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No. 180229

Farmers who live in Japan or have stayed in Japan for extended periods, how is it? What are some interesting/unexpected cultural norms? What kinds of things are there to do there? Do you encounter a lot of weebs and if so, how do you deal with them? Share your experiences, whether positive, negative, weird, etc.

No. 180238

I've stayed in Tokyo for a year.

When it comes to things to do there, it's like every big city basically. Unexpected stuff, I guess it depends on individual's background, but to me it was how whenever I planned hanging out with a Japanese person (for example: grabbing a lunch somewhere), they would take out their schedules, which were already filled with tons of plans, and find a little bit of free time like in the next month.
Also it was more difficult to make friends with a Japanese person, to me not for the language barrier but for the cultural differences and the way of thinking.

There are weebs in Tokyo of course, but it's not hard to avoid them. They don't care about you and you don't care about them and that's it.

It's clean and relatively safe for a big city. Though women might have problems with perverts/stalkers. I had problems three times with them but I realized if you act abrasive they go away (It's sad that a lot of Japanese women stay passive out of shame when these sick fucks harrass them).

I really liked their nature and countryside, it's really pretty. Too bad I was a student on budget so I didn't get to see much.

No. 180261

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From my experience living in Tokyo, its a super convenient place for lazy/quiet people. Copious vending machines, 24 hour marts, and good/cheap meals. $6 for some quality tonkatsu + a drink + endless rice and cabbage at a sit down restaurant. Plus, no tipping. The rainy season sucks ass if you're used to a dry climate, but I'm honestly a fan of the sticky summers/chilly springs.

Weirdest thing to me are those sweet potato carts. Got freaked out hearing one guy outside at like, 8pm. The area I was in was mostly residential on upper floors so I really don't know who he was trying to market to. The song sounds creepy when it's silent and you're alone.

I'm pretty boring so aside from small gatherings with friends at cafes, I mostly took walks or showed up to anime events. Don't have any advice for nightlife/bars/etc.

I see a shitload of Americans in Akihabara, although it's almost impossible to tell if they're weebs or just normies unless I eavesdrop. I've never ever seen anyone foreign doing embarrassing shit in anime shops or book stores. Mostly cringey weebs are the porky jfashion girls around Shibuya, and even then they're usually pretty tame (mostly by acting like they're offended that they've spotted another whitey in their Nippon Paradise).

Overall, I enjoy it, but I enjoy America too. I like the safe feeling of Japan, but I'm from Oakland so I'm not incredibly bothered by sketchy places either. I'm kinda high right now and everything's fine so sorry for not giving any real opinions. Japan is fun, so go visit and have fun. Eat some cakes, they're really really good especially if you're used to American garbage. Don't waste your money buying a sekai ichi apple, they taste really subpar. That's it.

No. 180265

>>180261
you seem really cool

No. 180275

I've been living in and around Tokyo for 7 years now.
When I first moved, everything was very exciting, now it's just blaaah.
Tbh I have very few Japanese friends because they just never have time. I'd rather hang out with people from my own country. Not even a language barrier thing, I'm pretty much fluent, it's just so much work to keep in contact with people especially if they don't live nearby.
Tokyo is extremely convenient though, and I've rarely ever felt unsafe. Most Japanese men are very good of keeping you the fuck alone if you tell them to, but I feel like there's quite a high rate of socially retarded men here as well, who'll try to follow you home.
When I see weebs, they're usually tourists, and I tend to ignore them. What kind of surprised me at first was that all the pop culture shit is not really all that big in Japan either. I don't know what I expected really, but a lot fewer people watch anime, read manga or wear some kind of "J-fashion" than I had expected at first. Had to notice that my interest in all of these things vanished after around 6 months here though.

No. 180277

I also stayed and worked in Tokyo for a year. I liked the fact that it was very convenient, that everybody was rather calm (people in my country often speak loudly in public transport for example which pisses me off) and that there was tons of awesome stores and events. However, you might feel very disappointed if you're a weeb and expect to see cosplayers and people reading mangas everywhere. Akihabara and Shibuya are full of tourists, foreign girls who think they're insanely pretty because they can get some Japanese dick will stare at you and Japanese people will sometimes do the same. I've never encountered any creeps hopefully but I know there are some. I just remember a guy at Tokyo Station during the rush hour who was sitting next to me and who I heard making weird noises and ended up looking at; he was watching girls in bikinis on his phone and had his hand in his pants… Gross.

