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>"The issue of feminism is just not an interesting concept. I'm more interested in, you know, SpaceX and Tesla, what's going to happen with our intergalactic possibilities. Whenever people bring up feminism, I'm like, god. I'm just not really that interested."
>saying "intergalactic" to sound smart and sciencey when SpaceX isn't doing anything intergalactic
>implying you can't be interested in both
>sucking Elon Musk's taint
I love her music, but she sounded so fucking dumb here one might think it was a parody of these types.
also>implying she's not like the other girls who are interested in feminism
I love her but that was cringy. Good thing she changed her public view on feminism.
Courtney Love punched her for no reason as she's prone to do to women she feels threatened by (see also: Mary Lou Lord) as well as random people (like Kristin King) because she can.
She should have been posted as an example in this thread. She pays lip service to the idea of feminism but acts the opposite.
Courtney Love is almost a handmaiden, but the truth is she's rotten to everybody.
There was an entire Tumblr blog dedicated to documenting how shitty she is, exposingcourtneylove, but it's been deleted IIRC. Sad.
Luckily almost the whole thing got archived by wayback machine:https://web.archive.org/web/20171030003414/http://www.exposingcourtneylove.tumblr.com/tagged/courtney_love_abuse
Scroll down (or ctrl+f "why i hate courtney love") for all the people she mistreated plus fake feminism, racism and other bs.
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>>398740>but she doesn't appease troons and believes they're not women so what's the prob
Nope >>398752>Courtney Love punched her for no reason
Kathleen Hanna had repeatedly made antagonistic comments to Courtney,calling her a bad mother and a bad feminist, she also still believes that Courtney was involved in Kurt Cobain's death
Yeah, I like Courtney's music but didn't she literally say in her song "I am not a feminist"? I admire that she's a lot stronger than I could ever be, but she's still kind of anti-fem and seems to dislike a lot of women.
Why is 'husband' in quotes on the tumblr? They were obviously married and he was obviously in love with her. I think Kurt was into 'strong' women and he was submissive himself so I don't doubt that he was her husband, at least on his end to her.
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Show me proof Kathleen Hannah attacked her first. Besides, there is a difference between criticism and punching someone. This is not even the only case where Courtney assaulted someone. That's a troon-tier behavior.
>The state of feminism is sad. Somehow in the 70s, or early 80s, the feminists with the hairy legs and the “big and fat”, you know, somehow separated themselves from the pretty girls. So it’s like, the more pretty girls that are feminists is sort of better for the whole thing.
Courtney Love is a shit human being, as much as it made me sad when I found it, as I love Live Through This.
See pic related. Kind reminder that if you got raped or sexually assaulted, that's probably because you have a victim
energy. So it's on you.
??? She was objectively a horrible person, lmao. Talented, yes, but also a horrible person. She most certainly does have abusive
tendencies, and that's why she's always been such a liar and so shitty to other women.
Defending Courtney Love is not the hill to die on.
Yes, it was. Also sure, aggressive drug addicts make wonderful parents!
Give me links proving she did it before Courtney punched her.
Besides, even if we ignore that one thing, there is plenty of horrible stuff she's done. Just check the link above. You can't tell me all of it is always someone else's fault.
Courtney Love stans are unreal with how they buy the ~vilified rock queen uwu~ narrative pushed by her PR agency lmfao.
both Courtney and Kurt were not perfect people and both had a lot of issues
I just feel their is a double standard between how "damaged" men are treated and how "damaged" women are treated
Courtney loved and Kurt loved her and thats enough for me
>>398752>She pays lip service to the idea of feminism but acts the opposite.
I don't feel like Courtney should be exiled from feminism just because she's problematic
. Courtney is a piece of shit in many regards, without a doubt, but women should be allowed to be flawed pieces of shit. Until we nitpick male rockstars to the same degree, I don't see the point at burning her at the stake for being a bad feminist when she never claimed to be a sjw icon
It's the same about people who constantly attack LDR for dumb stuff she's said >>398613
like yeah, hold her accountable for that shit forever but also a large body of work she has made is intrinsically feminist. People can be bad feminists, people can even accidentally be feminists even when they deny it, you can't just draw a line under a whole living person.
Unrelated the messy Kathleen Hannah and Courtney drama is my guilty pleasure, I love that instead of settling down and becoming stage moms they both instead just carry on hissing about how the other isn't really punk rock.
>>398921>I love that instead of settling down and becoming stage moms they both instead just carry on hissing about how the other isn't really punk rock.
