/ot/ - off-topic

to anyone who's interested, supposedly the JFK papers will be released next week. probably still redacted to hell and back but interesting nonetheless

>>209647
I hope it’s the whole damn file rather than a few papers tbh

>>209647
I'm pretty hyped!

Any update on the Weinstein fiasco?

Totally underrated thread. I love conspiracy theories and can watch a marathon of documentaries and good YouTube vids with a fat joint the whole day through. You can actually learn some history or weird facts and some people go to great lengths investigating.Some conspiracy theories are too crazy like the Beatles never really existing or about the Vegas shootings actually being staged (that's just really fucked up) but some theories I believe are actually true.

mandela effect is a mixed bag tho, some are just hyped up but the others are crazy weird. The one that got me was the I love Lucy show, and that the saying "Lucy, I'm home you got some splain'in to do" was never said. That tripped me out cause I said it all the time as a child, and it was The only memorable thing I accquired from that show and many shows and references have been made for that saying. So it's weird that it's never been said at all.


The Illuminati is also really intriguing, and although some people may not have some hardcore evidence, there is a high possibility that a high power of that sort can actually exist.

And I'm definitely on the boat with aliens. I don't know if there are any alienbelievers here, but it would be nice to hear some input as well because there are some fake and also some believable evidence that always surround this topic.

>>209728
mandela effect generally just makes people sound stupid, like it does here. it is also totally unrelated since it's a shit meme.

>>209729
sage for samefag, but fuck anon, if you're going to try to be witty with ~mandela effect~ at the very least you need to get the quotes correct. you sound like you're fucking underage with your shitty low-tier psych sense of humor.

>>209729
No need to be hostile, I was just sharing some ideas to help start a thread going so I just shared some things that were interesting to me at least. I wasn't trying to be witty or smart or anything lol, these are things that are easily accessible or seen on the internet so these are some things that comes to mind.

I get that it's totally fucked up to imply that the las Vegas shooting was entirely staged, but I don't understand how he broke out two of those hurricane proof windows. Especially without anyone on the same floor as him alerting the front desk that some crazy loud shit was happening in one of the hotel rooms

>>209736
i was talking with someone who brought up the point that there is no way the guy did it by himself. not sure if you saw the leaked image but dude had stacks of magazines and gun equipment that he wouldn't have been able to carry it all up (or for when he kept asking for room changes) by himself. They said something about how the lobby staff would have noticed him taking multiple trips but I dont know how true that is considering its a pretty busy hotel.

>>209736
It's not like the dude just unscrewed them, you can see the windows hammered open from the outside. There are tools specifically made to do that. If your issue is with the sound it would make, I would point out the dude was also bump firing a rifle. They're not exactly quiet.

>>209741
>They said something about how the lobby staff would have noticed him taking multiple trips but I dont know how true that is considering its a pretty busy hotel.
Not very likely. This also begs the question of how long a period he was bringing up supplies, no one is going to notice a dude going in and out once every hour.

>>209741
i thought i've read he was there for several days since he's been with a prostitute there before, so i guess if he carries up all the equipment over several days it seems more normal.

i still think there's either some hidden motive or otherwise secret piece of info to it

>>209847
He probably had everything disassembled which would make it easier to carry in, and if he was a regular there nobody would notice tons of big bags (people carry a lot of big luggage bags in hotels, it's normal). Regarding motive, I think this guy might have just been an angry asshole that took his rage out at random people, maybe taking his inspiration from Charles Whitman. I really don't believe any conspiracy theories that try to use mass shootings, it's way too big to pull off and has accomplished nothing in the USA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkF8lmICYis live revelation of the reason behind the rise in mass shootings and what aliens/UFO's really are

new fave thread

have any of you seen Unacknowledged?

>>209886
>The behind-the-scenes research and high-level meetings convened by Dr. Steven Greer will expose the degree of illegal, covert operations at the core of UFO secrecy. From briefings with the CIA Director, top Pentagon Generals and Admirals, to the briefing of President Obama via senior advisor John Podesta, chairman of the Hillary Clinton Campaign

Someone better alert the Pizzagate dudes Podesta is involved with Aliens too now.

>>209891
spoilered racebait is still racebait

>>209891
It all makes sense now, the (((ALIENS))) are from Israel.

>>209896
Teach me more about the Jewspiracy and how they are related to the antarctic alien bases, I want to help defend Humanity™.

