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Yeah I have a bit of theeses feelings too… But only with a certain type of men who send me bad vibes.
A few of the mens I've met in my life have been lovely and funny and very respectfull, but the majority have litteraly been dicks on legs.
Some of them act so entitled towards girls… I just want to get all the girls to piss them off.
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I went out the other week with some friends to a pub in my town and as it was birthday I spent some time doing my self up as I had some new clothing and getting all pretty and everybody bought me drinks and it would have been an overall pleasant night aside from the majority clientèle.
I have a habit when I go out at night with friends of breaking away from the main group and walking around, standing on my own, surveying things from a distance and isolating myself in general because I do enjoy my own company, and fucking hell, just men.
Literally every couple of steps I'd catch the gaze of some scab who was eye-fucking the shit out of me with a big shit-eating grin on his face, or I'd slip through a tight crowd and I'd hear "ey baby how are u", "come on luv' come and av' a dance" and one guy who had the audacity to put his hand my shoulder and try and drag me back when I ignored him.
I actually stopped wearing heels at weekends completely because I realised that given statistics there is a chance I'm likely to be attacked by a male in the future and I need to be able to escape if that happens.
This actually happened to me whilst I was at university last year whilst I was walking back alone at 3:00 in the morning. I have to walk down an empty, isolated path to get back to my accommodation and I saw the outline of a man stood off to the side of the path a few metres ahead of me. I felt my stomach tighten up in fear, but I'm 5'7" in stature and not exactly delicate so I decided to keep moving forward rather than turn back.
As I approached I realised he was a black guy, about the same height as me which made me relax a bit,but as he heard me approach he turned and said in a thick accent "please". I ignored him and the second I passed by him I felt a hand clamp round my left shoulder and a fumble at my side to get a hand around my waist and him begin pulling me back towards an underpass that was off to our right.
Fortunately I was already fired up with adrenaline and without thinking I twisted my body round and smashed my elbow into his face and then took off sprinting down the path. I managed to reach the gate to my accommodation in 2 minutes. I still feel sick considering what might have happened if I'd chosen to wear heels that night.
That experience has really cemented it for me that if most men knew that they could get away with abusing and raping women en-masse without future consequence or punishment, they would.
Has anybody else ever experienced something like this before?
Picture related, the almost-rape underpass.
I also want to add, any girls here, if you're walking back alone at night in a compromising area and you see a man/men ahead of you, don't chance it like me, you discreetly turn your ass around and find a more open route, even better if it has houses/flats nearby so you can call for help if required.
I was stupid for trying to plough on ahead but I only did so because the path I'd just come from was carved into a hill and so was surrounded on either side by high brick walls with nowhere to go but forward and back. If I'd turned back and there was another rape-dude at the top I'd have been triple rekt.
I really do hate men honestly. Outside of my family that is. They cause literally all the problems in the world yet you have mras who are convinced women rape and abuse men more often. They bitch and whine that if they say hello to a woman they'll be thought of as creepy but are the first to blame rape victims because they were "asking for it".
Honestly that's my worst fear like what >>21630
said I would be terrified. I wish feminists would stop bitching anytime advice to avoid rape is given out "bla bla teach men not to rape" well men know they aren't supposed to but those who want to will do it anyone. We need to teach women how to protect themselves too many are naive.
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Yeah honestly I have considered getting a locking switchblade to protect myself in the future but if I ever got caught with it by police, regardless of the fact I've been attacked and sexually abused by paedo men when I was a kid and was clearly carrying it for protection, I would get btfo to fill those sweet, sweet conviction rates.
What I did discover however was SAP gloves. They're weighted-knuckle gloves with steel plating and lead bearings sewn into them.
They look like ordinary gloves but with very little effort you can easily break a jaw or crack somebody's skull open with them.
Simply pop these on when you're walking home alone at night (or during the day, w/e) and boom, your fists become a formidable weapon, just work on your punches a bit and learn how to feint and you're solid.
the "i hate all men" thing is so 2014 tumblr
no one cares
Removing captilisation and punctuation in the second post to disguise your writing style is one of the oldest tricks in the book sweety.
why does it need to be pointed out tho? people can post multiple times lol
this thread is cancer and tbh no one really cares
Dude you're making it painfully obvious that you're the only one with a problem in this thread. The samefagging is pitifully obvious.
Nobody fucking cares if you disagree with the OP topic, this thread is FOR the women that have had negative experiences with the male gender.
If you love men so much go make a "I love men, they never do anything wrong" thread and stop shitting up this one.
Never said 'I loved men' either.
Christ, it's just repetitive to see the same whiny feminist bullshit all over the web. Can't you take this shit to tumblr where it belongs?
Either way, fuck offffffffffff
Feminist? Trust me, I don't think too highly of women either.
It's sad that you can't take someone's words at face value without projecting all of your bullshit onto it.
Go make your own fucking thread then and stop destroying this one. Nobody cares about you pro-male" attitude.
You obviously have bigger issues than us if you can't possibly bear women discussing this subject without trying to shove your massive Shylock nose into it to cry about how you want to get bukkake'd take a 1000 dicks in your mouth, chuff and anus.
Everybody just report her/probably him.
Same here tbh. I want to have sex with guys, but be tender and loving with other girls.
Most people are shit, regardless of gender tho
I think some people have issues opening up with guys. Like they won't get it?
Girls are nice, you get them and they get you. But they still stab you in the back and are just as hurtful probably more powerful than guys, emotionally anyway.
It's cool to read about people experiencing the same kind of attraction than me.
I think that I can have really deep connection with girls in the friend/erotic level and with guys it's very animalistic, more like we are made to have sex and that's it.
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My experiences with men have gotten to the point where I'm no longer physically attracted to them.
I'm not sure that I ever even was, like I dated 2 guys when I was younger, one of them who turned out to be a complete pig and the other who is still my best friend to date, but overall I despise men by default because I expect them to behave badly from experience.
I have mostly male friends but sexually I prefer other girls.
Girls are soft and cute and aesthetic and I want to stroke their hair and cuddle and roll around in bed with them whilst tickling them and kissing :>
Men are just. Eurgh.
I think it depends on the person you're with anon, guy or girl. What kind of bond you have, interests, how close, comfort that kind of thing.
But I can understand, with a girl it's nice and slow. However even though she understands, in the back of my mind I wonder if she ever found me gross or just something which puts her off. Same as I would with a guy. With me there is always slight amount of doubt.
I feel like… with a girl, I won't get anywhere.. A life if you know what I mean? Not saying a guy can give you that. But… I don't see a future with another girl. Probably just a close relationship or fling but not marriage or a family.
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I feel the exact same way. I want girls to love me and I want to be close to them but I know that I would fear their judgment if we ever get naked in full light.
I just always have such intense relationships with girls, we are like soulmate, but yeah sex and relationships, it's so much more. >>21676
I would like to have sex with a cute nice girl skinny buy still a bit soft (if she is too skinny I would feel like shit) like pic related.
You sound like you're describing me :>
I'm a tomboy with a feminine appearance.
L O N D O N
Men abhor women because we're "privileged whores" but tbh they're just salty that we don't get forced into marriage any more with them to become broodmares and houseslaves and that they can't away with shit like marital rape any more.
farmers, pls pls lets not make this a man's thing
concentrate on men and lesbian sex only please
im not really interested in the misandry part only the girl on girl thing kek
(why is their no lesbian thread)
So go make a lesbian thread then?
Don't try to tell me what to do in my own thread m8.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I've lost weight, I'm hourglass shaped and 'full' I guess. But I don't think I could be with a skinny girl. I just… I like slender bodies but I would feel like I'm not good enough or she would be like "no whale pls stop".
Plus I like girls with a bit more thigh, bum and tum I guess anyway. They've always had that whenever I've bothered with girls. It's pretty cute :v
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I know what you mean but as another girl who likes girls I am partial to "softer", chubbier bodies with a bit of flesh to grab and plunge your face into :3
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Yeah but at the same time if she was to "big" I would be the shallow one and be like "hm no bye whale-chan".
That's why I fear reaction of girls smaller than be I guess, cause I am a cunt myself.
Yep, same here. It's a vicious cycle. It's shallow but it happens.
Preference I guess.
Yeah, I've basically given up on heels, hell even skirts and dresses cos of this shit.
Men are shooting themselves in the foot really. They could just look at girls in skirts respectfully and enjoy, but nah they gotta comment and start shit and it puts off girls.
'trash bags' kek
I do think I understand what you mean Anon.
I'm tall-er and I have a thicker, curvier frame even when I'm underweight. All my fat just goes straight to me ass, hips and bust.
I used to despise it and always wanted one of those muscular, athletic bodies so at 5'7" I starved myself to like 102lbs but even then I still had big tits and a wide pelvis which made me look super curvy.
I think the best option is to just own your shape and dress to accentuate the best features of it.
Generally people like partners who are unlike themselves physically so you never know, smaller, slighter women with lithe frames may actually prefer a plumper, womanly frame.
What attracts people more than anything is confidence tho.
Yeah OK, let's warp this into a race thing when all guys do this shit.
even Muslims know that women who wear burqas are oppressed by their husbands. (they will deny it) whiteys oppress women too but it's the opposite (they will let a woman dress like a whore). But the trashbags are in the minority and instead of insulting them you can sympathize with them you asshole just like you would sympathize a whore.
I feel sorry for muslim women tbh, you should all read "sold" which is by a muslim girl who was sold by her father unknowingly in the 80s, taken to yemen married off to some old man and her sister but the mother never knew about it
its so sad guys, like i teared up and she managed to get away but her sister hasn't, she's still there in yemen being a mountain cave wife
I've read enough of those books to be honest.
I don't read them any more because they work me up into such a frenzied rage regarding the male gender.
A fear or dislike of men is like the one fear that men will get super irrational about to the point of behaving like weak little bitches as soon as you mention the fact that you don't trust men in general by default.
It's like, frightened of spiders? Yeah, cool man, pretty common phobia, those fuckers are creepy.
Afraid of dogs after being bitten by a dog once? Completely normal, happens to a lot of people, EVERYBODY understands.
Go through life being periodically disrespect and abused by the male gender to the point where you've had threats of violence, rape and murder made against you and are unable to walk through the streets of a crowded town/city without experiencing some for of verbal abuse?
HOW DARE YOU, NOT ALL MEN YOU FUCKING FEMINIST, BITCH DADDY ISSUES, DADDY ISSUES MAYBE IF YOU WEREN'T SUCH A FUCKING SLUT AND STOPPED LEADING THEM ON LOL WHORE YOU HAVE LIFE ON EASY MODE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
THAT DIDN'T REALLY HAPPEN! YOU BITCHES MAKE UP THOSE STORIES FOR ATTENTION!!
>>21630>That experience has really cemented it for me that if most men knew that they could get away with abusing and raping women en-masse without future consequence or punishment, they would.
I sympathize with the rest of your post but I don't think that's true. A lot of men might do that, maybe even like 15% or more, but not most. No one I personally know is like that.
Disclaimer: I'm a guy.
>disclaimer: I'm a guy
I commend you for actually admitting you're male but you're not considering how the cumulative experiences we've all had would give us a totally different outlook to your own.
Really it's like me trying butt into issues surrounding black people when I'm white. I have no idea what it's like being black because I've never been black so it's not something I can really comment on.
The same applies with you really. It's easy to say "Oh I don't think this" when speaking in regards to an isolated issue when you have zero idea what it's like for the victims.
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No, you're imagining this entire thread. It's not actually here. You're also imagining this response.
I'd think you'd be more likely to hurt your own hands with these than the guy's face.
If you're afraid for your safety, always take a self defense or martial arts class. That would do much better for you than steel plated gloves.
I've got to agree with him to some extent, even if I suspect that 15% is a low estimate.
I DO think that many, many more men (excluding our male anon, I'm guessing) would have no problem raping someone if she was passed out or otherwise unable to give proper consent, though. They probably figure there's no harm done, either because nobody's ever taught them about consent or they're willfully ignoring what they've been told.
I live in a village, where it's typically seen as "safe". I was walking home at night and as soon as I turned the corner, there were two hooded men walking along the dark side of the road where I was. I got scared and quickly crossed the street to get near the light. I made it pretty apparent I was trying to avoid them, since for a moment I stopped to look at them before crossing. I turned around to look and both of them stopped walking, turned in my direction and were talking to each other. Then they crossed the street and were walking in my direction.
Thankfully my apartment was right there. As soon as I turned to my apartment's parking lot, they turned back around. It was terrifying and my heart felt like it was pounding out of my chest.
From your description I've no doubt they had something sinister on their mind.
They probably saw you and thought you'd be an easy meal.
They're tactical/defence gloves and most bouncers are required to wear them.
They're really good.
Give them to a weak girl, it's going to increase the force of her punch.
Give them to a strong girl, it's going to increase the force of her punch.
Training is always beneficial, but not everybody has the time nor money to take that up. Knives in the UK are illegal to carry on your persons without reasonable cause and applies in most states of the US too. SAP gloves offer a legal, safe and discreet leg-up against would be attackers.
I'm 5'7" and 160lbs and have already trained in boxing, however on my own I probably wouldn't be able to beat a male who was the same height and weight as me.
Equipped with SAP gloves and a well-timed punch, I'm probably going to break his jaw or crack his skull.
A well-timed punch to the crotch? Well, it'd easily explode a testicle. Win-win.
>>21765>They probably figure there's no harm done, either because nobody's ever taught them about consent or they're willfully ignoring what they've been told.
I'm going to have disagree again. I don't think that's true, at least not in the United States. There is no "teaching" necessary. Do women have to be "taught" not to shove things up the ass of a passed out guy? Any adult knows these things are incredibly wrong.
The line is a bit more gray if both parties are just really drunk and not actually unconscious, but no ethical guy would ever consider trying to fuck someone who was clearly unconscious. Maybe a lot of guys aren't ethical, but I still think the majority are.
Any guy who's fucking an unconscious girl is not lacking education. They know exactly what they're doing and they don't care, because they only care about themselves and not what kind of pain they might inflict on others. Here the debate might just be what percentage of guys actually don't care. I don't know the answer, but no one here knows either. Anyone who thinks it's actually more than 50% of men is clearly wrong. Maybe in Kuwait or Uganda or something, but definitely not in the US.
Disclaimer: Same male anon. I know I haven't been in any of your situations, but blanket statements about whole populations can still be debated.
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It happened. Lolcow is now tumblr, edgy feminists included
Agreed, it's all kicking off now. Girls complaining about how shitty their ex boyfriend is or how they got followed home once (obv I don't agree with any of these) but just saying.
Fuck the men who have actually done good or are alright, yeah fuck em'. They're all evil.
Women are amazing beautiful and wonderful, they would NEVER hurt you kek
Regardless though, anyone can be just as bad. Just as evil though.
But nevermind what I say, ALL men obviously ugh.
Give it time and it WILL turn into tumblr (espesh now PULL is gone) and it's all a bunch of catty young women backing each other up.
Some women have shit experiences with men and some don't. Depends I guess, end of.
thats true anon
again its allll mens fault
>>21888>You are more likely to be killed by a black person than a white person.
But this is objectively wrong. On all sides, intraracial crime rates are much higher than interracial ones.
This means that most black murders are black on black, while white ones are usually white on white.
I legitimately believe that yes, given murder/rape statistics, that you should be more on edge around black men initially of you feel uncomfortable.
Look, it's nice that you like to look at the world this way, but I'm not going to potentially put my life in the line to satisfy some politically correct fantasy.
Imagine if Elin Krantz had been a bit more cautious on the night she was brutally raped and murdered, she may not have met the abhorrent fate she did.
HAHA I FUCKING KNEW IT
BUTTHURT MALE SAVAGE DETECTED
It's not extremism when men have an extensive history of brutalising women en masse and women have virtually none.
That's like, the opposite of extremism. That's basic logic.
Yeah, robbed and killed by other men.
Most of you are beasts.
whats wrong with you?? I never blamed all men
i will say I dont feel scared walking alone at night seeing a woman pass by. If I see a man I am much more guarded
I feel this way. Men are generally physically more capable if they wanted to hurt you >>21900
how fucking retarded are you?? I Dont get your shitty logic. prob troll
Ignore them. They're either a butthurt male or an "anti-sjw" or both. Same with this person >>21851
the world would be boring if it was all female though cmon be HONEST it would be boring as fuck and catty
we'd end up having butch thugs on the loose and catty crazy bespeckled women murders lmao
it wouldn't be that great just as shit
and the self hatred "omg her body"
and the taunting
and tbh being around nothing but women for so long gets tiring
we need men anyway to lumber heavy shit about for us and do the road works
half of you lot probably wouldnt want to do messy ass jobs like that either lmao
A world with no men:
also,>free ride functioning as a broodmare>initiative-less bum
is that really how you view voluntary motherhood? you should talk that out with someone… sounds like someone hurt u
I don't need to know any more, I already know that you're a selfish bitch who's more concerned about squirting out her genetic legacy even to the detriment of a planet that's already grossly overpopulated.
There's no human right to reproduce Anon.
I hope you can work out of this dark place anon. Enjoy your nihilism, your unfulfilling career, and your cats. You can still shitpost when you are a lonely old woman :-)
And I'm sure you're doing your part leaving zero impact on the environment since you are so self righteous about that, telling other people not to have kids and all.
I don't expect you to understand this but the US population is decreasing because people are having fewer children. Replacement rate is a little over 2 kids per family and families are no longer economically able to afford this, or people are choosing not to start families at all.http://www.indexmundi.com/united_states/age_structure.html
The trend of not meeting replacement rates is worrying because it probably will not be reversed. This is changing the human experience from one based around family to one based around self.
>enjoy your nihilism, your unfulfilling career, and your cats
I don't like cats m8, I'm going to have ferrets or some shit.
Tell you what I am going to enjoy, I'm going to enjoy having lots of money to lavish on myself, buy cocktails and a holiday home where I can bask in the sun all day instead of wasting it having children when there are already plenty of good ones without parents sitting alone in homes.
I feel sorry for you that you've been brainwashed into believing that your life only has meaning if you reproduce.
What a perfect little wife you'll make. Shame you're going to end up poor because of it.
The metaphysical importance to me of being a mother trumps any kind of material wealth. I actually work and have to put off having kids for the foreseeable future in order to afford them and I will probably work through their childhoods but what I wish I could do is have a garden and bees and chickens and a side business while I raise them to supplement my partner's income. But I can't afford any of this without working full time and probably won't have the time and energy to do all of the above. Hopefully I can get a nest egg before my chance to even have children runs out because of biology.
