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No. 10957
>>10868i've seen the typical drugs and hacker forums and cp. i laughed when i found a textbook torrenting site once.
i get the feeling that now that a lot of news channels and tv shows like CSI have sensationalized the "deep web" that there are a ton of 15 year olds who download the tor browser bundle and jump in expecting darque and edgeee shit as soon as they're online and get super frustrated
No. 10980
>>10955is snuff cp really not common there? i have a friend who was traumatized for weeks because she found dafu love by mistake (she didn't even know what dafu love was but i recognized it by the description). she didn't look like she was lying. after that she kept on being a 3edgy5me piece of shit tho.
i'm not interested in going into the deep web because i barely know how to proxy, i'm too dumb with computers and would definitely fuck up and get a virus.
No. 10987
>>10980Snuff films don't exist, nevermind CP snuff.
Technically the sort of stuff at theync.com is snuff (beheadings, suicides, etc) but usually when people talk of snuff movies it has sexual implications.
I've never heard of "dafu love" plus you're probably more likely to accidentally find CP on /b/ than on Tor.
No. 10988
>>10984You're right, sorry, i'm a native spanish speaker so i didn't even notice. it's one of those videos of children being tortured and killed, pretty much like daisy's destruction. i guess it must be just a creepypasta then, but she watched a very similar video and i swear she didn't look like she was lying, she was legit scared.
i found this thought, he's supposed to be the creator of both videos.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2994703/Australian-businessman-accused-masterminding-paedophile-ring-opens-60-Minutes-claim-s-remorseful-horrific-crimes.htmlhttp://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/16/australian-man-peter-scully-pleads-not-guilty-to-child-in-philippines No. 10990
>>10989They would probably just be considered BDSM. I really doubt anyone is actually getting killed.
You would never randomly stumble on the stuff in
>>10988 on Tor. Tor is so slow you can't even stream video over it.
No. 10994
>>10871it's not that bad! just browsing shouldn't be a problem if you don't do anything stupid to compromise your security honestly, don't turn on scripts, etc.
in general i feel that you can sometimes find much creepier/more disturbing stuff out in the open on the clearnet. on top there's still a lot of stuff you definitely wouldnt see outside of it, like those fake hitman sites, pedo support boards, scream bitch… but often digging around online for a little too long i stumble onto the weirdest shit, especially on older free hosting sites (angelfire etc) and in the comments of blogspot blogs
No. 10996
>>10871I was the same way when I heard of it. I never bothered trying to venture the deep web because I was afraid I'd stumble upon something by accident and have my door kicked down.
I do remember finding some image about how dispose of a body using yogurt and could never find it again after that. Not that I'm finding a way to dispose of a body of course, I found it pretty interesting and wanted to read it again.
No. 10997
>>10868To anyone interested in "diving", you can turn off images (and I think videos?). Let's just say you should.
My personal belief is the deep web is just a honeypot set up by officials to monitor the CP, illegal activities and so on. No matter how private they say it is, it was developed by the government so I have a sneaking suspicion they know how to find people. Never used it because of this… not that I care about anything there. The only stuff I've ever found "tame" was some weird gay faerie cult (I wish I was joking). Maybe someone has a link to it? It was kind of a strange thing to put it on the deep web of all places.
No. 11008
>>11007Channers claim that everything is a honeypot these days (while happily handing over their money to third world VPNs). Sure Tor was created by the DoD but so was the internet itself. Tor is open source so if it was a pure honeypot it would have been discovered by now but there could still exist various exploits which is true for anything.
As for the Anarchist's Cookbook, every teen in the 90s and early 00s had a copy of that. Although I don't know how accurate it was in regards to the 70s original because the versions I've seen have contained dumb shit like getting high from nutmeg or banana skins. You sometimes see such references in 90s/00s teen movies which shows you how widespread it was.
"Back in my day", the big IRC networks were full of CP fserves, as were all the new P2P protocols. Thus I don't have much problem sailing close to CP shores but if you're some social media newfag I can see why you might be scared.
I've found some funny things on the old big FTP servers hosted by IBM, Adobe, etc but probably the craziest shit is stuff I've been sent on Yahoo Messenger, MSN, etc. I'd tell the story of the craziest but I guarantee no-one would believe me.