>>209905
>as i said, it wouldn't surprise me if aliens were involved in collaboration with jewish billionaires
lol'd

so i guess this isn't an actual conspiracy theory thread if actual conspiracies are deleted by mods, it's just post your nuts stories thread(Ban evading)

>>209888
Truth be told, aliens are a gigantic psyop aimed at controlling us human cattle. So someone whose involved in controlling human cattle through a more socially acceptable psyop (politics) having association with someone who is involved in the psyop that gives (((you know who))) access to limitless human experimentation without consequences. The tales of DUMBs, like Dulce Base, may be truer than we realize; just filtered through the oddly specific lens of ayylmaos. Reptilians are just humans using their reptilian brain and may "shapeshift" in that the person is shocked that someone could change to fit whatever the situation requires.

>>209891
> to give communism another try
I actually only exist because of communism, and its hatred of my people requiring us to leave, so it's something I know a bit about. That is the plan though, one world communist state. In the 60's it was revealed that the next revolution is the last revolution. Not by Alex Jones types, but by scientists and people like Aldous Huxley, because the ultimate conclusion of the fields of propaganda, pharmacology and brainwashing was that an enslaved people who love their enslavement will never resist in any meaningful way. Now look around you, what do you see? It's now or never, so the way I live my life is: anything that will harm those who have named themselves my enemies, in any way, is good enough.

>>209893
Basically, yeah. Aliens don't real, but humans willing to do anything to get an edge over those they consider below them sure do.

>>209736
>>209741
>>209783

About the Vegas shooting, I’ve read somewhere that the guy was under MK-Ultra (Delta programming - look it up) as he appeared normal to people even those who were close to him and didn’t have much of a military background to begin with either.

I’m not sure how much of this is reliable but the site is fun to read nonetheless:

https://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/las-vegas-shooting-another-odd-batman-connection/

Oh and Cory Feldman wants to out the child molesters in Hollywood…

https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/corey-feldman-targeted-by-death-threats-after-announcing-project-to-expose-hollywood-pedophilia-ring/

>>209976
What do you guys think of this? It's from Bill Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse (1991)

>>209979
honestly I believe this. not to sound like one of those tinfoil hat theorists but it just makes too much sense to not be true

>>209981
Bill was a good man that deserved much better than he got. He was murdered in coldblood for doing his best to expose what he saw in his time in US Naval Intelligence. He had a radio show (the Hour of the Time) and gave a lot of lectures, if you're into that sort of thing. I'd suggest starting with his Mystery Babylon series, but be the filter and not the sponge. The guy in link related did a pretty good job of shortening the episodes relating to America's Assignment With Destiny.

>>209993
>>209981
Forgot that youtube embed replaces an image

>>209994
>>209994
And that's when I realized I'm retarded and should stop posting.

>>209976
> I’ve read somewhere that the guy was under MK-Ultra (Delta programming - look it up)
I'm well aware of it, the unabomber is a notable example. But I am not seeing any real connection to the Vegas shootings.

>>209979
It makes a lot of sense…

>>209996
What about the columbine kids? The parents and “old school” media back then blamed Marilyn Manson’s music for the shootings because “the lyrics made ‘em do it” or something. Don’t the CIA use songs to torture people or some shit? Unless this type of mind control is still practiced to rather than disbanded after the 70’s

>>209997
>Don’t the CIA use songs to torture people or some shit?
Yes? But that's very different. They use it to sleep deprive them so they're easier to trick and exploit. Sensory and food deprivation are applied in the same manner. I don't think it's reasonable to assume Columbine was the result of anything other than sadistic teenagers.

An example of what happened to the Unabomber was that they were supposed to write about their dreams basically, then were verbally torn apart. Then on top of that they were forced to watch videos of them being verbally abused from before. Keep in mind this kid was a math prodigy, so he was only 16~ if memory serves and was already a bit out there.

Now granted, the guy who did this to him only worked for the OSS, so it isn't quite MKultra (they were more about drugs and hypnosis). But I think it is a good example of what they were willing to do.

>>210002
A “Manchurian candidate” perhaps? I suppose it’s safe to say that the guy who shot up a uni in Austin after a bad headache wasn’t MK’ed either,

>>209729
All conspiracy theories make people sound stupid to people who aren't interested in them. Doesn't make them less appealing to us though.

I personally like the Mandela Effect and I think it caught on so quickly because they're quick to read and make you think. Most conspiracy theories can take a very long time to explain, involve a lot of research and include various different documents/photos/articles you have to browse over in order to get the full effect of the theory. I think that's part of the fun in being a conspiracy theorist but at the same time every now and then it's great to read a little mindfuck that doesn't require too much effort to understand.

