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eye color change will make you blind don't be a retard

You should consider therapy before surgery

If you do, either don't have kids or prepare for them to be ugly af and cry about it just like you did

>>200892
she said she already tried that

sorry to hear about all that, anon. I'm against plastic surgery because of muh radical feminist agenda, but if it's really what you want go for it I guess.

>>200890
anon… what you have is bodydysmorphia. You will just end up like all the other plastic surgery addicts, because no surgery is gonna fix what is truly wrong with you.

No matter what you do, what you fix and what you change about your body, there will always be people who will pick on you on the most minuscule things or will decide they dont find you attractive. And then? Get another surgery?

And if you would actually hit the goal of being the most attractive person on earth people would pick on something else: the way you dress, the way you style your hair, that you shave your armpits or dont shave it, how you live your life, what you say and so on and so on and so on.

How is it so worth is pleasing everyone and achieving anyone else's validation of your body and your life?

Your problem is the self-loathing and the bodydysmorphia, not that youre indeed ugly.

By the way I dont get the eye color thing. Not mentioning how fake the lense implants actually look (not like a real iris) and the risks and side effects I dont really get, what would be unattractive or ugly about an eye color?

>>200895
to add:
not only are you focussed on outside validation about your body, now youre even trying to validate your decisions.

Why do you care so much about what others think?

tbh you might as well do it
yeah you might end up addicted but at this point you obviously will never love yourself so what's the harm? as long as you aren't forcing anyone else to get surgery i dont see the problem

>>200890
>is it wrong
start by defining wrong. god, if this is how you want to spend your time on earth, go for it. just dont expect it will change your life.

>>200895
>No matter what you do, what you fix and what you change about your body, there will always be people who will pick on you on the most minuscule things or will decide they dont find you attractive.
or "ewww, you had plastic surgery/silicone tits/[random]"

You'll probably end up like the bogs if you go too deep in the rabbit hole, but one or two surgeries are okay. The problem is that you'll probably not want to stop in just one. I have wanted to do rhino and genio in the past, but now I'm mostly okay with how I look like. But, if I had Graves and there was a surgery that corrects the eye bulging, I'd do it, because I would not be changing how my genes have made me, just the outcome of a disease.

Don't change your whole face, there's only so much doctors can do before you start looking like a plastic abomination (worse than before). Take a good hard look at your face and realistically decide what you can live with. What features do you see as being not conventionally ideal, but not ugly either? Those are the features that you can always make better using makeup, etc. and are your unique points. Every single person has features they feel "meh" about.

Then take another look and decide what you absolutely cannot live with, or what you genuinely think is ugly in your opinion. Oftentimes people find that addressing the one main thing that they didn't like helped them perceive their face better as a whole and they no longer found further surgery necessary. In your case, this seems to be your eyes which, in all fairness, were affected by a disease. I would think of this as corrective surgery rather than cosmetic, tbh.

Otherwise, I agree with the other anons that you should probably wait longer and work through some of your standing issues. Surgery can be a very slippery slope if you're not mentally in a good place.

Also, seconding the sentiment, don't fuck with your eyes and don't believe those photoshopped facial transformation pictures you find on the internet.

>>200901
Also, I bet you don't look nearly as bad as you think you do. I'm in my mid-twenties now and a lot of things about my appearance I used to be obsessively unhappy with simply don't matter anymore now that I have other things to worry about. Give it time.

Nothing wrong with surgery OP. I admire women like in your picture, who don't settle with being ugly.

You should be careful about fixing minor issues though, since it's a lot easier for them to come out looking worse than before. Wait until you get off the waiting list and see a therapist before diving into anything. With that said, chances are the therapist will say "you look fine", "there is more to life than looks" etc.

It sounds like you might be dysmporhic based on your desire to change your eye color or have smaller surgeries such as eyebag surgery performed. I hate to suggest lolcow as a platform due to the bullying, but honestly, lolcow, reddit or crystal.cafe might be good places to receive honest feedback on your features. Upload some pics (not blurry, oddly angled etc. Just normal, hair pulled back, straight on pics with little to no makeup). Most forums and irl people won't be honest with you. Even though there will surely be some trolls, judge what you should change (if anything) based on the AVERAGE user response.