No. 11027
>>10987she said she was randomly clicking on links and it just started downloading. (and i honestly thought that's how you browse the deep web, having no search engine you have to follow paths don't you? i don't really know).
isn't there enough evidence on daisy's destruction as to know it was definitely sexual, definitely cp, and definitely a murder? (they even found her corpse, it's right there in the news).
i don't think it's even that hard to find the video at this point, i just really don't want to.
with how easy it is to find cp and gore on chans i have no doubt snuff is real.
i don't think it's ok to post weird graphic stuff here, considering this ib openly lets underages in, but i regularly stumble upon horrible sexual stuff on chans, weirdest stuff to date would be a man stuffing a dead baby into his anus No. 11033
>>11027Tor is so slow that if you wanted to download a video it'd take like an hour. So your friend must have really wanted to see the video if she waited that long.
>>11016>>11020The basic gist is that some white guy sent me pictures showing his life as a castrated slave to a black couple. It was never said but I got the impression that he was told to message white people to try and get a reaction.
Yahoo was full of roleplayers (just like everywhere else) but this guy had photos for everything. He said he owed the black man money and it did not seem to be consensual.
The whole encounter came off as very Josef Fritzl.
No. 11553
>>10980snuff cp is usually privately shared, there are documentaries on this (they are often short), one was done by BBC i believe. they busted a huge snuff CP ring.
it is all privately shared, and revolve around going to things called "red rooms" - where you pay to actually be on the "set"
No. 11555
>>10987they do exist… recently a bunch of dudes were busted in the phillipines for making child snuff porn… lol. it's just not publicly shared, you probably have to be a child sex tourist and in with the locals, and offer hundreds of dollars in order to make it.
the only reason he was caught was because he didn't deliver the right material to one guy, who ratted him out
No. 11568
>>11551
>- a website about a network of underground tunnels. with maps and descriptions and picturesPublic knowledge.
>- a website to 'pay' for a hitman, it was like 20,000 or something like that but the payment had to be in bitcoins Before DreadPirateRoberts was busted nobody took the hitmen sites seriously. Because DPR was considered a libertarian hero the US government wanted to ruin his reputation and did so by releasing transcripts where he paid DEA agents to kill old business partners. The media then made a big story about "hitmen on the deepweb" but there is still no evidence that the hitmen sites are legit.
>-a drug selling website Silk Road was legit but I wouldn't trust any of the new versions.
>-a website about men who mutilate their own penis/genitals. kinda like a forumI can't remember it's name but I've seen it because it's always in the Hidden Wiki. There's sites like this on the clearnet not to mention how extreme BMEzine used to be back in the day.
>Ive never seen snuff or cp although i always wondered where it was. it must be very hidden. nver seen hard candy or anything like thatCP and JB used to be listed on the same page of the Hidden Wiki as everything else. If you never saw them it's because the first time you used Tor was less than ~2 years ago.
>>11555Are you talking about the arrest of Peter Gerard Scully? If so, pretty much nothing that you wrote is accurate.
The only reference to a possible real snuff film (as in Videodrome style erotic snuff made to be sold) I can find is this:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/475207/Police-did-nothing-to-track-down-victim-of-child-porn-snuff-film But if you look more into that story it seems that the reason none of the info was passed on is because the police aren't convinced the video is real. It was probably some fetish video off Clips4Sale or whatever.
No. 11592
>>11552The human experiments site is fake. Made by some college students to fuck with people.
As for the genital mutation, you can find that on the surface web. It's as easy to find as those necrophilia/gore sites. Anyone who genuinely thinks the hitmen sites are real, are in for some trouble. Any hitman site that's easy to come across is easily a ploy by the police or some man with bad intentions.
It's just not worthwhile to download Tor and explore these shitty sites. There's absolutely nothing of value. All of the real good stuff is privately shared and you will never find.
No. 11600
>>11595Didn't you read the second line of the quote you posted?
When people talk of snuff films they usually have a more specific meaning that stems from the religious right's fear of video nasties, Troma films, etc which was caused by the scary new technology called VHS. Now there's a new scary technology called Tor and it's the same old fear stories.
No. 11653
>>11572Original anon: weed, LSD, xanax, valium type shit etc.
Gimme even vague recs and I'll work it out for myself. Cheers.
No. 11760
>>11603>>11653tesselated and BlueViking are good for LSD
dunno about anything else. try reddit.com/r/darknetmarkets and search for what you want.
