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No. 321959

Talk about the good, the bad, the ugly.

This seems to be a subject that people on this board like to talk about and has derailed many a thread in the past so I thought we could use a place to talk about it. If a thread is being derailed by talk about American politics, culture, whatever, it can be brought over here.

No. 321960

I live in NI and I do see USA as a land that upholds freedoms and the right to believe in what you want. In some ways the states is very progressive and very regressive. I've always fantasised about moving there one day but obviously shootings scare me and the bigotry (since coming from a small cesspool of sectarianism). How do you US citizens actually feel about the day to day? Are jobs hard to come by in Stem fields?

No. 321964

>>321960
I live in an area that's got a huge concentration of gun owners and I feel 100% safe going about daily life. Of course, considering all of the mass shootings you see on the news, maybe it's foolish of me not to ever worry? Idk. As for jobs in STEM, there are plenty. Especially in big cities. I would think it wouldn't be difficult to find something and maybe the company you work for now (or will work for in the future) has a branch over here to transfer to.

No. 321968

>>321960
Lots of STEM jobs, but hard to come by art ones unless you have connections up the ass. Also, almost everyone conceal carries guns, knives, tazers, etc. every day no matter what state you're in. This is important especially if you're a woman. The mass shootings you hear on the news aren't apart of daily life at all.

No. 321972

>>321960
If you’re in an extremely liberal city like Los Angeles, you’re not going to come across gun owners as often as other places in the states. Then again, a place like LA has its own set of issues such as the fairly high cost of living and horrendous traffic.

The states really are just so varied in their character though. You can’t really generalize America entirely for that reason.

No. 321977

Not a citizen but visit frequently because of friends and family there. They actually live close to the recent mass shooting in Thousand oaks which is a shame honestly.

I never felt in danger because first of all it's California, and to be honest, I'm also white so I can't tell how a black gal might feel in the same situation. Though there was some local outrage over a local dive bar having a noose displayed, although the owners always assured it wasn't for racist reasons.

Everyone I talked to was pretty excited about where I was from. I never felt excluded and quite frankly, american people can be extremely helpful for no reason. Not saying that non-americans won't be too, but you won't have to fend off people trying to help you out when you already called AAA 5 minutes ago.

It's honestly a solid country but idk why everyone is so hellbent on calling it the best country or the free world, when imo Australia is just as pleasant with a better healthcare.

No. 321978

>>321964
Same anon. A lot of gun violence is in areas that people don’t necessarily choose to move to. If you’re a suburban-fag then you’re fine for the most part.

And idk why people go on about bigots and racists, for every racist old lady at Walmart theres some pink haired sjw spoiting their nonsense. Its a pretty even playing field. Sure there are trashy people, but thats universal.

If anything the US is just boring AF to live if you arent from a major city. And even then its just alright. This is coming from someone who lives aborad and is currently back home to visit for a few months. I dont have a valid license or a car that I can use. My rural-suburban neighborhood doesn’t have sidewalks or any decent lanes to bike in. People get married and pop out babies starting at like 19 amd have no real view of the world outside of their hometowns, but that can be said for small town folk in places like the UK or Australia as well.

I also think a lot of housing and apartments can look gross and ugly when you get into newly built suburban areas. At least down here in Texas.

No. 321985

>>321978
>in Texas
Hey, I'm visiting right now! Waco is a shit hole. kek How is this place a college city? It's in such sharp contrast to when I was in Austin last week. Which, it's hard to beat because Austin is far and away one of my favorite places I've been in the state.

No. 321987

Wish we could stop having weekly mass shootings, sheesh. Wtf is going on?

No. 321995

>>321987
If I told you the truth you wouldn't like it

No. 321996

>>321987
>hello fellow americans, I'm totally not american how do you do?

No. 321997

>>321995
Is it more jewish conspiracy theories? If so then ya, I'll pass. I think we have different definitions of the word "truth"

No. 322000

>>321996
I really am American and I like being American overall, but I'm sick of seeing these in the news all the time

No. 322001

America is cool but as a Brit, something I don't like whenever I visit is how you need a car or some other vehicle to get basically anywhere, particularly if you're not in a huge city centre like Manhattan. In the UK, even in London, you can basically just walk most of the time.

No. 322010

I'm American and live in a Midwest state. I'm from a suburb of a larger city so I've never experienced half the problems people shit on the midwest for. Everytime I go back to visit it feels so nice. I've been to smaller cities and really hate them just because there isn't a lot to do but I think that can be said for any small town anywhere in the world so eh. I find people who needlessly shit on the country as a whole to be really cringe and ignorant since, as has been said in the thread already, America is large enough you really can't generalize it. I see Americans who live abroad do this a lot and all it does is make them seem like they think they're "not like the other Americans". Obviously, not all are that far up their own ass but there are a lot like that.

My hometown is perfect for the type of lifestyle I want and all in all, the reasons people shit on it are just stereotypes so it really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. America of course has its own problems and different parts have different issues as well but I actually like living here since it has to be far better than in certain places in the Middle East.

>>322001
I hate this too tbh. My hometown has a good public transit system but realized they could do better so they're finally expanding it. I'm in a small college town atm though and the public transit is abysmal. You either hope there's a bus that goes somewhere you need(there normally isn't), or you just call an Uber if you don't have a car.

>>322000
Same anon. It's honestly sad.

No. 322011

>>322001
This is my main issue with America. i love my country but we are built to support cars and there are hardly any walkways here or public metros outside a big city. I live outside DC and far away enough where it takes a long time to get there. I like walking and i'm sick of how much the cars get priority over people walking. I can't afford a car right now, so it's extra shit.

Also, uber is expensive

No. 322015

>>321960
Shootings aren't actually a huge problem once you cut out gang violence. Gang members target rivals, usually.
You can stay safer, if you're still worried, by staying in places with less violence. But mostly, just don't go into shitty neighborhoods. https://crimeresearch.org/2017/04/number-murders-county-54-us-counties-2014-zero-murders-69-1-murder/

No. 322020

I live in Chicago and I hate it. Overall there’s a lot of violence due to gangs. The city is changing for the most part due to gentrification but I live in “the hood” so I still hear gunshots nearly every week. I live in a black neighborhood and there’s some bullshit going on outside of my house daily. The other day a girl ran her boyfriend over with her car and dragged him down the whole street. Even in nicer areas you still get horrible people going over there to steal so I mean it’s a shit fest here.

No. 322021

>>322011
This. I hate the whole culture of “look at that perfectly average well dressed guy WALKING and waiting at the crosswalk! He must be a crackhead or a drunk who lost his license” No Betty, maybe he doesnt feel the need to get in car and drive 2 minutes away for his lunch break.

I wish crosswalks worked better near my town. You have to wait super long for a chance to cross but the light goes back to red after 5 seconds.

No. 322031

>>322021
i used to walk to work and the grocery store because at most it was a 30 minute trip. i didnt feel the need to buy a $30k vehicle just to make those short trips. people really do look at you like youre poor or have a drug problem. and forbid you tell someone you dont have a car or license because the idea of willingly not wanting to drive is so far removed from people that its weird to prefer to walk.

but i imagine it was only so weird where i was because its not built for pedestrian accessibility.

No. 322036

>>322031
It pisses me off, anon. This is why so many americans are fat asses. No one is encouraged to walk. I'm from a pretty big city, so walking is the norm, but anyone outside the city walking makes no sense to a lot of people. Mainly because no sidewalks and pedestrian walkways are there for people. Places are built so far apart that you 'need' a vehicle to get around. Luckily there are bike paths here, but it's still shit.

No. 322039

>>322036
oh totally! i live in good ol southern burgerland and it really does live to the stereotype of rampant obesity. parks with walking and bike paths are just now becoming a thing theyre introducing instead of it just being a small playset and three football fields. sidewalks will end randomly along a roadside or if it goes too far away from a main road so youre walking in overgrown grass and mud. its unbelievable.

No. 322044

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>>322011
I live in the PNW, and I love it. Mass transit here is normal, and a good majority of people bike everywhere (including me). I feel really fortunate, because I don’t need to drive or even have a license to get anywhere. I couldn’t imagine living in any other part of the country because of this. Also, no sales tax is amazing. Always a shock whenever I go to another state because I forget that it’s the norm most places kek. Move here guys, it’s s piece of heaven.

No. 322045

>>322039
>sidewalks will end randomly along a roadside or if it goes too far away from a main road so you're walking in overgrown grass and mud.

This is like where i live right now!! I have side walks in my area cuz there are houses, but as soon as you get to the main road, the sidewalks end. They can easily build some, but choose not to. On a nice day, it's okay, but the grass is so overgrown that i'm afraid of being bitten by a snake.

No. 322046

>>322031
Same anon you replied to, my family members literally bring up my lack of driving ability every time they see me as if its a fucking intervention lmfao and I’m here for three months at most every year or 2.

“Anon we REALLY need to get you a license” 99% of the time they say it because they reached out to me to do some favor for them like babysit or house sit and got pissed because they had to pick me up or drive me home. Or because I can’t do school drop offs for their kids while they go off on vacation. Just whenever they want something basically kek

No. 322061

>>321997
No it's white men are just being "mentally ill" and they keep killing themselves because their "American Dream" isn't guarenteed anymore and they have to work like everyone else.

No. 322066

>>321959
I would ideally like to attend grad school in America as a Canadian. I think you guys get more funding than us.

Also, damn your strong dollars!! I remember when CAD and US were relatively balanced

No. 322069

I live in San Francisco, California and I interact with a lot of tourists from all over the world for my job.

I find it funny that both San Francisco and California are both romanticized by people who don’t even like America. But the truth is San Francisco is fucking filthy. Sure Coit Tower and Alcatraz are nice but what you don’t see is people shooting up heorin in board daylight or th rampant amount of homeless people (Okay, most tourists come across that but you get my point). I don’t think it’s a uniquely an SF or American thing but since I’m from here I think about it a lot. It’s kinda like how a lot of Americans romanticize Paris but when Paris has its own problems (Not trying to rag on Paris, just saying that no place is perfect).

Also another thing about California is that the coast (like SF, L.A, and San Diego) is nice but inland California is straight up hicksville, save for Tahoe.

No. 322071

Like some other anons, I don't have a car now and it makes it impossible to get anywhere here in a small "city" in the South. I miss when I was abroad and the public transportation was so reliable and safe, and I could walk everywhere. Here, sidewalks suck and I feel like I'm going to get stabbed or approached by some drug addicts for money when I walk to the grocery store. The upside to being an American is that I think society can be a lot less strict…you can kind of do whatever you want without pissing most people off.

No. 322076

Which places should I visit if I can fly from state to state but I don't have a car and a driver licence? Besides NY I mean. I want to either visit either Japan or the USA once I graduate and it's going to be in a long time but I want to make plans already.