Courtney never claimed to be punk
Kathleen Hannah was a try hard punk and is way overhyped when there are way better female punks.
she kept on trying to claim how punk she was but forbade moshing and violence in her shows
Kathleen and other Bikkini kill members all came from collage backgrounds something and Riot grrrl had always been a middle-class white women thing
We're conversing, if you want to talk about something different then please do
If people are talking about something you don't like at lunch so you just yell at them to shut up instead of leading into something you care about?
Kek all men are basically autistic. No other gender is so prone to writing wish fulfillment fanfics WHILST talking to themselves. >>398936
Never fuck a male that uses reddit.
I've come across a good number of accounts on twitter ran by actual women defending sport stars rape allegations. They exist and they are mental.
I also know this mess of a girl that writes walltexts on fb about porn and how she's so proud she's one of the few women who can squirt. It's absolutely desperate and so harrowing to read what she posts while she's sitting in her break room lol
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/r/gendercritical and it's aligned subs are an oasis in a wasteland of male pandering and misogyny, at least.
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what about r/GenderCriticalGuys
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Like a clockwork.
heard a woman say she loved getting pounded in the ass un ironically. These are porn sick men repeating what they've heard in porn, larping hard and being pathetic at it kek>>399298
She'll come around anon but that last one is really sad. Hating your own body because it's not like porn. I hope she builds her self esteem
Not to sound like an incel migtoe but handmaidenism is 100% a way for female betas to increase their perceived sexual value.
"I may not be pretty or rich enough to make any rules here but I will literally prolapse my ass for you, scrot-kun!"
I have hope for that, because at her age I used to think the same while nowadays I don't even watch porn anymore. Sadly she was exposed to porn at a very young age, and so was I. When a kid has access to the internet you can't control what they do and what they see, and it hurts to think of how she lets her guy friends degrade her, and how she degrades herself for men (our mom accidentally saw some pictures and texts).
Hopefully she'll got out of it. Not to be paranoid, but I'm really concerned for her. I don't like her friends.
Can't you talk to her about it? How would she react if you pointed out that, say, men would never defend her the way she defends them. Or that she clearly has low self esteem if she's so desperate for male approval?
I have to say, if my sister was spewing that bullshit I would have no mercy and tear into her. For her own good and also because it's so fucking offensive to women to say things like that, so she'd deserve to be told off.
yep the women of reddit.
If you want an extreme dose of handmaiden go to /redpillwomen/>I'm in a one-sided open relationship where my husband gets to fuck other women while I take care of our children but I don't mind it!
Oh anon, why did you remind me.
That is absolutely the worst subreddit. I'd post caps if I weren't busy but it's a ride.
They believe in shit like SMV (sexual male value). It's fucking insane.
A lot of people have convinced themselves radfems are evil witch-like women who want everyone who disagrees with them to suffer, including women. It's a lot easier to reject feminist discourse if you pretend there's a dark, murderous agenda behind it.
Meanwhile some people have legit carried out violent acts in the name of the alt-right/redpill but alt-right men are totally ~uwu traditional men who just want to uphold society~.
The best thing I’ve done was unsubscribing from that hellhole. I’ve read The Surrendered Single because of them and I got into an abusive
relationship because “if he pumps and dumps you it’s your fault for being a plate and not good enough to be in a relationship”.
I also hate the lock and key thing - “a key that opens many locks is a master key; a lock that is opened by many keys is a shitty lock”. Fuck off, I’m not a perishable piece of meat that’s rotten by the age of 30 if I’m not married or have more than 10 sexual partners.
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She's pandering to tech nerds because she's now too old for the "daddy" type men she used to sing about, as described. Isn't it funny how that works?
Anyway fuck Nicki Minaj and her lying-ass fake feminist shit where she'll happily insult other women then claim it's a joke, capitalize on how "bisexual" she is to please men, and constantly defend her rapist brother.
The lock and key analogy really highlights how literally retarded these people are. Vaginas are not locks, penises are not keys. They're fucking sex organs. Just because one goes into the other doesn't mean they're comparable to fucking locks and keys. Really showcases how men see women as sexual challenges and not people, too.
Also, my husband pointed out once how if you really wanna play double standards, male promiscuity is objectively much worse than female since males can impregnate limitless women at once and have no control over whether or not the woman keeps it. So, a slutty male can end up with several accidental babies/baby mommas at once (something anyone from a low class area has probably seen in action multiple times) whereas a slutty female is only gonna end up with one accidental kid at once if she decides to even have it. And you know those men knocking these women up are probably gonna be deadbeat dads who don't even take care of their offspring. So yeah, male promiscuity is objectively worse for society.
