortly (june ish) as several large wayv fanbars have been taking preorders for the album despite no official news..
i totally agree with your assessment that taeil is a giant black hole when it comes to anything that isnt singing (visually, dancing, variety) but his advantage over xiaojun is the fact that he's korean lol
xiaojun is honestly the wayv visual (not lucas or hendery, sorry lucasfags) but he is like you said an extremely weak dancer not to mention really fucking shy and awkward, although i assume that will go away with time. plus he is absolutely tiny, i swear if he were four inches taller and didnt look like he was going to vomit everytime a camera was on him he would be the anime twink attractor of the generation
we'll have to see how this round of album promotions go for wayv but im not optimistic because sm has dropped the ball on all chinese promotions lol
No. 92844
>>92822Ten doesn't carry wayv..? He gets all the lines and screentime but thats just obnoxious to everyone besides his fans, its certainly not helping the group in any way.
>>92824Lucas has good stage presence imo, debatably the strongest in wayv. He's just hated itt for whatever reason. I actually think his stage presence is part of why he looks so awkward in superm. He's too in-your-face to work as a useless backup dancer.
>>92836Taeil should have been a soloist. I think it's sad that he's stuck in that group with no fans because he's ugly. He does have talent he just wasn't meant to be an idol.
No. 92845
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NCT is voting for a costumed dance practice and ofc the furry onesies are winning
The other options are:
Baseball uniform
Office worker style
F U R R Y
Farmers
Honestly i think farmers would look hysterical since half of them look plain as fuck to begin with so it would just look normal kek
No. 92847
>>92846this 100% lol the amount of lucasfags in this thread are phenomenal
the guy was casted into sm for one thing and one this only, his face. hes a sloppy dancer, cant sing, raps by talking over some music and is a "variety star" because hes loud and obnoxious and acts like a complete brainless idiot. not to mention he literally doesnt speak korean and has mentioned several times he doesnt bother paying attention to lessons because hes a jocky meathead who thinks being muscular and stupid is a cute trait
lucas isnt even funny on variety, his entire schtick is "stupid bumbling hot guy". if taeil or johnny did everything lucas did it wouldn't be funny because they're not attractive kek
hes the visual/fan attractor in wayv and does his job, but lets not lie and say the dude is talented
No. 92849
>>92831Better too much than not enough. An idol who overdances or makes cringy expressions can save the entire group from appearing boring. If there's not at least one person who stands out while performing, people will instead focus on the bad, boring or lazy "Jennies" of the group.
One also tends to forget that fans at shows or concerts won't see a close up of a single idol's face the entire time, it's for when they show up on the big screen (next to/over the stage, no idea how that's called), so that fans still see that they make expressions even from afar.
I also saw people complaining about Jihyo overdancing and smiling too much but honestly, if I was their fan, I'd vastly prefer that over some of the other Twice girls who act like robots. At least she enjoys performing (or pretends to) and gives her all for her fans.
>>92814>their energy level is super lowThis. I recently listened to them for the first time and I really like Moonwalk, but the live performance…? They're all so super young, yet already seem like they're totally over it. The dance looks difficult, but nevertheless no energy, no emotions, no excitement, no passion. So many girls like Lucas, it would be so easy for him to become a good center, yet he offers absolutely nothing.
No. 92851
>>92848momo is a good dancer, but she definitely excels more at sultry/modern dance styles over the poppy cheerleader stuff twice does
she has very good body control and facial expressions, but its all lost when she's bouncing around like a cheerleader in these twice dances
ofc jyp would never do a sexy/modern concept for twice because their entire schtick is the boppy high energy cheerleading squad. i would love to see a twice concept a la fx red light, but that will probably never happen
No. 92852
>>92846What specifically is he so bad at to you? I mean it. In wayv he's the best rapper, his singing is adequate, his dancing is second only to ten, he was the best choice for center, and he's the best in variety by a landslide. Not great at anything besides visuals and variety but certainly not bad by idol standards either, especially not gen 4 idol standards. All I see in him is a jack of all trades visual.
Also who do you stan, anon?
>>92847>the guy was casted into sm for one thing and one this only, his faceThis can be said about almost all of nct. His korean is bad though, if you've only seen him in Korean variety then I understand why you might think he's unfunny or obnoxious.
No. 92853
since I'm sure someone itt will know, what is Lucas' first language? He speaks in a mish-mash of everything I can't pinpoint which is his strongest
>>92836Taeil was definitely more suited to being an OST soloist. at least he can keep up with the choreography
>>92824I'm suprised at how winwin's dancing looks. maybe it's due to his traditional dancing background but he still doesn't seem to really pull off the hip-hop style of NCT/WayV. OT but it is so hard to find any decent fancams of WayV, this was the best i found focusing on him.
No. 92857
>>92852>In wayv he's the best rapperNah that's Yangyang
>his dancing is second only to tenThat's Hendery
No. 92858
>>92852his entire persona on chinese reality tv is also "stupid jock"…all of his humor is centered around being loud/bad at chinese
im not denying the majority of nct is untalented "visual filler" but to say lucas is talented is just fangirling lol
>>92853winwin kind of falls under the "momo curse" as well, hes a very good traditional, fluid ballet-esque dancer but all of those softer details are lost in the more high energy hip hop styled dancing that nct and most kpop favors
his lovely dance cover with ten was pretty good, he held his own against ten who's arguably the strongest dancer in nct
No. 92859
>>92852I stan TVXQ and Taemin. I used to stan Winner and EXO, too, now I just follow some members. Don't see what this has to do with anything, but if you are trying to come for my biases, I already acknowledge all their flaws, and Taemin looking like Oli London recently, I'm immune, lol.