No. 322077

>>322069
I'm from SF too (born and raised) and I feel like the city's gotten a lot worse in the past few years. The homelessness problem is completely out of control (straight up tent cities in some places). I've heard that the people in shelters are families with TWO parents working full-time. It's ridiculous how unaffordable the city has become. Kind of hilarious that every bougie restaurant has Help Wanted signs when no waiter could possibly afford SF right now (not gonna get into gentrification politics but obviously a city cannot be 100% software engineers lmao)

No. 322078

Ruralfag from the Midwest here, I hate having a car, but it's the only way I can get to work 40 minutes away from my house since it's the only place that paid well that didn't require college education. Winter is a bitch too. Everyone sucks at driving. I've had to go through 2 cars because of it rusting so bad from the salt on the roads, but I guess my fault since both of my cars were under $500. KEK
I wish I lived in a city, I went to go visit a friend in LA last year and we did everything by walking and busses. I felt like I had purpose in life. I'm cooped up in my house all day because I'm surrounded by cornfields and the only way to get anywhere is by car.

No. 322097

>>322069

Honestly, I hated SF. I couldn’t put my finger on why exactly but something just didn’t click for me.

For reference, I live in NYC. It is also a shithold. Come visit but don’t bother attempting to live here alone unless you’re pulling $80k+/yr in salary.

No. 322108

>>322069
I live about an hour from SF, I like visiting there but I would never want to live there. Once you take one step out of the designated event area, there are homeless everywhere and everything smells like piss.

No. 322110

Healthcare sucks out here. It's more affordable to pay healthcare as a single person than being married. You can seriously get charged $150 for gauze because hospitals are so money hungry. I went to the emergency room for a panic attack a few years ago and we were billed $7,000 to stay there for 4 hours.

No. 322116

>>322110
That's why you got to get public aid. Cheat the system.

No. 322126

>>321985
austin and central tx really are nice. north tx isn't really that pretty.

No. 322148

I'm in central EU and I hate, HATE the US vs EU debacle. The constant point fingering and culture fights between us these years has been soooo tiring. Your country has good and bads, ours have goods and bads. We should instead all unite in hating the brits, fuck those bastards

No. 322151

>>322148
I agree, the English should not be considered European or an ally of humankind

No. 322152

>>322148

The Brits have been better allies to us than the shitstains in central Europe so how about no.

No. 322153

>>322148
>We should instead all unite in hating the brits
This warms my little Irish heart

No. 322154

>>322153

You're mistaken if you think I have any love for the Irish.

No. 322158

>>322154
no one cares you salty brit lmfao

No. 322159

>>322158

I'm German. Shouldn't you be passing more archaic abortion laws or something?

No. 322161

>>322159
shouldn't you stop muslims from raping?

No. 322162

>>322159
You think legalising abortion is archaic? On a board with majority women? Embarrassing.

No. 322165

>>322161

And this is why the rest of Europe doesn't like your backwards little country.

No. 322168

>>322165
Hun, you realise that you're talking to multiple people?

No. 322170

>>322162

It's so pathetic it took until 2018 for Ireland to make abortion legal.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 322171

>>322165
>>322170

I'm from Italy, we had abortion legal since '81. Nice try tho

No. 322183

Any DC/DC area anons here? Might be moving there for work. I like DC when I visit but might have to live in a suburb and commute into the city. And I won't be bringing my car with me

No. 322186

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>>321996
there was literally another mass-shooting today

No. 322216

>>322183
I'm in NOVA, so I'm pretty close to DC (35 mins away)
It's expensive, but fairly nice. It's like NYC, but way smaller knit and the areas you want to avoid at night are pretty obvious.

Dupont circle is great though, which good bars and night clubs.

No. 322217

>>322183
samefag, but i wanted to add that the metro is okay, but can get expensive. Still, it's semi clean. Only bad thing is that it does shut down after midnight-1am

No. 322233

>>322216
thank u anon. I used to live in Boston, I feel like the t/metro are kind of similar, and has shitty hours, I think it closes at around the same time. The stations and trains in DC are a lot nicer though. Rent-wise it seems to be about the same as Boston, maybe a little cheaper. My 400sqft apartment in Boston was 1.9k/month, hope I can find somewhere same price/cheaper. Ideally I would like to live in the city, lets hope my job application goes well and they offer me a good salary

No. 322234

>>322183

I grew up in Northern VA (Fairfax county) and I'll be honest, getting around without a car is hard. It can be done, but it's not as easy as in a lot of other metropolitan areas. The Metro is not great. BUT your experience can differ dramatically depending on where you are specifically.

My experience of growing up here was weird because as an adult, I see why my parents chose it–it's got a lot of job and shopping options, it's got good infrastructure, etc. But I found it really fucking boring to grow up in. It felt like a place without a history–restaurants and shops that exist everywhere, people (including my family) from all over the world, no one with roots more than 10 years old. I have good memories, but it was never a place I remotely considered living in as an adult and the traffic makes it hard to explore. But the city itself is fun and the museums and culture of it are amazing.

No. 322242

>>322234
thank you!! yeah will not be bringing my car because I think I would road rage too hard and my head would explode, but hopefully if I'm able to live in dc near a metro station it will be possible to just use the metro.

No. 322263

>>322077
I visited a friend in SF and found it pretty ridiculous that despite having a decent job, he's stuck in a miserable shack of an apartment.

Idk how people do it if they're not engineers. Even Oakland is stupid expensive now. I guess you share an apartment with 2 or 3 roommates and hope for the best, or uber any extra hour you get.

No. 322267

>>322233
No problem , anon! All the big cities like nyc, boston and DC are really great. Just expensive to live in. I hope your new job and apartment go smoothly.

No. 322269

>>322234
Yo, fellow NOVA anon. I'm in Loudon country and it's a pretty okay place, but without a car it can suck. I really , really wish they'd have more bus and metro service, because i live near things, but without proper sidewalks, i can't get to them without taking risks on the road. It's frustrating.

No. 322316

>>322044
>Move here guys

Fuck off, I bet you came here from California.

No. 322347

I've travelled a good bit of the US this past year, and I have to say that eastern Virginia and West Virginia are the most beautiful areas in my opinion.

No. 322361

>>322316
Nope, born and raised here. Get used to people coming in, you’re the type of p-lander that’s the most embarrassing. Bitching does nothing kek

No. 322499

How come I never see anybody complaining about the racist portrayal of foreigners in american cinema?
Every other country out there uses mostly people from their country to portay the hero AND the villain.
Yet in so many US movies it's always
>american "hero" vs italian mob
>american "hero" vs evil russians
>american "hero" vs yakuza
>american "hero" vs nazi germans
>american "hero" vs chinese mafia
Oftentimes it's not even the main theme of the movie, but the killers just "accidentally" happen to be all Russians… What makes the American guy who killed a dozen the good one and the Japanese guy who killed a dozen a cold blooded killer?
Strangely not even tumblr sjw seem to care about this, but I find it incredibly off-putting. They truly think of themselves as superior.
Why do they get away with this?

No. 322503

>>322499
I think you must have tunnel vision, there are plenty of movies with Americans vs Americans. Also the Italian mobsters in American movies are specifically Italian Americans anyway.

No. 322507

>>321968
it's hard to find art jobs ANYWHERE in the world unless you have connections.
not us related, but art schools are, in my opinion, a great place to make connections (more than a great place to actually learn art).

No. 322511

>>322499
It's not racist if the plot just so happens to be an american guy battling the mafia of another country. That's pretty racist of you to assume. Also the italian mob is italian-american, you dipshit.

It's funny you're referring to retarded 80s movies like Samurai Cop, there's no politic motive behind goofy movies these.

No. 322514

>>322499
For some reason the film industry is obsessed with those over the top stereotypes. I don't think anyone cares/notices because the examples you gave are of white people or places the US have gone to war with, so somehow it's justified. I cringe when I hear a baddie with a fake Russian accent in a film.

No. 322523

>>322499
3 out of your 5 examples is whites against whites KEK.
Are you trying to say nationalist?
Most movies like this that release now do poorly, they used to be big over a decade ago. But who am I to say I haven't been to the movie theater in 8 years lol

No. 322536

>>322499
Not even that, the odd foreigner is usually the punching bag or butt monkey of the film unless they're Jackie Chan.
See: Beni Gabor in The Mummy, Indiana Jones' sidekick Short Round, every laundry service operator in every movie ever

No. 322558

>>322523
So you think you Americans are allowed to say and do whatever you want to foreigners as long as they're white? KEK
I'm not american, I'm not as obsessed with race as you are; if you look down on people from another county - no matter what they look like - then you are a racist in my book.

>>322511
>That's pretty racist of you to assume.
According to the anon above you I can't be racist against you, since afterall the US is a country and not a race…

>>322514
>>322536
This is exactly what I mean; the criminals (or the dumb loser-like guys who're only there to be made fun of) are living in the US (so no good "american guy battling the mafia of another country") but they constantly do have foreign accents etc.

No. 322567

>>322558
the anon above her is sperging about art school.

No. 322598

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>>322558
>I'm not american, I'm not as obsessed with race as you are

>Makes a post about American movies being racist

>Apparently doesn't know what race is
>Thinks movies with Nazi villains are racist

No. 323402

Do you guys think Trump will get reelected?

No. 323404

>>322499
Because the avg American citizen is just trying to get by. Plus, Hollyweird is run by American Jews. Take it up with them!

>>322069
Inland is full of conservative farm people and coast is full of degenerate shitlibs

I really can't understand why everyone is so obsessed with Californians saying they wish we would burn to death lol.

No. 323407

>>322558
>f you look down on people from another county - no matter what they look like - then you are a racist in my book.
you tard, do you know the definition of racist? you're using it incorrectly. the word you want to use is NATIONALIST.

No. 323419

>>322558
>if you look down on people from another county - no matter what they look like - then you are a racist in my book.

hmm so israelis looking down on palestinians and palestinians looking down on israelis are automaticly racists ? Kurds looking down on turks are also racists ? bosnian people looking down on serbs are racist ?

great analysis there, anon

No. 323428

>>323402
We just need an electable Democratic candidate next election.
People who shilled Clinton last time are responsible for giving this current idiot in chief a spot in government.

No. 323431

>>323419
Uh yes, despite the "racial" similarities they're different ethnicities and have different cultural bgs, also Europeans looking down on Arabs/Jews counts as racist all the time but they're technically the same race.

No. 323436

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>>322076
Ok so people are on the verge of racebaiting again but nobody answered my question.

No. 323455

>>323428
Bernie wouldn't have won lmfao. People who didn't vote, voted third party, or voted for Trump are the reason Trump is president

No. 323464

>>323436
I'd recommend seeing Washington DC if you want a nice city to visit. I was only there for a short time but I really enjoyed it, it's a very clean and beautiful city with lots of good touristy things to do and see. I also like that it's a good central location for the East Coast so you can easily fly out to other eastern cities you want to see.