If dual income weren't necessary, like 55 years ago, then I could check off those things on my bucket list without the immense struggle it would take now. Not to blog, it's just to illustrate the kinds of choices women have to make because of the realities of economics post second wave feminism.
I actually used to feel more closely to how you feel but time and experience have changed things for me, personally speaking.
K, it's just I grew up with 4 other sisters, 5 of us in total, and it was undeniably abject poverty.
Times are even worse today than when they were back then. Even if you believe having children is more important than a financially secure future, don't create a life at the risk of making them grow up through so many children like myself had to.
Get yourself stable and then consider it.
No I agree with you. I get where you're coming from. It's harder than ever.
Like 2 generations ago jobs used to pay enough for one bread winner to support a family. Now they don't, and everyone has to scrape together to make ends meet.
Shit sucks. Feminism isn't all sunshine and daisies, its far reaching effects have had a negative effect on the affordability and cohesion of families. Here's hoping I can get my financial shit together before menopause. God knows I'm working hard enough lol
Honestly I've noticed that the more time I spend on lolcow the more unnecessarily aggressive I become because of the constant back and forth bickering.
After a while you start to anticipate aggression so you just start being a cunt to get in there first, if that makes sense.
idk if anybody else has noticed themselves doing this.
I hate men a lot and I don't apologize for it. I was raised Belarusian and thats just how we are. We don't like our men and we don't trust them.
Men are repulsive and tbh I think the world would be better off without 90% of them. Granted, I think most women suck ass too because they accept/coddle rancid male behaviour.
Yeah I can definitely relate to that. There are a few posters here who I can recognize from their aggressive post style lol. They kind of set the tone unfortunately. And also I was kind of bringing up stuff that isn't really talked about or politically correct so I kind of anticipated a cranky response anyway. I'm impressed at how you relented on the cattiness and you're actually very introspective and measured. And I was definitely being pretty snide too. BREAK THE CYCLE LOLCOW lol
This fucking thread actually makes me kind of mad though, like, how can you make a culture out of hating 50% of the population based on anecdotal experiences. But yeah that's not directed at you…!
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Disclaimer: I am White Cis male (TRIGGER WARNING
! OMG), albeit gay>>21844>>21851
Bingo. You called it. The tumblr crowd has leaked into here.>>21857
Clearly you don't understand modern SJW logic. Only white cisgender men are bad. Women, and everyone else are oppressed and therefore blameless.>>21864
You are right, but in today's political atmosphere this is perfectly acceptable to do, provided its the "Right" demographics. (i.e whites, men)>>21872
Over generalization. This would be like saying, all blacks can't resist mugging whites. Yet somehow in this political climate it is acceptable to say this about men. Also i'm sure the men who have been molested or sexually abused by women wouldn't agree with you. >>21888>>21895
Nailed it. You're exactly right. >>22107
Good. Then stay in Belarus then. We don't need anymore man hating feminists in the west. Your lot has fucked up our society enough.
Okay so reading through all these, made me realize just how fucked of a society we are. We live in this culture of fear, which the feminists help perpetuate. Watch out for the evil men! They're all rapists, etc etc… Gender relations are gonna be fucked up for at least a generation. Thanks a lot.
Also, lol, I kinda find it ironic that there is thread dedicated to man hatred on here. Neither gender is perfect, but I have to say this imageboard is perfect display of everything wrong with modern day western women. (The cattyness, backstabbing, passive aggressiveness, back talking, gossip, etc)
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MALES GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Tumblr feminists, and contemporary feminists in general, are complete retards. I certainly wouldn't call myself a feminist. However, I do think that the majority of men utterly despise women. They won't say it anywhere they think women would see it, but leave them on their own and it comes out. This is why I choose not to associate with them on a personal level. I respect men for the work they do – the edgy ~kill all men~ shit is childish, and none of them even mean it – but I see no reason to engage with them deeply in my personal life.
Of course, women lead on and encourage men's behaviour, and I'm not too fond of most women either. But with them, at least, there is a little more in common, and a little less thinly veiled hatred.
>However, I do think that the majority of men utterly despise women. They won't say it anywhere they think women would see it, but leave them on their own and it comes out.
Norah Vincent wrote a book about how she dressed up as a man and hung out with a bowling team for a year. She had the exact opposite to say.
According to Wikipedia, Socrates said this:
"Misanthropy develops when without art one puts complete trust in somebody thinking the man absolutely true and sound and reliable and then a little later discovers him to be bad and unreliable … and when it happens to someone often … he ends up … hating everyone."
I feel that sums up this thread nicely. Yes, that's victim-blaming.
its the guy from >>22109
r9k is fucking cancer. I won't argue with that. I'm /pol/ack and we want to throw all of r9k in the gas chamber, lol
I can see why you'd think that though. I think men aren't used to being on the defensive like this so it manifests in weird ways. I think the new wave of feminists has just fucked up gender relations and have made both men and women….. "Weird" to put it nicely.
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I think a lot of it is the fault of third wave feminism. I agree slightly with what some MRA's say (i.e over custody battles which really unfairly favour women,etc) but over all its a shitty movement that I dislike for the same reasons i dislike feminists.
The need to point out "oh pity me! I'm a victim" which feminists do really well, and its worked for them, so I think MRA's/MGTOW's look at this, and think, well its worked well for feminists, lets try it for men.
Unfortunately it's unbearable, I could make a million Neckbeard and fedora jokes about that crowd but I won't.
It's ashame most feminists arent rational like someone for example, Ch sommers.
I really think this whole tumblr, man hating, SJW thing has really fucked up gender relations, and it will be up to the next generation to fix it.
Either way, I don't have to deal with it, but it does bother me as a matter of principle. Oh well, thank god I'm gay, lol.
>>22098>Tell you what I am going to enjoy, I'm going to enjoy having lots of money to lavish on myself, buy cocktails and a holiday home where I can bask in the sun all day instead of wasting it having children when there are already plenty of good ones without parents sitting alone in homes.
This. Children are such a drain on you financially and the world is way too over populated as it is.
Women would be much happier doing what they want to do instead of being stuck dependant on a man. Its dangerous too for instance what if he turns out be abusive? You are 100% financially dependant on him because you gave up college/ your job to raise kids and if you divorce you can't get a job good enough to support your kids or pay child support. Women who want to be housewives are living in a fantasy land. This scenario happens more often than people realize. Being so dependant on another human being is not good.
dont forget the chinese
those beady little fuckers breed like rabbits
not if im gonna be eternally surrounded by bitch women
lolcow is a perf example
i am a bitch too but if i had to live with it
>>22319>Women would be much happier doing what they want to do instead of being stuck dependant on a man. Its dangerous too for instance what if he turns out be abusive? You are 100% financially dependant on him because you gave up college/ your job to raise kids and if you divorce you can't get a job good enough to support your kids or pay child support. Women who want to be housewives are living in a fantasy land. This scenario happens more often than people realize. Being so dependant on another human being is not good.
Wat, you are making sweeping generalizations about both men and women. What you are describing is not universal by any means. It's certainly not impossible to find a man who isn't abusive and is respectful… some degree of judgment of character comes into play here. There are loads of wonderful, marriageable men out there.
Divorce rates have never been this high before, which leaves both parties to fend for themselves financially.. In fact I think divorce settlements typically financially favor women. No one actually needs
eachother in order to get by at this point so the impetus to work things out is… gone. Thanks feminism.
Anyway not sure if you are super young or a little bit dumb or have been super traumatized somehow, or brainwashed by the fucked up post modern media system, based on what you said.
Have an archive snapshot then. No traffic to themhttps://archive.is/ZESPp
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yes this my thread
any other woman here who loves the male aesthetic but hates man personality? They're all vapid tbh. That's why I make it my duty to tie them up and whip them so I can see their cute faces in pain but once they actually start talking to me about anything I am in disgust.
Also, fuck, that's some bad shooping on the ropes. Normally this sort of thing would turn me on but damn its badness is distracting
Eesh this thread. I hope all you summerfags fuck off back to school with your circlejerk>>22589
Fuck off. Seriously,'you're only saying that to be cool so boys will like you a hurr durrr durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr men are evil women solidarity unless you disgaree with us' You're an absolute idiot
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angry tumblrina detected
Oh I know, you can't say anything bad about women because women are perf and amazing
half are just as gross, full of shit, bitchy, rude, mean ect
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Serious question here.
How many of you are ugly, fat or have some kind of mental disorder?
This thread reeks bitterness
I doubt many are.
Plenty of hot women hate men too.
You don't have to be bitter to hate men.
Nice try though.
I'm a "hot" girl (I fucking hate that phrase though, I'm just reasonably attractive) and I revile men because they all seem to believe that they should have a natural claim to my very existence on the basis they're men, and if I refuse them, which I always do because they're fucking gross, that it'll only take a few hours of pestering me in order to change my mind, that or they'll do a 180° and call me a bitch or a whore (a whore for not fucking you, quadruple kek)
I've been in a relationship 5 fucking years and I had one guy following me around all night trying to convince me to have a secret open relationship with him, and every time I went to brush my hair out of my face or touch it to adjust it he'd say "lol r u flirting with me, girls touch their hair when they're flirting xD".
This guy was at the time a friend of my boyfriend. Fucking disgusting, I was on the verge of knocking him out.
depends on the guy, cunt types dont ever take no for an answeragain generalizing every bloke on the planet
calm ur tits
Oh right excuse me #NOTALLMEN
Didn't want to hurt Yuh Feelz
Well it's obviously not tho?
take a deep breath and count to 100
I wasn't that poster, but okay, whatever helps you sleet at night, bitch.
Seriously, this thread is nothing but 'If you disagree you must be a dude or a dick thirsty whore' Fuck off with your backwards fucking logic. Some people prefer men as their friends, some people prefer women. Omggg! Preference! Opinions that differ from my ownnn! Oh god! Won't someone think of the hivemind?!
This. There are no problems men face in society that are literally created by women. Prison rape? Committed by horny, disgusting men. Toxic masculinity? Created and perpetuated by men who despise anything feminine. The idea of men not being able to be raped by women? Created by horny men who think their weird, sugarcoated rape fantasies translate to reality. They could sort all these things out for themselves easily, but instead they want to bitch that feminism isn't helping them (because, you know, men benefiting has to be the focal point in everything).
Why don't any of those MRA/Meninist/whatever the fuck r9k-tier RoK bullshit groups ever try to rally against prison rape culture, which mainly affects men, or try to put together organizations and safe spaces for men and boys who were molested/raped by women? Because they don't care. They just want to complain about shit and put women down.
I'm not a misandrist at all, but things like this are really cumbersome.
Exactly, everyone on here is just now complaining about trannies/all men rape/lol when you say "not all men" COS OBV all men ofc/bitch/cry/u cant go out at night cos men (not some men but ALL MEN obv)/educate u wiv der logic cos wimmin r amazing and the best lol
this thread is stressful
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>all these butthurt chicks who keep complaining about this thread
Keep worshiping that cock, you just make me want to post on this thread even more.
I can understand if something bad happened to some of this lot posting here, like real fucking bad. But half the time it's just nitpicking bullshit, shit statistics, ex boyfriends and how they prefer pussy (some of them).
Yeah some women don't like guy's guts but tbh a lot of women out there do and can't imagine life without their husband/partner/boyfriend whatever the fuck he is. So yh, rid all men and fuck those women's happiness cos a bunch of selfish fuck women dislike men so badly lol.
Tumblr all over this shit is
Half of these fuckers posting worship cock, they hate men but don't mind getting shagged up the growler kek
sure there is dildos obv and fingers but nothing beats a nice juicy thick cock ;)
you all love that cock
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Ladies, remember, men are your personal dildos! A large rod to make yourself feel good. Without their dicks they are utterly worthless!
Men are just shit. Lets face it. Our dads were great men, because they were born in the age where men were supposed to be good. They went to work and made a living and treated our moms like queens and took care of their families. Maybe that's just my parents.
Now men are legit retarded. First of all, most of them don't care about physical appearance anymore - they don't dress nice, they wear cheap clothing and they are too lazy to shave their facial hair properly and instead have adopted a shitty "hobo beard" trend. They are too lazy to work out so they've started adopting the "dadbod" trend, which basically means they're all turning to fat lazy pieces of shit. Less men are going to university than ever before. If that isn't enough, most men our age are porn-addicted freaks and 20% of them suffer from porn addiction-induced erectile dysfunction, so they can't even fuck us right. And if they can get it up, they have all of these whacky fetishes that our fathers surely never had. They spend hours a day watching violent shit on the internet, or pedophiliac animus if they're part of a different subculture, and when they aren't doing that/being lazy, they're playing vidya. They don't bother learning crafts or skills and handiwork like our dads did. They cheat on their wives/girlfriends/etc and betray their families, refuse to pay child support and accept their baby momma to pay for all of it because they don't want some "gold digging ho", they complain about alimony when women are more employed and earning just as much as men now a days, so it only makes sense to split things 50-50. But they complain about this because the average 20 yo male feels entitled to that which his ancestral males EARNED. But he didn't earn it. So he sits and whines all day on reddit about bitches and whores while not realizing that the problem is in himself.
What is the point in keeping around these useless, lazy sacks of shit? They need to go. So do the gold-digging, cock-riding whores that coddle them and live off of them.
tl;dr: people these days suck, especially men, and i don't blame women for being repulsed by them
>>22728>sure there is dildos obv and fingers but nothing beats a nice juicy thick cock ;)
lol only men talk like this, they seriously believe that their tiny pork-needles are the be-all and end of the world.
Hey dude, I've eaten sausages bigger than your puny dick.
You do realise that concept is stupid? We had a thread in /pt/ in one of the old tumblr threads why it won't work with so many people pointing out the medical reasons why not but now you believe that it's possible? Lol alright.
The samefagging in this thread, wowwowowww.
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Can't we just all get along?
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You're so right. Let's not fight. Zyzz didn't die for our sins for us to bitch at each other.
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no bubbles u cant send wimmin to jail
wimmin neva do anythin wrong xo
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men must die
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tumblr feminists xoxo
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yeah well this site and tumblr and every other social media these days confirms it kek
Are you okay, sweetheart? Why does this thread trigger
you so much? </3
You know what I simply love best about the illogicality of the male gender?
When a man is single he is willing to do virtually anything to get a dick in a woman and secure his genetic legacy, he has complete disregard for the female gender, however saying that same man becomes successful and he happens to produce a daughter, he will become hyper-critical of all boys and warn her against the very type of guy he was in his youth.
Single male, no children:
>haha yeah women are whores, HEY BABY, NICE TITS, GET EM' OUT FOR THE LAAAAAADS!
Male with a daughter:
>sweety I need to warn you, all men are pigs, don't trust them, men only want one thing from you, you need to protect yourself from them, don't trust them
I love it, I love it, I love it.
cos he loves and cares about his daughter obv
It does happen but 'men rape more cos dey r programmed 2' therefore women's rape in prison doesn't count.
Forget the butch fat fucks behind the cells with mental problems, cos dey will neva harm u. I'd be fucking terrified in both a men's and women's prison tbh.
Women's ones aren't pleasant either. Half these dumblr fem shit's think they must all sit in a circle with tea and biscuits, chatting about how to make a zine with their hairy arm pits and swapping pads cos 'tru sistas du that'.
Even those fuckers start playing the 'male role' once they're locked up, scalped and bulked up.
It's twisted the fact that you need to actually sit a man down and explain to him a theoretical situation in which the woman he's harassing is his sister/mother/daughter in order to get them to empathise.
Like, they really don't see you as an actual human being and more of an object to use unless you're related to them.
Think you've been watching a little too much Sympathy for Lady Vengeance m8.
Female on female rape is so minuscule, so uneventful, it virtually doesn't even happen. There isn't even a statistic for it.
The reason men are so prone to rape each other in prison is because testosterone drives their insatiable sex drives.
It's a known fact that women are nowhere near as driven by this imperative and even so, do you know how fucking rare it is a woman to be able to orgasm through oral alone? No, that's why so many them are known to sneak dick-shaped objects so they can fuck themselves with them later.
You Google "female prison rape" and it's exclusively stories about male prisoners trying to rape female guards.
Basically you're full of shit and have no idea what you're talking about.
No need to fear for yourself in a women's prison.
Women are more supportive and less-segregational in closed environments. It's in our nature to form close-knit groups whereas men in enclosed spaces will just chimp the fuck out and try to kill each other for resources.
In any mammalian species group you will never find an excess of males simply because they will just try to fucking murder each other. It doesn't work the same way round as we're more prone to sharing and supporting one another.
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They posted this thread on /r9k/ lmao. Anyone else here slightly aroused by the amount of males with a misandry fetish that are fapping to this thread at this very moment?
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Just FYI, somebody posted lolcow to /r9k/ and they've just found a link to the board.
Prepare for an influx of pro-male/anti-women posts from hellamad robots.http://boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/21396097/im-on-a-high-traffic-image-board-that-is-almost
I actually can't believe I'm not the only one.
Men who are angry but physically incapable of fighting back at the cutest and most fun to torture sexually as they eventually tire and give in to their innate sexual compulsions.
Ever made a man cum against his will? O lawdy.
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I too have become physically repulsed by men.
When encountering men in real life I basically see them as ugly and cruel trolls. Similar to pic related.
I think it was caused by growing up in household with three brothers who were favored by my parents.
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Eh, it's a stupid dilemma. I'm romantically attracted to men, but really, the more I see people talk about issues in relationships with men, and what they are like (online and offline), the less I even consider the possibility of being with one.
Sleep around and you're a slut, "can't make a ho a housewife amirite?!". Don't put out and it's all "baby I'm sorry but I need sex and if you aren't going to do it then this relationship won't work". What the fuck? All this slut shaming is making me want to stay a virgin forever just so I don't have to put up with all the male bullshit.
On the other hand, I see how many women are in relationships and how they care for their partners, and I kinda wish I had a natural romantic attraction to women so I could be in a satisfying relationship with one. Somebody who will understand me, etc. Well, I can get off to some women in porn, so I suppose I should build that up so hopefully one day I could be with a lovely woman instead. It's that or WGTOW. I don't hate men, but I don't want the stress of being with one.
Most men are ugly that's the funny thing. They have a hissy fit online because beautiful women won't fuck them. Do they ever stop and look in a mirror and realize how fucking ugly they are?