I still don't get your point, anon. You admit that Ten is a better dancer and singer than Lucas, but think him getting lines and screentime is obnoxious? So Lucas should get more because he is better looking? He already does have the most center time, I think, right? Isn't he the center and visual? What more do you want? I don't get it. Let's agree to disagree.
No. 92862
>>92859well said, but lucasfags will be in denial that their fave fuckboy cant even speak one language fluently let alone sing/dance/rap in a foreign language
i dont get why fans dont just admit a good majority of their faves arent talented and only exist to bring fans to the group. the "visual" role is filled with useless pretty boys (vixx hongbin, exo sehun, bts v, nct jaemin/lucas) but they do their job because fans are intrigued by them and that's perfectly fine
kpop is a shallow industry, not every idol needs to be a multifaceted talented king but obviously delulu fangirls cant accept that
No. 92863
>>92858yeah he definitely is a good dancer. I guess that's the issue, kpop always demands the same style. Dancing is what primarily had me interested in NCT but all the choreographies are starting to blur together. I thought at least love talk would be different.
NCT peaked at 7th sense and limitless, kick it was a glimmer of hope but the subsequent dream song and punch…disappointing
No. 92864
>>92863i honestly wish kpop would do more modern dance inspired group dances, but that will never happen because then the weaker dancers will look absolutely horrible on stage
modern/sultry dances require a lot of body control and isolation, and weaker dancers will struggle, and mistakes make the dancer look like a struggling worm and stand out way more, but it sucks because then strong dancers such as winwin and momo who favor the more fluid dances can't showcase their style
even ten looks so much better when it comes to the sultrier stuff, but im sure someone like jeno or taeyong would look odd since they rely so heavily on power instead of control when they dance
No. 92866
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>>92857>yangyangok
>henderyLiterally no words kek
>>92859I never said that Lucas should get more lines kek. His line distribution is dead middle of the road and that's enough for him. I said ten gets too many, often more than Kun and xiaojun, the lead and main vocals respectively, when he's worse than both of them albeit more popular.
>>92858I never said he was talented either, just not as talent
less as he's made out to be which is true. He's fine by kpop idol standards. There are so many uglier idols on the same level as him, within his own group even, and they don't get singled out for being talentless as much.
>…all of his humor is centered around being loud/bad at chineseYou speak chinese or you only been watching crack videos (are those even a thing anymore?)
No. 92867
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>>92852>the guy was casted into sm for one thing and one this only, his face>This can be said about almost all of nct.Uhm no? That would require them to be actually handsome lmao The reason nct was cast will forever remain a mystery.
>>92169>>92170You were right. They're really trying to make this into a tiktok thing, some sm idols already uploaded "candy challenge" videos. Probably because even a shady guy like zico was able to get lots of positive attention for it.
Pic related gave me a good chuckle. Of course you have to shower the nations pride/cashcow with lots of love after some haterz criticised his vocals yesterday. Congrats to those music critics and vocal coaches: you're either extremely bad at your job or straight up corrupt.
No. 92868
>>92866i speak chinese and korean…his korean humor is literally "i cannot speak korean here is me shouting yeorobun into the camera"
ive watched lucas on keep running and dream plan, and he's equally stupid in both of them…i just searched "lucas keep running" on youtube and one of the first videos is him laughing hysterically at a toy chicken laying an egg as all his coworkers stare at him like he's retarded
No. 92873
>>92868Idk I watched Keep Running too, thats where I know him from and I thought he was funny. He can tell a joke when he wants to. The others in his group just yell a lot or have no personality at all.
Video was cringe though kek but he looked hot that day
No. 92875
>>92866I don't agree with the hate Lucas gets either. For a visual, he is fine. He is just easy bait. He holds his own. He is much better rounded than other visuals.
I don't agree with Kun being a better singer than Ten, though. Unpopular opinion, maybe. But he sounds breathy and pitchy in every live performance. Maybe it's nerves. That Face to Face performance they posted confirmed it for me. Ten has better breath support. They all sounded tired, though. This, too. Kun is straining. Sorry, I went all vocal analysis on this, but from a technical POV, I don't agree with you.
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>>92873>hes hot thowell we figured out why this anon was furiously defending lucas for 6 comments… no one is surprised and water is wet
>>92867i see these articles pop up all the time about V being talented/praised in the industry kek…guess one of the head allkpop writers is a ratmy v-stan
ofc there is zero coverage on that trending pannchoa article about v having shit vocals kek
heres some more ratmy sperging about how v isnt unprofessional/over idol life…the dude literally cant even be bothered to hide his juul or keep his shoes on during broadcast but he's "professional" and a "great singer" kek
No. 92877
>>92873Nta but come on lucasfags, no matter how hot you think he looks like, shit like this just has to dry you up. They worst is that he's not self aware either, he really thinks he's hot shit. You and him have toddler-tier "humor".