What do you guys think of the Kenneka Jenkins case? I can't stop thinking about it.

For those who don't know, Kenneka attended a party in a hotel and never returned home. Her friends called her mother at 4am saying that they had her phone and car but she was not with them. Straight away, her mother went to the hotel where the hotel staff refused to search the hotel without a report from the police, which could have been wasting precious time if Kenneka was in danger. Her body was then found in a freezer in a part of the hotel that wasn't open to the public yet. People online sifted through video footage of the party where the people present seemed to be under the influence of drugs. People were noting how Kenneka could be seen reflected in the sunglasses of a girl filming herself. Others mentioned hearing a scream at one point during the video and the girl filming herself notices and turns the music up.

At that point, people were speculating if Kenneka had been raped and murdered by some of the guys present at the party while the girls were listening to music in the next room and trying to ignore what was going on. Also the possibilty that it was part of some kind of Satanic ritual came up but I always think those claims are hilarious. People also suspected the hotel staff since they wouldn't search the hotel initially and didn't provide CCTV footage to her distressed mother.

Then police when police got involved, a policeman made a strange comment about how she probably locked herself in the freezer (which was before there was a postmortem was done and it was too early to say that was what happened). Her mother had a really hard time persuading the police to actually do anything and go through CCTV footage, her family had to knock on hotel doors themselves since neither the hotel or police were attempting to search for her. Her mother said that if Kenneka walked into the freezer, she wanted proof and to rule out any foul play. They released the footage to the public of Kenneka stumbling drunk through a hallway alone before her death which really upset me. There was no footage of her actually walking into the freezer so there was a gap left in the story for a lot of people. Hotel staff also released videos online saying that it was impossible for a girl who couldn't even stand to open a heavy freezer that takes a lot of effort to open and that even if she did, it's possible to press a button to get out for safety reasons.

Other conspiracy theorists mentioned seeing figures in the background of the footage in the hallway but I don't see that. People also pointed out that it looks like she's following someone or something, since she's walking purposefully. I've been drunk to the point of blacking out but if I was in a creepy, unpopulated hallway in a restricted area, I'm pretty sure I'd turn back. Not sure what drew her to walking that far or why she would have touched the freezer at all.

Eventually they said that she died from the cold but there are so many suspicious factors to the case and the police have closed it. The latest update was that the police released photos of her body the way it was found in the freezer and it was said that her shirt was lifted up and it exposed her breasts. I think there's way more to the story and I think the whole thing is just so sad for her poor mother, who did everything she could to try to find her daughter and was ignored.

>>210025

Thanks for posting this, anon. This scared the crap out of me. Time to do some research. Interesting!

It reminds me a little of the Elisa Lam case in the overall weirdness of the whole thing.

>>210029
Yeah a lot of people compared it to the Elisa Lam case. Both women couldn't have possibly gotten into the places they were found by themselves. Plus the footage of them acting strangely before their deaths.

Here's the video that was originally posted to Facebook iirc that everyone was picking apart. At 3.09 you can hear the "scream" or what some people says sounds like "help me" or crying. The girl filming immediately turns the music on.

I just feel so bad for her mother.

>>210032

Haha, I'm actually afraid to watch this! Okay, I'll watch with the sound off first time. This is too creepy.

>>210032
Is there a transcript of this video anywhere?

>>210025
Seeing stories like this pisses me off. I feel so powerless
It's just like with the Las Vegas shooting. I don't believe 100% in any government theories but I do believe the hotel is trying their hardest to cover their asses. The changing timelines, over rehearsed press conferences, lack of security footage, witnesses dying and/or being ambushed by hotel lawyers and the list goes on.
These cases always have the hotels trying to limit police involvement so they can keep going on business as usual. I mean it's easier to say a girl walked into a freezer or into a water tank than to say a vicious murder happened. And if anyone points to suspicious footage people downplay it by blaming drugs or alcohol.
Cases like this make me sick

>>210029
That's the same thing I was saying to friend about the case. If this isn't the work of the staff, then we definitely have something supernatural on our hands. Surprisingly though, none of the paranormal changes I watch covered it yet. I'm hoping someone really gets to the bottom of this.

>>210189
Apparently the police confiscated cellphones and laptops everyone who was there and removed any videos before and during the shootings.

>>210377
The case has been abruptly closed.

>>210377
You think ghosts murdered people…Jesus Christ, anon.
Why would ghosts murder people even if they did exist?

>>209888
is that an anime Alex Jones?

>>210498
Where did I say ghost killed her? I said paranormal. Like the Elisa Lam case.