No. 11780
i've seen one horrible video. you guys have probably seen it or at least heard of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luka_Magnottai saw the video before it was taken down and before they found it. they found the torso only a few blocks from my house, so i was freaked out. he basically kills, rapes, eats, etc his boyfriend. i feel nauseous thinking about it.
also ended up on a vore bbc once. people were trying to hook up with strangers craigslist style to either kill them or be killed
No. 11844
>>11778SiberianMouse is well known. I think she was 16-17 in a lot of pics but actually setup a proper proper porn site when she turned 18 so most content of hers is actually legal.
In terms of pedo support groups, they may seem ridiculous now but remember they were semi-mainstream in the 60s/70s and had the support of some left wing groups.
>>11780That video is still on motherless somewhere. I didn't think it was that bad. The guy getting killed is laying on a bed and the camera is on a coffee table or something so the angle is horrible and Luka is always standing in the way. I don't remember what the sound is like.
No. 11864
>>11860I dunno, I guess the video is so low quality it doesn't bother me much. The beheading videos from the Iraq war and the crazy high quality Isis stuff are worse to me.
I wonder how long it will be before some serial killer films everything in super high res and uploads or even streams it to the internet before he's caught. I feel like we're already overdue for something like this.
No. 11874
>>11568you're an idiot. im not arguing with you whether or not snuff films exist. they do. there was that one canadian kid that made a video of him killing/fucking/playing with a chinese man. google that, find where you share it, and then you'll see people talking about other snuff films.
its really not that unbelievable, considering back in the day you could watch east asian children getting raped on webcam..
No. 11881
Both
>>11568 and
>>11864 are me. I've seen the video you are talking about.
If you want to use the most broad definition of a snuff film possible then sure there's loads of them out there. Liveleak, theync, etc upload new ones practically every week. Even stuff from WWII and Vietnam probably qualifies.
But if you are going to stir up a panic about made for order CP snuff on Tor then you are banging up against the definition of snuff used in past moral panics and are giving credence to conspiracy theorists and crazy Christian housewives. You can't make up details about arrests in the Philippines or claim "its really not that unbelievable" without providing proof. If anything your anecdote about webcam shows just shows that it's probably more profitable to keep victims alive.
Do you not see the canyon of difference between someone legally crazy like Luka Magnotta uploading a video of himself vs a professional snuff studio somewhere in Asia?
ITT:
>OP asks for stories about the dark net>I and at least one other anon who have been round the block say: "not much out there except CP">nobody believes us and everyone would still rather believe their ghost stories No. 11882
>>11864>I wonder how long it will be before some serial killer films everything>we're already overdue for something like thisFuck, I never thought about that, we really are.
I guess I got used to shitty flip phone quality.
No. 11914
>>11844i heard about her on /x/
she was 14 BTW
she also did alot of porn with her younger biological sister too apparently
she was also a child model which probably is how she got a porn gig so young
shits fucked up
this is why i think child modelling should be illegal. too many pedophile rings in them with mentally unstable mothers who will do anything to make sure her baby is a star
there is a face to face (only faces, don't worry) comparisons of the porn girl and the model
https://imgur.com/HjopHk3?tagsand she (As her model persona thing) deleted almost everything when people realized it was the same girl
i really feel bad for the girls that are so caught up with abusive parents and such an objectifying pagent run by creeps who prey off children
No. 11915
>>11881i think snuff means sexual videos that involve torturing and killing people.
i live in venezuela and a few years ago there was a scandal because some people raped, tortured and killed a 5 year old kid. They didn't film it, but the autopsy confirmed sexual abuse and torture, even old torture scars. he was carried to a hospital before dying (mother said he fell off a motorcycle, yeah right) and the details are pretty horrible. there's pictures too, but i had enough seeing them once, they're not difficult to find anyway.
this is the most important newspaper in venezuela, so it's a reliable source:
http://www.eluniversal.com/caracas/sucesos/111206/imputaran-a-cuatro-mujeres-y-un-hombre-por-nino-muerto-en-guanareif this happens in a normal third world country, i have no doubt that it happens in a place like phillippines where child prostitution and traffic are a thing.
you say people are naive for believing in creepypastas but i think it's just as naive to assume everything is just a creepypasta.