>>92875>the hate he getsNobody would even know that a chinese nct exists if it wasn't for his annoying stans on lc.
>>92876Always with the "honey", "sweetie",…
No. 92881
>>92875I guess. Neither of them are very good. The only wayv member who can really sing is xiaojun and even he isn't amazing… What ever happened to sm being the vocal company
>>92877It sounds like you don't pay attention to him outside what gets posted itt so I don't know how to respond
No. 92882
>>92878i dont think hes had any big controversies, he seems to coast under the radar for the most part. he honestly plays the stereotypical "kpop prince role" super well, and doesnt really ever have news about him
i also love how he apparently refuses to bleach his hair, so he's had the same dark brown/black hair all these years got7 has been active
>>92875kun definitely suffers live from nerves, both the covers he's posted he sounds fine, but he is so shaky and breathy whenever they sing live. the most stable one is xiaojun, which is to be expected considering he performed quite a bit predebut on stage as well. i also love how small he is lol, his feet barely touch the ground in that chair he's sitting in
>>92881this lucasfag is bordering on ratmy levels of oppa denial at this point kek
No. 92890
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>>92887xiaojun official height is 173 cm (5'8") but he's smaller than ten who's 170cm (5'7") in casual pictures lol
ive seen rumors on weibo etc. from people who have seen him irl say he's tiny, like around 165cm (5'5"). ive also seen people say hes only 160cm but that seems way too small
No. 92896
>>92892agreed, official covers usually are cleaned up on the backend
rose sounds tragic even with audio production on official tracks, so its not a surprise she was a whole mess during her live lol
No. 92897
>>92881>It sounds like you don't pay attention to himWhy should anybody? All you ever say is that we're haters, that you find him funny and sooo hot or you spam his pics in the other thread. Not once did you try to convice as that he's actually not so bad. Other people at least show some evidence, like videos showcasing idols (supposed) vocal talent ar dancing, you very obviously only like him for his face.
>>92895They're doing alright in korea, but the majority of their fanbase is thai/sea thanks to bambam, or chinese in jackson's case.
No. 92898
>>92867were they dragging v because of that thread that blew up recently? it's the funniest thing i've seen all week
https://twitter.com/qnlrmrrl1023/status/1219239203159982082lmao @ the doraemon clip
No. 92899
>>92881Same singing student anon, lol. Yeah, it's Xiaojun >>> Ten >= Kun, imo.
I think SM stopped focusing on vocals after EXO and RV. NCT were supposed to be performance heavy, so they don't need any Chen, Baekhyun or D.O to sing RnB ballads.
Wendy is their last true good vocalist. Taeil and Doyoung have their moments, too. Chen, I would like to hear more of. The rest of their vocal line is serviceable, imo.
No. 92900
>>92898nta but oh my god the doramon clip is the best thing ive seen all week, thank you for pointing it out
https://mobile.twitter.com/qnlrmrrl1023/status/1220137517564878848>>92895got7 does well because of jackson in china and bambam in SEA, otherwise they're just middle of the pack in korea
the "best of nct and got7" would be like…three people lol
No. 92904
>>92899I ment I would like to hear more from Chenle. I can't keep up with al the NCT kids, lmao.
>>92901 I've seen people saying it's BH's fault for not getting a vocal coach, but some people are beyond salvation, and V is one of them.
He should try rapping.
No. 92906
>>92895I was surprised they included yuta in that collab. Jaehyun would've been a much better choice but maybe he had something else going on
>>92904Same. He'a a solid singer and has a nice vocal color
No. 92907
>>90306>>92901I legit find his voice unbearable to listen to
I can't understand how anyone would praise him, his lack of technique is obvious too, his fans are a bunch of brainwashed idiots (basically all rates are tbh)
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According to army being able to sing is neither a talent nor a requirement for being an idol, nothing new.
No. 92917
>>92905lmfao people literally posted clips and specific incidents of him being unfunny and talked about how the dude literally cant sing or dance, and youre here "omg just look him up talented king"
no one's saying hes not hot, people are just saying the only thing really going for him is the fact that he's hot and thats perfectly fine, meanwhile youre sperging about how hes talented. you honestly sound like a delulu ratmy defending V on twitter kek
>>92910>>92912because all ratmys do is start shit about how bts is the most amazing most woke most talented kpop group to ever exist and all of the other oppas that arent in bts are shit
they always start fights unprompted but whenever any fandom says anything bad about poor underdog bts they immediately start sperging about how everyone is jealous kek
i want bts to get into some catastrophic chen-marriage esque scandal just to see how many ratmys would leave and how many would spend hours clearing searches while crying into their bt21 merch
also i love how the fucking idiot ratmy couldnt even spell suga's last name correctly kek
No. 92919
>>92910but Baekhyun can sing tho lol still sold like 700k albums
who cares about an idol producing music is the music sucks anyways
No. 92920
>>90306>>92917 you are more pressed about Lucas than anon is delusional, though. Let it go.
OT, I just listened to Kang Daniel for the first time, and I'm pretty underwhelmed. I don't get the hype.
No. 92924
>>92919isnt baekhyun the top selling solo singer in korea? im sure ratmys are just salty he's outselling/outcharting suga
i cant wait for the bts maknae line to try and release a solo, im sure the ratmies will eat it up but it'll be hot trash to the GP
No. 92927
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Has anyone read this BBC interview with an "ex trainee"? It honestly sounds a bit outlandish to me, because it's obvious some small nugu company but they had over 250 trainees?