I made a few Japanese friends but I felt way more comfortable with foreigners (must be the culture differences I don't know… I find Japanese people in general -there are few exceptions of course so don't get me wrong- a bit too fake and passive).

No. 180279

Did you speak Japanese fluently when you went to Japan or did you progress once you lived there? It has been years since I started studying Japanese but I'm really slow at learning it and most of the students in my courses who went there for at least a year thanks to an exchange program are at least practically fluent. I can't go to Japan because I'm poor as fuck so I feel like I'll never be able to visit Japan and learn Japanese as much as I want to. And is it true that eating out for cheap is less expensive than buying your food to cook? I've been told that but I really doubt it.

No. 180280

>>180279
For the food part I think it really depends on what you buy at the grocery store. Vegetables are extremely expensive for example, and foreign brands (Nutella, Panzani for example) are expensive as well. Even if eating out is mostly cheap, eating ramen gets boring

No. 180281

>>180279
When I first moved here I had JLPT N5. Japanese people will praise you if you can say like three words.
As for food, it really depends. Lunch where I work starts at 1000¥, so it's much cheaper to just make Bento.

No. 180283

I've been working in Tokyo for a little over a year. I came with very minimal Japanese language skills, but fortunately I've been (slowly) improving.
For the first six months I was pretty much on my own, which I didn't mind since my life was so hectic, but after a while it felt lonely and I actually tried to make friends. Foreigners are a lot easier to connect with in general because you have a shared experience of living in a foreign country. Some of your struggles will be the same and usually some of your interests as well. Japanese people are a bit more difficult to connect with. In my case, my Japanese was awful so I can only blame myself in that respect. Most of the Japanese friends I have now were introduced to me through mutual friends or I met going to events.
The one thing that really dampened my experience was my fear of eating alone in public. A lot of that was tied to being afraid to order, but even in my home country I find it awkward so I feel like I haven't gotten to experience that much in the way of good Japanese food.

No. 180288

>>180283
What field do you work in?

Asking because I have a liberal arts degree from the US and decent work experience in corporations/public sectors. Somehow I don't think Japanese companies will want to hire someone just based on that, tho :/

No. 180311

>>180283
oh please, tell me how you came to work there (which site did you apply to and which field is it related to)! I've been obsessed with Japan since ever and I really want to live there. I'm a web dev so not sure if there's anything for me? I could always freelance but that's kind of tough.

No. 180314

I'm going to be studying there for a few months soon. Apparently I can get a part-time job with my student visa, I'm wondering if it'd be a good thing to do.
Also I've been told repeatedly that it would be impossible to stay vegetarian there, does any Anon here have any experience regarding this or friend who do? Not necessarily being vegetarian yourself, but do you feel like you could go along easily without eating meat of fish? For example I've been told there's always some in the broth of most ramen shops so it's almost impossible to eat out.

No. 180315

>>180314
I also studied abroad for a semester. In between exploring and (hopefully) making new friends, the last thing you'll want to do is wash dishes in the back of a ramen shop. There are no arubaitos for non-fluent speakers. Maybe you could coach English for a few hours a week.

Also, yeah, everything has fish in it. Buddhist-style restaurants might exist where you are though, so there's that?

No. 180317

>>180315
I have N2 so technically I have good enough Japanese to work but I see what you mean. Extra cash would be nice though.
I guess I'll mostly just eat in then, kind of was expecting that.

No. 180318

>>180229
Well for Kyoto you mostly see two types of people: westerners living there, or western tourists that are the hitchhiker type (aka the opposite of the party animal type you may find more in Tokyo lol). If you're an exchange or international student in Japan, it's easy to make friends through club activities btw. Granted, it still depends on which you join, cause some clubs have really fun people in it, and others anti social people who don't care about you. So choose wisely.