I stumbled upon one of those retarded pick up guides on youtube and it was such bullshit. I can't believe how many bitch boys throw their money at this shit thinking itll get em chicks hahahaha.
I feel like you're one of those dudes from the /r9k/ thread.
You're not typing like…. one of us…
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It's mostly the entitlement of these shits that drives me up the wall. The vast majority have no capacity for self-improvement yet still have ridiculous aspirations when it comes to women.
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Right? It's like they try SO hard to dominant, SO hard to be a "man" but what gets their dick hard? Oh right, watching it get stepped on. They all eventually succumb to their desires of being under a woman's face. No exceptions.
So you had a bad run-in with a nigger and you decided to blame men?
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actual /r9k/ user
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Oops, meant *pussy. <3
Beauty is a spectrum. Those low on the spectrum are ugly, those high are beautiful. The middle is simply average.
Most men can not be ugly. Most men are average.
You're just a brainwashed retard who thinks that all the beautiful people you see on TV are normal.
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>>22802>Most men can not be ugly. Most men are average.
Gee you're right. Why don't these evil whores see your handsomeness anon-kun?
You can strawman as long as you want, it doesn't change reality.
You can also cherry-pick ugly faggots like that all day, still doesn't change reality.
You can stack fallacy on fallacy and it doesn't change reality.
At the end of the day you have no idea what I look like. I could be some fat neckbeard… or I could be some average dude… or I could be a hot stud. I could even be a woman, for all you know.
Whatever. I only go on /r9k/ to rally beta hordes to attack feminists.
I'm from /pol/. Got any pictures of ugly skinheads on your HD? You can find one and pretend it's me if it will make you feel better about being an ugly whore.
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2 can play that game.
I might as well stick to thai ladyboys
you can always form a friendship with a woman and live together as roommates or a partner. you don't have to sexually be attracted to one or romantically. my plan is to find a woman i get along with, and basically have a family with her, but one that isn't full-on lesbian and is okay with us having casual sex with men whenever we need intimacy.
i wish i was a lesbian too, because there is NO WAY i want a relationship with a man, ever. too much risk that you're going to be cheated on and dumped, probably like 95% risk. i wouldn't want to have kids with a man because he'll probably leave you or blow your kids college fund on hookers. a female partnership IMO is the best way to go because females bond better emotionally (which is why im not necessarily a feminist, i don't think men/women are equal and i think women hold a lot more empathy whereas most males are sociopaths and i refuse to treat them as equals.)
We're a collective hivemind.
Also men have a very distinctive typing pattern compared to women. I can't succinctly describe it but it's immediately noticeable.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MALES GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Holy shit girl you understand me completely.
Maybe we should date instead, or go on a Thelma & Louise facesitting spree.
Neckbeards are betas by nature. They don't have a way of typing because they simply follow other people. They see a typing style they like and try to emulate it, usually poorly.
Post your picture with a timestamp and tits and I'll give you my own picture with a timestamp and dick.
Posting a pic on an anon message board…
"Nothing can possibly go wrong here!"
Different anon here btw but that's an impressive skill you've got there. Being able to tell a person's looks by their typing, tell me, do you use your powers for good?
OT: Women do have more variances in facial/hair appearance than men but I doubt it effects attractiveness at all since "attractiveness" changes ever generation.
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Yeah "boring" that's why we are rejecting you. Keep telling yourself that. Lel
You guys seem like a shit-tier hivemind to me.
I think you need some men to come in here and take the lead. Go ahead and believe you can detect males by the way they type. We'll just adapt and blend in and start to usurp control.
We'll be staying for a while, methinks. Shaping a new hivemind will be rather enjoyable.
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You're only getting half a face + my cat.
No you're definitely a man.
You don't belong here, MALE.
Holy shit you're mad, look at all this peacocking and chest-puffing.
FUN FACT: no1curr.
But it's easy to type like a woman
You just say "ugh" a lot and use the word "sweetie" and/or "honey" in a condescending tone. The general rule is when you type, try to sound as sure of yourself and pretentious as possible.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS NOW ITS BEGINNING
If you'e not a catfish, please post full face pics, time stamp preferred. You'll satisfy your attentionwhore self even more if you post butt pics, abs pics, and/or anal gape pics.
I have a girlfriend. Also destroying feminism doesn't even really have anything to do with women. Everyone knows that man-hating lesbians are steering that ship. And Jews, let's not forget the Jews.
We simply wish to help white women see the world for what it is. Have a look at the first story shared in this thread. Some poor white girl gets into an altercation with a nigger and ends up hating all males as a result. She obviously needs some help coming to understand the reality of her encounter.
Niggers, and their degenerate culture, are a large driving force behind misogyny in the modern day.
Women call it "rape culture"… but I just call it "rap culture".
Try again, we despise HAES on this board and have 3 threads dedicated to tearing it apart already.
lolcow is a female paradise.
A bitchy, catty paradise.
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I can feel your anger.. makes you stronger… gives focus….
Soon your journey to the dark side will complete.
If you didn't care you wouldn't make "misandry general" threads. If you didn't care you wouldn't reply.
It's like some dumb beta from /r9k/ spamming misogynist hate all day long and then claiming he doesn't give a shit about women.
Urgh, sure you are honey>>22833
A…Am I doing it right?
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, NOW MEN ARE THE SELFPOSTING ATTENTION WHORES
IT'S BEGINNING GIRLS
FEMALE UTOPIA WHEN
You don't need to be a feminist to make fun of lulzy men.
And oh man, too bad you missed the race war last month. You would of loved it.
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>mfw they think we're fat>mfw half our front page is fitness threads, while half of theirs is about eating fucking chicken nuggets
I'm not fat but I am ugly, if that's what you're getting at.
And your shallow attack is correct, my looks are the cause of my rejections.
It's funny how you proceed to fawn over the random photo of a male model without any care as to what his education/income/living situation is, but just make a joke of my post.
I'm sure you probably don't understand the irony at all because you only care about how hot a guy is, but I look forward to you making more posts about how ALL MEN SUCK AND I HATE THEM because the hot ones won't date you :)
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The women are just as degenerate as the men are. We are going to need a bigger a oven than we thought.
Let the purging commence.
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Hey NEETS, im from /r9k/
picture is me~
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the male degenerates at /r9k/ found their super secret girls club, and are defiling it, which would be my guess.
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Hey ladies, Im also from /r9k/ mind rating my photo? Keep in mind that I AM a gentleman. Unlike most of the men you FUCKING EVIL WHORES go for.
Eh, well personally being the one that singled it out and suggested you were from /r9k/, most of the posters here are refugees from boards like /cgl/ and a lot of adhere to strict posting formats in order to preserve tradition, for example never beginning a greentext with a capital letter. No reason why, it just isn't done, even though some do (those are almost always New/Summerfags). After a while you begin to pick up on some of these nuances.
Your post specifically sounded overall too mean to come from a poster here.
Like, we're bitchy, but when we do are bitchy typically we give a reason behind our bitchiness i.e. "this fucking hideous bitch, look at her fried ass hair and cottage-cheese ass" as opposed to simply "they're ugly".
Saying "hahahaha", well this seemed a little too much like the way a guy would expect a generic female to type having viewed generic female texts, but most of the women here aren't generic women, we're introverts and loners in our own right, and so we tend to use lol, lel, kek, tep kok, lmao, :^) etc. (also referring back to the strict posting standards, you ended hahahaha with a period, which I've never seen done).
Also the phrase "bitch boys" sounds like an insult a man would come up with that he would expect a woman to use to describe a man.
In a way it's similar to if you've ever watched one of those shows where police guys go on forums and try to lure out paedos, and in the chat messages "dey type liek dis lol xD evn tho u kno most teenajerz tipe nuthin liek dis bt its there adult interpretashun XD" if that makes sense.
You can tell because you were recently a teenager but they haven't been teenagers for decades.
We can tell because we're women and you've never been female.
Hope that explains it partially for you, it's hard to pinpoint exactly.
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So mean, don't troll the ladies ;o;
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Wow, are your fingers so greasy you posted with a wrong image?
Won't even bother trying to have a proper debate.
Another wonderful rebuttal.
Like I said, I will look forward to you talking about how all men are shit as your womb rots and you die alone and miserable :)
I'll be with my waifu smiling all the while.
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"A bitchy, catty paradise."
This can be can be corrected.
Though such measure may not be necessary. As the degenerates from /r9k/ are proving themselves concentration camp worthy and will likely keep us busy..
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>>22887>I'll be with my waifu smiling all the while.
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I've noticed this about this place.. the entire website is just a giant gossip farm..
I was aware of this before the degenerates from r9k came.
YES FUCK LOL
Whenever I see men pretending to be a woman they're always ridiculously obvious because they legit believe we talk like "Uhu yh babes i ttlly get wat ur sayin and I agree with you! All men really r the pits huh! XD".
You guys give yourselves waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much fucking credit.
And that being said>implying I haven't invaded /r9k/ since its conception in 2008 and slowly been adapting consensus towards a more submissive, female positive attitude
Who do you think makes all those "you love you lose" and "gentle femdom" threads? You can't beat us because you've already lost.
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why do you wanna see my penis??
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will you be my gf
>tfw so pathetic have to come to another imageboard to beg for a gf
All these btfo robots are making me moist.
Look at how angry they are, precious little babies.
Have you ever been to TwoX on plebbit? Or does this website hate reddit as well?
A lot of "ugh" goes on over there
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Perhaps it was all part of my master plan.
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omg them dubs
please be my gf please
I'm your pathetic boytoy please huh
You delude yourself. You want to believe that you could spot any male through text style. But the reality is that you only pick out the obvious fools.
If a smart male actually wanted to blend in here you wouldn't have a clue. For all you know you're already surrounded by them.
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Will any of you legbeards be my gf?
Since i have absolutely no standards when it comes to women this seems like the perfect place.
Hmm? Don't you dumb whores know anything about males?
We fucking love conflict. We're not happy unless we're fucking FURIOUS.
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no, actually I think ill migrate from this board from /r9k/ and stay here until im 30?>>22922
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Uh you dropped the wrong pic
>>22948>boy as tripname
smh fam tbh
btw this is bait>>22938
You can't take /r9k/ from us. Our grasp is too strong.
For every "gentle femdom" thread on that board there are dozens of feminism hate threads. Our culture permeates the entire board. Your culture is contained in a single thread.
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It's not bait
ohayo desu! Kawaii sugoi!
We get it… you whores want to hate-fuck us.
God damn do all the women on this board think with their gaping vaginas all the time?
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Last week when I fucked young androgynous Japanese/honourary aryan boy who looked like this.
I invented "reeeeee" for use in the context of autistic outrages
It feels good to see it spread across the internet
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The only thing I want to do is bind your arms behind your head to a bed frame, blindfold you, gag you, slowly lower my moist ass down onto your face and ride your nose to orgasm as your furious muffled screams for clemency ricochet around the walls of my slippery love cavern.
The guy signing his posts with /pol/ is a satire poster. His purpose is to give you a false sense of security by presenting himself as an incompetent fool. You'll assume that the only people invading the board are raging robots having a laugh. This thread will die out and you'll go back to your daily routine here. You'll lap up the delicious milk as you always have.
But can you be certain you know what's in your milk now?
OH BABY DON'T STOP
PLS BE MY GF
Fear not. You'll be well lubricated for many months to come.
We're here now. You'll have no shortage of nazi dick to suck.
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Oh please mistress
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Board is all about whine and drama>little
By default you're already heads below>fuckboy
Says the crowd that sees men as moving dildos>wants to dildo a man
You realise he's behind 7 proxies
And I'd love to fart those sparkles into your face after I've tied you up to hate-fuck the feminism out of you.
Don't worry, babe… you'll be cured in no time.
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I love prison school!
How'd you know I was into facesitting? Did my text style give that away too?
I like it here. Initially I was fucking around when I said I was going to stay and begin to corrupt your hivemind. But now I'm actually going to stay for the sick bantz.
You can sit on my face until the sun comes up, bitch.
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I can assure it is not really satire. I was aware of this thread before the r9k degenerates came here, but I kept it to myself, as there was nothing really special in this thread I can't find out side of a usual tumblr post bitching about men.
What is interesting is how misanthropic the tone is here about men, as its just as bad on 4chan about women. They parallels are interesting.
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But it can hide your filthy holes from me as long as I'm filtering pics
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Is this cuter?
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You girls cosplay?
I cosplay too!
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But I'm not from /r9k/.
I told you I was from /pol/ multiple times. You're disappointing me, femanon. I thought you were actually intelligent enough to identify my posts.
I actually like and support Nicolas Hoult as an actor so this is okay from me.
You're still a degenerate shitposting attentionwhore though. Even female selfposters get banned/deleted here.
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Wish I was famous, then maybe i'd get a yandere
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The poster your replying to is not me m'lady.
I'm the cosplayer~
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Never! The god of near death experiences doesn't like that!
He will show you~
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I came here just to tell you how ridiculously hot that sounds. Facesitting is the gift of a Goddess. To be so engulfed within the scent of a woman like yourself, eyes coated with darkness as I'm crushed beneath all that juicy softness… It would be a dream come true. To think that such an erotic BDSM Queen could derive pleasure from a worthless nose like mine…
Prison School is great too.
P.S it's so refreshing reading genuine reasons why men are hated instead of having it disguised behind a shield of political nonsense. Too often I only hear about why I should hate women. Getting it all out in the open feels so much better.
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>ITT: /r9k/ visits lolcow
You sound like one of the more evolved males to be able to recognise how gracious and generous the act of facesitting is when supplied to a willing or otherwise male.
Go my child, have your semen forcibly extracted from you so that you may proliferate your submissive genetic legacy.
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I never knew being called highly evolved would feel so good.
Whilst unwilling facesitting is pretty damn good, I for one can't imagine the mindset that wouldn't want a soft ass and a yummy pussy smothering their useless face. Just too fantastic to possibly want to resist such a glorious gift. The oppurtinity to leave your thoughts behind and lose yourself in your Mistress' endless rear!
I sure do wish I could take you up on such an offer, were there more women as generous with the gift of facesitting as you.
[spoiler] You're really good at writing exciting text from the perspective of a domme by the way, are you a writer? [spoiler]
It used to be fashionable to celebrate men’s alleged superiority over women—Aristotle referred to women as defective men. Philosophers like Immanuel Kant and Jean-Jacques Rousseau and Friedrich Nietzsche deemed women intellectually inferior to men. Fortunately, those male chauvinistic days are mostly gone. But today a new kind of reverse, female chauvinism prevails. It is so common, social scientists have given it a name: the WOMEN are WONDERFUL phenomenon—WAW for short. Here is a sample of recent WAW headlines. Let’s consider some common claims of female superiority: Multi-tasking: It is a truth universally recognized that women are better at multi-tasking; Here is the British writer Sir Ken Robinson in one of the most watched TED talks of all time: “I think this is probably why women are better at multitasking. Because you are, aren’t you? There’s a raft of research, but I know it from my personal life.” Sir Robinson refers to a “raft of research” Well, where is it? What we have is a handful of small, inconclusive, inconsistent studies. Some show women are better—while others find that it’s men who excel. Thomas Buser a researcher at University of Amsterdam, took a careful look at the data and concluded that, “As far as gender differences are concerned, we do not find any evidence for them in the effects of multitasking.” It turns out that neither sex is particularly good at focusing on more than one thing at once. Niceness: What about the claim that women are just a lot nicer than men? According to film critic Roger Ebert: “Women are nicer than men… in terms of their lifelong natures, women are kinder, more empathetic, more generous. And the sooner more of them take positions of power, the better our chances as a species.” Is he right? Well, when it comes to generosity, kindness, and altruism, once again you find lots of dueling studies. But one of the most thorough and careful surveys was carried out by Tom Smith and his team at the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago. Unlike many other studies of altruism, this one was not limited to a small, unrepresentative sample of college students. Also, Smith and his team asked questions that included both male and female styles of altruism. Women tend to adopt nurturing and caring roles toward people they know—while men excel at good deeds and acts of kindness involving strangers. In Smith’s survey, women proved to be more empathetic than men: they were more likely to feel pity for others and to describe themselves as softhearted. But when it came to the empirically critical measure of generosity—how much do you actually do for others—the results were different. When Smith and his colleagues tallied up the results, they found that the score was even. “Gender,” Smith concluded, “is not notably related to altruistic behaviors.” Advantage: Neither sex. Both sexes have their graces and their own styles of being virtuous. Neither has a monopoly on good or evil. How did we lose sight of this obvious truth? Because we're in the age of WAW. The rules of the Women are Wonderful game make it impossible for men to win: If women do something better than men, that is evidence of their superiority. If men outperform women, that's proof of discrimination—retrograde patriarchy and toxic masculinity. To violate the spirit of WAW is to invite havoc. Suggest, as the former president of Harvard Larry Summers did, that men may have some innate advantages in math and spatial reasoning, and prepare to change your job. Write a book or article titled “Are Men Necessary?,” "The End of Men," Man Down, or Women are From Venus, Men are from Hell," and the gods of the zeitgeist smile. The answer to male supremacy is not female supremacy—the answer is equality and mutual regard and respect. Let’s try that. Are you or anyone you know under the spell of WAW?
No, just a naturally dominant female. I have a very long-term partner who came out to me as enjoying gentle femdom about 2 years ago so I get to do a lot of lip-service.
Naturally I was delighted because, well, submissive men are fucking adorable imo and I get a power trip off of sneaking up on from behind whilst he's lying on his side in bed, pushing my tits into the back of his head whilst pulling his hair back with one hand which forces him to curve his back and press his ass into my crotch to minimalise the pain of his hair being tugged (which men are surprisingly sensitive to) whilst I then proceed to fuck his ass whilst jacking him off with my other free hand.Also we have a different format on lolcow for things like spoilers. Putting words between two
creates a spoiler, I think it's borrowed from 8chan.##
I have considered working in a dungeon but I'm only just 24 and as far as I know most clients prefer older dommes.>>23143
Holy fucking shit what are paragraphs.
Do you not realize that people cross post on different boards? I already stated in this thread that I go on /r9k/ to rally betas.
I'm flattered that you went out to find my post though. I think you may have earned a nice dripping creampie.
Sounds to me like you have the luckiest partner in the world. You really are a born domme. That scenario you described is one of my fantasies too. It's so heartwarming to hear a woman take so much pleasure from teasing a poor little sub boy.