Some parts seem a bit fishy and the girl seems like she's humblebragging half the time, but it does have some interesting tidbits (if real) about trainee life, weight, dating etc.
https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-51476159But imagine looking like this and saying the company wanted you as a visual kek
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>>92917Ever since I have read that Namjoon bought baby shoes for 600$ for no reason, I've been hoping he would pull a Chen. Not as milky as maknae trio but the drama would be amazing.
No. 92934
>>92932oh man imagine how milky it would be if an idol pulled a drake and revealed he had a grown ass child with a baby momma secretly for like 3-4 years
that would actually end careers and cause atomic meltdowns
No. 92936
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>>92934Actor Sung Joon did just that a while ago. He is pretty nugu though. But he deadass said he was married and had a two-year-old kid and no one knew. His fans dropped him like a hot potato.
He was rumoured to be dating Suzy for a while.
No. 92938
>>92935i absolutely hate it when fans think irresponsible behavior like that is cute…like its not cute this dude literally is such a manchild he cant keep track of his own belongings, i get he's a "rich king" but this is just blatant lack of awareness for his surroundings
that, and finding it cute when their bubu idol is stupid. so many idols brag about being shit at school and having bad grades like it's something to be proud of
No. 92963
>>92955that entire twitter account is gold, its just gif after gif of V being totally unprofessional/not giving a shit about being an idol anymore. the dude literally stops whatever stupid reality show gamr they're doing and starts scrolling on his phone kek
https://mobile.twitter.com/qnlrmrrl1023/status/1251180924055678976im sure ratmys are furiously trying to report this account and get it taken down because "poor baby
No. 92964
>>92958here is the originalSo much more simple and graceful
Even more shocking when you find out they were only a year old group when this came out
As compared to TxT that fans love to claim are
"only rookies"Like… lol.
Kpop has become retarded
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There’s a kpop-like group from Kazakhstan called MadMen. The members are ehh looking. The lead singer is basic neighbor boy cute at best but still manages to look like what Jimin was probably imagining himself to look like after PS. Surgery and cosmetic galore and the best your can do is look like a regular Kazakhstani guy. Cmon now.
Sorry for lq photo but I wanted them to have similar poses.
No. 92978
>>92968the gender double standard will never go away kek
female idols get shit on for looking at someone "rudely" or "not smiling at the airport" meanwhile male idols like V literally can barely do their job on stage, blatantly be disinterested in their activities and sing like dying animals and still have hordes of fangirls kissing their feet
can you imagine if a twice member or bp member was caught holding a juul or going on her phone in the middle of broadcast? she would have people bringing it up for the rest of her life
related: a fucking SIX minute compilation of V not being able to keep his fucking shoes and socks on like a normal functioning adult human..if a normal person took off his shoes and socks in public like this they would be branded as disgusting and weird by passerbys, but when V does it all the fangirls think its so uwucute
the members seem pretty fed up with him in general so its not a surprise he didnt show up for suga's mv filming
No. 92980
>>92972Kinda thought the sampling of it was genius
Sticks in your head and fuses hip hop, pop and classical
Wish SM still put out songs like this instead of the pile of garbage that is Nct's discography.
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>>92978Anyone remembers the Han Seo Hee scandal where she said she knew V from ununderage clubbing and ratmys attacked her and forced her to apologize, but she never denied it, lol.
I think the guy must be a total asshole irl. He is bffs with Park Bogum, who is member of an infamous homophobic cult, and gross sexist Park Seojoon.
But he recommended CMBYN, so ratmys think he lead the Stonewall riots, lol.
The moment he is caught dating, all his dirty laundry will be made public.
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>>92987the dude seems like an asshole on tv, im sure hes a huge douche off camera if he cant even keep his public image nice lol
as much as han seo hee is a fucking nutjob, i do greatly enjoy how she just airs everyone's dirty laundry with zero remorse
True or not, her dragging TOP for having a little lipstick sized peen while holding up a lipstick for reference always has me dying
No. 92993
>>90306Nope drinking age is 19
And HSH is using Korean age so that means he was really underage going clubbing.
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>>92963God, I'm laughing so hard, wtf is wrong with the guy? It's not even being lazy, he's just off. Like, is there something wrong with him, genuinely asking. Don't want to be an asshole is he's got a mental illness or smt. But damn, wth is that thread. LOLOL
No. 93000
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>>92999yup ratmys are mass reporting the account to get it taken down citing "targeted harrassment"
>this account has been spreading malicious comments about me and someone i know>me and people involved have been suffering adverselybig fucking kek, ratmys are something else
the account isnt even captioning anything, theyre literally just posting gifs and clips of V being a shit singer/not paying attention/dancing lazily
i love how ratmys cant even clear searches because this account doesn't use hashtags, but its known in the community because of that one pann article kek
No. 93009
>>92848>>I hope SM debuts a new girl group and boy group Is everyone forgetting that they're going to debut 2 groups this YEAR?
Holy shit SM is either doing a horrible job media playing
or theyll pull a Shinee and do no pre debut promotion and just release a hit for a debut song.
It will be interesting to see their girl group debuting around July hopefully they bring back talent to the table.