No. 180319

>>180288
>>180311

I'm replying to both of you since your questions were similar:

I work as a consultant at a professional services company (basically business and technology strategy). It's not a Japanese company, but it has a branch in Tokyo. I was job hunting in the US and happened to see they were also hiring for their Tokyo offices and I decided to give it a shot. So perhaps look into some larger global companies to see if they have branches in Japan.
Also, I know people will hate this, but teaching English is honestly a fairly solid job, especially with a liberal arts degree. I know plenty of people who came over to teach and were able to find other jobs once they were here or actually enjoyed teaching. Even if it's not for you, it's a good way to get a foothold here.
My last suggestion would be to find a good online job and then find part time work (again, teaching would be best) to get a visa. That way you're spending minimal time teaching and can have more freedom to travel around the city. That's honestly what I wish I was doing.

No. 180323

>>180314
Unfortunately you are right on the money with the broth. My sister is vegetarian and whenever she comes here we basically ignore all the broth.
I came here on working holiday first, and I worked at a hotel, making beds. Not very glamorous, but whatever.

The hardest part for most people is getting a visa, especially if they're not native English speakers. Getting a visa for teaching English is still an extremely easy way into the country. If you live in a smaller town where there aren't many foreigners, you might get a visa if you're not native, but not in Tokyo.
If I hadn't gotten married I wouldn't be here. (Just to be clear: I wouldn't want to live in Japan without my husband, and I'm a permanent resident now, so if I wanted I could get a divorce.)

No. 180329

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>>180261
>>180265
2nd, we should all be friends.

No. 180330

What are their colleges like? Is it super hard to get in to a post graduate program? Are they expensive? I'm getting my degree at the end of the year and would like to study there but idk how to go about that…

No. 180344

Is it possible to get a visa to teach English there if you don't have a college degree?
Everywhere I've read, it says you need a BA in anything, but I'm not going to enroll in college because I want to teach there for a year and see if I like it.

Is there any ways or anything I could do to be qualified to apply? Would they even accept me without a college degree if I took a CELTA (or an equivalent), or should I stop trying?

No. 180346

>>180344
This is a really easily googled question so clearly you don't care about it that much?
The big companies like JET etc already have so many applicants that they will expect a degree or at the least TEFL, but if you are white and a fluent native English speaker then you can still find work in the small private language schools or rural locations. For that it's easier if you come to Japan on a working holiday visa and then find and apply for those jobs whilst you are here, but obviously that requires you to have some money in the first place.

No. 180362

>>180261
How do you do weed/drugs if you live in Japan? Or was this a past experience?

No. 180364

>>180319
Good for you! Thanks for the answer.

Why would a multinational company want to relocate someone to Tokyo from the US, though? Do you only do consulting for English speakers?

No. 180370

>>180362
Avoid it, the authorities are super strict when it comes to drugs from what I've seen in the news. Some young French tourist got caught smoking weed in public and thought she would just be told to stop by the cops like in France but she was sentenced to almost 20 years of prison iirc, it was some years ago.

No. 180371

>>180370
Sage for samefagging, I mixed it up with another case in latin america, she was sentenced to almost 10 years.

No. 180385

>>180362
Don't, because if they find out they'll kick you out of the country and not let you back in for a while.
Whenever I tell Japanese people that I once smoked weed when I was 15, they think that I must've been a crazy teenager.

No. 180424

>>180362
I'm not in Japan at the moment. Currently I'm in the US and traveling back and forth a few times a year.

I don't do drugs in Japan, HOWEVER if you're insane you can do some hard drugs legally. Theyll be pretty sketch though. They're only legal for the sole reason that they just haven't been made illegal yet + you'll probably have to be in good with some natives. Be prepared for playing Japan on Hardmode.

No. 180425

>>180362
my friend was visiting another friend who has lived there for like 5 years and they got drunk and bought weed off nigerians in roppongi. he said they went into some back alley and it was the shittest weed ever and the guy made them smoke it with him and he did not recommend the experience lol.

i wouldnt do drugs in japan, and i'm a bit of a pothead.

No. 180480

>>180364
Thanks!
It was less of a relocation and more of a need to hire someone at the Tokyo branch who could speak English and had a consulting background.