No. 11929
>>11915Unfortunately stories like the one you linked to aren't unusual even in the first world but the existence of murderers does not prove the existence of snuff films. Again, there is a world of difference between someone abusing a person under their care vs snatching multiple people off the street and sharing videos of their murders with the world.
Even some serial killers in the 90s taped their murders and parts of the recordings have shown up in documentaries over the years. However they are not considered snuff films because they were not made to be distributed. Luka Magnotta's film is probably the only known film that was made to be distributed but then you can argue about whether snuff films require a commercial aspect (distributing VHSs implied an evil businessman running a commercial enterprise but that's not true with file sharing on the internet).
It's not naive to ask for evidence that something exists. Sure, maybe someone has made a genuine snuff video and sold it to their two best friends but that's an exception that proves the rule.
>>11914The child modelling is probably what I was thinking of in regards to legal content.
I don't understand why the US hasn't banned child modelling as it seems like most of it actually comes out of the US and Russia.
No. 11973
>>11929well if it wasn't for stuff like love146 i would also say that child sex trafficking is just a creepypasta and that there's no way there is a big business of selling and buying little girls to be your slaves, that all that is just a ghost story made up by conspiracy theorists and crazy christian housewives.
buying a film must be cheaper and safer than buying a person, easier to hide in your house too. for the seller as well, selling and distributing ilegal films must be a lot more difficult to track than selling and distributing little girls, as they murder the evidence in the first place, not to mention a single film can be sold many times to different people. i don't get why is it so difficult to imagine a bunch of fucked up people in a basement wanting to make money out of the kids they couldn't sell, like, it's very likely to happen, i don't see how that compares to conspiracy theories. k, they don't show up on the deep web we get it, but neither does child sex trafficking, does it?
my english sucks dick, i'm sorry, also i'm assuming you're the same anon as >>11881, sorry if you're not No. 11975
>>11973
>i don't get why is it so difficult to imagine a bunch of fucked up people in a basement wanting to make money out of the kids they couldn't sellIt's easy to imagine but it doesn't make it real.
>k, they don't show up on the deep web we get it, but neither does child sex trafficking, does it?The UN, EU, NGOs, etc publish details of girls they have rescued, people they've sent to jail, etc. Plus every now and then it makes the news. That is hard proof that child sex trafficking exists.
Do you have similar proof that a snuff industry exists? Every news article I've seen about snuff films has turned out to just be media hype over Cannibal Holocaust or similar films.
>it's very likely to happen, i don't see how that compares to conspiracy theoriesThat
is the conspiracy theory. For 40 years people have been saying "it's possible so it must exist" and yet so far nothing has turned up. If you ask them why nothing has turned up they say it's being covered up by the Bilderberg's demon worshipping sacrifice club or something else ridiculous.
No. 11994
>>11592Didn't that guy from the Silk Road try to hire a hitman to kill someone? I don't think the existence of hitmen in the deep web is THAT doubtful, but most likely them announcing their services on a forum isn't very plausible, the more believable way is to get in touch with someone via careful connections.
>>11975I personally don't think the snuff "industry" exists because raping or torturing someone is one thing but killing is another. It's hard, messy and the body is hard to get rid of, you need a solid alibi to single yourself out from the suspects but you'll still probably get caught sooner or later. But there's still a possibility of some gang in a country like Russia or some South Asian country producing them since there are a lot of kids without parents or any connections that just don't exist after being killed.
But the illegal porn content in Tor isn't like your basic porn site where you pay and get your video. To my understanding, they trade the movies instead of selling them. It's way safer than just selling the video to any shmuck for money since it's a sign that you're actually in the business for real. So reaching this content isn't simply logging into Tor and going to hidden wiki.
No. 12011
>>11994it's not messy if you choke them to death
that's what peter scully was doing
(watch the documentary on him, he made child snuff but he was finally caught this month)
and it's easier to get away with it in a 3rd world country
No. 12023
>>12011I literally just watched the 60 Minutes episode you mentioned and even in that the police aren't sure that a video of the murder exists.
When asked directly the Filipino agent says they haven't seen a video but "a leading partner of the accused" claims to have seen one.
The primary partner of the accused is Carme Ann Alvarez who in news articles is reported to have said that the murder was accidental. So maybe the murder was filmed but the video was never sold because it's not what the customers wanted.
Until the police claim that a video was made and distributed then there is no proof that Scully made a snuff film.