>>Also..
I'm not sure how you plan to afford all this, but remember that especially for nose jobs you shouldn't go cheap. There is a high chance for revision surgery – revisions cost around 2x the price of original surgery.

i dont think it's wrong to want PS, but you have to research and get a doctor who knows what they are doing, don't settle for someone cheap and shitty in your hometown if you're looking to reconstruct your entire face. otherwise go for it, it's your life, do what you want.

the only thing i disagree with is eye color bc that's really not killing your self esteem is it

>>200900
>The problem is that you'll probably not want to stop in just one.
You will if you're a normal person. I've had a nose job and I'll never get anything else done save for fillers when I'm 40 and up.

>>200890
anon, I am one of those "beautiful people" (I hate writing that because I don't want to humblebrag) and there are features I think are meh or even ugly sometimes. Other people often don't even notice them, and it makes me wonder if you're being too hard on yourself. Not only that, but a lot of people grow into their looks, and end up being attractive or interesting looking after being "ugly" children.

Have you seen what high fashion models look like? They're not really conventionally attractive by a lot of peoples' standards, but they're striking, and that striking look is admired artistically or found attractive anyway.

Please consider looking into body dysmorphic disorder, as has been mentioned. It sounds like years of mistreatment have taken a toll on your self-esteem. Remember that a lot of plastic surgeons want your money, and rather than actually sculpting your face, may go for getting you under the knife as much as they can. There are legit and artistic surgeons, but if you do go that way, be cautious. However, you're probably better off trying other routes again. You're really young and need to think hard about this and get more outside opinions from people you can trust to be honest.

(also, I thought I had GD at one point, it scared the shit out of me because I didn't want my face to change. You're a tough lady for still holding through despite what it's done to your self-esteem.)

sage for long ass post with tmi

>>200893
>but muh ugly kids
Not all pretty people have pretty kids, and not all ugly people have ugly kids either. You obviously don't know how genetics work and that's a tired old argument only dumb neckbeards use.
>>200890
OP, you sound mentally unwell. First of all, things that are supposed to 'improve your appearance' will only do so if they suit your features. Slapping on a perm and getting a tan won't magically make you less ugly. That's the tranny approach to changing your appearance. Have you tried less obvious things, like changing the shape of your eyebrows, getting a side part, taking care of your skin, improving your diet? I'm not against PS but it sounds like there's more to it than just being ugly.
Second, there's different kinds of attractive and it sounds to me like you're comparing yourself to people who are very conventionally attractive to the point of being boring, which very few of us are.
I refuse to believe you're that helpless, if Sarah Jessica Parker can make it then so can you.

>>200905
This. Do lots of research beforehand and don't go to specific doctors simply because they are cheaper. If it's botched the first time, revision surgery can't always fix it.

But please don't fuck up your vision. Bright ocular implants have such a high risk of causing blindness. There have been several instances of people who have become blind 1-2 years after getting them. It's really not worth the risk.

>Is it wrong to completely change your face?
If you really are objectively that hideous, no. If the way you look makes you suffer, you deserve to change it in a way that makes you happy. Just be wary and make a lot of research to find good, reputable surgeons that won't fuck up your face. Good luck!

>>200948
Samefagging, obviously you should go for safe surgeries. Don't touch your eyes or jaw, anon. Eye implants are useless, eye color doesn't make a person pretty wtf

>>200890
It's not wrong, you deserve it. Being ugly is a curse. Investing in your appearance is absolutely worth it. Everyone will treat you better (even family) and you'll be able to get a high quality husband. I hope you go through with it and end up cute as fuck.

>>200949
>eye color doesn't make a person pretty
False.

>>200960
Eh, not really. She'd be pretty no matter what color eyes she has. Her eye color does not make her pretty, she already is.

