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No. 2546545
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>What do you make?
>Where do you sell? Cons, local markets?
>What's the item that sells best/worst?
>Any advice for old and new artists and crafters?
>Somebody tried to scam you? Rob you? Harrassed you? Any horror stories?
>What's something you cannot stand in a con/market? Cringy cosplayers? Rude people? Other vendors being insufferable? Stinky neighbours?
>What's your no-buy list? (ex. you don't buy from people supporting gender ideology, you don't buy from weird, kinky people etc)
>What makes you buy merch or support an artist?
>Share tips! Where do you keep your merch? How do you protect your booth?
>Best social media to share art? Tips? (Please avoid basic stuff like drawing fotm or using tags, we know, we need serious advice)
>For the same reason, drop any resource that you want to share: con guidelines, con prices, booth prices, why you were approved/rejected, which cons are better and which are worse (for staff, people, position etc)
No. 2546631
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>>2546549Picrel, most cons in the US at least have a physical card badge with a lanyard, and you can stick ribbons on the bottom. It's like a big plastic card with your name and the access type on it (weekend pass, single day etc.) If wristbands are used, they're for adult area access only and the cheap paper kind.
Sometimes at smaller cons they'll have a paper/cardboard pass that goes in a holder, but the overall form is similar.
A lot have your name (or at least a space to write it), but I've noticed that falling out of favor with the more fancy plastic badges. They usually have some nice con related art on them too.
I've seen wristbands like you're describing at festivals, seems more annoying/intrusive for cosplaying.
Badge ribbons are also sometimes used for stuff like disability access, in which case it's something the con gives themselves. But usually they're attendee produced. Some people just sell them, but it's common to have them as rewards for doing a little task or visiting booths (stamp rally etc.)
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>>2546631I always hated those lanyard badges! They're clunky and ugly and imo ruins cosplays and outfits because you have to wear them around your neck in an uncomfortable way and taking them off often messes up your hair/wig. They usually only give these to staff and AA/vendors/guests.
The actual "badges" visitors get look like picrel, and it's even kind of a status symbol among some (usually men for some reason) to keep all the old bands and wear them all at once like in picrel to show you're a veteran con-goer. Though this guy cut off all the ends where the metal clamp is, but usually you can use pliers to pull the clamp out a bit so you can take them off/on after the con as a bracelet without having to cut it off as intended.
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What item do you earn the most from nonas? Do you have a big expensive one like an ita bag that gets you covered if you just sell 1, or do you sell like 500 stickers?
And as a site note, can you nonas please all become artist alley youtubers because every time I google something all I get is this lady and it would be nice to see some varity!
No. 2547632
>>2547139The wristband is fabric, it's equally sturdy to a fabric lanyard.
I think the main issue is that a lanyard can easily be taken off and thus used to let multiple people in in secret who didn't actually buy tickets. It's also easy to lose it if you take it off, or if the lanyard isn't one with clasps that open when you pull It's a safety hazard. On the rare occasions I've seen them at events here you weren't allowed to wear them any other way than around your neck for easy identification.
No. 2547948
>>2547802Depends on what your goal is. It sounds like your goal isn't to sell/earn as much as possible, but to sell out. So in that case your normal amount is fine, since you'll likely sell out and thus have reached your goal!
If you had wanted to sell/earn as much as possible you shouldn't be focused on selling out since that just means you're losing out on sales. For example it's possible you could have been able to sell twice or thrice as much of your best selling items at the smaller cons all along, but since you prefer selling out it means you actually have no idea how many of them there are a demand for. It could be that all along you would have been able to easily sell 15, 30, 50 or 100 of them. The only items you actually know the demand for are the ones that didn't sell out, because you know exactly how many you were able to sell of them.
How come you're scared of unsold merch? I love unsold merch because it means everyone who wanted to buy one got to buy it, and I don't have to restock every single item every con. Though I sell some items that have a long production time so it's a big chore and takes a long time to order more of those.
No. 2547960
>>2547948>How come you're scared of unsold merch?I'm a really small artist (I only sell original art so that narrows my customer base down to a fraction of that of fanartists) and even though I've applied to 8 cons this year I've only gotten into two. I don't plan on doing this forever either so idk, I feel like the initial investment that I put towards the merch will be completely lost if I'm left with tons of unsold stuff.