No. 323510

why are people such cows when it comes to their politics? so many people have to "announce" their leaving one side to go to the other, it just screams attention seeking rather than actually discovering what they "truly believe in".

the elections happened and a few of my townie friends were talking about how some girl they thought was cool turned out to be a right winger. took one look at the girl's instagram and a majority of the people she follows are all right wing internet personalities like milo, lauren southern, and rando trad girls.

this reminded me of this long thread that was retweeted on my twitter timeline months ago of some guy who was bragging about how he used to be an alt-righter but now he realized he was brainwashed and is now a communist. took one look at the guy's following list, all left wing internet personalities & companies.

both of these people, all they know is discussing politics. how exhausting must it be to be friends with this person if all they surround themselves with is politics?

what do other anons think about these people who make announcements about themselves going to the "other side" of the political spectrum? all i know is that once someone starts bragging about their political beliefs, it's a red flag.

No. 323625

>>323428
I'm not sure who can really compete with Trump as far as having a die hard fanbase and also appealing to people outside of that.

No. 324881

>>323510
When people start talking about politics more than their daily lives and real world interests, it's never a good sign, no matter what those politics are.

I also hate it when people profess to 'know' that they're right. People who believe that shit are dangerous, whether they're political or not. They stop being objective.

No. 325912

Studying in baguette land and I absolutely adore Paris and France as a whole. I grew up in the middle of fucking nowhere Southern California, if you wanted to do anything interesting or fun you had to drive 45 min to an hour. If you have no car, you have no life. I also lived on the east coast for a bit and basically encountered the same thing. I’m in Paris now so cost of living sucks but there’s so much to do and see, every inch of the city has something interesting like museums, flea markets, I even catch myself just looking at the different architecture all around. I also lived in Normandy for a bit and visit Rhone Alpes regularly which are way more rural but still 10x better than the beige brown rocks and weeds I grew up around. There’s always a castle to visit, an ancient ruin to see, a regional cuisine to try. I seriously don’t want to go back, France is so much more pleasing to the eye than Southern California, and honestly a lot more friendly than they’re given credit for (in my opinion)

No. 325918

>>325912

I've taken a few vacations in Paris and Nice and I've always found that if I make an effort to speak some French the people instantly loosen up and become friendly. They usually still switch to English because my French isn't very good, but it seems like they appreciate that I made the attempt.

No. 325954

>>324881
Objectivity doesn't exist anyways. You'll always have bias, no matter what and thinking you are being objective just makes you less prone to acknoweledge your bias.

No. 326067

>>325912
>I also lived in Normandy for a bit and visit Rhone Alpes regularly which are way more rural
In Rhone Alpes it depends on where you go, you should try to visit Annecy and Lyon. And if you're rich enough or can find nice deals maybe you should try to go to the mountains there on winter holidays if you like skiing.

>>325918
I'm French but not white, and I find it funny because I visited Paris for a few days for holidays some months ago with some relatives and in some relatively touristic places and employees everywhere would immediately start talking English to us. Same thing with an Asian friend when we visited the south of France together. It was really awkward.

>>323464
I didn't see your reply, sorry. I see that Washington DC is small, maybe in the case of a long trip I should visit bigger places like New York or Florida and then end the trip with Washington DC?

No. 326829

>>325912
baguette fag here AND from Normandy ! Which part of Normandy did you visit ? Haute or Basse ?

Well to be fair if you go further into the countryside it'd be the same as what you described, just as any country that is similarly developped. A lot of train lines are closing due to too few people taking them and a shit ton of towns become more and more isolated because of it, and the result is the same as where you're from, no car = no life.
But France's countryside is beautiful and underrated.
I'm very glad to see someone enjoying France, as Paris often gets bashed for being filthy and filled with assholes (which is true, ngl).
How long are you staying there ?

No. 437505

Well, since this has recently come up in the GC thread. The DNC is definitely nominating fuck boy Biden, right?

No. 437518

>>321959
Is it just me or is 95% of the US really boring? There’s barely anything to do except maybe a few major cities, ie New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Orlando and Las Vegas. You can drop a pin on the map and it’s a high chance of being some small town Hicksville with nothing to do. No cool conventions, restaurants, pop up museums, night markets, unique arcades or cultural celebrations. Maybe the occasional beer fest or amusement park… whoopee. I’ve traveled to a few countries and even the small towns on the outskirts of the cities have more things to see and do.

No. 437523

>>437518
Well what the fuck do you expect? The US is way less densely populated than a lot of countries. Less people = less things to do

No. 437525

>>437518
>>437523
it's also like 100x bigger than most european countries with an extremely diverse landscape

No. 437528

>>437518
I think the US was probably really neat pre 9 11

Everyone I know from the US tells me that, and ngl even the atmosphere in the post 9 11 2000s was better

No. 437534

Tbh it feels like the USA is the epicenter of clown world

Between the regressive new age politics, callousness and detachment of people, enabling of insanity and radical ideaologies and being insulted for not being insane and choosing either insane sane, and the increasing morality and healthness and drug problems it feels hellish tbh

I know other countries have their problems but its like the US is constantly in a fever dream

Any other Amerianons feel this way ? I cant be the only one…

No. 437535

>>437518
I mean, every state has their own vibe, their own bigger cities and towns that DO have things. The US is 3.797 million square miles. In comparison, European Russia is 1.660 million square miles.

No. 437536

>>437534
>being insulted for not being insane and choosing either insane sane, and the increasing morality and healthness and drug problems it feels hellish tbh
what does this mean?

No. 437538

>>437534
Have you ever lived in another country or are you talking out of your ass?

If America is so awful then I don't see why more people don't immigrate like my parents did. Especially when most Americans face far fewer restrictions than my parents had to.

No. 437539

>>437536
There's decreasing life expectancy due to the opioid epidemic. But it's mostly rural mayos who are dying kek

No. 437543

>>437536
I mean insane side lol
It was in regards to the left vs right dichotomy

Also many right wingers aka conservatives in the US arent even actual conservatives, they are pretty much circa 2000s liberals who got shamed for being too edgy and not pc I guess enough and larp as conservatives

Conservatives in the 2000s and 90s used to at least try to care about shit like pedophilia and child abuse if anything at all but since the average conservative is aligned with meme tard shit and even weeb shit they cant even be assed to care at all

So then the only people who care about black, women, or childrens issues are fucking liberals who think turning your thirteen year old son into a daughter is normal. At least back then people tried not to appear outwardly sexist or racist but now its cool not to give a fuck at all and be as vulgar and disgusting as possible.

Like, in another issue, think about how easily Americans are extremely easily manipulated into changing their temperament and political beliefs over the years. Lefties used to defend communism and russia and Righties used to screech about russia and the ussr invading the USA now ever since Trump is in office Right wingers dont give a fuck anymore all of a sudden and see it as normal. Just thinking about it and how quickly it flipped flopped in many different parts for no reason is insanity.

It makes me feel like this country is literally insane and just a joke with no actual scruples or consistent values and attitudes about anything at all. We seem to change our face every decade or so. Theres a lot more to highlight but I am not explaining things too well atm. Sorry for being confusing

No. 437545

>>437543
> It makes me feel like this country is literally insane and just a joke with no actual scruples or consistent values and attitudes about anything at all.

Uh that's pretty much every country and group of people in the world. Anyone who says otherwise is probably lying.

No. 437546

>>437545
I dont believe that. Which first world or even second world country has radically shifted its faces and attitudes in just a few years like the US does ?

No. 437548

>>437546
Populism has been rising all over the world in the last couple of years. Do you not pay attention to international news at all? This is pretty obvious.

No. 437549

>>321959
I want to leave this country as soon as I can afford to. It's just endless swarms of partisan idiots who are either racist, sexist, classist, or all three at once. I live in a predominantly white, upper-middle class, "liberal" city and I've encountered so many of these people. Worst are the "well-meaning" liberals who do and say all kinds of fucked up shit and are genuinely shocked when you call them out on it. As a PoC I've worked in places as the only non-white and the amount of passive-aggressive bullshit I had to put up with is ridiculous. Crap like people trying to "empathize" with me by telling me about some poor kid they sponsor in Haiti or how they had to ride the bus one time. People making snide remarks about my food smelling "weird" or "different" or shocked when I tell them people in my parents' home country are multi-racial and that they have universities, internet, cable tv, and other modern conveniences too. At this point, I actually believe these so-called liberals are more racist than mid-western and southern conservatives.

No. 437551

>>437543
i think the big issue with that is that there is no money in being a moderate in the US and whether you're left/liberal/right/conservative, that is always the driving force behind policies in both directions.
the hugboxes and echo chambers via the internet and especially websites like reddit have definitely drawn more distinct lines in the sand as well.
the US is also very diverse in not only cultures and ethnicities but there are also huge disparities in wealth in even small areas. that ends up forcing the political cycles into a race for the most voters and whoever can be the most vocal about "x oppressed group" will be the ones getting the most attention and shifting the views of those incapable of forming their own.

as far as politics are concerned, and whether or not this is actually a US-only problem or not is debatable, the biggest problem is virtue-signalling and i don't see that changing any time soon.

No. 437553

>>437549
sounds like they are just socially retarded and uneducated about whatever your home country is. you'll probably run into these issues in any country that is a white majority, especially if you're from somewhere obscure. people generally suck at relating to others that are perceived as being different than themselves.

No. 437554

>>437548
I have, and I am living internationally at the moment, but it still doesnt change my opinion.

It is deeper than the issue of populism.

No. 437556

>>437551
Yeah, internet culture hasnt been helping with this issue at all.

I see more people realizing how regressive its been for all of us but I also doubt theres progression to be made ahead of time soon.

But who knows, maybe the US can become something worthwhile again. My friend is really sure that in the 2020s the US will go through a fantastic change, but then again his family owns land and he makes a living off of bitcoin, so that is already a different perspective from the average American.

No. 437559

>>437556
I don’t see anything changing here until sjw culture dies down. This next election will certainly be pandering to has many sjw topics as possible because outrage culture is so huge right now. People really have a hard-on for Bernie right now but he’s just as bad about pandering to these people as anyone, but there will never be a truly moderate candidate as long as they are able to keep people at odds with each other over topics as obscure as trans rights and anything else that could be comparable.

No. 437568

>>437559

Trump will probably win again tbh, nothing was learned, democrats just doubled down on the same things that pushed people away from them.

No. 437573

>>437568
i feel the same way. still holding out hope that maybe he dies before the next election. he is 73 yrs old after all.