24 is hardly schoolgirl age. I'm sure you could pull off the control and authority of an older woman if it's something you really wanted to do.
#This is going to sound pathetic but I have nothing to lose. Reason I asked about you being a writer is because my Mistress wants me to write some erotica about us for her. I'm having trouble getting into the mindset of a powerful and confident domme myself. Is there any chance I could talk to you more about your experiences? Also is this how I spoiler? You're the best, so kind.#
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Are you the type of person who writes "BTFO" at the end of all of their incoherent diatribes?
To be completely frank with you I'm extremely busy at the moment trying to sort out my student finance since I'm in the UK and I have less than a month to go to get it straight, but I know for a fact that there are other dommes on lolcow who'd be willing to communicate with you.
If you require help I would suggest making a thread on here centred around male sexual submissiveness/female domination.
Virtually all subjects are game on this specific board, but I know at the moment our janitors (farmhands) are actively deleting obviously /r9k/ centric threads because of the influx so maybe wait a day until the storm has calmed.
I know a thread like that isn't actually /r9k/ centric but it seems they've extended to all "male-made" threads.
That's a crying shame. Student finance are a pack of beaurocratic shits who thrive on leeching your time and money. Now I have another reason to hate them, aside from having to start paying my loan back soon.
Thanks for being so honest and helpful. I was planning to wait anyway. I mean, I'm impressed you're being this helpful to a filthy tourist who only came here out of curiosity and was drawn in by love of facesitting.
Hey, maybe you'll see the thread in a months time. How slow is this place? Although I'll be sending her my piece before then.
The best of luck with your finances, and I hope you torment your lucky little boy for years to come. Thanks, CowDomme!
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This is amazing, I've stumbled onto a bizarro version of r9k. Very interesting.
To be honest I'm not like a domme 24 hours 7 days a week. I think one of the most important aspects of this specific sexual orient is that you learn to keep it separate from real life. At the end of the day you have to primarily keep your partners comfort in mind and try not to actually emasculate/humiliate them IRL lest you ruin the kink for them entirely.
Unless of course they're into it.>>23211
Neh m8, I'm actually an oldfag that's been around 4chan since 2006 so I'm probably as much a tourist as you are. All of lolcow is a refugee hub for /seagulls/ (/cgl/) after moot burnt it down so actually we're pretty all channers in some way or another.
>how slow is this place?
/pt/ is the fastest board named after our queen and saviour cow Pixyteri.
She's the female equivalent of Chris-chan, like, exact, and we worship her like the second coming of christ so you'll see her name tossed around here a lot.
/pt/ is primarily for the milking of cows and cultivation of drama, but the vast majority of them are female cows.
/b/ was added a few months ago but it's really gained in momentum since and only very recently exploded in activity.
/g/ is a containment board for feminine shit and isn't very active right now, but it is gaining.
If you visit /meta/ there's a thread containing board statistics. Right now on average we get around 1500-2000 posts per day and I think we've actually had around close enough to a million unique posters now.
lolcow was only created around a year ago so these are actually pretty impressive statistics considering.
>aside from having to start paying my loan back soon
Kek, like that's ever to actually happen, I'm fleeing the country once I graduate.
Thanks though, and good luck with your piece.
If you're writing it from your perspective be sure to include extracts that paint her in a powerful and dominant light, and be heavy on the adjectives in relation to how you feel within and after each action i.e. "She's got me lying on my front with my hands tied to the frame above me, her shadow towering menacingly above my prostrating form. I can feel the bonds beginning to cut uncomfortably against bone at this point but with every passing second I only feel myself growing pathetically stiffer. A cold sweat is beginning to bead against my brow and I feel my heart beating wildly on the inside of my chest, my thoughts mixing together with something of pure bestial instinct and at the heart of it my innate desire to be completely and mercilessly punished for the crime of belonging to the inferior sex; I'm losing myself in a haze of drunken ecstasy and fear of what I know is coming but what I'm completely powerless to prevent".
Fuck me are you sure you're not a writer? That's amazing prose to make on the spot. Thanks so much for all this help, yet again. You're an angel.
What country are you going to flee to?! A domme this good is a national asset… How tragic to lose.
I feel like I should ask some more important questions whilst I have such a wonderful person here, but it's almost 5am and I'm hopelessly horny thinking about facesitting.
So I'll just ask something dumb and vague; what reactions from your boy give you that sadistic thrill most of all? If he does something pathetic, is that disappointing or exciting? Do you like when he resists?
And, what feels best about facesitting from your perspective?I know you're busy but I'd still love to exchange emails or something, I feel I could learn so much about this scene from talking to an expert like you, more than could fit in this thread. Would be cool to have someone to talk femdom with besides my Mistress, help figure out how to please her like she deserves. But either way, much appreciated.
Right, I understand. I recently ended a relationship with a domme, so I totally get the distinction between conduct inside and out of the bedroom.
Good luck with dodging the feds. Is fleeting the country to avoid paying for loans sorting people normally do?alsojesusthatwritingsamplemydiiiiiick
Thanks m8, I think it's pretty amateur though if I'm honest, not that I don't enjoy the flattery.
My degree is in linguistics and Asian pacific language with Japanese modules on the side so maybe Japan, maybe Sverige, but honestly with my degree, TEFL, TESOL and distinction A-levels in English I can probably afford to teach English or Japanese pretty much anywhere in the world apart from some Middle-Eastern shithole where the natives will probably try to cut my fucking head off for being an educated female ALLAHU AKBAR.
Japan currently holds the worlds 3 largest economy and with the Tokyo Olympics approaching in 2020 it's a one-in-a-lifetime opportunity for getting myself established there.
>but it's almost 5am
oshit I didn't realise you were a fellow Brit. I was wondering how you knew about Student Finance.
>so I'll just ask something dumb and vague; what reactions from your boy give you that sadistic thrill most of all? If he does something pathetic, is that disappointing or exciting? Do you like when he resists?
Honestly the thing that gets me the most is when I'm slowly teasing him and he makes that sudden sharp, intake of breath that goes like "TSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHH" because he's struggling so hard both mentally and physically not to blow his load every where in that instant.
If I'm riding him and he makes that noise, I throw drawing it out to the wind in a fucking instant, pin his arms behind his head, lower myself down against him so I can bite his ear and start riding him like mechanical bull.
For me having a guy on the edge of ejaculation is the closest you can ever get to absolute control of man in both heart, soul and mind, because in that instant whilst they're wrapped in the silks of ecstasy, they will do anything you want, as long as you deliver release. It's intoxicating.This is how I repeatedly keep getting him to ejaculate into his own open mouth even though he always feel heavily ashamed afterwards.
I'm not going to drop my email tonight just because I'm a huge flake and I know I'll probably never respond to you if you actually did email me but I'm sure I'll catch you in future threads.
now g2bed u cheeky cunt or ur missus won't get u a Nando's 2morrow.
N E W C A S T L E
>is fleeting the country to avoid paying for loans sorting people normally do?
Yes because the UK is an ever-increasing shithole that's only getting worse with every year and in the UK if you don't pay back your loan after 30 years it's automatically written off.
They don't have the time, money or resources to track down everybody that flees the country with a student debt so if you don't mind establishing yourself in a new country you're pretty much sorted.
TRIPFAG GET OUT
Go to Japan and be worshipped as the gorgeous foreign transfer student.
Flattery is one thing even a worthless boy like me is good for, if the girl is deserving.
Ah, the sensation of tasting your own cum… decadent and intensely humiliating.
Hmm, thanks for all the tips. I know exactly how it feels to be in the hands of someone controlling your orgasm, making you their little puppy… Sorry again that I can't respond as eloquently as I'd like to. It's all very helpful and fucking erotic
Honestly? I'd rather send you an email and have you never want to reply, than spend ages wishing I'd managed to get your email and wondering what I missed out on.
I d-don't even like nandos u cheeky so n so don't order me about you ain't me missus
B R I S T O L
I like the way you described that sort of shall intake of breath. Mind if I take inspiration from your phrasing for my future writings?>>23330
Nagito is best boy fuck you.
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Of course, that is why I'm posting him. I always liked Tsumiki but everyone calls her a whore, I just don't understand. She's perfect.
Because I love language, I genuinely enjoy the subject and I'm such a prideful cunt I will never, ever allow myself to end up working in a job I despise because to me that's an act of submission and personal failure.
That being said, if you know the subject like I do, you'd know that it actually isn't limited at all.
Consultant, translator, interpreter, ALT, International Relations Co-ordinator, fulltime educator in virtually any country that has English or Japanese on the curriculum, I don't think that's limited at all.
If it all goes tits up I can always move to Japan and become some exotic gaijin professional domination mistress.
I'm 5'7", the good kind of chubby curvy, naturally blonde pale white English girl with blue eyes and big tits.
Do you have any idea how many repressed Japanese salarymen with gaijin domme fetishes there are? I'd be rolling in moonbux after only a few weeks.
Of course it does, but from what I've seen, it's more of an established system in male prisons where somebody is the "bitch", is forced to dress as a woman, no one wants to be seen with them. Shit like that.
And correct me if I'm wrong (like seriously, I may be wrong on this), but it seems like the rates are higher in male prisons.
Don't know what that angry loser crying about cookies and tea and dumblr is on about
Fuck, with that description alone I want to just pay you to sit your big chubby butt on me for the rest of my life.
You'd kick ass at it if you were comfortable with it and can get around the yakuza
Fuck it didn't link.
Anyway, it's on /g/, search the catalogue.
This happens every time I try to link and I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
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There is no reverse eggman, because women can't be robots. This is just another hugbox for sex of fewer neurons. It is basically redditchan.
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Tbh I wish a woman would dominate me like this. I always felt sexually frustrated and took my anger out on the interwebz but after submitting myself to the female gender I finally found happiness. Im a shy guy tho, how can i meet girls who will do things like step on my balls and spank me???
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Naah, you just gotta know how to tame em'.
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>I'm a retard who has no sense of nuance or understanding of people general
Seriously if you're a sexist you should kill yourselves
No he isn't
the guys name is tommy oliver and he definitely isn't a 4channer
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What are you doing
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omg. u r so wise. pls bless us moar with ur jeanyus.
I'm obviously gesturing at intelligence >>24006
I can't tbh
>>24027>And all of the men you listed are from an era where women had no right to education whatsoever
Marilyn Vos Savant
>>24058>Marilyn Vos Savant
Only real contender on that list>>24068
Marie Currie is far closer to someone like Feynman than Gauss, relatively unimpressive
What are you talking about? just IQ? Literally just google "women with the highest iq in the world"
Can't believe some people are actually this delusional jfc
fucking whore sold her own country for own pleasure
i could go on but its just not worth it
women are more cruel than any men
retarded vagina owner
tell me how can anyone "make" anyone to do something
nigga, just walk away from the dick, niggerina, just scream and shout, scratch and bite
>muh abusive men
who stayed in the abusive relationship? did he keep a gun at your head? ofcourse he didnt you dumb fuck
fat pile of excuses
I'm British and I'm male so my perspective may be pretty alien to yours.
>Why should I like men? Why should I trust men?>plenty of reasons to be terrified of a man.
You shouldn't have to like or trust anyone until they give you a reason to. Holding hatred in your heart and cutting out half of the population from your life would be unhealthy though, so get to know different types of people and keep your guard up. Don't let fear/hatred get in the way of your life but also don't ignore it to the point of being reckless. Stay cautious, being cautious doesn't have to mean you hate someone, it just means you're keeping your own wellbeing in mind. Men are weary of other men too. In terms of catcalling I think this could be a case of a loud minority shouting over a majority. If it's safe you should definitely shout back.
Your friends are probably just so comfortable around you they make those jokes, perhaps they like messing with you too, especially if they can get a rise out of you. People are quite nearsighted when it comes to how others feel about things. They probably aren't saying those things maliciously, though they should stop if a friend needs them to. How old are you all? If they're mature they'll listen to your concerns.
If you want to break the friendship then you start steadily seeing them/talking to them less and less. The ones that make the effort to stay in touch with you are the ones that will listen to you, and they're the ones that are worth it.
Goodness, a logical, non-misogynistic robot.
Who'd have thought.
those ratchet ones are the worst
they'll shag anything even their own kids
you should know this is mostly yank-chans who have male issues
us british women just humour men at the most cos we know you're stupid and we know americans are even more dafter than you lot lol
bathory is most likely a myth
>fucking whore sold her own country for own pleasure
to a man, who did the violence, as always
>women are more cruel than any men
guess thats why we commit all the violent crime oooh wait
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hi where to i claim my free gf? thx lads
You know all the shit surrounding Madame LaLaurie is mostly myth and folklore that attached to her over time?
She was a cruel evil wish but the stories about her keeping slaves chained to walls with their cut out and women in cages with bits of flesh sliced off and shit is the equivalent of a mid-century horror bedtime story i.e. it's untrue.
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hey bro, thanks for proving R9K right again. Reminder ladies, that most of you are ugly and repulsive just the same as the average man without make up. Even more so, so many of you have disgusting skin on your face with big pores. Seeing some of you without make up turns down most of you to a bland 5/10 who I wouldn't even turn a second eye in public.
Keep telling yourself that mang.
Friendly reminder that you wouldn't even be here if you weren't desperate for female attention.
Back to tendiechan with you, cuck.
Little girl that post right here would be my first post on this website. I was just interested in studying the female mind and what better than an anonymous board. Women are deceitful and its fun reading about all the things you hide from your boyfriends and men in general.
Never even heard of this board until someone on r9k referenced the misandry general thread on this website.
Women are such a joke. I'm laughing at your post in irl because you are completely ignorant of the status/dominion of your gender in this world while posting this.
>you are completely ignorant of the status/dominion of your gender in this world while posting this
I know that my status is such that I could invite you round to my house for a few drinks, send you packing home for the night blue balled and thoroughly sexually frustrated and pin a rape charge on you the next day that would have you locked up for decades.
Know your place, boy.
gb2 r9k you absolute attention whore.
So over there you tell females to fuck off. Then on a completely different board, for females, you COME HERE and tell females to fuck off.
This is the first time in all my time on 4chan that I felt like I was talking to a literal 13 year old.
Go back to your containment board, loser.
If you're a woman and youve always been raped and manipulated by men, of course you're going to dislike men.
go back to r9k please
>>21654>this thread is cancer and tbh no one really cares
yet people including you still posted in it.
if you have a problem with this thread then gtfo
My body is like that and Ive always felt like a whale.
i didnt know some people appreciated bodies like that
if i was a guy and my gf would dress like a cheap hooker, i'd be embarassed
im pretty sure girls dont like guys that have a beard and wear fedoras so why should it be an exception for women?
im a women btw
>>23893>this place>only one thread>judging lolcow with /b/
most of us just go on /pt/ to laugh at lolcows
As someone with a ton of insecurities and issues, I just want to outline that really pathetic dudes like me do in fact exist. (this is a copy-paste of a list I sent someone else when they asked about me):
I like running, it helps me relax as well. I've been watching television less than normal, but I really like Community. It's a cute show. I thought True Detective Season 2 was kinda cool, and I feel like it didn't get it's due. Colin Farrell is adorable.
I'm super insecure. I'm sure you already know that.
It makes me so happy when people tell me they drink coffee to some of the covers we put on Youtube, or that they look forward to it. It's super humbling.
It really upsets me when people are mean to someone they consider to be 'under them'. I tend to speak up in cases where I see someone bullying someone else, thinking they are in a position above the other person.
I love cuddling.
I used to play rugby, and it's where I got a nose injury. I also used to be in the 'cool group' in high school, but I was still super sensitive and anxious, and I had to suppress it most of the time to fit in with them. It really hurt me when a lot of people moved on from me after I gained weight from the OCD medication. I've been on other medications as well.
I'm super clingy.
It really doesn't take that much for someone to love me. It may sound bad, but I feel like I could love someone on the basis of them simply loving me back, and being an ultimately gracious/sensitive and compassionate person.
I cry a lot some nights. I like to write my dreams down because it is interesting.
My ex-girlfriend dumped me 9 months ago, and I still think about her every night and hug a pillow at night because it's hard to feel like she's not there.
It's hard to pretend that I'm not over-sensitive, so being myself is usually completely off the table.
I suffer from OCD/depression. It started when my sister, separately, had a mental breakdown where she had to be traumatized. She was hallucinating like crazy, and I was convinced I was going to lose her.
Scared and pathetic men like me do exist, but obviously there isn't anything inherently attractive about any of that.
You are fucking stupid then.
let me put it this way:
Lets say I'm a racist idiot who sees crime statistics, the stats say more blacks in the us murder and rob people, proportionally speaking. Now, since I'm a fucking idiot like you are, you filthy untermensch, I'd go through life being cautious of black people.
Except I'm not you, and I'm not an idiot, and I've figured out a more statistically sound correlation to base my assumptions of danger on.
Obviously it isn't something in the male genes that makes them evil, do you agree with this? Most of you probably do, sense you are rational human beings, so take this logic to it's conclusion and realize that your fear is irrational, and for fucks sake look into criminal psychology if you want a good determinant of who is going to be cray cray.
It's not irrational if it's based on experiences and logic.
Every single woman in this thread, GUARANTEED, will have at various points in her life, multiple times, experienced or witnessed violence, verbal abuse, emotional abuse, physical abuse, sexual violence etc. at the hands of a man.
Aged 4: my biological father left the household and his 4 children because he got caught cheating on my mother
Aged 6: my mother's new boyfriend begins beating her, which we sometimes witness (she later dumps him)
Aged 7: our house is later burgled by a group of men
Aged 9: my mother meets a new man whom she believes to be good. Turns out to be a psycho with a severe drinking problem. She stays by him for years because at this point she's a single mother with 5 kids, a new one by the psycho because he begged her to get pregnant and start a family together before he turned out to be psycho,and she's entirely financially dependant on him. I spend the next few years watching and listening to her having the shit kicked out of her. Also he's gaslighting the fuck out of her and she's too emotionally weak to get away.
Aged 12: we finally escape to a woman's hostel. The head of the hostel, a man, begins molesting me. I never tell anybody.
Aged 13: we've left the hostel and moved to a small village where my mother thinks we'll be safe. My best friends father begins molesting me. Eventually gets caught after going into a clients house and the mother walks in on him molesting their baby. He is never sentenced.