The boy group will be hated by Nctfags and I kind of anticipate seeing their panic over some younger guys taking the place of their hag faves lol
5 years running and Nct is the biggest mistake of Sm's history.
No. 93011
>>93009isnt the rumor the new bg is going to be an nct unit lol
theyre probably just going to throw the older/korean dreamies into a unit and slap in two or three trainees and call it a day
sm is obsessed with making nct work, i wouldnt be at all surprised if this "new bg" is just another nct unit
No. 93015
>>93011All investment reports say they're separate from Nct
Idk why Nctzens wanna delude themselves into thinking it has something to do with Nct Dream as if SM just didnt announce that they're not adding any more members to Nct dream and that they're rebranding.
Sm cares more about dissapointing Investors than holding their Ego.
Check
"@Im_Jammed" on Twitter
They've said multiple times it has nothing to do with the Nct project
Damn Nctzens are desperate
Makes me thirsty to see the outcome even more lol
No. 93016
>>93014here's the article, it's not even that bad, it's just showing some of the clips from the twitter account and netizens are obviously cracking a couple jokes at how absolutely trash he is at singing
https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2020/05/enter-talk-wow-kim-taehyung-really-cant.html?m=1i believe the original article actually got removed from pann because angry ratmies kek
No. 93018
>>92845I hope the furry option wins because NCT 127 is ugly af anyways. Generally baseball uniforms are hot;
Golden Child's debut was in baseball uniforms but their debut song is absolute garbage (can't believe they're Infinite's juniors tbh). If you're curious, just watch it on mute.
>>92849I know anons in the past have speculated about Jihyo being on literal drugs but I have to say that her enthusiasm on stage is truly impressive, especially as an idol for 5(?) years. Most idols start looking over it at most their first year. Her taste in men may be questionable but she comes off pretty professional to me, despite having to sing children's songs.
>>92893The fact that both Jinyoung and Taecyeon were formed under JYP makes me wonder if the JYP guidelines for 'character' are actually successful. Are there even any really bad fuck ups from JYP idols except for Nickhun's drunk driving incident?
>>92927The second she said that she was the visual of the group I immediately regarded everything as bullshit.
> Don't get me wrong, I love eating, but I'm lucky to have a high metabolism and don't gain weight easily.She sounds absolutely insufferable.
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>>93015i went onto the twitter account you linked and they literally said the 2020 new bg is likely a nct unit?
im a casual nct fan and i couldnt care less if they make new units/music/shuffle members around, i was just repeating the rumors that i saw floating around
SM clearly is trying to force the NCT concept to work when its obviously not lol but the new BG unfortunately is probably a NCT unit
No. 93022
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>>93020more tweets from the account the other anon linked
again this is all hearsay so we won't know until SM actually releases a statement, and I would honestly prefer a BG completely separate from NCT because the internal nct fan fighting is on another level and so obnoxious
No. 93026
>>93020Lol I'm the anon you replied to and wtf
Idk why investors keep flip flopping this is super weird
Because summer 2019 investors said "separate" from Nct and now it has something to do with Nct
Also those member things are just rumors at this point but I'm truly wondering what's going on in Sm
This year is the best rookie year to debut
Woollim, Cube, Yg will all debut new boy groups
What's stopping dumbass SM
Legit no muggle and casual Korean listeners (GP) is checking for Nct.
No. 93028
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>>93026i wouldnt be surprised if the 2020 lineups are true–renjun and chenle literally just opened weibo accounts and followed all the wayv members today, not to mention jeno/jisung/jaemin have been furiously doing vlives with just the three of them
it seems like SM is gearing up/testing the waters for their announcement for new units + the chenle/renjun wayv dungeon
attached allkpop link but cropped out the fangirl meltdown
this is not going to be received well by dream stans if true kek, but they'll get over it once sm shoves 3 pretty new pedobait trainees in their face
No. 93029
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>>93026Same fagging because I forgot to put this image in.
Full report said something about replacing Nct and Exo
So what's with the sudden "extension of the Nct brand"
I'm fucking puking.
No. 93036
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>>93029i honestly wonder if its because nct did decent with kick it/ridin so it gave sm the steam they needed to keep kicking the old "nct brand" can down the road
if the report is correct, 6 new members + 3 dream korean members as the new bg couldve just been "original bg of 6", throw jeno/jaemin/jisung in for some popularity points since they did well
>>93033this is just a direct translation of a post thats been trending on pann for the past three days or so, no one really knows if its accurate or not and its likely just damage control
regardless the itaewon f4 did go out, i honestly hope this "clearing the name" is all false and dispatch gets pissed off and releases pictures kek
besides, the companies already confirmed the f4 went out and didnt adhere to social distancing rules, that entire article is just nitpicking at small facts
pic unrelated, i just love jisung lording over the rest of the nctfags like the handcuff king he is
No. 93037
>>93036Looking P*do esque tbh.
I once stumbled upon a Saesang selling
T*ey0ng p³do info
Do what u want with that info.
No. 93040
>>93039Dude lol code names
I cant just accuse someone of pedophilia with their name attached it shows up on Google searches and some celebs have Google alerts I'm not tryna get into that.