No. 437584

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>>437568
The most likely scenario

No. 437587

>>437568

i'm so scared Trump is gonna win again only because democrats havent done SHIT in years and have nothing to offer. also, most of the mid west and south is still highly white and racist /sexist as fuck. i met too many people on PS4/PSN online that are openly trump supporters and trash humans since they are middle class white men.

No. 437588

>>437573
here's hoping, sis! still shocked no one has tried to assassinate him yet tbh.

No. 437596

>>437568
>>437588
The fact people kept whining about Trump yet there were only half assed protests and barely any attempts to get anything done despite Twitter fingers made me lose all hope for this country

Like, even if you like Trump zoomers and milennials who grew up with progressive attitudes that cried about how Trump was ruining their country and then you see them not do shit and barely make any real fight its STILL a shameful display

No. 437607

>>437596
I mean what are you gonna do, lol? Even the Democrat politicians who talked shit on Twitter etc. about the flaws in the electoral system didn't actually try to pass any meaningful legislation to make sure this shit doesn't happen again. It's all just a numbers game to most of them, it's about money. Lobbyists literally buy politicians.

No. 437623

>>437596
Trump honestly hasn’t even done anything significant policy-wise since he’s been in office. He’s just a big personal embarrassment.

No. 437637

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>>437623

yeah, a lot of it is perception, but seems like a regular ass president in the overall balance of what he did or didn´t do and the lives of Americans are not that much different from 4 years ago.

i think getting over the Trump derangenment syndrome is a first step into making strategies and start making proposals that actually make sense and can get people on board. Screaming "orange man bad" for another 4 years won´t do anyone any good. They could have learned that already from the first election.

No. 437642

>>437623
>>437637
i disagree, many poor people, especially women have been fucked over by him. foodstamps and welfare policies for single moms are fucked.

No. 437650

>>437642
nta but could you point me to some literature on this? my boyfriend has family (one of them is a single mother) that just got approved for food stamps and got unemployment backpay.

No. 437651

>>437623
>a big personal embarrassment
Good enough reason for me.

No. 437655

>>437651
hey, me too. just trying to look on whatever bright side there could be to this bastardization of politics.

No. 437715

>>437623
yeah the combination of him not doing anything, his tendency to make a fool of himself by getting simple facts wrong, and his scrote whining is what makes him so disdainful, he can't even falsify acting like anything but a spoilt manchild and it's fucking embarrassing for the country as a whole. even more embarrassing that so many people support and endorse him yikes

No. 437790

>>437715
>even more embarrassing that so many people support and endorse him yikes
I feel that a lot of people did just to see something different, but I hope they've realized the error of their ways by now. I get that people are sick of politicians, but in this case, the alternative was no better.

No. 437791

I can't afford to go to a doctor and I need dental work done that is going to cost thousands upon thousands of dollars. I honestly don't see the point in having and raising children in the US unless you're extremely wealthy, human life is cheap when you can't even live without becoming bankrupt.

No. 437792

>>322069
As a yuropoor, I blame Full House for making me romanticize San Francisco all these years

No. 437793

>>437791
Same. I have one tooth that's been rotten and broken for years now. My wisdom teeth are all impacted and also rotten. I was malnourished for much of my life because of shit diet also my genetics are shit, so no matter how on top of my oral hygiene I stayed, this is the result. I could never really afford regular dental visits for cleanings or anything. At this point, I'm just waiting to die from an abscessed tooth, I guess.

No. 437814

>>437793
have you applied for medicaid? most state-run plans will cover extractions and basic cleanings for free.

No. 437818

>>437814
NTA but the state I am from, Texas, doesnt give you medicaid as an adult unless you are elderly, taking care of a kid, or have disabilities. Shit is retarded

No. 437859

>>437814
Medicaid doesn't cover dental.

No. 437862

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>>437859
Samefag, nvm, my state covers emergencies. Nice. So I won't die?

No. 437863

>>437862
Lmao why is Alabama so shit.

No. 437866

>>437862
I love how all the states who don't full or basic coverage are full of conservatives who bleat nonstop about how much they hate taxes and welfare.

No. 437871

>>437866
*and have populations with the most health problems.

No. 437875

>>437863
Yeah, you couldn't pay me to live there. It's a naturally pretty state, tbh I like to visit, but goddamn.

No. 437880

>>437818
>>437793
>>437791
Many dentists offer discount/payment plans for patients without insurance now (because it’s absolutely common these days). I would shop around for something like that. Worth it to make a few payments on an extraction rather than dying of a brain infection because of an impacted tooth.

No. 437939

>>437791
Children are expensive. I remember it being set in stone I didn't want children unless I was well financially stable. In college I remember a classmate saying raising a child from birth to 18, cost at least one million dollars. At that point I was like, "Ok… I'm for sure not gonna have kids anytime soon. I'm too much of a poorfag, I can't even raise myself without something coming up every couple months that leaves me struggling for weeks."

No. 438459

Any thoughts about Andrew Yang? He's a 2020 Democratic Presidential Candidate with the slogans "Not Left, Not Right, Forward" and "MATH - Make America Think Harder". He got a BA in economics at Brown University and a law degree at Columbia Law School. Most notably he created a nonprofit called Venture for America, which was about recruiting young people into start-ups in developing cities in the middle of the country instead of them all heading to work in California or New York.

His biggest policy is the Freedom Dividend (a Universal Basic Income plan) of $1000 dollars a month to every US citizen over the age of 18. It would mostly be paid by a 10% Value Added Tax and re-purposing money from certain welfare programs (people would have to choose between food stamps and UBI for example, but SSDI and Medicare would stack). He also wants to implement a financial transaction tax and a carbon fee.

The reason why he wants UBI is because he believes that in the next 12 years 1/3 of American workers are at risk of losing their jobs (retail workers, truck drivers, call centers workers) and that these people won't be able to find another low skilled job or retrain for a new job right away. This would lead to drug overdoses, suicides and a major destabilization of society.

His second major policy proposal is Medicare for All. He says that there's plenty of money in the system to create a better functioning healthcare system for all citizens. It would also help employees who are currently tired to their jobs because of the healthcare benefits.

His third biggest policy is Human Centered Capitalism. The idea is to make our economy serve people rather than the other way around. Basically the government would measure and invest in human welfare, to try to raise the standard of living in this country.

He has 100+ other policies on his page. One example being Democracy Dollars. Every American gets $100 a year to give to candidates, use it or lose it. These Democracy Dollars would, by the sheer volume of the US population, drown out the influence of mega-donors.

He gets attacked for being a communist (giving everyone free money), a libertarian Trojan horse (he's going to gut welfare), alt-right (NEETS like free money) and mainstream media ignores him as much as possible. Currently he's 6th in polling among Democrats. He has broad appeal with Republicans and Independents so he could win the general election if he became the nominee. His biggest problem at the moment is name recognition.

Also I'm not a shill I just like the guy and want people to know about him.

No. 438463

>>438459
The UBI stuff is something I'm really sympathetic to, but I just see it as a bandaid solution. People just living off of the state in a state of not satisfying desire for anything other than drugs/sex/video games seems like a dystopia.

I'm more a fan of the Butlerian Jihad solution myself.

He's also too soft on immigration and I'm not sure if a Chinese president would be prepared to protect US interests against China.

No. 438464

>>438459
Sounds like the war hero governor character from Veep.

No. 438465

>>437556
The big problem with the US is that there's no real left-wing. There's just two liberal parties (liberal in different ways).

There's also no national unity since the country has become so polarized. I saw Donald Trump Jr. post something on Twitter the other day about China's influence in Hollywood and American entertainment in general (basically turning it into an environment where all criticism of China, or even anything that made China look slightly bad, would be purged by threat of investment withdrawal) and all the replies were just people shouting at him and claiming it wasn't an issue compared to Russia.

You would think that something like that should be a proper cross-party consensus issue that all Americans could come together on. Stopping China buying out and holding our entertainment industry hostage. But it isn't.

No. 438483

>>438463
UBI isn't supposed to be like welfare where if you make more money you lose your benefits. Most people would still work, help their community or study instead of living off the bare minimum of 12k a year indefinitely. There's always going to be people that can't contribute to society though.

He's Taiwanese, they don't really like China over there. He thinks it's a priority to beat them in AI research.

>>438465
Yang's trying to depolarize the country, which doesn't work that well in short form formats since it's hard to get his platform across in 2 min. Some people find his attitude weak.

No. 438485

>>438483
>He's Taiwanese, they don't really like China over there. He thinks it's a priority to beat them in AI research.

That's good to know. But a lot of America's most famous spies for China are actually of Taiwanese extraction.

No. 438487

>>438459
he's Diet Bernie and probably won't gain any traction

No. 438522

>>438485
It seems unlikely to me that his parents would have been spies considering that (from wikipedia) "his parents met while they were both in graduate school at the University of California, Berkeley. His father graduated with a Ph.D. in physics and worked in the research labs of IBM and General Electric, generating over 69 patents in his career. His mother graduated with a master's degree in statistics and later became an artist." They seem like successful people that left Taiwan early in their lives for better opportunities in the US. Andrew Yang worked as a corporate lawyer for 5 months before quitting because he didn't like what it was doing to him ethically/morally. Also why would a Chinese spy run for president on such an unusual platform… it would make more sense to run for something more low-key I think? Anyway if he gains any more traction people will investigate any possible ties to China…
The media already tried to call him an alt-right white nationalist because he tweeted out a statistic saying white people deaths outnumber births in half the states mostly because of low birth rates and white men dying from substance abuse and suicide. Obviously he doesn't look like a white supremacist.

>>438487
How is he Diet Bernie? He was for Bernie in 2016 and is currently running for President because he wants to bring up the topic of automation and he doesn't think Bernie's solutions go far enough. UBI + M4A is MORE progressive than Bernie's policies. Here's an article explaining why it's progressive, it's a cash transfer from the top 6% to the bottom 94%: https://medium.com/basic-income/there-is-no-policy-proposal-more-progressive-than-andrew-yangs-freedom-dividend-72d3850a6245

No. 438527

>>438459
I've loved him since I first heard of him. Not for the free bux, but he has a lot of policies that I think are important and no one else seems to talk much about. Since Trump was essentially meme magicked into office, I'm hoping maybe the YangGang can meme this guy into DNC nomination at the very least. The fact that the media is trying to ignore him as much as possible is very telling to me. Even Elizabeth Warren has been getting more press.

No. 438544

>>438527
https://www.yang2020.com/policies/

I feel that anyone could scroll down his policies and find at least 10 that they agree with, if not more.

No. 441067

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How come in the US this can be tweeted but if it was the reversed side people would cry about it being race baiting and starting mess? Why isnt Trump and shit like this considered race baiting and divisive garbage, by Americans? Its just seen as racist man bad instead of actually being RACEBAITING like it would if it was Obama tweeting it.