It seems like Peter Scully is being charged separately for creating "videos of rape/abuse" and of "murder". A lot of people are conflating the two charges to mean that Scully produced "videos of murder".
Does anyone know if it's possible to obtain the details of the charges against Scully? Does the Philippines DOJ publish that sort of stuff?
No. 12214
>>12197There are many hitmen who work in organised crime and will kill people on the order of crime bosses.
That's not the same as taking orders from the general public over the internet. How would a hitman on Tor even know they're not being set up?
No. 12287
>>11914> this is why i think child modelling should be illegal. too many pedophile rings in them with mentally unstable mothers who will do anything to make sure her baby is a startotally agree with you on that one.
i remember a thread on either /r/iama or /r/casualiama from a former child model. her stepdad used to produce cp of her and of her sister.
the way she described how the "normal" modeling gigs slowly spiraled out of control made my skin crawl. i'll try to dig it up again, if anyone's interested.
No. 12348
>>12214One of my distant family members was a hitman who sold drugs on tor. There was this guy who wanted to get his uncle killed to inherit his money (he was a multimillionaire) and he got my family friend to do it, I'm pretty sure he talked to him through Tor and was a customer of his.
This hit obviously got caught, 2 years after the uncle was dead when someone tattled on my family member. That's how all the tor stuff came out (re: the drugs) but they lived across the street from us and there was a SWAT team and helicopters the night they came for the guy.
He's like my second-cousin twice removed or some shit, I would get the article out but it wasn't a popular story AT ALL and the last name is very unique and his mom googles for him like every single day. He went to prison for 25 yrs.
No. 12353
>>12348That's really interesting. Regardless of that one anecdote though, the odds of finding a real hitman on Tor who isn't a cop or scammer is still extremely, astronomically low.
Do you know if your uncle knew the guy in some way, or was he a complete stranger who just happened to sell drugs to him, or what?
No. 12359
>>12348>>12353There's actually a similar (but no kill) story on Reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/onions/comments/25e85p/has_anyone_used_a_tor_hitman/Seems like there's a lot of dumb ass drug dealers on Tor.
No. 55430
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Look up 60 minutes Peter scully catching a monster. He created the dafu Love and daisys destruction videos. That shit was real. I don't understand why people don't just copy to a usb and send this kind of shit over some Starbucks with an old reformatted laptop or Internet cafe.
No. 55431
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On February 20, 2015, Scully was arrested in his rented house in Malaybalay City after investigators discovered the remains of a 10-year-old girl, Rosie, buried under an apartment he had rented. He allegedly strangled her to death according to police who were led to the apartment by Scully's partner, a 17-year-old Filipino girl, who was also a prior victim of his abuse, as she used to be a prostitute in the Philippines. This guy was in the dafu love video and daisys destruction. 60 mins has a whole interview with him.
No. 55460
>>10987Objection! Read into the Detroux affair. Just because something is so innately terrible that you don't want to believe it, it doesn't mean it's not true. That's how these networks get away with this shit; the general public would rather bury their heads in the sand than admit that evil like that exists.
It's a long article. Just ctrl+f 'snuff' if you don't want to read it all.
http://www.sott.net/article/244380-Beyond-the-Dutroux-Affair-The-reality-of-protected-child-abuse-and-snuff-networks-in-a-world-ruled-by-psychopathsMajor
trigger warning though! There is a tiny censored photo collage of some of the pictures they found.
No. 55463
>>55460
>Joël van der Reijden>Institute for the Study of Globalization and Covert PoliticsA known conspiracy theorist sure is a great source, right? If you look up Marc Dutroux from reliable sources there are no mentions of snuff films or pedophile networks.
Until someone actually gets caught and sent to jail for a snuff film and it's all reported in court documents (media reports don't count, they always claim ridiculous things) then the logical conclusion is that snuff films don't exist. Of course there could be secret networks covered up by the government but there could also be aliens covered up by the government. It's fun to spook ourselves with theories about what's possible but in the real world you have to draw a line.
No. 55506
>>55501Other than CP and drugs there is nothing there that isn't on the clear net. All the stories are people making shit up.
It reminds me of the internet in the 90s when there were rumours about FTPs hosting NASA secrets about aliens and stuff. The fact that you could easily find some stuff like the Anarchist's Cookbook was taken as "proof" that there must be even juicier documents out there. Shows like the X-Files really pumped up these beliefs as well.