You make good points though! I guess for me it's just really hard to approximate which items will sell and which won't so I'm playing it safe by ordering less and restocking every con.
No. 2548407
>>2546969>>2548124Awesome! I’d love to trade, gift, or buy some merch from some of you beloved Dokononnies, but I don’t know how to recognize a
nonny’s booth while trying to avoid any accidental interaction about this thread with a tif/normie kek
No. 2548435
>>2548124If you get lost don't be afraid to get an uber, they're pretty common in the larger cities and I've never had an issue with them before, also saves a lot of trouble carrying around your luggage. I'm traveling on Thursday, thinking about setting up that day as well!
>>2548407I don't know how I could signal I am a fellow nona without outing myself besides having no pronouns in my social media bio kek. But I know it's not foolproof.
No. 2548727
>>2548407Of course I wouldn't out myself but let's say that no pronouns on table, no pride merch, no tif like appearance (meaning no patchy moustache, no broccoli hair, no ill fitting tank tops), no random gross shit (meaning no scars, no clearly self hating art depicting self harm, cuntboys or implied cuntboys - tifs do not draw women due to muh dysphoria but of course they love drawing gross looking pussies), no edgy stuff like a 7th grader would do and I guess you already cut out the most obvious ones. I learned that clean looking girls, meaning nice hair, makeup and clothes that are well kept/styled are less likely to be tras because tras love to shock with their appearance but also do not assume that every alt girl is a tra, I'm one before troonism became a trend and I hate how they appropriated goth styles. Look out for what they sell: the last yaoi fandom? There's a good chance that's a tif since they gravitate towards media only for the yaoi appeal, so look out for spokons, mihoyo stuff, male centric gacha, the new thing now is Alien Stage and Love and Deepspace, male kpop group fanarts and such.
On the other hand, look out for women (of course don't shop from males) that sell original art or more obscure fandom, you don't have the absolute certainity that they're not a tra but at least you wont be putting money in a tif's pocket to pay for her shitty testosterone. Avoid the nsfw area, not only it's full of shit art that only got it for having nipples and dicks out, tifs use the nsfw area to go full retard about self harming and yaoi shit and you will also avoid getting exposed to overall gross shit, don't ruin your day lol.
No. 2548729
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>>2548407>I don’t know how to recognize a nonny’s booth while trying to avoid any accidental interaction about this thread with a tif/normie kekI'm not going to dokomi, but I think one thing to look for (not just for nonas but secret terfs) is if someone has unnatural dyed hair and alt fashion but not a single troon/gender/pride/pronoun thing for sale (or as decor of course). So
>dyed hairBecause for troons the ones who look like gremlins with dyed hair are
never just casual allies, they're always super deep into troonism and feel obligated to have at least a few troon items (and more often they identify as troons). So when someone with dyed hair doesn't do any of it (and we know they're fully aware of troonism from being in those alt spaces) then that's a sign they don't buy into it.
>Harry Potter items on saleBecause they are seen as evil and supporting JKR/trans genocide. I still see several booths at cons where I live with HP stuff on sale which makes me very happy.
>Lizards/geckosThey're the detrans symbol. If you were to see one that just happens to have a message about healing or wearing a bandaid that's likely a detrans seller (who is now peaked and anti-trans).
>Suffragette colors - purple white greenAdopted by terfs, so if you see art that use these 3 as a combo in "feminist" leaning art that could be a sign.
>Cow (or milk) item on sale or as decorSpecifically for lc you could bring a cow plush or toy to subtly keep on your table, or sell cow merch. I think it's easy to make up a lie if anyone asks, like "oh my toddler niece gave it to me haha she wanted me to have it", "I grew up in the country side so it's like a good luck charm" or "I just love stardew valley a lot".
>Azumarill (the pokemon)It's the
terf pokemon according to lc, it's not unpopular but it's very rare to see it. So if you see someone selling basic popular pokemon AND azumarill you know that's a sign they're from lc. Even more so if it's in the punk outfit kek
None of them are 100% accurate, anyone could do any of them but the more of them a seller hits the more likely it is that they're a
terf or from lc.