Aged 15: my older sister gets a boyfriend, who after a year being together turns out to be a psycho and a druggy. She dumps him. One week later he breaks into our house in the night armed with a knife looking for my sister and tries to murder my entire family. Neighbour who is a farmer hears our screams and comes to our rescue with a gun. This one is actually jailed…. for 1 year.
Every week of my life sinceI turned 16: unable to leave the house without being subjected to whistles and verbal abuse, often sexual, by random, strange men.
2 months ago: a random dude in the middle of the night attempts to pull me into an underpass for reasons I can only assume relate to rape. I manage to escape.
The sad part is my life isn't even unique. There are a tonne of girls on here who's lives echo my own horrid experiences with your kind
Tell me again about how irrational we are.
Ooooooh shit I forgot to add the one where my mum took us on holiday when I was 5 and a man followed us up the beach demanding my mother let him buy one of us (all pale, blonde haired, blue eyed girls, all 4 of us), saying she wouldn't even miss one of us because "she has so many". We ended that holiday early.
Men a shit.
>>28481>Every single woman in this thread, GUARANTEED, will have at various points in her life, multiple times, experienced or witnessed violence, verbal abuse, emotional abuse, physical abuse, sexual violence etc. at the hands of a man.
This changes nothing about how you are using an innacurate lens to determine who is dangerous.
Do you believe in genetic evil? Do you think that men are evil because of genetics? If yes then fine, your belief can still technically be logical, if no then it is inherently illogical. For your own sake I recommend looking into criminal psychology, you will feel better.
Lel, my mom molested me, gaslit me, verbally abused me. Do you really think this shit doesn't happen? Look at munchausens, it's mostly a female phenomena, it basically proves my theory.
Women are not usually allowed to be in positions of power, this being understood, if they are cruel women, they exercise their cruelty in darker recesses and places that are hidden. Their abuse is necessarily more covert.
I am genuinely not a sexist, I fucking hate the idea of a gender identity in the first place, this shit is just the shell my consciousness happens to be occupying, it's incidental and it's significance should be treated as such.
>Do you believe in genetic evil?
I believe in science, my male friend, and it is a known fact that testosterone as a hormone is responsible for extremely higher predispositions towards violence and sexual activity (the reason why so many of you would flat out rape women if you thought you could get away with it) when compared with oestrogen.
I don't believe in evil, only actions than can either result in either positive or negative consequences, but you guys are dangerous on a biological level and that's something that can't be remedied any time soon.
Your mother sounds like an evil witch that should be taken out back and shot but your singular negative experience hardly compares with >>28481
Your own lens is inaccurate and highly bias because your basing your responses solely on emotions relating to the fact that you belong to the the specific group we're attacking.
You can't just say "Oh okay, yeah, given the statistics men are in fact a lot more violent than woman and your sex has suffered for centuries under our rule. That sucks and for that reason I try to ensure that I don't stray into that category in order to function as a paragon of my sex", no you have to try and act like we're "exaggerating" our experiences or pretend that they never happened at all, which places you firmly with the rest of the Neanderthals.
Okay, at this point I can't objectively prove you wrong.
I doubt this possibility though. Simply as a matter of sexual dymorphism being so dramatic in the brain, evidence has thus so far pointed to the contrary, as does neuroplasticity. If you accept how much influence one can have over the development of their own brain, then you kind of accept the idea that anyone being inherently evil is kind of stupid. Or rather that genetic evil is kind of stupid.
also like, male monks. They might have evil urges, but they specifically choose a life devoid of the power to express these urges. They had the capability to choose a lifestyle where they could relieve these urges, if they are evil then why didn't they? This discussion interests me very much.
Everybody has evil urges, but the problem is that men seem to act upon more than women.
>there is little dispute that men commit far more violent acts than women. According to FBI data on crime in the U.S., they account for some 90% of known murderers.
- Time magazine 2014
>worldwide, women aged 15 to 44 are more likely to be killed or maimed because of male violence than because of war, cancer, malaria and traffic accidents combined. Why is this?http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/violence-against-women-1959171-Feb2015/
>in the Russian Federation, in 1996, 86.6 percent of all serious crimes were committed by men. In the U.S., in 2004, 85 percent of total serious crimes were committed by men. Ninety-two percent of serial killers from the U.S. are menhttps://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-aggressivus/201409/male-aggression
correlation =/= causation
Just to let you know what you sound like, I've had this exact type of discussion with the sexists at /r9k/ and the racists at /pol/. The logic is no different.
What, PUAs? Wizardchan? /r9k/? You're being ridiculous. Impotent posturing is not evil.
You might read the book, "For Women Only."
"Ninety-two percent of serial killers from the U.S. are men"
You should be able to figure out why this isn't a good point. Crime figures are represented figures, IE: caught. We do not look for female serial killers, and we estimate there are quite a lot of uncaught serial killers roaming around, so it is entirely possible this statistic is unrepresentative, and almost certainly true that it is incomplete.
What is the full conclusion of belief in genetic evil? Is the logical and efficient conclusion of your worldview not ultimately genocide so long as you have an alternate means to reproduce? Can you not see how every idea of genetic evil is essentially justifying eugenics in practice?
I would never agree that a mass genocide of the male sex was an appropriate response to the issue, but there needs to a massive overhaul in the way that the female gender is perceived and treat in every society around the world and I believe drastically harsher punishments meted out to men that can be proved beyond doubt (so that we don't end up with false accusations) have in some way caused severe injury/death against a woman who ultimately will always be the physically weaker of the two sexes.
I was a Human Phys. student in college so I don't believe asexual reproduction will ever truly viable. Mother nature works in mysterious ways and if you don't adhere to her laws it really does fuck everything up on a genetic and sometimes initially undetectable level.
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Hey fam, malebot here. No hate or anything I like women all the same or whatever. Just passin through. Have a nice day fam ;^)
Suddenly it all makes sense.
During this period I kind of want Admin to just block all IP's originating as a referral from /r9k/.
It's absurdly easy to get around but it would serve as a minor deterrent.
It's easily gotten around from >>28519
Like, your assumption is only going to keep you safe at a minimum of 100-the known percentage of times women murder rape and molest people. That's not taking into consideration the fact that all crime is underrepresented cause duh, of course it is, and the possibility that female crime is also underrepresented because the pathology is different.
If it isn't holistically correct, how could it be logical?
I live in the UK otherwise I would :(>>28525
I'm actually amazed by your response.
Like. Wow. Given all of my experiences you still believe I should remain as casual around men who are like 100x more likely to kill/rape me as I do women.
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooow male delusion is fucking insane.
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You mean DO NOT PASS. DO NOT COLLECT GBP. GO DIRECTLY TO JAIL.
Oh,yes britcucks have completely forgone public safety with gun bans, lenient sentencing and excess multiculturism.
Banning guns was retarded how else are women going to be equal in terms of force with a man?
The average is man is stronger than elite trained women.
You have "progressive" policy to thank for this.
I dont think your views are wrong, you should be careful especially since you seem to live in a poor area, ideally never alone etc
There will always be trash among men, a false sense of security is unproductive.
It frustrates me when i see women acting like nothing could ever happen to them, especially if i care about them as it worries me.
The world sucks, just have to be cautious and deal with the realities of it.
There are better men so its not hopeless, they do tend to be rare though, so goodluck with that.
Im a guy btw in australia.
You seem logical, reasonable and intelligent.
Why can't more men be like you tbh.
Do you have a qt accent.
>>22827>still looks like a skinny unkempt uggo even with the filter
You're now one of the guys, tranny.
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I'll admit, i kek'd
No. One of my friends is a complete jackoff looser with dreadlocks and he still gets laid by decent looking girls. His secret? He doesn't give a fuck, is funny, is never awkward, and he makes interesting company and conversation.
Charisma, confidence, humor, and personality. If you don't have those then get them or don't bother.
I'm male, and I think you're scum.
I'd take any SJW feminist tumblrista over your sort. In a heartbeat.
"you have progressive policy to thank for this"
How so? It was the political right, Whigs and Tories, who systematically got rid of the right to own weapons in the UK.
>reactionary MRA knobhead in "shit for brains" shocker!
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I'm going to admit, I'm a female that has never understood it when people got "trapped" in abusive relationships and found themselves unable to escape.
I spent most of my childhood being dragged around by my mother who refused to leave her abusive, alcoholic, sociopathic boyfriend and so multiple times a week I would hide under my duvet in the corner of my room listening to her screams as he beat the shit out of her. Part of me will always hate her for subjecting her kids to this when she had so many opportunities to get out.
I've generally looked upon both parties as contemptible, but actually what I've come to realise is that these women are weak, and whilst it's not okay, it's understandable.
I've grown up through horrors and it's hardened me like stone. I'm a strong person and the kind of woman that legitimately believes that the only good man is a man beneath the heel of a woman so if a man ever tried to do that to me I would make him suffer tenfold on account of my arrogance and indignity, but not everybody is fortunate enough to be able to easily stand by the strength of their convictions.
I've since begun making it my mission wherever I find weak, timid women with no confidence to teach them my ways and convert them. So far my count numbers 2 and they're better people for it.
Picture related, the only suitable position for a male.
You're so pitiable.
If you tried that shit with me you'd wake up one morning chained to my radiator with your asshole so stretched out you'd prolapse every time you tried to take a shit, and only then I'd release you into the wild where you'd neglect to seek medical attention for your ills because men are stupid and weak and bound by this absurd sense of "masculinity" that prevents them from caring for themselves psychology/emotionally.
It's what always inevitably leads to your destruction.
I used to post on a board with a guy who was obsessed with kicking women in their vulvae. Because here's scientific proof that the vulva contains just as many nerve endings as the scrotum yet everyone thinks its so funny when a man gets kicked there I women should be kicked just as often as men it's only fair
You kind of remind me of him.
Lol you're into femdom isn't that cute?
She actually thinks that she can dominate a fully grown man.
Of course I'm in charge, you idiots have no autonomy over your own feeble convictions.
Once you get it into your brain that you might actually be getting a sniff of pussy you prostrate yourselves in the most pathetic way imaginable.
A beautiful woman approaches you and invites you back to hers for a drink and a shag? You'd jump at the chance at getting your dick wet.
Truth is you're lucky most women aren't as aggressive as you Neanderthals because you'd be pathetically easy to subjugate otherwise. You're a slave to your cock.
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I like to think most guys would be smart/paranoid enough to realize something was up.
It just never happens without ulterior motives. You might be right though, if women were more take-charge in that area then men would probably be easy to trick into pic related.
>>29401>realizes I and men in general are better suited for fighting>o-of course I'm in charge!
Let me tell you why you're stupid.
>you idiots have no autonomy over your own feeble convictions.
You don't know that. Just because guys in your life are shitty doesn't mean we all are, and your perception of us leads you to confirm what you already believe by demonizing our actions.
>Once you get it into your brain that you might actually be getting a sniff of pussy you prostrate yourselves in the most pathetic way imaginable.
No. Once I get a sniff of pussy I assert myself to a position of situational and conversational dominance.
>A beautiful woman approaches you and invites you back to hers for a drink and a shag? You'd jump at the chance at getting your dick wet.
Girls do this all the time. Do you know how far charisma and leading the conversation will get you with some random white girl at a club? Into her pants at least. Your lot are easy to manipulate.
But I would be leery of a woman coming out of the blue to invite me over, hence why I always have at the very least a knife on me; for situations where I am threatened.
>Truth is you're lucky most women aren't as aggressive as you
Good thing you lack sufficient testosterone to be aggressive.>Neanderthals
Lol you are beyond a doubt a tumblrina or something equivalent.>because you'd be pathetically easy to subjugate otherwise.
Men would be more careful then.>You're a slave to your cock.
And you're a slave to men who know how to work you.
It's ok, you can keep pretending you're a strong womyn who don't need no man, just know that you're a walking stereotype.
Your purpose is to bear children like a male's purpose is to provide DNA to combine with yours. Shunning this purpose (I assume) because you mentally can't function without believing you're in charge is silly.
No, just because someone replies to me does not make me a samefag.>>29433
5'9", I have about 15% bodyfat, so a healthy amount.>>29439
You forgot your librarian glasses madame.>>29440
If that's what you get from all of this, alright. Really, this site is like a female populated /r9k/. Instead of male NEETs crying about how women suck, it's female NEETs crying about how men suck. Both are pathetic and your gripes are pointless, and only serve to increase your introversion to the opposite gender, which contrary to your beliefs and wishes is unhealthy. winks misogynistically
All these dumb faggots from /r9k/ acting like lolcow is just the female version of it and the whole site is dedicated to producing male tears.
When in reality 99% of the users don't give a fuck and only care about the queen. All these newfags are giving me such a fuckin' migraine.
Not who you were arguing with but
Its painfully obvious how socially awkward you are, especially around women.
> And you're a slave to men who know how to work you.
Some women can be manipulated like men can but definitely not by guys like you lol. This would only work if the guy was hot and the girl had low self esteem.
>It's ok, you can keep pretending you're a strong womyn who don't need no man, just know that you're a walking stereotype.
Your purpose is to bear children like a male's purpose is to provide DNA to combine with yours. Shunning this purpose (I assume) because you mentally can't function without believing you're in charge is silly.
If women's purpose is bearing children then wouldn't that put them in charge? Basically she decides whether a child lives or not. Thus controlling the population, who breeds and who doesn't. If men are only good for DNA then once the job is done they are basically useless? Males aren't necessary for raising offspring.
>if women's purpose is bearing children then wouldn't that put them in charge?
If any man decided to forcibly impregnate me or any other woman for means of procreation we could just start punching the shit out of stomachs or shove some celery up our cooch until we created foetal jam.
Where is your superior gender now friend.
FUN FACT: placing celery in your vagina and leaving it for a determinate amount of time induces an abortion :^)
>>29490>then once the job is done they are basically useless
Are you serious? Men built the entire world you currently live in.
Women wouldn't be able to survive without the generosity of men. They're literally kept around because the can make babies.
There's a drug that makes your body think it's exercising to basically render atrophy a moot point.
Women wouldn't need to have chained limbs if their limbs are removed form birth, and they won't be able to think of escaping after the second generation because there's no point in teaching a tool how to think to begin with.
>here's a drug that makes your body think it's exercising to basically render atrophy a moot point
HA! NO THERE FUCKING ISN'T BECAUSE EVERY FAT PERSON AND BODY-BUILDER ON THE PLANET WOULD BE TAKING IT OTHERWISE AND THEY'D BE DOSING COMA PATIENTS UP WITH IT INSTEAD OF DOING PHYS. THERAPY WITH THEM EVERY DAY
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I GIVE YOU, A MAN!
I am a newfag but I'm not from /r9k/.>>29457
And? I'm stronger and more experienced with fighting, not to mention I have a ccw.>>29490>Its painfully obvious how socially awkward you are, especially around women.
Ah yes, an anon can read me even though I've been careful to only let minimal amounts, if any of my persona show through my posts.
>Some women can be manipulated like men can but definitely not by guys like you lol.
And yet, I and men like me still manage to have sex with attractive women. The secret? Personality and charisma.
You'd be amazed how many times just giving a random girl on the sidewalk a hi-five and talking afterward has lead to sex later or a date the next day.
>This would only work if the guy was hot and the girl had low self esteem.
Well, I'm muscular and college age girls seem to enjoy it just as much as I do.
Would it shock you if I said that girls want sex too? It's human nature to seduce each other. That is what kept babies being made in the olden times.
>If women's purpose is bearing children then wouldn't that put them in charge?
Obviously not. Look at the male dominated society. The patriarchy as you call it.
>If men are only good for DNA then once the job is done they are basically useless? Males aren't necessary for raising offspring.
They build and shape the society around their women and children. History again shows us this. Traditionally, men have defended the women and children of their society. Hence why men are naturally taller, stronger, and more aggressive.>>29492
>If any man decided to forcibly impregnate me or any other woman for means of procreation we could just start punching the shit out of stomachs or shove some celery up our cooch until we created foetal jam.
Well, for one that would be murder. Two, I don't see women in countries without proper abortion clinics doing that save for rare cases. There's somewhat high risk of internal damage involved.
>Where is your superior gender now friend.
I don't think either gender is superior. Men just tend to dominate things, and women tend to be submissive. Yet neither can survive into the future without each other.>>29524
You're fucking weird.
>n rats, binding of GW501516 to PPARδ recruits the coactivator PGC-1α. The PPARδ/coactivator complex in turn upregulates the expression of proteins involved in energy expenditure
It does not fucking prevent muscular/skeletal atrophy in static tissues you colossal retard, it enhances physical performance by causing cells to undergo a quickened rate of the citric acid/KREBS cycle.
>Gw1516 development was abandoned because animal testing showed that the drug caused cancer to develop rapidly in several organs
Ooooooh so as part of your masterplan to prevent human broodmares chained to the floor of a basement dying due to atrophy is to… dose them with a drug daily that will rapidly cause them to develop terminal cancers?
Oh man, a slowclap could not be more appropriate right now.
Men don't even understand basic chemistry.
>I am a newfag but I'm not from /r9k/
Not even gonna bother reading the rest of what you typed.
The fact that you just typed out a wall of text in order to refute what you supposedly consider to be foolish little girls who possess no autonomy when your pitiable dick comes onto the scene just shows how pathetic and insecure you are.
Considering I have not anywhere said anything of that nature…
>pathetic and insecure you are.
I doubt you even have a girlfriend, but if you do, congrats. One less feminist in the gene pool.
Goes to show how immature you are though. I've been nothing but civil here.
>he thinks that in order to have a girlfriend you have to be exclusively into women
No mate, I have the option of reproduction at any time at any point in my life because I'm a female, and goons like you physically throw yourselves at women like me every fucking day.
Anything for that sweet, sweet puss ey'.
Well aren't you empowered.
Luckily, I do not throw myself at women. That is how not to get laid save with the most desperate and unstable. I grew out of one night stands and fwbs sophomore year of college anyway. A relationship has much more to offer.
>Obviously not. Look at the male dominated society. The patriarchy as you call it.
Unless you live in the middle east or africa society is not a patriarchy. And i was speaking in terms of biology anyway.
>And yet, I and men like me still manage to have sex with attractive women. The secret? Personality and charisma.
You can't even speak to a woman irl, but nice try. You give off mad elliot rodger vibes.
>Yet neither can survive into the future without each other.
Women can survive without men, all they are needed for is sperm that's it.
No real argument?
Women can't sustain a civilization on their own.