Nobody believes that shit anymore but the rumours about what's on Tor is the same type of bullshit.
No. 55507
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Here's a sample of what The Hidden Wiki looks like. I can take more (legal) screenshots if anyone is curious
No. 55561
>>55460I'm incredulous at how some of the pictures on today site have been allowed to be published, specifically the stills from the apparently snuff video.
And this is why I don't believe in a benevolent god.
No. 55594
>>55460Unrelated, but
>Although a one hundred percent confirmed psychological disorder, MPD/DID remains quite controversial in the public's eye (for those who even heard about it). It's true that DID is a complex disorder and sometimes hard to wrap the mind around (pardon the unintentional pun). But this is largely the result of a lack of information, and if any of the politically correct arguments are stripped away, the real underlying reasons for the controversy become quite simple.
>First of all, DID is intrinsically linked to the most extreme sexual and psychological abuse against children. In 97 to 98 percent of the DID cases, victims talk about having been sexually abused since a young age (43). It's not uncommon for DID patients to give details about abuse that sound so bizarre, horrifying and huge that, no matter what the evidence, will take some time and repeating for the average person to accept as even a possibility. Protected child abuse and -torture networks involving well known individuals would be a primary example of that.
>The second reason is that these networks are protected by those involved, who apparently have the power to make sure that very little information on these networks appears in the public domain. Additionally, a rather small, but very influential group of "skeptics", organized around the US-based False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF), have been doing a counter-attack since the early 1990s when reports of ritual abuse became a little bit too widespread (44). This group has done everything in its power to convince the public and the psychology community that all DID is created by incompetent psychologists. Because of an incorrect way of asking questions, these psychologists would have inserted certain "false memories" in their patient's minds. Even though more than a dozen board members of the FMSF have been accused of child abuse themselves, have come out in favor of pedophilia, or have a past in mind control research for a whole range of intelligence agencies (45), virtually no mainstream media ever felt the need to consistently point that out. Holy shit. Now where are the anons who keep insisting DID is a fake mental disorder?
No. 55601
>>55594What a load of bullshit. "Anyone skeptical of DID's existence is probably a child abuser."
DID may or may not be real, but a large percentage of people claiming to have it don't really have it, or just wish they had it.
No. 55602
>>55561That film used to be all over P2P back in the day. It's super low quality and the guy often blocks the camera when something is going on which is typical of fake films.
But yeah, how is that CP above it allowed?
No. 55916
So are the fake identity sellers as big scams as the hitmen?
It looks like the same person made all those sites, lol.
>>11553Anybody know the BBC documentary referred to here?
I've only found one by Channel 4, and it concluded that snuff does not "really" exist.
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ehahaha
No. 88585
>>55916The various "GET A FAKE ID" sites are most likely scams. There's tons of standalone scam sites like that offering all sorts of stuff.
There are legit fake ID vendors on the drug markets though.
No. 88608
>>10956Agreed. And even the "fucked up stuff" that you can find isn't even illegal to have or view a lot of the time. There are plenty of gore websites out there with pictures of people having sex with corpses, CP, mexican cartels cutting off heads and real rape. All accessible via google.
The most messed up thing I ever saw was by accident. This was back when weirdtube (or fuckedup tube?) was a thing, and actually had fucked up videos. I looked for rape, out of curiosity, and amongst that famous ones of soldiers raping a woman, there was this grainy home made looking one with barely any views. I clicked on it and what looked like a very young child was there and a dude. I tried tracking the username and to find some way to report this or do anything…But the video was gone soon. Creepyo.
>>88583Ogres have many layers
No. 88611
>>11553>>55916The problem with snuff not existing is that porn for EVERY fetish exists, and people being killed turns some people on. Drawings may not be enough for them and they'll want the real thing.
I agree that it's EXTREMELY rare and probably borderline impossible to get, but it exists.
Only example of legit snuff off the top of my head is that homosexual russian killer dude, he hung young boys naked and videod it. Weirdly enough you can see the fucking videos on youtube, but they have very few views and I completely forgot the guy's name. I'll update this with the video if I ever remember his name again.
No. 88613
>>88611Ah, it was Anatoly Slivko. Found the video too.
So yeah, snuff does exist. I.e killing people and videoing it for the explicit purpose of sexual gratification.