No. 2549021
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I just got my first vograce order! Is it normal to receive a lot more stickers than you bought? I got about 60% more than I actually paid for
No. 2549954
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>>2549238>I usually get extras when I order 2 inchThey were 2 inch stickers! I think maybe you're right that they fill up the space or something, 19 is such an odd number to end up on.
I saw some egg themed art earlier and it made me happy that the egg trend has died kek. Does anyone else remember when everything was eggs? Have you disliked any art trends? Other than troon art because that's a given
No. 2551236
>>2548727>>2548729These are all great points! However, I noticed that some TIF sellers are quietly cleaning up their merch and their appearance since wearing deodorant and normal clothes is getting them more sales, but I'd rather buy from a crypto TIF than a gender gremblino who hasn't showered since 2010.
>>2549954Any trend, because they're all run into the ground after a week. The worst ones were succulents and coquette.
No. 2551423
>>2551161>dokomilkkek love you nona
>>2551236>I noticed that some TIF sellers are quietly cleaning up their merch and their appearance since wearing deodorant and normal clothes is getting them more salesI strongly believe those people are close to detransing and are getting bored with troondom. A true troon would never waiver on troon ideology like that. If a tif is clever enough to stop pedaling troonism in her art and appearance to the point she and her art look so normal a
terf can't tell she's a tif/pro-trans - then it might actually be a good thing that she's socially rewarded for it. That way she'll realize life is better detransed living in reality VS in a gender goblin fantasy world.
>succulentsI love the plants, but buying basic generic art of them… I guess that's not as fun huh.
No. 2551706
>>2551423Oh I agree about the TIFs! I noticed that even when they're squeeing about their husbandosonas with the unkempt TIFs they're pushed to the side and ignored much more than the true bois. Since being part of the community is such a big part of being trans, it's a real wake up call for many TIFs.
Succulents are great but the endless succulent-themed everything got old fast. Especially when it led to idiots killing their succulent hoards through neglect, or when stores decided that spray painting a real cactus and hot gluing a fake flower on it was a good idea.
>>2551684Watching the drama unfold between an asshole and another group of assholes over the most trivial non-issues is the best part of a con.
No. 2551817
>>2551706dont be shy
nonnie, share some milk with the rest of us
No. 2552044
>>2551817>>2551946Kek I wish I could but most of the milk is in private messages and I know that at least one of the people involved likes to 'self harm' by browsing lolcow whenever she hasn't had enough attention. I'd definitely be found out.
But the gist of the milk is that A 'stole' a super generic design from B, who is now calling it a hate crime. In retaliation, B is planning to copy A's next con setup and merch and steal all of her customers. B has called in her pack of attack dogs to steal A's ideas, none of which are original in any capacity, and most of her art is traced. One of the attack dogs, C, is now being called out by another artist for tracing her art, which C didn't know about because she was copying A's traced art. Both C and the artist calling her out are literal nobodies with less than 50 followers so sadly I can't even post that milk without someone getting suspicious. B is now panicking and making insane tinfoil posts, then crying in a private chat I'm in about how A is out to get her. A doesn't know about any of this because B is scared that she'll start drama at their next shared con, as she has a history of starting witch hunts and she has the most followers (under 100). Everyone involved in this pointless mess is an adult gendie who sells pastel kawiwi slop.
There are so many other personal cows in these chats, and previous dramas included meltdowns over color palettes of some items being offensive to otherkin, racism and twansphobia accusation wars over a sexy husbando design because no titty scars, and using witchcraft to steal customers. Again, these are grown women.
No. 2552450
>>2552044Well that's a mess to follow. Firstly, why are you friends with them?
Secondly if you've got proof of them tracing (and also admitting to copying on purpose), compile and use that to submit to people in charge of the artist alley/con you know they're applying to. You can even make a new account to do it "anonymously". Explain how you're a concerned citizen who doesn't think art theft is ok and these people are blatantly doing it and you wanted to give them a heads up so they don't accidentally let in art thieves to their cons. If they then wanna ban/blacklist them or still let them into the con that's on them.
Like you said these are grown adult women who should know better. If they wanna act like childish retards then they have to face the consequences. They give all artist a bad name. The people in charge won't rat you out to them or anything, they likely won't even tell them they're blacklisted.
No. 2554438
>>2554401I wonder how much that would cost?
