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No. 221917

Like the title implies, bitch about obnoxious kids and parents here.

Yesterday, I went to Disneyland and while I was in line for Pirates of the Caribbean, the lady behind me asked me to watch her two small children while she ran to the bathroom. I said point blank I wasn't comfortable with that and she proceeded to treat me like the fucking devil. She actually fucking said "what kind of woman can't handle watching a couple kids for a few minutes?" I responded with "what kind of woman leaves her children with a complete stranger?" and she was like "how dare you!" and stormed out of line with her crotch spawn.

Even though I appropriately stood up for myself and don't feel like there's anything I should have done differently, I'm still raging about the incident. Partially because I feel like it was almost like an embodiment of the ridiculous entitlement many parents have with strangers that I've dealt with in the past. Not to mention, how it was absolutely terrible parenting. That lady had no idea what my name even was, yet she was more than happy to leave her kids with me if it saved her the extra fifteen more minutes she'd be waiting in line. Am I being unreasonable for thinking that's disturbingly irresponsible?

No. 221921

I mean, you could have just kept an eye on them for a few minutes instead of making a scene, would have been easier and over with quicker.

No. 221922

>>221921
>instead of making a scene
How is simply stating "I'm not comfortable with that" making a scene?"

I didn't want the responsibility of watching two children I didn't know, I don't see what's so wrong with that.

No. 221927

I have to agree with you, OP. That's some bad parenting for sure. I'm a mother myself and would never dream of leaving my kid with some rando at a theme park, fellow woman or not.

No. 221928

>what kind of woman leaves her children with a complete stranger?

This so much, wtf. It doesn't matter that you're another woman or not, she didn't know you. What little world does she live in to think that it's perfectly Ok to burden someone they don't know at all with that sort of responsibility?

No. 221929

I’m an asshole, so I might have agreed and then just taken them to park security and tell them a woman left them with you without telling you anything else. Then go back to enjoying the park. Let CPS handle it. Stupid shit like that is exactly how pedophiles end up walking off with kids and murdering them, like that little girl Cherish Perrywinkle.

No. 221943

>>221917

Was she American?

Her request may be acceptable in a country which literally functions on the adage "It takes a village to raise a child" but certainly not in the vast majority of the US in the 21st century (it may have been acceptable in the US of the 1950s or earlier).

No. 221947

>>221943
Yeah, she was American. I'm pretty sure she was a local too since she had an annual pass (she was wearing a lanyard that had it attached).

>>221929
>Stupid shit like that is exactly how pedophiles end up walking off with kids and murdering them, like that little girl Cherish Perrywinkle.
Oh god, I just looked her up. I'm still processing what I just read. I hate this world so fucking much.

No. 221948

>Am I being unreasonable for thinking that's disturbingly irresponsible?

No. I’m glad you called her out because you’re right. It doesn’t matter where you are in the world. You don’t ask strangers to watch your kids wtf.

My MIL does this shit. She goes to a store and leaves her kid at the Starbucks inside. She says she “knows” the people there and it’s okay because the barista will be watching.

No. 221949

>>221947
Yeah, that happenednin my city at places I’ve been to. It messed up the community for a minute. Her mom was evil, she televised the funeral for media attention and even started going to the Walmart begging people to buy her shit a while afterward.

>sad for unrelated

No. 221950

>>221949
she got her other kids taken away iirc, bipolar.

OP, i would have told her i'd watch them but not to blame me for walking away with them somewhere.

No. 221952

In the country where I live parents spanking children or being psychically agressive towards them isn't taboo so it's kinda normal for some parents to deal with their children anger like that. It's kinda depressing.

No. 221956

I work in a store that’s in a low-income area and it’s not uncommon for parents to let their kids come into our store unattended. A couple of them are okay (which makes me feel like shit anyway since their parents are letting them walk around alone in a bad town) but there is one family that is absolutely unbearable:

>three girls, two boys

>mother looks like a lunatic and 3/4 of her teeth are gone
>saw her hit the oldest daughter because she was swearing while talking to her
>when her daughters come in they are always yelling across the aisles to each other
>all of them constantly move or knock product over without putting them where they belong
>other customers have told the employees to keep an eye on the boys because they open packages/try to steal trading cards
>one day one of the boys bought something, went down an aisle with his siblings, shredded his receipt and just threw his confetti trash on the floor

I was nice to them once and let them borrow my phone to call their mother when they didn’t have one but a few weeks ago I lost my patience and kicked them out. Two of the girls bought a box of cookies and were just walking around the store eating them (yes they are also fatasses), and I caught one of the brothers opening a package of some expensive lube product. I’ve never met any other kids that act as shitty as this group.

No. 221957

>>221921
Yeah that sounds innocent enough until something happens to the brats and the crazy bitch comes back to blame OP for it.

>>221917
You did the right thing.
She was angry at you because she knew you were right but she was just too lazy to take her kids with her and lose the place in line.

No. 221962

>>221950
>>221949
I'm reading an article about it right now that's so disturbing.

>Robert H. Wood, the custody evaluator in that case, had called it “the hardest case I have had to date.” He ultimately said Cherish’s father should have primary custody because “I fear for the child’s future living with Ms. Perrywinkle.”


>Two weeks ago, Wood said he was saddened when he heard the news about Cherish, but he wasn’t completely surprised.


>“People are going to say, ‘How come nobody saw this?’ ” he said. “The answer is: Some people did.”


It seems from everything I've been reading that the system failed this poor girl every step of the way.

No. 221964

>>221962
it's because judges will almost always give custody to the mother.

No. 221965

>>221921
wtf? anon didn't make a scene the crazy parent did. some parents always act so entitled until someone clues them in that no one gives a shit about their kids. i would never ever leave my kid with someone else or watch someone else's.

i've had parents in stores ask me to watch their kids because mine is talking to them in line or something and i always tell them to fuck off because it's ridiculous, she doesn't know who i am, i could be crazy. you don't ask strangers to watch your purse for you, are your kids not as important?

No. 223251

>>221962
Jacksonville anon here, every public assistance program in the city is fucked like this. A couple weeks ago a teenager killed his grandma and buried her in the back yard and fled for Canada in her car, his parents were separated and he lived with his mother and grandmother. This city loves to stick kids with the women because it’s “the bold new city of the south” and here it’s considered their job to raise the kid bc ingrained mysoginy. Mental health is also taboo as fuck, you’re either a violent unstable asshole or you’re fine as just need to learn how to handle your emotions. There is no help for the in betweens. All the lower class people like Cherish’s mom fall through the cracks because the system is so overloaded and broken that there’s nothing anybody can do. When you’re told helping a kid in a bad situation might cost you your job and the kid might stay with the bad parent anyway, you just brace yourself for whatever may happen and hope you don’t feel too accountable when it does.

>sage for jax rant

No. 223256

>>221965
>you don't ask strangers to watch your purse for you, are your kids not as important?

Good point: maybe a good response to a stranger asking you to watch their kid is to ask for their wallet, too. That might make them stop and think.

No. 223269

>>221962
She also says in the 911 call how she let him take her to the dressing room twice and had a bad feeling about him the whole time.

What the actual fuck

No. 223271

>>223269
It’s horrible to listen to. She also said something close to “I hope he’s not raping her, that’s happened to me” to the dispatcher, and she willingly went into this guy’s van with her kids because he said he would buy them clothing at Wal-Mart. The woman who took custody of the other daughters is actually her estranged daughter that she left in Australia two decades ago. It’s such a crazy story.

No. 223277

>>223271
She’s such absolute shit, she makes Margo look like a half decent mom. But that’s my point, here you can literally throw as many red flags as you want and nobody will care until something horrible happens. Even then, they only care until something new happens and they move on and forget about it. Nothing ever changes and nothing ever will here.

No. 223289

>>223277
wow, it's disgusting listening to the 911 call and have her list all of these red flags that she just surpassed. I understand being desperate for money/food, but there were SO many things that could have been done to prevent the poor childs fate.
i feel especially sick listening to this one
>he took her to the changing room twice, i was looking at the shoes and didn't want to seem over protective, but now i'm freaking out

No. 223310

My neighbours have to little kids, the oldest is 2 and the youngest just a few months old and they're both screaming all the time.
No matter how hot or cold it is outside the mom is always in the garden with them (while their dad is out drinking)
I feel like i'm going mad; i'm supposed to study but their constant screeching leaves me completely unable to concentrate.
Whenever i tell my parents how much it annoys me they call me an asshole and that it's just natural for kids to do that and that they 'don't hurt me'…
Sorry for the vent, just thought this might be the right thread for this. Why is it so unacceptable to just not like babies? It's the same thing in trains, parents let their kids run around, they come to me and then i'm supposed to interact with them

No. 223315

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this reminds of this one time when i was a kid and i was with my friend, and my mom took us to mcdonalds. me and my friend were playing in the playground thingy and some dumb lady with two kids came up to me and my friend and asked us to watch her toddler who wore glasses while we played and left to eat or something.
anyway while we were playing the toddler falls down and breaks her glasses. her mom flips out on us and screams at us because those glasses were expensive and blah blah and she made my friend cry.
even as a kid i knew it was weird for the lady to leave that kind of responsibility on us and on top of that im pretty sure the toddler was way too young to be playing in the playground.
Like what kind of parent leaves two 8 year olds to watch their blind ass 2 or 3 year old?

No. 223325

Now I understand why my mother and her hairdresser flipped out after I walked out of the hair salon when I was 5 or 6. My mom was getting her hair cut and they didn’t notice me opening the door and going out into the plaza parking lot. A cyclist noticed me outside and walked me back in but it could have ended a lot worse.

No. 223326

I never had an experience like the ones posted but I really fucking hate how parents think relatives should love their kids and shower them with attention as much as they do. My sister has a 3 yo and I really dislike small kids and interacting with them and she knows that, but every time we see each other she keeps telling me to smile, and talk to the girl, and play with her, and "tell her a story, anon, don't you write stories all the time?"