No. 88617
>>88613The thing is, if you get into strict semantics,
>killing people and videoing it for the explicit purpose of sexual gratificationis actually not considered "snuff". The most fetishistic videos are almost always taped for personal use among individuals and their… friends. That it leaks onto even the daytime internet is another story (you can find more on certain Encyclopedia Dramatica articles, for example).
For it to be considered snuff, it would have to be created for the explicit purpose of being SOLD. Like the difference between sending a nude privately and getting a Playboy photoshoot, someone out there is getting paid.
Admittedly the confusion probably stems from the fact that the connotation behind the word pornography has been diluted.
No. 88623
>>88612I actually found a CP stash on Tumblr not too long ago. Some user had liked a bunch of actual child porn images of girls from the ages of around 8 to 16. They had a very obvious URL too, like "johndoe1234cp" or someshit.
I reported it, but never got the typical "blah blah we received your report thank you" email from Tumblr staff. It might still be up because he just liked stuff instead of actually reblogging it (which means it would've been smarter to report the blogs he liked shit from, but whatever). Either way, I don't want to go back there.
Trust me when I say it's not difficult to come across these things, even accidentally. I've realized any online space with the capacity to host niche cultures without much strict authoritative attention has the potential to host illegal shit without much of a fuss.
No. 88624
>>88623Forgot to add that many pedophiles do this thing where they search "Webcam" on YouTube to find videos of very young girls where they might pull up their shirt or show their panties by accident or something.
Some of them are really sus, like kids dancing to Shakira with their shirts pulled up
No. 88670
>>88621>>88625Yep it was him. I struck up a 'friendship' with him and it sounded legit. He was trying to get over that though, and it was making him very depressed, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was trying to put that chapter of his life behind him
I hope he's a troll
No. 198082
>>197781last thing I would do, is give a group of hackers my personal information so they can book me a hotel thats cheaper than elsewhere.
Hackers and Deep web people are there for a reason. You should really be aware about anything you do and share there. They probably use your personal information against you or sell it ahead.
No. 227001
I find the idea of Tor so exciting in a nostalgic way but I'm too much of a pussy to really take a dive
I had the internet back in the late 90s and would just spend hours clicking through bbs boards and whatever now-boring stuff I could find. I enjoyed the intrigue of stumbling onto something 'secret' and I had no fear, the clearnet was already niche enough that it didn't take long to find bizarre things. Maybe it's because I was young and everyone was gullible back then about 1337 haxxors but everything seemed cool and exciting. Heck, search engines could send you to the most random places, rather than just wherever Google now decides it profits most to send you to
But now, I actually really don't want to see horrible gore or CP and I don't want to risk being put onto a list for stumbling upon it, so I don't feel I can go exploring anymore.
I'm too old to understand the true risks and mechanics of using Tor, so I need you kids to bring me back stories of the deep web so that I can live my 1337 dreams through you all. Lie to me if you have to.
>>226709expect to go the same way as Peep, you're better off buying small amounts from a friend because you know someone else has taken it too
No. 412967
>>412833Go to fail.dark if you want drugs. Not helping you with CP or anything like that. Dread probably has more links you're looking for, but I think they're getting DDoS'd right now.
https://darknetlive.com/dread/#how-to-access-dreadThat's all the help I'm giving you. Hidden wikis are really only useful if you're trying to get fetish stuff nowadays. There are better resources for "normal" illegal stuff.
No. 413366
Jesus guys! No I'm just trying to get ahold of the current link it because it always has the best links for questionably legal blockchain-related shit & encrypted messaging services. Plus, yeah, drugs, lol. Thanks
>>412967 ! I'd be happy to take any links for non-horrifying material.
It's been a hot minute since I've had use for the hidden wiki. Has it really just become a bunch of snuff & cp? It used to compile quite a lot of useful onions. I always suspected a lot of them were honeypots, but it was the best jumping-off point I knew of for finding what I was looking for.
I've heard the tor network is barely secure & anonymous anymore, anyway. Would be interested to hear farmer opinions on that, as well.
No. 419773
>>419690I can see some places being potential honeypots, but most regular users will know which are the current safe markets for trade and where to find proper links. I've been buying drugs online using Tor since 2012, never had one problem personally.
Anyways, the stuff for which I use Tor can 100% not be "found on the "clear" web as well" so I have no clue where you are pulling that claim.
Unless you're strictly talking about CP - "predators"? I know next to nothing about any of that lol.