>>2554418Tbh just seeing my art in a big format like that makes me feel like it's worth it even if it's only for special occasions
No. 2554603
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>>2554376Stolen from redshit, 3D printed at home
>"Battledroid was 8 rolls, 20 days printing 10 days finishing, about £200>Pit Droid was about 2 rolls, 6 days printing, 2 days finishing, about £50 No. 2555389
>>2555019Then do it! Though if you're buying a 3D printer to do it that's gonna be a big cost on its own too, and if you're not and try to find someone to print it for you then don't be surprised that the printing and shipping of a human-sized item will be very pricey. It's a lot different letting your own printer run for 20 days than paying someone else to have it run so they can't use it for anything else during that time.
Anyway dokominonas please tell us how your weekend went!
No. 2555785
>>2555389I saw someone in the artist alley having to take down a print on display because it had nudity in it. (Do people not read the basic rules?) Another artist got told by staff to stop selling their artbook because they put in someone's OC without their permission kek. I wish I could be more specific though.
Personally I sold really well! Even was able to walk around a bit to buy from other artist. Had a good time.
No. 2555946
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Posted with the caption "feedback is welcome and appreciated" so what do we think nonas?
No. 2556374
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Does crochet sell well at artist alleys?
No. 2556722
>>2555946i like the art, but then again i am a cringe millenial.
the set up is nice but might look a bit bare if she's at a bigger con.
No. 2557226
>>2556374I think not, usually they're too small and look too homemade or like "I could do that myself" so people don't buy. Keep in mind a lot of people who like artist alley are artists/creative people so if they like crochet they know they can also just download the pattern and make it themselves. It's rare that anyone sells something they patterned themselves even in AA. Crochet rarely has that "personal touch" (or "art style") that automatically comes with drawn art so it can be a tough sell.
And if the crochet items are big they're pretty expensive (takes a lot of material, effort, time so it's a given) and it still looks less polished than just a normal plush does by nature. I personally don't crochet and I know I will never learn it because I have no interest in it, so I have bought a small one of a character I like before.
No. 2558965
>>2558928They always picture terfs as xoomer women a la JKR and they love to mock the phrase "we can always tell" because they're the ones that come prepackaged in a uniform. I don't need to see a troon flag on a backpack to realize that the guy with estrogen curls and striped socks is deep in gendie shit but they can't tell that I'm against it kek. They're the ones that can't tell. Thinking about it, what made the situation funny with one of them is that he was so obivously and painfully talking in a high pitch voice meanwhile I have a much deeper voice when I talk in english (maybe due to the foreign phonematics) and I had no problem speaking lowly and confidently, meanwhile presenting as a hyper, goth femme with my visible chest (I was hot in there, didn't want to sweat under my neck area, like I care), in fact the thought of making them seethe just by existing gives me infinite power.
Anyway, about the con per se, what was the deal about the bathrooms being, apparently exhibitors only but then everyone could come in and out? Couldn't they pay a random bastard around 100 dollars per day to check the passes?
No. 2559041
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Made me giggle that this woman accidentally made the terf flag too. I know the "genderqueer" flag use the same colors but still funny how shitty this craft is and that she's wasting her time doing it because who the fuck buys a something a 4 year old could make at home? I say all that, but imagine walking up to her table like "oh this one is me!" and paying for it going "thanks for letting me rep the terf flag! I'll tell all my terf friends about you!" as you hurry away and she stares on in horror of what she's done
No. 2559730
>>2559596Some IPs are very aggressive when it comes to fanart, most don't give a shit because some nobody selling 4 keychains at a local con isn't going to impact their sales. I remember back when artists began to use Vograce and other manufacturers to make keychains, badges, pins, plushes and all that. A bunch of cons had issues with it because the goods looked like official art- regardless of the style or what it portrayed, the item itself looked professionally produced, and at that time (2010s) most people were still selling locally printed fanart and other things that nobody could possibly mistake as being official merch because of how shit it was.
Things are very different now. I haven't seen anyone have an issue with fanart for a long time, but you never know if or when that's going to change. I'd err on the side of caution and have plenty of original art to sell alongside fanart just in case.
No. 2559752
>>2559041Please buy the
terf flag kek
No. 2559839
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some libfem woke they/them female presenting gendie keeps writing cringe posts in the AA discord I lurk, constantly reminding everyone she is in Mexico kek.