Is there any actual proof that eye color change leads to blindness? I know there's a non invasive laser surgery in Spain available. The eye color change with implants does lead to blindness, that I know.
It's just that I hate my brown eyes, it's not even the imageboards that made me hate the brown color, even as a kid I recall wanting to have blue eyes or green like my mother has.
Plus, I think being pale with dark hair and blue eyes is a perfect combo. And there has been polls that men consider women with blue eyes more attractive than those with brown eyes. Fuck, I think I'm going to go through it.

>>200962
>polls
Lol, and blondes also have more fun. Doesn't mean that blonde hair suits everyone.
Just wait until safe procedures become available and then do whatever you want. Going to a random foreign country to get some shady surgery done is the epitome of stupidity imo, and I'm saying that as someone who has had plastic surgery.
>>200960
She was gorgeous before too.

>>200952
Sad but true, even if lots of people deny it. Basically, if you're ugly you get treated like shit and passed over for more attractive people. Everyone tells you to only settle for other uggos and that you ought to feel 'grateful' for someone hot being attracted to you. Whenever you argue with someone, they'll use ad hominems against your appearance. Everyone will tell you you're 'beautiful just the way you are' because they're not the ones dealing with these issues. When you get plastic surgery people will just call you vapid and fake, if they find out, that is.

I don't know about you but I'd rather be called fake. Still doesn't mean I don't think OP is a bit cuckoo, though.

>>200966
calm down edgelord

>>200966
>>200965
Sage your autism

>>200960
You have to be 18+ to post here

Hey guys OP here, I'm very surprised by the overwhelming support, I thought everyone was going to make fun of me because of how crazy I am. I'm glad I posted it anyways. I am aware I have body dysmorphia after I got rejected by 1 of the 2 plastic surgeons I saw. It's very tough to get mental health professionals who specialize in issues other than severe things like suicide, because I am no longer a teenager I have a higher chance at rejection because teenagers tend to be the priority when it comes to mental illness.

I've been hurt by many people, especially guys. I was pretty digusted at boys who previously picked on me for my appearance, laughed at me and called me pizza face, ugly, etcetc, when they saw me again after I revamped my look during highschool they all spoke to me with respect, and some of them even had trouble speaking and they even had the guts to try flirting with me.

I know the other surgeries I mentioned are pretty crazy especially the eye color change, I believe it stems from the fixation of looking "perfect as humanly possible".

From a very young age I learned that people treat others differently based on their looks, I was not a ugly child but I sure felt like one. I use to pray asking god to help me be prettier and eat anything my parents told me that would make me prettier(they were trying to get me to eat vegs lol). I don't rmb the rest but there was alot. The only time I feel comfortable out is when I wear heavy eye makeup, I do it hoping that no one notices how weird my eyes look. I am very, very lucky and grateful to have a partner that thinks I'm beautiful regardless despite that at times I still think I'm hideous. My partner does not understand or know the extent of my appearance complex, I am opened to undergoing therapy again but I'm just not confident.

For now I'll be doing 2 of the procedures, eye and nose. Insurance will cover it and my partner will be helping too. I can't say forsure if I am going to do the other stuff, though I still really want to get my chin done

I understand why everyone says it's so easy falling prey to this and being addicted. I knew someone irl that did every kind of surgery out there including her vag. Her face looks like it's gonna melt off now a days. It's scary tbh. I but I know my partner will always stop me from getting unnecessary procedures that I don't need.

To the Anon that asked me about my eyebrows, I have really thins brows because of 2000's overplucking. I draw em on all the time, I don't make them instagram thick or anything just normal natural brows. I don't go too crazy on the tan anymore : P

Thanks to everyone who commented, it really means alot to me. I got good advice, words of encouragement and not to mention the possible negative outcomes from said procedures.

hugs

Sry if it are any grammar mistakes, on mobile

>>200960
She's actually uglier with blue eyes tbh.

>>200987
Why not just use coloured contacts from your optometrist instead of getting eye surgery?

>>200913
exactly

>>200987
OP, I was like you too! I wanted to get a jaw shave, forehead reduction, some weird procedure that would make my eyes upturned, undereye hollow implants, nose job + alar base reduction + lip lift + lip injections

i'm glad you realized you were just nitpicky, it's the worst to think you have to change every detail of yourself and the best to overcome it. I only want two procedures now too! wishing you lots of luck with your PS. btw check realself for doctors and always read lots and lots of reviews before jumping into anything!