>>180362
I've seen people smoking joints at clubs before, but usually near the bathrooms. I've also met a few Japanese people who smoke spice (synthetic weed) and actually think it's better for them / less dangerous, which is kind of sad. Better to not even bother and save yourself from all the trouble

No. 180498

I haven't read the whole thread yet but I thought I would pull my thoughts together.
I live in a small city, pretty far from any big city, and I actually really enjoy it. I've been able to see a side of Japan that is outside of what you see on television. I don't see many weebs but I've encountered some very rude and stupid westerners. More than I wish existed. Japanese people are mostly kind, whether you speak their language or not, and if they don't like you it won't be super apparent. My Japanese is pretty limited but it doesn't stop me from making friends with others. A neighbor brought over some sushi for me tonight, homemade, just because she likes us. They're very accommodating in my experience here. As long as you show respect, you will probably never have a major issue.
Also, Japan is amazing when it comes to children. You'll see kids alone on trains, and some very young children walking home alone. Lots of stuff for kids to do just about everywhere. And adults generally like kids. Which is crazy to me. I have seen some real nastiness from adults towards kids when I lived in California.

I'll try to think of more to add later, or if I see something else specific in the thread to address. Or if you have more questions, go for it. In my experience, Tokyo is a totally different experience than most of the rest of Japan.

No. 180499

>>180498
Bullshit. I live in California and people here treat their kids so well they spoil them rotten.

No. 180500

>>180498
Unless thats what you mean

No. 180503

>>180499
Are you actually retarded? Of course a lot of parents are going to treat their kids well. (But California is a really large state, so it's not like your anecdote holds up well.) Anon means that complete strangers have genial attitudes towards the random kids walking around alone.

No. 180509

>>180498
>Also, Japan is amazing when it comes to children. You'll see kids alone on trains, and some very young children walking home alone.

This is my number one reason for wanting to visit japan. I want to see a society that's safe and find out what it feels like.

No. 180511

>>180238
>Though women might have problems with perverts/stalkers. I had problems three times with them but I realized if you act abrasive they go away
How did you act to make them leave you alone? Are japanese men as agressive as those here in the west, or do they leave quickly if you attempt to cause a scene?

No. 180512

>>180511
Not that anon, but my sister once got chased by one, and he literally ran after her. So I guess there are some lunatics that are too aggressive to get rid off by words. However, this wasn't in public. I think that if it is in a public setting (like in the train), they will back off when you make a scene, cause it attracts the attention of other people.

No. 180513

I'd really like to hear accounts from people not from the US. I'm from a small European country and from what I've heard Japan is hell for Americans but pretty nice from people from more "toned down" cultures.

No. 180537

>>180503
Thanks,anon. Exactly what I meant.

No. 180544

>>180346
Everywhere I asked told me that private schools were a pipe dream and that I was fucked because I have no degree, and that since I live in the USA I'm super fucked because we don't have a working holiday visa equivalent?

No I haven't looked too hard because everyone told me it wasn't possible but I decided to post here in passing since I was scrolling by anyway haha.

Thanks!

No. 180639

>>180513
I'm German.
Japanese people tend to like Europeans more than US Americans tbh. :)

No. 180641

>>180639
Well no shit. We committed war crimes bombing their country.

No. 180642

>>180641
The average Japanese person doesn't care about that as much as you'd think. (Not sure about people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki though)
It's more that you guys still have army bases in Japan and are pretty far away from Japan culturally and temperamentally.

No. 180643

>>180513
>small European country
lol The Netherlands? Anyway, towards Europeans they're generally nice. Didn't feel that they treated me better than the Americans though.

No. 180646

>>180639
I've found this myself, and I'm American. Sometimes Japanese would ask me if I was from Germany or Russia, but when I responded "America" their faces would turn sour.
To be fair, I've had this happen with other Americans as well so it's not an exclusively Japanese or foreign reaction.
One benefit of being American is that there are quite a few Japanese who love America and will become extremely enthusiastic to find out you aren't European. Generally, people view people as people in most countries imo. So just be yourself no matter your nationality.

No. 180657

Anyone having experience living in rural Japan? I studied Japanese for four years in high school but I still feel like I'm really bad at it. I'm kind of interested in a JET type program after college and am more interested in rural areas than urban, but I've been told they're worse for foreigners and especially for non-fluents.