Same shit used to happen when I was 10 and my cousin was born. Interestingly enough, nobody makes him interact with the little shit now because
>us women and our skillz with children amirite XD

No. 223348

>>223310
>Why is it so unacceptable to just not like babies?
Because all logic goes out the window when it comes to children. All babies are are screaming shitting blobs, yet people act like they're the most precious thing in the entire world when those same people usually aren't gonna give a fuck about them when they inevitably turn into adults. People see babies as these pure innocent creatures, but they're only like that because they're physically and mentally incapable of doing anything besides crying, eating, giggling, and pooping.

No. 223351

>>223315
Wtf??? I can almost understand being naive enough to think it's okay to leave your children with a random lady in line at Disneyland, but 2 eight year olds? And to have the audacity to yell at you when something predictably goes wrong? Jesus fucking Christ.

>>223325
Yeah, when I was 11 I ran away for a few hours and when I came back my mom was in tears being held by my friend's mom. I thought she was overreacting, but now that I understand the world a lot more, I totally get it. She was obviously thinking about all the horrific possibilities that are sadly very realistic.

No. 223355

It's really gross how some parents encourage their kids to have children of their own when they grow up.

No. 223359

>>223355
I know this is probably a joke, but I actually agree with it because I've known so many people who let their desire to be grandparents completely blind them to the fact their kids are horribly irresponsible and will make shit parents. They encourage their kids to spawn even when they can't even properly take care of pets, let alone a child.

No. 223370

>>223359
I was being serious lmao. But yeah, I feel like a lot of people only have kids because they feel compelled to do so. Either by their parents, or social norms.

No. 223377

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>>223310
>Why is it so unacceptable to just not like babies?
Being a woman, it always felt like people had an expectation for me to love babies and children because aren't females supposed to be unconditionally nurturing like that? Like I have some invisible hormonal chain that ties me to every baby and child I encounter.

I'd love my own future biological/adopted children, but I have not a care for other peoples' snot and shit machines. Having multiple kids and "quiverfull" is not a gift to this planet. It's the opposite.

See, and I completely tolerate children and I can find them interesting. However, babies? Ugh.
I find babies ugly. Whenever someone's like "Omg that baby is so cute" I feel like laughing out loud. Babies look like monkeys with features that will take years to grow into. Like a Mr. Potato Head.

Then, they fake crying and laughing just to get attention and have no physical capability to care for anyone other than themselves.
I don't see what's to like about that. Helpless humans who can't even communicate or have empathy are a huge burden, and the "joy" people describe seems only like tiny breaks between the baby not acting like a demanding shit for an hour. I know parents who love their children but can even admit caring for them in infancy was the worst time of their lives.
I'm not saying this as if it's supposed to be any other way, but again, strangers can't be expected to enjoy someone else's bundle of sociopathy.

And don't even get me started on martyr moms. You know the type. The ones who act like the world asked them to have kids, or that they just didn't know that parenting would be so hard!
Why don't nice men want to date them just because they have children from previous relationships and want to be financially supported?!
Saw one from my high school bitching today about her food stamps not covering enough and how being a single mom is difficult. Oh well? Who knew taking the moral highroad by becoming a teen mom and having another child with her ex husband would have been the harder choice over an abortion or adoption.

No. 223396

I had a somewhat similar experience at a Disney park when I found a little kid wandering around that had gotten lost. When I found the mother it turned out that she had left her fucking six year old in a shop by themselves and the kid had gotten confused and left, the mother didn't even seem to care that much when I eventually found her. It really pissed me off, I can't have kids so seeing parents act so irresponsible with their own children drives me nuts.

I don't hate kids at all though, I guess I can understand why people in this thread do but honestly I find the trend of hating children and babies really grating. It's fine to not want children but I've met so many people that just have to let me know how disgusting they think children are every time they're brought up at all.

No. 223411

>>223396
When babies are shoved in your face all the time it really discourages people from doing so when you state how much you dislike them, sometimes it's the only defence that works, a simple "no thanks I don't want to talk about children/see your child" doesn't work with persistent parents who think their children are the centre of everybody's world, or family members who think not wanting children is a 'faze'. I've never met someone who mentions how much they hate children, probably depends on experience, like the horror stories of 12 year olds basically raising tonnes of kids because their parents love to foster.

No. 223430

>>223377
I understand these feels so much.

I like children and they can be really funny/interesting but babies I have hard time with. I felt such guilt when my niece was a baby because I couldn't feel the "bliss". I felt very awkward holding her and would feel exhausted with her quickly.

Now she is 4 and I enjoy spending time with her. She is still in her early childhood yet already I can see she will have a great sense of humor and is a a total prankster. It's so fun talking and playing with her.

No. 223462

>>223430
Babies are really weird but toddlers are fun to watch, they're so dumb. I've worked with 6-7 year olds and the only thing that kept me going through working at a primary school was how dumb the kids could be at the simplest thing, they'd put something down, walk away for 3 minutes and complain that they lost it, hilarious.

But to all the teachers in the school that insisted I wanted children just because I liked working at a primary school, my true happiness at the end of the day was knowing that I won't ever have to look after children after the school day ends, I pity all the teachers who have to work with children all day and then go home to them too.

No. 223666

i love my new nieces and nephews, but i get super overwhelmed when they're over. the babies aren't hard because you can just talk nonsense with them, but i cannot stand being in a room with the two older ones for more than a couple of minutes. they're loud and in your face and they take advantage of their grandparents like it's no one's business. i want to tell them to start acting their age (the one is almost a teenager and still acts like a toddler most of the time) but they aren't blood-related to me so i feel as if it isn't my place. personally, i want kids, but i can't stand being around ones that aren't mine.

No. 223704

>>221921
youre fucking stupid. what if the children get hurt being assholes or if they run off? is OP supposed to chase them? fuck it. parents need to learn that literally nobody else gives a fuck about your ugly children.

No. 223714

I don't have that many horrible stories, but in the store I used to work in mothers (it was ALWAYS the mothers) used to leave their kids in the middle of the fucking aisle and we'd have some screaming little shit thrower coming up to the check out lines and taking the supervisor away to find that chick. Nothing is more annoying than having "Will Brayden McKaylay Doe's mother please some to frontline?" paged thirty times before she comes up.

Also, during the busiest times, when I have 10+ people in the line, these people have their children swipe their card for them. But They never do it right so they have to swipe 3-4 times before it goes through, making a 1 minute ordeal stretch into 4 minutes. Theres more people in the store than just you, jfc. Your toddler holding up my line isn't adorable or cute, just annoying.

No. 223718

Is the whole parents-leaving-their-children-around an American thing? Don't seem to get a lot of that where I am, just classic being loud and potentially trashing things if they aren't watched. What are the laws for leaving your kids just around, one of the (many) reasons I don't want children is because I'd be sick with worry 24/7, can't imagine suitable parents being so horrible

No. 223733

>>223718
Surely it happens in other parts of the US, but I'm not surprised that it happens in places like Disney.
Some parents probably think no bad could happen in the magic kingdom, aka the happiest place on earth, and why shouldn't everyone be in on trying to make -their- time the best possible???
They're not thinking about child predators or making other patrons uncomfortable. It's all about them of course.

It's self-centered, entitled. and ignorant.
These parents would ask strangers to watch their children but never to watch their wallets, keys, and phones.

No. 223749

>>223714
>that naaaaame
Lmao, always so damn predictable. Or Hayden Kennedee or Harper Adalynn or Hudson Chase or Skylar Annistynn Braxtone Pane
Sooo fuckin sick of seeing this gay ass shit all over pinterest etc in fucking ~rustic farmhouse cursive~ font

No. 223765

>>221917
That's when you lick your lips while looking at them and say "Yeah…I'll HANDLE watching them alright…" ad hopefully she'll fuck off.

I fucking hate shitty parents in the restaurant I work at. They just stand there and vaguely smile while the kids run around shrieking and putting their sticky hands all over the glass on the display case I clean. Worse is when they have a toddler and sit or stand them up on the counter. No, that's unsanitary, don't put shoes or shitty diapered asses where food goes. A lot of parents don't even care about other kids and parents, especially the ones that smear shit and leave puddles of piss on the baby changing stations. There's plenty of lovely families with well behaved children that come in, but I worry when a family I don't recognize comes in.

No. 223767

>>223718
People in Northern Europe, at least where I used to live while on Erasmus, used to leave buggies with the baby still in them outside of shops and food places. But babies can't run away and nobody really wants anyone's pooping and vomiting infant anyway so it's a little different, I guess.
Any older than that no, the closest I saw was some lady letting her kid play in this kid wrangling area in a café and the kid trying her darndest to catch her attention, literally coming up to her and yelling "mummy look, mummy look" like a million times, very loudly, under my window while we were having a sieste, and the woman kept ignoring her on purpose.

No. 223771

>>223396
>the trend of hating children and babies really grating

It's not a trend, I think it's just that a lot of women dislike children (see what >>223377 said on why) and it only just became acceptable to say so, after a lifetime of being pressured into liking kids and wanting them and being socially pressured and expected to gush and fawn over babies. We're frustrated, and the frustration makes the hate stronger, and it's good to be finally able to let it out.

No. 223775

>>223767
I live in Northern Europe and nobody here would ever imagine doing that. Child protective services would be all over their ass after that stunt.

No. 223842

>>221917
It was one of those human moments where you had the chance to display your human empathy and you just misdeed it

No. 223848

>>223430
>>223462
I feel the same. I remember my own cousin being so annoying because she took a really long time to properly talk, so anything she said would be garbage and I needed her mom all the time to translate.
I don't even see the fun in kids, all they want is play the same thing 300 times when I'd rather be drinking and having fun with the adults around.