Two of the responses to her post about wanting to draw Mexican themed art for artist alley were from handmaidens that didn't want her to "appropriate" their culture. Only one they/them autistic girl said she thought it was ok as long as it is done with love.
What are nonas responses to this? Is it more woke pandering? How is drawing Mexican baked goods any different than all the boba, pocky, lucky cats and weeb art of Azn stuff? This girl is another annoying white knight martyr, typical for American artist alley who can't think for herself.
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>>2559958Looked more into this, and it turns out that in the U.S. Funimation has stated they will allow fan art to be sold in artist alleys as long as it does not contain brand names/logos:
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-07-01/funimation-issues-statement-on-fan-art-and-trademark-rights/.89972(1/3)
No. 2560259
>>2559839>"can I draw this culture I live in and have an extremely close bond to because I'm literally married into it despite being white? Also I explicitly have permission from someone from that culture, the culture which I am part of now because I live here, is this racism though????"Actually so tragic that she still feels the need to ask. Must be a millenial/older zoomer who lived through the entire "cultural appropriation makes you satan" era on tumblr-twitter as a teen.
>>2559958Try it out with just 1-2 small pieces and see how you feel after that. Remember that if you create the art, it's still YOUR art that you're selling. You're not selling a pirated copy, you're selling original art that just happens to depict a known character.
No. 2560333
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Made the mistake of vending at a small con in my hometown that ended up being full of 1000% normies who mostly just stopped by to gawk.
Tons of people!! But only one teenage girl bought any clothes.
People liked my plushes, though!
I had ETC, Angelic Pretty, MILK, and Liz Lisa stuff all from like 40 to 90 bucks.
Tbf, I hadn't been to a con in years. Do people even like that kinda stuff anymore?
No. 2561043
>>2560970are there "iconic" knits like that though?
now that you mention it, the only ones I can think of are Jaime's hat from Firefly and the Dr Who scarf. but that's super dated lol.
I can think of the red scarf from Nana, but that might be too plain/obscure
No. 2561071
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>>2561043>are there "iconic" knits like that though?With that lack of creativity you just have to be one of the knitters kek
sorry just teasing you, but notice how you just jumped to "recreate thing" rather than creating something of your own
inspired by media? Sailor Moon didn't wear a scarf, yet this scarf is clearly sailor moon inspired. I NEVER seen anything like this from knitters in AA here. It's literally just the most basic one colored hats or scarves devoid of any creativity.
No. 2562356
>>2561071I knit, but not for sale or anything, so I was curious what you meant.
it's recognizable, but would anyone even buy it? I feel like it would end up being like
>>2560333 where people say wow so cool and don't actually buy anything. I didn't think anybody actually bought those amigurumi crochet dolls either
I think if you had the skills and creativity, you'd just open a regular Etsy store
No. 2562371
>>2562356If it's genuinely good enough people will buy it. Selling out of fashion brand clothes isn't the same as selling in artist alley. In AA people care about hand made goods and not about following fashion trends.
>>2562362That's gonna be hard to find, especially if you want them printed on top of that. Why do you need them to be so cheap? You can sell them for more anyway if they look good with your design.
No. 2562802
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Went to lurk in the AA discord servers and saw someone was asking about starting their own business. Some replies just spread misinformation so I hope the person asking didn't actually trust their words, couldn't be arsed to correct them though. But the hilarious thing was some enby woman replied
>"I tried it and the fallout was horrible"and out of curiosity I checked her out and it's literally the lady who made
>>2559041 and picrel is her other current art that she sells as mlp commissions. Yeah no shit your art business fucking failed lmfao
No. 2563541
>>2563319Raise the price to 15 euros at least! It's a small increase in price and your customers probably won't care about it as much as you do. If you feel like it's going to cost you customers you could price them at 18 each and do 2 for 30, you could add a cheap bag charm in the same theme as the bag, you could throw in a free print or sticker with purchase. 12 euros for a tote is way too cheap.
>>2562802Is this fucking traced? What's wrong with her? It doesn't take a genius to figure out that perler flags and atrocious art won't sell well, this is the kind of thing a 12 year old makes to decorate her room with.