>>29590>Unless you live in the middle east or africa society is not a patriarchy. And i was speaking in terms of biology anyway.
Yet the majority of positions of power are held by men. But yes, a woman generally can decide who to mate with, unless they are raped.
>You can't even speak to a woman irl, but nice try.
The shitslinging begins.
>You give off mad elliot rodger vibes.
Should I stop using big words and articulating my arguments and instead stoop to your level and leave replies like "hurr durr I bet u can't get girls"?
>Women can survive without men, all they are needed for is sperm that's it.
In other words, neither can survive into future generations without one another.
You're delusional though. If womyn are so strong and don't need no men then why are the majority heterosexual and in or seeking a relationship with a man?
>he thinks he's been using big words
I really, really do pity you if to you you're an example of extensive lingual articulation.
My degree is shredding tears in the wall.
Who gave you a degree? Your post doesn't even make sense.
But you know, it's not the words I'm using, it's that you choose to imagine an autist behind a keyboard, so anything I say will give you an "elliot rodger" vibe.
You'd like to believe that wouldn't you but the truth is I spent most of my childhood in social care and entered university aged 21 as a mature student after returning to higher education under my own volition and achieving straight distinctions. And basically that's why I'm better than you.
I'm imagining some disgusting lump living at home having mummy pay all his utilities and Internet bills and still bringing him his meals.
You ever actually worked a day in your life boy?
Typical American male, can't imagine that a world exists outside of the US.
To clear things up I >>29647
am not >>29635>>29654>>29658
But congrats on being a self made stronk womyn who's somehow better than normal people who go to college (I'm assuming that anon is in college) immediately after high school.
Why do you keep assuming that all women study these subjects exclusively?
This is why nobody likes men.
Well those are the fields that women go into. It's just more statistically likely than not.
Don't get so butt hurt, your accounting degree is acceptable.
Yeah, in the 1950's-1970's.
What era are you living in boy?
Academia is one of the biggest scams of our time.
I understand. I'm not one of those people, you just made it seem like you considered yourself high and mighty because you are a self made woman.
I'm juggling shitposting and banging out online requirements that I've put off for 4 years, though I do use the Bangladeshi Board of Potty-Humor Review and Improvement a bit.>>29684
I got a welding degree for lulz
I've never been much interested in that stuff on /r9k/. I go there because it's the only general discussion board asides from /b/.
Believe what you want about men, it's understandable you'd have reservations, especially if you've suffered abuse or harassment when you were younger, but I'm just saying both sides, when the hyperbolic shit is stripped away, have cause to be unhappy.
The most sociopathic person on /r9k/ is a particular girl who runs a particular Skype group in any event.
>>29699>So who are the good men then?
I honestly have no idea.
I think a lot of /r9k/'s stuff is ironic in a roundabout way.
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Picture extremely related.
Why do girls like sailor moon so much?
This is the phenomena I witness in the typical failed manchild>bitterness and hatred, typically expressed at everybody outside of their race. they hate women in particular for not showing them unwarranted affection>socially stunted from a childhood spent on the internet and video games>without any accomplishments to their name, they cling to ideas of nationalism and racial power. they adopt the achievements of their ancestors to make up for their failure in life>similarly to the above, they become heavily attached to fiction and history, in particular stories or war and the concepts of brotherhood, honor, loyalty. they typically get on a soapbox and preach about the 'good men of the past (virtually all soldiers WWII and further back)', men being honorable, loyal, brave, etc. they worship the archetypical ideal man, yet often don't even attempt to actually emulate his traits. the ones that often rant about the inherent logic and intelligence of men are usually the ones constantly jumping to conclusions and making assumptions based off anecdotes>they congregate in spaces of like-minded people, like /r9k/, and create a culture of failure that shuns achievement and success, and what lets them spread the above ideas. they rationalize that they are somehow superior to those better in life, usually by thinking they are more intelligent or that there is some sort of karma for failing in life>insist they are good people at heart, that they are the only true people with morality left in the world, despite often being hypocrites: I've seen men frequently characterize cheating and lying women as the most heinous people around yet will quickly rush to the defense of cheating and lying men. some of them believe being male has assigned them some sort of override over the stigmas and prejudices they assign to other people, and they don't see any problem with this breach in logic>as mentioned above, they rely heavily on anecdotal evidence and ignore all anecdotes that run counter to their arguments
You might notice the large amount of similarities to the failed women seen on tumblr and elsewhere. Failed men and women are polar opposites in some areas yet very similar in many others.
>>29707>>similarly to the above, they become heavily attached to fiction and history, in particular stories or war and the concepts of brotherhood, honor, loyalty. they typically get on a soapbox and preach about the 'good men of the past (virtually all soldiers WWII and further back)', men being honorable, loyal, brave, etc. they worship the archetypical ideal man, yet often don't even attempt to actually emulate his traits. the ones that often rant about the inherent logic and intelligence of men are usually the ones constantly jumping to conclusions and making assumptions based off anecdotes
I realize this is pathetic, and I see the phenomenon you're referring to, but can you understand why men feel an attraction to that sort of scenario? It's very intrinsic/biological/perennial. Obviously it's laughable when they compare themselves to the likes of Caesar or Alexander or something, but the desire to me says that too many people have been cut off from the tap root of what is natural.
>insist they are good people at heart, that they are the only true people with morality left in the world
Anon, this goes for both male and female nerds. Both groups always claim they're "actually really nice" and that "other people don't understand them". Whilst there are segments of both groups that both say this and perhaps have a point (in particular people who are highly introverted), the more likely explanation is that they're intensely unpleasant people and find it hard to get along with anyone as a result.
>without any accomplishments to their name, they cling to ideas of nationalism and racial power. they adopt the achievements of their ancestors to make up for their failure in life
/pol/ and /r9k/ tend to dislike one another. So I don't believe this. The average 4channer is just a "liberal who happens to dislike feminism" in my experience, look at those retarded GGers, the vast majority were politically on the left.
We get it, but it doesn't make it any less pathetic.
The casual male has appeared to have foregone all sense of personal responsibility for their past, present and future, and as a result we have… well, you.
The age of man is over.
>>29709>I realize this is pathetic, and I see the phenomenon you're referring to, but can you understand why men feel an attraction to that sort of scenario? It's very intrinsic/biological/perennial. Obviously it's laughable when they compare themselves to the likes of Caesar or Alexander or something, but the desire to me says that too many people have been cut off from the tap root of what is natural.
There's nothing inherently wrong with it, it usually just goes hand-in-hand with the rationalization of failure or in arguments for the natural superiority of man. Even if the person making the argument doesn't have a single accomplishment in life, their heroes of the past do, and they try to act as if they are one and the same. They use those successful men as arguing points, not as actual role models.
>Anon, this goes for both male and female nerds. Both groups always claim they're "actually really nice" and that "other people don't understand them". Whilst there are segments of both groups that both say this and perhaps have a point (in particular people who are highly introverted), the more likely explanation is that they're intensely unpleasant people and find it hard to get along with anyone as a result.
As I pointed out, a lot of those points I mentioned are present or have similar presence in failed women. Failed men and women view each other almost identically. Failed men see women as immoral, selfish, sex-craving beasts, and failed women see men as immoral, selfish, sex-craving beasts. You are right in that many of them tend to be unpleasant people or become unpleasant people by conforming to the culture of failure.
>/pol/ and /r9k/ tend to dislike one another.
It seems like both boards have a lot more crossover than either prefers to admit, but that's just my perspective. If nothing else, they possess some similar traits.
>>29714>There's nothing inherently wrong with it, it usually just goes hand-in-hand with the rationalization of failure or in arguments for the natural superiority of man. Even if the person making the argument doesn't have a single accomplishment in life, their heroes of the past do, and they try to act as if they are one and the same. They use those successful men as arguing points, not as actual role models.
Fair enough. I understand. They take this and use it as a weak rhetorical device.
>You are right in that many of them tend to be unpleasant people or become unpleasant people by conforming to the culture of failure.
Yep, I speak from personal experience, in both regards.
There are some utterly horrible people on /r9k/, men and women, who deserve to be alone. Simple as that.
There are also some diamonds in the rough. A few of whom I've had the pleasure of knowing.
>It seems like both boards have a lot more crossover than either prefers to admit, but that's just my perspective. If nothing else, they possess some similar traits.
Perhaps. I'm /pol/ but I dislike /r9k/.
but tbh, most men are immoral sex craving beasts. older men, younger men, nerds, 'chads', all of then place a very large emphasis on sex. that's why we're all told that "men are pigs", by our own fathers, at a young age. because most men are, unfortunately, opportunistic douchebags. the majority of men i come across irl are sex obsessed and morally bankrupt. in my experience, for the most part, only those within academic circles or social circles based in activism aren't, really.
This is what I don't get about you lolcow, well, one of the most salient examples anyway.
In my dating experience women have far, far filthier, more violent, more "depraved" sexual fantasies than men, and often (not always, but often) "good sex" is an integral part of the relationship in a way it isn't for men (men aren't as fixated on qualitatively evaluating sex, maybe because we get off easier?)
To elaborate, I think robots are more likely to visit /pol/ rather than the other way around, but members of /pol/ are more likely to dislike robots because /pol/ doesn't idolize failure like /r9k/ tends to.
To answer your original question, I think the internet and, to a lesser extent, the insular culture of video games and general nerdiness, played a huge factor in raising a sizable minority of men (and some women) like this. Smartphones making this available for more people and at younger ages, and social media and the schizophrenic-like effect it has on normal people are continuing to contribute to this.
I was just discussing this over at /r9k/ actually. The internet can be so debilitating that it actually impedes your ability to entertain yourself, providing you with a literally endless timesink to pour hours into where you don't really do anything productive, and either engage in risk-free ersatz social interaction or argue with literal 16 year olds. Part of the problem is convenience too, although 4chan likes to bitch about it, back in the day if you wanted to join an actual forum for legitimate discussion of say, video games, you did used to have to attempt to fit into some functional social norms (no trolling or shitposting for example).
Some registration forums were excellent.
I think some of it has to do with abuse issues in youth, based on my anecdotal experiences. Still, I don't know how to feel about it. I won't deny that porn has in some ways conditioned me to like what could be construed as abusive and aggressive sex, but women seem to be apeing an interest in it just as much.
>if anal sex wasn't pushed by porn the way it is, very few women would be having anal sex.
See this is a particularly good example. I've met women who would swear to you they really do love anal.
There's also the fact that "sex positivism" is almost exclusively led by women. Whenever I criticize porn, the porn industry and the effects porn has on our minds, it tends to be women who attack me - not men. A lot of women genuinely believe using porn every day is indicative of a "healthy sexuality". It's sad. >>29723
Right, you feel naked without the internet. It's escapism, but without any of the actual edification of say, reading a decent novel.
even if they're taking an interest, i still find it hard to believe it's an authentic interest free of societal pressure for most of them. and i do think abuse can help cultivate that interest in abusive/aggressive sex.
>really do love anal
yup. and again, i could be wrong, but it smells like bullshit whenever they say this. i mean, physiologically, it doesn't make much sense. if anal stimulates the vagina, why not just use the vagina? there's no prostate. how you could enjoy this? i think it's a straight up lie in almost all cases. it's like taking a dick-length shit, but on repeat. why would that feel good? i don't buy it. whenever you see a woman talking about how much she loves anal, she tends to really make her sexuality part of her personality. again, pressure.
>exclusively led by women
yes. i think this is actually really harmful, and i think it's basically the result of women trying to make feminism more palatable to more women, and men. it's obvious porn and sex work is damaging, to both the workers, and women that are expected, in real life, to meet an unrealistic standard that caters almost exclusively to men and their wants. why are women pretending that it's not harmful, to both men, and women? it is sad, you're right.
i really don't know how this weird wing of feminism got to be accepted, but it basically just boils down to women defending being sexualized, and rebranding it as conscious desire. it's stupid.
Yeah, and as you said, it's a limitless source of escapism, always generating new trivial content to consume. I don't know when, or if ever, mainstream society will realize this (especially seeing as it's only truly embraced the internet in the past 5-10 years), but I hope it happens soon.
Regarding porn, I don't have much to say on it. I think excessive consumption of it can warp your perception of reality. Sex-positive and sex-negative feminists are always going to be clashing, and as such the discussion of pornography and sexuality are going to be relevant in the discussion of feminism for a long time. Personally, I find glorifying excessive sexualization to be potentially dangerous, similar to how some advocates for racial justice are attempting to wave off crime and unlawfulness as just a part of black or minority culture that should be accepted.
You're going to get radically different responses from different women on this matter though, it's fairly controversial.
>>29736>and i do think abuse can help cultivate that interest in abusive/aggressive sex.
Yes. This seems to be more often the case if you're talking about an interest in it that seems to come from them, rather than from porn or a desire to be seen as a sex kitten of some kind.
On that note, do women really feel pressure to "keep up with" the sorts of women their boyfriends are watching in porn and so on?
>why are women pretending that it's not harmful, to both men, and women?
Because it's easy to cast genuine male concern for women, particularly women that are close to them, as "patriarchal expectations" or whatever.
On that note, do you understand why men, particularly men with young female relatives (sisters, daughters etc) feel the need to protect them? Can you understand, without meaning to seem to rude, why some men believe women need protecting from what they are natural females instincts of being overly trusting and gullible?>>29739>I think excessive consumption of it can warp your perception of reality.
It really can. It's such a shame.
How would you know?
Fathers get protective as hell over their daughters
That's more about the fathers worrying that their daughters' actions will cast the parents in a bad light.
Personally I don't believe that humans have the capacity to "genuinely love." That goes for men and women.
No, some are but not all. You should respect your father, barring him being a complete abusive lunatic though. Fathers want the best for their daughters.>>31544
That's part of it, but it's not solely that. Most genuinely care on a deep level.
No because like 90% of you are trash so chances are, as a male, you're trash too.
Like your entire gender is just horrible. HORRIBLE, with some occasional good guys in between. I'm so glad I found one of them as my partner but if we ever split up I'm just dating girls from herein.
Most men are good people. Care about women. Are empathetic if women have problems. Are romantic etc.
And not to seem crude, but other women can't satisfy women sexually like men can.
In the /mlp/ fandom.
But no, seriously. Most men deeply love women - women's nature is very adorable (emotional, more prone to crying, love of animals, maternal instinct, less overtly sexual) - men like these things about women.
Although I'll admit most of us have a bit of a madonna whore dichotomy going on that can lead to problems or even cheating.
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>>31745>women's nature >biotruths
>In the /mlp/ fandom>>31718>And not to seem crude, but other women can't satisfy women sexually like men can.
you obviously have no clue about female sexuality outside of porn, which exists to please you, anyways, so that's totally inaccurate and useless as an educational tool. you realize lesbians are more sexually satisfied than hetero women, right? that's a fact. a cock doesn't make a woman cum. porn isn't real life. in porn, women are ~PRETENDING~ to be able to cum from just getting fucked. 70% of women don't cum from sex.>>31760
this. look at r9k, even. obsessed with appearance "qts", "all i want is an 8/10 qt u.u"… even guys that are fucking hideous feel they are entitled to hot girls. very few on r9k actually give a shit about having an actual emotional connection outside of "we'd play video games, cuddle, and have sex! true love!!!".
>a cock doesn't make a woman cum
^this, it's so true, but I wish it wasn't.
It's weird that most men don't know this, that the overwhelmingly vast majority of women simply cannot orgasm through penetration. I usually finish myself off after sex with my partner with him lying next to me. It's a pretty decent arrangement.
>>31879>no understanding of love
Do you understand men tend to tense up about emotional stuff as we don't want to come across as overly emotionally indulgent? We don't want to seem "beta" in short.
As someone who has dated every conceivable type of girl and fucked up every time, I'm genuinely interested in what you have to say, but if you just sit there being insulting I'm not really sure there's anything valuable I can glean.
I want to marry a woman given that I'm nearly hitting the big three o now, but my problem is the madonna/whore complex. I don't know how to break free of it.
You don't get it. The closest equivalent for women would be something like, say, preferring strong alpha men for sex and milder, less violent men for relationships.>>31954
I admit my mistakes. I fucked a younger girl once, and I don't deny I basically took advantage of someone young and gullible in the process. I cheated another time some years ago. That's it though.
disgusting. you're disgusting. so you want to fuck sluts, but you can't keep up sexual attraction to those "saintly" girls, right? that's the type of madonnna-whore complex we're talking about, right?
yeah, gross. you're gross. the reality is that no one good probably wants you, because cheating is disgusting, and the fact that you pretty much only sexually desire people that fuck indiscriminately means you're trash.
>>31969>most women have been pressured into doing a lot of "slutty" shit to please men, unlike men, whose lives fucking revolve around getting laid and trying to find women to please them.
I'm not a woman, so I have no way of verifying this.
What exactly do you mean? A lot of slutty women seem to use it as a coping mechanism, but a lot seem to physically love the sex too. >>31968
You're helpful and kind.
Ah. Yeah. I'm guilty of that too.
But we spoke about this in another thread I think. Whenever I criticize porn, or trashy/raunch culture, it is always and I mean ALWAYS women who defend it under the guise of "sex positivity".
I'm not, I realize women are more gullible than men (call me a troll if you want, but I'll never stop believing this) and that's why I believe they need to be protected by fathers, older brothers etc.
Provided the industry gives them their coke money, most girls happily defend it.
You're pretty much just proving the man haters in this thread right btw>>32004
Maybe he should be single so he can enjoy his kiddy porn and dog rape porn alone in peace.
>>32007>You're pretty much just proving the man haters in this thread right btw
Is it really so hard for you to believe that a lot of men are motivated by a genuine love of women? I stopped watching porn precisely because I couldn't help but think "this is someone's daughter or sister, and they would probably be mentally and emotionally destroyed if they found out".
Not to mention what the girl goes through later on in life. Watch some of Luke Ford's stuff, he's a cool guy who worked in the porn industry for a while but was honest about how awful it was. Also an Orthodox Jew convert for some odd reason.
That's right, but it doesn't mean it doesn't affect me knowing these girls are somebody else's sister or daughter.
I have a pretty patriarchal view of women, but it's in no way malicious. I just think women need to be protected.
Not "babies", just overly trusting and naive about what porn actually is, what it entails and what it will do to you.
If you aren't white I don't really care what you do with yourself though in all honesty.
You don't need white men, black men are devoted fathers, husbands and…
Who said anon was black? I swear you're obsessed with black and Asian men.