I'm currently with my bf family and he's got a baby cousin around and while she's ok and quiet, I get so bored of it. She's at the stage where she doesn't really walk yet but wants to go to places so all she does is wobbles around and everyone is amazed. She's a cute baby/toddler but I fail to see what's interesting.

And the biggest fraud is everyone saying they're hooked on baby's scent, maybe it's like a cilantro type of thing where some people love it and some don't, but to me all they smell like is disgusting baby lotion and spit up/saliva. Babies or toddlers are just so naturally messy, drooly and dirty from crawling on the ground. This is not even meant to be said in a mean way.

No. 223856

I've never had much experience with babies, I was too young when my brother was born and my close cousins are all adopted/step so I'm dreading the day when my friends have one and I have to actually spend time with the wriggly lump of flesh people call babies.

>>223775
>>223767
I've heard of places being perceived as so 'safe' that parents will just leave their children in buggies and pop off, I think it was somewhere in Europe. Most places are child friendly anyway so why would parents ever just leave their child without being horrid people?

No. 223906

Holy shit OP. Who trusts a stranger with two small children? That person was definitely not representative of how most mothers act.

If I were you or in line with you I would have called her out if she made a scene. Keeping your place in line to some shitty Disneyland ride isn't worth endangering your children.

No. 223911

>>221917
The awful thing is that while that behavior is irresponsible anywhere, Disneyland often attracts predators, I got felt up by one when I was a kid there and I wasn't even alone. And of course, the other issue is that if anything goes wrong with the kid OP would be blamed. This is why I hate it when people (relatives especially) will just expect me to take care of their children without notice, especially if we're all out and about. I'm not a parent and I don't know how a specific child works. The truth is they just want to get away from the kid.

>>223856
I thought the leaving the baby outside thing was often just to save space, strollers are big and bulky and it's less of a hassle of drag the whole thing in if you're just stop to buy a cup of coffee or whatever. I never heard of it for long periods of time.

No. 223914

this is why I don't understand why baby leashes are so looked down upon. I mean obviously you shouldn't have a kid on a leash 24/7 but literally anything could happen, a kid could get grabbed or lured away or just sprint into traffic and die. it's better than having strangers watch you kids

No. 223935

I work at a theater, and people who hire the stage sometimes bring their kids, which makes it hell to clean the fucking place inbetween shows/films because they let their fucking 2,5 year old run around like a maniac, spreading popcorn everywhere and walking in mop water so i have to do clean the floors all over again.

One time this 3 year old ran out into the entrance and tried to go up the elevator (top floor is a maze of corridors, rooms with lots of electronics and stone stairs, perfect for a toddler). I could see his chaotic evil grin from across the whole room as i watched the elevator doors close the second before i managed to push the button. Luckily i was quick enough for the elevator to close the doors but not go up, so i carried him back to his parents who hadn't a clue he was gone.

I don't get how some parents can just leave their small kids unattended at a place like that. I mean, there's a million ways for a child to get lost or hurt at a several storeys high theater.

No. 223938

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This is my home anons.

My old neighbors had 3 kids (I think. It was hard to tell sometimes because they had friends) one was 4, others were probably 7 and 9. These kids were out all hours of the day. We lived in a busy street. I can't count how much times cars honked and nearly ran them over.

Idk where the hell the parents were (drinking most likely, they partied alot) but the 4 year old I saw a few times out at 1am shirtless and in his boxers playing on the street. His brothers went around the neighborhood stealing and slashing tires as well as torturing homeless cats. They tried starting the bush beside their house on fire and the fire department was called.

Yes, CPS was called and they seemed to tone down a little bit but the parents were still careless as hell.


Another family down the block let their kids mishandle homeless cats, swinging around the tail, throwing them into fences etc… When getting in trouble about it, the family acted as if their kids were saints and wouldn't harm a fly.

No. 223948

I'm working part time in a bakery and what annoys me the most are parents who somehow expect me to interact with their children. Sometimes they just leave their toddlers with me while they're shopping elsewhere and i'm supposed to stand there and keep them entertained! Working there can be really stressful, so forcing myself to smile is sometimes already super hard, so why am i supposed to have the patience to be funny or comment on how cute your kid is?! Not to mention the kids begging me to give them something for free.
I'm supposed to give out a little candy to each kid and a lot of them are to shy to say thank you so their parents persist to stand there for 5 minute repaating 'say thank you to the lady!' holding up the line ugh…

No. 223960

>>223914
>this is why I don't understand why baby leashes are so looked down upon

The people offended by this are people who don't like to be reminded that children can be as dumb and unpredictable as pet dogs. So they always look to blame the parents for "not doing more" because it hurts ego to be reminded that toddlers and small children (including theirs) aren't always baby geniuses looking to blossom under the right circumstances.

/tinfoil

>>223948
I'm sorry you have to put up with that, anon.

No. 223970

>>223938
On my street we’ve got something similar, but not nearly as extreme as yours… but a family with a bunch of older children and one 4 year old that seems to be neglected. She’s always out playing in their cars alone, she will always always ALWAYS talk to strangers which annoys me because when I’m leaving to go anywhere she’ll be like “where r u going? Hello??? Hello miss?? Where are you going?” And she’s always running on the street regardless if there are cars coming or not. I’m pretty sure this child one day is either going to walk off with a stranger or get hit by a car. We live in a small town they probably don’t think something like that will happen, but shit happens anywhere.

No. 223971

>>223911
I don't mean people doing it for massive lengths of time but not short times either, if the places weren't so quote on quote 'safe' then it would be grounds for child endangerment.

No. 223981

I have a friend who works as a waitress and I've heard so many parent fail horror stories.
Toddlers running around the tables annoying other people, while their parents are just minding their business at their own table and refuse to give a shit about their kids; toddlers running around waiters and bumping into them while they're carrying hot plates that were almost dropped on the little beasts' heads (and if this happened, only then you would've had a chance to see their parents finally give a shit… and yell at waiters, of course); parents changing their babies' diapers right on the table and the smell of shit spreads around, while people at other tables are tryin to eat. And if you try to scold the parents for their shit behavior, they will yell "But it's just a bay-bee!". Even worse if you're a woman, then you will be a "child hating hag". Fuck them all.

No. 223984

>>223981
also a waitress, had to deal with the same shit. i worked at a nice sushi joint and we specifically didn't have a children's menu as a way to say "don't bring your kids!" and without fail, multiple times every summer (they were shoobs, summer residents who left in september) this family of two sets of parents, one set of grandparents, and almost 10 kids would come in. the family was rude, the kids were obnoxious and ran around like it was a playground. one of the kids jumped off the railing of our porch section and i had to say something to the parents–it was a safety hazard of course.


went up to the parents and grandparents, very politely since they were my table, and said "i'm sorry but this isn't the proper place for your children to be running, we've had a few complaints as well because of the noise. i have to ask you to make them sit down at your table."

the dad FLIPS the fuck out at my 'transparent parenting' (whatever the fuck that is) and starts making a scene about how i'm calling HIS family out in front of everyone else. he asks me why i didn't yell at the other table that had kids (they were sitting down and eating like normal fucking children), and he then proceeds to YELL to my manager that this is unacceptable and that he has never had such bad service, never coming back yadda yadda. only gave me a $5 tip on a $200 bill, requested they never have me as a server again.


two weeks later the fucker is back with his zoo of children in tow, specifically sits in my section, and lets his kids run wild. his three daughters (all under 10 i presume) go into our SINGLE PERSON bathroom for about 15 minutes. they get out and another customer walks in, only to inform the other waitresses and i that the kids had pulled all the toilet paper out of the roll, all the paper towels down onto the floor, and pushed the soap dispenser so there was a big puddle of it. i snap but still politely go over to the guy and say, "go to chuck-e-cheese if you want to neglect your kids, don't do it here." he then proceeds to walk out on his bill with his spawns in tow.

jokes on him–none of his food had come to the table yet so this bitch here ate like a queen that night.


(sorry for the blogpost btw, i wasn't expecting it to be this long but i fucking hate when kids come into restaurants.)

No. 223987

>>221943
I'm from more eastern part of the world and the whole scenario sounds very American to me. From young woman unwilling to help a lady for few minutes, their constant state of not being comfortable, to mother making a scene at a crowded place.

But then again, we don't have many pedophilia cases and majority of missing kids are in fact babies stolen from the hospitals by foreigners to be sold in the West as children of barren couples.

No. 223988

>>223981
I work at a restaurant and can confirm they're magnets for this kind of conduct. Some parents literally let their kids treat the place like a playground. Myself and many coworkers have dropped shit and tripped due to people letting their kids run around while it's busy. Some people actually see us as babysitters and expect us to be watching their kids. The place I work has a back section that's closed off when it's not super busy, it has a little mini kitchen for when we do breakfast. I once went back there to find two little kids alone in there playing with the stove. Their parents weren't even on the same floor and acted like we were inconveniencing them when we told them about the situation. We had to start locking the back after that.

>>223984
Jfc that guy was a cunt. Go you for not putting up with that fuckery.

No. 223989

>>223988
i quit the job but my sister still works there and said he showed up a couple of times before the season ended. we've had other bad ones but he was definitely the worst.

i don't understand how parents don't see the dangers of kids running around an eatery? we had udon soups that were already boiling hot and hard to carry–what if it spilled on one of the kids? they'd throw a fit then but until it happens they don't give a shit.


i know everyone says this, but jesus christ. when i have kids, they're going to know manners and respect, especially when it comes to servers and hospitality workers. it's common fucking decency.

No. 223992

>>223987
>From young woman unwilling to help a lady for few minutes, their constant state of not being comfortable

Are you serious? Like other anons have said, there's a laundry list of things that can go wrong when you watch a random stranger's children. Kids are a huge fucking responsibility, even for "just a few minutes". What if the kids run off or heavily misbehave? Anon would be blamed for anything bad that happened, even if it was out of her control. And what is so wrong with anon just wanting to enjoy her vacation she probably spent a fuckton of money on without watching some rando's kids so she doesn't have to lose her place in a relatively short line?