No. 93041
>>92831This is good shit tho
Ia that sometimes he overdances but his facial expressions are killer imo. The one who makes me cringe when trying to be sexy is his friend Jimin. That fairy bitch keeps popping his long ass tongue so gross. Kai on the other hand has a Tyra Banks approved smyze
>>9286could u proclaimed chinese/korean speakers itt try harder to provide us some milk? I'm 100% sure there's good shit on Weibo cause my friend met these Chinese girls in Canada and they knew all SuperM schedule just by reading some weibo acc
>>92862Truly what's most impressive about Lucas is that he can speak a total of 0 languages fluently. There was this thread on r/unpopularkpopopinions in which someone claimed they were briefly colleagues with Lucas in some fancy private school and the person said he struggled with both cantonese and mandarim lmfao
He truly is the dumb as a rock jock type it's amazing
No. 93047
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>>93041i speak chinese and korean, but the problem is i have no idea where to begin to find half of this weird sasaeng stuff, the only time i see it is if a screenshot somehow escapes private wechat/weibo/kktalks and floats to twitter
ive heard theres massive sasaeng circles and chats in korea and china, and usually people get access through large fanclubs and bars, us muggle commoners and casual fans would never be able to get access
and yes, lucas's chinese is not good, so i attributed it to him being cantonese, except my cantonese friend said his cantonese is absolutely horrendous too
its honestly impressive how this dude cannot communicate fluently in any language despite living in hong kong for most of his life
he is truly the epitome of dumb gross jock, dude cant even keep his fingers out of his nose half the time on camera
also if we talk more about lucas we're gonna summon that lucasfag again kek
No. 93051
>>92967dude is even uglier than jimin and looks nothing like him
>>93010i feel like V should just leave. he's obviously unhappy, and not even trying to hide it any more. imagine facing down a further 5/6 years or however much time he has left on his contract.
oof, i feel bad for the guy even though he acts like a dickhead with the not bothering to do his job on stage and whatnot
>>93040what the fuck
No. 93056
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What is going on with his face lmao. Noticed hes been getting fillers since late last year
No. 93057
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>>93048 lol, come through SBS!
>>93037 yikes, not sure if i wanna know…at this point I wouldn't be surprised if Taeyong was involved with the Yakuza, that guy is bad news.
Unrelated picture, just wanted to show how they bleached the fuck out of the dreamies in the last years. This is from a clip I saw on twitter. It's from 2017.
No. 93058
>>93052i have the korean skills of an elementary school student because korean school and chinese school were both on sunday and my mom decided chinese was more important kek
but here's my take:
decently fluent, slight accent at times but can write "native" on linkedin: johnny, renjun, mark
"foreigner" fluent–can definitely tell when they talk without having to listen closely, but overall not grating: ten, kun, chenle
"what the fuck are you doing in korean class" fluent–lucas, winwin, rest of wayv
did i miss any foreign members? i can't really rank the rest of wayv considering ive seen xiaojun and yangyang speak one sentence each and they were both terrible
No. 93060
>>93047You sound like a way bigger sperg than I do honestly
>>93057Why in gods name would Twinkyong have ties to the Japanese mafia
No. 93061
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>>93060hyperbole, anon.
>>93059This is from a video they uploaded recently. They look much whiter now.
No. 93062
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>>93045Kek sorry anon the fancy private school part is on me
Pic related: the account witness
https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularkpopopinions/comments/fizjk2/lucas_annoys_me_a_little/fkl6v31^itt some cantonese/mandarim speakers comment on his (lack of) skills
>>93055Im sure you speak just fine anon pls dont equate yourself to him
No. 93063
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>>93061i would say its just lighting and makeup/bb cream, haechan is still pretty dark in airport candids
but who knows, they might have done some whitening/light bleaching treatments right before ridin promotions since this picture is from early february, but i think its probably just lighting
No. 93066
File: 1590636864829.jpg (658.59 KB, 1080x1827, 20200528_003644.jpg)
>>93062Samefag just adding some more screenshots
No. 93068
>>93064suga looks like an adult trying to act surprised when a kid is playing peekaboo lol
this is so fake, but i love how V is so over it he didnt even want to bother pretending to be a part of the "family"
honestly he makes so much money, im sure he could pay the contract cancellation fee/court fees and still have a pretty large sum of money left over
i would love it if he terminated his contract early, that would actually make me respect him more because it shows he actually doesnt give a fuck
No. 93071
>>93069whoops i forgot yuta just like sm does kek
yuta is definitely solidly in the "almost native" bucket, he's definitely the best "foreigner" speaker if you take out mark and johnny and even renjun, because all three of them grew up speaking and interacting in korean.
for a foreigner who had to learn korean from scratch he is definitely the best by a long shot.
No. 93073
>>93047I love gossip so much I'd probably pay for this type of membership kek
For kkt there are some password protected groups that could be milky, I know even Taehyung has joined one of them once. Some of this passcode protected groups leaves hints on how to crack the code tho, the description will say something like password is the date XX posted on fancafe for the 1st time
No. 93076
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>>93062This one sums up my thoughts. He does have a really heavy accent in Canto.