No. 441591

>>438459
I like Yang a lot. I love that he is the only real futurist who is thinking about the next step rather than stewing in the same smokescreen policies that other candidates are pushing. Disappearing jobs is a reality and it will only get worse. Someone has to start the conversation about how we move forward with that, rather than band-aid style avoidance. Love that he is clear on his policies and he will be the person to open up the conversations on tech-facing issues.

Think about that Facebook debacle regarding user privacy. Think about how retarded and tech-ignorant the representatives were in questioning Zuckerberg. We need politicians that understand issues that tech brings and their solutions should not be to revert to fucking… coal and shit. Yang is a step in the right direction. We need more futurists.

No. 455749

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Why Ilhan ?

No. 455752

>>441591

Yeee das rite, based china man offering us free gibs and shieet, thats the policy i like sistah

No. 455761

>>455749
unless she kidnapped him, blame the man for cheating and leaving y'know, HIS actions

No. 455762

>>438522
All the Taiwanese that left Taiwan that early were waishengren so they are of mainland origin, they aren't ~true Taiwanese~ according to a lot of Taiwanese which is kind of bullshit because the only true Taiwanese are the indigenous Formosans. Taiwanese identity is complex and most Taiwanese-Americans identify as both Taiwanese and Chinese. Especially since the earliest Chinese immigrants dating back to the Qing Dynasty, known as the loh wah kiu, looked down on them for being fresh off the boat Mandarin speakers so the Taiwanese had to form close relations to them if they wanted to survive. Chinatowns also incorporated Chinese from SEA and remain highly diverse to this day. This anti-Taiwanese sentiment was also the case in Canada although the loh wah kiu hated Hong Kongers more since Hongkies had that insufferable British snootiness.

No. 455763

>>455761
You cannot date a person who does that and be ok. Despite their actions being their responsibility, this reflects on you for being with such a person.

That's like dating a criminal. Yes, technically you are not guilty of his crimes, but you are actively dating someone who is hurting people, that also reflects on you.

No. 455764

>>455749
this should be overlooked like conservatives overlooked trump's philandering, admitted sexual assaults, and disgusting comments.
they made their bed, so they can lie in it

No. 455766

>>455764
I'm sorta disappointed that she choose to cheat on her Husband with some old pudgy guy

No. 455771

>>455763
it's also insanely arrogant. i don't understand people who are so impressed with themselves that they think their new pet cheater won't cheat on them too.

No. 455833

>>455752
This is why the US will never be united. You are quick to mock people and reduce opposing side to racial stereotype without knowing shit about the other.

No. 455907

>>455749
side note: dude im so sick of hearing about her and aoc and the other one (two?) who cant stop saying/tweeting stupid shit to remain relevant. it's because they don't actually know how to properly legislate shit but they have to cater to their weird fan club somehow. aoc is probably the least qualified person in congress yet i'm constantly reading about her. no, I don't want to read ~aoc's fire clapback to this white man about heteronormativity~

No. 456005

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>>455907
>aoc's fire clapback to this white man about heteronormativity
Their were/are so many women like this on Tumblr and r/TrollXChromosomes,women who make jokes about straight white men,who say say they hate men but If you go to their Instagram or faebook accounts you'll learn 9/10 times they're dating a conventionally attractive white dude

No. 456019

>>456005
I mean misogynistic dudes are often in relationships with women (except most the time they're unattractive)

it's kinda scrottish to believe pink pilled women should leave men while misogynistic dudes just load up on women

No. 456036

>>456019
why brag about being a pink pilled misandrist if you’re gonna have a bf/Husband? either go big or go home.

No. 456045

>>456036
because it pisses men off women can hate men and still have men chase them, not to mention it gives men an incentive to not treat women like shit because of the fact there's desperate men out there who worship women no matter how much they hate men

it also hurts them because they love going on about their revenge fantasies about how the bitter roasties will hit the wall and become lonely

if they realize even beckies who hate men can get chads it will force them to die bitter and lonely or force them to start respecting women and working on themselves

like I said, if misogynists from hell can have wives and girlfriends and it doesn't invalidate their misogyny I don't see why women can't be pink pilled and have husbands or boyfriends, if anything I believe more pink pilled women should own boyfriends and husbands as look as if the woman is in charge

No. 456050

>>456045
>if anything I believe more pink pilled women should "own" boyfriends and husbands as look as if the woman is in charge

wdym by own boyfriends and husbands ?

No. 456052

>>456048
>That sounds sorta controlling.
good
>>456050
exactly what I mean, give men a taste of their own medicine

No. 456059

>>456052
this is why radfems are fucking retarded. stop trying to take the place of men. we have enough shitty men without shitty women trying to be like them.

No. 456064

>>456052
>>456059
alright lets change the topic.what type of men would ever willingly date pink pilled women ?

the only two types of men I can think of are the dreaded "Male Feminist" or guys who are truly apolitical and don't use that Internet much

No. 456071

>>456064
despite you and others' claims, some men grew up to not become slithering piles of trash.

No. 456072

>>456064

cats and dildos lol

No. 456074

>>456064
men who know their place
>>456059
>stop trying to take the place of men.
failing to see the issue, at least we aren't the ones killing men and putting them in the hospital when we're the doms
>we have enough shitty men without shitty women trying to be like them.
it's only fair, if misogynistic men can have girlfriends pink pilled women should have boyfriends

No. 456077

>>456074
go away necessaryspeed4

No. 456078

>>456074
again, these are just reasons why you're retarded. maybe instead of trying to get back at men like vindictive children, you'd focus on helping your fellow women fix their clearly low self-esteem.

these "REEE MEN!" "MEN ARE MEANIES SO WOMEN SHOULD BE TOO!" posts and anons are killing the board. i'm for political lesbianism just so you crazy retards don't breed.

No. 456080

>>437791
Ironically needing dental work I found out is a first world problem (unless you have a cleft lip) because apparently the food we eat since kids has fucked up our teeth. All that sugar and soft food we ironically give children to eat fucks up their teeth, making them go to the dentist.

No. 456081

>>437875
It's only pretty if you live in a high-income neighborhood, where most people don't live, so yea..

No. 456085

>>456080
>dentistry is for the first world
Omg, hahahaha.
There's tons of bad shit that can happen to teeth that aren't cleft lips and cavities caused by sugar. People with no access to a dentist even with low sugar diets have horrid teeth.

No. 456087

i know it wont happen anytime soon but goddamn i just want healthcare to fucking figure its shit out. i pay for private insurance every month but its still too expensive to use it. shapiro will say its a me problem but fuck that, i have a job and children to take care of, i would love to fit a second side job in but i have to sleep, shit, cry, maybe read a book at some point.

and fuck anyone who think health care is first world only (including mental and dental)

No. 456089

>>456085
Dying of an infected tooth never happened before modern western dentistry, and never happens in the third world now apparently.

Galaxy brains abound itt.

No. 456091

>>456085
So why do so many tribes and natives before interacting with colonialists have nice straight teeth?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/3hfzq2/teeth_of_australian_aborigines_when_eating_their/

No. 456094

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>>456091
Anon..hold up. Are you trying to say that because some people who ate a low sugar tribal diet do t have bad teeth, nobody ever gets cavities,infections,enamel erosion, wisdom teeth, or misaligned teeth?

Cause I guess that means this photo of ancient Egyptian dentistry means every single ancient Egyptian had bad teeth.

No. 456096

>>456094
No, I'm saying the FREQUENCIES in cavities and what not are extremely low

No. 456105

>>456096
yes could you imagine that changes in food consumption based on preservation, availability and advances in food technology (whether for good or bad) would seem off compared to people who did not have such available to them?
i hate that we compare modern life to tribal and expect that to be the discussion ender. they didnt have access to the things that we have now and dont realize we take advantage of. if you want to vie for tribal life so hard, get rid of the things that you have that they didnt. goddamn, its on par with the fags who praise the 1950s for being wholesome without knowing what really went down then

No. 456106

>>456096
And that makes dental disease a first world problem?

No. 456132

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No. 456134

>>456078
>you'd focus on helping your fellow women fix their clearly low self-esteem.
maybe stop accusing all women of having low self-esteem if they're beliefs are different from yours
>REEE MEN!" "MEN ARE MEANIES SO WOMEN SHOULD BE TOO!
I mean, straw-manning and mocking an argument could work for anything, maybe have a valid argument instead of just mocking and insulting
>i'm for political lesbianism just so you crazy retards don't breed.
there's little of us but plenty of alt-right men abusing women in worse ways outside of just being slightly controlling, maybe, since you're so for "crazy retards not breeding" you should spend your time attacking the ones actually sending women to the hospital and brainwashing other men for their cult, instead of ranting about the very few women like me who want men to be controlled

No. 456135

>>456134
>few women like me who want men to be controlled
what does that even mean ? how do you "control" a fully grown adult male

No. 456137

fuck I love Chick-fil-a.

No. 456140

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>>456135
put them in their place and allow them to face consequences for their actions, stop allowing them to be coddled. I'm tired of being nice, being nice doesn't work, look at all the tumblr feminists who defend men yet still get bashed and hated

No. 456145

>>456140
are you advocating for women to gaslight and emotionally abuse their SO's like that jackass in the screenshot you posted

No. 456148

>>456145
I'd give you an answer and explain once you can create an argument without a strawman and jumping to extreme conclusions without even knowing what you're talking about

No. 456149

>>456148
Just give me a straightforward answer of how you plan to "control" men ?

No. 456150

>>456149
again, allow them to face consequences for their actions

No. 456154

>>456148
It kinda sounds like you are baiting

No. 456156

>>456134
you realize the "low self esteem" women i mentioned are the ones with shitty misogynists. why not help them instead of trying to one up the misogynists???

No. 456166

Stay on topic please, this is not the pinkpill thread.

No. 456192

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https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1741-3729.2008.00491.x

Interesting White wife/Black husband marriages show twice the divorce rate of White wife/White husband couples,whereas Black wife/White husband marriages are 44% less likely to end in divorce than White wife/White husband couples

can any black anons explain this ?

No. 456197

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Some old Anti-Irish American political cartoons I found

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No. 456225

>>456197
The English also had a terrible attitude to Irish people back then. Which is crazy because they're basically the same people.

No. 456228

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>>456225
>The English also had a terrible attitude to Irish people back then. Which is crazy because they're basically the same people.

I'm not Irish but even I know that's not true.the original Inhabitants of the British Isles were various divided Celtic peoples and tribes,however in the Early Middle Ages there was a huge migration/Invasion of various Germanic People's in the whole of Great Britain especially in what is now England and these people ended becoming the dominant ethnic groups,hell English is a Germanic language but Ireland remained prominently Celtic in linguistics and culture

No. 456229


No. 456232

>>456228
Wait, so they're not even natives to their own homeland? Wow.
And why are they so ugly compared to European people?? I always thought they had been inbreeding on their island since the dawn of time separated from everyone else and that's why they look the way they do

No. 456234

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>>456232
That's just how they look anon

No. 456235

>>456232
Is this your first time discovering how often the UK has been invaded and settled?