So yeah, get of your high horse.

No. 223994

>>223992
That's why you're the adult in the situation, if the kids tries to escape, you hold the kid by their hand. The parent trusted you enough to ask you to look out for them. I personally don't see a big problem in it. I've been asked to take care of younger kids when I was a kid and I've been asked to take care of children when I was adult, and so do lots of people.
To me, the whole mentality of "but what about me me me?" sounds very selfish and if OP's vacation would have been ruined by a couple of minutes of looking out for kids, then she shouldn't be on a vacation in the first place.

No. 223995

>childfree restaurants
Hnghh. Anons, you're doing good work.

Although I wish patrons would stand up for you if these parents get belligerent when they're told they're bothering the restaurant. If I asked a waiter to tell a family to fuck off I'd back the waiter up if they started to get yelled at.
Usually these parents attack the service workers because they're singular and think they can strongarm their way out of the situation if they're loud enough. If more people got behind the worker, the person would realize they're outnumbered and step down.

Sadly, parental entitlement and "the customer is always right" have been bastardized and left unchecked for far too long. These behaviors are commonplace now.

No. 224003

>>223994
It's weird for strangers to ask you to watch their kids for them, weird and bad parenting, I wouldn't want to visit somewhere where that was considered fine.

There's nothing selfish about not wanting to be blamed if something happens to the kids, what's selfish is that lady prioritising her place in line at a vacation park over her own kids, you go to places like that to spend time with your children, not to hand them off to a stranger you think looks "safe"
From what I've heard most younger people asked to look after kids their whole life end up resenting children. OP could have gotten in a lot of trouble in a few different ways if she took over those kids, she was in none if she refused. The parents hardly trusted her in a way of built up trust, she was trusting she wasn't a pedo, if cases like the one talked about early in this thread isn't enough for you then, that's a shame.

Anyway, it seems like a bit more of (western) society is accepting of 'childfree' people but not enough, it's probably gonna take a while.

No. 224004

>>223994
You have to remember that in America, getting litigated to fuck if an accident happens is a very real concern.

No. 224005

>>224004
It seems to be that it's mostly the American parents who will solely blame you if something happens to their kid because of their neglect (Not trying to generalise but most stories I've read about horrid parents come from America so maybe that's it)

No. 224006

>>223994
if you're not a robot i suggest you head there. and if you're a mom you're a shit one. you should never expect people to take care of your problems, and your kids are your problems. end of story.

No. 224007

>>224005
It's not just parents being the issue. If an accident results in medical expenses or similar, the insurance company will usually try to find someone involved to sue so they can recoup losses. The parents could be the most understanding people in the world and it wouldn't help you.

American system is fucked.

No. 224010

>>223994
>That's why you're the adult in the situation, if the kids tries to escape, you hold the kid by their hand.
Except that some people don't want to be in a position where they have to. Being an adult doesn't automatically mean you're responsible enough to care for a child or want to, and there's nothing wrong with that as long as you're aware of it and avoiding situations where you would be… just like OP did. Also, in the USA if you tried to restrain a child that wasn't yours you could get a felony. Not to mention, if something did go wrong, OP could get sued. Plus, again, why should people feel obligated to do this? Some people AREN'T COMFORTABLE AROUND CHILDREN and even ones who are often are not comfortable being in charge of children they don't know. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this, why do you feel the need to shame people for it?


>The parent trusted you enough to ask you to look out for them.

Which is absolutely crazy and terrible parenting. Why on earth would you trust someone you don't know to watch your children??? That goes against all common sense. Especially in a place like the US.

>To me, the whole mentality of "but what about me me me?" sounds very selfish and if OP's vacation would have been ruined by a couple of minutes of looking out for kids, then she shouldn't be on a vacation in the first place

No one said anything about it ruining her vacation, although it certainly has the potential to if something goes wrong. How is it selfish to want to avoid the risk or simply avoid a situation she's not comfortable with? How is it more selfish of her to have her boundaries and exercise them than it is for the mom to want to force HER responsibility on a stranger, possibly at the risk of her children's safety, to save herself a few minutes in line? The mom was selfish and entitled as fuck.

>I've been asked to take care of younger kids when I was a kid and I've been asked to take care of children when I was adult, and so do lots of people.

That's fine that you wouldn't have a problem with it, but you don't have to be so ridiculously self-righteous about it. Some people aren't and I'm sorry, but leaving your children with strangers is never a good idea, regardless of their age. Ffs there's stories of children brutally murdering younger kids, let alone adults.

No. 224016

>>223914
>>223960
I both hate children and think baby leashes are stupid. Parents can't just keep a hand on their kids shoulder or hold their hand? I would feel so embarrassed if my parents did that to me, even as a dumb toddler. All parents I've met can barely take care of their smelly dogs so dehumanizing the kid even more makes me wonder if they treat their kids the same as their dogs in other aspects of life, or if they're just that lazy and dumb.

No. 224017

Ugh, I remember my family pawning off their 5-6 yo kids on me every time we were in vacation.
Sure, let me, a barely responsible 12 yo, watch 3 kids around the beach. What could go wrong?

No. 224018

>>224016
I used to dislike them but eh I don't see much wrong with them now, it's much easier to do stuff when the kid is on a leash, unless the kid is way older than she should be on said leash, then I don't think negative emotional stuff would affect them about it.

Better than the parents who let their monsters run around, some children are genuinely a threat to themselves if not on a leash, since hand holding and all that can either be impeded by size difference or limit the parents to what they're doing. From what I've seen most parents don't use them.

No. 224019

>>224016
I had a baby leash as a toddler and it didn't do me any harm. It's helpful for active kids because it gives them more space to explore unfamiliar environments independently and gain confidence without having a parent hovering over them. Definitely shouldn't be used beyond the toddler stage though.

No. 224020

>>224016
i'm one of the first people to call others out on shitty, neglectful parenting (i'm the waitress anon from above!!) but the baby leashes, especially the ones on backpacks, can be really helpful. my mom had me and both my brothers and we weren't very far in age so we couldn't be by ourselves. it was easier for her to keep track of us that way–much better than just letting us wander off on our own, right?


now i don't agree with parents who just leash their kids and then ignore them, that's complete bullshit right there.

No. 224021

>>224020
i just need to add that me and my brothers were all under 6, so it isn't like my mother had pre-teens on leashes or anything.

No. 224024

>>224016
>Parents can't just keep a hand on their kids shoulder or hold their hand?
You're really underestimating how easy it is for your kids to run off and get themselves hurt, even if you're the most attentive parent in the world.

No. 224029

Oh my God. This reminds me of when I used to work retail, and parents (usually just moms) would come through the checkout with toddlers who weren’t even causing a scene, you know, stuff like:

>kid puts item on counter, candy bar or toy they’re not supposed to have

>kid talks a little too loudly/excitedly
>grabs something from display stand to hold in front of cart

You know, not a huge deal, compared to some other shit you’ve seen people do if you’ve worked retail. Then this:

>”NO! STOP THAT! If you don’t quit doing that, this LADY HERE will YELL at you!”


Please, fucking stop. I get that you’re busy, your toddler is acting up, you’re frazzled, but I am not going to discipline your child because you straight up told an entire line of people I would.

I would just smile and tell the poor, usually scared looking-kid (if they really weren’t misbehaving): “it’s okay! Please put (item) here, I’m not gonna yell at you!” Fuck off with that shit, lady.

No. 224030

Speaking of Disneyland- I don't understand people who take their babies and toddlers there. They're too young to remember it at all and when it's crowded, all the people with strollers are a massive pain in the ass. And don't even get me started on their shrieking.

My husband didn't even know he had ever been there before we went together until his parents mentioned it because they took him when he was like 3 or 4 and he has absolutely no recollection of it. That doesn't stop them from talking about it like it was the highlight of his childhood and they're such generous parents for taking him there, though. I was 6 when I went the first time, so I did retain a decent amount of it. I think people shouldn't start bringing their kids there until they're 5.

No. 224032

>>224030
cause they want to go there and they think that having their little brats there makes it less immature. americans are just so worried of other's opinions.

No. 224033

>>224029
actually you can fuck off. that's not even the same thing as most of this shit. she wasn't expecting anything from you, just using you as a threat, like saying the police will come and arrest the kid. get out.

No. 224035

>>223995
> I wish patrons would stand up for you if these parents get belligerent when they're told they're bothering the restaurant.
Never seen a scene like that happen, but I'll definitely keep it in mind and back the staff up if I ever do after reading these posts.

No. 224045

>>224024
You're right that I don't have experience in that but it seems so demeaning and impersonal.

>>224019
>>224020
Are you guys really young or have leashes been around for longer than I know?

The backpacks at least are a little more "natural." Maybe if the kid becomes notorious for bolting off, buying one would make sense, but it's so weird to get right off the bat.

No. 224046

>>224045
22, but i know that they became really popular in the early to mid 2000's. if i ever had more than one toddler, i'd probably do the backpacks once they get big enough to wander–and i mean actually wander, not wobble. doesn't mean it's okay to use everywhere though! just places like disney world or busy areas where there's a lot of people. it's just safer than assuming you can always hold their hands, y'know??

No. 224047

ITT: My people.

But, seriously: I can say with absolute certainty that I do not want a child. Ever. I'm still young enough that people insist I don't know what I want–but haven't you noticed that nobody ever says this to <20 year old women that proclaim they WANT kids? Hm.

I don't hate kids, but I do find most of them grating. Hell, I'm a high school teacher, and many of my students still frustrate me from time to time. They're brilliant students, but they're still teenagers and teenagers can be a pain in the ass.