No. 93077
>>93073from what ive heard there's saesang account kktalks where the real milk is, and fanclub "rumor" kktalks where fanclub members talk about the member and occasionally rumors will float through
ive heard the fanclub kktalk rooms are pretty easy to get access to, usually talking/getting chummy with a seasoned fan or fansite moderator/owner will get you access, and like the previous anon said some fansites will leave passcode hint crumbs
ive heard actual sasaeng kktalks are basically unavailable to "muggles" and normal fans as everyone within the sasaeng kktalk is basically a sasaeng
the same goes for the weibo and chinese variant (wechat invite only rooms). ive also heard for some reason chinese sasaengs/fanclubs have better milk/tea but i cant figure out why
i do know some of the biggest sasaengs/fansites are actual native chinese women with tons of money and nothing else to do kek
No. 93080
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LOL. But seriously, the Lucas talk is getting boring and spergy, anons. We get it, he is a dumb jock. Next.
No. 93085
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>>93080I'm right but. I agree
No. 93091
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i went digging into chinese weibo etc. and found a whole list of nct sasaengs
https://www.zhihu.com/question/267402560this is a bit outdated, but the list is super long and these women are fucking scary, they dont just stalk the nct guys in korea, they'll buy tickets and fly to wherever the crew is filming for mvs and reality shows as well as concerts
apologize for the chinese picture, but they have schedules down to when these guys are going to host vlives, and all the airplane emojis are flights with departing and arriving airports (i assume they would know actual flight info too)
the entire page is worth a flip through, its mainly exposing sasaeng fans and quite a few pictures are of these sasaeng instagrams with pictures of nct members in the background.
im assuming if this info can just be found through google, these fans have a ton of dirt behind the scenes as well
makes me think how bad the bts guys probably have it, and how much shit these fans probably have on them and what they would release if they got pissed off
No. 93098
>>93091Thanks anon. That was pretty fascinating.
Aside from 201effect_dy, are the rest of the sasaengs Korean or Chinese?
No. 93103
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>>93098im not sure, the article doesnt say for sure but i believe chocolate970 (jaehyun) is japanese. i believe candyland is chinese. i have no idea about the rest of them, i just see whatever floats through twitter and occasionally weibo if i dig.
i know the biggest mark sasaeng who apparently has since moved on to yangyang is chinese (markinmyheart/flymetothemoon) as there was a huge stink about her last year on weibo because she managed to bribe her way into a seat right next to yangyang
apparently according to some weibo accounts kun told her off/alerted staff and she tried to spread rumors that he was hitting on her or harassing her behind the scenes but fans didn't believe her because she's a very well known crazy
off the top of my head, one of bts's biggest sasaeng fans is also a chinese chaebol/fuerdai, and she also follows them across the world on flights to get close to them. the chinese rich kid money is on a different level.
No. 93106
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>>93103samefag, same sasaeng who apparently was following mark since he was a trainee
this picture was probably taken when he was maybe 14-15 during his entry ceremony to sopa, the kid looks terrified
i remember this being a huge thing on weibo when it all came out she was a stalker/sasaeng as she was a pretty big fansite since mark was underage and also a trainee at the time and she's in her mid to late twenties if the rumors are correct
either way sasaengs are fucking scary but the milk that sometimes leaks out of their chats is amazing, but companies honestly need to at least keep these fans away from underage/trainee kids, i cant imagine being followed on my way home from school by a fat hag every day
No. 93111
>>93034I also miss SM's golden days but then again let's not worry anon, bc after Super Junior came Shinee and then Exo.
>>93084I wonder if she's an ex fan?
No. 93115
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I didn't know BH made J-hope wear a mask for their debut concept because they found him ugly. That'd have broken me mentally…
No. 93124
>>93030I remember ages and ages ago, Kim Hyunjoong was on a variety show and was asked what women could do to make sure they weren't the
victims of violence. He said "Rather than teach women how to avoid it, shouldn't we teach men not to commit it?"
I remember being so impressed at the time.
Couple of years later it's revealed he beat his girlfriend so badly she had to be admitted to hospital for internal bleeding.
Just goes to show you can't trust a word idols say.
No. 93135
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>>93133they covered rm’s face too. i searched for his debut pics and he wore sunglasses in the mv, photoshoots, on stage, even at a fansign lmao
No. 93143
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imagine this under you
No. 93148
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imagine this on top of you
No. 93150
>>93145It’s cause she is that butchered up looking, I t’s tragic. Even worse though, there’s people here that feel the need to actively call her pretty whenever she gets brought up lol. Like we get it it’s your ship, you are not like other girls, you are okay with your oppa dateing a fakeboi, good for you
On another note, does anyone have any nominations for next thread pic?
No. 93156
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>>93150I don’t ship anyone but I don’t think she’s revoltingly hideous. I just think she’s alright and so is jk. they match to me.
No. 93158
>>93138Really? I think he was cute. The bigger nose worked on him.
>>93143She’s fine too. Not her best picture for sure but her skin is hella clear and ngl, that’s not a bad armpit at all. Could be my fetishes at work here. She definitely looks way better with long hair though.
At this point, I can’t tell if my standards are really low or what. I just don’t see the ugly flaws in most pics here.
No. 93163
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>>93156I don't think she's ugly either. No East Asian can pull off bleached blonde hair and eyebrows.
Picture unrelated, just saw it and found it funny.
No. 93164
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>>93155le vide.
>>93161What are you talking about? That is a totally accurate representation of her.