No. 2563602
>>2563319Well either cut your losses or increase the price a bit and see if it still sells. Don't undervalue yourself nona! Remember that you can always lower the price or make attractive deals to lurk people in later! I sell a deck of playing cards for €35 when the initial plan was to sell it for around €18 but the added production costs really shot up… I was so frustrated because no one was going to buy a €35 card deck! Turns out I was wrong, enough people do buy it at that price that it was worth it. And now if I find a cheaper production method for it I can still charge €35 and know that it will still sell.
Remember that if you sell something for cheap, people assume it's poorly made and they don't value it. If it breaks it was just a cheap thing anyway, who cares. But if it cost more they value it and take care of it more even if it's the literal same bag. They assume the price reflects the production and that it's higher quality. You're just one single person, you will NEVER be able to compete with even a smaller sized store's cheap prizes because they can buy cheap stuff in bulk. You have to value you art for others to value it too. A standard totebag in a store (with like a tacky boring logo) where I live is about €13, which means an exclusive designer tote bag should be at least like €18-20 and will be acceptable for most people. Selling not because people like your work, but because it was cheap is no fun anyway. Unless your goal is to run a store with tacky cheap items, rather than to sell your art.
No. 2563619
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>>2563541>Is this fucking traced?The hilarious thing is that MLP is genuinely so easy to trace and draw from like screenshots of the show with minor tweaks and still have it be acceptable by the community and she couldn't even do that. Not only that but her other MLP commissions use the same base, she just changes the hair and recolors it see picrel
>What's wrong with her?"queer autistic they/she"
She's the type who also buys little trinkets/beads and strings them together to make jewelry. Because the pieces she buys are nice they end up looking pretty nice and I can see people buying that thinking she was the one who made it. She also uses forms/casts so she can say "I made this" even though it's not her design by any means. Most people who sell either make their own trinkets for AA from something like polymer clay, or they design it and order the items from a manu. So she's riding the wave of people assuming she actually made/designed hers too when she's actually just a kindergarten crafter.
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>>2563619>She's the type who also buys little trinkets/beads and strings them together to make jewelry.Picrel to show an example of it, she just bought flowers and rabbits while most AA people make their own
No. 2563763
>>2563619>>2563626She's tragic, damn. The earrings are cute enough
because she didn't make them but they don't really belong at an AA, they belong at Claires or Aliexpress. I can't imagine her being able to make any money from this unless she exclusively sells at normie-heavy cons with lots of tweens with pocket money to burn. She's definitely not making money from that atrocious art unless it's a pity commission from a friend or her parents. Cons seriously need to start doing better checks on their artists, toddler crafts are insulting to the other artists and cheapen the name of the con.
No. 2564538
>>2563626I have seen a lot of this shit in artists alley lately, and they have the audacity to charge $15-20 for them too. Bonus points when they start accusing eachother of "copying" their aliexpress beads and fighting eachother on prices because one person is selling the same items for cheaper aka not gouging. In my area we also have "creator corners" meant for these people but lately they're infiltrating artist's alley.
>>2563319I agree with other nonnies, dont sell yourself short! Try a higher price point. I think $20 is still a fair, low price.
No. 2564668
>>2564538>I have seen a lot of this shit in artists alley lately, and they have the audacity to charge $15-20Yeah the picrel is nearly $16. For plastic trinkets she bought and strung together. How do they keep getting in? Are the judges that stupid that they can't tell or do they pity them and let them get in anyway?
>Bonus points when they start accusing eachother of "copying" their aliexpress beads and fighting eachother kek true. This kind of people usually are the most aggressive about accusing others.
I have so much more respect for the "small shop owners" who sell their crafts in the actual vendor halls.
No. 2565670
>>2565529I take pics of ugly art in AA and send to my friend group chat and we all make fun of it together (they do this too)
I act fake nice to shitty artists and even compliment their work. I'm two-faced like that kek but I don't see it that way, I genuinely want and hope for them to improve (unless they're terrible people like gendies) and I'm happy for them if they do. It's like making fun of a kid for acting stupid with other adults when the kid can't hear it, but praising them and wanting to encourage their strong points when they can hear.
No. 2565698
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How the fuck do SO many people get away selling Sonic fanart full time? A lot of it is copied from the model as well. This is literally just that Chiiwara thing but as Sonic. On top of it, how are there entire fan run Sonic conventions, with artist alleys full of fanart for sale, and Sega does nothing?