This era of borderline child worship is just disturbing to me. While I think it's fantastic that children have more rights than ever before, I hate the entitled martyr parents that insist on everyone else bowing down to them or catering to their every whim because they have crotchfruit. They refuse to alter their lifestyle after having children and expect everyone else to deal with it (like bringing strollers to breweries or small children to wine tastings–WTF?) because baaaayyyybies.

No. 224048

>>224033

Woooow somebody here is a traditionalist, what a great disclipinary method, anon. Scaring your children for no fucking reason because you are too lazy to be a parent. Fuck you.

No. 224049

>>224047
i agree that there are a lot of shitty parents out there, and i honestly love the fact that some of my friends don't really want kids (mainly because i know they aren't thrilled about the idea). it's still nice to see that there are people who don't HATE kids necessarily. i was the anon that said my nephews and nieces were a pain and even though i want my own kids, i know that they won't act like that because i'll actually use effort to raise them. it's a shame that other people don't see parenting as an actual job like it should be rather than a hobby.

No. 224051

>>224047
Child worship is so shitty because, as a result, these kids are going to grow up bratty and entitled and when they get to the age where they can't get away with it anymore, more problems emerge.
It's also the reason people are so against childfree restaurants and all that, claiming it's 'age discrimination' and put it on the same level as the concept of 'elderly free restaurants', no, children are loud and obnoxious and people shouldn't have to be subjected to them if they don't want to.

No. 224057

>>224048
i wasn't saying it was a good thing, just that anon acts like it's anything like other shit ITT.

No. 224068

>>224045
>>224019 here. Am 31, but I grew up in Norway so maybe it's different in the US where it seems like there's less of an outdoorsy culture.

My mom's said before that baby leashes weren't exactly uncommon back in the '80s either.

No. 224075

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Oh my god I needed this thread forever

Be me
>my dad was a low key pedo
>my mom had me in her teens (16)
>spend the next +12 years living in between them
>mom fucks away to new country
>get stuck with him for 2 years of he spying me whilst I shower

I became a neet got social anxiety because he used to “test” me in public by being a complete narc

Move forward till when I moved with my mom

>stepdad treats me like I’m a pet

>mom is disgusted with weight gain from living with my dad
>they have couple issues
> mom gives me the “first is god then my husband then my family” speech
>mom cheats on stepdad with rando
>leaves me (16) alone with stepdad and asks me to hide her laptop
>stepdad watches sexual movie and forces me to sit next to him
>mother decides that she has “too much” with my behaviour and not good enough grades at school
>takes the mirror bike and tries to kill herself
> stepdad texted me whilst in school “congratulations you killed your mom”


I could continue but I’m not trying to sperg and this must be annoying to read because esl ;.;

No. 224077

>>223326
THIS

I get forced to hold my step brother often

No. 224079

>>224075
your family is horrendous and you deserve better, anon <3

No. 224082

>>224079

Thanks anon!

Things worked up afterwards thankfully.

They now have 2 kids and I know that they will be treated a lot better than me because
1)they are boys
2) they are my stepdads(?)

Idk I’ll be here for them if they ever need money for university we are 18 years apart so I hope my mom learnt something by me leaving and never speaking to her again

No. 224087

>>223430
Im envious that you're able to find joy in spending time with your niece. My niece is 8 now and i still don't know what to do around her. I only see her once a year so that has a lot to do with it but i just don't know what to talk about or do with her, i feel like such a "boring adult".

No. 224091

I was an only child until my brother was born when I was nearly 14. Both parents worked. I was enlisted to care for him after school until 7 or 8 in the evening and on most Saturdays until I graduated high school. I bristled when relatives and friends of my parents referring to me as the "built-in babysitter," but I was not overly resentful.

While the situation impacted my studies and my social life, far more deleterious was the mental pressure of having to care for an infant/toddler when I was ill-equiped to do so and, in turn, how that pressure led me to borderline abuse him by yelling at him or shutting him away in his room when he wouldn't stop crying and not cleaning him up as much as I should have when he constantly spit-up for months.

I have never had any desire to children before or after. Despite my negative experience, I can say with certainty that it did not influence me to not want children. I already had no attraction to all things baby, and my experience simply confirmed it.

No. 224127

>>224091
Sociopath much?

No. 224133

>>224127
Not the person you're replaying to but why? Her parents didn't care for her brother and she was ill-equipped to care for a baby. Doesn't make her a sociopath.

My sister is 8 years younger and I had to pick her up from school and kindergarten and hated it.

No. 224135

>>224127
Sociopath because her parent neglected her and her brother? Children shouldn't take care of children, doing a bad job at being a caretaker at 14 doesn't make one a sociopath, it makes one a normal child.

No. 224166

>>224091
I was in a similar position like you anon, just not as severe: me and my little sister are 9 years apart and while i liked taking care of her in the beginning, it often became simply too much. I still remember my 14th birthday party there all my friends complained why she constantly needs to be with us, but my parents simply found that 'cute'. She also called me mother for some time when she was younger.
On the one hand i was glad that they thought of me as responsible enough that they had me babysit her alone at night but on the other had i often became so frustrated that i honestly thought of just pushing her stroller onto the street…
For years i've already decided that i never want to have children and i wonder if this could be one of the reasons why

No. 224168

Sage for samefag, but what makes it even sadder is, that now that she's reached puberty she doesn't appreciate me and everything i've done/still do for her at all…

No. 224175

>>224127
It's not her fault she acted that way towards her brother. Her childhood was robbed from her because she was the "built in babysitter." You'd be resentful too, what her parents did was bullshit.

No. 224180

>>224166

>She also called me mother for some time when she was younger.


This type of situation is bad for both children in many ways.

My brother never thought of me as his mother, but strangers did when I was alone in public with him.

I have never discussed what happened and my feelings about it with my parents or with my brother. I didn't complain at the time, either. My parents were fairly strict disciplinarians.

I was aware that different times throughout history and in different cultures today, having older siblings care for younger siblings while both parents work is the norm. But to me it was a shock since we had no siblings between us.

I never enjoyed babysitting other people's kids, either. But I did it because my mom set up those jobs for me and it was money.

As an adult I don't have gushy maternal feelings towards babies and toddlers. I do enjoy interacting with older kids, especially teaching them everything from life skills to academics. My parents are/were teachers by profession.

No. 224191

>>224075
Holy shit, I'm so sorry your family sucks so much, anon.

>>224051
I can't "this" enough. My entire family worshipped the ground I walked on and while it wasn't to the extent of many parents, it was enough to fuel my already inflated ego to a really detrimental degree. It wasn't until the past couple years I realized what a train wreck I actually am and it has been the source of a lot of emotional issues. I also know tons of people who have gone down that path, but sadly never had their realization that they're not the shit.

No. 224193

>>224082
Those boys are lucky that you're even considering helping them, you seem really generous. Wish you the best!

No. 224198

>>224047
>haven't you noticed that nobody ever says this to <20 year old women that proclaim they WANT kids? Hm.
I'm 25 and myself and my 27 year old best friend still get told this. I've been told by women in their 30's that they do too. Some people absolutely refuse to believe that a person can just simply not want children. It's mindboggling.

Also, I believe there's way more people that regret having kids than society is aware of. Like with everything, people get very real when they know you won't judge them. I've been told by a few people that they straight up regret having kids, but they put on a show that they're so happy because obviously they don't want the child to ever know they see having them as a mistake.

No. 224200

The fact that asking strangers to watch your children is a somewhat common thing is deeply disturbing to me. "Don't trust strangers" is probably the most repeated thing children are taught (at least in America) yet here their parents are doing the polar opposite of that. Think of the message that sends to kids.

>stranger offers them a ride

>"well mommy left me with that lady that one time, so it's okay"

No. 224233

I still want kids despite how my parents were, but has anyone else dealt with having to be their parents "parent"? Sorry if this isn't the right place to rant about this but it seems on topic enough.

Dad was kicked out when I was 16. Said he was "too controlling" because he expected her to put up with her half of the responsibilities.

>cleaning is supposed to be half/half between us now

>she wont clean unless you tell her to, multiple times, and it always ends in a fight
>even over something as simple as "you dropped this, please pick it up"
>even then it might take her several days to do it
>she's walked past cat shit on the floor before and refused to pick it up for over a day
>basically if i want the house to be clean (or anything else done housecare wise), i need to do it myself

>shes supposed to be a caregiver for my grandmother with dementia

>ignores her completely
>nan lives in another apartment but constantly invites herself into ours, im always the one who has to get her back into her apartment
>nan leaves front doors open constantly, i'm having to wake up all throughout the night to close the doors so we don't get robbed/animals won't get lost
>nan has nearly set the house on fire multiple times, i've had to deal with this everytime myself
>mom has literally watched my nan pull a (butter, lol) knife on me multiple times (she gets confused) and done nothing to help me
>ignores anything my nan asks her, nan is going to a nursing home this week and mom has ignored her completely, i had to spend over 5 hours talking to my nan about the nursing home yesterday and getting her comfortable with the idea of going

>mom gets worse when she's found a male provider (exactly that, because thats the only guys she'll date)

>stops cleaning, cooking, ect all together
>brings home guys who have pasts of making sexual comments about me, will date anyone who gives her an ounce of attention and has money
>tells the guys that i'm mean to her and 'wants her to be a robot' (because i tell her to clean her house) and tries to taunt me into being rude to her when they're in the house as 'proof'
>blames me whenever the guys leave her

>anytime you ask her to do anything all she says is that she wants to relax and wants to sit down, this is literally all she does all day

>has a long time 'addiction' to electronics but specifically the telephone/texting. used to neglect me as a child (wouldn't make me lunch, supper, ect) in favor of talking to friends on the phone.
>truly believes that because she works under 40 hours a week she shouldn't have to take care of herself or or house, says 'no one else who works has to'
>keeps claiming she's going to get a better job but puts minimum effort into doing so

>im unable to work (but working on getting better and will soon be able to earn my own money again! one of the only highlights to this story lol) and only get a few hundred to live off of

>she keeps begging for this money because she wants spending money despite the fact she can hardly even pay her own bills
>has even encouraged me to lie to get more money so that i can give it to her
>went with a flea infestation for 5 months because she wasn't getting bit, despite the fact i get about 5-7 bites a day
>only reason its getting treated is because i have to pay for an exterminator with the money i saved up to get glasses
>and what a surprise, shes also refusing to do any part in preparing the house, so i have to do all of it

>has taken her to therapists before over this, even family therapy when i was younger

>whenever you bring up what the workers told her, she says i'm lying and they said something else
>even claims they talked to her after (they didnt) and told her i was being a horrible child and that she needs to 'put me straight'

i honestly feel like i've been raising a teenager since i was 16. I'm 21 now and she hasn't changed a bit, just gotten worse. i'm hoping to move out within the next year or two (across country, can't get far enough). i can't wait to live on my own.

also
>has the galls to say i don't have the skills to take care of a house on my own

No. 224237

>>224233
my mom was basically permanently a college student on her summer vacation. i was more her mom than anything. i moved out at 18 and she turned into one of those naggy parents and i finally cut her off for criticizing me for leaving an abusive relationship.