>>210385
Sounds extremely suspicious.

>>210536
Last Man, pretty good show. Its a prequel to a french comic series (apparently 8chan /co/ is working on a fan translation, only half of them are already in english).

Have you guys heard about the recent shooting in Texas? 26 people got killed including children at a church outside of Houston by a lone ex-chairforce gunman before he himself got shot by a mysterious rando.

A month barely passed after the Vegas shooting and whoever’s in charge is still going at it because guns.

>>210961
do you think it was the blacks, the jews, or the libtards who framed that poor white man? :(

>>210972
It was the kebabs, Isis dunnit!

God bless America!

>>210961
I'm convinced these events are all distractions for something. Paradise papers dropped but every one is going to be focused on the Texas shooting. Also, the shooter was ex-military? Hmmm…

I love reading about how astrological events affect current events.

>>210981
If you wanna get a little more crazy, “blood sacrifices”, and to reel in more people for the gun ban before martial law kicks in (bcuz guns r bad!!!)

Remember the Dallas shooting from last year? Another guy from the chairforce (or army idr) shot a bunch of cops in the name of Islam. Possible MK-Ultra anyone?

>>210547
the elisa lam case was straightforward - mental illness, not supernatural.

Can confirm there are chemtrails being spread.

Earlier I saw a plane doing it while at school, I would’ve taken a picture of the plane but it sped away and I didn’t want to like an autist while doing so.

Anyway, I did take pictures before leaving.

>>213072
Yet that doesn’t explain how she got inside the water system, firefighters had to cut the damn thing open before they could get her out.

>>214063
Fuck I meant “sprayed” in my previous post

>>214063
>>214064
…these are called contrails. Short for condensation trails.
Have you ever been on a commercial plane before, anon? You can literally see them form off the wing tips and engines due to water and engine vapor. It happens at low temps during high altitude.

This is like saying vapor from old steam trains was some kind of government conspiracy too. It's simply a function of the mechanics. How about car exhaust?

>>214094
Forgive me, I’ve never been on an airplane before. Maybe you’re right and I’m exaggerating but there were a lot of those trails crossing each other out in the open when first walking out.

>>214576
Oh I’ve read about this case, didn’t know Frank Olsen had a kid.

There’s also a Netflix series about the murder of a nun from a Maryland private school as a cover-up for their pedo-agenda and that case leads directly to the Vatican.

Has anyone seen it yet?

>>214927
I've seen it and it fucked me up real good tbh. I'm not 100% sure what really happened in that case, but there's obviously some weird shit going on. Won't spoil it too much, but I really recommend watching it.

Hearing people talk about conspiracy theories usually makes me cringe, but God, could it be called a 'theory' at this point? Just go to Wikipedia and type in the names of 10 major corporations, government institutions or influential organizations off the top of your head and surprise surprise, what rare demographic of people does the leader/CEO/chairman belong to? Yeah, you probably already guessed it.

I don't even know if they are somehow connected to some "Illuminati" or to "the Freemasons" or whatever and to be honest I'm not even gonna pretend to know, but it can't be denied how influential these people are.

>>215358
Which is more believable anyway? Illuminati or Freemasons.

Last I heard, Yale has a weird ass club named Skull and Bones, Bush Sr. & Jr. we’re in it.

>>210024
Nah false equivalence.
Retarded shit like flat earth, David Icke's reptilians, and this Mandela effect crap makes people recoil in disgust towards all theories of conspiracy, when there are very important conspiracies that are very likely true (for example 9/11 and JFK).

I was unsure whether to post this here or celebcow.

my conspiracy theory is that borzoi chan actually loves borzois and wanted to see more of them and we all walked into her trap(necro)

i think elisa lam was a sacrifice and was chosen because of her mental health track record
https://www.themostcommonthemostdeadly.com/single-post/2015/11/19/What-is-the-connection-between-LAMELISA-Test-for-TB-and-Elisa-Lam-Canadian-Tourist-who-was-found-dead-in-a-Water-Tank-in-the-Cecil-Hotel
what do you guys think?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Project
the government is scary
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/use_of_voice_of_god_weapon_syste
https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-tactical/cia-heart-attack-gun/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Midnight_Climax

do you guys believe in this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm75Ie5xNeo(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

>>663222
Mods are Borzois confirmed

Can we revive this thread? Or have a thread dedicated to certain conspiracies like JFK or just make a new one?

>>714773
there is a tinfoil thread right here >>>/ot/636795

>>714776
thanks anon.