No. 2565793
>>2565698Seems like it's one of those cases where they just pretend not to see it and purposely don't look at all. They know they're not actually losing money on the fanart and that it's good for them to get free advertising. But it is a potentially dangerous line to walk for them because if someone infringes on your copyright and you don't act to stop it you can actually legally lose your right to it. It's why big companies sometimes out of nowhere sue a kindergarten for drawing their characters on the walls. If it's brought to their attention they legally have to fight it even if it's benign.
My guess is they've decided to make their lawyers avoid fandom places fully and only look at the regular market, wheras normally they'd look everywhere by default.
No. 2566772
>>2566537The worst breed of lost normies are the lost dads, from 40 to 60. They don't understand shit about cons, treat you like a retard because again, they don't understand and try to make you laugh with them while they make fun of you. These old men can't grasp the concept that not only that space is not for them, so no shit that they don't understand, they belittle anything artistic because they see everything as useless and I mean sure, a plastic charm is not a life changing item but it adds flavour, moids don't grasp this concept at all. They also often drag their mostly male kids around to stuff that THEY like because they're obsessed to raise mini-mes so to them cutesy stuff is stupid. If they happen to have a daughter and they stop at my con, they ask me if that's really my job and why do people shop from me like the fuck would I know? Why do you even care? Do you know where you are?
The sweetest interaction was with a shy girl and her mother, I didn't speak their language because it was an oversea con and I simply said "Hey" and gave a pink charm to her all pink girl, the mother grasped english and said "Ohh, thank you!" and the girl looked at it with a big smile and then looked at me. I want them to have a nice time at cons and have nice memrories, that's all I care about for little girls and a five to ten dollars profit less doesn't change my life at the end of the day but they will remember. I want to see them happy, really, because I remember all the nice things that adults did to me when I was little and girls deserve it but since the world is rotten, I always do it in silence or I only talk about it in spaces like this thread because I know that people are bitter in AA discords/threads and either will call me a pickme of some sort or they will start doing it too for clout. I don't care for clout, I really just want to leave a nice memory to little girls.
No. 2567205
>>2566772>The worst breed of lost normies are the lost dads, from 40 to 60. Out of all the people I know who "don't get it" it is a dad exactly within that age bracket kek. Even old pensioners tend to go "that's nice dear, have fun with your little projects" in a mildly encouraging way.
>they don't understand and try to make you laugh with them while they make fun of you. I wonder what would happen if you played along like "haHA yeah it's so shit and these gullible people actually buy it, can you believe it?!" is that what they expect?
Maybe when they start asking question you should start acting fake nice with a touch of condescending (like talking to a child or tard) like "Oooh this must be your first con huh?" Laugh at his question like "haha oh you thought people do this for a living? It's a hobby, apart from the pro-artists of course but that's obvious. You can just go talk to con staff if you feel a little lost about it and they can help you learn about it"
No. 2567269
>>2567205Yeah I could do it but I simply chose to not to talk to men, when kids shop from me and they have a dad to the side I only talk to the kid, also to build their confidence since I've seen dads going "Noo, don't buy this! Buy THIS!" like mister please, shut your sewer mouth. When men get closer to my booth I simply look at them to let them know that I can see them but I don't talk. They buy something? Cool. They don't? I wont waste my time. They ask stupid shit? They get confused looks, I try to make them feel out of place because that's what they are. The gentrifications of cons made these fuckers think that cons were a family event, techinically they are, but it's not the Sunday Market, they believe that they can do what they want because it's a market for comics right?? It's something stupid, so you can treat everyone as stupid because you're older and the girl that sells kawaii keychains doesn't know any better, ahah!
I wish cons would become uncool again.
No. 2567293
>>2565793>if someone infringes on your copyright and you don't act to stop it you can actually legally lose your right to itNo, only if someone infringes on your
trademark. See
>>2560040 No. 2567360
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Nonas what's your personal opinion on this type of standees? Do they sell in your country/your local cons?
I personally don't quite get the appeal, they're like way worse figurines to me. They're not super common around here but I see a few here and there. I feel like they're better as a table mascot trinket/advertising than for actual sales.