>no job, ever since high school at arby's

>stayed on the computer using AOL all night
>'woke me up' for school when she was awake, usually wanting breakfast
>slept till 3 or later
>didn't know how to cook, stuff like tuna casserole with canned soup was a triumph for her
>learned to cook from my grandmother, my mom wanted me to cook after that
>never cleaned or kept anything clean but bitched about it being dirty
>constantly high or drunk
>her and stepdad constantly on bad terms, convinced she was only still with him for a meal ticket
>constantly tried to egg me on about going to parties, drinking, smoking, going to clubs
>invited her 'girlfriend' to live at our house, she was 20 and stole some of my clothes
>constantly made me apologize for her, in shops, at school functions (mandatory), even cussed out my teachers before in high school
>wore embarrassing slutty clothes
>bought clothes 'for me' for her to 'borrow' that i never got back
>did shit like wake me up at 2am to make cookies with her
>poor school work because of shit like that

and my stepdad in all this was just in his own little world. i moved to a totally different area of the country and haven't seen her in over 10 years. it's pretty good tbh.

No. 231712

>>223775
I live in Norway and it´s completely normal to do that. If you have an infant and it´s in a carrier, parents will often times leave it outside places such as cafés while they´re inside. But they will sit so that they can see the carrier and they only do it because baby-snatching is not a thing and viewed as safe. Parents will also let their infants nap outside during the winter because of the fresh air lol. It sounds vile, but it´s very common and i´ve never in my life heard of a single case where a baby has been hurt or kidnapped due to these slightly weird "traditions".

No. 391524

Necroing this thread because this happened yesterday.

>husband and I militantly childfree entire five years of our relationship

>mother in law in absolute denial about this fact and dismisses it as ~a phase~
>her friend and daughter there with daughter's new baby
>they keep saying how I just need to spend time with baby and I'll change my mind about kids
>ask me to watch her while they go out to dinner
>decline because I have plans with my friends that night
>they keep pushing and I keep saying no I have plans
>go to take a shower and get ready for said night out with friends
>come back and everyone is gone except baby
>blow up MILs phone with no answer
>friends already on their way
>tell them the situation and they tell me it's fine if I just being her with me
>can't because no fucking car seat, so friends just come over and we order pizza and chill with this baby for four hours
>she's an easy baby so it's not as annoying as it could have been, but still not some magical cure for our childfree stance
>MIL, friend, and babys mom come home and baby momma is LIVID I had strangers over while I was watching the baby
>all three of them gang up and tell me how unacceptable it was that I didn't make sure baby momma was okay with my friends being around the kid
>tell them it was far more unacceptable that they completely ignored my wishes not to be stuck watching the baby when I told them I had plans and didn't want to
>told them they're lucky I watched the kid at all and didn't just leave and call CPS
>they now think I'm satan and MIL is all "why did you have to turn this into a problem?"

Why do so many parents insist on being trash?

No. 391526

>>391524
Your MIL sounds terrible. It's good that you have a supportive childfree husband but I hate how so many people try to force women into becoming baby machines.

No. 391527

>>391524
Oh yeah, I should also specify that our plans to go out were just dinner. We weren't considering taking the baby out to like a bar or anything ridiculous like that.

No. 391529

>>391524
>friends already on their way
>tell them the situation and they tell me it's fine if I just being her with me
>MIL, friend, and babys mom come home and baby momma is LIVID I had strangers over while I was watching the baby
So why were they ok with you taking the baby somewhere else to be around these "strangers"?

Did you talk to your husband about this? If my MIL did this, my husband would lose his shit on her. It's unacceptable. He needs to set boundaries.

No. 391530

>>391526
Yeah, it's pretty obnoxious. Especially coming from parents and in laws because they act like you owe them grandchildren.

No. 391534

>>391529
Sorry I worded it in a way that was confusing. My friends were the ones who told me it was fine if I brought the baby to dinner. I couldn't get in touch with MIL or baby momma at all despite calling them literally dozens of times. Pretty sure they were ignoring my calls because they knew I was pissed they saddled me with the kid against my will.

And yeah, he bitched her and baby momma out hard for the whole thing. Told them to never even ask that I watch the kid again unless there's an emergency.

No. 391536

>>391534
Ah ok yeah, that makes a lot more sense. Good on him for standing up and saying that. How absolutely insane of them to just leave the baby there, lol. Absolutely delusional

No. 391554

>>391524
Your MIL is awful, but baby momma is a pretty shitty parent too… who just drops their baby to someone who's unwilling to do so (knowing they're busy with other plans, too) and leaves, ignoring any call and message? Anything could've happened. It's irresponsible as fuck, using your own child like that just to prove a point.

No. 391568

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White woman walking around the plane -bare fucking foot- following around after her toddler (making no attempt to stop her, mind you) who was hollering like a wilderbeast, as though this is acceptable behaviour

Didn't go on for long. I informed a flight attendant who then put Mommy in her place, no more problems after that.

Dirty fuckin hippy. Struck me as one of those white moms who are seduced by the prospect of having a mixed-race child as an accessory

No. 391582

>>391554
But family aren't supposed to have any boundaries with each other, anon.

No. 391585

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I worked in a rich person hotel daycare creche so I have many-a story to tell.

story 1

>man holding up the narrow staircase by allowing his toddler to walk down painfully slowly instead of just carrying it down. i cant overtake him

>i say 'excuse me' in the quietest, politest voice i can muster
>'JUST WAIT' he snaps. so I wait

anyway he tells my manager that i pushed him while he was holding a baby and a spa assistant backs him up. i implored my manager to check CCTV, she was having none of it

story 2

i actually got fired for this one, but i wear it as a badge of honour

>kid comes in covered head to fucking toe in bruises

>only 5/6 years old
>comes out with all kinds of disturbing shit, talking about abandoned children, animal feces etc
>tells me Mummy makes her do age-inappropriate chores for hours in exchange for 15 minutes of TV time
>couldn't explain her bruises, doesn't know how she got them

>my manager is unstable and generally mistreats staff, completely dismisses my concerns

>so i call social services
>mum is a rich, bourgtard, guardian writer
>sends a spergy novella email about the audacity of a lowly proletarian daring to question her parenting
>says girl fell off bike, despite girl not telling me this and injuries inconsistent (should be cuts/grazes)
>managers try to intimidate me, tell me i may never work in childcare again (lmfao)
>they tell me Mum wrote a guardian article about how she spent £50,000 on IVF
>so what you're telling me is, this rich retard was too arrogant to adopt and thinks her genes are superior enough to splurge a lifechanging amount of money on eugenics. (G U I L L O T I N E)
>they fire me
>jokes on her because i'd been wanting to leave anyway, but they'd trapped me by giving a vendetta reference when i tried to leave earlier

rich people are wild. money robs people of their soul, i swear. i actually have more stories if ya wanna hear

No. 391586

>>391585
The last story sounds very sad, but I would like to hear more, anon.

No. 391587

>>391586
>>391585

story 3

this was literally all my own fault for being a polemicist but at this point i was okay with being fired so dont get mad

>kids come in saying 'we went to celebrate 70th year of Israel!'

>i say 'u mean Palestine'
>Americunt grandma comes back to try and convince me that Israel is a democracy without addressing the genocide
>goes on for ages and ages about Israel being this and that, my manager is standing right there so i'm unable to defend myself
>luckily, manager doesnt know wtf israel even is or understand the gravity of what i said. so i dont get in trouble
>hun are u lost, this is the UK we all fucking hate Israel
>eyeroll

so that was one i brought on myself and i admit that but still pretty funny that someone tried to defend Israel to me lmao

No. 391589

>>391587
>We all fucking hate Israel
Speak for yourself anon. Are you a muslim or Corbyn supporter by any chance?