Hint: It's a lot.

No. 456236

>>456192
Black men are the fucking worst, black women are smart to bag a white man and hold on for dear life.

No. 456280

>>456236
Bedwench

No. 456281

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Submission Statement: The Finders Cult - In February 1987, police arrested two men traveling with six children in Tallahassee, Florida. The men were well-dressed but the children appeared dirty, unkempt, and disoriented. Washington, D.C. based "cult" that conducted "brainwashing" and used children "in rituals."

The Finders Cult - CIA admitted front company. A cult of well-dressed men in Washington, D.C. Police seized photographs of naked children and children in chains. Found pictures of robed men and children at goat bloodletting ceremonies. Group kidnaps children and brainwashes them. Altar in warehouse.

D.C. police, who searched a Northeast Washington warehouse linked to the group, removed large plastic bags filled with color slides, photographs and photographic contact sheets. Some photos visible through a bag carried from the warehouse at 1307 Fourth St. NE were wallet-sized pictures of children, similar to school photos, and some were of naked children.

D.C. police sources said some of the items seized yesterday showed pictures of children engaged in what appeared to be "cult rituals." Officials of the U.S. Customs Service, called in to aid in the investigation, said that the material seized yesterday includes photos showing children involved in bloodletting ceremonies of animals and one photograph of a child in chains.

A source told investigators details of being recruited by the Finders with promises of "financial reward and sexual gratification" and of being invited by one member to "explore" satanism with them, according to the documents.

A D.C. police detective observed a clearing in the rear of the 3900 block of W Street NW where "several round stones had been gathered" near a circle, as well as evidence that people had gathered there, according to the document, which stated that "this practice is sometimes used in satanic rituals."

Police found a photo album entitled “The Execution of Henrietta and Igor,” a series of snapshots depicting berobed adults and children slaughtering goats in a wintry woodscape. One photo depicted giggling toddlers pulling dead kids from a womb (“Baby goats!” ran the caption); another showed a grinning adult presenting a goat’s head to a startled child.

Undoubtedly one of the most chilling conspiracies out there - The Finders Cult. Really disturbing to imagine what all went on here, and if this cult us still operating in Washington, D.C. Well dressed men kidnapping children and trafficking them. Brainwashing them with disturbing videos and making them perform occult rituals involving blood.

Sources:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1987/02/07/officials-describe-cult-rituals-in-child-abuse-case/11f05df1-48e0-41f7-b46d-249c0bd2bc39/?utm_term=.03f684c12d07&noredirect=on

https://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/article/13010819/finders-keeper

The Official United States Customs Service documents on the Finders Cult

"…the investigation into the activity of the FINDERS had become a CIA internal matter…I was advised that the FBI had withdrawn from the investigation…No further action will be taken."

"The warehouse contained a large library, two kitchens, a sauna, hot-tub, and a "video room." The video room seemed to be set up as an indoctrination center. It also appeared that the organization had the capability to produce its own videos. There were what appeared to be training areas for the children and what appeared to be an altar set up in the residential area of the warehouse. Many jars of urine and feces were located in this area."

"A later Customs report says the CIA ″admitted to owning the Finders organization as a front for a domestic computer training operation but that it had ’gone bad,‴ the newspaper said."

https://www.apnews.com/4c5cd8141e930159ea3e4f0492a41ade

No. 456282


No. 456284

>>456281
>>456282
I feel like this might've belonged more in the General Tinfoil thread, but on the other hand: Finally, some good content in this shit thread full of stupid arguing and racebait.
>"A later Customs report says the CIA ″admitted to owning the Finders organization as a front for a domestic computer training operation but that it had ’gone bad,‴ the newspaper said."
What the fuck? This is some MK-ULTRA shit.

No. 456285

>>456284
I was just about to bring up how cringey and racebaity this thread got. The fuck.

No. 456305

>>456284
It’s not tinfoil if they have actually been documented by several sources.

No. 456306

>>456281
In 1987 the New York Times ran a story about a little known cult called “The Finders”. The first paragraph reads:

“Police officials here said today that six disheveled children found in Tallahassee, Fla., might be the offspring of members of a little known cult, but the officials said they had not ruled out the possibility of kidnapping.”^1

Who are these suspicious men, and what were they doing with 6 undocumented children, transporting them across the country? Two children who were with the Tallahassee men were found to show signs of sexual abuse.^2 The Finders had long been a topic of discussion for locals, who were naturally fascinated with the cult that lived amongst them. The Washington City Paper once described the Finders as such:

“In appearance, the Finders—mostly middle-aged men, always in dark suits—wouldn’t be out of place managing a local funeral home. But the behavior of the handful of adherents has people wondering whether they arrived by flying saucer. Townspeople say the Finders constantly walk the streets, following people home and taking extensive notes and pictures. They often appear at local council meetings, never saying a word but simply observing the scene. At other times, they plunder the visitor’s center of brochures, maps, and local travel guides. And they haunt the courthouse, scouring land deeds to find out who owns the local real estate,” -Washington City Paper^3

The Washington City Paper goes on to address the shocking specter of the alleged Satanist practices of the cult, with the startling revelation:

“But among all the cryptic inventory, cops found a photo album entitled “The Execution of Henrietta and Igor,” a series of snapshots depicting berobed adults and children slaughtering goats in a wintry woodscape. One photo depicted giggling toddlers pulling dead kids from a womb (“Baby goats!” ran the caption); another showed a grinning adult presenting a goat’s head to a startled child.”^4

One US News and World Report article states:

“The more the police learned about the Finders, the more bizarre they seemed: There were suggestions of child abuse, Satanism, dealing in pornography and ritualistic animal slaughter. None of the allegations was ever proved, however. The child abuse charges against the two men in Tallahassee were dropped.”^5

The children were apparently en route to Mexico, to what the children described as a school for 'smart kids'. It was noted in a Customs Report that the children were unable to accurately identify themselves or their custodians, could not identify the purpose of telephones, toilets or televisions, and were only given food 'as a reward'.^6

These shocking developments led to a raid on the Finders compound by the U.S. Customs Service. The report produced after the raid is astounding:

“During the execution of the warrant at 3918/20 W Street., I was able to observe and access the entire building. I saw large quantities of childrens clothing and toys. The clothing consisted of diapers and clothes in the toddler to preschool range. No children were found on the premises.”

“Cursory examination of the documents revealed detailed instructions for obtaining children for unspecified purposes. The instructions included the impregnation of female members of the community known as the Finders, purchasing children, trading and kidnapping.”

“One such telex specifically ordered the purchase of two children in Hong Kong to be arranged through a contact in the Chinese Embassy there. Another telex expressed interest in 'bank secrecy' situations. Other documents identified interests in high-tech transfers to the United Kingdom, numerous properties under control of the Finders, a keen interest in terrorism, explosives and evasion of authorities.”

“There was also a set of instructions which appeared to be broadcast via a computer network which advised participants to move 'the children' and to keep them moving through different jurisdictions, and instructions on how to avoid police attention.”

“I was able to observe numerous documents which described explicit sexual conduct between members of the community known as Finders. I also saw a large collection of photographs of unidentified persons. Some of the photographs were nudes, believed to be members of Finders. There were numerous photos of children, some nude, at least one of which was a child 'on display' and appearing to accent the childs genitals.”

“One of the officers presented me with a photo album for review. The album contained a series of photos of adults and children dressed in white sheets participating in a 'blood ritual'. The ritual centered around the execution of at least two goats. The photos portrayed the execution, disembowelment and dismemberment of the goats at the hands of the children. This included the removal of the testes of the male goat, the discovery of the female goats 'womb' and the 'baby goats' inside the womb, and the presentation of the goat head to one of the children.”

“The warehouse contained a large library, two kitchens, a sauna, hot tub, and a 'video room'. The video room seemed to be set up as an indoctrination center. It also appeared that the organization had the capability to produce its own videos. There were what appeared to be training areas for the children and what appeared to be an altar set up in a residential area of the warehouse. Many jars of feces and urine were located in this area.” - USCS Report of Investigation Continuation, filed by Special Agent Ramon J. Martinez, March 2, 1987^7

A follow up report revealed the most shocking detail of the entire Finders case:

“I was advised that all of the passport data had been turned over to the State Department for their investigation. The State Department in turn advised MPD (D.C. Metropolitan Police Department) that all travel and use of passports by the holders of the passports was within the law and no action would be taken. This included travel to Moscow, North Korea and North Vietnam from the late 1950's to the early 1970's.

The individual further advised me of circumstances which indicated that the investigation into the Finders had become a CIA internal matter. The MPD report has been classified and is not available for review. I was advised that the FBI had withdrawn from the investigation several weeks prior and that the FBI Foreign Counter Intelligence Division had directed the MPD not to advise the FBI Washington Field Office of anything that had transpired.”^8 (Emphasis mine).

After the Finders investigation became a 'CIA internal matter', no action against the Finders was ever taken, and the case has largely faded from public memory. Not everyone was content with the investigation simply 'ending'. Florida congressman Tom Lewis was quoted as saying:

“'Could our own government have something to do with this Finders organization and turned their backs on these children? That's what all the evidence points to," says Lewis. "And there's a lot of evidence. I can tell you this: We've got a lot of people scrambling, and that wouldn't be happening if there was nothing here.'”^9

Digging by the media could only produce one confirmed connection: A firm which operated as a 'front organization' for the CIA providing officers with computer training employed several members of the Finders. The Washington Times reported:

“Other Customs Service documents and records from the FBI and Metropolitan Police provide indications that the CIA had links to the Finders or at least to some of the group’s members. A Metropolitan Police document dated Feb. 19, 1987, quotes a CIA agent as confirming that his agency was sending its personnel to "a Finders Corp., Future Enterprises, for training in computer operations."And a later Customs Service report says that the CIA "admitted to owning the Finders organization as a front for a domestic computer training operation but that it had ’gone bad.’”^10

The CIA, of course, has denied any connection to the Finders

So, what does all of this information mean to you? How could they get away with it, why was the case closed, and how deep does the rabbit hole go?

Sources (sorry for the lazy formatting. I'm on mobile. All these sources can be found on Google. Ibid means ive already listed the source.)

1New York Times, “Inquiry Spreads on 6 Children and Cult,” February 8, 1987

2Chicago Tribune, “2 Cult Children Show Signs Of Sex Abuse,” February 9, 1987

3Washington City Paper, “Finders Keeper,” May 24, 1996

4Ibid.

5US News and World Report, “Through a Glass, Very Darkly,” December 19, 1993

6USCS report available here.