>>2567269>Yeah I could do it but I simply chose to not to talk to menBased, I support it kek
No. 2567376
>>2567360I don't buy standees and I did one one time and it didn't sell at all lol
I agree, it's cute as a mascot, mainly with ocs, make them stand there and they decorate the table nicely but I don't make them because I don't think I'll find the right demographic for them
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>>2567360I'm an eurofag if that matters and I really like them. I really want to have some and display them nicely maybe with light or on different levels but I feel like they're also rather expensive for what they are. I really want a standee from one of my favorite musicians . Hizaki. But it's expensive and the online store doesn't ship to gaijins.
No. 2567493
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>>2567360I actually love these little standees. Basically they are great for flat packing in your bag and then you can pull them out and set them up so you can oshikatsu/otakatsu with your otaku friends when you go out to eat together. They are safer to take out in public because they won't get broken unlike an actual 3d figure, they also take up less space than a plushie.
Picrel is a woman I follow who shares otakatsu pics with her friends and they like the same pairing.
>This is yesterday's after party meat!!>I want to have another Jun/Hiyo after partyI've actually otakatsu'd with my friend in restaurants and bars with plushies where we even got approached by people who asked if we sell the plushies we had out, it was so cute. I'd love a standee though because a plushie could easily become stained where as standees are pretty standard wipe-clean.
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>>2567444ayrt and I'm also a eurofag, I was under the impression they were more of an american thing, or asian since they're typically produced in china and I've never seen anything like it offered around here (like in normal shops)
>>2567493>you can pull them out and set them up so you can oshikatsu/otakatsu with your otaku friends when you go out to eat together.Ok that'd kinda cute kek I'd prefer a plushie but I think that inherently looks more childish to rude strangers and I don't want them to get dirty… I can see it as a decent compensation.
Follow up question to those who like standees! What style do you prefer? Photo, full-size anime character, or chibi? Clean character or with backgrounds?
I always imagined if I ever got one it would have to be a big stylized one, basically in place of a figurine. Now that I think about it perhaps it's also a good decor item for kids, so they don't ruin an actual collectible figurine. But idk if they'd care though, they'd probably be disappointed they can't play with it as a toy the way they could with a figurine huh
No. 2567751
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Hows the AA @ Japan Expo?
No. 2567773
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>>2567771Dropped a photo of something similar
No. 2570242
I think that the market should be more exclusive and have some criteria like:
>Fanartists need to have basic anatomy and rendering skills. Let's stop with the tiktok monstrosities that have no linework but pretty lights and twinkles
>Original art/projects gets a pass but only due to the original ideas and the artistry of creating
>Branding artists (the kawaii sloppers and the quirky animal sloppers) should be limited at max 3-4 per category. 3-4 kawaii sloppers, 3-4 funny animals, 3-4 shitty humor and such.
Right now I feel that the market is so over saturated, it made everyone believe that they can do it with no effort and I think that the more more people race for a space and a booth, the more it will look awkward when the inevitable fallout will happen. I use cons to advertise my art, mainly, I do not consider it my main income despite making good money because it's so unstable and you constantly have to live on fomo if you want to maintain that money and the fandoms come and go, but as every other big trend came and went, I'm afraid that once cons will stop being cool among normies and the old school losers like me will have a family and will be deeper in adult life, no one would browse artist alley not because they don't like it but because the hype will be down. People move on and putting this stuff in a such high position is gonna make it fall harder. Artist Alley booths need a lot more soul to it, I can count on my hand the booths that I saw at Dokomi that carried actual soul and art without soul and care is no more than a shein product. Pretty but low quality, shit manifacturing and will look awkward in a few years.
No. 2570254
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And you're surprised? Absolutely hideous, Sonic is already simple, why shittifing him?
No. 2570284
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>>2570254This looks like a bootleg you'd buy oh Aliexpress kek. Why are some artists in the AA allergic to making genuinely appealing designs? It is possible to simplify him even more in a cutesy way, picrel is proof of that.
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>>2569291I dont know or care about these people I just found them on my IG explore tab last night. (Couldn't post due to 500 error msgs)
>unique displays>not cluttered>mascot looks nonbinary>generic circle eyed void cats No. 2570351
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>very cool displays. I love the awning
>organized set up
>art is consistent and stylized, but unfortunately looks too copy/paste and cheapens the overall vibe