No. 180659

>>180657
I live in a more rural area.
Well it can be tougher, and it would be better to learn more of the language. There are a lot of older people, and while Japanese tend to never be openly critical of you, it's clear that it frustrates them when they can't communicate with you.

>>180646
I was told a long time ago, you're better off staying the state you're from. Like when I said California, people tend to think highly of that state and less about being American.

No. 180666

I don't understand all the people who want to go to Japan without having functional Japanese… The language is easy as fuck, you can get a respectable lever in one or two years. When you apply for a program usually procedures start at least six months before the trip itself, just study during that time so you won't be too handicappped.

No. 180753

>>180643
>Luxembourg
>Belgium
>Vatican City
>Monaco
>San Marino
>….

No. 180784

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How would you go about doing "animation" interships in Japan?
Although you can find companies to arrange them for you, I did hear that it's possible to contact the company directly and ask. The only thing is it's preferable if you are currently living in Japan and I just want to set up a situation in which I'm going to Japan with the intent to study/work. I certainly don't have the best business Japanese but I do have a good grasp of conversational and written Japanese (around N2). Any advice?

No. 180788

This is sort of different since I lived with my family when we were stationed in Misawa Air Base. I remember one time we were at the local cherry blossom festival and this Japanese guy grabbed my sister who was only 8 at the time. He was pulling her away from us until my parents noticed her crying. My dad was furious and the guy ran away quickly into the crowd and disappeared. It was really weird. But other than that, great experience. I was a kid/pre-teen when I lived there so I have very nostalgic memories. I remember loving the shopping malls.
Through our church program we had local Japanese teens/young adults stay with us for weekends as a sort of "cultural exchange". It was really neat, big language barriers but the guests we all had were very polite and fun to be around.

No. 180801

>>180666
I agree with the part about taking the time to study, but I've moved to several countries without having a strong grasp on the language. It's just a part of travel and not that big of a deal. If you're lazy and never try that's different

No. 180829

>>180784
Do you have any cuts to show them already? You can take freelance work even before you live in japan, if you are working with a company that gets contracted by a studio to do some work.

Do you have a blog? I'm not even close to the level I need to be to animate, but I like to follow those of you who can.

No. 180941

>>180511
Last August or September I was in the Sanrio in Sunshine City and a Japanese man approached me and straight up asked me if I wanted to go on a date to the sky tree with him. I was very taken aback and speechless for a good 10 seconds because 1. I was just causally shopping 20 seconds ago and 2. I had always heard of how shy Japanese men were and how they'd be too intimidated to approach a woman (especially a gaijin woman)

I gathered my thoughts and told him I was sorry but I have a boyfriend (I did/do) he straight up BOLTED out of the store yelling an apology back at me like I'd just told him "my yakuza boyfriend is just around the corner with a gun."

Very bizarre. I think this dude must have just been hanging out in Sanrio trying to pick up girls

No. 180943

>>180659
Yeah that's a good idea about using your state. I've said California too, but when asked my nationality my mind immediately goes to America. When you've said you're from California, have you also had people ask you, "Is that a part of the U.S. or it's own country?" I've had this happen multiple times, except with people who told me they had been there. I've heard the strangest ideas of California (if people even know what it is in some cases….), so generally haven't received the same positive feedback unfortunately.

No. 180996

>>180659
>>180943
I don't know how anyone could think highly of California of all places, saying this as a non-yank. Vermont or Maine, maybe.

No. 181005

>>180996
You have to understand that most basic Japanese people are going to have really stereotyped views of America (and other countries) considering how non-diverse their own country is.

From my experience, I've heard the following:
America = Friendly people, tall, blue eyes, outgoing
California = Movie stars and beaches
Texas = Cowboys, ranches, cowboys again
Russia = Beautiful girls, snow, bears
Australia = Loud, rude, blonde/blue eyed

No. 196572

Farmers, I didn't see anything about housing in this thread. How did you guys secure short term housing?

I'm considering moving to Kyoto or Kobe. Im sure it's a lot in easier in bigger cities like Osaka or Tokyo.