Red pill types love to bitch about the impact of fatherless kids to shit on women, as if it's not the man's fault for taking zero responsibility for his own child. Yet the same types will glamorize male promiscuity, completely disregarding the same consequences they love to remind women of.
That's something that always made me lul. Women should only have one partner becuz:>muh pair bonding>muh hypergamy>women are harsher about men's looks or w/e
But men need to sleep with lots of women before settling down bcuz:>Alpha>Gorilla hierarchies (?)>Respect>They just really need this and why are you so judgey, its really not cute babe gag
What about their starter women? Are they meant to dedicate their lives to training a whole bunch of men who graduate to better women and then live out their days as companionship for divorces and widowers? Doesn't really seem like a viable evolutionary trait. But then the boys get all butthurt and start sputtering because you've stomped on their utopian world order.
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>is anyone else triggered that a movie about a bunch of superheroes shows a female super hero acting like the other super heroes instead of a lady like damsel???
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Samegagging, but the comments are also extremely cringey
>I'm scared for these poor little boys growing up seeing such weak portrayals of men in commercials!!!
… you're in a thread about a superhero franchise with an almost all male cast and you're pretending boys don't have strong male remodels anymore because you've seen some commercials showing the woman being more efficient than the man. Okay then.
I agree with you. I really enjoy media where the female protagonist has agency and is respected without being very attractive or having a male personality, but it's rare. I can't really feel excited for supposed strong female protagonists when I can tell they're written by men, for men and really are just a man in a body a straight man could fuck.
Related to this, I'd love to find more media about older women still being valuable beings even as they show signs of aging, but I really haven't found anything where an old woman isn't a mother/grand-mother with a plotline revolving entirely around her male children/grand-children.
Their was an episode of The Twilight Zone that had a elderly woman as a main character
the episode was about a reclusive old woman(Wanda) who had a fear of death and so lived at home avoiding everyone till one day death finally comes for her
a detail that I remember from that episode was that Wanda had an obvious attraction to the actor playing Death(who was played by a young handsome man)first time viewing It felt weird seeing an older woman having any sort of sexual desire towards a younger man but looking back I get it
I love all your points here, anon. Always felt the same way but I like how you worded it.
Apologies if this is too OT but recently I really liked the book Lolly Willowes as an example of perhaps what you're looking for–average-looking woman grows older and asserts her desires/value in a non-masculine way. Her ending is complex and imperfect, still caught up in a different type of arguably male-dominated system, but despite that it feels very refreshing and critical of traditional gender roles without resorting to sexy battle babe crap (it's from 1926).
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Another gem from RedPillWomen>when I met "my Captain" he judged me for not being a virgin and told me I wasn't relationship material>he was fucking multiple women at the time though
This can't be real. Right?
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She said it 5 years ago in the Ultraviolence era, so you are wrong. She backtracked on the statement when Trump came into power.
Also she has never publically actually dated the Daddy types she used to sing about… Unless you consider Josh Kemp (pic related), Barrie-James O'Neal (born in 1987), Francesco Carrozzini (1982, not that young, but not daddy IMHO), G-Eazy (1989) daddies?
Her taste in man is all over the place, but I don't think she was as much into old men as she liked to portray. Whether it makes her daddy themes better or worse is up to you.
weren't red pill women doxed by a redditor once to reveal that some were actually men pretending to be women and some were older homely women with low self esteem either too afraid to leave their s/o or not sure how to get one
Reading these posts, it makes sense. When has any woman you know of irl use n-count
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The people on that sub have to either be men, borderline retarded women, 13 year old girls, or troons. Imagine being this fucking dumb and wondering if your racist boyfriend who admitted to hating you will ever change.
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samefag to add I was looking at this other woman's account earlier - she posted on RPW about "Is there something wrong with me if no boy has ever approached me in a romantic context?" and in her post history she's been accused of molestation and harassing/stalking her ex. Pretty sure that's the demographic over there.
Yeah, it's weak pandering that does nothing real for women. Super strong fictional women can be entertaining and cool and they should exist, but realistically, strength is the one thing we absolutely cannot match in men. What good does it do us to tell us the best thing a woman can be is just like a man, in ways we cannot actually achieve?
>I'd love to find more media about older women still being valuable beings even as they show signs of aging
Agreed! Inspiring female characters aren't even what I want, honestly. I just want it to be acceptable for a woman to age or be unattractive (without making it the focus of the series, like Shrill or something). Male characters are often old or ugly or fat, it doesn't stop people enjoying them, but women have to be young and hot or they're a total waste of screen time. I don't wanna be a superhero, I just don't want to keep being told my existence is offensive when I'm 30+ or not 10/10.