7Ibid.

8Ibid.

9US News and World Report, “Through a Glass, Very Darkly,” December 19, 1993

10The Washington Times, “CIA tied to cult accused of abuse ; Justice probes links to Finders,” December 17, 1993

No. 456314

>>456306
How could this have gone ignored for so long, and the government to have protected those involved? What the actual fuck?
Wasn't Satanic ritual abuse supposed to be fake and made up by overzealous Christians?

No. 456322


No. 456323

>>456322
Woman who accused John of God cult leader of rape mysteriously kills herself at Spanish home
Eldest son Gabriel Baum confirmed her death, writing on Facebook: “She took the last step so that we could live. They killed my mother.”

More than 600 women have accused John of God - real name Joao Teixeira de Faria - of sexually abusing them during so-called healing sessions.

He was arrested in his homeland of Brazil in December and remanded in prison before being charged with rape and sexual assault.

The cult leader gained international fame in 2010 when US TV star Oprah Winfrey visited his retreat to interview him for her talk show.

She wrote she left feeling “an overwhelming sense of peace”, although she later deleted the comments and has since said she hopes justice is done.

Teixeira de Faria’s claims of healing powers brought people from around the world to his compounds in the small town of Abadiania.

BABY FARM CLAIMS

Bill Clinton and supermodel Naomi Campbell are rumoured to be among the high-profile celebrities to have visited the 77-year-old.

Mrs Bittencourt, 38, who was "living under the protection" after receiving death threats, claimed Teixeira de Faria ran a “sex slave farm.”

The mum-of-three claimed young girls were held captive to produce babies to be sold on the black market before being murdered.

She was quoted as saying: “Hundreds of girls were enslaved over years, lived on farms in Goias, served as wombs to get pregnant, for their babies to be sold.”

Mrs Bittencourt said she had received reports of the newborns being sold for up to £40,000 in Europe, USA and Australia.

She added: “These girls were murdered after 10 years of giving birth. We have got a number of testimonies.”

Announcing her death Vitimas Unidas said: "(The) group announces with regret the death of Sabrina Bittencourt, which occurred around 9pm on Saturday in Barcelona.

“The activist committed suicide and left a farewell note explaining the reasons why she took her own life.

“We ask you all not to try to contact her relatives. Two of her three children are still not aware of what happened and their father, Rafael Velasco, is trying to protect them.”

No. 456325

>>456314
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746472/Inside-tiny-town-built-sex-offenders-Photographer-captures-spiritual-safe-haven-Florida-200-convicted-sex-criminals-relatives-live-side.html


Others have fled their homes; repudiated by the local community for being a registered sex offender.

And all of them - from those charged with possessing child pornography to ones caught having sex with a minor and molestation - are there to 'repent their sins'.

Welcome to Miracle Village, a tiny church town spanning about 20 acres on the edge of Everglades in south Florida, which was established in 2009 as a spiritual safe haven for sex offenders and their families.

With a population of about 200, it is believed to be the largest sex offender community in the United States.


There’s 2 massive schools in the area btw

No. 456343

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>>456325
There are children living there. Why is that allowed, in any capacity?

No. 456347

>>456343
Because they aren’t part of the family

No. 456353

am i missing something? what the fuck is up with this autistic spoiler abuse?

No. 456354

am i missing something? what the fuck is up with this autistic spoiler abuse?

No. 456355

>>456353
I don't get it either, literally none of anything anon posted needed to be spoilered.

No. 456357

>>456280
Bedwench is a funny word

No. 456360

>>456353
I think they're trying to use it as if its a livejournal "Read more" cut, but my cursor just makes it a big spastic lightshow lmao

No. 456428

>>456357
what does Bedwench even mean ?

No. 456454

>>456428
its a term used for when female slaves slept with their masters and kept the bed warm.

No. 456459

>>456280
Who tf even says this shit in 2019 are you a civil war re-enactor from Ohio or what lmao

No. 456460

>>456459
>>456428
>>456454
>(African American Vernacular, slang, derogatory, potentially offensive) A black woman who dates white people, often accused of seeking privileges.

No. 456461

>>456280
Is that you, Tommy Sotomayor?

No. 456462


No. 456466

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>>456192


Domestic abuse also goes way down when you compare blackMale/blackFemale with whiteMale/BlackFemale

Both BlackMale/BlackFemale and BlackMale/whitefemale have the worst domestic abuse rates of them all, even compared to hispanics and asians. Black males are the determining factor here.(necessaryspeed4)

No. 456467

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>>456466
And we are back to murica posting

No. 456481

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>>456467

Sarcastic responses don't make problematic issues become less real you know.(necessaryspeed4)

No. 456485


No. 456492

>>456485
>black men killing black men
>black men abusing women at a disproportionate rate
>You still make it all about wypeople
>Making excuses for scrotes who abuse, kill, rape and are their own community worst enemies


classic.(necessaryspeed4)

No. 456498

>>456492
>>456481
>>456466
I swear to god the anon making these racist statements is not me(fuck off)

No. 456502

>>456501
If ur gonna post this same retarded
unsourced /ppl/ image every week can you at least get a higher quality version so I can read the text at the bottom

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>>456501
and if you look at the statistics the perpetrators of the deadliest shootings are mostly white so what's your point? if some retarded outcast shoots up a place it's their fault, stop using it as a reason to generalize races.

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i just wish we could stop shooting each other up. whats the point of going anywhere or doing anything if some faggot with an arsenal wants people to die because life is hard?

No. 456513

>>456507
>>456511
why are so many of these from the us and why aren't serious precautions being taken?..

No. 456514

>>456513
Americans don’t vote for sensible gun laws so everyone and their schizo neighbour can have high powered firearms. “For protection”

No. 456518

>>456513
Gun laws. Of course gun freaks are all like "Well, it's proven a lot of these guns are stolen, they don't follow the law, that's what makes them criminals! What makes you think laws are gonna fix everything?" Well first of all dummy, how did they steal the gun in the first place? Which vendor / owner wasn't careful enough with storage? There's got to be extra layers of protection.

Like, it's not that easy to steal a car without an alarm going off and windows being broken and no ignition key if it's locked. You can use a car as a weapon too. It's also not absurd for the government to come out with new laws and regulations regarding a car, which is a privilege not a right, but when they try to discuss new gun laws, people get so butthurt about it.

No. 456519

>>456514

How come Mexico,Honduras, Brazil, Venezuela, etc countries that completely forbid gun ownership have soaring crime and murder rates miles above the US and the highest in the world. Some of the most violent cities in America happen to be the ones with most restrictive gun laws.

No. 456520

>>456514
Pakistan,Serbia,Bosnia and Albania have even have more lax gun laws then the US,those countries never deal with any mass shootings

No. 456528

>>456514
>muh protection
lmaooo when people say this i'm like who are you? are you the secret head of illuminati or something, why would you need a high powered firearm to protect your broke ass? are you living in the middle of the gaza strip? buy a nuclear weapon to protect your precious rented 2/2 apartment while you're at it. this statement is really dumb and almost entirely political.

No. 456529

mods should not erase comments just because their side of the argument is proven wrong with statistical fact and can't make a comeback. This ruins discussion and make farmers look like kids who can't handle a simple graph.(ban evasion)

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>>456528
>why would you need a high powered firearm to protect your broke ass? are you living in the middle of the gaza strip?

>>456451
>>456452

No. 456531

>>456530
well this wouldn't have happened if that guy didn't have a gun in the first place. compare the likeliness of this happening to literal hundreds of civilians who died because of socially retarded men who had an easy access to guns. clearly more people have died than the amount of people who were saved due to the lack of gun control.

No. 456534

>>456531
samefag but this kinda looks staged. she was so quick to react, she's either a cop or an actor.

No. 456535

>>456531
>literal hundreds of civilians who died because of socially retarded men who had an easy access to guns

By socially retarded men you mean urban criminals fighting drug wars with illegal weapons? How come Venezuela and Mexico are the most violent place on earth if the population can't legally arm themselves? crazy right, criminals buying illegal guns but law abiding citizens cant.

How about the thousands of women that get raped and kidnapped because they can't protect themselves against an agressor that overpowers them physically?

You sound like a spoiled kid taking the safety of the suburbs for granted. People need to protect themselves from criminals and people who act against their personal safety. Hope you are never in such a situation and your bubble never explodes.

No. 456537

>>456520

Also Switzerland, gun ownership is high.

No. 456538

>>322061
Or maybe it’s because the country is being ruined by mass illegal immigration so things aren’t going well.

No. 456539

>>456520
>Pakistan,Serbia,Bosnia and Albania
all those countries are third world shitholes

No. 456541

>>456520
Pakistan had a school shooting 5 years ago that killed 156 fucking people m8.

No. 456542

>>456535
these urban criminals in drug wars kill each other and usually get caught after a few murders. i was referring to columbine influencees shooting up schools, elliot rodger and the alikes, racists who shoot up places of worship, shootings like that. they are the ones who commited the deadliest shootings in america. >>456507
is it women's responsibility to carry a gun and be ready to use it any time or is it the local security's responsibility to create a safe environment for citizens anon?

No. 456543

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>>456542
That wasn't a normal school shooting it was a terrorist attack committed by the Taliban

No. 456546

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>>456539
And yet we seem to control our gun-toting maniacs a lot better than the Land of the Free, have four religions under one roof that somehow don't kill each other every day because we used to be commiepilled until recently, house refugees from the Middle-East who stay put and don't cause incidents, and women can walk around at night without getting molested.
>>456520
In Serbia civilians are not allowed to own firearms without a permit and proper training (which is expensive), and guns aren't available at every Walmart equivalent. The only place you can actually get a gun as a civilian is a hunting shop, for which you need a hunter's permit.

No. 456547

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>>456546
>somehow don't kill each other every day

are you really forgetting the Break up of Yugoslavia where you all tried to kill each other

No. 456551

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>>456543
so I know this is super inappropriate but am I the only the one who finds guy on the left kinda cute

No. 456552

>>456546

Not only that but Serbia has about 1 million registered weapons and 500,000 to 1.5 million unregistered weapons yet has only 0.61 deaths
caused by guns

No. 456553

>>456547
First off, it's 2019, not 1989. Things are different.

Second, those conflicts were politically charged and had nothing to do with religion in itself, plus you had a lot of criminal paramilitary organisations involved who were doing it for power and profit and were paid by corrupt authorities to cause unrest. You can't go from people living peacefully for 50-some years to going at each other's throats in one year out of the blue. The conflicts were caused by external and internal forces and have little to do with the common folk.

People are still using religion as a political statement in some parts of the Western Balkans (especially in Bosnia where Bosniak Muslims consider themselves a separate ethnic group, for some reason), but this rhetoric has been changed more times than I've changed my socks since the 90s. It used to be that you couldn't be a Croat unless you were Catholic but they changed their minds recently.