No. 196592

Relevant:

>"…Europe and America evince a singular taste for the marvellous, and find a zest in self-depreciation. Our eighteenth-century ancestors imagined all perfections to be realised in China, thanks to the glowing descriptions then given of that country by the Jesuits. Twentieth-century Europe finds its moral and political Eldorado in distant Japan, a land of fabulous antiquity and incredible virtues. There is no lack of pleasant-mannered persons ready to guide trustful admirers in the right path. Official and semi-official Japanese, whether ambassadors and ministers-resident or peripatetic counts and barons, make it their business to spread a legend so pleasing to the national vanity, so useful as a diplomatic engine. Lectures are delivered, books are written in English, important periodicals are bought up, minute care is lavished on the concealment, the patching-up, and glossing-over of the deep gulf that nevertheless is fixed between East and West. The foreigner cannot refuse the bolus thus artfully forced down his throat. He is not suspicious by nature. How should he imagine that people who make such positive statements about their own country are merely exploiting his credulity? HE has reached a stage of culture where such mythopoeia has become impossible. On the other hand, to control information by consulting original sources lies beyond his capacity."


http://www.gutenberg.org/files/2510/2510-h/2510-h.htm

No. 196602

>>180229

I was in Tokyo for awhile, extended stay at an air bnb owned by a super chill guy.
Yoyogi was pretty weeb and foreigner free from what I saw. The only time I came in contact with anyone who was Japanese was at the station by the place I lived inside.

Ugliest foreigner moment was two dudes and some girl being loud and rude on the train home. They were telling her she was gonna be raped by some Japanese dude if she wasn't careful and joking around about it.

Most weebs I ever saw in harajuku on a weekday. A lot of them dressed up like Lolita's pretty badly. But it seemed more foreigners were dressed up than Japanese girls. But there's tons who go to akihabara believing it's a huge weeb paradise but honestly there's tons of electronic stores. It's not that great unless you really hunt down some good places.

It's been a couple years since I lived there and honestly I didn't have any high expectations of it being an anime paradise. So I wasn't disappointed as some of my friends who have visited

No. 197115

I got a job offer recently for a position in Tokyo. I'm super stressing out about, well, generally everything regarding moving. Not sure if I should ship my furniture or just buy all new furniture when I get there. I like the idea of starting fresh, but we do intend on staying a long while there.

No. 197126

>>197115
Join sayonara sales groups for good deals. There are also a lot of recycle shops in Japan, you don't need to ship everything.

No. 197127

I'm a huge weeb so I've always wanted to go to Japan.
Now I'm almost graduating from law school and thinking about applying for a masters program there.

I'm mostworried about supporting myself there, I don't have a lot of money and I'm not from any english speaking country so I'm not sure if I'd be able to find a job teaching english. Maybe portuguese? (I'm from Brazil)

No. 197131

>>197127
You can easily get a job in a convenience store if you can get by with Japanese. If you're applying for a masters in Japan I'm guessing you do?

No. 198624

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Anyone have any advice/stories for someone who wants to study abroad in Japan?
I've been thinking about it a lot recently but I'm shy so I'm not sure I'd survive
how do you anons deal with the isolation and homesickness?

No. 198701

>>198624
>how do you anons deal with the isolation and homesickness?
I got incredibly lucky because there are a dozen people from my country at the uni where I'm doing my semester abroad. When I go out it's basically always with people from my country, so I don't feel very lonely and if I feel homesick I have people to talk to that are close to me. Not really a fan of venting at a distance, it's more satisfying to talk directly to people.
I used to think I'd be above that, and that since I'm in Japan I should befriend Japanese people instead of speaking French all the time, but hell, after a full day of classes in Japanese I just want to unwind.

Look up if the university you're going to has an international students circle, those are great. Organize nights out with people if that's your thing, you don't even have to pay for an expensive izakaya, just get some beers and go chill in a park. In my opinion being social is the best way to not feel sad or isolated, but if you're more of an indoors person I'd say really getting into a hobby can be nice. At first when I came here and didn't go out a lot I would spend loads of time drawing and it helped me not feel sad.

Also if you have your doubts maybe start with just one semester rather than one year? Personally I regret that I'll have to leave soon, I wish it could have been one full year, but my university doesn't allow more than one semester anyways. I want to say "know your limits" but unless you've been abroad that long before I don't think you can really know.



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