No. 391611

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So, this is my "parent and child from hell" story.
>start babysitting at a wealthy family's house
>family is 50 y.o. single mother and her 5 y.o. daughter
>the mother introduces me to her daughter with endless praises on how "clever" her little girl is, how mature is for her age, how much of a future leader she is
>daughter is a spoiled brat who gets no discipline whatsoever from her mother, doesn't listen EVER, needs a hour of persuasion to do literally anything, eating included
>mother makes excuses after excuses, saying that "Oh, she's just very cheeky and full of energy like it's normal for her age, maybe it's you who only had very quiet children before"
>her best quote is "Yes she doesn't listen, but it's because she's very smart"
>daughter goes to a school for special kids - although mother insists that "Oh, but my daughter goes to a class of normal kids, the only one in the institute"
>daughter doesn't look like her mother at all and has quite a strange face, like the ones you get when you google "fetal alcohol syndrome" - although mother often says she doesn't drink alcohol ever
>mother had daughter at the age of 45 y.o., resulting in some health issues for the girl, which is part of the reason why the daughter is coddled all the time, even when she fucks up
>mother is a psycho who yells at me when her daughter misbehaves, she even once threatens to kill me
>daughter has an extremely weird behavior for her age… the thing is, she just seems plain retarded. I've been around kids all my life and I swear I've never seen a child her age - or any age, really - do the stuff she did
>example: she always tried to kill herself. When she played colouring she would start sucking on the tip of the coloured felt tip pens she was using. When I walked her to school, she would try to break free from my hand to run towards the road with cars running at full speed. When we were near a park with a small river, she would try to jump off the bridge. She also constantly tried to jump off the windows at home, so I was always next to her ready to grab her. More than once her mother got mad at me because dinner wasn't ready yet by the time she got home, because I had to give all my attention to her dumbass suicidal daughter who purposefully put tiny things in her mouth (like plastic dices) to spite me and run away. One time, when she was under her mother's supervision, she was alone in her room and sitting on the windowsill with her feet dangling out (she opened the window) and it was only out of luck that I was going to the toilet in that moment and passed in front of her room to stop her from certain death
>discipline isn't fun, so daughter doesn't like me and starts to lie to her mother, saying that I hurt her
>mother goes apeshit and threatens to beat me up, then proceeds to throw any insult at me, saying that I "can't be a mother" and I'm "childish", and gets even more heated when I try to explain how her daughter needs professional help and how she can't accuse me without proof - to which she yells "ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY THAT MY GIRL IS LYING??"
>get the hell out of there and promptly write to the agency that sent me there to inform them of what happened
There are some really fucked up people out there. The mother was a full blown abuser to me, and she was mentally unstable as fuck. When she got mad she had the three-whites-showing-above sanpaku eyes, really scary. As for the girl, I'll be surprised if she gets to live past the age of 8, and I mean this matter-of-factly. I feel bad for their future babysitters, too. If the girl manages to actually kill herself on the new babysitter's watch, the babysitter is a dead woman.

No. 391612

>>391611
Forgot to add, the thing that set mother off to call me "childish" was that being busy with packing, I forgot to fold her fucking panties.
Imagine being 50 and getting mad at a 20 year old girl for not taking care of your panties. The projecting!

No. 391614

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No. 391615

>>391587
>this is the UK we all fucking hate Israel

REMOVE KEBAB

No. 391616

>>391611
That's fucking bananas. Fellow childcarer here and I can really picture this happening.

How did the agency respond?

No. 391617

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>>391615
Pfff I'm as white as a toilet. Stop derailing

No. 391619

>>391616
They acted concerned, but I don't know if they really were. At the end of the day, it's my word against mother's, and I'm sure she shittalked me thoroughly, possibly even before I could. I just hope they put two and two together and realize that I've been the second babysitter in a row to leave early on very bad terms - there was the first babysitter before me, and mother shittalked her to me saying she did drugs in front of the little girl and beat up the mother, but seeing how aggressive and crazy the mom is, I don't believe her not even one bit. Also, a 5'1 girl beating up a gargantuan 6' fat woman? Lmao sure

No. 391621

>>391617
You sure are a toilet

No. 391705

>>391611
>fetal alcohol syndrome
>45 year old mother at birth

I’d be suicidal too if it was guaranteed I’d be a vegetable thanks to my mums selfish choices

No. 429052

It absolutely enrages me how pedophilia and stat rape are totally legal in most states as long as you have parental permission. I've been learbibg more about the largely unknown epidemic of American child brides and it is sickening. I was reading about girls as young as 12 marrying middle aged men. The parents who allow this should be thrown in jail and charged as accessories to child rape. Keeping kids safe trumps whatever ridiculpus "freedom of religion" argument people use to defend this revolting shit.

No. 429054

>>391611
She sounds fucked up and is setting up her kid for failure.

No. 429179

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This happened a few months ago, don't know exactly when but it was this year.
>be with my dad chilling at the mall for a change
>1pm
>decide to stop at fast food place to chill and eat some fries
>all is well while we wait but then in enters a couple and a baby
>they sit about 4-5 meters away from us
>one child somewhere else starts crying, but it's only every once in a while so i don't let it get to me
>food arrives
>time to grub!!
>at this point the restaurant is full and lively
>a few minutes later the baby starts crying
>mfw two children crying
>thankfully the first once has either stopped or left the restaurant
>the baby's crying is loud so i turn to check
>they're giving the baby medicine
>areyoufuckingkiddingme.jpg
>there's a medium sized drugstore bag on their table and they're sitting there in a PACKED restaurant giving their baby medicine
>if it was a single parent i could understand, but it was a fucking COUPLE
>the wife was holding the baby and the husband was spoonfeeding the baby medicine
>the baby is still crying very loudly by the way
>this continues for 15 minutes
>i swear i'm going to punch these two retards
>people are leaving the restaurant and looking at them as they go
>manager comes out and is glaring at them but not doing anything
>the couple has obviously noticed the glares but are very quiet
>i'm desperately holding back the urge to ask them why the fuck they brought a sick baby to the mall at peak hours
>me and my dad decide to pack up and fucking leave
>they stayed for a little while more then left
Seriously. Why the fuck are you bringing your screeching banshee to the mall where people are just trying to relax? Loud noises scare children. Also why are you not at home taking care of your sick baby?? Fuck you. I hope all three of them get hit by a bus before bringing a screaming brat to the mall again. Parents of small children so often just expect complete strangers to deal with their crotch demons.

No. 429416

>>223987
Late but there’s probably a lot more pedophiliac cases in your country than you think. It just that they don’t get reported. Lack of cases doesn’t automatically means that it doesn’t happen. Saudi Arabia has a low rape rate, particularly compared to the U.S, but I’ll eat my hat if rape is actually super uncommon there. It’s more like because of their misogynistic culture and laws, women are often scared to report it.

No. 430545

>>429416
This so hard. Japan has a ridiculously low official rape rate, despite the fact sexual assault is rampant there, because there's still a big stigma around being raped.

And even if pedophilia is "rare" in your country doesn't mean it can't still happen jfc.

No. 433328

>>391585
>guardian writer

I know this is old as hell, but I'm very curious as to who this is.

No. 440211

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Holy. Fucking. Shit.

No. 440215

>>440211
Pure jealousy at the attractive woman enjoying her holiday with no obligations while she runs her ass ragged over a kid. I honestly love posts like this because it assures me not having kids is the right choice

No. 440225

>>440211
This is hilarious. This woman hates her life so much.

No. 440232

>>440215
Her post is trashy but so is yours. You're trashy too

No. 440246

>>440211
Toddlers can't even make meaningful enough memories to really understand disneyland… lol.
It's not for toddlers, at least as much as it isn't for "sluts".

No. 440257

>>440232
Is your hubby not home yet? Quick, go and make dinner before he catches you browsing this slutty site!

>>440246
It's the same with people who fly around the world with babies. You're only wasting money and putting a lot of stress on your kid. Parents at disney world or other amusement parks spend like 50 bucks on a harry potter magic stick - for their 2 year old…
They just need to admit to themselves that this is something that they'd like to do, no need to act all high and mighty "I did it for the children!".
Same with pagent moms, parents who force certain sports or instrument on their kids, and so on.

No. 440260

>>440257
There's this weird complex a lot of parents have that doing anything for yourself or admitting it's for yourself is somehow bad? Like, they have this obsession with martyring themselves and feeling above others for being 110% "selfless". Ot's so idiotic.

>>440232
>implying everyone on this site isn't trashy
>implying you're not trashy

No. 440263

>>440260
It's covert narcissism. Parents are very prone to different types of narcissism, even if it's not a full-blown personality disorder they'll exhibit symptoms of it. As you probably know, we all exhibit some symptoms of various things and it's only diagnosed as a disorder/mental illness if the effects are too extreme to the point of ruining one's life. Not sure if it's society that ends up promoting these behaviors which then form a shitty personality over that parenthood identity, or if hormones tip some scales over when you have kids.

Parents almost always feel some sort of dominion over their offsprings even when they're older, and will self-martyr and then use that as a way to collect pity from others and create guilt in the child. Some parents do it far less, and only in later life when their brains are deteriorating, some parents do it constantly from the get go.

No. 440268

>>440232
Nta but literally what about that post is trashy?

No. 440274

>>440257
Ntayrt, but parents do it for the reactions of their kids. Even if the kid won't remember it, bringing them when they still believe in magic or whatever and will be awestruck at characters in costumes is what they go for. Ever see a sullen preteen at one of these places that is in the stage of hating spending time with their family and just wanted to spend the summer with their friends? I'm sure that's an absolute joy to walk around with. At least, all of this is my theory after having been to a couple of amusement parks.

No. 440279

>>440211

hang on
she wants people with kids to be able to jump the queue
but if childless people are banned then the line will be nothing but parents and kids

all this bleating about do you know how hard it is to wait in a queue with a toddler is so fucking entitled.
I've watched mothers with giant fucking four-wheel drive fucking two-storey baby buggies taking up all the standing room on the bus actually refuse to move off the bus to let a wheelchair user on. even though the wheelchair user legally has the right to that space.

Just even the existence of these huge unfoldably buggies demontrates the entitlement of parents today. when my mum had to take 3 kids on a bus, she also had to fold up the pushchair and put it in the storage space. imagine asking parents today to be slightly less lazy

No. 440286

>>440279
People's sense of superiority just for the banal "accomplishment" of procreating is insane. Nobody fucking cares about their life choices to bring even more consumers into this world when the planet is getting fucked up and the economy is looking dire.

No. 440298

>>440286
Yup. Kids born today are going to have a great time dealing with the climate catastrophe negatively impacting their quality of life, but those of us choosing not to bring kids in the world to suffer for prior generations neglegience are the assholes somehow.

No. 440305

>>440232
Hey look everybody, it’s a bitter parent.