In Serbia there are several religious denominations within the country who all sort of do their own thing. There's a strong Jewish community in Vojvodina and Belgrade, right next to the Jewish cultural centre in Belgrade is the Bajrakli mosque, the Sandžak region has a strong Muslim population, the Hungarian minority and Bunjevci Croats are predominantly Catholic, and the biggest religion in the country is Eastern/Greek Orthodoxy. A large number of the population also identify as atheist "Yugoslavs". Mixed marriages are also common and not frowned upon.
Bosnia is even more mixed in terms of religion but their entire political system is a clusterfuck I don't know much about.

But go off, tell me more about my country.

No. 456554

>>456542
>they are the ones who committed the deadliest shootings in America.

Those don't even account for 0.1% of gun related deaths that happen in America every year. One of the deadliest mass shootings happened in Norway, a country with strict gun laws, wonder what happened there.

>>>456542

or is it the local security's responsibility to create a safe environment for citizens anon?

Yeah, you tell yourself that when you walk home at night by yourself. Like i said before, you sound extremely sheltered and spoiled kid from the suburbs.

I live by myself, i am a legal gun owner and open carrier, like hell i am giving it up and make myself more vulnerable because it hurts your feelings. Fuck that. That's exactly what these incel rapist want, vulnerable women and people shitting themselves.

>and usually get caught after a few murders


Phew! thats so reasuring anon! (some) rapist and murderes get caught eventually! while you, the victim, become another statistic to be forgotten. Leave it to the Superman! he will show up when you need it.

No. 456555

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>>456553
>Second, those conflicts were politically charged

How does that invalidate that you tried to kill each other?

No. 456556

>>456555
>have four religions under one roof that somehow don't kill each other every day
>religions
>not criminals and corrupt politicians paid by Western authorities
Religion and politics were separate in Yugoslavia.

Also that happened 20 years ago, I will repeat. I am talking about today, Year of Our Lord 2019, in which the US had ~28 school shootings to date.

No. 456557

>>456554
you can be a legal gun owner if you want but how are you going to solve the mass shooting problem in america?

No. 456558

>>456555
yugoslavia broke up almost 30 years ago

No. 456562

>>456556
Ignore that person, it’s obvious that the only research they’ve done on the Balkans is browsing Wikipedia for five minutes, they’ve obviously never even talked to someone from there in real life

No. 456563

>>456557

That's probably requires complex answers, but making guns illegal is not it.

Some are making up to be like every american is running from bullets and shootings everyday everywhere, except much more people have been killed in Europe by islamist extremists than americans by mass shooter. Why don't you deal with that shit instead of being smug and memeing about america eurofags? aren't you supposed to be like, super safe from terrorists because you have gun control?

As far as deaths go the biggest threat by far is still regular ass crime and even that is very localized. And America has a ton of cities that are safe af despite high gun ownership.

Chicago is proof that strict gun laws don't help with underlying issues in a community and criminals would still be shooting themselves. Socioeconomic factors, education and mental health are a good start for finding solutions to gun violence rather than taking guns away from law abiding citizens, the overwhelming majority of which will never use them for anything other than defending themselves.

No. 456564

America has like 300 million people and vastly different territories with diferent laws and cultures, stop comparing the US with some small country with 5 million citizens and more sheep than people for gods sake.

No. 456565

There's no reasoning with gunfags.

No. 456566

>>456563
it's almost like three shootings happened within the span of one week just last month.
>someone criticizes america's gun laws
>"b-but people die in europe too!!"
how does this dismiss anything?

No. 456567

>>456564
And the Balkans all consist of one singular territory and culture, is what you're implying?
Would you rather be compared to Australia then?
>>456562
It's alright, I'm used to explaining to people that I'm not from Siberia and my neighbourhood is not Chernobyl

No. 456570

>>456567

America has its own determining factors that Australia doesn't have

https://imgur.com/a/ssa6X

https://lite.lolcow.farm/ot/src/1567325079591.png

No. 456576

>>456537
It's because of the mandatory army, men get to keep the guns they get from there and it's not so much about them going and buying news ones

No. 456577

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>>456565
>>456565

>empower women

>take guns away from women

No. 456580

>>456576
>it's not so much about them going and buying news ones

Oh, so its ok when they don't buy the guns, just when the state gives them the guns for free and they are all still armed.

When you put it like that.

No. 456583

>>456577
>take guns away from mentally unstable people who have the potential to shoot up any random place over a breakdown
fixed

No. 456591

>>456537
>>456580
https://www.businessinsider.com/switzerland-gun-laws-rates-of-gun-deaths-2018-2?IR=T#swiss-laws-are-designed-to-prevent-anyone-whos-violent-or-incompetent-from-owning-a-gun-8
>People who've been convicted of a crime or have an alcohol or drug addiction aren't allowed to buy guns in Switzerland.

>The law also states that anyone who "expresses a violent or dangerous attitude" won't be permitted to own a gun.


>Switzerland still has one of the highest rates of gun violence in Europe, and most gun deaths in the country are suicides.


>Around the world, stronger gun laws have been linked to fewer gun deaths. That has been the case in Switzerland too.


>After hundreds of years of letting local cantons determine gun rules, Switzerland passed its first federal regulations on guns in 1999, after the country's crime rate increased during the 1990s.


>Since then, more provisions have been added to keep the country on par with EU gun laws, and gun deaths, including suicides, have continued to drop.


>As of 2015, the Swiss estimated that only about 11% of citizens kept their military-issued gun at home.



https://www.politifact.com/rhode-island/statements/2013/jan/06/facebook-posts/facebook-posting-says-gun-rich-swiss-have-lowest-f/
>The ammunition for the weaponry is kept in a government arsenal. (Swiss men used to be able to keep up to 50 rounds at home and the government did a periodic inventory to make sure it wasn't being used, but that changed in 2007 when the country tightened its rules.)

>Ammunition purchased at shooting ranges – which are very popular in Switzerland – is supposed to be used there.


>Overall, "they have fewer guns per capita than we do and far stricter gun laws in terms of private ownership," Everett said. "If the U.S. ever attempted to implement gun laws like Switzerland's, the NRA would fight it tooth and nail."


https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/
>2. Across high-income nations, more guns = more homicide

>We analyzed the relationship between homicide and gun availability using data from 26 developed countries from the early 1990s. We found that across developed countries, where guns are more available, there are more homicides. These results often hold even when the United States is excluded.

No. 456603

>>456519
Cause it’s easy to import them or get your hands on them when the police are horrifically corrupt?

How come Australia and New Zealand have fuck all shootings and stricter gun laws?

No. 456604

Cause it’s easy to import them or get your hands on them when the police are horrifically corrupt?

So you agree gun laws mean jack shit. All they do in those places is dis empower the citizen against the criminals and their corrupt as fuck governments.

>How come Australia and New Zealand have fuck all shootings and stricter gun laws?


>>456570

No. 456605

>>456604
>gun laws mean jack shit
see >>456591
>After hundreds of years of letting local cantons determine gun rules, Switzerland passed its first federal regulations on guns in 1999, after the country's crime rate increased during the 1990s.

>Since then, more provisions have been added to keep the country on par with EU gun laws, and gun deaths, including suicides, have continued to drop.

No. 456607

>>456528
The really hardcore gunfags say they need them to defend themselves against a tyrannical government. As if a pile of very very tough guys are gonna take on the army and save America. Might as well be plastic katanas since they’re props for a fantasy.

>>456604
When police and government are horrifically corrupt. America’s are retarded, racist, and absurdly nationalistic, but the White House isn’t holding hands under the table with the local coke cartel either.

No. 456609

>>456605

Switzerland's entire population is less than the city of New York alone and you are forgetting the big elephant in the room too which is demographics, Switzerland is a wealthy as fuck homogeneous country with mostly white citizens, if you only measure white murder rates the USA actually ranks lower in gun related deaths and violent crimes per capita than most of Europe. Let that sink in.

No. 456610

>>456607
>The really hardcore gunfags say they need them to defend themselves against a tyrannical government.

Venezuelan citizens would love to own guns just about now.

No. 456611

>>456609
Weren't you just trying to argue that Switzerland having guns and not as much crime totally means that lax gun laws are A-OK for the USA? Why are you changing the story to racebait?

No. 456613

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>>456609
>homogeneous country
lol,Switzerland is a culturally and linguistically diverse country dumbass

No. 456615

>>456610
How would owning guns help Venezuelans fix the government? Storm the presidents residence and kill him?

No. 456617

>>456613
euroboos think there is only one "white culture" and europeans agree on everything lmao

No. 456619

>>456613

So, which of those swiss regions have more the Maras, bloods and crips?

>Storm the presidents residence and kill him?


You say that like its a joke. It would have been over years ago have the population being armed and able to defend themselves from armed thugs rather than relying on flags and cooking pots.

No. 456620

>>456617
Yeah, and you also seem to think all europeans think that way, when I see it's mostly americans

No. 456626

>>456617
People like that literally boil everyone down to "umm white skin, umm brown skin, umm really really really brown skin, ummm almond-shaped eyes, umm muslim". No real understanding of the world's cultures or social structures outside their own, but they're convinced that they're knowledgeable and have it all figured out for some reason.

No. 456631

If you can't handle debating guns without racebaiting then this thread will just get locked.

No. 456641

>>456631
You are not admin.

No. 456652

>>456641
are u sure bc their name says admin lmao

saged for obvious sarcasm

No. 456783

>>456641
I frequently use that trip on /meta/ when I'm on mobile ffs
>>456631

No. 456983

>>456045
>>456019
So this is some sort of tit-for-tat, even stevens operation? Like, if they are shitheads then you can be too? So because scrotes are violent and murderous, now you have a blank cheque to be as well?

No. 457028

So this is the power of American culture?
https://twitter.com/BestFights30/status/1167907339824877568

No. 457040

>>457034

socio economical factors, homies dindu nutting

No. 458064

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No. 458179

>>458064
Wait are those orthodox jews

No. 458188

>>456512
I feel this so hard. I went to a concert in NYC the day after that weekend of shootings and it brought down the mood so much. Without me even mentioning it the other folks I went to the show with brought up a plan for how to get out of the venue if a shooting occurred, where we could meet if we got separated, ect. I hate that now having those plans is becoming a normalized part of attending a large event.

No. 458191

>>458179
this was a promo short film made for radiohead, if you watch the whole thing you can see the costumes more closely.

it's called Tinker Tailor Soldier Sailor Rich Man Poor Man Beggar Man Thief directed by Richard Ayoade.

No. 458223

>>458191
The guy from IT crowd directed a radio head video? He's always intrigued me in interviews I didn't know he directed.

No. 458388

>>458223
very OT but he's a cinema buff, he directed submarine



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