No. 93167
>>93166I wonder who did that tattoo for her. Most tatoo artists, at least in the West, won't do face tattoos unless the person is extremely tatted up elsewhere on their body (we're talking full sleeves, back pieces, legs covered), because it's such a big commitment and there's a risk the customer will regret it and then come back and start complaining and making a huge fuss about how they shouldn't have been "allowed" to have it done.
She doesn't seem to have that many tattoos elsewhere on her body, definitely not as many as she'd need to have to get the OK for a face tattoo from most artists. I guess maybe she got a coworker to do it?
No. 93170
>>93156i'll never understand cows like her. it's obvious she's had a buttload of work done yet she typically styles herself in the most unflatteringly garish ways. it's like taking a step forward and two steps back. why even bother at this point?
>>93135i'm glad you found this photo anon. it's priceless. if the darkness and grandpa shades weren't enough, they still have him facing down and away from the camera. kek
>>93138there are much bigger fish to fry.. i was thinking more along the lines of jimin/rm, with the former commonly getting compared to prince eric by twitter stans. jfc
No. 93177
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>>92963the twitter account also pointed out that he’s friends with a dude who nearly exclusively photographs naked/semi naked women. his fans think he’s some deep artistic uwu photographer when he probably just takes photos of womens’ asses or some shit. pic is from the twitter account before anyone says i liked the photo lmao. excuse the weird cropping
caption says: “New York for like a day or two! Me & my boy V”
No. 93179
>>93170maybe she'll get it removed in the future. i know this topic has been beaten to death already but his hand tattoos seriously look bad and won't age well in 10 years.
if people still care about him then it won't be a good look to get tattoos related to your fans lasered off. maybe he can make military enlistment an excuse or something
No. 93187
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Yoochun is completely gone…
No. 93190
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This?
No. 93199
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>>93197Peaked at 17. Poor dude, he's actually my fav in BTS.
No. 93206
>>93187imo he was never good looking
>>93202dunno. every now and then i have lunch with my friends at east asian restaurants. whenever i do, i see guys like him around those parts all the time.
>>93177idk why but this shot reminds me of bender and fry from futurama
No. 93208
>>93205My prediction is that V will go into acting, though going off Hwarang he's not actually very good at it so he won't be received that well.
Jimin and Jungkook will go solo, but Jungkook won't last long since he can't seem to stop getting into scandals. I agree with the other anon who said they think Jimin will become Moon Heejun 2.0. He'll be that sad has-been on variety shows who eventually knocks up some 19 year old rookie.
RM and Suga will go into producing. I see RM probably being more successful.
Jin will disappear.
J-Hope is the one I struggle to predict too. Maybe producing too, I guess. Or choreography. Something behind the scenes.
No. 93211
>>93173There are definintely filters on vlive. SVT had theirs turned off for a few seconds once.
It was in 1 of these 2 vids:
https://www.ok.ru/video/449428392515https://www.ok.ru/video/449428458051 No. 93218
>>93205I don't see him as a solo artist as well, but more behind the scenes stuff. Producer, Choreographer or something like that. For som time, if I remember correctly, people said he can lead BH after Bang PD and if he has some interest in economy, why not?
I think Jin could survice if he plays his cards well in variety. Nothing huge, but a solid small solo career.
Tbh I can imagine everyone succeed to some extent, unless the maknae line for some reason.
No. 93221
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>>93205he’s only handsome when he’s done up. his side profile is actually tragic.
No. 93225
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>>93221he has a flat from never being held as a baby. no joke. that’s what happens if you have a baby laying down all day. They never put him in a helmet to correct it.
No. 93227
>>93129Short af, feels like half of the song is missing, Jennie's voice is horribly overproduced, doesn't sound like her at all and I genuinely thought she was Rosé at first, then I couldn't hear the difference between her and Lisa. Jisoo stood out because she sounded different from the others at least.
Also how f boring is this beat??? It has been sampled a million times and is super basic, even in the k-pop scene it reminds me of ITZY's Ting Ting Ting
This is absolute crumbs, blinks should get some self awareness and stop overhyping the absolute minimum, this track was obviously rushed and it happened only because they're both under Interscope and Gaga wanted some k-poppies support because everyone knows they're crazy with the streams
No. 93245
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>>93227the audio on youtube already hit 1 million likes, which just proves your point that they wanted k-pop support. even ariana and gaga’s collab didn’t hit that many likes so quick. it’s honestly insane how k-pop stans stream mediocre music like their lives depend on it.
No. 93252
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>>93237No, his head just is that flat.
No. 95011
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Apparently some white koreaboos are going around touching random korean guys on streets. Yikes. Damn karens at it again thinking just because they are white, korean guys will fuck them.
No. 95297
>>93225Lmao this post made me try to feel up my skull haha (I have a square head)
Honestly Jimin is ageing a bit like Baekhyun. Baekhyun looks great with makeup, looks like he's in his early twenties. But without makeup he looks a bit empty and dull
That's the thing with idols visuals. Malnourished and exfoliating their faces so much, treatments after treatment. Yes, that makes their skin ready for makeup, but without it, their skin has no colour and texture…And their features don't stand out anymore cause of even the tiniest amount of filler.
I'm light skinned but I stopped trying to achieving this "perfect" skin. It looks good to have no bumps or spots when you are young, but once you're in your in your 30s and your skin is delicate as fck, tans in 2 milliseconds, and no red cheeks…You'll regret it