>>200995
because blue lenses look super obvious and fake on brown eyes because it doesnt turn them blue, just a really awkward muddied color.

>>200999
Ever heard of solotica lenses

>>200992
Thanks, I check realself regularly and I do ask questions, it's a great site cause it's like a mini consultation without the fees. For now I know it makes the most sense to get the 2 procedures that I need for medical reasons, tbh I still want to get my eye color changed with laser or whatever but I know my partner will not let me and he'll be pretty mad that I even thought about it. I'll just be sticking to color contacts or something

>>200999
So what's wrong with brown eyes? Maybe it's because I have brown eyes, but I think they're nicer and warmer than blue eyes. No offense to anyone with blue eyes, this is just my opinion. I've never looked at anyone and thought, "they'd be so much prettier if they just had a DIFFERENT eye colour." People are born with the eye colour that suits them.

>>201026
No, people are born with an eye color, not an eye color that "suits" them. If that were the case then people would't get surgeries to fix things that are unflattering.

>>201028
People buy useless and harmful things all the time, this isn't an argument.

>>201006
It looks fake. And they're probably using flattering angles and lighting. IRL you can immediately tell when someone's sporting color lenses. Solotica though, are probably best I've seen so far.

>>201028

I have never met anyone who had an "unflattering" eye color. What the fuck even is an unflattering eye color anyway?

So I decided to check out what Graves' disease doesn't to the eyes and I don't blame you for wanting to change them, however dear op, it may be best to speak with your doctor regarding any changes rather than a plastic surgeon. As your doctor may know the extent of the damage and may help you find a way to overcome it. Other than that, plastic surgery is fine but as many other anons have mentioned, if you wish to have kids, you may pass on your problems to them. Since you have acknowledged that you have body dysmorphia, I do hope you find a therapist that can help you overcome it soon.


As for changing eye colour, I never knew there was such a thing. I've never seen any eye colour that's unflattering and I don't see why you wish to permanently want to change your eye colour. but damn, the power of beauty standards is scary-

>>201028
>No, people are born with an eye color, not an eye color that "suits" them
People's hair, skin and eye colour ALWAYS harmonise. The only reason you think XYZ colour looks bad on you is because you're wearing unflattering makeup, dyeing your hair an unflattering colour or wearing clothing whose colour doesn't suit you.

If plastic surgery makes YOU happy then go for it, I could care less as long as you aren't harming other people. But first, make sure you really want it and won't regret it. Go to a good surgeon so you don't end up getting a botched surgery.

>>200915
Oh get fucked. Sure not every instance, but generally kids look like their parents. Ugly parents- ugly kids, beautiful parents-beautiful kids. Of course not literally 100% of the time. But usually.

>>201154
Lol no. Kids inherit individual features, not entire faces. There's very few people whose every single facial feature is deformed and/or exaggerated, it's the combination of different features that makes a person ugly, pretty or plain.
Furthermore, a facial deformity caused by a thyroid disease is not hereditary, it's like saying your kid will be born with one leg missing if you're a cripple. Most people who undergo plastic surgery aren't bimbos and starlets and have very real deformities they'd like to fix, many of which were caused by some accident or another, so chimping out about muh ugly babies is just pointless and makes you look deranged.
Ultimately, ugly people can get surgery to look better and don't have to answer to you for anything, but there's no surgery that can fix an angry retard on the internet.

>>200890
>plastic surgery
If you want a completely different face it's probably cheaper to get into extreme body modification.

>>200962
why dont you start of with colored lenses?

regarding the pizza face… has that to do with acne and skin scars? lasers do wonder. I think you would go best with some simple minor procedures like skin, microblading for eyebrows and so on.

>he only reason you think XYZ colour looks bad on you is because
kek at that. Most of the time especially in summer when they lighten up even more I look like I have no eyebrows since I was blonde as a child and the hair on my eyebrows are nearly seethrough. so thats flattering? kek