Did you have two gfs that left you for men of those respective races? Repressed homosexual feelings? Some misplaced feeling of competition even though you're a neckbeard who was trouble competing with his own fellow white men as it is?
Either way, it's pathetic. You're pathetic.
>>31718>women can't satisfy women sexually like men can.
As I bisexual woman I know from experience that you are so very, very wrong.
Just another example of how arrogant and self centered men are lol
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Dudes think pumping their dicks in and out of the vagina is the #1 best most stimulating feeling a woman can have and that we absolutely LUST and go crazy after even though vaginal orgasms rarely occur compared to clitoral ones. Coincidentally they don't ever want to eat pussy so who are they kidding? Lel
Well, lucky you. There's no way of telling how generous a man is in bed before you actually sleep with him. I've been with my boyfriend 5 years and the sex is beyond terrible. The only other guy I had sex with was addicted to porn and was even worse (couldn't get hard and came in literally 1 minute not joking).
At least masturbation exists smh.
You'll probably not believe this, but I've had a girl I slept with tell me that eating out a girl is for betas before. A girl. Not a guy.
That's partly why I'm a bit reticent about revealing my love-pussy-eating powerlevel to girls tbh.
I hate to be the mirror image of >>21641
but I would probably hate men if I was a woman. I don't experience the same degree of harassment as a typical girl in an urban area, but I've had enough violent macho bullshit thrown my way to really dislike most men and the masculine culture some of them follow, especially the older generations.
Here is something I don't get about the stereotypical masculine culture I'm hoping some guys here can explain to me. Whenever a discussion arises concerning the declining amount of men in university I see some people say that female-targeted scholarships is the cause. Despite the fact that those aren't nearly as widespread as some people believe, my university had a lot of scholarships open to pretty much everyone that nobody applied for, one of my computer science professors threw a bit about it at one point. But even back in high school I'd say easily two-thirds of the honors and honors gifted kids were girls. What I noticed in the guys at my school and elsewhere was a subset of their broad group culture that discouraged intelligence and academic success and encouraged stupidity for the sake of stupidity. I noticed smart guys getting jeered and hounded by their peers for their success in a way I didn't see happen to other girls. The jocks weren't prominent at my school but they did exist and they were loud and proud of their average or below average grades. In college that dropped off and I noticed my male colleagues collaborating and encouraging each other more often, but that required them avoiding that culture of failure in the first place in the past. On the internet I see forums with a heavy male presence (almost all of them you could argue) lash out at anybody that doesn't buy into a forum's culture of speaking in buzzwords and assumptions, intentionally encouraging groupthink. /r9k/ is a prominent example, but it's not the only one.
Again, this is just my perspective, and I'd appreciate any guys here lending their's.
>>32427>Whenever a discussion arises concerning the declining amount of men in university I see some people say that female-targeted scholarships is the cause. Despite the fact that those aren't nearly as widespread as some people believe, my university had a lot of scholarships open to pretty much everyone that nobody applied for, one of my computer science professors threw a bit about it at one point.
It's a lot easier for men to make a decent income from a trade than it is for a woman. I'm pretty sure that men, on average, make more money than women with the same degree and GPA as them. College is less of a necessity.
>But even back in high school I'd say easily two-thirds of the honors and honors gifted kids were girls.
Women doing better in school isn't a new thing. Women are raised to be a lot more obedient than men are, and this discipline leads to good study habits later on. From an early stage, we excuse rowdiness with "boys will be boys" and such. For males, disruptive behavior is less punished.
>What I noticed in the guys at my school and elsewhere was a subset of their broad group culture that discouraged intelligence and academic success and encouraged stupidity for the sake of stupidity.
It's not really stupidity for the sake of stupidity, they're showing off. When kids hit puberty, social hierarchies become more prominent than ever before. In the case of boys, they're trying to show off how brave, strong and sexually desirable they are… this kind of spontaneous, headfirst attitude is completely at odds with anything intelligent. Girls have more complex peer hierarchies emerge at this time, too, but since being loud and boisterous is considered a "manly" thing, it's less likely to fuck with their academic performance.
>I noticed smart guys getting jeered and hounded by their peers for their success in a way I didn't see happen to other girls.
Good old anti-intellectualism.
>In college that dropped off and I noticed my male colleagues collaborating and encouraging each other more often, but that required them avoiding that culture of failure in the first place in the past.
It does change. Towards late high school and early university, most guys tend to settle down, but you're right - it's a bit late.
>On the internet I see forums with a heavy male presence (almost all of them you could argue) lash out at anybody that doesn't buy into a forum's culture of speaking in buzzwords and assumptions, intentionally encouraging groupthink.
I think this is generally more of a group thing than a man thing. Men are just louder and people generally respect our opinions more. When communities of people with even remote similarities get together, some casual discussion will take place, a lot of it will be inevitably be whining, and people start circlejerking each other over similar "feels" without considering their cognitive biases and tendency to confirm what they want to believe.
Thanks for your input.
>It's a lot easier for men to make a decent income from a trade than it is for a woman. I'm pretty sure that men, on average, make more money than women with the same degree and GPA as them. College is less of a necessity.
That's certainly true and something I didn't give much thought to. It's more important to see what degrees college students are going for rather than simply how many are going if you're looking for a measure of success, I think.
>Women are raised to be a lot more obedient than men are, and this discipline leads to good study habits later on.
I guess it's hard to compare this to much, especially since we're talking without statistics right now, but I'm curious as to how much other factors, such as income, race, etc. play into this. While I felt my own parents were rather lax (in more of a good way than bad) with both my brother and I academically, I did notice a lot of my friends mentioned the pressure they had from their parents to do well in the school. The ones from single parent families or otherwise dysfunctional, split up families seemed to have less pressure and desire to do well, too.
>In the case of boys, they're trying to show off how brave, strong and sexually desirable they are… this kind of spontaneous, headfirst attitude is completely at odds with anything intelligent. Girls have more complex peer hierarchies emerge at this time, too, but since being loud and boisterous is considered a "manly" thing, it's less likely to fuck with their academic performance. Girls have more complex peer hierarchies emerge at this time, too, but since being loud and boisterous is considered a "manly" thing, it's less likely to fuck with their academic performance.
Well, I think maybe you could characterize it as girls having a more passive social system set up as opposed to the proactiveness encouraged by the boy's system, for the same reasons you mentioned: men are expected to be active and forward with women. I'll touch on this in a second. Girls were expected to be more quiet and cute, and while I think my high school was fairly liberal in this regard (there being a lot of platonic friendships between men and women despite these differences, especially at the gifted level), it was definitely noticeable around junior high.
>It does change. Towards late high school and early university, most guys tend to settle down, but you're right - it's a bit late.
I guess my question is, do you view this as a problem? I've noticed one of the frequent topics brought up in the discussion of masculinity is the rowdiness and aggression of boys and young men. Some argue it's beneficial for growth and shouldn't be restrained, others say it alienates the boys that don't fit in and brings on that culture of anti-intellectualism. It seems like a very contested issue in men's spheres of discussion.
>I think this is generally more of a group thing than a man thing.
Yeah, you're right, I suppose the reason I mention men specifically is just because more niche discussion forums on the internet (places like Facebook and Twitter are just too broad) tend to have a higher population of men, so it stuck out more to me. The internet's a big enabler of groupthink and preaching radical rhetoric without any counterpoints because you scare off everybody from the outside.
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>chads and betas
>women in general
Tell me this, how come a loser female can get a loving boyfriend but a loser male can't? Realistically, even if a woman is alone now, she will get someone if she makes a dating profile, no matter how fat, poor, boring and ugly she is, but a man won't, ever. I know how, a loser male has nothing to offer while a loser female can still offer that false sense of romance that only men feel, the one where they can love a person for being a person, also she doesn't have to last long or be good at sex, be financially stable or even interesting for her to get a beta boyfriend, and that will never happen to men. Awaiting hypocrites.
some men dont care what they stick their dick in as long as they can stick their dick into something. a woman is wired at a primal level to be more choosy about who she has sex with because of what genes will be passed to her child. even in the wild males have to compete for a female, while females pick who they want to share their genes with, leaving some males to never mate.
i dont understand why guys have such a hard time getting this concept. women aren't being asshole hypocrites for not settling with an ugly loser. it goes against their basic, instinctive, years of evolution based brain waves, man. a woman loser would rather be forever alone then allow a bottom feeder level man fuck her, its in the female DNA.
Because loser females are usually shy and cute. Loser males on the otherhand are greasy psychotic douchebags. Girls who have a hard time getting any don't usually take it out on men but guys like this always do. >>32730
Of course men care about romance, It's even more valued, why do you think there are way more male virgins than women? They can obviously fuck a prostitute, go to a party, fuck a drunk girl, and do shit like that if they just wanted sex.>>32732>shy and cute
That only goes in Watamote>>32733
Nice thesis, oh wait, there was none. Tell me how that is.
Also guys you need to understand this there is a difference between meeting a guy who only calls you when he wants sex and being In a relationship.
I will admit it's easier for girls to get sex but as soon as the sex is done expect that guy to ignore you for a month or so until he gets horny again
>>32728>Realistically, even if a woman is alone now, she will get someone if she makes a dating profile
Well, speaking of pure statistics, there are more men than women on dating sites. Not every site has an extreme gap like Ashley Madison but men outnumber women pretty handily on Tinder.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to get at here. It feels like you're trying to make a point proving that women can't be robots, but you're not even on the right board.
do men write romance novels? do men read romance novels? do they like romance movies? do they go to romance movies? yeah no. woman like romance, they love romance and want to be LOVED, not fucked.
and again. the reason why there are more angry male virgins is because it goes against the female instinct to have sex with a subpar man. it would be the same as a straight person trying to be aroused by the same sex, you can't just make yourself be attracted to something your biology refuses to see as attractive.
>>32737>there are more men than women on dating sites
And why do you think is that?>>32739
Yeah, duh. My most frequent anime and manga is romance for instance, and I've seen more than 250 anime, only 50 manga but It's the majority, and a ton of other guys have done that, too.
>your biology refuses to see as attractive.
Exactly why I'm annoyed. If men can love anyone but women can't, then women can't actually love.
Because men are the type to branch out as far as possible to increase your chances. I'm not denying women have it easier getting sex.
You dodged my question though: what point are you trying to make here?
>>32742>Exactly why I'm annoyed. If men can love anyone but women can't, then women can't actually love.
This, basically. I'm annoyed that women can be loved for who they are and men can't. >>32743
Why don't they cherish sex? Why not wait for the one? TONS of men who cherish it. I even gave an example before.
Because most guys only want sex and after they realize they won't get it easily they give up and label the girl as a bitch.
Most guys on online dating sites aren't serious about dating, they just want hook ups.
It's easy to find sex but finding a man who wil genuinely love you as a person is near impossible.
this. the majority of men do NOT want to be a "boyfriend." they want to fuck. that is it, plain and simple. they jump through hoops to fuck, they pretend to love a girl to fuck, they pretend to enjoy romancing a girl to fuck. that's it.
men are far less capable than females of loving. i don't see how you can say females can't love when they are wired to love. why? they are wired to love and take care of their children. men have no interest in children beyond the fact they passed on their genes.
men don't fucking love. and don't you >>32741
tell me you want to fall in love, you don't. you want a girl to love YOU. so you can fuck her.
>>32745>Because most guys only want sex and after they realize they won't get it easily they give up and label the girl as a bitch.
I just explained how a ton of guys don't only want sex. There are a ton of men who search for "romance" in dating websites, It's just that women aren't interested in "worthless" or men that can't offer anything, such as sex, finance or "entertainment".>>32747>this. the majority of men do NOT want to be a "boyfriend." they want to fuck. that is it, plain and simple. they jump through hoops to fuck, they pretend to love a girl to fuck, they pretend to enjoy romancing a girl to fuck. that's it.
AND this is exactly why I said that Misandry only includes Alphas and Betas, you don't fucking know anything besides a male who is socially efficient, holy shit. The example of male virgins is also inevitable.
I have always only wanted a romantic relationship, and a lot men I know too. IF I wanted to fuck her, don't you think I would've done it already? Don't you think I can spare a few bucks to fuck a prostitute, or barge in a party uninvited when everyone is drunk? I'm willing to die a virgin but I won't fuck someone whom I don't respect or someone who doesn't respect me. Women are so ignorant on this.>>32749
It's not, I included "beta" men too. Your dad probably has one of the qualities of being entertaining, at least financially stable, and just having some social standing, at all. Omega and Gamma men who don't give anything such as money, sex, good looks or the entertainment women are searching for, are basically WORTHLESS to them, while women that can't offer anything are not worthless to men.>>32751>>32750
Again speaking for "most men", a.k.a. Alphas and Betas, you people don't even consider the other type of men. You can find them everywhere.
you are in your own little world man if you think men like you are not a very VERY small minority.
woman who use men are also a very small minority. they are the girls good enough looking to get the good looking guys. average and ugly girls can't get the men they are wired to find attractive. and if an attractive man does notice them, its only to fuck. they don't get the love they crave either. how do you think that feels? WOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING! THE SAME FRUSTRATION! THE SAME BITTERNESS!
you don't think plain/ugly girls suffer, dreaming of being loved by a man they are attracted to? they also remain virgins. cry me a fucking river you low test beta faggot.
Most women don't have high standards at all. Most just one a decent guy with an ok job, they don't need to have the body of a Greek god(skinnyfat is good enough). most women are picky because they know if they are "easy" they will get fucked in the ass and they can't even complain about it "because it's just sex, you were the dumb ass who gave it up too soon".
A lot of these guys who are single but claim they want a relationship are also assholes who will turn down perfectly good women because they perceive her as dumb and lower than them. The reason you may be single is because you think you are better than a lot of woman.
>>32753>Your dad probably has one of the qualities of being entertaining
He is pretty quiet.>at least financially stable
My dad can't work anymore, my mom makes the money.>just having some social standing
You're putting yourself in a corner here. You label a class of men as completely worthless and then blame other people for it. You realize that nobody sane or with some self-respect wants to enter a relationship where the other partner offers absolutely nothing, right? Those relationships aren't happy ones and typically don't end happy.
You're so caught up in hating yourself that all you're doing is thinking in black/white scenarios and obsess over these things so much you surrender your chance at being in a relationship or being happy in general. The world isn't as simple and one-dimensional as /r9k/ portrays it, you need a reality check.
adding to this, at least an ugly man can make himself desirable with a good personality and money.
what can an ugly woman do? nothing. guys don't care about personality. the only choice she has is ugly guys with nothing to offer, because the ugly guys WITH something to make up for their ugliness caught decent looking girls.
an ugly girl has nothing to offer and no way to improve herself. having a lot of money makes men feel inferior and they will resent her. so what can she do? she settles for being forever alone.
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oh and before someone says "she can get plastic surgery!"
a guy finds out a girl had plastic surgery and its suddenly "vain bitch! gross! i only like natural girls. she's plastic! she's shallow!!"
and there is only so much a plastic surgeon can do to improve a person's looks. its not a magic wand.
Then why aren't there more women virgins? There are a ton men like me, they're just seen as worthless in women's eyes.
>WOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING! THE SAME FRUSTRATION! THE SAME BITTERNESS!>you don't think plain/ugly girls suffer, dreaming of being loved by a man they are attracted to? they also remain virgins
Lmao, "they are attracted to", just shows how shallow women are. Even if a guy is average-looking, they just want way different things. Women aren't capable of loving just anyone whom opinions and ideologies they respect, but men can.>>32755
There are other qualities to search in a man. The only thing I've searched for is someone to respect me and my ideologies and opinions, but women obviously don't want only that.>>32756
Then It's because he used to work and be more entertaining, and they stayed together for you. Plus, it would obviously seem bad if your mother abandoned your crippled, or whatever illness he has-father. Most older people give up on finding new relationships at a certain age, and who knows if your mom didn't cheat on him. I label that class of men as worthless, worthless in women's eyes, not mine.
>You realize that nobody sane or with some self-respect wants to enter a relationship where the other partner offers absolutely nothing, right?
I already explained that.
What? I don't hate myself, I like who I am, that's exactly why I'll never change to satisfy someone else.>>32757>>32758>What can an ugly woman do?
I told you, I've seen a ton of fat women have beta men, A TON, on the internet, have made fake dating profiles before and have gotten attention, in-real-life, on videos talking about their boyfriend, my co-workers, etc.. And consider that those women don't having anything else than just being women whom some desperate beta wanted to love. >>32761
Plastic surgery is not needed, women can't worry about height so they can just get slimmer if they want a better provider.
there are FAR more women virgins than you think. i'm one of them.
you don't hear about women virgins because its not socially looked down upon to be a woman virgin. and women don't care about losing their virginity. they aren't vocally crying and complaining about it.
just because they aren't spamming the internet about their desire for cock doesn't mean they don't exist, holy shit.
>>32763>more male virgins
I didn't say there aren't female virgins. And still, you will get someone sooner or later.>>32764
Your post didn't make any sense.>>32765
Do you really want me to explain every single one? For starters, I'm not even looking for anyone to share them with, I'm not looking for anyone anymore because I know she doesn't exist, but I was looking for someone who would at least RESPECT them and acknowledge them. I'm not telling you my whole life story now, just know that It's something people and especially women don't want to comply with, and won't agree with my opinions.
I already give you the answer for that, multiple times, even. Just read my previous posts.>>32769
Nope. Just my lifestyle and opinions about life in general.
>why not wait for the one? TONS of men who cherish it.
I did wait for the one, and I even thought I found him.
Turns out he only ever wanted sex on tap, and once I stopped giving it out freely I was called a bitch and ironically a whore and he minced away to go look for his next pump.
We do this endlessly on repeat until, by chance, maybe by luck, maybe as a result of endlessly ploughing our faith into feckless, sex-crazed men, we maybe stumble across "THE ONE", but by this point guys like you will have already labelled us used-up worthless whores whilst really we've actually been trying to pursue the very thing you claim to cherish so much.
I'm expecting my logical response to be disregarded by you as with all the other responses that actually make sense, see. all of them.
Most men will never love nor pursue an ugly woman, they will only ever be sought for fucking to which after they'll be tossed aside as garbage because of their lower social standing leads them to struggle to progress in a career environment and inability to pass on aesthetic DNA.
Women are still treated as commodities based on their appearance and even in the vast majority of workplaces if two girls apply for the same job with the same application and the same academic achievements the prettier one will literally always get hired.