No. 440311

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>>440211
>the joy and happiness of being a mother
>then exhaustion is described in the very next sentence
>"m-muh little Aiden!!1!"
>"I want to cut in lines because of muh little Aiden who won't remember his day in Disney World in the first place"
Can it be any more cliche than that?

>>440232
The truth hurts, doesn't it?

No. 440312

i cant stand parents who push their healthy fucking toddlers around in pushchairs. they literally dont need it, they can walk. theyre just taking up space with their giant ass strollers on the side walk and public transport.

tbh all strollers are annoying though, its so much faster and cheaper to just carry babies with something like those scarf things people sometimes carry babies in instead of spending 5 minutes carrying the stroller onto public transport and just taking up space.

No. 440313

>>440312
That's how you know a parent is lazy. They don't want to have to constantly corral their demon child in public, so they strap 8 year old Joshua down in a stroller that he's clearly too big for.

No. 440319

>>440211
did springs1 have a kid?

No. 440359

I haven't talked to my mom in a while except to tell her that my half-sister who she doesn't care about is homeless. My half-sister is actually a piece of shit (as a result of my mom's horrible parenting) but I just wanted to prove how heartless my mother is.

My mom is actually a sociopath (not diagnosed but anyone who knows her will agree). She only pretended to love me and my sister when she could get money from my dad, which she would then spend on herself. Hair, nails, tan, house decor–she's obsessed with her looks and has used them to get by. She's cut off all of her 5 children and doesn't care about them to the point that she could go on for the rest of her life not talking about them and pretend they don't exist. She's literally pretended that her least favorite of her kids don't exist multiple times with multiple boyfriends. I can't even process the logic but she really only had kids whenever they were financially beneficial to her. She's been divorced 4 times. She has no personality or interests, and would change her void of a personality to whatever the men she was dating were into. She would use my sister as her therapist when my sister was 8 years old. She made my self-harming and ED all about her. She eventually said she didn't care for custody of my sister but flat-out said that she just wanted money from my dad.

I also just wanna say that I don't see my mom as some villain preying on men. My mom is an obvious sociopath so I have no sympathy for men who get used by her, they're just utterly stupid.

She's a fucking horrible person and it scares me to even have half of her DNA passed down to me. I know people with incredible mothers and typically people with parent issues will have absent fathers. I really hate talking about my mother because she'd just be an MRA talking point since she's a sociopathic gold digger. I'd try to say that she's dead or something to avoid talking about her but I don't want to jinx her.

No. 440380

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Glad to see this thread again because I really, really need to talk about my uncle, my aunt and their absolute spoiled and out of control daughter.

>Said daughter is 11 years old

>Was never taught the meaning of the word "No" because giving this child boundaries is apparently cruel
>therefore this child does what it wants
>Interrupts you with "AnonAnonAnonAnonAnon" when you talk to somebody else because she needs the constant attention. A "can you please wait, I'm talking" is never accepted.
>Throws a huge tantrum when she doesn't get her way. Screams until she gets her way.
(Their neighbours hates them because she runs in the corridor and screams there, which is even louder but uncle and aunt say that everybody is hating her because she is a "vivid child" …)
>Dances and screams whenever she feels like to get the full attention of everybody around. If her parents tell her to stop they scream at her, which makes her scream back and everything gets loud.
>Called her parents names when she thought she doesn't get the play toy pony, which costed over hundreds of euros. She still got it so she could be quiet for christmas eve.
>Aunt excuses her failing in elementary school and blames it on dyscalculia (Went to a lot of doctors until she got the result she wanted)
>Demands special treatment in school because of her weaknesses in several subjects. Daughter gets special treatments at school to get better. Aunt complaints because it's not the way she wanted it and the way they do it is cruel to make her pay attention (no joke).
>Mistreats their dog. Pushes, hits and even chokes it whenever she has a moment again and she doesn't get her way (her parents just tell her "NoT tO do iT" but of course she isn't listening. I really feel for this dog). Or trashes her room.
>Owns so much toys and expensive electronica because if she wants something, she gets it.If she doesn't get it, also no problem, then she orders it herself on amazon when her parents are not paying attention. Her room looks like a hoarders room. They never throw away old stuff because she doesn't want it. She still owns toys from when she was a baby.
>She never learned to set hours to eat. She only eats nuggies, sweets and other unhealthy stuff. Never touches fruit and vegetables. Therefore always looks sick and pale af. And if you wonder if any doctor told my aunt or uncle that she is malnourished, well then I have to tell you that this never happened because my aunt doesn't go to doctors because her daughter doesn't want to go. Even when she had an accident that caused an open wound, they didn't go because the child doesn't want it.
>Said child has no friend (no surprise here). Auntie and Uncle doesn't understand it. Children of my uncles friends are always forced to go to her birthday party because nobody else would.
>Runs away when she is being told to be quiet. Parents only notice it when it's too late so they need to find her.
>Uncle has high blood pressure because of the constant stress at home.
>Both of them like to push off their child to friends so they can go out and not deal with her. One time they let her live somewhere else (grandmas placeetc) because they wanted a break from her and go on concerts lol


I could go for hours about them. It's an absolute horror to be around them. They, and specially the child are a reason why I barely go to family events because you can't be around this mess for more than 10 minutes. I swear they are the constant reminder why I will never want children or have children for the sake of having children because this is what my uncle did and here we are.

And to end all this, my aunt his currently studying child management, so she can help other parents to raise their children. NO JOKE

No. 440384

>>440359

i’m sorry, anon. your mom sounds like a literal nightmare. you deserve better.

No. 440385

>>440380
Holy shit what a nightmare child. Legitimately sounds more like an out of control 5 year old but 11? That's insane. Parents allowing this to happen to their child should be contacted by the protective services and have their kid taken into custody. She's in for a ruined life when she grows up.

No. 440386

>>440211
rofl oh man, this post fills me with power that i am a 30 year old woman choosing a career path and happiness over children. I love this saltiness

No. 440397

>>429179
I know this is old but who tf goes to a mall food court to relax?

No. 440401

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No. 440410

>>440401
Well played

No. 440413

A question to all of the horrible mothers kids posting stories here. Did your parents had you at a young age? (16-25) Divorced?

No. 440427

i have this shitty, irrational dislike/annoyance with small kids who aren't "smart" or above-average. i like talking with kids above 8 years old and with teens bc i can actually have somewhat interesting conversations with them and discuss broader topics, but i absolutely hate it when i'm forced to interact with a small child and they're one of those kids that are grossly understimulated and spend all day on their tablets and video game consoles, so they've barely touched a book in their life and have little to no imagination or curiosity, all they care about is their brain-mushing vidya. i acknowledge that this is an unfair judgement to make and that it's 100% irrational.

i know it's not children's fault their parents are shitty and don't encourage them to cultivate themselves or think for themselves more, but it's just such a chore having to deal with them bc they're just so goddamn…i don't wanna say stupid? maybe dumb is the word. i hate it bc i know they're gonna grow into dumb adults who never cultivate themselves or develop critical thinking skills. i've met fantastic 5 year olds who are an absolute delight to talk to and i could've sat with them for hours asking them questions and chatting with them, but i've also met 7 year olds who you can physically see struggling to think when you ask them anything at all. i cringe thinking about these kids someday becoming managers, leaders and bosses of anything. if it's a pain in the ass dealing with a dumb kid, imagine dealing with a dumb adult who's in charge.

No. 440463

>>440384
Literal nightmare is right. Her newest boyfriend is pushing 80, on death's door and she's definitely trying to collect life insurance asap. She also talked about how she wants to have another baby, though that's impossible at her age (thank god).

No. 440476

>>440427
why do you think they're totally hopeless at the age of 7? it's one thing to come across youth like this when they're teens, but they're so little. it's possible they could still turn it around – it'll just be more of a challenge.

are you the exact same you were at age 7? especially if you came from a neglectful home like these.

No. 440514

>>440476
my bad, you're right. teenage years is a more realistic threshold (even then tho, people can change)

No. 440758

>>440401
What is this from? I like the animation style

No. 441176

>>440758
The show is called 6teen! One of my favorite shows growing up lol

No. 441743

I volunteer at my local library multiple times a week, and EVERY DAY there's some parent with a baby or toddler that just screeches and/or runs around making a mess. There's a special children's room to contain them, but it doesn't have doors, so you can hear the ungodly noise throughout the whole library. I'd be okay with the toddlers if the parents read to them, but they don't, they just bring them there to be as loud and messy as they want like it's a playground. The most basic rule of any library is to be quiet, and everyone knows that, so why the hell do they bring their spawn in when they know it'll do nothing but make loud noise?

No. 441747

>>441743
>The most basic rule of any library is to be quiet

that's only for school libraries, not public libraries. no public library has a rule about being quiet lmao.

No. 441759

>>441743
- libraries have dedicated quiet spaces, it is not expected of visitors to be quiet everywhere
- they’re family friendly public spaces. If you don’t want to hear children then don’t go to family friendly public spaces, autist
- kids make noise, that’s just life, don’t be one of those dumbfucks that believes that children are to be seen and not heard.

No. 441801

>>441747
Wrong. My public library has signs everywhere about being quiet and it's more enforced than at my University's library.

No. 441817

>>441801
>University library
That's still a school retard

No. 441981

>>441743
I worked at a library for awhile and, while it's courtesy for people to be quiet, it's something that can't really be helped. Kids are going to be kids. Like other anon said, most libraries have quiet areas for people that need to study, etc.

If you're volunteering at a public place, you should expect some minor annoyances

No. 442017

>>223994
>you shouldn’t be on vacation if you can’t handle being some entitled twat’s babysitter

Do your future kids a favor anon, and don’t breed.

No. 442042

>>441817
???
Learn to read please.

No. 442053

>>442042
I was paraphrasing, anon…

No. 512732

>>221964
thats not true. Men get the custody. Men just never ask for it



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