I think in many ways is actually more lonely than never experiencing sex or a relationship as you'll only ever be viewed as a fugly hole, nothing more.
Maybe you're unable to find somebody to respect you because you're not actually somebody deserving of any respect.
You kind of sound like a douche, dude.
That's because you only see Alphas and Betas as viable men. Did you ever consider that the men you want don't have to be really confident or have a good social standing?>>32772>>32777
I know why I'm single, to make it short, I have a shitty job, a shitty apartment, only valuable belongings would be my laptop, my hobbies are not interesting, I'm average but weird looking, a hikki (I hate going out at all, hate the beach and everything outside, even though I do it because of work or other necessary stuff), I'm a kissless virgin, an introvert, my opinions are considered harsher or pessimistic, can't offer practically anything a woman is looking for, basically. I'm not going to write it more detailed than that, not worth it.>>32774
That wasn't my only answer. Read the part about women only liking beta and alpha men, and the rest. Repeated that a shit ton of times.>>32775
Make an okcupid account and talk to some men if you're ugly, someone will want you. A really big amount of men have a fetish for fat women.>>32776
Oh yeah, I'm the douche.
>make an okcupid account and talk to some men if you're ugly, someone will want you. A really big amount of men have a fetish for fat women
I never said I myself was ugly. I actually had the good fortune of being born a very attractive female, but I'm still able to empathise wholly with those who weren't.
But again you seem to be confusing finding a man willing to fuck you with being able to find a man willing to love you. What is it about this concept that you don't quite get?
I see a lot of male robots with this problem. They seem to believe that it's impossible to be lonely or to desire a real connection with somebody if there exists men willing to stick their dick in you.
>oh yeah, I'm the douche
You have repeatedly issued throughout this thread that the female of our species is incapable of truly loving a man on the basis of respecting his inate opinions and ideologies.
How is that not a douchey thing to say.
Very astute observation. You've really hit the nail on the head with this one.
I'll be interested in hearing his response, that is if he actually chooses to address this one.
Man I spoke to a guy like that on /r9k/ once.
We were talking about swapping Skypes and maybe meeting up since we appeared to live fairly close by within the UK and had very similar interests.
However, when I mentioned that I do enjoy getting tarted up and going out on weekends with friends to drink, socialise and relieve my stress through the ancient human expression of dancing.
He immediately denounced that he no longer wanted to meet up as I sounded like a roastie party whore who got ploughed by "Chad" every weekend.
Robot's minds work in mysterious ways.
I don't know how else to categorize men, It's just a good-enough method, obviously not the best one. My parents kicked me out, I was forced to work. It's not very comfortable to live in a sub-ghetto apartment building and work a shitty job. There is no reason for me to share every single or even most of my opinions.
If you really want a romantic man, you obviously shouldn't exclude the others to be romantic regardless this method, but you can just look for a guy who's photo doesn't seem that try-hard, who might have some problems regarding society and seems more shy or quiet, and has maybe answered a lot of questions on OKCupid then there is a high chance of him being better. Men like that are easily recognizable, far too easily.>>32785
I get it right, you don't get your standards on men right. You don't accept men who are inferior per social standing.
>How is that not a douchey thing to say.
You didn't give me a good argument explaining why that isn't true. Don't make me repeat the same things I already did.>>32787>so, you're negative, you have a shitty job and apartment, you don't like going out and having fun
See, "fun" is subjective. I prefer staying inside and watching or reading something. One example why you won't understand me. Why do I have to be positive? Why can't a girl want a negative guy? I want a negative girl, why can't a negative girl want me? I know why, It's because I already explained it.>>32786
That only proves my point that they really do want something romantic. They only imply their virginity all the time because society really does shame virgin men.>>32790>>32791
Some men don't want to dance and get drunk, and detest that, like me. Not only that I think those things are really valueless, It makes you sound far too outgoing and irresponsible, like you can cheat on him any second because you were drunk or something.
You don't need to tell me that, it's one of my favourite hobbies :>
A lot of guys don't seem to get that a lot, maybe most, women do not go out on weekends and get drunk to try and find a hookup. I just do it because it's fun and it allows me to relax and maybe make new friends.
Maybe this is because when guys go out on the weekend it's almost "always" because they're looking for a pump and dump?
I've done it and know the answers, no need to waste my time doing it over and over again. >>32795
Concludes my argument.
>you don't accept men who are inferior per social standing.
No, you don't get it, but you think you do and that's actually kind of pitiable more than it is angering to be honest.
>You didn't give me a good argument explaining why that isn't true
Well here is where I completely bulldoze both statements together because when I first began dating my boyfriend whom I've been in a 9 year relationship with he was shorter than me by quite a bit. had a tiny dick, wore these horrendous glasses, was generally considerably unattractive even by robot standards but we became friends. I got to know him, I got to know those opinions and ideologies you keep waffling about and I gradually grew to love him.
Fortunately for me my feelings were very much reciprocated and we have been together ever since. I'm an incredibly lucky woman because he's honestly the best man I've ever encountered and although due to our strong personalities we find ourselves in aggressive opposition to some stances we love each other unconditionally regardless of our scraps. I would die for this man.
I get the feeling you're going to opt not to believe my personal experience, but it doesn't change the reality of my situation.
Also I should add, 2 years into the relationship he had a massive growth spurt, shot up in both height and dick so it's a total win-win for me kek
Oh my god he's such a fucking hunk, I almost want to post a picture of his bod here so everybody can fawn over how well built he is. A beautiful man with a beautiful mind. Jackpot.
>Some men don't want to dance and get drunk, and detest that, like me.
So. If we were dating I wouldn't force you to come with me. Stay at home, watch a movie, read a book, who says you HAVE to participate?
>like you can cheat on him any second because you were drunk or something
The fact you associate getting drunk and going out with random hookups and cheating only shows how sex-based your mind is.
Is that all you men ever think about?
My boyfriend doesn't like to go and get drunk either so he stays at home on the weekends when I do go out. Never desired to cheat on him even once and our relationship only benefits from the arrangement as it provides us with a small break from each other.
No, it's YOU men that consider those traits of belonging to a man of lower social standing, because every time you harp on about this Chad archetype which you use as a stand-in for the concept of the "superior" male you always include that he is 6'0"+.
Don't try and turn this around and make it a female problem, it's men that have this weird height insecurity. Don't forgot that it was a 4channer make that coined the term "manlet".
Now how about addressing the rest of my post?
Well, if you refuse to go any further, I have to make a conclusion, too. All you describe yourself as is a negative person, you don't like being around other people or going outside. In all regards, you sound like you just want to be alone. Here's a fun fact, negative people don't really get along with other negative people. They drag each other down, they get tired of each other fast. Negative people don't like other negative people because they don't like people in general. People get into relationships to uplift each other and make each other happy, that seems to be the exact opposite of what you're looking for. You say it's women's fault, but people in general tend to avoid negative people, male or female. Very, very, very few people want to be around someone that does nothing but drag them down, stifle their life, who don't like other people and don't want to be around them.
In short, you are looking for a girl to put all the time and effort in the relationship. You want someone to just enter your life and make you feel better, regardless of whether or not you make them feel better. You don't like other people, you judge all of them without knowing them, how are you surprised you are alone? You do nothing but show signs of rejecting the world and in the people in it and blame them for not spending effort to make you feel better, effort that you don't seem to want to reciprocate.
It shouldn't be a surprise girls aren't interested in you. It's less of the fact that you lack some special factor that will make you attractive to women, it's that all the signs you give off are that you are only going to make people unhappy if they hang around you. By the looks of it, this kind of personality isn't making you happy, either.
>>32805>who says you HAVE to participate?
I already explained why that's not the only reason.
It's not my mind, It's what It's naturally accepted. Don't you think that men who do the same things aren't considered irresponsible and more out-going, as well? Your boyfriend obviously might have other qualities.>>32806
I don't label them, Its assumed that PEOPLE like that would do those things. Plus, as I said there are other factors on judging that action. If it didn't make her happy, then those women who do have lots of sex wouldn't do it.>>32809
Height is a factor, but It's not the only factor. How hard is that to comprehend?? I addressed your whole post, since it was about your boyfriend being shorter than you and wearing glasses. That doesn't make him like me, he obviously has something for you to have been entertained by him, being financially stable at least or somewhat similar or other factors.
>don't you think that men who do the same things aren't considered irresponsible and more out-going, as we
No, I don't think that at all.
Does anybody else here actually think that?
>if it didn't make her happy, then those women who do have lots of sex wouldn't do it.
That's another baseless assumption though.
You ASSUME that just because men go out at weekends to engage in drunken, mindless hookups that by default that's the goal of the women that also go out.
My night actually gets temporarily spoiled whenever I'm out and a man attempts to "pick me up".
It's not a fact, I would like to have someone with which I can agree. It's not very few people. If someone came to my life and made my happy, then she would obviously be like me and that means I should make her happy as well.
>You judge all of them without knowing them
You're funny. Sour grapes maymay? Judging by action and effect, and sympathising is really easy.>>32813
You even mentioned it. Typical woman hypocrisy >>32793
>Maybe this is because when guys go out on the weekend it's almost "always" because they're looking for a pump and dump?
You forgot the whole tiny dick thing, and I mentioned those features specifically because those are primarily the three main categories an /r9k/'er will mention when describing an unattractive male.
>he's short, he has a tiny dick, wears glasses, pizza face etc., what woman is ever going to want to lay a guy like that?
I actually browse /r9k/ daily, since 2008 on the day moot first instituted it. Do you have any idea how many times I have read variations of the above greentext coming from the figures of a male robot?
>typical woman hypocrisy
Literally did not mention once that I believed men going out to drink on the weekend are irresponsible.
Typical man trying to fabricate his personal truth in statements where there are none.
Why would I move my body, eat and drink when I can do something more interesting?>>32817
LOL, how so? Why would you have sex if it doesn't make you happy?
>You ASSUME that just because men go out at weekends to engage in drunken, mindless hookups that by default that's the goal of the women that also go out.
And do they achieve those hookups??? Also, another example >>32813 >>32819
I'm not that stupid to think that dick size matters THAT MUCH. I don't know about you, but that's the values and opinions I hold about "partying".>>32820
So hooking up with random women just to have sex isn't irresponsible AND more out-going?
You didn't even read my post. Negative people don't make other negative people happy. Dislike of other people does not link together with dislike of other people: you both just dislike each other like all other people. You are looking for a mythical human being that hates everybody and everything but somehow loves you because you also hate everybody and everything. They don't exist, and the world doesn't owe you them.
What does jealousy have anything to with what I said? You keep posting in this thread about how all women only like this type of men, or how all women going out to party clearly have morally reprehensible intentions. You are the one judging half of the human population left and right.
>so hooking up with random women just to have sex isn't irresponsible AND more out-going?
Nope. It's called being young, human, and making the most out of your youth and your existence before your genitalia turns grey, shrivels up and you start breaking your hip every time you try to roll out of bed.
You should be out doing the above more in your present or I see horrible regrets waiting for you in your future.
Out of curiosity also, how old are you?
>but that's the values and opinions I hold about "partying".
That's fair enough but it's no excuse to look down upon people who do enjoy partying.
How do you feel about people looking down on you for reading? I like to read and party, my Calibre and Moonreader library is vast with classics and new literature; can a person not do both?
I wouldn't say smarter, but yes, better in the fact that I'm able to hold a principle.>>32823
Because It's worthless and valueless.>>32824
Then why would they have sex with multiple people?>>32825>Negative people don't make other negative people happy
But that's only your opinion. I know other "negative" men and it does make me happy to talk to them. If a person dislikes other people then It's most likely going to be mutual, and if you obviously hate other people you wouldn't do the things you hate them for. >>32826>It's called being young, human
L M A O, "young wild and free xD", right? Just because some people hold more meaningful values than other people that doesn't mean they're wrong.
It is. You can do both, but doing that in general just makes people seem valueless, because of doing something that repetitive and meaningless.
>then why would they have sex with multiple people?
You really can't think of any possible reason why a woman would sleep with somebody other than to make them "happy"?
As I thought. You're still very young, underdeveloped and a lot more stupider and devoid of wisdom than you believe. You'll change in a few years.
I thought I had it nailed at 21 too. I didn't. I was dumb and so are you.
>because of doing something that repetitive and meaningless.
Everything in the world is ultimately repetitive and meaningless. Those books you enjoy reading, how many people do you think have read the texts before you? How many times do you think your brain has scanned and interpreted the same words and meanings over and over and over and over.
You sound narcissistic and egotistical in a very unpleasant way.
The fact you appear to look down on everybody who isn't you is the reason why you don't have a girlfriend. If we were dating I'd be sick of you inside a day because you'd undoubtedly criticise my every action that didn't possess your prior approval.
Because other people don't, that's why. It's my principle to not have sex with people with no principles. Superiority in principles is judged by the value of condemning to flesh/carnal or more animalistic desires.>>32831
Not them, I obviously talked about women in 3D person. Women being themselves happy. Sleeping with A LOT of people for another reason than satisfying yourself and therefore being happy? Prostitution? Gold digging? What else? Give me something else.
>you're still very young>you'll change in a few years
It's easier to blame it on the age rather than give me a better arguments, isn't it? How will I lessen my values if I haven't done it at my younger age? Don't try to get out of this with just "lol youre young you'll understand XDD".>>32833
Sure it is, but that doesn't mean that your actions and your "being" should be.
Exactly why I don't bother dating.
>>32829>I wouldn't say smarter, but yes, better in the fact that I'm able to hold a principle.
You are rationalizing your unhappiness. You are doing it in the typical robot fashion by believing your unhappiness come about from being morally right. You believe that only your actions are morally correct and everybody else is unenlightened and in the wrong.
If nothing else, you are making it very clear why you are alone. You judge other people for every action they take. People aren't attracted to judgmental egotists that attach a moral superiority to their every action.
I've been to a "club", I don't like it. I hate it, in fact.>>32837
Nah, It's my rationalizing which gave me unhappiness. You didn't even tell me why I was wrong, you're just telling me that I am wrong.
>superiority in principles is judged by the value of condemning to flesh/carnal or more animalistic desires
Because humanity was built upon virtue and the preservation of humanity right :^)
Because, like, we do that, right :^)
Why would I enjoy moving my body (I have tried dancing, hate it), drinking which I don't enjoy, have meaningless sex and listen to garbage pop music in a place with people who do enjoy the things I don't? Again, don't try to get out with that, rather tell me HOW I am wrong.>>32840
You should do that.
Why are you wrong? You're hopelessly narcissistic. Listen to yourself.>Because other people don't [have principles]. Superiority in principles is judged by the value of condemning to flesh/carnal or more animalistic desires.
You're so wrapped up in yourself, you think the reason you're alone is because you're too intelligent, too morally righteous for people. You haven't offered any reasons why your principles are superior other than "other people don't have any, only I do" and "because they are". You've reached the point where even /r9k/ mocks people like you for living in a world of delusions. It sounds like the only book you ever read is Elliott Rodger's manifesto.
>It sounds like the only book you ever read is Elliott Rodger's manifesto
He says he likes reading but I doubt he's ever even gone through shit like Anna Karenina, The Bloody Chamber, Les Misérables, The Bell Jar, Flowers for Algernon, Call of the Wild, The Yellow Wallpaper or even Frankenstein.
I did tell you I've tried it. I have been drunk in a club, not simultaneously with being high, though. I don't even know why I got myself drunk when I hate alcohol, I did it to see how It's like I guess. It feels awful, you have no control over your body, you can't think straight and that's basically hell for me. It was really meaningless, even more to do it again.>>32843
You still didn't give me any meaningful argument.>>32844
I don't love myself, I think my ideologies are better. There is a reason between being arrogant and narcissistic, learn it.
>haven't offered any reasons
I did, reread my other posts. You're the one whos not offering any counter argument against those reasons.
You aren't offering any reasons, all you keep saying is, "I think they are better because they are." The closest you've given to a reason is>Superiority in principles is judged by the value of condemning to flesh/carnal or more animalistic desires.
Okay, why? You need to actually provide an argument for this, not just say it is because it is.
>There is a reason between being arrogant and narcissistic, learn it.
Well, at least you admit you're full of yourself. Another reason why girls aren't flocking to you. I'm starting to see why your parents kicked you out.
I didn't get shitfaced, but it was still uncomfortable. Not all people like to drink and get dizzy.>>32850
Why? Isn't it obvious that doing less meaningful things lowers the principle's quality? Didn't think I had to explain this.
You haven't explained yet why you believe they're less meaningful.
Give us a reason.
You need to explain why they are less meaningful. You have yet to do that. The closest you have come is>Because It's worthless and valueless.
which again, needs you to explain why. You keep running away from this.
I explained that. Sure it's not meaningful, but since you haven't killed yourself because you know It's meaningless, and you're still living then at least make your own state of being meaningful.>>32855>>32856
If It's necessary to explain, doing something that would matter, something else than just doing what your body tells you, because it means something, some restrain from your primitive and carnal desires, shows you're more than an animal which lives for nothing more than It's primitive desires, it shows some contempt and restrain from that.
>>32858>something else than just doing what your body tells you
Very funny you say that. You obey your body and your brain a lot more than you think. Have you ever felt joy reading a book or some other activity you feel principled and appropriate? You've gone and done it again, right? You become conditioned to do those activities because it sends rushes of dopamine through your body, it creates the sensation of happiness and fulfillment. Just like those other activities.>because it means something
What makes the other activities meaningless?>some restrain from your primitive and carnal desires, shows you're more than an animal which lives for nothing more than It's primitive desires, it shows some contempt and restrain from that.
Not only do you have to explain how giving in to your 'carnal and primitive desires' is somehow bad, you seem to assume that people can only dedicate to one extreme or the other. Either they are enlightened gentlemen such as yourself or mindless animals. By your logic, Socrates was an unprincipled beast because he had sex.
Because you're not thinking about anything, not thinking about anything but to have fun with the alcohol and moving your body. Do I have to rephrase myself? I'm not saying you should read, even watching something makes you think more and experience different scenarios of literature, for example.>>32861
It's better than doing the same thing again and again, without even using my brain to identify what is going on, how It's going on and etc.. There is a clear difference.>>32862
I don't have it for a reason, not just because I don't want it. I would obviously love, as I said, to have someone who shares my principles. Do I have to go through why It's meaningless to do it for nothing all over again?